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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Best of the Fan morning show

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Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five the Fan.

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Speaker 1: He is Indiana sports through and through. He has seen

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Speaker 1: the highs, the lows, basketball, football, even the baseball program.

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Speaker 1: The soccer programs have had national appearances down there. Everything's

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Speaker 1: gone well at some point or another for just about

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Speaker 1: every program at Indiana. And now it's football's turn. And

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what Greg Rakestraw has to

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Speaker 1: say about a thirty eight to three beatdown of the

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Speaker 1: SEC's Alabama Crimson Tide in a college football playoff game.

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Speaker 1: We welcome mister Rakestraw to our program now on the

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Speaker 1: Payless Liquers Hotline. Greg, I can almost imagine if it's

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Speaker 1: even possible that for a moment you're even speechless over

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Speaker 1: just how dominant Indiana was last night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have run out of adjectives because so many

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Speaker 2: games and somebody else said this and not me, but

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Speaker 2: I have spaced as to who said it. You know,

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Speaker 2: they have had like five or six different biggest games

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Speaker 2: in program history in the last two years. That's one

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Speaker 2: sign as to just how remarkable this is. Think about it.

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Speaker 2: In Don Fischer's storied career, he never called the game

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Speaker 2: of the actual Rose Bowl. Obviously, last year got to

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Speaker 2: call the game from the Rose Bowl, but that spans over,

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Speaker 2: you know, half of a century, and yesterday was a

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Speaker 2: first for him. Maybe the modern version of this is,

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Speaker 2: in the last two years, one team that had the

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Speaker 2: bye has now won of the college football playoffs, and

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Speaker 2: that was Indiana University. So I can keep firing fats

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Speaker 2: at you, but I'm still not sure if I have

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Speaker 2: the full comprehension of just how remarkable, complete and thorough

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Speaker 2: the turnaround of this program has been. So maybe the

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Speaker 2: best way to describe it, or the best reference I

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Speaker 2: can make is go back to when Kurtzignetti has the

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Speaker 2: microphone at Assembly Hall as he is being introduced to

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Speaker 2: the Indiana Faithful. Produced suck, but so Doo's Ohio State,

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Speaker 2: and so does Michigan. And in that time Indiana's got

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Speaker 2: four wins amongst those three schools. And now we'll have

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Speaker 2: the chance to play to be in the National Championship

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Speaker 2: Game two weeks from now. It's stunning and staggering, and

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Speaker 2: I almost feel like I have to say, yes, these

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Speaker 2: are actual factual statements about Indiana University football.

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Speaker 3: Rake when you referenced that intro, I can't even call

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Speaker 3: it a press conference. It was kind of like a

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Speaker 3: school rallying, and he calls out the other programs in

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Speaker 3: the Big ten. I was thinking, this guy is out

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Speaker 3: of his mind. And now I still think this guy's

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Speaker 3: out of his mind because he can't crack a smile

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Speaker 3: when they're up thirty points on the sideline. So when

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Speaker 3: you look at how dialed in his team has been,

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Speaker 3: he talked about how crazy the run has been, the

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Speaker 3: historical perspective that they're in, but to push that aside

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Speaker 3: and still get U seem to perform at this level.

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Speaker 3: How much do you think that says about his coaching ability?

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Speaker 3: Because he has a munch of young people who I mean,

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Speaker 3: I was their age at one point. I'm not too

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Speaker 3: old obviously, but you know eighteen and twenty two year olds,

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Speaker 3: twenty three year olds getting him the dial it in

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Speaker 3: and ignore all the noise, all the praise and go

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Speaker 3: out there perform like that. How much do you think

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Speaker 3: that says about just his level of focus and just

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Speaker 3: his level of coaching.

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Speaker 2: Well, I have said this in various interviews before, and

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Speaker 2: there is a lot of coaches that do the rubber

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Speaker 2: chicken circuit, the banquet circuit, the you know, teach leadership classes.

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Speaker 2: I think most of them are crap. He is the

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Speaker 2: one guy that I'm like, Okay, I would pay money

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Speaker 2: to hang around his practice and see exactly how he

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Speaker 2: gets accomplished, what he does in such a short period

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Speaker 2: of time, and how the main thing is the main thing,

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Speaker 2: how he stays focused, etc. The other element to think

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Speaker 2: about this, and it's what I've said when I asked

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Speaker 2: about kind of his team and why I think they

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Speaker 2: can be so accessful. But let's think about when we

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Speaker 2: kind of knew the forecast was going to be, you know,

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Speaker 2: potentially sloppy during the game, which it wasn't. So hat

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Speaker 2: tip to the ground skirt the rose ball who never

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Speaker 2: has to deal with rain but clearly dealt with it

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Speaker 2: exceedingly well because it didn't rain during yesterday's game. But

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Speaker 2: if we're like, if this turns into a slot fest,

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Speaker 2: that favors Indiana because they're the more physical team. And

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Speaker 2: the word that I keep using about Indiana is that

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Speaker 2: they maul people. They did that.

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Speaker 1: So it's one thing.

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Speaker 2: Because in the past, if Indiana was going to have

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Speaker 2: any level of football success, it was gonna come because

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Speaker 2: they they had a couple of talented offensive players. They

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Speaker 2: were going to out scheme or out gimmick you. And

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Speaker 2: that's not to take away from anything that Cam Cameron

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Speaker 2: that Kevin Wilson did during his time, because they both

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Speaker 2: advanced the ball not to this level. Those teams can

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Speaker 2: move the football offensively because they out scheme you or

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Speaker 2: trick You're out think you, this team up, thanks you.

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Speaker 2: This team just kicks your ass. That's what the Alabama is.

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Speaker 2: The is the bell Weather of the SEC. And it

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Speaker 2: was complete bt A yesterday And James, you can explain

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Speaker 2: what that phrase meast and Jeff, because I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 2: you get it and he doesn't. But ridiculous watching what

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Speaker 2: they did to Alabama yesterday.

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Speaker 1: J Big, Yeah, you want.

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Speaker 4: To take a stab at bt A.

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Speaker 1: What that means, Jeff, No, not here, Belta ass.

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Speaker 3: That's what that means. And that's what that was yesterday Alabama.

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Speaker 1: In my day, we said, b y.

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Speaker 3: A, Now I gotta go watch him off. I was

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Speaker 3: so Grandma would not be pleased, right, but it was

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Speaker 3: necessary watching when I watched yesterday the.

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Speaker 2: New Year on I apologize, but no, that's what I

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Speaker 1: I think Mark Dyton tweeted it out almost word for

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Speaker 1: word yesterday at the end of that game. I want

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Speaker 1: to go back to just internal thoughts though, because it

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Speaker 1: it's so meaningful and it's so new and so unique.

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Speaker 1: My wife, who is a big sports fan, I call

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Speaker 1: her the rational sports fan. She doesn't live and die

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Speaker 1: with him, but man, she knows everything. She loves watching

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Speaker 1: the games. She had to do something really important for

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Speaker 1: a minute during the second half, during halftime, and she

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Speaker 1: came back at the beginning of the fourth quarter and

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Speaker 1: I said, it's thirty eight to three. And the look

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Speaker 1: on her face, Greg was one of disbelief, awe, and

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Speaker 1: joy all at the same time. When Indiana took a

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Speaker 1: thirty eight to three lead in that game yesterday, what

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Speaker 1: was going on in the Nagain in Greg Ragstraw.

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Speaker 2: In the middle of the fourth quarter, I kept going,

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Speaker 2: they're going to play for Nanda's little brother, aren't they?

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Speaker 2: You know, in a national quarterfinal in the Rose Bowl.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna throw throw the backgun there. Not because they

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Speaker 2: want to get him the memory of playing in the

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Speaker 2: Rose Bowl. Because they're protecting their starter for the next

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Speaker 2: game again that seems unfathomable to so many of us.

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Speaker 2: Or the fact that Indiana knock Alabama's quarterback out of

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Speaker 2: the game again goes back to that physicality that we

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Speaker 2: talked about with this football team. The best experience I

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Speaker 2: emostally connected to to the Indiana football story as I

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Speaker 2: am up ser I'm about to tell you, but in

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Speaker 2: my years of being the Iu p Ui slash iu

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Speaker 2: is about the one year that we've qualified for the

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Speaker 2: NCAA tournament and just the way things worked out. Was

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Speaker 2: in Kansas City and we rode a bus home after

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Speaker 2: a nine o'clock Eastern time, you know game. So we

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Speaker 2: was was myself, assistant coaches, et cetera, talking about who

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Speaker 2: do we think we're going to match up with. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna get Kentucky, We're gonna get Marquette and Dwayne Wade,

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get Duke, you know whomever. As far as

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Speaker 2: our first round match, but it was Kentucky, by the way,

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Speaker 2: Marcus Estel and Keith Bogan's. But every ten minutes we

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Speaker 2: just start laughing because I'm like, can you believe we're

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Speaker 2: having this conversation? And it's kind of the same thing

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Speaker 2: about HOWU football? About every five or ten minutes, you

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Speaker 2: just kind of think, is this really happening? And the

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Speaker 2: answer is most definitely. It certainly is.

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Speaker 1: Hey, before I let you go, Greg, do you have

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Speaker 1: any more James before we get going?

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Speaker 3: No, I guess I would pivot a little bit to

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Speaker 3: the Colts. I know it's not the big picture topic

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Speaker 3: and certainly not today, but we do have Riley Leonard

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Speaker 3: starting in the regular season finale. They're going into a

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Speaker 3: offseason with which will be their fifth without a.

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Speaker 4: Playoff birth in a row.

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Speaker 3: How do you feel about just the balance or the

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Speaker 3: me back up the how unique of a situation that

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Speaker 3: Carli Orsa Gordon will find herself in in a few days,

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Speaker 3: Because on one hand, I could see a bunch of

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Speaker 3: changes being made, on the other hand, I could see

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Speaker 3: everything staying the same and.

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Speaker 4: See valid reasons for both.

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Speaker 3: But how I guess maybe excited isn't the right word,

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Speaker 3: But you know, how interested are you to see how

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Speaker 2: Very intrigued, maybe as the word of estoers, just because

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Speaker 2: you know, obviously she to seven degree has inherited a

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Speaker 2: situation that is uncommon, where the team has been as average,

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Speaker 2: has been competitive, but not overly successful, because typically general

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Speaker 2: manager runs don't last that long when you have been

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Speaker 2: hovering around five hundred as this team had, you know,

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Speaker 2: and in Chris's now nine year tenure, there's only two

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Speaker 2: years that they've been bad when and when was his

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Speaker 2: first year? You don't put that on him. And the

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Speaker 2: other one was twenty twenty two when the quarterback car

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Speaker 2: itself finally just kind of, you know, careemed off the

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Speaker 2: rails with Matt Ryan. Other than that, this team has

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Speaker 2: been in playoff contention or a playoff team. And if

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Speaker 2: you look at the roster, I'm preparing to duck as

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Speaker 2: I say this, I don't think they're that far away.

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Speaker 2: There's there's you know, I can look offensively and go, heck,

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Speaker 2: I kind of have an idea who the eleven starters

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Speaker 2: are next year, and they're on this roster. Defense, and frankly,

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Speaker 2: whomever is drafting, and I probably lean towards it being

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Speaker 2: Chris in the spring. Whatever is drafting, it's real simple, Hey,

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Speaker 2: draft the best defensive player available pretty much in each

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Speaker 2: the offensive side of the football. And so the three

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Speaker 2: words that I keep coming back to James and Jeff,

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Speaker 2: they're not very long. I don't know. I don't have

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Speaker 2: a read on what Carly is going to do. I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure how she was going to handle this. Based

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Speaker 2: on what happened this year. You could easily say bring

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Speaker 2: everybody back, but that's ignoring the previous eight years when

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Speaker 2: it comes to Chris. And so we're gonna find out

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Speaker 2: come Monday morning. And again, if you're gonna make a move,

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Speaker 2: you need to be announcing that Sunday night or Monday

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Speaker 2: because if nothing, it's everybody go to the same page

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Speaker 2: and let's go. But the phrase I keep coming back

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Speaker 2: to is I don't know. I don't have a handle

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Speaker 2: as to how this situation is gonna play out.

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Speaker 1: How competitive you think to be against the Texans on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: I think they'll be competitive, because again, it's it's kind

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Speaker 2: of what they have been. You know that they have

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Speaker 2: not been in this you know, it's only they've just

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Speaker 2: been getting thumped. The closest thing to it was the Niners,

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Speaker 2: and even they got beat by three touchdowns. Frankly, they

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Speaker 2: Oh man, cloud nine fellas that montage was that was

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Speaker 1: Matt Taylor's the voice of the Indianapolis Colts, and every

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Speaker 2: championship for the first time since twenty fourteen. But since then,

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Speaker 2: the Colts have lost six straight games. The Jaguars and

434
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Speaker 2: Texans have combined to win fifteen straight games. And we

435
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Speaker 2: know the Colts unfortunately just the sixth team ever to

436
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Speaker 2: miss the playoffs after a seven and one start, but

437
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Speaker 2: a loss on Sunday would make even more history unfortunately.

438
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Speaker 2: That's why I think it's important for them to go

439
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Speaker 2: out and win. If the Colts lose to the Texans

440
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,479
Speaker 2: on Sunday, they become the first team in NFL history

441
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Speaker 2: to win seven of their first eight games and then

442
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Speaker 2: finish the season with a losing record. So again, that's

443
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Speaker 2: why it matters a world of difference between eight.

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Speaker 1: And nine and nine and eight.

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Speaker 2: If you're a player, if you're a coach, you're right,

446
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Speaker 2: despite the playoffs not being on the table. Heading in

447
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 2: the week eighteens, you gotta fight your tailoff. All right,

448
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 2: Let's talk about Riley Leonard his first start. Knowing the

449
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Speaker 2: importance of quarterback development for Riley Leonard, potentially needing him

450
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Speaker 2: early next season, you've got the uncertainty of the backup

451
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Speaker 2: quarterback of the future. The Colts are gonna go with

452
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Speaker 2: their rookie in week eighteen. Daniel Jones may not be well.

453
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Speaker 2: First he's got to re sign with the Colts, but

454
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Speaker 2: even then he may not be ready to go by

455
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Speaker 2: week one. So Leonard entered the season as the Colts

456
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Speaker 2: third quarterback behind Jones and Richardson. His last start came

457
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Speaker 2: against Ohio State last year in the College Football National

458
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Speaker 2: Championship National Championship Game. I should say, but he becomes

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Speaker 2: just the third teenth Colts rookie quarterback to start in

460
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Speaker 2: franchise history. He'll be the first since Anthony Richardson. Obviously,

461
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,439
Speaker 2: at twenty twenty three, Colts rookies are three to nine

462
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 2: in their first career starts. The last one to win

463
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 2: his debut Chris Chandler all the way back in nineteen

464
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Speaker 2: eighty eight, And anecdotally, he's going to be the just

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Speaker 2: the sixth Notre Dame rookie to start an NFL game.

466
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Speaker 2: The last Notre Dame rookie to win an NFL start

467
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Speaker 2: at quarterback was Jimmy Clawson, who beat the Cardinals nineteen

468
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Speaker 2: to twelve back in twenty ten as a member of

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Speaker 2: the Carolina Panthers. Also, how about this when it relates

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Speaker 2: to Riley Leonard. He is exactly twenty years and two

471
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Speaker 2: hundred and seventy nine days younger than the Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 2: That is the largest age gap between a team starting

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Speaker 2: quarterback in consecutive games since nineteen fifty. And again, his

474
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Speaker 2: first start in the NFL is going to be against

475
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Speaker 2: the NFL's number one scoring in total defense. Five previous

476
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 2: quarterbacks made their first career start against the NFL's top

477
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 2: scoring in total defense entering week four or later since

478
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Speaker 2: the nineteen seventy merger, and those five quarterbacks unfortunately went

479
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 2: zero to five and they led their teams to only

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Speaker 2: thirteen points per game. There are four passing touchdowns to

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Speaker 2: twelve interceptions combined. All right, then the last one here,

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about the Texans offense. Right the

483
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Speaker 2: defense for Houston, they get a lot of love, and

484
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Speaker 2: rightfully so, but let's talk about their timely offense. They're

485
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Speaker 2: not going to blow you away with their overall offensive output,

486
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Speaker 2: but their offense, they just make big plays when it matters.

487
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Speaker 2: And that's why I use the word timely because they're

488
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Speaker 2: only averaging twenty one points per game, which is the

489
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Speaker 2: fewest by a team with the winning record. This season,

490
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Speaker 2: they've only got thirty one offensive touchdowns, that's the fewest

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Speaker 2: by any team with at least eleven wins since the

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Speaker 2: twenty fourteen season, and they've also scored touchdowns on forty

493
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Speaker 2: five percent of the red zone drives this year that

494
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Speaker 2: rank thirtieth in the NFL. But their defense is so

495
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 2: good that it helps keep helps, it helps keep the

496
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Speaker 2: offense in games, and it gives them, you know, the

497
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Speaker 2: ability to make those timely plays and give them more

498
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Speaker 2: opportunities when the game is on the line, and just

499
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Speaker 2: doing some digging, the Texans magic number is twenty. They've

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Speaker 2: won fourteen straight games when they score twenty plus points

501
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Speaker 2: dating back to last year, including the playoffs, and this

502
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Speaker 2: year they are ten and er when they score at

503
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Speaker 2: least twenty points. And they are the only team in

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Speaker 2: the NFL to not lose a game when their offense

505
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Speaker 2: reaches at least twenty points. So that's all they need,

506
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Speaker 2: right Despite the up and down nature of the offense,

507
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 2: that defense is that good that lets them just keep

508
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Speaker 2: paying around and win close games. In fact, Houston is

509
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Speaker 2: six to oh in their last six one score games

510
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Speaker 2: after they started this season zero to five in close contests.

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Speaker 1: Always great stuff, Matt Taylor, you have been a busy,

512
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,959
Speaker 1: busy man. Now, I hope you weren't digging all that

513
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Speaker 1: stuff up during the Indiana game. He'll show you were

514
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Speaker 1: one hundred percent solely focused on that game, right, Well.

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Speaker 2: This was yeah, this was all stuff that was dug

516
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Speaker 2: up earlier. But yeah, I mean it was like around

517
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Speaker 2: eleven eleven thirty after I was coming down from that

518
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Speaker 2: high from the IU game, where I kind of put

519
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 2: it all together. So anything for you guys.

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Speaker 1: Hey, One other quick thing. I know you talked about

521
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Speaker 1: the history of quarterbacks in the position that Riley Leonard

522
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Speaker 1: finds himself in on Sunday. What do you think he's

523
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Speaker 1: capable of doing on Sunday? What's your gut feeling on

524
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Speaker 1: what he's able to do?

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Speaker 2: You know, I think he's going to be able to

526
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Speaker 2: do a lot, a lot more than people think, to

527
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Speaker 2: be honest with you, because he's been that dedicated to,

528
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Speaker 2: you know, being part of this offense. You know, first

529
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Speaker 2: guy in, last guy out, very much in the hip

530
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Speaker 2: pocket of Daniel Jones or in this case, in the

531
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Speaker 2: last three weeks Philip Rivers. And that's something I asked

532
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Speaker 2: Shane Stiken after that Jacksonville game about a month ago.

533
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Speaker 1: I said, what what what?

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Speaker 2: What are some of his limitations in terms of what

535
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 2: you can call And Shane he said, not much. I mean,

536
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 2: there's everything that we can put on his plate. We

537
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 2: have because he's pretty smart. He's got a high football IQ.

538
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Speaker 2: I mean obviously, you know, playing you know, going to

539
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: school at Duke and Notre Dame and then playing quarterback

540
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 2: at those institutions, you've got to be pretty adept. And

541
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Speaker 2: so you know, from an IQ standpoint and from a

542
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 2: playbook standpoint, everything's there. I think obviously the limitations in

543
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 2: his game right now physically he's got to find that, uh,

544
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 2: you know Sunday, you know, pinpoint accuracy that he's still

545
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 2: striving for. And I think he would probably tell you

546
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 2: that too. But he's definitely going to add some more

547
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Speaker 2: mobility within the offensive the quarterback position, and perhaps you know,

548
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: at least on paper, that unlocks you know, some more

549
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 2: efficient runs out of Jonathan Taylor, just because the Texans

550
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Speaker 2: with those two defensive ends and Hunter and Anderson, they're

551
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Speaker 2: going to have to at least respect the possibility of

552
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Speaker 2: a quarterback run, you know, a read zone or a

553
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 2: zone read I should say, a read option out of

554
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Speaker 2: the legs of Riley Leonard. So you know, we'll see.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I think the Colt's is going to

556
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Speaker 2: be hypothetically able to push the ball outside the numbers

557
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 2: in vertically a little bit more. Maybe a bigger game

558
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: for Pierce, who didn't have a catch last week against

559
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Speaker 2: in the last game, you know, against Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see.

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Speaker 2: But I think from a unloading of the playbook, if

562
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Speaker 2: you will, on Riley Leonard, everything's going to be right

563
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 2: there for him because he's a pretty smart guy that's

564
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 2: just been dedicated to getting better all season long, both

565
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 2: on the field and the meeting rooms for the Colts

566
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Speaker 2: inside that quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: All right, buddy, always good to talk to you. I

568
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Speaker 1: have a great game on Sunday, and we'll recap the

569
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Speaker 1: whole season with you sometime next week. Okay, all right, guys,

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Speaker 1: I look forward to it.

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Speaker 2: Thanks as always for everything all year and it's been fun.

572
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Speaker 2: One final ride on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Matt. We appreciate you being here

574
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Speaker 1: on the paylost lookers online. And I will tell you this,

575
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Speaker 1: that is a hard working young man. I mean he

576
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: works his tailoff getting ready for these games.

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Speaker 4: All young Oh he is. I guess he's relatively young.

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Speaker 4: Shout out to mate.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's relatively young to me these days. Jake Query had

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Speaker 1: one of the best social media posts last night after

581
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Speaker 1: the game. He just tweeted out Hoosier's Cream the Crimson. Ah,

582
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: see what you did there, Jake. It's good stuff right there.

583
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 3: As at dad joke ever, but it works. Maybe it worked.

584
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 3: All the jokes are funnier when you win. And also,

585
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 3: nice little troll job there from our Caleb Zuver.

586
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Speaker 1: Oh, he's all about the troll job.

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Speaker 4: Sweet home in Alabama.

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Speaker 6: They're at home right now, Daddy James. Come on, I

589
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 6: learned from the best. I learned from you. You gotta

590
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Speaker 6: be petty, right Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, I'll say you learned from Mark Dykon, who's also

592
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Speaker 3: from the Petty family. So justin out standing victory yesterday

593
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Speaker 3: in the Rolls Bowl, and what made it cooler to me,

594
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Speaker 3: Jeff was having it done on like that iconic stage.

595
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Speaker 3: I mean, everyone knows about the rose Ball. Everyone knows

596
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Speaker 3: how big of a deal it is to play there

597
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 3: and just the history of that venue, and so for

598
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Speaker 3: you to be having such a historic campaign sort of

599
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Speaker 3: not I can't even say captain that venue, but to

600
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Speaker 3: be elevated in that venue is really cool to see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think also in social media story are good

602
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Speaker 1: for Dominic Miranda of Channel thirteen tweeted out, Man, they

603
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: should just have the national championship game at the Rose

604
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Speaker 1: Bowl every year. That should just be like the permanent

605
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Speaker 1: national Championship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I do think there are more tweaks to be made

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Speaker 3: to the landscape of the collegeotball playoff, not necessarily like

609
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Speaker 3: the team sizes. I just mean, you know, Dan Lanning

610
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Speaker 3: has been pushing, hey, we should have these games, these

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Speaker 3: semi final games or quarterfinal games at home stown, the

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Speaker 3: actual campus, and I do think that would be really cool.

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Speaker 3: He even admitted, Hey, that means we would have been

614
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Speaker 3: going to Lubbic, Texas to play Texas Tech and what

615
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 3: I have really wanted that, know, but they earned that

616
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Speaker 3: with the way they were seated. So some tweaks to

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Speaker 3: be made, I'm sure in the future, but nevertheless, here,

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Speaker 3: right now, in the present, Indiana has the best football

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Speaker 3: team in the country and every time you think it

620
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Speaker 3: can't get much better, they just continue to impress. And boy,

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Speaker 3: I guess if there was ever a four warning, it

622
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Speaker 3: was basically when kurtz Signetti said they didn't have too

623
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Speaker 3: many good practices out there in California, and I was thinking, oh, boy, Alabama,

624
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Speaker 3: if this guy is saying that, it's probably not just

625
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 3: lip service, but he has a unique ability to get

626
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Speaker 3: a team's attention and for them to I can't say

627
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 3: rise to the occasion, because you don't really rise to

628
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 3: something that you're not prepared for. They're just there already

629
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Speaker 3: and they meet the moment because they do it every

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Speaker 3: day in practice, I would assume.

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Speaker 1: I also love the fact that Kurt Signetti he just

632
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:40,719
Speaker 1: looks like he ate a sour Patch kid at all times,

633
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Speaker 1: no matter what's going on.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say, but I never get sweeter. He

635
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 4: just gets mad the entire game.

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Speaker 1: He's got that he's got that look on his face

637
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna kill somebody in about three seconds. It's

638
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: the look that every kid sees on their father's face

639
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: when they've done something wrong, and it's there all the time.

640
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: I can't believe you just don't even look at me

641
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: right now, And it doesn't matter if they scored a touchdown,

642
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: if they got a big first down, if they just

643
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: converted a fourth and long, if they just picked off

644
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: a pass for a touchdown at a pick six. He

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Speaker 1: does not change expression.

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Speaker 6: I think it's a great point, Jeff, and I brought

647
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 6: up earlier about how the Indiana skill players are getting

648
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 6: their jerseys dirty being really physical and Alabama wasn't. And

649
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Speaker 6: obviously we've talked about how Indiana just in the trenches

650
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 6: is just such a different team, and those two things

651
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 6: are symbolic of the Signetti era. And the other thing

652
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 6: that I think is symbolic of this era is that

653
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 6: teams with a buy in the college Football Playoff when

654
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 6: it's expanded to twelve teams are one and seven. The

655
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 6: only team that's one is Indiana. And I really do

656
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 6: believe that Indiana is the no excuses program right now

657
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 6: in college football, and nobody embodies that more than their

658
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 6: head coach. And it just fits everything that he preaches everything,

659
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 6: and he talks about everything that he does so perfectly.

660
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 6: And I think James, you're right on that stage four

661
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 6: o'clock window on New Year's Day at the Rose Well

662
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 6: that's where you want to be. And I think if

663
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 6: there was anyone who was not a believer, which is

664
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 6: crazy to me, that you would still be that way.

665
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 6: They were convinced yesterday for sure.

666
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: You know, Nick Saban had said all his golfing buddies

667
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,719
Speaker 1: think that, and I will I'll clean it up for us.

668
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: But he had said on the pregame yesterday the fact

669
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: that all of his buddies just think that Alabama's going

670
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: to kick the blank out of Indiana. And I'm like,

671
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: those people have not been watching college football at long.

672
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: It's like Alabama's been great. Even in that winn over Oklahoma.

673
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: I don't know how much of that game you watched, James.

674
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: Even in the winno of Oklahoma in the first round,

675
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: they didn't Neither team look very good. Neither team looked

676
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: like they belong in the playoff in that one. By

677
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: the way, Paul the Millman also pointing out that yes,

678
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: IU is the first and only team to do it

679
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: coming off the buy and if they went out, they

680
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: will also be the only team to win sixteen games

681
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: ever in a college football season.

682
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 3: Boy. Yeah, And from a physicality standpoint, I guess the

683
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 3: buye is probably helpful in that regard because you don't

684
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 3: want to, you know, get too banged up. But I mean,

685
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 3: at that point, it got to a point where I

686
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 3: was thinking, how many backups can you put in? Because

687
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 3: this thing is ugly? And credit to their defensive line.

688
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 3: You know, we talked a lot about the Stephen dalen

689
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 3: daily injury and him being absent for this playoff run,

690
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 3: but I think that that is one of their deeper

691
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 3: units on the team, and they certainly got after the

692
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 3: Alabama quarterback Ty Simpson.

693
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: The only thing I didn't get to see yesterday that

694
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 1: I really wanted to see at the very end, although

695
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 1: I don't know how hard Indiana was trying, I would

696
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: have loved to see it. And Albertaman does a touchdown

697
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: throw that would have been so awesome. That would have

698
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: just been you want to talk about the sprinkle on

699
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: top of the cherry on top of the cake. That

700
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: would have been it right there, right, Yeah, for sure.

701
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: That So anyway, I you on their way now to

702
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: the semi finals. They'll play Oregon again. We'll talk about

703
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: that all week next week. But man, Dan Henning is

704
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: a great coach. Dan Lanning. I'm sorry, Dan Lanning. Dan

705
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: hitting an old NFL coach, Dan Lanning, a terrific, terrific coach.

706
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 1: They've got talent, they've got a quarterback. Although I didn't

707
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 1: think that that more looked particularly great yesterday. I always

708
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: get worried about playing a team two times in one

709
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: season if they're a good team.

710
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 3: And they are, they're a great team. They played Indiana

711
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 3: very tough in that game. It wasn't like what we've

712
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 3: seen from the last two performances from this IU team.

713
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 3: It felt that felt like more of the Big Ten

714
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 3: sort of championship game against Ohio State, where it's gona

715
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 3: grind it out game. You know who's gonna make the

716
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 3: big plays late. So perhaps that's another opportunity for Indiana

717
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 3: to win in that fashion. But they've won in a

718
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 3: variety of ways this year, and I don't see a

719
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 3: reason why they wouldn't be favored in that game. But

720
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 3: I'm excited for it. And you know, it's one of

721
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 3: those things where you can't fast forward just yet to

722
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 3: the future. But boy, these seven days they're going to

723
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 3: drag a little bit before we can get back on

724
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 3: here and talk about you know what's going on.

725
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they win that. Also, there were people tweeting

726
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: at us and texting us yesterday during the game. At

727
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: the very end, Josh and Mooresville says, Paul Finebaumb can

728
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: eat it. Everybody was looking for Paul Finebaum and what

729
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: Paul had to say about Alabama yesterday. He's probably all

730
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 1: up in his fields right now. And people were doing

731
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: this during the game early this morning when we first

732
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: got down here. Anonymous texter says, years down the road,

733
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 1: if you met a past IU football player you didn't

734
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: know and they told you they played for IU, wouldn't

735
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: your first question be before or after SIG came Because

736
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: playing for IU means two different things during those time periods.

737
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 1: Having played for IU during SIG means a lot. Having

738
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: played for IU a couple of years ago meant nothing.

739
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 1: Although I will say we did have a nice year

740
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 1: from Tom Allen. It was a fun year from Tom Allen.

741
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know it wasn't this. This is this

742
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 3: is different. So I am very excited for the future.

743
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so that's where we're at right now. On

744
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: Indiana and Kurt Signetti. But anyway, someone says, anybody check

745
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: on Finebaum or Saban Charles says, Iowa Oregon UCLA, Penn State,

746
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: Ohio State, Alabama undefeated season, first Big Ten title, first

747
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,959
Speaker 1: Rosebow title, all in one season, and somehow, some way,

748
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 1: all the so called sports analysts are going to kiss

749
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: the secs, but put the respect on the Hoosiers name

750
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: that's Charles check it in. They have clicked off twenty

751
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 1: again googling last night, and it's easy math. Kurtzignetti at

752
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,959
Speaker 1: Indiana is now twenty five and two.

753
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:48,479
Speaker 4: Is that good?

754
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. And they've beaten Ohio State, They've beaten Alabama,

755
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 1: They've beaten Oregon on the road, They've beaten Penn State

756
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: on the road, they beat Michigan, who was coming off

757
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: a national championship game last year. They just keep ticking

758
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: off the boxes.

759
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 3: James, Yeah, And I think at this point, if you're

760
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 3: not considering I you to be a real threat to

761
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 3: win a national championship as a number one ranked team

762
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 3: in the country, you're just a hater and I respect it.

763
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,959
Speaker 3: I mean, you stick to your hate and around these parts,

764
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 3: that's that's what I believe. You're gonna be a hater.

765
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 3: You gotta be a hater through and through. But at

766
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 3: the same time, I'm just not sure At the same time,

767
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 3: I'm just not sure how you cannot believe in this team.

768
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 3: They put it on tape for two years now, especially

769
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 3: this year, and they continue to win in variety of ways.

770
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 3: And the Heisman Trophy winner looks good, the defense looks.

771
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:36,959
Speaker 4: Great, coach is great.

772
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 3: And I loved a little fingergun he gave to Pat

773
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 3: McAfee after the game. It's kind of signal like, yeah,

774
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 3: we're coming yep.

775
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: And so that's where we're at the Indiana getting ready

776
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: for a semi final game against Oregon. It'll be a

777
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: rematch of a regular season game in which Fernando Mendoza

778
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: I thought, had one of his first real signature Heisman

779
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: Trophy moments. I still go back to how unflappable he

780
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: was in that Oregon game after he threw the pick six.

781
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: It is like, could never happened, James. He's just got

782
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: right back out there and started making plays and righted

783
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: the wrong and led his team to a to a

784
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: victory at Autin Stadium on the road. And I was

785
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 1: at that That was the moment for me. I was like, Okay,

786
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: we know this Indiana team is good, but maybe this

787
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: team's special. That was the moment I kind of first

788
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: took good distinction, this might be special. And then when

789
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 1: they got the comeback win and the incredible catch at

790
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: Penn State, I thought, now, not only is this team special,

791
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: but you know, every great team, every championship team, there's

792
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: a little fairy dust sprinkled on you somewhere along the

793
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: way right, and I thought that was their their kind

794
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: of fairy dust moment there where the luck and Lady

795
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: Luck was kind of shining on them.

796
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

797
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 3: The last thing I'll say real quick is in a

798
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 3: year of Indiana sports where it feels like you're just

799
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 3: waiting to exhale or or you have like that heartbreak

800
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 3: at the end when it comes to the Pacers and

801
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 3: the Fever and Purdue and the NCAA tournament, this team,

802
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 3: I don't get that feeling where I'm like nervous of

803
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 3: when the other shoe's gonna drop. I genuinely look at

804
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 3: them and think, this isn't like a Cinderella esque run

805
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 3: as much as it is a dominant run. Like, for example,

806
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 3: with the Pacers, it was like, boy, they're making shots

807
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 3: in the last second and Halliburton choose the jumper in

808
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 3: New York and it goes hot.

809
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 4: Sky high and he falls in.

810
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 3: Like that isn't happening with IU to this degree, and

811
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 3: they've had some moments like that, but I think a

812
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 3: lot of their big moments are just literally playing better

813
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 3: football and not having like a bounce to go their way.

814
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 3: I mean, you can look at the Omar Cooper junior

815
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 3: catch at Penn State, but that's also just a hell

816
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 3: of a catch. But beyond that, how many other moments

817
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 3: can we look at it and say, oh, this is

818
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 3: where they barely wanted. The football gods rewarded them. The

819
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 3: football guards are rewarding them because they're just beating the

820
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 3: crap out of people.

821
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again physically just dominating teams on the line

822
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, and that's been fun to watch. Again. They

823
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: will play a semi final game against Oregon. We'll be

824
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: talking about that all week next week. But I do

825
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: want to step in and celebrate what yesterday meant to

826
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: so many people who have been Indiana fans. I haven't

827
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: had a chance to talk to him yet, but one

828
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: of my really good friends behind the scenes at ESPN

829
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: that I've known for years and years, Jeff Martindell, who's

830
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: a really good friend of mine, grew up in Central Indiana,

831
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 1: Central and southern Indiana, went to Indiana, and even after

832
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: the Big Ten Talent title game, we were texting back

833
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: and forth. He goes, Dude, I literally have tears in

834
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: my eyes right now. What this means to the people

835
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: who've been lifelong hoo's your fans and grown up around

836
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: here loved sports. I don't even know how you quantify it.

837
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 4: James, you really can't. Honestly, I guess it's just a feeling.

838
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 3: I did have someone that I know personally over at

839
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 3: the game in the Rolls Bowl, and I'm sure they

840
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 3: had a great time.

841
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 4: And to kind of.

842
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 3: Explain to this, we have a message on the text line.

843
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 3: The question is, James, I'll do a lot of social media.

844
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 3: Can you explain the McAfee situation you were talking about?

845
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 3: So after the game, Pat McAfee, who was on the

846
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 3: ESPN set, posted a video of him looking over at

847
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 3: Kurt Signetti after they had won the Rose Bowl, and

848
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 3: Kurt Signetti turns and looks at him and kind of

849
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 3: points and does the little finger gun thing where he

850
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 3: like and then kind of winks like we got it done.

851
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 3: One of the cooler moments you've seen and honestly, I

852
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 3: think Kurt Signetti does a good job in moments like

853
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 3: that of balancing like the old angry curmudgeon that we

854
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 3: see on the sideline was also still acknowledging, Yeah, I

855
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 3: know what we're doing is cool. And he walks that

856
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 3: line I think better than most because the thing about

857
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 3: sports and what they're doing is like, you don't want

858
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 3: to get too high off of moments like this because

859
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 3: you you stuf to go play. But it was cool

860
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 3: to see him exhale and kind of just show that

861
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 3: he is human, he understands what he's doing is unprecedented.

862
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 3: And again giving that little nod, that little wink, that

863
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 3: little finger gun to Pat McAfee and Pat McAfee's you know,

864
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 3: flexing in the background. That was pretty cool to see.

865
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's the other thing about Signetti, and I'll compare

866
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: him to Nick Saban, and he's a Nick Saban protege.

867
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: Obviously was a wide receiver coach and recruiting coordinator for

868
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: Nick in the early years at Alabama. You know, Nick

869
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: Saban has you Does it ever feel like Nick Saban

870
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: was having any fun at all? Did it ever feel

871
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: like at the end of the day on his drive home,

872
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: he was like, man, that was a really good time.

873
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 4: Honestly.

874
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: No, But Kurt Signetti, I feel like under that there's

875
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: a little rise smile that he gets every day. And

876
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: then sure, I get the sense that when he drives

877
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 1: home and he's all by himself in that car with

878
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: his wife on the way home, like he's enjoying the

879
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: hell out of this ride, don't you think.

880
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 4: I mean he's earned it. Yeah, yeah, this crew has

881
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 4: earned it.

882
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: I just see that different. So it felt like Nick

883
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 1: Saban was never happy.

884
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you get it done in different ways.

885
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 3: I don't want to see here and act like, don't

886
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 3: get me wrong, dude, the dude is incredible.

887
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 4: He's to give a gold standard for college football.

888
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 3: But to see somebody else have this success this season

889
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 3: in their own way is pretty cool. And I guess

890
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 3: the best part for these airwaves is most of us

891
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 3: get to call him hours, which is just that just

892
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 3: hasn't been the case.

893
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: Again.

894
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 3: I'm waking up and I'm thinking, boy, I'm on the

895
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 3: twilight zone, but we're not. This is reality and they're

896
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 3: two weeks away, two or three weeks away from possibly

897
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 3: winning a national championship in football, not basketball, but football

898
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 3: at Indian University.

899
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: In football in football, as they like to say, Caleb

900
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: on the text lines, this Hu Calber's is a different case.

901
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: This is not me. No, all right, I didn't know

902
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: if you were trolling. Yeah, I use a three and

903
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: a half point favorite over Oregon right now. I think

904
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: Indiana would be a favorite over anybody right now.

905
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 4: I think so, yeah, most complete team in college football.

906
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: But three and a half points suggest that the bookies

907
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: they want to take a lot of money on both sides,

908
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 1: so they're they're guarant there. They're basically saying by setting

909
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: this at three and a half, we think a lot

910
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: of people are coming on Oregon.

911
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I don't blame them necessarily because that

912
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 3: was a close game in Oregon. I think is a

913
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 3: very good team, but they're not IU, so you know me,

914
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 3: I'm not picking against them again. I think I picked

915
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 3: against them in the Big Ten championship game.

916
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 4: That was dumb. They won by three.

917
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think after the Illinois beat down, there's

918
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 3: just not many programs I'm going to look at it

919
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 3: and say they have a chance to knock off IU.

920
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 3: And at this point, nah, I mean it's you've set

921
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 3: the standard of I don't want to say it's like

922
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 3: championship or bus because that would be disingenuous. But you've

923
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 3: set the expectation that this isn't just a feel good

924
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 3: story and we're fine with bowing out gracefully in the

925
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 3: next round of the Coagetball playoffs.

926
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no.

927
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 3: Indiana is on the inside track to winning it all,

928
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 3: which again sounds like I'm, you know, speaking gibberious if

929
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 3: you told me this ten months ago.

930
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: I just want to point out what this defense has

931
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: done all year long. We talked about Mendez as the

932
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy winner. We talk about Charlie Becker going up

933
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: and making that great catch yesterday, and some of the

934
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 1: big plays he's made in key moments here in the

935
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: last several games. We talk about Omar Cooper, even though

936
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: he's been injured, how effective and unstoppable he's been. I know,

937
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: in the first half of the season, James, you thought

938
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: Eliza Suratt could be a guy that could do win

939
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff. But let's talk about the defense.

940
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: And I'm not even going to talk about the first

941
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: four games that they're playing Old Dominion or Kennessas State

942
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: or Indiana State, whatever. But starting with the Big Ten schedule,

943
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: this is what the defense has allowed for points. Ten

944
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: to Illinois, fifteen to Iowa, twenty to Oregon, thirteen to

945
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: Michigan State, six to UCLA, ten to Maryland twenty four

946
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 1: to Penn State, seven to Wisconsin, three to Purdue, ten

947
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 1: to Ohio State three to Alabama. That's insane. That's insane.

948
00:46:58,440 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 4: A complete football team they gave.

949
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: They went into that game yesterday giving up an average

950
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: of less than eleven points a game, and they improved

951
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: on that against Alabama.

952
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 6: I think that's the takeaway. You look around college football.

953
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 6: You know, Miami and Ohio State have really good defenses,

954
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 6: but their offenses, even with some of the talent there,

955
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 6: it's like, I don't know, they're just not complete. Indiana

956
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 6: is a team they have different guys step up every

957
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 6: single game, and again that's just another characteristic of what

958
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 6: coach Signetti wants, in my opinion, from what he talks about,

959
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 6: and you just see it play out every time they

960
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 6: go out there. It's unbelievable.

961
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: Ohio State's the only team that held them under twenty

962
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: points this year. Think about that. Today's college football landscape,

963
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: it's all offense all the time.

964
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 3: I mean, we saw all last night defense the whole

965
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 3: missing in Georgia. It was kind of a shootout. And

966
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, I think Indiana can win those

967
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 3: types of games too, but defense is for real. And again,

968
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 3: they're without one of the best defensive linemen in the

969
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 3: country and Stephen Day. So the fact that they're doing

970
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 3: this without someone who I believe was probably what a

971
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 3: top five defensive interior defensive lineman in the country. That

972
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 3: speaks to how complete the team is and that next

973
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 3: man up mentality. All the cliches we hear, they're not

974
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 3: cliches without you. They're for real, which is again very fun.

975
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 3: And I think one of the greater joys that I've

976
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 3: gotten from personally is not being the Indiana guy and

977
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 3: obviously going to a different school and all of that

978
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 3: is hearing from so many that tell me all the

979
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 3: stories about watching the game with their father or grandma

980
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 3: or whoever and sticking it out when it was really

981
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 3: bad to now having this opportunity to finally flex your

982
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 3: muscle and be center stage. And again, it's not a

983
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 3: Cinderella story to me, it's more so just a dominant one.

984
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 4: They're Cinderella aspects of it.

985
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, but when I think of Cinderella runs,

986
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 3: I think of it as kind of being a little

987
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 3: bit fluky, where it's like, yeah, a bounce go your way,

988
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 3: or a call go your.

989
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: Way, or maybe you've got a great defense, but not

990
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: a g.

991
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 3: What bounces went their way against that team yesterday in Alabama,

992
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 3: they just bo raced them and beat them down. I

993
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 3: mean again, after the early three and out and in

994
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 3: their early field goal. Once they got rolling, that avalanche

995
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 3: didn't stop.

996
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: No, it didn't stop. And it's been fun to watch.

997
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: I also want to point out that while Indiana is

998
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 1: just a three and a half point favorite on a

999
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: neutral field, they did beat Oregon by double digits on

1000
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 1: the road in that game. I know it was closer

1001
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: than maybe the score would indicate, but it was a

1002
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: thirty to twenty score. It was a two score game

1003
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 1: that they beat Oregon in on the road at Audstin Stadium.

1004
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 1: Just I just want to remind you it's very true.

1005
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 6: It's a very good point. I have a question for

1006
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 6: you guys, are we a fan I know they had

1007
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 6: to change it up because of the weather, but are

1008
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 6: we a fan of flyovers to start the second half.

1009
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 6: I kind of liked that. I'm not even gone over anytime.

1010
00:49:58,160 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 2: I I.

1011
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like, I thought it was kind of cool to

1012
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 6: start the second half that way.

1013
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: I thought it was nice.

1014
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 3: I've hadn't experienced too many flyovers just covering things. I

1015
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 3: remember there was one I believe for the Anty five hundred.

1016
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken. That was pretty cool. So after experiencing

1017
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 3: it in person, I'm for it.

1018
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 6: I'm a cheap game had one this year, I thought, James.

1019
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what it is, I'm not outside

1020
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 3: to like experience, so that's the different.

1021
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 4: I was probably phrase it like that.

1022
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 3: I haven't been outside of the stadium or an outdoor

1023
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 3: those things to experience it. When I was at the

1024
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 3: inty five hundred, I had went out onto like little

1025
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 3: media balcony to see it, and that to me made

1026
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 3: it cooler than being in some press box where you

1027
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 3: can't really hear it or you know, or necessarily recognize

1028
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 3: the moment.

1029
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 4: So I was fine with it.

1030
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: There were some really cool photography shots of that flyover

1031
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: the Indy five hundred last year too, If you go

1032
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: back and look at that on social media many years ago.

1033
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 1: I did an air Force Navy football game. They do

1034
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: flyovers right at an air Force I hope, man man,

1035
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: but there's nothing better than a flyover at any time

1036
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: you can do it. You can do it between the

1037
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 1: third and fourth quarter. I'd take you flyover. I'm with

1038
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: you there, It's all good stuff. Let's check the text

1039
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 1: line real quick. Great Rakestraw coming up in just a moment. Here,

1040
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: Jeff with a jay says, we got how about that?

1041
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: Our last two texts from Caleb and Jeff will be

1042
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: looking for one from James soon. Here. Jeff with the

1043
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: Jay says, I was thinking that Pat McAfee and Kurtzignette

1044
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: video is before the game started and just as they

1045
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 1: were getting ready to run out onto the field, which

1046
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: makes it even better, Like, yeah, we got this. A

1047
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: lot of people want to talk about Notre Dame this

1048
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: morning too, Charles says. All the Notre Dame bleeders are shouting, see,

1049
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: Alabama didn't belong in, And I was thinking yesterday during

1050
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: that fourth quarter, Alabama didn't belong in. Neither did the

1051
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,919
Speaker 1: second Power five or not Power five. But the group

1052
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: of five school Notre Dame, you can't tell me they

1053
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: aren't actually one of the best six or seven football

1054
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: teams in the country. I'll die on that hill. I'm

1055
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: not even a big Notre Dame fan.

1056
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 4: That's a good point.

1057
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 3: And also going back to the video, Yeah, so I

1058
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 3: must have been confused. Pat McAfee posted his video of

1059
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 3: Kurt Signetti after they had won. After but if you

1060
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 3: look at the video and you see it, it does

1061
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 3: look like it's before the game, which makes it even

1062
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 3: cooler that he could. Basically, the little finger done is

1063
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 3: like you're calling your own child You're babe, ruth or.

1064
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 1: Something, which is right on brand though, isn't it.

1065
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1066
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 4: I mean, has he ever gone into it? Daunted? What's

1067
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 4: the saying?

1068
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: He's a guy that basically it's the old cliche say

1069
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: what you do and do what you say. That's Kurt Signetti.

1070
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 1: It ain't bragging if you can back it up right,

1071
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 1: That's the other thing they always say.

1072
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, definitely not. I mean, who's bragging now? I

1073
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 3: guess the bragging is we just win every game? Yeah literally.

1074
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: Indy Finisher says, can KB check his soft Notre Dame

1075
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 1: feelings at the door. He does realize Bloomington is the powerhouse, right,

1076
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Speaker 1: I told you months ago, But I'll say Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: would have given Eye You or Oregon a better game.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, that that message. I read that as well.

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Speaker 3: It like started off as like a shot at KB

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Speaker 3: and then in it with some respect toward Notre Dame.

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Speaker 4: Well, you gotta have you gotta have both got a

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Speaker 4: little balance in there.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly how it works with your buddies on the

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Speaker 1: golf course, right. I mean, you'll say nice things to them,

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Speaker 1: but it's always couched in a little dig there somewhere.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of how that works, all right. Greig Rakestraw

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Speaker 1: coming up in just a moment here. It's the day

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Speaker 1: after Indiana just Boat races Alabama, and we're here for

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Speaker 1: it and we'll celebrate it with Greg Rakestraw Next ninety

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Speaker 1: three to five and one of seven five of the

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Speaker 1: Fan