WEBVTT - Highest 2 Lowest 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:11.840 Welcome everybody to a new episode of the France per 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:12.520 Second Podcast. 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:14.120 My name is Kenneth ban Is joining on the show, 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:17.720 Rod Spike and Mike what else. Uh. 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:25.840 Today we are reviewing highest to Lowest, a new Spike one, 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:33.600 A Spike Spike one, Spike Lee. 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:35.640 And Dinzel Washington. 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:41.080 Now, apparently, uh, are you gonna call I have been, 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:43.360 I have been calling him somebody, everybody. 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:47.680 Gonna call him, calling that man Denzel because party he's bullshit. 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:51.240 I believe the store. It doesn't make any sense though 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:56.920 that he's a junior and oh that part sure, But like, 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:58.440 why now? Why now? 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:00.400 Because I just watched him do an inner you with 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:04.280 Spike Lee and Asap Rocky and he was talking about, 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:06.679 you know, Denzel's a great name and name great name 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:08.280 and name your child out there all laughing. 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:11.920 You didn't say Denzel. You said Denzel because he'll always 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:15.759 been Denzel, right, So I don't know. It just seems weird. 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:20.360 It is really weird, Like apparently, wife, he's he's mentioned 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:22.520 this before, So why didn't just make it seem like 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:26.000 it was this revelation, like, well, this thing he just revealed. 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:28.959 I thought it was a big reveal until she said that. 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:31.720 I was like, okay, but it probably just gotten lost 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:35.200 over the years that nobody just ever knew. Possibly for 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:37.880 the most part, he is Denzel, yes, you know if 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:40.840 you really think about, Like the story for those that 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:45.520 are listening is that he's a junior and whenever his 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:50.440 mom would call Denzel, both would show up, and that's 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:55.360 why she just was like, Okay, you're Denzel meaning the dad, 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:59.800 and no, you're Denzel meaning the dad and the junior 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:02.720 Denzel is I'm gonna call you Denzel. 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:05.680 Oh so okay, So it's mama called him. His mama 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:11.440 called him, his mama call himel right, yeah, so it's 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:13.359 not like in other words. So when I heard that, 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:16.200 I was like, oh, so we haven't been getting it wrong. No, no, 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:18.160 you know that is his names. 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:22.120 So yeah, what the mother fucking name of Denzel? So 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:25.040 I thought that was interesting. But okay, so now that 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:27.280 makes more sense. It made a lot of sense. That 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:30.519 makes more Okay, it's mama name of class. I'm gonna 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:34.880 call him class right, right, right? Right? What's that? Come on? Man? 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:36.880 He knew That's why he knew what I was saying. 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:43.400 Just now okay, but but yeah, man, so you know 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:44.680 they partnered up. 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:49.200 I think this is their fifth movie together, yep, to 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:54.960 do the movie that was put out in joint couple 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:59.200 of collaboration with A twenty four and Apple TV. I 0:02:59.200 --> 0:02:59.760 did not know this. 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:03.920 Yeah, I didn't know that either until I started watching it. 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:07.000 So they like the kind was made A twenty four 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:10.440 ish in my opinion, where I just thought it looked 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:13.880 like it the way that made I just started looks simple. 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:18.280 The four stuff that I seen they have mass mass releases, 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:22.639 well just just a the look. It looked like, what's 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:23.120 the one with. 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:27.720 They did what the world was ending and they was 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:30.880 doing the military stuff quarters. 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:33.359 In the Civil War that it looked like they had 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:36.720 the same look to me. And did they do the 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:40.080 one with? Adam said, yeah, you looked like that too, 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:44.400 mm hmm. But you know they don't technically do the film, 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:46.800 They just just yeah. 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:52.800 Anyway, uh nah, I saw Spike Lee all through this movie, right. 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:56.320 Yeah, okay, Okay, that's that's why I question. I was like, nah, 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:58.480 it's is that all. 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:03.640 Spike Lee's normal shit, isn't it? But anyway, so let's 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:06.600 talk about the movie. Man, Spike, what did you think 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:09.760 about the movie? You said, sing Spike Lee all in 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:14.000 this I loved the story. 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:18.160 I thought it was a good story, but watching it, 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:21.360 it made me wonder with Spike Lee's style of telling 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:24.760 the story to dated, like one of the really one 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:27.120 of the most annoying things in this movie to me 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:31.159 was that music. And I know it's traditionally his style, 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:33.800 him playing music in the back. 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:34.640 Of like scenes. 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:40.320 I just irritated it never let me get fully engaged 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:41.800 in the movie because I'm like, why are you playing 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:45.480 that dumb ass music in the background. But with that 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:47.479 being said, I think Jeffery Wright did a good job. 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:49.760 I think Denzel did a good job. I liked the 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:52.520 casting r Wife. I think the story was great. What 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:57.039 didn't work for me was just a Spike Lee style 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:58.920 of telling the story. And I know it's always been 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:00.440 like it, but I'm just not sure it can be 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:01.800 like that in twenty twenty five. 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:05.440 The wife was awful to me. She plays well. 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:07.640 I guess I've gotten used to it because she plays 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:13.159 the exact same role in Godfather Harlem. I mean, like 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:16.000 he probably seen that TV show. I was like, Oh, 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:18.240 come do that over here, because she plays the exact 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:23.080 same role. Like she she Bumpy Johnson's wife and she 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:26.080 acts just like that. She's got the same privileges married 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:27.880 to a rich dude, like she she feel like she 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:33.120 got those privileges in Hollywood and look at but yeah, 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:35.520 she acted just like she acted in Godfather Harlem. 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:37.640 So but overall it was it was okay. I just 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:44.200 wish if the story had been told. But right, what. 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:51.520 The black films like this, Mike, you can need them 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:53.240 all day. I ain't gotta watch no more of them. 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:54.239 This was terrible. 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:58.560 This was man. I love Spike Lee and I. 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:02.760 Will never disrespect, but he needs to stop remaking movies, 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:07.599 especially ones that are already highly acclaimed classic films. 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:10.359 Stop. This was awful. 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:19.240 Off full having to watch it, I didn't notice was 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:19.760 a remake. 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:25.320 Yes, it's a remake of a great movie, just like 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:26.520 he did with Old Boy. 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:29.640 I don't know why he keeps telling this. I really don't. 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:32.560 And I'm not even necessarily all the way against remaking films, 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:34.920 but I think Spike needs to do a better job 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:35.360 of which. 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:36.159 Films he's gonna remake. 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.640 Remake ones that are bad, not bad, but like pick 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:44.840 the worst film in somebody's you know, career, and be like, Okay, 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:48.000 I'm gonna improve on that nothing about this film. 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:50.680 Improved up on the original. It was terrible. 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:57.640 The acting was not great, the dialogue was was was choppy, 0:06:57.680 --> 0:06:59.240 the just it was just bad. 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:02.480 Y'all. I'm sorry. It's bad. It's bad. And Spike Lee 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:05.800 can do better than this. So you think Spike Lee 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:11.800 can do better than this? I feel like you can't. Yeah, 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:15.840 I mean, what was the last Spike joint? Oh? Boy, 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:16.640 wasn't it? 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:16.760 No? 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:23.800 It was the Brothers movie? That was that? His five whatever, 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:24.800 the warr movie. 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:27.960 It was pretty good. It was on Netflix. We liked 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:29.920 it because it had because what was that his movie? 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:33.240 I don't know. Okay, well take that back. Did you 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:34.520 like this one? No? I did not? 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:42.280 Okay, no, no, no, No, five Bloods the horror movie? 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:46.200 Was that his movie? Yeah? Okay, no, we're saying that 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:48.160 it was. It was pretty good. We liked the performances 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:50.240 in it because it had what I. 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:51.520 Thought when said it was a horror movie. I was 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:52.920 trying to think it went last time, Spike Lee's a 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:53.480 horror movie. 0:07:54.640 --> 0:08:01.400 This one. I was watch man, I was, I was. 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:04.120 I was really disappointed by this and and and and 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:06.440 like I had an idea because I did see like 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:07.680 part of a preview or something. 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:10.920 I was like, I don't know about that one, and 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:13.840 yeah I was. I was right. No, this wasn't it. Bro. 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:16.320 It was just so many things that was like bad 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:21.960 about this. It's the wife man single handedly this. Oh 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:23.520 my god, I didn't think she was. 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:29.080 That she was bad. I mean, I don't just got kicknapped. 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:34.520 She's like, I didn't see one tear. Your son just 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:39.000 got kidnapped? Yeah, bro, man this man? 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:43.840 Yeah, it almost it almost made denzil and and and 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:45.199 Jeffrey Right looked bad. 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:55.040 Oh, it made Jeffrey Right look terrible. No, really, bro. 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:58.280 Every time they cursed and they spoke black, and it 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:03.000 sounded like some one hamphistically wrote black dialogue for a 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:03.440 white person. 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:05.880 I asked my wife after this, I said, was this 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:06.960 too too black? 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:11.880 And it just it was it just and she's saying something. 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:15.920 About just forgot what she word she used with something 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:20.079 about culture forward. So you know, but it did feel 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:22.680 like I'm like, oh man, this is like you really 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:25.720 just kind of forcing this this down. 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:28.640 You know, It's just like it was my wife dead. 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:31.480 What it was a lot. It was a lot, and 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:33.720 Spike is always black with his movies. 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:35.520 But it was just like, I don't know, this is 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:39.080 one just felt weird. It was it was an off 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:42.240 putting feeling too. It was like like it was really 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:45.319 wrong stretches. It was just like, bro, what what is happening? 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:48.640 And why? I was like, is this supposed to be 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:51.880 a dream sequence? Why is he doing that? That was 0:09:51.920 --> 0:10:00.400 so classing my eye? Get that? Only what is this? 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:04.920 Oh my god man? This was depressed. 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:09.160 So it's the same story, basically, it's the same story. 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:09.760 So here's the thing. 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:15.360 The story is very basic, yes, but it's Curisala's. 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:18.200 Like film style that made it interesting. Like I don't 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:18.960 know if you would like it? 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:22.080 Do you do? You not do subtitle movies either? Really, 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:23.319 then you probably wouldn't dig it. 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:27.280 But it's it's a very stylistic film, and I don't 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:29.320 want to compare it all the way, but like, I'll 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:30.920 just get this one piece out. 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:33.600 The first hour of the og. 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:36.320 Is in the dude's living room when they're finding out 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:39.240 that his son was kidnapped and what's happening, And the 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:43.400 whole time you're fascinated because Curis Have you has anybody 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:45.200 seen any Curisy films? 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:48.920 I know you haven't because he's it's all subtitled obviously. Well, 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:52.800 I've watched some like Motorcycle Diaries and stuff like that. 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:54.880 I've seen, like, it's not like I'm just. 0:10:55.120 --> 0:11:02.480 Anti well at any rate, he has this incredible way 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:04.520 of filming. And if you watch, even if you just 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:06.880 watch the first thirty minutes of the original, you'll see 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:10.600 him talking about like he will have people that are 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.560 talking and saying really important things, but they'll be in 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:18.560 the back right hand, and there'll be other people that 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:21.160 are just not doing anything in the foreground. So it 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:23.320 keeps you being like, Okay, what's going on, and it 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:24.800 keeps you your eyes moving. 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:27.480 But it's a really interesting way that he does this. 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:29.559 What's his problem movies? Really quickly? 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:33.440 What's He's mostly known for samurai films, so ten Samurai 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:38.520 Something Forrest, which is the one that inspired Star Wars. 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:41.679 I think it's called Hidden Forest. But he's mostly known 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:44.960 for samurai films. This was like a crime drama that 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:46.600 he did, which is why I thought it was weird 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:50.040 that Spike Lee was going to remake this. But if 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:53.800 you look at his last two remakes, they've been asked. 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:55.960 He redid Old Boy. 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:59.160 For no fucking reason, and it was trash. He redid 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:02.760 Ganja and hass As the Sweet Blood of Jesus, and 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:07.760 it was asked stop remaking films. He's such an amazing filmmaker. 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:13.480 Why are you tackling classic it? He's better with original 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:16.520 ideas this. I think he could have done this so 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:18.680 much better because the idea of taking this story and 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:22.400 making it black in New York was so interesting. 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:24.600 But the movie was not. Who was too New York too? 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:27.480 Like the subway ship was? That was terrible. Oh, I 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:30.760 fucked with the subway shit heavy. That was the best 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:34.520 part of the whole fucking movie. Huh. They were chanting? 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:38.839 That was you know that. She was amazing. I thought, 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:41.080 who is the guy? Who was? What? Guy? 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:43.120 The main guy that was like chanting, He's like the 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:45.040 leader of the chant He seemed familiar. 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:48.920 Well, you're talking about the one that was playing the music. 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:57.880 Guy that was like whatever, Yeah, I've seen him somewhere else, Anthony. 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:03.560 No, it was a white dude, white guy. You've probably 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:05.840 seen him as a Yankees fan. If I'm not mistake 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:09.240 that guy. He on the he's thank you for being 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:12.800 a fan. Okay, Yeah, I know I've seen him before. 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:19.640 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I watched it with the missus 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:21.840 and she didn't like twenty minutes and she was like yeah, 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:24.760 she told me after We was always like yeah, like 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:26.200 when it was all like what the fuck did I 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:26.720 just watch? 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:29.240 Like what is name? You just feel like that? Yeah, 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:29.480 it was. 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:32.440 It was really weird and it almost felt like there 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:35.760 were like he was trying to have two comers, two coms. 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:37.920 It was almost like it was about generations to a 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:42.440 certain degree. You know, this whole AI thing was in 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:46.000 it heavy. Uh, phones were in it heavy in the 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:48.280 beginning of the movies having a conversation with this Entrey 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:51.840 about phones and putting the phone down and you're always 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:54.319 in your phone and blah blah blah blah blah. And 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:56.440 then he said, put your phone down. I'm serious and 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:59.040 then he's by the hand of David or something whatever 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:00.760 that was strike down on the. 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:07.599 Trying to biblical this movie really m M. 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:11.280 And he was having a conversation too about I felt 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:14.240 like like more affluent black people to Jeffrey Wright's character 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:17.360 because we asked him, you had the money when it 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:19.120 was your child, but it's my child, you ain't got 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:22.880 the money. Yeah, Yeah, that could have been a really 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:26.360 interesting down They didn't that's. 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:29.680 How they really dug deep into that idea. 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:31.760 That was the main I feel like could have been 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.640 the main Like that's what I thought it was going 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:37.640 to be, because you know, Rick Fox was in he 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:39.040 was playing himself apparently. 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:42.840 So we get introduced to all of them, Trade Cole, 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:49.240 Rick Fox, the coach, the wife, David King, he's selling 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:53.200 his business, stacking his records, and he drops his kid off. 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:55.960 Then we meet Jeffrey Wright who's driving the car, who's 0:14:56.360 --> 0:15:01.800 was in jail apparently for something. And we meet Patrick, 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:04.640 who was his business partner with stacking his records. 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:06.680 And then he said to Patrick. 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:10.560 That he wants to buy his controlling interests by his 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:14.480 shares so he can just assume control of the label 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:17.480 and not stell sell to straight out records or something. 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:21.240 Like that, and and all that happens. 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:23.360 Then he goes talks to the wife and tells her 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:25.680 and blah blah blah blah blah. Uh. 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:27.840 So all that's in the beginning of the movie. 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:31.160 Anything in particular about the way they set this up 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:36.760 were just kind of Patrick, Hm, did you all reckonize Patrick? 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.080 The voice sounded familiar, but dude. 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:46.120 He was his part brother moves. 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:50.240 You can spot him by his nose. Nobody got of knows, 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:57.040 Like he was like, yes he can spell coff. 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:06.520 Yes, just what But this goes to Spike Lee because 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:10.120 Spike Lee's directing the that's the part that's surprising. 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:10.760 But I wasn't. 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:13.440 I was just saying I feel like Denzel probably was 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:15.760 adding some shit he had he had to it. 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:17.680 I don't think they had a solid script. 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:20.400 You think he directed, like do that ship with the 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:22.200 My thing is, even if he didn't direct him to 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:24.120 do that as a director, wouldn't you be like, nah, 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:24.920 I doesn't look right. 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:26.040 Don't do it again. 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:29.520 Without again without that, it was just bad. But no, 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:32.480 I didn't take ship from the beginning, okay, except that 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:34.440 he's a family man. And I was like, okay, they're 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:36.320 making this real black cool, let's see where it goes. 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:38.240 Yeah, I love you, love you more things? 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:42.920 Uh we we We learned that through the conversation with 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:46.680 the wife. Is that And I think there's another conversation 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:50.440 in the movie is about like the music business. Yeah, 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:53.680 and she's saying that he complains about the music business, 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:54.720 that he doesn't. 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:55.920 Love it the way he used to. 0:16:57.520 --> 0:16:59.760 So she had that that whole conversation about how the 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:05.280 music as soulless and it's about tech. But I was wondering, 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:08.840 I think, to a certain degree, music as when it 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:11.320 comes to the business, I've always been soulless. 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:15.280 Well not, I think that's hard work, very I. 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:17.080 Mean, if he's supposed to be a very Gordy type 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:23.600 or or or Quincy Jones type. I could see the 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:27.240 discussion when it comes to tech and being soulless. But 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:29.760 at no point did I even get the impression that 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:31.240 he gave a funk about music. 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:37.320 Us that No, Yeah, yeah, the best ears in the business. 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:38.520 Show us that. I mean, I know that plays into 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:39.280 the plot later on. 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:43.520 Yeah, show me him being enamored by music, show me 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:45.000 him being in love with music. 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:46.120 I didn't get that at all. 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:49.720 We should we we learned, but I think that's part 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:52.000 of the movie as we move on. 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:53.560 But we saw that it was the opposite. 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:57.280 Like his son kept asking him listen to Sula, which 0:17:57.320 --> 0:18:00.680 comes back around you know, hes supposed to have this playlist, 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:04.120 and you know, I think there was somebody outside performance, 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:06.439 so there were all these things music related that he 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:09.640 kept kind of casting aside exactly. 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:12.080 You know, Yeah, if you want to do that, then 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:14.640 show me, show me him like we saw Bill Cosby, 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:17.800 Show me he has a basement of jazz records, show 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:19.600 me him down there. Just I mean, we got the 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:21.680 hohld him talking to the fucking pictures on the wall, 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:24.960 which was corny as because show me him caring about music. 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:25.840 I didn't get that. 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:29.080 It was almost like he didn't care about music from 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:31.760 all the examples that they gave us until closer to 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:34.000 the end, because he when he walked to the building 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:36.520 and the lady that you said, did he walk off with? 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:39.800 Yeah, he walked off. The girl was playing the guitar. Yeah. 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:42.800 And the editing was so we couldn't tell if he 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:44.679 walked off or like, because she turned around and he 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:45.040 was girl. 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:46.800 I was like, well right, and then she went by 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:51.520 somewhere else. It was like, bloke out. I don't get it. 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:53.240 That was transport. 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:55.600 She went somewhere in his mind, and like, I just 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:58.480 didn't get there because he like he wanted to listen 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:00.440 to ye and the just. 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:01.800 I mean, I don't want to listen to it. 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:03.639 It seemed like his love was his legacy though in 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:06.480 business that was at the forefront, because I feel like 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:10.640 he put that put forward everything, even his friend's son 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:13.720 at that point, like his legacy and having that business. 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:17.280 That was his passion. It wasn't music. Like his wife said, Okay, 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:20.400 maybe I thought they were supposed to. I don't know. Okay, 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:24.000 you're probably right. Yeah they told us his love with 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:29.000 the music, but they showed us show yes, yeah, okay, yeah. 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:32.040 But so this happens and she's like, well, you know, 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:34.040 if you want to really buy it, like you're not 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:36.360 in love with the music anymore, why are you doing this? 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:39.280 Which I think she was right the question, But then 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:41.879 she gets called that he was kiddingapped, her son was 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:43.040 getting up, trade was getting up. 0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:44.920 I did like that point. I thought he got the call. 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:46.800 Yeah he got Yeah, I'm sorry. 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:49.360 They were on the balcony and you know, they had 0:19:49.400 --> 0:19:51.640 a moment and then she left. He got the call 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:55.480 and it didn't say anything, but you assume like, okay, 0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:56.479 what the hell is going on? 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:58.359 And he came in and said what he said. I 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:02.560 did like that excuse okay, we're going somewhere. But yeah, 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:04.919 he said they got trade. They like, wasn't mean they 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:05.440 got trade? 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:08.080 Talking about I was with her, I say, did they 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:11.280 shoot him? I mean got it was like he had warrant, Like, 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:14.919 what happened? They kidnapped him, They got him, they kidnapped him. 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:18.600 Can you imagine kidnapped as a seventeen year old. 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:23.679 Kidnapped by asap Rocky? That it was what I was 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:27.440 leading to. I ain't never seen nobody on a Rocky team. 0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:29.560 They could have kidnapped me at seventeen years old. 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:31.080 I don't know about that. You ain't seen his team 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:32.520 he got I'm talking about the ones in the movie. 0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:36.240 I'm sorry, sorry, sorry, I'm talking about the ones he 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:38.480 had in the movies Got Still the Bad. Yeah, no, 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:40.679 I'm sucking all them. I'm like, Bro, Ain's Rocky not 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:44.520 kidnapping me. Bro, Like, no, that's not happening. Really, It's 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:44.840 like he. 0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:50.920 Was like a king pin. You're a rapper, a struggling rapper. Yeah, 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:53.480 he didn't even have a job. This, this part could 0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:54.040 have been cool. 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:57.280 And again, this is one of those things where I 0:20:57.280 --> 0:20:59.280 wish it wouldn't have been called Highest the Lowest. I 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:01.160 wish he had just made a movie. And then later 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:03.640 on said he was inspired by High and Low. 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:06.960 Yes, yes, because. 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:09.120 I'm walking into this film knowing what happens in the original, 0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:13.520 knowing how amazingly that is laid out and done, and 0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:17.520