Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to a new episode of the France per
Speaker 1: Second Podcast.
Speaker 2: My name is Kenneth ban Is joining on the show,
Speaker 2: Rod Spike and Mike what else. Uh.
Speaker 3: Today we are reviewing highest to Lowest, a new Spike one,
Speaker 3: A Spike Spike one, Spike Lee.
Speaker 2: And Dinzel Washington.
Speaker 3: Now, apparently, uh, are you gonna call I have been,
Speaker 3: I have been calling him somebody, everybody.
Speaker 2: Gonna call him, calling that man Denzel because party he's bullshit.
Speaker 2: I believe the store. It doesn't make any sense though
Speaker 2: that he's a junior and oh that part sure, But like,
Speaker 2: why now? Why now?
Speaker 4: Because I just watched him do an inner you with
Speaker 4: Spike Lee and Asap Rocky and he was talking about,
Speaker 4: you know, Denzel's a great name and name great name
Speaker 4: and name your child out there all laughing.
Speaker 2: You didn't say Denzel. You said Denzel because he'll always
Speaker 2: been Denzel, right, So I don't know. It just seems weird.
Speaker 3: It is really weird, Like apparently, wife, he's he's mentioned
Speaker 3: this before, So why didn't just make it seem like
Speaker 3: it was this revelation, like, well, this thing he just revealed.
Speaker 2: I thought it was a big reveal until she said that.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, but it probably just gotten lost
Speaker 1: over the years that nobody just ever knew. Possibly for
Speaker 1: the most part, he is Denzel, yes, you know if
Speaker 1: you really think about, Like the story for those that
Speaker 1: are listening is that he's a junior and whenever his
Speaker 1: mom would call Denzel, both would show up, and that's
Speaker 1: why she just was like, Okay, you're Denzel meaning the dad,
Speaker 1: and no, you're Denzel meaning the dad and the junior
Speaker 1: Denzel is I'm gonna call you Denzel.
Speaker 3: Oh so okay, So it's mama called him. His mama
Speaker 3: called him, his mama call himel right, yeah, so it's
Speaker 3: not like in other words. So when I heard that,
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, so we haven't been getting it wrong. No, no,
Speaker 3: you know that is his names.
Speaker 2: So yeah, what the mother fucking name of Denzel? So
Speaker 2: I thought that was interesting. But okay, so now that
Speaker 2: makes more sense. It made a lot of sense. That
Speaker 2: makes more Okay, it's mama name of class. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: call him class right, right, right? Right? What's that? Come on? Man?
Speaker 2: He knew That's why he knew what I was saying.
Speaker 3: Just now okay, but but yeah, man, so you know
Speaker 3: they partnered up.
Speaker 2: I think this is their fifth movie together, yep, to
Speaker 2: do the movie that was put out in joint couple
Speaker 2: of collaboration with A twenty four and Apple TV. I
Speaker 2: did not know this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know that either until I started watching it.
Speaker 3: So they like the kind was made A twenty four
Speaker 3: ish in my opinion, where I just thought it looked
Speaker 3: like it the way that made I just started looks simple.
Speaker 2: The four stuff that I seen they have mass mass releases,
Speaker 2: well just just a the look. It looked like, what's
Speaker 2: the one with.
Speaker 3: They did what the world was ending and they was
Speaker 3: doing the military stuff quarters.
Speaker 2: In the Civil War that it looked like they had
Speaker 2: the same look to me. And did they do the
Speaker 2: one with? Adam said, yeah, you looked like that too,
Speaker 2: mm hmm. But you know they don't technically do the film,
Speaker 2: They just just yeah.
Speaker 3: Anyway, uh nah, I saw Spike Lee all through this movie, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Okay, that's that's why I question. I was like, nah,
Speaker 2: it's is that all.
Speaker 1: Spike Lee's normal shit, isn't it? But anyway, so let's
Speaker 1: talk about the movie. Man, Spike, what did you think
Speaker 1: about the movie? You said, sing Spike Lee all in
Speaker 1: this I loved the story.
Speaker 3: I thought it was a good story, but watching it,
Speaker 3: it made me wonder with Spike Lee's style of telling
Speaker 3: the story to dated, like one of the really one
Speaker 3: of the most annoying things in this movie to me
Speaker 3: was that music. And I know it's traditionally his style,
Speaker 3: him playing music in the back.
Speaker 2: Of like scenes.
Speaker 3: I just irritated it never let me get fully engaged
Speaker 3: in the movie because I'm like, why are you playing
Speaker 3: that dumb ass music in the background. But with that
Speaker 3: being said, I think Jeffery Wright did a good job.
Speaker 3: I think Denzel did a good job. I liked the
Speaker 3: casting r Wife. I think the story was great. What
Speaker 3: didn't work for me was just a Spike Lee style
Speaker 3: of telling the story. And I know it's always been
Speaker 3: like it, but I'm just not sure it can be
Speaker 3: like that in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: The wife was awful to me. She plays well.
Speaker 3: I guess I've gotten used to it because she plays
Speaker 3: the exact same role in Godfather Harlem. I mean, like
Speaker 3: he probably seen that TV show. I was like, Oh,
Speaker 3: come do that over here, because she plays the exact
Speaker 3: same role. Like she she Bumpy Johnson's wife and she
Speaker 3: acts just like that. She's got the same privileges married
Speaker 3: to a rich dude, like she she feel like she
Speaker 3: got those privileges in Hollywood and look at but yeah,
Speaker 3: she acted just like she acted in Godfather Harlem.
Speaker 2: So but overall it was it was okay. I just
Speaker 2: wish if the story had been told. But right, what.
Speaker 3: The black films like this, Mike, you can need them
Speaker 3: all day. I ain't gotta watch no more of them.
Speaker 3: This was terrible.
Speaker 2: This was man. I love Spike Lee and I.
Speaker 4: Will never disrespect, but he needs to stop remaking movies,
Speaker 4: especially ones that are already highly acclaimed classic films.
Speaker 2: Stop. This was awful.
Speaker 3: Off full having to watch it, I didn't notice was
Speaker 3: a remake.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's a remake of a great movie, just like
Speaker 4: he did with Old Boy.
Speaker 2: I don't know why he keeps telling this. I really don't.
Speaker 4: And I'm not even necessarily all the way against remaking films,
Speaker 4: but I think Spike needs to do a better job
Speaker 4: of which.
Speaker 2: Films he's gonna remake.
Speaker 4: Remake ones that are bad, not bad, but like pick
Speaker 4: the worst film in somebody's you know, career, and be like, Okay,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna improve on that nothing about this film.
Speaker 2: Improved up on the original. It was terrible.
Speaker 4: The acting was not great, the dialogue was was was choppy,
Speaker 4: the just it was just bad.
Speaker 2: Y'all. I'm sorry. It's bad. It's bad. And Spike Lee
Speaker 2: can do better than this. So you think Spike Lee
Speaker 2: can do better than this? I feel like you can't. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, what was the last Spike joint? Oh? Boy,
Speaker 2: wasn't it?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: It was the Brothers movie? That was that? His five whatever,
Speaker 2: the warr movie.
Speaker 3: It was pretty good. It was on Netflix. We liked
Speaker 3: it because it had because what was that his movie?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Okay, well take that back. Did you
Speaker 2: like this one? No? I did not?
Speaker 3: Okay, no, no, no, No, five Bloods the horror movie?
Speaker 2: Was that his movie? Yeah? Okay, no, we're saying that
Speaker 2: it was. It was pretty good. We liked the performances
Speaker 2: in it because it had what I.
Speaker 4: Thought when said it was a horror movie. I was
Speaker 4: trying to think it went last time, Spike Lee's a
Speaker 4: horror movie.
Speaker 2: This one. I was watch man, I was, I was.
Speaker 3: I was really disappointed by this and and and and
Speaker 3: like I had an idea because I did see like
Speaker 3: part of a preview or something.
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know about that one, and
Speaker 2: yeah I was. I was right. No, this wasn't it. Bro.
Speaker 3: It was just so many things that was like bad
Speaker 3: about this. It's the wife man single handedly this. Oh
Speaker 3: my god, I didn't think she was.
Speaker 2: That she was bad. I mean, I don't just got kicknapped.
Speaker 2: She's like, I didn't see one tear. Your son just
Speaker 2: got kidnapped? Yeah, bro, man this man?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it almost it almost made denzil and and and
Speaker 3: Jeffrey Right looked bad.
Speaker 2: Oh, it made Jeffrey Right look terrible. No, really, bro.
Speaker 4: Every time they cursed and they spoke black, and it
Speaker 4: sounded like some one hamphistically wrote black dialogue for a
Speaker 4: white person.
Speaker 3: I asked my wife after this, I said, was this
Speaker 3: too too black?
Speaker 2: And it just it was it just and she's saying something.
Speaker 1: About just forgot what she word she used with something
Speaker 1: about culture forward. So you know, but it did feel
Speaker 1: like I'm like, oh man, this is like you really
Speaker 1: just kind of forcing this this down.
Speaker 2: You know, It's just like it was my wife dead.
Speaker 2: What it was a lot. It was a lot, and
Speaker 2: Spike is always black with his movies.
Speaker 3: But it was just like, I don't know, this is
Speaker 3: one just felt weird. It was it was an off
Speaker 3: putting feeling too. It was like like it was really
Speaker 3: wrong stretches. It was just like, bro, what what is happening?
Speaker 3: And why? I was like, is this supposed to be
Speaker 3: a dream sequence? Why is he doing that? That was
Speaker 3: so classing my eye? Get that? Only what is this?
Speaker 2: Oh my god man? This was depressed.
Speaker 3: So it's the same story, basically, it's the same story.
Speaker 2: So here's the thing.
Speaker 4: The story is very basic, yes, but it's Curisala's.
Speaker 3: Like film style that made it interesting. Like I don't
Speaker 3: know if you would like it?
Speaker 2: Do you do? You not do subtitle movies either? Really,
Speaker 2: then you probably wouldn't dig it.
Speaker 4: But it's it's a very stylistic film, and I don't
Speaker 4: want to compare it all the way, but like, I'll
Speaker 4: just get this one piece out.
Speaker 2: The first hour of the og.
Speaker 4: Is in the dude's living room when they're finding out
Speaker 4: that his son was kidnapped and what's happening, And the
Speaker 4: whole time you're fascinated because Curis Have you has anybody
Speaker 4: seen any Curisy films?
Speaker 3: I know you haven't because he's it's all subtitled obviously. Well,
Speaker 3: I've watched some like Motorcycle Diaries and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: I've seen, like, it's not like I'm just.
Speaker 4: Anti well at any rate, he has this incredible way
Speaker 4: of filming. And if you watch, even if you just
Speaker 4: watch the first thirty minutes of the original, you'll see
Speaker 4: him talking about like he will have people that are
Speaker 4: talking and saying really important things, but they'll be in
Speaker 4: the back right hand, and there'll be other people that
Speaker 4: are just not doing anything in the foreground. So it
Speaker 4: keeps you being like, Okay, what's going on, and it
Speaker 4: keeps you your eyes moving.
Speaker 2: But it's a really interesting way that he does this.
Speaker 2: What's his problem movies? Really quickly?
Speaker 4: What's He's mostly known for samurai films, so ten Samurai
Speaker 4: Something Forrest, which is the one that inspired Star Wars.
Speaker 4: I think it's called Hidden Forest. But he's mostly known
Speaker 4: for samurai films. This was like a crime drama that
Speaker 4: he did, which is why I thought it was weird
Speaker 4: that Spike Lee was going to remake this. But if
Speaker 4: you look at his last two remakes, they've been asked.
Speaker 2: He redid Old Boy.
Speaker 4: For no fucking reason, and it was trash. He redid
Speaker 4: Ganja and hass As the Sweet Blood of Jesus, and
Speaker 4: it was asked stop remaking films. He's such an amazing filmmaker.
Speaker 4: Why are you tackling classic it? He's better with original
Speaker 4: ideas this. I think he could have done this so
Speaker 4: much better because the idea of taking this story and
Speaker 4: making it black in New York was so interesting.
Speaker 2: But the movie was not. Who was too New York too?
Speaker 2: Like the subway ship was? That was terrible. Oh, I
Speaker 2: fucked with the subway shit heavy. That was the best
Speaker 2: part of the whole fucking movie. Huh. They were chanting?
Speaker 2: That was you know that. She was amazing. I thought,
Speaker 2: who is the guy? Who was? What? Guy?
Speaker 3: The main guy that was like chanting, He's like the
Speaker 3: leader of the chant He seemed familiar.
Speaker 2: Well, you're talking about the one that was playing the music.
Speaker 2: Guy that was like whatever, Yeah, I've seen him somewhere else, Anthony.
Speaker 3: No, it was a white dude, white guy. You've probably
Speaker 3: seen him as a Yankees fan. If I'm not mistake
Speaker 3: that guy. He on the he's thank you for being
Speaker 3: a fan. Okay, Yeah, I know I've seen him before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I watched it with the missus
Speaker 1: and she didn't like twenty minutes and she was like yeah,
Speaker 1: she told me after We was always like yeah, like
Speaker 1: when it was all like what the fuck did I
Speaker 1: just watch?
Speaker 2: Like what is name? You just feel like that? Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 1: It was really weird and it almost felt like there
Speaker 1: were like he was trying to have two comers, two coms.
Speaker 1: It was almost like it was about generations to a
Speaker 1: certain degree. You know, this whole AI thing was in
Speaker 1: it heavy. Uh, phones were in it heavy in the
Speaker 1: beginning of the movies having a conversation with this Entrey
Speaker 1: about phones and putting the phone down and you're always
Speaker 1: in your phone and blah blah blah blah blah. And
Speaker 1: then he said, put your phone down. I'm serious and
Speaker 1: then he's by the hand of David or something whatever
Speaker 1: that was strike down on the.
Speaker 2: Trying to biblical this movie really m M.
Speaker 3: And he was having a conversation too about I felt
Speaker 3: like like more affluent black people to Jeffrey Wright's character
Speaker 3: because we asked him, you had the money when it
Speaker 3: was your child, but it's my child, you ain't got
Speaker 3: the money. Yeah, Yeah, that could have been a really
Speaker 3: interesting down They didn't that's.
Speaker 2: How they really dug deep into that idea.
Speaker 3: That was the main I feel like could have been
Speaker 3: the main Like that's what I thought it was going
Speaker 3: to be, because you know, Rick Fox was in he
Speaker 3: was playing himself apparently.
Speaker 1: So we get introduced to all of them, Trade Cole,
Speaker 1: Rick Fox, the coach, the wife, David King, he's selling
Speaker 1: his business, stacking his records, and he drops his kid off.
Speaker 1: Then we meet Jeffrey Wright who's driving the car, who's
Speaker 1: was in jail apparently for something. And we meet Patrick,
Speaker 1: who was his business partner with stacking his records.
Speaker 2: And then he said to Patrick.
Speaker 3: That he wants to buy his controlling interests by his
Speaker 3: shares so he can just assume control of the label
Speaker 3: and not stell sell to straight out records or something.
Speaker 2: Like that, and and all that happens.
Speaker 3: Then he goes talks to the wife and tells her
Speaker 3: and blah blah blah blah blah. Uh.
Speaker 2: So all that's in the beginning of the movie.
Speaker 1: Anything in particular about the way they set this up
Speaker 1: were just kind of Patrick, Hm, did you all reckonize Patrick?
Speaker 1: The voice sounded familiar, but dude.
Speaker 3: He was his part brother moves.
Speaker 4: You can spot him by his nose. Nobody got of knows,
Speaker 4: Like he was like, yes he can spell coff.
Speaker 3: Yes, just what But this goes to Spike Lee because
Speaker 3: Spike Lee's directing the that's the part that's surprising.
Speaker 2: But I wasn't.
Speaker 3: I was just saying I feel like Denzel probably was
Speaker 3: adding some shit he had he had to it.
Speaker 2: I don't think they had a solid script.
Speaker 3: You think he directed, like do that ship with the
Speaker 3: My thing is, even if he didn't direct him to
Speaker 3: do that as a director, wouldn't you be like, nah,
Speaker 3: I doesn't look right.
Speaker 2: Don't do it again.
Speaker 4: Without again without that, it was just bad. But no,
Speaker 4: I didn't take ship from the beginning, okay, except that
Speaker 4: he's a family man. And I was like, okay, they're
Speaker 4: making this real black cool, let's see where it goes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love you, love you more things?
Speaker 1: Uh we we We learned that through the conversation with
Speaker 1: the wife. Is that And I think there's another conversation
Speaker 1: in the movie is about like the music business. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and she's saying that he complains about the music business,
Speaker 1: that he doesn't.
Speaker 2: Love it the way he used to.
Speaker 1: So she had that that whole conversation about how the
Speaker 1: music as soulless and it's about tech. But I was wondering,
Speaker 1: I think, to a certain degree, music as when it
Speaker 1: comes to the business, I've always been soulless.
Speaker 2: Well not, I think that's hard work, very I.
Speaker 4: Mean, if he's supposed to be a very Gordy type
Speaker 4: or or or Quincy Jones type. I could see the
Speaker 4: discussion when it comes to tech and being soulless. But
Speaker 4: at no point did I even get the impression that
Speaker 4: he gave a funk about music.
Speaker 3: Us that No, Yeah, yeah, the best ears in the business.
Speaker 2: Show us that. I mean, I know that plays into
Speaker 2: the plot later on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, show me him being enamored by music, show me
Speaker 4: him being in love with music.
Speaker 2: I didn't get that at all.
Speaker 1: We should we we learned, but I think that's part
Speaker 1: of the movie as we move on.
Speaker 2: But we saw that it was the opposite.
Speaker 1: Like his son kept asking him listen to Sula, which
Speaker 1: comes back around you know, hes supposed to have this playlist,
Speaker 1: and you know, I think there was somebody outside performance,
Speaker 1: so there were all these things music related that he
Speaker 1: kept kind of casting aside exactly.
Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, if you want to do that, then
Speaker 4: show me, show me him like we saw Bill Cosby,
Speaker 4: Show me he has a basement of jazz records, show
Speaker 4: me him down there. Just I mean, we got the
Speaker 4: hohld him talking to the fucking pictures on the wall,
Speaker 4: which was corny as because show me him caring about music.
Speaker 2: I didn't get that.
Speaker 3: It was almost like he didn't care about music from
Speaker 3: all the examples that they gave us until closer to
Speaker 3: the end, because he when he walked to the building
Speaker 3: and the lady that you said, did he walk off with?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he walked off. The girl was playing the guitar. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And the editing was so we couldn't tell if he
Speaker 3: walked off or like, because she turned around and he
Speaker 3: was girl.
Speaker 2: I was like, well right, and then she went by
Speaker 2: somewhere else. It was like, bloke out. I don't get it.
Speaker 2: That was transport.
Speaker 3: She went somewhere in his mind, and like, I just
Speaker 3: didn't get there because he like he wanted to listen
Speaker 3: to ye and the just.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to listen to it.
Speaker 3: It seemed like his love was his legacy though in
Speaker 3: business that was at the forefront, because I feel like
Speaker 3: he put that put forward everything, even his friend's son
Speaker 3: at that point, like his legacy and having that business.
Speaker 2: That was his passion. It wasn't music. Like his wife said, Okay,
Speaker 2: maybe I thought they were supposed to. I don't know. Okay,
Speaker 2: you're probably right. Yeah they told us his love with
Speaker 2: the music, but they showed us show yes, yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: But so this happens and she's like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: if you want to really buy it, like you're not
Speaker 1: in love with the music anymore, why are you doing this?
Speaker 1: Which I think she was right the question, But then
Speaker 1: she gets called that he was kiddingapped, her son was
Speaker 1: getting up, trade was getting up.
Speaker 2: I did like that point. I thought he got the call.
Speaker 2: Yeah he got Yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: They were on the balcony and you know, they had
Speaker 3: a moment and then she left. He got the call
Speaker 3: and it didn't say anything, but you assume like, okay,
Speaker 3: what the hell is going on?
Speaker 2: And he came in and said what he said. I
Speaker 2: did like that excuse okay, we're going somewhere. But yeah,
Speaker 2: he said they got trade. They like, wasn't mean they
Speaker 2: got trade?
Speaker 4: Talking about I was with her, I say, did they
Speaker 4: shoot him? I mean got it was like he had warrant, Like,
Speaker 4: what happened? They kidnapped him, They got him, they kidnapped him.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine kidnapped as a seventeen year old.
Speaker 3: Kidnapped by asap Rocky? That it was what I was
Speaker 3: leading to. I ain't never seen nobody on a Rocky team.
Speaker 3: They could have kidnapped me at seventeen years old.
Speaker 2: I don't know about that. You ain't seen his team
Speaker 2: he got I'm talking about the ones in the movie.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, sorry, sorry, I'm talking about the ones he
Speaker 3: had in the movies Got Still the Bad. Yeah, no,
Speaker 3: I'm sucking all them. I'm like, Bro, Ain's Rocky not
Speaker 3: kidnapping me. Bro, Like, no, that's not happening. Really, It's
Speaker 3: like he.
Speaker 2: Was like a king pin. You're a rapper, a struggling rapper. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he didn't even have a job. This, this part could
Speaker 2: have been cool.
Speaker 4: And again, this is one of those things where I
Speaker 4: wish it wouldn't have been called Highest the Lowest. I
Speaker 4: wish he had just made a movie. And then later
Speaker 4: on said he was inspired by High and Low.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, because.
Speaker 4: I'm walking into this film knowing what happens in the original,
Speaker 4: knowing how amazingly that is laid out and done, and
Speaker 4: then I get this and it's like, well, the wife's
Speaker 4: response was so poorly executed that it took me out
Speaker 4: of the film. I was like, Oh, she's involved. I'm
Speaker 4: thinking Spike Lely changed the whole story. I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: she she kidnapped the sun.
Speaker 2: I don't know why.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's because she wants to keep all of Denzel's
Speaker 4: money and doesn't want Denzel to buy this.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but she's involved. I thought it was
Speaker 2: a Jeffrey Rice's character.
Speaker 3: Yeah, talking about the wife's performance. The dude from the
Speaker 3: fucking insurance commercials, Oh yeah, the one that plays his mayhem.
Speaker 2: I thought I've seen him before.
Speaker 3: He wasn't bad commercials something like that, right, Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2: He's better than those it every time. Yeah. The racist
Speaker 2: cop that's not racist. I couldn't figure it out. Was
Speaker 2: he supposed to be racist?
Speaker 3: That's what I thought, because the black guy was more
Speaker 3: of addict than anybody.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. B Yeah, the cops were awful. They
Speaker 2: were terrible, all right.
Speaker 3: And then the one lady that came in, she didn't
Speaker 3: even seem like the head detective, the one that she
Speaker 3: was the head detective.
Speaker 2: She was supposed to be the head detective. I thought
Speaker 2: it was the guy.
Speaker 3: It's like they forgot me and movie that she wasn't infective.
Speaker 2: Oh god, bro, she came in.
Speaker 3: She's just like a regular officer. She had the had
Speaker 3: on She's like, yeah, lead detective. I'm like, but we
Speaker 3: never even saw.
Speaker 2: Her leading any lead anything.
Speaker 3: It was just man only week when she made the
Speaker 3: thing like that to your point when she said why
Speaker 3: he wanted rubles instead of dollars And it wasn't even
Speaker 3: her though.
Speaker 2: That wasn't her. It wasn't even her. I thought it
Speaker 2: was her that figured that part out.
Speaker 3: It was her that figured it out. But she's not
Speaker 3: even the one that says she's the lead detective. It
Speaker 3: was it was some regular officer that said they were
Speaker 3: the lead detective.
Speaker 2: Wait what Wait the one knocked on the door. The
Speaker 2: one that knocked on the door.
Speaker 4: Wait, there was a different female copy it was there.
Speaker 4: One had a ball cap on one.
Speaker 2: You sure wasn't the same black woman? No, it was
Speaker 2: not she. The one woman had on a suit. This
Speaker 2: woman had on police uh uniform.
Speaker 1: Because she came came in, looked around, and then went
Speaker 1: back and brought everybody else.
Speaker 2: Okay, y'all can come in. She was supposed to be
Speaker 2: the lead detect and then she just left. We didn't.
Speaker 3: We saw her off on the side doing some ship.
Speaker 3: It was the weirdest ship bro.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, dude.
Speaker 3: But then these other two come over to the lady
Speaker 3: were talking about and the black guy.
Speaker 2: They seemed like the detectives of the ship, right. No,
Speaker 2: they were saying that the other lady was the lead.
Speaker 2: Why would you even do that?
Speaker 3: I have man, it made no sense when she figured
Speaker 3: that out, and he was like, what school you go to?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but didn't she say something like black Girl? She
Speaker 2: said she went to Spell Blair.
Speaker 4: She said something about black Girl magic And all right, bro,
Speaker 4: y'all trying too hard, y'all really trying to be lighter,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That was interesting. That was really that was That was
Speaker 2: one of the most interesting right now.
Speaker 3: But it felt forced though. It did like it felt forced,
Speaker 3: like I don't know, it's just the execution of these scenes. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I'm which the music didn't help, like, like it
Speaker 3: just seemed like a whole different movie. I know Spike
Speaker 3: Lee has done it, but it's just done it better.
Speaker 2: Than other movies. It just wasn't done well.
Speaker 3: He he didn't, like you said, the performance of it
Speaker 3: didn't take away from it, but like you here.
Speaker 2: It's just like, bro, why is this plain? Well?
Speaker 1: Anyway, we found out that they kidnapped the wrong son,
Speaker 1: and they because of the head band, the Green head Bands,
Speaker 1: and Trey was returned and Kyle was the one that
Speaker 1: was actually kidnapped, and aceaps still on it to seventeen five,
Speaker 1: and then it became all about whether or not Paul
Speaker 1: was gonna or not Paul, but David was gonna pay
Speaker 1: the ransom.
Speaker 4: What a SAP was killing me? I didn't even I
Speaker 4: didn't look at the credits. The second I heard his voice,
Speaker 4: I was like, oh that's a sap.
Speaker 2: Rocky. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: I love you Asap, but you can't act for ship,
Speaker 4: even if you're just on a phone call, you can't.
Speaker 4: I love your music all that you're whatever, but oh
Speaker 4: my god, anything he said, I was like, Bro, this
Speaker 4: sounds like a Toob.
Speaker 2: Movie, Like what the fuck are by watching was presenting?
Speaker 2: Is to be real? Is you ain't? You ain't the
Speaker 2: king Nigga? I'm the King Nikkele. Fuck that Nickel.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, bro, even when he
Speaker 3: returned the sun, I didn't like how they did that
Speaker 3: when he was like, no, I was I'm talking about
Speaker 3: when they returned in me the figure they had the
Speaker 3: room the first at the beginning, yeah, before Yeah, it
Speaker 3: an't take long. Turned quickly ba oh that's right in
Speaker 3: the basement whatever the parking girl y Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: It was weird.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was like, yeah, you'll explain what's going on?
Speaker 3: How did how did they mistakenly had It was just weird?
Speaker 3: How are they acting like this with Jeffrey Wright? Were
Speaker 3: supposed to just ride with it? And how Yeah, like, bro,
Speaker 3: hold on, where is he just said, man, what is
Speaker 3: what is happening?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 3: Didn't even explain it? It was the way the cops
Speaker 3: were acting. It's like Spike Lee was going way overboard
Speaker 3: with showing how awful cops. It was like, Bro, this
Speaker 3: doesn't even.
Speaker 2: Seem normal natural. Nothing about this makes sense.
Speaker 3: And and and Jeffrey Wright is honestly an amazing actor.
Speaker 2: How did y'all make him so bad? It's crazy?
Speaker 4: It's gonna work out in sa And then God, let
Speaker 4: us ask go to punch that dude.
Speaker 2: This whole film? Why are you doing this to him.
Speaker 3: Because that was what the That's what it felt like
Speaker 3: they were trying to that they looked at differently, even
Speaker 3: though I you know, Mayhem was looking at him look differently,
Speaker 3: like do I know you?
Speaker 2: Do you? They look familiar?
Speaker 3: You remember that even the black guy was looking at
Speaker 3: him a little weird.
Speaker 2: To rest this dick. It didn't even sound natural. Jeffright
Speaker 2: is so good? Why being changed? It's like, oh my god.
Speaker 3: They wouldn't let him go make the movie make some
Speaker 3: kind of sense. Spike Lee, why are the cops not
Speaker 3: letting him walk up with Denzel if you.
Speaker 2: Know his own Like what fuck man?
Speaker 4: This didn't seem like a Spike Lee film, did not? Yea,
Speaker 4: this is so subpar for Spike Lee.
Speaker 2: I don't understand.
Speaker 3: I feel like he needed to kind of expand the
Speaker 3: team and get some younger writers that people didn't know.
Speaker 2: It just seemed like he was an old man making
Speaker 2: this movie. That's exactly what period Jason to me, like
Speaker 2: it felt Tyler period. Jason. Yes, I had a feeling.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 4: I thought, is that what he's going for? This felt
Speaker 4: like Straw was like, is that what he's trying to
Speaker 4: go for because Straw had such a big buzzer.
Speaker 3: It was like, I'm too far in my bag and
Speaker 3: Tyler period, like he says, I make movies for certain
Speaker 3: type of people.
Speaker 2: We usually gonna do that. Like even though he has.
Speaker 3: A style and he got a certain bag, it's still
Speaker 3: more palatable than this is. It's like, are you just
Speaker 3: doing like you just spiked me and just wanted to
Speaker 3: do this.
Speaker 2: It's crazy. This was depressing. It was what you gotta
Speaker 2: think about.
Speaker 1: The overall conversation about paying the ransom versus not paying
Speaker 1: the ransom.
Speaker 4: That was yeah, because that was like a really big
Speaker 4: dilemma in the first film. Then the original it's this
Speaker 4: whole dilemma, Okay, do I pay the money even though
Speaker 4: it's not my son? You know, how are the public
Speaker 4: going to treat me? I thought that they were going
Speaker 4: to go further with it, and I was excited. I
Speaker 4: got excited about the movie at that point. I was said, Oh, no,
Speaker 4: that's interesting because on one hand, you do it and
Speaker 4: you get the reception that you have. But like I mentioned,
Speaker 4: I thought the film showed it. He was very concerned
Speaker 4: about his legacy and now I got the money to
Speaker 4: apply this to the legacy like he wanted to. But
Speaker 4: people ain't gonna look at me the same like I
Speaker 4: want them to if I use the money like I want.
Speaker 4: So I thought that was a really interesting conversation. I
Speaker 4: thought his decision making or thought process of it was interesting.
Speaker 4: I just don't think it was executed.
Speaker 1: Well, even though wife was on board or questioning whether
Speaker 1: or not they should do it, which surprised me.
Speaker 4: I would question it too, though you have to question
Speaker 4: it's sure, okay, yes, definitely, and you got to question it.
Speaker 3: And like he said, this is my whole she was like,
Speaker 3: that's all the money we got, right, It's like damn,
Speaker 3: which she was like, I don't know, yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: but the sound was like, you know, it is our fault.
Speaker 3: You know, he's telling paying the money and all that.
Speaker 2: And he looked at him like that was a good
Speaker 2: thing that was on the one of the few killed
Speaker 2: that he had even undred Yeah, man, I've done that,
Speaker 2: like put my heads like yeah, you got you gotta
Speaker 2: run upon him, bro, Yeah, I'm not gonna put my
Speaker 2: hands on make him think you got on exact And
Speaker 2: I gotta learn bigger than right now. You know, I'm
Speaker 2: like ten years. I'm a second right now, right now,
Speaker 2: you might feel like you big. This was like the
Speaker 2: way the scene ended. Oh yeah, yeah, my dad got
Speaker 2: the best is in the business.
Speaker 5: Dramatic, dramatic party fast.
Speaker 2: You're right.
Speaker 6: It was a long Yeah, it was like what what okay, okay,
Speaker 6: I forget yeah right the coldest hot people.
Speaker 3: Laughed out loud about they laughed out. I know y'all
Speaker 3: saw it on Apple, but I went to the theater.
Speaker 4: Man, they laughed out loud when he said that he
Speaker 4: should have came back in there and beat your ass.
Speaker 4: That corny, but he fixing his chart.
Speaker 2: I gotta fix this door. I got door. What what's
Speaker 2: wrong with the door? It was creaking? That was it?
Speaker 2: Get the improvised It couldn't have been he couldn't.
Speaker 3: They wrote that, yeah, because otherwise while they make the
Speaker 3: door creaky.
Speaker 2: They wrote that. I think they wrote him acting and
Speaker 2: heard it like yeah, I think it's just because you're
Speaker 2: not gonna own this scene. I don't get the last
Speaker 2: word funk that. I'm densil what y'all pay the money? Though, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was really thinking about this, bro.
Speaker 3: I was like, I was like, man, I don't know
Speaker 3: what it would have guys seventeen nine millions, man, like
Speaker 3: I ain't doing I'm sorry, but no guarantee you're going
Speaker 3: to get that, especially you already know the cops know
Speaker 3: they can't. They ain't competent that I came in every man,
Speaker 3: So what let's just say you're gonna intend to get
Speaker 3: the money.
Speaker 5: And then Jeffrey Wright was like, you know, I'm good
Speaker 5: Like I like the response, right, talking about I'm not
Speaker 5: gonna get this back, talking about so you can't even
Speaker 5: count that he got less than million something we couldn't
Speaker 5: call it's.
Speaker 3: Crazy to think in wider terms about it. You risking
Speaker 3: your family, stability, your whole life's work for somebody else's child,
Speaker 3: grown ass, damn their child. I don't know if I
Speaker 3: could have brought myself to do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I had, I just gotta look at me crazy.
Speaker 2: If I had thirty four million, h I had a
Speaker 2: little bit more, I could do it.
Speaker 3: But that being I thought that was that was cool
Speaker 3: that they put the emphasis on like it's basically all
Speaker 3: of his money if he did it.
Speaker 2: So that's the part.
Speaker 4: But yeah, you had to look at it like this though,
Speaker 4: like it was his godson. Yeah, it wasn't just like
Speaker 4: it was your son's buddy. It was like, that's your godsons,
Speaker 4: that's basically your kid. Because because they put the exhibition
Speaker 4: somewhere in the movie where they said something like you
Speaker 4: got some great kids and he's like, yeah, two of
Speaker 4: them regular son and.
Speaker 2: God son, And I was like, who says that? Right now?
Speaker 2: We see why they put that because they were going to.
Speaker 4: Go back to it. So I thought that that dilemma
Speaker 4: was actually really interesting. That was something that was different
Speaker 4: from the original, which I'm not going to give men
Speaker 4: spoilers obviously, but there it wasn't a god's son situation.
Speaker 2: It was just my driver's kid.
Speaker 4: So I thought them adding that gave it more of
Speaker 4: an element of well, I see why you're struggling with
Speaker 4: whether or not you should do this.
Speaker 3: Just answer your question like if it was like my
Speaker 3: my my best friend's uh daughter or whatever, like yeah.
Speaker 2: I can't, I can't. I can't live with that, like
Speaker 2: knowing I got the.
Speaker 3: Money to have her release, and even if it was
Speaker 3: all your money, I think so, I think so if
Speaker 3: I'm able to do it for my son, I got
Speaker 3: to be able to do it for for her, he said,
Speaker 3: he said, you know, he's talking to Patrick said, I mean,
Speaker 3: you know how his words nowadays, they'll be going up,
Speaker 3: they'll be talking about something else in the week.
Speaker 2: It was kind of right.
Speaker 4: That was they did a real good job of making
Speaker 4: Denzel look like a piece of ship.
Speaker 2: That's what I was like, Oh, back, he's really in
Speaker 2: a piece of ship.
Speaker 3: He's really trash. Yeah, he ain't even like he didn't
Speaker 3: even care. Bro, Like he was just like nah, he
Speaker 3: said no, he said, ain't even my son. He said
Speaker 3: they made a mistake.
Speaker 2: Was like, all right. It was like, damn, what I
Speaker 2: do is Spike was a tough call to mate. Bro.
Speaker 2: That was don I was about to say that because
Speaker 2: it is that was no way.
Speaker 3: At you said the choir part, We're gonna get out
Speaker 3: bitted by Moto, that's the thing, Like she's going.
Speaker 2: Paid. Immediately came up like hot, that's what he told
Speaker 2: the cop.
Speaker 3: He said, keep negotiating, right, dirty negotiating what my son? Bro.
Speaker 3: I felt then was foul for David King was fouled
Speaker 3: for not doing it.
Speaker 2: So so you would do it? Yeah, you almost have to.
Speaker 3: Okay, I was watching I was like, really, not even
Speaker 3: gonna do this?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy. I was like that. He was like
Speaker 2: fit sing.
Speaker 1: So when he agreed to do it, I was surprised,
Speaker 1: were you guys?
Speaker 2: See I missed something.
Speaker 3: So when he went in the room and was talking
Speaker 3: to Jimmy Hendricks James, which was one of the worst
Speaker 3: I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: That was what do I do? James? What about you?
Speaker 2: What about?
Speaker 3: What the fuck is this?
Speaker 2: I was playing for him the talk back.
Speaker 3: That's why I think, you oh man, because he thinks
Speaker 3: of when if he was talking to the pictures on
Speaker 3: the wall, famous people. Yeah, and then he brought his
Speaker 3: pictures down and had them talking to each other.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what is happening? And he was almost crying
Speaker 2: at the table or at the little dak or whatever
Speaker 2: he was he was. He didn't sell that. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: I thought he was. I thought he was play crying.
Speaker 2: I did. I was like, why is he doing that
Speaker 2: to be a comedic scene? Yeah, I didn't know he
Speaker 2: was real to the cop walk supposed to be real?
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 4: But see when the cops said, just say you're gonna
Speaker 4: do it, I thought he was doing yes, me too,
Speaker 4: me too. I didn't think he was going to mean
Speaker 4: to do it, So.
Speaker 2: I was confused.
Speaker 3: He said say, they say that you're going to do it,
Speaker 3: so they to give us more time. Yes, But then
Speaker 3: they went to him withdrawing the money, right, and I
Speaker 3: was like.
Speaker 2: What this here? Nothing?
Speaker 1: It just said, yeah, well we'll do it. It's go
Speaker 1: ahead and tell him trey. Trey said, we'll pay the money.
Speaker 1: That's when Jeffery.
Speaker 2: Right here on the get on his knees so they
Speaker 2: could plan the sting operation. Hm. Maybe it was so
Speaker 2: they could play the sting operation. Tell him you do it.
Speaker 2: We're playing the sting operation. But that still got it.
Speaker 3: But he's still got the money, US police money to
Speaker 3: do it, right, I want to catch you.
Speaker 2: I thought that's what they did.
Speaker 4: I thought in situations like that, I thought they wouldn't
Speaker 4: use police mark bills.
Speaker 2: I give them mark bills to do.
Speaker 3: That's what every movie that I've seen, right, And it
Speaker 3: ain't a big ass tracker in it. It's like, oh,
Speaker 3: here's the track, like put a small little fucking bug
Speaker 3: in and something like like like you can clearly see
Speaker 3: ther fucking trackers in there. Like this ship was stupid.
Speaker 3: It was real stupid.
Speaker 2: They just the standard spightly shot.
Speaker 1: He was like, okay, so I was gonna go and
Speaker 1: then he did all breakdown.
Speaker 3: It was cool to see that because you're waiting, you're
Speaker 3: waiting for this.
Speaker 2: But they did it to the wrong person. They did
Speaker 2: it to the fucking black cop. Yeah. I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: we don't need to float scene for the black cop.
Speaker 2: We even care about him.
Speaker 3: We don't even like him, we like him at all
Speaker 3: because at least the brother moves on when he came
Speaker 3: in the.
Speaker 2: Room or something. Yeah, yeah, I had some interesting Yeah,
Speaker 2: he would have delivered it better. Yep. Absolutely, because he's
Speaker 2: actually a good actor. Yeah, yeah I did. I don't
Speaker 2: think he was bad, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what did you have to think about?
Speaker 2: The plan?
Speaker 3: They had to actually get the money because one of
Speaker 3: the things that they were saying was they were like
Speaker 3: because I was thinking the same thing too.
Speaker 1: It was like, this guy really can't be that stupid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like to say, just bring the money here and it
Speaker 1: will do this change, Like, you have to have some
Speaker 1: type of plan.
Speaker 3: I thought playing it actually was smart to hit the
Speaker 3: subway break, make them full and stumble and then asap
Speaker 3: plan was Yeah, I thought it was pretty smart.
Speaker 2: But the dropping another bag off of braids, would y'all
Speaker 2: drop that bag like that? He no thig.
Speaker 3: That bag would have been on my body like that
Speaker 3: seventeen million wouldn't have left and know.
Speaker 2: Oh I dropped it. Nah, that's the point. I would
Speaker 2: have tied it to my wrist.
Speaker 4: Like the plan itself was dope. It was such an
Speaker 4: interesting plan until you stop and think about it. If
Speaker 4: a motherfucker had a backpack for a seventeen mili, he's
Speaker 4: not holding it by one strip.
Speaker 2: That's crazy, I would feel for real before I would
Speaker 2: have been the Andrew Spider Man. And then No Way
Speaker 2: Home ship. I'd have dove.
Speaker 3: Off that bit like this ain't no fucking way, I'm
Speaker 3: just dropping a bag of seventeen bill.
Speaker 2: That ship made no sense.
Speaker 4: But watching it, I thought it was super dope, super dope,
Speaker 4: the way they did that whole scene, especially with I mean,
Speaker 4: we didn't need Rosie. Oh no, Rosie o'donald Rosie Perez
Speaker 4: and Andrew Relmos kind of ham fisted it, but it
Speaker 4: was fine. But when they went from that to the
Speaker 4: train and then the music, the Puerto Rican music, and
Speaker 4: then the dude's chanting, I thought, now that Spike Lee.
Speaker 4: That is fucking prime Spike Lee. That whole scene, the
Speaker 4: way it was done.
Speaker 2: Was amazing, amazing.
Speaker 4: But when he dropped the money and the dude caught
Speaker 4: it and then threw it over the thing, I was like.
Speaker 2: That was really dope. But Denzel didn't seem that concerned.
Speaker 2: He isn't concerned enough for me. If you just dropped
Speaker 2: your life savings, I need a I need that. But
Speaker 2: he was just like, you give my money? Who got
Speaker 2: to get my money back? What? This is your king?
Speaker 2: It's like y'all talk about his best accurate what.
Speaker 3: So they took the tracker and threw it out the bag, assuming, yeah,
Speaker 3: but the tracker is still I was like, the track.
Speaker 2: Is still in the bag.
Speaker 3: They must have took the big ass tracker out of
Speaker 3: the back and then the tracker just disappeared.
Speaker 4: I think that's why he specifically said, put it in
Speaker 4: a Jordan bag.
Speaker 2: Now he didn't say what color.
Speaker 4: I don't think, but I think that's why he specifically
Speaker 4: said have it in a Jordan bag, because they can
Speaker 4: already have a Jordan bag ready for the swap.
Speaker 3: And then once they swapped, they take the tracker out
Speaker 3: and put it in the other bag. That's what they
Speaker 3: I don't think that, yes, we didn't see that happen
Speaker 3: the words and the signal was lost, Like, why was
Speaker 3: the signal? That's why I thought they took the tracker
Speaker 3: out the back. Even if you take the track out
Speaker 3: of the bag, while was the signals?
Speaker 2: When was the signal loss?
Speaker 3: He was when Mayhem was trying to find it, Hm,
Speaker 3: it was said, no signal on the tracker.
Speaker 2: You said, yeah, I lost the signal on the on
Speaker 2: the tracker.
Speaker 4: Maybe they turned it off while they were putting it
Speaker 4: in another bag and then turned it back on to
Speaker 4: throw the cent off.
Speaker 2: I don't know, or it's just.
Speaker 3: Bad because I'm because I'm like, he's gonna catch them, Like,
Speaker 3: you know, I thought the more pad stuff, whatever they
Speaker 3: had was was good. And I thought that I thought
Speaker 3: Mayhem was going to shoot that cop shooting after God,
Speaker 3: shoot that black shoot that guy he found the on
Speaker 3: the mopad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was kind of leading up to that. That
Speaker 2: might have made it more interesting, but yeah.
Speaker 3: And then they wouldn't find a way to get Coyle,
Speaker 3: and blah blah blah was like, oh, you're going to
Speaker 3: shoot the only person they have and none of that
Speaker 3: happened because again the vibes he was giving up anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they got it. They got cole back, We
Speaker 2: got surprises. They let him go. I was I thought
Speaker 2: he was going to kill him. I didn't think they
Speaker 2: were going to kill him because at this point I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, these aren't real. I think I thought
Speaker 2: they were going to let him go.
Speaker 3: And he was just trying to prove a point because dude,
Speaker 3: we Denzel's character. He had ran into him earlier obviously,
Speaker 3: and he was just trying to tup a point and
Speaker 3: make him suffer like he was suffering.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, yeah what Yeah, I was. I was.
Speaker 1: It was good to see him let go and he
Speaker 1: got back reunited and stuff like that. The ransom was
Speaker 1: a good thing for the business, but also a bad
Speaker 1: thing for the business because business is business. And he
Speaker 1: used that money that he got to finance buying his
Speaker 1: state for something else, and the financing company was like
Speaker 1: that shit's good, but we want our money.
Speaker 3: And what's happening. How did it come up so quickly?
Speaker 3: Is it because the amount was in the news.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everything was in The finance company responded, saying, well,
Speaker 1: that was supposed to be our money. Yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: why they accused him of fraud, which legally it probably was. Huh,
Speaker 1: And David was like, no, not David, but uh, they guy.
Speaker 4: From the Wires on I don't remember his name in
Speaker 4: this the guy from the Wire, guy from the Wire betides.
Speaker 2: Oh I forgot. I forgot he was yea they did.
Speaker 4: I didn't need that at all. I didn't need that.
Speaker 4: Who the fuck still does that?
Speaker 2: People still doing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, still run into somebody, but yeah, I was like, what.
Speaker 2: In the world? That was one thing too? Did you
Speaker 2: think Denzel was acting like too young? Yeah? I thought
Speaker 2: he was little.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm wondering if that was because he was still
Speaker 3: in the music is I think that's what That's what
Speaker 3: I thought, though, like it was given Russell Simmons.
Speaker 2: That's what Simmons don't be like doing all the extra ship.
Speaker 4: I can see, I can see. I could absolutely see
Speaker 4: when he was still alive. I could see Quincy Jones
Speaker 4: doing that really yeah, because Quincy Jones was cool, but
Speaker 4: I could see him being kind of corny at times.
Speaker 1: And this guy was grew up with Elson with hip
Speaker 1: hop too, so some of that stuff is just kind
Speaker 1: of just who he is. So that's why you said
Speaker 1: Russell Simmons, I think that's that's that's great comparison.
Speaker 2: But I do feel you because there was like seventy something.
Speaker 3: Russell Simmons quiet, but like he can he give off
Speaker 3: nigga two sometimes, like you could tell that, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, He don't really just modify his behavior
Speaker 3: just because he in big boardrooms and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: And I feel like this character was the same way.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So Patrick comes in, uh, moves on, and then some
Speaker 3: white guy stand or whatever his name was, and they
Speaker 3: basically Denzel was like, hey, you know, deal's back on.
Speaker 1: We can do the deal. And Patrick's like, nah, we good.
Speaker 1: Business is good because of what you did. So we're straight.
Speaker 1: We don't need to do the deal anymore. So we're
Speaker 1: back on top. Which this was kind of confusing to
Speaker 1: me because didn't he buy hit Patrick Steak in the company?
Speaker 3: Did he not sign the paperwork, because if he did,
Speaker 3: he owns controlling interest in the company, So how was
Speaker 3: he unable or unaware of what was going on with.
Speaker 2: I just assume he didn't do it yet or something.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. You have to make
Speaker 2: a lot of assumptions for this movie, Yes you do.
Speaker 2: There was This was a big pitch movie.
Speaker 3: Not a lot of details that like, I don't think
Speaker 3: Spike Lee worked on the details overall premise.
Speaker 2: No, he didn't. Didn't. But if well, and I had
Speaker 2: to talk myself into it.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, if you're still own the company
Speaker 1: and sales and stuff was good, then why are you tripping?
Speaker 2: But he needed the money as to pay it back?
Speaker 2: Uh so damn. So that's that's why.
Speaker 3: That's because I was like, okay, well I did he
Speaker 3: needed things got rocky. I was like, fun, business is good,
Speaker 3: but he needed the seventeen to five to pay back
Speaker 3: in two weeks, so he needed it right away.
Speaker 2: So anyway, so all this going on, blah blah blah
Speaker 2: blah blah.
Speaker 3: Then the best music ears, the best ears in music
Speaker 3: rise listening to his song Yes that they asked Cayle about, He's.
Speaker 2: Like, he kept playing this one song over and over again.
Speaker 2: You know, it turns out it was this song. It
Speaker 2: clearly sounds like the caller dude, very fucking unique voice,
Speaker 2: like he's just cracked the case.
Speaker 3: Like cle But once again, I'm not gonna forget my
Speaker 3: why were the cops.
Speaker 2: Acting like that? He came he came in and was like,
Speaker 2: I figured out the song. They're like, we don't need that.
Speaker 2: Just leave. What what do you mean it's protocol? How
Speaker 2: is it protocol? Listen to the fucking song? At least?
Speaker 3: And when the black cop was being such a dick,
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't understand what's started thinking, Okay,
Speaker 3: maybe they really changed the whole story and these guys
Speaker 3: aren't actually cops. I was like, maybe these guys are
Speaker 3: part of a SAPs team and they did.
Speaker 2: It because did have tim. I don't know if.
Speaker 3: His tongue kind of pulled. He was New York under Couplespike.
Speaker 3: He was, he was, he was Torres throwing nuts. Dude,
Speaker 3: I know that man ain't in his life.
Speaker 2: I think he has that man, where's he from?
Speaker 3: Is he from New York? Everybody from yours? That's so
Speaker 3: PASSI even cops.
Speaker 1: So yeah, So the cops were being assholes for whatever reason.
Speaker 1: This didn't make any sense to me that I was confused.
Speaker 1: This on the nose name of the rapper, Young Felon.
Speaker 1: I want to throw my phone against the I was.
Speaker 2: Like, are you all serious? Man? Are you serious? I
Speaker 2: just I was like, no way, you're doing this, bro?
Speaker 2: You really named him Young Felon? Like, come on, man,
Speaker 2: he comes.
Speaker 3: Back in with the song. I think this is the
Speaker 3: guy is this is a song? So it's like yeah,
Speaker 3: and it's a rapper.
Speaker 2: Named Young Felon from New York.
Speaker 3: See he's war teams. He's sixty one years old. It
Speaker 3: was good for six years a white guy. But yeah,
Speaker 3: this this ship was really aggravating.
Speaker 2: So did you like the song? You don't like the song?
Speaker 2: I liked it. When they played it later in the moment,
Speaker 2: I was like, this is trash. That's when I was asking.
Speaker 1: I think I was gonna text you and ask you
Speaker 1: if you heard it because I listened to the single
Speaker 1: before the movie game.
Speaker 2: It was released as a single. Yeah, this is nice.
Speaker 2: I like this. It was a big rock fandom. That's crazy.
Speaker 2: It's not like it being but still that's not I
Speaker 2: like the song. This song sounds good.
Speaker 3: It's like everything else do not. Really it was a
Speaker 3: little different. I'm surried you don't like him. He's very
Speaker 3: Southern sounded, so I'm surprised you didn't mess with him.
Speaker 2: But I was surprised. The song wasn't bad.
Speaker 4: But it was like it just it just aggravated me
Speaker 4: because it's like, bro, so y'all were playing your own music.
Speaker 2: Around the dude. That was when I said go ahead.
Speaker 3: So we are under the ass that they kidnapped him
Speaker 3: and had him in the studio while they were recording.
Speaker 2: Is that?
Speaker 3: What was Either that or they were just playing the
Speaker 3: song at the stash house.
Speaker 4: I don't know, but either way, it's like, Bro, this
Speaker 4: is this is just getting ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Okay, you thought that was ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Oh how ridiculous was it for a convicted felon and
Speaker 1: a music mogul to go get their own money back?
Speaker 2: I was so done at this. I was like, are
Speaker 2: y'all serious? The streets way? I was like, what what?
Speaker 2: The streets seventeen much the studio to record some songs?
Speaker 4: Seventeen When Jeffrey Wright was texting, who's this nigga?
Speaker 2: I was like, you don't say nigga like that? I
Speaker 2: know you don't.
Speaker 4: This just felt weird. You don't type nigga like that.
Speaker 4: You said, who is this young man?
Speaker 2: That's what you type? Jeffrey, Right, there's no way they're
Speaker 2: going to get the money.
Speaker 3: And they roll up on the apartment, and the apartment
Speaker 3: you saw the number they were living in.
Speaker 2: You're lying, no, it wasn't.
Speaker 7: Probably twenty four brom Like, I was so fucking.
Speaker 3: When I saw this, Are y'all fucking status bro twenty four?
Speaker 3: This movie's asked, Yeah, I thought that was card to
Speaker 3: b For a second.
Speaker 2: That didn't look like she's so cute, but she's not rapping.
Speaker 2: I was like, she looked there and had closing right. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she just looked very calm and meek. And I was like, oh, I,
Speaker 2: Spice is so shoe.
Speaker 3: You got to see her in her new video Horny
Speaker 3: to see that ship.
Speaker 2: I've killing me with that ship. I'm telling you that
Speaker 2: one on what's a video with her? No mommy? Yeah? Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Yeah is the mom in the video? No?
Speaker 1: But anyway, So I had the whole conversation with the girl.
Speaker 1: We understand the relationship between David and and young fella
Speaker 1: who named his kid David. She has the cardio bra
Speaker 1: slid on and stuff like that, and all this other
Speaker 1: stuff that was so.
Speaker 2: And then they go to the uh to the studio.
Speaker 2: She told everything and then a dog almost got Denzel.
Speaker 2: Why was this in the movie? Why was this in
Speaker 2: the movie? What are you doing? What are y'all doing?
Speaker 2: Even like a vicious dog dog like he wanted to play.
Speaker 3: Was not even part and aggressive he did, and his
Speaker 3: face didn't even look mean, like not like a regular people.
Speaker 2: He looked like, oh my god, bro, this ship was
Speaker 2: so stupid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh so anyway, so yeah, so ace happened
Speaker 3: in uh Denzel Denzel have.
Speaker 2: A conversation and it's a lot of preaching. Is the
Speaker 2: conversation was the rap battle and a rap battle, like
Speaker 2: I'm like this, it's a little it went long, but
Speaker 2: it was. It wasn't bad, but it went a little long.
Speaker 2: It did go a little long.
Speaker 3: I was just like, damn, y'all, y'all, y'all really milked
Speaker 3: this one. Y'all really milked this one because it could
Speaker 3: have been a really good scene.
Speaker 4: Like but yeah, y'all, look it went a little long
Speaker 4: and y'all milked it. But no, yeah, I agree with percent.
Speaker 4: Yeah it went a bit too long. I was just like,
Speaker 4: all right, bro, I'm really supposed to believe Denzel's up
Speaker 4: here rapping like this right right?
Speaker 2: This is this is a little I like the acknowledgement
Speaker 2: in it. It was like, what are we having a battle?
Speaker 3: Now? You waited too long to say that because I
Speaker 3: said that right when he started raping?
Speaker 2: What are we doing? Right? Now right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so yeah, he was like, oh you hollow,
Speaker 3: lonely quiet.
Speaker 1: That's what I want to hear about, not the outside.
Speaker 1: I want it was inside outside.
Speaker 3: You know, he's did the whole father line and.
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, should add like the hook, like you
Speaker 2: know where my fucking money like that? Ol. That sounds
Speaker 2: like some ship can't just say to his tongue, make
Speaker 2: the hook? Wisheal got damn back? Like I said, some
Speaker 2: bar right, because second I thought it was gonna give
Speaker 2: some really fight I did. I really did YO know
Speaker 2: that ship like yo.
Speaker 4: I was paused when like the sucking the buddy left
Speaker 4: the guy that was recording. I paused for a minute.
Speaker 4: I rounded back because I must have missed something. The
Speaker 4: dude left and never came in the door.
Speaker 2: Yeah you know you're not calling nobody. You ain't got back.
Speaker 2: We had a cold conversation about the hood bro. So
Speaker 2: he was like, I'm not gonna go snitch. I'm going
Speaker 2: to get in the halmies. I don't.
Speaker 3: I think he probably was just an engineer. Maybe he
Speaker 3: was a part of the team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we see, okay, okay.
Speaker 3: Just trying to make because I was I was like, bro,
Speaker 3: why are you just gonna yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2: Know that makes sense because yeah, but yeah.
Speaker 3: Right, m yeah that would happened to our boy facts
Speaker 3: that would We're not gonna s awfoy. That wouldn't have happened.
Speaker 3: Keep it right there, bro hurting the door knocks, hurt
Speaker 3: talking about most of Yeah, most of them. They don't play.
Speaker 3: They put it right there just in case you thought
Speaker 3: something was going I do.
Speaker 2: More than mixed.
Speaker 3: I killed my fucking play with me if you want
Speaker 3: to specific equipment in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it seemed like, you know, I don't know, it's weird,
Speaker 1: this whole conversation they were having.
Speaker 3: I was like, is he gonna convince him to.
Speaker 1: Change his life or whatever? I don't know, but you know,
Speaker 1: I was like, nah, to shut at him. And then
Speaker 1: there's this whole.
Speaker 3: Chasing this when I got mad, go ahead, go ahead,
Speaker 3: got old As chasing his young ass man like he
Speaker 3: got them.
Speaker 2: Like mission mission impossible. God, I'm like, and that was
Speaker 2: I said, there's no way you're gonna catch this kid.
Speaker 3: Why that's not a good idea, Like that's just not
Speaker 3: a good idea writing it, directing it, like even the
Speaker 3: actor should be.
Speaker 2: And that's after he shot the old boy.
Speaker 3: He shot at the window, and then because I thought
Speaker 3: I was remember that, he said, let me get that
Speaker 3: four hours and then he said Jeffery Wright pulled.
Speaker 2: Out a bigger game. Was like, what is that? He
Speaker 2: was like, what is Mayhem? Right here?
Speaker 3: He said Jake from State Form That one was funny, Yeah,
Speaker 3: and then he said Mayhem man.
Speaker 2: I didn't like it.
Speaker 4: Oh you like this Jake Froul State Farm, like the
Speaker 4: Mayhem part of referencing the dude that's in the movie.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that was him in the movie, so
Speaker 3: I thought it was I thought it was a funny line.
Speaker 2: So corny man. But he ain't ship Jeffrey right. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he didn't know. He didn't. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I just looked up and he shot the glass and
Speaker 4: the glass flew in his eye. I didn't want it
Speaker 4: back to because the movie did not make it clear
Speaker 4: until he started yelling about his eyes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought he actually legit shot him.
Speaker 3: I thought they got him because I was like, why
Speaker 3: did you open the car door and just fall out
Speaker 3: the car like that?
Speaker 2: If you get somebody shooting at you and the door
Speaker 2: and my thing is like you made him look hard.
Speaker 3: The whole movie like tall, big ship the whole Max,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna suck this kid up, and I ain't gonna
Speaker 3: lie to you'aup.
Speaker 2: You even make it to the point you just put
Speaker 2: hands on nobody in his He put hands on his eye,
Speaker 2: was on his eye. End up in the in the
Speaker 2: hospital bed with a patch on. They shot me in
Speaker 2: the eye. All the class in my eye. Get that motherfucker.
Speaker 2: Then he repeat it this class in my eye? Who
Speaker 2: are you talking to? Who are you talking to? Then
Speaker 2: El's gone, yeah, yeah, God damn, Spike, what did you do?
Speaker 3: So they end up on the subway and forever reason
Speaker 3: Asap ended up on top of the subway.
Speaker 2: What fig surfa, Well he's swags surfing on the fucking train.
Speaker 2: Spider man, now bro.
Speaker 3: Then he jumped down on this zeil and they fight
Speaker 3: between the cars and whoop his ass and then on
Speaker 3: top of they was.
Speaker 2: Like, let me go, let me go. I want to
Speaker 2: I don't want to live. I'm like, where did this
Speaker 2: come from? Even the same dude, that little nigga too,
Speaker 2: you need your money. He still had money, and then
Speaker 2: he just he whooped his ass.
Speaker 4: I'm so fucking sorry, Denzel not beating asap Rocky's ass.
Speaker 2: I don't funk.
Speaker 4: How cool y'all think, Denzel is, this was the most
Speaker 4: unrealistic ship I have seen in the movie, says Nigga
Speaker 4: Bird beat the Hulk.
Speaker 2: They were just you know, Mike when he was in
Speaker 2: the car.
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh that's not You don't touss the old hand
Speaker 6: when in the car, like you don't funk.
Speaker 2: With the old But the fact that you beat him,
Speaker 2: that that easy.
Speaker 4: No, dude, And he kicked him into all types of
Speaker 4: ship man. And the music was all triumphant, dunt dun dune.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, this was one of the worst scores
Speaker 3: I've ever heard in my life.
Speaker 2: You keep hating the music. I didn't think the music
Speaker 2: was that bad. I thought it took away. It was awkward.
Speaker 2: It made the movie like it was. Yeah, it was it.
Speaker 2: Probably the movie actually probably could have been a little
Speaker 2: bit better. Better, the score was better. Yeah, I'm with
Speaker 2: you on that. Interesting. So anyway, Yeah, so we get
Speaker 2: the money back.
Speaker 1: Boys in the in there with his eye messed up,
Speaker 1: he declined the job.
Speaker 2: He said, I'm gonna do something else.
Speaker 4: You're not gonna make a joke about my fucking fucked
Speaker 4: up eye. Right after it happened. I'm fucking you up, dude, he.
Speaker 2: Called him dog.
Speaker 3: He made like four jokes after what you just did
Speaker 3: about I don't really want to pay the money to
Speaker 3: get your son back, and then you got jokes about
Speaker 3: me getting glass.
Speaker 2: I'm beating your asses, Zell, I'm beating your ass. I'm
Speaker 2: beating your ass. I love it. Yeah, come on, man, Yeah,
Speaker 2: some time with my son Kyle.
Speaker 3: And finally they got around to uh, you know, oh no,
Speaker 3: then after this he went to see uh, a young
Speaker 3: fella in jail. Oh yeah, this this movie should have ended. Yes,
Speaker 3: it sounded like this felt like a director. I like
Speaker 3: the singing part.
Speaker 1: So I'm talking about the conversation that comes like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to point this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just had this conversation in the booth. Y'all
Speaker 3: literally just did this, Like I literally just.
Speaker 4: Like, y'all got to cut this out because that's how
Speaker 4: the the OG ends, with them having a conversation like that.
Speaker 4: That's not spoiler, but that's how it. But in the OG,
Speaker 4: the conversation is so much more interesting. It's it's it's
Speaker 4: an amazingly done scene and the way it ends seals
Speaker 4: the movie being great.
Speaker 2: That's what Spike was going for it was just bad.
Speaker 2: It would have been all right if we didn't just
Speaker 2: see it.
Speaker 3: Yes, we just saw that, and you know, you know
Speaker 3: what if that if that's how it is in an og,
Speaker 3: you should just cut this so now.
Speaker 2: And that made the booth that scene. It's like you
Speaker 2: did it twice. Why. It's like, it's like you pick one.
Speaker 2: I agree, you.
Speaker 3: Want to do the booth glass, you want to do
Speaker 3: this jail. So it's like, why did you do it?
Speaker 3: Like it just didn't make sense.
Speaker 4: I guess Spike Lee thought that, like this is a
Speaker 4: different conversation because he's actually trying to sell himself to
Speaker 4: Denzel at this point, and he's successful at this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he's in jail, but ironically successful.
Speaker 4: And it's making a commentary on how that hip hop
Speaker 4: is like that the more of a fella you are,
Speaker 4: the more of a bad guy you are, the more
Speaker 4: popular you are.
Speaker 2: So I did like the idea. It was it was
Speaker 2: just bad here. Yeah yeah, yeah, it just didn't go nowhere.
Speaker 2: And I'm surprised you like that music video. He probably
Speaker 2: like the ass flipping around in the back. I didn't
Speaker 2: see no music.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the lady was saying, oh this this
Speaker 1: So after the there we get to Sula.
Speaker 3: Oh wait wait wait, but we're skipping over a very
Speaker 3: confusing part. So you before they got to the jail
Speaker 3: is doing a music video and it made no sense
Speaker 3: and he's in his felling out you missed all this ass, Spiker.
Speaker 2: It was about three women, he said about three because
Speaker 2: you couldn't. It was just so much ass Spike twelve,
Speaker 2: but it was about.
Speaker 3: Three Yeah, about to go wind and that's crazy was doing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's why I'm like, why are you skipping this?
Speaker 2: Because this was so confusing.
Speaker 3: He was dancing and then just skipped to the jail scene.
Speaker 3: It was like, what just happened?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I thought I was like, oh ship Denzel
Speaker 1: signed dude to stacking his and he's making money off
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 2: But this part happened before the conversation. Yeah, that's why I.
Speaker 4: Didn't make any I was like, oh okay, and I
Speaker 4: thought they were going back in time to see how
Speaker 4: this happened.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I was thinking. No, no, no, that's
Speaker 3: not what I was thinking. I was thinking that that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was thinking when he was going to talk to him,
Speaker 3: were going to talk about the success of the record. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: it was like, oh his music video, this song that
Speaker 3: blew up because remember he was walking in JA was.
Speaker 2: Like, I ain't doing on minute in a minute and free,
Speaker 2: young fella. Free.
Speaker 1: You already talked about that, and then uh, the song
Speaker 1: comes out and there's a big hit, which you know,
Speaker 1: of course as reference what you just said, and then
Speaker 1: they're gonna talk about how successful the record is on
Speaker 1: top and when you ran out, because remember he was like,
Speaker 1: how many years are gonna get he said twenty five.
Speaker 1: He was like, he did say, that's not long enough.
Speaker 3: But I thought they worked out some deals where he
Speaker 3: would get out sooner and so he can make money off.
Speaker 3: So I'm confused the music video happened. Is that that's
Speaker 3: why did I don't know what you'a were talking about.
Speaker 3: I thought y'all was seeing a real video. I remember this.
Speaker 3: I thought that this was him dreaming of some ship.
Speaker 2: Right. I'm still I'm still not sure. I don't know
Speaker 2: he actual because he was in his jailhouse outfit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so god, yeah, I don't know. I don't know how
Speaker 2: you would get people in there to record this video.
Speaker 2: I don't know was in jail the video. Not in jail.
Speaker 4: He is like a or something. He has his jail, sir,
Speaker 4: he got sense. Man, stupid, I don't get this part.
Speaker 4: This was stupid as fuck.
Speaker 2: Man, I didn't get this part.
Speaker 3: I didn't get the random clips of them three on
Speaker 3: the bench or whatever, the Denzel, his wife and the sun.
Speaker 3: They were just on the bench and kept putting that
Speaker 3: in Like I missed that.
Speaker 2: Oh it was yeah, it was just.
Speaker 3: Like like like a a montage, like a montage that
Speaker 3: they would do, like they did it like three times
Speaker 3: in the movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were just sitting like this what you I
Speaker 2: didn't see this ship saw it. I was probably not
Speaker 2: paying attention after a while, But no, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was just like like it was like
Speaker 3: you know how sometime they did like the old film. Look,
Speaker 3: yeah they did that like three or four times, or
Speaker 3: just them three on the bench. You remember this ship
Speaker 3: where was the bench? It was just we don't know,
Speaker 3: it was just random. I don't know why they did that.
Speaker 3: It was just a bunch of random artsy ship. Yeah,
Speaker 3: maybe that's what it was. He knew A twenty four
Speaker 3: had the interest, so he was trying to make it
Speaker 3: more artsy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was trying to figure out women the
Speaker 1: shooler personally gonna come back around.
Speaker 2: And then when he decided.
Speaker 3: To go on his own and be back in love
Speaker 3: with the music, she was gonna be the love love
Speaker 3: him for him.
Speaker 2: And you know what you say, what does the C
Speaker 2: stand for? Can you know? That's cool? You gotta be good?
Speaker 2: You can't. I can't see anybody like this. I did, definitely, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I like the music. I didn't like the zip.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was come on, like nobody, come on, come on,
Speaker 3: come on, come on, come on.
Speaker 2: And then they say the name of the movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the songs called hold to lois Man, that's cool,
Speaker 3: that's cool.
Speaker 2: People know in No, they didn't, you know they they
Speaker 2: can't be the fuck up out of here bro. I
Speaker 2: would have been so mad if I went to see
Speaker 2: that in Bro pissed somebody. Yeah, it was so you
Speaker 2: know so yeah.
Speaker 1: So then so there's she and then again another black
Speaker 1: or cultural reference when Tony Morrison, how'd you get the name?
Speaker 2: Oh you're you're a family of readers? I see? She
Speaker 2: was like, nah, I don't read. Why was that necessary?
Speaker 2: I don't know. So I was trying to figure that out.
Speaker 3: But I'm trying to but this generation there are this
Speaker 3: generation does read.
Speaker 1: But it almost felt like, you know, you have the phones.
Speaker 1: Then it got David's not on the phone. You have
Speaker 1: her names after Tony Morrison, and there's a reading generation,
Speaker 1: but this generation, I guess, don't read. You have the
Speaker 1: music where it's all about the music and the soul,
Speaker 1: and then you have AI and attention is the currency.
Speaker 1: And it felt like there was like, then you have
Speaker 1: the old man chasing down a young man beating him up.
Speaker 1: So it's almost like this tale of two generations kind
Speaker 1: of clashy. But again I don't know why she said,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't read, like.
Speaker 4: I feel like only an old, detached man would write this.
Speaker 2: That's how I feel.
Speaker 3: Thought whole movie felt like Spike Lee out of touch
Speaker 3: and this was his commentary on how I see the
Speaker 3: world today and how kids fucking everything up, using the
Speaker 3: o G as a vehicle to tell this story. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because I didn't know anything about the original movie. This
Speaker 3: is my first you're talking about it now, it's my
Speaker 3: first time hearing about it, so I didn't.
Speaker 2: Know it was a remake at all.
Speaker 4: I don't I mean, I assume people maybe they don't,
Speaker 4: but I wouldn't even I don't even know if this would.
Speaker 2: Be any of y'all's thing. If it was an American film, maybe,
Speaker 2: but it was just so disappointing. It's based off a
Speaker 2: book to kings.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the movie itself was from I understand was based
Speaker 4: on a book. But again, it's not so much the story.
Speaker 4: It was just the way Kirassauer filmed it and edited
Speaker 4: it and directed it that just made it like, God,
Speaker 4: this is like who wants to watch an hour of
Speaker 4: legit to a living room?
Speaker 2: But when you watch the film.
Speaker 4: You're like, this is incredible, this, this story is fast.
Speaker 4: Fain never got there with this, not one single time.
Speaker 4: And you don't have to copy the original, dude to
Speaker 4: your own thing. Do something creative, but at least do
Speaker 4: something interesting and good. Like as much as I hated
Speaker 4: the Suspirior remake, at least they did something different this.
Speaker 2: Oh, we're just gonna put black people in it and just.
Speaker 4: Have a nowhere asked story. No, bro, the way this
Speaker 4: just ends.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do this. Oh what Tray said were my cut?
Speaker 2: Was my cut?
Speaker 1: And then the mom says she's gonna be part of
Speaker 1: it too, So we just a family business, which is
Speaker 1: kind of a reference to him being referred to as
Speaker 1: a NEPO baby when he got kidnapped. And he was
Speaker 1: also making the commentary about, oh well, dad, I can't
Speaker 1: ignore it's everywhere. It's everywhere, you know, the social media
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So that was that commentary going
Speaker 1: on too.
Speaker 4: Did y'all know that was Jeffrey Rights. I'm pretty sure
Speaker 4: it was Jeffrey Wright's actual son. I did not know
Speaker 4: that unless it's just another Right, which would be random.
Speaker 4: But his last name was right in the credit, so
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, neat, hm mm hmm.
Speaker 2: This was whack whack. I think just losing this fast
Speaker 2: Wait what this is? Why wasn't the national I think
Speaker 2: people looked at this.
Speaker 4: One like yeah, I think so too, because a lot
Speaker 4: of people were confused before it came out. They're like,
Speaker 4: how is a Spike Lee Denzel film in limited showings?
Speaker 2: Because it's bad? Because it's bad, dude, that's why.
Speaker 3: He's losing his fastball. Yeah, you have to equalize it,
Speaker 3: equalizing straight.
Speaker 2: But he called himself something that y'all catch that.
Speaker 3: He didn't call himself to equalize, he called him Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't think losing his I think Spike, I think,
Speaker 3: you know, I don't think his acting was great in here,
Speaker 3: but I don't either, you know. I think he's you
Speaker 3: brought up earlier. I think him and Tyler Perry is
Speaker 3: suffering from this Tyler period don't care. But I think
Speaker 3: this zel does care more about his legacy when he
Speaker 3: needs to involve younger people in his process, like Tyler
Speaker 3: Perry has his process. It's fine, you do it over,
Speaker 3: you make this type of move for these type of people.
Speaker 3: But again, Spike Lee, the name that that holds in
Speaker 3: the movie business. For black people to see this is
Speaker 3: very disappointing because it's just like, Oh, I'm gonna keep
Speaker 3: doing it my way how I always been doing it
Speaker 3: and it should work.
Speaker 2: Like nah, some of this stuff need to change. Yeah,
Speaker 2: But I'm looking.
Speaker 4: At his filmography, and his last actual film was The
Speaker 4: Five Bloods. Before that, his actual last film was Black Clansmen.
Speaker 2: I didn't like Black Clansmen.
Speaker 4: I really liked The Five Bloods, and I feel like
Speaker 4: both of those movies were regarded as really good. I
Speaker 4: think it's mixed reviews. It's from what I'm seeing. Because
Speaker 4: I was so confused, I had to go look. But yeah,
Speaker 4: some people are really loving it. Some people are thinking
Speaker 4: it's whack.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm thinking about it because I saw the reason.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't just remember the bad ones then, because
Speaker 1: if I do, Five Bloods was a bounce back. I
Speaker 1: think I do think people I do recall people lik
Speaker 1: him black class, but I didn't.
Speaker 2: Have loved it. I didn't like it. I didn't like it, but.
Speaker 1: I think I remember you guys not liking it that much.
Speaker 1: But so, yeah, so I don't know.
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, I missed this movie. He has a movie
Speaker 4: called Passover there I never even saw. That's rated decently high.
Speaker 4: So maybe I need to go watch this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I don't know why he got this
Speaker 2: so wrong. Man, Like you had the right elements. I
Speaker 2: think the potential was definitely there.
Speaker 4: I think that he should not have gone off the
Speaker 4: fact that I'm remaking a movie.
Speaker 2: He shouldn't have done that.
Speaker 4: He should have just been like, this is inspired, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna make my own story. But I feel like he
Speaker 4: thought he had to stick to the story and then
Speaker 4: but just make it black, Like you can't just make
Speaker 4: some shit black sund like a trumper.
Speaker 2: You can't just make me shit black.
Speaker 4: And be like, well, that's good enough. And that's what
Speaker 4: it felt like Spike Lee did here. It's like I'm
Speaker 4: just gonna make black people involved in this.
Speaker 2: That's gonna be good enough. We still want good.
Speaker 3: Stories, yes, yeah, yeah, treating us like come on man anyway,
Speaker 3: but that's it, man, Let us know what you guys
Speaker 3: think about spikes Uh, Spike Lee's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the.
Speaker 3: Little transition thing they had with the woman with the
Speaker 3: locks going across the screen, Like, yeah, it's like it
Speaker 3: was like a transition. It was like like corny Star
Speaker 3: Wars transitions. It was like a woman with dreads going across.
Speaker 3: It was like a logo Jeffrey right hand.
Speaker 2: What.
Speaker 3: Yes, it was in the movie. Yes, it was in
Speaker 3: the movie. They did it like two or three times.
Speaker 2: I didn't see that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And they did the Star Wars one one time too,
Speaker 3: with the circle. I saw that one did not look good, right,
Speaker 3: that one didn't look good.
Speaker 2: You know, I missed.
Speaker 3: The the transition with the with the it's like a
Speaker 3: woman's head with I'm assuming its locks and I'm assuming
Speaker 3: it was like branding purposes.
Speaker 2: And then did.
Speaker 3: Y'all get the Rick Fox and the Cops when he
Speaker 3: was shorter than that. I understand what's going on there.
Speaker 3: I thought he was sitting down. I thought it was
Speaker 3: probably like just author to the tative perspective.
Speaker 2: So they didn't nail that home because it looked weird
Speaker 2: as hell.
Speaker 4: The cops weren't even really like being assholes, like the
Speaker 4: one guy asked when autograph and every guy was like, no,
Speaker 4: I'm good, And.
Speaker 1: It was only because he's a selfish man, not because
Speaker 1: he was racing.
Speaker 2: Right, So yeah, that didn't really What are we supposed
Speaker 2: to pull from that?
Speaker 3: I guess because Rick Fox is tall, and he's clearly
Speaker 3: taller than the cops, So I thought like he was
Speaker 3: trying to trying to show some sort of like inferior
Speaker 3: type of situation to the you know, up against cops.
Speaker 2: You could have done that with I mean, just get
Speaker 2: this shit out of here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like he was trying to do a
Speaker 3: little shit like that's I think he was trying to
Speaker 3: be artsy in some moments and it just didn't work.
Speaker 2: It didn't work. He's done artsy. He did artsy so
Speaker 2: much better in like school days. Yeah, bamboozled or school days,
Speaker 2: he did artsy. It's like, what are you doing? Here,
Speaker 2: come off, Spike. You can do better than this, bro.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll leave it there man. We'll catch
Speaker 1: you guys next time. We got peace.