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Speaker 1: You were listening to a fan morning show on sports

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Speaker 1: Radio ninety three five and one oh seven fan.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Mark Dyton, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say,

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Speaker 3: our next guest has probably heard this fight song a

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Speaker 3: time or two.

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Speaker 4: I would have imagine he owes all the words to it,

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Speaker 4: probably too.

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, congrats the Virginia Cavaliers and the win last night.

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Speaker 3: The Pacers back in action tonight, Pacers and Bulls inside

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Speaker 3: a gamebridge Fieldhouse. We head of the paylistickers hotline right

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Speaker 3: now and it is the head coach, Rick Carlisle coach.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, congrats to your.

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Speaker 1: Who's wit game.

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Speaker 3: Gosh, it was unreal, tremendous game, great back and forth. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: shot making the shot to send it in to the

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Speaker 3: second overtime. I probably won't get over for quite a while.

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Speaker 3: And yes, as your text did say, it was indeed

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Speaker 3: along ride home for me.

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Speaker 2: So thank you.

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Speaker 1: Well. It's hard to root against either team as that

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Speaker 1: game was unfolding. I mean, both teams were just going

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Speaker 1: so hard that Virginia was trying to figure out, you know,

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Speaker 1: how to get back into it and then how to

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Speaker 1: get over the hump, and then you know Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: just I mean young team, and yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 1: all the players, but you know, I mean Micah is

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Speaker 1: over there coaching his brains out and going just just

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Speaker 1: doing everything possible. His son hits that one shot and

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Speaker 1: you think, yeah, that's it, you know, but you know,

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Speaker 1: Virginia's experience and I guess in the end showed through

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Speaker 1: and and the kid, the smallest kid in the court,

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Speaker 1: had quit an impact Mallory, you know, for them. So

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Speaker 1: it was a great win for them, and I'm sure

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Speaker 1: there will be a lot of growth for the for

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Speaker 1: a young Notre Dame team.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, are you a are you a college basketball watcher?

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Speaker 1: A lot?

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Speaker 3: You know on off nights or how much college basketball

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Speaker 3: do you watch? Would you say during the season.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say a lot normally, But I'm quite familiar

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Speaker 1: with the Virginia team because I was. I was down

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Speaker 1: there a lot this this spring and fall and probably

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Speaker 1: saw I don't know anywhere from fifteen to eighteen of

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Speaker 1: And Ryan otom I'm known for ages. You know, he

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Speaker 1: games when I can. You know, they're a very disappointing

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Speaker 1: really tough. And then you know, the first half of

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Speaker 1: this game last night was even tougher and then but

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Speaker 3: It was chatheth narda staff for the game, and they

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Speaker 3: were very, very impressed by what Virginia has done this season.

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Speaker 3: Obviously saw that when the game was on the line

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Speaker 3: last night again Pacers Bulls tonight inside of Gambridge Filthouse.

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Speaker 3: Rick Carlisle Company back from a long, long road trip.

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Speaker 3: I do want to start with certainly one of the

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Speaker 2: You know, you brought up the word force a lot with.

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Speaker 3: Him in where you want to see growth in particular

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Speaker 1: Really in all areas. You know, his level of experience,

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Speaker 1: you know, he's experienced a lot of the highs and lows.

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Speaker 1: The young players go through the expectation of being a

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Speaker 3: In Rick Carlisle with the Pas and Bulls tonight, their

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Speaker 3: kind of re MyD I did at the game last night,

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Speaker 3: both teams certainly was looking over the bench to their

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Speaker 3: respective laptop challenge areas throughout that game. You you brought

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Speaker 3: And I guess in regards to that specific situation, what

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Speaker 1: Well, we have the ability to bring you know, the

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Speaker 3: Rick Carlisle with the Sire Again Pacers Bulls tonight inside

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Speaker 3: a game Bridge Field House.

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Speaker 2: They'll have a couple of days off and then it'll.

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Speaker 3: Be Atlanta again as they play a few home games

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Speaker 3: here before trade deadline and All Star Break coming up

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Speaker 3: in February. I was listening yesterday to Tyrese Haliburton on

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Speaker 3: Lebron's podcast Coach, and you know, I'm always blown away,

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Speaker 3: frankly when Tyreese is talking about the game of basketball,

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Speaker 3: and we played the audio a little bit earlier. He

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Speaker 3: brought up specifically trying to learn a little bit, you know,

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Speaker 3: and wanting to get to the foul line a little

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Speaker 3: things like that as a driver. Has that been a

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Speaker 3: conversation you guys have had here as he obviously rehab

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, going through an injury like this is

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Speaker 3: They were showing like shots outside of the arena, you know,

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Speaker 2: Growing up. I would say, well, back.

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Speaker 1: In Augensburg, we used to get tons of snow. We

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Speaker 3: That is an understatement to say the least there next year,

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Speaker 3: Should I pencil you in you and I making the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I I may let the urge pass on that.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's a long it's a very long trip,

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Speaker 2: I know it's yeah, it's always frustrated me.

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Speaker 3: The lack of fandom, the lack of passion is really

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. I was frankly frustrated by that.

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Speaker 1: Seventeen seventeen right, Yeah, did you go to Nor Dame

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Speaker 1: or what's your what's your fix, fixation or fascination with it?

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Speaker 2: I'm too dumb and too poor.

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Speaker 3: My mom's uncle taught, and the trickle down effects instilled

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Speaker 1: Well, there's there's core of basketball tradition too, you go

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Speaker 2: But yeah, Digger was in the building last night.

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Speaker 2: He's there pretty much every game.

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Speaker 3: I see him on TV almost every game and was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome.

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Speaker 3: All right, good luck tonight, coach. Glad you guys got

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Speaker 1: Okay, thanks ticker.

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Speaker 3: Rick Carlisle, Mark Dykedn.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't say it's a definite night. No, No, I think

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Speaker 4: I think you get him a little heads up next year,

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Speaker 2: He could have told you.

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Speaker 1: You know, I can't say I appreciate the question, but

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Speaker 1: I acknowledge the question.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't the case at all.

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Speaker 3: I've had co Ed's respond to texts from me back

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Speaker 3: in the day a little harsher. Then Rick Carlisle just

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Speaker 3: answered that invite.

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Speaker 4: He said, I wouldn't say it was it's a no,

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Speaker 4: So I would say, dip your toe in the water

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Speaker 4: next year once the schedule comes out, and yeah, see

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