Speaker 1: Doing great man, Thanks for having me out here.
Speaker 2: My brother walk us through it so far? How has
Speaker 2: it been?
Speaker 3: I mean hell, I mean you're two days deep into
Speaker 3: this process so far, But how has it been?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Two days, four nights. I mean it's been great. I
Speaker 1: mean just getting in here, getting settled in obviously, trying
Speaker 1: to make it home as quickly as possible. And it's
Speaker 1: been great. I mean, getting to meet the guys even more,
Speaker 1: getting closer and tighter with them, and just going out
Speaker 1: there and doing my thing, playing the sport I love.
Speaker 1: So I can't complain right now?
Speaker 3: Does it make it any more special because you landed
Speaker 3: with your hometown team?
Speaker 2: There's definitely something behind it.
Speaker 1: I mean obviously I not know what it is until
Speaker 1: later on or right now. I mean, it could be little,
Speaker 1: it could be big, but I know there's something behind it,
Speaker 1: and I know it's just all God's blessing and just
Speaker 1: got to make the most of it, come out he
Speaker 1: every day and compete.
Speaker 3: Now, did you have to pinch yourself when you first
Speaker 3: heard that they were going to draft you back in
Speaker 3: the spring of the draft? You goll wow, you got
Speaker 3: to be kidding me right here? Was that the destination
Speaker 3: you thought or might there have been another destination for
Speaker 3: you at that time.
Speaker 1: Ever since I saw that three one seven call call
Speaker 1: al Idy, I knew, uh, I first saw it was
Speaker 1: a prank call, but after it I definitely, uh, just
Speaker 1: kind of it all sank in at the same time
Speaker 1: and felt I blacked out for about three minutes. It
Speaker 1: wasn't real. And uh, I mean after it all of
Speaker 1: a sudden done. I mean, it's definitely just such a
Speaker 1: surreal moment I got to take in.
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Speaker 2: I'm curious too.
Speaker 3: You have met every single challenge at every level and
Speaker 3: probably have been told in the past. Yeah, you know what,
Speaker 3: I don't know if this is going to be for
Speaker 3: you and you've proven people wrong. Is this just another
Speaker 3: kind of rung in that particular ladder of trying to
Speaker 3: get to where you want to go? And really it
Speaker 3: seems like the environment in which you thrive a great
Speaker 3: deal as a part.
Speaker 1: Of Yeah, I mean, obviously I'm not going to shy
Speaker 1: away from competition and battles. I mean you got to practice,
Speaker 1: You got to make mistakes to get him corrected. You
Speaker 1: just can't make the same mistake twice. And I feel
Speaker 1: like that's why I do such a good job at
Speaker 1: and just being a great teammate. Obviously, you want to
Speaker 1: be the guy that everybody likes being around and just
Speaker 1: making sure you take all the advice you can get,
Speaker 1: be a sponge as I've been hearing around here, and
Speaker 1: just soaking it all up and really just making the
Speaker 1: most of it every day, taking one day at a time,
Speaker 1: and just working aside as they possibly can.
Speaker 3: All right, now, you're going to have to head the
Speaker 3: old man some advice here, if you wouldn't mind. So
Speaker 3: I'm not a mistake free I make mistakes all the time,
Speaker 3: and then I compound those mistakes by making them again.
Speaker 3: So how do you how do you compartmentalized mistakes and
Speaker 3: then move on from them to not make them again?
Speaker 3: Because to me, somebody like me, Kayden, that seems to
Speaker 3: be a special skill.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, obviously I still make mistakes. Everybody's human,
Speaker 1: but it's just I mean from a football aspect, it's
Speaker 1: the mental reps. It's the reps outside of practice, it's
Speaker 1: the reps in.
Speaker 4: The meeting room.
Speaker 1: It's just making sure that you keep going over until
Speaker 1: it's kind of engraved in your head. And obviously it
Speaker 1: sounds a lot to you eas you're said and done,
Speaker 1: and then you got to actually be the one that's
Speaker 1: going to go out there and do it. You can
Speaker 1: say a lot, but are you actually going to do it?
Speaker 1: So that's really what I kind of go at and
Speaker 1: just making sure that I get my extra time in
Speaker 1: and uh, just praying.
Speaker 2: Are you always prepared?
Speaker 3: Have you been a guy that not just in sports,
Speaker 3: but just in all fastest of life? Do you always
Speaker 3: feel like you're somebody that's going into whatever situation it
Speaker 3: is prepared.
Speaker 1: I'm always thinking about the worst before I go out there,
Speaker 1: and then obviously preparing for the best. You got to
Speaker 1: see both sides, and you got to see how you
Speaker 1: want to see it, and you kind of got to
Speaker 1: manifest what you want, and you also got to prepared
Speaker 1: prepared for things to go wrong. And then that's when
Speaker 1: you kind of have your backup plan and obviously you
Speaker 1: don't want to go to it, but uh, I mean
Speaker 1: it's always got to be there setting stone just so
Speaker 1: you're ready.
Speaker 2: Kayden, Where do you get your competitive gene.
Speaker 1: I love to say for my parents, but it's also
Speaker 1: from God too. I feel like that's kind of my
Speaker 1: special ability. He gave me just to keep going no
Speaker 1: matter what and just to embrace the grind. But I
Speaker 1: also give it to my parents and my brothers. My
Speaker 1: brothers especially girl. If I was the youngest, they definitely
Speaker 1: gave me the beat down in the backyard of the
Speaker 1: basketball court and just for a football and everything. They
Speaker 1: made sure that I was the youngest and that I
Speaker 1: knew every day.
Speaker 3: I often thought this that it benefited the younger kids
Speaker 3: that are playing when you get knocked around by the
Speaker 3: older dudes. And that's why when I played basketball as
Speaker 3: an old dude, we play with the younger guys as well,
Speaker 3: and it seems like they get better just by playing
Speaker 3: against an older group. Even if that older group has
Speaker 3: no chance of being as good as the younger person,
Speaker 3: it always seems to be beneficial when it comes down
Speaker 3: to competition.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, if you're the young guy, then
Speaker 1: you can't compete with the older kids. You're not playing,
Speaker 1: so you had to step up and you had to
Speaker 1: be out there practicing, getting those extra reps just to
Speaker 1: be able to play with them. So my brothers always
Speaker 1: have so many friends over and they'd be doing basketball tournament,
Speaker 1: so I'd be out there two hours before and getting
Speaker 1: my shots out of being sure I wasn't letting the
Speaker 1: order hit the bigger kids down, so I had to
Speaker 1: make sure it hit my shots too.
Speaker 3: How big was Eric Moore in your life? You're high
Speaker 3: school coach at sine Grove. I have a great deal
Speaker 3: of admiration for him. He knows that too, and every
Speaker 3: player form player I talked to of his basically says
Speaker 3: the same thing. How would you describe your former high
Speaker 3: school head coach?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean just from the beginning kind of when
Speaker 1: I went in to play football at Synegram at the
Speaker 1: high school level, I was still kind of a baseball
Speaker 1: oriented guy. I thought that was my past, and he
Speaker 1: kind of just showed me the light. He showed me
Speaker 1: what it definitely needed to take to get to that level,
Speaker 1: and he just showed me how to embrace it, love
Speaker 1: the game and just from how hard a summer workouts are.
Speaker 1: But I mean, obviously you start you hate it, but
Speaker 1: when you get done, you definitely see the benefits and
Speaker 1: you see why you do it. And you see why
Speaker 1: it's so important to get out there and just do
Speaker 1: it every single morning. And just the way that he
Speaker 1: kind of mentally gave me the game of the life
Speaker 1: in life and sports. He taught me how to be
Speaker 1: a man. Obviously going through high school wasn't as big
Speaker 1: as it is going to college, but I mean he
Speaker 1: definitely made sure that I was college ready and just
Speaker 1: definitely just was prepared and just going into any situation
Speaker 1: with the most and maximizing the most out of every
Speaker 1: single day. He's definitely somebody important in my life in
Speaker 1: the early stages and definitely one of the strongest men
Speaker 1: in my foundation.
Speaker 3: By the way, when you hit four hundred foot bombs
Speaker 3: in baseball, people are going to view you as a
Speaker 3: baseball player. You realize that, right. I've heard the stories
Speaker 3: because Rick Clark has had the tape measure and he's
Speaker 3: measured your home runs and he's told me four hundred
Speaker 3: foot bombs.
Speaker 1: I bet they playing great music while doing.
Speaker 3: It way way too loud, probably and inappropriate.
Speaker 2: Ad that too.
Speaker 3: Kayden Curry's joining us something anymore Automotive Group Hotline. How
Speaker 3: much has Patient's been involved in all this too? And
Speaker 3: because of your preparation at Ohio State. How do you
Speaker 3: feel about going into your rookie season with the Colts
Speaker 3: Because you did wait your turn in Columbus and as
Speaker 3: we saw, it paid off big. You're really betting on
Speaker 3: yourself in this and it paid off for you. How
Speaker 3: do you get that patience and then how do you
Speaker 3: also take that patience to the NFL level?
Speaker 1: I feel like it's different. I mean in college, obviously,
Speaker 1: you know you have four years to kind of get
Speaker 1: it done.
Speaker 4: You know, you have.
Speaker 1: Your freshman year to kind of learn, your sophomore in
Speaker 1: junior year to kind of grow, and then your senior
Speaker 1: year to be dominant. That's kind of where I was
Speaker 1: kind of looking out of going into college. But here
Speaker 1: in the NFL you definitely have to just they're not
Speaker 1: looking for patients. You got to be urgent every single day.
Speaker 1: You got to earn your spot. I mean, there's only
Speaker 1: fifty three people that can go and there's only fifty
Speaker 1: three people that can play, so I mean you got
Speaker 1: to make sure that you make the most of every
Speaker 1: rep that you get and just minimizing the stakes. You
Speaker 1: can't make the same mistake twice. And obviously you got
Speaker 1: to grow as fast as possible. Obviously, the older guys
Speaker 1: are going to help you along the way and they
Speaker 1: have more knowledge than you. So you just like I
Speaker 1: said before, it's got to be a sponge and just
Speaker 1: embrace everything that's around us. And I mean really just
Speaker 1: just that grind. I mean, being patient is so many
Speaker 1: different ways to it. It's a mental aspect, that's the
Speaker 1: physical aspect. I mean, it's rely just doing as much
Speaker 1: as you can every single day to make sure that
Speaker 1: you're the best version of yourself and just fighting for
Speaker 1: it every single day.
Speaker 3: You get a lot of high schoo fans, a lot
Speaker 3: of people you grew up with that have checked you
Speaker 3: out up there.
Speaker 2: The first couple of days, approachice.
Speaker 1: I'm getting.
Speaker 4: I'm getting everything.
Speaker 1: The past two days, I've heard kids, you know, and
Speaker 1: I'm from North Central, I'm from Westfield. You beat me,
Speaker 1: you ran me over. I'm like, guys, come on the game,
Speaker 1: it's whatever. I'm getting a lot of it right now.
Speaker 1: I'm getting a lot of Fernando haters at me.
Speaker 3: Right now.
Speaker 4: I'm getting.
Speaker 3: No, you're not getting You're getting Mendoza haters because of
Speaker 3: that hitting the Big ten title game.
Speaker 2: Wow, that still comes in direction Huh, I.
Speaker 1: Just I just keep telling them, I'm just hey, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna make you some good memories here so
Speaker 1: we can just wipe them, wipe the past.
Speaker 3: Well, Dady fans, that was a hell of a hit,
Speaker 3: and he was the first one to say that that
Speaker 3: was an incredibly clean hit. But while that's a signature
Speaker 3: for you, you created a signature moment for him at
Speaker 3: the same time too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it definitely was a two way street.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's such a great player, and I mean
Speaker 1: I wish nothing but the best for him. But uh,
Speaker 1: it was on our it was on our game plan.
Speaker 1: I mean, kas Patricia told me, he said, if you
Speaker 1: guys want to beat these you guys, you got to
Speaker 1: take that quarterback out. And uh, I guess I took
Speaker 1: it very literal and had the opportunity first play. I mean,
Speaker 1: it wasn't it was definitely. Uh it was a hard hit,
Speaker 1: but I feel like it was clean and uh, I
Speaker 1: definitely made sure to check in on him the next
Speaker 1: couple of plays down in the drive. I mean, had
Speaker 1: those first couple of plays of the game, everything's just
Speaker 1: the adrenalines going.
Speaker 2: So did you check you checked in on him during
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, was down later that drive. I mean obviously he
Speaker 1: went out after that. I was gonna let the let this,
Speaker 1: let the medical staff get their time with them. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna try to interfere during all that. But when
Speaker 1: he came down later down the drive, and made sure
Speaker 1: to check in on him, just to make sure he's
Speaker 1: knows that I wasn't trying to do it blatantly and dirty.
Speaker 4: So I was just making sure.
Speaker 2: Have you talked to him since that at all? About that?
Speaker 1: I saw him at the combine. But that dude come
Speaker 1: on his first pick. He's he's famous. So I gave
Speaker 1: him his his little area, gave him time to just
Speaker 1: be himself, and uh, I mean hopefully later on we
Speaker 1: got to see each other.
Speaker 2: I gotta love it, though all those people said, you
Speaker 2: ran me over, you und me down. You tell that's
Speaker 2: that's great. That is awesome.
Speaker 3: You I didn't even think about that dynamic, the local dynamic,
Speaker 3: because of the way and the level on what you
Speaker 3: played around here.
Speaker 2: That's that's pretty awesome. It's going to be gratifying as well.
Speaker 3: You got to laugh a little bit, don't you, because
Speaker 3: they're all going to be rooting for you here really soon?
Speaker 2: You know that?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, I mean those guys are they
Speaker 1: grew up with me. They are guys that competed with me,
Speaker 1: and they that they were once playing with. I mean,
Speaker 1: we were a very dominant team center girl. We had
Speaker 1: more than just me. We had so many great defensive
Speaker 1: players that went to the next level, so many great
Speaker 1: offensive players, a few guys in the NFL. So I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: just being able to play with those guys and be
Speaker 1: able to play the kids around here. I mean, everybody
Speaker 1: kind of just grew to be better versions of themselves. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, you see so many people from the indie level,
Speaker 1: and it's just why football's growing in Indiana out You
Speaker 1: just see so many players that are going on moving
Speaker 1: on to the next one. I feel like Indiana football
Speaker 1: is just kind of growing in all spects, and that's
Speaker 1: even high school, college and NFL. And that's just what
Speaker 1: we want as a as a state really, not even
Speaker 1: just teams alone, just everybody getting better and kind of
Speaker 1: growing to be one of those kind dominant football places
Speaker 1: that everybody want to watch high school football from the start.
Speaker 3: Well, listen, I've been told, but I know this to
Speaker 3: be true. You have a big fan sitting right here.
Speaker 3: I'm very excited for you, man, I'm very happy for you, obviously,
Speaker 3: proud and Coach Moore is a really good friend of
Speaker 3: mine and he's told me great things.
Speaker 2: I don't even have to tell you this.
Speaker 3: Go out and get them, continue to move forward, but
Speaker 3: hopefully we'll track you down again. But it's always a
Speaker 3: great conversation. We are incredibly happy for what you've accomplished.
Speaker 2: Keep going at it.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, man, I appreciate you. Cooking too is actually
Speaker 1: here out here today, so I just got to talk
Speaker 1: to him a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, telling me talk to JMV today and he'll probably
Speaker 3: cuss me out or something. Yeah, I will see you pal,
Speaker 3: all right, Take care, guys, you got it. Kitt and
Speaker 3: Curry right there, the Eddy Moore Automotive Group hootline.
Speaker 2: You guys are yelling Mendo's Adam and stuff out there.
Speaker 2: What are you doing? The ride with JMV?
Speaker 3: The Rights, the Ritz A story for ending in a
Speaker 3: football comes to conclusion what a football.
Speaker 2: Team that he's three five and one oh seven five.
Speaker 3: The fan that is our friend Don Fisher right there,
Speaker 3: the voice of the Hoosiers it's been a long time
Speaker 3: since Don and I and Susie have been together. Good
Speaker 3: def Leopard re entry ride here from Kaleb.
Speaker 2: Quote.
Speaker 3: We don't run a hype machine up here in the Midwest.
Speaker 3: When we fall short, we don't want and complain. That's
Speaker 3: why we're the best. Kurt Signetti on the Big Ten.
Speaker 2: I love it. I do you want to know why?
Speaker 3: Because anybody like Jackass is like me, can say stuff
Speaker 3: and not back up. Jack Squat, he's backed it up
Speaker 3: so far on the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline. He
Speaker 3: was a part of it a little bit earlier today
Speaker 3: and then sum in Chicago. From the Indianapolis Star, Zach
Speaker 3: Osterman joins us, the Kurt Signetti stuff never truly gets
Speaker 3: old at all for me, because when you have accomplished
Speaker 3: what he has.
Speaker 2: You are allowed.
Speaker 3: It's not like he just talks about, hey, my way
Speaker 3: is the best way, but everything else is just a
Speaker 3: bunch of bull crap. And he's just telling you and
Speaker 3: describing to you what has been real and what has
Speaker 3: been legit, And to me, that's refreshing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think, I mean, it's been an interesting
Speaker 5: evolution to think about these three sort of media days
Speaker 5: appearances that he's had, you know, with the Big Ten,
Speaker 5: the first one, I think everybody just kind of showed
Speaker 5: up wondering what crazy thing he'd say next. That was
Speaker 5: the word he used at his first of me. I
Speaker 5: think he's direct Bob with something like, I know you're
Speaker 5: all waiting for me to get up here and say
Speaker 5: something crazy. Last year there was maybe a I don't know,
Speaker 5: kind of almost.
Speaker 4: A mix of that.
Speaker 5: What you're talking about is there was sort of this
Speaker 5: respect for what he'd done in twenty twenty four. But
Speaker 5: Indiana was also such a polarizing program. If you think
Speaker 5: back to last summer when we talk about the way
Speaker 5: they performed against Ohio State, Notre Dame, when we talked
Speaker 5: about how the SEC had decided to go to war
Speaker 5: against Indiana's scheduling philosophy. Specifically, this time around, it was
Speaker 5: just very much sort of, Hey, he's you know, he's
Speaker 5: the master of this particular universe, and I don't think
Speaker 5: he's ever someone who's going to be comfortable being a statesman.
Speaker 5: I don't think he wants to get up there and
Speaker 5: set agendas and make sweeping statements about sort of the
Speaker 5: future of college football and things like that. But you
Speaker 5: know it, there was nobody sort of trying to do
Speaker 5: anything except sort of feet with Indiana, and obviously by
Speaker 5: extension signet he have accomplished over.
Speaker 4: The last two years. This time around, it.
Speaker 5: Was just a widespread acknowledgement that Indiana is one of
Speaker 5: the big boys in the conference.
Speaker 3: Now Zach Austaman of the Stars in Chicago and the
Speaker 3: Andy Moore Automotive Group potline you mentioned he does not
Speaker 3: want to be a statesman in all this, but has
Speaker 3: he positioned himself with his incredible level of success that
Speaker 3: that's going to be his own a choice here moving forward.
Speaker 5: To a certain extent, Yes, I mean, listen, you know,
Speaker 5: you don't have to have a convert. You don't have
Speaker 5: to give the answer if you don't want to, and
Speaker 5: he'll still have fun sometimes, like when he took what
Speaker 5: felt like a maybe you know, thinly veiled shot at the.
Speaker 4: Sec there at the end of his comments at the
Speaker 4: podium and things like that.
Speaker 5: But you know, in the same breath he got some
Speaker 5: you know, some sort of bigger picture feature of college
Speaker 5: sports questions during his breakout session, and he said what
Speaker 5: he often said, which is that you know, some version
Speaker 5: that basically just that's above my pay grade. Just tell
Speaker 5: me what the rules are, and I'll find a way
Speaker 5: to win, you know, within them or without, you know,
Speaker 5: well abiding by them.
Speaker 4: He's not.
Speaker 5: Yes, he's going to get more of those questions, you know,
Speaker 5: what do you think about the congression, congressional legislation or
Speaker 5: the future of you know, NIL and revenue sharing or whatever.
Speaker 5: And sometimes you know, I think where he does engage
Speaker 5: with that stuff is on kind of a day to
Speaker 5: day level, like if you ask him about why and
Speaker 5: how he handles his roster the way he does. He
Speaker 5: doesn't have a GM. He does a lot of the
Speaker 5: you know, the numbers himself and things like that. But
Speaker 5: he doesn't want to be someone who I think is
Speaker 5: I could not imagine no world where you see Kurt
Speaker 5: Signetty in front of a congressional hearing, for example, like
Speaker 5: his former boss. I just don't think that is part
Speaker 5: of his makeup as a coach, and I don't think
Speaker 5: it's I don't think you'd ever see him in that vein.
Speaker 5: I think he would always just sort of say it
Speaker 5: with you, just kind of tell me what the parameters are,
Speaker 5: and I'll find a way to win.
Speaker 4: That's my job as a bootbulk coach.
Speaker 3: Jen Is it easy to see that he and his
Speaker 3: former boss don't like one another? Or is that because
Speaker 3: they Yeah, they don't like they like one another? And listen,
Speaker 3: have you ever found out the reason why? Is it
Speaker 3: the success right now? Is it's a new era, the
Speaker 3: new landscape of college athletics or is it it's something else?
Speaker 3: Because I'm not necessarily believing that started with signetti, but
Speaker 3: it seems like it did, was saving Is there anything
Speaker 3: more behind that?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know that they I don't know that.
Speaker 5: I'd go so first who they don't like each other?
Speaker 4: I would also, I mean I would say two things.
Speaker 5: Number One, they are very similar personalities and sometimes that
Speaker 5: can lead to you know, to to I would say clashes,
Speaker 5: but friction and things like that. But number two, like
Speaker 5: I dealt with this when Tom Creane was the head
Speaker 5: coach in Indiana and we would always ask about tomism
Speaker 5: and things. I think sometimes coaches get sort of uncomfortable
Speaker 5: being attached to just one coach, if that makes sense
Speaker 5: in sort of their past.
Speaker 2: Was that Likensky kind of stuff?
Speaker 5: They're working well, you know, I think like like Tom
Speaker 5: Creane always wanted you'd ask me about Timizom and I
Speaker 5: know Tom, it's it's always hard to have this conversation
Speaker 5: because I'd say things like, I know Tom had a
Speaker 5: men's respect for Tom, but I think Tom also always
Speaker 5: wanted to point to Ralph Lillard, for example, who was
Speaker 5: the coach who gave his first his first full time job,
Speaker 5: you know. And I think with Kurtzignetti, I don't think
Speaker 5: I mean he's if you ask him about Nick Saban,
Speaker 5: it'll say things like I learn more about building a
Speaker 5: program and managing a program in four years with him
Speaker 5: than I did in twenty five years before that, and
Speaker 5: coaching he still has an immense amount of respect and
Speaker 5: appreciation for everything he learned from Nick Saban.
Speaker 4: But I think Signetti also wants to say.
Speaker 5: Hey, don't forget about my dad, don't forget about Johnny Majors,
Speaker 5: don't forget about Walt Harris. Then it's really easy to
Speaker 5: kind of I think sometimes coaches, when they do have
Speaker 5: someone like that in their history, it's really easy to
Speaker 5: sort of pigeonhold him and say what he's just that
Speaker 5: he only belongs on that guy's coaching tree, right, he
Speaker 5: is just he he's a Nick Saban disciple, and I
Speaker 5: think Signetti is someone who values I know he does
Speaker 5: because I've had these conversations with him. I know others
Speaker 5: have too. He values what he got out of his
Speaker 5: experiences with a number of different coaches, and I don't
Speaker 5: think he's comfortable with the idea that you sort of
Speaker 5: push all those to one side just because he did
Speaker 5: happen to work for one who was just so exceptionally successful.
Speaker 4: It's sort of the same.
Speaker 5: It's the same mentality in a different ways when you
Speaker 5: ask him about twenty twenty five, and he'll be quicked
Speaker 5: in a certain situations to tell you that he doesn't
Speaker 5: think the twenty twenty fourteen gets nearly enough credit for
Speaker 5: just what's happened in Indiana over the last two years.
Speaker 4: It's kind of the same thing. I think he just
Speaker 4: doesn't want the impact of some.
Speaker 5: Of these other coaches he's worked were up to it,
Speaker 5: including his dad, forgotten, just because obviously he also spend
Speaker 5: some time with Nick Saban, which again he will tell
Speaker 5: you over and over again if you ask, was incredibly
Speaker 5: important to his development as a coach.
Speaker 3: It is a weird dynamic to me that you get
Speaker 3: some coaches that seem to be incredibly proud about those
Speaker 3: from their particular coaching tree that move on to have
Speaker 3: similar success or even maybe greater success than they do.
Speaker 3: And then there are some that don't feel that it's
Speaker 3: so gratifying to have that happen, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Yeah, And again I think if there's and I don't
Speaker 5: obviously I don't know staying as well as that kind
Speaker 5: of got Signetti over the.
Speaker 4: Last couple of years.
Speaker 5: But I think there's also a little bit, if you
Speaker 5: want to talk about the way both of those guys
Speaker 5: are wired, I think there's maybe a little bit of
Speaker 5: an element of it. It's not like you have animosity
Speaker 5: towards the guy once he leaves, or if you don't
Speaker 5: you're not happy for his success or whatever. But you're
Speaker 5: just sort of wired to always be worried about what's next.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: That's been so much of Kurt Signetti this off season
Speaker 5: that you can imagine has been not thinking about last season.
Speaker 5: Last season is great, that team deserves a kind of credit.
Speaker 5: It was a great run we had all this, but
Speaker 5: but I'm worried about twenty twenty six. I'm worried about
Speaker 5: getting all the pieces together on this roster. And I
Speaker 5: think some coaches, like when an assistant leaves or something
Speaker 5: like that, there is just sort of all right, well
Speaker 5: then we just you know, who's the next guy in
Speaker 5: that job. We just move on. We've got to keep
Speaker 5: moving on. I'm not going to get I'm up on
Speaker 5: the past in any way. And I think that's listen.
Speaker 5: I think that is a big part of what has
Speaker 5: made Kurt Signetti so successful in his career is his
Speaker 5: ability to just constantly be shifting its focus to the
Speaker 5: next calf, the next challenge, the thing right in front
Speaker 5: of them, never getting hung up on anything that doesn't
Speaker 5: you know, anything that doesn't sort of somehow affect winning
Speaker 5: the next whatever, game, practice, whatever it is. But I
Speaker 5: think sometimes that can also lead to what you're talking about,
Speaker 5: which is maybe it feeling like you don't have that
Speaker 5: sentimentality in a way because you are just constantly thinking,
Speaker 5: all right, this guy's gone, I'm going to replace him
Speaker 5: with this guy, and we're going to move forward, and
Speaker 5: this is the this is the team now, this is
Speaker 5: the staff now. I'm not thinking about what things were before.
Speaker 5: I'm only worried about.
Speaker 3: For s NeXT's Zach Austramer of Chicago or in Chicago
Speaker 3: or the Indianapolis Star covering the Big Ten meeting Skirt
Speaker 3: Signetti a little bit earlier today, the defending national champion
Speaker 3: Indiana Hoosier's head coach and Zach's on the Andy Moral
Speaker 3: at monif group plotline.
Speaker 2: How do you view.
Speaker 3: Right now Josh Hoover as the next guy under center
Speaker 3: in Bloomington compared to not just Mendoza in this case,
Speaker 3: but Rourke as well, the third quarterback in the Signetti
Speaker 3: Ayu era.
Speaker 2: How do you view in comparison with those three?
Speaker 4: I mean, what's interesting about Josh Hoover?
Speaker 5: And we all look at it and we say, how
Speaker 5: can you possibly top a k what Fernana Mendoza did
Speaker 5: last year, which, in fairness, I think you know, we
Speaker 5: all looked at Fani med Doza year ago and we
Speaker 5: sort of said, hey, there's some pretty pretty big shoots
Speaker 5: to fill here. Curs Whork came in, turned out he
Speaker 5: was playing on a torn acl he was still second
Speaker 5: team All Big Ten, lead Indiana to eleven wins their
Speaker 5: first ten and oh start ever got into the playoff.
Speaker 5: How do you follow that up? We could say the
Speaker 5: same thing even, you know, to an even greater degree
Speaker 5: with Fanana men Doza, but you kind of forget that
Speaker 5: Josh Hoover is more credentialed as a quarterback than either
Speaker 5: of those other guys were when they joined Curtsey. I mean,
Speaker 5: he's the most proven quarterback Kurt Signetti has ever taken
Speaker 5: out of the transfer Portal's he's you know, he's got
Speaker 5: the Big twelve experience, which means powerful experience. He's the
Speaker 5: nation of leading returning passer. He's been, you know, a
Speaker 5: starter for a bowl team for three straight years. I
Speaker 5: think TCU won nine games each of the last two years.
Speaker 5: They may not have gone to a Bowl his first
Speaker 5: year as a starter, I can't quite remember. But the
Speaker 5: point is, in some respects, Hoover has the least to
Speaker 5: prove of those three at this level. Now, he still
Speaker 5: things to prove, and he still has things to improve on.
Speaker 5: One of the talking points, of course, of the offseason
Speaker 5: was this this sort of very mild war of words
Speaker 5: between Signetti and the Sunny Dike's over you know, sort
Speaker 5: of Hoover's turnover problems at TCU, and you know, Dyke's
Speaker 5: just kind of pointing out things that, in fairness were
Speaker 5: just statistic goal fact and Signetti acknowledging he's got to
Speaker 5: get better, but also he's probably going to have more
Speaker 5: tools and support in Indiana. Better run game, better offensive line,
Speaker 5: et cetera, better defense. But it is interesting just because
Speaker 5: we do look at and I'm believe me, I'm not
Speaker 5: fare to stand here and say that Josh Hoover is
Speaker 5: going to somehow outperform.
Speaker 4: For Nana Mendoza.
Speaker 5: But it is interesting that we all kind of assume
Speaker 5: that there probably has to be some kind of step
Speaker 5: back just because of how much Fernana Mendoza accomplished a
Speaker 5: year ago. When you remember that Josh Hoover has more
Speaker 5: has a lengthier resume up to this point in his
Speaker 5: career than either Mendoza or Curtis wark did. I think
Speaker 5: there's obviously going to be things that he does and
Speaker 5: in Indiana does with him that are going to be different.
Speaker 5: I don't know that we have a great feel for
Speaker 5: what those are, because quite frankly, he was playing behind
Speaker 5: a pretty passport offensive line in the spring game, and
Speaker 5: so I don't think we got a very good look
Speaker 5: at sort of Josh Hoover is Indiana's starting quarterback.
Speaker 4: But I just think that.
Speaker 5: That dynamic is going to be fascinating to follow because
Speaker 5: it does feel like he's trying to fill such big shoes.
Speaker 5: And yet, if you were talking to someone about sort
Speaker 5: of each of these quarterbacks in isolation before they took
Speaker 5: a snap, Indiana Josh Hoover would have the most impressive
Speaker 5: resume of the three.
Speaker 3: If your name is Turbo and you play running back,
Speaker 3: you have to be really good. I've had a really
Speaker 3: good combination of running backs, certainly last year.
Speaker 2: How's this guy got to compare in your estimation?
Speaker 5: I think you're still going to see. I mean, first
Speaker 5: of all, this fact clearly likes him a lot. And
Speaker 5: again you want to talk about I know it's coming
Speaker 5: from Boston College, but that is still powerful experience, you know,
Speaker 5: been very productive over the last two years, particularly last season.
Speaker 5: If you look at him just physically, both on film
Speaker 5: and up close, he profiles very similarly to what Indiana
Speaker 5: has had it running back the last two years. A
Speaker 5: little bit smaller, very strong, explosive, you know, and Indiana's
Speaker 5: run game was it was kind of interesting. I don't
Speaker 5: know if we talked about this enough last season, that
Speaker 5: twenty twenty four was very much kind of like the
Speaker 5: run game that always stayed on schedule, always fell forward,
Speaker 5: always had a healthy yards per carry average, a little
Speaker 5: bit more explosive last season of at times with Kaylon
Speaker 5: black and and Roman Hamby, and I think Richard can
Speaker 5: be kind of fill that mold a little bit too.
Speaker 5: But I still think you will also see, you know,
Speaker 5: something familiar to what we've seen over the last two
Speaker 5: years in Indiana, which is two to three running backs.
Speaker 5: You know, maybe eventually a top two emerging between Richard,
Speaker 5: Kobe Martin, and Lee Baby Junior who's expected to be
Speaker 5: full go by fall camp after the knee injury last year,
Speaker 5: and maybe like those three at the beginning, two really
Speaker 5: kind of asserting themselves as kind.
Speaker 4: Of a one A and one B. By mid season.
Speaker 5: The qualities are going to be of the room will
Speaker 5: be reflected by the qualities of the players, but I
Speaker 5: think the dynamics can be similar where you do see
Speaker 5: maybe two of those guys emerge as kind of like
Speaker 5: the co number ones.
Speaker 4: At that position.
Speaker 2: What do you expect production wise from Nick Marsh?
Speaker 5: I mean, I am I will say this right now.
Speaker 5: I am a card carrying member of the Nick Marsh
Speaker 5: fan club, and I go back to when Indiana played
Speaker 5: at Michigan State in twenty twenty four, that was obviously,
Speaker 5: you know, it seems like a million years ago now,
Speaker 5: but that was the first time that season Indiana had
Speaker 5: trailed in a game, and Nick Marsh was basically the
Speaker 5: reason why. I mean, Aidan Childs started that game very well.
Speaker 5: But you just saw all of the tools that you
Speaker 5: want in an elite boundary receiver. For me, the you know,
Speaker 5: the footwork, the explosiveness, the hands, the precision on you know,
Speaker 5: sort of the details of routes. You know when to break,
Speaker 5: when to cut, how to read average. And that was
Speaker 5: Nick Marsh as a true freshman. And he was well
Speaker 5: regarded as a as a high school recruit, so it
Speaker 5: wasn't a shock that he was good as a freshman.
Speaker 5: But that was him as a true freshman on a
Speaker 5: team that obviously was offensively challenged. You could say the
Speaker 5: same thing last year. I mean, I remember seeing him
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty four and then again in twenty twenty five,
Speaker 5: and having seen enough of Elijah Surat at Indiana, I
Speaker 5: thought there is a very similar profile at receivers or
Speaker 5: that if you could put him in Indiana's offense, I
Speaker 5: think we'd have a lot of success. Now you're going
Speaker 5: to be playing him opposite presumably Charlie Becker. I think
Speaker 5: it's gonna be one of the most explosive receivers in
Speaker 5: the conference, if not the country this season. I mean,
Speaker 5: for my money, Ohio State got the best receiver I
Speaker 5: think in the BEG ten this year in Jeremi Smith.
Speaker 5: I don't think that's a controversial statement, but I would
Speaker 5: not be at all surprised if Indiana has the best
Speaker 5: receiver room in the league. And Nick marsh is a
Speaker 5: huge piece of that.
Speaker 3: Hey, Zach, before I'll let you go here, I think
Speaker 3: one of the toughest positions to try to reset or
Speaker 3: refill is that of tight end production wise, just value
Speaker 3: wise from what we witnessed a year ago. What's your
Speaker 3: thoughts on that position and how well equipped they're going
Speaker 3: to be to do that.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's comfortably the most fascinating one to kind
Speaker 5: of watch through, not just the preseason, that the early season.
Speaker 4: You know, if you look at the last two.
Speaker 5: Years, Indiana has never not had at the top with
Speaker 5: that depth chart for fifth and sixth year players, you know,
Speaker 5: I mean they even had James Bomba in his sixth
Speaker 5: year last year. They have always been experienced there and
Speaker 5: it's a position that's always been important. In twenty four,
Speaker 5: it was important to kind of that perimeter screen game
Speaker 5: that they ran that kind of took some of the
Speaker 5: pressure off Curtis Rourke. In twenty five, we know just
Speaker 5: kind of how important Riley Noatkowski turned out to be.
Speaker 5: But what's interesting to me, and Kurzignetti has acknowledged he
Speaker 5: got asked the question again today. He's been asked a
Speaker 5: number of times in the offseason. He acknowledged, Listen, we're
Speaker 5: really young there, we're not proven. Even some of the
Speaker 5: guys that we liked, like Trevor Gibbs or like brought Shot,
Speaker 5: the Miami tight end who's originally from Leo. You know,
Speaker 5: they had to take time out in the spring because
Speaker 5: they had injuries that required, you know, surgeries and things
Speaker 5: like that. He doesn't shy away from the fact that
Speaker 5: that is a young group. If they're a young group
Speaker 5: at a position where Indiana has stayed intentionally old in
Speaker 5: each of Signette's first two seasons. But I also think
Speaker 5: it's interesting, you know, a year ago, we know what
Speaker 5: Riley Nowakowski kind of becomes for Indiana. But when Indiana
Speaker 5: took Riley Nowakowski out of the portal, you wouldn't have
Speaker 5: looked at that and said, boy, that was a coup.
Speaker 5: He was an experienced sort of block first tight end
Speaker 5: from Wisconsin. It made sense to kind of sort of
Speaker 5: fit him into that Zach Horton type role from twenty
Speaker 5: twenty four. It isn't until we see them on the
Speaker 5: field that we realize how important Nokowski is going to
Speaker 5: become for that team in twenty five. Indiana didn't target
Speaker 5: a player like that in the portal. They didn't go,
Speaker 5: they did not appear to go searching for somebody like
Speaker 5: that the UI. Even before you saw them in the offense,
Speaker 5: you thought, hey, that's just a safe pair of hands.
Speaker 4: Essentially the position like that.
Speaker 5: So they know they're young, but they seem relatively comfortable
Speaker 5: with what they have. It's going to be fascinating to
Speaker 5: see how that position develops, because there's somewhere they've been
Speaker 5: comfortable letting some youth be served in these first couple
Speaker 5: of years, tight end not one. They didn't really leave
Speaker 5: themselves a choice there, and I think they did it
Speaker 5: with at least to some extent intentionally so I'm curious
Speaker 5: to see what it looks like.
Speaker 3: You look at some of the big moments of last
Speaker 3: year across the board, nola Kowski had his fingerprints on
Speaker 3: so many of those.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent. I mean, I could take you back,
Speaker 4: you could.
Speaker 5: I don't know who would have been tracking these kinds
Speaker 5: of predictions, But well before the end of the season,
Speaker 5: I would tell people who asked, I think he's going
Speaker 5: to make more money in the NFL than people realize,
Speaker 5: because there's just there's a precision, there is a you know,
Speaker 5: there was a detail and a toughness to the way
Speaker 5: he blocked. He does stuff. Listen, we could talk about
Speaker 5: the big catches, yes, in State Drive and some others.
Speaker 5: He has a couple of big moments in the playoff.
Speaker 5: He has, of course the touchdown run against Miami. But
Speaker 5: he is the sort of player that does the little things,
Speaker 5: whether it's in blocking, whether it's in special teams, whatever
Speaker 5: it is that keep a player on NFL rosters a
Speaker 5: lot longer, and you look around and you say, well,
Speaker 5: I didn't realize.
Speaker 4: He's been in the league eight years. Like that kind
Speaker 4: of thing.
Speaker 5: He is going to be I think anyway, and I
Speaker 5: know he's an older pro already, but I think he
Speaker 5: is someone that that could genuinely enjoy a much more
Speaker 5: lucrative and extensive NFL career than maybe people appreciate it,
Speaker 5: because he is just such a detailed player in addition
Speaker 5: to and you said, having some really big moments in
Speaker 5: the passing games.
Speaker 4: To see them we're on.
Speaker 3: I saw this yesterday, Tristan Abram. Did he get in
Speaker 3: the transfer portal? I know he's deep in the depth
Speaker 3: show defensively speaking, Did he go in the transfer portal
Speaker 3: as I read yesterday.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was one of the higher ranked linemen in
Speaker 5: the first full signing class, didn't play last year.
Speaker 4: He's in the portal. Obviously.
Speaker 5: That's sort of like a that's at least a little
Speaker 5: bit sort of, you know, a formality right now because
Speaker 5: the portal wind is not going to be open until
Speaker 5: December and all that. But you know, that's I think
Speaker 5: you just kind of have to make peace with the
Speaker 5: reality that some guys aren't going to stick around to
Speaker 5: develop as long as you might hope you can get them.
Speaker 3: Form Hey, well done, man, thank you very much for
Speaker 3: the checkup. That is good stuff, as always. Zach austinan
Speaker 3: of the Star in Chicago with the Media Day with
Speaker 3: the Big tim we'll get more in depth on all
Speaker 3: the Big ten. But that's good stuff today, Zach. I
Speaker 3: appreciate you, pal, absolutely.
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me as always.
Speaker 2: On the Andy Moore Auto Moni Group Potline.
Speaker 3: First two days up at Droplight that is Graham Park
Speaker 3: in Westfield, and Mike Chapel of CBS four and Fox
Speaker 3: fifty nine joins us to talk about that, hey, before
Speaker 3: I get into it. So we love giving back to
Speaker 3: you because you give us so much content. We appreciate
Speaker 3: that my friend Steve Girardi got a hold of me
Speaker 3: and wanted to know if you'd be interested in hitting
Speaker 3: up one of these fantastic shows coming up in the
Speaker 3: next couple of fridays up at Connor Prairie in Symphony
Speaker 3: on the Prairie, And the first one is August the seventh,
Speaker 3: which is a week from tomorrow. That is the Fab four.
Speaker 3: It's a Beatles tribute which my daughter Laney is a
Speaker 3: big Beatles fan. She's going to attend. And the second
Speaker 3: is August the fourteenth, on a Friday, Hollywood Nights, which
Speaker 3: is a Bob Seeger tribute band, all at Connor Prairie
Speaker 3: an off awesome experience.
Speaker 2: Would you like to go to either?
Speaker 6: I've been there. I saw the Beatles several years ago.
Speaker 6: It's an unbelievable show. I'm in Canton that day, so
Speaker 6: that won't work. The Hall of Fames next weekend with
Speaker 6: Vin Terry, I'd be interested. In the fourteenth with Bob Seger.
Speaker 6: I saw him a game Bridge guys who's been four
Speaker 6: or five years ago, and it was outstanding. So sure,
Speaker 6: And I think the Colts might be off that day.
Speaker 6: I'm not sure, but let me I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3: I'll get in touch with Steve and we'll set this
Speaker 3: up and make sure that you get up there on
Speaker 3: the fourteenth.
Speaker 6: You know how to find me, so just well, yes,
Speaker 6: Jilin care, that's cool.
Speaker 2: I got your back.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think actually it wasn't you and may have been.
Speaker 3: And this is a different venue. I think Lady saw
Speaker 3: the Fab four was it last year? She sat next
Speaker 3: to Bill Benner in the front row. I think at
Speaker 3: the State Staate.
Speaker 6: What I saw was called the Magical Mystery Tour or
Speaker 6: something right, and it was. I mean, these are obviously
Speaker 6: actors and all this, but gosh darn, they were good
Speaker 6: and I'm you know, I'm a Beatles guy. When the
Speaker 6: cults were in or when the culture in London in
Speaker 6: sixteen I think it was or seventeen the years run.
Speaker 6: Together with the wife, we went to Abbey Road and
Speaker 6: I've got a picture of me crossing the road like
Speaker 6: like the Abbey Road album. So I'm a nerd.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, my daughter saw McCartney last October and de Moine
Speaker 3: I actually.
Speaker 2: Had Hey.
Speaker 3: She was staying in the same hotel. She's sixteen, staying
Speaker 3: in the same hotel where he was, and was down
Speaker 3: getting orange juice and he walked right by and waved
Speaker 3: at her, and she has it on video, so that
Speaker 3: was pretty cool.
Speaker 6: I would have had to say, you know, I'm sorry
Speaker 6: to make a fool of myself, but uh, this is
Speaker 6: the only this is the only chance I'll get to
Speaker 6: make a fool of myself, so let's do it.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 2: It was really cool.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'll make sure you're set up for that
Speaker 3: coming up on the fourteenth right there. I'm curious about
Speaker 3: this as well. We had a conversation yesterday Kevin Bowen
Speaker 3: and I about this, and the Colts have a lot
Speaker 3: of money to spend if they wanted to so in
Speaker 3: terms of Chris Ballard being in the final Final without
Speaker 3: results season in leading this Colt's organizationally speaking, it doesn't
Speaker 3: feel like everything considering the holes they have in this
Speaker 3: roster right now that they're doing it, it seems like
Speaker 3: it's more cost efficient. And for the life of me,
Speaker 3: I don't really understand. Why is it about the talent
Speaker 3: that is available out there not worthy of it is
Speaker 3: about the money. Why have they not gone more in
Speaker 3: in certain situations like wide receiver for example, which you
Speaker 3: know they're going to have to Why are they hesitant
Speaker 3: about doing something like that right now? Is it the
Speaker 3: veteran player, the guys that they want to bring in
Speaker 3: or they might have interest in. What would be the
Speaker 3: reason behind that.
Speaker 6: I can't believe that they sit in meetings and Reggie
Speaker 6: Wayne says, hey, we're good, We're good, and I think
Speaker 6: I really do think after talking to Ballard the other day,
Speaker 6: they're very open to a receiver. I'm not talking to
Speaker 6: Leon Clifford that they signed the rookie, but I really
Speaker 6: believe in the next two weeks they sign a guy.
Speaker 6: The names that jump out or Keenan Allen, Deebo, Samuel
Speaker 6: Stefan Diggs, Keenan Allen is just it makes so much sense.
Speaker 6: He's on the wrong side of thirty. He had eighty
Speaker 6: catches last year for the Chargers. He didn't Stiken. We're
Speaker 6: together for seven years or six seven years with the Chargers,
Speaker 6: and I think Shane would drive to wherever he's from
Speaker 6: and driving back here. I think part of it is
Speaker 6: that with the with these veteran guys, they want to
Speaker 6: wait till the second or third week of training camp
Speaker 6: so they can avoid this.
Speaker 4: Maybe they want more money.
Speaker 6: I just don't see a veteran free agent getting much
Speaker 6: more than the three four five million that these guys.
Speaker 6: I'm not talking about Crystal Lave with what the lottery
Speaker 6: he just hit. But so I think it's a timing.
Speaker 6: I will be absolutely shocked if they don't bring in
Speaker 6: one of those three, not bring in sign one of
Speaker 6: those three guys. This is I mean again, you say
Speaker 6: it makes so much sense.
Speaker 2: It does.
Speaker 6: When the owner says the sense of urgency has never
Speaker 6: been higher, then do whatever it takes. They've got the
Speaker 6: cap space, which normally that's not an issue. You can
Speaker 6: create cat space, it's having the money to do it.
Speaker 6: And I can't believe for a minute they don't have
Speaker 6: five or six million dollars the funnel towards one of
Speaker 6: those guys. And again they I think they, I really
Speaker 6: think from talking to Jonathan Taylor, they're trying to get
Speaker 6: something done with him. And that's a little different. That's
Speaker 6: a lot different because that could mean a longer, you know,
Speaker 6: two three year contract, which is pushing money into the
Speaker 6: future that you don't know what the future is going
Speaker 6: to be. I'm unless I'm missing something. I've been kind
Speaker 6: of vocal about give Taylor something more for this year,
Speaker 6: like the Cardinals did with Jacobe Prissett. Give him five
Speaker 6: or six million dollars guaranteed, and then worry about next year.
Speaker 6: Next year you can franchise tag him. I think they
Speaker 6: need to take care of Taylor because all he is
Speaker 6: is their offense. I mean, he's the engine to what
Speaker 6: they do. But yeah, they you can't go into a
Speaker 6: season with so much playoffs or else type things on
Speaker 6: the line and not take care of a couple of
Speaker 6: obvious deficiencies. In the top one is wide receiver.
Speaker 3: Well and evidently within the last hour and I'm assuming
Speaker 3: this is a camp body wide receiver, Liam Clifford, Penn
Speaker 3: State undrafted wide receiver brought in.
Speaker 2: I saw her.
Speaker 3: Kevin Bowen had the Colts worked out veteran wide receiver
Speaker 3: Chase Claypool, And I don't think that dude's even played
Speaker 3: since twenty twenty four or something.
Speaker 6: Right, That's not the kind of guy I'm talking about.
Speaker 6: I'm talking about a guy and against Samuel.
Speaker 2: You're talking about Keenan Allen, somebody like that is what
Speaker 2: what you're Deebo.
Speaker 6: Samuel had a good year, was it fifty or sixty
Speaker 6: kits for Washington. Those are the guys I'm talking about.
Speaker 6: And if nothing else, if the fact that they've gone
Speaker 6: the first two practices and probably the first couple of
Speaker 6: weeks without Alec Pierce. He looks really good catching the
Speaker 6: ball from Reggie Waying on the sideline. But that's if
Speaker 6: that doesn't magnify what is missing at the position. It's
Speaker 6: Josh Downs and Quand Treadwell and and uh Nick Westbrook,
Speaker 6: a Keene and those guys have had moments. But if
Speaker 6: you're gonna give your quarterback as much chance as pob
Speaker 6: also to succeed, one it's Jonathan Taylor in the backfield,
Speaker 6: and two it's receivers, it's targets. And what I hope
Speaker 6: they don't get enamored with is, you know, we got
Speaker 6: Tyler Warren and he's as good as it gets at
Speaker 6: moving around and all this, and he is, but he's
Speaker 6: still a tight end. And I would rather have him
Speaker 6: as a tight end along with three quality receivers as
Speaker 6: opposed to two receivers and Tyler Warren. You get different
Speaker 6: defensive matchups. So again, if we're having I tell you,
Speaker 6: if we're having this discussion in three weeks and there's
Speaker 6: still no receiver in here, you and I can just
Speaker 6: kind of go ballistic. Okay, Mike.
Speaker 3: They're handling wide receiver like they're comfortable with it, which
Speaker 3: is weird. And I'll add, as you mentioned earlier, Jonathan
Speaker 3: Taylor's handling dialogue with the local media as if he's
Speaker 3: comfortable in his situation, which I would agree with, you
Speaker 3: lead you to believe that something is in the works, right,
Speaker 3: And that's why I say part.
Speaker 6: Of the thing with with any veteran player is they,
Speaker 6: like I said Kenny Moore, maybe they would prefer to
Speaker 6: wait maybe for an injury to maximize their their their
Speaker 6: their demand. But a lot of times these guys they
Speaker 6: sign two weeks in the camp or whatever. And I
Speaker 6: think a guy like like Keenan Allen wouldn't need a
Speaker 6: ton of time to get, you know, in sync with
Speaker 6: Shane Stiken in the office now. He would need time,
Speaker 6: certainly with a quarterback, and that that does matter, you know.
Speaker 6: I go back to all the reps between Peyton and
Speaker 6: Marvin and Reggie, and that matters where they can look
Speaker 6: at each other and know what they're doing. So I
Speaker 6: will be beyond shocked if if in the next couple
Speaker 6: of weeks, and certainly for opening day, one of the
Speaker 6: top three receivers is he's got he's got to be
Speaker 6: coming in some form. And it's not the names you've mentioned.
Speaker 6: It's certainly not the guy you just the cliff uh
Speaker 6: Liam Clifford.
Speaker 2: Chasepool what Yeah, that's.
Speaker 6: You know, this offense doesn't need to bring in a
Speaker 6: receiver who's trying to restart something and find his career again.
Speaker 6: It's to bring in a guy a one year bandage
Speaker 6: to get you fifty or sixty catches. And because minus that,
Speaker 6: I just don't see, Because when you don't have that
Speaker 6: third receiver, all of a sudden, you're pushing everybody up
Speaker 6: all of a sudden the nation. Dolan is a three
Speaker 6: and he's never had more than twenty two targets in
Speaker 6: a season because you've had guys in front of him.
Speaker 6: And then if Tyler Warren is sort of your third
Speaker 6: receiver sort of, then you push on the other tight
Speaker 6: ends into different roles so that hopefully that they've got
Speaker 6: something that they're trying to get done, that they'll get
Speaker 6: done with a receiver. This receiver group, with all due
Speaker 6: respects to all of them, it's not good enough for
Speaker 6: what they need to do this year.
Speaker 3: To Mike Chapel of CBS four and Fox fifty nine,
Speaker 3: he's on the Andy Moore Automatic Group podline two days.
Speaker 3: That's not a lot as far as evaluation is concerned.
Speaker 3: Have you learned anything in the past two practices you've
Speaker 3: seen up in Westfield.
Speaker 6: I've learned that Mooney, Mooney Ward and soft Gardener are
Speaker 6: pretty damn good. Uh healthy. If thanks they're healthy, it'll
Speaker 6: be the best tandem the Colts have had going back
Speaker 6: to Baltimore. I don't know, I don't I'm not school
Speaker 6: on you know, the Bobby Boyds and all those guys,
Speaker 6: But there were a couple of plays on the opening
Speaker 6: day where Soft makes a play and then on one
Speaker 6: side and Mooney on the other, and you're thinking, theah,
Speaker 6: get used to folks, that's what they need. They played
Speaker 6: like ninety snaps together last year because of injuries and
Speaker 6: all that. And I tell you what's really cool is
Speaker 6: when we get a chance to talk to these guys.
Speaker 6: We talked to Mooney today and the when he lets
Speaker 6: you inside what he's been through. He you know, he's
Speaker 6: talking to us and he's got his his son, Mooney
Speaker 6: Junior in his arm, and he just pours out what
Speaker 6: he's been through, losing his daughter, losing the daughter and
Speaker 6: all that, and it took him a couple of years.
Speaker 6: I've been there. It takes a while to get over
Speaker 6: the loss of a child. And when you have a
Speaker 6: player that open, you know, he said, you know it,
Speaker 6: ninety five percent sure I was going to retire, and
Speaker 6: you think seriously, and then he goes into this and
Speaker 6: he doesn't just give you a toss away answer. He
Speaker 6: goes into it and how why he thought that and
Speaker 6: how he came out of it, and so again you really,
Speaker 6: you really hope guys like this can come through. It
Speaker 6: can stay healthy. He had those three concussions and the
Speaker 6: one that almost ended his career when he ran into
Speaker 6: Drew Ogletree was complete, freak complete, but it knocked him out.
Speaker 6: He had symptoms for a long time. So I, uh, again,
Speaker 6: we're not cheerleaders and a lot, but you really pull
Speaker 6: for guys like that, uh, Sauce Gardner when you he's
Speaker 6: just he looks different from the corners they've got here.
Speaker 6: He's long and and just a quo and he's got
Speaker 6: something to prove too. He was first team All pros
Speaker 6: first two years and then not quite so much the
Speaker 6: last two years, and of course last year was sort
Speaker 6: of a last year. So I hope you know, knock
Speaker 6: on wood, they've had trouble keeping corners healthy. Uh. If
Speaker 6: these guys and then you throw Justin Wally in there
Speaker 6: and Cam bind him is as good as safety as
Speaker 6: there is. And they've got depth at safety with Halsey
Speaker 6: and Hunter Waller. This can be a pretty darn good secondary,
Speaker 6: which will help a pass rush that I'm still not
Speaker 6: sure how good it might be.
Speaker 3: Are you concerned about staying here? I guess you always
Speaker 3: are because you cover the colts like we all do here.
Speaker 3: But are you concerned about both those corners in sauce
Speaker 3: and Chevert's ward staying healthy more than that of Daniel Jones?
Speaker 2: What is Daniel Jones?
Speaker 3: Because he's not had a history of staying healthy either.
Speaker 2: Where are you with that?
Speaker 3: Even though the signs are all pointing to positive right
Speaker 3: now in his start coming off of that injury and
Speaker 3: the surgery and the rehab. But where are you with
Speaker 3: him staying healthy the entirety of the year.
Speaker 6: You don't expect that because it's happening like once in
Speaker 6: his career and again that year he took the Giants
Speaker 6: of the playoffs and they won a playoff game. So
Speaker 6: when he again, when he's surrounded by the people he's
Speaker 6: got and it's up, it's incumbent on him to stay healthy.
Speaker 6: It's not like he's reckless. You know, he didn't get
Speaker 6: hurt on a reckless play again because just a you
Speaker 6: plan for foot and the achilles blows up. But no,
Speaker 6: You've got one thing that Chris Ballard mentioned was he
Speaker 6: feels better about this as good about this quarterback group.
Speaker 6: He has it a long time, which you know, let's
Speaker 6: let's be honest, the quarterback group over over the course
Speaker 6: of the last several years hasn't been that great. He
Speaker 6: also says his intention for right now is to keep
Speaker 6: all three quarterbacks, which is something to change. But you know,
Speaker 6: we've seen Richardson and Leonard kind of rotate behind Jones
Speaker 6: that that'll shake you out. In the preseason games. Somebody
Speaker 6: asks Jones if if he expects to play, Steven holderimight
Speaker 6: ask him to expect to play in the preseason games
Speaker 6: or what would he have to do to lobby for it.
Speaker 6: And I'm telling you you got as much chance of
Speaker 6: playing in a preseason game as Jones does. I will
Speaker 6: be stunned if he plays. He'll get plenty of good
Speaker 6: work in those joint practices with the Patriots and the Falcons,
Speaker 6: but they don't want to take a chance on him
Speaker 6: being out there and doing his job and something breaks
Speaker 6: down and all of a sudden, somebody comes off the
Speaker 6: edge trying to prove something and blows him up or whatever.
Speaker 6: So I think the first time we see him on
Speaker 6: the field playing a game is in the opener. But
Speaker 6: that's going to give Richardson and Leonard plenty of reps
Speaker 6: to sort that out. Maybe Richardson proved that he's kind
Speaker 6: of got his act together and maybe would you know,
Speaker 6: stir up a trade interest more. But if a team
Speaker 6: had wanted Richardson in the trade, I just think they
Speaker 6: would have done it by now. And the fact that
Speaker 6: he's going to be paid the four million dollar roster
Speaker 6: bonus in the next few days by the Colts. If
Speaker 6: you really wanted Richardson, I just think you would have
Speaker 6: done it by now. So they'll probably carry these three
Speaker 6: into the season, and they'll probably need at least two
Speaker 6: of them.
Speaker 2: Who would they go to first?
Speaker 6: I don't know, if I tell you, I'm convinced that
Speaker 6: if they had Richardson healthy Richardson last year, then in
Speaker 6: the playoffs he would have found a way to win
Speaker 6: a couple of games.
Speaker 3: I think, if you well, you know that going to happen. Listen, Yeah,
Speaker 3: we pulled the Colts, It's going to happen.
Speaker 6: I just think if Richardson's on the roster, he needs
Speaker 6: to be your backup. If not, what's he doing here?
Speaker 6: I realize he's he would impede the progress at Leonard,
Speaker 6: But right now this team's in win now mode, and
Speaker 6: I just think for all of it's it's crazy. I've
Speaker 6: been on record a saying, I just I think they're
Speaker 6: better off parton ways, just for both sides. I went
Speaker 6: back and look, he's thrown like three hundred and fifty
Speaker 6: passes in three years. Forty nine quarterbacks have thrown that
Speaker 6: over three these last three years. He's number forty nine
Speaker 6: with a fifty percent completion percentage. Number forty eight is
Speaker 6: Jameis Winston at like fifty nine percent. So that's how
Speaker 6: that's the gap from efficiency. But then he gives you
Speaker 6: so much possibility on explosive plays and creating things. So
Speaker 6: I think if push comes to shove, Richardson is a
Speaker 6: guy that will be and probably needs to be the
Speaker 6: backup guy. Although the thing is he's totally different from
Speaker 6: what from what Jones is, so all of a sudden,
Speaker 6: Shane's having to restructure the offense, whereas you do go
Speaker 6: with Leonard, you don't have to. It's not an easy decision.
Speaker 6: But if you're going to have Richardson here, make him
Speaker 6: the number two and have him ready to play.
Speaker 2: I had Kayden Curry on a little bit earlier today.
Speaker 3: I like Caden Curry a great deal, and obviously he's
Speaker 3: from CG like that too. Do you have any expectations
Speaker 3: at all or is it going to be representative of
Speaker 3: a six round selection? What would you I guess at
Speaker 3: the lowest of levels, what would you expect, and maybe
Speaker 3: even elevating that at higher levels, what you would expect
Speaker 3: special teams?
Speaker 6: Make an impact there and then and then you'll get
Speaker 6: reps out of know, it's hard to put a number
Speaker 6: on it. Ten reps of games sounds kind of high,
Speaker 6: I don't know, but make an impact, make a couple
Speaker 6: of plays, and then you know, and that's how you
Speaker 6: earn instead of ten reps, fifteen reps or twenty reps.
Speaker 6: And they need to find a pass rush beyond a
Speaker 6: lot too, and maybe ardin Key and I don't know
Speaker 6: right now who that is. You know that they've got
Speaker 6: to get buck to forth Buckner back. They can't play
Speaker 6: defense very well without him. But there'll be chances, but
Speaker 6: this will may maybe it'll be a little bit like
Speaker 6: Robert Mathis when he came in as was he a
Speaker 6: fifth rounder and the first year he really was a
Speaker 6: special teams guy, and then he then he turned into
Speaker 6: I think there were a lot more. I'm not saying
Speaker 6: Curry is going to be that at all, but I
Speaker 6: think it'll be special teams and then hit and miss
Speaker 6: with with with some snaps here and there. But if
Speaker 6: you can get to the quarterback, they will find a
Speaker 6: way to get you on the field. I can still
Speaker 6: remember with mathis they they thought about making a linebacker
Speaker 6: to get him on the field more, and then he said, no,
Speaker 6: he's a pass rusher. So if you can get to
Speaker 6: the quarterback, they'll find a way to get you reps
Speaker 6: in a game.
Speaker 2: All right, Schrader a groupie? Who you got?
Speaker 6: I'm going with Groopie, I guess because he's.
Speaker 2: Because I'm a groupie of Groupie.
Speaker 6: Well again, I would side with the guy not coming
Speaker 6: back from a series knee injury to my kicking leg.
Speaker 6: Was his kicky lingers play whichever? Uh so and against
Speaker 6: It's kind of crazy. I need to double check, but
Speaker 6: I think Groupie ended up leading the NFL and missed
Speaker 6: field goals last year. And that's by not missing one here.
Speaker 6: That's how bad it was in New Orleans before he
Speaker 6: got here and got with Brian Mason and a quality
Speaker 6: snapper and a holder. So yeah, and it's funny. I
Speaker 6: was talking to Brian Mason, I said, you know that
Speaker 6: was a c L and m c L kicking leg,
Speaker 6: Right's kicking leg Okay. Uh, But I said, you know,
Speaker 6: I've never been around the guy in all my years
Speaker 6: here that's been as small as Blake Groupie. I said,
Speaker 6: you see him in the long room. You think he's
Speaker 6: one of the equipment guys. Uh so, But but I
Speaker 6: tell you, it's all about leverage and mechanics, and I
Speaker 6: just think you go with probably go with a health
Speaker 6: with the guy that's proving it. And and it'll be
Speaker 6: a tough decision. Whoever they cut will be kicking for
Speaker 6: somebody this year.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 6: And it's kind of hard. They tried to kick three
Speaker 6: times a week. But again, Schrader was going, he was
Speaker 6: headed towards whatever. Last year. I think he was a
Speaker 6: player of the month, player of the week, player of
Speaker 6: the month, whatever it was. And then he gets blown
Speaker 6: up on that attempt. So uh, I'm pulling for Schrader.
Speaker 6: I'm a local guy and all that, but you got
Speaker 6: to kind of pull be in favor of if you're betting,
Speaker 6: betting than the guy not coming back from a knee injury.
Speaker 3: I'm going to nickname Groupie Lucky because he looks like
Speaker 3: Lucky from Lucky Charms.
Speaker 6: He's just a little guy, but boy, I tell you.
Speaker 2: He's magically delicious.
Speaker 6: When you don't miss as a kicker, you're doing something
Speaker 6: pretty good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I listen. I probably shouldn't, but I proclaimed him.
Speaker 3: I think after that sixty yarder in Seattle, I'm a
Speaker 3: groupie groupie. And then, of course the Colts do what
Speaker 3: the Colts did. End up losing the game, But after
Speaker 3: that sixty.
Speaker 6: Yarder, that's one of the most perfect game plans ever
Speaker 6: devised offensively and defensively against a team that was going
Speaker 6: to win the Super Bowl. There, you should have beat
Speaker 6: him with the guy that was on his couch a
Speaker 6: few weeks prior, and just eighteen was an eighteen sixteen
Speaker 6: whatever hey kicked. The guy could kick six field goals,
Speaker 6: one of the most premiere total game plans, and it
Speaker 6: just quite wasn't.
Speaker 3: Enoughhilip Rivers, That's incredible. I can't believe.
Speaker 6: I know.
Speaker 3: Do you ever have a hard time believing that Philip
Speaker 3: Rivers quarterback here last year?
Speaker 6: I know? Well, and again, if Richard isn't healthy, that
Speaker 6: doesn't happen and things change. But yeah, it was a
Speaker 6: cool story, sort of uh, for all the wrong reasons.
Speaker 2: All the wrong reasons.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but.
Speaker 6: I love being around Philip Rivers. He's just a he's
Speaker 6: a great guy and he's a wealth of of of knowledge.
Speaker 6: But we don't need an Act three of Philip Rivers.
Speaker 3: Okay, I in closing here, Mike, Keenan Allen, Deebo, Samuel
Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs. Of those three veterans that would be available,
Speaker 3: who would you.
Speaker 6: Go with Keenan Allen. We were always connecting dots on
Speaker 6: free agents, and this one makes and un let's see
Speaker 6: unless he wants to go back to the Chargers and
Speaker 6: he's waiting for something. But it makes too much sense.
Speaker 6: So get him in here in a couple of weeks
Speaker 6: and let him get his fifty or sixty. But he
Speaker 6: could step in. I've ember asking Reggie Wayne one time,
Speaker 6: who do you compare Michael Pittman to? He said, Keenan Allen.
Speaker 6: So bring Keenan Allen in, let him do Pittman stuff
Speaker 6: on the outside on the left, and then everybody else
Speaker 6: can do what they do more from Pierce. But until
Speaker 6: you get that third guy, that free aging guy, it's
Speaker 6: just you got guys doing things they're either not used
Speaker 6: to maybe not capable of that free aging guy can
Speaker 6: do so much to putting people in the right place.
Speaker 3: All Right, I'm going to send Steve your number. He's
Speaker 3: going to reach out to you and set you up
Speaker 3: for the fourteenth. Okay, if I can make it, I will.
Speaker 3: We appreciate your palas always know that to be true.
Speaker 3: And I guess somebody's offended because I referenced Groupie is
Speaker 3: magically delicious, which does sound weird.
Speaker 2: I would agree, Yeah, it's all about lucky charms in
Speaker 2: the cereal.
Speaker 6: You do you say a lot more to be offended
Speaker 6: with them that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt. I try to on a daily basis.
Speaker 2: Thanks you, brother, I appreciate you well.
Speaker 4: Buddy.
Speaker 2: To Mike Chaffell of CBS four and Fox fifty nine,