1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, do we have a show today. 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,559 Speaker 2: We have a big show today, and I am completely 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 2: not ready for starting late this morning. 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: Just get all your papers in order case I'll take 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: it for a minute. It'll be fine, okay, all right, 6 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: So coming up a little bit later on in the program, 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Craig Haggard is going to join us. He is the 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: state rep whose wife is at the center of the 9 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 1: allegations of that allegedly artificial intelligence pornography was created in 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: the or shared in the Lieutenant Governor's office of her 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: At this charity event, he is now speaking out and 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 1: he is he's big mad, and he's gonna name some 13 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: names and say some stuff coming up. I believe he'll 14 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 1: join us at ten o'clock today. 15 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 3: So that'll be really interesting to hear what he has 16 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 3: to say. 17 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: Now, look, look this whole thing, and so Merrit's gonna 18 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: be with us today and we're going to try to 19 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: get like a perspective of this, because nobody is knows 20 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: Indiana politics or government the past fifty years better than 21 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: that guy obviously spent thirty of them in the state House. 22 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: And this story now, because Indie Star had a big 23 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: expos on it, this morning. Obviously we've had the things 24 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: that have come out from Lobbianco, other people. Yeah, other 25 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: things are starting to come out. This is perhaps the 26 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: most bizarre story and it will be fascinating to get 27 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: Merit's perspective on it, because nobody's been around and seeing 28 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: more than that guy that I've ever heard of as 29 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: it relates to Indiana politics and government. And I just look, 30 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: I will say this about this story, and then we 31 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: got the redistarching stuff we got to get to. We've 32 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: got so many, so much stuff to get to. What 33 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: is interesting to me is that two things cannot be 34 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: true at the same time. And what I mean by 35 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: that is Tom Labianco by naming the guys, the journalists 36 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: who broke the story, the guys right from the get go, 37 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: he put the names out of the people who are 38 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: alleged to have been involved in this, which essentially you 39 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: could say, based on what the laws are both in 40 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: this state and federally now could potentially say he's accusing 41 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: those people of committing some sort of criminal act. The 42 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 1: fact that he named the guys, given Labianco's reputation not 43 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: where you like as politics, not where you like, the 44 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: stories he has a reputation of getting it right. And 45 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: when he shows up to town, everybody runs and hides 46 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: under the under the under the little fort you've made 47 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: in your bed, because he is He is a dude 48 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: who you don't want showing up in your backyard. 49 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 3: Do not want your his arrows pointed at you, that's 50 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 3: for sure. 51 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: And the fact that he named the names, well. 52 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: He's willing to take his career on it, and if 53 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 2: he's not correct, he risked his own defamation case. 54 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: Right, So you have him basically taking the stance by 55 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: name the names that this more likely than the not 56 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: happened in his view by naming the names, and what 57 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: he opens himself up to. 58 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 3: He's very confident. 59 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: And Micah Beck with the Lieutenant governor making definitive statement, 60 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: it didn't happen, right, did I imagine that Micah has 61 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: on multiple occasions now said it didn't happen. He's investigated it. 62 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 1: And so two things. And these guys are great guys, right, 63 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: I think I've kind of so, so these two things 64 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: cannot be true. They cannot be There is no that 65 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: I see any sort of gray area on this, and 66 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: so one of them's got to be right, and one 67 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: of them is going to be wrong and whatever the 68 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: truth comes out about this, If indeed the Marion County 69 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: Prosecutor is now investigating this, as Haggard confirmed an Indie 70 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: sart and we'll talk to him about it at ten o'clock. 71 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm gonna ask him what you know, they've 72 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: asked him. 73 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: They're going to get to the bottom of it. They're 74 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: gonna be if they if they care at all about 75 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: the truth. And then one of these people, either a 76 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: high profile national journalist who's opened himself up big time 77 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: or Micah beck With, the Lieutenant governor, one of them 78 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: is going to be big wrong. 79 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 2: Well, there's something I think we need to touch on, 80 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: and that is, regardless of guilt or innocence, this has 81 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: become a distraction in the Lieutenant Governor's office. 82 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 4: And. 83 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: I think that those who have been named need to 84 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: take a really hard look in the mirror and decide 85 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 2: what they're going to do. 86 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 3: Regardless of their guilt or innocence. 87 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 2: They have become a distraction in that office, not only 88 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 2: for Micah beck With, but for the office of the 89 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 2: Lieutenant governor of the great State of Indiana. 90 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you make a great point. The office is 91 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: so much bigger than Micah. Right, he's the guy sitting 92 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: in the seat, but it belongs to the people. 93 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 2: Correct, He's the guy there right now. 94 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: And here is I would say, And then I know 95 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: we gotta get under the redistricting stuff to whoever wants 96 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: to hear this. I've been around this business a long 97 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: time and I've had a lot of success in this business. 98 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: And one of the reasons I've had success in this 99 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: business because I know how the business operates and you 100 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: are the same for you, right, And whoever wants to 101 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: hear this or needs to hear this, just take what 102 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: I'm about to tell you to heart. I don't know 103 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: what the truth is. I know there's two sides telling 104 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: very different stories. What I will tell you about a 105 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: guy like Tom Lobbiancle because I've known Tom and been 106 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: aware his work for a long time, because he wrote 107 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: for The Indie Star. He wrote for the Indie Star 108 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: for several years before he went national. Guys like Tom Labianco, 109 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: they're really good at what they do, and they generally 110 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: with a big story like this, if you think of it, 111 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: like like how they write a season of television? How 112 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: do they write a season of television. 113 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,559 Speaker 3: Well, they know how it's going to end before before 114 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:56,679 Speaker 3: the first episode airs. 115 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, they start at the end, what do 116 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: we want to accomplish and work and then fill in 117 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: the story for the episodes as we go forward. That 118 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: is generally on a megastory, especially when a journalist like 119 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: this puts himself out there the way Labianco has done 120 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: by naming the names. Generally not in every case, doesn't 121 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: mean it's happening here. I'm just Uncle Rob's giving some 122 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: life advice on how the media works. Right, And to 123 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: some extent, we do this too when we tease big stories. 124 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: We've broken several stories the past couple months, and case 125 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: you've been a part of all of those before they 126 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: went on the air. What did we have? 127 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: Well, you did it last night, you put something out 128 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: on X and you said, hey, we're going to have 129 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: a big guest tomorrow. 130 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 3: You didn't say who it was, right, you knew who 131 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 3: it was exactly. Yeah. 132 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: But when we've broken these the du multiple dui stories, 133 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: we had all of this stuff and we gave people 134 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: the opportunity to do what the right thing correct, to 135 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: come forward because we had definitive proof that we knew 136 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: if we had to do it, which we did, whether 137 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: it was the the bo Baird Dui that didn't get 138 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: somehow magically reported because things were intered wrong, right, whatever 139 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: that was seven or eight years ago that he said, yeah, okay, 140 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: that was me. I did that, or the bohachiic stuff 141 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: up in up in northern Indiana. We broke that story. 142 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: We gave that guy plenty because we had the goods 143 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: and that's how you really should do it. And so 144 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I would be floored. Doesn't mean I've been 145 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: wrong before that. I would be floored if Tom Labianco 146 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: didn't have some sort of something that he at least 147 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: believed was a smoking gun in all of this, because 148 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: of how he has opened himself up to potential legal 149 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: entanglements if this were proved to be an incorrect story. 150 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: So whoever needs to hear that or wants to hear that, 151 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: you can ignore that. I'm just saying, because you are 152 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: absolutely right. This has become ridiculous at this point and 153 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: we need to get some closure on it. So we 154 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: just go back to doing doing life, go. 155 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 3: Back to governing. 156 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: I mean, when you think about it, the lieutenant governor 157 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: is in charge of agriculture in the state of bust. 158 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 3: He's supposed to be. 159 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: It's a what seven billion dollar industry, maybe more, maybe less. 160 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: It feeds a nation. 161 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: There are important. 162 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: Things, whether you like to admit it or not, There 163 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 2: are important things that the Lieutenant Governor's office should be 164 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 2: focused on. 165 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 3: This is not one of them. 166 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 2: So if you're part of this group, you've become a 167 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 2: distraction for the work. 168 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 3: That that office should be doing. 169 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's take a break from one ridiculous 170 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: thing to the next. This whole redistricting thing, and now 171 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: how they're going to try to it looks like pressure 172 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: in Hey, who said that before it became news. Hey, 173 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: raise your hand if you broke the story that somebody 174 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: big was coming to Indiana to pressure and redistricting. Oh, 175 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: that's us. We're raising our hands. 176 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 177 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: See what when you have great sources just to bring 178 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: this all for full circle, when you got the goods 179 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: and you got the proof that you can say stuff 180 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 1: like that, and boy, howdy, were we first? And were 181 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: we right? 182 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 3: We're talking about JD. 183 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 2: Vance coming to town tomorrow and we'll do that next 184 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 2: On ninety three WIBC Tech Fredrie. 185 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: This redistricting stuff is so ridiculous. And if Braun goes 186 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: along with it, after telling the state that special sessions 187 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: and vetoing stuff was a lost cause to the General Assembly, 188 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: would do just ever whatever they wanted to do in 189 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: property taxes, which he did. We all heard Braun say 190 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: that on Tony Kat's show. He set in other places 191 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: too that well, I could have done that, I could 192 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: have vetoted and called a special session. But one what 193 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: would that have accomplish? If Braun calls a special session 194 00:09:55,840 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: for redistricting after stabbing millions of people in the back 195 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: to help them afford to stay in their homes, because 196 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: special sessions and all that is a lost cause, they 197 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: should this is what should happen to him. They should tattoo. 198 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: He should be forced to wear a tattoo on his forehead. 199 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: This says I am a liar for the remainder of 200 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: his delusional days. Casey, this is gross. 201 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 2: I did ask Tony Kass's producer Carl if he could 202 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 2: find that audio when Governor Braun said that special sessions 203 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 2: would be a. 204 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 3: Waste of time. 205 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 2: He said it would take him a while to dig 206 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: that up because it happened a few months ago. 207 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 3: But he did say it. 208 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 2: And so which is it is a special session a 209 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 2: waste of time or is it only appropriate when it's 210 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 2: something that he wants to get accomplished. 211 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: Okay, so just kind of to reset that it was 212 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: announced yesterday. Of course we told you this before everybody else, 213 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: because I had the sources in the State House that 214 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: were telling me it was going down. Hey, Braun, just 215 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: remember yet people all talk to me. So when you 216 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: flap in your gums and all the Braun people, remember 217 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: Uncle Rob's going get the info because you have no idea. 218 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: This is the great thing about this show, Casey, and 219 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: this is the thing I love about this show. There 220 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: are so many people we both heard it. Every radio 221 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: in the State House was on us yesterday. And there 222 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: are so many people who sit there quietly at their 223 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: desk and they cheer for us, and they can't say 224 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: it out loud because they get a paycheck and they 225 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: feed their families based on these politicians. But there are 226 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: so many people who on a daily basis cheer us. 227 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: We are the little engine that could, because we are 228 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: the people out there telling the truth. And so that's 229 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: how we get the info. Y'all flap your gums and 230 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: then people tell us stuff because they want people to know. 231 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: They want people to know that we are the place 232 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: to go to that we get the info. And they 233 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: told us yesterday lo Bertie about seven thirty in the morning, 234 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: tweet tweet, Hey jd Vance is coming to Indiana and 235 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: they're going to talk about redistricting, And boy howdy what 236 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: came out yesterday. 237 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 2: Jd Vance is visiting Indianapolis tomorrow to meet with Governor Braun. 238 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: They're also saying that he's going to be meeting with 239 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 2: Todd Houston, the Speaker of the House, and also Rod Bray, 240 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 2: and they're going to be discussing the potential of redistricting 241 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 2: Indiana's congressional districts. My question is, where is the Secretary 242 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 2: of State, Diego Morales in this mix. 243 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: He's in charge of elections, That's what I've been told, 244 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: and he's the hardest working man in all of Indiana politics. 245 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 3: So is he gonna warm his way into those meetings? 246 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: By the way, we totally can me too, me too, 247 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: pick me, We totally forget. I can't believe we forgot 248 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: this because we got so distracted on all this other 249 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: shenanigans that are allegedly going on Indie Star. I think 250 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: it was Kaitlin, Kaitlyn Dwyer, Kayla Dwyer. 251 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: All right, she went there. 252 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: This this is hilarious, This is great. 253 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 2: This is great because he keeps saying that he arrives 254 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: at our beautiful state House at what five am? 255 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: Is what he says. 256 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 2: So she got up early and got there at five 257 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 2: forty five to check to see if he was there. 258 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So cayleb Dwyer from the Indie Star rolled 259 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: in there about five forty five and the doors are 260 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: shut and she knocks on the door and she makes 261 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: it sound like remember Eddie Murphy used to do the 262 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: mister Robinson character on Saturday Night Live where he was 263 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: like the kinda it was a play on mister Rogers 264 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: neighborhood but anyway, and he used to answer the door, 265 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: who is it? And that's what she made it sound like. 266 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: She knocks on the door and you hear the Diego's 267 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: a meek voice. Who is it? And she identifies herself. Now, 268 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: keep in mind, the whole picture of Diego is non 269 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: match customer service. I'm here at five am every day 270 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: and blah blah blah blah blah blah. He tells her 271 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: to get lost and scram you know whatever, come back 272 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: at seven or whenever the door is supposedly open. Okay, fine, 273 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: like and I don't think I don't think she said 274 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 1: he ever even actually opened the door. Like it was 275 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: like something out of the Wizard of oz A pictures 276 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: where he's behind these. If you've never been to the 277 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: state it's the state office. They have these gigantic wood 278 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: they're oak I think doors. I mean they're really heavy 279 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: doors from the probably the eighteen hundreds. And I'm picturing 280 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: Diego be cowering behind the door. 281 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 5: Who is it? 282 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: Get out of here. So she comes back at the 283 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: allotted time or whatever whenever he supposedly told her to 284 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: come back, and then he was busy. 285 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 3: Then they told her he was he was busy. 286 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: So mister customer service, I'm here at five am every day, 287 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: can tell me right now, come back later. 288 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 3: He's busy right now? 289 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: Okay, Anyway, we got dereled. So that look, this jerrymandering 290 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: is about abusing you and abusing the process and rigging 291 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: the process, not in terms of fairness but in terms 292 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: of a desired outcome. And Merritt's going to join us 293 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: next and I think he's going to get into this 294 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: that he has seen because he's still got all these 295 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: people that love him in the state House. He has 296 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: seen sample maps of what they're looking at doing, and 297 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: I was under the president. They're looking to carve that 298 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: that it's District one, which is the read. We're going 299 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: to try to rig that to get a Republican in 300 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: there because they've had the National Republicans have had a 301 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: target on that the past few years. Merret claims he's 302 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: seen maps where they try to take out Andre Carson. 303 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 3: Too Indianapolis as well. 304 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: Now, look, they've already rigged the district in favor of 305 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: Carson and as a result, in favor of like Victoria's 306 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: Sparts or the fifth district. They've already done that. How 307 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: are you going to square that with the straight face? 308 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: We just did this. We're supposed to be doing this 309 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: fairly to begin with, and now we're going to alter 310 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: two districts in order to give our side more of 311 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: an advantage because we can't get the advantage fair and 312 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: square because we govern like crap. 313 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 2: Okay, so Broun described the discussion as exploratory. No firm 314 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 2: commitments have been made, but then you have the vice 315 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: president coming in. GOP currently controls seven out of Indiana's 316 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 2: nine US House seats, and Indiana Democrats don't have the 317 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 2: numbers to block a special session, and unlike was going 318 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 2: on in Texas where they fled to Illinois to break 319 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: that quorum. 320 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: But again, it's the highly fraudulent nature of these people, 321 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: in which Mike Braun told the entire state, I won't 322 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: help you with your property taxes and veto this bill 323 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: and call special session, which is exactly what we were 324 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: begging him to do. We said, make them earn it, 325 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: make them play the game. If they're gonna do what 326 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: they're gonna do, fine, if you get the veto gets 327 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: overridden and they go in there and they vote to 328 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: do it, your hands are clean. Make them in little league. 329 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: I had a coach who used to shout from the dugout, 330 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: make them play the game. What that meant was hit 331 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: the ball. Don't try to hit a home run. They're 332 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: little leaguers. Make them feel the ground ball, make them 333 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: throw to first base, make the first baseman catch it. 334 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: The odds of them doing all of that, or some 335 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: of you just hit the ball, there's a good chance 336 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: you'll get on first base, make them play the game. 337 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: That's what we were asking Broun to do, and for 338 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: him to say no, it's pointless when it comes to 339 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: helping you afford to stay in your home. But then 340 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 1: if he calls a special session to rig the electoral 341 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: process in favor of his party, what a giant slap 342 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: in the face and middle finger to seven million people. 343 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 2: Has it been reported that Jade Vance is going to 344 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 2: be anywhere in public for constituents to see him. 345 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 3: Will he be speaking? 346 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it'll be like the pope, or 347 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: he gets in that mobile right and just dry. 348 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 3: Because I'm just wondering. According to Donald Trump, he's the 349 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 3: heir apparent for president. 350 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 6: This weekend, Secretary of State Rubio said that he thought JD. 351 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 6: Vance would be a great nominee. You could clear the 352 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 6: entire Republican field right now. Do you agree that the 353 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 6: air apparent to MAGA is Jade Vance? 354 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 4: Well, I think most likely, in all fairness, he's the 355 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 4: vice president. I think Marco is also somebody that maybe 356 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 4: would get together with JD. 357 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: In some form. 358 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 4: I also think we have incredible people, some of the 359 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 4: people in the stage right here, So it's too early 360 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 4: obviously to talk about it, but certainly he's doing a 361 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 4: great job and he would be probably favorite at this point. 362 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: There you go, all right, so we're gonna Merrit's gonna 363 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: Jim Merrit's gonna join us next. He has been through 364 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: multiple redistrictings as a member of the Indiana Senate at 365 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 1: their allotted normal time, So we'll talk about that. We'll 366 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: talk about these maps he's supposedly saying that are potentially 367 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: going to take out Andrey Carson too. Uh, and we'll 368 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: get his thoughts on these allegations about a I porn 369 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: being viewed in the Lieutenant Governor's office. 370 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 3: He joins us next on ninety three w YBC. 371 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: There is so much going on in the state House, really, 372 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: what I can't I don't even know where to begin. 373 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 5: I'm building full of content. 374 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so uh it's Jim Merrity the way thirty 375 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 1: years in the Indiana Centate. Jim Meritt, Hello, Robert, you 376 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: are a residential dean of all things in the politics 377 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: and government on how it works. 378 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 5: Sometimes I like that, other times don't. 379 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: I will dealers choice you because there's two topics I 380 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: want to get to today. You can either start with 381 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: redistricting or the allegations of artificial intelligence, pornography, your choice. 382 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 5: Well, let's get the redistricting. That's got less appeal out 383 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 5: there because it's summer and people aren't paying it. 384 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: Okay, very good. So Casey and I opened the show 385 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: with this, which and he's keeping people in. He's becoming 386 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: a broadcast. It's like when Pinocchio became a real boy. 387 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: You're becoming a real broadcaster. Okay, So Casey and I 388 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: started the show with this. My opinion on this is 389 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: well noted. This is complete crap to me. We have 390 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: the redistricting every ten years, we have a census, we 391 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: work off that every state in the Union should stay 392 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: with that. We should have fair districts. If they work 393 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: for Republicans, great, they work for Democrats great. If you 394 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: don't like it, have better policies, win more elections. I 395 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: think this is ridiculous. And if Braun calls a special 396 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: session for redistricting to rig the electoral map in favor 397 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: of the Republicans after publicly declaring it a colossal waste 398 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: of time on property tax reform, which was his signature issue, 399 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: the public should be outraged. What say you, I agree 400 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: with you. 401 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 5: I think that I went through three with withdraw what's great. 402 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you probably didn't go through three withdraws at three 403 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: three Yeah. 404 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 5: And uh and and uh in nineteen ninety one, my 405 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 5: first session, uh in two thousand and one, and then 406 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 5: twenty eleven. And and that is that is what it's 407 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 5: designed for. And you're exactly right. The census kind of rules. 408 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 5: The day my district, my Senate district, one hundred and 409 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 5: thirty thousand people, you could see the population move from 410 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 5: northeastern Indianapolis to Fishers into Hancock County and and and 411 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 5: you had to really follow one man, one vote, sorry Casey. 412 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 4: But h. 413 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: And they let the women vote at some point. 414 00:20:58,840 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 415 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 5: I don't think I'm gonna quote on that. But the 416 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 5: bottom line is is you had a you have a process, 417 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 5: and we went through it three different times. You've got 418 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 5: technology that's going to help you devise this and it 419 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 5: has to be reasonable to the public. And the idea 420 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 5: of this change is not reasonable. And you know, you 421 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 5: have your Illinois, you have your Californias, you have your 422 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 5: Jerrymanderings and Elbridge. Jerry right now is is very happy 423 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 5: in his grave. 424 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: Wait. Wait, there's a guy who Jerry Mannering is named after. 425 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 5: Yes, Elbridge. 426 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: Can you tell us the story in that in one 427 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: minute or less? 428 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 5: Well, Massachusetts, there's a real dude. Yes, yes, anybody would know. 429 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 3: It would be you tell us right about our show, 430 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 3: you teach you something you didn't? 431 00:21:54,920 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 5: Yes, And and and that individual in Massachusetts he really 432 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 5: rocked the boat by putting these districts redrawing the districts 433 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 5: that were totally against the one man vote, and it 434 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 5: really cause a fuel And that's why they called jerryman. 435 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 3: Oh that's crazy. 436 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: Some word they made up. That's only you did I 437 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: do it in a minute? You did ten seconds? 438 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 5: Yeah? 439 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:26,959 Speaker 1: Okay, So they are just trying to rig the districts 440 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: in favor of getting in this case of Indiana as 441 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: an extra Republican. 442 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 5: Well or two. 443 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: I probably don't draw. 444 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 5: And Carson they know, they know I'm going to be 445 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 5: on here for a couple of minutes with you and 446 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 5: the people send me these maps that show that you 447 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 5: can you can change Carson. 448 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: Yes, you've seen a map that would cause Henry Carson 449 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: to lose. 450 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 5: Yes, along with Congressman Frank Mr Van Junr. Well, so 451 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 5: it would be it could be all Republicans in Indiana, 452 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 5: so the two seats would be picked up. 453 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 2: Is there any possibility that they would add a district 454 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: like split one in half? 455 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 5: I think there are. I think it's I think it's 456 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 5: constitutional that you have to you have guidelines in that 457 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 5: regard because you can't district. 458 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it works off the census, right, Yes, you 459 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: get congressional representation based on every ten years how which 460 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: is why they do it that way. 461 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 5: But but the Indiana Constitution does not bar what could 462 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 5: actually happen here. 463 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: So it could happen. 464 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 5: And as well as the Democrats can't can't they can protest, 465 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 5: but with the supermajority, Uh, Governor Brown can call a 466 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 5: special session and and the and the legislators have to 467 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 5: come in and and they don't have to do anything. 468 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 5: They could be vetoed. But bottom line is is this 469 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 5: can happen. Uh, it's very it's very vague. You talk 470 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 5: about a you know, an iceberg mostly underwater. You you 471 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 5: can fill figure this out. I'm against it, but it 472 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 5: can be figured out. 473 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: Okay, real quick, I just wanted to Jim marrit Is 474 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: our gues. We're talking about this redistricting casey, go ahead. 475 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 2: Well, my question is it's being reported that Jade Vance 476 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 2: is going to meet with the Governor Mike Brawn as 477 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 2: well as to Todd Houston and Rod Bray. 478 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 3: Where is Diego Morales the Secretary of State? Well that's 479 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 3: what I've been told. 480 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, well I'm sure he's gonna have he's going to 481 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 5: try to have a piece of the action here and 482 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 5: maybe even Todd Rokena, the Attorney general. Because if you 483 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 5: remember the people that listened to this, uh, Secretary of 484 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 5: State Rokeeda actually had a had a a program many 485 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 5: many years ago, and this is this is Secretary of State. 486 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 5: Really he didn't have anything to do with redistrict. 487 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: Where'd you hear this? 488 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 5: Casey? 489 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: Where do you hear this? 490 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 3: Right here? 491 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: On this that's right. Yes, he tried stuck his nose 492 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: into it in a rare act of decency from Todd 493 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 1: Roketa in a land far away, in a time long 494 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: for good. He tried to draw fair or he wanted 495 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: artificial intelligence. They are primitive days of AI to draw 496 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 1: fair maps. And y'all you and the legislature question, yeah 497 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: you said, kiss our smooch our butt cheeks, yiss, because because. 498 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 5: It shows, uh, the code and the Constitution says that 499 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 5: the legislature is in charge. 500 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: But y'all could have used that. Let's be honest. Why 501 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: you did that. You wanted more Republicans, Well, we wanted 502 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: to you can control Yeah, right, exactly, Okay, real, okay, 503 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: let's switch gears here real quick. 504 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 5: Jim Merritt is our guest. 505 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: One more thing. If Braun calls a special session on this, 506 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: after declaring to Tony Katz and other people, well, it 507 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: was pointless to have a special session on property taxes. 508 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: I could have betted it, but they just would have 509 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: done whatever they wanted to do. Anyway, if he calls 510 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: a special session on this, they should have to tattoo 511 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: I'm a liar right on that guy's forehead. 512 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 2: Right. 513 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 5: Well, everybody knows that I wanted a special session towards 514 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 5: the end of June because the because proper proper taxes 515 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 5: as well as as well as that, you know, a 516 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 5: erratic budget in the middle of April. We could have 517 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 5: had something that was reasonable for the next two years. 518 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: So yes, he can call special sens that should be 519 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: Remember in the end of Glorious Bastards where they catch 520 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: the jew hunter and they mark him before they give 521 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: him over to the to the Americans. That's what they 522 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: should do with Braun, except it should be a giant 523 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: tattoo I'm. 524 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 5: A liar for the rest of his days. 525 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: He'd have to wander the great State of Indiana with 526 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: I'm a liar right on the forehead. 527 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 5: I've seen special sessions. Fix fix less. 528 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: Okay, real quick, Jim Merritt is our guest. We got 529 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: about three minutes on this. You have been around Indiana 530 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: politics and government since basically about the time man walked. 531 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 2: On the moon. 532 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 1: Correct, I'm not being began, Yes, so early seventies. Yes, 533 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: very good. Have you ever heard of a story in 534 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: fifty plus years as bizarre as the one that Tom 535 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: Lombianco has put out about allegedly artificial intelligence pornography of 536 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: a state reps wife being viewed and shared in Lieutenant 537 00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: Governor's office. 538 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 5: No, in fact, in fact, this is a federal issue. 539 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 5: We know this is a federal issue. The first lady 540 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 5: testified in front of Congress on this. This is something 541 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 5: I am sickened about, Missus Haggard and Representative Haggard. This 542 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 5: is a situation that I'm hurrying describing here. This is 543 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 5: a pox on all the houses on the State House 544 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 5: and what's happening here. No one has come out and 545 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 5: said vainly denied this what happened other than Micah. Well, 546 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 5: it was a soft I did my own investigation here. 547 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 5: This is an iceberg where most of it is underwater 548 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 5: right now, and it's something that we all have to 549 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 5: be concerned about. I'm sick about it because the family 550 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 5: people and this young lady was singing. I saw her. 551 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 5: She has a beautiful voy there. Yeah, I was there 552 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 5: and no one's seen the video. But it's a circular 553 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 5: firing squad at the State House right now. The Republican 554 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 5: Party doesn't have any discipline about it. Somebody needs to 555 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 5: put their foot down about this and get everybody flying 556 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 5: the same way. 557 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: Well, you didn't even need three minutes. I did that 558 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: in a minute and a half in Sydney, like George Costanzi. 559 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: Go out on a high note. Yeah, merret in the morning. 560 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: That's the podcast, YEP, YouTube, Facebook and find him on 561 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: Twitter at Jim underline Merritt Robert, You're the best. Thank you. 562 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 3: It's Kennelly Casey. It's ninety three WYBC. 563 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: Okay, coming up top the next hour, We've got a 564 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: special guest State Representative Craig Haggard is going to join us. 565 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: His wife is at the center of these allegations involving 566 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: artificial intelligence porn being shared in Lieutenant Governor's office. She 567 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: was at a charity event and then from that event, 568 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: allegedly this video was cre made, Who made created whatever, 569 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: and so he has come out publicly. He has very 570 00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: been very forceful. Indi he talked to Indie Starr. They 571 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: had out today about this. He obviously talked to Lobbyanco yesterday, 572 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: the guy who broke this, this alleged story, and he 573 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: will join us top of next hour. He's got some 574 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: things to say, So everybody stick around for that. 575 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. Governor Braun was actually asked about it. 576 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 2: He had a press scrum yesterday and he was asked 577 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 2: about it, and he did say that the Marian County 578 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 2: Prosecutor's office is involved and hopes that any office involved 579 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: is transparent. 580 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: Now, there is a rumor going around, and I've heard 581 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: this from enough people that I feel pretty strong I'd 582 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: say this out loud. I've heard it from enough people 583 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: who are not connected to each other that they were 584 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: already sniffing around on some other stuff. And I'll ask 585 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: a duel about this later because he's been looking into 586 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: it as well, and we'll get into that about because 587 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: everybody was kind of going, well, they got on this 588 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: really fast, like the normally prosecutor's offices, they don't just 589 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: investigate obviously, police that do this and et cetera. People like, 590 00:29:58,520 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: it's kind of weird they got on this this fast. 591 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: There is strong belief now from numerous corners of the 592 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: state House that they were already looking into some other stuff. 593 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: And so I'll ask him duel about that coming up later. 594 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: And people need to understand this is a massive story 595 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: in the state House. Like the beckwith, people are trying 596 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: to act like, oh, there's no big deal, this's just 597 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: some disgruntled employee who made this up. And this is 598 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: a massive story in the state House. And it has 599 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: the potential to be a massive story reverberating across the 600 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: state depending on what is what can be proven, or 601 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: what comes out of all of this. And so obviously 602 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: it has Craig Haggard's attention. He didn't clearly blow it off. 603 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: He's very upset about it. Yeah, and so look, until 604 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: everybody comes clean on whatever that looks like this is 605 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: going to remain a story, and there's always people that 606 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: want to blame us for everything. We don't got nothing 607 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: to do with it. We're reporting the news as it's 608 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: going out there everybody. We break some news, obviously, like 609 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: we did yesterday about Vance coming to Indianapolis. We do 610 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: do that, but this is why I tell people. The 611 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: majority of what we do is we comment on things 612 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: that other people report on. And so some people want 613 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: to be mad at us and say, well, this person 614 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: got let go and they were mad about this or 615 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: that or what. No, we comment on it because a legitimate, mainstream, 616 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: nationally known journalist put out a story about it, and 617 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: now other media entities are reporting on it. They're doing 618 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: their own pieces on it. It is a huge story 619 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: and until the truth comes out on this, it's going 620 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: to remain a big deal. 621 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 2: So days after a viral video showed some teens fighting 622 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 2: at the Indiana State Fair, guess what they announced a 623 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 2: policy change. 624 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: Oh okay, so real quick. We do have to give 625 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: credit to our guy, Indie reporter at Indie Underscore Reporter Underscore. 626 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: He broke this story of there was allegedly this fight 627 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: took place at the Indiana State Fair. He puts the 628 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: video out and then this is wild. He ends up 629 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: getting into it with a bunch of local people. We're 630 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: trying to refute it. 631 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 2: He's pointing firm if it really happened at the Indiana 632 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 2: State Fair at an Ocern State Fair, and it was. 633 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: Kind of injured because some of these people are going 634 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: at him, and he's like, look, I'm just posting the video. 635 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: These appear to be clearly have taken place at the 636 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: state Fair. I'm looking at markers. Steven went to the 637 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: went to. 638 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 5: The fair last night. 639 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: And then finally it appears a bunch of people came 640 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: out and we're like, yeah, we're having to change the 641 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: we're having to change the rules here because of an altercation. 642 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: And Steven's like. 643 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, told you something happened, got it. 644 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 2: Everybody becomes a private investigator all of a sudden, Internet sleuths. 645 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 3: On the job. 646 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 2: But it was the Indiana State Fair who came out 647 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 2: and said that they're changing their safety policy and that 648 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 2: is miners under the age of eighteen must be accompanied 649 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 2: by a parent, legal guardian or chaperone, and that chaperone has. 650 00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 3: To be twenty five years or older. 651 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 2: Now this applies Tuesday through Thursday, after six pm, and 652 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 2: then Friday through Sunday after four pm, no unaccompanied minors 653 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 2: will be admitted during those hours. 654 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: And again, kudos to the indie reporter guy, the little 655 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: engine that could, right, Like he keeps kidding all these things, right, 656 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: And I was laughing so hard because they're like known 657 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: media quantities in the city who were fighting with him 658 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: on so social media. He's like, here's the video, here 659 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: are the markers, here's who reported this first, Like he 660 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: got the video from They wanted to be right. 661 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 3: They were just checking making sure, they wanted to confirm. 662 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: They were being like quasi aggressive vim and he's just like, 663 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: here's the video you decigned. I don't know. It looks 664 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: like the state fair to me. And then he ended 665 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: up being right. Did he get an apology? Steve? And 666 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: I see you in the YouTube chat? Did I think 667 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: he did? Did someone apologize to you one of the 668 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: people who was being somewhat aggressive with you? Was there 669 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: an apology on that? I don't know he deserved one, 670 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: but anyway, he broke that story. So now you're saying 671 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: that because of an incident that they're changing the policy 672 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: of Yeah, I thought they did this last last year. 673 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: Didn't we go through this last year where you had 674 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: to have an adult with you? Did they repeal the 675 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: thing that was last year? 676 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 2: Well, the interesting part about this is that they're saying 677 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 2: that the chaperone has to be twenty five or older. 678 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: Okay, so if you're twenty four and your parent you 679 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: got to have somebody. How pathetic is that? 680 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 3: That's that's the part that's questionable. 681 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: Maybe so if you're a twenty four year old, which 682 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: is not out of the realm to say, er, you 683 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 1: could have an eight year old kid or whatever, you 684 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: got to have another adult with you as a twenty 685 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: four year old. By the way, steven says he did 686 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: not get an apology. 687 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 3: Maybe that's forthcoming. 688 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: So Steven on behalf of all the people who are 689 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,720 Speaker 1: very mean to you on social media, thanks for breaking 690 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: that story, and we're sorry they were mean to you. 691 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: How about that? 692 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,280 Speaker 3: All right? Representative Craig Haggard is going to join us next. 693 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: Yes, his wife is at the center of these allegations 694 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: of aiporn being shared in the Lieutenant Governor's office. We'll 695 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: get his thoughts coming up. 696 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 3: It's Kendall and Casey on ninety three. 697 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: W I B see let catch below.