1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Hammer and Nigel do you believe these characters are weirdos? Oh, 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: my name is Nigel Jason Hammer right over there. Still 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: getting a lot of reaction to our little chat. Beers 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: with Governor Mike, Beers with Braun, that's what we should 5 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: call it when he comes in here, Beers with Braun. 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: Governor Mike Braun yesterday in studio Hammer. 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: About the record, coldly state we were gonna have beers 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: either way. 9 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 3: The governor just happened to be here. 10 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: I I made sure to have some on hand because 11 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: I think the last time he was here we had 12 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: I don't I don't think we had any. And give 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: me a look like what the what? What? Like? 14 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 3: You know, he's the only reason I'm sure to talk 15 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 3: to you idiots. I was told there'd be beer. 16 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: Uh So, so what do you what do we take 17 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: away from our conversation with the governor yesterday? See this 18 00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: seems like to me still like there says a puncher's 19 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: chance for redistricting, and he wasn't afraid to share his 20 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: contempt with Rod Bray. That's what I took away from it. 21 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 3: No, there's some. 22 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: Bad blood clearly between the governor and the Senate pro 23 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 2: tem Rod Bray. There is bad blood and it's not 24 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 2: just between him. We had State Senator Mike youngloan yeah, 25 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: yesterday and he mentioned that there was a big disconnect 26 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: in the Indiana Senate right now. 27 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 3: So it's kind of a mess right now. 28 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: But if you missed that conversation, Allison put it up 29 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: on social media. The podcast is up at WIBC dot com. 30 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: But here are some highlights of yesterday. And again Governor 31 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: Braun still clinging to the idea that if the House, 32 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: who has agreed to take a look at changing the 33 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: congressional maps, if they can pass something through, then the 34 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: Senate would have to come in because it would then 35 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: go to them. 36 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 3: So he's not giving up on it. 37 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: But here is the governor of Indiana, Governor Mike Brawn 38 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: on the leader of the Senate, Rob Bray. 39 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 4: This is someone making a miscalculation that for some genteel purpose, 40 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 4: when the President has talked to him twice, Vice President 41 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 4: has come in twice, and he's trying to justify that 42 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,119 Speaker 4: there's not a need to do something because he's. 43 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 3: Not in the mood to do it. And then today. 44 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 4: When the House broke with the Senate, that's the biggest 45 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 4: news of the day. 46 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 3: So he is. 47 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 4: Getting cornered more and more, and why you would dig in. 48 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 4: You need to bring this vote to the public forum, 49 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 4: get the maps that they're going to be sent to him, 50 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 4: get him across the finish line, or else said, he's 51 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 4: going to be dealing with him and his whole bunch 52 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 4: of folks that have held out to where they had 53 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 4: to have Democrats today, get him across the finish line. 54 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 4: They're going to be looking at longer term political consequences, 55 00:02:58,880 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 4: and Trump's. 56 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 3: Made that very clear. 57 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: Democrats. Yeah, that's one point Braun kept on bringing up. Yeah, 58 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: the Democrats help and for God's sake, I mean Rod Bray, 59 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: the Center pro Tem, his pictures on the Washington Post, 60 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: Indiana lawmakers standing up to Donald Trump and redistricting. 61 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 3: I mean, what does. 62 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 2: That say, right, The happiest people are the Democrats, the 63 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: Washington Post Politico writers, those are the happiest people. So 64 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 2: as a Republican, you're everything that they say about you. 65 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:34,399 Speaker 3: Right. 66 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: Remember that great speech that the late football coach Denny 67 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: Green made about the Bears. 68 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: They are where we thought they were. 69 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: The Bears are who we thought they were, and we 70 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,119 Speaker 2: let them off the hook. That's the way the Republicans 71 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: are right now. The Democrats will look at them. They 72 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: know they're weak, they know their squish, and they are 73 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: who we thought they were. And you're letting Andre Carson 74 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: and Frank Mervan off the hook. It's the same speed, 75 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: which just applied in a different way. 76 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: Now. 77 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: Another interesting part I thought of our conversation with the 78 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: governor yesterday was when we asked him flat out, and 79 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: this is a question a lot of people have. There 80 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: are folks that are in favor of changing the congressional map, 81 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 2: but some folks that were really in favor of getting 82 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: some money back on their property taxes. How are these 83 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 2: special sessions different? Why pick this battle? Why get Washington 84 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: involved into this battle? Where was this moxie when it 85 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: came to property taxes and all these other issues. 86 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 4: So the battle was picked by the president in terms 87 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 4: of doing it, and Texas did it, Missouri did it, 88 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 4: North Carolina did it. So you should be able to 89 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 4: put two and two together there, and they asked us 90 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 4: to do it. And it was probably three months ago, 91 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 4: and we were picking them off in a way that 92 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 4: had an organic process to it. Time became an issue 93 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 4: when I saw that Bray looked like he was going 94 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 4: to try to run out the clock. That is when 95 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 4: I decided to call a special session because at that 96 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 4: point both the White House and our accounting showed us 97 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 4: at twenty one to twenty two senators, fourteen public, six 98 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 4: or seven private. Yes, that is the move that he 99 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,799 Speaker 4: made that I think was a mistake because he thought 100 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 4: by not doing it, he then could delay it or 101 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 4: it doesn't get done. That is what irritated the president. 102 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 4: It irritated me, and picking the battle on property taxes, 103 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 4: you got to remember that was SB one. Then he 104 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 4: and his leadership team gutted it, so we had to 105 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 4: spend three months to get it back to where it was. 106 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 4: Didn't please everyone, but most people when they know that 107 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 4: their home is going to be exempted sixty six percent 108 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 4: of it in five years, and you couldn't have jerked 109 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 4: the money away immediately. The loudest complainers are Republican local 110 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 4: government officials, believe it or not. So that was the 111 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 4: best we were in. Again, it wasn't worth starting over, 112 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 4: and you can see why because look who we're dealing with. 113 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 3: This guy is. 114 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 4: Now digging in against the President of the United States, 115 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 4: the VP, and look what he's doing. 116 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: So again you can tell the animosity there between the 117 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 2: governor and the Senate pro tem and for Brian, who 118 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: chimes in on our YouTube chat, by all means, we 119 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 2: encourage everybody to get in the mix. All opinions are 120 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 2: welcome here. Brian simply writes, nobody wants these damn maps. 121 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 3: I want them. 122 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 5: I live in Marion County. I want it, and big 123 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 5: picture for the country, I want it. Is that a problem? No, 124 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 5: Like there's there's two different things going on here. Your 125 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 5: representative is Andre Carson, correct, do nothing just a legacy pick. 126 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 5: Legacy pick that's writing on his grandma's name. 127 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: And and then you know, I asked point blank to 128 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: the governor to his face. We cross the twenty twenty 129 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: six midterms and the Republicans as a whole or down 130 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: a few seats in the House, everybody's gonna be looking 131 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: at us. 132 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: Right right. It's easy for a lot of these folks. 133 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: That don't live in an area where you're affected to 134 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: be the moral high ground. We don't want to do 135 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: what the Democrats are doing, even though they're doing this 136 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: in California, Illinois, and New York. 137 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 3: It have been for years. 138 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: We're going to take the high ground. Good for you. You 139 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 2: probably live in Hendricks County. Maybe you live somewhere else 140 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: in Hamilton County. I live in Marion County and I'm 141 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: stuck with a zero. And I'm sure the folks that 142 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: live in frank Mervan's County up by the South Bend 143 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 2: area would probably say, yeah, we're stuck with. 144 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 3: The zero two. 145 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: I get out of the nine areas in Indiana, only 146 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: two would be affected by this. 147 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I live in one of them. 148 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 2: It's not the biggest thing in the world for me, 149 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 2: but I would've liked to have fired Andre Carson. 150 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: Can I tell you a side note? Just like when 151 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: the microphones were off, when he was telling me how 152 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: he bumped Donald Trump's calls, I thought it was He 153 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: thought it was spam because it said Washington, d C. 154 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: And like the last few numbers were zero zero zero zero. 155 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: He like bumped it like three times. 156 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 2: I asked, somebody wanted a loan student loan scam call. 157 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: Then he's gonna message from Trump it's your favorite president. 158 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: Governor Brian, your favorite president called me back your Senate later, 159 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 3: he's a weeself. We need to talk. I thought that 160 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 3: was that was the most that wasn't even on the air.