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Speaker 1: And grand Rising family in thanks for starting your week

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Speaker 1: with us this Columbus State twenty twenty five. Later, educator Hey,

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Speaker 1: doctor Keemick Shockley will be in our classroom. Doctor Sharkley

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Speaker 1: is also a film producer, will share valuable insights on

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Speaker 1: how to avoid the school to prison pipeline. But before

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Speaker 1: doctor Sharkley, Chicago community activist Richard Wallace from the Equity

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Speaker 1: and Transformation Transformation Group will detail their reaction to the

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Speaker 1: Trump Administration's attempt to deploy troops Honey City streets momentarily holistic.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Heru will join us. But let's get Kevin to

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Speaker 1: open the classroom doors. We got class on a holiday,

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Speaker 1: Kevin grand Rising.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, class is the second cousin to cool or style,

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Speaker 2: isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Your class is a second cousin to style. That's it.

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Speaker 2: And you've got style, my man. And how are you feeling,

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Speaker 2: Kyle Nelson?

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Speaker 1: I'm still learning, and I know I'm going to learn

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Speaker 1: a lot from doctor Heru coming up, and also from

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Speaker 1: doctor Kemmick Sharkley as well.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and indeed as well.

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Speaker 2: As you've got to take action on everything that you learn,

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Speaker 2: make sure you take action, take notes at least and

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Speaker 2: use it somehow, you know, on a daily basis is

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Speaker 2: a way I feel about that in my humble opinion,

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Speaker 2: Hey man, But tonight is the game, the command is

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Speaker 2: the Washington Washington Commanders rather will once again be without

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Speaker 2: the star receiver Terry McLaurin, which just I don't know,

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Speaker 2: is that karma? You know, all of that noise he

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Speaker 2: made in the preseason, and you know now he's got

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Speaker 2: the check.

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Speaker 3: But now you know, health is your wealth exactly.

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Speaker 1: You know, health is always your wealth.

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Speaker 3: And it's usually people that don't have a lot of

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Speaker 3: money that.

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Speaker 1: Say that, right, because if you have the money, you

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Speaker 1: can buy the best to health care that's out.

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Speaker 2: There, exactly, and you know, get the best lawyers that

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Speaker 2: help you settle a deal like this one that he's got.

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Speaker 2: So now he can sit back and you know he

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Speaker 2: doesn't have to worry about what the rest of the

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Speaker 2: Commanders will be going through tonight. Head coach Dan Quinn

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Speaker 2: ruled McLaren and fellow Ride receiver Noah Brown out for

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Speaker 2: tonight's game, and they will be shorthanded for a receiver.

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Speaker 2: Then there's d Bo Samuel who's been playing pretty well,

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Speaker 2: but there's a game time decision with he has a

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Speaker 2: You know, we're taught to do things sequentially, you know

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Speaker 2: don't know, shake before opening, you know that kind of thing,

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Speaker 2: whereas in professional sports it's not sequential. You know, if

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Speaker 2: start before you know you're playing, how prepared do you

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Speaker 2: have have to be?

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Speaker 3: What kind of mental toughness is that?

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Speaker 1: Right? But you know what's inestramat tonight's game, it's sort

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Speaker 1: of a homecoming for the Bears quarterback Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams. Yeah, Yeah, he's coming home tonight. Isn't that

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Speaker 2: He was he grew up here in DC, of course,

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Speaker 2: other Bears players from DC include former wide receiver Josh

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Speaker 1: Well, it's the matter up they're going to be watching

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure Caleb probably have life to play for Washington,

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Speaker 1: But on the other side, our friends up the road,

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Speaker 1: Kevin in Baltimore, they got some problems. Their quarterback has

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was trying not to turn that knife on

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Speaker 1: You know, speaking about let me tell me speaking about

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Speaker 1: They're playing the Cowboys. Oh that was really yeah, and

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Speaker 2: Still you know, there's still the rivalry. For some reason,

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Speaker 2: the burgundy and gold banner there, you know, hey, look good.

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Speaker 2: In other news, the White slams Trump's perceived Nobel Peace

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Speaker 2: Prize snub as politics over peace. The President is truly

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Speaker 2: deeply mad and his desire for the Nobel Peace Prize

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Speaker 2: has been rejected, and he's denounced the Norwegian Nobel Committee's decision.

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Speaker 2: And so I guess he won't let Maria Karina Mochado,

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Speaker 2: the Nobel Committee proved they placed politics over peace.

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Speaker 3: According to Stephen.

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Speaker 2: and Trump will continue making peace deals though anyway, ending

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Speaker 1: He wrote, So what do you think of that? Well,

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Speaker 1: a couple of things. Once, she's a trump st too.

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Speaker 1: some people say she's take her make her acception speech

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Speaker 1: in Spanish since she's you know, he's somehow feigning an

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Speaker 1: something else. And as we speak, Donald Trump is speaking

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Speaker 1: to hear on the news today. They've released the hostages Kevin,

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Speaker 1: Trump speeding and taking his bow and a victor in

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Speaker 1: because for the Palestins, they still want a two state

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Speaker 1: who moved the US embassy from tel Aviv. Tel Aviv

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Speaker 1: The Palacinis said Jerusalem was their capital of Palestine. So

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Speaker 1: and that's a that's a big argument right there. But

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Speaker 1: that's on the table, if he's going to push them

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Speaker 2: Is it still possible that he could get the Nobel

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he could because one of the things they said,

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Speaker 1: because they already had made their decision. It's you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously he didn't do his homework and so know that.

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Speaker 1: But for next year, twenty twenty six, he'll be a

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Speaker 2: His daughter in law Laura Trump said that the committed

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Speaker 2: Nobel Peace Prize Committee is suffering from Trump derangement syndrome.

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Speaker 1: Whatever, what you know what I wonder how well, let's

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Speaker 1: when the government government shut down and a lot of

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Speaker 1: they're not getting their checks. Even though today's a holiday,

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Speaker 1: it's a federal holiday. So the banks, the schools, everything's closed.

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Speaker 1: But the last time the government shut down, he said

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Speaker 1: the question that those people who have been furloughed. Oh

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Speaker 2: And then there's also a concern that thousands, tens of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, we're going to talk about healthy

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Speaker 1: It's that's taking place.

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Speaker 2: Well, what about this claim that the presidents said they're

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Speaker 2: the troops, and military members won't get their next paycheck,

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Speaker 1: Well, because he was getting heat. See, he wants to

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Speaker 1: what the Democrats said, Well, call the silver the troops

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Speaker 1: let's work it out. So he says he's gonna he's

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Speaker 1: that would be a coup for the Democrats if the

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna get out of your way this Monday

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Speaker 2: and we've got doctor Harus then to buy He's on

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Speaker 6: Right, So, I mean karma is a philosophical world view

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Speaker 6: Yeah, let's just say that if it's in a box,

436
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Speaker 6: it's on a shelf, it's not being refrigerated. It has

437
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Speaker 6: been engineered for a long shelf life, which also means

438
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Speaker 6: that it is going to be deleterious to your health

439
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Speaker 6: because it's refined grains, refined foods, and vegetable oils which

440
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Speaker 6: were not meant for healing consumption. Vegetable oils were originally

441
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Speaker 6: made to be lubricant or machine industrial machine equipment. Anyone

442
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Speaker 6: can look this up just the history of vegetable oils

443
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Speaker 6: and the process of these sea eat oils being made

444
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Speaker 6: requires hecxanes, which are toxic. Also increases the output of

445
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Speaker 6: lunolaic acid, which is responsible for causing chronic inflammation. So,

446
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Speaker 6: because you've got chronic information from the food that you're

447
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Speaker 6: eating once twice, three, four, five times a day, you're

448
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 6: always triggering an event where your body is trying to

449
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Speaker 6: adjust to a foreign invader. Because it's food that was

450
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Speaker 6: made in the laboratory. They have natural bodies, and so

451
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Speaker 6: we're made to eat natural foods, and so the constant

452
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Speaker 6: bombardment of your body of these processed foods is creating

453
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Speaker 6: a body imbalance, which they then call a sickness. So

454
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Speaker 6: what's happening is you're eating food that has no nutritional

455
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Speaker 6: value and then you're eating food that is actually causing

456
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Speaker 6: you inflammatory responses. So you've got a double whamming. You're

457
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Speaker 6: not getting nutrition what you're eating, and then what you're

458
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Speaker 6: eating is causing inflammation. And as we know, the majority

459
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Speaker 6: of diseases and with the word itis and itis is

460
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Speaker 6: simply Latin for inflammation. So they've let you know the

461
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Speaker 6: majority of diseases are inflammatory based diseases. What happens if

462
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Speaker 6: your whole food supply through processed foods is a cause

463
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Speaker 6: of inflammation. This is why you have these diseases, heart disease, diabetes, cancer,

464
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Speaker 6: autoimmune diseases because they're inflammatory based diseases. Every time that

465
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Speaker 6: you eat these foods they are the frankin foods, foods

466
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Speaker 6: that are made and laboratories, they are in boxes that

467
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Speaker 6: last for a year long, you are causing yourself to

468
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Speaker 6: go further down the path of high blood pressure, which

469
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Speaker 6: is inflammatory based disease. It's inflammation of the are to

470
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Speaker 6: your walls, diabetes, inflammation of the liver and the pancreas,

471
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Speaker 6: feeding yourself food that converts into sugar within twenty minutes

472
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Speaker 6: of digestion, and you've got the sugar running all through

473
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Speaker 6: your other causing inflammation, thereby causing high blood pressure. So

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Speaker 6: if we understand these mechanisms, we start staying away from

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Speaker 6: these foods and we start eating foods that are not

476
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Speaker 6: in boxes and foods that are natural, made from Mother Nature.

477
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Speaker 6: That is the key. So what we've been able to

478
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Speaker 6: see is the diet is a huge aspect of this

479
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Speaker 6: health puzzle that we're dealing with, and that if people

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Speaker 6: just were trained about what the right foods were and

481
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Speaker 6: what the bad foods were, and made to stay away

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Speaker 6: from these foods, many of these health problems would dissolve

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Speaker 6: on their own. They would be reversed on their own,

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Speaker 6: just by having a nutritious diet devoid of processed, chemicalized foods.

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Speaker 3: Now, doctor Haru, you said, look it up, So I

486
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Speaker 3: looked it up.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 2: Vegetable oil begins six thousand years an ancient world with olives,

489
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Speaker 2: flex seed oil for cooking, lighting, medicine, and yes, eventually

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Speaker 2: for lubrication of machines.

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Speaker 3: But you were saying, isn't that from nature? Though?

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Speaker 2: Isn't that the olive from nature, the sessame, what are

493
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Speaker 2: your thoughts on that?

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Speaker 6: No, so it's the processing. But people have to understand

495
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Speaker 6: is that when we talk about vegetable oils, they're talking

496
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Speaker 6: about vegetable seed oils. They are vegetables. There are oils

497
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Speaker 6: made vegetables that come from the fruit that are healthy,

498
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Speaker 6: So that would be the olive oil, that would be

499
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Speaker 6: palm oil, that would be coconut oil. Those are healthy

500
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Speaker 6: because they come from the fruit. But when it comes

501
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Speaker 6: from the seed, it goes through a very extreme processing,

502
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Speaker 6: chemicalized procedure, and this procedure leaves the so called oil

503
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Speaker 6: to be toxic. So these seed oils would be corn oil,

504
00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 6: soybean oil, sunflour seed oil, canola oil, which is rape

505
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Speaker 6: seed oil. So these seed oils can be extremely dangerous

506
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Speaker 6: by the way that there may because it's not cold press.

507
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Speaker 6: So you want to look for cold pressed oil oil

508
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Speaker 6: that has not been made through heavy processing of the

509
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Speaker 6: seeds through haxane. So people should just look it up

510
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 6: vegetable oil lubricant for machine equipment. When we're talking about

511
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Speaker 6: that vegetableil, we're talking about the more modern refined vegetable

512
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Speaker 6: seed oils and not oil from the fruit of the tree.

513
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Speaker 6: Those are two fine distinctions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a guy named Rudolph.

515
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Speaker 2: Rudolph Diesel started experimenting with vegetable oil to use it

516
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Speaker 2: for engines, to fuel engines and to lubricate.

517
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Speaker 3: And how is that possible?

518
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Speaker 2: How is it possible that something from nature could be

519
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Speaker 2: turned into something that fuels an engine.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so right now you know diesel oil can actually

521
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Speaker 6: be made from coconut oil. There's actually a movie called

522
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Speaker 6: The Coconut Revolution. The Coconut Revolution talks about the island

523
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Speaker 6: of Papaout, New Guinea and where there is some type

524
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Speaker 6: of fighting against the Indonesian government which is seeking to

525
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Speaker 6: control pop Out New Guinea and the people of Papau

526
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Speaker 6: New Guinea have been cut off from a lot of

527
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Speaker 6: importing of goods into their island due to blockade, and

528
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Speaker 6: they run their cars with coconut oil. There's a way

529
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Speaker 6: to use vegetable oils to actually run cars through what

530
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Speaker 6: is called a desterization process. For these oils like restaurant oil,

531
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Speaker 6: can be converted over into diesel fuel. It's just a

532
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Speaker 6: scientific process called desterization. So Mother Nature can be used

533
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Speaker 6: for so many things you can actually use, You can

534
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Speaker 6: use palm oil for eesel as well, and there's palm

535
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Speaker 6: kernel oil. And I've done some of these experiments on

536
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Speaker 6: my own where you can actually use natural plant derivatives

537
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Speaker 6: from the environment to turn into oil, particularly diel oil.

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Speaker 1: Twenty five away from the top there with I guess

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Speaker 1: the holistic doctor herew. Doctor Herew has a protocol that

540
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Speaker 1: reverses cancer. Doctor Heru. I know we come upon a break,

541
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Speaker 1: but tell us how did you did you stumble on

542
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Speaker 1: this this protocol that you made or did you set

543
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Speaker 1: out to find a way to reverse cancer?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so you know, I have a science background, you know,

545
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Speaker 6: a degree in biology and also psychology, and I was

546
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 6: used to being in labs and doing experiments. And in

547
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Speaker 6: twenty twelve I came across the documentary called Run from

548
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Speaker 6: the Cure. Anyone can see it. You can go to

549
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Speaker 6: Rumble or any you know place online put it un

550
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 6: secure documentary. They have it on YouTube, and it's about

551
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 6: a gentleman out of Canada called Rick Simpson who had

552
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Speaker 6: been helping people reverse their cancer with cannabis oil. And

553
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 6: this documentary came out in twenty twelve. We had many

554
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Speaker 6: people doing testimonials. I started looking at it and saw

555
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Speaker 6: that there was research from all over the world about

556
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Speaker 6: cannabis and the endocannabinoid system and cancer, and I thought

557
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Speaker 6: that this was so fascinating and that the world should

558
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 6: have actually stopped. They should have been mainstream news. But

559
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Speaker 6: of course it was never made available to the general public.

560
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Speaker 6: And so I started doing experiments on extraction of cannaba

561
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Speaker 6: nooids from oil, and what I found was that there

562
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Speaker 6: were some problems with cannabis oil in terms of being

563
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Speaker 6: able to navigate the laws. Cannabis is still Schedule one

564
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Speaker 6: drug and also a lot of people can't handle the high.

565
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Speaker 6: But when you learn the mechanism and action, it is

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Speaker 6: a stimulates immune systems, white blood cells and killer T

567
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Speaker 6: cells to find cancer cells and kill them. And this

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Speaker 6: has been old.

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Speaker 1: That's all right there, Doc. We got to step aside

570
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Speaker 1: and check the news, traffic, weather in a different cities

571
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Speaker 1: for us. Look at the news this morning. When you

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Speaker 1: come back, though, pick up that story right there. Because

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Speaker 1: is it the compromising of the immune system that leads

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Speaker 1: causes all the health challenges that we have. I'll let

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Speaker 1: you expound on that when we get back. Family. Do

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Speaker 1: you've got a question about it? A health question? Some

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Speaker 1: person you need to speak with. His name is doctor Heru.

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Speaker 1: He's a holistic doctor. You can reach him at eight

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Speaker 1: hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll

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Speaker 1: take your phone calls. After the news, traffic and weather.

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Speaker 1: That's next, And Grant Rising family, thanks for waking up

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Speaker 1: with us on this Monday morning, Indigenous People's Day. It's

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Speaker 1: a federal holiday. That means the schools are closed, banks

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Speaker 1: are closed, and all federal workers, if they weren't furloughed

585
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Speaker 1: or off there, they're really off today. Hopefully they'll get

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Speaker 1: paid real soon. I guess this morning is doctor Herou.

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Speaker 1: Doctor is a naturopathic doctor and he specializes in reversing cancer.

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Speaker 1: Before we go back to let me remind you come up.

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Speaker 1: Later this morning, we're gonna speak with doctor Kenmick Scharcoley.

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Speaker 1: He's an educator and also from the Equity and Transformation Group.

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Speaker 1: Richard Wallace out of Chicago's gonna join us and let

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Speaker 1: us know what he thinks about these troops that Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump has federalized to patrol his streets. And also late

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Speaker 1: this week we're gonna we're gonna speak with doctor Willie Wilson.

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Speaker 1: We're going to discuss the anniversary of the million Man March.

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Speaker 1: He was an integral part of that, along with doctor

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Speaker 1: Milana Kurenga. He's one of the two persons that Minister

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Speaker 1: Farcom called first when he decided to do this. In fact,

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Speaker 1: doctor Krenga wrote the manuscript for the manifesto, I should

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Speaker 1: say for the milliam Man March. Also Chairman Fred Hampton's

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Speaker 1: gonna join us. Chiirman Fred, just let us know that

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Speaker 1: they desecrated doctor King's eternal flame in Chicago. You know

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Speaker 1: the King Center in Chicago, there's an eternal flame right there,

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Speaker 1: and somebody went over there and knocked out the flame.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully they got cameras and we'll find out who did that.

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Speaker 1: And also the civil rights activis attorney Jerald Jones is

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Speaker 1: going to joints because they're trying to eliminate the nineteen

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Speaker 1: sixty five Civil Rights Rule if you will, I call it,

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Speaker 1: just call it a rule, and some people call it

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Speaker 1: the law if it's overturn it. They're going to have

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Speaker 1: oral hearings starting on Wednesday, and Darryl and his group's

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Speaker 1: going to be on Capitol Hill protesting. So if you're

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Speaker 1: in the DMV, keep you radio locked in tight on

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Speaker 1: ten ten WLB, if you're in the IF Baltimore Row,

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Speaker 1: if you're in the DMV though around FM ninety five

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Speaker 1: point nine and AM fourteen fifty w L. All right,

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Speaker 1: doctor Rue, you talked about the immune system. You attack

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Speaker 1: on the immune system is the fact that we should

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Speaker 1: all try to figure out a way or to fortify

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Speaker 1: our immune system so that we can stave off all

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Speaker 1: these health challenges.

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Speaker 6: Yes, immune system is absolutely important. With the low immune system,

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Speaker 6: you're subject to opportunistic infections, you're subject to insulin resistance,

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Speaker 6: your body just goes to put you out of whack,

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Speaker 6: and all of this natural defensive mechanisms are depleted. And

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Speaker 6: so then the question is, well, what are the thing

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Speaker 6: necessary for a good immune system. It would be vitamin

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Speaker 6: D three plus K two. It would be magnesium, zinc, insolenium.

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Speaker 6: Those are the main things that the immune system needs.

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Speaker 6: It's not, you know, the only things that the immune

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Speaker 6: system is, but those are the main things that the

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Speaker 6: immune system needs. And most people with the immune system

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Speaker 6: weaknesses are vitamin D deficient and magnesium deficient, especially along

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Speaker 6: with zinc deficiency and selenium deficiency. And so we solve

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Speaker 6: for that that's why we created urban results. What we

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Speaker 6: did is that we saw that these were things that

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Speaker 6: were missing in the average person's mineral profile that is

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Speaker 6: causing a depleted immune system. And so we make our

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Speaker 6: own magnesium zinc selenium capsules for people, and we made

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Speaker 6: sure we add no fillers to our products, so it's

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Speaker 6: one hundred percent exactly what we say it is. And

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Speaker 6: we also have violin D three plus K two that

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Speaker 6: we made especially because we know that many of our

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Speaker 6: people are absolutely deficient.

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Speaker 9: In these things.

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Speaker 6: And so when you supplement with vitamin D three plus

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Speaker 6: K two magnesums in casileni and you just raise and

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Speaker 6: boost your immale system, please keep the mind. Based on

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Speaker 6: your question, Carl, the Censors for Disease Control says that

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Speaker 6: the months of December, January, and February are the highest

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Speaker 6: months of all caused mortality. I mean, those are the

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Speaker 6: months where the most people die of anything in everything.

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Speaker 6: And they call it flu season. But if this was

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Speaker 6: really a system that was meant to educate you, they

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Speaker 6: would let you know it's not flu season. Those months.

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Speaker 6: Those are the coldest months of the year. Those are

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Speaker 6: the months of the year with the least amount of

658
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Speaker 6: sunshine because they turn the clock black. It gets dark earlier,

659
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Speaker 6: you get left sunshine. It's cold, so people aren't outside

660
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Speaker 6: as much getting the sun from which they would be

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Speaker 6: able to get let them in d from and guess

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Speaker 6: what happened. Vitamin D levels are completely destroyed during those

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Speaker 6: winter months, and those are the months of the highest

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Speaker 6: cause mortality because people's immune systems are gone for those months.

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Speaker 6: They call it lack of they call it flu seasons.

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Speaker 6: There's actually lack of vitamin D season. The immune system

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Speaker 6: is completely compromised during those months. That's why most people

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Speaker 6: died during those months, not because people are walking on

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Speaker 6: ice and slipping and bumping their heads. It's actually because

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Speaker 6: people's immune systems are most completed during those winter months.

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Speaker 6: So this is very all right.

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Speaker 1: What you're going to ask you this, that's interesting what

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Speaker 1: you just said at twelve minutes away from the top

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Speaker 1: of Does that mean though the folks who live in

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Speaker 1: the northeast will have more health challenges than people who

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Speaker 1: live in the south.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, you know, they've had studies, you know, just comparing

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Speaker 6: you know, black folks who you know move from tropical

679
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Speaker 6: places like the Caribbean or Africa into places like Europe,

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Speaker 6: particularly places like Scandinavia where you know, the winters are

681
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Speaker 6: long and brutal and very little sunshine, while people with

682
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Speaker 6: darker skin tend to develop rickets. Rickets is a bone

683
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Speaker 6: and mineral deficiency due to lack of vitamin D three.

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Speaker 6: So these health outcomes are seen within populations when people

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Speaker 6: don't get enough sunlight and have low degrees of vitamin

686
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Speaker 6: D is directly related with rates of cancer. Low vitamin D.

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Speaker 6: You know, we have studies on our website on ogoosonf

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Speaker 6: dot net where there's a study under our science section

689
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Speaker 6: of the website on vitamin D three and gets what

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Speaker 6: that study says called. It says that vitamin D three

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Speaker 6: levels of fifty if people would have just had vitamin

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Speaker 6: D three levels fifty nanograms from leader during COVID, the

693
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Speaker 6: death rate could have theoretically been cut to zero. The

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Speaker 6: reason is that vitamin D which they call a vitamins,

695
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Speaker 6: actually a hormone. That one of the things it does

696
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Speaker 6: in terms of just feeding your immune system the proper nutrition.

697
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Speaker 6: Are providing the proper nutrition for your immune system, Well

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Speaker 6: guess what it actually is responsible for controlling inflammation in

699
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Speaker 6: the respiratory system in your lungs. That's vitamin D. Vitamin

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Speaker 6: D plays a pusher role in control inflammation whether people

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Speaker 6: die was die of an inflammatory response and the lungs

702
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Speaker 6: due to Star's cove too. So vitamin D was an

703
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Speaker 6: important nutrient that was left out during COVID and they

704
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Speaker 6: actually told you to do the oppositility stay inside. They

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Speaker 6: kept people nursing homes with COVID inside when they should

706
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Speaker 6: have been outside receiving some light. They closed the b

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Speaker 6: to the parks, people you know, doing outdoor activities, and

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Speaker 6: told you to stay inside when people should have been

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Speaker 6: actually outside getting some light. So there's a lot of

710
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 6: work to do. There's a lot of research that was done,

711
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 6: and there's a lot of research done at urbal results,

712
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Speaker 6: particularly on this thing that we're calling cancer, finding out

713
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 6: that there is actually a whole body of knowledge and

714
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Speaker 6: research studies showing the relationship between parasites and cancer. And

715
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 6: we took it very seriously and we started seeing that

716
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 6: parasites and cancer feed from the same two sources. The

717
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Speaker 6: main source for parasites and cancer of fuel is glucose.

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Speaker 6: This is documented all throughout scientific studies. There's a great

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Speaker 6: book called Cancers and Metabolic disease by doctor Thomas E.

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Speaker 6: Free and he shows that all cancers only feed off

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Speaker 6: of two main things, glucose and then secondarily glutamine, and

722
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Speaker 6: if we shut off the glucose more times than not

723
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Speaker 6: that cancer dies tis the cancer will switch over to glutamine,

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Speaker 6: and you can start off glutamine with natural herbs. So

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Speaker 6: what we've done in Herbal Results is that we've also

726
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Speaker 6: because we've been getting these great results cancer reversals. Anyone

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Speaker 6: can check us out on Herbal Results dot net and

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00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 6: go to the testimonials page. You'll see a whole section

729
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Speaker 6: at the top of people from all over the world

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Speaker 6: who have reversed their cancer with Herbal Results products and

731
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Speaker 6: protocol and the protocols in our book. It's on our website.

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Speaker 6: It's called The Successful Eradication of Cancer using an Intracellular

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Speaker 6: Parasite Theory. There's a downloadable ebook. No matter where you

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Speaker 6: live in the world, you can get it and download

735
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 6: it immediately and have it on your phone and have

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Speaker 6: it on your laptop. In chapter three, it's the full protocol.

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Speaker 6: But before you do that, you should spend some time

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Speaker 6: on the testimonial page and really watch these interviews. These

739
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 6: are not thirty seconds, Miippet. You know these are one

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Speaker 6: hour two hour inn is with people who had cancer

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Speaker 6: ranging from prostate cancer stage three esophageal cancer where the

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Speaker 6: gentleman was given ninety days to live. Back Richardson, we

743
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Speaker 6: have liver cancer stage four with age nods. We have

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Speaker 6: that cancer expect from liver to a kidneys and different

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Speaker 6: parts of the bodies. We've gotten that reversal full reversals,

746
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Speaker 6: by the way, and we're talking about men like Rodney Merriwether,

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Speaker 6: The's prostate cancer reversed within two months when he tells

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Speaker 6: his story. We've got breast cancer reversals, we've got lung

749
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Speaker 6: cancer reversals, brain cancer reversals, and it just runs the gamut.

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Speaker 6: And people should really take some time and check out

751
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Speaker 6: what we're doing in the way of providing evidence that,

752
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 6: by the way, no other medical institutions actually provide that

753
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Speaker 6: evidence where they say this is what we've done for cancer.

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Speaker 6: And here there were burl of people that you can

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Speaker 6: look up, call contact and speak to them about their

756
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 6: cancer reversal due to our procedures or due to our intervention. Instead,

757
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Speaker 6: the World Health Organization is telling you that the rates

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Speaker 6: of cancer will either double or go up by seventy

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Speaker 6: percent via the year twenty fifty. They're telling you that,

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Speaker 6: based on their approach, cancer is going to get worse.

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Speaker 6: The rates are going to double in the next twenty

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Speaker 6: five years. What I'm telling you is that if you

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Speaker 6: start to see an increase in a disease, that means

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Speaker 6: that whatever interventions they're doing is not enough for and

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Speaker 6: not adequate. So we've looked at it do a different

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Speaker 6: orthodoxy of thought, and what we're saying is that we'll

767
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 6: look at cancer as a parasite, treating you asthmus. The

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Speaker 6: three part protocol is starving the cancer of what it

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Speaker 6: likes for fuel, which is mainly glucose. So that's changing

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Speaker 6: your diet to what is known as a ketogenic diet.

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00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 6: This is a diet low in carbohydrates. You eliminate process

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Speaker 6: carbohydrates we find carbohydrates and sugar. You eliminate vegetable oils

773
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Speaker 6: from your life, so you stop feeding the cancer inflammation, and.

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Speaker 4: Then you.

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Speaker 6: Address the immune system. You address the immune system or

776
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Speaker 6: supplementation of vitamin D three, K two, zink, magnesium, selenium,

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Speaker 6: and then step three you take anti parasitics of which

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00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 6: we developed our own olive the extract. They's been working

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Speaker 6: very well. We have people on the website who only

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Speaker 6: took all of these extract and make gotten reversus in cancer.

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Speaker 6: And very interestingly enough, Carlo and.

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Speaker 1: At doctor Haruvi got tep side and get the ladies

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Speaker 1: of traffic and with them we come back. Though. Tell

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Speaker 1: us how how potent your protocol is, because you know

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Speaker 1: there's a report that that former President Joe Biden his

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Speaker 1: cancer's mathesta size since moving into his bones. At what

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Speaker 1: stage can you appro protocol help? Because could your protocol

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Speaker 1: help him? Or is he too far gone? Or is

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Speaker 1: he is it's just for stage one and two or

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Speaker 1: is it for stage three or four. I'll let you

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Speaker 1: explain that when we get back. Family, you two can

792
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Speaker 1: jump in on this conversation with our guest doctor Heru.

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Speaker 1: Reach out to us at eight hundred four five zero

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Speaker 1: seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your phone calls

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00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: after the traff and weather update that's next and Grant

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Speaker 1: rising family, thanks to waking up with us on this

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Speaker 1: Indigenous People's Day some people still call it Columbus Day.

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00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: It's a federal holiday. Schools are closed, banks are closed,

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Speaker 1: the all federal government's closed, so you won't be getting

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Speaker 1: any mail today. Our guess is doctor Heru. Doctor Heru

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Speaker 1: is a holistic doctor and he specializes in reversing cancer.

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00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: And so doctor Eru, I'll let you finish your thought

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Speaker 1: at first, and then we got some folks we'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Carl, can you hear me?

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Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 6: Yes? So you asked, has the protocol been successful for

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Speaker 6: different stages of cancer? And the answer is yes, we've

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Speaker 6: been successful in reversing stage one to stage four cancer,

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Speaker 6: and we have the evidence on our website. Right, We're

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Speaker 6: very big on evidence, So we have the evidence on

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Speaker 6: our website. And you will see stage four cancer reversal.

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Speaker 6: She see about five of them on there, and I

814
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 6: can call the names. You can see Zach Richardson, who

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Speaker 6: was given ninety days to live with the Sofa gil cancer.

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Speaker 6: You'll see him there. You'll see Renee Dinard, who's a

817
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 6: recent reversal for liver cancer, stage four menistatic liver cancer.

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00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 6: She was given six months to live in February of

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Speaker 6: this year, and on August she went to see her doctor,

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Speaker 6: which was actually the date of when she was supposed

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Speaker 6: to actually be deceased, and you know, her doctor ends

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Speaker 6: up telling her your liver, your kidneys, everything looks fine,

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Speaker 6: no cancer. And she's seventy six years old and she

824
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Speaker 6: feels as young as when she was in her thirties.

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Speaker 6: And that interview was on the website, and we have

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Speaker 6: Ron Bush stage four cancer metastasized from the lungs to

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Speaker 6: the brain and too the bones and then he's cancer free.

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Speaker 6: And you know there's there's more that people can just

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Speaker 6: look on the website. Stage three prostate cancer reversal with

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Speaker 6: Crawford Peterson, where ninety percent of his prostate was covered

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Speaker 6: with tumors. His PSA number was one point fifty one

832
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 6: and within three months went down to point one. The

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Speaker 6: stage three and deometrial cancer reversal with our demetriu and

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Speaker 6: cervical cancer reversal with to be a utunde, And you

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Speaker 6: know that's covered and we recently Carl had a conference

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Speaker 6: called the Eradicate Conference in Atlanta this Saturday, this past Saturday,

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Speaker 6: the eleventh, and I gave electron reversing high blood pressure

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Speaker 6: and diabetes with the bonus where we had four cancer

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Speaker 6: patients who are no longer cancer patients who are free

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Speaker 6: from cancer and you know, did not take chemotherapy or

841
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 6: radiation or surgery. And they came and they told their stories.

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Speaker 6: One of them did take some chemotherapy, but she didn't

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Speaker 6: take it every day like she was supposed to. And

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Speaker 6: she had stage four cancer own her lungs with nodes

845
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Speaker 6: and brains. And the cancer is completely gone from her

846
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Speaker 6: lungs and ninety percent gone from her lift nodes and

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Speaker 6: we're working on the brain tumor right now. But you know,

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Speaker 6: before she started protocols, she could not breathe very well

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Speaker 6: because her lungs were riddled with tumors. Those tumors are

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00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 6: now gone. And she told her story, and we had,

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Speaker 6: you know, two prostate cancer reversal stories. And so what

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Speaker 6: we're doing for providing levels of evidence in the form

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Speaker 6: of human receipts when we give lectures. So when I

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00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 6: give lectures now, you know you're going to you know

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Speaker 6: more than likely have someone there present who has done

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Speaker 6: you know, my protocol for cancer high blood press or

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Speaker 6: die and they can tell their stories. And by the way,

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Speaker 6: all of our cancer patients that we had who were

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Speaker 6: no longer cancer patients because their cancer free also had

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Speaker 6: a high blood questioning diabetes, and they told their stories

861
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 6: how their doctors couldn't believe what their blood panels looked like.

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Speaker 6: After just doing the protocol for a few months, their

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Speaker 6: diabetes went away, their cancer went away, and their high

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Speaker 6: blood qusure went away.

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Speaker 1: And they told me right there, Yeah, who I thought,

866
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 1: right there, because I got one of your patients calling

867
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:32,240
Speaker 1: in from Jersey. Kwanda hope on pronouncing any name correctly.

868
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: If I'm not, I apologize, and you can, you can,

869
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: you know, just announce yourself for our listeners. But Grand Rising,

870
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: welcome to the program.

871
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, Green Rise. And this is quite Joe. So it's

872
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 4: quite Joe. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, what's up?

873
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 6: Brother?

874
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 4: Hey, Elie Man, Hey Man blackpastic So yeah, I wanted

875
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 4: to call in. Hey Ruth talked about recipts. I wanted

876
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 4: to have a live receipt calling. I'm one of the

877
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 4: Ruth's living testimonies. I'm on the site as well. Quado Tocombo,

878
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 4: we've had cancer, what a man, it's been two years ago.

879
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 4: I did the protocol herew all three phases. I think

880
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 4: it's very important, all three phases of the protocol, back of.

881
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: It by the Quadjo So what kind of cancer was it?

882
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: When will you diagnosed?

883
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 4: Sorry, I'm sorry, prostate cancer into twenty twenty three. Yeah,

884
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three prostate cancer. I think it was stage one.

885
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 4: It didn't spread, so yeah, stage one.

886
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,439
Speaker 1: And then you started a protocol. So how soon did

887
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 1: he work for you? At what point did you see that, Wow,

888
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: this things are actually feeling better. This thing must be working.

889
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 4: First, the first thing I started to notice, So I

890
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 4: dropped eighty pounds. Eighty pounds in about five months. I

891
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 4: think it was the first thing I started noticing, and

892
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 4: people started noticing me was the first thing. You know,

893
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 4: you look younger. What are you doing? You're aging backwards?

894
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 4: Was going on and stuff like that. More energetic, you know, because,

895
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 4: like her said, I was focused on the cancer, but

896
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 4: it was other things underlying things that when I changed

897
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 4: my diet and really changed my mentality towards eating, when

898
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 4: I started seeing direct results immediately, immediately I started seeing

899
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 4: results in terms of just my energy.

900
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: Well, we'll share we'll share that with us. This is

901
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: interesting to hear family this. This is one of a

902
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: doctor here's clients. So he had these a cancer survivor

903
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,399
Speaker 1: if they still use that term. It's eight minutes after

904
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: the top of afagur stonch doctor herou Uh. It works

905
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: in reversing cancer and this is one of his clients

906
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: of callings from New Jersey. So, so explain, because you

907
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: said you started when you started seeing a difference when

908
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: you change your diet, what did you stop eating and

909
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: what did you start eating?

910
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought I was. I thought I was eating healthy, right,

911
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 4: I didn't eat you know, I don't eat meat. I

912
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 4: haven't eaten meat for years, So I thought I was

913
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 4: quote unquote being healthy. But what I was doing, I

914
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 4: was actually eating pasta. And I was eating pastaves like

915
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 4: nobody's business because I thought, Okay, this is safe, I'll

916
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 4: eat just eat pasta and you know, but I didn't

917
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 4: know about the impact of the carbohydrates turning into sugar.

918
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 4: I was still eating vegetables, feed oils. I heard earlier

919
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 4: you talked about feet oils. We were still using feed oils.

920
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 4: So I'm thinking, you know, we're eating healthy. So once

921
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 4: I understood what actually that was happening inside my body,

922
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 4: I made that change. That's when I started feeling the

923
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 4: immediate immediate change in my bone, like I had ace

924
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 4: and pains in my back and my legs, and that

925
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 4: it just went away, just went away. So yeah, so

926
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 4: you know what.

927
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: And that's just interesting though a brother, I thought, so, doctor,

928
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: who do we need a dietician man to kickstart the protocol?

929
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 6: No, because most dieticians are trained incorrectly to trade based

930
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 6: on the American food pyramid. When you need it, you

931
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 6: need to just use Google and use your smartphone. Everyone

932
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,919
Speaker 6: should learn how to use their smartphone in their smart way,

933
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 6: and that means that we have access to the libraries

934
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 6: of the world and just google ketogenic diet. Ketogenic diet

935
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 6: is the diet that you need that is not going

936
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 6: to feed cancer. It's very important and you can just

937
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 6: even google ketogenic diet and cancer. You'll see studies after

938
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 6: studies after studies on how that diet is a diet

939
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 6: that ends up starving cancer selves. And this is what

940
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 6: happened with brother Kojo. And so when he started doing that,

941
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 6: it started dealing with all of his metabolic problems, the

942
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 6: cancer part. The brother was dealing with you being overweight,

943
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,760
Speaker 6: being sluggish, having you know, other issues, and that diet

944
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 6: part was addressed and the brother was serious. And this

945
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 6: is the thing is that he took it seriously. He

946
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 6: took the protocol extremely seriously stayed away from what he

947
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 6: needed to stay away from. In terms of the foods,

948
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 6: we give you list of foods you should stay away

949
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 6: from on our website. If you go to our instructions page,

950
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 6: we list those foods stay away. So those are the

951
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 6: foods it's causing information and the kid Jenny Diet will

952
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 6: tell you the foods that you can eat. But then

953
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 6: he also took the olive these extract you, I mean

954
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 6: you can talk about that a little bit of brother Kojo. Sure, sure, yeah,

955
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 6: all of the extract. But to the point I thought,

956
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 6: I started understanding really really what herow does in the protocol.

957
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 6: It is more it's more of making you understand what

958
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 6: you're doing. So for example, I stopped eating four or

959
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 6: five times a day because I understood that your body

960
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 6: had to fast, so all those things and that put

961
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 6: me to a state of ketosis. So but the extract,

962
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 6: I started off using the the regular out of the

963
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 6: extract three times a day, table community that a day. Additionally,

964
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 6: you know vitamin D talked about. I think, hey, what

965
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 6: you call this vitamin D six season? Not the flu season?

966
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 6: So I started taking vitam D with K three and

967
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 6: I started understanding that these things have to go with

968
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 6: something else. For example, turmeric has to go with black pepper,

969
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 6: and the reason, well, why that has to happen. So

970
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 6: once you start taking the protocol and you start taking

971
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 6: it serious and start understanding what's happening, it's not even

972
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 6: I don't even call it a diet anymore. It's kind

973
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 6: of life just makes sense. It's just scientifically makes sense.

974
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 6: And then once you start doing that, then you adapt

975
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 6: it as your lifestyle and you will see the benefits immediately.

976
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 6: Some things that you thought you were dealing with in

977
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 6: terms of cancer primarily is a result of other things

978
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 6: that's going on aside you abouhody, and you start seeing

979
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 6: impact of those changes immediately, and the cancer itself will

980
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 6: be addressed, you know, just as a side effect of

981
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 6: doing the right things.

982
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you this, eleven half the top,

983
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: that were you scared when the weight started coming off you?

984
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: Because did you think maybe something else is going on here?

985
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 4: No?

986
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 6: No, I.

987
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 4: You know, I'm a prior service guy, so I knew

988
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 4: what it feels like to be in shape. So it

989
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 4: started feeling started feeling familiar, So I knew it wasn't

990
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 4: like I was sickly losing weight. I was losing to

991
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,080
Speaker 4: What happens is when your body starts doing that, it

992
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 4: stops stop using glucose as an energy system source, and

993
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 4: it actually starts eating your own fat inside your body.

994
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 4: And you can go into that. So what happens is

995
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 4: when you go to keytoast is your body actually starts

996
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 4: looking for another source of energy. And what it does

997
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 4: it starts eating the fat away from primarily the visceral

998
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 4: fat around your waist. So once I started understanding what's

999
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 4: happening inside my body, I wasn't scared. I would have

1000
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 4: been scared if I didn't know what was going on.

1001
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,439
Speaker 1: And you mentioned that you change your diyet what what?

1002
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: What did you stop eating and what did you start eating?

1003
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: Break it down Instead of this scientific names, just give

1004
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: us the food names.

1005
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, So pasta pasta number one thing was pasta

1006
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 4: out of here, white bread, anything enriched with flour, white flower,

1007
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 4: whole wheat flour, even if it says healthy one hundred percent.

1008
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 4: I started understanding the labels and started understanding the different

1009
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 4: names for the same things that are the same dangerous things. Right,

1010
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 4: So you know, you look on the back of the labels.

1011
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 4: You see zu crows, you see glucose, you see fruit.

1012
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 4: These are sugars, so sugar, the pastas, the vegetables, heat oils,

1013
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 4: replaced it with coconut oil, as Heroy mentioned earlier. Those

1014
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 4: those those primarily are the main things, the pastas, the sugars,

1015
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 4: any type of sugar, and then you know the vegetables,

1016
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 4: heat oils. And what did you start started eating? Started

1017
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 4: eating once a day. I started out doing what they

1018
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 4: call old man once a day, and then eventually I

1019
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 4: went to I actually did a twenty day water fast,

1020
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 4: twenty one days water with some electrolytes thrown in there,

1021
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 4: some ginger. So I started eating just like real food,

1022
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 4: going on to the actual market and getting the food

1023
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 4: that if you don't eat it that day, it's foil.

1024
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 4: It's as opposed to the stuff that's Heroy mentioned earlier

1025
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 4: that has the shelf life. And once you once you,

1026
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 4: once you know understand your your why, your how, it

1027
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 4: becomes easier.

1028
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: So how do you feel right now? Say again, sorry,

1029
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: how do you feel right now?

1030
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 6: Oh?

1031
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 4: I feel black past? I feel black past. I'll tell

1032
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 4: you what happens is your family members, you know, people

1033
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 4: around you that what I stopped doing. Was time to

1034
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 4: just tell everybody. I just can people see what you do,

1035
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 4: motive what you say. So just a couple of weeks ago,

1036
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 4: I tell her rue this my U A family member

1037
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 4: called me and said, hey, man, a one seed is

1038
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 4: six point two. I said, well, that's okay, that's a number,

1039
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 4: but we don't understand what we understand. You know, what

1040
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 4: are you eating, when are you eating, how are you eating?

1041
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 4: Are you fasting? So I started going into I'm trying

1042
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 4: to make them understand what led to that point of

1043
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 4: the A one seed going up and what that means

1044
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 4: and times your body. So yeah, people, my mother, for example,

1045
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 4: she was on met Foreman and all these other blood

1046
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 4: freshure medicines. She's no longer taking that stuff because she's

1047
00:59:58,680 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 4: doing the photocols.

1048
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 1: Well, so what did your doctor say though, because you

1049
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: when they saw the results and obviously went back to

1050
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 1: your doctor, they so.

1051
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 4: Two is two? Two primarily responses. The first one was

1052
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 4: my primary position. He's I think he's pretty progressive. Right

1053
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 4: when I walked in, you know, he lost he was

1054
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 4: starting he started like cursing, what the what the what

1055
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 4: did you do? You look amazing, dude, You're killing it.

1056
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 4: So he's uh, he's Indian, right. So we had a conversation.

1057
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 4: He starts saying, well, in my culture, we're fast. I said,

1058
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 4: I guarantee that your elder is that fast, just because

1059
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 4: fasting that benefit of that fast thing, you're seeing results.

1060
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 4: He said, yes, absolutely. So I actually gave him the

1061
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 4: protocol of the book we were talked about earlier. I

1062
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 4: gave him a copy of the book and he reads it.

1063
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 4: He reads it. Of course, you know, he's in a

1064
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 4: situation where he has to pay bills, so he's not

1065
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 4: going to just totally, but he is willing to listen. Now,

1066
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 4: the other doctor that I went to, he was just like,

1067
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 4: that doesn't work. Uh, there's no proven studies that it works.

1068
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 4: You have to take this, you have to take a treatment.

1069
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 10: You know.

1070
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 6: I thought this guy urologist.

1071
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 4: I thought this guy tooth and nail. He wanted to

1072
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,959
Speaker 4: cut me open. They wanted to what they went straight away.

1073
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 4: They wanted to go in and cut me open and

1074
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 4: do all these things to me and see, my quality

1075
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 4: of life is going to be better. I'm gonna have

1076
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 4: to wear a diaper and all this kind of thing out.

1077
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Speaker 4: And I'm sitting there telling them, like, are you looking

1078
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 4: at me, do you see me? So yeah, even when he.

1079
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:25,919
Speaker 1: Looked at the results, he was telling you he still

1080
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 1: wanted to do surgery.

1081
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah,

1082
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 4: absolutely absolutely. I requested him to you because what people understand,

1083
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,439
Speaker 4: these doctors, they work for you. You tell them what you want,

1084
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 4: They give you the advice, they give you the results,

1085
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 4: and then you have to make a decision with your

1086
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 4: own life what you want. Because he was denying me

1087
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 4: to go get another MRIs. But you don't need another mr.

1088
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 4: You need to do certainly, blah blah blah. First he

1089
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 4: told me, don't wait six months. This was back in

1090
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 4: December twenty twenty three. He said, you've got about six

1091
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 4: months before this thing starts spreading, going crazy. So I

1092
01:01:58,120 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 4: want you to get before it becomes the problems, but

1093
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 4: your bones. I want you to get a hell of it.

1094
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 4: So I came back in six months and now what.

1095
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh the thought right there, Causeuer we got to

1096
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: step aside and gate take a short break and we

1097
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 1: come away. I'll let you finish your story. Family just

1098
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: joined us. I guess he's doctor Heru's a natural pantic doctor.

1099
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: He verses cancer. You hear him from one of his patients,

1100
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 1: brother Kujo, who joined us from Jersey. What are your

1101
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: thoughts eight hundred and four to five zero seventy eight

1102
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 1: seventy six. We'll take your phone calls next and Grand

1103
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: Rising family, thanks for waking up with us on this

1104
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 1: Monday morning, this Indigenous People's Day. It's a federal holiday

1105
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: that some people still call it Columbus Days. That means

1106
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: all the government agencies are closed, including the post office,

1107
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 1: and the banks are closed as well, so they won't

1108
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 1: begin in business until tomorrow. Right now, our guess he's

1109
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 1: doctor Heru's an atropathic doctor. He's got a protocol that

1110
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: reverses cancer. And we're speaking with one of his patients,

1111
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 1: brother Coudreu'm financially name correctly calling from New Jersey and

1112
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: brother Coulture, you were telling us that your doctor, one

1113
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 1: of your doctors who just didn't believe the results that

1114
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 1: he saw, right.

1115
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 4: I don't even know if it wasn't he didn't believe.

1116
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 4: I think he was he was primarily just set in

1117
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 4: the way because they only have four actually four trained

1118
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 4: that they're only trained, and I think it's just a

1119
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 4: matter of that they just don't know I think that's

1120
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 4: a combination of you have some doctors that just don't know,

1121
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 4: and then you have some doctors that they know, but

1122
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 4: like I said, they have to pay bills. So I

1123
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 4: think it was a combination of both of those, because

1124
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 4: you know, I offer them the same protocol book. And

1125
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 4: I explained to him, well, because he kept saying, you know,

1126
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 4: because you're not taking treatment, because you're not taking I said, well,

1127
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 4: I am taking treatment. I'm not just not taking the

1128
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 4: treatment that you want me to, I said, but so

1129
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 4: you should be. You should be results based, not you know,

1130
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 4: you know, not whether or not I'm taking treatment or not.

1131
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 1: So well, did did he prescribe you the medications to

1132
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: take and you refused to take it? I'm trying to

1133
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 1: figure out what was.

1134
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 4: Understand any I didn't do any I didn't do any

1135
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 4: any of the prescribe anything from the doctors. I didn't

1136
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 4: do any chemo, nobody, nothing. The only thing I did do,

1137
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 4: which was you know, in hindsight and hey, room, maybe

1138
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 4: he can go into that is I did do the

1139
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 4: I think it's called the biopsy with actually go in

1140
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 4: and take a take a samples of your prostate. And

1141
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 4: what I actually wind up understanding was that actually induced

1142
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 4: information in that area. So there's a lot of things

1143
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 4: once you start understanding what's going on, and that's what

1144
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 4: the protocol helps you understand what's going on, so you're

1145
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 4: equipped with real knowledge that you can make real decisions on.

1146
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 4: Now that decision is a tough decision because you have

1147
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 4: your loved ones who are looking at you like okay,

1148
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 4: because most people in your family are going to be

1149
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 4: that's where the most pressure is going to come from

1150
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 4: because they understand that's that's all they know as well.

1151
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 4: So it's it's kind of a lonely place. But I

1152
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 4: think that's the value of Urban results net is that

1153
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 4: you have other members you can reach up and talk

1154
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 4: to them on the phone. Like I talked to the

1155
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 4: brother Crawford who had stage three. I talked to the

1156
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 4: brother and I talked to several people who went through

1157
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 4: it and kind of became like our own support system

1158
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 4: because it's one thing to listen to brother Head, but

1159
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 4: it's another thing to talk to another bug who had

1160
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 4: to make that tough life decision at that moment at

1161
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:09,439
Speaker 4: stage three. Here I am at stage one. So yeah,

1162
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 4: it was it was a tough It was a tough decision,

1163
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 4: but it was something that it just it just made sense.

1164
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 1: Well all that sorry, that's twenty four up the top there.

1165
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 1: What about your family though, do they say do they

1166
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 1: say you crazy? You're listening to this black man that's

1167
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 1: telling it out he's got something that can reverse cancer,

1168
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 1: and the white man has told you he's got a

1169
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,479
Speaker 1: medical degree behind his name, and he's in the white

1170
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 1: suit and he's telling you he can save your life.

1171
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 1: Did you get all that kind of pressure from your family?

1172
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 4: Not direct like that, No, not direct like that. Unfortunately,

1173
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 4: I've been one who always been quote unquote race first

1174
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 4: from the get go, So it was it wasn't a

1175
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 4: shock that I didn't trust the system quote unquote, I'm

1176
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 4: out the gate. So I've been that kind of person

1177
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 4: for years. So it was it was not something like

1178
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 4: out of the blue. It was kind of like expected

1179
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 4: because I'm I researched stuff, I want to know, I

1180
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 4: don't want to believe. So yeah, you know, my spouse,

1181
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 4: she was she was nervous, but she trusted me and

1182
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 4: we came through.

1183
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 5: It and help her.

1184
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 4: It helped her as well. Everybody in your family will

1185
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 4: benefit from this protocol. It's not just a person taking

1186
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 4: a protocol. If everyone either they don't agree with you,

1187
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 4: if they stop eating the degebel sea oils, if they

1188
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 4: stop eating the process schools, if they start eating the

1189
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 4: carbs and the sugar, they're gonna benefit and then themselves

1190
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 4: they would come their own testimony.

1191
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 1: Well, thank you for sharing your testimony with us this morning.

1192
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 1: And it's encouraging to know that, you know, because we

1193
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 1: talk about it quite a bit, and people are always suspicious,

1194
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 1: you know, because many of us are still addicted to

1195
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 1: white and instill getting the brother a chance. They're still

1196
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 1: they still can't believe that, you know, the white man

1197
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 1: eyes is cold, a sugar sweeter, and is water wetter.

1198
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 1: So they're still in that stance and they place their

1199
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 1: life in the hands of a black person who is

1200
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 1: n't conventional medicine is is a stretch for some people.

1201
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 1: So brother called you. Thank you, but let me ask

1202
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 1: thank you for sharing that with us, But let me

1203
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: go back to doctor Huru though, and thank you for

1204
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 1: joining us his money. Doctor. Who does he have to

1205
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 1: stay on the protocol for the rest of his life now?

1206
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 1: Is he completely cancer free or does he have to

1207
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 1: occasionally just to take some of the protocol just to

1208
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 1: keep going.

1209
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, you know, when he got his MRI scanning,

1210
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 6: they can't see anymore. I mean he can tell you

1211
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:30,919
Speaker 6: you know, when he got his MRI scannon, they didn't

1212
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 6: see anything. You could talk about that day and what

1213
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 6: that felt like and how you know, communications from the

1214
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 6: doctors and knowing that this is the path that he

1215
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 6: took to get him these results. You're not just doing

1216
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 6: it to reverse this particular problem. You're looking to reverse

1217
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 6: a lifestyle that caused the problem. So therefore it becomes

1218
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 6: something that you do as a natural part of your life,

1219
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 6: and things like all of these extracts to just be

1220
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 6: seen as a dietary or just like you know, people

1221
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 6: drink Coca cola every day. They don't think that it's

1222
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 6: a poison that they're drinking. Then you can drink something

1223
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 6: like you know, all the extract or have to American

1224
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 6: your food to have black feed oil or you know,

1225
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 6: Nigella fativa or our genesia a new or niam or

1226
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 6: any one of these irger antiperasitic is just the natural

1227
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:26,639
Speaker 6: part of your dietary life. So people need to start

1228
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 6: looking at you know, as our ancestors said, let's your

1229
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 6: food be your medicine. Let's the medicine be your food.

1230
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,520
Speaker 6: But we just haven't been trained with foods are medicinal

1231
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 6: for us. Once we start to understand that and then

1232
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:42,799
Speaker 6: start replacing those foods with the bad foods, the process foods,

1233
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 6: you start seeing your life turn around quite quickly where

1234
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 6: you know you're diagnosed with you know, cancer one day

1235
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 6: and you stick with this protocol, which is just a

1236
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 6: changing lifestyle, and it changes your definition of what food is,

1237
01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 6: what your definition of vitamins and minerals are, and changing

1238
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 6: your definition of what foods can help you do purges

1239
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 6: in the form of anti parasitic cleanses regularly, which you

1240
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 6: know our grandmothers used to do for us. How from

1241
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 6: those who you know are from the South, of those

1242
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 6: from Caribbean and from Africa. You know grandmas will take

1243
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 6: you aside and make you drink that turpentine and that

1244
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 6: castor oil or any of these bitter herbs that are

1245
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 6: anti parasitics. We used to do it, and we saw

1246
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 6: worms come out of our bodies as children. For those

1247
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 6: who you know come from the Deep South, they know

1248
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 6: this story. People who come from the Caribbean, they know

1249
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,799
Speaker 6: this story. People who come from Africa, they know this story.

1250
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 6: But when we get to be adults, we stop doing

1251
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 6: anti parasite cleanses because you know, we're now addicted to

1252
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 6: the sweet taste and we don't embrace the bitter. But

1253
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 6: all of this is turning around. And what we're doing

1254
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 6: in herbal results is we're just from pilots more and

1255
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 6: more data and more and more human receipts. But people

1256
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 6: are getting the who versus and we're creating our own library,

1257
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 6: and we're solving our problems through the concept of pug chagalia,

1258
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 6: which is self determination. And that's what it's all about.

1259
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,640
Speaker 6: We are here to solve our problems because it's the

1260
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 6: pandemic that can show us anything. If you have shown us,

1261
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 6: we are on our own and the Emperor wear no clothes,

1262
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 6: so true.

1263
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 1: Thirty minutes after the top of the family, just checking

1264
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 1: in our guess is doctor Herou. He's a naturopathic doctor.

1265
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 1: He's got a protocol that versus cancer. You heard one

1266
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 1: of his patients said, testify that it's working for him.

1267
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 1: It's now cancer free. He had prostate cancer. If you

1268
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 1: want to join this conversation, reach out to us at

1269
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:40,679
Speaker 1: eight hundred and four five zero seventy eight seventy six.

1270
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 1: Bob is calling us from Buffalo. He's got a question

1271
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 1: for You's online one grand rising. Bob, you're on with

1272
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 1: doctor Herow.

1273
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, thank you, doctor herew thank you very much for

1274
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 7: your opening question. I think the opening question was an

1275
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:56,799
Speaker 7: important one. If someone was watching you with a testify

1276
01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 7: that you're doing things for yourself, the better yourself. My question,

1277
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 7: you mentioned box foods, is the same thing true for

1278
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,679
Speaker 7: canned foods, and is the canned foods that we're eating

1279
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:11,640
Speaker 7: out of cans similar or different than the canny that

1280
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 7: our answer elders, ancestors are predecessors used to do with

1281
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 7: the glass jars? Is that the same kind of canny?

1282
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 7: That is this is the same thing about the shelf

1283
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 7: life applied to can goods as well as box goods

1284
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 7: that you mentioned.

1285
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 1: And let me add something to that as well. Doctor

1286
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 1: before you respond to Bob's question, because now people are

1287
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 1: talking about something cataclysmic may happen, and they're telling you

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Speaker 1: have a bug out bat well, you got to have

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Speaker 1: some rations, some sort of food in case something happens

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Speaker 1: you're not able to go to the story or the

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Speaker 1: stores are closing I have any money, How does an

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Speaker 1: answer Bob's question and tag on this what do we

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Speaker 1: do for food? Then if that does materialize?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So you know there are some not foods leon

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Speaker 6: and you know meet falt. You know, before refrigerators or

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Speaker 6: anything takes the salt their meat as a preservative. There

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Speaker 6: are forms of natural preservatives such as lemons and limes

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Speaker 6: to increase the preservation of food. But when you start

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Speaker 6: adding these man made chemicals, that's when you get the problems.

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Speaker 6: Now in terms of canned food versus you know, glass food.

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Speaker 6: Of course you want food in the glass. The issue

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Speaker 6: of the canned food is that what is the preservatives

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Speaker 6: that they're using on the can used to be able

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Speaker 6: to see if they're using any conservatives. There's rule of

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Speaker 6: thumbmas that if you start seeing the birds that you

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Speaker 6: cannot pronounce in the ingredients list, then you know you've

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Speaker 6: got a chemical preservative.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 6: And if you've got a chemical preservatives, please understand he's

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Speaker 6: going to have some type of deuterious side effect for

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Speaker 6: you to use a man made agents that meant to

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Speaker 6: artificially spend your self life of a food. If you

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Speaker 6: start seeing a sorbic acid that is something that you

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Speaker 6: know you could be used as coming out of lemon

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Speaker 6: or live You just want to look at the ingredients.

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Speaker 6: We don't also want the good to be the enemy

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Speaker 6: of the perfect. There will be times where you need

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Speaker 6: to preserve food and you may have to use extenuating

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Speaker 6: circumstances to eat food that has been preserved. But remember

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Speaker 6: this that what you talk about what you're going to

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Speaker 6: be during emergency should not be what you're doing every

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Speaker 6: single day. So if you were going to eat it

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01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 6: can food because there has been stored, that's the only thing.

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Speaker 6: If you have a sign. But if you start making

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Speaker 6: it a way of life where has these chemicals in it,

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Speaker 6: what you start doing is that you start developing a

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Speaker 6: negative health karma by stacking up chips of foods that

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Speaker 6: are inflammatory into your body. And so this is the key,

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Speaker 6: is that you know what you do in emergency is

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Speaker 6: not what you should be doing every single day. Every

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01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 6: single day, we should be eating whole foods that have

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Speaker 6: not been preserved. And that is pretty much the rule

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Speaker 6: of thumb. And I would just ask people, so when

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Speaker 6: you go into a grocery store, the healthiest foods are

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Speaker 6: the ones on the outside corners of the grocery store,

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Speaker 6: that's where the food usually is refrigerated or it's left open.

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Speaker 6: You know, when you go to the produce section, you'll

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Speaker 6: see refrigerated food. But then in the middle section is

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Speaker 6: where all the box food is. And that box food

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Speaker 6: is what you mean to worry about. That's your cookies, crackers,

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01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 6: all of these defined carbohydrates, and it is having a

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Speaker 6: terrible health consequence. And if people can just do a

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01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,759
Speaker 6: sweep of their house and get rid of the vegetable

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Speaker 6: feed oil as a place that with coconut oil on

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01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,639
Speaker 6: the signed version of coconut oil, get rid of all

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01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 6: of your brains, get rid of all of your breads,

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01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 6: get rid of your rice, get rid of your apasta.

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Speaker 6: You can feet your rice with colliflower rice. It has

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Speaker 6: no white seeing in that. You'll find it. If you're

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01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 6: a diabetic and you do these things, within about two

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01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:05,839
Speaker 6: weeks to three weeks, you'll start seeing your blood sugar

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01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 6: dramatically improved. You get an A one C after a month,

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Speaker 6: and we're seeing the reversal of diabetes, reversal of high

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Speaker 6: blood pressure within thirty days. We're getting on average reversal

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Speaker 6: answer within three months. I don't know if brother Kojo

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Speaker 6: is on. Are you still on brother Kodjoe?

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Speaker 1: No, he left us, No.

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Speaker 6: He's off. Okay, Yeah, I think he did the protocol

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Speaker 6: for about three months.

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Speaker 1: And so with mat I interrupt you here for a second.

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Speaker 1: So does the protocol work for other issues? Is because

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Speaker 1: you know you talked about diabetes, high blood pressure. What

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Speaker 1: about kidney problems folks who have all those issues? Does

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Speaker 1: he work for that as well?

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Speaker 6: Yes, because most kidney problems when people are unaware of

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Speaker 6: actually side effects of high blood pressure medication, right, And

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Speaker 6: there are several studies we have on our website showing

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Speaker 6: that blood pressure medication, particularly you know those like listen

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Speaker 6: to Perl which your a prohibitors, or even losser Tan.

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Speaker 6: You can go to drugs dot com and you put

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Speaker 6: in losser Tan side effects. Loser Tans are very popular

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Speaker 6: high blood pressure medication, and you can go into side

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Speaker 6: effects and you just go down to where it says

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Speaker 6: for healthcare professionals. You just go Drugs dot Com loser

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Speaker 6: Tan side effects. You'll see comment severe long term side effects.

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Speaker 6: Click that, scroll down to healthcare professionals and you'll see

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Speaker 6: the renal section and you'll see the ten percent of

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01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 6: the people who take this medication can expect to have

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Speaker 6: renal failure, it says it in the side effects listing.

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Speaker 6: You'll see also ten percent of people who take Listen

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Speaker 6: and Perl, it says in the side effects listing, will

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Speaker 6: get increased blood creating levels, which is an increased amount

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Speaker 6: of toxins that your kidney's supposed to clear. And the

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Speaker 6: higher the number of your blood creature you work, your

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Speaker 6: kidneys are. And if that's clearly on there, it you're

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Speaker 6: creating numbers will increase when you take the centerprol. And

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Speaker 6: so when we see people who have kidney failure, Brother Carl,

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Speaker 6: the first thing we do is we ask them s

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Speaker 6: they're on high blood pressure medica. That's true, then their

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Speaker 6: issue is the inflammation of their ar tier walls. Causing

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Speaker 6: them to take a medication they only mask the problem

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Speaker 6: and does not deal with the problem. We stop the

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Speaker 6: source of inflammation by cutting out inflammatory foods in the

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Speaker 6: form of sugar, game grains, rice, pasta, crackers, cookies, doughnuts,

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Speaker 6: cake pie, all that, fruit drinks, fruit juice drinks, and

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Speaker 6: you know, soda drinks. Cut all that out from your diet,

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Speaker 6: and then you take anti inxlammatory herbs.

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Speaker 1: You start, yeah, because we're going to step aside and

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Speaker 1: check the news at one more time, doctor Ry. But

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Speaker 1: when we come back, you tell us what to cut out,

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Speaker 1: but help us out here. Want you cut out? What

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Speaker 1: are we going to replace it with? So that that's

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01:17:57,720 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 1: the question because people listening to say, okay, I got

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Speaker 1: to stop doing and they eating this, this, this and that.

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Speaker 3: What am I?

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Speaker 1: What am I going to eat? So if you could

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Speaker 1: help us out instead of like saying carbohydrates just sat

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01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:10,639
Speaker 1: bread or something, break it down that because folks don't

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Speaker 1: know they used to the regular terms. So if you

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Speaker 1: can do that, I appreciate it. Family, YouTube can join

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Speaker 1: our discussion. You got a health challenge, reach out to

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01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 1: us and you can speak to doctor Hereu at eight

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Speaker 1: hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six. We'll take

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Speaker 1: your phone calls after the news. That's next and Grand

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Speaker 1: Rising family, thanks for staying with us on this Monday morning,

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01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 1: this Indigenous People's Day twenty twenty five. Some of you

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Speaker 1: still call it Columbus Day, federal holiday. That means no

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Speaker 1: mail today and the banks are also closed, no school

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Speaker 1: as well. Sixteen minutes away from the top of the

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Speaker 1: although where with doctor Herou is a holistic doctor. Before

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Speaker 1: we go back to the missremind you come up later

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Speaker 1: this morning, we're gona speak with educator doctor Kemmick Shockley.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna explain how to stop the school to prison

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Speaker 1: pipeline and some other stuff we're going to talk to

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Speaker 1: him about as well. And coming up later this week,

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Speaker 1: we're going to discuss the anniversary of the Millionaire in

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Speaker 1: March with one of the two of the architects really

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Speaker 1: the first so Willie Wilson, doctor Reverend doctor Willy Wilson, Washington,

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Speaker 1: d C. And also Quanta creator doctor Malana Kreng atleast

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Speaker 1: one of the two persons first two persons that Minister

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Speaker 1: Farca called when they decided to put this on. In

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Speaker 1: fact that doctor Krenge wrote the manifesto for the Many

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Speaker 1: and Man March. They'll both be here. Also, Chairman Fred

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Speaker 1: Hampton's going to join us and activists Attorney Darryl Jones

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Speaker 1: will be here. Now that Darnel Jones is part of

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Speaker 1: a group that's going to be protesting the Supreme Court.

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01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 1: They have a hearing on Wednesday to overturn the overturned

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Speaker 1: the voting rights measure. So they're going to be on

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Speaker 1: Capitol Hill protest and he's going to explain to us

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Speaker 1: why anyway, we got some folks who want to talk

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Speaker 1: to doctor Heru before we do that, though, my question

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Speaker 1: to you doctor before we left the break, I'll let

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Speaker 1: you respond to that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we were talking about foods right right, So I've

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Speaker 6: listed the foods on our website, on her results dot net,

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Speaker 6: on the instructions phases, so people who have reference to this.

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Speaker 6: He tells you foods not to eat and will also

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01:19:57,320 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 6: tell you the foods to eat. So the food not

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01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 6: to eat and our name that I won't just say carbohydrate.

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Speaker 6: You want to stay away from your breads, particularly the

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01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 6: wheat based of breads. You want to stay away from that.

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01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 6: You want to stay away from your flowers, the white flowers,

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01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 6: wheat based flour. You want to stay away from spaghetti.

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01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 6: You want to stay away from rice. You want to

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01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:25,639
Speaker 6: stay away from these processed food drinks they add extra

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01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:29,520
Speaker 6: sugar to them. You want to stay away from processed grains.

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Speaker 6: This would be any grains who's been stripped of their fiber.

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Speaker 6: If it's white, you want to stay away from it.

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Speaker 6: And you want to stay away from cookies, crackers, donuts, cake,

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Speaker 6: all those types of snacks that you might eat, those

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Speaker 6: candy snacks. You want that out of your life, particularly

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01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 6: if you're going through this heating process, this healing process,

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01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 6: because all of these foods convert into sugar within about

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Speaker 6: fifteen minutes of adjusting them. And so what you've got

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Speaker 6: to do is you've got to start doing the test

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Speaker 6: where you deprive your body of sugar. If you just

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Speaker 6: deprive your body of sugar based foods or foods that

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Speaker 6: convert to sugar, you stop feeding inflammation. We know what

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Speaker 6: sugar does to our teeth, right, and our teeth is

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Speaker 6: the hardest part of our body along with our bones.

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Speaker 6: Sugar can cause teeth decay and all of these things

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Speaker 6: around cavities where you get a hole in your teeth,

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01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 6: and your bones are much harder than your soft internal organs, right,

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01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 6: So if you can get a hole in your teeth

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Speaker 6: from sugar, what is sugar doing to your soft internal organs.

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Speaker 6: So what we're going to do is that we're going

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Speaker 6: to start taking sugar is public enemy number one. We're

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01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 6: going to take vegetable oil feed oils as public and

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Speaker 6: enemy number two. We're going to start facting, and we're

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Speaker 6: going to start taking anti inflammatory herbs.

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Speaker 1: And the right. I'm going to hold you there because

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01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 1: we've got a bunch of folks want to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: I want to get them on before we get out

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Speaker 1: of here, doctor, because all of those stuffs on your website. Correct. Yes,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's take some calls for you, Doc. Brenda's

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01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 1: reaching out to us. Some Chevroley and Marilyn, she's online

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Speaker 1: one grand rising Brenda, you're only doctor Hero.

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Speaker 9: Yes.

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Speaker 11: I wanted to ask about one's memory.

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Speaker 6: Sure, So when we're talking about memory, what I found

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01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:27,680
Speaker 6: is that one of the biggest causes of people to

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01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 6: have a lack of memory is many times these medications

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01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 6: that people are taken. So that's ther first thing is

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01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 6: that if someone's had a memory issues, ask them what

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01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 6: medication they're taken. The number one culprit of creating Alzheimer's

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Speaker 6: and dementia is actually dating drugs, these cholesterol lowering drugs.

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Speaker 6: They have the wrong theory on heart disease. They've been

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Speaker 6: taught that cholesterol is the cause of heart disease that

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Speaker 6: came from some faulty science from a dietitian called doctor

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Speaker 6: and cell keys. The doctor Ansell Keys came up with

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Speaker 6: the theory that cholesterol causes heart disease. There was another

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Speaker 6: doctor called doctor John you Kin who said that the

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Speaker 6: cause of heart disease was in fact to sugar. Well,

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01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:18,719
Speaker 6: the sugar lobby came out against doctor John Yucky because

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Speaker 6: if his research became known and became popular, it would

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01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 6: have bankrupt the sugar industry. The sugar lobby put all

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Speaker 6: their money behind doctor Ansel Keys. Doctor Ansel Keeve ended

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Speaker 6: up getting promoted by the pharmaceutical companies, who in turn

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01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 6: formed drugs that would be anti cholesterol drugs, which became

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Speaker 6: a billion dollar industry. That is your statin drugs. Now,

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01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 6: these statin drugs, the problem with them is that they

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01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:51,600
Speaker 6: lowered cholesterol artificially in your body. And with lower cholesterol,

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01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 6: you need to know what cholesterol is for cholesterol is

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01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 6: really the building block of your hormones, and cholesterol also

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01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 6: is needed by the brain to function. Now he's lower

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01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:05,639
Speaker 6: cholesterol and people artificially and unnecessarily because the true cause

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01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 6: was actually sugared for heart disease. I guess what happened.

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Speaker 6: You've got low brain cholesterol and now he's got Alzheimer's dementia. Okay.

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Speaker 6: Number two cause of memory problems outside of statin drugs

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Speaker 6: and high blood pressure medications, particularly like of the load epene.

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Speaker 6: One of the side effects listens for hamloadopine. There is

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01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 6: loss of memory, trouble with memory. A lot of people

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01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 6: don't know that. Please take the pharmaceuticals that you have today.

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01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 6: Go to drugs dot com, put in the name of

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Speaker 6: the pharmaceutical drugs dot com, name of the pharmaceutical, and

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01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 6: put in side effects after it. You will see a link.

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01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 6: They will say comment severe long term. You click that

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01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:51,560
Speaker 6: and read the side effects listened for the medications to

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01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 6: take me. Many of you will be appalled.

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Speaker 4: And shock.

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Speaker 6: Number two cause of memory issues. A lot of people

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01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 6: don't realize that Alzheimer's has another name. Alzheimer's is also

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Speaker 6: called type three diabetes. That's actually another name for Alzheimer's,

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01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:15,560
Speaker 6: type three diabetes. Now they've told you that this Alzheimer's,

1535
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 6: this memory issue they call it Alzheimer's, has something to

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01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 6: do with blood sugar. They're calling it talk to three diabetes.

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01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 6: And what you got is you've got inflammation of the

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01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 6: brain caused by high blood shiger And this is the

1539
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,799
Speaker 6: problem with not understanding what sugar does to the body.

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01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 6: It causes chronic information and when it reaches the brain

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Speaker 6: they call it Alzheimer's.

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Speaker 1: Hold that right there, because we've still got a bunch

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01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 1: of folks want to talk to you. Brenda, I thank

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01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 1: you for your call, and he's going to give out

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01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 1: his information before he leaves if we don't get to

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01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:49,719
Speaker 1: speak with everybody. Nine away from the top there, Jerome's

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01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:52,679
Speaker 1: in DC has a question for you, Doctor Herui's online

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Speaker 1: four Grand Rising, Jeromei're on with doctor Herou.

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Speaker 12: Okay, Grand Rising, I have a question about your protocol.

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01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 12: Would your protocol work for flood cancers specifically CLL.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So we've had success with all different types of

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01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 6: cancers because we're dealing with the root cause, so you know,

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01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 6: in cases of leukemia and we have success and with

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Speaker 6: multiple mieloma as well, and these are all blood cancers,

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01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:29,680
Speaker 6: and so what we deal is that root cause of it,

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01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:34,640
Speaker 6: and so we don't we don't really discriminate on the

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01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 6: type of cancer this and please go to our website

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Speaker 6: and the interest of the callers in the time. I

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01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 6: know a lot of people want to talk and ask questions.

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Speaker 6: Please go to Herbo results dot net. Go to the testimonials.

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Speaker 6: You will see all types of diverse cancer testimonials. It

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Speaker 6: doesn't matter what type of cancer. We deal with the

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Speaker 6: root cause. And I'm sure that you can contact us.

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Speaker 6: We give you more information and even more research about

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Speaker 6: your particular disease and what we think would be helpful

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Speaker 6: and something that you can think about and make an

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Speaker 6: informed decision about.

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Speaker 5: Okay, okay, ruber result dot net.

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Speaker 6: Correct and go to the testimonials pace first and watch

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Speaker 6: the different testimonials. Okay, you'll see this diverse cancer.

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Speaker 13: All right, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: All right, stakes away from the topic. Derekson, Colorado's online

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Speaker 1: five Grand Rising. Derek, you're on with doctor herow.

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Speaker 10: Oh lobido, but you have a high T count and

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01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:36,479
Speaker 10: as is. And also I had a cousin.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 10: They he had a PSA it was four and I said, man,

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01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 10: you need to worry about that, and his doctor said,

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01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 10: well you're fine. Now his PSA has gone up to

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01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:50,759
Speaker 10: seven and eight. Now he's been diagnosed with a constaed cancer.

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01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 10: I mean, what happened was this an incompetence on the

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01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 10: doctor or it was that this and the answered the

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01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 10: first too, and then they have an incompetence by the

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01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 10: doctor because he's inid. Anything over four ps is is uh,

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01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 10: you need to watch that. Now it's gone up to seven,

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01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:09,920
Speaker 10: eight and nine.

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 1: Did you hear the first part of the question at

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Speaker 1: doctor Hero.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the first part was about the incompetence from the doctor.

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01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:20,800
Speaker 6: Was about the first part.

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Speaker 10: Now, the first part was a low libido and the

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01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 10: tea count but you have high tea counts And that's

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01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 10: the two questions and how can you resolve those? And

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01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 10: also the next one would be on my cousin he

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01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 10: had a PSA. He had he had four and then

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Speaker 10: he went up to the doctors that don't worry about it,

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01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 10: and then it went up to seven and eight. Now

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Speaker 10: he's got prostage cancer. Yeah, so let's answer your your

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Speaker 10: first question about lo lovito. The first thing that anybody

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01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 10: who tells me to have lo libido, that's all you

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01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:00,960
Speaker 10: know about using meditate. You know, are you on any

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01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 10: pharmaceutical Medica's.

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Speaker 6: The first one. Now, now if you're not on any medication,

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01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:10,760
Speaker 6: any question is do you eat any soy products? You

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01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:15,720
Speaker 6: eat flack seeds? And do you eat a lot of

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01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 6: chickpeas or chicken?

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01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 10: Now, I bet I eat some chicken and I eat

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01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 10: what's that of them? I hate the black seed milk.

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01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 10: I drink that.

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Speaker 6: Oh okay, here we go. See when we talk about diet,

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01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 6: this is very important and so but a lot of

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01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:37,960
Speaker 6: people do not know, and I would ask you to

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01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 6: just you can cross check what I'm saying. Please don't

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01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:43,560
Speaker 6: take anything I'm saying as gospel. I could be a Charlottean.

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01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:46,720
Speaker 6: Please double check what I'm saying. I invite people to

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01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:50,719
Speaker 6: be skeptical or at least double check what I'm saying.

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01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 6: And what people don't understand this is that black seed

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01:29:55,760 --> 01:30:01,800
Speaker 6: and soy are ftal estrogen. Please fo estrogens cause an

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01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 6: estrogen build up in your body, and this eswergen build

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01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 6: up your body affects your libido in a very negative way.

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01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:12,599
Speaker 6: You've been drinking flax seed. Actually, flat flax seed is

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01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 6: the most vital estrogenic plant that there is. And people

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01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:21,639
Speaker 6: can just do a Google search for a final estrogen

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01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 6: food chart you will see a hold.

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Speaker 1: I thought, right there, Doc, we got to step aside

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01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:28,400
Speaker 1: and take another look at the traffic and weather not

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01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:30,280
Speaker 1: different cities. When you come back out, you'll let you

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01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 1: pick it up on the flat seat oil and Derek's

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01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 1: other question as well, and Scott and Bowie has a

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01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:37,400
Speaker 1: question for you as well. Family YouTube can join our

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01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:40,320
Speaker 1: conversation with doctor rou Doctor Rux is a natural project

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01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:43,519
Speaker 1: doctor got questions by health concerns. He's the man who

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01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:45,559
Speaker 1: needs to speak to and you will take the questions

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01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 1: for him. After we check the traffic and weather not

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Speaker 1: different cities. That's next and Grant Rising family, thanks for

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01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 1: rolling with us on this Monday morning here on Indigenous

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01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:56,600
Speaker 1: People's Day. Some people call it Columbus Day, but we

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01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 1: refer to as Indigenous People's Day. We still don't know

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01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:02,400
Speaker 1: what Columbus is, but folks are here already anyway. Having

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01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 1: said that, though it's a federal holiday, that means the

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01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:08,760
Speaker 1: banks are closed, and also the schools are closed as

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01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 1: well as all the federal offices are closed, and folks

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01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:14,160
Speaker 1: who have problems with their jobs, well it's a day off.

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01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 1: Hopefully you get paid for this anyway. Two minutes after

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01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:19,200
Speaker 1: the top, I'm gonna tell we're gonna speak with doctor Shockley.

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01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:21,360
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about education with doctor Shockley. But

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01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 1: we're now speaking with doctor Henrew, doctor Herew. He's a

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01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:27,000
Speaker 1: holistic doctor. And before we left, he had a question

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01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:30,200
Speaker 1: from Derek out of Colorado. So, uh, doctor who, I'll

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01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:33,200
Speaker 1: let you responds to respond to Derek's questions.

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01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I talked about the FLAC. Please discontinue the flack.

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01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:41,640
Speaker 6: Know this highly fight or estrogenic. It will reflect to

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01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:46,519
Speaker 6: libido negatively. And in terms of your I think your

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01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:50,920
Speaker 6: cousin's situation with the prostate cancer. Yes, anything about or

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01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:54,599
Speaker 6: seeing the danger for cancer? Could they have been neglig

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01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 6: And I need no more information. I don't know everything

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01:31:57,520 --> 01:32:02,559
Speaker 6: that went down between your cousin doctors. The numbers got

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01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:05,200
Speaker 6: bigger over time. Maybe they were monitoring it to sea

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01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:07,799
Speaker 6: what was going to go down, But he was probably

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01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 6: continuing the same activities that was causing him to have

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01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:13,599
Speaker 6: a four in the first place, which is basically beating

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01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 6: inflammatory foods, and his prostate is now inflamed and it

1664
01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:20,680
Speaker 6: is the perfect beating breeding ground or disease which will

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01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:23,240
Speaker 6: be the cancer and the parasites. And if he's interested,

1666
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:26,960
Speaker 6: he can definitely go to herbalsols dot net, go to

1667
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 6: the testimonial stage. He will see a few or several

1668
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 6: prostate cancer reversal stories, very very very poignant stories that

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01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:40,120
Speaker 6: he should just take some time. It's free to watch,

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01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:43,800
Speaker 6: and they tell their story from beginning to end. And

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01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:47,080
Speaker 6: I'm talking about people with much higher PSAs than your cousin,

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01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 6: as high as one point fifty getting reversals to zero

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01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 6: point one or point five within a few months. So

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01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 6: it might be something interesting for your cousin to look

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01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:01,760
Speaker 6: at because we have a non toxic to solving this problem.

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01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:02,519
Speaker 7: Right.

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01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:05,120
Speaker 1: Oh, I thought right there before you go to Scott

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01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:08,719
Speaker 1: and Bowie. Uh, what about people taking Solve Solve pound Meadow?

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01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:10,240
Speaker 1: Is that considered good?

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01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:13,200
Speaker 6: Yeah? Solve Meta is good for the prostact that's not

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01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 6: there's nothing wrong with taking that. It's good for the prostate.

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Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha for after the top. Scott and Bowie is online.

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Speaker 1: Three grand rising, Scott your question for doctor.

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Speaker 13: Herou, Yeah, granted, Rising and jentlemen, and thank you again

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01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:29,720
Speaker 13: for this conversations with Doc. I don't think that this

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01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 13: was the intent, but what I heard you speak about

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01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 13: the stat ends in Alzheimer's and some of these type pretensives.

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01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:38,760
Speaker 13: I just want to make sure that what's also coming

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01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 13: across this long term use. So a lot of the

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01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:46,680
Speaker 13: complications with any medication is the long term use. You're right, artificially,

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01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:49,639
Speaker 13: it will help the problem, and it is cute setting.

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01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:52,840
Speaker 13: But after you get that resolve or after it is

1693
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:55,439
Speaker 13: is off, lifestyle change has to be part of it.

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01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:57,800
Speaker 13: So what tends to happen People stay on the medications,

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01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:01,080
Speaker 13: they don't change their lifestyle. And I think herbal remedies

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01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:03,439
Speaker 13: there's a great place for it. But there's got to

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01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:06,599
Speaker 13: be some type of combination where people address what's happening

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01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 13: right now, because if they don't, it may take some

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01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 13: time for the rbal remedies to actually kick in.

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01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:12,760
Speaker 4: It better if they.

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01:34:12,680 --> 01:34:15,639
Speaker 13: Have a cleaner baseline, whether it's sat in, whether it's

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01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 13: your A one c things of that nature. So I

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01:34:19,240 --> 01:34:21,519
Speaker 13: just wanted to call it. I love the conversation, but

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01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:23,920
Speaker 13: I just want to make sure that the long term

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01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:27,120
Speaker 13: use part of it is thrown into it, because that's

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01:34:27,160 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 13: when you start to see a lot more complications. It's

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01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:33,559
Speaker 13: not if you're using for ten ten months to have.

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Speaker 1: You all right. That's true.

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Speaker 6: There's people who had kidney shut downs using center prol

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Speaker 6: and using other forms of these drugs. If you look

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Speaker 6: at something like met Foreman, the first listed side effect

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Speaker 6: and mess forming is death from lactic acidosis, and that

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Speaker 6: lactic acidosis can come with someone who's had a kidney injury,

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Speaker 6: particularly someone who's got high blood pressures been using these

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Speaker 6: high blood pressure medica, particularly with center filled. American Heart

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Speaker 6: Association says that you can get kidney acute renal failure

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Speaker 6: from short term and long term use of these medications.

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Speaker 6: But at least let's even just let's just say that

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Speaker 6: we want to talk about the long term use of

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Speaker 6: these medications. Well, you're going to have to find another

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01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:23,960
Speaker 6: alternative for these medications, and the alternatives do exist. There

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01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:26,599
Speaker 6: are studies on the US Nationalist to the Health website

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01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:29,000
Speaker 6: to show that allos refecttract works just as well as

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01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:33,439
Speaker 6: capti pro long term and short term. So here you've

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01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:37,400
Speaker 6: got one thing, capter pro, that causes a cute renal failure.

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01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:39,479
Speaker 6: It will lower your blood pressure, but you're looking at

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01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:41,920
Speaker 6: a cute renal failure. And then you have something like

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01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:44,800
Speaker 6: olive efexstract that will lower your blood pressure but will

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Speaker 6: not cause renal failure.

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Speaker 14: But this is not given as an option for people.

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01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 14: The option that you're given is a pharmaceutical, and people

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01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 14: thinking that the pharmaceutical is going to solve the problem

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01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:56,720
Speaker 14: short term and long term and the reason why the

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Speaker 14: long term conversation is important one and I'm glad that

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01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:01,760
Speaker 14: you brought a up, is because when you're told that

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01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:04,360
Speaker 14: you have high blood pressure, you're told also that you're

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Speaker 14: going to have to take this medication for the rest

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Speaker 14: of your life.

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Speaker 6: So there goes the long term part. And then you

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01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:11,760
Speaker 6: have diabetes, they say you have it for the rest

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01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:13,760
Speaker 6: of your life, so you have to take these medications

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01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:16,160
Speaker 6: for the rest of your life. So my point is,

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01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:18,519
Speaker 6: let's prevent the problem in the first place, and if

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01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:20,960
Speaker 6: you do have the problem, let's try to reverse the

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01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:24,599
Speaker 6: problems with a non toxic approach, which we've been able

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01:36:24,640 --> 01:36:27,120
Speaker 6: to do. We've been able to reverse high blood pressure

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01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:30,200
Speaker 6: and diabetes under thirty days, and we have the evidence.

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01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:35,360
Speaker 6: Race have the evidence on our website. So really and truly,

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01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:37,960
Speaker 6: there are studies that show that there are herbs that

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01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:41,680
Speaker 6: work just as well as these pharmaceuticals, but that is

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01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:45,240
Speaker 6: not what's being pushed because there's no money in anything

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01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:48,880
Speaker 6: but patented drugs. So this is what is being pushed

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01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:53,200
Speaker 6: by the pharmaceutical medical conflict because it's about return on investment.

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01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:54,360
Speaker 6: There is no return on.

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01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:57,400
Speaker 1: Investor because you're raising the clock and we got doctor

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01:36:57,640 --> 01:37:01,800
Speaker 1: shape on deck. People still is conferent California. Serena, can

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01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:05,000
Speaker 1: you make a question real quick? And the other question too.

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01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:07,360
Speaker 1: I got a tweet question for you, doctor Henry. They

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01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:10,000
Speaker 1: want to know if if ground flax seed used in

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01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 1: smoothies is also bad or good for you? So I'll

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01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:16,040
Speaker 1: let you answer those two questions so we can wrap

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01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:18,599
Speaker 1: up here. But Serita, your question real quick for doctor

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Speaker 1: doctor Heru.

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Speaker 15: Okay, doctor, thank you, Carl, doctor Haru. My daughter, she

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Speaker 15: made zucchini pasta. Are you stating that any pasta.

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Speaker 6: Is no good or just no? No? We based pasta.

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01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:35,679
Speaker 6: We babe, pasta pasta is fine.

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Speaker 15: Okay, okay, thank you, thank you, Carl.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Sister Serena. All right. The other

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01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:44,240
Speaker 1: the tweet came in. Will you ask the doctor if

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01:37:44,240 --> 01:37:47,360
Speaker 1: ground flax seed used in smoothies is also good or

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01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:47,840
Speaker 1: bad for you?

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Speaker 6: It's bad for you because it's going to raise your

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01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:54,360
Speaker 6: aswers in levels artificially in men and women. And when

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01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:57,080
Speaker 6: women get too much answers and they become estwergen dominant,

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01:37:57,120 --> 01:38:02,759
Speaker 6: and it leads to things like endometriosis, PCs, ovarian cysts,

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01:38:03,240 --> 01:38:10,200
Speaker 6: even some breast cancers. It also leads to infertility, strong menstrual,

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01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:13,680
Speaker 6: cycles of heavy bleeding, pain, and all of that is

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01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:18,200
Speaker 6: associated with increased esrogen. For men, increased estrogen is going

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01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:20,479
Speaker 6: to affect your libido and it's also going to spoil

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01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:23,599
Speaker 6: your prostate. So just you know, people can do further

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01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:27,080
Speaker 6: research and just put in phyto estrogen food list and

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01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:29,680
Speaker 6: you'll see that flax seed is number one, So you

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01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:32,200
Speaker 6: want to cut out all flak seed products after that

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01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:34,919
Speaker 6: is SOI you want to cut out all soy products,

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01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:37,320
Speaker 6: toe food, soy milk, all of that. It's going to

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01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:39,840
Speaker 6: add more estrogen to your body. For the women, going

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01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:44,439
Speaker 6: to create tumors and kynecological issues, infertility, all those things

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01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:48,680
Speaker 6: go along with it. And men. For men, it's going

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01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:52,799
Speaker 6: to cause prostatitis and also a decrease in your libido

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01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:56,480
Speaker 6: because you're adding estrogen into your body, you know, unnecessarily.

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01:38:56,720 --> 01:38:59,200
Speaker 6: So this is a very important conversation. But I would

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01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:01,240
Speaker 6: just tell people, you know, we've been on for some time,

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01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 6: and I know there's you know, another guest that you

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01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:06,200
Speaker 6: have to segue to. Please just go to herbal results

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01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:08,439
Speaker 6: dot net. Your best time would be spent on our

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Speaker 6: testimonials page. We created that page with long form interviews

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Speaker 6: with customers who have and clients who have come to

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01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:22,760
Speaker 6: us with these seemingly irreversible problems that your doctors are

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Speaker 6: going to tell you're going to have the rest of

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Speaker 6: your life. We've been able to reverse these problems without medication,

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01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:30,320
Speaker 6: and this is just a fact, and so just look

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01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 6: at it and then look at the scientific studies. You

1804
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:35,639
Speaker 6: want to reach us, you want to look at what

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01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:39,599
Speaker 6: protocols work for different things, just contact us at info

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Speaker 6: urble results dot net. We have a great list of

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01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:47,760
Speaker 6: products on our website that address different problems and have

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01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:50,920
Speaker 6: done so reliably for over a decade. So you know,

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Speaker 6: I'd like to say thank you, Carl, thank you for

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01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:58,320
Speaker 6: making this platform available for this type of information where

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01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:01,320
Speaker 6: people can actually look at to what's being said, vet

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01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:03,920
Speaker 6: what's being said, and see if it will benefit them

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01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:06,840
Speaker 6: in any way. And our proposition is that you know,

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01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 6: we're not bankrupting people. The products are actually quite cheap

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01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:14,080
Speaker 6: and you're able to heal yourself from the comfort of

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01:40:14,120 --> 01:40:16,400
Speaker 6: your own home. If you have high blood pressure, get

1817
01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:19,960
Speaker 6: a high blood pressure kit. Check your blood pressure every day,

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01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:22,720
Speaker 6: see if our protocol is working. If it's working, continued,

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01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:25,800
Speaker 6: it's not working to start it and move to something else.

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Speaker 6: You know, I really believe in results. I don't believe

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01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:32,519
Speaker 6: in anyone loving what I'm doing or loving the brand.

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01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:36,160
Speaker 6: Love the results. That's what's important. And judge me by

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01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:36,879
Speaker 6: my results.

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Speaker 1: So that's what's Give your webshine email address again before

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Speaker 1: we let.

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Speaker 6: You go verbal results dot net and the website that's

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Speaker 6: the website and the email address is info at verbal

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Speaker 6: results dot net. And I would just just give one announcement,

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Speaker 6: one quick announcement to the audience. People ask me where

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01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:01,760
Speaker 6: I'm like to train. I just we just did Atlanta

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01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:07,200
Speaker 6: this weekend with live testimonials of cancer reversals and teaching peopowerup,

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01:41:07,479 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 6: you know, resolve their blood pressure and diabetes issues and

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Speaker 6: the true cause of it. And I will be in

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01:41:12,439 --> 01:41:17,400
Speaker 6: New York on the weekend after next and uh that

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01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:21,920
Speaker 6: is going to be on the twenty fourth of October,

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Speaker 6: that is a Friday, and that's at five pm. I

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Speaker 6: will be at Nicholas Brooklyn, Nicholas Brooklyn, thirteen ninety six

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Speaker 6: Fulton Street, Brooklyn, New York, one one one two one

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Speaker 6: one sixth Just you can reach me there, just reach

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Speaker 6: me on my website or see me there thirteen ninety

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Speaker 6: six Fulton Street, Brooklyn, New York one two one one

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Speaker 6: six at five pm, Nicholas, Brooklyn. And the day after

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Speaker 6: I will be in the Bronx and I will be

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Speaker 6: that's October twenty fifth at one pm, and we're going

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01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:58,240
Speaker 6: to talk about reversing cancer, high blood pressure and diabetes.

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01:41:58,920 --> 01:42:01,200
Speaker 6: I have a couple of testim commonials come in of

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01:42:01,400 --> 01:42:04,719
Speaker 6: people in New York City who had their cancer reverse

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01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:06,680
Speaker 6: or their high blood pressure dive. They will come in

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01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 6: person and talk and you can ask them questions of

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01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:12,599
Speaker 6: how they were able to do it, because that's very important.

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01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:14,760
Speaker 6: This is the level of evidence and proof that we're

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01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:18,479
Speaker 6: giving people. That is October twenty fifth at one pm

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01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:24,000
Speaker 6: at Green Earth Apothecary. That is one five three dryser Loop, Bronx,

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Speaker 6: New York, one zero four seven five. It is a

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01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:31,400
Speaker 6: lecture on reverse in cancer, high blood pressure and diabetes.

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Speaker 6: October twenty fifth, one pm, Green Earth Apothecary. Those are

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Speaker 6: the Carl's listeners in the New York area. Bring your family,

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01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:43,559
Speaker 6: bring your friends, bring your parents, bring your children, and

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01:42:43,720 --> 01:42:47,439
Speaker 6: come learn this information and learn how to reverse your

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Speaker 6: illnesses from the comfort of your home in a real

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01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:54,280
Speaker 6: way where you can actually measure the results by you know,

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01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:57,120
Speaker 6: taking your blood glucose to the glucose monitor every day.

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Speaker 6: Make sure what I'm saying is working.

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Speaker 1: We got to cut it because we just flat out

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Speaker 1: of time. We got it next day, I guess. And

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Speaker 1: thank you, uh, you know, for sharing this information with

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Speaker 1: us this morning. You all right thirteen at the top,

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Speaker 1: doctor Kevin Shockley, grand Rising, and thank you for being

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01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:16,600
Speaker 1: so patient with us this morning, doctor Shokley.

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Speaker 5: Oh, grand Rising, And that didn't take patience. I was

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01:43:20,040 --> 01:43:23,440
Speaker 5: learning a ton and so I think it's really important

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01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:25,640
Speaker 5: you know that we paid close attention to what the

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01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:28,200
Speaker 5: doctor is saying. I you know, you can think you're

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01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:30,799
Speaker 5: doing healthy things and then you listen to the doctor

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01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:32,280
Speaker 5: and you're like, wait a minute. You know, I didn't

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01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:34,880
Speaker 5: even think about this or that. So I was in

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01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:38,439
Speaker 5: learning mode as well. That was an outstanding segment. Thank

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01:43:38,479 --> 01:43:40,040
Speaker 5: you so much for having me on as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're always in a learning mode, doc, and I'm

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Speaker 1: going to learn some stuff from you too, because this

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Speaker 1: is a situation we call the school to prison pipeline.

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Speaker 3: And I think it was.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Kunjufu who Juwanza Kanjufu came up with that, Correct

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Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong on that. Is there any truth

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Speaker 1: that about this, you know, school to prison pipeline or

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01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:03,880
Speaker 1: is there something that doctor than Jufou if he did.

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Speaker 5: Come up with it, well, I do believe that he was.

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Speaker 5: If not the he was one of the people who

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Speaker 5: helped us understand that our young people are going being

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Speaker 5: trained to go straight from the school, which is a

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Speaker 5: prison of its own in many ways, into the prison.

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01:44:23,880 --> 01:44:27,799
Speaker 5: Where he talked about they're able to determine the number

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01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:31,840
Speaker 5: of jail sales they're going to need based upon third

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01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:36,360
Speaker 5: grade reading scores. And in the film that I most

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Speaker 5: recently did, Cultural War focused on Black Youth, which people

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01:44:40,640 --> 01:44:45,040
Speaker 5: can watch on TV, Amazon Prime, Apple TV Plus, et cetera,

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Speaker 5: Doctor Kunjufu made one of his last appearances actually in

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01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:56,840
Speaker 5: that film, and he talked about how they the governors

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01:44:56,880 --> 01:45:01,880
Speaker 5: of different states used his research on how you could

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01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:04,839
Speaker 5: predict how many bits you know, how you could predict

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01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:07,640
Speaker 5: whether or not children were going to end up in

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01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:12,000
Speaker 5: jail based on reading scores to detection to help them

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01:45:12,040 --> 01:45:14,479
Speaker 5: figure out how many prisons sales they were going to create.

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Speaker 5: He you can tell when he talks about it in

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01:45:16,880 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 5: the tell how irritated and disgusted he is with them

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01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:24,839
Speaker 5: using his research for such nefarious purposes. So yes, indeed,

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Speaker 5: doctor Producu was definitely on the case with that right

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Speaker 5: and hold.

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Speaker 1: Up though right there, I hate to do this. Well,

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Speaker 1: we're going to take a short break here in doctor

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Speaker 1: Canjufuru's course, best known for his book Countering the Conspiracy

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Speaker 1: to Destroy Black Boys. You've got to talk about, you know,

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01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:40,840
Speaker 1: talk about young people, how young people? What can we

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Speaker 1: do some of those ones, not all the ones that

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01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:45,479
Speaker 1: are you know, wildly out, but there's there's a few,

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01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:47,559
Speaker 1: and those are the ones that make the news. What

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Speaker 1: are your thoughts? You want to jump in on this

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Speaker 1: conversation with doctor Kevin Shockley, he's an educator. Reach out

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Speaker 1: to us at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight

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Speaker 1: seventy six and we'll take your phone calls next and

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Speaker 1: Grand Rising family, thanks for rolling with on this Monday morning.

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Speaker 1: That's Indigenous People's Day. Some people still say it's Columbus Day. Anyway,

1923
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Speaker 1: it's a federal holiday and so thank you for checking

1924
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Speaker 1: in this morning. I guess is doctor Kemick Shockney, doctor

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Speaker 1: sharkne is it's also a filmmaker as well, but he's

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Speaker 1: an educator. He deals with the African centered education, if

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Speaker 1: you will, and doctor Shockkie. One of the reason why

1928
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Speaker 1: we called you, there's a report in Washington, d C.

1929
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Speaker 1: The city council wanted to extend the curfew because they

1930
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Speaker 1: thought that the IEO people in the district were causing

1931
01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:30,479
Speaker 1: all these problems during the summer months because school's out.

1932
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Speaker 1: Now school's back, and so they want to drop the curfew.

1933
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Speaker 1: But they've got I guess a couple of members or

1934
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Speaker 1: maybe one member the uh DC City Council wants to

1935
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Speaker 1: extend the curfew. And I just wanting to get your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on that. Is this a stage where they're setting

1937
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:46,960
Speaker 1: to criminalize our young people for some trivial events or

1938
01:46:47,479 --> 01:46:49,439
Speaker 1: do they really need it, because some people say it's

1939
01:46:49,479 --> 01:46:51,639
Speaker 1: because of these young people on the streets of Washington, DC,

1940
01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:54,439
Speaker 1: And we've heard stories of some of what's been going on.

1941
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Speaker 1: That's why Trump sent in the troops. So I want

1942
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Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on.

1943
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Speaker 5: All tend to addressing a symptom as opposed to a

1944
01:47:04,560 --> 01:47:09,720
Speaker 5: larger problem. For example, there are people, you know, there

1945
01:47:09,720 --> 01:47:12,120
Speaker 5: are lots of teachers who talk about the problems they

1946
01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:16,400
Speaker 5: have in classrooms, particularly with black male students. There are

1947
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Speaker 5: people who talk about the rowdiness of our young people

1948
01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:23,360
Speaker 5: on subway trains, but there are people who talk about

1949
01:47:23,400 --> 01:47:25,760
Speaker 5: the issues with our young people and the language that

1950
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:30,479
Speaker 5: they use, et cetera around older people. All of these

1951
01:47:30,520 --> 01:47:36,160
Speaker 5: things are noticing symptoms of a larger problem. If you

1952
01:47:36,200 --> 01:47:40,040
Speaker 5: think about what Neelie Fuller has said for some years

1953
01:47:40,040 --> 01:47:44,679
Speaker 5: that really we are in one great, big prison system

1954
01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:48,280
Speaker 5: that if we understand the system of racism, white supremacy,

1955
01:47:49,120 --> 01:47:51,920
Speaker 5: what it is and how it works. Until we understand

1956
01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:54,880
Speaker 5: that system, everything else we think we understand well only

1957
01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:59,639
Speaker 5: sort to confuse us. He taught that for about sixty

1958
01:47:59,720 --> 01:48:04,040
Speaker 5: years to us. So what we're missing is that having

1959
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:08,920
Speaker 5: things like curfews, suspending people from school, expelling people from school,

1960
01:48:08,960 --> 01:48:13,560
Speaker 5: locking people up in jail, but not addressing the overarching

1961
01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:16,840
Speaker 5: system of racism white supremacy that has made our entire

1962
01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:22,080
Speaker 5: planet a jail, is not going to actually solve the problem.

1963
01:48:22,640 --> 01:48:25,120
Speaker 5: So I think what we need to do is to

1964
01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:28,360
Speaker 5: put our focus where it needs to be, and that is,

1965
01:48:28,479 --> 01:48:32,400
Speaker 5: how do we save our young people from the larger

1966
01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:36,680
Speaker 5: systems of white supremacy that they're experiencing. So they go

1967
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:41,240
Speaker 5: into school every day and they deal with these distorted images.

1968
01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:44,160
Speaker 5: They're in a society that's dealing with this distorted images

1969
01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:48,960
Speaker 5: assumptions coming from Imagine a black child sitting in a

1970
01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:55,120
Speaker 5: classroom with a teacher who has what we might call

1971
01:48:55,200 --> 01:48:58,000
Speaker 5: the white imagination and how it works in relation to

1972
01:48:58,040 --> 01:49:01,559
Speaker 5: black people. Everybody listening to me who is black nosed

1973
01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:06,280
Speaker 5: that there is a white imagination about who black people are.

1974
01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:12,639
Speaker 5: It's quite distorted, and that when you're forty five and

1975
01:49:12,640 --> 01:49:16,000
Speaker 5: fifty five and twenty five even you can sort of

1976
01:49:16,080 --> 01:49:20,080
Speaker 5: deal with the fact that they're projecting this negativity onto you.

1977
01:49:21,120 --> 01:49:25,920
Speaker 5: But when you're a black youth in schools, those distortions

1978
01:49:26,360 --> 01:49:31,040
Speaker 5: go unchecked. They're unchallenged or unopposed. So you've got this person,

1979
01:49:31,120 --> 01:49:35,280
Speaker 5: and sadly enough, even if the person is black and

1980
01:49:35,320 --> 01:49:40,320
Speaker 5: they're imbued in their mind psychologically with the system of racism,

1981
01:49:40,360 --> 01:49:45,479
Speaker 5: white supremacy, and all of its nasty ideas about black people,

1982
01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:50,200
Speaker 5: there's nobody to offer a counter story for the children

1983
01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:53,800
Speaker 5: who are sitting in those classrooms. There's nobody to sort

1984
01:49:53,800 --> 01:49:57,960
Speaker 5: of protect the humanity of the children. There's nobody in

1985
01:49:58,000 --> 01:50:02,400
Speaker 5: the mayor's office who's creating these policies to say, wait

1986
01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:06,040
Speaker 5: a second, how do we actually deal with the problem

1987
01:50:06,040 --> 01:50:09,439
Speaker 5: that's there. The doctor who was just on just talking

1988
01:50:09,479 --> 01:50:12,920
Speaker 5: about dealing with the actual issue as opposed to just

1989
01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:18,240
Speaker 5: its symptoms by taking medication that eventually kills you. But again,

1990
01:50:18,439 --> 01:50:20,960
Speaker 5: no one to affirm the blackness of these young people,

1991
01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:24,800
Speaker 5: and nobody to affirm who they are. They're consumed then

1992
01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:29,560
Speaker 5: by the stench of white supremacy. Without enough life experience

1993
01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:33,680
Speaker 5: or knowledge he can battle the white supremacist teachers, administration

1994
01:50:34,120 --> 01:50:37,640
Speaker 5: and racist white supremacist systems. We're not in there to

1995
01:50:37,720 --> 01:50:40,720
Speaker 5: do that to save our young people from that. So

1996
01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:43,280
Speaker 5: they can put all the curfews and do all these

1997
01:50:43,320 --> 01:50:46,680
Speaker 5: things that they want to do and keep suspending and expelling,

1998
01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:48,920
Speaker 5: none of that's going to be the thing that solves

1999
01:50:48,960 --> 01:50:54,880
Speaker 5: the problem because they keep missing that the problem is them.

2000
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Speaker 5: So we're going to make the problem are young people

2001
01:50:57,360 --> 01:51:00,599
Speaker 5: instead of so I think that's really what we're looking at.

2002
01:51:00,680 --> 01:51:08,600
Speaker 5: I think we have to deploy knowledge and action that

2003
01:51:08,760 --> 01:51:12,680
Speaker 5: helps us, that helps us put out front poor what

2004
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:16,680
Speaker 5: the real problem is for our young people. There's an

2005
01:51:16,680 --> 01:51:18,519
Speaker 5: attack on our young people, and that's one of the

2006
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Speaker 5: reasons I created the film.

2007
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Speaker 1: Well, let me answer this dog, because it's some of

2008
01:51:24,680 --> 01:51:29,080
Speaker 1: our children are really you know, incusurable, or they're just

2009
01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:32,200
Speaker 1: out there just just just just misbehaving. You know, when

2010
01:51:32,200 --> 01:51:34,800
Speaker 1: we were growing up, we respected our elders. There's no

2011
01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:38,080
Speaker 1: profanity if he you know, yes, ma'am, no, ma'am. And

2012
01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:42,639
Speaker 1: you know we were polite. But there's a core young

2013
01:51:42,720 --> 01:51:45,360
Speaker 1: group of young people. I'm telling young brothers and sisters,

2014
01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:48,960
Speaker 1: and it's just there's two who just have no respect

2015
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:51,840
Speaker 1: for for their elders. What's missing here?

2016
01:51:51,920 --> 01:51:51,960
Speaker 6: What?

2017
01:51:52,120 --> 01:51:55,559
Speaker 1: What? What is it something their parents failed failed to

2018
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Speaker 1: share with them, or what's going on here?

2019
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Speaker 5: Well? I think I heard name off Bar many years ago,

2020
01:52:04,800 --> 01:52:07,919
Speaker 5: and he's got a really interesting, very short book called

2021
01:52:07,960 --> 01:52:11,120
Speaker 5: from mis Education to Education where he uses an example

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01:52:11,920 --> 01:52:15,680
Speaker 5: of a dog that somebody is trying to get to

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01:52:16,200 --> 01:52:19,240
Speaker 5: where I can't remember exactly, but he says the dog

2024
01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:22,120
Speaker 5: is instead of barking, they're trying to get the doll

2025
01:52:22,880 --> 01:52:26,479
Speaker 5: to speak or wear a suit or these kinds of things.

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01:52:26,520 --> 01:52:28,360
Speaker 5: In other words, they're trying to get the dog to

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01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:31,679
Speaker 5: not act like a dog, and they've trained the dog

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01:52:31,840 --> 01:52:37,080
Speaker 5: away from its own dog self. So I think that

2029
01:52:37,640 --> 01:52:41,519
Speaker 5: what's happening is what our brilliant scholars have been telling

2030
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Speaker 5: us for many years, and that is that we're training

2031
01:52:45,400 --> 01:52:48,439
Speaker 5: our young people away from who they are, and they're

2032
01:52:48,479 --> 01:52:54,800
Speaker 5: living in a society that is against them. So when

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01:52:54,840 --> 01:52:56,519
Speaker 5: I get on trains, and when I go out in

2034
01:52:56,560 --> 01:52:59,760
Speaker 5: the public, and when I interact in society, I don't

2035
01:52:59,760 --> 01:53:02,000
Speaker 5: do many other things of course that the that we're

2036
01:53:02,040 --> 01:53:06,799
Speaker 5: talking about these young people are doing. However, the grown

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01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:12,200
Speaker 5: black man that I am feels a lot of what these.

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Speaker 6: Young people feel.

2039
01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:18,280
Speaker 5: Now I'm not sixteen, so I have much better impulse

2040
01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:22,040
Speaker 5: control and much better ability to draw on a set

2041
01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:25,920
Speaker 5: of resources that make that won't have me behaving outwardly

2042
01:53:26,320 --> 01:53:27,519
Speaker 5: the way that they behave.

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01:53:28,240 --> 01:53:29,200
Speaker 16: But do I.

2044
01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:33,519
Speaker 5: Feel what they feel? Yes, Now I can say I've

2045
01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:36,439
Speaker 5: been spending a lot of time in schools, way more

2046
01:53:36,479 --> 01:53:40,679
Speaker 5: than I used to around black youth, and in fact,

2047
01:53:40,680 --> 01:53:44,679
Speaker 5: tomorrow even we'll be spending time in school DC public

2048
01:53:44,680 --> 01:53:48,439
Speaker 5: schools working with black youth. Now, one of the things

2049
01:53:48,439 --> 01:53:51,640
Speaker 5: that I notice about them, and well let me let

2050
01:53:51,640 --> 01:53:53,439
Speaker 5: me let me say this first, one of the things

2051
01:53:53,439 --> 01:53:56,880
Speaker 5: that I notice about myself when I'm in these schools

2052
01:53:57,520 --> 01:54:00,360
Speaker 5: is a lot of the feeling that I have when

2053
01:54:00,400 --> 01:54:04,800
Speaker 5: I was a black youth, myself comes back. There's a

2054
01:54:05,000 --> 01:54:11,240
Speaker 5: general feeling within schools of the anti black, particularly and

2055
01:54:11,360 --> 01:54:15,519
Speaker 5: especially I can speak to black Boy because I'm paying

2056
01:54:15,560 --> 01:54:18,080
Speaker 5: attention because I'm eventually going to do some writing on it,

2057
01:54:18,400 --> 01:54:20,640
Speaker 5: so I'm paying attention to how I feel and what

2058
01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:27,080
Speaker 5: is actually happening. The feeling is one of that system

2059
01:54:27,200 --> 01:54:32,160
Speaker 5: being against you. So if you're sixteen and you feel

2060
01:54:32,200 --> 01:54:34,600
Speaker 5: as though the school system is sort of against you,

2061
01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:37,320
Speaker 5: and then you've got a society where they're hearing about

2062
01:54:37,400 --> 01:54:41,240
Speaker 5: Trayvon Martin and they're hearing about what's happening to all

2063
01:54:41,280 --> 01:54:44,080
Speaker 5: the young people that we could name that have been harmed,

2064
01:54:45,200 --> 01:54:48,160
Speaker 5: you're developing inside of your mind a sense that you

2065
01:54:48,280 --> 01:54:50,520
Speaker 5: need to protect yourself in a sense that this is

2066
01:54:50,560 --> 01:54:52,600
Speaker 5: all against you, and that this is all BS and

2067
01:54:53,600 --> 01:54:56,600
Speaker 5: f this as that you know, they would say. So,

2068
01:54:56,960 --> 01:55:02,240
Speaker 5: I think what's happening really is is we are allowing

2069
01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:05,000
Speaker 5: and I say we as adults, we are allowing our

2070
01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:08,879
Speaker 5: children to be in a system that makes them feel

2071
01:55:10,280 --> 01:55:15,480
Speaker 5: less than It makes them feel attacked, makes them feel unprotected,

2072
01:55:15,960 --> 01:55:19,000
Speaker 5: and their right in many ways, they are What did

2073
01:55:19,040 --> 01:55:22,760
Speaker 5: any of us ever do about George Zimmerman and the

2074
01:55:22,840 --> 01:55:27,280
Speaker 5: fact that he killed a black child. George Zimmerman is

2075
01:55:27,320 --> 01:55:30,520
Speaker 5: still walking around doing whatever he wants to do.

2076
01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:31,040
Speaker 4: Every day.

2077
01:55:31,840 --> 01:55:35,680
Speaker 5: They notice that our young people are noticing that they

2078
01:55:35,720 --> 01:55:40,720
Speaker 5: can be harmed and we can't do anything about it,

2079
01:55:41,200 --> 01:55:44,480
Speaker 5: and or that we're not doing anything about it, and

2080
01:55:44,520 --> 01:55:48,280
Speaker 5: the society is actually getting worse. So they're noticing all

2081
01:55:48,320 --> 01:55:51,360
Speaker 5: these things that are happening. Meanwhile, there's not a safe

2082
01:55:51,400 --> 01:55:56,280
Speaker 5: space within most schools. So what you have is a

2083
01:55:56,320 --> 01:55:59,800
Speaker 5: group of people who are feeling unprotected, unloved, uncared for.

2084
01:56:00,640 --> 01:56:05,320
Speaker 5: Then we're expecting them to somehow using the twelve, fourteen, sixteen,

2085
01:56:05,400 --> 01:56:10,480
Speaker 5: eighteen year old brain to still operate in a compliant,

2086
01:56:10,960 --> 01:56:14,560
Speaker 5: friendly and okay way. I don't know why we would

2087
01:56:14,560 --> 01:56:18,000
Speaker 5: expect that, but we have to understand that this is

2088
01:56:18,120 --> 01:56:22,200
Speaker 5: a war. We are in an actual and in a

2089
01:56:22,280 --> 01:56:27,080
Speaker 5: cultural war. I think when I say that, people might say, yeah, sure,

2090
01:56:27,080 --> 01:56:28,720
Speaker 5: we're in a war, but I don't think people take

2091
01:56:28,760 --> 01:56:31,960
Speaker 5: it literally that that's what's happening every day. We need

2092
01:56:32,000 --> 01:56:34,240
Speaker 5: to use that language more often, that we're in a

2093
01:56:34,320 --> 01:56:39,400
Speaker 5: war in the system of racism, white supremacy, and our

2094
01:56:39,480 --> 01:56:43,480
Speaker 5: young people are a main and major target in that war.

2095
01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:46,680
Speaker 5: So yes, they're going to act out, No, they're not

2096
01:56:46,720 --> 01:56:50,520
Speaker 5: going to give respect. And finally, I think that we

2097
01:56:50,640 --> 01:56:53,480
Speaker 5: do have instances where we're able to teach by children

2098
01:56:54,600 --> 01:56:57,480
Speaker 5: to be respectful and to be kind and to be

2099
01:56:58,080 --> 01:57:01,520
Speaker 5: decent and to figure out ways to deal with this.

2100
01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:04,560
Speaker 5: And those are our African centered schools, which many are

2101
01:57:04,920 --> 01:57:08,640
Speaker 5: home schools that are African centered, African centered buildings that

2102
01:57:08,720 --> 01:57:11,080
Speaker 5: we still have in the suck. When you go into

2103
01:57:11,120 --> 01:57:14,440
Speaker 5: those places, you don't see Black children with those kinds

2104
01:57:14,480 --> 01:57:19,360
Speaker 5: of behaviors. But for some reason we haven't yet said okay,

2105
01:57:19,400 --> 01:57:22,480
Speaker 5: then what we want to do is to push largely

2106
01:57:22,520 --> 01:57:26,120
Speaker 5: for African centered schools so we see a solution. And

2107
01:57:26,160 --> 01:57:28,839
Speaker 5: when I say it a solution, I actually mean solution.

2108
01:57:30,040 --> 01:57:32,880
Speaker 5: None of that goes on in those schools. Children learn

2109
01:57:32,920 --> 01:57:36,760
Speaker 5: in those schools, children come out, Black children come out competitive.

2110
01:57:37,080 --> 01:57:40,680
Speaker 5: We even have instances such as African American Academy and

2111
01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:45,880
Speaker 5: Chick Elementary School and Nation House School. We have examples

2112
01:57:45,880 --> 01:57:50,680
Speaker 5: of children, Black children in those instances, in those institutions

2113
01:57:51,040 --> 01:57:59,440
Speaker 5: coming out surpassing white and Asians as students. So academically

2114
01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:05,040
Speaker 5: in eurocentric education as well as the acrocentric education, so

2115
01:58:05,640 --> 01:58:09,040
Speaker 5: We have the data that says this is that business

2116
01:58:09,040 --> 01:58:13,520
Speaker 5: schools work better for black children, But for some reason,

2117
01:58:14,680 --> 01:58:16,920
Speaker 5: the black community has not decided that they want to

2118
01:58:16,960 --> 01:58:19,080
Speaker 5: take that on and make that as big of a

2119
01:58:19,160 --> 01:58:21,160
Speaker 5: thing as we should. That's the thing that's going to

2120
01:58:21,200 --> 01:58:22,000
Speaker 5: say to our kids though.

2121
01:58:23,960 --> 01:58:26,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's addicted to white right there, because they

2122
01:58:26,480 --> 01:58:29,080
Speaker 1: still think that the white man's eye is colder, his

2123
01:58:29,200 --> 01:58:31,800
Speaker 1: sugar sweeter, and it's water wetter. And that's why they're

2124
01:58:31,800 --> 01:58:34,840
Speaker 1: still embracing those public school system. That's why their children

2125
01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:38,360
Speaker 1: are having problems. But do the problem stem from what's

2126
01:58:38,360 --> 01:58:41,480
Speaker 1: going on in the home, doctor Shaka? Is it because

2127
01:58:42,560 --> 01:58:46,320
Speaker 1: these same who disrespect people outside probably disrespect their parents.

2128
01:58:46,040 --> 01:58:48,840
Speaker 1: And as you know the numbers, they tell us that

2129
01:58:49,240 --> 01:58:52,480
Speaker 1: many of most of the sixty seventy probably more a

2130
01:58:52,560 --> 01:58:55,600
Speaker 1: black households are headed by a single a single black woman.

2131
01:58:56,120 --> 01:58:59,480
Speaker 1: Is that the issue that we're dealing with here, Well.

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Speaker 5: Once again, I think it's a huge issue, but it's

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Speaker 5: a symptom too. The home is also a prison. The

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Speaker 5: home is inside the system of racism, white supremacy. Thank

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Speaker 5: you Neely fuller By for helping us to understand that

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Speaker 5: the entire planet is a white supremacist prison. So in

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Speaker 5: order to he says, what we want to do is

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Speaker 5: to replace the system of white supremacy with a system

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Speaker 5: of justice. And I think that what said for us,

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Speaker 5: justice looks like some of the things that you see

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Speaker 5: black folks building for black children and the institutions that

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Speaker 5: we build for our children. And what these African centered

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Speaker 5: schools actually also do is parent training, training parents to

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Speaker 5: give them the political and often economic power to better

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Speaker 5: understand schools and to take some of the barriers that

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Speaker 5: are in parents way of doing good parenting away. Yes,

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Speaker 5: that is another symptom.

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Speaker 6: Now, so.

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Speaker 5: If you have never seen a model of good parenting

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Speaker 5: because you didn't have good parents, then it would be

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Speaker 5: odd for us to expect you to do good parenting.

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Speaker 5: But you've never seen it, you've never had any training.

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Speaker 5: You don't understand what that looks like because of it

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Speaker 5: up coming up from slavery. At what point did they

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Speaker 5: stop and say, hold on, we've now got to put

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Speaker 5: into black people what they need because we took all

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Speaker 5: the good that they had in them when they came

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Speaker 5: from the African continent. We took that out, we beat

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Speaker 5: it out of them. Now we need to do something

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Speaker 5: so that they can have what they need. That never happened.

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Speaker 5: So at what point were we supposed to start acting

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Speaker 5: like we have since if our sense was beat out

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Speaker 5: of us and never a program to put it back

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Speaker 5: in there. I don't know. I don't know why people

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Speaker 5: expect I forgot who are some psychology maybe Amos Wilson

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Speaker 5: who said that this system is lucky that we don't

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Speaker 5: respond to it the way we really should be responding

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Speaker 5: to it, that we actually had the amount of self

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Speaker 5: control to keep ourselves from responding to them the way

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Speaker 5: we really should be. I think it's a miracle that

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Speaker 5: we're doing as well as we are, considering the fact

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Speaker 5: that we really have never had a program of fixing

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Speaker 5: the problems that have been put on our head since

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Speaker 5: the system of racism and white white supremacy is so

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Speaker 5: pervasive in our lives. So yes, I do think parenting

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Speaker 5: is an enormous problem. I just don't know why or

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Speaker 5: where Black people were supposed to pick up on U

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Speaker 5: having this good parenting when we don't. We when since

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Speaker 5: the time of slavery, we haven't been allowed to reattach

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Speaker 5: we haven't, we haven't, and we haven't decided as well

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Speaker 5: to reattach to who we are as people of African descent,

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Speaker 5: and create systems and communities that we that we that

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Speaker 5: we like, that that worked well for us. And then

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Speaker 5: on top of it, when we have created communities that

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Speaker 5: work for us and that are thriving, we've had our

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Speaker 5: own government to blow them up literally like they did

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Speaker 5: with uh Black Wall Street in Rosewood and so many

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Speaker 5: other examples around the country, and you know, catching people,

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Speaker 5: you know, killing people who are really good examples for

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Speaker 5: black people to look to, and like I said, just

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Speaker 5: destroying anything black that actually works. The same way I

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Speaker 5: mentioned that school a second ago, Chick Elementary School, a

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Speaker 5: school in Kansas City where black children were out performing everybody.

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Speaker 5: They destroyed that too. They harmed the principle uh put

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Speaker 5: some made her give up her job there. They did

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Speaker 5: the same thing to Fair Rivers, who was the principal

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Speaker 5: of Saying Home with Shoel in Michigan, they.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, don't rite that dowt. We've got to step

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Speaker 1: aside for a few moments. I'll let you pick it

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Speaker 1: up from there. San Chola School in Michigan. Also a

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Speaker 1: tweet tweeter want to Know It says, if you teach

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Speaker 1: young people to respect elderly people. By respecting the young people.

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Speaker 1: It says we got to respect them, they'll respect us.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to get your thoughts on that family. You

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Speaker 1: two can join our discussion with doctor Kemick Shockley is

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Speaker 1: an educator. Reach out to us at eight hundred four

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Speaker 1: five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your

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Speaker 1: phone calls next and Grand Rising family, thanks us sharing

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Speaker 1: a part of your Monday morning with us. On this

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Speaker 1: Indigenous People's Day, it's a federal holiday. Some people still

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Speaker 1: call it Columbus Day, but the federal government has closed.

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Speaker 1: The banks are closed as well, so there's no school

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Speaker 1: as well. And we talk about students right now, especially

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Speaker 1: in our students Black students. Before we go back to

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Speaker 1: our guest, the Dr Shockley. Doctor Kemmick Shockley is an

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Speaker 1: educator and a filmmakers. Want to remind you come up

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Speaker 1: later this week. We're going to discuss the anniversary of

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Speaker 1: the Media in Man March with two of the architects

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Speaker 1: the first run Reverend doctor Willie Wilson and also creator

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Speaker 1: doctor Malana Kurenger. Both of them are going to be here.

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Speaker 1: Both of them are one of the first two people

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Speaker 1: that Minister Farcone call when he came up with the

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Speaker 1: idea for the Million Man March. In fact, doctor Krenger

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Speaker 1: wrote the manifesto for the Million Man March. So we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk to them. I'm going to hear some

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Speaker 1: some behind the scenes deals and some of the meetings

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Speaker 1: they held before before it came to fruition. Also, Chairman

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Speaker 1: Fred Hampson is going to be with us, and civil

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Speaker 1: rights activist attorney Daryl Jones will join us as well.

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Speaker 1: And Darrell's a leading a protest on Capitol Hill this Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: The Supreme Court's going to hear have a hearing about

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Speaker 1: whether or not to dismantle one of our civil rights

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Speaker 1: that gave us black votes the right to vote. That

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Speaker 1: they're going to discuss that. So Attorney Daryl Jones and

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Speaker 1: his group is going to be out there protesting on

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Speaker 1: Capitol Hill. So if you are in Baltimore, make sure

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Speaker 1: you keep your radio locked in tied on ten ten WLB.

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Speaker 1: If you're in the DMV though, we're rolling on FM

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Speaker 1: ninety five point nine and AM fourteen fifteen WL. All right,

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Speaker 1: doctor Shock, they I'll let you finish your thought then

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Speaker 1: I'll let you respond to this tweet that we got

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Speaker 1: from one of our listeners.

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Speaker 5: Sure, I was talking about a woman named Frere Rivers

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Speaker 5: who had a school in Lansing, Michigan, where black children

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Speaker 5: were performing above the norm, and they gave her all

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Speaker 5: the hell they could give her, and to the point

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Speaker 5: they started questioning why she was on the board as

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Speaker 5: well as was acting as principal of the school. Now,

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Speaker 5: during the time the school was getting itself together and

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Speaker 5: not performing above the norm, there were no issues. It

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Speaker 5: wasn't until after she started making the great strides that

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Speaker 5: they gave her so many problems. I actually had an

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Speaker 5: opportunity to interview her and put she's in the document

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Speaker 5: series as well, And like I was saying, they did

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Speaker 5: the same thing to now her name is slipping at me.

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Speaker 5: But at Chick Elementary School in Kansas City. Another example

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Speaker 5: I'll give is when they finally got the social studies

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Speaker 5: department together at Howard University Middle School, and really they

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Speaker 5: had a sure that to Shango and Billy Shaka, who

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Speaker 5: went into the school and changed the trajectory of the

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Speaker 5: sort of self hatred that a lot of the students

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Speaker 5: were experiencing in there. The principal of the school ended

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Speaker 5: up firing him from his position, giving him all kinds

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Speaker 5: of problems. That story actually Matt went all over the

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Speaker 5: country and they ended up making her the donkey of

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Speaker 5: the day on the Breakfast Club. That was an interesting thing.

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Speaker 5: But a lot of people in the community were wondering,

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Speaker 5: why would you get good of a teacher at a

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Speaker 5: place like Howard University Middle School who's turning things around

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Speaker 5: for the young people. And it's really but so many examples,

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Speaker 5: and some of them I talk about in the book

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Speaker 5: that I did called African Center of Education, Theory and Practice,

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Speaker 5: as well as have some of these people including Tshondo

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Speaker 5: in Billy Shaka and other folks in the Doctor series.

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Speaker 5: So we had done some documenting and are working to

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Speaker 5: document more more instances. So the fun thing I'll say

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Speaker 5: on that is a mentor of mine, Doctor Asa Hillier,

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Speaker 5: before he passed away, was the person that alerted me

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Speaker 5: to the fact that many of the most effective teachers

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Speaker 5: of black children are fired. And he talked about abdu

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Speaker 5: Lahlem Muhammad, who they called the Math Doctor, who said

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Speaker 5: he could teach math to anybody, no matter how difficult

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Speaker 5: of a time you're having learning math. Doctor Abdul Ali

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Speaker 5: Mohammad was able to teach teach Mathew to you the

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Speaker 5: trouble that he had in at the different places where

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Speaker 5: he worked as a professor, including Lincoln University. So I

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Speaker 5: really think that.

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Speaker 17: We we are. It's like an unbelievable examples of war

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Speaker 17: being waged against black people, even not just burning stuff

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Speaker 17: down during Wall Street, Rosewood, Bronsville, et cetera, but also

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Speaker 17: when we're successful at.

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Speaker 5: Doing the things that we need to do for our children,

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Speaker 5: the kind of problems that we can have of that.

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Speaker 5: So I think we just have to understand that it

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Speaker 5: really is about who's going to control Black children, who's

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Speaker 5: going to have control over their minds.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what some of our scholars say, that the

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Speaker 1: fight is for the mind. Her mind. Doctor Lennon Jeffery says,

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Speaker 1: that's the big fight. But here's the tweet question that

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Speaker 1: I have for you from one of our listeners. He says,

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Speaker 1: you teach young people to respect elderly people by respecting

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Speaker 1: the young people, and it will carry over. It says,

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Speaker 1: we've got to respect that young people. Is that something

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Speaker 1: you agree with?

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Speaker 17: I agree.

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Speaker 5: I think that we should respect young people. I think

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Speaker 5: what we should try and do is to be a

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Speaker 5: model for what we want the young people to be.

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Speaker 5: So I think that's yeah, I have no issues with that.

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Speaker 5: I think it's a true statement.

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Speaker 1: Okay, guess some folks want to talk to you with

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Speaker 1: thirteen away from the top down because it's calling from Connecticut.

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Speaker 1: Is on to Cliffe with doctor Sharkley.

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Speaker 18: A grandising brother, Colin, grandising brother, doctor Sharkley. And thank

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Speaker 18: you so much for your response. And I agree for

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Speaker 18: the most part of what you're saying. However, there is

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Speaker 18: a responsibility and this was the Honorable Minisuleuis fhurri Con when.

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Speaker 17: He pledged because.

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Speaker 18: We have the sixteenth, we have the thirtieth anniversary. He

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Speaker 18: gave us the blueprint. And it seems like what we

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Speaker 18: have is we have our rappers, our entertainers completely going

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Speaker 18: a gets with the Honorable miniscule Louis fir Cone, and

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Speaker 18: it seems to see, it seems to be that they

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Speaker 18: have more influence over our children than the righteousness coming

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Speaker 18: from the Honorable Minisuleuis Furykne. So we got rappers man

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Speaker 18: making drill music, trap music, and so we have our

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Speaker 18: youth glimorizing and being more involved in that opposed to

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Speaker 18: listening and keeping the pledge of the honorbo Minisule Louis

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Speaker 18: farra Con. So when we talk about racism that exists,

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Speaker 18: it does exist. But when we have our own youth

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Speaker 18: that make a decision, a conscious decision to be counterproductive,

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Speaker 18: then will follows that. And so we're talking about black excellence.

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Speaker 18: We don't need these individuals. They're just as bad as

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Speaker 18: the white supremacist and white racism that we're dealing with.

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Speaker 18: They're not productive in helping our community. Does that make

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Speaker 18: a little bit of sense?

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Speaker 5: A little bit? But I think the thing that we

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Speaker 5: want to focus on is what Meeie Fuller has says

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Speaker 5: why it started with Neelie Fuller that we are on

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Speaker 5: a plantation. So the rappers are also on a plantation,

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Speaker 5: and they're on a plantation where they are being told, hey,

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Speaker 5: you can get yourself off the plantation, will give you

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Speaker 5: millions of dollars and goal change it, et cetera if

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02:10:49,280 --> 02:10:52,840
Speaker 5: you will help us with our project and program of

2345
02:10:52,960 --> 02:10:57,600
Speaker 5: destroying your people. So, because we don't have an effective

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02:10:57,760 --> 02:11:00,440
Speaker 5: counter to that where we would say we'll give you

2347
02:11:00,480 --> 02:11:03,960
Speaker 5: millions of dollars to not do it, it's happening. So

2348
02:11:04,440 --> 02:11:08,800
Speaker 5: it also happens in society in general, where what happens

2349
02:11:08,840 --> 02:11:11,240
Speaker 5: is that people take jobs. You may not be getting

2350
02:11:11,280 --> 02:11:15,080
Speaker 5: paid millions of dollars, but you comply on your job

2351
02:11:15,160 --> 02:11:17,320
Speaker 5: with things that you know are not good for people

2352
02:11:17,360 --> 02:11:21,640
Speaker 5: of African descent, because you also on a lower level

2353
02:11:21,680 --> 02:11:24,280
Speaker 5: and scale than the rapper, but on a lower level

2354
02:11:24,320 --> 02:11:27,320
Speaker 5: and scale. You are also not saying you personally, but

2355
02:11:27,400 --> 02:11:30,080
Speaker 5: we are compliant in a system that we know is

2356
02:11:30,160 --> 02:11:33,400
Speaker 5: causing our destruction. So I agree, and of course I

2357
02:11:33,440 --> 02:11:35,520
Speaker 5: was at the Millionaire Marnch and I totally agree with

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02:11:35,640 --> 02:11:39,000
Speaker 5: what the minister was saying, and I think that yes,

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02:11:39,160 --> 02:11:42,600
Speaker 5: it's real what the minister is teaching, and we must

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02:11:42,640 --> 02:11:45,200
Speaker 5: do that, and we have to find a way to

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02:11:45,240 --> 02:11:50,120
Speaker 5: stop the anti black idiocy that it's being put into

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02:11:50,160 --> 02:11:53,120
Speaker 5: the music. However, we have to understand once again, that's

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02:11:53,120 --> 02:11:57,840
Speaker 5: a symptom. So that is simply a system of being

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02:11:57,960 --> 02:12:02,200
Speaker 5: in a system that is white supremacists and anti black,

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02:12:02,640 --> 02:12:06,040
Speaker 5: and they're using money because they know how effective they

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02:12:06,080 --> 02:12:08,280
Speaker 5: can be if they can get us to put all

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02:12:08,320 --> 02:12:10,760
Speaker 5: that stuff to rhyme and make it all fit with

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02:12:10,840 --> 02:12:14,360
Speaker 5: our way of being as people. And the rhythmic patterns

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02:12:14,360 --> 02:12:18,480
Speaker 5: within us. So I agree with the idea that it's destructive.

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Speaker 5: I just think we have to add to it and

2371
02:12:21,240 --> 02:12:25,839
Speaker 5: understanding that all of them, all of us, including the rappers,

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02:12:26,360 --> 02:12:29,520
Speaker 5: including the actors, and the other people who are paid

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02:12:29,600 --> 02:12:33,360
Speaker 5: high salaries, are all a part of the white supremacist

2374
02:12:33,360 --> 02:12:38,200
Speaker 5: system and are in the white supremacist jail that Nelie Fuller.

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Speaker 6: Is talking about.

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Speaker 5: So I can agree with that in part.

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Speaker 1: You know, all right, ten away from the topic, let

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02:12:43,160 --> 02:12:45,640
Speaker 1: me share this that I read on one of the

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02:12:45,680 --> 02:12:48,760
Speaker 1: social media There's two children who attend the same school,

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Speaker 1: and they were their parents, and they ran into each

2381
02:12:51,480 --> 02:12:55,360
Speaker 1: other the supermarket and for all the you know, one's

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02:12:55,400 --> 02:12:57,080
Speaker 1: black and one is white. Well they thought it was white.

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Speaker 1: She's actually Spanish. So the Spanish youngster, young girl ran

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02:13:02,040 --> 02:13:03,600
Speaker 1: o went to see the black gum. Before she could go,

2385
02:13:03,640 --> 02:13:05,360
Speaker 1: a mother grabbed it by the hand and said in Spanish,

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02:13:05,400 --> 02:13:08,160
Speaker 1: don't don't you know, don't go with the blacks. But

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02:13:08,160 --> 02:13:10,240
Speaker 1: what she the mother did not know that the black

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02:13:10,440 --> 02:13:14,920
Speaker 1: parent whose child she was running to, understood Spanish. And

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02:13:15,120 --> 02:13:17,760
Speaker 1: she was taken back by that because she's wondering, what

2390
02:13:17,800 --> 02:13:20,040
Speaker 1: are they teaching in their homes. And this goes back

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02:13:20,040 --> 02:13:23,160
Speaker 1: to what you with you And I think Clifford's on

2392
02:13:23,280 --> 02:13:26,160
Speaker 1: about the music, the entertainment, that people don't understand that

2393
02:13:26,200 --> 02:13:29,440
Speaker 1: this thing goes worldwide and they see us acting out

2394
02:13:29,480 --> 02:13:32,680
Speaker 1: on stage like this. That's why they where they where.

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02:13:32,680 --> 02:13:34,880
Speaker 1: They have a sort of aversion to us, not just

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02:13:34,920 --> 02:13:37,360
Speaker 1: white folks, not just Spanish, but even black folks, even

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02:13:37,400 --> 02:13:40,240
Speaker 1: brothers and sisters from the continent, because they they think

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02:13:40,240 --> 02:13:43,360
Speaker 1: that what they see on TV, that's that's all we do.

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02:13:43,400 --> 02:13:46,560
Speaker 1: Because they don't know any of us for the most part.

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Speaker 1: So how do we how do we change that around? Doc?

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02:13:49,200 --> 02:13:49,320
Speaker 6: How?

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02:13:49,720 --> 02:13:51,520
Speaker 1: How what can we do to counteract that?

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02:13:52,880 --> 02:13:57,640
Speaker 5: Well, I think that when it comes to so okay,

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02:13:57,640 --> 02:14:00,600
Speaker 5: I'm gonna speak to this from two different sides. One,

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02:14:00,720 --> 02:14:04,080
Speaker 5: I will say the images that are going out around

2406
02:14:04,080 --> 02:14:08,160
Speaker 5: the world about black people, when people are seeing these

2407
02:14:08,240 --> 02:14:12,200
Speaker 5: images of us, the first thing that they need to do,

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02:14:12,280 --> 02:14:13,880
Speaker 5: and I'm gonna talk about what we can do too.

2409
02:14:13,920 --> 02:14:15,680
Speaker 5: But first I'm gonna talk about what they need to

2410
02:14:15,720 --> 02:14:19,280
Speaker 5: do is they need to understand that the images of

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02:14:19,360 --> 02:14:22,760
Speaker 5: them are also quite negative. So you haven't have to

2412
02:14:22,760 --> 02:14:26,160
Speaker 5: come to common sense and say, yes, I see these

2413
02:14:26,160 --> 02:14:29,280
Speaker 5: negative images of black Americans, if that's what we're talking

2414
02:14:29,280 --> 02:14:34,320
Speaker 5: about on television. But there are also extraordinarily negative images

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02:14:34,360 --> 02:14:37,840
Speaker 5: of Africans. So if you're watching that and you're on

2416
02:14:37,920 --> 02:14:41,800
Speaker 5: the continent, you have to click in and say, what

2417
02:14:41,880 --> 02:14:45,280
Speaker 5: are the images that America and others and you're, etcetera

2418
02:14:45,480 --> 02:14:48,480
Speaker 5: portray of Africans right here on the continent. What are

2419
02:14:48,520 --> 02:14:52,760
Speaker 5: the images that American portrays of Latinos right you know,

2420
02:14:52,920 --> 02:14:57,880
Speaker 5: right here, et cetera. So you can't claim ignorance that

2421
02:14:57,920 --> 02:15:00,280
Speaker 5: you just don't know any better, because that's ho you

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02:15:00,320 --> 02:15:03,640
Speaker 5: can see. You have to be able to think about

2423
02:15:03,640 --> 02:15:07,480
Speaker 5: the images of your own group that are being portrayed.

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02:15:07,520 --> 02:15:13,040
Speaker 5: So that's first is you can't just blame that on

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02:15:13,080 --> 02:15:16,240
Speaker 5: the system of white supremacy. You're taking some of it

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02:15:16,440 --> 02:15:25,520
Speaker 5: in for whatever reason, and you're causing more disunity by

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02:15:25,800 --> 02:15:29,080
Speaker 5: saying that you don't see other images when there are

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02:15:29,080 --> 02:15:32,800
Speaker 5: other images that are available. So that's one thing. I

2429
02:15:32,840 --> 02:15:36,240
Speaker 5: think what we have to do, since the negative images

2430
02:15:36,320 --> 02:15:39,120
Speaker 5: are of us, is we're going to have to be

2431
02:15:39,160 --> 02:15:43,360
Speaker 5: willing to check people who are portraying black people negatively

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02:15:43,440 --> 02:15:48,800
Speaker 5: in the world. So those people who have access to

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02:15:48,880 --> 02:15:51,840
Speaker 5: people who are doing that, they can't just be yes

2434
02:15:51,960 --> 02:15:53,920
Speaker 5: men and women and go along with any and every

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02:15:54,000 --> 02:15:57,760
Speaker 5: image that they see or anything that these people are

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02:15:57,760 --> 02:15:59,960
Speaker 5: doing because they want to be part of their inner circle.

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02:16:00,560 --> 02:16:03,800
Speaker 5: There's people around those people who could check them and say, man,

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02:16:03,840 --> 02:16:05,960
Speaker 5: this is just not good. So I think there has

2439
02:16:06,040 --> 02:16:09,480
Speaker 5: to be a two ProMED approach from that. Stop with

2440
02:16:09,560 --> 02:16:12,280
Speaker 5: the negative images. We're gonna have to fight the system

2441
02:16:12,280 --> 02:16:15,640
Speaker 5: of white supremacy because we do not have control of

2442
02:16:15,640 --> 02:16:18,880
Speaker 5: our image unless we just say no. But the people

2443
02:16:18,880 --> 02:16:21,680
Speaker 5: who have control over how black people look in television

2444
02:16:21,880 --> 02:16:26,040
Speaker 5: and on the radio are white supremacists. We don't control

2445
02:16:26,120 --> 02:16:28,920
Speaker 5: how we look on television. The only thing we could

2446
02:16:28,920 --> 02:16:32,480
Speaker 5: do is say no to millions of dollars for portraying that.

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02:16:33,080 --> 02:16:36,840
Speaker 5: And again, secondly, those people who are seeing those images

2448
02:16:36,879 --> 02:16:40,480
Speaker 5: and saying that those are the only images I see

2449
02:16:41,040 --> 02:16:43,720
Speaker 5: have to understand that the system of white supremacy has

2450
02:16:43,760 --> 02:16:46,720
Speaker 5: one hell of a negative project against them as well.

2451
02:16:47,160 --> 02:16:49,760
Speaker 5: And if they want to temporarily ignore that so that

2452
02:16:50,320 --> 02:16:55,640
Speaker 5: they can just act like it's just us, that's not

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02:16:55,680 --> 02:16:56,280
Speaker 5: gonna help.

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02:16:58,200 --> 02:17:01,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's akin to to have a bad experience

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02:17:01,720 --> 02:17:06,160
Speaker 1: within a person from Africa, and then they just hate

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02:17:06,160 --> 02:17:09,760
Speaker 1: on all Africans, and that person they think represents all

2457
02:17:09,800 --> 02:17:12,400
Speaker 1: every African in the diaspora, not just on the continent,

2458
02:17:12,520 --> 02:17:16,200
Speaker 1: but in the Caribbean, South America, the Europe every African.

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02:17:16,280 --> 02:17:19,720
Speaker 1: It's that way, right, So how do how do we

2460
02:17:20,520 --> 02:17:23,680
Speaker 1: is that that person's fault then because they don't don't

2461
02:17:23,720 --> 02:17:25,960
Speaker 1: know how to distinguish from one person doesn't just like

2462
02:17:26,440 --> 02:17:29,160
Speaker 1: I'm the I don't represent all African Americans neither to you.

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02:17:29,800 --> 02:17:32,119
Speaker 1: Is that the person who's who perceives that, is that

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02:17:32,120 --> 02:17:33,000
Speaker 1: their shortcoming?

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02:17:34,200 --> 02:17:37,680
Speaker 5: I guess no, because of course, on the one hand, no,

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02:17:37,760 --> 02:17:40,760
Speaker 5: it's not their own shortcoming. Because we are in the prison.

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02:17:41,280 --> 02:17:44,200
Speaker 5: So we're keeping keeping in mind that in a prison.

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02:17:44,280 --> 02:17:46,720
Speaker 5: One of the things that happens is that that you

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02:17:46,800 --> 02:17:51,760
Speaker 5: want to the prison guards have the prisoners against each

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02:17:51,760 --> 02:17:55,359
Speaker 5: other so that they can maintain control, and trying to

2471
02:17:55,360 --> 02:17:57,840
Speaker 5: figure out ways that how do we maintain take control

2472
02:17:57,920 --> 02:18:00,959
Speaker 5: in this prison? Who are the people we need to befriend,

2473
02:18:01,600 --> 02:18:03,400
Speaker 5: Who are the people that we need to use to

2474
02:18:04,360 --> 02:18:06,920
Speaker 5: get other prisoners doing what we want them to do

2475
02:18:06,959 --> 02:18:09,120
Speaker 5: so that we can maintain control in this prison. By

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02:18:09,160 --> 02:18:12,000
Speaker 5: the way, the same thing happens in classrooms. Who are

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02:18:12,040 --> 02:18:14,720
Speaker 5: the students in this classroom that I need to befriend.

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02:18:15,240 --> 02:18:17,039
Speaker 5: This is the way teachers will talk to you out loud.

2479
02:18:17,560 --> 02:18:19,680
Speaker 5: I need to make friends with this one. I need

2480
02:18:19,720 --> 02:18:21,920
Speaker 5: to be cool with this one because this one can

2481
02:18:21,959 --> 02:18:25,120
Speaker 5: help me control the other. Same thing happens there, same

2482
02:18:25,160 --> 02:18:27,960
Speaker 5: thing happens on our larger plantation in the system of racism,

2483
02:18:27,959 --> 02:18:33,160
Speaker 5: white supremacy. So we're being plotted against right. So yeah,

2484
02:18:33,240 --> 02:18:35,720
Speaker 5: on the one hand, it is true that what we

2485
02:18:35,800 --> 02:18:38,879
Speaker 5: want to do is to understand the nature of the

2486
02:18:38,920 --> 02:18:42,840
Speaker 5: prison we're in, so it's not that person's fault fully.

2487
02:18:43,720 --> 02:18:46,879
Speaker 5: But on the other hand, yeah, making us general assumptions

2488
02:18:46,920 --> 02:18:52,160
Speaker 5: about each other when the same whatever they say about

2489
02:18:52,879 --> 02:18:57,400
Speaker 5: negatively about Afro Brazilians, they mean the same thing about

2490
02:18:57,440 --> 02:18:59,959
Speaker 5: African Americans and Africans and everybody else.

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02:19:00,640 --> 02:19:02,720
Speaker 1: Hold up, thoughr Dad, Doc, we got to step aside

2492
02:19:02,720 --> 02:19:04,720
Speaker 1: so our stations can identify themselves. And we got a

2493
02:19:04,760 --> 02:19:06,320
Speaker 1: bunch of folks want to talk to you as well.

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02:19:06,400 --> 02:19:08,400
Speaker 1: It's three minutes away from the top of the our family.

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02:19:08,440 --> 02:19:11,280
Speaker 1: Our guest is educated doctor Kevin Shockley. You want to

2496
02:19:11,320 --> 02:19:13,520
Speaker 1: join this conversation, just reach out to us. And number

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02:19:13,520 --> 02:19:16,520
Speaker 1: is simple. It's eight hundred four or five zero seventy

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02:19:16,560 --> 02:19:19,000
Speaker 1: eight seventy six, and we'll take your phone calls next

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02:19:19,480 --> 02:19:21,560
Speaker 1: and Grand Rising family, thanks for staying with us on

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02:19:21,600 --> 02:19:25,119
Speaker 1: this Monday morning, this Indigenous People's Day as some people

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02:19:25,160 --> 02:19:27,560
Speaker 1: call Columbus Day. It's a holiday for some folks. Hope

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02:19:27,560 --> 02:19:30,080
Speaker 1: you're enjoying the program. If you do, don't keep don't

2503
02:19:30,120 --> 02:19:31,920
Speaker 1: keep it to yourself. Invite a friend to listen and

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02:19:31,959 --> 02:19:34,600
Speaker 1: grow with us. Eight hundred four or five zero seventy

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02:19:34,600 --> 02:19:36,920
Speaker 1: eight to seventy six. Then I'm gonna call remember that number,

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Speaker 1: and I guess is educated doctor Kevin Shockey. Doctor Shaky

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02:19:40,480 --> 02:19:42,760
Speaker 1: is also a filmmaker. So doctor Shakie on as you

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02:19:42,800 --> 02:19:44,200
Speaker 1: finish your thought, and we got a bunch of folks

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02:19:44,280 --> 02:19:45,880
Speaker 1: want to I got questions for you as well.

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02:19:46,760 --> 02:19:49,039
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can go ahead. I think I had finished

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02:19:49,040 --> 02:19:51,080
Speaker 5: that far. If I did, I don't remember what it was.

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02:19:51,800 --> 02:19:55,080
Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to Sondra's calling from Baltimore. She's online. Three,

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02:19:55,120 --> 02:20:03,480
Speaker 1: Grand Rising, Sondre, you're on with doctor Shockley. Three. I'm

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02:20:03,520 --> 02:20:05,760
Speaker 1: not hearing. Oh there you are?

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02:20:06,280 --> 02:20:09,080
Speaker 11: Go ahead, Okay, can you hear? Okay, good morning, I'm

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02:20:09,080 --> 02:20:11,000
Speaker 11: be Grand Rising to you and your guest call.

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02:20:11,600 --> 02:20:12,279
Speaker 16: Uh, that's.

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02:20:13,920 --> 02:20:17,080
Speaker 7: Just What is the purpose.

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02:20:17,160 --> 02:20:20,440
Speaker 11: Of all these these uh young people going to prison

2520
02:20:20,480 --> 02:20:23,119
Speaker 11: at such a young age, What is the purpose?

2521
02:20:23,200 --> 02:20:23,480
Speaker 15: What?

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02:20:23,480 --> 02:20:26,920
Speaker 11: What do the future hold for them? It's because they

2523
02:20:27,080 --> 02:20:31,920
Speaker 11: feel like there's nothing that the society don't need black

2524
02:20:31,959 --> 02:20:36,360
Speaker 11: people anymore, They don't need their work force anymore, so

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02:20:36,400 --> 02:20:39,760
Speaker 11: they don't know what to do with them but to

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02:20:39,800 --> 02:20:43,840
Speaker 11: build more prisoners and store them in prison because they

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02:20:43,840 --> 02:20:46,000
Speaker 11: have nothing for them to look forward to.

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Speaker 5: It's well, I mean, I think there are several reasons

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02:20:54,800 --> 02:20:58,640
Speaker 5: why so many people, why there's so many black people

2530
02:20:58,640 --> 02:21:01,640
Speaker 5: who have been put into prison. One has to do

2531
02:21:01,720 --> 02:21:10,760
Speaker 5: with the fact that the society itself doesn't have anything

2532
02:21:10,800 --> 02:21:13,880
Speaker 5: else that they It's almost like, who is the prison

2533
02:21:14,080 --> 02:21:19,560
Speaker 5: for The prison was created for us to go into it.

2534
02:21:19,560 --> 02:21:23,080
Speaker 5: It wasn't created for some other group to go into it.

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02:21:23,400 --> 02:21:26,200
Speaker 5: The prison was created for black people to go into it.

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02:21:26,720 --> 02:21:31,959
Speaker 5: So it's really the lack of morals of the system

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02:21:32,000 --> 02:21:35,760
Speaker 5: of racism, white supremacy. What else are we going to

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02:21:35,800 --> 02:21:38,119
Speaker 5: do with these people. We don't want to give them

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02:21:38,240 --> 02:21:41,400
Speaker 5: jobs when they apply for jobs that the last higher.

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02:21:42,240 --> 02:21:44,600
Speaker 5: We don't want to give them funds. We don't want

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02:21:44,600 --> 02:21:46,600
Speaker 5: to give money. We're going to give them less money.

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02:21:46,600 --> 02:21:49,640
Speaker 5: We're going to put less money into their communities. We're

2543
02:21:49,680 --> 02:21:53,000
Speaker 5: going to not educate these people, so we're not going

2544
02:21:53,040 --> 02:21:57,320
Speaker 5: to give them the kind of education that liberates them.

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02:21:58,000 --> 02:22:02,600
Speaker 5: We're going to show them images of themselves in radio

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02:22:03,240 --> 02:22:06,280
Speaker 5: on well not in radio, but on television and on internet, etc.

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02:22:06,879 --> 02:22:10,680
Speaker 5: That are going that are demeaning them. We're going to

2548
02:22:11,120 --> 02:22:16,800
Speaker 5: treat them as horribly as we possibly can. And so

2549
02:22:16,959 --> 02:22:19,200
Speaker 5: these are the people we're considering. These people sort of

2550
02:22:19,240 --> 02:22:23,200
Speaker 5: like throwaway people. We have nothing for them. So what

2551
02:22:23,240 --> 02:22:26,240
Speaker 5: we're going to do with them, We're going to store

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02:22:26,360 --> 02:22:29,280
Speaker 5: them in the prison, and then what we're going to

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02:22:29,320 --> 02:22:32,360
Speaker 5: do is to find a way to make money off

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02:22:32,440 --> 02:22:37,200
Speaker 5: of the fact that they went into prison. So a

2555
02:22:37,320 --> 02:22:42,000
Speaker 5: black person who is the only safe black people and

2556
02:22:42,040 --> 02:22:46,880
Speaker 5: they're safe in quotes, are the ones who cooperate fully

2557
02:22:46,959 --> 02:22:50,320
Speaker 5: with the system and are so nice to the system,

2558
02:22:50,440 --> 02:22:53,920
Speaker 5: so whitewashed that they can be that there are no

2559
02:22:54,120 --> 02:22:57,720
Speaker 5: new use to the black community. So if you've got

2560
02:22:57,800 --> 02:23:01,280
Speaker 5: something else that you're trying to do, you know, the

2561
02:23:01,320 --> 02:23:03,760
Speaker 5: system doesn't have a place for black people who are

2562
02:23:05,200 --> 02:23:10,080
Speaker 5: pro black. So when all the deprivation leads to violence

2563
02:23:10,280 --> 02:23:12,480
Speaker 5: in the black community and the folks end up in jail.

2564
02:23:12,680 --> 02:23:16,640
Speaker 5: So it's an ongoing war against black people's humanity. And

2565
02:23:17,400 --> 02:23:19,800
Speaker 5: the distortion that you see of us in the media

2566
02:23:20,120 --> 02:23:22,240
Speaker 5: comes once again from the fact that we're on one

2567
02:23:22,240 --> 02:23:25,760
Speaker 5: great big plantation and one great, big old prison system.

2568
02:23:26,040 --> 02:23:28,680
Speaker 5: So the purpose of putting us in jail, good sister,

2569
02:23:28,959 --> 02:23:32,840
Speaker 5: is that that is what the jail is for. I mean,

2570
02:23:32,879 --> 02:23:35,520
Speaker 5: it's a hard question to answer because I guess it's

2571
02:23:35,560 --> 02:23:37,920
Speaker 5: almost like saying, what's the purpose of having a sink

2572
02:23:38,000 --> 02:23:39,760
Speaker 5: in your house? Well, the kind of when you turn

2573
02:23:39,760 --> 02:23:41,920
Speaker 5: the water on, is that's what it does. It catches

2574
02:23:42,280 --> 02:23:44,320
Speaker 5: the purpose of the jail. Well, that's where black people

2575
02:23:44,320 --> 02:23:47,000
Speaker 5: are supposed to go. I mean, that's what that's what

2576
02:23:47,040 --> 02:23:52,840
Speaker 5: that's for. The prison is for us. So when I

2577
02:23:53,200 --> 02:23:55,119
Speaker 5: when as it pertains to our young people, what they're

2578
02:23:55,160 --> 02:24:01,440
Speaker 5: doing is they're training them on how to be and

2579
02:24:01,600 --> 02:24:07,160
Speaker 5: I say good prisoners. By what I'm thinking of a

2580
02:24:07,240 --> 02:24:10,080
Speaker 5: discipline and control. We know that black students are three

2581
02:24:10,160 --> 02:24:13,080
Speaker 5: or four times more likely to be suspended or expelled

2582
02:24:13,520 --> 02:24:17,039
Speaker 5: than white students, according to the US Department of Education,

2583
02:24:18,040 --> 02:24:20,560
Speaker 5: and in a lot of the black schools there's also

2584
02:24:20,600 --> 02:24:26,879
Speaker 5: a heavy police presence. Metal detectors, so bailens, cameras and

2585
02:24:26,920 --> 02:24:32,160
Speaker 5: what do they call that thing? Zero tolerance policies. That

2586
02:24:32,400 --> 02:24:36,680
Speaker 5: environment mirrors a correctional facility. So what they're doing in

2587
02:24:36,840 --> 02:24:41,440
Speaker 5: the schools is even in the decor, not decor, but

2588
02:24:41,520 --> 02:24:44,080
Speaker 5: in the setting of the school. Those things are just named.

2589
02:24:45,040 --> 02:24:48,840
Speaker 5: They're trying to prepare our young people for that. You

2590
02:24:48,879 --> 02:24:51,360
Speaker 5: don't see that when you go into a school that's

2591
02:24:51,360 --> 02:24:55,200
Speaker 5: stilled with white students. They're teaching white students how to

2592
02:24:55,240 --> 02:24:58,800
Speaker 5: be leaders, how to run society, and they're teaching black

2593
02:24:58,879 --> 02:25:03,160
Speaker 5: children how to be workers. Get yourself ready to go

2594
02:25:03,200 --> 02:25:07,440
Speaker 5: to prison. So I think that's the purpose of all

2595
02:25:07,440 --> 02:25:10,959
Speaker 5: of this. And yeah, I'll answer the question network, great question.

2596
02:25:11,400 --> 02:25:13,920
Speaker 1: All right, And after the top they are coy is

2597
02:25:13,959 --> 02:25:16,480
Speaker 1: calling from Baltimore on line for Grand Rise and Coy

2598
02:25:16,520 --> 02:25:20,240
Speaker 1: You're I'm a Docta Shockley, Good morning.

2599
02:25:20,400 --> 02:25:25,800
Speaker 16: I just wanted to Veggie back on said about celebrities, asked,

2600
02:25:25,800 --> 02:25:31,080
Speaker 16: so call for last media leadists, you know about the rappers,

2601
02:25:31,120 --> 02:25:33,480
Speaker 16: you know, not speaking about the positive of course, But

2602
02:25:33,520 --> 02:25:35,480
Speaker 16: I just I think I said it once before.

2603
02:25:35,680 --> 02:25:37,279
Speaker 5: I believe that I really believe.

2604
02:25:37,040 --> 02:25:40,960
Speaker 16: We need a reparation movie done in twenty twenty five

2605
02:25:41,160 --> 02:25:44,160
Speaker 16: in today's time, and show up, show us and show

2606
02:25:44,200 --> 02:25:47,520
Speaker 16: why how I can get done through the government, how

2607
02:25:47,560 --> 02:25:49,760
Speaker 16: we're going to live with it, how we accept it.

2608
02:25:50,160 --> 02:25:52,240
Speaker 16: Some people are going to mess it up, some people

2609
02:25:52,280 --> 02:25:53,800
Speaker 16: are going to do something with it. But it needs

2610
02:25:53,840 --> 02:25:55,840
Speaker 16: to be shown. And we're going to show that. White

2611
02:25:55,840 --> 02:25:58,000
Speaker 16: people are going to be afraid. They don't want to

2612
02:25:58,040 --> 02:26:00,600
Speaker 16: see that movie because n w A did it back

2613
02:26:00,640 --> 02:26:03,080
Speaker 16: in back in the eighties. They did that and they

2614
02:26:03,080 --> 02:26:05,000
Speaker 16: didn't want to see it, and they told her they saw.

2615
02:26:05,200 --> 02:26:07,520
Speaker 16: They're only telling you what we saw in our community,

2616
02:26:07,600 --> 02:26:09,840
Speaker 16: and we're not speaking about what's going on to white

2617
02:26:09,840 --> 02:26:12,400
Speaker 16: supremity that's going on right now. And like you say,

2618
02:26:12,680 --> 02:26:17,920
Speaker 16: these black celebrity rappers and celebrity media leaders won't put

2619
02:26:17,959 --> 02:26:19,960
Speaker 16: together and do that. They won't speak up. They won't

2620
02:26:19,959 --> 02:26:20,440
Speaker 16: speak up.

2621
02:26:20,480 --> 02:26:21,360
Speaker 13: And I just want to get.

2622
02:26:21,240 --> 02:26:21,720
Speaker 5: Off the line.

2623
02:26:21,760 --> 02:26:24,080
Speaker 16: I just had to say that because this is truly

2624
02:26:24,120 --> 02:26:26,280
Speaker 16: what I'm leaving in my heart. And I'm smart enough

2625
02:26:26,520 --> 02:26:29,840
Speaker 16: to listen to ten ten they call Nelson Show every morning.

2626
02:26:29,920 --> 02:26:32,879
Speaker 16: I'm not that I'm not a great educated person, but

2627
02:26:32,920 --> 02:26:34,400
Speaker 16: I'm smart enough to listen to this show.

2628
02:26:34,920 --> 02:26:35,720
Speaker 8: I like to think.

2629
02:26:38,040 --> 02:26:39,600
Speaker 5: I like the when he put that you have to

2630
02:26:39,640 --> 02:26:42,320
Speaker 5: have enough sense to know to listen to the crowd

2631
02:26:42,360 --> 02:26:43,519
Speaker 5: Nelson Show exactly.

2632
02:26:45,320 --> 02:26:47,520
Speaker 1: But you know what, doctor seat, let me share something

2633
02:26:47,520 --> 02:26:49,640
Speaker 1: with you. You know, once I was watching the news

2634
02:26:49,640 --> 02:26:52,080
Speaker 1: with my mom and you know, the teaser, and this

2635
02:26:52,520 --> 02:26:57,720
Speaker 1: something happened that my mom goes, wow, No, she goes, Lord, Jesus,

2636
02:26:57,720 --> 02:27:02,680
Speaker 1: I hope it ain't a black person. And I was

2637
02:27:02,720 --> 02:27:08,960
Speaker 1: sharing that with doctor with doctor Francis cres Wilson, and

2638
02:27:09,000 --> 02:27:12,080
Speaker 1: doctor Willis says, that's the psychologist, that's that's how, that's

2639
02:27:12,160 --> 02:27:14,720
Speaker 1: how warped the news When they see a black person,

2640
02:27:15,160 --> 02:27:17,320
Speaker 1: we are hoping that it's not a black person. White

2641
02:27:17,320 --> 02:27:20,200
Speaker 1: folks are already convinced before the person's face that it

2642
02:27:20,280 --> 02:27:22,760
Speaker 1: is a black person. And that's the psychologet that we

2643
02:27:22,920 --> 02:27:25,960
Speaker 1: have got to We've got to face it head on

2644
02:27:26,000 --> 02:27:28,280
Speaker 1: it and somehow change that. How do you deal with

2645
02:27:28,320 --> 02:27:29,879
Speaker 1: stuff like that? Because I'm sure my mom is not

2646
02:27:29,959 --> 02:27:32,360
Speaker 1: the only one who when you know, she go, oh, Lord,

2647
02:27:32,440 --> 02:27:33,560
Speaker 1: opening a black person.

2648
02:27:35,240 --> 02:27:40,200
Speaker 5: I mean, I think we all say that sometimes, and

2649
02:27:40,640 --> 02:27:43,240
Speaker 5: I think part of the reason is because we know

2650
02:27:43,360 --> 02:27:46,959
Speaker 5: that they are already attacking our image. We know that

2651
02:27:47,600 --> 02:27:52,199
Speaker 5: if a black person does something it's like ten thousand

2652
02:27:52,240 --> 02:27:55,640
Speaker 5: black people did it. If a white person does something,

2653
02:27:55,760 --> 02:28:00,560
Speaker 5: that one white person did it. So we know that

2654
02:28:01,040 --> 02:28:04,640
Speaker 5: there's going to be repercussions against people who are innocent,

2655
02:28:05,600 --> 02:28:09,960
Speaker 5: who did absolutely nothing if that black person did something

2656
02:28:10,000 --> 02:28:12,440
Speaker 5: they weren't supposed to do. And we also know that

2657
02:28:12,480 --> 02:28:16,560
Speaker 5: they'll get to use that as a reason for the

2658
02:28:16,600 --> 02:28:22,440
Speaker 5: punishments that we're receiving for just being alive. Really, but oh,

2659
02:28:22,760 --> 02:28:25,960
Speaker 5: if this black person did something, there is an example.

2660
02:28:26,200 --> 02:28:29,240
Speaker 5: Now you can see why we treat them the way

2661
02:28:29,280 --> 02:28:33,040
Speaker 5: we treat them. So what we're really afraid of is

2662
02:28:33,080 --> 02:28:38,160
Speaker 5: that when a black person does something wrong, we've given

2663
02:28:38,640 --> 02:28:42,040
Speaker 5: data into the system of white supremacy.

2664
02:28:42,160 --> 02:28:44,160
Speaker 8: That the reason why we're.

2665
02:28:43,959 --> 02:28:47,080
Speaker 5: Being mistreated is because, oh, look at what X, Y

2666
02:28:47,120 --> 02:28:50,040
Speaker 5: and Z did. So I think that's one of the

2667
02:28:50,080 --> 02:28:54,360
Speaker 5: reasons while we're afraid of the images when it shows

2668
02:28:54,360 --> 02:28:57,080
Speaker 5: a black person did something, and when, of course, whenever

2669
02:28:57,120 --> 02:29:00,360
Speaker 5: a black person does something wrong, it's blown up for

2670
02:29:00,440 --> 02:29:03,680
Speaker 5: everybody to see and talked about over and over again.

2671
02:29:04,959 --> 02:29:07,640
Speaker 5: Oftentimes the first thing they want to do is to

2672
02:29:07,640 --> 02:29:10,600
Speaker 5: put that person's image out there. When we have black

2673
02:29:10,640 --> 02:29:15,840
Speaker 5: people doing something that does wrong, it's over emphasized when

2674
02:29:15,840 --> 02:29:18,120
Speaker 5: a white person does something wrong, sometimes it's hard to

2675
02:29:18,160 --> 02:29:22,120
Speaker 5: even find their image. Sometimes a white person kills a

2676
02:29:22,120 --> 02:29:25,320
Speaker 5: black person or does something harmful to black people, you

2677
02:29:25,600 --> 02:29:27,760
Speaker 5: have you have to search the internet high and low

2678
02:29:27,959 --> 02:29:31,680
Speaker 5: sometimes to find what does that person look like? Where

2679
02:29:31,720 --> 02:29:34,600
Speaker 5: does the person? Even then like you can't find information

2680
02:29:34,680 --> 02:29:39,119
Speaker 5: about this. So I think that that's a sensible response

2681
02:29:39,840 --> 02:29:43,280
Speaker 5: that I think we all have because we know that

2682
02:29:43,320 --> 02:29:45,879
Speaker 5: we're under attack. What we're really saying, and what your

2683
02:29:45,879 --> 02:29:49,279
Speaker 5: mom was saying in that example, is we're under attack,

2684
02:29:49,720 --> 02:29:52,400
Speaker 5: and now they're going to have another piece of evidence

2685
02:29:52,400 --> 02:29:58,600
Speaker 5: for the justification for it. We're really we're not committing

2686
02:29:58,680 --> 02:30:04,000
Speaker 5: more crime than other peop They are putting more than

2687
02:30:04,120 --> 02:30:09,040
Speaker 5: emphasis on anything wrong that black people do. Well, who

2688
02:30:09,040 --> 02:30:12,039
Speaker 5: would expect something different in the system of racism white supremacy.

2689
02:30:12,440 --> 02:30:16,240
Speaker 5: What doctor Welsing is saying, the biggest issue is that

2690
02:30:16,280 --> 02:30:20,000
Speaker 5: white people fear genetic annihilation, and the biggest threat to

2691
02:30:20,080 --> 02:30:23,840
Speaker 5: genetic annihilation is black genes. So we have to make

2692
02:30:23,879 --> 02:30:29,600
Speaker 5: the black people into a bility. And then what did

2693
02:30:29,640 --> 02:30:34,480
Speaker 5: she say? They go get a gun to replicate the

2694
02:30:34,520 --> 02:30:38,000
Speaker 5: black male fallus, which represents the ability to wipe out

2695
02:30:38,000 --> 02:30:42,240
Speaker 5: the black self, white the white population. So she used

2696
02:30:42,280 --> 02:30:44,439
Speaker 5: to say in her lectures. I went to her seminars

2697
02:30:44,920 --> 02:30:47,600
Speaker 5: for I don't know, fifteen years or so, and what

2698
02:30:47,760 --> 02:30:50,200
Speaker 5: she used to say was that in the white mind,

2699
02:30:50,680 --> 02:30:52,560
Speaker 5: you've got a weapon that can be used to wipe

2700
02:30:52,560 --> 02:30:54,800
Speaker 5: me out. I need to get me a weapon too.

2701
02:30:56,000 --> 02:30:59,280
Speaker 5: So this is all part of the war that we're in.

2702
02:30:59,560 --> 02:31:03,000
Speaker 5: But I think sometimes we get exhausted thinking about it,

2703
02:31:03,400 --> 02:31:06,240
Speaker 5: so we forget and when we start to focus on

2704
02:31:06,320 --> 02:31:09,600
Speaker 5: all the symptoms of the war we're in. It's easier

2705
02:31:09,640 --> 02:31:12,480
Speaker 5: to think about the symptoms because then you don't have

2706
02:31:12,520 --> 02:31:14,240
Speaker 5: to actually figure out what you're going to do the

2707
02:31:14,280 --> 02:31:16,840
Speaker 5: next day or that day to fight against the system

2708
02:31:16,840 --> 02:31:19,480
Speaker 5: of racism white supremacy. So we just start talking about

2709
02:31:20,200 --> 02:31:22,200
Speaker 5: where all the black people do do certain kinds of

2710
02:31:22,280 --> 02:31:26,800
Speaker 5: things that are bad and wrong, because that's easier. You

2711
02:31:26,800 --> 02:31:29,400
Speaker 5: can just start to blame black people and talk about

2712
02:31:29,440 --> 02:31:32,080
Speaker 5: how much stuff we do. We don't have to deal

2713
02:31:32,120 --> 02:31:36,000
Speaker 5: with that monster who's causing problems in all nine areas

2714
02:31:36,000 --> 02:31:41,440
Speaker 5: of people activity. So yeah, I understand her sentiment, and

2715
02:31:41,480 --> 02:31:44,680
Speaker 5: I say it myself all the time, and whenever I

2716
02:31:44,720 --> 02:31:46,320
Speaker 5: watch the news, I say the same thing.

2717
02:31:47,840 --> 02:31:51,600
Speaker 1: It reinforces the stereotype, and that's the problem. That's a

2718
02:31:51,600 --> 02:31:53,840
Speaker 1: major problem because that's how we know what they think

2719
02:31:53,879 --> 02:31:57,439
Speaker 1: about us. So and when that happens, it's on display.

2720
02:31:57,840 --> 02:32:00,960
Speaker 1: And it also you know, and doctor Wilson says, it

2721
02:32:01,680 --> 02:32:05,520
Speaker 1: permeates our mind that you know, we're evil, we're bad,

2722
02:32:05,560 --> 02:32:08,600
Speaker 1: and the TV shows us and every time you see

2723
02:32:08,680 --> 02:32:11,640
Speaker 1: a black person in handcuffs on television, you know, it

2724
02:32:11,800 --> 02:32:15,879
Speaker 1: reinforces what other people who don't know us think about us. So, yeah,

2725
02:32:15,920 --> 02:32:18,720
Speaker 1: that's what's her response. But anyway, we've got some more

2726
02:32:18,720 --> 02:32:20,760
Speaker 1: folks want to talk to you, doc. At fourteen after

2727
02:32:20,760 --> 02:32:23,200
Speaker 1: the top of the hour, Junie's calling from Baltimore Online.

2728
02:32:23,280 --> 02:32:27,359
Speaker 1: Five Grand Rising, JUNI, you're on with doctor Keviric Shockley.

2729
02:32:28,160 --> 02:32:31,520
Speaker 19: Well, Grand Rising Carl and doctor Ken Sharkly, and thank

2730
02:32:31,560 --> 02:32:36,480
Speaker 19: you for taking the call. It's really asking your thoughts.

2731
02:32:36,520 --> 02:32:41,720
Speaker 19: What are your thoughts about educators staying committed and personverering

2732
02:32:42,280 --> 02:32:46,080
Speaker 19: with the children wherever they are, like Marva Collins did

2733
02:32:46,200 --> 02:32:48,720
Speaker 19: when she was in Chicago and she started the West

2734
02:32:48,720 --> 02:32:50,359
Speaker 19: Side Preparatory Academy.

2735
02:32:50,800 --> 02:32:51,959
Speaker 1: She was doing so.

2736
02:32:51,760 --> 02:32:56,039
Speaker 19: Excellent with the children there that they caught her The

2737
02:32:56,440 --> 02:32:59,040
Speaker 19: nation caught her eye and They wanted her to meet

2738
02:32:59,120 --> 02:33:01,439
Speaker 19: there and become the head.

2739
02:33:01,640 --> 02:33:01,920
Speaker 10: Of the.

2740
02:33:03,520 --> 02:33:06,920
Speaker 19: Educational system for the nation, and she turned it down

2741
02:33:07,440 --> 02:33:10,000
Speaker 19: because she said, I want to stay committed to the

2742
02:33:10,120 --> 02:33:14,959
Speaker 19: children in Chicago and see that they progress. And I

2743
02:33:15,080 --> 02:33:17,560
Speaker 19: believe that's what is needed.

2744
02:33:17,720 --> 02:33:18,000
Speaker 5: More.

2745
02:33:18,120 --> 02:33:21,080
Speaker 19: We need to meet the children where they are and

2746
02:33:21,360 --> 02:33:24,000
Speaker 19: guide them to where we want them to be with

2747
02:33:24,440 --> 02:33:29,720
Speaker 19: excellence in education. Because our children are so superior. I

2748
02:33:29,879 --> 02:33:32,800
Speaker 19: always said, you take the young person off the street

2749
02:33:33,120 --> 02:33:35,840
Speaker 19: and give them the books, no one would be able

2750
02:33:35,879 --> 02:33:39,760
Speaker 19: to stop them. Because we're mathematicians, we're scientists, were everything.

2751
02:33:40,200 --> 02:33:41,480
Speaker 5: So I'd like your thoughts on.

2752
02:33:41,520 --> 02:33:45,800
Speaker 19: That, because it's about solution. How can we as a people,

2753
02:33:46,280 --> 02:33:49,400
Speaker 19: even if we do it one at a time, help

2754
02:33:49,480 --> 02:33:50,320
Speaker 19: our young.

2755
02:33:50,200 --> 02:33:52,080
Speaker 5: People to move forward.

2756
02:33:52,120 --> 02:33:56,120
Speaker 19: Because yes, I was in the educational system as an educator,

2757
02:33:56,480 --> 02:33:58,440
Speaker 19: and I agree with one hundred percent.

2758
02:33:58,920 --> 02:34:02,080
Speaker 5: We are leading the childre in two go to prisons.

2759
02:34:01,640 --> 02:34:05,760
Speaker 19: Unless we instill in them as babies. When I say babies,

2760
02:34:05,760 --> 02:34:09,720
Speaker 19: the three, four or five year olds, because I was kindergarten,

2761
02:34:10,280 --> 02:34:14,000
Speaker 19: you are headed, that you are excellent, you have a mind.

2762
02:34:14,680 --> 02:34:16,640
Speaker 19: And some people would say, well, why are you telling

2763
02:34:16,680 --> 02:34:20,280
Speaker 19: them that they need to know that that young and

2764
02:34:20,320 --> 02:34:23,200
Speaker 19: because when they get older, we have we have to

2765
02:34:23,240 --> 02:34:26,320
Speaker 19: really educate our parents because at one time back in

2766
02:34:26,440 --> 02:34:29,600
Speaker 19: the seventies eighties and the babies raising babies, it's still

2767
02:34:29,640 --> 02:34:32,480
Speaker 19: the same. So we all have to come together and

2768
02:34:32,520 --> 02:34:34,840
Speaker 19: work together and stay committee that much to know your thoughts.

2769
02:34:34,879 --> 02:34:39,520
Speaker 19: Because I thank you for everything that you have said.

2770
02:34:41,720 --> 02:34:45,240
Speaker 19: It's all about the solutions. What are the solutions?

2771
02:34:46,280 --> 02:34:47,800
Speaker 1: I tell you what, Juny, I thank you for your call.

2772
02:34:47,800 --> 02:34:49,320
Speaker 1: We've got to step aside for a few moments. I'll

2773
02:34:49,360 --> 02:34:52,280
Speaker 1: let doctor Shaka give us his solutions when we get

2774
02:34:52,320 --> 02:34:54,760
Speaker 1: back here, right, It is all about solutions. What can

2775
02:34:54,840 --> 02:34:58,080
Speaker 1: we do? And I should tell that doctor Shacke also

2776
02:34:58,200 --> 02:35:01,080
Speaker 1: works with teachers as well, helps them, you know, formulate

2777
02:35:01,480 --> 02:35:05,120
Speaker 1: some of the issues that they need to be teaching.

2778
02:35:05,120 --> 02:35:07,959
Speaker 1: Our young people eight hundred and four five zero seventy

2779
02:35:08,000 --> 02:35:09,600
Speaker 1: eight to seventy six of them going to call speak

2780
02:35:09,600 --> 02:35:11,840
Speaker 1: to our guests. He's an educator filmmaker. His name is

2781
02:35:11,879 --> 02:35:20,280
Speaker 1: doctor Kemmick Shockley. We'll take a calls room next Grand

2782
02:35:20,400 --> 02:35:22,760
Speaker 1: Rising family. Thanksually sticking with us on this Monday morning.

2783
02:35:22,800 --> 02:35:24,680
Speaker 1: Thanks for starting your week with us. At twenty minutes

2784
02:35:24,720 --> 02:35:26,480
Speaker 1: after the top of that, out of our guest educated

2785
02:35:26,480 --> 02:35:29,400
Speaker 1: and filmmaker doctor Kemick Shockne doctor Shockey. You want to

2786
02:35:29,400 --> 02:35:30,800
Speaker 1: respond to Junie's question.

2787
02:35:32,360 --> 02:35:34,920
Speaker 5: That was a great question. I appreciated a question, Juny.

2788
02:35:36,080 --> 02:35:40,680
Speaker 5: But I think that Marvel Collins is a fantastic model

2789
02:35:41,040 --> 02:35:44,840
Speaker 5: that we had out here, not just looking at you know,

2790
02:35:44,920 --> 02:35:48,480
Speaker 5: just her success at Westside Prep when she where she

2791
02:35:48,600 --> 02:35:51,680
Speaker 5: worked for all those years. I like what Juni said,

2792
02:35:51,720 --> 02:35:54,199
Speaker 5: they try to take her out of the classroom. Notice

2793
02:35:54,240 --> 02:35:58,000
Speaker 5: that thing once again, taking these people who work really

2794
02:35:58,040 --> 02:36:00,800
Speaker 5: well with black students finding I'm kind of way to

2795
02:36:00,840 --> 02:36:05,640
Speaker 5: separate them from black kids. That's a common theme in

2796
02:36:05,680 --> 02:36:10,000
Speaker 5: her case, not to do something necessarily negative, but there's

2797
02:36:10,080 --> 02:36:13,840
Speaker 5: always a theme of separating those people. I had. It

2798
02:36:13,959 --> 02:36:15,760
Speaker 5: happened to me when I was trying to when I

2799
02:36:15,800 --> 02:36:19,200
Speaker 5: was a graduate student at the University of Maryland College Park,

2800
02:36:20,520 --> 02:36:23,640
Speaker 5: where the students wanted me to teach a class in

2801
02:36:23,640 --> 02:36:28,360
Speaker 5: African American studies. I wanted to teach the class, and

2802
02:36:28,400 --> 02:36:30,879
Speaker 5: they made sure they actually offered me more money to

2803
02:36:31,080 --> 02:36:34,000
Speaker 5: not teach the class and instead become a research assistant

2804
02:36:34,800 --> 02:36:37,080
Speaker 5: to keep me away from those young black folks. Those

2805
02:36:37,280 --> 02:36:39,600
Speaker 5: were first year college students had had come into the

2806
02:36:39,680 --> 02:36:42,440
Speaker 5: University of Maryland, and I would have been teaching them,

2807
02:36:42,440 --> 02:36:44,800
Speaker 5: but they made sure I stayed away from them. It

2808
02:36:44,840 --> 02:36:48,000
Speaker 5: was done for similar reason. But I think what she's

2809
02:36:48,040 --> 02:36:52,240
Speaker 5: got there is as what we have actually in Marba

2810
02:36:52,240 --> 02:36:58,160
Speaker 5: Collins is an example of educational sovereignty, thinking about like

2811
02:36:58,240 --> 02:37:00,920
Speaker 5: how do we reclaim one of the things that you

2812
02:37:01,080 --> 02:37:03,920
Speaker 5: Whenever a student takes a class from me, you're going

2813
02:37:04,000 --> 02:37:06,720
Speaker 5: to learn about Marva Collins. I'm gonna make you see

2814
02:37:06,760 --> 02:37:09,879
Speaker 5: how she was a critical thinker and how she taught

2815
02:37:09,920 --> 02:37:14,840
Speaker 5: her kids to think critically. There's a problem that you

2816
02:37:14,840 --> 02:37:17,360
Speaker 5: can watch free and sure I show it to any

2817
02:37:17,360 --> 02:37:19,720
Speaker 5: class of folks who are going to become teachers of

2818
02:37:19,760 --> 02:37:22,680
Speaker 5: black students. You can watch it free on YouTube. It's

2819
02:37:22,720 --> 02:37:27,480
Speaker 5: called the Marva Collins Story. It really shows how a

2820
02:37:27,520 --> 02:37:32,959
Speaker 5: person who thinks in a sovereign way and has the

2821
02:37:33,120 --> 02:37:41,000
Speaker 5: self determination and has the sort of I guess you

2822
02:37:41,120 --> 02:37:43,039
Speaker 5: sort of can think outside I can't think of the

2823
02:37:43,080 --> 02:37:47,440
Speaker 5: right word, but can think outside the box and can

2824
02:37:47,480 --> 02:37:51,440
Speaker 5: think in terms of resisting against the white supremacist system

2825
02:37:52,480 --> 02:37:57,000
Speaker 5: and refusing to accept these racist assumptions that black children

2826
02:37:57,080 --> 02:38:02,120
Speaker 5: were unteachable or that they're just simply deficient, and created

2827
02:38:02,160 --> 02:38:06,720
Speaker 5: a school where she showed the exact opposite. I think

2828
02:38:06,760 --> 02:38:11,600
Speaker 5: that's a fantastic example. Now every day we have people

2829
02:38:11,720 --> 02:38:15,560
Speaker 5: doing many AMI and I versions of that all around

2830
02:38:15,600 --> 02:38:20,120
Speaker 5: the country. I try to capture their stories because not

2831
02:38:20,240 --> 02:38:22,960
Speaker 5: everybody is going to be as well known as Marva Collins.

2832
02:38:23,720 --> 02:38:27,240
Speaker 5: Not everybody's gonna people aren't going to necessarily know about

2833
02:38:27,360 --> 02:38:31,920
Speaker 5: other people who are doing these outstanding things. So I

2834
02:38:32,040 --> 02:38:35,000
Speaker 5: captured some of that and put it in the Doctor series.

2835
02:38:36,440 --> 02:38:39,680
Speaker 5: You know again, cultural War focused on black youth to

2836
02:38:39,879 --> 02:38:44,240
Speaker 5: highlight those Marva Collins folks all around the country who

2837
02:38:44,240 --> 02:38:50,959
Speaker 5: are still in practice today. So I am definitely a

2838
02:38:50,959 --> 02:38:54,200
Speaker 5: fan of Marma Collins the work that she did when

2839
02:38:54,200 --> 02:38:59,160
Speaker 5: she was a principal and founder of Westside Prep in Chicago.

2840
02:38:59,840 --> 02:39:04,000
Speaker 5: I think we have to know though that we still

2841
02:39:04,080 --> 02:39:07,400
Speaker 5: have that going on. But the reason why it's hard

2842
02:39:07,440 --> 02:39:12,200
Speaker 5: to find that in the majority of teachers is because

2843
02:39:12,240 --> 02:39:14,959
Speaker 5: the way that teachers are trained in colleges of education

2844
02:39:16,240 --> 02:39:20,720
Speaker 5: is out that they train, They're not getting any information

2845
02:39:20,760 --> 02:39:23,920
Speaker 5: on how to teach or reach black children. So you

2846
02:39:23,920 --> 02:39:27,800
Speaker 5: can go through all this education in this college of education,

2847
02:39:28,360 --> 02:39:32,240
Speaker 5: even through a PhD. You can get a bachelor's, master's

2848
02:39:32,400 --> 02:39:37,840
Speaker 5: and a doctorate and never in most colleges of education, never, never,

2849
02:39:37,920 --> 02:39:42,240
Speaker 5: never learn anything of how to teach and reach black children.

2850
02:39:43,160 --> 02:39:47,760
Speaker 5: What they're teaching in those institutions is sort of how

2851
02:39:47,800 --> 02:39:50,200
Speaker 5: to teach and reach white children. But they don't really

2852
02:39:50,240 --> 02:39:53,000
Speaker 5: they're not really doing that fully either. They're teaching you

2853
02:39:53,040 --> 02:39:56,600
Speaker 5: how to be compliant, how to be a compliant person

2854
02:39:56,600 --> 02:39:57,320
Speaker 5: who knows how.

2855
02:39:57,160 --> 02:39:58,039
Speaker 4: To keep their job.

2856
02:39:59,360 --> 02:40:02,760
Speaker 5: So I totally agree that that Marvel Collins is a

2857
02:40:02,800 --> 02:40:05,120
Speaker 5: fantastic example that we should know more about her, and

2858
02:40:05,160 --> 02:40:07,520
Speaker 5: everybody who's listening that doesn't know who she is should

2859
02:40:08,280 --> 02:40:09,680
Speaker 5: get online and look her up.

2860
02:40:11,160 --> 02:40:13,280
Speaker 1: So true twenty five at the top. I also look

2861
02:40:13,320 --> 02:40:17,720
Speaker 1: up doctor John Za Kunjufu as well, written several books,

2862
02:40:17,600 --> 02:40:20,879
Speaker 1: is Raising Black Boys and the other book Counting the

2863
02:40:21,000 --> 02:40:24,560
Speaker 1: Conspiracy to Destroying Black Boys. But let me ask you this, though,

2864
02:40:24,640 --> 02:40:28,600
Speaker 1: dot is it the educator's responsibility to do that or

2865
02:40:28,680 --> 02:40:30,119
Speaker 1: is it the parents?

2866
02:40:31,879 --> 02:40:35,440
Speaker 5: Well? I think it's both. But you know, one of

2867
02:40:35,440 --> 02:40:38,440
Speaker 5: the things I always say to educators is that you

2868
02:40:38,480 --> 02:40:43,120
Speaker 5: know you're there's nothing anybody can do about the fact.

2869
02:40:43,280 --> 02:40:46,560
Speaker 5: Well that's not true. There's there's little view as an

2870
02:40:46,640 --> 02:40:51,600
Speaker 5: educator can do about the fact that the parents are

2871
02:40:51,920 --> 02:40:54,880
Speaker 5: doing whatever they're doing, are doing or not doing whatever

2872
02:40:54,920 --> 02:40:58,720
Speaker 5: they're not doing. All you can do is to be

2873
02:40:59,240 --> 02:41:04,880
Speaker 5: the best edge you can be. Now, I've spent a

2874
02:41:04,879 --> 02:41:09,920
Speaker 5: lot of my career teaching educators, and one of the

2875
02:41:09,920 --> 02:41:13,920
Speaker 5: things that we really have as a major problem is

2876
02:41:13,959 --> 02:41:18,600
Speaker 5: that the way that the teacher education programs work is

2877
02:41:19,080 --> 02:41:26,879
Speaker 5: they create a sort of anti intellectualism within teachers. Now,

2878
02:41:26,920 --> 02:41:30,240
Speaker 5: that's an awkward place to be to think that a

2879
02:41:30,320 --> 02:41:33,880
Speaker 5: person who is teaching young people or you know, teacher,

2880
02:41:33,920 --> 02:41:37,560
Speaker 5: you're a person who's about knowledge and information. But I

2881
02:41:37,600 --> 02:41:41,760
Speaker 5: would say the overwhelming majority of the teachers that I

2882
02:41:41,840 --> 02:41:50,000
Speaker 5: have taught have been anti intellectual, meaning that intellectual information

2883
02:41:50,360 --> 02:41:54,720
Speaker 5: and information that relates to learning, reading, studying is not

2884
02:41:55,240 --> 02:41:58,119
Speaker 5: where they are. They're not interested, not all of them,

2885
02:41:58,160 --> 02:42:03,680
Speaker 5: but the overwhelming majority of it. And unfortunately, too many

2886
02:42:03,800 --> 02:42:07,200
Speaker 5: of the principles that I've taught over the years have

2887
02:42:07,360 --> 02:42:12,320
Speaker 5: been anti intellectual. So this means that we're getting people

2888
02:42:12,320 --> 02:42:15,879
Speaker 5: who are attracted to working with kids who are not

2889
02:42:16,200 --> 02:42:22,720
Speaker 5: really into thinking, reading, studying, and having knowledge and information

2890
02:42:23,280 --> 02:42:27,720
Speaker 5: and can be easily turned off by that. So this

2891
02:42:27,800 --> 02:42:30,920
Speaker 5: is the reason why parents have to step up and

2892
02:42:30,959 --> 02:42:34,200
Speaker 5: be involved and engaged in what's happening with their young people.

2893
02:42:34,240 --> 02:42:38,000
Speaker 5: But the community needs to understand that what happens to

2894
02:42:38,120 --> 02:42:42,720
Speaker 5: a lot of people who come into schools is you're

2895
02:42:42,800 --> 02:42:46,280
Speaker 5: being run around with and controlled by language that you

2896
02:42:46,320 --> 02:42:50,119
Speaker 5: don't know. You don't know what they're talking about, so

2897
02:42:50,240 --> 02:42:55,800
Speaker 5: you're unable to give responses that would help your child

2898
02:42:55,800 --> 02:42:59,480
Speaker 5: in their learning. The way you deal with that is

2899
02:42:59,560 --> 02:43:03,480
Speaker 5: you ask questions until you do understand. If somebody says

2900
02:43:03,520 --> 02:43:09,000
Speaker 5: something like pedagogical fortitude, well, you don't know what that is,

2901
02:43:09,280 --> 02:43:12,400
Speaker 5: so stop and say what was that word you said? Oh,

2902
02:43:12,520 --> 02:43:15,280
Speaker 5: I was talking about pedagogical fortitude, it could you explain

2903
02:43:15,360 --> 02:43:20,120
Speaker 5: what that means? Keep asking questions until you understand, because

2904
02:43:20,160 --> 02:43:23,680
Speaker 5: a lot of times things are being said that if

2905
02:43:23,760 --> 02:43:27,359
Speaker 5: you only knew what was being said, you'd be very angry.

2906
02:43:28,520 --> 02:43:30,720
Speaker 5: So they could just kind of talk in circles around you.

2907
02:43:30,920 --> 02:43:34,160
Speaker 5: But at the same time, they're anti intellectual, so they

2908
02:43:34,240 --> 02:43:37,760
Speaker 5: don't have enough information oftentimes about what they're saying to

2909
02:43:37,840 --> 02:43:39,760
Speaker 5: even go to back it up if you started asking

2910
02:43:39,840 --> 02:43:42,320
Speaker 5: questions about it. The other thing you can do is

2911
02:43:42,360 --> 02:43:45,920
Speaker 5: to take somebody into the school with you who can

2912
02:43:46,440 --> 02:43:49,080
Speaker 5: listen to what they're saying and be able to respond

2913
02:43:49,120 --> 02:43:53,520
Speaker 5: to it, because unfortunately, an anti intellectual person is not

2914
02:43:55,080 --> 02:43:58,760
Speaker 5: they're typically not really all that concern. They're not concerned

2915
02:43:58,760 --> 02:44:02,879
Speaker 5: about your child in the right way that they're they're not.

2916
02:44:03,360 --> 02:44:06,039
Speaker 5: They're going to talk about the way your child acts

2917
02:44:06,040 --> 02:44:09,000
Speaker 5: in school, but you can't ask the question about what

2918
02:44:09,080 --> 02:44:15,640
Speaker 5: kind of teaching, what kind of teaching strategies are being

2919
02:44:15,760 --> 02:44:19,720
Speaker 5: used to reach your child. So they might be standing

2920
02:44:19,760 --> 02:44:23,400
Speaker 5: at a lectern expecting your child to take notes while

2921
02:44:23,400 --> 02:44:27,039
Speaker 5: they talk. You think you're kind of person who is

2922
02:44:27,080 --> 02:44:30,959
Speaker 5: twelve or fourteen learned that way. But you if you've

2923
02:44:30,959 --> 02:44:33,760
Speaker 5: got somebody weak, you can question the strategies that are

2924
02:44:33,800 --> 02:44:36,840
Speaker 5: being used. That's going to help you. But if you

2925
02:44:36,879 --> 02:44:41,920
Speaker 5: don't understand what teaching strategies are being used, if you can't,

2926
02:44:42,120 --> 02:44:43,680
Speaker 5: you don't have a way of really getting into that.

2927
02:44:43,760 --> 02:44:45,720
Speaker 5: You can't have that conversation, and you're just going to

2928
02:44:45,800 --> 02:44:48,800
Speaker 5: walk away from the school. But what are their days,

2929
02:44:48,920 --> 02:44:52,840
Speaker 5: which oftentimes is very little, thinking something's wrong with your child,

2930
02:44:53,280 --> 02:44:55,560
Speaker 5: thinking they need to be in special education, et cetera,

2931
02:44:55,600 --> 02:44:58,120
Speaker 5: because you don't know how to ask questions. So the

2932
02:44:58,200 --> 02:45:01,160
Speaker 5: Lajor solution to all of this is Africa centered education

2933
02:45:01,240 --> 02:45:04,640
Speaker 5: and African centered learning, because African centered schools don't behave

2934
02:45:04,680 --> 02:45:08,680
Speaker 5: in that way at all. So I think it's really

2935
02:45:08,720 --> 02:45:14,160
Speaker 5: important to understand what is being taught with regard regard

2936
02:45:14,240 --> 02:45:17,520
Speaker 5: to But the way that people think of black education

2937
02:45:18,320 --> 02:45:23,880
Speaker 5: is like things like compliance. So teachers who work in

2938
02:45:23,920 --> 02:45:28,840
Speaker 5: black schools are under compliance. Make sure you do what

2939
02:45:28,879 --> 02:45:33,600
Speaker 5: you're supposed to do in this school, test, CREP, make

2940
02:45:33,640 --> 02:45:38,320
Speaker 5: sure the kids are ready for the test, and control.

2941
02:45:39,040 --> 02:45:42,600
Speaker 5: Make sure you do exactly what we tell you to

2942
02:45:42,600 --> 02:45:45,440
Speaker 5: do or you could lose your job. In white schools,

2943
02:45:47,600 --> 02:45:51,720
Speaker 5: those are emphasizing critical thinking, teaching you how to think,

2944
02:45:52,400 --> 02:45:55,520
Speaker 5: not necessarily teaching you what to think, but teaching you

2945
02:45:55,640 --> 02:46:02,000
Speaker 5: processes and the principles of critical thinking and creativity. How

2946
02:46:02,040 --> 02:46:05,080
Speaker 5: can teaching white children how to run the society through

2947
02:46:05,120 --> 02:46:10,800
Speaker 5: critical thinking, creativity and expiation? Those are emphasized in white schools,

2948
02:46:11,240 --> 02:46:14,480
Speaker 5: where like like I said, in black schools, compliance, test, preference, control,

2949
02:46:15,640 --> 02:46:19,200
Speaker 5: because we're trying to get you ready for various different things. Prison,

2950
02:46:20,320 --> 02:46:26,160
Speaker 5: low level jobs, a lifestyle that doesn't promote thinking, a

2951
02:46:26,280 --> 02:46:29,240
Speaker 5: lifestyle that doesn't promote being able to engage in things

2952
02:46:29,240 --> 02:46:33,560
Speaker 5: that are going to help the black community. So inside

2953
02:46:33,600 --> 02:46:36,840
Speaker 5: of a mind of a person too many and most

2954
02:46:36,879 --> 02:46:41,080
Speaker 5: and many teachers who teach black students. That's the kind

2955
02:46:41,120 --> 02:46:46,760
Speaker 5: of atmosphere that is that is in the school there.

2956
02:46:47,320 --> 02:46:47,920
Speaker 13: It's not a.

2957
02:46:49,520 --> 02:46:52,680
Speaker 5: It's like sign in at eight, if you go out

2958
02:46:52,720 --> 02:46:55,120
Speaker 5: for lunch, sign out again, then sign in. When you

2959
02:46:55,160 --> 02:47:00,959
Speaker 5: come back in. You feel unfree. You don't feel like

2960
02:47:01,040 --> 02:47:03,520
Speaker 5: you even have the ability to fully think during the day.

2961
02:47:04,040 --> 02:47:07,440
Speaker 5: They'll give you time to think. That's not what's going

2962
02:47:07,440 --> 02:47:10,320
Speaker 5: on in the white school. Do you even have to

2963
02:47:10,400 --> 02:47:14,199
Speaker 5: sign the plenty of time to think, plenty of time

2964
02:47:14,280 --> 02:47:18,680
Speaker 5: to employ the different things that they're asking you to do. Well,

2965
02:47:18,800 --> 02:47:21,679
Speaker 5: it's a different type of person who's teaching in these atmospheres,

2966
02:47:21,959 --> 02:47:23,240
Speaker 5: and we need to understand that.

2967
02:47:24,879 --> 02:47:27,840
Speaker 1: All right, Tiny heead away from Latapa. I guess there's

2968
02:47:27,920 --> 02:47:30,920
Speaker 1: doctor Keemis. Shockley's an educator also a filmmaker. You like

2969
02:47:30,920 --> 02:47:32,480
Speaker 1: to speak to him, reach out to us at eight

2970
02:47:32,560 --> 02:47:35,560
Speaker 1: hundred and four or five zero seventy eight to seventy six.

2971
02:47:35,600 --> 02:47:37,280
Speaker 1: And brothers say, Coup has done that, and he's calling

2972
02:47:37,320 --> 02:47:40,760
Speaker 1: from Baltimore's online too. Gran Rising brother say Coup, you're

2973
02:47:40,800 --> 02:47:41,119
Speaker 1: on with.

2974
02:47:41,120 --> 02:47:47,840
Speaker 10: Doctor Shockley, John Boo, No, johnst.

2975
02:47:49,080 --> 02:47:55,200
Speaker 9: My question is two fold, Doctor Amos Wilfu said that

2976
02:47:55,320 --> 02:47:58,959
Speaker 9: the primary function of education is just the sphere of

2977
02:47:59,080 --> 02:48:04,520
Speaker 9: people's about by solving their problems, not bad their oppressors

2978
02:48:04,560 --> 02:48:06,560
Speaker 9: for jobs. Do you agree with that?

2979
02:48:09,520 --> 02:48:09,800
Speaker 4: For ya?

2980
02:48:10,320 --> 02:48:10,520
Speaker 6: I do.

2981
02:48:13,280 --> 02:48:13,360
Speaker 5: So.

2982
02:48:14,400 --> 02:48:19,039
Speaker 9: It seems to me a lot of educators, not necessarily you,

2983
02:48:19,280 --> 02:48:23,119
Speaker 9: but they come on these talk shows and they dance

2984
02:48:23,240 --> 02:48:31,320
Speaker 9: around the issue of African That's what I plink our

2985
02:48:31,360 --> 02:48:34,400
Speaker 9: children need. And I've been volunteering the public school system

2986
02:48:34,440 --> 02:48:37,880
Speaker 9: here in Baltimore for like the last four or five years,

2987
02:48:38,120 --> 02:48:42,840
Speaker 9: and I see that I get to meet any I'm saying,

2988
02:48:43,000 --> 02:48:47,320
Speaker 9: any classroom instructure that are black African Senate, they're not.

2989
02:48:47,480 --> 02:48:51,560
Speaker 9: They're Eurocentric. And that's the problem the curriculus. It's not

2990
02:48:51,680 --> 02:48:54,600
Speaker 9: that our children can't learn, they don't want to learn

2991
02:48:54,640 --> 02:49:00,080
Speaker 9: that bs that they've been teaching from day one.

2992
02:49:00,520 --> 02:49:05,840
Speaker 5: Well, I think that you know, approximately, I think it

2993
02:49:05,920 --> 02:49:08,160
Speaker 5: was the last time I checked, maybe about a year ago,

2994
02:49:08,160 --> 02:49:12,440
Speaker 5: about six percent of the teachers in public schools were black.

2995
02:49:14,120 --> 02:49:18,680
Speaker 5: But black students are like seventeen eighteen percent of the

2996
02:49:18,720 --> 02:49:23,960
Speaker 5: student population. Of that six percent of teachers that are black,

2997
02:49:24,560 --> 02:49:27,760
Speaker 5: one or two percent of them are black males. There

2998
02:49:27,760 --> 02:49:35,560
Speaker 5: aren't a very many black teachers in the schools. Unfortunately, unfortunately,

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02:49:36,280 --> 02:49:39,880
Speaker 5: when we do have black teachers in schools, oftentimes most

3000
02:49:39,920 --> 02:49:44,640
Speaker 5: often they're not African centered. So the school systems are

3001
02:49:44,680 --> 02:49:47,840
Speaker 5: really good at causing teachers to be so busy with

3002
02:49:48,040 --> 02:49:51,840
Speaker 5: everything that they don't even have a chance to think

3003
02:49:52,000 --> 02:49:58,160
Speaker 5: about anything, let alone cultural stuff trying to figure out

3004
02:49:58,200 --> 02:50:00,240
Speaker 5: ways so that I can make sure my student are

3005
02:50:00,280 --> 02:50:06,560
Speaker 5: getting culturally appropriate education. The public school systems are really

3006
02:50:06,680 --> 02:50:11,840
Speaker 5: bad at causing teachers to be extraordinarily busy. I mean,

3007
02:50:11,879 --> 02:50:14,120
Speaker 5: we're talking about some of the busiest people in the society.

3008
02:50:14,640 --> 02:50:21,000
Speaker 5: You're not just teaching, you're also doing everything thrown out forms,

3009
02:50:21,800 --> 02:50:26,640
Speaker 5: making sure there's differentiated information for different students, going to

3010
02:50:26,959 --> 02:50:29,440
Speaker 5: meetings about special ed students that may or may not

3011
02:50:29,520 --> 02:50:35,440
Speaker 5: even be your student, going to meetings when you're supposed

3012
02:50:35,480 --> 02:50:37,440
Speaker 5: to be planning, You're supposed to have time to plan,

3013
02:50:37,520 --> 02:50:39,480
Speaker 5: but you're in a meeting, so you don't have time

3014
02:50:39,480 --> 02:50:41,080
Speaker 5: to plan, so you have to go home and plan, etc.

3015
02:50:42,280 --> 02:50:46,320
Speaker 5: So Yeah, it's very difficult did to say to help

3016
02:50:46,360 --> 02:50:50,440
Speaker 5: teachers understand, but part about having a cultural and African

3017
02:50:50,560 --> 02:50:54,360
Speaker 5: centered education piece shouldn't be seen in the same light

3018
02:50:54,959 --> 02:50:57,480
Speaker 5: as these other things. Because your job is to reach

3019
02:50:57,520 --> 02:50:58,279
Speaker 5: black students.

3020
02:50:59,400 --> 02:51:02,400
Speaker 4: They can't fully hear that because they're being.

3021
02:51:02,320 --> 02:51:07,240
Speaker 5: Run around in major circles and busy as heck trying

3022
02:51:07,280 --> 02:51:13,599
Speaker 5: to do everything, including dealing with behaviors, the behaviors of administration,

3023
02:51:14,160 --> 02:51:16,760
Speaker 5: being under the gun when it comes to things like evaluation.

3024
02:51:17,640 --> 02:51:22,040
Speaker 5: So we have a system designed that is designed. They

3025
02:51:22,160 --> 02:51:25,760
Speaker 5: know this is a design to cause these folks to

3026
02:51:25,840 --> 02:51:27,680
Speaker 5: not be able to think long enough to be able

3027
02:51:27,720 --> 02:51:32,879
Speaker 5: to address any and any of the things we're talking about. Now,

3028
02:51:33,080 --> 02:51:36,280
Speaker 5: the light of the school school system is, or the

3029
02:51:36,320 --> 02:51:40,000
Speaker 5: school institution is the more time teachers have to think,

3030
02:51:41,000 --> 02:51:46,640
Speaker 5: address issues and to kind of make get your mind

3031
02:51:46,640 --> 02:51:49,280
Speaker 5: into a place where you can do the planning that

3032
02:51:49,360 --> 02:51:51,840
Speaker 5: needs to be done so you can truly reach the children.

3033
02:51:52,920 --> 02:51:57,040
Speaker 5: So it's it is. It is a problem that our

3034
02:51:57,400 --> 02:52:01,960
Speaker 5: teachers are not African centered. It is also designed so

3035
02:52:02,040 --> 02:52:07,720
Speaker 5: that they can't get there because they are being bombarded.

3036
02:52:08,080 --> 02:52:11,439
Speaker 5: But then so it becomes an issue of the community.

3037
02:52:11,440 --> 02:52:15,080
Speaker 5: What the community needs to do is to sort of

3038
02:52:15,120 --> 02:52:19,280
Speaker 5: a redemand that our teachers learn in such a way

3039
02:52:19,320 --> 02:52:21,959
Speaker 5: that they can reach black children. The community has to

3040
02:52:22,000 --> 02:52:24,959
Speaker 5: make that demand, and sometimes the community has made that

3041
02:52:25,040 --> 02:52:28,080
Speaker 5: demand and it's gone on met Steel, but I don't

3042
02:52:28,080 --> 02:52:30,360
Speaker 5: think there's enough pressure on the system to make sure

3043
02:52:30,720 --> 02:52:32,520
Speaker 5: our teachers are able to meet the needs of our

3044
02:52:32,560 --> 02:52:33,119
Speaker 5: young people.

3045
02:52:33,920 --> 02:52:35,800
Speaker 1: All right, hold that though, right there, that's the episode

3046
02:52:35,800 --> 02:52:38,200
Speaker 1: for one last time. And Ramon in DC's got a

3047
02:52:38,280 --> 02:52:40,720
Speaker 1: question for you. Family. YouTube can join our discussion with

3048
02:52:41,040 --> 02:52:44,240
Speaker 1: doctor Kevin Shockley. He's an educator also a filmmaker as well.

3049
02:52:44,400 --> 02:52:46,200
Speaker 1: You can reach us at eight hundred and four five

3050
02:52:46,320 --> 02:52:49,000
Speaker 1: zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take all your

3051
02:52:49,000 --> 02:52:52,200
Speaker 1: phone calls next and Grand Rising family, thanks for ruling

3052
02:52:52,200 --> 02:52:54,880
Speaker 1: for us on this Monday morning. Thanks movie, you know,

3053
02:52:55,120 --> 02:52:57,200
Speaker 1: using us as part of your morning richel again. I

3054
02:52:57,200 --> 02:53:00,440
Speaker 1: guess is doctor Kemick Shockley's an educator and also maker

3055
02:53:00,480 --> 02:53:06,360
Speaker 1: discussing education, especially Pan African education African centered education. Eight

3056
02:53:06,440 --> 02:53:08,640
Speaker 1: hundred and four or five zero seventy eight is i'mna

3057
02:53:08,680 --> 02:53:11,000
Speaker 1: call speak to doctor Shaqui. Ramon's reaching out to us.

3058
02:53:11,000 --> 02:53:14,000
Speaker 1: He's calling from Washington, DC's on line three at Grand

3059
02:53:14,080 --> 02:53:16,279
Speaker 1: Rise in Ramoni, You're I'm with doctor Shakli.

3060
02:53:17,240 --> 02:53:20,320
Speaker 8: Grand Rise and made a higher powers best both of you.

3061
02:53:21,240 --> 02:53:24,959
Speaker 8: I call this system. I call this system white toxicity.

3062
02:53:26,560 --> 02:53:30,560
Speaker 8: I know that when Minister Lewis Farakhan went over the seas.

3063
02:53:30,600 --> 02:53:33,360
Speaker 8: I believe it was Libya, and when he was coming

3064
02:53:33,440 --> 02:53:37,320
Speaker 8: back they he won. The president of Libya wanted to

3065
02:53:37,320 --> 02:53:41,920
Speaker 8: give him a billion dollars to help African American people

3066
02:53:42,000 --> 02:53:47,960
Speaker 8: in this country. And I know that we talk about

3067
02:53:48,000 --> 02:53:50,760
Speaker 8: the rappers and actors and so forth and so on,

3068
02:53:51,480 --> 02:53:55,240
Speaker 8: but I believe that if and the basketball players and

3069
02:53:55,280 --> 02:53:59,160
Speaker 8: all of them, I believe that it's all about resources,

3070
02:53:59,600 --> 02:54:03,240
Speaker 8: and if our kids don't have the resources that they need,

3071
02:54:04,200 --> 02:54:07,760
Speaker 8: I believe the solution is if we had a committee

3072
02:54:09,560 --> 02:54:15,560
Speaker 8: that could at least give one percent of what the actors,

3073
02:54:15,760 --> 02:54:20,840
Speaker 8: the the basketball players, the rappers and so forth and

3074
02:54:20,879 --> 02:54:25,360
Speaker 8: so on go into that, we would have almost a

3075
02:54:25,400 --> 02:54:28,080
Speaker 8: billion dollars if they only gave one percent.

3076
02:54:28,400 --> 02:54:30,560
Speaker 6: I don't know if we can have any power.

3077
02:54:30,440 --> 02:54:34,320
Speaker 8: Structure could come up with that type of thing, because

3078
02:54:34,360 --> 02:54:37,800
Speaker 8: we need our own system. Because I remember I forgot

3079
02:54:37,840 --> 02:54:42,240
Speaker 8: who it was in wol It was years ago. He

3080
02:54:42,360 --> 02:54:45,680
Speaker 8: was on. He was on and car you probably know

3081
02:54:46,040 --> 02:54:48,119
Speaker 8: who I'm talking about, older gentleman.

3082
02:54:48,240 --> 02:54:48,640
Speaker 5: He was on.

3083
02:54:49,040 --> 02:54:52,120
Speaker 8: He used to be the talk show hosts on w

3084
02:54:52,240 --> 02:54:55,600
Speaker 8: o L and he went the XM satellite. I forgot

3085
02:54:55,600 --> 02:55:00,400
Speaker 8: his name. Who passed away not too long ago. But anyway,

3086
02:55:00,640 --> 02:55:03,200
Speaker 8: I remember he had a host of a guest on

3087
02:55:04,400 --> 02:55:08,360
Speaker 8: and he said that, uh, there are over in ran.

3088
02:55:09,000 --> 02:55:12,120
Speaker 8: Uh they caught some uh people that I guess they

3089
02:55:12,120 --> 02:55:15,440
Speaker 8: were either dressed up as a red cross or so

3090
02:55:15,520 --> 02:55:18,560
Speaker 8: forth and so on. Uh, but they were inspecting the

3091
02:55:18,640 --> 02:55:24,320
Speaker 8: babies with aids. We don't we don't really grasp that this.

3092
02:55:24,680 --> 02:55:27,240
Speaker 8: We need to get out of this system as.

3093
02:55:27,120 --> 02:55:29,040
Speaker 1: Much, right ramon dus if I have a putting a

3094
02:55:29,160 --> 02:55:31,680
Speaker 1: question for him so he can respond, got some folks

3095
02:55:31,720 --> 02:55:32,760
Speaker 1: got questions for him.

3096
02:55:32,640 --> 02:55:35,560
Speaker 8: Okay, so so so how so how do we come

3097
02:55:35,760 --> 02:55:39,320
Speaker 8: up because we because the the the white But my

3098
02:55:39,440 --> 02:55:44,240
Speaker 8: question is this white people have like uh uh mafia

3099
02:55:44,360 --> 02:55:46,640
Speaker 8: movies and gangster movies and so forth, and so on

3100
02:55:47,160 --> 02:55:49,640
Speaker 8: and and and and they go back to their community

3101
02:55:49,720 --> 02:55:54,199
Speaker 8: and build their community. How do we uh not demonize

3102
02:55:54,320 --> 02:55:56,520
Speaker 8: the rappers and the and the actors and so forth

3103
02:55:56,560 --> 02:55:58,000
Speaker 8: and so on because the white people were doing it

3104
02:55:58,000 --> 02:56:01,960
Speaker 8: in the same way to that our people are doing it.

3105
02:56:02,680 --> 02:56:02,800
Speaker 6: Uh.

3106
02:56:03,160 --> 02:56:05,640
Speaker 8: Maybe we go a little bit of stream, but how

3107
02:56:05,680 --> 02:56:09,480
Speaker 8: do we tap into how do we organize the one

3108
02:56:09,520 --> 02:56:12,520
Speaker 8: percent of the resources that they make so that we

3109
02:56:12,560 --> 02:56:17,879
Speaker 8: can don't depend on these public uh demonic schools that

3110
02:56:19,160 --> 02:56:20,760
Speaker 8: in our kids the jail. How do how do we

3111
02:56:20,840 --> 02:56:24,879
Speaker 8: organize those resources from those people? And I'll listen and

3112
02:56:24,879 --> 02:56:26,800
Speaker 8: take my question here.

3113
02:56:28,600 --> 02:56:30,920
Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank you for the question, brother. I appreciate

3114
02:56:30,959 --> 02:56:33,879
Speaker 5: the question. I understand the question and the sentiment, and

3115
02:56:34,040 --> 02:56:39,440
Speaker 5: I agree that if we had one percent of our

3116
02:56:39,480 --> 02:56:43,480
Speaker 5: wealthiest focuses UH, if we had one percent of our

3117
02:56:43,480 --> 02:56:49,000
Speaker 5: wealthiest focuses money to use toward education or other important projects,

3118
02:56:49,440 --> 02:56:52,199
Speaker 5: we would be in better condition. I think the thing

3119
02:56:52,520 --> 02:56:55,120
Speaker 5: we have to keep in mind once again, and that

3120
02:56:55,280 --> 02:56:59,640
Speaker 5: is that there is an actual and real war. So

3121
02:57:00,640 --> 02:57:05,080
Speaker 5: when when the system of white supremacy puts give someone

3122
02:57:05,200 --> 02:57:11,960
Speaker 5: millions of dollars an actor whatever it is they're doing,

3123
02:57:12,120 --> 02:57:14,880
Speaker 5: entertainer of some sort, When they get millions of dollars

3124
02:57:14,920 --> 02:57:20,160
Speaker 5: for that, they're not saying, here's millions of dollars, enjoy

3125
02:57:20,240 --> 02:57:20,760
Speaker 5: your money.

3126
02:57:21,200 --> 02:57:21,360
Speaker 10: Now.

3127
02:57:21,400 --> 02:57:26,320
Speaker 5: Those people are under watch. Those people are under being watched.

3128
02:57:26,520 --> 02:57:29,360
Speaker 5: They're not going to be able to do whatever they

3129
02:57:29,400 --> 02:57:32,959
Speaker 5: want to with those funds. So I think it's not

3130
02:57:34,640 --> 02:57:37,480
Speaker 5: I would definitely not discourage somebody if they try to

3131
02:57:37,640 --> 02:57:41,920
Speaker 5: organize the wealthiest of the black people to put their

3132
02:57:41,959 --> 02:57:44,880
Speaker 5: money into the black community. I would think that if

3133
02:57:44,920 --> 02:57:48,720
Speaker 5: they had any success, that they would probably be at

3134
02:57:48,840 --> 02:57:53,320
Speaker 5: serious risk their life because we're in a system of

3135
02:57:53,320 --> 02:57:57,760
Speaker 5: white supremacy and only certain people can even have any

3136
02:57:57,800 --> 02:58:00,600
Speaker 5: real money. So if you're going to have if you're

3137
02:58:00,600 --> 02:58:03,279
Speaker 5: going to have real money enough to really make influence

3138
02:58:03,320 --> 02:58:08,039
Speaker 5: and do something in the society, you're going to be

3139
02:58:08,120 --> 02:58:10,800
Speaker 5: watched to see how you're using that money. If you're

3140
02:58:10,879 --> 02:58:13,920
Speaker 5: using it to help black people, you might end up

3141
02:58:14,040 --> 02:58:18,200
Speaker 5: losing something like what happened with Bill Cosby. So Bill

3142
02:58:18,280 --> 02:58:20,440
Speaker 5: Cosby didn't go to jail. I don't think this is

3143
02:58:20,520 --> 02:58:21,959
Speaker 5: personal thing. I don't think I had anything to do

3144
02:58:22,000 --> 02:58:23,879
Speaker 5: with any women. I think it had to do with

3145
02:58:23,920 --> 02:58:26,280
Speaker 5: the fact that he was trying to do things that

3146
02:58:26,400 --> 02:58:29,400
Speaker 5: were a problem for the system of white supremacy.

3147
02:58:29,240 --> 02:58:31,680
Speaker 18: And he proved that he could do it with some

3148
02:58:31,760 --> 02:58:33,200
Speaker 18: of the things he put on television.

3149
02:58:34,040 --> 02:58:36,119
Speaker 5: So you get yourself in trouble try to do that.

3150
02:58:36,240 --> 02:58:38,520
Speaker 5: I'm not against it. I think it's great, and I'm

3151
02:58:38,560 --> 02:58:41,240
Speaker 5: not against your notion, but I think we have to

3152
02:58:41,320 --> 02:58:44,360
Speaker 5: understand how serious the system is, particularly and especially about

3153
02:58:44,400 --> 02:58:49,400
Speaker 5: black people. The system is very serious about making sure

3154
02:58:49,959 --> 02:58:52,240
Speaker 5: that we don't do certain things with our money and

3155
02:58:52,280 --> 02:58:55,720
Speaker 5: our time. So no, not against your idea. I would

3156
02:58:55,720 --> 02:58:56,640
Speaker 5: love to see it happen.

3157
02:58:57,280 --> 02:58:57,920
Speaker 8: We just have to.

3158
02:58:57,840 --> 02:59:03,800
Speaker 5: Figure out how to do that under under the current system.

3159
02:59:04,160 --> 02:59:06,080
Speaker 1: Right ten away from the topic, I'm gonna jump in here.

3160
02:59:06,080 --> 02:59:09,480
Speaker 1: Good question. One of our psychiatrists told us that black

3161
02:59:09,520 --> 02:59:12,600
Speaker 1: students learn differently than white students. I don't want to

3162
02:59:12,600 --> 02:59:14,080
Speaker 1: get to your response to it, because you're in the

3163
02:59:14,240 --> 02:59:17,440
Speaker 1: educational field. I'm not quite sure if he said our

3164
02:59:17,480 --> 02:59:21,240
Speaker 1: students are more visual auditory, but there's a difference, so

3165
02:59:21,400 --> 02:59:24,320
Speaker 1: that most of the teachers don't take this into consideration.

3166
02:59:24,440 --> 02:59:25,480
Speaker 1: And your thoughts dock.

3167
02:59:26,840 --> 02:59:30,080
Speaker 5: Well, they trained black people in many ways to think

3168
02:59:30,160 --> 02:59:34,760
Speaker 5: that saying that white, black and white children learn differently

3169
02:59:34,920 --> 02:59:39,080
Speaker 5: is a bad thing, because everybody has this idea that

3170
02:59:39,160 --> 02:59:42,920
Speaker 5: whatever it is white people, white students, white communities are doing,

3171
02:59:42,959 --> 02:59:46,680
Speaker 5: it's better. So somebody says that, well, black children need

3172
02:59:47,240 --> 02:59:50,920
Speaker 5: sort of call and response or teaching that connects all

3173
02:59:50,959 --> 02:59:54,240
Speaker 5: the dots together and not just sees things as desperate

3174
02:59:54,360 --> 02:59:59,279
Speaker 5: disparate parts. That black children learn better, communal learning circle

3175
02:59:59,400 --> 03:00:03,160
Speaker 5: kind of you know, intergenerational storytelling and things of that nature.

3176
03:00:04,000 --> 03:00:06,640
Speaker 5: Then somebody is saying, oh, well, you're saying that they

3177
03:00:06,640 --> 03:00:09,480
Speaker 5: don't learn as well. So what the afrocentric schools have

3178
03:00:09,560 --> 03:00:14,040
Speaker 5: shown us is that yes, black students learn, they enjoy learning,

3179
03:00:14,080 --> 03:00:16,840
Speaker 5: and they learn differently, that they have different ways of

3180
03:00:17,080 --> 03:00:20,400
Speaker 5: learning things, and that they connect things differently, and there's

3181
03:00:20,480 --> 03:00:23,120
Speaker 5: no problem with that. But white children are taught that

3182
03:00:23,320 --> 03:00:27,760
Speaker 5: they are the standard. They're taught that we you know,

3183
03:00:27,959 --> 03:00:31,160
Speaker 5: that whatever they do is the thing that you need

3184
03:00:31,160 --> 03:00:35,160
Speaker 5: to reach for. And so it kind of creates the

3185
03:00:35,200 --> 03:00:39,320
Speaker 5: problem of whenever we say that they learn differently, that

3186
03:00:39,440 --> 03:00:43,039
Speaker 5: causes all kinds of issues. But yes, white children and

3187
03:00:43,040 --> 03:00:45,920
Speaker 5: white children tend to learn differently, and we all there's

3188
03:00:45,920 --> 03:00:49,360
Speaker 5: a book that a said here. You know, her name

3189
03:00:49,440 --> 03:00:54,480
Speaker 5: is Janice Hale. It's called Black Children Their Roots, Culture

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Speaker 5: and Learning Style, and it has in there the ways

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Speaker 5: that black children tend to learn best. I think it's

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Speaker 5: really important for anybody who teaches black children to read

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Speaker 5: that book become familiar with the things that black children

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Speaker 5: respond well to know and like about Asthian Hillary. Actually,

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Speaker 5: I love book that I'm writing on as here that

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Speaker 5: will be finishing up at the end of the year.

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Speaker 5: But one of the things that Asa Hillary taught is

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Speaker 5: that we already know how to reach black children. Lisa Dulfitt,

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Speaker 5: who is a really well known educator. She's in the

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Speaker 5: film that I did as well. And once she said,

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Speaker 5: she said, I'm not doing any more research or attending

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Speaker 5: any more white conferences. She said, because we already know

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Speaker 5: what we need to do to reach black children, and

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Speaker 5: they're simply refusing to do it. So what is that

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Speaker 5: happening in education? And I said this before when I

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Speaker 5: was on this show. We actually had a solution for

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Speaker 5: reaching black children. We're having and I know people aren't

3208
03:02:05,760 --> 03:02:08,480
Speaker 5: used to that. You just think we have problems, we

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Speaker 5: don't know what to do. We had solution to reaching

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Speaker 5: black children.

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Speaker 1: All I thought right there, because they raised the clock

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Speaker 1: and we got one more call for you before we

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Speaker 1: get out of here. Seven away from the top of

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Speaker 1: the are. Since the Kashiva is checking in from Silver

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Speaker 1: Spring in Maryland, she's online too, Grand Rising Sister Kashiba

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Speaker 1: with Docta Shokley. Since the Kashiba there, Yeah, I'm here.

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Speaker 20: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, we can hear it?

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Speaker 20: Now, go ahead, yeah, okay, Carl, I think you're the

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Speaker 20: best ancients. Maybe swice bread that hit this continent or

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Speaker 20: this world and and I want to just keep on

3222
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Speaker 20: doing what you're doing. Oh my god, I wanted to say,

3223
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Speaker 20: I'm I had a career, business does tire out, and

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Speaker 20: we need new curriculums. But the one thing I wanted

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Speaker 20: to ask him is do you think we need Saturday schools?

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Speaker 20: We need schools outs. We're paying our taxes for these schools.

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Speaker 6: I know.

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Speaker 20: Public schools, but I think we need learning outside of

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Speaker 20: that environment.

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Speaker 1: What about that's give a chance to respond, thank you? This

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Speaker 1: is the Casino, doc, I'm totally.

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Speaker 5: In agreement with that. Saturday academies, freedom schools where our

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Speaker 5: young people are learning things like African history, ethics, leadership

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Speaker 5: from community elders and scholars, because then we can bring

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Speaker 5: in all the things that we know our children need

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Speaker 5: for them having to ask the very people who want

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Speaker 5: to go to war with us and make sure that

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Speaker 5: they're not learning things that they need to learn how

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Speaker 5: to control their communities. Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 1: And docfore we let you go, How can folks reach you?

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Speaker 1: And if you can tell some of the names of

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Speaker 1: books and some of the films that you've done.

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Speaker 5: Sure, I've got several of those. There's a book that

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Speaker 5: I did about three years ago called African Centered Education

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Speaker 5: Theory and Practice. I think that's one. I did one

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Speaker 5: even before that called The Miseducation of Black Children The

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Speaker 5: Miseducation of Black Children. Actually that book was published by

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Speaker 5: Juwanza Qunjufu's publishing press, African American Images. And then I've

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Speaker 5: got one called Pan Africanism in the twenty first Century

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Speaker 5: that I did the Baruchi Katambo. I have a book

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Speaker 5: coming out probably somewhere around. It's going to be finished

3252
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Speaker 5: in December to come out in February, so it's going

3253
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Speaker 5: to be about a Hilliards. Also out are two documentaries.

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Speaker 5: One is a docuseries it's called Cultural War focused on

3255
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Speaker 5: Black youth to the Amazon Prime, Apple TV Plus, and

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03:05:01,600 --> 03:05:05,400
Speaker 5: a number of other ones that are slightly smaller outlets.

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Speaker 5: And then he also I did a book called I

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Speaker 5: mean a documentary called for Humanity, Culture, Community and Marionage,

3259
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Speaker 5: which is about the Maroons, the world's first group of

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Speaker 5: Maroons in Columbia, South America, that you can watch on

3261
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Speaker 5: app I'm sorry, on Yahoo, I'm sorry with YouTube, sorry YouTube,

3262
03:05:24,240 --> 03:05:26,920
Speaker 5: you can watch it on YouTube. I also I'm going

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Speaker 5: to be doing some seminars in a lot of different

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Speaker 5: places focus on education in black youth. I don't have

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Speaker 5: a flyer for those, but if you'd like to get

3266
03:05:37,200 --> 03:05:40,320
Speaker 5: information on it, you can always email me. My email

3267
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Speaker 5: address is K. Shackle, not Shakle, just K Shackle K

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Speaker 5: S H O C K L E at yahoo dot com.

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Speaker 5: And of course I'm on LinkedIn as well under doctor KMT. Shockley.

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Speaker 1: All Right, thank you, doc, thanks for all the information

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03:06:00,160 --> 03:06:01,600
Speaker 1: to share with us today, and thank you for all

3272
03:06:01,600 --> 03:06:05,040
Speaker 1: the information over the years, including the documentaries that you

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03:06:05,160 --> 03:06:06,119
Speaker 1: produce for our people.

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Speaker 4: Indeed, Santi all right.

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Speaker 1: Family, Sante classes, dismiss family, Stay strong, stay positive, please

3276
03:06:14,040 --> 03:06:16,560
Speaker 1: stay healthy. We'll see you tomorrow morning, six o'clock right

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Speaker 1: here in Baltimore on ten ten WLB, and also in

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Speaker 1: the DMV on FM ninety five point nine and AM

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Speaker 1: fourteen fifty WOL. Where information is Power