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Speaker 1: We continue on with our conversation about Destiny Wells how

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Speaker 1: Andre Carson. He's been in that chair since two thousand

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Speaker 1: and eight. Destiny Wells filed against him for the same seat.

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Speaker 2: She got her her filing in just under the deadline.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we should not be surprised.

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Speaker 4: It's an election year, Destiny Wells gonna be running for something.

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Speaker 4: What is kind of interesting in this couple of things

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Speaker 4: reasons she decided to run against Andre Carson is quite yeah,

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Speaker 4: spite because according to her, Andre Carson opposed her when

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Speaker 4: she ran to be head of the Democrat Party in

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Speaker 4: this Indiana. She narrowly lost that vote, and she kind

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Speaker 3: Even if you feel.

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Speaker 4: That way, maybe not the best thing to come out

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Speaker 3: That are like, yeah, Spiked, that's who I vote for.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Spite's a big motivator.

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Speaker 4: It's a big motivator for her, but it is a

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Speaker 4: motivator for anybody else. Does anybody care that Andre Carson

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Speaker 4: That's generally what gets people excited, not your own personal

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Speaker 4: other big thing about this, too is andre Carson already

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Speaker 4: Looks like I'm guessing here that he's got some outside

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Speaker 4: Destiny Wells is probably going to do because if you're

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Speaker 4: My guess is all those two are going to do

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Speaker 2: Just going to water down the votes.

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Speaker 1: Well she's been really critical of the Democrat Party leadership

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Speaker 4: And if she'd come out and said what you just said, Hey,

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Speaker 2: It's a better argument than you'dn't vote for me to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 4: That's something that you can say, publa, and that's something

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Speaker 4: I just don't see any avenue for her here because

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Speaker 1: But in her mind, she's probably thinking this is going

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Speaker 2: He's not helping.

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Speaker 4: And you know what, And maybe I shouldn't be surprised

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Speaker 3: For her winning this primary against Andrew.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like they're.

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Speaker 2: Eating their own though.

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Speaker 1: In a situation like this, when you have this infighting

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Speaker 1: it just makes them all look weaker. But at the

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Speaker 4: Might make you work harder. But he's gonna win the

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Speaker 4: I get them, I get the infighting on the Republican side.

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Speaker 4: In the state of Indiana, Republicans have a super majority.

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Speaker 4: Democrats haven't won a state elected office in over twenty years.

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Speaker 3: They're irrelevant.

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Speaker 4: So we start farting with ourselves on things like redistricting

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Speaker 4: I get that, but Democrats in fighting. You guys, if

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Speaker 1: So Indiana leaders are continuing their efforts to lure the

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Speaker 1: You've got House Speaker Todd Houston who is actively involved

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Speaker 1: in advancing this plan. Senate Bill twenty seven created the

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Speaker 2: This authority would help them acquire.

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Speaker 1: Land, issue long term bonds, and also lease a stadium

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Speaker 1: The bill has passed the Senate and now moves to

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Speaker 1: he'll go out of his way for those Chicago Bears,

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Speaker 2: Hey, when it comes to helping.

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Speaker 4: You, is there some billionaire that needs a whole bunch

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Speaker 4: there is a silver lining in any of this, I

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Speaker 4: love to point out how Illinois is such a dumpster

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Speaker 3: So I kind of like that's the silver.

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Speaker 4: Lining all this is, we get to stick it to

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Speaker 3: With, And it is as simple as this.

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Speaker 4: If you don't buy your team a free stadium, somebody

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Speaker 4: And there are plenty of other teams that leverage this look.

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Speaker 3: Oakland, Oakland.

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Speaker 4: The city of Oakland just a few years ago used

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Speaker 3: In less than three years, all three of those.

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Speaker 4: Major sports franchises left the city of Oakland. Not good

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Speaker 2: He yeah, but here's the problem.

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Speaker 1: So these lawmakers they are going to frame it as

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Speaker 1: what they're doing is they're subsidizing the sports franchise and

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they're going to get saddled with long term

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Speaker 4: a bunch of construction jobs. Again, this is if the

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Speaker 4: Bears society, but they're also short term jobs. Okay, but

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Speaker 4: they're not nothing either. And then they're going to get

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Speaker 4: a whole bunch of service jobs that'll be part of that.

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Speaker 4: Not great service jobs, but okay, service jobs. There'll be

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Speaker 4: other tax revenue that'll be generated from that. Look, the

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Speaker 4: state of Indiana isn't going to make their money back

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Speaker 4: from this from an economic growth standpoint.

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Speaker 2: There's bragging rights.

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Speaker 3: Then it's bragging rights, it's politicians.

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Speaker 2: What are you bragging about? Though?

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Speaker 4: Well, here, lowly little Indiana is going to have two

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Speaker 4: NFL teams located in our state.

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Speaker 3: Not bad.

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Speaker 4: Now, Again, if you care about that, I care more

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Speaker 4: I'm not for this. I'm against this. I don't like

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Speaker 1: Now, there are a lot of people who are turning

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Speaker 4: Have you seen the ratings for the NFL Pretty good?

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Speaker 1: See about yesterday's game because that that game was a snoozer.

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Speaker 3: But you're right, it's probably gonna see that.

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Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, there's nothing bigger

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Speaker 3: People said that.

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Speaker 4: They were going to leave the NFL when Colin Kaepernick

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Speaker 3: Nobody left it. It was about the.

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Speaker 2: Pride, It was Alm messaging.

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Speaker 4: Nobody cares because you just keep coming back and watching

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Speaker 3: Not even close.

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Speaker 3: Even talking about them? Like sixteen and no Big ten championships.

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Speaker 4: Neither of them had Fernando Mendoz of their quarterback. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: You're still more.

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Speaker 4: College Football Championship was still ten times better than what

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Speaker 2: You're listening to ninety three WIBC. Good morning. Somebody commented

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Speaker 4: By the way, you can watch us on YouTube. Just

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Speaker 4: But it's bizarre. But the people in the comments on

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Speaker 2: Where did you go to get your haircut?

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Speaker 3: It was great, wonderful.

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Speaker 2: While you were getting your haircut.

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Speaker 1: Did you happen to see the Trump account Super Bowl commercial?

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Speaker 3: I did not that air during the game.

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Speaker 4: I was there well, well many many hours before the

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, here's a reminder. This is what it

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Speaker 5: Sixteen nine seven, it could change my future, all our future.

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Speaker 5: I want to be a nurse, go to college, you

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Speaker 5: a businesswoman. I can save for a house, to the trampoline,

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Speaker 5: to Trampoh. This year, every American child gets an investment

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Speaker 2: That's free money.

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Speaker 5: We can all expand, imagin dream, Sign me up.

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Speaker 2: Sign me up.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So there are a new IRA style investment savings

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Speaker 1: and it is for children born in January first, twenty

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Speaker 2: July twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: So they were expecting a huge surge of sign ups

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Speaker 2: You go and sign up and you're waiting for that money. Oh,

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Speaker 2: it's not going to be there till fourth of July.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: In the money all marketing, it's all branding.

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Speaker 4: By the way, the free money, what they're calling seed deposits,

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Speaker 4: government as part of this too. I also this is

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Speaker 4: I'm one hundred percent for this, because no tax dollars

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Speaker 4: no tax dollars are being spent on this. Love every

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Speaker 4: it's seven hundred horse power, and buy my girlfriend a

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Speaker 2: Let's get a case of beer and have a good time.

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Speaker 3: Look, I was eighteen once.

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Speaker 4: You throw a bunch of money, tens of thousands of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I might have done something stupid with it.

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Speaker 4: You think I might have bought a whole bunch of fireworks,

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Speaker 4: and you know other stupid stuff. You know, Like you said,

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Speaker 2: Wait, not at eighteen, somebody else is buying you that beer.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, point proven, But there is going to be We're

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Speaker 4: I'm sure there's something in the Trump accounts that Chuck

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Speaker 1: Critics are wondering whether wealthier families are going to benefit

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Speaker 2: It will turn people off.

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Speaker 4: It's possible, but look, look, we're all adults here. Life

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Speaker 4: and we'll do some educational things, we'll run some commercials,

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Speaker 3: And good for them.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think part of the problem, and you said it,

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Speaker 2: Well, what's going to happen for that company?

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Speaker 1: They're taking advantage of a government structure to diversify their portfolio,

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Speaker 4: If that's what it takes so that taxpayer dollars don't

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Speaker 3: Is it a perfect system?

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Speaker 4: No, Do you want it structured like Social Security were

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 4: Are you know, are companies like Fidelity and Vanguard going

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Speaker 3: Sure, they're going to benefit from this, ever saying.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'd rather them benefit from it then another government

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, maybe, but at least we're.

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Speaker 4: Not spending four hundred million dollars a taxpayer money to

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Speaker 3: In replace of the East wing of the White House.

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Speaker 4: It's not perfect, but it's always better than the government

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is.

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Speaker 4: Kind of a strategy that we've seen certain organizations and

444
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Speaker 4: companies come up with the last few years. And we

445
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Speaker 4: all know super Bowl commercials are extremely expensive. Eight million

446
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Speaker 4: dollars for thirty seconds this year. So if you've got

447
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Speaker 4: a brand or a business and you can't afford the

448
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Speaker 4: eight million dollars for a Super Bowl commercial, what a

449
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Speaker 4: lot of places are doing is they're producing the commercial

450
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Speaker 4: and then releasing it on social media on Super Bowl Sunday,

451
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Speaker 4: trying to kind of catch the wave of commercial discussion

452
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Speaker 4: and people watching commercials on Twitter and Facebook and get

453
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Speaker 4: some extra ooh from their marketing budget without actually having

454
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Speaker 4: to buy a commercial in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: The placement of this commercial might have been actually better

456
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Speaker 1: if they played it during the Turning Point USA halftime show.

457
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Speaker 1: They could have gotten some legs off of that.

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Speaker 4: Sure, I think the TPUSA halftime show was commercial free

459
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Speaker 4: correct that being so, but maybe next year, who knows,

460
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Speaker 4: if they do it again next year, they might start

461
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Speaker 4: selling some ads during this.

462
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Speaker 1: So this is a spot of Epstein's survivors, and here's

463
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Speaker 1: what they had to say.

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Speaker 6: After years of being kept apart, we're standing together, standing

465
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Speaker 6: together because this girl deserves.

466
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Speaker 1: The truth, because she deserves the truth, because we all

467
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Speaker 1: deserve the truth. Now what you're being shown is the survivors,

468
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Speaker 1: and their mouths are redacted.

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Speaker 4: It was a powerful commercial yeah, I wish it had

470
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Speaker 4: been aired during the Super Bowl yesterday, but it did

471
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Speaker 4: get some coverage again because they produced this and launched

472
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Speaker 4: it on social media on Super Bowl Sunday, trying to

473
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Speaker 4: ride that wave of interest in commercials, which happens one

474
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Speaker 4: day a year that people are interested in commercials, and

475
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Speaker 4: that was yesterday.

476
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Speaker 1: So you've got this headline and this comes from our

477
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Speaker 1: newsgathering partners at WISH TV, and they said FBI concluded

478
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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein wasn't running a sex trafficking ring for powerful

479
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Speaker 1: men file show. Okay, So they're saying that the FBI

480
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Speaker 1: reviewed the Justice Department records and investigated Epstein's finances, communications, homes,

481
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Speaker 1: and interviews with victims, and they found that through extensive research,

482
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Speaker 1: that there were not evidence that Epstein sexually abused any

483
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Speaker 1: underage girls.

484
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Speaker 4: According to this article, I think what they're talking from.

485
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Speaker 4: We've got two things here. You've got what you can

486
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Speaker 4: prove in a court of law, especially because some of

487
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 4: these crimes probably have statutes of limitations that have expired

488
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Speaker 4: by now. Others I'm sure don't, but it's what you

489
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 4: can prove in a court of law, and what just

490
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 4: looks awful terrible, creepy, bad behavior. And I think that's

491
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Speaker 4: why ultimately everybody is going to be frustrated by this

492
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Speaker 4: because I don't know if any of these people can

493
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Speaker 4: be prosecuted because.

494
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Speaker 3: I don't have enough evidence, and you sit there at somebody.

495
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Speaker 4: One of the big discussions this weekend came out Howard Lutnik,

496
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Speaker 4: who is Trump's Secretary of Commerce, was mentioned a lot

497
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Speaker 4: in the Epstein.

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Speaker 2: File, so here was neighbors with them.

499
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Speaker 4: It was a lot of discussion about Lutinik being at

500
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Speaker 4: Epstein's island, and there's a lot of circumstantial evidence that

501
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 4: looks like Howard Lutnick either did something wrong or something illegal,

502
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 4: or certainly was way too close to a guy who

503
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Speaker 4: had already been convicted for pedophilia to make people comfortable.

504
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Speaker 1: So what this article is saying, though, that regardless of

505
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Speaker 1: all of the conspiracy narratives about an organized network of

506
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Speaker 1: these powerful elites, the article is saying they're simply not

507
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Speaker 1: backed by evidence that these investigators found.

508
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and again this is coming from the FBI. Well

509
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Speaker 4: it's coming from them from an official. You know, evidence

510
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 4: is what can we prove in court, And I think

511
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 4: that that's where everybody is gonna end up really frustrated

512
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 4: on this because I don't know if there's enough here

513
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 4: to prove everything in court. Is there a ton of

514
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 4: circumstantial evidence or a bunch of these problem people, probably

515
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 4: really bad dudes who should have no business in public life.

516
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

517
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, but I don't know if there's enough there to

518
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 4: prove any of this in court. And of course, because

519
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 4: we're getting all of these files kind of slow rolled

520
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 4: over an extended.

521
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Speaker 3: Period of time, and a lot of them.

522
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Speaker 4: Are heavily redacted, it's really tough to come and sit

523
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Speaker 4: here to any firm conclusion that could stand up in

524
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Speaker 4: court that you know, person ch committed X crime.

525
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Speaker 1: So according to the Associated Press, they said videos and

526
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Speaker 1: photo sees from his properties did not show abuse or

527
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Speaker 1: involvement of other men. Investigators said no client list of

528
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: powerful associates was found. Of course, you have Giselene Maxwell,

529
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Speaker 1: who says that she's going to plead the fifth so.

530
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Speaker 2: She's not talking now.

531
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Speaker 1: Elon Musk came out and he said that he would

532
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Speaker 1: cover the legal defense costs for anybody who speaks the

533
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 1: truth about Epstein and gets sued over it. And then

534
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Speaker 1: you have Thomas Massey and he said that he's prepared

535
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Speaker 1: to invoke the quote nuclear option if the DOJ won't

536
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Speaker 1: unredact Epstein client names.

537
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Speaker 6: I'm ready to do that if the victims want me to.

538
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Speaker 6: They believe that the best way to get justice is

539
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Speaker 6: to force the DOJ to release these names. I've already

540
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Speaker 6: read one name in a committee with the FBI director there.

541
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Speaker 6: That's Jess Staley. And again he may or may not

542
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Speaker 6: be guilty, but he's been accused by these victims that

543
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Speaker 6: the lawyer tells me. And there are other names. I

544
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 6: don't have them in my possession, but if the victims

545
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 6: want to give them to me, I've expressed it.

546
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Speaker 4: I'm willing to do that.

547
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Speaker 6: But again, the best way is to force the DOJ

548
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 6: to release those names on those three or two forms.

549
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Speaker 1: So he warned that if Pam Bondi's Justice Department refuses

550
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Speaker 1: to release them, he'll read the names publicly himself. He

551
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 1: even put a post out on X and said what

552
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Speaker 1: file do you want me to look at? And then

553
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: he said, don't you know, just like if you see

554
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: one that somebody else has mentioned, don't keep reposting the

555
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: same thing if you agree with somebody, Just like it

556
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Speaker 1: had millions and millions of views in thousands of comments.

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Speaker 4: This is why people love Thomas Massey because, look we

558
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 4: talked about earlier. Look, if you want to be outraged

559
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 4: about bad money performing at the halftime show the Super Bowl,

560
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 4: knock yourself out. Not something I'm outraged about. I try

561
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Speaker 4: and save my outrage for things that really matter. And

562
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 4: this really matters. And man, this is why people love

563
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 4: Thomas Massey because he is just not stopping. It's not

564
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 4: enough for them to slow roll these files out and

565
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 4: make them heavily redacted. He's talking to these victims. He's

566
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Speaker 4: trying to fight for them, and he's not afraid to

567
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 4: push back against Donald Trump and Pam Bondi and other

568
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 4: people in the administration and say, look, if we don't

569
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 4: get this information out there, fine, I'm gonna walk myself

570
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 4: right down to the DOJ. I'm gonna get that and

571
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna start reading names so we can do it.

572
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 4: As Donald Trump said, we can either do it the

573
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 4: easy way or we can do it the hard way.

574
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 4: And again, this is why we need more people like

575
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 4: Thomas Massey in Congress, because they're not afraid to challenge

576
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 4: the institutions, to challenge the people in power to get

577
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 4: the to get to the bottom of this, which is

578
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 4: something that just every time you think, oh, this Epstein

579
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 4: case can't get any worse, This can't get any worse,

580
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 4: can't get any bigger, can't get any worse, Oh yeah

581
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 4: it does. It gets worse. So so transparency is what

582
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 4: we need in this. And I love Thomas Massey fighting

583
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Speaker 4: for these victims families.

584
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he better be care though, because there are people

585
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: who don't want that information getting out.

586
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

587
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 4: And so when when when you want to challenge the establishment,

588
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 4: when you want to challenge powerful people, you put a

589
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 4: target on your back, Which is another reason to give

590
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 4: props to Thomas Massey because it's not stopping him and

591
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 4: he's going to keep pushing on this and I would

592
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 4: I would just love to see him walk down to

593
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 4: the DOJ, get these documents unredacted and just get on

594
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 4: get on the you know, on the floor of Congress,

595
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 4: and start reading them off.

596
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: So a story that kind of took a back seat

597
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl and the Olympics was the saga

598
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Speaker 1: going on with Nancy Guthrie, eighty four year old mother

599
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Speaker 1: of Today co anchor Savannah Guthrie.

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Speaker 2: Of course, she was reported missing on February.

601
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Speaker 1: First and last scene at her home in Tucson, and

602
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: there have been some updates to this. Authorities say she

603
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Speaker 1: was taken against her will. The home is being treated

604
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Speaker 1: as a crime scene. They did found blood at her

605
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Speaker 1: home and it did match Nancy's DNA. How however, no

606
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: suspects or person of interest have been publicly identified.

607
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 4: Still, yeah, there were, like you said, a couple of

608
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 4: these updates that happened over the weekend and during a

609
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 4: normal time when there's not fifty thousand other stories trying

610
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 4: to get into the news cycle. This be all anybody

611
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 4: would be looking at because it's just it's a heartbreaking story.

612
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 4: It's high profile because of Savannah Guthrie's job.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of reports that the local law enforcement didn't do the

615
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 4: best job on this investigation. So there's that angle that

616
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 4: people are talking about. It is a story that's kind

617
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 4: of captured the country and a couple of things happening

618
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 4: over the weekend that you might have missed during the

619
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Speaker 4: whole Super Bowl Epstein file discussion.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So police are conducting searches, including and examining the septic

622
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Speaker 1: tank behind her home. They towed her car they found

623
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Speaker 1: a camera on the roof, which was.

624
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Speaker 4: Just I think that was Friday night when that came

625
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 4: out that they and investigators found this camera on the

626
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Speaker 4: roof that they had no idea was there.

627
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Speaker 1: And OVI and Savannah Guthrie's brother put out another message,

628
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Speaker 1: and then the siblings all put out another video together

629
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Speaker 1: saying we will pay the FBI, of course, offering a

630
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Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars reward for information. The one thing that

631
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Speaker 1: I found really interesting when the siblings were all together again,

632
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Speaker 1: they said that we want to celebrate her.

633
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was look a lot of this, I mean

634
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Speaker 4: this almost straight out of like a movie or a

635
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Speaker 4: television show or some sort of true crime drama. A

636
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Speaker 4: lot of the message that Savannah Guthrie and her family

637
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Speaker 4: are using in these videos is a lot of coded language.

638
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 4: A lot of things were there speaking not to us

639
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 4: as the American public, but to who they think these

640
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Speaker 4: kidnappers might be. And I kind of got the sense

641
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Speaker 4: because the big conversation we had last week and the

642
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Speaker 4: first video was the family and the FBI were looking

643
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Speaker 4: for some sort of proof of life from the kidnappers,

644
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 4: because if I'm going to pay a ramsom, I want

645
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 4: to know that the person that I'm paying to.

646
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 3: Get released is still alive.

647
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Speaker 4: You saw a different tone in the second video that

648
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 4: talked about how we're going to pay, we want to

649
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 4: celebrate her. It kind of kind of led you to

650
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Speaker 4: believe that they might have gotten that proof of life

651
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 4: at some point in time between when those two videos

652
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Speaker 4: were released.

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Speaker 1: The conspiracy theories are running rampant on this story too.

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Speaker 4: But that's part of the problem because again, you know,

655
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,959
Speaker 4: there's a lot of talk to the local law enforms

656
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Speaker 4: women kind of batch this investigation from the beginning, and

657
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 4: then the FBI had to come in and take over.

658
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Speaker 4: But because this is such a high, high profile case,

659
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Speaker 4: because everything is so delicate, law enforcement, FBI included, are

660
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 4: playing a lot of things close to the vest and

661
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Speaker 4: not necessarily giving out all the information that they have.

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Speaker 4: And that's a strategic decision that they've made. But we know,

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Speaker 4: we know that when you do that, the American public,

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Speaker 4: if there's something big, if there's a big story that

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Speaker 4: people are interested in, and there are may your facts

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Speaker 4: that are missing, we're just gonna make stuff.

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Speaker 3: Up, fill in the blanks, fill in the blanks, and

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Speaker 3: make stuff up.

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Speaker 4: Create guess at it, create conspiracy theories, and that is

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Speaker 4: happening all over the place.

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Speaker 1: So you've got the New York Post reporting that a

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Speaker 1: former FBI top official doubts whether her disappearance was actually

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Speaker 1: a kidnapping at all. And there are many people who

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Speaker 1: are upset by the NonStop coverage of this as well, saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, people go missing. There have been less high

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Speaker 1: profile people that have gone missing, and they're not getting

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Speaker 1: that sort of treatment.

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you how media works. When the public

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Speaker 4: at large is interested in a story, you're gonna get

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Speaker 4: a lot more of that story. That's just how the

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Speaker 4: media works, not saying it's right or wrong, it's just

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Speaker 4: the way it works. So nobody should be surprised that

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Speaker 4: when the mother of a high profile television personality gets kidnapped,

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Speaker 4: everything else gets shut down and pushed out of the

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Speaker 4: way and people focus on this. It's because they're interested.

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Speaker 4: So you don't be mad at the media about this.

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Speaker 4: They're just giving the American public exactly what they want,

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Speaker 4: and apparently the American public wants a lout of this.

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Speaker 2: No, I'll be mad at the media.

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Speaker 4: You can be mad at the media too, but really

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Speaker 4: it's us as consumers.

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Speaker 3: We're the ones. We're the ones that have all the power.

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Speaker 4: If nobody cared and nobody watched anything about Savannah Guthrie

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Speaker 4: and her mom being kidnapped, the media wouldn't cover it

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Speaker 4: to the degree that they're covering it today.

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Speaker 1: Apparently there's another deadline that is looming today. You're listening

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Speaker 1: to ninety three WIBC. Does your voice matter?

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Speaker 2: Maybe?

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Speaker 1: Maybe a little, Sometimes it's hard to tell in this instant.

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Speaker 1: Residents around Eagle Creek Reservoir, they've been raising their concerns

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Speaker 1: about that proposal to release the treated wastewater into the reservoir,

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Speaker 1: which is tied to the expansion of services of the

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Speaker 1: LEAP projects. Some of the neighbors they've been posting signs

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Speaker 1: opposing the plan, and there was a meeting with the

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis City County Council Parks and rerec Committee, and they

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Speaker 1: seem to give some residents some renewed hope that the

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Speaker 1: proposal could be changed, or that their voices will matter

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Speaker 1: in future planning.

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Speaker 2: Or or they just padded them on.

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Speaker 1: The head and said they're there, we're listening to you,

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Speaker 1: We're going to change and then at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day they don't.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's probably more the ladder on this,

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Speaker 4: because everybody was up in arms because it looked like

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Speaker 4: most of the water was going to be you know,

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Speaker 4: taken and then dumped into Little Legal Creek, and people

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Speaker 4: were concerned about that because so many people in this

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Speaker 4: area use.

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Speaker 3: That for their their household water. They're drinking water.

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Speaker 4: But now the officials can just go in there and say, well, maybe.

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Speaker 3: It'll be Little Egal Creek, maybe it'll be somewhere else.

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Speaker 4: But look at the end of the day, it's got

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Speaker 4: to go somewhere, and it's going to go somewhere that

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Speaker 4: is water that is used by the public for drinking

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Speaker 4: water for regular consumption. So it seems like they were

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Speaker 4: just trying to end the conversation, might say, oh, well,

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Speaker 4: we don't have any firm plans yet, who knows what

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Speaker 4: will happen, in the hopes that they will kind of

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Speaker 4: get distracted and move on to something else.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So it either signals that they're paying attention to

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Speaker 1: the community and their concerns and they're going to adjust

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Speaker 1: the proposal.

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Speaker 2: Or maybe or little pat on the head there there.

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Speaker 3: Don't don't nothing, there nothing to see here. Just go

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Speaker 3: back and let us.

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Speaker 4: Do what we want to do, and you can pretend

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Speaker 4: like you're not getting the shaft on this deal.

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Speaker 2: It is ninety three WYBC, Good morning,