1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Line from vall Hartbeyer and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: Star witness, January sixth Committee, their star witness in one 4 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: of those staged and choreographed hearings they paid the former president. 5 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 3: Of ABC News to put together. 6 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 2: She was, in fact the only witness at this special 7 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 2: prime time hearing Tuesday, June twenty eighth, twenty twenty two, 8 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: eight o'clock in the evening. 9 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 3: And she told some stories. I mean, these were these 10 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 3: were some stories she. 11 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: Talked about President lunged across the backseat, grabbed the steering wheel, 12 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: tried to drive the car to the Capitol. 13 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 3: And I just want to know you think she was. 14 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 4: Lying, Chairman Jordan, My assessment of that particular issue is that, 15 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 4: with respect to the testimony about someone of the president 16 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 4: lunging towards the driver, my recollection of her testimony about 17 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 4: that is that it was secondhand. She said she'd heard 18 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 4: that from somebody. 19 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 3: You familiar with the name Tony Ornado. I'm sorry, do 20 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 3: you familiar with the name Tony Ornado? Yes, White House. 21 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 2: Deputy Chief of Operations, Deputy chief of staff for Operations, right, 22 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 2: you remember what he said about it? As I said 23 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 2: here right now, I do not Yeah, he said it 24 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: didn't happen. 25 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 5: That is Congressman Jim Jordan grilling Jack Smith, the special 26 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,639 Speaker 5: counsel who was looking into Donald Trump, who was looking 27 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 5: to find a way to keep him from running for 28 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 5: president and winning and being the forty seventh president of 29 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 5: the United States. It's oh, kamalo is so upset, Tony Katz, 30 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 5: Tony kats today. Good to be here, Good to be 31 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 5: with you. Cigar in hand, Ready to go streaming on YouTube. 32 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 5: Join the chat YouTube dot com. Tony Katz subscribe. I'd 33 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 5: greatly appreciate it. While the term witch hunt, I think 34 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 5: is a term of oftentimes cheapness, it is obvious to 35 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 5: anyone that the lawfair that was put in place to 36 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 5: keep Donald Trump from running for president, never mind winning 37 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 5: the presidency, was massive. 38 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 6: It was a mountain to climb, It was. 39 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 5: Purposeful in its duplicitousness, and that it failed is a 40 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 5: testament to the fact that Trump will walk through anything, 41 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 5: and it's why many people vote for him. 42 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 6: But in this discussion with Jack Smith. 43 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 5: Testifying in front of the House Judiciary Committee, Jim Jordan 44 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 5: is the chairman of that committee, the conversation is about 45 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 5: Cassidy Hutchinson. Cassidy Hutchinson was an assistant to Chief of 46 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 5: Staff Mark Meadows during the first Trump administration, and in 47 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 5: this testimony in twenty twenty two, she said about Trump 48 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 5: that his conduct was out of control, and yes, that 49 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 5: he tried to grab the steering wheel and forced the 50 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 5: driver to head to the Capitol so he can be 51 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 5: part of the protest. Now, I don't know about you. 52 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 5: I have never ridden in the beast before. That's the 53 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 5: President's limo, but I've seen it. How does the president 54 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,119 Speaker 5: reach over to the driver? How does how does any 55 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 5: of that work? Never mind? Never mind? I don't claim 56 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 5: to be an expert on armored limousines. I am, however, 57 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 5: someone who is pretty adept at saying as representative Jordan explained, 58 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 5: so well, this made for TV events where they hired 59 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 5: a television showrunner to produce these primetime hearings about January sixth, 60 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 5: so they could set a narrative without any rebuttal regarding 61 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 5: what happened, so they never have to engage the culpability 62 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 5: of someone like Nancy Pelosi. And where was the National 63 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 5: Guard that turning down of help from President Trump before 64 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 5: this happened? Now, remember we should be clear. I don't 65 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 5: leave Trump totally out on this subject. I put forth 66 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 5: to you that it absolutely was not an insurrection. 67 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 6: It was not. 68 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 5: But when the vice president of the United States is 69 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 5: in trouble, you should have sent everybody at your disposal 70 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 5: to go get them. There was nothing acceptable about leaving 71 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 5: him there. It was unknown what the situation was at 72 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 5: the time. And I said then and I still say 73 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 5: it now. 74 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 6: He should have sent everybody to go get him one 75 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 6: thousand percent. 76 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 5: But what happened next in terms of the January sixth Committee, 77 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 5: in terms of these so called hearings, this was made 78 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 5: for TV nonsense, This was provda, this was gross. 79 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 6: And now. 80 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 5: After all those prosecutions failed, whether that be by their 81 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 5: own implosion like Fawnie Willis in Georgia, or by Supreme 82 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 5: Court making decisions and therefore saying well, I can't move 83 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 5: any more forward. 84 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 6: Here we now have. 85 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 5: Jack Smith in front of the committee and Jim Jordan, 86 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 5: I think, really waiting for this moment. 87 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 3: How about Bobby Engle, you premire with that name. 88 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 2: Yes, I am Secret Service agent who was actually in 89 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 2: the car that day. 90 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 3: You know what he said? 91 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: He said, It didn't happen, And they both said the 92 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 2: first time they ever heard this story was when miss 93 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: Hutchinson testified in the prime time hearing as their star 94 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: witness of the January sixth committee. By the way, do 95 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: you ever confirm her testimony about this particular incident? 96 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 4: We conducted, as I said before, our own independent investigation 97 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 4: of all aspects of the case that we thought was relevant. 98 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 4: We attorneys from my office. 99 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 3: Did you ever confirm it? That's a simple question. 100 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 4: Well, we interviewed her, I should say, attorneys in my office. 101 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 2: Bill, do you ever confirm the president leaping across the seat, 102 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: grabbing the steering wheel, this whole concoction she brought up 103 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 2: in the January sixth hearing, Do you ever confirm. 104 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 4: That we interviewed another firsthand witness who was in the 105 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 4: car who did not confirm that that could happen. 106 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: But also your deposition to the committee last month, mister Smith, 107 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: you said this my recollection with miss Hutchinson was a 108 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: number of the things that she gave evidence on were 109 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: secondhand hearsay, your remembers making that statement to us last 110 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 2: month in the deposition. 111 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 4: I did, and I was referring particularly to what we're 112 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 4: talking about now. 113 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, And you also said miss Hutchinson, regarding this particular claim, 114 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: was a second or even. 115 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 3: Third hand witness. 116 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 2: We ask you, if you were a defense attorney, how 117 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: would you handle cross examining her if she was on 118 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: the witness stand? And you said, if I were a 119 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: defense attorney, miss Hutchinson were a witness, the first thing I. 120 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 3: Would do was seek to preclude. 121 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: Her testimony because it was here say you remember saying 122 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 2: all that. 123 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 3: Yes, that's correct, So that's correct? Right? Were you going 124 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 3: to put her on the witness stand if you ever 125 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 3: got to trial. 126 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 4: We had not made final determinations as to who we 127 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 4: were going to call as a witness. 128 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 3: We had a large still considering her. 129 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 4: We had a large choice of witnesses in this. 130 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: Are you familiar what Washington Post reporters Carol Lenning and 131 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 2: Aaron Davis said in their book? They did his book 132 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: three hundreds on pages book on chronicle and the whole 133 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: investigation of the Justice Department, And. 134 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 3: Here's what they said. 135 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: On page three to ten, they said Jack Smith had 136 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: wondered whether some of Hutchinson's claims might be relied upon 137 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: a trial. 138 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 3: Still. At one point, Smith told the elections. 139 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: Team he wasn't ready to give up on Hutchinson's account. Ultimately, however, 140 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 2: Trump administration officials uniformly fiercely disputed her accounts under oath. 141 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 2: Prosecutors on your team told Smith they wouldn't want to 142 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 2: use Hutchinson as a witness in court, and Smith agreed. 143 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: Are Carol Lenning and Aaron Davis who wrote this or they, Lion. 144 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 6: I don't even want to hear the rest. The grilling 145 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 6: was brutal and rightfully, so. 146 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 5: There is no question to me, although you can say 147 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 5: there's a question to you. 148 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 4: Back. 149 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 5: Smith went in with a goal, how do I get Trump? 150 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 5: It was Labnery Buria, show me the man, and I'll 151 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 5: show you the crime. This was his modus operendi, And 152 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 5: this was the modus operendi. 153 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 6: I believe the Democratic Party. 154 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 5: He wants to say, and he has said that the 155 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 5: Biden team did not pressure him. I don't believe he 156 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 5: had to be pressured. I believe he wanted to do it. 157 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 5: This brings us to the questioning from Congressman darryl Isa 158 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 5: of California. 159 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 7: Just hold that information from an Article three judge in 160 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:40,479 Speaker 7: the process of taking the records of the Speaker. 161 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 5: Of the House, we complied with the did you hold 162 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 5: mister Sherman, would you please instruct the gentleman to allow 163 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 5: the witness to answer the question. 164 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 3: It's not your time. I'd like my time back, mister Treman. 165 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 6: You have repeatedly done that in the past. 166 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 3: That witness has the right to answer. 167 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 7: The quests are angry and there'll be due time to 168 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 7: answer the question. Would you please put my time back 169 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 7: and let me finish this. Mister Smith, I asked you 170 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 7: a question and you were not responsive to it, and 171 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 7: I want you to be responsive to it. Did you 172 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 7: whether you think it was legal or not, whether you 173 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 7: think it was right or not? Did you withhold the 174 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 7: name of Kevin McCarthy, Speaker of the House when you 175 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 7: were seeking records on Kevin McCarthy, the Speaker of the 176 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 7: House or Jim Jordan, the chairman of this committee at 177 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 7: the time. 178 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 2: The gentleman is no, please get it back to time 179 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 2: and would take it away. Time is expired, but we're 180 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 2: going to let the witness answer your question because it's 181 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: important question. 182 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 3: The wins can respond. 183 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 4: We did not provide that information to the judge when 184 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 4: we requested a non disclosure order, consistent with the law 185 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 4: and consistent with department. 186 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 3: Mister Chairman. 187 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 7: The amazing thing here today is that we have an 188 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 7: admission that an. 189 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 4: Art of chairman, that the gentleman's time is expired by 190 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 4: now thirty four seconds. 191 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 6: Democrats know they're caught in this. 192 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 5: You went looking and fishing for information without saying who 193 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 5: it was you were looking for the information on it 194 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 5: was And. 195 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 6: I hate the term a witch hunt. 196 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 5: It is clear, and it is obvious, and it is 197 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 5: without question. And that brings us to Brandon Gill. That 198 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 5: brings us to Brandon Gill right here. 199 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 6: Now. If you don't know Brandon Gill, he has been 200 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 6: a very very. 201 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 5: Unique force of nature in the house. It's been something else. 202 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 5: He has been non stop in his questioning and his 203 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 5: ability to ask the questions, to stay on focus, to 204 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 5: stay on target, cool, calm, collected, and there was this 205 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 5: us right here. 206 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 3: Yes sir, we did, Yes, you did. 207 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 8: And the subpoena covered the time period between November twenty 208 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 8: twenty and January twenty twenty one. 209 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 6: Is that right? 210 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, so could you say that again. 211 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 8: We're not going to delay like this. The subpoena covered 212 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 8: the time period between November of twenty twenty and January 213 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 8: twenty twenty one, how many days after Kevin McCarthy was 214 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 8: sworn in his speaker did U subpoena his records? 215 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 4: I don't recall, but those two things had nothing. 216 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:34,359 Speaker 8: It was sixteen days after becoming the highest ranking Republican 217 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 8: in the House of Representatives, usubpoenaed his toll records. Do 218 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 8: you agree that that might reasonably be considered a violation 219 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 8: of the speech of debate clause? 220 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 4: I do not, and I want to be clear that 221 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 4: the till. 222 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 3: We were collecting month's worth of phone data on. 223 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 8: The Republican Speaker of the House, the leader of the opposition, 224 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 8: right after he got sworn in his speaker, all around 225 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 8: the time of a major vote. That sounds like a 226 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 8: flagrant violation of the speech or debate clause to me, 227 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 8: and I think most people agree with me. 228 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 3: And Speaker McCarthy had no recourse, did he? 229 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 8: Because you issued a non disclosure order ensuring that neither 230 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 8: he nor any of the American people knew about the subpoenas. 231 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 6: Is that right? 232 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 4: The toll record, the non content toll record subpoena is 233 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,359 Speaker 4: we did secure non disclosure orders for those subpoenas. 234 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 8: You did and let me ask you, mister Smith, at 235 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 8: the time you secured those non disclosure orders, was Speaker 236 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 8: McCarthy a flight risk? 237 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 4: The non disclosure order was based on concerns about it. 238 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 3: Was Speaker McCarthy a flight risks he was not? 239 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 6: He was not. 240 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 8: Then why did your non disclosure order refer to him 241 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 8: as a flight risk? It says right here the court 242 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 8: finds reasonable grounds to believe that such disclosure will result 243 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 8: in flight from prosecution. 244 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 5: Now, before we go any further, first of all, Brandon 245 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 5: Gill's very good. 246 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 6: The speech or debate. 247 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,599 Speaker 5: Clause Article one, Section six Clause IE, the Senators and 248 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 5: Representatives shall receive a compensation for their services, to be 249 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 5: ascertained by law and paid out of the treasury of 250 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 5: the United States. They shall, in all cases except trees 251 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 5: and felony in breach of the peace, be privileged from 252 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 5: arrest during their attendance at the session of their respective houses, 253 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 5: and in going to and returning from the same, and 254 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 5: for any speech or debate in either house. They shall 255 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 5: not be questioned in any other place. So the argument is, 256 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 5: if the Speaker of the House was engaged in any conversation, 257 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 5: they cannot be prosecuted for that conversation. But the Special 258 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 5: Council Jack Smith decided to go after phone. 259 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 6: Records and other records without. 260 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 5: Informing anybody of whose records he was going after, claiming 261 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 5: them to be a flight risk. As Representative Gill does explain, 262 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 5: to then utilize their words that are protected by the 263 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 5: Constitution against them for his purposes. We could say it 264 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 5: another way, manipulated, sir. 265 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 4: When securing a non disclosure order, the risks don't have 266 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 4: to be associated. 267 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 8: I think the Speaker of the House is a risk 268 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 8: this question, This is not your time, this is my time. 269 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 8: You think the Speaker of the House is a flight risk, 270 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 8: You think he's going to hop on a plane and 271 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 8: leave the country. 272 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 4: No, what I was trying to explain is, with respect 273 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 4: to a non disclosure order, the risks aren't necessarily associated 274 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 4: with this subscriber to the phone risks, to instigation. 275 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 8: I think that you were using this is clearly in 276 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 8: reference to Speaker McCarthy, and you were using clearly false 277 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 8: information to secure a non disclosure order to hide from 278 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 8: Speaker McCarthy and from the American people the fact that 279 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 8: you were spying. 280 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 3: On his toll records. But I've got more more so 281 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 3: let's move on. 282 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 5: Never forget that when they have power, there is nothing 283 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 5: they won't do. And did you hear all the Democrats 284 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 5: interrupting Republicans don't do that. 285 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 6: I believe that Republicans have to start, so they'll stop. 286 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 5: But I may not get my way on that is 287 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 5: Jack Smith as low as you thought he was, Oh lower, 288 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 5: keep it here. 289 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 6: This is Tony Kats today. 290 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 5: So there's now a third arrest that's been made in 291 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 5: this church terrorism in Saint Paul. And if you tell 292 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 5: me I can't call it terrorism. They called January sixth 293 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 5: an insurrection. I'll say what I will Tony Katz, Tony 294 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 5: Kats today. 295 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 6: Good to be with you. And they arrested the guy, 296 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 6: William Kelly. 297 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 5: William Kelly was the guy screaming at people and wearing 298 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 5: the blank Trump hat and was doing his Grizzly Adams impression. 299 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 5: And then there's talk that Lemon is not going to 300 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 5: get arrested. I don't know if that is true. I 301 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 5: do not know, as I know what's getting reported, I 302 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 5: simply do not know if that is indeed factual. If 303 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 5: the judge in question is the one who makes the 304 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 5: decision blanket, meaning that if this judge over here is 305 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 5: some magistrate. Judge says no, can another judge say, excuse me, 306 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 5: go right ahead. I don't have enough data to answer 307 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 5: that to be able to say with certitude, So I'm 308 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 5: gonna hold off on the lemon stuff. 309 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 6: I'm going to say that this is good. 310 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 5: It was Pam Bondi earlier today the Attorney General and 311 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:05,959 Speaker 5: bnouncing arrests in the church case Saint Paul, Minnesota, where 312 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 5: the so called anti s protesters really these anti American, 313 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 5: anti Christian zealots, as I see it, enter the church, 314 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 5: disrupted church services. We're trying to intimidate parishioners, were screaming 315 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 5: at parishioners. A woman by name of Nakima Levy Armstrong, 316 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 5: who was an organizer, was arrested. A woman by the 317 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 5: name of Chantel Allen was arrested, arrested. She's also part 318 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 5: of the Saint Board, Saint Paul School Board. You can 319 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 5: imagine what's going on there. These people were arrested and 320 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:44,479 Speaker 5: now we have a third arrest of this of this 321 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 5: guy Kelly, who was screaming and yelling at people, and 322 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 5: you know the he was the guy who said, you know, 323 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 5: if you want to if you want to arrest me, 324 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 5: arrest me. If you want to kill me, kill me. 325 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 5: But you can kill the man, but you can't kill you. 326 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 5: Kill the revolutionary, but you can't kill the revolution. I mean, 327 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 5: when they tell you who they are, believe them. As 328 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 5: a matter of fact. This guy made a video and 329 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 5: he was like, if you want to arrest me, arrest me. 330 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 5: And Pambondi reposted the video and all she wrote was Okay. 331 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 6: Great, we're really really good at Twitter. I'm actually impressed 332 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 6: that we're arrested. I got admit. I'm amazed from Pambondi. 333 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 6: I expected nothing to Now will these people be convicted 334 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 6: that I don't know, but at least this part is happening. 335 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 6: This is Tony Katz today. Three more things stories. 336 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 5: That aren't getting reported in large measure, but it should 337 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 5: be Tony Katz, Tony kats today. Good to be here, 338 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 5: good to be with you. Find everything I do over 339 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 5: at Tony katz dot com. And I had some people ask, hey, 340 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 5: this weather that's coming, how does this affect your event? 341 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 5: Trump One year later, the Red Tie Gala, I've got 342 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 5: people still asking for tickets. 343 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 6: It's been crazy. Just a real quick synopsis. I've been 344 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 6: wanting to do this. 345 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 5: I was gonna do a recap of the year and 346 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 5: then how it plays into the midterms. And I still 347 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 5: argue that the midterms are winnable. The numbers are rough, rough, rough, roup, 348 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 5: but I believe it's winnable. It just takes not only preparation, 349 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 5: it takes sticking to the topic right, staying on task, 350 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 5: not getting distracted. So I've got this big event, the 351 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 5: Higatt Regency downtown Indianapolis Saturday night, and we're doing it 352 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 5: red tie and some people are like, wait, is that 353 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 5: a tucks or a gown. I'm like, yep, what about 354 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 5: cocktail tire? 355 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 6: Yep? 356 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 5: How about just pants? Absolutely? People are getting dressed up 357 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 5: and some people are like I was try I want 358 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 5: to get dressed up, and I was selling tickets through Christmas, 359 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 5: Like Tony, I can't focus on tickets. 360 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 6: I got to get the kids gift and everything else. 361 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 6: So I learned a lot about timing on this event. 362 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 5: But over the last two weeks, whoop, here we go 363 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 5: to the races. 364 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 6: It's been We're gonna have a fantastic night, and then 365 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 6: the storm's coming through. It's like, are you kidding? 366 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 5: And You're everybody's talking about these storms, the snow, the 367 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 5: bitter cold, the ice. 368 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 6: They're expecting massive ice in Tennessee. 369 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 5: You've got preparations taking place in Virginia. You've got the 370 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 5: Northeast in a full on panic. And isn't that always 371 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,719 Speaker 5: the way? If we in the Midwest get a storm, 372 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 5: no one pays attention. They're like, oh, by the way, 373 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 5: it's snowed over there in that place you fly over 374 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 5: to get to California. 375 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 6: They don't care. But they get half an inch of 376 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 6: snow and it's a it's a front page story. 377 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 5: And then the Today Show is gonna have Al Roker 378 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 5: in some kind of winter coat talking about polar vortexas 379 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 5: and the whole thing comes a story. 380 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 6: It's ridiculous. 381 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 5: Weather reports have been changing and changing constantly, and right 382 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 5: now where I live, where this event is happening, we're 383 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 5: kind of okay, we're gonna see a little bit snow 384 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 5: and then the cold, but it's very possible this whole 385 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 5: thing's gonna shift up, shift northward. And then I have 386 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 5: to ask a question, what do you do? What do 387 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 5: you do at that moment? Me, I'm a show must 388 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 5: go on guy. Reality is I don't want to put 389 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 5: anybody at risk coming to an event. It's crazy. It's 390 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 5: not about me, it's about it's about you. So I'm watching. 391 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 5: I am watching this weather because it might change what's happening. 392 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 5: So if you've got tickets, hold on because it's not canceled, Mike, 393 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 5: get postponed. We don't know yet. Right now, everything is 394 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 5: on everything, so that could change in an hour. Right now, 395 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 5: All good, But yeah, people are focused on this storm 396 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 5: because in places, admittedly it's going to be really bad and. 397 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 6: People are going to be in a lot, a lot, 398 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 6: a lot of. 399 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 5: Hurt, especially when you see ice on the roads and 400 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 5: you were talking about inches of ice and the snow 401 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 5: totals that they're looking at. 402 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 6: And the bitter cold. 403 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 5: Check on a neighbor, honestly, check on a neighbor, and 404 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 5: would you drip your fossis please. As a guy who 405 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 5: has had pipes burst in the house, came back from 406 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 5: vacation to a family room that was no longer a 407 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 5: family room, just flooded, ripped apart, walked into water pouring. 408 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 6: Out of the ceiling. It was brutal. 409 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 5: And the collection of books that my wife had three 410 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 5: hundred some odd books in the bookshelves, some first edition stuff, 411 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:48,479 Speaker 5: stuff given to her by her late father, destroyed. She 412 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 5: went through with with the kids, went through every book 413 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 5: and made a list because I had to do it 414 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 5: for insurance purposes. 415 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:00,120 Speaker 6: I have actually never seen her that devastated. 416 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 5: Just this connection to her, to her childhood, this connection 417 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 5: to her father, this connection to these moments in times 418 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 5: where she picked these things up. 419 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 6: Just just the. 420 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 5: Horrible, just horrible to watch it was, you know, and 421 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 5: it sounds like such a little thing. 422 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 6: Hey, hey, you were able to rebuild. No one died. 423 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 6: It's true, you know, you win that battle. 424 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 5: But these things that connect you to how you grew 425 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 5: up and how you came to be in these moments 426 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 5: with family and stuff, this is not small stuff. 427 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 6: It was crazy and I don't want that for anybody else, So, uh, 428 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 6: drip your faucets. 429 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 5: Then there is the possible the trees are going to explode. 430 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 5: Producer Landon was discussing this earlier. If I understand it right, 431 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 5: the tree doesn't actually like explode like it's tenorite or 432 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 5: something like that. Doesn't go boom, It pops because well, 433 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 5: the water inside the tree, the ice expands and it bursts. 434 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 5: So as I understand it, the tree doesn't actually explode, 435 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 5: it's just the popping you hear from the trees. And yes, 436 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 5: that's a good point. P It's not only ice on 437 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 5: the roads, it's ice on the power lines. That's where 438 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 5: things get wrong. Ice on the trees and then that 439 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,719 Speaker 5: stuff falls and the tree. That's what we're looking out for, 440 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 5: and that is true from Oklahoma, right, So our friends 441 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 5: aren't her MG, we're. 442 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 6: Looking out for you. 443 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 5: We want we're oping all works out because we're hearing 444 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 5: about the cold now and I want to know how 445 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 5: you guys are experiencing all the way through to the 446 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 5: Virginias and then up into New York and then it's 447 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 5: gonna push its way out. Getting more and more information 448 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 5: on that storm, there's all so a blood shortage. According 449 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 5: to the Red Cross, the national blood supply fell about 450 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 5: thirty five percent. So you've got flu activity keeping people 451 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 5: from giving blood, winter weather keeping people from giving blood, 452 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 5: holiday season keeping people from giving blood, and blood is 453 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 5: blood drives are are down, the blood supply has fallen. 454 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 5: We need the blood, so saying to producer land and 455 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 5: that's actually something we could coordinate. So maybe we'll get 456 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 5: into that in the month of February. 457 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: I don't. 458 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna be able to do it that quick. 459 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 5: Maybe we can start doing some blood drives. So if 460 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 5: you are somebody who gives maybe before the storm comes, 461 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 5: if you have the chance, gives them blood and bring 462 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 5: yourself a snack. 463 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 6: Then there is Mockwood Khalil who's going. 464 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 5: To be deported to Algeria. Thank you, producer, producer land 465 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 5: and I appreciate that. Oh the cheering that is going 466 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 5: on right there. Mockmoodkhalil is this guy from Syrian born. 467 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,719 Speaker 5: He was at Columbia leading the charge to intimidate Jewish students, 468 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 5: prevented walking across campus and taking over buildings and all 469 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 5: the rest. 470 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 6: And he gets arrested. He's going to be. 471 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 5: Deported, and then a judge says, you can't support him. 472 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 5: And then he gets out and he's with the Costio 473 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 5: Cortes and he's like, I'm not afraid of you, Donald Trump. 474 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 5: And then a three judge panel from the Third Circuit said, 475 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 5: who is this judge to say that you can't have 476 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 5: him in custody. 477 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 6: He's got to go through the whole process. 478 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 5: He has no standing to challenge anything until he's gone 479 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 5: through the process. And now we're hearing that he will 480 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 5: be deported to Algeria. That's what's next. 481 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: Now. 482 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 5: According to Trish McLaughlin, who is the Assistant Secretary for 483 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 5: Public Affairs at DHS Apartment Homeland Security, is a reminder 484 00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 5: for those who are in this country on a visa 485 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 5: agree card. You are a guest in this country, act 486 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 5: like it. It is a privilege, not a right, to 487 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 5: be in this country to live or to study. Does 488 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 5: anybody have a problem with that, saybe, I have a 489 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 5: problem with that. That doesn't mean that you could be 490 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 5: attacked or assaulted and not have have recourse. It's that 491 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 5: when you act to intimidate, threaten students or citizens. Students 492 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 5: are citizens. We simply don't allow that. When you show 493 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 5: clear support for a terrorist organization, which Hamas is, you 494 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 5: don't get to stay. 495 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 6: You gotta go. 496 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 5: You just gotta leave, you gotta be gone. That's all 497 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 5: there is to it. I'm glad to see this movement 498 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 5: take place. I think it's important that we set up 499 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 5: rules and that the rules be followed. I think that 500 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 5: there are citizens out there who grossly support terrorist organizations. 501 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 6: It's awful. 502 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 5: Support of AMAS is disgusting. They're citizens, they have the 503 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 5: right to be disgusting when we talk about someone who 504 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 5: is not a citizen. 505 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 6: We don't have to keep you in the country. 506 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 5: We owe you zero in that regard you owe us, 507 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 5: and if you're gonna be supporting terrorists, we should remove you. 508 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 5: This brings us to Chris Cuomo, who sadly we cannot depport. Now, 509 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 5: I am not sure I can play this. I'm not 510 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 5: sure I can play this because it's Chris Cuomo, and 511 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 5: Chris Cuomo is the kind. 512 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 6: Of guy who curses a lot, I mean a whole bunch. 513 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 5: Chris Cuomo is over there at News Nation and he's 514 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 5: angry with Scott Jennings. Now you know Chris Cuomo from 515 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 5: his days at CNN and his days at CNN, he 516 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 5: was the one who braved COVID, and he spent time 517 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 5: in the family basement and he walked out of the 518 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 5: basement on camera looked at me, I'm past COVID. 519 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 6: I'm so brave. It was also very weird. 520 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 5: He was the guy who was supportive of his brother, 521 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 5: the governor Andrew Cuomo, who sent Grandma to die, who 522 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 5: would send these people back to nursing homes. He sent 523 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 5: them to die, And while the Left tried to make 524 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 5: it as Andrew Cuomo was really leading the smart fight 525 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 5: on COVID. That was not true, not at all or 526 00:30:52,120 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 5: in any way. It was Chris Cuomo who was on 527 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 5: I was it not a video but on audio saying, Hey, 528 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 5: these women who are accusing you of this, that and 529 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 5: the other, give me their names. 530 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 6: I'll see what I can do. That's Chris Clomo. 531 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 5: Chris Cuomo finger on the dump button their poditional landing finger. 532 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 5: Chris Cuomo was saying this about Scott Jennings. 533 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 4: You see this clip of Scott Jennings saying, how are 534 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 4: you going to enforce it? 535 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 3: How are you going to force me not saying the 536 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 3: word I llgals anymore? 537 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 6: How are you going to do that? Say illegals anymore? 538 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: Because ICE is directly targeting legal citizens of this country? 539 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 6: And why are you going to enforce your edict on me? 540 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 6: Just out of curiosity? I understand. I just listen to 541 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 6: this point about illegal What are you bully? 542 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 3: Now? 543 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 6: What are you a tough guy? Because you're talking to 544 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 6: this kid. 545 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 5: Who that kid is twenty five years old, if I 546 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 5: understand it correctly, and that kid not only decided to 547 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 5: tell Scott Jennings, he can't say certain things. That kid 548 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 5: accused Donald Trump of being part of a sex trafficking 549 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 5: ring and had to come out and recant statement because 550 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 5: he knew what was gonna end up in a lawsuit. 551 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 6: But here's Chris Cuomo going after Scott Jennings for being 552 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 6: a tough guy. Cameron Casky is this kid's name? 553 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 5: And on CNN said you can't use the word illegal anymore. 554 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 5: And Scott Jennings asked the right question to the leftist, 555 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 5: how are. 556 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 6: You gonna enforce your edict? 557 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 5: These people think that they can bully us and tell 558 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 5: us what we can and can't say. And now here 559 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 5: comes Chris Cuomo to do what go after Scott Jennings 560 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 5: are being right? 561 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 6: What kind of tough guy thing is this from Chris Cuomo? 562 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 5: Chris Cuomo was a guy trying to silence women for 563 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 5: his brother. No, that didn't happen. That's all just something 564 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 5: that got said and never was actual, never was factual. 565 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 5: What did Scott Jennings say so wrong? The answer is nothing. 566 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 5: What is this tough guy routine from you? 567 00:32:54,680 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 6: Chris? It's also nothing. You're not tough. Just so we're clear, 568 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 6: no one thinks you're tough. No one believes you're tough. 569 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 5: And if you think it's okay for someone to say 570 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 5: you're not allowed to say that, would you would you 571 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 5: take that as a television host? 572 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 6: Of course not. 573 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 5: And he's not a kid, he's twenty five. How old 574 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 5: is Cameron CASKI he goes on TV, he wants to engage, 575 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 5: he's a twenty five. 576 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 6: Year old. 577 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 5: And he ran up against a buzz saw name Scott Jennings, 578 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 5: who properly put him in his place for being ridiculous. 579 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 6: You're mad at Scott for that. 580 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 5: Chris, Chris, the only guy playing tough guys you and 581 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 5: for the record, nobody thinks you're tough. 582 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 6: You are so lucky to have that job. I can't 583 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 6: believe they gave it to you. I'm Tony Katz. This 584 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 6: is Tony Kats today. The shooting and you've allD twenty 585 00:33:58,760 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 6: twenty two. 586 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 5: Put that on the record as one of the most 587 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 5: horrifying things that many of us have ever witnessed. 588 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 6: That story. Twenty nine was it? Twenty nine children killed 589 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 6: in that shooting just outside of El Paso. 590 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 5: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you, 591 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 5: and what made that story so horrifying was that the 592 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 5: officer involved, the Uvalde School Police officer Adrian Gonzales, didn't 593 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 5: enter the school, didn't go in to protect those kids. 594 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 5: He was charged with twenty nine counts a child abandonment 595 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 5: or endangerment. There was a trial. The jury deliberated for 596 00:34:53,360 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 5: seven hours and found him not guilty. I had not 597 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 5: thought about the. 598 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 6: Case in a while. 599 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 5: I can't say that it was top my mind or 600 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 5: that I really was fully aware that the trial was 601 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 5: going on. 602 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 6: When I see that result, I must tell you that 603 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 6: was a kick if. 604 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 5: If you can be a school police officer and you're 605 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 5: not there to put yourself in the line of fire 606 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 5: to protect children, what are we doing? We saw this 607 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 5: at Parkland Marjorie Stowan Douglas. We see it here. I say, 608 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 5: let's arm the teachers, those who want to be armed. 609 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 5: Let's arm the parents, get them the training, and put 610 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 5: them in there. Someone who's willing to stop the violence. 611 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 6: Not guilty. Wow, this is Tony Katx today. Find everything 612 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 6: in Tony kats on something h