Speaker 1: The Frames per Second podcast Your What's good? Everybody? This
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Speaker 2: I'm your host today for Frames the second review we
Speaker 2: revering today Beef Part two. I did not know this
Speaker 2: is going to be a continuation of the first one, Well, y'all,
Speaker 2: did y'all know that it's gonna be going to be
Speaker 2: like a continuation and anthology is well, I think it's
Speaker 2: what they call it, right, No, no, yeah, but I
Speaker 2: personally was a big fan of the first one, and
Speaker 2: it was mainly due to me being a fan of
Speaker 2: Ali Wong and I think, uh, the guy that played
Speaker 2: on Walking Dead, the Asian guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Wayne laughing.
Speaker 1: Stephen Stephen, Oh yeah, I forgot it.
Speaker 2: I don't know his name, but but yeah, they were
Speaker 2: you know, I feel like it.
Speaker 1: It was good. Did y'all like the first season of Beef?
Speaker 1: I can't remember, honestly, damn everything.
Speaker 2: Well I did, I did, so. It was like one
Speaker 2: of my top shows that year. But y'all know, I
Speaker 2: don't don't watch a lot of shows. Uh, why are
Speaker 2: you familiar with Beef?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I knew about the first season.
Speaker 4: I ain't finish it though, Oh okay, okay, I just
Speaker 4: it got too ridiculous got too ridiculous for you?
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, man, they they they spun the block and
Speaker 5: made it.
Speaker 1: It made a two.
Speaker 2: And this one stars uh it has it had it
Speaker 2: has some good stars and it had an Oscar Isaac,
Speaker 2: Carrie Mulligan and Joshua Martin and a couple other people, Kelli.
Speaker 1: Spainey and Charles Melton.
Speaker 2: And yeah, so I guess starting out, how did you
Speaker 2: guys feel about Beef Part two? I'll start with you
Speaker 2: can overall thoughts.
Speaker 1: I think I'm somewhat indifferent.
Speaker 6: I think when it the very first couple of episodes.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, this shit bro Like
Speaker 1: they should have just left this alone, like the mess.
Speaker 6: I didn't like it until it got towards the medal,
Speaker 6: But I don't think it I don't think I got
Speaker 6: an ending that I overall liked, Like it got real
Speaker 6: kind of messy, but I don't think it kind of
Speaker 6: really settling the way that I thought was was worth it.
Speaker 6: So but yeah, I mean it was, it was, it
Speaker 6: was all right. I do think at the end, I
Speaker 6: was like, yeah, they don't need to do a season
Speaker 6: three things anthology series, m M.
Speaker 2: This one and I'm gonna come to you next bike.
Speaker 2: This this had like white lotus vibes to me.
Speaker 1: The last one didn't.
Speaker 2: But it seemed like they took started taking some pages
Speaker 2: from white Loaders.
Speaker 1: I feel like they went into.
Speaker 2: Like theory and like uh metaphor a lot more in
Speaker 2: this one than they did before. Like the other one
Speaker 2: was a little bit more surface level to me, this
Speaker 2: one they seemed like it was. It was a little deeper,
Speaker 2: which I kind of enjoyed actually, just kind of trying
Speaker 2: to think, Okay, what are they actually saying here, which
Speaker 2: I'll I'll get your opinions on some of the things
Speaker 2: that I think was said here. So yeah, I ultimately
Speaker 2: enjoyed it. They watched it, and they didn't enjoy it.
Speaker 2: She said she liked the first season better. She didn't
Speaker 2: really care for this one like that. But Spike, what
Speaker 2: did you So, what did you think about this one?
Speaker 2: Since you watched the whole thing.
Speaker 1: It had some good highs.
Speaker 4: I found myself like Ken, Well, actually I liked the beginning.
Speaker 4: I liked to set up, I was interested, and then
Speaker 4: the middle it dig I think it reached its peak
Speaker 4: in the middle when they was doing all the messy
Speaker 4: stuff and you had the hole the young couple versus
Speaker 4: the married couple. Uh, that worked for me, But the
Speaker 4: ending and when he fell in love with the other
Speaker 4: girl and all like, the all of that was just like, well, okay,
Speaker 4: come on, bro. The doctor killing people and them trying
Speaker 4: to cover all of that was I feel like it's
Speaker 4: too much sauce. They could have stayed within the confines
Speaker 4: of the country club and the other couple and just
Speaker 4: did the little beef thing, and I would have been
Speaker 4: more satisfied with that, but they added too much to it.
Speaker 4: Got you overall. I enjoyed it, overall, enjoyed it. It
Speaker 4: wasn't a bad watch.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, cool Mike, How did you feel about it?
Speaker 2: I feel like I kind of know based on some
Speaker 2: of the murmurs of us sitting around and talking about it,
Speaker 2: but yeah, let people know.
Speaker 1: How did you ultimately feel about Beef Part two?
Speaker 3: I said the same thing about White Laws. It just
Speaker 3: seems like they just copied a season White Lass. There
Speaker 3: wasn't There wasn't Beef like the other one was so simple.
Speaker 3: I didn't love the first season, but it was such
Speaker 3: a simple and effective idea. It was road rage, and
Speaker 3: that just broke into all of this other ship. This
Speaker 3: one didn't have that, Like Oscar Isaacs and his girl
Speaker 3: were fighting, the other people recorded it and blackmailed them.
Speaker 1: That seemed very White Lotus to me.
Speaker 3: And then adding in the story of the person overseas
Speaker 3: who killed the.
Speaker 1: The patient or whatever.
Speaker 3: That seemed very like even though White Loast hasn't done
Speaker 3: that specifically, but that seems like something I would expect
Speaker 3: out of White Lotus.
Speaker 1: And then they were.
Speaker 3: Trying to make all these all this commentary about capitalism.
Speaker 3: I wasn't here for this at all. This seemed very
Speaker 3: just bootleg. This seemed like fucking I can't say TMU
Speaker 3: because y'all gone on it because it's Asian folks. What's
Speaker 3: what's a what's what's a what's a TB?
Speaker 1: Two B? This seemed like a two B version of
Speaker 1: White Lotus.
Speaker 3: Interesting, it was off White Flower fucking just some goofy shit.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Vanilla Lotus. Yeah. I did not have a
Speaker 1: good time with this. I'm surprised.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know you talked about capitalisms things like that.
Speaker 2: I feel like that was the beef. Feel like the
Speaker 2: beef was class so it was just one class against
Speaker 2: another class. And I think the two couples represented that
Speaker 2: because I was trying to figure out too, I'm like,
Speaker 2: where's the beef?
Speaker 1: I don't see the beef.
Speaker 2: But I think overall that's what it ultimately was, this
Speaker 2: class against this class, and like, because that's that's what
Speaker 2: the younger couple was saying, like they you know, we
Speaker 2: sit around, we do the work, you know, and you
Speaker 2: know they're just reaping the benefits of the work we do.
Speaker 2: And I think we all kind of felt like that
Speaker 2: being in the corporate setting before. So overall, I like
Speaker 2: the overall like like world did they put us in?
Speaker 1: I felt like it was kind of relatable.
Speaker 2: And so with that said, I wanted to kind of
Speaker 2: approach some of the metaphorical stuff first and then I'll
Speaker 2: kind of get into the episodes. What did y'all what
Speaker 2: was youall thoughts when y'all kept seeing like the ants
Speaker 2: throughout the episodes? Did y'all did y'all notice that that
Speaker 2: they always reference ants? What did that say to y'all?
Speaker 2: Anybody can take it? And and I'll kind of piggyback
Speaker 2: off of what you know.
Speaker 1: I was extremely on the nose and got annoying.
Speaker 2: You said it was on the nose. What so what
Speaker 2: was it for you when it came when you saw capitalism,
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 3: It was worker bees, it was drones, it was people
Speaker 3: being a part of the system. It was just like, bro,
Speaker 3: this is very elementary, man, And it's not it's not
Speaker 3: even thought provoking.
Speaker 1: To me, I thought it was.
Speaker 5: Did you think it was elementary?
Speaker 1: Now? Because you had you had him killing an act?
Speaker 6: You know, he pressed his thumb down on the at
Speaker 6: you know, because at one point I think he threatened
Speaker 6: to fire the whole crew, which is basically terminating you know,
Speaker 6: work is terminating an act, you.
Speaker 3: Know, but just insignificant. It's significant in the system or
Speaker 3: something like that. That's a common that's a common phrase
Speaker 3: with with anarchists or or even people critics. I think
Speaker 3: capitalism in general is you know, the you you know.
Speaker 1: You're under the thumb of the man.
Speaker 3: And of course you have oscar isis and it's like, oh, look, everybody,
Speaker 3: I'm killing the.
Speaker 1: Ant with my thoughts. It's like, bro, come on, man,
Speaker 1: this is really what you're doing. Gotcha?
Speaker 2: What about you spike any thoughts about the ants throughout
Speaker 2: the whole thing? You did that come to your mind
Speaker 2: or you were just like why they putting these and
Speaker 2: that was what the work would be thinking. I got
Speaker 2: what they were doing, but it wasn't effective.
Speaker 1: If it weren't effective, not for me.
Speaker 4: Like I didn't I would have rather seen it more
Speaker 4: on screen from the characters versus these subtle hints.
Speaker 1: I felt like it did.
Speaker 3: I feel like they were aligning it in a sense.
Speaker 1: Not heavy enough for me.
Speaker 4: Like the biggest thing that I picked up on perception
Speaker 4: wise was like the image, like people wanting to keep
Speaker 4: up with their image, Like the older couple the whole
Speaker 4: reason were to recordinate didn' want nobody to think that
Speaker 4: they were like that. And then the younger couple with
Speaker 4: their perceptions of each other, they didn't want each other
Speaker 4: to think that they didn't love each other, like said
Speaker 4: then the agent lady.
Speaker 1: Hid and her husband killing somebody.
Speaker 4: I think it was all about perception and how people
Speaker 4: or the world perceived you, and what you would do
Speaker 4: to hold that perception, and how bad you would really
Speaker 4: get to hold that perception that you're a good person.
Speaker 4: That was the biggest image imagery thing that I got
Speaker 4: from conception.
Speaker 2: So what so the generational tension between like what they
Speaker 2: kept kind of referencing was gen z and gen X slash.
Speaker 1: Boomers throughout the whole show.
Speaker 2: It was like, you know, basically representing like previous generations
Speaker 2: seizing all the wealth right and then leave, like I said,
Speaker 2: leaving you know, Gen Z's and stuff like that with
Speaker 2: less opportunities. How did y'all feel about that whole plot
Speaker 2: line just in general as a metaphor? But I don't
Speaker 2: know if it was that was as much as a metaphor,
Speaker 2: But I feel like they just kept harboring on that.
Speaker 1: Did that do anything for y'all? Made me feel whole?
Speaker 6: They think about me, right, you know what she called
Speaker 6: But when she called them a boomer.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm like the fuck like I'm there now.
Speaker 6: You know, that sort of disconnect between the young and
Speaker 6: the old and they have the world ahead of them.
Speaker 6: So but I also get like them looking at the
Speaker 6: generation ahead of them, like, bro, it's it's over for
Speaker 6: you. You're done, like this is you know, and you don't
Speaker 6: understand how we think, which I you know, I get like,
Speaker 6: you know, I'm pretty sure I felt the same way
Speaker 6: about adults when I was around there age, so h yeah.
Speaker 6: But more I think, if anything, I was just thinking
Speaker 6: about like where I'm at.
Speaker 1: In life now got you anyway?
Speaker 2: That that do anything for y'all a storyline, plot line
Speaker 2: throughout the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Is that an interesting plot?
Speaker 4: Not the old boomer first you young? That didn't do
Speaker 4: anything for me?
Speaker 1: Not a million times. It was like the old trope.
Speaker 3: It felt like hm hm, So y'all don't feel like
Speaker 3: they did it creatively here. There was nothing done creatively
Speaker 3: in the show.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, okay, all right, so will you I'll
Speaker 2: just start off with the episode. So episode one is
Speaker 2: all the things We're going never going to have, which
Speaker 2: is kind of what I was just representing to So,
Speaker 2: after returning home from a fund raiser, Josh which is
Speaker 2: played by Isaac he's the general manager of this country club,
Speaker 2: and his wife Lindsay, they become they're they're being, they're
Speaker 2: celebrating accomplishments, right, But then we see quickly that once
Speaker 2: they get in the car, it's just like everything else
Speaker 2: is shut off. And then in their world isn't as
Speaker 2: glitz and glam as it seemed to be. How did
Speaker 2: y'all feel like?
Speaker 1: How you know what? They dropped us off?
Speaker 2: And at this point establishing Josh, the Joshua and Lindsay.
Speaker 1: Character, they hadn't fought yet, right, well, they hadn't thought yet.
Speaker 2: This is this, This is just showing like something's not right,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. They just showed them like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, congratulations to my wife, you know my husband,
Speaker 2: let's not forget about my husband, blah blah blah.
Speaker 5: Just on the surface level, we see that all the time.
Speaker 2: But then once they get in the car, it's obviously
Speaker 2: some type of tension there.
Speaker 4: You even look before them and the faces they were
Speaker 4: showing why they were doing it, the microaggressions that they had.
Speaker 1: They did a good job.
Speaker 4: Of us as viewers being like, say something right. They
Speaker 4: presented it as this perfect couple, but obviously just the
Speaker 4: way he just looked at her, this smirk or smile
Speaker 4: or frown that she just made, Like all of the
Speaker 4: stuff pointed to once you get in the car, getting
Speaker 4: what you got, I expected that.
Speaker 2: Did you take anything from that can like the opening
Speaker 2: well or Mike out doing something interested at all? You
Speaker 2: never had that happen like it usually like on the
Speaker 2: surface job.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely, but viewing it through the Oh
Speaker 1: I don't know, I must be hearing you. I heard
Speaker 1: my phone go off. I'm getting old.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I mean doing it through the lens of like, oh,
Speaker 3: here's these two rich people who are even if they're
Speaker 3: not rich, they're like pretending to be rich. But hey,
Speaker 3: there's something deep down going on. It's like again, White
Speaker 3: Lotus does this every fucking season. Here y'all come doing
Speaker 3: the same Shitnah, I wasn't interested at all.
Speaker 1: I got you Okay, Well did you guys get interested?
Speaker 2: Once Ashley and Austin showed up and witnessed this heated.
Speaker 1: Debate between Joshua and Lindsay.
Speaker 2: At this point the plot is, what was y'all thinking
Speaker 2: when they're like, yo, mind your damn business or what like?
Speaker 1: What was the thought when y'all saw this take place
Speaker 1: in the story?
Speaker 6: Well, you know, I was wondering if like, okay, so
Speaker 6: now it's gonna be and season of them kind of
Speaker 6: going back and forth, you know, because I think I
Speaker 6: don't even think they showed us that she had actually
Speaker 6: recorded the video.
Speaker 1: They were just there so we didn't know about the
Speaker 1: video until later.
Speaker 6: But but that's what I thought it was. It was
Speaker 6: it was going to be.
Speaker 1: At first, I thought it was about to kill her though,
Speaker 1: you know, or.
Speaker 6: They were one of them were going to kill one
Speaker 6: and one I thought he was yeah, and then they
Speaker 6: were gonna witness it and then you know, I don't
Speaker 6: know what they would have did with that, but yeah.
Speaker 1: But that was it. That was it.
Speaker 6: But when I saw it, I was like, Okay, so
Speaker 6: how are they going to turn this into a big
Speaker 6: issue similar to you know the first season?
Speaker 2: Gotcha? Did y'all take anything else from it? Well, Spike,
Speaker 2: I guess you kind of asked you what did you
Speaker 2: take from this part? Was this part intriguing for you?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Because I want I wonder where they would take it.
Speaker 4: I also wondered is this gonna be it? Is this
Speaker 4: the beef for the season? They got a video recording.
Speaker 4: I was taking this stuff a fight, like both of
Speaker 4: them can say, well, I mean we grown, we can fight.
Speaker 4: Nobody died, you know what I'm saying. So I was like, okay,
Speaker 4: what they gonna most of the time they do need evidence. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and that was just a fight. How was gonna make
Speaker 4: it more serious than this? So I was wondering where
Speaker 4: they would go from it. He didn't hit her, There
Speaker 4: no bruises, there's nothing, so right, but.
Speaker 3: It wasn't he about to hit her like he was
Speaker 3: had like a stick or a bat or.
Speaker 4: Something like that, and then he didn't sing the girl
Speaker 4: huh he looked out there and seeing the young girl.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this wasn't a strong enough motivation for the rest
Speaker 1: of the season.
Speaker 3: Oh, Like, I feel like it just seemed like they
Speaker 3: could survive this scandal.
Speaker 1: You know, it just didn't seem like it was that
Speaker 1: big of a deal.
Speaker 2: Right, So Josh thought he they could survive a scandal
Speaker 2: as well, because the next day he shows up to
Speaker 2: the country club and he pretty much threatens Ashley. I
Speaker 2: thought this whole tension was good personally, Like how I
Speaker 2: mean we seen we just so we just was talking
Speaker 2: about this but prior to recording, how you know, a
Speaker 2: manager will kind of blame everybody and then point out
Speaker 2: and it's actually going towards one person. How did y'all
Speaker 2: feel about this scene when he was trying to pressure her, like, look,
Speaker 2: you know, if we want to keep our jobs, you know,
Speaker 2: we want to do this and that and the third
Speaker 2: and he basically was directing that energy towards Ashley and
Speaker 2: that she's texting her boyfriend like, man, I think he's
Speaker 2: talking about me.
Speaker 5: How did y'all feel about this scene in particular, I
Speaker 5: thought this.
Speaker 1: Scene was all right. It was good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the way that they were putting the text on
Speaker 3: the screen, Yeah, it was good.
Speaker 4: And how he was like talking to her without talking
Speaker 4: without talking to her, like not being able to tell
Speaker 4: if he was talking to her, that was good.
Speaker 1: They played it well. Yeah, yeah, how did you feel
Speaker 1: about the kid?
Speaker 4: I think I liked the this This was fine, but
Speaker 4: I think I liked the lot of the conversation.
Speaker 6: Now after this a little bit more got you so
Speaker 6: you want to touch? It seemed like he was he
Speaker 6: was a little bit more direct. But I think this
Speaker 6: one she was kind of pushing back to you know
Speaker 6: and what because this went on the golf cart golf
Speaker 6: course when he walked up to her and basically was,
Speaker 6: you know, saying that you know, you can get out
Speaker 6: of here, you know, so, and it was a little
Speaker 6: bit more direct instead of indirect.
Speaker 1: So I like that a little bit more, right.
Speaker 2: So with all that, we then later she's talking with
Speaker 2: her boyfriend Austin and he's basically saying like not let's
Speaker 2: you know, let's fight back.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess they both are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they both were convincing each other like, yo, we
Speaker 2: could use this as leverage. Did y'all think this was
Speaker 2: a good idea to then use this as leverage to
Speaker 2: kind of blackmail to get themselves ahead in a situation
Speaker 2: they felt like they were being left behind or being
Speaker 2: cheated out of Mike.
Speaker 1: It was good for the show.
Speaker 3: It wasn't good in reality, but it was good for
Speaker 3: the show because in reality, I can't see that video
Speaker 3: being that big of a deal to where they're like
Speaker 3: making all these weird changes in the fire the one
Speaker 3: lane and bring her on.
Speaker 1: It just seemed like a lot and it never connected
Speaker 1: with me. Yeah, and it's all happened.
Speaker 2: I think, like with with Ashley, she wanted to do
Speaker 2: it because she found out that she was diagnosed with
Speaker 2: ovarians and I don't think it was cancer, but it
Speaker 2: was like it wasn't.
Speaker 1: She had assist on it, so it could have been possibly,
Speaker 1: but torsion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, So I think that gave motivation, like, yo,
Speaker 2: I gotta.
Speaker 1: Do something, so desperate times called for desperate measures. So
Speaker 1: she wanted health insurance.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she wanted health insurance with health insurance, Julie ship.
Speaker 2: And that's pretty much the gist of the first episode.
Speaker 2: Was there anything else in the first episode that stood
Speaker 2: out to you guys, that'd be like, okay.
Speaker 1: I'm in a little bit, is anything else? See where
Speaker 1: we go from there?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they show back up to the house at
Speaker 2: that point too, right, It was just like okay, well
Speaker 2: what do y'all want? And I think it ends at
Speaker 2: that point, which leads us to episode too called a
Speaker 2: new starting point for further desires. This is where Ashley
Speaker 2: and Austin they actually blackmailed Josh and Lindsey, which secures
Speaker 2: Ashley position promotion at at the country club. How did
Speaker 2: y'all like how this started off that she now secured this?
Speaker 2: Do y'all think he should have went through with it
Speaker 2: or he's just like, yo, just give it up?
Speaker 6: Like yeah, well yeah, I think he should have went
Speaker 6: through with it to protect himself. I mean, this is
Speaker 6: what these figures tend to do, is they use leverage
Speaker 6: against one another.
Speaker 1: It's a dirty game. We've seen in other shows as well.
Speaker 6: She was just able to play the game, you know,
Speaker 6: as before she didn't because she was not right.
Speaker 1: She was damning stupid as well. They younger.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, so it seemed like she was just going
Speaker 6: to be a figurehead in the role and not really
Speaker 6: do the role.
Speaker 1: And then but she wanted to do the role.
Speaker 6: But they've shown over and over again that she's not
Speaker 6: the smartest person you know in the room, probably on that.
Speaker 1: Whole uh company payroll.
Speaker 6: But but what what I what I did like though,
Speaker 6: was how uh, what's the what's the boyfriend name? Josh?
Speaker 6: I mean Austin. Austin was like, man, that's great, you
Speaker 6: got this job, but what about me?
Speaker 1: What about me?
Speaker 6: Like, so he started to get a little jealous of
Speaker 6: her situation and now he was trying to figure out
Speaker 6: how he can get put on. But but now, yeah,
Speaker 6: it was it was It was cool to see that.
Speaker 1: Now it's like, Okay, where do they go?
Speaker 6: Is is he going to try to sabotage her so
Speaker 6: he could fire her or like to the point where
Speaker 6: even upper management has to make that call and put
Speaker 6: it out of his hands?
Speaker 1: Is that what he's gonna do? I got you? How
Speaker 1: did y'all take this?
Speaker 4: I mean, I think she played her cards right. It
Speaker 4: made me wonder, though, him putting her in that specific position,
Speaker 4: that he always had a plan that he revealed later.
Speaker 2: I don't think so that came up later. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't think so, because I think, and we'll get there.
Speaker 2: But I think that came when he realized when he realized,
Speaker 2: like she fucking stupid.
Speaker 3: Okay, I got you, got you, you know, because that's
Speaker 3: one thing I hadn't mentioned.
Speaker 2: He's in debt or whatever, but he's presenting like he's not,
Speaker 2: so he's trying to, you know, at the same time
Speaker 2: figure out how to stay above water in this situation.
Speaker 1: Is just kind of play.
Speaker 2: Like I said to these millionaires at this country club
Speaker 2: that he's you know.
Speaker 4: I think my biggest problem with the promotion thing was
Speaker 4: he still acted like she was annoying him, Like I
Speaker 4: feel like, if you're gonna give her that position, she
Speaker 4: still got leverage over you with the backup video that
Speaker 4: you think she has. So he was treating her like shit,
Speaker 4: like you gave her a promotion, then you treated her
Speaker 4: like shit like she still won't release the video.
Speaker 1: I didn't like that. She still was in a position though,
Speaker 1: so she can't. Yeah, but why was he treating her
Speaker 1: that way? Because he could.
Speaker 3: He knew she she didn't have the money right and
Speaker 3: she didn't want to lose the position or the job,
Speaker 3: so I don't have to be nice to you.
Speaker 5: I'll get you a position, but I don't have to
Speaker 5: be nice to you.
Speaker 1: But that puts me a risk, though.
Speaker 2: Not necessarily because you still got you still getting on
Speaker 2: your one out of the deal. You just don't like
Speaker 2: the fact that you know your boss is being shitty
Speaker 2: towards you. You know, so now you got to make
Speaker 2: a decision.
Speaker 1: Yea, that wasn't ais Yeah being nice, right, I.
Speaker 2: Mean at the end of the day too, it is
Speaker 2: still black mail, you know. So she's not that great either.
Speaker 2: I particularly wasn't liking her. Did y'all like her?
Speaker 1: She was.
Speaker 5: So annoying to me. She wasn't annoying to you.
Speaker 3: She was super annoying kind of her point, But yeah,
Speaker 3: she was irritating the ship out.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, me too, Like oh man, yeah me too.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, she convinces him, like we're not convinces it,
Speaker 2: but she says she deletes it and everything like that.
Speaker 2: But then we have another storyline with his wife Lindsey,
Speaker 2: and we're seeing that, like how she isn't happy, Like
Speaker 2: she's in her phone, she's in she's on whats App,
Speaker 2: she's on these different things, you know, trying to trying
Speaker 2: to get our get our rocks off with different guys
Speaker 2: or whatever. So we see that, and then we see
Speaker 2: her with the tennis play, the tennis player being flirting
Speaker 2: with him what not.
Speaker 5: But then she finds out that he's flirting with everybody
Speaker 5: or whatever.
Speaker 2: So funny, so she uses so because of that when
Speaker 2: she realized that now she is blackmailing him.
Speaker 1: For like cosmetic treatments.
Speaker 3: Uh, how did y'all feel about this part of the
Speaker 3: story with her motives.
Speaker 6: It ties into the age thing because she was feeling old, uh,
Speaker 6: you know, unattractive. You know, she definitely doesn't feel loved
Speaker 6: in in the marriage, which you know, they made very
Speaker 6: very clear, and she was seeking that elsewhere, some sort
Speaker 6: of attention, even if it's just flirting on the app,
Speaker 6: you know, it didn't really have to go anywhere. I
Speaker 6: think they call that emotional cheating or whatever. But at
Speaker 6: this point now she's trying to, you know, level up.
Speaker 6: And but when she tried to be like because she
Speaker 6: just blurted out, nobody asked her to volunteer the information.
Speaker 6: She just was the one like, oh you had the
Speaker 6: tennis player flirted with me, trying to sew that she
Speaker 6: still got it because I think there were two younger
Speaker 6: looking girls and from younger woman in front of hers,
Speaker 6: so she wanted to feel like, you know, she still
Speaker 6: got it.
Speaker 1: They were like, oh yeah, she's doing that with everybody
Speaker 1: she was to look on her face. How crush he fell. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was like, damn, I got something.
Speaker 1: They just they just snatched her complete soul.
Speaker 8: Always ship was like, oh for real, girl like that,
Speaker 8: and what you think it is?
Speaker 2: Did y'all get anything from her that this storyline with
Speaker 2: her that she was a smart one was out of
Speaker 2: the relationship. I feel like, oh, she's the smart one. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the dude, the basic Yeah, he came off as kind
Speaker 2: of yeah, he wouldn't.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't think that this whole thing with the
Speaker 6: tennis player was gonna where it went though.
Speaker 4: That was that was a time. I thought this was
Speaker 4: just more about insecurities, and yeah, what it was. It's
Speaker 4: a good scam though, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I think again, we're still continuing down that
Speaker 2: road with generations, right, because he obviously was younger and
Speaker 2: and she found a way to get money off of
Speaker 2: him or get a product or something some sort of
Speaker 2: service off. So I think that they're continuing this beef.
Speaker 2: I think they're continuing to beef generation versus generation. So
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. I started saying, Okay, that's what
Speaker 2: it is. I think that's what.
Speaker 1: The beef is between these generations. So then we get
Speaker 1: to Josh dien Will be kind of alluded to.
Speaker 2: He comes up with with the idea to make false
Speaker 2: invoices because he notices that Ashley is shitty at her
Speaker 2: job with submitting the invoices. So uh so he he
Speaker 2: uh invoices to a joint account, which which recently deceased
Speaker 2: mother or whatever. That's how he was hiding it so
Speaker 2: he could repay his debts with actually being pretty much
Speaker 2: the skategod. That's when he was calling her stupid and
Speaker 2: stuff like that. How did y'all feel about this plan?
Speaker 2: Because I know you said you thought Lindzie was smarter.
Speaker 2: How do you feel about this plan that he came
Speaker 2: up with?
Speaker 4: It didn't seem like it seemed like something he was
Speaker 4: gonna get caught for. Really, like she really wasn't paying attention.
Speaker 2: The only like, and we were talking about it in a minute,
Speaker 2: but the only reason she found out is because a
Speaker 2: boyfriend pointed it out, kind of pointed it out right.
Speaker 4: I feel like when they got caught though, well if
Speaker 4: they had gotten called from it, that it would have
Speaker 4: led back to him. I feel like, mm hmm, yeah,
Speaker 4: they were going to get caught. It was a stupid plan.
Speaker 1: I mean, bro, four thousand, nine hundred.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like that, that's so freaking obvious. You have multiple
Speaker 4: times with the same invoice, Like, come on, bro, and
Speaker 4: it's missing miss what he said with miss is missing.
Speaker 1: From it's miss miskake doss. That point right, here's where
Speaker 1: all the money is going to. Miss. Okay, buddy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I thought they were teenagers, they were like
Speaker 4: young adult.
Speaker 1: They was like twenties and twenties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, uh eventually Austin becomes like a part of
Speaker 2: because she she got him a job there. He's basically
Speaker 2: like the the the therapists of the Uh well what
Speaker 2: we did meet the chairman too, of the Big Dog.
Speaker 1: She's gonna come back around later.
Speaker 2: How did y'all feel about her and and her coming
Speaker 2: on and finally coming on properly?
Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta.
Speaker 6: I got a rule of thumb that I think people
Speaker 6: need to follow. If you are speaking to someone that
Speaker 6: is from another country that don't speak English, allegedly, you
Speaker 6: should assume that they know how to be English.
Speaker 1: You should always make that assumption.
Speaker 6: Every time they get caught up just talking English, and
Speaker 6: then they always pop up like, oh you understand English,
Speaker 6: Like yeah, you know, but don't what she said, don't
Speaker 6: tell anybody you don't want to know. She told that
Speaker 6: to everybody, like, and I'm like, she's sitting there talking
Speaker 6: like and you know, they sold it well, But I'm like,
Speaker 6: I don't know, man, But yeah, I think that's the.
Speaker 1: Rule of dumb that people should should apply in life.
Speaker 1: Got you. I thought I was gonna say something fucked up.
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, no, I'm just I'm just processing that
Speaker 3: because I don't ever really assume that someone speaks English
Speaker 3: if you're.
Speaker 1: Talking, just like, take no chance. Yeah yeah yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: take no chance. Oh yeah, I get you. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: appreciate the clarification. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah that makes sense,
Speaker 1: That makes sense. Yeah yeah. I'm trying to paw through
Speaker 1: this thirty minute. I'm trying to get that's halfway. Just
Speaker 1: be careful out there, guys.
Speaker 5: But towards a lot of ending this show.
Speaker 2: Basically, what we have is Austin gets a positioned there
Speaker 2: by way of Ashley as a therapist.
Speaker 1: We have units, which is.
Speaker 2: The the Chairman's assistant or whatever. Any thoughts on how
Speaker 2: do y'all feel like him when not having the right
Speaker 2: conditions to be a therapist Unie the Chairman. Another thing
Speaker 2: that happens with the Chairman is like we find out
Speaker 2: that her husband has like.
Speaker 3: What do you call it, not tremors, what do you
Speaker 3: call it? When he got the shakes or whatever.
Speaker 1: You like.
Speaker 2: But he's a surgeon, so he ends up killing somebody.
Speaker 2: So all of that is revealed towards a lot of
Speaker 2: in in this episode. Any of that stood out to
Speaker 2: y'all and what was interesting to y'all at all.
Speaker 4: I didn't like when he went over there and gave
Speaker 4: the assistant physical therapy. I feel like he failed for
Speaker 4: her too quickly, like how they was positioning him to
Speaker 4: be so in love with the little other units units. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I feel like he fell in love because right then
Speaker 4: he was like smitten by and and then it seemed
Speaker 4: like he just lost.
Speaker 1: All they having use work.
Speaker 4: Well, we clearly saw one of the reasons, probably why
Speaker 4: what he was doing a little thing on her and
Speaker 4: she said, she keep going. You could have been spit.
Speaker 4: That would have because I forgot how you said, tell
Speaker 4: me when or when to stop when whatever?
Speaker 1: She kept going.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was like, she got right here.
Speaker 4: He convinced he was there that little white girl can't
Speaker 4: do that. She Asian too, like like that's what I think.
Speaker 2: He said that He's like, yo, never been Yeah, just
Speaker 2: like yeah, because he even manuted to her, he was
Speaker 2: just like, yo, I can't lie I am attracted. That
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that I don't love you, though, I thought, Ship,
Speaker 2: you can't tell your girl.
Speaker 1: I understand. You can't tell your girl that another girl pretty, Yes,
Speaker 1: you can.
Speaker 3: You can't be like, yes, I'm attracted to her saying
Speaker 3: someone's attractive and then saying I'm attracted to her.
Speaker 1: It's a different story. Yeah, really, I'm.
Speaker 4: Just asking yeah, yeah, because she she'll probably fell in
Speaker 4: the blanks anyway.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you'd always be like, I didn't say that.
Speaker 1: I just said that she is attractive. Someone is someone
Speaker 1: on this earth that's not me would be attracted to.
Speaker 6: Was like, yeah, I am attracted to her, but I
Speaker 6: love you.
Speaker 1: See, I don't have that level of understanding between you.
Speaker 1: Think you tell think you could do that.
Speaker 2: I would very like in my years I've been but
Speaker 2: we all so really good friends too, so you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know you would say I'm attracted to this girl.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think I said something. You're sitting right
Speaker 1: here today, so he's breathing.
Speaker 2: Like I'm telling y'all like like some some situations are
Speaker 2: like that. So she's like, you have these open dollar But.
Speaker 6: That was an attraction to the point where what what
Speaker 6: she was picking up was like attracted to that.
Speaker 1: You want to be with her exactly because exactly because
Speaker 1: Nate does it all the time.
Speaker 2: You've heard her, Yeah, she be making these comments about
Speaker 2: she do that ships.
Speaker 1: Somebody you spending time, I'm saying, I don't think she
Speaker 1: would do that.
Speaker 3: If some dude just walked by. He was like, rodrinke, Yeah,
Speaker 3: shoulders that, man? Why can't you have shoulders like that?
Speaker 1: Man? She wouldn't do it like that. I don't even
Speaker 1: know what you do. Why would you say that? Why
Speaker 1: would you? Why would you say that? Though?
Speaker 2: All right, cool, y'all got that with y'all got that
Speaker 2: all right, But we're gonna we're gonna keep it with man.
Speaker 2: So this is the third episode, increasing uh flimsiness of
Speaker 2: any certainties about the future. How did y'all feel about
Speaker 2: these titles that y'all don't even pay attention?
Speaker 1: But I was like, all right, I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: think about these titles. I got you. I didn't think
Speaker 1: I read them. Yeah. So in this.
Speaker 2: Park returns to Soul to contain the fallout of her
Speaker 2: husband's dead patient.
Speaker 1: Park is the main owner deffutya don't know who she was.
Speaker 2: Patient, but tight government financial scrutiny makes it difficult to
Speaker 2: move the money around to bribe people for the cover up.
Speaker 2: She compels her husband to retire, which she thinks of
Speaker 2: a solution. How did y'all think about this storyline with
Speaker 2: her husband him killing folks and stuff like that. What
Speaker 2: did y'all think this would lead into something where y'all interested?
Speaker 2: Is y'all wanted to get us to get back to
Speaker 2: the main.
Speaker 1: Part, you know?
Speaker 4: No, to which part I wouldn't interest? It wasn't really
Speaker 4: that was.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm with y'all. I didn't.
Speaker 5: I didn't necessarily need this part either, but it did.
Speaker 1: It did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it did set up to tie in as a
Speaker 2: like how corporations would try to cover up something.
Speaker 1: So I thought that was good, but I feel.
Speaker 2: Like it was missing something because I really wanted them
Speaker 2: to focus more on the gen z. But but I
Speaker 2: think it showed the hierarchy too, like everybody has a boss,
Speaker 2: you know, because yeah, yeah, I think it showed that
Speaker 2: because she's trying to cover up and bribe.
Speaker 1: So it did set up for that.
Speaker 3: With with Josh as the manager, so she he ended
Speaker 3: up being escapegoat for her and actually was a scapegoat
Speaker 3: for him.
Speaker 5: Like so I think it did create that chain.
Speaker 1: Of of things.
Speaker 2: But then we move on to unite she started taking part,
Speaker 2: so they trying to start taking part in Austin's.
Speaker 1: Trial and.
Speaker 2: Which uh, which it got intimate, but not necessarily sexual.
Speaker 2: We don't know exactly what happened, but we could tell
Speaker 2: that it was an intimate moment. And this is when
Speaker 2: we started getting jealousy.
Speaker 3: And and and and his girlfriend Antanna started going up like, Okay,
Speaker 3: what's going on here?
Speaker 5: How did y'all feel about this moment?
Speaker 1: What part was this? When you said they got intimate?
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think.
Speaker 2: This is when when she when when the park could
Speaker 2: the main lady couldn't do the physical therapy, she left
Speaker 2: it up to units.
Speaker 3: And this is when we she did a leg past
Speaker 3: that part. No, no, no, this is when it actually happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he didn't. He didn't hit that. Yeah, she
Speaker 1: wasn't given it. She didn't. Don't even think she liked it.
Speaker 1: He didn't like at all. Yeah, she didn't let him
Speaker 1: have that.
Speaker 4: If he shouldn't have lied given her the physical therapy.
Speaker 4: But he would have been cool if he had not
Speaker 4: lied about it, because now you look suspicious.
Speaker 1: She never found out the truth anyway, she texted her.
Speaker 1: That's when she read the text.
Speaker 6: She was like, what, yeah, but that was at the hospital,
Speaker 6: but what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: The girl?
Speaker 4: He lied to his girlfriend about giving the physical therapy
Speaker 4: to Units. She asked him how it went, and he
Speaker 4: was like, oh. Instead of saying oh, she filled.
Speaker 1: In for.
Speaker 4: The additional information. He just said the women that's lying.
Speaker 4: Can you know that.
Speaker 3: He had still been in trouble if he told the truth,
Speaker 3: he'd have been in more trouble just earlier if he
Speaker 3: was like, oh, yeah, she didn't show up and her
Speaker 3: assistant Unis came through and that's the end. She was like,
Speaker 3: who's Unis? And then she saw at the day right
Speaker 3: then when she saw you, then it would be a problem.
Speaker 6: And you sitting there flirting with her at lunch or
Speaker 6: whatever they were at his eyes was locked.
Speaker 1: He was just looking at her while she was talking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she started to suspect someone was wrong. Yeah, she ain't stupid.
Speaker 1: I think he should have just over true man to
Speaker 1: die early.
Speaker 2: So actually a lot of this part in this episode
Speaker 2: we kind of addressed already, which can move us forward.
Speaker 2: So we address like about the invoice stuff Units like
Speaker 2: greeing to park and keep them informed. Josh and Lindsay
Speaker 2: are now planning to open up a bed and breakfast
Speaker 2: using the money and belz with from.
Speaker 1: The club.
Speaker 2: They fell in love again, Yeah, they kind of fell
Speaker 2: in love this part. So how are y'all feeling at
Speaker 2: this point? Like, do y'all feel like they got a
Speaker 2: good plan? Well, we know they don't have a good
Speaker 2: plan going because it's revealed that that Austin pointed out, Yo,
Speaker 2: this these numbers aren't making sense. So although we see that,
Speaker 2: we all as the audience know that, oh, this shit
Speaker 2: gonna blow up in their face. How y'all feeling right
Speaker 2: now as far as like them feeling like, you know,
Speaker 2: things are getting back to a good place.
Speaker 4: With Josh and Lindsay, I don't know if I was
Speaker 4: real all that invested in their relationship. Yeah, it didn't
Speaker 4: seem like they liked each other even when they was
Speaker 4: falling back in love with each other's sister and they
Speaker 4: was just two different pages.
Speaker 1: There on screen. Chemistry was terrible.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's what it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I think that's exactly what I said.
Speaker 3: Single moment that I believe the Oscar Isaac was married
Speaker 3: to that woman a single moment.
Speaker 1: That's why he wouldn't having sex with.
Speaker 2: They started having podcast money got right though, Damn we
Speaker 2: once huh I said they started having w They did
Speaker 2: have sex when the money got right, yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 2: she was lying about going the baby or.
Speaker 1: Something and she yeah.
Speaker 6: She called them out for all that porno stuff too.
Speaker 1: Man watched his porno. Man, he was watching the porno
Speaker 1: and not giving it to her, and that's what she
Speaker 1: was mad about. You should have came in the room
Speaker 1: while I was watching the porno. Do what they can do.
Speaker 1: Maybe we can talk about.
Speaker 2: This, right, But that leads us to part confronting Josh
Speaker 2: about the fraud. But it stands up, but it stands
Speaker 2: his contract. So this is where we see that he
Speaker 2: was going to the getting raised.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like okay, you're done.
Speaker 1: They all have laying it out, like, yeah, you've been
Speaker 1: stealing money. What you're about to do?
Speaker 6: Yes, And then she said what do you do you
Speaker 6: know Gabriella or something and he was like, I don't
Speaker 6: know that.
Speaker 1: You haven't been She had to get the rest. You
Speaker 1: ain't been sitting, you ain't been doing it. He was like,
Speaker 1: I can pay it all.
Speaker 4: Was like you can't.
Speaker 1: You've been stealing. Wasn't stings like?
Speaker 2: She basically like, look, keep doing what you're doing basically,
Speaker 2: but I need you to do it for this reason.
Speaker 2: So she bribes him now, so now she he's caught
Speaker 2: up in a bribe. So moving forward, the Ashley treats
Speaker 2: Austin's for signature and Jost offices, but notice condolencence condolencence cards, which.
Speaker 5: Then now is going to mess up parks plans.
Speaker 2: So now it's starting to get real messy because the
Speaker 2: owner is actually wanting him to do these things.
Speaker 5: But now Ashley is noticing that, wait, this isn't right.
Speaker 2: So what are y'all how are y'all feeling at this point, like,
Speaker 2: oh shit, she about to fuck up the plans? Did
Speaker 2: y'all realize that at that point that that's what that
Speaker 2: was gonna happen?
Speaker 4: Not really, I think, Yeah, I don't think I was. Nah,
Speaker 4: I didn't.
Speaker 1: I don't think I did either.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you noticed it though, right, okay, all right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I knew she Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: Think I was paying attention to all that all that much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they had she had just said I need
Speaker 2: you to do this, but then I knew, I knew
Speaker 2: he was doing it for her, but I didn't.
Speaker 6: I didn't really pay out that much attention to her
Speaker 6: realizing what was going on.
Speaker 1: In snitching right, her snitching on him.
Speaker 2: She thought she was doing the company your service, not
Speaker 2: realizing that Park wanted him to do it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2: So when she raises her suspicions, Austin dismisses them and
Speaker 2: highs the text message from Unie. Lindsey wants to make
Speaker 2: a deal with Woosh for the commission on new clients,
Speaker 2: and then she brings him but says doctor Kim is
Speaker 2: retiring and no longer accepts appointments. At a staff meeting,
Speaker 2: Units announces a fifty million dollar investment in the club,
Speaker 2: confirms Josh will remain general manager, and names Austin the
Speaker 2: new full time physical therapist.
Speaker 4: Well, I said he came up. Yeah, he came on seriously.
Speaker 4: He came on seriously.
Speaker 2: And then later actually and Austin argure over his sudden
Speaker 2: change of plans and growing closer to Units. So this
Speaker 2: is where she's kind of spiraling, and we're seeing her
Speaker 2: really just kind of just losing it at this point
Speaker 2: because of the whole Units element and all that. Any
Speaker 2: any thoughts on how we get closer to the end
Speaker 2: of this particular episode, that's when she went crazy.
Speaker 1: This is when she jumped out the car and tumbles
Speaker 1: down the hill. The left stuff. It makes sense to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she went to They didn't give us enough like
Speaker 4: pre her being crazy or manic. Yeah, for this like
Speaker 4: episode to play out like this, like you you, you
Speaker 4: gotta be.
Speaker 1: Able to have a conversation about this versus what she did.
Speaker 2: It did get extreme, Yeah, but but I feel like
Speaker 2: there are some girlfriends that do be that extreme.
Speaker 4: I feel like it's a build up and they should
Speaker 4: have shown us something to make us be like, nah,
Speaker 4: she might snap.
Speaker 6: It was It was clearly just the reason that's send
Speaker 6: it to the hospital so they can do the healthcare
Speaker 6: issue episode.
Speaker 2: That's all it was. Okay, Yeah, any thoughts on this one. No,
Speaker 2: I'm a I'm you never have nobody jump out the
Speaker 2: car on.
Speaker 1: You, Mike, the one jumping up, that's right.
Speaker 5: I had a girl put her hand on steering wheels
Speaker 5: trying to take us off the road.
Speaker 1: I've had that. I think he told that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they get crazy arguing, Yeah, just arguing, and yeah,
Speaker 2: she basically I'll kill us ball.
Speaker 1: You ain't dating, right, I don't tell yourself he ain't
Speaker 1: living a girlfriend? Like, like threat you like that? What's
Speaker 1: your worst threat?
Speaker 4: I've had bad threats, but not just no moving not
Speaker 4: no moving vehicle like not nah, hell no, I.
Speaker 1: Need to revisit this the worst threat I had.
Speaker 3: I was going to go right into the back of
Speaker 3: a truck. Yes, And I was like, stop for stop playing.
Speaker 3: It's crazy, man. They get crazy, the crazy ones, the
Speaker 3: best ones. That's crazy crazy. That's that's your problem. At
Speaker 3: least she herself have one.
Speaker 9: That's why he settled down right, right, it happened, man,
Speaker 9: But this leads into them people like this right, it's
Speaker 9: been in this part of pussing down.
Speaker 1: Who taught you to use that?
Speaker 5: Taught you how to use yours?
Speaker 1: Like see town top. All right, we were halfway through, man,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to push power through this. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Really, all the comfort of expressible conference. This is where
Speaker 2: Ashley all saying they go to the hospital. Okay, I'll
Speaker 2: just skiped to it. How did any do y'all need
Speaker 2: a refresher or the y'all understand the hospital?
Speaker 1: The scene? What happened?
Speaker 3: This is when she was all beat up and blood
Speaker 3: is yes, yes, this is this is where yeah, this
Speaker 3: is where he got a He got a message from
Speaker 3: Eunice and she started checking his phone and she was
Speaker 3: applying to.
Speaker 1: It, deleting it. That was and this started a.
Speaker 2: Whole thing, the whole episode, and we kind of have
Speaker 2: a sense that he realized that she did it.
Speaker 1: So how are y'all feeling about this whole thing? I
Speaker 1: know at this point y'all done with Ashley? I know.
Speaker 1: I was, oh, yeah, anybody.
Speaker 3: Can take it this this this episode, like I said,
Speaker 3: got a little bit better. But it was just she
Speaker 3: was doing something really fucking stupid. And I didn't understand
Speaker 3: if she if she had a game plan, because if
Speaker 3: you're sending her texts and you can see in your
Speaker 3: phone or in his phone that they're having a conversation,
Speaker 3: why would you think she would at no point bring
Speaker 3: up what you texted her.
Speaker 1: Yes, that was just I mean, I get it.
Speaker 3: She was supposed to be panicking and she wasn't thinking
Speaker 3: it all the way through.
Speaker 1: But nah, I was real dumb with her. I was like,
Speaker 1: you're a fucking idiot. Yes, he was stupid. Anybody else
Speaker 1: had thoughts on this? Yeah?
Speaker 6: I think the one thing I liked from this one
Speaker 6: the oil There were two. He was like, Oh, why
Speaker 6: is that glass smash there? I like that because then
Speaker 6: you see him about to do the same thing. So
Speaker 6: now you can see why is like that the different
Speaker 6: uh well, you know, overall issues with the health care
Speaker 6: center system in general, him being stupid and followed for
Speaker 6: that lady at the Gatorade like her running game on him,
Speaker 6: which just say no, man, it did.
Speaker 1: I was like, bro, what seriously really gonna? What are
Speaker 1: we doing? Character? Yeah, such a people pleaser.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, because I can see myself doing the same
Speaker 3: ship he could, he would do.
Speaker 5: I would do some ship not as extreme, would.
Speaker 3: Like bring me the blue. I had to get a
Speaker 3: blue to this other lady. Why you don't even know her,
Speaker 3: but she really wanted the blue though.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's it's a string version of me,
Speaker 2: but I definitely would be doing something similar to what
Speaker 2: he was doing.
Speaker 1: I done it. My boy does that kind of shit,
Speaker 1: I guess me off. Yeah, I done it.
Speaker 2: My dad was in the hospital, and but it was
Speaker 2: it was for the nurses. It wasn't for like just
Speaker 2: random people. I was getting the nurses, like.
Speaker 3: He bought everybody Gatorade, right right, But I'm saying I
Speaker 3: did it for the nurses or whatever, Like I was
Speaker 3: getting them Starbucks and ship like that. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, But that's different than like, hey, go bring
Speaker 3: me some Starbucks. I really want a latte and they
Speaker 3: got the last latte and you give it to somebody else.
Speaker 4: And she was clearly lying, Oh man, she can't take it.
Speaker 4: It's not working for me. She was setting him up
Speaker 4: the whole time.
Speaker 1: Oh man, because you're so good with that machine. Yes, bro,
Speaker 1: you can't realize that, you right.
Speaker 6: Anyway, Yeah, And then the end of the episode, I
Speaker 6: wish I could remember exactly what she said, but it
Speaker 6: showed how really stupid she was. One that woul talk
Speaker 6: about the deductible. But then there was another scene when
Speaker 6: she was talking to the nurse said, yeah.
Speaker 5: The doubles five thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Oh that Actually that part was funny. That part was funny.
Speaker 3: She didn't unerstand how deductible worked, and I didn't until
Speaker 3: I worked at and T.
Speaker 2: Really sure, yeah, because you got to pay up.
Speaker 4: And I feel her issue I had, But it was
Speaker 4: something else she was talking.
Speaker 6: It was was there and she was there and she
Speaker 6: was just talking to the nurse. God, what what did
Speaker 6: the nurse say? And even yeah, but anyway, she's a
Speaker 6: dumb ass.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well she She's eventually taken into surgery, where
Speaker 2: doctors discover her the overything.
Speaker 1: It's twisted afterwards.
Speaker 2: Uh, hospital representative the couple that Josh has arranged assistance for.
Speaker 4: Them, but it came too late. Devastated Josh. Uh let's see,
Speaker 4: Uh he tried to brob but with the assistance first.
Speaker 4: I think that was interesting show how much of a
Speaker 4: piece of ship that he was. But I was surprised
Speaker 4: because she didn't take it right. She was like, no, No,
Speaker 4: I was surprised at that she did. I'm surprised she
Speaker 4: didn't take Just.
Speaker 1: Make another backup of a backup, you don't have to
Speaker 1: like it was. Yeah.
Speaker 3: That that also got really annoying, Like how do y'all
Speaker 3: not know how this works in the clouds?
Speaker 1: The cloud give him the backup? Like this was irritating
Speaker 1: and they were young, they're supposed to know that, right.
Speaker 5: How did y'all feel about Josh trying to rob her
Speaker 5: in this vulnerable moment?
Speaker 1: He was a piece of ship for that? Ah?
Speaker 2: Really, I mean they were doing it to each other though,
Speaker 2: that's what he was saying. He was just like, well,
Speaker 2: let's not forget that you tried to brob me first.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's still it's an opportunity for him to
Speaker 6: try to take advantage of her situation. I mean, he
Speaker 6: thought she was going to go for it because of
Speaker 6: her situations.
Speaker 4: What makes it? What makes him a piece of shit?
Speaker 4: Because he tried to lead with like he cared. He
Speaker 4: was trying to act like concerned and I'll do this
Speaker 4: for you and this and that, and then he ended
Speaker 4: with if you delete the video, like she didn't come
Speaker 4: in on some.
Speaker 1: I think I really deserved this promotion. She's just so
Speaker 1: straight up Sherman Park told him.
Speaker 6: I don't think that was part of the deal, right,
Speaker 6: I think he was supposed to do it, just because.
Speaker 2: I think my thing is that how we get here
Speaker 2: in the first place, like you and have never stuck
Speaker 2: your nose in our business trying to bribe us. So
Speaker 2: at this point, I'm still like, fuck Ashley, I don't
Speaker 2: give a shit. I'm like, whatever, bribe her ass? Why
Speaker 2: would why why should he care? Like he was trying
Speaker 2: to get this ship deleted, he was looking for another
Speaker 2: opportunity to get a leader and get back to where
Speaker 2: they were. But but you know that that's a perspective
Speaker 2: as well, right, because she's feeling like, you know, they're
Speaker 2: not getting to just do it this job. So it
Speaker 2: just depends on how you look at this whole situation.
Speaker 2: But you work here, you do these things, and it
Speaker 2: is what it is. You're just trying to bribe this
Speaker 2: guy to to get.
Speaker 1: What you want.
Speaker 5: So I really didn't have any sympathy for it, to
Speaker 5: be quite honest, I just.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say I was sympathizing with her. I'm just
Speaker 4: more so saying that he's a piece of ship.
Speaker 5: But that's what I'm saying, like, how's he a piece
Speaker 5: of ship?
Speaker 3: Necessarily because he wouldn't be in this position if she
Speaker 3: would have.
Speaker 4: Never tried to brought him first. You're a Christian man,
Speaker 4: you know you can't. You can't, you can't react, you
Speaker 4: can't do what the devil. You gotta be able to
Speaker 4: hire a plane trying to clear his name though, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, he was trying to clear his
Speaker 4: term spike stupid.
Speaker 1: It was her fault. She fell, Yeah, somebody all bones,
Speaker 1: it's up to it's up the variant thing. Oh yeah sure, yeah.
Speaker 2: So so after josh and and Lindsay lived at home
Speaker 2: actually sneak.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this was fucked up. This is when Ashley sneeps.
Speaker 2: Inside their house, yeah, doing all this foul ship like
Speaker 2: the cats ship.
Speaker 1: Well she didn't essentially, well.
Speaker 2: She kind of left it open food dog, yeah for
Speaker 2: the yeah, by accident, but she mixes her blood into
Speaker 2: the jug juice and what the funk?
Speaker 1: Man that was? I was like, yeah, I was, oh my.
Speaker 3: God, she put her put her Yeah, her period pattern there,
Speaker 3: man never had no red wings spikes.
Speaker 5: Strike right, But that's how this episode end.
Speaker 2: That was fine for y'all. Are y'all feeling show at
Speaker 2: this point still? Not even with that episode, like, oh
Speaker 2: my god?
Speaker 3: That was oh yeah, yeah, this was definitely the peak
Speaker 3: because it was like, what are you fucking doing?
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Oh my god? The dog? Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: But then it turned into them looking for the dog,
Speaker 1: and so it starts to kind of the.
Speaker 2: Bond and it's like okay, which leads us into five,
Speaker 2: which is like I am killing my flesh without without it,
Speaker 2: which is when Josh and Lindsey return home discovering that Birdberry,
Speaker 2: which is the dog, is missing. So yeah, we're going
Speaker 2: this just searched the whole episode. How are y'all feeling
Speaker 2: about this part? You said y'all. This This is where.
Speaker 1: Y'all didn't have any intrigue.
Speaker 4: It went all the way up and then I feel
Speaker 4: like it feel all the way down. I like, just
Speaker 4: hit the brakes too fast. I understand what they were
Speaker 4: trying to do with make this relationship with the two
Speaker 4: women and then you have whatever happens from now once
Speaker 4: we get to it, But I just it took too long.
Speaker 1: I liked this episode because it showed.
Speaker 2: Like how arguments can go and in a relationship like
Speaker 2: y'all both are blaming each other for something that neither
Speaker 2: one of y'all did, And I like that that depiction
Speaker 2: of that because I feel like that happens a lot,
Speaker 2: especially when stuff gets misconstrued in an argument, and I
Speaker 2: feel like this was a good representation of that.
Speaker 1: Did y'all take anything from that at all? Yeah? And
Speaker 1: how much they just don't like each other? So that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like, how much do you not really
Speaker 1: like each other?
Speaker 3: Or is it just a relationship full of like misunderstanding?
Speaker 4: Well, this this, this is when they just really realized
Speaker 4: they just can't be together.
Speaker 1: And it all started. It all happened because of them.
Speaker 6: Like they were on the on the up and up,
Speaker 6: but losing that dog, which is a really pivotal thing
Speaker 6: for them, and it was almost like the dog kind
Speaker 6: of kept them glued together. And now the dog is gone,
Speaker 6: you know, and they have both have a history of
Speaker 6: incidences with the dog.
Speaker 1: So Josh knows he didn't do it. She knows she
Speaker 1: didn't do it, but both the other ones think that
Speaker 1: they didn't.
Speaker 6: Right because they know they didn't do it, and instead
Speaker 6: of asking, well, if you didn't do it, I didn't
Speaker 6: do it then and what.
Speaker 1: Could have actually happened and then investigating.
Speaker 6: But because their relationship been so fractured up to this point,
Speaker 6: they're not going to really be open to listen.
Speaker 1: To one another.
Speaker 6: So it's just gonna be you're just gonna be talking
Speaker 6: across the room and yelling across each other at this point.
Speaker 6: But they came together to try to find the dog.
Speaker 6: But man, when they found that fake ass damn dog though.
Speaker 1: That was a guy from a stranger thing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, they brought the dog home because I was like, yeah,
Speaker 6: they're gonna breathing the dog home. But one thing that
Speaker 6: bought the dog home was like, oh, it's probably a
Speaker 6: rap for the dog. But I did like to man,
Speaker 6: that damn that damn wolf was about to eat bro.
Speaker 1: I didn't like that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but well, her body slamming the goddamn wolf.
Speaker 1: I was tight. You would do that, I will.
Speaker 3: I bet your wife would do it too if one
Speaker 3: of them motherfuckers were coming after her. Boy, I could
Speaker 3: kind of, I don't know, for some reason, it kind
Speaker 3: of made it make sense a little bit. It didn't
Speaker 3: seem that crazy because the wolf was.
Speaker 1: Coming at her and she just grabbed him and did that.
Speaker 1: I could kind of see a mom doing.
Speaker 4: Some Yeah, she wasn't afraid of it, okay, because.
Speaker 5: Child, And that's how that's what he's trying to depict.
Speaker 1: Since she wasn't afraid, she wasn't ca fears.
Speaker 3: She was trying to protect it from or trying to
Speaker 3: protect the little dog from the wall.
Speaker 1: It was just a reaction.
Speaker 2: And I feel like that was a good representation because
Speaker 2: I feel like a mother would do something.
Speaker 1: Man, when that dog tried to play with that toy,
Speaker 1: it's not for you. Yes, yes, the dog don't know,
Speaker 1: get the damn dog the toy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But it showed in this episode how they both
Speaker 2: were dealing with the trauma, right, and they were dealing
Speaker 2: with in their own ways, like he went and went
Speaker 2: on the fucking ski trip or whatever with rocking out
Speaker 2: with a band that was crazy, and then she's back
Speaker 2: home just obsessed with trying to find find her. He
Speaker 2: was just like, yo, I hope you're not still out
Speaker 2: there finding them, and they both come to the realis that, Okay,
Speaker 2: maybe I shouldn't be blaming the other person.
Speaker 1: For this or whatever.
Speaker 2: So I thought that was endearing personally, you know, just
Speaker 2: you finally just kind of like, Okay, maybe it was
Speaker 2: my fault. Maybe I'm the one that left the door open,
Speaker 2: you know, because y'all are trying.
Speaker 1: To deal with this thing.
Speaker 2: And yeah, that's pretty much the gist of this episode.
Speaker 2: The only other thing that really happens in this episode is, uh.
Speaker 1: Josh agrees.
Speaker 2: About their marriage, that that they should that it isn't
Speaker 2: working and they need a divorce.
Speaker 6: Which seemed rather sudden to me. He has that I
Speaker 6: thought they were kind of they got back together.
Speaker 3: He was trying to convince himself they still cared about her,
Speaker 3: like he's not even attracted to that lady.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he's attracted. I mean I think they
Speaker 5: showed later that he's still.
Speaker 1: About her. They show he's still I don't think he
Speaker 1: was attracted to Like.
Speaker 6: This thing was just like, I don't know, it's just
Speaker 6: I don't know. It still felt sudden like they were
Speaker 6: trying to make it work. And then this was the
Speaker 6: one thing was like, you know what, maybe you're right,
Speaker 6: maybe we shouldn't be together instead of they just had
Speaker 6: an argument over what happened with the dog. And once
Speaker 6: they can find and realized that that was the center
Speaker 6: of the issue, they can get back on the right path.
Speaker 4: They would have been fire, but they just used it.
Speaker 4: He just used it a way to get out of it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: closing out, the dog actually dies.
Speaker 1: I didn't expect that at all either.
Speaker 3: Birdberry dies and they return home and this is where
Speaker 3: we see him finally drink that damn nasty y ah
Speaker 3: it's juice. And that's pretty much how that episode is.
Speaker 3: Any any any other takeaways.
Speaker 1: They did that nice with him pouring out the orange.
Speaker 1: He's not going to drink it.
Speaker 3: I'm about to drink this whole damn Jesus. Yeah, that
Speaker 3: was disgusting. So we go into six. We've almost done.
Speaker 1: Y'all.
Speaker 2: Those blue remembered heels is what it's called one month later,
Speaker 2: parking in her chief count to review their efforts to
Speaker 2: conceal doctor uh Kim scandal. They decided to use wood
Speaker 2: Woosh's medical tourism package just to funnel the money, leading
Speaker 2: the club to open in Truci's branded spa and promote
Speaker 2: the clinic to members. How did y'all feel about this
Speaker 2: whole thing, them trying to get money from the from
Speaker 2: the members.
Speaker 4: It was at this point, Yeah, it was over all
Speaker 4: of that stuff that they did, and that was this
Speaker 4: should have been six episodes.
Speaker 1: It should have ended at six because all of this
Speaker 1: was extra. It was extra.
Speaker 2: But it did show different ways that these corporations try
Speaker 2: to get money or funnel money by getting these dumb
Speaker 2: ass programs and ship that you can sign up for
Speaker 2: just trying to get so I thought that was interesting
Speaker 2: to see. But I get y'all, it wasn't that strong
Speaker 2: in the series. Like I didn't really give a shit.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I just didn't give a shit about
Speaker 2: the higher ups in their plans. I carried more about
Speaker 2: middle class to lower class.
Speaker 1: Issues than the higher up issues. Any thoughts on it
Speaker 1: for you can? Nah, not really.
Speaker 6: I think at this point, you know, we have them,
Speaker 6: well you haven't gotten there yet, but yeah, no, not really.
Speaker 1: Where haven't I gotten Just it's kind of just Ward
Speaker 1: of Roses sort of thing.
Speaker 6: But yeah, with everybody kind of staking their claim and
Speaker 6: now they're trying to align with h theyve and Josh
Speaker 6: and his wife trying to get with the other group,
Speaker 6: Austin and Ashley.
Speaker 2: In this episode, they also showing like how how everybody's
Speaker 2: dealing with shit. You got a hier was dealing with
Speaker 2: that ship, you got Josh and Lindsey dealing with the divorce,
Speaker 2: and then you got Ashley and Austin struggling with financial
Speaker 2: issues like hospital bills and other debts.
Speaker 1: That's any of that interest y'all?
Speaker 2: Any of these storylines interest interest y'all in this moment
Speaker 2: because they're just kind of depicting back and forth how
Speaker 2: they're all struggling at this moment. So did any struggle
Speaker 2: stand up to y'all at over another or at all?
Speaker 4: I thought that the most interesting part I feel like
Speaker 4: in this episode to me was the member of the
Speaker 4: country club who was like acting like he was helping
Speaker 4: Josh and his gossiping at the same time. I feel
Speaker 4: like that was an interesting realistic storyline that they got from.
Speaker 1: Is that what he was on? He was on so
Speaker 1: I saw it, Yeah, very familiar.
Speaker 4: I liked his role in him like maneuvering through the background,
Speaker 4: the super rich guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, legit and ship. Okay, so you liked this. I
Speaker 1: did like that. Oh the guy with the younger girlfriend.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, so none of that interests all. So what
Speaker 2: about when Josh like files for divorce. It just kind
Speaker 2: of wants her to sign the papers, but she doesn't
Speaker 2: want to sign the papers because she's like, no, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not about to basically give up one of the Jackpie.
Speaker 2: And in your ass afterwards, after we get divorced, you
Speaker 2: hit the Jackpie.
Speaker 1: How did y'all feel about this? Part? Made sense? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Sense to you? Yeah, made sense on both their parts.
Speaker 3: I can see why he would be like, nah, I
Speaker 3: built this, and I can see why she would be like, na,
Speaker 3: you owe me at least a certain percentage.
Speaker 1: Do you think he was intentionally doing it?
Speaker 2: Do you think he was intentionally moving it forward?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: He absolutely was, because when she said something to him,
Speaker 3: he didn't deny it or anything. He was just like,
Speaker 3: all right, well I'm gonna leave or whatever the fuck
Speaker 3: He said, but nah, it wasn't.
Speaker 1: It was definitely intentional.
Speaker 4: I feel like she could have just got there written
Speaker 4: in a divorcee contract that if that comes up, then
Speaker 4: you gotta pay me a certain amount. So I don't know,
Speaker 4: I didn't know. I wouldn't one hundred percent sure if
Speaker 4: that was his motivation. I'm thinking he considered it, but
Speaker 4: he more so just wanted to leave and was just
Speaker 4: trying to get this done. But I do think it
Speaker 4: crossed his mind. I don't think it was the sole
Speaker 4: motivation to get a time it really thought, what about you?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I try, you know, I don't. I
Speaker 1: really don't know. I think.
Speaker 6: I think when he realized that he didn't sign it
Speaker 6: and she wasn't a title to it, that he realized
Speaker 6: that this.
Speaker 1: Is the opportunity for him to keep more money.
Speaker 6: But I think I'm definitely in agreement with Mike is
Speaker 6: that she said, like way earlier, that she basically spent
Speaker 6: all of her family's money in helping him, and therefore
Speaker 6: she is entitled in that because she's broke because of him,
Speaker 6: so he should do right by her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So the next thing we see throughout
Speaker 2: the episode is Lindsey befriends Ashley and Josh befriends Austin,
Speaker 2: both trying to get access to this footage to pretty
Speaker 2: much blackmail the other person in this whole divorced situation.
Speaker 2: Anything about any of these situations and trigut y'all, anything
Speaker 2: that stood out to y'all about, uh, Lindsay and her
Speaker 2: actions with Ashley or Josh's actions with with Austin, and
Speaker 2: just as a refresher, you know, Lindsey and and Ashley,
Speaker 2: they are just doing all kind of shit together, growing closer.
Speaker 1: She's trying to show her how to work work the
Speaker 1: system in.
Speaker 2: The at the club, just really trying to do things
Speaker 2: to befriend her and then Josh in order to befriend Austin.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, Yo, can you can I get some
Speaker 2: of these therapy sessions they have? You know, they have
Speaker 2: this they smoke this this weed to make them have
Speaker 2: hallucinations and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So this is what happened in this moment. Any of
Speaker 1: that stuff stuck out to y'all.
Speaker 6: This motherfucker using chaty BT the fix that I think
Speaker 6: it just everything he was doing, like you know, he
Speaker 6: was using that stuff, but not not really I don't
Speaker 6: think they really went anywhere with any of this, you know.
Speaker 6: I think if one of the things that maybe I
Speaker 6: liked was like was Ashley learning how to play the game,
Speaker 6: you know, because there's a game that's played by complimenting
Speaker 6: and doing certain things in order to get something in
Speaker 6: the change, but not making it seem like that because
Speaker 6: she didn't know how to play the game and showing
Speaker 6: that on this when you get a when you go
Speaker 6: to another level, it's a different world there, and and
Speaker 6: that's how it operates, and the ultimate goal was to
Speaker 6: get I think she wanted to.
Speaker 1: Was to use her you know.
Speaker 6: So I did like that part of it, but but
Speaker 6: outside of that, you know that that was about it.
Speaker 6: I think at this point it's like I think they
Speaker 6: really started to lose momentum.
Speaker 4: Just get to the point I just did this come on,
Speaker 4: like tell me get get us where we're going quicker,
Speaker 4: and I didn't. And then once we got there, it
Speaker 4: wasn't worth it, like as far as the doctor stuff.
Speaker 4: So yeah, all of this was it played off with
Speaker 4: the plane scene and she found out about the dog
Speaker 4: or whatever it may be. But in the moment, it's
Speaker 4: like real, y'all, like y'all landing on thick Man, like
Speaker 4: why would they be getting cool with each other?
Speaker 1: Like it just yeah, it didn't there were enemies.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so and using like their new situation, you know,
Speaker 6: to develop his friendship because now they need something from them.
Speaker 1: But you don't even like any of these people, you know.
Speaker 6: And it's kind of like in the Nice Guys, I'm
Speaker 6: meant to bring this up when they were walking and
Speaker 6: it was Healy in March and Heally was telling that
Speaker 6: story about Nixon and he told his big long story.
Speaker 1: It was like he was like, what was the point
Speaker 1: of the store.
Speaker 6: It was like that the point of the story is
Speaker 6: there's two sides to everything. And it was like, yeah,
Speaker 6: you can just say that, just said two sides taking
Speaker 6: me down this long solo right.
Speaker 4: Watch Nice Guy's review that we got coming out. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so to Spike's point, yeah, just like get to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, two things came from this this episode that were
Speaker 2: I guess significant, or was supposed to be significant. After
Speaker 2: the whole medical trip, well the whole drug trip. By
Speaker 2: the end of that, the neighbor comes up and then
Speaker 2: Austin finds out that from the footage that Ashley basically
Speaker 2: was the one that came to the to the house,
Speaker 2: and that's probably how the dog got out.
Speaker 5: The other thing that happened is the tennis player Woosh
Speaker 5: is trying.
Speaker 2: To now blackmail the owner, which I don't understand why
Speaker 2: he thought this would work. He tried to blackmail and
Speaker 2: he ends up there when he goes out, when he
Speaker 2: gets he gets hit.
Speaker 1: By a car. Was he trying to blackmail her? Yes,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't. I didn't didn't take that either,
Speaker 1: he said, no, he did.
Speaker 2: He absolutely did, because he's like, Okay, I see you
Speaker 2: trying to fundel the money through this program.
Speaker 1: He he he.
Speaker 3: Mentioned that to her, to her like he mentioned that
Speaker 3: I see what you're doing or whatever.
Speaker 6: I thought he was just trying to get away from
Speaker 6: that back club and go to another business because that
Speaker 6: was his step mom.
Speaker 1: Right. She had a sort of yes, yeah, I can't understanding.
Speaker 3: He was he was the son of her ex husband
Speaker 3: that she actually liked, right, Okay, but he wasn't her son.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: But I took it like she just did that because
Speaker 3: she was like she killed him to make it fun.
Speaker 1: I can remember now, I'm telling you, like I don't
Speaker 1: remember him trying to black Men. He revealed.
Speaker 2: He revealed that the payments are bribes, and he acts
Speaker 2: the chairman to him to to give him a vice
Speaker 2: president seat. He did all that in that same scene.
Speaker 2: He did all that in that same scene. I went
Speaker 2: back and watched it because like, why the fuck did
Speaker 2: he did?
Speaker 1: She kill him? Well? Why did he end up dead?
Speaker 1: And it was her? She She did the one that
Speaker 1: sent that.
Speaker 6: When he got hit, I was like, Jesus, yeah, that's
Speaker 6: why I'm out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: That's why.
Speaker 2: Because he tried to Robert, Like I said, this whole
Speaker 2: show is somebody trying to brob somebody. He tried to
Speaker 2: brow the fucking owner of the club, and she wasn't
Speaker 2: having that ship.
Speaker 1: That old lady man.
Speaker 6: When when Isaac was like or Josh and the show
Speaker 6: was like, uh, she said, yes, keep seeing some Hispanic
Speaker 6: guy walker. He was like, oh, that's speed. She's like, no,
Speaker 6: it is that you're Greek.
Speaker 1: Was actually kind of fron what that was. She refused
Speaker 1: to believe he was in Hispanic.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well that's how that one and that was the
Speaker 5: two significant things of that.
Speaker 1: That was that was a hell of a wait. End
Speaker 1: the episode, or I will say that.
Speaker 2: So now we're going to seven. What it's called the
Speaker 2: hour separation. This is where Ashley, Lindsay, and Ava. They
Speaker 2: go to UH to Korea and UH Josh presents Lindsay
Speaker 2: with the forced papers and Park leads her phone behind
Speaker 2: before going back to Soul. This is what units finds
Speaker 2: and learners that parts crimes. Now she's now she's us
Speaker 2: realizing that Park is doing crimes. And then she goes
Speaker 2: to Austin about it. And then they both have this
Speaker 2: phone that has the evidence on it. And whereas he
Speaker 2: wasn't going to go career, now he's on the plane.
Speaker 2: How did y'all feel about this whole beat up and
Speaker 2: set up? I think it was his was founding in
Speaker 2: the context of the show. I think there was some things.
Speaker 2: I was like, why did you do that? Like why
Speaker 2: did you flush the phone?
Speaker 6: And I didn't know you could flush the phone down
Speaker 6: the toilet, didn't She said she flushed it, but.
Speaker 1: No, we saw her do it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, but it seem like the phone actually
Speaker 6: flushed through.
Speaker 1: And was gone a city in the toilet.
Speaker 3: Because those airplane toilets, some ships are those things are there,
Speaker 3: they suck hard. I've heard I've heard that airplane. You
Speaker 3: never have to show on the airplane. Yeah, they'll pull
Speaker 3: your whole guts out. You'd be like that boy in Invincible.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that bothered me.
Speaker 6: Uh but I did like when she caught uh, Eunice and.
Speaker 1: And Austin in the back talking and she was about
Speaker 1: to whoop her ass.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's that's the main takeaway from this one. So
Speaker 2: you got us there. So yeah, what did y'all think
Speaker 2: about this when she finally realizes that, fuck, this girl
Speaker 2: is the one that this is why my dog? How
Speaker 2: did y'all think all ship was the fence. I knew
Speaker 2: it was over for her point.
Speaker 1: And what she did was even more disgusting.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, they can get more disgusting than the
Speaker 3: fucking blood ship.
Speaker 5: But I y'all feel like this was worse than the blood.
Speaker 1: It has to be rubbed on the toilet sea yeah,
Speaker 1: in the side. Yeah, she's on a plane. Yeah that's
Speaker 1: way worse.
Speaker 3: Yeah, people's guts are all fucked up on planes, and
Speaker 3: it's a different kind of doodo.
Speaker 1: I'll take blood up her dudo any day, period.
Speaker 8: Blood.
Speaker 1: I'd rather get red wings than eat the ass of
Speaker 1: with the orange juice, you know, the phone. What was
Speaker 1: she wiping around the toilet?
Speaker 3: She was wiping it was like a paper towel or yeah,
Speaker 3: in the drink and that's a that's a lot due.
Speaker 6: Around the remember the glass that drink that she went
Speaker 6: and got and stuff like that. Yeah, that was that
Speaker 6: was awful. But in this episode, didn't Austin tell.
Speaker 1: You So this episode where yeah, he finally is like, no,
Speaker 1: I can't be with Ashley. I'd rather be with Units.
Speaker 2: But this is where we also see that Units like
Speaker 2: that at all.
Speaker 1: She was just like with a phone that nigga, like
Speaker 1: this phone. This is what she was on. She didn't
Speaker 1: really care about nothing else.
Speaker 4: She was like, I can't I can't say it back,
Speaker 4: you break But she also led him on until you
Speaker 4: break up with Ashley?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean she probably would explored it, but it
Speaker 1: just wasn't on the same level. She say that.
Speaker 6: She said something about while you're having a situation going on.
Speaker 6: Because I was waiting for her to like say it
Speaker 6: back and show something.
Speaker 3: I thought she was just saying that ship. I didn't
Speaker 3: think she really meant it. I don't think she really
Speaker 3: meant like, oh if you break up with actually all dated. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but he was just oblivious, I think at that moment
Speaker 3: about it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, this one ends, so that whole ship is
Speaker 2: going on on the plane, we find that, and they're
Speaker 2: going back and forth with Lindsey and all this, and
Speaker 2: they're trying to convince him like no, motherfucker's just really
Speaker 2: trying to trying to trying to.
Speaker 1: Do some ship or whatever.
Speaker 2: But the way this one is is that we get well,
Speaker 2: go back to where Josh is. He's back in California
Speaker 2: and he gets attacked by an assassin.
Speaker 1: That anything y'all took away from that part.
Speaker 4: This too can't be At this point point, y'all like,
Speaker 4: come home, bro, agree y'all playing with us? It was like, bro,
Speaker 4: what this happening?
Speaker 1: This episode was horrible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they were trying to get rid of him
Speaker 2: to just so they'll be a dependant on him.
Speaker 1: No, I get why. It was just ridiculous. Oh that's
Speaker 1: what you're saying.
Speaker 3: The whole action with him, right, They wanted to make
Speaker 3: it seem like he committed suicide.
Speaker 1: Well not yeah, yeah, that's what I meant by but yeah,
Speaker 1: I get you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that but that was the whole reason though
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, they just didn't execute
Speaker 2: it writers.
Speaker 1: What y'all saying? Yeah? Stupid?
Speaker 2: All right, this leads us to the last episode, y'all,
Speaker 2: So it will stay this way and you will obey damn.
Speaker 2: So the attacker tends to kill Josh like we were saying,
Speaker 2: by staging his death as a suicide, which Mike mention
Speaker 2: and then he but he decides to fly to career
Speaker 2: trying to save Lindsay rather than escape to his family in.
Speaker 1: Cuba because he had a way out.
Speaker 2: Was just like, yo, that's all you gotta do is
Speaker 2: or whatever y'all think you should just went that route
Speaker 2: with it?
Speaker 1: He's the ticket.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But in Korea, Unit secretly slips the USB to
Speaker 2: Austin with that he's able to download before escaping parks Men,
Speaker 2: Austin swallows the drive.
Speaker 1: Did y'all think that was a good idea? No?
Speaker 4: No, it's like what are you doing patting him down though?
Speaker 1: Stick in your draws or something.
Speaker 2: But nah, yeah, uh, Parksman the duck Josh from the airport.
Speaker 2: So this is happening because Josh, like I said, he
Speaker 2: didn't go to cub but he came and they got
Speaker 2: him from the airport. Doctor Kim Helpston escape On the
Speaker 2: drive to the headquarters Ashley and Lindsay and Austin. They
Speaker 2: meet up with doctor Kim at the clinic, who says
Speaker 2: he wants to do the right thing and help them arrest.
Speaker 1: Did y'all how did y'all feel about this part?
Speaker 2: Because he was just it was just a long drawn
Speaker 2: out thing where he was speaking to them in Korea,
Speaker 2: but none of them motherfuckers understood what he was saying.
Speaker 2: Did y'all realize is that none of them actually understood
Speaker 2: what he was trying to say.
Speaker 5: Let me obvious. So at first you didn't realize it.
Speaker 1: I don't think so I did. I did.
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, I don't think neither one of these
Speaker 3: motherfuckers know what he's saying.
Speaker 1: But they didn't. They didn't.
Speaker 2: They didn't reveal that until the end, So I thought
Speaker 2: that was funny. Let's see. But anyway, they escaped to
Speaker 2: the streets, but Josh unexpectedly finds them, allowing parks Men
Speaker 2: to recap to recapture them.
Speaker 1: While in captivity. Josh and Lindsey.
Speaker 2: Has like a reconciliation type of thing, so they have
Speaker 2: like a heart to heart, so they used this moment
Speaker 2: for both couples to kind of have these deep conversations.
Speaker 5: Did anything of these conversations come out?
Speaker 4: Did this affects you all at all? I thought they
Speaker 4: were I thought they were all lying mm hmm. It
Speaker 4: didn't feel authentically and neither one of them were just
Speaker 4: in this extreme situation, so they feel like they wanted
Speaker 4: to reconcile men defenses, whatever.
Speaker 1: It may be. But it didn't sound real and it
Speaker 1: didn't turn out to be. Well. I guess it did
Speaker 1: to a.
Speaker 2: Certain extent because Ashley ends up giving Austin the USB
Speaker 2: drive that she had been lying about of course this
Speaker 2: whole fucking time.
Speaker 5: So I think the conversation did affect her.
Speaker 2: And I think the conversation between Josh and Yes and
Speaker 2: Lindsay was real as well, because he went to jail
Speaker 2: for her. So I think these two couples deep down
Speaker 2: loved each other. It was just these outside things that
Speaker 2: what I took from it that affect these relationships is
Speaker 2: how I ultimately saw these moments facts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did y'all take did y'all? Did you? I think
Speaker 1: at this point I was ready for it to be over.
Speaker 6: I think all this stuff was stupid, the chase, the
Speaker 6: trying to kill, all this other stuff. It's just like
Speaker 6: what are we riding here? And why you know? And
Speaker 6: and I don't you know. Yeah, I was at this
Speaker 6: point kind of just over it. I think they just
Speaker 6: kind of lost the plot and just lost everything and
Speaker 6: just started to just do shit.
Speaker 1: So yeah, even even.
Speaker 6: The doctor's sudden turn about switching and going against his
Speaker 6: his wife like that came out of nowhere, so we
Speaker 6: didn't see him like showing any type of remorse about
Speaker 6: what he did.
Speaker 4: I think it was I'm trying to remember. I thought
Speaker 4: it was something that was seer that I did think
Speaker 4: was interesting. But man, yeah, nah, okay, that's fun.
Speaker 2: So close to the ending here, Like I said, actually
Speaker 2: gave him a USB drive.
Speaker 1: He often escapes and heads for the police.
Speaker 2: But after sensing units is which we all already knew,
Speaker 2: hesitation to say I love you back doing a phone call,
Speaker 2: he instead offers the drive over to Park in exchange
Speaker 2: for freedom. So he's a change for freedom from Park.
Speaker 2: Josh is arrested for in Belzamint. Doctor Kim's death is
Speaker 2: rules in suicide Parks of Voice, Punishment and Austin Ashley
Speaker 2: basically reconcile their relationship so that all happens, and then
Speaker 2: we are for fast forward to eight years later where
Speaker 2: Ashley is the new general manager of the club. She
Speaker 2: and Austin are married with a child. But did we
Speaker 2: also see like this repeated cycle of them having tension
Speaker 2: between them? After the release, Josh chooses not to contract
Speaker 2: to contact Lindsay. Lindsay is now in the UK with
Speaker 2: a new husband and a child. At this point, how
Speaker 2: y'all feeling like, do y'all feel like there's just a
Speaker 2: waste of time? Did it make sense in the story?
Speaker 2: Did y'all think any of this point was gonna happen
Speaker 2: at this point?
Speaker 1: I think my favorite part was when.
Speaker 6: Uh, he kept trying to tell units he loves her
Speaker 6: and she.
Speaker 1: Oh that was so uncomfortable. Yeah, oh my goodness. I
Speaker 1: was like, bro, like he did all that. He was
Speaker 1: defeated running too.
Speaker 5: He was running like Tom Cruise, trying to keep trying
Speaker 5: to save her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because yeah he was.
Speaker 4: He told because he told Ashley that, but of course
Speaker 4: as was and she didn't realize it like oh, now
Speaker 4: you want to come back to me?
Speaker 3: But so yeah, they did a really good job though
Speaker 3: with his acting in this scene where he realized like, oh,
Speaker 3: she doesn't she don't really fuck with me like that?
Speaker 3: That was That was actually a pretty good scene. That
Speaker 3: was always well.
Speaker 2: I think even going back to those conversations though it's
Speaker 2: an intimate conversation when he was just like, you don't
Speaker 2: you don't really love.
Speaker 1: Me, you just love the idea of me.
Speaker 2: Basically, you're because of the trauma that you experience in
Speaker 2: your family. I thought that was a good dialogue. I
Speaker 2: thought those two dialogues were good. I think you stepped
Speaker 2: off of that moment. Did you take anything away from
Speaker 2: those two dialogues at all?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I just hatred of Ashley.
Speaker 3: I got you because he wasn't I mean, he was
Speaker 3: a piece of shit too though he was, you know
Speaker 3: he was. He was fucking worthless, was lying about all
Speaker 3: types of shit. They were both just trash people.
Speaker 2: So the episode closes with Park, still unpunished, visits to
Speaker 2: the grave of her first husband in the midst that
Speaker 2: wealth cannot buy time, and reflects on her loneliness. The
Speaker 2: episode closes with an overhead view of like a garden
Speaker 2: type of situation, which is called us summersorro y'all familiar
Speaker 2: with that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was that you're talking about?
Speaker 3: The final scene where there was all the other scenes around. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that was just them trying to be our se.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well it's called a Yeah, it's very white loaders, but
Speaker 2: it means wandering as as well as the world where
Speaker 2: within cycling change. So it's basically running around in circles
Speaker 2: is what that's supposed to have represented. And that basically
Speaker 2: was the representation of the of the series. It's just
Speaker 2: the basically this vicious cycle and whatnot. But that you know,
Speaker 2: if you look deeper into the meaning, that's.
Speaker 1: What that's supposed to simolize. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Cool.
Speaker 2: And then over the credits, background noises the birds chirping
Speaker 2: slowly changes the changes the flies to buzzing, possibly alluding
Speaker 2: to parks plat passing.
Speaker 5: It's what they say that kind of symbolizes.
Speaker 2: So yeah, man, that that is how they concluded Beef
Speaker 2: Part two. Like I said in the beginning, I think
Speaker 2: this is very white loaded loaded, lotus ish.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I didn't mind it, man, I thought I thought,
Speaker 5: I thought it was fun.
Speaker 2: I think I think it does take I know, y'all,
Speaker 2: but I just do you think it takes a couple
Speaker 2: like maybe another watch to kind of get some of
Speaker 2: the metaphors and what they were trying to do in
Speaker 2: it to.
Speaker 1: Have more appreciation for it.
Speaker 2: I think I think they were trying to be deep
Speaker 2: with it than the first one. And yeah, I pretty
Speaker 2: much enjoyed it, so I definitely would recommend it possible personally,
Speaker 2: how overall after that, y'all feel.
Speaker 4: The same or I wasn't mad at it, but I mean,
Speaker 4: I ain't feel like I wasted my time watching anything.
Speaker 4: I just don't think that they've done a good job
Speaker 4: towards the end. If it had some real good stuff
Speaker 4: there in the middle or some other places they could
Speaker 4: have went, it would have been more interesting to me.
Speaker 4: But uh, if somebody asked me should they watch it,
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be like, hell, no, check it out with you.
Speaker 2: Like you might hear something from it, feel the same
Speaker 2: Like no, No, I would tell them, now, don't watch this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how I would tell them, even though I didn't
Speaker 3: really care for the first season, I would say, go
Speaker 3: back and watch the first season. At least that was creative.
Speaker 3: This just felt like a really bad rip off. So no,
Speaker 3: I can't recommend this ship.
Speaker 4: Gosh, what about you Ken? No season three? M they
Speaker 4: said that That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, we're good.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: Well, I still will be looking forward to another season personally,
Speaker 2: that ship by yourself. Yeah, I like the series, this
Speaker 2: Beef series personally, I'd be curious to see what direction
Speaker 2: they go with next time.
Speaker 1: But zombies, but yeah, man. That concludes our review of
Speaker 1: the eight episode series of Beef Real Quick.
Speaker 6: They said season two had a forty to sixty percent
Speaker 6: dropping viewership.
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. I am not surprised. The critics was
Speaker 1: killing this. I didn't know that happened killing Yeah, what,
Speaker 1: it's a different thing. The drop of nothing's really pained.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but season one had such a high, you know, viewership,
Speaker 3: and people loved it even if I didn't. I think
Speaker 3: a fifty percent drop is pretty significant.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think I think they mixed the mark on messaging here,
Speaker 2: whereas the other one was pretty pretty clear what they
Speaker 2: were doing with the beef. And I think Ali one
Speaker 2: was a good character, and Steven and Stephen and what
Speaker 2: were in that in that one? This one, I don't
Speaker 2: know if these characters sold it like that, you know.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and I think they were kind of trying
Speaker 2: to tell too many different stories instead of focusing on
Speaker 2: just one beef. Like in general, I think they were
Speaker 2: just like I said, they did the generation theme, but I.
Speaker 1: Think it just got a little too carried away. Yep,
Speaker 1: so you know.
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, that this concludes our review. Thank you
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