1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: It's the Hammer and Nigel Weekend Show on ninety three WYBC. Hello, everybody, 2 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: my name is Nigel Jasenhammer right over there with a 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: very special guest on the hotline. 4 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 2: One of our favorites is the president of the Fraternal 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 2: Order of Police, Lodge eighty six. Rick Snyder joins us. Rick, 6 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: let's get down to it here. We've been talking a 7 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,159 Speaker 2: lot about what's going on with the alleged killer of 8 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: Ellwood officer Noah shannav Oz. This is a guy that 9 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 2: has had multiple psychiatrists testify to a judge that he's 10 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: not mentally competent to stay in trial, and ultimately the 11 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 2: judge has basically stated. 12 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 3: All right, I agree, We're going to send. 13 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: Him away to some rehab facility and we'll check back 14 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: in again here in about ninety days. I don't like 15 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: the trend here, Rick, I feel like some of these 16 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: killers and scum bags are doing this on purpose. 17 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 3: That's my opinion. 18 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 4: What about you, Well, guys, I think you're right. It's 19 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 4: the trend that you're seeing all across our state, but 20 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 4: really all across our country, which is the abuse of 21 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 4: this so called competency determinations. You know, they said that 22 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 4: the offender in this case lacked the ability to understand 23 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 4: the criminal proceedings and was unable to assist in preparation 24 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 4: of their defense. Here's the point in my response, You've 25 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 4: got to be kidding me. He didn't have any problems 26 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 4: dumping thirty six rounds into a cop and he didn't 27 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 4: have any problems understanding right from wrong when he then 28 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 4: violently fled and resisted arrest. And he didn't have any 29 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 4: problem understanding his intentions to stab a prison guard with 30 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 4: a hand fashioned, handcrafted, pre made knife while awaiting trial. 31 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 4: Yet here we sit with defense lawyers who first tried 32 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 4: to plead insanity, but they were even forced to withdraw 33 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,559 Speaker 4: that eventually. And now we see that everything keeps getting 34 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 4: blamed on this issue of mental health. The guys, here's 35 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 4: what the message is. Evil is evil, and the more 36 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 4: we dismiss it, the more we make excuses for it, 37 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 4: the more apt we are to be bitten by it. 38 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 4: And what you're seeing as the remaining junk judicial exhaust 39 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 4: of what we have called the Stoner Special Judge Mark Stoner, 40 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 4: who gave a lenient sentence to the same cop killer 41 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 4: years prior in Indianapolis when he was convicted for trying 42 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 4: to shoot and kill police officers. Here we spoke out 43 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 4: about that, and if you remember, his peers in the 44 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 4: judicial world condemned us for doing so, and here we 45 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 4: sit reaping what he sowed those years back. And guys, 46 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 4: it's something that's got to change. We're hopeful that we'll 47 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 4: see a change after this treatment plan that he is on. 48 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 4: But I think it ultimately begs the question, do the 49 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 4: judges involved and do the practitioners that do the mental 50 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 4: health examinations. It would be interesting to know if they 51 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 4: are truly supporters of the death penalty in the state 52 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 4: of Indiana or if they secretly are opposed to the 53 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 4: death penalty and use the cover of these proceedings to 54 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 4: enact their own personal opinion. 55 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: And Michael stand My old point is what incentive does 56 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: this subhuman now have to quote unquote get rehabilitated so 57 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: he has the ability to stand trial. Like he could 58 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: fake it. He could act like a crazy pres like, 59 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: oh okay, I'm going to go to this rehab facility 60 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: and I'm going to get better so I could stand 61 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: trial and so they could possibly put me to death. 62 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: I just don't see any incentive at all. For this, 63 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. 64 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 4: Well, and guys, what you're seeing are judges like Judge 65 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 4: Mark Stoner, who, even in the criminal proceedings for the 66 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 4: cop killer in the officer Brian Leaf case, yes you know, 67 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 4: was later found to have erred in his level of 68 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 4: conviction in charges for being too lenient by the Indiana 69 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 4: Supreme Court. Yet even in that Judge Stoner sought out 70 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 4: himself the fact to make excuses for the offender. And 71 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 4: guys got lost in the shuffle, but they even tried 72 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 4: to make the excuse of a football concussion when the 73 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 4: offender was a child for being an excuse for assassinating 74 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 4: a police officer. That's what we're dealing with. And that's 75 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 4: why we say the sanctity of life for the victims. 76 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 4: People forget those folks. The victims must mean more than 77 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 4: the personal opinions and affiliations of those who are passing judgment. Rick. 78 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 3: One more thing. 79 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: On this before we move on, because we have a 80 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: couple of other things I want to get your opinion on. 81 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 2: But I want to make everybody perfectly aware though this 82 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 2: is a Madison County judge that's in charge of Noah 83 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: Shannavaz's case, it's not judge Mark Stoner. But what do 84 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: we do in situations Rick, where you've got to judge 85 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: But he's got these psychiatrists coming to him saying, yeah, 86 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: this guy's not mentally competent. How does a judge handle 87 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 2: that type of situation? 88 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 4: Well, I think a judicial review has to step through 89 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 4: that medical diagnosis process. It appears that this judge is 90 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 4: taking the course of at least sending for the treatment 91 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 4: plan over the next ninety days or so, and then 92 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 4: another determination and evaluation. The goal is to restore him 93 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 4: to competency. That's what the court has said. We're trusting 94 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 4: that's what will occur. And then we know that the 95 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 4: Madison County prosecutor is more than prepared to move forward 96 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 4: with prosecuting this case. But guys, it can't get lost 97 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 4: in the shuffle. This is the detrimental effects of the 98 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 4: revolving door that that case in Madison County tracks all 99 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 4: the way back to Indianapolis, with prior attempts on officers' 100 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 4: lives being dismissed by an Indianapolis judge. And that's why 101 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 4: folks across Indiana have to be concerned with what's occurring 102 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 4: in their capital city. And beyond. It begs the question, 103 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 4: and this is what people in the community are left saying, 104 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 4: do we really believe this is how it would be 105 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 4: handled if the same type of violence and attacks were 106 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 4: being directed upon the very decision makers involved in these issues. 107 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 4: I think most anyone would know that if this was 108 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 4: an attack, such a heinous attack on a judge, God forbid, 109 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 4: no one would advocate that. 110 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 5: But if the. 111 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 4: Roles were reversed, you're telling me this is the same 112 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 4: approach they would take. We throw the BS flag on that. 113 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 4: And we should not be dismissing the lives of our 114 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 4: officers who enforce the law that they are adjudicating. 115 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: Speaking with Rick Sneider, President of the Fraternal Order of Police, 116 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: Lodge eighty six here in Indy, Rick, this may be 117 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: the last time we speak before the end of the year. 118 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 2: So big picture here, where is Indy at in terms 119 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: of our crime our homicide rate? I know the folks 120 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 2: in the Mayor's office and the prosecutor's office, they're real 121 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 2: quick to do victory lapse when we don't set a record. 122 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: What should speak volumes that they have to celebrate when 123 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: we don't set a record. 124 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 5: But where are we at well, we're currently. 125 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 4: At one hundred and fifty nine homicides in the city 126 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 4: of Indianapolis, which is much better than where we typically 127 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 4: have been for the last five years. No one is 128 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 4: dismissing that. But the key indicator that we keep pointing 129 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 4: to is your rate of reduction matching or exceeding comparable 130 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 4: cities throughout the nation. And what we have been consistently 131 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 4: in showing is other cities are coming down as well. 132 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 4: Yet Indianapolis is not on a decrease that is as 133 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 4: fast or as much as these other cities. Proof positive 134 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 4: comparative analysis shows that Indianapolis still is outpacing Chicago in 135 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 4: homicides per capita the last time we checked by seventeen percent. 136 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 4: So I think that's why you see Chief Bailey hedging 137 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 4: his comments by saying, this is no victory, this is 138 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 4: not satisfactory. We know there is still plenty of more 139 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 4: work to do, but it's important to note this. Our 140 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 4: officers and our detectives have busted their asses to try 141 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 4: to make this city safe in spite of the revolving 142 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 4: door of criminal justice, In spite of this lacklust or 143 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 4: prosecutor we have, and in spite of rogue judges that 144 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 4: we run up on. So they are to be commended 145 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 4: for what they're putting to risk. And I think we're 146 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 4: seeing the outcomes of that. Imagine what it could be 147 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 4: if some of these other things were different. So our 148 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 4: challenge to Indianapolis is let's get below one hundred homicides 149 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty six. That will really be saying something. 150 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: And in spite of a shortage of IMPD officers, what 151 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: does recruitment end, no doubt retention? What does recruitment and 152 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: retention look like? Is it getting any better in that area? 153 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, we just put a class of twenty five in. 154 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 4: We've got a commitment for three classes in twenty twenty six, 155 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 4: which is huge. And you know that's a great point, Nigel. 156 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 4: All of that was done by our officers literally with 157 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 4: one of their hands tied behind their back, with three 158 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 4: hundred and fifty officers short of where we should be. 159 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 4: So it's just unbelievable work by our officers. 160 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 5: They're to be commended. 161 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 4: That's why our community supports them so much and we're 162 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 4: grateful for it. 163 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 2: Rick, one more thing here before we let you go 164 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 2: in again, we thank you for your time. You are 165 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 2: the national Chaplain, National chaplain for the Fraternal Order of Police. 166 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 2: You go all over the country. I've seen you do baptisms. 167 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 2: I've seen you talk to family members who have just 168 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 2: lost a loved one and they're in their darkest hour. 169 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: I want to ask you right now to be Chaplain 170 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 2: Rick Snyder, and if this is the last time we 171 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 2: speak before Christmas, give us something uplifting that we can 172 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: take into the holidays. 173 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 4: Well, we're in twenty twenty five, guys, getting ready to 174 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 4: go into twenty twenty six, if you can even believe that. 175 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 4: But it's important to remember twenty and twenty five AD, 176 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 4: and that AD stands for Anno Domini, which means the 177 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 4: year of our Lord. Remember count those years back twenty 178 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 4: twenty five, twenty twenty four, twenty twenty two thousand, keep going, 179 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 4: and ultimately you're going to count back to something that 180 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 4: happened that was rather large, if you will. And that 181 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 4: is what the scriptures promised us, which is unto us. 182 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 4: A savior was born and is Christ the Lord. But 183 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 4: it didn't end there, guys. It's important to remember that 184 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 4: God became flesh, he walked upon this earth, he died 185 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 4: on a cross to restore us back to the Father 186 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 4: and forgive us for our sins. But he was also buried, 187 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 4: and according to the scriptures, he rose again three days 188 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 4: later and he walked upon this earth. He's gone back 189 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 4: into heaven. The guys, here's the real kicker, and he's 190 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 4: coming back. So the great message for us to think 191 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 4: this Christmas season is for God so loved the world, 192 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 4: that's all of us, anyone listening to this, that he gave. 193 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,119 Speaker 4: There's the gift, his only begotten son, and that whoever 194 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 4: that's all races, nations and peoples, whoever believes in him, 195 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 4: shall not perish, but have everlasting life. And he didn't 196 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 4: send him to condemn us, but to save us. And 197 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 4: it's all free of charge, guys. So remember as we close, 198 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 4: the true value of a gift is what one gives 199 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 4: gives up to give it. So that tells me that 200 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 4: you hammer you, Nigel, and anyone listening to this, if 201 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 4: they believe you, must be pretty special, my friend. Don't 202 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 4: forget that. That's why we say Mary Christmas, Christmas, be 203 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 4: blessed and have a prosperous New Year. 204 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 2: We love you, guys y, you been so good to 205 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 2: our show and I am honored to consider you a 206 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 2: friend and he God bless you, your family, the officers 207 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 2: that you're overseeing right now, and I look forward to 208 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: more conversations in twenty twenty six. 209 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 5: Thank you, Hey, we love you. 210 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 4: Nothing you can do about it, be blessed. 211 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 6: Thank You're listening to The Hammer and Nigel Show, did it? 212 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 5: Did it right? We get a feud? 213 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: Is this a few between Piers Morgan and Candace Owens 214 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: or is this as a result of Candace Owens meeting 215 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: with Charlie Kirk's widow, Erica Kirk behind closed doors after 216 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: the things that Candace Owens, a political flamethrower talking head 217 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: influencer on the Internet, has been saying that, you know, 218 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: turning Point USA at a part in Charlie Kirk's death, 219 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: Erica was somehow involved in it. Is reel somehow involved 220 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: in it? What are we looking at here? 221 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 5: Hammer? 222 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 3: A little bit of both. Yeah, if we're being honest, I. 223 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 2: Feel like Here's Morgan knows what Candace Owens has been doing, 224 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: but I also feel like he thinks she's full of crap. 225 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 5: So Candas Owens one. 226 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 2: Went on with Piers Morgan and we've got a couple 227 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: of different clips here and we'll let you guys be 228 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 2: the judge of how this plays out. 229 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 3: Here's the first one. 230 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 7: So when you say that somebody at Turning Point, USA, 231 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 7: Charlie's company was complicit in his murder? Who who was? 232 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 8: I believe that there were multiple people at Turning Point 233 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 8: who are, as I have said many times, my exact 234 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 8: words aren't they are engaged in a cover up of 235 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 8: what happened to Charlie on that day, But who was 236 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 8: involved in I didn't say that they murdered Charlie. 237 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 7: You said were complicit in his murder. 238 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 8: No, My exact sentence that I said was that there 239 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 8: were people at Turning Point who are engaged in a 240 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:29,719 Speaker 8: cover up. 241 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 6: I believe you thorally? 242 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 7: Can you You didn't say that, You said literally, you 243 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 7: said there were people at Turning Point complicit in his murder. 244 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 7: That's what you said, now. 245 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: Nigen, No, you don't watch as much classic television as 246 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: I did growing up, But there was an Old Brady 247 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 2: Bunch episode where Greg Brady wanted to go by exact words, 248 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: and if his exact words said something, that's what we 249 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 2: were going with. Interesting, and I feel like Candace Owens 250 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 2: is trying to pull that crap too. 251 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 5: We know what she's talking about. 252 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 2: We know what she's trying to say, but she's trying 253 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: to tell Piers Morgan. Well, technically I said this, No, 254 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 2: we know what you meant. 255 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 5: Here's a little more. 256 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 8: I believe that there are people at Turning Point who 257 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 8: are engaged in covering up what happened on that. 258 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 7: Day, engaged in the planning of the murder of Charlie Kirk. 259 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 8: I wouldn't know how it was planned. Apps, I can't 260 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 8: make that. I cannot confidently make that statement. I can 261 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 8: say confidently that I know they're engaged in the cover 262 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 8: up because I've been investigating what happened on that day 263 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 8: and what transpired thereafter. 264 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 6: I've been clear. 265 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 5: I've named those people on my show. 266 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 8: I've said they are engaged in the cover up, and 267 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 8: I've listed the lies. So you don't have to try 268 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 8: to make something out of what I didn't say. I 269 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 8: tell you what I think. It's already controversial. We don't 270 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 8: need to get more controversial. 271 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 6: Okay. 272 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 8: Do I think someone at Turning Point pulled the trigger? No, obviously, 273 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 8: I don't think someone. 274 00:14:55,840 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 7: Turning Turning Point, in your opinion, know that Charlie Kirk 275 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 7: was going to be murdered. 276 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 8: There is specifically two people at Turning Point, USA, and 277 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 8: I have communicated that information to Erica and Justin Streith 278 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 8: that I would not be surprised if they had for 279 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 8: knowledge of Charlie Kirk being assassinated. I'm not going to 280 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 8: name I am not going to name those people, okay, 281 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 8: because it's not right for me to name those people 282 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 8: until I know for a fact that. 283 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 7: Did you give the names to Did you give the 284 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 7: names to Erica? 285 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 2: Yes, so you gave the names to Erica Kirk. You 286 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 2: go on your big time podcast. Now, when we say podcast, 287 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 2: some people think, oh, these are two guys in their 288 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 2: basement with no reach. Candice Owen's podcast huge. 289 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 5: It's massive, It's one of the top ones. 290 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: She goes out there with that, but then acts like, oh, 291 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 2: by the way, I can't tell you anything. Well, then 292 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 2: you probably shouldn't put it out there. Let's see, let's 293 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,239 Speaker 2: see how this whole thing plays out. 294 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 7: I truly did I gave the names to Erica of 295 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 7: two employees, current employees at Turning Point, who you believe 296 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 7: were involved in the preparation for the murder of Charlie Kirk. 297 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 8: Is that what you're saying I told them that if 298 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 8: if I were in your shoes, the would these would 299 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 8: be two employees that I would look further into. 300 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 7: What evidence do you have that they had any prime 301 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 7: knowledge of the murder? 302 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 8: Because I don't have concrete evidence is the reason why 303 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 8: I'm not naming them. 304 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 7: So you're telling the widow that these two people may 305 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 7: have been involved in the murder. 306 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 8: You see the prob what the evidence for it is 307 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 8: people that they there is not concrete evidence. It's like 308 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 8: you're trying to get me to say something that I 309 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 8: never said and then asking me to defend. 310 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 7: It, and what evidences actually go to. 311 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 8: You're asking me privately, did I communicate to them that 312 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 8: I think you should look further. 313 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 6: That's called an investigation, Piers. 314 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: So you're telling Erica Kirk, the widow of Charlie, these 315 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 2: two people may have known something, but I've got no 316 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 2: evidence to back it up. What kind of crap is that? 317 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: And then it goes back to the question we had 318 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: yesterday or whenever we were talking about this week, why 319 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: would Eric Kirk meet with her? You know, there was 320 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: some behind closed door meeting for a few hours. I 321 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: think it lasted. I wouldn't have met with her at all. 322 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 5: And I don't just Candice Owens is a flame doer. 323 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: She's very talented, very specific in her thoughts, very just 324 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: a great just a great communicator, very smart, huge audience. 325 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, like her, and she used to work for 326 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: The Daily Wire where right, and then her and Ben 327 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: Shapiro got sideways over Israel, right, And so she's out 328 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: on her own now. I don't know, man, I just think, yeah, 329 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: going to Erica Kirk and saying, hey, you might want 330 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: to take a look at these guys. I don't have 331 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: any evidence, but I just you know, just do your own. 332 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: What is Erica Kirk going to do an investigation? 333 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 5: Right? 334 00:17:58,160 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 3: So let me ask you this, Nige. 335 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 2: And this may hurt a little bit because I know 336 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 2: how much you feel about one of these people who's 337 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 2: had a bigger fall from Grace. In terms of the 338 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: conservative media movement, Candace Owens or Tucker Carlson. 339 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: Either, Candace by far more than Tucker talks to people, 340 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 1: talks to controversial people, people that he's interested in. The 341 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: reason people are mad at Tucker is because he's flipped 342 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: on his opinions about Israel. He thinks the war in Gaza, 343 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: he thinks it's it's the United States, it's the Israel, Boston, 344 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: the United States around, and I don't think he used 345 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: to have those thoughts, And I think that's the reason 346 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: why I don't have a problem hit with him talking 347 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: to guys like Nick Fuentez. It was an interesting conversation. 348 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 2: But when he comes out and says tonight, what I've 349 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 2: been told is that the President's going to be talking 350 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 2: about war with Venezuela. 351 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 3: And nothing came close to that last night that. 352 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if that was There's no way that 353 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: was planned. What congressman was he he said, he said, 354 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: he said he heard from two congressmen that you know, yeah, 355 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: Trump's gonn announce a war with the Venezuela. 356 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 3: But a Democrat congressman, I. 357 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: Mean, yeah, so that kind of made him look foolish 358 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: unless they're playing, you know, maybe he's playing three D 359 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: chess with Trump and Trump is manipulating that whole narrative. 360 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 3: I mean, who in. 361 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: Their right mind believes Trump wants to go to war 362 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: boots on the ground with Venezuela. That Trump is anti war, 363 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: Trump doesn't like war. Trump is trying to end wars. 364 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: And I know we've gotten into a different area than 365 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: what we first started talking about. 366 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 5: But that's just my point. 367 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: Like Trump is not going to put boots on the 368 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: ground in Venezuela. 369 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 3: Right, I'm with you. 370 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 2: I just I mean he's making president. Yeah, i'mist you're 371 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 2: trying to bring drugs on a boat and he will 372 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 2: low your. 373 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 3: Ass to hell. 374 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: And I know he dropped a Bomber two in Iran. 375 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: But those that got those guys in line pretty quick 376 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 1: find him is Nigel. That's Jason Hammer, known as the 377 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: Hammer and Nigel Show Hammer. We have a very special 378 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: in studio guest. 379 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 3: He is the traffic Beast. 380 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 2: Matt Bear joins us and Matt normally right out of 381 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 2: the gate, we like to have fun. 382 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 3: We'd like to talk about stupid stuff. We'd like to 383 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 3: talk about your love life. We'd like to talk about 384 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 3: all the. 385 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: Things that you do that we live vicariously through you on. 386 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 2: But all week I've been looking forward to this conversation. 387 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 2: And this takes us into the murder of Rob Reiner 388 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 2: and his wife. Their son, Nick Reiner, is being charged 389 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 2: with the murders. 390 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 3: Now. 391 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 2: Nick Reiners had a history of substance abuse, mental illness. 392 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 5: Long rap sheet long in. 393 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 2: And out of rehab eighteen times. In front of our show. 394 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 2: Bearnson put this out on Twitter, quote eighteen rehabs. Maybe 395 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 2: what Nick Reiner really needed was one night in jail. Instead, 396 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: he's going to spend the rest of his life in prison. 397 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 2: Coddling addicts only prolongs their misery and the misery they cause. 398 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 2: Matt as somebody who has been through rehab for alcohol, 399 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 2: take me through your thoughts on that. 400 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 9: You know, I got a DWI when I was in 401 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 9: my early twenties, and before that, I had been busted 402 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 9: with an infraction of the law with possession of marijuana 403 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 9: pipe actually wasn't the actual weed. And then later in 404 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 9: my early twenties, I got to SOWI I drank, you know, 405 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 9: a large amount of Jack Daniels, and I drove through 406 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 9: a string of mailboxes in Fulton County, Indiana, to the 407 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 9: north of Indianapolis, and I always thought to myself, and 408 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 9: I was thinking at the time that night in the 409 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 9: drunk tech, I'm like, you know, man, you know, I'm 410 00:21:58,920 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 9: sobering up and. 411 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 6: I feel I'm shameful. 412 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 9: I'm so glad that line of mailbox says, wasn't a 413 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,239 Speaker 9: line of kids, you know, it was nine or ten 414 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 9: at night. 415 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 6: But these are the thoughts you're thinking. 416 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 5: And were you thinking to yourself never drinking again. 417 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 9: Now I'm thinking to myself, I'm never going to drink again. 418 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 9: I'm especially not going to drink and drive again. That 419 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 9: is never ever going to happen. I mean, this is 420 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 9: the drunk tag. This is your It's not even a 421 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 9: cod It's just like a really two inch thin mattress 422 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 9: that you're laying on and you feel miserable because, uh, 423 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 9: you're gonna have to face your loved ones. You're gonna 424 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 9: have to face the people, and they're gonna be like, 425 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 9: how we're responsible of you to drink, Jack Daniels and 426 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 9: then go drive a car, and you're gonna be like, 427 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 9: I know, I got drunk that night after you got out. Yeah, 428 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 9: after I got out. Oh wow, And I got drunk 429 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 9: that night. Now part of my play deal for this, 430 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 9: because I had some baggage with me. You know, you start, 431 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 9: I go low. It's the art of the deal. Except 432 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 9: with the law with crime, and I made a play deal. 433 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 9: They said you either get like an over amount of 434 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 9: community service hours or you go to jail for a weekend. 435 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 9: So I chose to go to jail for a weekend. Okay, 436 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 9: all right, and this was on New Year I slept 437 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 9: on the floor, you know. But it was just a weekend, guys. 438 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, in a weekend, and then after that 439 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: you're allowed to drink again. 440 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 9: They were allowed to drink again, except in my case, 441 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 9: I was getting drug tested, okay every single month. Alcohol 442 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 9: doesn't stay in the system as marijuana. Marijuana, now my thing. 443 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 9: Got smoking marijuana. Obviously I got caught with it, but 444 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 9: it was never my thing. It made me paranoid. I 445 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 9: still did a lot of it just because it was there. 446 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 9: I do the weekend in jail, and I get out 447 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 9: and there's snow on the ground. I came in a 448 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 9: New Year's Day, is when I had to report. It 449 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 9: was the craziest thing. And I get out of jail, 450 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 9: and I feel like a million bucks. I got drunk 451 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 9: that night. 452 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: Oh you felt Wait, you got out of jail, but 453 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: yet you felt like a million bucks where you just 454 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: elated to be out of jail. Related to be out 455 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: of jail, oh yes, okay, and physically feel because he 456 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: hadn't had to drink in two days, absolutely absolutely okay, And. 457 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 2: There wasn't any feeling of should I do this? Any 458 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 2: remorse for why you were in jail to begin with? 459 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 9: There was remorse. There very much was the remorse and 460 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 9: shame after doing something like that. My feelings of the 461 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 9: calamity I actually could have caused were sincere. They really were. 462 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 9: I'm in my early twenties. I'm going to have a 463 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 9: drink that night. That is my culture, That's what I 464 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 9: want to do. And at the time I didn't know 465 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 9: I was an alcalolic. I laughed at such a notion, 466 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 9: but I was already an alcolic. 467 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I touch it. Yeah. 468 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 9: My point being, when it comes to jail is a deterrent, 469 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 9: I don't believe it works just because it is up 470 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 9: to us. And in the case of Nick Reiner, we 471 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 9: find out he was diagnosed with schizophrenia before the murders. 472 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 5: And I mean, it could have been a drug mix up. 473 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 6: It could have been bad script is what they're saying. 474 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: It was. On another level, this isn't just it wasn't 475 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: just some you know, random thing that happened at once. 476 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 9: Don't get me wrong, This is I understand the other 477 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 9: perspective from me, Jail is not a deterrent. If I'm 478 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 9: going to go steal something so I can go get 479 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 9: codeine or I say you can get oxy cotton. Well 480 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 9: you better have your stuff nailed to the ground, right, 481 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 9: I'm gonna get that money. I'm gonna get to that 482 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 9: pawn job. I'm gonna make my money and I'm going 483 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 9: to go get high. 484 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,959 Speaker 2: I think the key number here, though, Matt is eighteen 485 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 2: eighteen times this guy went to rehab, Like, at what 486 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 2: point do you say, Okay, this isn't working. And does 487 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 2: the type of rehab facility matter? Because let's be honest, 488 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 2: the type of rehab facility that the Sun of Hollywood 489 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 2: Royalty goes to is probably the best hotel that any 490 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 2: one of us have ever stayed in. 491 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 5: And they make a lot of money. 492 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 1: They need customers, which maybe maybe they need repeat customers right, 493 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: and maybe some of it's designed that way. 494 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 5: I don't know. 495 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 6: A business is a business. 496 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,479 Speaker 9: I'm a capitalist too, but that's exactly what it is, 497 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 9: and the rehabilitation business. I reached out to my friend 498 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 9: at Harbor Light, she's a manager over at Harbor Light, 499 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 9: and I said, what is it kind of costs? You know, 500 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 9: Harbor Light's over on TIB's Avenue here in Indianapolis. They 501 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 9: do the detox, the residency, post residency, just everything you 502 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 9: need mental health is at Harbor Light with the Salvation 503 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 9: Army on Tibbs. 504 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 6: And I was talking to her and I said, Okay, 505 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 6: tell me give me a ballpark. 506 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 9: If I go to Harbor Light to add say, in 507 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,959 Speaker 9: the extended care program where you're actually moving to some 508 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 9: of their housing afterwards, what is that a month? She said, 509 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 9: five hundred. I go to Malibu over in California. How 510 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 9: much is that? 511 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 6: She said? Hundreds of thousands of yees. Yeah, and in 512 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 6: Malibu is just an example. 513 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 9: Okay, if I'm a sponsor and I'm talking to a 514 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 9: sponseee somebody that I want to get better, I want 515 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 9: to help them with the disease of addiction, and they 516 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 9: start telling me, asking me how the food is and 517 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 9: whatever rehab facility they're going to go to, I'm not 518 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 9: going to want to hear that, right. 519 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 6: I don't want to hear about if you're canoeing or 520 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 6: playing frisbee golf. I want you to say I'm ready. 521 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 6: I want you to say those magic words. I want 522 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 6: you to be ready for recovery. 523 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,479 Speaker 9: And I don't give a damn if you can throw 524 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 9: a whiffle ball at the rehab center. 525 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 2: Because with Alex Berenson's comments, like the number was the 526 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 2: thing that stood out to me because I'm a guy, 527 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 2: and I relate this to other things in my life. 528 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 2: If something habitually is not working, it's time to try 529 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 2: something different. 530 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 3: Right. 531 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 2: If I keep betting on the Chicago Cubs and they 532 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 2: keep losing, maybe I should try betting on somebody else. 533 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 3: But what else is there? 534 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 6: It's a good question. Can put them back in jail? 535 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 6: But jail there's drugs, a lot of but I've heard 536 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 6: there's a lot of. Yeah. 537 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 9: Remember back in September and Marion County jailer got busted 538 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 9: because he was smuggling and weed and smuggling in the box. 539 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 6: Said he got clicked down in Maria's County. Question was just. 540 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 5: Rehab. There's nothing else. I mean, you have to want 541 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 5: to get better. 542 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 3: I guess could anything have helped Nick? 543 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 5: Anything? 544 00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 3: I mean, I know you didn't know. 545 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 6: It never met the no. No, No, it's a totally fair question. 546 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 6: I love the question. Nick. 547 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 9: It sounds like was a really disturbed individual. This just 548 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 9: sounds like, I mean, you know, I'm not obviously like 549 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 9: we just mentioned I'm not a doctor, medical professional, but 550 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 9: he sounds like a really disturbed individual. 551 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 6: Eighteen times in rehab. 552 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 9: That tells me when I was in rehab, man, I 553 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 9: wanted to get out of rehab. Now, I loved my 554 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 9: rehab experiences, I did, but I really wanted to get better. 555 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 9: I kept making that decision over and over again. I'm ready, Yeah, 556 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 9: I want to get better. I want that sober life, 557 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 9: and then go drink again because I'm a freaking alcoholic. 558 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 5: How many times, man. 559 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 9: I detoxed over a half dozen times? Medically professional, you 560 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 9: always detok professionally. That's just something that I always say, 561 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 9: I really believe in that. But I did it from 562 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 9: home to a couple of times too, so you got 563 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 9: to count that. With Nick Reiner there, it sounds like 564 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 9: there are just mental issues, and it's what we talk 565 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 9: about and recover. If you have the bill, if you 566 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 9: have the ability, you have enough left in you to 567 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 9: be able to say I'm ready to be able to 568 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 9: accept the sober life and go and do it. That's 569 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 9: what you have to do. So you can send me 570 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 9: to rehab eighteen times. You can send me to jail 571 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 9: for a week in six months, six years until I 572 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 9: say I want to be sober, It's just not going 573 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,959 Speaker 9: to happen. And that's why I don't believe jails a deterred. 574 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 9: When it comes to recovery. The addict is still going 575 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 9: to be the addict. The alcoholic me is still going 576 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 9: to be the alcoholic and the God of your understanding, 577 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 9: and a recovery group at New Brothers and Sisters is 578 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 9: the only way to stay sober. 579 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 2: In my opinion, your honesty and your courage to come 580 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 2: in here does not go unnoticed. Like the amount of 581 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 2: comments on our YouTube show Man, from Craig to Jim 582 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 2: to Timothy to Vic to Chris, all singing your praises 583 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 2: about having the cajones to come in here and talk 584 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 2: about these things. You really do resonate with so many people. 585 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 3: And I hope you know that well. 586 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 6: I appreciate you guys saying so. 587 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 9: And I didn't get here or by myself or by 588 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 9: any good decision I've ever made in my life. 589 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: Oh, I mean by the way I think if you're 590 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: allowed to have your vate pen in the studio, I 591 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: think Hamer and I should have at least allowed to 592 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: have beer sample Friday. And this is from Asthma just 593 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: a couple of minutes left here. I'm wondering what you 594 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: think about, Like you can get people all the rehab 595 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: in the world, but like you're mentally ill, you can't. 596 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: Like if you have dementia, a doctor is legally obligated 597 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: to help you, but you can't arrest somebody. You can't 598 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: be legally forced to get mental help. And I'm wondering 599 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: what you think about asylums and things like that. Man, 600 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about Central State. That's something that 601 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: was effed up, man, you know, but something. 602 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 2: Else, Nick Reiner, like no rehab facility or even jail 603 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 2: stay was probably going to help that guy. He needed 604 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 2: mental help, but you can't force him to go to 605 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 2: one of these places. 606 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 9: Your thoughts, So the question being you can say in 607 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 9: this case is there could have put his name on 608 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 9: a dotted line and committed him involuntarily. 609 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 6: Yes, Nick Reiner, Okay, Oh, It's it's a tough one 610 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 6: for me because. 611 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 9: I believe individual freedom and I want and I sure 612 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 9: as he'll know if people want to institutionalize me a 613 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 9: couple of times maybe, And it's a hard one say 614 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 9: he moved that to the alcohologan atic can you put 615 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 9: the alcohologan addict in in an institution or rehab with 616 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 9: without their will, without wanting to do that. 617 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 6: And again it. 618 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 9: Comes down to it's up to us and we have 619 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 9: to make that decision. If somebody's mentally ill, you want 620 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 9: them to get the best help they possibly can. And 621 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 9: if they're not cognitive, if they can't make that kind 622 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 9: of decision, then maybe we do need to make it 623 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 9: for them. 624 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 6: But it's such a it's such an individual balance here. 625 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 6: It just depends on the individual. 626 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 9: Again, we have to have the capacity to be capacity 627 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 9: to be the ones that say, I'm ready to make 628 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 9: that decision for ourselves, and you can't make that decision 629 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 9: for yourself. It's just it's a tragic and heartbreaking situation 630 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 9: that they're not able to do that real quick. 631 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 3: Where can we find the podcast? 632 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 6: It's supporting Sobriety podcast. 633 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 9: My partner morning ganchor Right Hendrick and I do a 634 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 9: podcast being Recovering Addicts and Me and Alcoholic. We do 635 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 9: it for the caregiver of the people we tormented. You 636 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 9: can find it on any major podcast provider. We'd love 637 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 9: to have you taping again this weekend. 638 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 6: Blessed to do so. 639 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 3: Matt, Merry Christmas to you, to your family. God bless you, buddy. 640 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 6: Merry Christmas. 641 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 9: Thank you for letting me on your number one Ready 642 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 9: radio show, all three of you, all year long. 643 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 6: I'm so blessed. Thank you. 644 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 3: Nie. 645 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 2: According to a new survey, forty four percent of all 646 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 2: of us will be asleep before midnight on New Year's Eve? 647 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 2: Are you part of that forty four percent? I'll let 648 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 2: you answer that question. You're going to be asleep before 649 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 2: ten o'clock. Like making it to midnight feels like a 650 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 2: pipe dream because you're in a group text with like myself. 651 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 3: And Rob and a few other people. 652 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like we'll send something out and we'll talk about you. 653 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 2: I'll still be up, like at twelve thirty. You know, 654 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 2: I'm sitting in bed, you know whatever, I'm on my phone. 655 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 2: You'll text back, I just woke up and saw this, 656 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 2: Like what time did you. 657 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 3: Go to sleep? 658 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 7: Cheez. 659 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: Sometimes I need like at three o'clock in the morning, 660 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: Like I'll use my iPhone to find my way to 661 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: the bathroom to take a leak and see the text 662 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: and like hit like at like three point thirty in 663 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:43,719 Speaker 1: the morning. 664 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 3: Correct. Sometimes it's at twelve thirty like it the other night. 665 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 3: I just woke up. It's twelve thirty. 666 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 5: I haven't gone to bed yet. What time did you 667 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 5: go to sleep? So a lot of people are making 668 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 5: there out to midnight. I've done it a couple of 669 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 5: times this year New Year's. 670 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 3: He playing man. Huh, go ahead. 671 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: New Year's Eve plans I have. It's my son's birthday, 672 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: fourteenth birthday. 673 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, since we're speaking of birthdays here, shout out 674 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 2: to Jacob Hammer eighteen today. 675 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 5: Nige, dude, I. 676 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 3: Don't have any more kids. 677 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 5: Even in my house, you have adults. 678 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 6: Everybody in my brood is adults. 679 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 5: Now is so wild for me. 680 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: I could imagine what it's like for you in Crystal, 681 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: But for me when I met you, those guys were 682 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 1: little ankle biters. 683 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 6: Right. 684 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: Both of your kids and now your oldest is going 685 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: to be is a junior, is a junior in college 686 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: right now. See, I mean, I know you feel old, 687 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: but that just that makes me feel ottle too. You 688 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: realize that, right? 689 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 2: And it coincides with his last day of high school today, 690 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 2: So he's graduating early. He's going to be enrolling in 691 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 2: the University of Indianapolis with. 692 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 5: His brother next year, Oh, Jacob. 693 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 2: So yeah, the final day of school is this eighteenth birthday. 694 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 2: And I got cats in the craye going on over here. Man, 695 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 2: I bet no more kiddos I've been in my house. 696 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 5: Wow. 697 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 4: Uh. 698 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 2: So we'll have a little party tonight, but we'll also 699 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 2: have a little party on New Year's Eve. So we 700 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 2: always have the fireworks for midnight at New Year's Eve. 701 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 2: That's kind of what we do. Great moments in New 702 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,879 Speaker 2: Year's Eve history. Remember a couple of years ago when 703 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 2: President Trump called into our show to talk about his 704 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 2: New Year's Eve plans. 705 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 3: Hello, this is. 706 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,760 Speaker 10: President Donald Trump, and I'm having the greatest holiday season 707 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 10: of all time. 708 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 5: I really have. 709 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 10: But I still haven't made up my mind what I'm 710 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 10: going to be doing for New Year's I have a 711 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 10: couple of different ideas. I thought, I might just have 712 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 10: a quiet evening with Milania and we go out to dinner, 713 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,959 Speaker 10: and then I probably try to figure out the time 714 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 10: difference in China, do a little sexty with the President 715 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 10: of Taiwan, and then just call it tonight. But you 716 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 10: know what, I do that all the time, and this 717 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 10: is such a big night. And then my son Baron 718 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 10: came up with the fantastic idea where we could have 719 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 10: Chris Christie dressed as the baby New Year on the 720 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 10: roof of Trump Tower. He'll be in a giant diaper, 721 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 10: lit up with all kinds of lights, and we'd lower 722 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 10: him down on the window washer scaffolding right before midnight. 723 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 10: The safety artist can hold a baby elephants, so he 724 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 10: would be absolutely fine. 725 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 3: And I love that idea, but I need to go bigger. 726 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 10: So I've decided I'm going to do something truly spectacular. 727 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 10: I'm going to have a team of scientists reanimate the 728 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 10: cryogenically frozen corpse of Dick Clark for a few seconds 729 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 10: at the stroke of midnight. He's gonna pop right out 730 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 10: of that crystal ball in Times Square Zombie Dick. 731 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 3: It's gonna be unbelievable. 732 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 10: And then we're gonna have him climb out and eat 733 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,280 Speaker 10: the brains of Ryan Seacrest. 734 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 3: You're not gonna win to miss this, believe me. It's 735 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:40,919 Speaker 3: the Hammer and Nigel Show.