1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: So Trump and Putin are getting ready to meet in Alaska, 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: and what's gonna happen will be very interesting. Let's delve 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: into it. It's the Kendall and Casey showing. Rob Casey's 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: out today, Jerry lopezro oldpal at Indies Spanglish on Twitter 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: with us in her place. 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 2: keV is here. 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: So the meetings going down tomorrow, and apparently now the 8 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: NBC is reported earlier this morning that they're they're not 9 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: going to discuss territory what they're calling territory division with Putin. 10 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: So this is almost led to believe like it is 11 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: a precursor to the thing like I can't believe it'd 12 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: be like I get to know your meeting because these 13 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: guys know each I don't think they're going to do that. 14 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: But if you're not talking about dividing up land, which 15 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: that's what this is all about, how much are we 16 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: actually going to get done with this? And I'm surprised 17 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: with that not being on the table, that both these guys. 18 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: Are going to be there for this. 19 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 3: Right, the whole discussion needs to be We've already come 20 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 3: into Ukraine. We're going to keep certain segments of it 21 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 3: that used to be part of russ or whatever. With 22 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: that Zelensky present to agree to any of this stuff, 23 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 3: none of it matters well. 24 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: And so that's the question in all of this is 25 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 1: how much say does the Ukrainian government have because Trump 26 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: never gives a clear answer on that. 27 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 3: They would have less of a say if we stopped 28 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 3: funding them. 29 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: Well, right, and they shouldn't really have much of us say, 30 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: because we are the war. 31 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 2: We are the war, you know, and so we are 32 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 2: the world. 33 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it is us, right, It's been our money 34 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: that has driven most of that, and it's been our 35 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: money that has purchased the military hardware, the ability for 36 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: these people. 37 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: To fight back, and at some point can we just 38 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: be done? Right? And so really he doesn't have much 39 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: of a say. But you would think. 40 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: From a just optics perspective, you would say, hey, Junior, 41 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: do you wanna come sit in the room, real quiet like? 42 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: But maybe they don't think it's that they're real quiet like. 43 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: So what's interesting though, is The Times had an article 44 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: and The Times is a British publication about that they 45 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: may be using the West Bank and how Israel and 46 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: Gaza interact in the West Bank as the blueprint to 47 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: try to get some sort of agreement and what they 48 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: mean by that for those of you aren't familiar. So 49 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: Israel has overseen this, this Palestinian territory that it got 50 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: from it got from Jordan in nineteen sixty seven, and 51 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,119 Speaker 1: it is run by Israel. It is still a part 52 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: of that country, but it is run by Israel, which 53 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: is so weird, right, Like to me, that's just such 54 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: a word salad. It's like a country within a country, right. 55 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: But if I'm in charge, it's mine mine. Yeah, you 56 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,399 Speaker 1: can call it bananas if you want, but if I'm 57 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: in charge, mine And they're what they're saying is or 58 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: at least as Times piece is reporting, is that that's 59 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 1: what they're exploring with Israel or Israel with Russia and Ukraine. 60 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 3: How's that working out? 61 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:16,119 Speaker 1: Well? Where it'll still be Ukrainian territory, but Russia will 62 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: govern it and oversee it. And again to me, it's 63 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: like I can't imagine not that again, Ukraine has much 64 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: of us say in it. But they're gonna go quietly 65 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: on that because you're just giving them, basically giving them 66 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: the land, which is the the what this has always 67 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: all been about. 68 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're gonna end up with the same kind 69 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:35,839 Speaker 3: of incursions that we see over in the Middle East 70 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 3: over there in Russia and Ukraine. 71 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: This is so fascinating to me how everybody involved in 72 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: this has bungled this. And if I guess this is 73 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: an American taxpayer, would be my question to our government 74 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: if they were to sign off on this, If indeed 75 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: that's the way it works, then what was all the 76 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: funding of the fighting all about. If you're just gonna 77 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: let Russia it's like they're trying to have their cake 78 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: and eat it too. Well, see it remains Ukrainian, but 79 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: if Putin's in charge of it and gets to dictate 80 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: everything that happens there isn't it basically Russian territory? 81 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: And why would Zelenski ever agree to that. Yeah, we 82 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 3: may not have a choice because if I have to 83 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 3: agree to that, then technically I'm not the president because 84 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 3: Putin's gonna be making all the decisions. Well exactly, so, 85 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: I think this is a colossal mess. I think everybody's 86 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: looking for an exit ramp on this, other than Putin. 87 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 3: I think that's part of the problem is Putin. Putin 88 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 3: knows he can win. Well, he just got it. 89 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 2: If you don't. 90 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: If you don't care about human life, right, you can 91 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: win anything. Yeah, right, he doesn't care. Oh I gotta 92 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: lose ten thousand troops, oh you know, this month, this year, whatever, 93 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: he doesn't care. And so if you have no decency 94 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: about you, and you're engaged in a conflict funded by 95 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: people who have decency and supporting people who have some 96 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: level of decency, you're always in the driver's seat because 97 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: he doesn't care if his economy suffers. He doesn't care 98 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: if his people are hungry. 99 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 3: A great example of this would be, you know, the 100 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 3: the Iraq or Afghanistan situations. Right, we had a bigger military, 101 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 3: bigger fighting force, could do all these things, but you 102 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 3: just have all these people that aren't afraid to die 103 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 3: and dictators that aren't afraid to let them go die. 104 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: Were you deployed overseas? 105 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? 106 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: I went direct twice, that's right, Okay, when you was 107 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: it the most current Yeah? 108 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: Engagement? We had so many over there. 109 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: Come on, man, yeah, well you hate that old Uh 110 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: what times when you went. 111 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 2: Did you feel like it was for something while I 112 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: was there? I did? You did? 113 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? 114 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 2: So what years were you there? 115 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 3: So I went to Iraq the first time? In two 116 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: thousand and six, and then I came back for like 117 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,119 Speaker 3: five or six months, and then I went again. So 118 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 3: you were like six to eightish, So you were down. 119 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: We were down the rabbit hole in Iraq than in 120 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: the sense of it was already a quagmire. It was 121 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: already a mess. It was already a terrorists were in. Yeah, 122 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: you weren't going there to Saddam Hussein. 123 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 3: I was there with Sadam, Like so the Battle of Fellujah, 124 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 3: I was with those Marines, but he was Felujah. 125 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but Sadam Hussein was six. Yeah he was 126 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 1: captured by then. Yeah, but Saddam wasn't doing anything. Now 127 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: it was all these insurgent groups and right, right, But 128 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying the like, if you're one of those people 129 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: that in the early days of that war, we were 130 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: sold Saddam Hussein's got these nuclear weapons, You're going in 131 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: there like, hey, we're not to save the world, right right, And. 132 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: I'm just curious if by that point. 133 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 3: We weren't there to save the world. I was there 134 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 3: to make sure my buddies didn't die. But did they 135 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 3: lead you to believe you were still? Like how did 136 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 3: they sell that to you? Because I don't know how 137 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 3: you're going to I think by the time I got there, 138 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 3: I remember having conversations with people who talked about WMD's 139 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 3: it would kind of laugh, like they already knew the 140 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 3: jig was up at that point. But I was a contractor, 141 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: so a lot of us were just there for a paycheck. 142 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: What does that mean? You were contractors selling that to 143 00:06:58,960 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 2: the audience. 144 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 3: So I was active duty military service members a counter 145 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 3: terrorism analyst. Not a lot of those running around that 146 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 3: aren't associated with the military. 147 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: You couldn't pass math, and you got to be a 148 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: counter terrorism analysts. 149 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 3: You see how I look, that's an It's worth way 150 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 3: more than trigonovity. 151 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: Brother, Oh, because you looked the part I looked. You 152 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: could go on a streetside. 153 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 3: I went on many a streets and pointed people out 154 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: because guys like you couldn't roll up. Yeah, that happened 155 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 3: a lot. So so so so nine to eleven happens. 156 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 3: I get out of the service in four I moved 157 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 3: to d C. Now you have companies like L three 158 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 3: North of Grumman se S all coming out looking for 159 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 3: people because now Department of Homeland has been created, we 160 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 3: have all this government funding. 161 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: The military industrial complex boo. 162 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 3: I was like one of the first people in there, right. 163 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 3: So six I find a company who's offering for us 164 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 3: to go overseas and they're paying stupid amounts of money. 165 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 3: I went, came came back and was like, oh my god, 166 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 3: I'm going back again. 167 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: So it was it. 168 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 3: I mean, so a DD contractor Department Defense contractor basically 169 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 3: I'm a I'm a ten ninety nine employee of northup 170 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 3: Grumman who has a contract with the with the government, okay, 171 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 3: to find counterteris mailists. 172 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: But you but you had the uh you were essentially 173 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: acting as a member of the military. 174 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: Then correct, as an embedded mentor as well. 175 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: Okay, so because you always think about like every guy 176 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: that goes over there is is g I Joe, And 177 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: it's like, that's not how it works. Your work now, 178 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: So the money, this is fascinating to me. The money 179 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: is so good that to you, you're like, you're there 180 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: was a there was a there was a price to 181 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: putting your life on the line. 182 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 2: Like there was I mean to you, it. 183 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 3: Says price on the line. I think I was still 184 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 3: young enough to think I was there doing the right thing. Yeah, 185 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 3: and then you get there, and I was, you know, yeah, 186 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 3: those pay tecks are good man, And you're talking, like 187 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 3: I said earlier, you're talking about a guy who didn't 188 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 3: make it through one year Indiana State. Yeah, And now 189 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, I'm getting texts that are like, 190 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 3: holy cow. 191 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: Because if you're gonna have this agreement, and who knows 192 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: if this is what they come up with. Like I said, 193 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: this is just one report, but if you come up 194 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: with this, you're gonna have to have some police mechanism for. 195 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: This, and they're gonna be contractors, right and Blackrock that's 196 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 3: where well not Blackrock. What's the one that got in trouble? 197 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 2: Which one? Did more of them? One get into Iraq? 198 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 199 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: Okay, so what you think of that? 200 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 1: The if you go but like when you went, there 201 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: was a financial component to you to what you were doing. 202 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: So I was just gonna say, like, if you go 203 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: over there, if they ship you over there, you're gonna 204 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: be like, really, I'm going over there for this, But 205 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: if the money's good enough and it's a contract, I 206 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: tracked thing. You know what did they say? Money talks 207 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: and BS watks. That's a fascinating conversation. Jerry Lopez is 208 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: in for Casey today. It's Kindl Casey Show. 209 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 2: I'm Rob. 210 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: keV is here. When we come back, Beef hitting an 211 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: all time high. 212 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 2: What's that tell us about the economy. It's not good. 213 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: We'll talk about it coming out next Kennel The case Show, 214 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: ninety three WIBC. 215 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 2: This is an interesting article in the Indie Star about 216 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 2: Hamilton County. 217 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: And since your residential Hamilton County expert, as you live 218 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: there by the way, It's Ketle and Casey Show. I'm 219 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: Rob Jerry Lopez is in for Casey today. keV is here. 220 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to put you. I'm going to put you 221 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: on the spot with this. 222 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: I don't know. 223 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 2: I don't know what you're going to know. You don't. 224 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 1: That's why I deliberated intell, because I want to get 225 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: your gut reaction to this. So the Star has an 226 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: article today talking about how Hamilton County, the Citi's in it, 227 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: still don't have public transit and thank god, oh. 228 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 3: Thank god, I don't want to keep everybody south of 229 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 3: eighty sixth Street. 230 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: Well, this is what's interesting, right is And I'll turn 231 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: this over to you here in a second. But from 232 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: my perspective on this and twenty years ago, I had 233 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: a job up in Hamilton County where I would drive 234 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: up there almost every day and it was a I mean, 235 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: geographically it took a while to get there, but it 236 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: was a relatively pleasant drive from where I lived on 237 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: the west side. You could just take eighty sixth Street 238 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: briefly un four sixty thirty one thirty two the boom, 239 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: just like you're right right, boom right. It was very simple. 240 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: It was a Westfield Noblesville area and was very simple 241 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: and easy to do. And I think about trying to 242 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: make that drive today, and if you doubled my paycheck, 243 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: I would not make that drive every single day into 244 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: the heart of downtown Noblesville because of all the traffic, 245 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 1: the conetruction, everything. And so it comes to the heart 246 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: of part of the charm of living in places like 247 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: that used to be that it had enough to sustain itself, 248 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 1: but it was small enough that you could get wherever 249 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: you needed to go in a few minutes time, and 250 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: everybody kind of knew everybody, and it was all sort 251 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 1: of connected. 252 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 3: How long ago are you talking. 253 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: Well, I'm talking to you, know, like I said, twenty 254 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: years ago, when I was when I was old looked 255 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 1: completely difficul well did it. And it's not like I'm not 256 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: talking to the Stone Ages. I'm talking about, you know, 257 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: ten years ago, completely in the two thousands, and I 258 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: remember the idea of when't like something would go it 259 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: used to be a big deal when something would go in. 260 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: And I'm saying the same thing for where I live 261 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: in Browns, where, even though it has had near the 262 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: growth of Hamilton County, but used to be a big 263 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: deal when something would go in somewhere and now and 264 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: the community sort of rallied around it, right and now 265 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: it's just these communities are so disconnected, right, like you 266 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: live your life and inside of your life, okay, you 267 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: have people that come in your orbit, out of your orbit, 268 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: saying with your kids, sports teams, whatever, but there's not 269 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 1: the sense of connected community because it's so big and 270 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: quite frankly, the territory is so volumeous now that there 271 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: is no sense of connection. Like when I lived in town, 272 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 1: you knew every neighborhood. Growing up in the town of 273 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: Browns where you knew every neighborhood and if your friends 274 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 1: lived in a certain neighborhood, you sort of knew their 275 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: economic status. You know all of that stuff, and you 276 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: knew some kids were the rich kids, some kids were not. 277 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: Like now, you can't identify most neighborhoods in these places 278 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: in this master It's the thing. It's like, boy, talk 279 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: about the last thing that I would want if I 280 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: were in one of those communities. 281 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 2: But you live there, you live in Noblesville. 282 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 3: I don't want it either. I don't want it either. 283 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 3: Like and to your point, So I moved the Westfield 284 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 3: when I got back from the service. I graduated from 285 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 3: Pike High School. My parents have moved from Pike to Carmel. 286 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 3: I found out I couldn't afford Carmel after coming back 287 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 3: from my IRAQ, so I moved to Westfield. But that's 288 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 3: before thirty two was built up. That's before even spring 289 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 3: Mill Road north of one hundred and forty six was 290 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 3: built up. Now it looks completely different. That was pre 291 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 3: Grand Park, right and you look now and it's like 292 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 3: all these business we have a sonic. I used to 293 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 3: see the commercials. Can't even eat there, but yeah, have sonic. 294 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 3: It looks like Meridian is thirty two now. Yeah, and 295 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 3: to your point, you lose that sense of community. 296 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 1: And that's one of the things that you know as 297 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: you get older you recognize is that as these communities 298 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: have brought all the stuff in, for lack of a 299 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: better term, you lost the sense. You have lost the 300 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: sense of connection. And I think Noblesville is the one 301 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: that hits really hard one because I used to work 302 00:13:58,600 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: up there, and I was up there all the time, 303 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: and I used to love that square. 304 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 2: And now they're doing all. 305 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: These proposed traffic they call them traffic calling. 306 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 2: They're eliminating the cars, right. 307 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: But it was the idea that you could go there 308 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: and you knew all the people that were there on 309 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: the scream, But I didn't live up there. 310 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 3: A lot of those are still mom and pop places too, 311 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 3: which is kind of cool. 312 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: They are they are, but when you look at the 313 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: Soviet block style apartments that are going on right there 314 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: on the main drag, the nobles will unlike the rest 315 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: of those places. It was sort of like, I'm trying 316 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: to think of the word here where I'll get myself 317 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: in trouble because I was saying, like it fits, it 318 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: fits me perfectly. 319 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 2: It didn't have the uppity feel. 320 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 3: Noble or the noble tucky c that's what we used 321 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 3: to call it. Noble Tuck or the New Age Field. 322 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 3: It's not like that anymore. Yeah, it's it's not it's gone, right, 323 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 3: it's it's gone. I we went there last year or 324 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 3: so for something and it was just like, what what 325 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 3: has happened here? And look, I don't live there, so 326 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 3: I don't have a say in it. But it's like 327 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 3: if you would or a and we got a whole 328 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 3: bunch of I think they're trying to get younger, is 329 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 3: what it looks like. Everybody's trying to bring in these 330 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 3: young workers, the young dorm style apartment, the trying to 331 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 3: bring in these and I don't know how much of 332 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 3: this is based off of us doing intel centers or 333 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 3: data centers. And now you know you're going to have 334 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 3: a younger twenty five people like Kevin are moving into 335 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 3: the city. You need to offer them something different. Maybe. 336 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting because we had a bunch of It 337 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: was some event going on in Noblesville that we were 338 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: talking about, and we had a whole bunch of people 339 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: who sent emails saying the same thing. Either they had 340 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: left or they were leaving, and they were like towny 341 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: life for people, and they said, I just can't afford 342 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: to live here anymore. 343 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 2: It is not the place they grew up with anymore. 344 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: It's not. 345 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: And it's really sad when you as if you're a 346 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: towny lifer with one of these places, you've had some stake, 347 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: you've had some role in making that a place people 348 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: want to come, and it all changes in front of you. 349 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: And the thing that it was that you helped make 350 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: it a reason people wanted to be there, it's all 351 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: gone away and you. 352 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 3: Just got to sit there and watch on. You're priced 353 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 3: out too. 354 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's like I saw this yesterday. 355 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: When I was a kid in Brownsburg, the epicenter of 356 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: town when it was a small downtown was Mizell's bar 357 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: barber shop and Huey Mizell ran and owned Mizell's Barbershop. 358 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: That guy could have run for the if we'd had 359 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: a mayor, the mayor of Brownsburg, and he would have 360 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: been elected. Like the whole epicenter, there was a drug store, 361 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: an old timey drug store, right next to it, an 362 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: old timey restaurant. 363 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 2: There was a badass saloon around the corner. 364 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 3: Same just chopping it up. Yeah yeah. 365 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: In that barbershop, Huey Mizel and Mizell's barbershop was the 366 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: epicenter of town and everybody knew it and it was 367 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: the rallying place for the town. 368 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 2: He passed away. 369 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: I got noticed that he had passed away the other day, 370 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: and I was thinking, like, if this would have been 371 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: even twenty years ago, they would have done one of 372 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: those funerals like. 373 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 2: The Mafia where they carried the casket down. 374 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 3: The street, part of the community. 375 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: And it's like, you got to get informed from somebody 376 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: else now that it happens. And when you lose the 377 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: sense of community and small town feel, the legends that 378 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: make that place special and the legendary status that they 379 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: have somewhat go with them. 380 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 3: And unless they put a plaque baby and you can 381 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 3: come back sixteen years later. 382 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Leeds and of Robbie Kendalls, he still 383 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: lives on. 384 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: But I think about a guy like that who literally 385 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: cut he started that barbersh having nineteen sixty seven in 386 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: that same spot and cut literally generations of hair. And 387 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: when you grow to the point, even though there are 388 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: people who will stay connected to the small town, the 389 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: connectivity of the small town goes away. 390 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 3: If that makes sense, it does, But then I will 391 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 3: come back to you and go. The connectivity of all 392 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 3: of us have gone away with the ad social media. 393 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 2: Now the community is, you know, the. 394 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 3: Whole ecosystem versus just your town. 395 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's like I was a there. 396 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: Was a documentary or not documentary, but TMZ put out 397 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: a thing the other night on Fox on the Life 398 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: of Hal Cogan, and they're showing all these like you know, 399 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: they're interviewing people, and they interviewed Vince mcmahn and a 400 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: bunch of other people about Haul Cogan. But they're showing 401 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 1: these old wrestling clips. And one of the things you 402 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: notice in these older wrestling clips, and I'm not even 403 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: talking about from the eighties. I'm talking about the stuff 404 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: in the nineties and the two thousands, nobody has a 405 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: phone out. Everybody's engaged in the thing. Everybody was engaged 406 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: in the mode. They were holding their signs, they were cheering. 407 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: Now you watch an event and everybody's got their phone out, 408 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: everybody's filming the thing. 409 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 2: People aren't engaged in the moment. 410 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: And that is to tie into what you've said another 411 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: example of things that a lot of things are special 412 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: because they exist only in your mind, or they exist 413 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: only in a photograph and your mind is able to 414 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: take control of that thing and what it was and 415 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: what it represented, and it's special. That's a thing that's 416 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: special to you. The memory is special to you. Or 417 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: that photograph that's still shot that will live on forever 418 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 1: tells that thing in the photo almost becomes as big 419 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: as the moment itself. And that has all gone away too, 420 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: because everything. 421 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 3: Is broadcast on the internet now, yep, and having hard 422 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 3: photos is the thing in the past as well. 423 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, well not in my house, baby. We still print 424 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: out vote. 425 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 3: That's awesome. We still go to books and day Oh yeah, 426 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 3: I missed those days. 427 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, all right, we'll take right. We will get 428 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: to the price of beef when we come back. It's 429 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: Kettel Casey Show ninety three WIBC. 430 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 2: Okay, we'll get to the price. 431 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: Of beef in a minute, But first we got to 432 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: laugh at this and you said it's totally okay. 433 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, are you ready to go off on this guy? 434 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we'll do it. 435 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: Jerry Lopez is in for Casey today. It's Kennel and 436 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: Casey Show. I'm Rob Kevin's here. So we did what 437 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: a segment ago somehow we got on your military service. 438 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: We were talking about the proposed potential settlement that could 439 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 1: be going on with the Iraq or Iraq with the 440 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 1: Russian and Ukraine, and Putin and Trump are meeting tomorrow, 441 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: and The Times had reported one of the possible agreements 442 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: that is being explored is the idea of treating it 443 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: the way Israel and Palestine to treat their their agreement, 444 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: in which the area remains with Palestine, but it is 445 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 1: overseen and run by Israel, and they're proposing that the 446 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: Ukraine would technically still have the area in question that 447 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: Putin desires, but it would be running overseen by Russian. 448 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,719 Speaker 1: And then it branched off into a conversation about your 449 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: your military service and going over need. 450 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 3: For contractors to backfill soldiers, right, yeah, yeah. 451 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: So you who you were a member of the US 452 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 2: military correct? Yeah? 453 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 3: Four years active duty? 454 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and then you went overseas to Iraq as 455 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: a contractor. 456 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,719 Speaker 3: That means I volunteered. Now, I didn't have orders. I 457 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 3: chose to go on my own. 458 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 1: But like some person in the YouTube you by the way, 459 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 1: you can watch the program on YouTube. Just put Kennell 460 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: and Casey into your YouTube search bar. Somebody said thank 461 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: you for your service because you did serve as a 462 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: member of the US correct, and then some guy just 463 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: started ripping on you because we're in Iraq as a contractor. 464 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so a short buss Mike. All right, short 465 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 3: buss Mike in the YouTube chat. First of all, thank 466 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 3: you for your service, as universal to everybody that has served. 467 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 3: I don't care if you're a reservist, I don't care 468 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 3: for National Guard. And a country that has volunteer soldiers, 469 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 3: thank you for your service. 470 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 2: Right right, that has the apps. 471 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 3: I've never once said that I deployed as a soldier ever. 472 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 3: I've always That's the reason my story is so different. 473 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 3: I was an active duty soldier without a cause degree, 474 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 3: that was a counter terrorism analyst, and nine to eleven happens, 475 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 3: and I've become the most important person in the country, 476 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 3: and then I deployed overseas. 477 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 478 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: I think you've told this story, Mark one hundred times. Yeah, 479 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: but it's like you would have done whatever they told 480 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: you to do. You were willing to do whatever, and 481 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: the fact that you were over there doing the thing volunteering. 482 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 2: This is not like the army. Kadom me. 483 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 3: He was like, you got to go. I went, holy crap, 484 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 3: I want to do this, but make more money? Where 485 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 3: can I go? Sign up to go? 486 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're being a capitalist, all right. Yeah, And I 487 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 1: love the fact that that guy like in his world 488 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: and it's just nice for once because he's he's always 489 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: going at me, which get in line on that. But 490 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: now he's proven himself to be petty enough that he's 491 00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: going not even just petty. 492 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 3: Just came listen very well. I don't understand, Mike. Are 493 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 3: you a military member? You're just civiling on the sidelines 494 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 3: talking trash. 495 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I just thought that was funny, and. 496 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 3: Thank you for your service, Jerry, I was just a contractor. 497 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 2: We ever shot at yeah? Really? 498 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. I remember being on the phone my mom one time, 499 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 3: and people you get so used to hearing just the 500 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 3: noises all the time, so. 501 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,239 Speaker 2: Like people shooting at each other, that was no big 502 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: deal to y. 503 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 504 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you can hear it, you're good. Could you say, hey, 505 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: you guys knocked that off? 506 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 2: No, I love that. If you could hear it, you're good. Yeah, 507 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 2: if you can hear it, you're good. What I mean, 508 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 2: anybody ever actually shooting at you? Yeah? Yeah, I mean yeah, 509 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 2: but you're just a contractor. 510 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just contractor. 511 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: Dude, Hey the price. Let's get on to something else. 512 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: That's as we got beef, Mike, we got beef. Speaking 513 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: of beef, h Newsweek has an uplifting article here, the 514 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: price of beef has surged to an all time high, 515 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: and look, life has just gotten unaffordable. I mean, can 516 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: we just say the obvious. For many people, life is 517 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: just simply affordable. The Beef and Veal index rose by 518 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: two point five percent in July. Now you compare that 519 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: broader food was zero point two percent. So you're talking 520 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: a massive spike in the price of beef and veal 521 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: compared to the rest of food, which is expensive in 522 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: and of itself. Eleven point three percent Lopez eleven point 523 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: three percent increase over the past twelve months. So that 524 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: would mean public school math, which neither one of us 525 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: did very well. Looking at you, hoping you come up 526 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: with the answer, Well, I mean, let's like, let's say 527 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: a lot. 528 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 2: To fte it by ten at a little bit. 529 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the according to news Meanwhile, the price of ground 530 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: beef and uncooked beef steaks has risen by eleven point 531 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: five percent and twelve point four percent, respectively. 532 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 2: So think about this. 533 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 1: If you're going month over month and the price is 534 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: let's just say ten percent. Let's just make it easy, 535 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: right if a steak was and it's more than this, 536 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 1: but let's just use like, say ten dollars. Well now 537 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: it's now it's eleven dollars, yeah, or if it's twelve dollars. 538 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: You know, obviously many stakes are much more the sort 539 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: of stakes I get used by tomorrow or they go 540 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: bad are. 541 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 2: And look, you. 542 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: Could just extrapolate this out to all corners of our 543 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: society where whether it's rent, whether it's clothing, whether it's food. 544 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 2: As we're talking about. 545 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 3: It, you're stopping grab lunch somewhere, it's seventeen dollars. 546 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: Yeah unless and you but you did point out that 547 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: the four for ten on the Arby or. 548 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 3: For somebody of the YouTube tag gave you that, Yeah, 549 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 3: four for ten is back at the Arby. 550 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 2: I just I don't. 551 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: And look, there's a variety of reasons that are playing 552 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: into this. It's not that it's causing the inflation. One 553 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: of the things is demand, which I guess that's a 554 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: good thing that people still want to are capable of eating. 555 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 3: Who are these people that were capable of paying these 556 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 3: crazy prices? 557 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: You know, I still got just dawned on me. I've 558 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: still got a gift certificate. I won the Saint Elmo's 559 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: shrimp eating contest at the Women's In It event. 560 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 3: You identified as a woman, competed, kicked, but got the price. 561 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: I was the celebrity rep on my team. Did I 562 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: not to talk about this on air? 563 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 2: I think? But you it was probably with the Casey. 564 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 1: So the Women's In It basketball tournam was at Hinkle 565 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: Fieldhouse in This would have been March, yeah maybe. 566 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it'd been when the tournament happened. 567 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: Property tax thing was still going on, can remember that, 568 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, it must have been. Must have been March. 569 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: And Saint Elmo's was one of the sponsors, I guess. 570 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: And so that at the halftime at one of the 571 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: games they had a shrimp eating contest amongst I think 572 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: it was Florida and I remember Minnesota maybe the two 573 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: team participated, right, okay, And so they wanted to quote 574 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: unquote celebrity on each one of the teams. They had 575 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: fans from those teams, and then I was the celebrity 576 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: for Florida and Minnesota. Had. I think somebody from Fox 577 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: fifty nine was on their team, and so we smoked. 578 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 3: Them and was it sauce and everything? 579 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, it was the whole deal. 580 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: I think each person had four of the shrimp, the 581 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: jumbo shrimp in the sauce. 582 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 2: Already that they had. The yew sauce was on top 583 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 2: of the thing. Wow. 584 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: So luckily I had done this with Hammer years ago 585 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: when Nigel's imagine this, Nigel was not here. Oh, by 586 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: the way, two thousandth episode of Nigel Today, big episode 587 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: for them. We're gonna have all sorts of old bits, 588 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: special guests from the past. They got a big show 589 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 1: coming up today, episode number two thousand, But Nigel's not here. 590 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 1: When Joey Chestnut was in town for one of the 591 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: big ten eating events and we had a shrimp eating 592 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: contest and armed Joey Chestnut being here, and so I 593 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: had I won it. Met I beat Hammer. Can you 594 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: believe that? Well in an eating contest. 595 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 3: Hammer lost another one I heard, so yeah, So I 596 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 3: had been I'd been through this before. 597 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: I knew what I was getting into, and so I 598 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: was the cleanup batter for our team. I was the 599 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,479 Speaker 1: last guy to go so we won the ship eating contest. 600 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: I got a gift certificate to Saint Elmo's Saint Elmo, 601 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 1: and I was yet to use it yet. 602 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 2: So I need to get on that at some point. 603 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 3: You're never going to go in there. Well it's it's 604 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,719 Speaker 3: great food, but you're frugal. Well, oh, but I think 605 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 3: the gift certificate would cover the thing. The problem is 606 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 3: my wife knows I got that gift certificate and she 607 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 3: wants to go with me, and so she'd be very 608 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 3: mad if I went and just used. 609 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 2: It on my y. That's my good deed for the day. 610 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 3: Take her. 611 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,719 Speaker 1: But the point is like just just eating out. I mean, 612 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: we've seen the closure of these sort of mid tier restaurants. 613 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: The top seem to be doing okay. The fast food 614 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: places are seem to be doing all right, But these 615 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: mid tier restaurants, you know, the the O Charlie type places. 616 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 2: Many of them are in real I mean. 617 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 3: Even so, I have the McDonald's app and they use 618 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 3: they offer like in app rewards, and I've seen the 619 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 3: reward go from like twenty five percent to twenty percent 620 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 3: off to now it's fifteen percent. 621 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 2: Off because they simply can't. 622 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 3: They're losing money giving the given the Yeah, so it's 623 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 3: gone down even that's gone down ten percent in a 624 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 3: couple months. 625 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 2: And then it comes back to in case. 626 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: I talked about this the other day about the I 627 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: can't remember how I got on this, but we're talking 628 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: about the people who are working these When I was 629 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: a kid, they were high school type jobs, right, and 630 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: so many young people. I can't remember how we got 631 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: on this was something we were disparaging young people probably, 632 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: and they probably deserved it. But how those people aren't 633 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: entering the workforce because COVID taught them, well, you don't 634 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: have to work. 635 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 3: And places are paying a little bit more. So now 636 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 3: you're getting the adults that'll go for seventeen I'll work 637 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 3: at Chick fil A. 638 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: But that's part of the problem, right, If you're paying 639 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: these people x amount what you have to do to 640 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: get adults to come in, it's going to rise. 641 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 2: The price of all the food is going to rise, 642 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 2: the price. 643 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: Of everything, which is why I don't go anywhere with 644 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: that A coupon wherever the cub ons come from. That's 645 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: what we're doing. That's what we're doing, Jerry, all right, 646 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: So beef, like everything else, getting extremely unaffordable. Hey, Political 647 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: had an interesting article. By the way, it's Kenell and 648 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: Casey Show. I'm Rob Jerry lopezz In for Casey Today. 649 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: Political had an interesting article about how much money Doge 650 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: has actually saved or in this case, not saved, and 651 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: they're basically saying that they were using an accounting trick 652 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, or smoking mirrors, that 653 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: Doze through July claimed to have saved fifty two point 654 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: eight billion dollars, but actually it may have only been 655 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: one point four billion dollars. 656 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 657 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 3: I don't want to bask my boy, but the moment 658 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 3: that the big beautiful bill came out, you saved nothing. 659 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it didn't matter what does found you blew 660 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 2: it anyway? 661 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: Well, isn't that what was interesting because we said this 662 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: math doesn't make sense that oh, Doge, this Doge that, well, 663 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: Doze isn't saving anywhere near what you guys are adding 664 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: to the debt. 665 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 2: Regardless of what in the bill. 666 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: But was what was interesting is Doge was trying to 667 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: say that the money when they would quote unquote safe 668 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: through contracts or whatever they would cut, et cetera. They 669 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: would try to say we saved money. But what they 670 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: were really doing was just reverting money back to these agencies. 671 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: We're moving it who are legally required to spend it. 672 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,479 Speaker 1: So we cut this contract, it's going back to this 673 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: government agency. They're just gonna spend it on something else. 674 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to doze it all over again. Yeah, 675 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: it's just it's the shell game. It's the shell game 676 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: with our dollars they founded this time, let's move it 677 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: over here to this so USA, let's just move the 678 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: funding over here instead. 679 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 2: Isn't that fascinating of how. 680 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: Just how completely screwed up our government is that, according 681 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: to Politico, you create this group whose job is to 682 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: cut government spending, but then they have to know full 683 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: well that because of the way the rules are written, 684 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: that money, it isn't like it's gonna can't give it back. 685 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: You have to give it to the government agency again, 686 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: who's just gonna have to find something else to spend 687 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: it on. And that's how screwed up. That's how I mean, 688 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: no business would run this way. 689 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 3: Well did Elon say that? He said, if this was 690 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 3: a business, everybody would be arrested and we'd be in 691 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 3: front of a court right now talking about these dollars. 692 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and yet in the gument it comes up. 693 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: And we talked about earlier with the Treasury Secretary trying 694 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: to ban the stock trading. If any other group did, 695 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: or any other person did what our elected official officials 696 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: are allowed to do, it would be called insider trading, 697 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: and you would go directly to federal PRIs the Stewart Smart. 698 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 2: The Stewart with the jail. Yeah for less, for less, 699 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 2: way less, Jerry. 700 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: And yet because these people are in the government and 701 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: they write the rules to protect and benefit themselves, they're 702 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: allowed to not only do it, but get away with 703 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: it in the free and clear and can do it 704 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: in front of everybody and it's fine. 705 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 2: And so it's the. 706 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: Same thing here. No business would ever be able to 707 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: operate this way. But because government only, I was talking 708 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: about it like pac Man, right. The government is the 709 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: pac Man character and its job is to keep eating. 710 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: Government eats everything it comes in contact with. It never shrinks, 711 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: it always grows. And this is another example. Hey, take 712 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: a break when we come back. The Hammer was not 713 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: with us today abu stuff going on, But yesterday I 714 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: joined The Hammer Nigel Show. We did a big interview 715 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: with Pat Perez of Live Golf. The tournament kicks off tomorrow, 716 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: taken over out in Westfield, So I want to play 717 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: a little bit if Pat was awesome, Man, it was 718 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: a great It was a great guest, great interview. 719 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 2: We'll play that play before you come out next to 720 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 2: Keiller case Show ninety three W ninety three w IBC. 721 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 2: It is the Kennell and Casey Show. And Robbie Acy 722 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 2: out today. Jerry Lopez is here. Are gonna wrap up 723 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 2: the program today a little little something special for you. 724 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: Yesterday I hopped on the Hammer and Nigel Show, you know, 725 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: do the off the Rail segment every Thursday. 726 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 2: Did a little something different yesterday. Though. 727 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: Of course Live Golf is in town. They're gonna be 728 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: in Westfield this weekend. Chatham Hills an incredible golf course. 729 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: This tournament's getting all sorts of publicity. And Pat Perez, 730 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: one of the former members of Live Golf now a 731 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: commentator for Live Golf, joined Jason Hammer as well as 732 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: myself talking about the big event going on in Westfield. 733 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: And here is that conversation. 734 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 5: Pat, You've given one of the great answers anybody could 735 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 5: ever give. I think it was Golf Digest spoke to 736 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 5: you about making that transition from the playing course to 737 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 5: the broadcast crew, and I've got it right in front 738 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 5: of me quote, I'm going to try not to get 739 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 5: arrested or shot. 740 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've done good so far. I've got two events 741 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 4: left where they could get me, but somehow held it 742 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 4: together so far. They keep asking me to come back. 743 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 2: A pat of Rob Kendall here. 744 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: I'm curious how you made the choice to go to 745 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: live because obviously every player, especially early on, you were 746 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: one of the early guys to go. It was such 747 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: a high profile decision. What went into your your your 748 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: decision making process to leave the PGA Tour and had 749 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: to live. 750 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 4: Really, I couldn't turn on the money. I mean, at 751 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 4: my age is forty six. You know, we're starting a 752 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 4: new league and I was kind of struggling. I don't 753 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 4: want to be on the road a ton, and as 754 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 4: much as I love the PGA Tour, you know, it 755 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 4: was just hard to turn out. DJ called me, and 756 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 4: you know, it was just it was a hard decision. 757 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,959 Speaker 4: But I don't know, not really, I guess it was 758 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 4: it was just something I don't know. It was just 759 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,239 Speaker 4: it was put in fun of me and I had 760 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 4: to think about it for about a week and I 761 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 4: just ultimately start thinking about what could happen, and you 762 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 4: know what, was I going to be? Well? Was I 763 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 4: gonna be able to compete against the John Rams and 764 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 4: you know all these new kids coming up at forty six, seven, 765 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 4: eight nine, up to fifty And I thought, no, I 766 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 4: probably not going to I could lose my card in 767 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 4: a year and then then what you know, then I'm 768 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 4: sitting around waiting for the Champions Tour, you know. So 769 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 4: I just I went for it. And it was. It 770 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 4: was a fun three years, It really was. It was. 771 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 4: It was it was a you know, a new thing, 772 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,479 Speaker 4: and it was pretty Uh, it's pretty cool. 773 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 5: Are you having fun now? I compare the fun level 774 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 5: like being out on the road with the live guys, 775 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 5: where you know, the rules are a little lack you 776 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 5: can wear shorts, you can do some of the things 777 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 5: you can't do on the PGA tour. Are you having 778 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 5: more fun now or was it more fun back in 779 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 5: the day? 780 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 4: Well, when we were winning. When we were winning, so 781 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,399 Speaker 4: I knew, you know, we're making a bowload of cast. 782 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 4: So yeah, it was a lot of fun. You know, 783 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 4: I'm not playing now obviously, but you know, I've got 784 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 4: some I don't know what I'm gonna do. Well, I'm 785 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 4: turning fifteen March, so I'm hoping I can play a 786 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 4: Champions Tour next year and kind of do both. That's 787 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 4: that would be like a perfect world for me. But yeah, 788 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 4: I mean it's relaxed. I'm still with all my boys 789 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 4: I played with forever. You know. Now it's kind of 790 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 4: funny because I get to comment on their shots, and 791 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 4: you know, they don't really get the same thing to 792 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 4: me because I called away this right, So I mean, 793 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 4: is what it is. 794 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 5: You get to bust their balls on television. 795 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 2: They have to sit there and take it. 796 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,479 Speaker 4: It's actually fun. But they're not about. I don't wear about. 797 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 4: I don't wear about too bad. They're they're off to 798 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 4: my boys. But yeah, it's different. It's obviously different. They 799 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 4: you know, I finished forty eight last year but didn't 800 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 4: get signed to another team, so you know, they offered 801 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 4: me TV. I said, sure, you know, and then I'll 802 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 4: see what happens when I turn fifty. Maybe I can 803 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 4: play a Champions Tour and that would be uh, you 804 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 4: know something. I spent twenty one years on a PGA 805 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 4: Tour doing to be able to qualify for that tour 806 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 4: straight out, So we'll see what happens. 807 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: Live Golf commentator Pat Perez is our guest Lives going 808 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: to be here in Westfield Chatham Hill August fifteenth through 809 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: the seventeenth. 810 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 2: So one of the cool things. 811 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: About Live, you guys play a lot of courses that 812 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: golf fans might have heard about, but because the PGA 813 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: tours on a regular schedule, we never got to see 814 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: talk about seeing some of these new courses, like the 815 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: ones you're gonna play this week here in Indiana. Yeah. 816 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 4: I'm actually on the third hole right now at the 817 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 4: Ashes and it's a pretty cool spy reminds me of course, 818 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 4: I've played a Mondy the U S overn Cualifier at 819 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 4: what do you call it? Mierfield, and it's cool and 820 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 4: it's an awesome joint. Hevery you know, the house is 821 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 4: all different colors, the course, them fives in great shape. 822 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 4: The boys seem to like it's it's a cool little spot. 823 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 4: It's always nice to see a new joint. And again 824 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 4: I was talking to I was talking to GM here 825 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 4: Matt and I said, you know, what do you think 826 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 4: about this week? He goes. We got seventy thousand people 827 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 4: coming out here. Is we are so starved for golf 828 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 4: in Indiana because the last time we were, you know, 829 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 4: the last time I was even here, I played Crooked 830 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 4: Stick for the BMW. So the fans are ready, you 831 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 4: guys know better anybody. It's a huge sports town. We 832 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 4: were downtown, you know, yesterday checking out. We went to 833 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 4: the zoo and checked out for a little bit with 834 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 4: my son and you know, passed by Lucas Oil and 835 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 4: you know, the Fever game was there last night and 836 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 4: it was uh town's rocket. I mean, it's obviously a 837 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 4: huge sports town and you know with the paces this 838 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 4: year was was huge. So well, golf has just not 839 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 4: Golf has just not been here enough unfortunately. But I's 840 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 4: gonna be out and they're gonna be out heavy this year. 841 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 5: So what are these sports fans in Indie going to see? 842 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 3: Uh? 843 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 5: Starting on the fifteenth, take us through what a live 844 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 5: event really is like. 845 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 4: Well, they started to open the gates about two hours 846 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,879 Speaker 4: early and then they get to see everybody play at once. 847 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 4: A difference between the live and the PGA tours. You know, 848 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 4: if you want to see everybody all, your all, your 849 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 4: you know, people you want to see play, You've got 850 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 4: to be there all day because the tea times right. Well, 851 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 4: this is like going to a football game or soccer 852 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 4: game or basketball game. You get to see everybody at 853 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 4: once and it's played in about four and a half hours. 854 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 4: Everybody's on the course the same time, so you can 855 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:49,800 Speaker 4: go back and forth, or you can pick one of 856 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 4: the great spots to like Club fifty four or the 857 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 4: Bertie Sack or some of these spots on the course 858 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 4: that are like party scenes and they got a party hole. 859 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 4: You know, you can hang out and you know, drink 860 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 4: and listen to music and it's a cool vibe. But 861 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 4: you're going to see some really really good players go by. 862 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 4: No matter where you are on the course, they're going 863 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 4: to pass by you at the same time, you know 864 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 4: as everybody else. So it's pretty cool. 865 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: Pat Prez our guest Live Golf coming to Westfield Chatham 866 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: Hills August fifteenth through the seventeenth. Okay, so tell us, 867 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 1: I mean there, Look, there's a lot of big names. Obviously, 868 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: got rom you got Cam Smith, Michelson, I mean some 869 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: huge Dustin Johnson Brook DJ. 870 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 2: Yes, that's right. 871 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 1: But I think the biggest known Quantity Live has is 872 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: Bryson to Shambo to talk about watching that guy hit 873 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 1: a drive and what that experience is like. 874 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 4: You know, you know, knowing Bryce as long as I have. 875 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 4: I met Hi when he came out, when he was 876 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,800 Speaker 4: small and scrawny and you know, didn't hit it a 877 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 4: mile and he was more of a you know, practical 878 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 4: type of player. And now the pactic shirt are a 879 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 4: little different. But now his tactory is just hit as 880 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 4: far as he can get near the green, you know, 881 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 4: like he did at wing Foot and and when you know, 882 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 4: but he just t He's just kind of transformed himself. 883 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 4: But the watch me the Drivers is amazing, I'm telling you. 884 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 4: But I'm telling you this new kid that we got, 885 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 4: this hostal A Biaster that who lost the playoff last 886 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 4: week with rom And and Dean Murby, Dean Burmester, this 887 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 4: kid hit it a mile. I'm telling you, I think 888 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 4: his numbers are actually faster than Bryson's. So if you're 889 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,800 Speaker 4: coming out to watch this week, check for hostl a Biaster. 890 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 4: You will not believe how far this kid, this kid 891 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 4: hits it. 892 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: Hey, would you address people? Do you end everything with? 893 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 1: But what do I know? 894 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 2: I just won four times on the PGA Tour. 895 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 4: Now, well, you know that's one thing that at least 896 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 4: I can give a little bit of knowledge because I 897 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 4: you know, I played so long, but you know, I 898 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 4: would kill to have played like these guys for longer 899 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 4: because I would have had a much better career. But uh, 900 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 4: you know, but I grew up in the Tiger era, 901 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 4: so nobody's ever going to beat him. But you know, 902 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 4: it's it's it's cool to watch these guys, but it's 903 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 4: it's I kind of learned, Like I'm like learning things 904 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 4: from these top players. You know, I played with rom 905 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 4: at home all the time at Silverly, so I can 906 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 4: see him, you know, up closer and in personal all 907 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 4: the time. But uh, you know, see Bryson play all 908 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 4: the time. And you know, like Burmester, he played some 909 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 4: now in the last week, and you know it's it's 910 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,359 Speaker 4: kind of cool. So he's got the kind of unsung guy. 911 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 4: The guy that he really talks about enough is Teryl Hatton. 912 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 4: He's played phenomenous here. But it is really cool to 913 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 4: watch Byson player. I mean the way he attacks and 914 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 4: the lions he does and all the stuff he puts 915 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 4: into every single shot. It's like nothing I've ever seen. 916 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 4: It's just a completely different process of how anybody else 917 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 4: attacks the game. 918 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: Hammer You would love Tyrell Hatton. He swears all the 919 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: time on the golf course. That's his love him, That's 920 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 1: what I'm betting on. 921 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:27,439 Speaker 3: That's my guy. 922 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 2: That's where my money's going this week. And then, damn it, 923 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 2: I bet it's a good bet. 924 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 5: Hey, Pat, last night here before we let you go, 925 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 5: Pat Perez with us Live Golf coming to Chatham Hills. 926 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 5: Best golf movie character not best golf movie, because that 927 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 5: argument's played out. If you could be a golf character, 928 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 5: is it Tim Cupp, is it Happy Gilmore? Is it 929 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 5: the Smalls kid picking his nose in caddy shack? Like, 930 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 5: give me a golf character that you think is awesome. 931 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 4: I mean the best one I've seen to date was 932 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 4: JD and Happy to Get More. That is, he was 933 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 4: so good now, but he actually saved the movie. I 934 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 4: mean he was phenomenal in that movie. I mean playing 935 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 4: in the you know, the kind of I don't want 936 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 4: to say bum but the know the guy living the 937 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 4: garage and that's I mean, he was awesome. Now, he 938 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 4: was so good, But best character has got to be 939 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 4: judge smails. I mean, I mean the guys, I mean 940 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 4: just amazing, you know, but I mean honestly, and all 941 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 4: I see it's Rodney dangs Fell one hundred percent. Al 942 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 4: Chervik no better character than any golf movie anytime. 943 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: Pat Perez former player, no commentator for Live Golf. Big 944 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,879 Speaker 1: live event going on in Westfield this weekend. That's gonna 945 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: be fascinating to see the turnout. And uh it's almos 946 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 1: gonna be fascinating to see how Live remains a force 947 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,840 Speaker 1: in the game of golf. That's gonna do it for 948 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 1: us today. Thanks to Jerry for filling in Kevin. Thanks 949 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 1: is always the most partly thank you to you. Without you, 950 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: there is no us. It's Kenvill and case Jo. Just 951 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: stick around. Tony Katz coming up next ninety three w 952 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 1: IBC