1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: We're back another edition of Colts Corner with myself. That 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: would be Kevin Bowen. Thank you so much for tuning in. 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: Training Camp is officially here, recording this on Tuesday afternoon, 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: just a couple hours after Chris Baller got done with 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: his annual pre training camp presser practices. We'll commence in 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: a hurry Wednesday through Saturday four straight here to start camp. 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: Plenty of coverage up on one O seven five thefan 8 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: dot Com. Eddie and I will certainly continue our podcast 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: here throughout camp. Cadence will be weird today. It's just 10 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: kind of an odd that I felt like, hey, let's 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: get this up as quick as possible, so we'll see 12 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: how just the normal schedule looks. It'll be a little 13 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: different here over the next month or so, but nonetheless, 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,959 Speaker 1: we appreciate you tuning in. We'll get to Twitter questions eventually, 15 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: but you know, as is typical with this sort of pod, 16 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: it's just kind of a lot of news items to 17 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 1: react to, and honestly, it doesn't seem like the newsiest 18 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: report day. You know, Chris Bauer mentioned and we haven't 19 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: seen anything official yet, but doesn't expect any on the 20 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: physically unable to perform list. I know occasionally there can 21 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,839 Speaker 1: be a guy or to trickle out, but nothing too major. 22 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: It seems like on that front, Ziara Franklin will miss 23 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: a little bit of time to start camp. That is 24 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: not surprising news, although it, you know, is a tad significant. 25 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: You know, I think the thought was he could miss 26 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: a week or two when the surgery first happened in 27 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: early May. And this is the unfortunate nature when you 28 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: have such a late offseason surgery like Zaya had. But 29 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: we'll see how long his absence will be. Ballad said 30 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: he doesn't expect him to be on the pup list, 31 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: so you know, he is doing some running and everything, 32 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: so you would think his return would be, you know, 33 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: sooner rather than later. But still, anytime you're on a 34 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: new defense, you want the quarterback of your linebacker crew, 35 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: or I should say, of your defense as a whole, 36 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: to be out there as soon as possible. So Jalen 37 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: Carlis is good to go. And again now we start 38 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: getting into the Joe batchies, the camera groans, the Chaguna lubi's, 39 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: you know, those sorts of names. But I think it's 40 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: really important for his are to get out there as 41 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: soon as possible, get in to the eleven on eleven 42 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: portion as soon as possible, more so from just an 43 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: installation standpoint than anything, So that would be one to watch, 44 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: you know, as far as quarterback is concerned. The Anthony 45 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: Richardson restriction is volume versus participation. You know, back at 46 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: the end of the spring, it was missing those final 47 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: and what was it, seven of the nine practices, Whereas 48 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: it sounds like early on he will participate, but maybe 49 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: the volume won't be you know, as immense as it 50 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: would be for Daniel Jones for example. So I think 51 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: I exit on the Richardson quarterback front from today's news 52 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: and we'll probably focus on this when do we get 53 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: back to the fifty to fifty split between him and 54 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. I will continue to think Daniel Jones is 55 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 1: a starter until we get back to that point. Then 56 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: once we're back there, Okay, how much can Anthony Richardson, 57 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: you know, recreate a competition? So it sounds like they 58 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: will limit some volume. Ballert I think mentioned like day 59 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: two three here in this four day stretch to start camp, 60 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,119 Speaker 1: which again this is the only one of the entire 61 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: training camp that's longer than two days in a row. 62 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: So that's good news for Richardson. You wouldn't think there'd 63 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: be much restriction at all once you get through these 64 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: four days here, which again is vital. You know, when 65 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: does fifty to fifty occur? Does it occur at the 66 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: Saturday practice? Does it occur at Monday's practice? Tuesday's practice again? 67 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 1: You know how far along, you know, do we get 68 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: before we get back to kind of a true competition. 69 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: You know, Ballad wasn't really in the mood to take 70 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: de bait on the make or break year. For Anthony Richardson, 71 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: I wouldn't expect him to, you know, take that. You know, 72 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: he quickly mentioned Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold as examples, 73 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: and you know, obviously those guys move teams in both 74 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: of their cases, they move conferences. And you guys have 75 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: heard me say this quite often. I don't think band 76 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: aids work in the AFC at quarterback, I just don't. 77 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: I think the position is way too high end, way 78 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: too much depth in this conference for band aids to 79 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: really really work. And even in the NFC, if you 80 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: look at Baker, you look at Darnold, or you look 81 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: at Geno Smith whoever you want to throw in that category. 82 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: A resurrections in other places, A they had to move organizations, 83 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: and then B it's not like they've had a ton 84 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: of playoff success. I mean, what's their playoff record if 85 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: you want to look at you know, all those guys there, 86 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: you know Ballard. I thought it was a great follow 87 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: up from James Boyd and asking him, you know, trajectory wise, 88 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: what is it in Richardson's game where you feel like 89 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: there is still the arrow pointing up? And you know 90 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: he pointed to the late game moments, which you know 91 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: have certainly been there. I mean he has delivered quite 92 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: often really in the fourth quarter two minute situations. You know, 93 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: last year of the Jets and the Patriots are the 94 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: two you know, obvious examples of that. I don't know 95 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: if I've seen the stretches of accuracy that maybe Ballard has, 96 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: or at least that he says he has publicly, you know, 97 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: in terms of Richardson and like when do you pull 98 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: the plug? I'm much more of a if you're going 99 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: to draft the project, at least attempt the project. And 100 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: I think part of that attempt is at least getting 101 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: to the healthy offseason. You know, if you're not even 102 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: going to get to the healthy offseason, then why believe 103 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: in it? Why you know, draft and develop? Why I 104 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: believe in your coaching staff. Why I believe in the 105 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: character of the player. And you know, all of those 106 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: are in question right now with Richardson, and I'm talking, 107 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: you know, football character of that player. So to me, 108 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: you know, I've kind of always viewed this in a 109 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: three year window. Well you know, now we're at year three. 110 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: Here comes the financial decision after the season and all 111 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: of that. So you know, I know there was a 112 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe a tad of tension brewing with 113 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: that question. You know, for the most part, I didn't 114 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: think Ballad was in too much of a you know, 115 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: acknowledge the pressure or the hot seed. You know, he 116 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: definitely played kind of philosophical hat person, you know when 117 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: asked that question. I think Nate Atkins from The Star 118 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: asked him about pressure, and you know, he quickly, you know, 119 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: went to the well, you know, pressure is going paycheck 120 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: to paycheck and putting food on the table. Well, yeah, 121 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: I mean I like to think when you getting these 122 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: press converse stings, it's kind of a given that we're 123 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: living in an NFL football bubble. We're not living in 124 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: a life bubble. We're not asking questions that are you know, 125 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: life or death and that aspect to it. It's more 126 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: of a hey, you have a resume that's unusual to 127 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: beginning of the ninth year. Go ahead. I don't know 128 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: if every question ever needs to be prefaced by that, 129 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: but you know, certainly I thought that answer was you know, 130 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just thought that was kind of 131 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: an easy cop out. Yeah, we could cop out with 132 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 1: a whole you know, life answer for a lot of 133 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: sports related questions. But we live in a sports world, 134 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: so let's go there. You know, he used the word 135 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 1: to describe Daniel Jones, as you know, he's very centered, 136 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: and the Daniel Jones experiment will be interesting to watch. 137 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: You know, I think one thing about these retread quarterbacks, 138 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: there's a fine balance between how much did they grow 139 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: up and and how much scar tissue is impossible to 140 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: get rid of. And being in New York City is 141 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: one of those. You know, Sam Darnold, at least for 142 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: a year in Minnesota, proved that just because he was 143 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: seeing ghosts in New York doesn't mean that he sees 144 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: ghost everywhere. Now will that continue? You know, again, how 145 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: much of the change of scenery really really healthy? Baker 146 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: Mayfield went to four different teams before he you know, 147 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: really found kind of that that second home, So how 148 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: much of that is needed? So I think the Jones 149 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: thing will be obviously a huge storyline to this camp. 150 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: You know, positions of interest for Ballard outside of quarterback 151 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: and center. You know, Danny Pinser versus Tanna Bordolini's a competition. 152 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: He seems optimistic on the swing tackle and that is 153 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: a huge position to watch. You know, Jalen Travis, you 154 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: know he mentions high ceiling. Well, if he's needed for 155 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, how much of that does it look 156 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: like Bernard Ryman's rookie season. You know, those are some 157 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: of the questions you have when you ask young tackles 158 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: to be thrust into that duty. And again, Travis only 159 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: played college football at the high level for one season. 160 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: You know, he was at Princeton before that. They continue 161 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: to speak highly of Blake Freeland. Last year was I 162 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: would say disaster really for Freeland in camp in the preseason, Bigger, stronger, 163 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: they point to. So, you know, again, what does year 164 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: three look like for him. They really like the defensive 165 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: tackle depth and teri wise. I've mentioned Neville Gallamer a 166 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: few times here in the podcast. He continued to be 167 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: a name and talks about the third cornerback, which I 168 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: know Eddie and I hit on last week. How much 169 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: of that is a position battle? How much of Jalen 170 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: Jones versus Justin Wally is real? It sounds very real. 171 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 1: And he threw in the name of Juju Brent's so 172 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 1: insert all your health caveats with that, but that was 173 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: a name that Ballard threw in there. You know, he 174 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 1: kind of talked about some of the unknown at linebacker 175 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: as well. You know, I feel like we've heard this before, 176 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: but you know, they do expect a much more or 177 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: physical training camp. I try to kind of follow up 178 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: there at the end of exactly what can that look like? 179 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: You know, I totally understand NFL teams have a bit 180 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 1: of you know, a hands tie behind their back when 181 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: it comes to the physicality and camp, but you know, 182 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: what does that exactly look like? Is it more trench drills, 183 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: is it tackling increasing? You know what exactly is that? 184 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 1: And you know, Ballot was a little vague on that, 185 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: so be curious. But you know, you kind of said 186 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: you know you will know, so I guess you know, 187 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: my eyes will be the one that will decide some 188 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: of that. So I'll be curious. You know exactly what 189 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: that looks like, because you know they were a awful 190 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: tackling team last season. You know, it's something Ballad pointed 191 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: to in the press conference, and you know when you 192 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: look at it, it losses and in additions defensively, you know, 193 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: they've lost j Speed, they lost Julian Blackman, they lost 194 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: Io Dangbo. You know you added certainly cam buying them 195 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 1: in Mooney Ward and then I guess J T two 196 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: Malowau and justin Wally you would point you from a 197 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: draft picks standpoint, so you know what's a given to 198 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: there of subtractions versus additions. Obviously schematically there's a big 199 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: change there. You know the forest Buckner mentioned how last 200 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: year was the worst year defensively, he felt like they've 201 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: had here and but you know, a really big fan 202 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: of the bluntness of lou An Arumo. Yeah, I thought 203 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: it was interesting. Kind of late in the press conference, 204 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: Ballard mentioned how he has they have organizationally and he 205 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: there's been some change, and so you know, I kind 206 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: of asked them to follow up, Okay, what are those changes? 207 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: Like they might seem obvious to Ballard, but I'm kind 208 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: of curious, like what what would be different in his eyes? 209 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: Certainly the spending on the onset of free agencies what 210 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: he mentioned, and yes, obviously I think we all can 211 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: look at cam Binham and Mooney Ward, But you know 212 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: what else is it just going from Gus Bradley to 213 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: an Arumo. Does he felt like, you know, did he 214 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: feel like draft wise they did anything to too differently? 215 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: So I didn't necessarily he didn't really expand on that, 216 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: but that's something that you know, on the surface, yes, 217 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: free agency has changed, but outside of that, defensively, yeah, 218 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I see a lot that's again 219 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: crystal clear. Is it a more increased you know, physicality 220 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: to training camp. Is that going to help the end 221 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: of the season struggles which Ballard pointed to on a 222 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: couple different occasions during today's press conference. Does you know 223 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: he pointed the Week one struggles as a lack of physicality? 224 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: Had all there Probably the last thing Ballard wise I 225 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: would point to would be just Bernard Ryman, what's that extension? 226 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: You know, he certainly echoed the line that I get 227 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: that he, you know, is kind of mastered about good 228 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: players with contract extensions of you know, not going to 229 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: talk about that publicly, but really good player who they're 230 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: high on. So we'll wait and see. Ryman is again, 231 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 1: Eddie and I touched on this a little bit of 232 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: an older second contract guy, so you know, we'll see 233 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: if that has any impact grand and he plays a 234 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: position that I think age is fairly well on that. 235 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, those are a couple of things. Two, you know, 236 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: I guess point to player wise. You know, we had 237 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: Kenny Moore the second on our show, and at some 238 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: point I think we'll probably throw in the canny pod 239 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: maybe on a on a future one. I think a 240 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: lot of it is not super time sensitive, so even 241 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: though there might be a few practices into camp, you know, 242 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: some of the stuff will still resonate. But you know, 243 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: he used the word and talking about the defense proactive, 244 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: and when he heard he said that in the media 245 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 1: scrum we had him after the media scrum on our show. 246 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: I thought the words stood out to me because I 247 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: think at times I've even used the opposite of that 248 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: word reactive quite often with the Colts defense, and again 249 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: for me, it's a little bit more in a negative connotation. 250 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: I think it's really hard to be reactive and survive. 251 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: I think, honestly, that's all you're doing is you're trying 252 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: to survive, and that's just not I think the way 253 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: that NFL defenses need a play in twenty twenty five. 254 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: I get it might be a little safer, but to me, 255 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: you've got to try and dictate a little bit more. So, 256 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: you know, when he said that, I thought more of, okay, whatever, 257 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: disguising coverage and being more attacking and playing some more 258 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: man and you know, pressing on the outside and things 259 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: like that. But he actually, you know, because I asked 260 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: him in the in the follow up once we got 261 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: him on our radio show, you know, okay, what do 262 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: you mean by that? And he went with, you know 263 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: a word that we've talked about, and it's a Shane 264 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: Stekeen pillar and that's a preparation knowing who you're going against. 265 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: And I thought that was interesting that that's where Kenny 266 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: went to. And again I think you guys have heard 267 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: me say this, What is really confusing about Shane Steiken's 268 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: acceptance of Gus Bradley's approach defensively was in a way 269 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: Bradley was going to against one of Steichen's true pillars. 270 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: Stich In stresses preparation and stresses doing that to weekly opponents. 271 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: And so when you have a defense that chooses to 272 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: be on the vanilla side, then you're not practicing one 273 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: of your kind of core habits. Now again, Luianna Roumo, 274 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: it's a little different. It's week to week that I 275 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: think is needed. And again it might cause some confusion 276 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: at times, but to me, that's a balance that you 277 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: really have to strike. And so for you know, Kenny 278 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: to use the word proactive, but use it more in 279 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: the Monday through Saturday form of it, I thought was 280 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: something that stood out to me. So you know, we 281 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: can we can play that at a later date. I 282 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: think that covers mostly everything Ballad related again one O 283 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: seventy five. The fan dot com has a full notebook 284 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: recap on everything Chris Boward said in any lingering from 285 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: a health standpoint, but let's give it in Twitter questions. 286 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: I know we got a couple here that I want 287 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: to get to before we start to kind of shift 288 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: some things from a reaction to practices moving forward. This 289 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: one from Brett Harr. We've heard a lot about the 290 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: new lou Anarroumo defense being exotic and him being called 291 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: a mad scientist. Compared to us Bradley's scheme, what you 292 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: expect to see. It's different on a given Sunday, both 293 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: good and bad. Also maybe a winner loser in terms 294 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: of defensive players in the new scheme. Well, you know, 295 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: on the first part of it again, just more disguise, 296 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: more week to week planning, more man coverage, more pressing 297 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: and up ticking, blitzeeing. And you know, it's probably worth 298 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: pointing out, Brett that like there's a bar that you're 299 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: going from that is rather low in a lot of 300 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: those areas. So I'm not talking like you've never tried 301 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: hot sauce in your life or whatever, and you're going 302 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: to like sant Elmo to have that cocktail sauce. Like, 303 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: I'm not acting like you're going, you know, from that 304 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: to that, you know whatever, you know, pick your sauces 305 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: that are a little bit more on the mild side. 306 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: You're increasing it. I don't think you're Brian Flores on 307 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: the scheme scale of it, but again you are increasing that. 308 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: Now again, where can that be poor? Well, you know, 309 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: obviously it's not like Cincinnati was great recently, and you 310 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: know there's personnel questions among that. There are some risk 311 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: in it in that your bust might be really big, 312 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: and so that's something to keep in mind when you're 313 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: looking at it. I you know, I think just to generally, 314 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: I think anytime you bring in a new defensive coordinator, 315 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: the winners often can be you know, just those new bodies. 316 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: So those draft picks, you know, Juju Brents is one 317 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: that has singled them out as someone that he thinks 318 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: is a real big winner in this scheme, and his 319 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: frame and body definitely looks like a guy that can 320 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: kind of swallow some people in press coverage. So you know, 321 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: how much is he a winner in this? You know, 322 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: d line wise, they've mentioned they're gonna have to scout differently, 323 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: So then that brings up Okay, you know what do 324 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 1: got you know, Quitty pay Taekwon Lewis. You know, guys 325 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: that were drafted for the previous scheme, what exactly do 326 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: they look like in this scheme? Here a claude, do 327 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: you think this is going to be a real quarterback battle. 328 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: It's just Daniel Jones is to lose. I don't want 329 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: to look at Danny Jones all season. Ballard in the 330 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: organization handled Richardson wrong from the first day. Well, boys, 331 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: a lot you can go to. I do think there's 332 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: some merit there on the back half of that. But 333 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: do I think it's a real quarterback battle? Again? How 334 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: early is the fifty to fifty split? Once we get there, 335 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: Once that becomes the norm, then I think the battles 336 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: back on again. Do we get their Saturday? Do we 337 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: get their Monday? I think you creep any further into 338 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: next week and the days start to get shorter. But 339 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: let's say Monday, for example, Monday the twenty eighth, it's 340 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: back to fifty to fifty. That means you've got Monday 341 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: the twenty eighth, Tuesday the twenty ninth, the night practice 342 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: the final day, July the thirty first. Then you've got 343 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: back to back Saturday Sunday. That's five practices before you 344 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: go to Baltimore for the joint session, because that first 345 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: full week of August you only have one practice, and 346 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: then the preseason game being the opener on the seventh. 347 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: Then nothing until the weekend, so again it starts to 348 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: get real choppy. So I would look towards, you know 349 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: that aspect of it, of you know, Monday, that's kind 350 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: of the big date. No, Saturday is one that I'm circling, 351 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: but Monday is kind of the big, big one, you know, 352 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: as far as organizationally. Yeah, it's the question of you know, 353 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 1: have you missed more on the field y'or off the field? 354 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,239 Speaker 1: With him? Tony says he's from London. I love it 355 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: coming to Indy to watch the Colts after following them 356 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: for over twenty years. It's Colts Titans game on October 357 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: twenty six. Any suggestions for a good bar to watch 358 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: the Thursday night game when we arrive and then pregame 359 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: spots Sunday also gonna watch i U UCLA Saturday, you're 360 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: gonna watch seven person. I'd go down to Bloomington Fall Saturday, 361 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: late late October and Bloomington, Yes, go down there, and 362 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: even if you don't want to go to the game, 363 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: just post up Kilroy's Yogi's snicks upstairs wherever. I think 364 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: that's a great experience and I think colleges are just 365 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: it's fun to see a College Town if you're not 366 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: super familiar with it from over in London. You know, 367 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: as far as Indie's concerned, I've heard a lot of 368 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: good things about Tom's watch bar. I love the dugout 369 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: in Fountain Square. I love the tap in on mass At. 370 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: The problem is just I got a bad back. I 371 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: need some seatbacks. Man. Those bar stools just don't don't 372 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: do it for me. The side room at the Eagle, 373 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:40,959 Speaker 1: I think it's got a good vibe right next door 374 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: to the tap, you know, if you can post up there, 375 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: you know, kind of a smaller atmosphere, not super sports barry, 376 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: but I think a nice vibe for a Thursday night. 377 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: You know. As far as pregame, I definitely hit Touchdowntown. 378 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: It just kind of hit the tailgate area in general, 379 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: bar wise, and think Slipper Noodle, just the history there 380 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: close to Lucas Oil. I'd stop there, but yeah, Georgia 381 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: Street and all that. That's right. Go and then last 382 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,479 Speaker 1: last one from Jamie here over under on Riley Leonard 383 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: games started due to injury at one and a half. Boy, 384 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: it's definitely got it to the under Boy, I would hope. 385 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: I mean, first time many teams start a third quarterback 386 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: in a season, let alone a six round rookie that 387 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: I mean, he he's just a project. I would think 388 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: if you get to that third quarterback again, if an 389 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: injury cursor Jones or Richardson, I think they look into 390 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: the veteran route. But if you're going, I mean, you 391 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: imagine Riley Leonards starting multiple games for this team. Boy, 392 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: I can't imagine that that happening. All right, we'll be back, Eddie, 393 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: and I'll be back at some point here I don't know. 394 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: Probably early next week is where I would target to 395 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: come back with another podcast, and at that point we'll 396 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: be recapping a good amount of training camp. So again, 397 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: one of Sudden five thefan dot com has got all 398 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: of your camp coverage. Kevin bon and signing off, thanks 399 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: for listening.