1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Tony Grimes is a new pretty Boilermaker, part of the 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: defensive backfield that Barry Odin brought with him from unl 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: V and Tony a cornerback who has played at Texas 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: A and M North Carolina and the Running ReBs before which, 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: by the way, Tony Grimes is U and l V 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: football known as the Running Rebels or just the Rebels. 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: The running Rebels what you can call it the Rebels as. 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: Well, because I always wondered if the Running Rebels were 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: called that just because of like the high flying Jerry 10 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: Tarcanian basketball team, and if the other sports were just rebels. 11 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: But nonetheless, do you know why we led and introed 12 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: you with that song? 13 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 2: It was a great day in me is a great 14 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 2: day to be a boiler Maker episode? 15 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: Okay, see he's happy about that. Yes, Eddie, go ahead. 16 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: Would you like to divulge? 17 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 3: You can't, Jake, It's up to you. 18 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: It is my understanding, Tony, And you tell me if 19 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: I'm wrong in this, because it wouldn't be the first 20 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: time I was wrong once in nineteen seventy eight about something. 21 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: Did you attend Princess Anne Heist School? 22 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 3: Yes? 23 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 4: I did? 24 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 3: Okay, when you. 25 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: Look at the list of notable alumnis from your high school. 26 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: You are listed on the Wikipedia page. And as we know, 27 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: Wikipedia is in fact all knowing. 28 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 3: So too. 29 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: Juice Newton, she used to sing the song playing with 30 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: the Queen of Hearts, I think right, Curtis Strange, pretty 31 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: good golfer, okay. And then the guy that did that song, 32 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: Pharaoh Williams. You knew this correct, Yes I did. 33 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 2: Pharrell will actually did is a little show at pressing. 34 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 4: The year I was there, so really, yes, I did it. 35 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, that year something in the water happy in 36 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: Virginia Beach when everyone came down. 37 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: Very cool. Virginia Beach, by the way, is a beautiful area. 38 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: It's a very cool area, and a lot of great 39 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: players come out of there. You are one of them. 40 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: Let's talk about this. You have landed now in Purdue. 41 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: You said, it's a great day to be a prdue Boilermaker. 42 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: But you come here along with your head coach from 43 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: you and LV and the reality is that seemingly you 44 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: guys in camp and getting ready for the year all 45 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: have to be wearing name tags because this is a 46 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: conglomeration of a lot of faces that have been brought together. 47 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: How have things gone and how unusual is it now 48 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 1: to have so many transfer players all trying to mesh 49 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: into one team. 50 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: So far things has been going amazing, And I love 51 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: how our team came together from the spring. How we 52 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 2: had a lot of new players come in the spring. 53 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 2: It was tough, but I think in the locker room 54 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: we had a great player led team, and especially in 55 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: the locker room, so everyone was cool, friends and everyone. 56 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 4: Just likely compete. 57 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 2: Then the summer came around, we got more new trances, 58 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 2: people loved, People came and you know, team chemiscry wasn't 59 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: they at first, But the more you work out with 60 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: each other, the more you be around each other every day, 61 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: especially in this camp, We've grown a lot. We've grown 62 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 2: a lot, and I'm definitely proud of the team we got. 63 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: Right now, a week from Saturday, you open up against 64 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: ball State, and I'm curious, have you guys even started 65 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: to get into say ball State and scouting plans and 66 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: that kind of thing, or is it still at this 67 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: point simply learning what Purdue is going to be. 68 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 2: I think we have a great idea of what Purdue 69 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 2: is going to be, and I can't wait till we 70 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: put it on this way, but we're nibbling dobbling in 71 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: here and there in bass stable or we're also just 72 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 2: keep grinding and keep focus on what we need to 73 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: focus on to get better at where we need to 74 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: get better at what. I can't wait to put it 75 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 2: on the show next week. 76 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: Tony Grimes, by the way, is our guest of the 77 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: Predue Boilermakers. What is Purdue football? What is the brand 78 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: and the style going to be for Purdue? 79 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: Are smart and tough and we're going to put our 80 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: caps on that because that's what. 81 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 4: Coach Odin want us to do. 82 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: Because own a co Odin, Joe Dad until our mindset 83 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 2: every day we come to work, are smart and tough 84 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,119 Speaker 2: and you know, and we do those three things, we're 85 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: gonna be We're gonna be a good team. 86 00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 3: How does a coach you know you coach? 87 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: You played for coach Ottam at UNLV's That's probably presumably 88 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: why you ended up in West Lafayette when he left 89 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: UNLV to come take the Purdue head coaching job. When 90 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: you think about a practice and the way that he coaches, 91 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: you know, there's two kinds of coaches, Tony. There's the 92 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: guys that instill the fear in you and are you know, 93 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: screaming and yelling and their disciplinarians. And then there are 94 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: guys that take the more soft approach, a Tony Dungee 95 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: approach where they let you know what they want and 96 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: you just you trust them big word today and so 97 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: therefore you don't want to disappoint them. Where does coach otum. 98 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 2: Lie Cause Odom Codrola has a great person in Natalie. 99 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: He got a different trase to with him. And he's 100 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 2: actually to me and I've seen him because I was 101 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: with him last year. 102 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 4: He's both like he you. 103 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: Know, he takes the till the laid bag, sees what 104 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 2: says what he needs to say. But he also has 105 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: that switch where he can turn it on, and he 106 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: turn it on and you can ask anyone in he 107 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 2: turned on. 108 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 4: Is nothing to play with it. 109 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: But that's all We always respect coach Odham because he's 110 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 2: going to give it to you real. 111 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 4: He showed tough love. So yeah, he's both. To me, 112 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 4: he's both. I've seen both sides. 113 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: Are you guys a defense that you know? It's interesting? 114 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: Tony Grimes our guest from Perdue. He's a cornerback for 115 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: the Boiler makers there are, and we're seeing this now. 116 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: I think even in the NFL some defenses. Lou Ana Roumo, 117 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: the new defensive coordinator for the Colts, I think he 118 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: uses a defense that really relies a lot on the 119 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: back of the defense, allowing for the front to give 120 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: different looks and stunts and to, you know, to to 121 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: really have kind of a reliability in the back end 122 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: of your defense type system. Where and then you get 123 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: defenses that are really relying on the linebackers being kind 124 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: of the anchor of things. Where does Barry Odom's defense 125 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: lie in terms of linebacker use and overall scheme. 126 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: I think coach Odom and our defensive coordinator coach here, 127 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 2: they have great mantter, a great defensive on game plan, 128 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: and we obviously we can do it all. We can 129 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: rely on linebackers more or we're going to allow on 130 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: us because a lot more we're going to allow on 131 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 2: our dv is more So, he's just some mixed variators, 132 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: variations of what he got in style. 133 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 1: Now I'm looking. I'm looking right here, by the way. 134 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: At your high school, your colors were red, white and blue. 135 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: You were the Cavaliers, Is that right? 136 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 4: Cavaliers yep. 137 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: So so you've been a cavalier, you've been a tar heel, 138 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: you've been an aggie, you've been a running rebel, and 139 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: now you're a boiler maker. Tell me, tell me why 140 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: the Black and Gold is the most comfortable on you. 141 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 2: Black can go to a couple of poll of me, 142 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: because when I'm just older and I just got more 143 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 2: confident in myself, more, more swaggering with myself more. You know, 144 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: I'm just older. So the Black and Gold is just 145 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: gonna fit more. I'm more comfortable. 146 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: So that's what about Purdue itself has been an adjustment 147 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: for you. Let's say, and I don't even necessarily mean 148 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: from a football standpoint, you know, just maybe overall, but 149 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: you know what has been the thing that his head. 150 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 2: Honestly, I think the difference was from definitely coming from 151 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: Chapel Hill, coming from College Station, and coming from Las 152 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 2: Vegas West. 153 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 4: I mean, it's nothing in West Lafaier. I mean, West 154 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 4: lafierg is amazing, don't. 155 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: It's like, don't get me wrong, I love West Lafayette, 156 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 2: great people here, but it just everyone knows there's nothing 157 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 2: West Lafayer but West lafayat. 158 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 4: But that's what I love. 159 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 2: I love a college town. I love a college town 160 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 2: because when football. 161 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 4: Season, everyone loves for Watson. When the football season, the town. 162 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 2: Is going crazy like and that's what we love. 163 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 4: So I love a college town football school. 164 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: So there, hey, listen raw S at night in particular 165 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: is pretty awesome. 166 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 3: I love it. 167 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: I went last year, went to a game up there, 168 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: Southern play Oregon. I got my picture taken with a 169 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: duck Tony. Don't get mad, but it was great, right, 170 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: So I get it. I'm curious of this, and you 171 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: would know better than anybody. Tony Grimes is a cornerback 172 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: for Purdue. You have gotten a chance through practice to 173 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: watch what Purdue is going to be offensively? What stands 174 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: out at you? And for those that are unfamiliar or 175 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: are curious, what is the style that we will see 176 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: from the Purdue offense? 177 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 4: What stands out to me from our offense? And to 178 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 4: this point, we just have a. 179 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: Great offensive line, great team chemistry, other offers a line. 180 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 4: Then we got a great receiving corps. 181 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: I think this is receiving corps might be one of 182 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: the tops on the sea by the time. 183 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 4: For for some time that I've been playing ball, our schemes, 184 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 4: office scheme. 185 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 2: I think the top off mean we got receivers that 186 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: got seed that can go down the field. So yeah, 187 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: last year you obviously faced Boise State twice at you 188 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 2: and Elfie, what was it like going up against Ashton 189 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: gent twice last year? 190 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 4: It was fun. 191 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 2: We knew well, our DC knew what we had to do. 192 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: We got to stop the run. We gotta start asking 193 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: genc and it was Toms. He had sucsal players over 194 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: his times, you know. 195 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 4: What, we held him under and half and all that 196 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 4: kind of stuff. 197 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 2: So but he's a great player and he got the 198 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: job done. 199 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 4: I wish we could have, you know, got the got 200 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 4: to w against him. But now everything plays out the 201 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 4: way he plays. 202 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: Out, did he You know, it's interesting he got off 203 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: to kind of a slow start with the Raiders so 204 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: far in his time, but then all the last game 205 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: he had a couple of runs where you're like, man, 206 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: that dude runs hard. I don't know, you know, I 207 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: don't know if you listened as a breakaway speed guy. 208 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: What what's your overall assessment of having a light up 209 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: against him? 210 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: Oh no, he's he's tough to tackle like like and 211 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: I think that most people have seen it through his 212 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 2: tape and now I seen it in the vil. 213 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 4: He's tough to tackle, like, he's not known easy one 214 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 4: tackle guy. You got to bring you gotta bring. 215 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: Your you gotta wrap your horns, run your feet, and 216 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: you got to have multiple people tackle him. That's for sure. 217 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: He's a great runner, for sure, break speed. I'm not 218 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: gonna listen him as that because I really listened and 219 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 2: he's just tough. He's gonna he's gonna b tuckle for sure. 220 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: Now have you been on campus, law Tony Grimes is 221 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: our guest. Have they let you know about the rivalry 222 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: with Indiana and the bucket game? Or does that happen 223 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: later in the year. 224 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 2: Oh nah, They let me know that the first at first, 225 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: the something I got here, the fans let me know. 226 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 4: People went I went out to eat. They were letting 227 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 4: me know. 228 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 2: So, yeah, it's a big thing here for sure. And 229 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: then that's what I can't wait to. 230 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 4: Play a game like I can't wait to play. Like, 231 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 4: if it's one game that I can't wait to play, 232 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 4: it's that game. And I'm already picturing in my heads 233 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 4: getting bad games. You know, we all hope they come here. Yeah, 234 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 4: I can't wait. 235 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: Already excited for the bucket game. I like it, but 236 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: a lot of football between now and then. Lastly, let 237 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: me ask you what jumps out at you about the 238 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: Big ten in general. I mean, you have obviously now 239 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: played in the ACC, You've played in what the SEC? 240 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: Is it Mountain West for UNLB, so you better you've 241 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: played a couple different leagues, But what about the Big 242 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: ten jumps out of you? And maybe for that matter, 243 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 1: even the different styles of play that you will see. 244 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 2: I feel what just all me into the Big ten 245 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 2: is they gotta they got around like everything is good 246 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: to me, Like they got a big ten carry, good 247 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: great DB's, great dvs get drafted at a big ten. 248 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 2: You also got great linebackers that get drafted at the 249 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 2: big ten. You also got great defense en details that 250 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 2: get drafted at a big ten. So it's like the 251 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: defense for the Big ten is to me, that's. 252 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 4: Where I see they They you know, fit more amazing. 253 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: Hey did you play with Josh Downs at North Carolina 254 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 1: the now current cult? 255 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 4: Yeah that's my vesting. 256 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, got your best friend, Yes, sir? How often do 257 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 3: you talk to him? 258 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: Right in here? 259 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 4: And yeah? I check up on them. Yeah, okay, and 260 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 4: especially we're so close now, so. 261 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: You'll be down for Colt scam. Well, it's probably tough, 262 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: right because you're going to be playing. But I guess 263 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: at the very least, I'm going to guess that your 264 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: favorite team growing up. I'm totally going on a guest here. Okay, yes, 265 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that you're favorite and gosh, the years 266 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: might be off here, so my apologies for being an 267 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: old guy. I'm going to guess that your favorite player, 268 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: based on the area where you grew up, was Michael Vick. 269 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: And so I'm thinking that you might have been a 270 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: Falcons fan. But at the same time, I bet a 271 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 1: lot of your buddies were either Ravens or Redskins now 272 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: Commanders fans. Am I am I anywhere? 273 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 3: Close? 274 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 4: Yes? Yes, yes, here close. 275 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 2: I definitely big, big Michael Vig fan. I wasn't a 276 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: crazy Atlanta Bat fan, but I was a big Michael 277 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 2: Vick fan. But Washington Redskins what it was before, But Commanders, 278 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 2: I was a big Washington fan. 279 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 4: Come up, see's a big Washington fan. 280 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: So and so, lastly, you're now a big Colts fan 281 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 1: because of Josh Downs. 282 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 4: Right, Yes, yes, I watched the Colts for sure. 283 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: Tell us one thing about Josh Downs that nobody here knows. 284 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,119 Speaker 4: He got a great shaft of humors. 285 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: And I don't know who he plays out a lot. 286 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:55,599 Speaker 2: I don't know if you see that a lot, but 287 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 2: he got a great shift of humors. 288 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 3: It's a great player. 289 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: He's been a nice player for them, and I would 290 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 1: imagine that probably made you a better player as well, 291 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,119 Speaker 1: both you guys going up against each other in practices 292 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: on the regular basisdue taking place, taking on ball State 293 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: to open things up. That will be a week from 294 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: this Saturday, and then mark your calendars for the bucket game. 295 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: He is predicting it right now, cold in the snow 296 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: and under the lights. So should be a lot of 297 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: fun to watch. Mister Grimes. We wish you the best 298 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: of luck in West Lafayette. We certainly would love to 299 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 1: have you back on the program, but we'll let you 300 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: get back to work, all right. 301 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 4: Thank you, I appreciate you all. You have a great day. 302 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: We should have gotten him give a boiler up. I 303 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: should have done that. Any boiler up, right, that's fun. 304 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: He's a good guy. Good interview for sure. So Daniel 305 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: Jones is in fact, is he in a New York mood. 306 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: We'll have to see, because in New York obviously things 307 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: went awry in the end of his time as a 308 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: New York Football Giant. But he is getting a second 309 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: lease courtesy of his one year deal with the Indianapolis Colts. 310 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 1: I think at the time there were several that thought 311 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: that that was going to be simply in like an 312 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: understudy or maybe even supportive role for Anthony Richardson, other 313 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: than Matt Hiblin, who we worked with, who at the 314 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 1: time said the day that he was released from the Giants, 315 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: Hiblin said, oh, there's your twenty twenty five Colts starter, 316 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: almost flippantly, and here we are. So what kind of 317 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: player are the Colts going to get this year in 318 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: terms of the floor and the ceiling? Excellent questions and 319 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: those of which are you know, uncertain in terms of 320 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: the answer. But Charlotte Carroll is with the Athletic and 321 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: covers the New York Giants, has been on the program 322 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: before and joins us on the always busy and available 323 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: to be sponsored guest line. And Charlotte, I'll begin simply 324 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: with that. Let's start with ceiling. Daniel Jones, because it 325 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: was you know, in erratic run at times with the 326 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: New York Football Giants, and there were times where he 327 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: did play well into the point where they thought he 328 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: could be a franchise a quarterback. When he was at 329 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: his best, Daniel Jones was a good quarterback for what reasons? 330 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 5: Hey, thanks much for having me on. No, that's a 331 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 5: good question, Daniel Jones is it's been how many months? 332 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 5: And Daniel Jones were on to ruffle Wilson and Jackson's art, 333 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 5: so it's fun to come on and talk to DJ. 334 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 5: But he just looked good in the pocket. He could 335 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 5: get the ball out and his legs too, was always 336 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 5: it was a good element of his game. Mobile quarterback 337 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 5: who had dual fret and could be effective in both ways, 338 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 5: especially when he had Saylon Barkley next to him. 339 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: Well that's the thing. When when things went south for 340 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: him in New York. I think the outside market. I mean, 341 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: let's be real, Charlotte, and I mean, this is no 342 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: disrespect to your duty. And I mean, look, I talk 343 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: Colts every day, so six and one half dozen in 344 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: the other here. But the Giants are a franchise in 345 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: the last handful of years that have not been necessarily 346 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: the epicenter of football focus in terms of people outside 347 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: market following them. So the transcendent observation would be that 348 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: simply the talent around him went away as well, and 349 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: therefore some of the toys were taken away and he 350 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: couldn't show who he was. Is that a very nuanced 351 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: way of saying it or is there some accuracy to that? 352 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 5: No? I think there's a lot to it when you 353 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 5: think about what went wrong with Daniel Jones. Obviously at 354 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 5: the Crops he just didn't perform enough to keep the 355 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 5: job and was benched midway through last season. But not 356 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 5: only did he lucic One Barklay, there was a ton 357 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 5: of coaching instability over his time with the Giants, multiple 358 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 5: coaching changes. He suffered injury too. We had the tornyycl 359 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 5: obviously in twenty three, and then he also had neck injury. 360 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 5: So there's just, in my opinion, there's a variety of 361 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 5: factors of kind of where this went wrong and it 362 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 5: just could never come together fully and. 363 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: Then when things did start to go awry. Let's begin 364 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: with that Charlotte you saw in Daniel Jones in the 365 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: way that he handled the situation, the way his teammates 366 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: did or did not have his back. You know, what 367 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: kind of player did you see when there was adversity. 368 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 5: I think he's a professional. I don't think there's any 369 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,719 Speaker 5: doubt in my mind about that. Like he always handled 370 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 5: his business. He wasn't someone who was kind of causing 371 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 5: any drama or like going in and talking about stuff Tomedia, 372 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 5: I feel like kind of he dealt with it. He 373 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 5: came in day after day. You know, he talked at 374 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 5: his press conferences, and his teammate stood at his back. 375 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 5: I think if I'm remembering his correctly, you know, Dexter 376 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 5: Lawrence was one of the first ones to be asked 377 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 5: about it, and they kind of he stood up for him. 378 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 5: I need to check that on that, but they, you know, 379 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 5: they stood up for him and he was respected. 380 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 3: In the locker room, did he? Daniel Jones? 381 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: By the way, we're speaking with Charlotte Caroll, who's there 382 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: with the let it cover the New York Giants, the 383 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: Jones tenure in New York. When you were watching it 384 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: and he was playing well and he had you know, 385 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley and et cetera around him, you saw his 386 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: long term ceiling as being what did you have the 387 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: impression Charlotte that he could be a franchise quarterback you 388 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: could win with or was he just kind of a 389 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: guy holding onto the steering wheel. 390 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 5: I don't know. I think that was the question that 391 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 5: the Giants kind of had to ask themselves. And you know, 392 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 5: they signed they agreed to that contract extension after the 393 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 5: twenty two season when they made the playoff surprisingly and 394 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 5: Brian Daviles first year, but they did give themselves an 395 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 5: out in that and it was you know, obviously you're 396 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 5: paying them all this money, but it's easy to get 397 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 5: out of in that situation. So I think that's the 398 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 5: view that they took is, you know, we we like 399 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 5: what we've seen with him. Obviously he had the success 400 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 5: this year, but we want to see more and if 401 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 5: this can be continuous. And I think that is telling 402 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 5: when you look back at Daniel. 403 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: Charlotte in terms of Daniel Jones now with the Colts, 404 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: when you look at and I don't know how much 405 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: you are aware of the talent around him here, but 406 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: it seems as though, you know, pretty good receiving corps. 407 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: He's got Michael Pittman Junior, who last year had a 408 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: back injury but had a good year, Josh Downs is 409 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: a really good slot receiver that's kind of your in 410 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: space guy. Alec Pierce can get behind the defense, so 411 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: to can Adie Mitchell if he can find consistency in 412 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: grabbing the ball. And you've got Tyler Warren the rookie 413 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: tight end that seems to be a really good, solid 414 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: target in multiple areas, and then Jonathan Taylor behind him. 415 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 1: When I list for you that roster and those players, 416 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: the kind of player that most would benefit from a 417 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones style quarterbacking would be which kind of receiver. 418 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 5: That's a good question. I haven't took on Daniel Jones 419 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 5: and the receivers with UH in a long time, so 420 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 5: that's a good question. I just think he needs someone 421 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 5: who's gonna be there for him consistently. That was always 422 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 5: like his relationship with Darius Layton, Like I'd be curious, 423 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 5: like which one ends up being his guy. He turned 424 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 5: to Slayton a lot. It was Isaiah Hodgens one year. 425 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 5: He just got in that rhythm where he really trusted 426 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 5: his guy. So I'll be curious who ends up being 427 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 5: in Indie in what they can kind of form. But 428 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 5: I don't think it could be overstated enough that, you know, 429 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 5: like a fresh start for him will be extremely beneficial, 430 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 5: just to see what he's able to do in an 431 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 5: environment that's not New York. Obviously, he went to Minnesota 432 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 5: for a little bit, and I know Indy's got its 433 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 5: own kind of there's a lot going on there with 434 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 5: the kind of quarterback and stuff. But I think it 435 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 5: will be very interesting if he's able to really capitalize 436 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 5: on that. And then in addition to kind of who 437 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 5: is his his go to guy? 438 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting you point that out show and 439 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: I think it's a fair point about New York. Would 440 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: do quarterbacks live in a different fish bowl in New York? 441 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 1: In other words, some of the deficiencies that Daniel Jones 442 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: may have had might have been illuminated just by the media. 443 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 1: And I realized, I said, we're not You know that 444 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: the Giants don't get talked a lot outside of New York, 445 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 1: but it's still New York City. And the amount of 446 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: media covering the Giants is the amount of the AFC 447 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: South combined right for every team. So would he have 448 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: had the same I guess struggles of consistency once things 449 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,959 Speaker 1: began being questioned about him. If he had played in 450 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: Houston or Jacksonville or Tennessee. Did you get any glimpse 451 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:31,719 Speaker 1: of his moxie? 452 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I don't think. I mean, we're not 453 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 5: the ones on the field. I mean we obviously there's 454 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 5: there's a lot of coverage and there's a lot of 455 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 5: like speculation, and there's so much heightened media presence of 456 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 5: just questions and every little thing is going to be examined. 457 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 5: At the end of the day, he's the one plane. 458 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 5: And I don't think there was ever an issue of 459 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 5: how he handled it because he did. I mean, I 460 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 5: wasn't there for his full tenure, but he was, like 461 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 5: I said earlier, just a professional. He did his business 462 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 5: and he just kind of handled it. He wasn't again 463 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 5: going on on rants or anything. He was very professional. 464 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 5: So I don't know necessarily if that would have, like 465 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 5: his performance on the field would change in another location 466 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 5: based on how much like the media attention got to him, 467 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,479 Speaker 5: because I mean, I don't know one hundred percent, but 468 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 5: all these guys are kind of like you know, they 469 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 5: tune it out whatever and do their best to do that, 470 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 5: and I do think he was one who tried to 471 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 5: do that. 472 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 6: Charlotte, it just kind of felt like his confidence in 473 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 6: himself was not there last year. And Tyrone Tracy, the 474 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 6: running back for New York who has ties to Central 475 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 6: India beating a high school graduate from the Kido Central, 476 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 6: was on our morning show one time and he said 477 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 6: that maybe if a coaching staff in a front office 478 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 6: and an organization can rally behind Daniel, have belief in 479 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 6: him and kind of instill that confidence back into him, 480 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 6: it can prove to be the quarterback that the New 481 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 6: York Giants was. Do you think the confidence from Shane 482 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 6: Steichen in trusting him to start week one to get 483 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 6: that confidence and some of that selfless team back into 484 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 6: Daniel Jones like we used to see in the early 485 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 6: years of his career. 486 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 5: In New York, Yeah, I mean I think that's extremely possible. 487 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 5: I do think the coming back from the injury too 488 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 5: might not have is also important to consider when talking 489 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 5: about Daniel's confidence. I mean, he was coming back off 490 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 5: of that ended up in you know, starting and all 491 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 5: of that good stuff, but that's still you're coming back 492 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 5: from that injury and just like learning to trust yourself 493 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 5: and that capacity again. So when you think about like 494 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 5: the confidence that I do think that's important to consider. 495 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 5: But yeah, it goes back to the fresh start and 496 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 5: you know, him being named the starter has got to 497 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 5: be a huge system of confidence of who's going into 498 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 5: week one and knowing that's his job to lose. 499 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 6: Our listening audience knows, Charlotte that Tyron Tracy and I 500 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 6: went to high school together. We're I think two years apart. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 501 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 6: I was not shocked by his emergence last year with 502 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 6: the Giants of becoming their RB one. What have you 503 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 6: seen from him so far in training camp and through 504 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 6: the first two preseason games that you've seen that he's 505 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 6: grown a little bit from his rookie to sophomore year. 506 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 5: Well, this is exciting, probably no more than me. I 507 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 5: don't know why you see No. I think Mike Taska 508 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 5: said his sense of the coordinator system. Head coach called 509 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 5: him motivated. He's just trying to become a more dynamic 510 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 5: player and you can see that. And you know he's 511 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 5: talked about his offeason and how he's tried to improve 512 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 5: and get better. But he's kind of been the go 513 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 5: to guy. They turned to him in the first three 514 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,959 Speaker 5: season game for for multiple carries. I don't remember how 515 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 5: many straight, but Russell Wilson went to him. Then in 516 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 5: the second pre season game with the offensive starters playing more, 517 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 5: he got seven carry a team high seven carries for 518 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 5: thirty nine yards. So it's he's kind of that go 519 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 5: to guy. And then with the Giants drafted in Campskataboo, 520 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 5: there's a nice component. They compliment each other really well. 521 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 5: So Camp Skataboo has been dealing with an injury, so 522 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 5: when we kind of see him back a little bit more, 523 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 5: A'll be curious, like what the snap division is like 524 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 5: and how they kind of play together. Tracy still looks 525 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 5: as strong as needed to kind of close out last year. 526 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: Charlotte Eddie loves pointing out that he went understandably so 527 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 1: that he went to high school with Tyrone Tracy because 528 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: he's an NFL player, right. Aaron Gibson, who was another 529 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: NFL player, went to Eddie's high school. The biggest athlete, 530 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 1: the biggest person from my high school would be probably 531 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: Babyface went to my high school, Jared from Subway, But 532 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: that's been kind of shelfed. So for you, Charlotte, I'm 533 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: curious you went to high school where. 534 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 5: I went high school in Chicago, So I am born 535 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 5: and raised, and I went to Whitney Young. So we 536 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 5: have some very cool alumni who went there. 537 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: Okay, who's the biggest alum of Whitney Young High School? 538 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 5: I think I win this one. It's Michelle Obama. 539 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 3: That's pretty big. That's pretty hard to argue that. 540 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: No, what about Whitney Old? What about Whitney Old High School? Anybody, 541 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,719 Speaker 1: I mean the older one anywhere there? Okay, So Michelle Obama, 542 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: who's second? 543 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, I got in high school. We're talking. 544 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 3: I'm glad at the very Michelle Obama. 545 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: I guess you could say former Oregon State basketball coach 546 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: Craig Robinson also would have gone to that high school 547 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: because they were brother sisters, so he would have. I'm 548 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: assuming that he went there as well, right, I think so? 549 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 5: I mean, to be honest, Michelle is always like that's 550 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 5: prioritized of like in my head of like that's the 551 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 5: big alumni. We had a really good basketball program when 552 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 5: I was in high school. So we had a couple 553 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 5: I believe we had a draft pick whose name is 554 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 5: escaping me right now. Uh. So we had really good basketball. 555 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 5: It was just a really good high school to go to, 556 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 5: and and lots of very smart and talented people to 557 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 5: come out. 558 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 3: Okay, that's a big one. 559 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 5: Was he was there? 560 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: I think it says here it's a magnet school. Did 561 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: that make things difficult if you had to go through 562 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: metal detectors? 563 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 5: Oh? Jokes, jokes, jokes. 564 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: Science. Look, you got a science ball and a math team. 565 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: Were you on either of those? 566 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 5: No? I was not good on other science. That's why 567 00:26:58,680 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 5: I'm a journalist. 568 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 3: Academic decathlon debate team. Yeah, here we go. This is wow. 569 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: This list of notable alumni is impressive, by the way, impressive, 570 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: very impressive. Ron Howard, but not the director. Okay, we 571 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: need to add you on the Wikipedia. We're going to 572 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: add you to the to the page here for notable alumni. 573 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: Charlotte Carroll from the Athletic New York Giants beat writer. Charlotte, 574 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: We appreciate the time as always and appreciate the information 575 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: on Daniel Jones. 576 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 5: Thanks so much for having me on. I'm happy to 577 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 5: talk anytime. 578 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: Wow, this is Russell Maryland. I mean, this is an 579 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: impressive list. An impressive list, right, I don't think she 580 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: liked my magnet joke.