1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: All right, So can we have some perspective? I think 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: that's the key when it comes to talking about Venezuela. 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: The key is perspective ninety three WIBC. It's Kennelly Casey Show. 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: I'm Rob Casey's out today. And obviously the big news 5 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: has been what's going on in Venezuela. Now the challenge 6 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 1: is what do you do with what's taking place on 7 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: the ground. And part of all of this is looking 8 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: at what's happened in this country in the past, and 9 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: how do we ensure those mistakes don't happen again in 10 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: the future. So what I'm talking about is the United States. 11 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: If you look at the past eighty years of the 12 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: United States, our US military is the greatest fighting force 13 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: in the entire world, no ifs ands or butts about it. 14 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: But what we're not good at what we really haven't 15 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: been good at in a post World War two world. 16 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: With some exceptions, but for the most part, we have 17 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 1: not been good at what we call nation building. We're 18 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: really good at breaking things, which is what a fighting 19 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: force should be. Seek kill, destroy, get the bad guy, 20 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: move on. That's what we do really well. But anytime 21 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: you do the seek kill and destroy. Anytime you take 22 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: out people who have led nations in some cases for generations, 23 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: somebody has to fill the power vacuum, and time and 24 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: time again, certainly in a post World War two world, 25 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: we have not been a good I guess babysitter for 26 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: lack of a better term, to ensure that the people 27 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: who fill that power vacuum are friends of us, serve 28 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: interests that we care about, and many times we will 29 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: end up with something worse. I think you can make 30 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: a compelling case when you look at the way Afghanistan 31 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: ended up, especially when you talk twenty plus years of 32 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: blood and treasure, certainly Iraq and what took place in 33 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: the decade after that, that while the people who were 34 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: running those countries were horrible, disgusting people, in terms of 35 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,839 Speaker 1: how we were affected by the United States, we were 36 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: better off with having the bad guy in power because 37 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: it was stability. You knew who you were dealing with. 38 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: And so one of the things that's been fascinating to 39 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: me in the days after Maduro has been captured by 40 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: the way having a hearing today at noon, and we'll 41 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: get into this all throughout the course of the program today, 42 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: but one of the interesting things is that we don't 43 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: really have an answer of what comes next. And for 44 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: some one like me whose generation was the generation who 45 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: fought in Iraq, who fought in Afghanistan. Now, of course 46 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: that was not me. There were people far braver than 47 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: I who are over there doing that. But when we 48 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: hear the idea of hey, we're taking over, Hey we 49 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: caught this bad guy, that's great, and we're taking over, 50 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: we're going by what we experienced. My generation is experienced. 51 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: I think you could. It's certainly different than the folks 52 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: who grew up in experienced Vietnam. But our generation looks 53 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: at that and goes, oh, that didn't go so well, 54 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: what does that mean we're taking over? What does that 55 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: mean we're going to be in control what comes next? 56 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: And we don't really have a lot of answers to that. 57 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: So what was fascinating to me was that on the Internet, 58 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: like the Internet is assesspool of awful, right. I think 59 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: we all know that at this point that the Internet 60 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: is essentially a coloss that's a loss of vacuum of suck, 61 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: and it's like it's sort of like going to a movie. 62 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: There's a reason they put the ratings on the movies, 63 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: so you know, you have some idea what you're getting 64 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: into when you go to that movie. And I think 65 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: you kind of should know that now on the internet, 66 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: Like if you engage in Twitter, you should know what 67 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: you're getting into. And so what's fascinating to me about 68 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: the internet now, Twitter to some extent Facebook, though it's 69 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:31,119 Speaker 1: not nearly as bad as Twitter, is that you can't 70 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: really have any perspective on anything anymore. You can't really 71 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: say to yourself, Okay, this thing can be true, but 72 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: this thing could also be true as well. Like you 73 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: totally have to pick a side, you totally. That's all 74 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: we do on the internet now is you must pick 75 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: a side. You must have a team, and you can't 76 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: at any point be in the middle. You can't see 77 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: both sides. You can't have two things to be true. 78 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: Where did we see this? We saw this with the 79 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: redistricting debate where we that we went through where if 80 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: you automatic in Indiana didn't agree with the Republicans changing 81 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: the congressional maps, then you were somehow some sort of 82 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: Democrat shill. I'm going through this just last night. Some 83 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: people are still saying this about me. Oh, you're Andre 84 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: Carson's best friend. You're a big lefty, You're nothing but 85 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: a shill for the Democrats. He said, wait a second, 86 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: No one is more conservative than me. Nobody believes more 87 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: in Republican principles than me. Nobody believes more in the 88 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: Republican Party platform than me. I get mad because the 89 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: Republicans don't do the things that they say they're going 90 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: to do. And I push back on that, and I 91 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: simply didn't think that handing them two more congressional seats 92 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: that they didn't earn was the best way to go 93 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: about making Republicans govern like Republicans. But you can't have 94 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: any perspective anymore. You can't come out and say, hey, 95 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: our maps are kind of fair. They kind of mirror 96 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: the maps that are now. Attorney General then Secretary of 97 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: State Todd Roketa proposed fifteen years ago, and he was 98 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: trying to take politics out of the process. If you 99 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: don't agree with doing this thing, then you are this 100 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: other thing. So in this case, if with the case 101 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: of the maps, if you didn't agree with changing the maps, 102 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: then you're some big lefty and some Andre Carson sympathizer. 103 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: In the case of Venezuela and Maduro, it seems like 104 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: if you say, well, I've got some concerns about us 105 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: quote unquote taking over because that hasn't gotten it hasn't 106 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: hasn't gotten over or gone well in the past, Well 107 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you're some drug dealing narco 108 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: terrorist sympathizer. It's kind of the Casey Show. By the way, 109 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: I'm Rob Casey's out today. Let's get to some audio 110 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: on this. Here is Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, and 111 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: one of the great debates, and again we'll get into 112 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: this throughout the course of the program today. One of 113 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: the great debates going on right now is whether or 114 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: not the President of the United States needed congressional approval 115 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: to take this action. Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, says, no. 116 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: Couldn't require congressional approval because this was not an invasion, 117 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 2: This is not an extended military operation. This is a 118 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: very precise operation that involved a couple of hours of action. 119 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: It was a very delicate operation too. It was one 120 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: that required all these conditions to be in place at 121 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: the right time, in the right place. You couldn't afford leaks, 122 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: We couldn't afford anything out there that would have endangered 123 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: the mission and gotten people killed or killed off the 124 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: mission and the optionality. We didn't even know if the 125 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: mission was going to happen. How can you notify something 126 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: you're not even sure if it can happen. Because in 127 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: order for it to happen, you needed to have weather 128 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: conditions in place. He needed to be at the right 129 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,239 Speaker 2: place at the right time. We needed to have forces 130 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: prepared to go. There were a lot of factors in place. 131 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: That was a trigger based operation. You can't notify that 132 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,679 Speaker 2: number one, because you don't even know what's going to happen, 133 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 2: if those conditions will ever align, And number two, you 134 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: can't risk it being disclosed. But this was not an 135 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 2: attack on Venezuela. This was a law enforcement function to 136 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: capture an indicted drug trafficker. And of course we needed 137 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: the Department of War to support it because they do 138 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: have anti aircraft missiles that could shoot down those heloicaus. 139 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: Will we had to take down radars, We had to 140 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: take down those anti air elements on the way in 141 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 2: and on the way out, and that's what this was 142 00:07:59,280 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: limited to. 143 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: Will you see congressional approval for any further action in 144 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: Venezuela or the region? 145 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: Well, we will see congressional approval for actions that require 146 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: congressional approval, but otherwise they will get congressional notification. And 147 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 2: this is not an operation that require congressional approval. In fact, 148 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: this is an operation. 149 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: Okay, So the the people on the left now who 150 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: are losing their minds over oh, he didn't go through 151 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: the Congress. That Look, you lost the high ground on 152 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: that numerous times with Obama, with Biden, with all these 153 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: people right like that. Those people are ridiculous who are 154 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: doing these crocodile tiers now over the fact that they 155 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: didn't go through the Congress. We waved bye bye. And 156 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're right to do it, but I'm 157 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: saying we waved bye bye to that. A long time ago, 158 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: there was clearly a warrant, a bounty on Maduro's head. 159 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: Biden and Kamala had put it there. There's audio we'll 160 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: play for you later, the program of Chuck Schumer chastising 161 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: lamenting the Trump administration for not getting Maduro. That's ridiculous. 162 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: Getting rid of Maduro is getting a really bad dude 163 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: off the street. There's no debate, there's no discussion. This 164 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: guy was a major drug trafficker. His regime was killing 165 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: thousands of people, including people in this country, from the 166 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: drugs that were coming into this country that were coming 167 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: from Venezuela. There's no doubt about any of that. But 168 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: I think at the same time you can also say 169 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: this wasn't This wasn't just some run of the mill 170 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: drug dealer. This was the head of the country. This 171 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: was the head of US, a sovereign nation. It is 172 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: that you would be naive to say this was not 173 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: and I'm look reasonable people get debate to discuss it, 174 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: but it wasn't. And I'm not saying extreme in the 175 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: sense of bad, as I've said, I see all sides 176 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: on this, but this was an extreme step to go 177 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: into the country and take out Essentially, he's still alive. 178 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: He has a hearing today at noon, But for all 179 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: intents and purposes, take out the head of a sovereign nation. 180 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: That's that's a really big deal. That's another step. But 181 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 1: for these Democrats who are screaming and huffing and puffing 182 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: about the American government going in and taking out really 183 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: bad people, terrorists who are who are killing others. Obama 184 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: did it, Biden, did it? Go back to Clinton? Did 185 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: it that that argument falls on deaf ears. We will 186 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: get into a lot more of this throughout the program 187 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: At today ninety three WIBC. It's Kennelly Casey Show. Is 188 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: there any other job you can think of where every 189 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: year you could not meet your expectations and you just 190 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: keep getting brought back. It's Kenneling Casey Show. I'm Rob 191 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: Casey's out today. Okay, So the Colts lose yesterday. It was, 192 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: I say, a meaningless game in the sense of the 193 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: Colts already knew they were not making the playoffs. Look, 194 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: they had injuries, but when you start the season the 195 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: way the Colts did with an eight and two record 196 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: and you end up eight and nine, it's an epic collapse. 197 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: And especially when you factor in that they made this 198 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: huge trade for Sauce Gardner. They have no first round 199 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: picks the next two years. They have no answer at quarterback. 200 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: You've got to start calling Anthony Richardson a bust. At 201 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: this point, they're a franchise in turmoil, and they have 202 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: essentially been in turmoil since Andrew Luck retired, and that 203 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: was a horrible, unforeseen blow to the franchise. Nobody's going 204 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 1: to dispute that. But we are now, what are we 205 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: seven years on from Andrew Luck stepping down? I mean, 206 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: at some point it's like always when a new president 207 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: takes over, what is it the first year you give 208 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: them and say, okay, you can blame the other guy 209 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: for the first year you're trying to fix that, and 210 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: then after that you kind of own what's going on. Right. 211 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: I thought that about when Obama took over for George W. Bush. 212 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: To what two to three years on, he's still blaming Bush. 213 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: That's ridiculous. You wanted the job, you signed up for it, 214 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 1: you said all these things are wrong, You're going to 215 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: fix it. At some point you have to do it. 216 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: You own the thing. And in the case of Chris Ballard, 217 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: we are now five years on from even making the playoffs. 218 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: We're a franchise that is, at best, in the best 219 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: of years, stuck in mediocrity, a nine to eight in 220 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: the modern seventeen game era, and once again you have 221 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: failed to make the playoffs. Yes, you had some bad 222 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: breaks in the sense of some injuries, but every team 223 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: has injuries. And if you're a fan of the Colts, 224 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: you have to look at this and say, once again, 225 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: with the same two guys at the top of the regime. 226 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: In this case it's Ballard and it's Stiken. They have 227 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: failed you as the patron. I mean, that's the business, right, 228 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: you are the customer. The product should be good football 229 00:12:58,440 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: at the end of the day. Look look at how 230 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: the playoffs are set up. Now, I've got to watch 231 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: the Bears on a streaming service Saturday night. So let's 232 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: not act like it's for the fans. Let's not act 233 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: like it's it's for the people. It's a money making operation. 234 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: The NFL is about making money. It is a business. 235 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: Now they rope us into thinking, well, we couldn't do 236 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: it without you. We'd be lost without you, the fans. 237 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: That's that's ridiculous. The reality is they are there to 238 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: make money, and in a money making operation, it is 239 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: about the product you provide. It's true whether you're in 240 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: the food industry, or the clothing industry, or the home 241 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: building industry or the National Football League. And in this case, 242 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: Chris Ballad is essentially the head, the CEO for lack 243 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: of a better term, in this case, they called the 244 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: general manager, has failed to produce a product that you, 245 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: the fan deserve, especially when you the fan are invested 246 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: with whether you want to be or not, because your 247 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: taxes have gone up for going on twenty years now 248 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: to pay for that team to have a free stadium. 249 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: And yes, almost every time we have a conversation without 250 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,599 Speaker 1: the Colts not living up the expectations, we're gonna have 251 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: a conversation about that taxpayer funded stadium. I live in Brownsburg, 252 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: I don't live in Indianapolis, and yet I still pay 253 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: higher taxes for Lucas Oil Stadium. So you're damn right, 254 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna bitch when the Colts don't live up to 255 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: their expectations. And once again, the Colts have let you, 256 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: the consumer, you the fan down. And we're not talking 257 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: like we have Super Bowl expectations here. We're talking sneak 258 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: in to the playoffs. We're talking about get us seventh seed. 259 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: We're talking about giving us an eighteenth football game. Even 260 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: if we get blown out, at least we had something 261 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: to look forward to. So can you think of any 262 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: other profession were for twenty one, twenty two, twenty three, 263 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty five, five consecutive years where the 264 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: head guy any other company in o their business where 265 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: for five years in a row, the head guy didn't 266 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: produce the expectations of the consumer, which is you, and 267 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: that person would keep getting brought back. If you're the 268 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: CEO of some Wall Street, some publicly traded company and 269 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: you don't meet earnings expectations for five years in a row, 270 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: do you think like, well, let's bring it back. He's 271 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: a nice guy, and we'll bring his top underlink back 272 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: to No. But this is the Indianapolis Colts, whether it 273 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: was Jim Orsay as the owner or now the daughter 274 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: and I come back to and I think this is 275 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: a major part of it. And I know people get 276 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: tired of me having the stadium conversation, but it's a 277 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: huge deal. When you don't earn something when it's given 278 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: to you, you don't appreciate it and you don't demand 279 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: something for it. And in the case of the Ursay 280 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: family and the Indianapolis Colts, their primary asset in terms 281 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: of the value of that team, because don't forget, not 282 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: only do they get what goes on in Lucas Oil 283 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: Stadium with the Colts and all the money that brings them, 284 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: they get what goes on a piece of the pile, 285 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: and what goes on anything inside a Lucas Oil Stadium. 286 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: They're making a gajillion dollars and it was handed to 287 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: them by the taxpayers. So yeah, maybe they don't have 288 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: the fire in the belly of somebody who has to 289 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: earn it. What other possible explanation could there be that 290 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: you keep bringing the same people back who keep giving 291 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: you the same mediocrity. It would never be tolerated in 292 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: the private sector, It would never be tolerated in a 293 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: business that had to make money. But in the case 294 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: of the Indianapolis Colts, their biggest asset, their biggest profit, 295 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: their biggest thing that makes revenue, the URSA family was 296 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: given by us, the taxpayers. Hey, the Indiana General Assembly 297 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: starting today, let's get to it. We'll talk about it. 298 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 1: We come back. Kenel A. Casey Show ninety three WIBC. 299 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: They can do it, they just don't want to do it. 300 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: Never forget that anytime we talk about the government, it's 301 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: Kennell and Casey Show. I'm Rob Casey's out today and 302 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: our General Assembly here in Indiana. I guess you would 303 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: technically say they're reconvening, because of course they already started 304 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: in December with the redistricting debacle, and one of the things. 305 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: So this is what we call the short session. So 306 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: Indiana's legislature meets once a year most of the time, 307 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: unless there's some sort of emergency session like we saw 308 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: in the abortion bill or the governor initially called with 309 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: redistricting that went offers so long that it became the 310 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: regular session. But most years they will meet one time 311 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: a year, the even years of what we call the 312 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: short session, in which it usually lasts from January until 313 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: the middle of March. The odd years budget years we 314 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: crafted to your budget here in the state of Indiana. 315 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: Those are the even years, and those usually go into 316 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: the middle of April. And normally the big stuff, the 317 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: really big stuff, gets done in the odd years, just 318 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: simply because one they're working on how to allocate the 319 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: state's resources, but two they have more time to get 320 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: things done. However, anything can happen at any time, and 321 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: as we have seen with these guys, I can't say 322 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: they're down the street from us anymore. Look new Year, 323 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: new Us, right, it's the new studio. I know many 324 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: of you have been observing the various other esteemed individuals 325 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: who have continued to broadcast throughout the holiday season, but 326 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: for me, I had one day here and then I 327 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: went on three weeks of vacation, and as many of 328 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: you know, I have what we call pretty decent OCD, 329 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: obsessive compulsive disorder. Now that doesn't mean like I need 330 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: to be locked in a padded room and that I 331 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: can't leave my house. It just means, and we've talked 332 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: about this many times over the years, that my OCD, 333 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: I'm very specific about where things are and how they're done. 334 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 1: Like I like my things in a certain place. I 335 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: like things to sound a certain way that when I 336 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: do my broadcasting, and this is all different to me, 337 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 1: Like the sound is different. I've been doing things the 338 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: same way every day for nine years, and now the 339 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: sound is all different. And so at every break, like 340 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: this just sounds different in my ears. Every it sounds fine, 341 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: it sounds exactly the same as it did before, but 342 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: it sounds different in my ears. And so every break 343 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: I'm rushing in asking our producers if it sounds okay, 344 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: and they're telling me to get the hell out of 345 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: their workspace and that they have things to do and 346 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: things to accomplish. But the point of all of this 347 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: coming back, I didn't even know where I was going 348 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: with that. But what I know is we're about to 349 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: start the General Assembly, and what's going to be fascinating 350 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: this year is going to be a new layer that 351 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: has been thrown into this, which is Governor Mike Braun's 352 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: threat during the redistricting debacle, which, by the way, let's 353 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: just call it what it was whatever, regardless of what 354 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: side you were on on that the way that was handled, 355 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: the way it played out was an embarrassment and a 356 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: debacle for our state. And all of that rests on 357 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: the shoulders of Mike Braun, because just like he did 358 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: with property taxes and the property tax bill that he 359 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: caved on, he wrote checks with his mouth that his 360 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: actions could not cash. And I was watching this play 361 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: out over the many months, thinking, this same group of 362 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: people who so desperately once redistricting is about to be 363 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: into for a world of hurt and a world of 364 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: sadness and a world of disappointment, the same way we 365 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: were with property taxes. Because these people have not learned 366 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: you can't trust Mike Braun. Mike bron has no juice 367 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: in that state House. You can't trust him. The people 368 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: there don't like him, the members of the House certainly 369 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: the Senate, and they like his lieutenant governor even less. 370 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: And so now what's going to be fascinating is Braun's 371 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: first year was a complete dumpster fire. And a little 372 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: later on in the program, we're going to get into 373 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: this polling that came out over Christmas about Mike Braun 374 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: in his home county. I know some people touched on 375 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: it a little bit, but there's a whole bunch of 376 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: stuff that relates that we're going to get into it 377 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: next hour because there's something very very important going on 378 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: with why Mike Broun is so hated in his own 379 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: home county. And we are going to talk about this 380 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: at length over the next couple weeks because it's very important, 381 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: and it's a story that nobody's been paying attention to, 382 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: and it has the potential to be a massive story. 383 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: But the point of all this is the Senate can't 384 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: stand the guy. The House maybe at best kind of indifferent, 385 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: probably don't really like him either. And then you couple that, 386 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: so his first year is a complete dumpster fire. Property 387 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: taxes doesn't go through. Everybody's pissed off about that. Now 388 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 1: he's failed unredistricting and in the process of doing that, 389 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: he has threatened to defeat senators who didn't do what 390 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: he wanted. Several of them are up for reelection this year. 391 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: There are people going to run against them, who have 392 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: announced they're going to run against them in the upcoming 393 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: May primary. Think about what a poison pill the governor 394 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: has done for anything he claims to want to accomplish 395 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: by telling people who didn't do what he wanted to do, 396 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: who were simply listening to their constituents. Because unlike property taxes, 397 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: where the people really wanted it, and these senators, these 398 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 1: house members were listening to the connected people, the township trustees, 399 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: the school board people, the superin tendons. We got screwed 400 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: because they were listening to the power and that connected. 401 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: In the case of redistricting, every public opinion poll showed 402 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: that people were against the redistricting. And so Braun in 403 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: threatening these senators, you think they're gonna want to work 404 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: with him. You think they're gonna be like, well, you 405 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: just threatened to take me out of my job. How 406 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 1: can I help you, mister governor? What can I do 407 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,959 Speaker 1: for you? Of course that's not going to happen. You 408 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: think Rod Bray, the leader of the Senate, who was 409 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: not only threatened by Braun but also the President of 410 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: the United States, whose life was made a living hell 411 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: because Braun wouldn't take no for an answer. Brave Rod 412 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: Bray was trying to help Braun in all of this. 413 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: I'm loaded to say anything nice about Rod Bray, the 414 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: protim of the Senate, as many of you know, but 415 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: he was trying to say Braun from himself and all 416 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: he got with that for that was grief. You think 417 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: that guy is gonna lift a finger to help Mike 418 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 1: Braun accomplish anything. Of course, not so in a short session, 419 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: which is generally not all that interesting. I mean for 420 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: nerds like us, right, there's these policy things that happen 421 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: and we go, ooh, this is gonna be juicy. The 422 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: average person not that interesting. It's going to be fascinating 423 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: this year because of the personal drama. It's going to 424 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: unfold the personal animosity that no doubt exists from these 425 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: senators who didn't do anything wrong. They simply listened to 426 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: their constituents, in which there was overwhelming opposition for many 427 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: of them who voted no un redistricting. And now they've 428 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: got to come back and work with the governor. That 429 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,479 Speaker 1: is going to be the arc of the upcoming session 430 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: that begins today. How do these senators who were treated 431 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: so poorly by the governor, how do they work with 432 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: him going forward? Ninety three WIBC. It's Kennlly Casey Show. 433 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: So we don't talk a lot of sports on this show, 434 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: but we do when it sort of intersects with society. 435 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 1: Killy Casey Show, ninety three WIBC. I'm Rob Casey's out 436 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: today now. Of course, we talked earlier on the program 437 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: about the Colts and their season wrapping up, and we 438 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: did that because you are essentially a stakeholder in the Colts. 439 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: If you're in Central Indiana, most of you, whether you 440 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: want to be or not, because your money is on 441 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: the line. You money has taken from you, the taxes 442 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: have gone up, You're invested in the Colts. You have 443 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: an interest, whether you're a football fan or not, in 444 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: the Colts and how they're doing because your money is 445 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: on the line and your money's a part of that. 446 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: In the case of Indiana, I think they've just kind 447 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: of captivated the nation, and that sounds so weird to 448 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: say Indiana football that's captivated the nation, and a major 449 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: part of that. Look, I think there's two things at play. 450 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: Number one is the quick way in which they turn 451 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: this program around, right, I mean, like this is a 452 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 1: heard of to essentially be the worst program or one 453 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: of the worst programs in all of college football, certainly 454 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:10,479 Speaker 1: over a period of time, and then become arguably the best. 455 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: It's an incredible story. It's one of the most interesting 456 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: stories in the past decade in sports, and that's very 457 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: interesting to people. Also because Indiana is a major university 458 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: right clearly because of their basketball program. They've been on 459 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: the national stage. Their baseball program has been outstanding, their 460 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: swimming program. You know, it's not like it's some unknown school, 461 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: and they have a massive fan base to begin with, 462 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: so when the football program got good, there was a 463 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: huge vacuum of people there to say, hey, we're interested 464 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: in this now that the team is decent. But I 465 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: also think on top of the story of going from 466 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: worst to first, which is fascinating, it's sort of an 467 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 1: underdog story, which is weird. As big as the university is, 468 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: is the coach himself. I think Kurt Signetti and his 469 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: sort of like Bob Knight, never looked happy, No matter 470 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: how well I you did. Bob Knight never looked happy, 471 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: but he also looked enraged and angry. Right, Like he's 472 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: throwing a chair, he's allegedly choking a kid, he's screaming 473 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 1: at a ref, he's getting kicked out of games. Right. 474 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: Signetti never looks happy, but he doesn't look enraged about it. Right, 475 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, does that make sense to you? Like 476 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: when you see him, there's all these memes, there's all 477 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: these gifts of him, you know, the thing of him 478 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: looking to see whether they got that first down where 479 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: he had. This is how I look at the at 480 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: the donut shop when I'm figuring out which donuts yount Like. 481 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: It's funny. He's endearing. His lack of personality is in 482 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,719 Speaker 1: dear and his facial expressions are endearing because there's something 483 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: about a guy who's the best at what he does 484 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: and yet never looks happy about it, Like he always 485 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: wants more, but he's not an ass about it. Like 486 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: I think that's what it comes down to. Signetti, Like 487 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: he's it seems like a very decent person who is 488 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,959 Speaker 1: just driven to be the best, and he's never happy 489 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: even with what people perceive as perfection. And I mitched 490 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: all of this because he was asked about his coaching philosophy. 491 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: And some of these coaches are like twenty four to seven. 492 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: I live in the locker room, I live in the 493 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: film room. I'm always there and signetti. And this surprised me. 494 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: He said, Nah, that's not me. Let's get it done, 495 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: let's do it to the best of our ability. Let's 496 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: go home. Listen to this. 497 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 3: I was growing up. I didn't like when people wasted 498 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 3: my time, and I don't want to I don't want 499 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 3: to waste the player's time, and I don't want to 500 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 3: waste the coaches time. And I don't make the coaches 501 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 3: stay at night. Maybe that's why God guy's been with 502 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 3: me so long, all right, And we started at seven, 503 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 3: seven thirty in the morning like everybody else, and you 504 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 3: stay till your work's done. And I'm not checking to 505 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 3: see who's there and who isn't right, But I can 506 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 3: tell you one thing. Well, we're't at off office. It's 507 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 3: all business, you know, it is all business. It's organized preparation. 508 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 3: And we're on that practice field. 509 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 4: Look Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, our thirty five to an hour 510 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 4: forty five, our thirty five to an hour forty five 511 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 4: Monday walk through, Friday shorter walkthrough. 512 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 3: I believe in keeping them fresh and healthy, and our 513 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 3: players like the way we run the program. We've had 514 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 3: a great culture for the last eight to ten years downstairs, 515 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 3: you know. And you can't put a value on a 516 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 3: great culture. Now, winning helps, no doubt, but the right 517 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 3: kind of people believing in your process, your blueprint, your 518 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 3: plan helps too. 519 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: Now this sh hit home for me because this is 520 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: how I've sort of done everything I've ever done in 521 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: my life, whether it's business or now radio or government. 522 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: We know what needs to be done, and if we 523 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: know what needs to be done, the key to getting 524 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: that goal, accomplishing that goal is putting people around you 525 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: who you can trust and share your vision. And if 526 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: you have people that are as dedicated to the cause, 527 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: whatever that cause may be as you are, whether it's business, 528 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: whether it's sports, whatever I mean. I think you'd even 529 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: say that the same thing about a home life, right Like, 530 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: if you have a parent, If you're a parent and 531 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: your wife or your husband as is invested in parenting 532 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: as you are, that's a great spouse to choose, whatever 533 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: the thing is. If you have people you can trust. 534 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: You surround yourself by people you can trust, who you 535 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: know are as dedicated to the vision as you are. 536 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: Then you know that they know when they've put in 537 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: the proper amount of effort, that they've put in the 538 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: proper amount of time. And it all flows together in life, 539 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: and it's we're talking about a football coach here in life, 540 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: whether again it's business or whatever, when everybody's moving with 541 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: their hand. I heard this one I was very young, 542 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: and it always stayed with me. When everybody's moving with 543 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: their hand on the football in the same direction. That 544 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: is a company, that is an organization, that is a 545 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: sports team, that is a household that is going to succeed. 546 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: And in the case of a Kurt Signetti, he only 547 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: surrounds himself, whether it is players or coaches or administrators, 548 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: who are as dedicated to the cause as he is, 549 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: and he knows that he can trust them. So let's 550 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: bring this back to how this affects our lives, because 551 00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: that was the point of playing this clip. It wasn't 552 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: just that he's a great coach, or that I use 553 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: the best, or that I use gonna win the national championship. 554 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: We all know that's gonna happen, especially those of us 555 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: who grabbed IU at plus four to twenty before the 556 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: tournament started. Okay, the point of this is think of it. 557 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: Compare that to your government, though. Do you believe that 558 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: you're elected officials, whether it's let's just use the state 559 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: Assembly or the state lawmakers. But you could apply this 560 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: to your county councilmen, your city councilmen, many of your mayors. 561 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: Do you believe that there is invested in a positive 562 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: outcome in your life as you are? I mean, you 563 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: are the customer you are, then you are the fan base. Essentially, 564 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: you are the person. You're not buying merch you're paying taxes, 565 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: You're not buying tickets, You're paying taxes. You're funding what 566 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: they're doing. You're funding their company. Do you think there 567 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: is a they are a fraction as an invested in 568 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: your life as you are. Do you think when they 569 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: the people they surround themselves with. I have this conversation 570 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: all the time when I go to the local town 571 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: council meetings in Brownsburg and I say this to these people, 572 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: and they stare at me because they have no idea 573 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I say, the problem with you people, 574 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: which there are many, is you are more invested in 575 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: the idea of the entity than the people in it. 576 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: You always talk about that, in my case, the town this, 577 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: the town that, But what about how it affects the 578 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: people in it. I don't give damn about the town. 579 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: It's not living, it's not breathing. But to the governmental people, 580 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: the government people, the elected people, the high ranking appoint 581 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: of view, I'm not talking about your rank and file 582 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: government workers. There's many fine people, but the tippy top people, 583 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: whether it's at the federal level or the state level 584 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: or the local level, they and the people around them 585 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: are not invested in the same cause that you are, 586 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: and rightfully so you don't trust them. And we're not 587 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: in the same direction. It's a huge reason our society 588 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: is so screwed up because the shot callers, the head 589 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: coaches for lack of a better term, are not sharing 590 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: the same vision that you have. We're not all with 591 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: Indiana now. It's all hands on deck. Whether you went 592 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: there one year ago or you went there fifty years ago. 593 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: Everybody says, hey, let's go IU. Everybody's moving in the 594 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: same direction. And Kurt Signetti knows that every person in 595 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: that building shares the vision that he does. And until 596 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: our government is that way and the vision, and this 597 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: is what's most important. Kurt Signetti's vision is win a 598 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: national championship, win every game, go undefeated. The blueprint is 599 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: very simple. In the case of our elected people, the 600 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: vision from them should be to give you the best 601 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: life possible or more simport they allow you to create 602 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: the best life possible for yourself while taking the least. 603 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: That ain't their vision. You know what their vision is, 604 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: Help the people that give us the money, help the donors, 605 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: help the lobbyists. It'd be like if the coach if 606 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: Signetti was playing I don't know North Carolina, and he 607 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: was calling plays that fit the North Carolina defense, he 608 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: wouldn't be calling plays to help himself, in this case, 609 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: help his own team. He's calling plays to help the 610 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: other team. And until that changes, until we're all like 611 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti and IU Football with a shared vision of 612 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: all hands on the football, moving forward for the better 613 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: lives of ourselves while taking less from us, we're going 614 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,240 Speaker 1: to have complete chaos in our government at all levels. 615 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: All Right, we've got a big second hour coming up. 616 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: We've got again to get into a major issue that 617 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: for some reason, Look, I'm totally guilty of this that 618 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: nobody here in central India seems to be talking about. 619 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: It's taking place in southern Indiana. And it came to 620 00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: my attention when this poll came out on Governor Or 621 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: Braun about how people feel about him and his home county, 622 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: and it was so brutally bad for him. I said, 623 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: why is this? Why is this happening? And then I 624 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: started looking into it, and the reason for this is shocking. 625 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: The reason for this will blow your mind. We'll get 626 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: into that. Tim Wallas is apparently not running for reelection. 627 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: We got to talk about the Minnesota daycare scandal. We 628 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: got a huge second hour coming up. Casey's out today 629 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 1: Kettle The Casey Show, ninety three WIBC