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Speaker 1: I was just selling fingers away before he went on,

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Speaker 1: it's been a day and this cold is really bothering me.

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Speaker 2: And when you have a cold and you're smoking cigars,

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Speaker 2: you can't catch all the flavors. It's even more annoying.

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Speaker 1: And then we looked at Bourban's and I said, no, no,

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Speaker 2: I'm going back to the well well a little bit

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Speaker 2: better than the well. I went to Costco, got myself

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Speaker 2: a hot dog and then pulled out my bottle of

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Speaker 2: bottled and boned.

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Speaker 1: Did he drink smoke?

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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz And that right there is America's favorite

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Speaker 2: amateur drinker, Fingers molloy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Fingers had the cold last week.

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Speaker 2: And so he grabbed himself some uh white peppermint or

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Speaker 2: some chocolate white chocolate peppermint eggnog?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Is he what?

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Speaker 2: He had himself right there, and he was happy. Man,

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Speaker 2: he was happy. But now he's here in studio. He

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Speaker 2: did not give me the cold. I got this independently,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, I can't, I can't. The nose is ridiculous,

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Speaker 2: it's it's it's stuffed yet it runs. Yet people don't

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Speaker 2: need to hear this. How are we not doing a

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Speaker 2: hot tottie?

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Speaker 1: I great question, great a full disclosure. I've never been

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Speaker 1: it's it's that just it's it's like tea. Do you

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Speaker 2: Now I can't say that in the South because I'll

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Speaker 1: So I just smile and say, oh, that's right now

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Speaker 2: And I come up with some excuse about why I

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Speaker 2: get thrown out of Georgia or Alabama. These are lovely

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Speaker 2: people and I love them, But I I couldn't. I

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Speaker 2: couldn't bring myself to open something new, something we hadn't

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I opened up my giant bottle of Kirkling signature bottled

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Speaker 2: in bond.

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Speaker 1: Look at this monster.

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Speaker 2: Right here, this glorious thing from Barton seventeen ninety two.

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Speaker 1: I actually found the mash bill I remember if we

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Speaker 1: had this last time we tried it.

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Speaker 2: Seventy four percent corn, eighteen percent rye eight percent malted

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Speaker 2: a barley right there, aged at least four years, and

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Speaker 2: of course one hundred proof because of its bottled and bond.

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Speaker 2: Always applause A light applause from fingers Fillway today.

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Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred proof, but it was it was very soft.

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Speaker 3: Say it's one hundred and forty proof, it's.

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Speaker 2: One hundred and ninety two proof. And then and then

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Speaker 2: we put it in a rocket ship. Yeah, I just

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Speaker 2: I couldn't bring myself to open up something new that

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Speaker 2: I thought this was a spectacular deal and that if

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Speaker 2: nose right now, fingers Billoy, I can't, no, I can't.

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Speaker 2: I have no capacity right now. As we've done the show,

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Speaker 2: the whole cold has now become a.

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Speaker 1: Human disaster area. I should be quarantined fingers billoy.

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Speaker 3: But you you do some nose while I sip on it,

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Speaker 3: have any taste a nice little bit of spice to it?

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Speaker 3: You get Karen caramel vanilla, you know, maybe a hint

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Speaker 3: But if you've got a friend that comes over and says, listen,

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Speaker 1: Did it? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Oh, nothing, says hey, do video while you're doing a podcast,

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Speaker 2: But no, the warmth that I remember and a little

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Speaker 3: So this is what what do you call that thing?

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Speaker 3: The dewey pot? What's the thing that you put in

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Speaker 3: your nose, said Nettie pot, A Nettie pot, a dewey pot,

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Speaker 2: Dewey of course, who lost the Fame election to Harry Truman.

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Speaker 1: That's who it's named after, the Dewey pot.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he said a dewey pot in every home, and

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Speaker 2: When you're taking that first step, you move the juice

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Speaker 1: Fingers, you're right.

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Speaker 3: You look a little paint. That's a nice little bit

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Speaker 3: of spice. It got a nice little sting on the tongue,

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Speaker 3: there's oak. It's it's it's it's nice, and it's a

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Speaker 2: Right now, remember seventy four percent corn, eighteen percent rye

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Speaker 1: And and it was. It was twenty five dollars, thirty

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Speaker 2: That's a crazy deal in a world of no crazy deals.

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Speaker 2: Liquor store going out of business. Oh and so they

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Speaker 2: they were putting things on sale. I picked up eight bottles,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't figure out why they just wouldn't put the

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Speaker 2: does it moves it motivates people. So I guess they

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Speaker 1: Maybe I introduced some more people to the place.

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Speaker 3: So did you get anything different that you'd never tried before?

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Speaker 2: Or oh yeah, oh nice? Seven of them. Seven of

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Speaker 2: have one angel's envy that I believe is like triple oaked.

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Speaker 1: I believe that's what it was. Well, I just realized something.

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Speaker 1: What did you realize?

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Speaker 3: I know that you are having a difficult time today

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Speaker 3: call radio tease ladies.

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Speaker 1: Is that what they call that? Yes, I wasn't aware.

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Speaker 1: We will get to that in a little bit, but

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Speaker 2: Idea the price of the Belgian blue from ground Head.

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Speaker 3: I'll be interested to know what the price point is

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm gonna go for maybe.

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Speaker 2: Oh, right there, as we're smoking the Belgian Blue from

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Speaker 2: Crowned Heads five and a half by fifty six Mexicans

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Speaker 1: There are still deals to be had on bourbon.

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Speaker 2: And as you know it being Christmas, this is the

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Speaker 1: There are some good.

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Speaker 3: Ones for sure, especially at grocery stores. Unless you're being

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Speaker 1: You to switch your service. That's still happening. Yes, and

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Speaker 1: rhymes with Kroger. Yes, okay, Kroger. We'll get into it.

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Speaker 2: So I want to make sure we're all clear about

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Speaker 1: Eat drink smoke. It is eat drink smoke.

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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz and that is America's favorite amateur drinker.

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Speaker 2: Fingers maloy. When we recorded this week, it was quite

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Speaker 2: their fingers? One way, if we had the contents of

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Speaker 2: the speech, because it's something that would be discussed in

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Speaker 1: Fingers Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And we could sit here and wildly speculate, but what's

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Speaker 3: the point. Literally the speech is going to happen in

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Speaker 2: So if so, if it's the Venezuela conversation, and I

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Speaker 2: we'll do this little bit of speculation. Understand that we

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Speaker 2: right now have eleven warships and fifteen thousand troops in

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Speaker 2: the Caribbean.

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Speaker 1: We have been shooting at these drug boats. We can

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Speaker 1: at least agree they are not fishing boats.

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Speaker 2: This is a conversation about whether or not we want

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Speaker 2: Say, I have to make these decisive of actions. I'm

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Speaker 3: Well, but what is consistent is the opposition party always

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Speaker 2: Not knowing what the President would say. The conversation is

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Speaker 1: Have to do. But there's also the seizing of oil tankers.

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Speaker 2: If it costs the Venezuelans, as is reported, two hundred

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Speaker 3: So we're gonna find out tonight what he's gonna say,

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Speaker 2: All the thing it could be about is the economy,

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Speaker 1: But you can't sell people on that right now. You

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Speaker 2: They never did that. They're only starting to do that

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Speaker 1: Absolutely? And yeah, you have to show empathy.

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Speaker 3: I go back to the election presidential election nineteen ninety two,

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Speaker 2: Oh legitimately, so they're worried about AI, They're worried about

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Speaker 2: the rising costs. Now, we should be perfectly clear. I

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Speaker 1: As we're talking per barrel.

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Speaker 2: In the West Texas crew so that's the oil that

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Speaker 1: Both were under sixty dollars a barrel. Well.

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Speaker 2: At the same time, silver was at sixty four dollars

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Speaker 3: And a lot of people in the country today don't

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Speaker 1: And I think that the.

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Speaker 2: I would argue, again not getting into the politics of it,

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Speaker 1: Like that's my take.

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Speaker 2: I know you guys know I reside on the political right,

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Speaker 1: But you would think gas prices coming down would be something.

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Speaker 2: Because if that's the barrel price, you'll see the gas

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Speaker 1: Right, it's the gas prices are trailing in the game.

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Speaker 3: You would think that would be a hot damn unless

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Speaker 1: Dude, you are mister buzz Killington. You really are.

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Speaker 2: So we don't know what the speech was because we

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Speaker 1: If we got it right, send us a cookie because

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Speaker 2: From the guys at eat a drink smoke. So, because

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Speaker 2: I have a cold, I didn't go fancy on the bourbon.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even move it to a rock. I have

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Speaker 2: the cold. It's just it wasn't no and it's not

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Speaker 2: we haven't seen each other in two weeks. It's just

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Speaker 1: Have had a little trouble.

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Speaker 2: Keeping it lit me with my cold and putting it

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Speaker 2: You referred to it as hefty. I think that's not

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Speaker 2: a bad way to put it.

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Speaker 1: Stocky, I said, Stocky is what you said?

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Speaker 2: Yes, Fingers molloy, this is a five and a half

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Speaker 2: by fifty six Mexican San Andreas rapper.

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Speaker 1: You are now into the final third, oh, no.

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Speaker 2: Second third of that cigar? Is this in your not

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Speaker 2: For thirteen dollars and fifty cents MSRP. Yes, yeah, Listen,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to smoke it again because you can't

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Speaker 1: With a cold. But what I it's it's.

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Speaker 2: Been a while, right, We've been doing the show for

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Speaker 2: an hour and a half and so, and I'm still

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Speaker 2: little bit of it.

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Speaker 1: There is there is a richness of play. I think

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Speaker 2: The cold, it would come across much more full body.

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Speaker 2: For me, I feel much more of it. So I'm

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Speaker 2: and Crown Heads is very very real. This plays I

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Speaker 1: On medicine line. The only question that I ask you.

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Speaker 2: Fingers and thirteen fifty for a five and a half

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Speaker 1: I don't know, five and a half ing You're like, well,

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Speaker 1: and it's a box press.

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Speaker 2: Are you down for annual releases or are you somebody

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Speaker 1: No? I like annual releases. I like to try new things.

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Speaker 3: The only thing that's disappointing about annual releases is if

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Speaker 1: That's the only problem.

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Speaker 1: Their once a year cigar.

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Speaker 2: Everybody could have one, and they do the Year of

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Speaker 2: that and we and we create better experiences to that,

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Speaker 2: and it has really kind of hit me as a

440
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Speaker 2: question of marketing of what is it that we're trying

441
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 2: to get accomplished here. I don't want John Huber and

442
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,640
Speaker 2: Crowdheads to stop making cool stuff.

443
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 1: I'm desperate for them to make cool stuff. But now

444
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,919
Speaker 1: you got so many things, doesn't it become exhausting?

445
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 3: Well, my question to you is, because you know I've

446
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 3: said this on several occasions, I am a cigar fan.

447
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 3: You have a real passion for cigars. It goes well

448
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 3: beyond my feelings towards them and the rational Yeah, have

449
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 3: you seen an annual release from a brand that ends

450
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 3: up becoming a core part of a brand.

451
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Speaker 1: That's a great question you can think about the top

452
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Speaker 1: of your head. Off the top of my head, I can't.

453
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,439
Speaker 2: I can't think of anything that was an annual release

454
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 2: and then now something they do.

455
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 1: Although I'm sure there are plenty.

456
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Speaker 2: People be like, oh, yeah, here's the list, but you know,

457
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 2: I'm sure that it's out there, but it's it's maybe

458
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it right. Does the consumer feel that, Okay,

459
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 2: now you're just trying to. Now you're just trying to

460
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 2: screw me. Now you're just trying to You're just throwing

461
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 2: something out there. You're giving it a special name. You're saying, oh,

462
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 2: look at this, But it's not special. It's it's it's whatever.

463
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 2: It's not different. It's it's unfair what you're doing here.

464
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 2: It's not a way to treat the consumer who wants

465
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Speaker 2: to create a long time relationship and value.

466
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Speaker 3: I think you see a lot of people that just

467
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 3: want to try new things, and they get excited when

468
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,919
Speaker 3: they see just like with Bourbon right, you got you

469
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 3: got a new limited release run from a distiller y

470
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 3: and you're like, oh, you know what, I want to

471
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 3: get my hands on it. But then there is that

472
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 3: feeling afterwards if you really like it, like oh, this

473
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 3: is disappointing.

474
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 1: I can't get this anymore. Should that be the name

475
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: of our cigar Bread limited release? Yes, it's disappointing.

476
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 2: Uh, it's I just I wonder if it gets to

477
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 2: people sometimes, because maybe it's it's personal.

478
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Speaker 1: It gets to me a little bit like, come on,

479
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 1: what are we doing here? Listen. I I've got I've

480
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 1: got nothing but good things to say about Artoral Fun Day.

481
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: But dear Lord, now I must say I have a.

482
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 2: Whole theory about our Trio Fun Day where they've got

483
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 2: the new factory and they're putting things out left and right.

484
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 2: You want my theory on Arto Fun Day. Everybody wants

485
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 2: my Arturnal Fun Day theory?

486
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Speaker 1: Please.

487
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Speaker 2: I I don't know Carlito, I don't know the the family.

488
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 2: I have nothing but respect it. I would love to

489
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 2: have this conversation with them. I'll fly them out to

490
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 2: Indianapolis offline, out to wherever they are no problem.

491
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 1: I believe what you're gonna see from pointe.

492
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 2: Is the biggest full court press in cigar lounges that

493
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 2: you have ever seen.

494
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: And they are going to try and take the shelves.

495
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: We've got fifty facings. We've got this wrapper, that wrapper,

496
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 1: that wrapper.

497
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Speaker 2: We've got the special things over here with the and diejos.

498
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,479
Speaker 2: We've got this here with the rare pinks. We've got

499
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 2: the opus over here. We've got the special things over here,

500
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: the thing we do with open society over there. They're

501
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 2: gonna take the humid or and they're gonna place into

502
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 2: price points from the five dollars to the fifty five

503
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 2: to the one.

504
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Speaker 1: Hundred and fifty five and cover the gamut.

505
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 2: And they're gonna say, we control cigars, not just in

506
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Speaker 2: the US boom, mess with us.

507
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 1: And I wonder if I was a be. I wonder

508
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: if A if that's true, and B was the impetus

509
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: to that. What Placentia did.

510
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 2: Placentia was the people making cigars for others, and they

511
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 2: had the farms and they were growing the tobacco, and

512
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 2: then they started saying, well, this is our tobacco.

513
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: No, it is really good tobacco. No, no, no, we'll

514
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 1: keep that here. We'll make this over there.

515
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 2: And then they come up with a line of cigars

516
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 2: that are exceptionally good.

517
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: Not good, exceptionally good.

518
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 2: Dear lord, Placentia makes some excellent stuff.

519
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: Uh, the fifty one Cosekas. I adore those out of Honduras.

520
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 1: They're great.

521
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 2: Holy crap, Holy crap. So I wonder if they looked

522
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 2: at that where they're like.

523
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: We could just control this. Why why are we rolling

524
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: for other people? We'll just roll for us.

525
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 3: I'm not even mad at them. I think that's what

526
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 3: Funda is doing. Okay, we agree that's not good, right.

527
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: I don't know.

528
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 2: Now you can argue because it's it's so much control

529
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 2: under one group. I'm not saying that other cigars won't exist.

530
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 2: I am saying that I think that's what they're doing.

531
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: Is it good? And this is an ect we're free marketers,

532
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: so no, but yeah, I mean, and this isn't a

533
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 1: criticism of our turff Wente.

534
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 3: It's just if you are someone that likes to go

535
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 3: into a lounge and see a wide variety and then

536
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 3: all of a sudden other brands are getting muscled out,

537
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 3: is that good for the consumer.

538
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 2: No, you and I would both agree that's not good

539
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 2: for the consumer, and it would be a real problem

540
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 2: if our turf whate wasn't making something you really liked,

541
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 2: because they do they. If you look at my human

542
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 2: right now, I have got a shelf of nothing but

543
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 2: angel Share.

544
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Speaker 1: You're welcome. I have got some very very good stuff

545
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: in there.

546
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Speaker 2: I'm just saying that I think that's the move that

547
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 2: they're making, and I do think it's going to have

548
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 2: some effects on smaller guys not being able to find

549
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 2: the shelf space that they were.

550
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Speaker 1: Able to prior as soon as twenty twenty six. I'm

551
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Speaker 1: petting there. Yeah, I watch for it, see if I'm right.

552
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 2: We got so into our conversation about our tour one day,

553
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 2: and you can catch even more of it as we

554
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: were talking after uh we went to break and we

555
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 2: covered it there on the video and if you find

556
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 2: all our videos on YouTube YouTube dot com slash Eat

557
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 2: Drink Smoke, you'll see everything that we do. It is

558
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: eat Drink Smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That is Fingers molloy,

559
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 2: Christmas right around the corner. Fingers very excited, very ready,

560
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: It's gonna be joyous.

561
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: Are you are you ready.

562
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 3: I am accept I was hoping we were gonna have

563
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 3: a white Christmas here in central Indiana. And I think

564
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 3: the forecast next week it's gonna be seventy five degrees.

565
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: It's gonna be sixty.

566
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 2: It's gonna be sixty in Indianapolis, where we are razy,

567
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 2: totally ridiculous. But because we were so into the conversation

568
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 2: about one day, it is time now for news of

569
00:27:59,119 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 2: the week.

570
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: Well, let's stick with the Christmas theme, Tony. People are out.

571
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, ho ho ho. There is a Christmas tree

572
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 3: farm in New Jersey, White Cough's Christmas Tree Farm in there.

573
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 3: Many times they're dubbed New Jersey's Original colored Tree Farm.

574
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 3: They are selling nine different colored Christmas trees. These are

575
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 3: real trees. The colors are pink, purple, dark blue, light blue, turquoise, magenta, red,

576
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 3: and black. Per the sight, Tony, And if you look

577
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: at these pictures, who yeah, I mean some of these

578
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 3: one looks very much like Honolulu Blue, Tony, which I high.

579
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: Flying, so high flying Detroit line.

580
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 3: Yes, the not playoff bound Detroit line yet, but the

581
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 3: season is not over.

582
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: Look at you to the end to.

583
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 3: The and indeed, uh so the way that they they

584
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 3: they color these trees, they grow them right on the

585
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 3: farm and them and then they paint them what they

586
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 3: what they believe is safe, with a fireproof Latex based

587
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 3: paint specifically formulated for Christmas trees.

588
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,719
Speaker 1: So I know, Uh, have you ever had a Christmas

589
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: tree in the house ever? No? No, Being Jewish, I

590
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: never had a Christmas tree. Sometimes people I know.

591
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 2: I know, and sometimes they refer to it as a

592
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 2: hunka bush and uh. And I just want to say,

593
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: for the record, I think people could do anything they want,

594
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: even if they're wrong, and so so they If that's

595
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: what you want to do, you go ahead and.

596
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: You can do it.

597
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: But being as you know, a Christmas tree purest right there,

598
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 2: this is an abomination before the Lord, I said it,

599
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: decorate your Christmas tree. And oh, by the way, lights

600
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: outside white and white twinkling, none of this giant bulb

601
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 2: color lights nonsense. It looks cheap and ridiculous and tawdrey.

602
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: I set, I really want people to hate me, donut.

603
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: Where can everyone get in touch with you? I believe

604
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: you can email me if you would like to email

605
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: the podcast at Ben Shapiro at yahoo dot com. Is

606
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: where you can get in touch with the podcast right there.

607
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: I'm amazed at some of these trends. Now.

608
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 3: Back in the early nineties, Tony, I used to work

609
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 3: for a pool and patio store. If you ever needed

610
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 3: to buy some patio furniture, you'd come to Old Fingers More.

611
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: If I needed to adjust the pH.

612
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 3: Yes, I would sell a test kit where you could

613
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 3: find out if you had your finger over.

614
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: It and yes, shake it. Yes, you see where the

615
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: color matches up like a polaroid picture. Right, that's how

616
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: I shake it, shaking it right now.

617
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 3: Well, after pool season was over, we switched over to

618
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 3: a Christmas tree store and we would sell artificial trees.

619
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Speaker 3: And in the early nineties there was this trend for

620
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 3: a little while with silvertree, the silver tree and black

621
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 3: Christmas trees, and people would hang them upside down from

622
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 3: the ceiling. But yes, you heard me. They would hang

623
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 3: their Christmas trees, mount the tree upside down on the

624
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 3: ceiling and have it hanging from the ceiling in the

625
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 3: early nineties. And that's exactly what my reaction was. What

626
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 3: and then they pulled out their charge plate and I said,

627
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 3: do you want to so by the way charge plate

628
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 3: we had the machine exactly how old?

629
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Speaker 1: All right?

630
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 2: So this was the It was a punka metal right,

631
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: that was maybe a foot and a half long, and

632
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 2: it had the name of the store on and a number.

633
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: And then you'd put the credit card in a spot

634
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: and there were these carbon duplicate forms and you'd put

635
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: it on there and you'd run it over and so

636
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: I got the card number and then you'd fill in

637
00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: the amount. And that's how I used to do credit

638
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: card back in the in the day.

639
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 3: They would hand me their diners Club I would do

640
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: the like that. It was also accepted JCB, that's true,

641
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 3: but that's what they would do. So hanging Christmas trees

642
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 3: upside down the sea like Christmas or that'd be silag tight.

643
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: I don't know.

644
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 3: You tell me tomato tomato, So I guess this is uh.

645
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 3: You know, people are always looking for new and interesting things.

646
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 3: I've never had a real tree.

647
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: Always.

648
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 3: We've had the same artificial Christmas tree now for twenty

649
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 3: five years. And now it's getting to the point where

650
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 3: it's like, okay, it's it's it's time. The kids don't

651
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 3: want us to get rid of it, but it's it's time.

652
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,479
Speaker 3: But I don't think I'm going to run out and

653
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 3: get a blue tree.

654
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: I did have.

655
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Speaker 3: I did get a white tree when I was in

656
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 3: my my early twenties. Had Honolulu blue tinsel, Honolulu blue ornaments,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, yeah, tragically took his own life. Horrible story.

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Speaker 2: All right, full disclosure. I never watched the show. Wow, really,

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Speaker 3: I'm not a huge sitcom guy. I love that show. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 3: It was one of my favorite shows. And it was

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Speaker 3: went into the early two thousands. It was nine seasons

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Speaker 1: Is why they said they'll never do a remake. And

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Speaker 1: they're right, so, I mean, the money would be huge,

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Speaker 1: but some things you just leave me.

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Speaker 2: You just like, no, it's an you can't make it right,

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Speaker 2: you can't do the thing. I'm sorry about the cold, everybody.

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Speaker 2: It keeps me from new doing a bourbon review. Well

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Speaker 2: that's why we pulled back out the Kirkling bottled in

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you.

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Speaker 2: It's an incredible deal. If you could still find it,

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Speaker 2: It'll come out again next year. As for this, the

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Speaker 2: Belgian Blue from Crowned Heads thirteen dollars and fifty cents

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Speaker 2: of stick with that Mexican's headreas rapper fingers is.

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Speaker 1: A yes at thirteen fifty. I'm a yes for you

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Speaker 1: trying it. I have to try it again without a cold,

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Speaker 1: just to see where I'm at. I haven't smoking yet.

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Speaker 1: I can get a little bit out of it. But man,

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Speaker 1: stuff he knows makes it all all really impossible. He'll

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Speaker 1: be a yes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably the Belgian Blue from Crownheads.

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Speaker 1: Have a merry little Christmas.

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