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Speaker 1: Good morning, Happy Wednesday. You've made it to the middle

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Speaker 1: of the week. Mark Dyton's still floating on the high

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Speaker 1: of the Chicago Bears win this past weekend. I walked

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Speaker 1: in and said good morning to him today and he's like,

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Speaker 1: it's a great day to be a Bears fan. He's

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Speaker 1: good to go. He's good to go. James Boyd, good morning,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen, Good morning. A lot going on basketball, especially

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Speaker 1: we get ready for Indiana football coming up on Monday night.

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Speaker 1: A quick programming note on that this coming Monday night,

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Speaker 1: the Pacers will be playing here on the fan airtime

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Speaker 1: six thirty. Also six thirty the yeartime for the National

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Speaker 1: Championship broadcast on WIBC. Indiana football will be playing over

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Speaker 1: there because we've got a Pacers game that night. So

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Speaker 1: a good, big, strong signal over there at WIBC, So

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Speaker 1: it'll be fun to listen to that game. In the meantime.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen you guys for a couple of days.

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Speaker 1: Anything big I need to know about Kevin Bowen, Well.

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Speaker 2: It's the first time Mark Dyton's put on clothes since

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Speaker 2: Saturday nights.

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Speaker 1: Been run around in a Bears depends going on.

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Speaker 2: You waited for your return, So consider yourself lucky that.

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Speaker 3: It's a new and odd feeling. I have to say, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I love that you.

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Speaker 2: Were at I think one of the better playoff games

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Speaker 2: of the weekend. Right, Yeah, you were with Panthers Rams,

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Speaker 2: were you not?

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Speaker 1: You know? You and I were having this discussion moment

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Speaker 1: ago the Rams and the and the Panthers played in Charlotte.

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Speaker 1: I was at that game and it was sold out.

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Speaker 1: And his first time in four years that I've been

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Speaker 1: there that I've seen it a largely overwhelmingly James Panther's

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Speaker 1: crowd in the stands. So it's interesting to me that

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Speaker 1: in one city, Indianapolis, you can have an eight to

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Speaker 1: nine team that everybody is marching with pitchforks and fire

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Speaker 1: brands out towards West fifty sixth. Then you got another

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Speaker 1: up about. It's just all where you come from, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean one team in the playoffs, the other

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Speaker 4: team didn't. So I guess that's a big part of it.

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Speaker 4: And we look at that cro think, Kevin, the last

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Speaker 4: time I was there at the Kenny had two pick sixes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Bryce Young on the first play of the game, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So that was a banner day for Kenny Moore

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Speaker 4: than second. Whereas with Bryce, I think he's shown some

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's looked pretty good. I did have the good

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Speaker 1: fortune though, I sat right next to Bill Pollian for

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Speaker 1: the entirety of the football game, So he and I

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Speaker 1: had a lot of great conversation. And I asked, Bill,

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Speaker 1: because everybody wants to talk to me about Indiana football.

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Speaker 1: People when they find out it from Indianapolis, whether they

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Speaker 1: to talk about Indiana football. Bill Pollion was no different.

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Speaker 1: I said, Bill, why is Kurt signetty? What is it

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Speaker 1: you see in him? He said three things. Said first

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Speaker 1: of all, he is uncanny at identifying talent that he

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Speaker 1: That's just who he is at this point in time.

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Speaker 1: And he said number three, they're always fresh. You know,

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Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti talks about it, and it's kind of a

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Speaker 1: practice ninety minutes a day, three or four times a week,

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Speaker 1: seven o'clock. Kurt Signette's not checking on them. Everybody can't

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Speaker 1: And I thought it was interesting for someone like Bill Pollian,

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Speaker 2: So does that mean the Rooney family should give Kurt

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of national people that would love

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry James, But yes, without question, yes, James number two,

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Speaker 6: This feels like this is the gig.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's just again everybody at the radio station there,

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Speaker 1: Can you believe that?

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Speaker 1: I saw him. They looked really good because a lot

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Speaker 1: And I got a lot of that. In fact, on

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Speaker 2: Boy, they're flying in five days early. They're going to

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Speaker 1: They looked like professional, like professional sorority and fraternity people,

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Speaker 1: But no, there's this team has literally gotten the attention

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Speaker 4: So, speaking of the IU team in the hardwood, what

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Speaker 2: He has a little reminiscent honestly of Saturday at Assembly Hall,

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Speaker 2: where you know you didn't obviously build the lead that

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Speaker 2: when it starts snowballing in an environment like that, I mean,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, Wilkerson had that dunk to tie

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Speaker 2: and again you're way too skilled offensively to have that,

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Speaker 2: and you know, just the harsh reality now with whatever,

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Speaker 2: you still got a good chunk of obviously big ten

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Speaker 2: I think a bigger picture question was Darren Devrees for

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Speaker 4: Jeremy Fears actually grew up in Joliet, Illinois, So thinking

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Speaker 4: Jeremiah Fears, is in the NBA with the Pelicans. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Not the best, know who that is, that's Braden Smith.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I thought he was a menace.

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Speaker 4: When it came to bring the ball up, I thought

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Speaker 1: Every time I hear anybody's from Jollyett, all I can

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Speaker 1: is they're on a mission from God. That's all I

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Speaker 2: I hate Chicago Nazis.

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Speaker 1: It's a fan morning show on a Wednesday. Pacers will

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Speaker 1: be back at home later on tonight. We'll talk about

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Speaker 1: that through the morning as well. But with all of

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Speaker 1: and the coaching carousel lighting up and starting in retrospect,

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Speaker 1: how do you feel about the Colts being in a

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Speaker 1: big hurry to maintain that they're not changing anything anywhere

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Speaker 2: Well, did they.

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Speaker 1: Miss the kearrosel a together? They just not even want

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Speaker 2: I don't think they want to be a part of it, frankly.

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously nine openings, you know, we'll see the

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Speaker 2: big one yesterday. Of course, that Mike Tomlin news. One

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Speaker 2: Kurtz Signetty to leave, but he was born in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: I think there's where some of this, you know, whatever.

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Speaker 2: If you look at some of the Vegas odds right now,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the Colts wanted any part of being

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Speaker 2: on that, you know whatever. Black Monday Train, however you

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Speaker 2: want to look at it here, and you know, we

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Speaker 2: played a little bit of Crisp Bowart audio. We can

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Speaker 2: continue to get into that. Yeah, I thought it was

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Speaker 2: interesting yesterday, James, you and I talked a little bit

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Speaker 2: after the show, like the commitment to Daniel Jones long term. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's a little unusual to see an NFL

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Speaker 2: they might they don't want to show their cards too

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Speaker 1: five and one oh seven five the Fan. Good morning everyone,

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Speaker 1: Wednesday morning. We are counting down to kickoff Monday Night's

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Speaker 1: But back to who's your football, It's got to be

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Speaker 6: It, James has to be. I mean, I'm ready for

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Speaker 4: Could you get to build a hype up even more

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Speaker 1: Kevin, the big group of Hoosiers, students, alumni, everybody else

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Speaker 1: All right, that's coming up on Monday night. As far

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Speaker 4: Michigan State fed flexed their muscles and show why they're

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Speaker 4: Honestly played in a weight class and they're just not

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Speaker 2: Kevin, Yeah, the problem is the resume just needs stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Michigan State started feeling it second half. One of

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Speaker 4: And honestly, that's the recipe that has been for a

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Speaker 1: Also tonight, Indiana Pacers. Did I get this right? They're

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Speaker 2: You guys catch the two minute report from yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I was just going to bring that up.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I did see that illegal stream was clearly the

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Speaker 2: Our message to Joe Missoula illegal stream, Joe, give.

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Speaker 2: I guess smart. How about our message maybe Rick Carlile's

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Speaker 1: I did not. I was in meetings all day yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it changes nothing. It did confirm as James said

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Speaker 2: the game winner Pacers, as you said, going for four

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Speaker 1: to watch that. Also, Lawrence north Over North Central by

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Speaker 2: So, he's got one year left in the deal and

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh technically controls those rights.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So to get Mike Tomlin to coach for your

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Speaker 1: What do you think it would cost to get Mike

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Speaker 4: Was it Sean Payton? Didn't he get traded? I'm not mistaken.

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Speaker 4: I think that was a trade. Actually, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Maybe back in the day. I mean, I'm going way

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Speaker 2: AFC North. Zach Taylor is the only head coach currently

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Speaker 1: You're the one guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So yeah, Colts will face a lot of new

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Speaker 2: Steve Bashati, you guys cut the Ravens owner yesterday.

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Speaker 1: It's great you found out about that Tomlin thing right

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Speaker 1: in the middle of his press It's a hilarious comments.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I guess he hadn't spoken in a few years,

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Speaker 4: so people were kind of like they didn't know what

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Speaker 4: to expect kind of thing, and he was pretty blunt. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: because I believe one of the best questions I got

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Speaker 4: actioned in that press conference was if Tyler Loup makes

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Speaker 4: the kick and you win that game against the Ravens

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Speaker 4: and you go to the playoffs, is John Harbaugh still

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Speaker 4: your head coach?

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Speaker 6: And he said yeah. For a week.

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Speaker 2: He did not mess around whatsoever.

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Speaker 6: Doesn't get too much more blunt than that.

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Speaker 2: Mark the Rick Carlisle message to Joe Missoula finding out

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Speaker 2: about the two mental report.

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Speaker 5: He'll get over it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wanted to sure if he was gonna take

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Speaker 4: the bait on that one with you.

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Speaker 5: Kevin.

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Speaker 4: I was thinking, boy, you were out there on a

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Speaker 4: little plank, and I was thinking, I'm not going out

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Speaker 4: there with you.

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Speaker 2: Usually on Tuesdays we're out there on planks. Quite often.

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Speaker 1: You're getting like a whole page of Rick Carlisle drops

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Speaker 1: these days.

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Speaker 3: I know I need to Kevin said, I should make

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Speaker 3: like a super montage.

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Speaker 2: I'm serious about that, Mark. I mean, hell, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: get a montage was about, you know, Jeff Rickard and

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Speaker 2: James Boyd and Kevin Bowen. The least you can do

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Speaker 2: is make one about Rick Carlisle. I'll get to work.

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Speaker 1: I need a Mark Dyton montage up looking like Superman.

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Speaker 2: I don't think those are allowed to air.

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Speaker 1: You end up looking like Superman. I'm sure all right,

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Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the world of sports. Coming up

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Speaker 1: at eight o'clock, we'll talk to Stephen Holder about the

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Speaker 1: Colts and they're they're placing the rest of the NFL

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Speaker 1: right now, and I'm looking forward to nine o'clock, Trent

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Speaker 1: Green will join us. Former NFL quarterback and more importantly,

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Speaker 1: former Hoosier, get his thoughts on what a crazy time

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Speaker 1: it is to be who's your alumni, especially a football alumni.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about it all in the hour and a

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Speaker 1: half two hours ahead right here at ninety three five

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Speaker 1: and one oh seven five the Fan. If you're listening

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Speaker 1: to a fan morning show on sports Radio ninety three

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Speaker 1: five and one oh seven, James Boyd, Kevin Bowen, Jeff Rickard,

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Speaker 1: Mark Dyden over there messing with people and using using

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Speaker 1: statements out of context for his own I don't know

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Speaker 1: what would you say, just your own humor, how would

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Speaker 1: you describe it?

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you're talking about. That's never happened

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Speaker 3: ever will be talking about.

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Speaker 1: Uh, We're coming up at eight o'clock. Stephen Holder is

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Speaker 1: going to stop by talk Colts and NFL with this

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Speaker 1: Trent Green at nine o'clock, we'll talk Indiana football. Did

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Speaker 1: you guys see in the NBA last night Jannis and

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Speaker 1: Tennekoupo booing back at the Milwaukee fans in the middle

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Speaker 1: of a game. Yeah? Has it soured? There? Is it

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Speaker 1: over there?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 4: Some additional context, I guess is because about a week ago,

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Speaker 4: our guy at the Athletic Sam Amick, spoke to Jannis

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Speaker 4: one on one and he quoted him verbatim saying, I

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Speaker 4: would never demand a trade. I would never ask for

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Speaker 4: a trade out of Milwaukee. So there's the backdrop of

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Speaker 4: all of this, because now I'm thinking, well, are you

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Speaker 4: just going to get to the point where you butt

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Speaker 4: heads with your fan base so much that the team.

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Speaker 6: Welcomes the trade.

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Speaker 4: Now, I will say this, I would never trade Janni's

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Speaker 4: I would figure it out some other way or whatever.

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Speaker 4: I would not want to be the GM that gets

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Speaker 4: rid of Jiannistecompo, just like I would want to be

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Speaker 4: the GM who got rid of Luca.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't do that.

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Speaker 6: But very weird.

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Speaker 4: Situation to try to justify booing your own fans back

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Speaker 4: after losing by thirty plus points.

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Speaker 6: The vibes are bad.

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Speaker 5: In Milwaukee right.

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Speaker 1: Now, which is crazy because how far away are there?

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Speaker 1: What four years now, we've removed from a championship.

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Speaker 6: One in twenty twenty one, So I'm.

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Speaker 1: Working on five years, working on five years, and it

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Speaker 1: just does You're right, though, it doesn't feel settled at

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Speaker 1: all up there, does it.

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 4: I mean, Miles is struggling, But again, it's not even

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Speaker 4: about the Miles angle of it. It's just your overall

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Speaker 4: team construction. I don't think anybody who watched that team

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Speaker 4: last year and knew who Myles Turner was, at least

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Speaker 4: in this market, expected them to make some grand leap.

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Speaker 4: It was Gianni's got to put the cape on, and

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Speaker 4: we'll hope that Worl'll be a tough out and maybe

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Speaker 4: have some injury luck and get through the next round

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Speaker 4: of the playoffs or whatever. But right now they're a

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Speaker 4: bad basketball team.

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Speaker 1: This is his quote after the game about being booed

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Speaker 1: by his hometown fans. It doesn't matter. I played basketball

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Speaker 1: for my teammates. They played basketball for myself and my family.

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Speaker 1: When people don't believe in me, I don't tend to

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Speaker 1: be with them. I tend to do what I'm here

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Speaker 1: to do. What I'm good at it won't change Homer away.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I've never been part of something like that before,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think it's fair. I don't. But everybody

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Speaker 1: has their opinion to do what they want to do.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell them what to do or

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Speaker 1: how they should act when they don't play hard, or

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Speaker 1: when we lose games, or when we're not where we're

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Speaker 1: supposed to be. I don't think anybody has the right

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Speaker 1: to tell me how I should act on a basketball court.

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Speaker 1: After I've been here thirteen years and I'm basically the

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Speaker 1: all time leader in everything unquote.

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Speaker 6: Last line was a bar.

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Speaker 2: I'm still laughing at the bucks thinking that trading for

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Speaker 2: Miles Turner was going to cure all.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that they did, truthfully. Have you gave

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Speaker 4: them truth CENTI, I don't think that they did.

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Speaker 2: Believe that they're just that desperate.

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Speaker 4: I think they were like, let's do whatever we can

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Speaker 4: to just show Yannis, we're trying hope, pray, yeah, beg Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The same question I threw out there for like, if

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Speaker 4: you were a Pacers fan in the same scenario with

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Speaker 4: Tyre's Halliburton, you're doing whatever it's possible to try to

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Speaker 4: keep him in Indianapolis. Now that's not the same because

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Speaker 4: obviously Tyre's wants to be here right now. But I'm

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Speaker 4: just saying in theory, that is what you're making the

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Speaker 4: trade or the wave and stretch provision with Damian Lillard.

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Speaker 4: That's what you're doing that for. It's to show the star. Hey,

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Speaker 4: we're trying, but you all know, I mean, they're not

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Speaker 4: idiots that my mosster has ever been an All Star.

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Speaker 4: He's not gonna be number two on a championship team.

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Speaker 4: So it's it's like I said, it's rough out there.

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Speaker 1: You feel terrible for the Milwaukee Bucks, though, don't you?

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Speaker 1: Doesn't it just pull it you?

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Speaker 6: Hey, somebody find this a cold man.

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Speaker 1: It's Fan Morning Show ninety three five one oh seven

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Speaker 1: five The Fan. I know that things the farther we

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Speaker 1: get away from the Chris Ballard press conference, things start

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Speaker 1: to settle down just a little bit. But now that

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Speaker 1: we are many days removed from that, Kevin Bowen, what

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Speaker 1: is the reality for the Indianapolis Coats as they wake

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Speaker 1: up this morning and they look at the coaching carousel

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Speaker 1: that's going on, and they start to get ready for

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Speaker 1: what they want to do. With their roster, who they're

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Speaker 1: going to keep, who they're gonna let go, how they're

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Speaker 1: going to rearrange the salarycap. Is it anything different and

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Speaker 1: more in focus today than it was five days ago?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think we did learn from Chris that obviously

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Speaker 2: he feels like the defense needs some retooling. Younger and faster,

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Speaker 2: the two words he used. James, you think that's more

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Speaker 2: D line or linebacker?

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Speaker 4: By the way, I might go linebacker.

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Speaker 6: You still need to upgrade your D line though.

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Speaker 2: And it could be both.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, about pick one or the other. I probably go linebacker,

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Speaker 4: just because that seemed like the weakest unit of that defense.

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Speaker 4: And that's considering how unimpactful sometimes the pass rush was

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Speaker 4: with the front four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably more D. I don't disagree linebacker needs some help,

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Speaker 2: but I'd probably go more D line just how big

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Speaker 2: pass rush matters. Frankly, that's a good argument. I thought

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Speaker 2: your game, you know you were at Carolina LA on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: I thought the ending of that game was so fitting,

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Speaker 2: and you know, it's the first playoff game of the weekend,

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Speaker 2: and here's Carolina getting a chance late and they go

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Speaker 2: out there for that final drive and the Rams front

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Speaker 2: just whips Carolina on every single plan in that final drive,

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Speaker 2: I think Bryce Young was flushed out of the pocket.

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Speaker 2: I believe the first two plays. I think he was

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Speaker 2: hit no chance on zero chance, and it was just

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Speaker 2: a reminder of what you know, such an effective rush

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Speaker 2: can do and slamming the door shut. So again, I

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Speaker 2: think that's probably the biggest ballad related focus for this

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Speaker 2: offseason is again getting younger and faster. Now how it looks.

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Speaker 2: You know, Jermaine Pratt's a free agent at linebacker. You've

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Speaker 2: got several free agents at defensive end. Quitty Pay I

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Speaker 2: think at one of the more underwhelming, you know, completions,

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Speaker 2: I guess to his rookie contract. There are times this

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Speaker 2: season that I almost forgot he was even on the team,

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Speaker 2: to be totally honest with you, So you know, again

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Speaker 2: you can have kind of a natural changing of the

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Speaker 2: guard there. But still, how much younger do you get? Like,

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Speaker 2: is Trey Hendrickson a free agent back on the market

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Speaker 2: that's not younger? But is that an upgrade? You know?

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Speaker 2: These are all sorts of discussions we can get into

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Speaker 2: here over the next couple of months before free agency

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Speaker 2: gets here.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's check the fan text line right now

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Speaker 1: two three nine, ten seventy. They're starting to roll in

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Speaker 1: this morning. Dana from Brownsburg says, do you think that

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Speaker 1: the Cults now regret committing to bringing back Shane? With

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Speaker 1: all these head coaches out there right now, is there

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Speaker 1: any kind of lingering like ooh, we should waited, James?

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Speaker 4: I don't think so, because I think if you were

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Speaker 4: going to make a change, it had to be the

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Speaker 4: general manager number one and a clear number one over

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Speaker 4: the head coach. But I will say Kevin Bowen got

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Speaker 4: a nice jump on that. Last week we were talking

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Speaker 4: to Chris Ballard. I believe it was the last question

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Speaker 4: of the press conference that you got to sneak one

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Speaker 4: in there, Kevin, if you want to enlighten the listeners.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had on the list to ask about John Harbaugh,

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Speaker 2: just because you know, he he's what Harball's probably a

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame coach, right, thanks?

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Speaker 1: Question about it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know when a hall of fame coach

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Speaker 2: clearly is available out there. I know this sounds weird,

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Speaker 2: but Ballard hires the head coach, right doesn't he? Yesn't

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Speaker 2: that kind of how the hierarchy works for the Colts.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not saying necessarily he's earned the right to

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Speaker 2: continue to do that, but in Carli Er Say Gordon's eyes,

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Speaker 2: he has. So if you're not getting it done as

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Speaker 2: an organization, then yeah, I just thought i'd throw the

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Speaker 2: question out there. Ballad basically said, really respect Sean Harball

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Speaker 2: as a coach, but Shane Stiken is their head coach.

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Speaker 2: And again, I certainly hear from people that realize, you know,

656
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Speaker 2: Ballard shouldn't have the right to answer that question, but

657
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Speaker 2: he does. That's the reality of where the Colts have

658
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: decided to shift their organization. So, Jeff, I guess I

659
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Speaker 2: answer the text. I would say it's two different questions.

660
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Speaker 2: Should they have regret? Yes? Do they have regret? I

661
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Speaker 2: would argue, no, Well, there we.

662
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Speaker 1: Are because one of the things that we might do

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Speaker 1: a little bit later on, I want to run down

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Speaker 1: the Shane Steiken if this or that and start taking

665
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Speaker 1: a look at you know, would you rather have him

666
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Speaker 1: over this person? Would you rather have him over that person?

667
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Speaker 1: But the Colts made their.

668
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Speaker 6: Decision to make that a segment. I'm curious about this.

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Speaker 1: No, I am too. Okay, I'm looking forward to it

670
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Speaker 1: because I think I like going through exercises like that

671
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Speaker 1: to see just how married people really are to the

672
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Speaker 1: choice that's been made. Because you got you offerm different options,

673
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden they go, oh, I mean that

674
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Speaker 1: could have been possible. That could have been possible. So

675
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Speaker 1: we can do some of that in the meantime. Going

676
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Speaker 1: back to the text line of two three nine ten

677
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Speaker 1: seventy uh, Tom says, speaking of the Colts draft free agency,

678
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Speaker 1: do you think Ballard may just draft all defensive players, Kevin, Well.

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Speaker 2: If you're any a younger, obviously, the draft would be

680
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Speaker 2: the route to go. Again, you don't have your first

681
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Speaker 2: round pick, and then the question becomes how quickly can

682
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Speaker 2: they impact and how will and is Luanna Romo to

683
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Speaker 2: play some of these guys? So yes, I would assume

684
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Speaker 2: you know, a good amount of their you know, draft

685
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Speaker 2: capital will go there. By the way, James, I have

686
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Speaker 2: no idea if this happened or not, and I don't

687
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Speaker 2: even know. Well, I guess I care a little bit

688
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Speaker 2: because I'm asking it. Did Alex Pears end up getting

689
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Speaker 2: fined for I say, bumping for you know, the mirage

690
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Speaker 2: of hitting the official.

691
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Speaker 4: I'm not sure about that. I can reach out and

692
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Speaker 4: try to check and see, you're usually the fine guy.

693
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Speaker 2: That's why I asked, I saw, Yeah, I saw you

694
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Speaker 2: had a couple of tweets from the Texans game in

695
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Speaker 2: regards to guys that got fined.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But the reason is, I want to say finds of

698
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Speaker 4: like the field of play, when it comes to a

699
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Speaker 4: face mask or a hip drop tackle or unnecessary roughness

700
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Speaker 4: something like that is usually what's listed publicly and in

701
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Speaker 4: the other finds or what are listed or what are

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Speaker 4: disclosed privately, if that makes sense. For example, when Puka

703
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Speaker 4: Nakua criticize the referees, that wasn't listed on They have

704
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Speaker 4: a website. Actually, you can go to where they list

705
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Speaker 4: the fines every I believe it's every Saturday at four

706
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Speaker 4: pm Eastern time from the previous week. Those finds are

707
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Speaker 4: never listed there, Like if you have a uniform find

708
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Speaker 4: for example, if you wore the wrong colored cleats, those

709
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Speaker 4: aren't listed there. So I'm actually not curious about that,

710
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Speaker 4: or actually I am curious about that. But I will

711
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Speaker 4: say I thought you were gonna go here, Kevin with

712
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Speaker 4: the Forrest Buckner rewarding Alec Peirice with an ap watch.

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Speaker 4: I'd even say that is it Outamar, But get is.

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Speaker 5: I mean.

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Speaker 6: The watch guy. You're the guy. Keep you the watch guy.

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Speaker 2: My wrist has been naked for a lot longer than

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Speaker 2: Mark Dyton was after that.

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Speaker 6: You know their Sanders on the wake Up.

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Speaker 2: That's that's a Jake Quarry question, right, Yeah, he's mister Swiss.

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Speaker 2: Watch would be a Jake cologne for Jake Quarry.

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Speaker 1: I yeah.

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Speaker 2: I remember my dad when he was a teacher back

723
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Speaker 2: in the day, there was some watch in the Lost

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Speaker 2: and Found for like six months. He brought it home

725
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Speaker 2: for me and it was like, hey, do you want this?

726
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Speaker 2: And I think I wore it for a week and

727
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Speaker 2: that's the only time I wanted to watch.

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Speaker 1: That was it. You're not a watch guy at all.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm an Apple watch guy. Just because of the

730
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Speaker 4: workouts and.

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Speaker 1: Left charge this morning, I feel naked.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well if I feel naked about the watch.

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Speaker 4: But it was really kind of cool to see Forest

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Speaker 4: Buckner be a man of his word because he told

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Speaker 4: us last year Kevin that hey, if Alec Pierce Clear's

736
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Speaker 4: a thousand yards, I'll buy him ap And last year

737
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Speaker 4: he was at age twenty four, told us in his

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Speaker 4: exit interview, Hey, my teammate fled just.

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Speaker 6: Short but I'll keep it open this year.

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Speaker 4: Last game of the season, Alex clears a thousand yards,

741
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Speaker 4: gets to a thousand and three and gets a very

742
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Speaker 4: expensive watch. And someone on Twitter, one of my followers,

743
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Speaker 4: was explaining all of it to me and he told me, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know, the Forest Buckner didn't cheap out on him.

745
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Speaker 4: And I was like, are there cheap aps out there?

746
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Speaker 4: Are there cheap watches of this caliber? And he was like, well,

747
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Speaker 4: it all kind of just depends, and you know, the

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Speaker 4: resale market. I guess the watch that is pictured that

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Speaker 4: the Forest Buckner shared.

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Speaker 6: You have to buy it.

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Speaker 4: On the secondary market because of the wait list involved

752
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Speaker 4: with it. You can't just walk into the store and

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Speaker 4: buy it, even if you are rich to Forest Buckner.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it seems like this was at least day

755
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Speaker 4: twenty thousand dollars watch ice.

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Speaker 1: It's good. It's good to be more to my wide

757
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Speaker 1: receiver for the cults right there.

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Speaker 5: I like that, you know. I think the.

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Speaker 1: Biggest question people have been asking me though, too, is

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Speaker 1: have we seen the last of Michael Pittman in a

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Speaker 1: cults jersey? Despite all the great contributions he's made, and

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Speaker 1: he's been a good teammate, and he's been a good

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Speaker 1: player and good citizen. Heres is it time to part

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Speaker 1: ways with that contract? Not so much the player, but

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Speaker 1: the contract.

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Speaker 4: Y'all look at this through two lenses and feel free

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Speaker 4: to chime in you all. One of them is clearly

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Speaker 4: the contract. I believe next year he is scheduled to

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Speaker 4: have a twenty nine million dollar cap hit. No one's

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Speaker 4: going to pay that for a guy who isn't named

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Speaker 4: Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, etc. But what I think of

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Speaker 4: on the flip side is if you cut them, I

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Speaker 4: believe they would save about twenty four million dollars in

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Speaker 4: cap space only have to pay about five million dollars

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Speaker 4: of that twenty nine million. But even then, would Michael

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Speaker 4: Pittman Junior welcome a change of scenery? I know he

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Speaker 4: loves Indianapolis. He's a farm here, for crying out loud.

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Speaker 4: I mean, when you built a pump farm somewhere, you

779
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Speaker 4: probably want to stay. But if he gets if it

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Speaker 4: gets to a point where they're like, we want to

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Speaker 4: restructure your contract, could he just say no and hit

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Speaker 4: the open market.

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Speaker 6: Because it's not like he's damaged goods.

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Speaker 4: It's just that people don't want to pay that price

785
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Speaker 4: for him, but he would still I think have a

786
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Speaker 4: very strong market to go somewhere and be a contributor

787
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Speaker 4: right away with the team that probably has more stability

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Speaker 4: a quarterback, a better playoff resume, whatever as of the

789
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Speaker 4: last couple of years, whereas with the Colts you're banking

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Speaker 4: on Okay, I'm gonna run it back in the system

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Speaker 4: with a quarterback who currently can't walk right.

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Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, I would. I'm probably more in the camp

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Speaker 2: of a Pittman returning on a cap pit that's not

794
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Speaker 2: twenty nine million. That's probably where it's a restructure. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's probably where I kind of side with it.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: Again, the Ady Mitchell trade, I think kind of lessened

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Speaker 2: the idea of, oh wow, Pittman could be wearing a

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Speaker 2: different uniform next year. Oh wow, Alex Pierce could be

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Speaker 2: wearing a different uniform next year. You really don't have

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Speaker 2: a lot of and I get Ashton Dolan's been a

802
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 2: really sound player for you, but still I think it's

803
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Speaker 2: too much to ask for Ashton Dulan all of a

804
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Speaker 2: sudden it be a you know, fifty sixty snap guys

805
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Speaker 2: and outside wide out, you know, for seventeen weeks out

806
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Speaker 2: of the year, and again without a first round pick.

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Speaker 2: There's only so much from a resource standpoint you can do.

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Speaker 2: You know, in an ideal world, you just you know,

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Speaker 2: everybody gets every position group gets a first round pick. Well,

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Speaker 2: I mean that's just not reality here. So yeah, Pittman

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Speaker 2: back on a less certain Now, if it's either or,

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Speaker 2: let me be very clear, it's Pierce. I mean, there's

813
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Speaker 2: no debate for me whatsoever. Again, Pierce has the unique trait.

814
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Speaker 2: It's easier to find Michael Pittman juniors than it is

815
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Speaker 2: to find out Pierce's That's the easiest way I can

816
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Speaker 2: put it. In an NFL of twenty twenty five twenty

817
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Speaker 2: twenty six defenses, I would say the universal number one

818
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: priority for defenses in the NFL over the last few

819
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Speaker 2: years is we will do anything and everything not to

820
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Speaker 2: allow big plays. You have to grind out ten twelve

821
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Speaker 2: play drives on us. And yet Pierce has shown the

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Speaker 2: ability to consistently provide big plays, and that's unique, and

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Speaker 2: Pittman doesn't do that. Pittman does a lot of nice things,

824
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Speaker 2: but he doesn't do that. So again, if it's either or,

825
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 2: it's definitely Pierce. But if Pittman walks, then all of

826
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Speaker 2: a sudden, wide receiver starts to climb on that need list.

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Speaker 2: And I don't want to get into too much on this,

828
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Speaker 2: but like you know, Pierce has had a little bit

829
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Speaker 2: of a concussion history. You know, he's been very durable

830
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Speaker 2: really outside of that. But still you're just putting a

831
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Speaker 2: lot on the availability for him for Josh Downs, who's

832
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Speaker 2: obviously much more of a slot wide out.

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Speaker 1: Fan Morning Show ninety three five one oh seventy five

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Speaker 1: The Fan, James Boyd, Kevin Bowen, Mark didyke Than, I'm

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Speaker 1: jeff Rickard kJ from Brownsberg. Wants to know, getting younger

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Speaker 1: is all good, but can this staff develop anyone? We've

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Speaker 1: had youth, but these guys don't seem to amount and

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Speaker 1: reach their potential. Is that a fair statement or is

839
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Speaker 1: it a little bit of a mixed bag?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's mostly a fair statement. I do

841
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: think Nick Cross has had some nice development here, but

842
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Speaker 2: in terms of the front I would argue more of

843
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 2: the issue has been you haven't drafted the right guys.

844
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Speaker 2: Name me a Colts player that has moved on from

845
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Speaker 2: here and had success in the ballot.

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Speaker 1: Ara top my head. I can't come up here rafted

847
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Speaker 1: player somebody out there.

848
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Speaker 2: And again we're talking about the early picks, the the

849
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Speaker 2: you know, Quincy Wilson's, Terrell Basham's been Bannaghu's Komoko tres

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Speaker 2: Dio dang. But like you know, I guess Malik Hooker.

851
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Speaker 2: Maybe I was caught on with Dallas a little bit here, but.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, or maybe some people. And then like I think,

853
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 6: enough guys, you count Philip Dorsett, well.

854
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: Moved on like he was, he was a valid draft pick. Again,

855
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Speaker 2: I'm talking about, you know, defensive guys.

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Speaker 4: I just every time I think of a player, it's

857
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Speaker 4: either they were offense and they were a late pick.

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Speaker 2: Yes, like Jerry Hughes for example. You know polling era

859
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Speaker 2: went on and had great success.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So to me, I put it more on the misidentification

862
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 2: of the draft process than I do. Necessarily. They've had

863
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: gobs of defensive line coaches. They've had several defensive coordinators

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Speaker 2: that I don't think has been as much of the

865
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Speaker 2: issue as it is just simply identifying the right talent

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Speaker 2: when it comes to the draft.

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Speaker 4: I am curious what direction they go in for a

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Speaker 4: defensive line coach. Would they did back into the college ranks,

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Speaker 4: would they stay in the NFL ranks?

870
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 6: What do they want? What does Leuen Rumo want? And

871
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 6: a guy who's going to lead that unit? Because I

872
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 6: do think they really since they let Nate Ali go.

873
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 4: Kevin, I don't think this defensive line has really performed

874
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 4: to the level that they should have. And so looking

875
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 4: back at it, that might have been one of the

876
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 4: coaches you let get away.

877
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go back and look at some of those

878
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: those first two picks in each draft. If you go

879
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: back to twenty seventeen, it was Malie Hooker and Quincy Wilson.

880
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 1: In twenty eighteen, it was Quentin Nelson and Darius Leonard.

881
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: I think that we all agree he hit on that.

882
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: And then Braden Smith in the third round. That was

883
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: a heck of a draft for him. That included Kimiko

884
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: ture Taekwon Lewis, Nahim Hines.

885
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 2: That was not a bad eighteen plenty of pits. Franklin

886
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 2: was there twenty would be the other one, you know,

887
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: with Pittman and Taylor.

888
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 6: Here's a name, Kevin, Bobby o'careke.

889
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Bobby would probably be the one. Yeah, Yeah,

890
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: that is probably the one that you could say would

891
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: fall into that category.

892
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: Scene still play the reason they moved on from him.

893
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 6: At the time, it was a reasonable decision because you.

894
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 4: Thought you had at Ballards drafted a franchise linebacker in

895
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 4: Shaquille Leonard, and obviously no one could have predicted that

896
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 4: the back injuries and the nerve issues and he would

897
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 4: be retired at this point.

898
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 2: And I thought he j Speed was a nice player.

899
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 4: You know, they had kind of a log jam, and

900
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 4: it got to the point where they already paid a

901
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 4: linebacker big money. Right, he's drafted, and so to we'll

902
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 4: we pay another one. But yeah, that is a good

903
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 4: pull from the listeners.

904
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then of course recently it's been Anthony Richardson, Juju, Brent,

905
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: Josh Downs and then twenty four. I'm trying to think

906
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: twenty four. Who was the first round pick in twenty four?

907
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 2: A lot too?

908
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: I think it was a lot too. But point being

909
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: is to answer the question, have they developed properly the

910
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: guys that they've brought up.

911
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: I mean, again, the answer is no on that end,

912
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 2: James anything. Taylor Tannembaum said yesterday with us we kind

913
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: of got the Miami Hurricane side of it when she

914
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 2: joined us. Trent Green by the way, coming up nine

915
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: o'clock today, former IU quarterback Mark great work in getting that,

916
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 2: But anything from the Miami side of it that Taylor

917
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: brought up yesterday with us to kind of caught your ears.

918
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 4: I want to know if we can have like the

919
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 4: IU Connor Stallion's version, somehow make it so Michael Irvin

920
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 4: isn't allowed to come to the game. How is he

921
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 4: worth a touchdown on the sideline just with his craziness.

922
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 4: I know that that works on the sideline, But in

923
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 4: all seriously, I think what she said about this being

924
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 4: perhaps the best defensive front that IU is going to

925
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 4: face will be a factor. The best pressure rate they're

926
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 4: probably going to face is a factor. You just haven't

927
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 4: seen this level of dudes quite frankly the trenches and

928
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 4: going back to the point that I've made since this

929
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 4: matchup arrived on the schedule is can you avoid the

930
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 4: disastrous plays that Rubin Baying and company truly tend.

931
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 6: To make you make?

932
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 4: And they've done it so far throughout every stage of

933
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 4: this run. Can you avoid the strips that can you

934
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 4: avoid the oh he got rushed in his arm? Guy

935
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 4: hit and he threw a pick. Can you avoid those

936
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 4: plays because that's what they're known for, And I think

937
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 4: those plays can flip a game and give them an

938
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 4: advantage where they're still, in my opinion, a very clear underdog.

939
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

940
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: I think that was a really good point that she made,

941
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: And again, I think it's a different test for Indiana

942
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 2: coming up Monday than maybe they have already clearly answered

943
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,479
Speaker 2: throughout so much of this. The other thing I would

944
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 2: add to is this, I think Indiana's biggest strength is

945
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 2: arguably Miami's biggest weakness. I think Miami's biggest weakness is

946
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 2: their discipline, and I think Indiana's biggest strength is their discipline.

947
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 2: And if you just want to summarize it in penalties,

948
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 2: that I think goes a long way old. Miss had

949
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 2: a great chance to win that football game. I think

950
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 2: a big reason why was the undisciplined nature to the

951
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: hur games. I think it was ten was the final

952
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: total on the penalty count and a lot of just

953
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 2: post snap, pre snap penalties, just a lot again, more

954
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: in the discipline category. And you look at the Ohio

955
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 2: State game when Miami upset the Buckeyes, and really, I

956
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 2: thought for the most part controlled that game. They were not.

957
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 2: They didn't have a single penalty in that game, which

958
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 2: is just kind of crazy, like to think about. You

959
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: go from zero one week to ten the next and

960
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 2: again that has been I would say one of Indiana's

961
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 2: most constant aspects to their football team this season. It's

962
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: just they don't make the sins. They don't make the

963
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 2: self inflicted stuff there. So I think that will be

964
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 2: a big, big story life. Miami starts creeping up six

965
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 2: seven penalties obviously, if the turnovers, if they don't win

966
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 2: that battle, then this will be a coronation, you know,

967
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 2: by the start of the fourth quarter.

968
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 1: Oh, let's go. I'm ready to if they end this thing.

969
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: I'm looking for a pick six on the very first

970
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: play James, That's all I want for Indiana, pick six

971
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: on the first playoff.

972
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 4: It looks like D'Angelo Ponds has his own pond now, yeah,

973
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 4: they named one after him.

974
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 6: So shut out to the IU fan bands for getting

975
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 6: head done.

976
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: All right, Coming up in a minute, Steven Holder, we'll

977
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: talk colts with us as we continue to take some

978
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 1: of your comments over the air and on the line

979
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: at the fan text line two three nine ten seventy.

980
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: We'll do it all as we continue next on ninety

981
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Speaker 1: three five and one oh seven five The Fan. As

982
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: you were listening to.

983
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 7: The Fan Morning show on Sports Radio ninety three to

984
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 7: five and one oh seven five.

985
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: The Fan, Mark, are you s adjusting by playing that

986
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 1: spot that there might be multiple reasons for us to

987
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: speak to our next cuss Steven Holder?

988
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,919
Speaker 3: Maybe a couple. I'm sure it's all to talk about

989
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 3: Notre Dame getting waxed by Miami last night.

990
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: That's probably what it is. Stephen Holder joins us now

991
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: in the lock or Kevin out line today, I'm just

992
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 1: gonna let Kevin and hold her talk about basketball last night.

993
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: I'll give you that on tree to start with my man.

994
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm sure Steven Holder really want to talk

995
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 2: about the Miami basketball team right now, Mark, you can

996
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 2: kiss my ass.

997
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 5: That was a listen. If that's a foreshadowing, all take it.

998
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 5: But I mean listen. I actually asked Kevin one time,

999
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 5: are you a bigger Notre Dame basketball fan or a

1000
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,919
Speaker 5: football fan? And I think you lean maybe a little

1001
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 5: bit towards basketball, so a little bit for him. Yeah,

1002
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 5: that's fair sadly sick.

1003
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 2: Oh, sadly. Yeah, Steven, congrats your hurricanes. I'm sure you

1004
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: are locked into all forty minutes in ESPNU like I was.

1005
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:58,959
Speaker 2: That is very talented, Miami.

1006
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 5: Let me tell you.

1007
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: I'm just you know what I was looking for?

1008
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 5: It It was it was on KR and you That's

1009
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 5: what it was, all right?

1010
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: You do remember learning it doesn't coach there anymore?

1011
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 5: Right? You do know that that's true. That is true.

1012
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: Stephen Holder joining us on the payless Lickers hotline right now.

1013
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: So I'll ask you the question I was asking the

1014
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: guys just a moment ago, and all the things that

1015
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: we have seen happen throughout the National Football League with

1016
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: coaching vacancies and guys stepping down and guys being relieved

1017
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: of their duties since the Colts announced that they were

1018
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: going to keep everything in place and run it back,

1019
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: anything hit your your your radar, like, oh, that would

1020
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: have been interesting.

1021
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I guess the thing that got my

1022
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 5: attention to the most, I would say is Mike Tomlin.

1023
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 5: Now was it stunning? No? But but I think you

1024
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 5: know they they when they made the playoffs, you did wonder, okay,

1025
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 5: are they going to let it slide this time? You know,

1026
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 5: is he going to remain in charge? Uh? I don't know.

1027
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 5: I didn't know what to really expect. I don't know

1028
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 5: that anyone knew what to really expect. But but that

1029
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 5: definitely was I think that's that's definitely the biggest news,

1030
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 5: even though there's been all the speculation and what have you.

1031
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, he's a he's a legend, man.

1032
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, in this day and age to

1033
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 5: last as long as he has uh in a business

1034
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 5: this falla toll. I mean, that's that's pretty remarkable.

1035
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 4: So again we have Stephen Holder here on the payoffs

1036
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 4: liquers hotline, fraudulent graduate of Miami University.

1037
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 6: Man, that was, dude, I haven't seen.

1038
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 4: I haven't seen a Miami had and I didn't see

1039
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 4: it until like the second round of the Cost of

1040
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 4: Ball playoffs.

1041
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: I'll have you know.

1042
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 6: But no, you and you actually are you going to

1043
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 6: the game? I think we talked about this.

1044
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 5: Are you going? I am going? Actually? Yes, I am going. Yeah,

1045
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 5: it took him.

1046
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: Doing let me tell you, but did you have to

1047
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: did you have to go to the second mortgage? Where

1048
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: how that go down?

1049
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 5: No? So the bills are paid, so we're good. I

1050
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 5: just I'll just say that it does help to know

1051
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 5: people sometimes, and this is one of those times. I mean,

1052
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 5: I rarely ever call in a favor, but I called

1053
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 5: in a favor and I'm going to the game. Let's

1054
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 5: put it that way.

1055
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 4: Nice what you know what, You're gonna be that friend

1056
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 4: and I need a favor from you know, about ten

1057
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 4: fifteen years from now, if we if.

1058
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: We buy you a Kurt Signetti pull over, would you

1059
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: wear that?

1060
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 5: I mean, I think Kurt Signetti is a really nice guy.

1061
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 5: He seems like a great coach.

1062
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 2: I'll be honest with You'd be taking off your belt

1063
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 2: and slapping that shirt with it. Do you have a

1064
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 2: bet with anybody not wearing that in a million years?

1065
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 4: No? Do you have a bet with anybody in the

1066
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 4: market Steven Arnold.

1067
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 3: Over ten or.

1068
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 5: No? Not really, coward, No, I don't actually yeah, I

1069
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 5: don't know if you're aware of this, but Kevin went

1070
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 5: to IU teaches there. I've heard this.

1071
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 4: I am all right anyway, this is because a weird

1072
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 4: interview back to the real football involving Indianapolis Colts and

1073
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 4: the team you cover. When you heard Chris Ballard say

1074
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 4: the number one question that Carly ursa Gordon wanted to

1075
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 4: ask him and wanted to find out. I'd answer for was,

1076
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 4: do you still have your juju shimmer and confidence?

1077
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 5: Your reaction was, what, Well, my reaction was, I need

1078
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 5: somebody to define that. I don't know exactly what that means,

1079
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 5: but I think I know what she meant. But I

1080
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 5: think it was an interesting question because I guess my

1081
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 5: thing is, like, why didn't she doubt that? Like, I mean,

1082
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 5: I guess my point is like, if you like, does

1083
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 5: he need a bad season to be awoken or something?

1084
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 5: You know what I mean? Like, I didn't understand necessarily

1085
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 5: the logic there, but but I don't know. I guess

1086
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 5: I understand that what it says, I guess is that

1087
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 5: she thinks that there is that he still has this ability,

1088
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 5: this magic to find you know, to find talent and

1089
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 5: so forth. I guess I don't know. But it has

1090
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 5: been a long time, you know. I mean, I think

1091
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 5: you know, the best that twenty eighteen draft class, for example,

1092
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 5: that we always talk about. I mean, I think it's

1093
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 5: the high point of Chris Ballerd. There's no question about it. Right,

1094
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 5: That is, for me, the best draft class in franchise

1095
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 5: history probably and you know it is it was a

1096
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 5: long time ago, right, I mean, can can he be

1097
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 5: that guy again? Right? Can he reach back and find

1098
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 5: that in him again? Maybe that's what she meant, and

1099
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 5: I guess we'll find out pretty soon.

1100
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 2: Steven Hoolder with us here from ESPN. Stephen just kind

1101
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 2: of rough sketch on the offseason. I view kind of

1102
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones probably won Alec Pierce one a if you will.

1103
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 2: Did you guess two to three year deal for Jones

1104
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,280
Speaker 2: franchise tag for Pierce?

1105
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 5: Hmm, It's really tricky, I'm Jones. I just I don't

1106
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 5: know what's the best way to approach that. I've thought

1107
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 5: about this a lot, and I think if you I

1108
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 5: think the multi year deal is actually it is probably

1109
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 5: more tricky, you know because.

1110
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 2: The one the only the only reason I say that

1111
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 2: is because Chris didn't use the phrase long term.

1112
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, I asked him that exactly. My question to him

1113
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 5: was like, are you thinking about Daniel Jones in the

1114
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,439
Speaker 5: long term, am sorry, in the short term or long term?

1115
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 5: And he said both And and that actually reflects what

1116
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 5: what we have heard from Shane Stikeen as well. I mean,

1117
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 5: I think when you talk to Shane Stikeen about Daniel

1118
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 5: Jones to me, I think he sees him as as

1119
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 5: as a guy who can be his franchise quarterback. You know,

1120
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 5: does that mean through three years? Does that mean five years?

1121
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know, but I mean I do

1122
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 5: think more than like one year, you know, So I

1123
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 5: think I leaned towards them trying to do a multi year,

1124
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 5: a multi year deal there. I think if you're Daniel Jones,

1125
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 5: you probably prefer that, right, I don't know, I mean,

1126
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 5: because I think you worry about maybe not having your

1127
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 5: fastball right away coming off in Achilles, and maybe being

1128
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 5: judged based on that performance in twenty twenty six if

1129
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 5: it's not you know, elite as maybe he had been

1130
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 5: playing last year. So maybe for him a multi year

1131
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 5: deal makes more sense. But then the question becomes what

1132
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 5: does that look like, and what's the right amount and

1133
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 5: what is fair and what's what protects the team? That's

1134
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 5: I think that's really hard. I think it's a very

1135
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 5: difficult conversation to reach a consensus on. So I have

1136
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 5: no idea what it's going to look like. I think

1137
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 5: it's going to be trickier than people maybe think. The

1138
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 5: reason I think it happens is because you have two

1139
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 5: motivated parties that really want to keep the sides together,

1140
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 5: But that doesn't mean it's going to be easy to

1141
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 5: actually accomplish.

1142
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: Steven, what do you think is a realistic draft pick package,

1143
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: not even package, but a draft pick the Cults could

1144
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: get back if Anthony Richardson were to become available.

1145
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 5: Hm, you know, I that's a tricky one too. I

1146
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 5: think you know he's not a bona fide starting quarterback

1147
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 5: because you know he has a mixed record or mixed

1148
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 5: track record, But there's there's definitely upside at his age

1149
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 5: and he's twenty three, I mean jesus, I mean, like

1150
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 5: the guys coming out of college this year in some

1151
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 5: cases are that old or older. So there's a lot

1152
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 5: of upside potentially, But then the injury history, so man,

1153
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 5: it's it's a really complicated thing. I don't think if

1154
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 5: you're a team out there, I don't think you're giving

1155
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 5: up a really early draft pick because you're not seeing

1156
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 5: him as an automatic answer for your team, right. I

1157
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 5: think you're bringing him in to compete and to possibly

1158
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 5: be a guy for your team. I don't think that

1159
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 5: is merely a slam dunk. So I don't know I

1160
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 5: think it's a mid round pick of some kind, and

1161
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 5: if there are multiple suitors, it goes a little higher

1162
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 5: to maybe you know, maybe it becomes a third or

1163
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 5: something like that. But I think you're probably in the

1164
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 5: fourth round range. Just complete guessworks. But that's kind of

1165
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 5: where I think right now.

1166
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 4: Holder another one for me when you look at what

1167
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 4: they have to do in the defensive secondary, and I

1168
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 4: know it's not a huge deal, but how much do

1169
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:54,280
Speaker 4: you think the Travarious Ward potential retirement decision could affect

1170
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 4: this group moving forward?

1171
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 5: I mean it's a big effect, There's no question about it.

1172
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 5: I mean, I think the one thing that helps them

1173
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 5: is they do have Justin Walley coming back from injury.

1174
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 5: I don't know where they see him in terms of

1175
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 5: the long term. Does he is he an outside corner?

1176
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 5: Is he more of a slot option. I'm not sure,

1177
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 5: but he definitely someone who's going to play and should play.

1178
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 5: I mean, he had a great training camp. I thought

1179
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 5: they they really really lost something when they lost him

1180
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 5: in training camp last year. But there's no question. I

1181
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 5: mean they when they made the Sauce Gardner trade, I mean,

1182
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 5: the idea was we will we will have two legitimate

1183
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 5: number one quality cornerbacks. If you then lose one, that

1184
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 5: it changes the dynamics of that defense. But I think

1185
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 5: they have enough to work with in the secondary. They

1186
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 5: would have to add make I think a notable addition

1187
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,439
Speaker 5: that corner if he if he retires, that is true.

1188
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 5: But I like the composition of the secondary either way,

1189
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 5: certainly more than the front seven. I mean, they got

1190
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 5: to pour a lot of resources and time and effort

1191
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 5: into that front seven. If it's me, I think you

1192
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 5: are aggressive in retooling that front seven. That's what I

1193
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 5: think they have to be.

1194
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 2: Personally, Steven Holderg in ESPN with a heer Steven. I

1195
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 2: will end with this, and in regards to your Hurricanes,

1196
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 2: the item of this game you are most confident in

1197
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 2: from a Miami point of view, as.

1198
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 5: What I think that they can play. They can play

1199
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 5: stout at the line of scrimmage on both sides, and

1200
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 5: I think particularly I've talked a lot about this on

1201
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 5: this station this week. I mean, I think their their

1202
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 5: power run game is so good and I think it's

1203
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 5: the meal ticket here if they can pull it off.

1204
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 5: I mean, we'll see how Indiana hold up against it.

1205
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 5: But I mean, look what they did against Ohio State.

1206
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 5: Ohio State, Okay, they went out there and they just

1207
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 5: ran the ball down their throat at will. And I

1208
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 5: think that if they can accomplish that in this game,

1209
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 5: they went that was their bread and butter. If they

1210
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 5: can do that in this game, I think it will

1211
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 5: be to the same degree. But if they can do

1212
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 5: that successfully, that evens the playing field. You keep that

1213
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 5: that offensive machine off the field, that Heisman Trophy winning

1214
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:22,439
Speaker 5: quarterback off the field, and you give yourself an upper

1215
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 5: hand and advantage that, you know, in a game where

1216
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 5: maybe they don't have as many advantages because Indiana doesn't

1217
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 5: have a lot of weaknesses. So anyway, that is what

1218
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 5: I think they can lean into. And that's not a

1219
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 5: bad area to have, you know, some advantages all.

1220
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: Right for those that are going to Miami for the

1221
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,959
Speaker 1: first time. What's the one thing who's your fans headed

1222
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: to Miami need to at least try and do or

1223
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: experience while they're down there.

1224
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 5: Hmm.

1225
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 6: Make sure it's safety these air waves.

1226
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 5: Right exactly right, Let's see what you know what, I

1227
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 5: definitely think I definitely think you gotta everybody says, you know,

1228
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 5: South Beach on it. I do think like, yeah, do that,

1229
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 5: that's for sure. If you can, it's all that's great.

1230
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 5: But it's for me. It's food, man, it's food, like

1231
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 5: get yourself. Like some bodify either Cuban food, Caribbean food,

1232
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 5: like I mean Jamaican, Haitian. I mean my family is

1233
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 5: from Trinidad. Like that's that is South Florida for me, right,

1234
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 5: South Florida is not like just the beach. For me,

1235
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 5: it's like the food. And when you talk about culture,

1236
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 5: you're talking about food. That's that's the way I see it.

1237
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 5: So pick a pick a Caribbean country and go get

1238
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 5: some of that food. Man, your life.

1239
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 1: We're looking forward to seeing a two second is so

1240
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: close up of dejected, crying Stephen Holder in the fourth

1241
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: quarter on Monday night. That's what we're looking for.

1242
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know, man, we'll see. I hope that

1243
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 5: will not be the case.

1244
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 6: And keep your belt on, man till Michael Irvan keep

1245
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 6: his belt on too.

1246
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 5: Lookten, I hope very much that Michael Irvin is loosening his.

1247
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: Travel safe, travel safe, all right, we'll talk to you soon.

1248
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 2: Have fun, Steven.

1249
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: Could you imagine like Indiana does something to salt it

1250
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: away with like six and a half minutes to go,

1251
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: and they're showing crowd shots and there's crying Stephen Holder

1252
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: in the in the thirty first row somewhere over there.

1253
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 4: You're trying to figure out how he got out of

1254
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 4: this without making a bet with anybody.

1255
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 6: Here in Indiana?

1256
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: Or is he just not telling us?

1257
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 4: I mean, Kaitlyn Jackson, we got to get you, you know,

1258
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 4: to get some pinstripes.

1259
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 6: Ordered in his size.

1260
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 2: I wonder Fredie Wayne Kaitlyn Jackson maybe have a friendly wager.

1261
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 2: What's Miami thrown out there at the coin toss? They

1262
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 2: threw some heat out there in the Fiesta Bols, Ray

1263
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 2: Lewis and Edrin James.

1264
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, you can take your pick.

1265
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to go Irvin or is

1266
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 2: Irvan not allowed on the field.

1267
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. You worry about what Jah.

1268
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 4: Say for the sideline. Maybe you go Andre Johnson. I

1269
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,439
Speaker 4: don't know another Miami great.

1270
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 2: You want to go Frank RD and read Devin Hester.

1271
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, Devin Hester is a good one man.

1272
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 2: Miami's got some sideline heat. They got some sideline heat.

1273
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 2: I don't know if they've got on the field heat

1274
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 2: enough of it? About ed reed to be honest with you.

1275
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 2: After Ed Reed, I will say this Mark about Devin Hester.

1276
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 4: He could have a busy weekend, you know, with the

1277
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 4: Bears on Sunday night and then the nash Chaps Monday night.

1278
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 2: Mark, what are we looking at tempts for Sunday's kickoff?

1279
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 3: All I've heard is cold as hell. They said like

1280
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 3: eight degrees with wind chill and everything like that.

1281
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 2: I wish yeah, right, I mean cold and wind benefits

1282
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 2: you guys. Yeah, I would say so.

1283
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 3: Stafford's obviously played at Soldier Field quite a bit with

1284
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 3: his time in the Lions. But a lot of those

1285
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 3: La boys, I don't know. I'm still concerned though DeVante

1286
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 3: Adams pookin Naka. They are no joke. Kien Williams is

1287
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 3: very good. So they are the most complete team that

1288
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 3: is probably left in the playoffs as far as the

1289
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 3: NFC is concerned.

1290
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 2: So it should be a tough test.

1291
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: But so you're like, you're not a believer in the

1292
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks.

1293
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 2: I'm more not a believer in Sam Darnold.

1294
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, I'm I've seen a lot

1295
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 3: from him the last couple of years. Yes, they've had

1296
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 3: a heck of a season, and that that home advantage

1297
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 3: is no joke. But I'm not closing out the fact

1298
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 3: that the forty nine ers, despite all their injuries, could

1299
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 3: could pull the upset.

1300
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: I know that if we bring up Brett Farv and

1301
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, you're you're not happy. But what is Matthew Stafford?

1302
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 5: And what was that? Sorry?

1303
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: What does Matt Stafford invoke for you?

1304
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 5: Oh? Not much.

1305
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 2: He's the hell of a player, but he didn't He didn't.

1306
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: Like torture the Bears game in and game.

1307
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 3: Because usually when he was with the Lions, they were

1308
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 3: the Lions.

1309
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: He was usually you know, I'm just trying to get

1310
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: a gauge of markste hatred.

1311
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 3: Will always be anybody in a Packers' uniform, Aaron Rodgers,

1312
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:36,439
Speaker 3: Brett Favre, That's that's the list.

1313
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 2: Ye, he was chanting blue tent at Aaron Rodgers on

1314
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 2: Monday night.

1315
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: He keeps saying that it's so wrong.

1316
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:46,919
Speaker 2: I wish I was wrong.

1317
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 5: I would.

1318
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 3: I hope he comes back next season and he gets

1319
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 3: pummeled as much as he did this year. That'd be fantastic.

1320
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: He's just openly rooting for someone to be physically abused.

1321
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 3: Now, well, no, I don't want him to get injured injured.

1322
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 3: But I would like to see, Hey, you want to

1323
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 3: play football, then get driven into the ground, old man.

1324
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 2: Thanks for clarifying. I would like to not see him

1325
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 2: get injured injured. Thank you for that.

1326
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: I would to the ground.

1327
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 3: Yeah that's right, James, right, can you throw some dirt

1328
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 3: on and get back out there?

1329
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, well he might have threw some dirt on his

1330
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 4: crew with that pick six that that might be. It

1331
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 4: might be curtains for I saw the highlights the other day.

1332
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 2: If you guys remember the Packers Cardinals playoff game ten

1333
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 2: years ago, that was a great when ro was it?

1334
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 2: Jeff Janis? Is that who Rodgers hit on those deep balls?

1335
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 2: I watched the highlights of that drive. Oh my gosh, Rogers,

1336
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 2: I mean absurd in his prime. He was well Mary

1337
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 2: rolling out to his left. That's more than twenty from

1338
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 2: the goal.

1339
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 1: I mean it just that's why Mark loved him so

1340
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: much in his heyday. He just it's where the Bear

1341
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: seasons went to die.

1342
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 2: You gotta be good. Certainly Aaron Rodgers been that.

1343
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's earned my hate because yeah, there's similar to

1344
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 3: how that that game almost ended with Jordan Love just

1345
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 3: running around the pocket Pink just hit him. Somebody hit him, and.

1346
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 6: It's just like some tense moments I'm sure for Bears fans.

1347
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: All right, Mark, take a deep breath. Check it down

1348
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 1: the morning, checkdown on ninety sweet five and one oh

1349
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: seven five the fan. I don't want to see him

1350
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 1: get hurt, hurt, but I'd like to see him get

1351
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: driven into the turf. Yeah, yeah, football, all right, we

1352
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: are getting ready for IU and Miami Monday night college

1353
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 1: football Playoffs National Championship. It'll be at hard Rock Stadium,

1354
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 1: kick off at seven thirty. Airtime on WIBC at six thirty.

1355
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 1: And if you're one of the lucky few, I guess

1356
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 1: they've already handed out, or at least promised attendance tickets

1357
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: to Assembly Hall down in Bloomington, right, Kevin.

1358
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think all the tickets are already claimed. A

1359
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,439
Speaker 2: free watch party down there inside of Assembly Hall coming

1360
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 2: up on Monday, Jeff eight and a half. Too little,

1361
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 2: too much on the old favorite fru.

1362
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 1: I was just looking that up. I think it opened

1363
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: initially at five and a half, and then after the

1364
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: score came through on Oregon, it went to seven and

1365
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 1: a half, and it's gone up by another point's thin

1366
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 1: eight and a half starting to edge up there because

1367
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: I do like the Hoosiers, but now you're starting to

1368
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 1: talk about two solid scores as an advantage. I think

1369
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 1: I still like the Hoosiers at eight and a half,

1370
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 1: but it's starting to make me uncomfortable a little bit. James,

1371
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 1: where are you at on that uncomfortable with that point?

1372
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 6: I don't think it should be that if if I'm putting.

1373
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 1: One hundred bucks down, I still am okay at eight

1374
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 1: and a half, but I'm starting to like grab at

1375
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 1: the collar a little bit.

1376
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 6: Oh, I'm not nah.

1377
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 1: I think I u is considerably So you think double

1378
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: digit double digits right now?

1379
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1380
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 4: I really do think that because of all the factors

1381
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 4: I said earlier. You would have to have Miami play

1382
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 4: a perfect game and get some big, big breaks. I

1383
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 4: think to make this not a double digit game against Indiana.

1384
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 1: Sixty eight point three percent chance according to the ESPN

1385
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 1: matchup predictor, that Indiana wins this football game. The old

1386
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 1: under lay.

1387
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 6: That's to Kurt Signetti and get his thoughts, interesting.

1388
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 1: Kevin, The over under on this one is forty seven

1389
01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: and a half for respecting both teams defenses.

1390
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 2: I think yeah, so what twenty eight twenty Yeah, that up.

1391
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: Hmm.

1392
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 2: That's kind of the rough estimate from Vegas.

1393
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 5: Yep.

1394
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 1: So we'll see how it all plays out and how

1395
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,959
Speaker 1: that line moves over the course of the week. Again,

1396
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 1: Monday night seven thirty, kickoffs six thirty yeartime at ninety

1397
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 1: three five and one oh seven. I'm sorry, we'll have

1398
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 1: the Pacers game that night. WIBC has the National Championship Game.

1399
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 1: Speaking of the Pacers, they will be at home tonight

1400
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: looking to extend their winning streak when they play at

1401
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 1: home against the Toronto Raptors. How about the winning streak

1402
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 1: that they're on right now, let's keep it going.

1403
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 6: Shout out to the Sers.

1404
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 1: I like it again. That one will start at seven

1405
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 1: pm tonight. Airtime here on the Fan begins at six thirty.

1406
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 1: Speaking of basketball, college hoops, last night, Hoosiers were all

1407
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 1: tied at Michigan State's Breslin Center with eleven minutes to go,

1408
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 1: and they end up losing by twenty one. That is

1409
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 1: a heck of a second half, second half run right there.

1410
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, Michigan State's one of the best teams

1411
01:05:55,840 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 4: in college basketball this year. Typical Tom Izzo gritty bound run.

1412
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 4: It's kind of their motto what they've done year and

1413
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 4: a year out. And I felt like, I you was

1414
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 4: trying to punch above his wag's class and the second

1415
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 4: half there.

1416
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:09,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just went through a stretch in the second

1417
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 1: half they could not score and Michigan State took off.

1418
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 1: Lamar Wilkerson led the Hoosiers with nineteen. They were out

1419
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 1: rebounded thirty three to sixteen. They'll be back at home Saturday,

1420
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: two o'clock tip against the Iowa Hawkeyes. Meanwhile, Miami Notre

1421
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 1: Dame played last night. Hurricanes win at eighty one sixty nine.

1422
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 1: Trey Donaldson scored twenty three points. Malik Renaut had seventeen

1423
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 1: and ten. We know that name. Jalen Harrelson had eighteen

1424
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: for Notre Dame. Did you watch the entire game, Kevin,

1425
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: or did you switch it off with a few minutes

1426
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 1: to go?

1427
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:43,439
Speaker 2: No, I watched the entire game. I give you then, go, Yeah, Mark,

1428
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 2: what the hell was that to start the eight o'clock hour.

1429
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 3: I assume that's why I wanted hold her on. He's like,

1430
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 3: we got one win of the week, one more to.

1431
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 1: Go, Miami guy, Yeah, learned some Mornus Chance. So Notre

1432
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 1: Dame will play Saturday at Virginia Tech. That one starts

1433
01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 1: at noon. Later on tonight, Iowa, well this at Mackie

1434
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 1: and that will be at six thirty PM for a

1435
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,439
Speaker 1: tip with Purdue. Butler plays at Xavier. That one also

1436
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 1: tips at six thirty. Tamika Catchings, guys been named a permanent,

1437
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,439
Speaker 1: full time ambassador for the Pacer Sports and Entertainment. Of course,

1438
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 1: she played for the Fever for sixteen years as a

1439
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 1: former WNBA MVP and the career scoring leader and one

1440
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 1: of our favorite people in the community. So good for her.

1441
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Tamika Catchings is probably the greatest basketball

1442
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 4: player to represent this city. Her resume compared to all

1443
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 4: the other ones. That's even including Reggie Miller. Not to

1444
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 4: get too you know, head to head, but it is unbelievable.

1445
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 6: That's God.

1446
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess professional professional team is what I

1447
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 4: meant to say. Yeah, but Oscar Robertson is another great.

1448
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 1: All right, anything else you guys want to throw in

1449
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 1: before we head off?

1450
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:49,439
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1451
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 6: I do want to throw this in there.

1452
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 4: Shout out to Shakia Taylor, my colleague at the Athletics,

1453
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 4: spoke to Tyre's halliburn An exclusive article they just got

1454
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,479
Speaker 4: released this morning, so checked that out after the show.

1455
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 4: But one of the that Halliburton gave her about the

1456
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 4: injury is, I think about it every time I'm blink.

1457
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 4: So pretty candid Halliburton as he always is. But he's

1458
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 4: on the road to recovery and got really deep in

1459
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 4: this article. So I'm looking forward to, you know, reading

1460
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 4: more of it and kind of just seeing him back

1461
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 4: out there. I know he's been doing his routine out

1462
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 4: in the public before games, which is exciting.

1463
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 1: Do you have any PTSD when he saw George Kittle.

1464
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 6: Pts no.

1465
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 1: And then as somebody looking, you know, with the Pacers

1466
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:30,719
Speaker 1: and Daniel Jones and everything else.

1467
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 4: I think you just know the severity of it and

1468
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 4: you feel for the guy because another big blow to

1469
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 4: that team.

1470
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:36,799
Speaker 6: In that franchise.

1471
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 1: Now, just all we've been through here in Indiana with

1472
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 1: the Achilles over the last several months. And then George

1473
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 1: Kittle is a guy I enjoy watching him play, and man,

1474
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 1: you saw that calf just wiggle a little bit. It

1475
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 1: was like, unfortunately, we all know what we're looking at now.

1476
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:52,719
Speaker 1: When that Yeah, the only.

1477
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 2: Other thing I'd add again the Mike Tomlin news from yesterday.

1478
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:57,799
Speaker 2: So now we have nine openings. From what I understand,

1479
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin mos still he resigned. This is not like

1480
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 2: John Harball with Baltimore. Mike Tomlin did resign, so technically

1481
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh still has his rights, I believe, for one more year.

1482
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 2: So we'll see exactly what that means for Mike Tomlin.

1483
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:11,600
Speaker 2: Does he take a year off, does he do the

1484
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 2: TV thing?

1485
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 5: What is he?

1486
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 2: Fifty three ye years old? Just kind of crazy to

1487
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:19,600
Speaker 2: think about the run that he has had there. So

1488
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 2: three AFC North openings Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Zach Taylor, and

1489
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 2: Cincinnati survives for another year, and that is a division

1490
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 2: the colt will play coming up next season.

1491
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:31,600
Speaker 1: It kind of feels like John Harball will be the

1492
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 1: first domino to fall. And then after that happens, we'll

1493
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 1: start to find out what teams are going to do, right.

1494
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,600
Speaker 2: Kurt Signatty or Marcus Freeman of the Steelers.

1495
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 1: For your sake, it's gotta be Marcus Freeman.

1496
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 2: Steelers typically do unique to I mean Mike Tomlin. I

1497
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 2: don't know if people fully realize this. He was a

1498
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 2: one year defensive coordinator before he got hired, but with

1499
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 2: no ties. It's not like he had coached at Pittsburgh

1500
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 2: or coached for Pittsburgh there. So you know, obviously we

1501
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 2: know the stat what is that three coaches since the

1502
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 2: Nixon administration For.

1503
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 6: The fourth coach, I believe since nineteen sixty, I'll.

1504
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 2: Be curious what they do. Like I saw some people

1505
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 2: mentioned former Steelers Larry Foote Antoine Randall ll. That was

1506
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 2: the guy I actually wanted to eye you to hire

1507
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 2: when m Kurtzignetti opening. I guess when the top Mallen

1508
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 2: opening occurred there. Antoine Randall l Mark currently with your bears,

1509
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:20,799
Speaker 2: right sistant head coach to Ben Johnson.

1510
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 5: Yep.

1511
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 2: So I'll be curious of his name pops up there,

1512
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 2: given the history he has in Pittsburgh.

1513
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 1: Bring back Bill Kauer.

1514
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 2: I thought I saw some Vegas gods had Freeman signetti. Yeah,

1515
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 2: relatively high, but I believe Adam Schefter reiterated yesterday Marcus

1516
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 2: Freeman will be staying at Notre Dame for twenty twenty six.

1517
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 1: All right, that's what's happening in the world of sports.

1518
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 1: Coming up in a minute, we'll talk more Indiana Hoosiers

1519
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 1: getting ready for a national Championship. What do the Colts

1520
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 1: do next? And the Pacers back at home? I do

1521
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 1: have one major regret from earlier this week though, Did

1522
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 1: I miss Cluster Truck yesterday?

1523
01:10:56,040 --> 01:11:00,080
Speaker 2: Indeed, we should have got planned these drops weight for

1524
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 2: them mark an ode to Jeff Taylor. Tannebom is all

1525
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 2: about it.

1526
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 1: She's a big Cluster Truck person.

1527
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 2: She she mentioned that it is the one place that

1528
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 2: she would most like to, you know, kind of bring

1529
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 2: back into her life would be Cluster Truck. So shout

1530
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,640
Speaker 2: out to that big fan your promo code there at

1531
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 2: Cluster Truck. I was talking about this yesterday, Guys, what

1532
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:26,680
Speaker 2: are your what ifs of the cold season? And I'm

1533
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 2: talking specifically games like the what if moment? I think

1534
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 2: the obvious one is Seattle. It's probably the could you

1535
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 2: have just gotten one final stop there?

1536
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 1: Any other so we're not allowed to say, oh, the

1537
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 1: injury to Daniel Jones. No, I think more like.

1538
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 2: Dames what if? Obviously, Baltimore fans just simply say if

1539
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 2: the kick goes in or not? You know, like that

1540
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 2: one's very simple for them. What other what if games

1541
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 2: kind of pop into your mind?

1542
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 1: The shadow one is, like you said, that's the obvious.

1543
01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 6: One Kansas City.

1544
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 4: You're up eleven and the fourth or against the defending

1545
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 4: AFC champs and knowing how their season ended.

1546
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 6: Granted, Patrick Mahomes got hurt, but they weren't.

1547
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 4: The Juggernaut Chiefs of old, and you still find a

1548
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 4: way to blow an eleven point fourth quarter lead.

1549
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 6: I get that with the ball to hurt and all that,

1550
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 6: but yeah, you were up eleven with.

1551
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 2: The ball early in the fourth quarter there. That might

1552
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 2: be the like Mahomes that was a season high in

1553
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 2: yards for him, and that was Mooney and saw Us

1554
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 2: actually healthy.

1555
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:26,719
Speaker 6: That was there one full game together.

1556
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think about that a little bit. You know,

1557
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 2: Houston at home. You think back to that game. It

1558
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 2: was the lone home game in like that seven week stretch.

1559
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 2: And Mark, correct me if I'm wrong, but you know,

1560
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 2: you were what probably thirty yard line chance to win

1561
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 2: the game. Remember the Josh downs drop on that third

1562
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 2: down our sideline and then Jones throws I don't know,

1563
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 2: kind of a highish fastball. You could maybe say Pittman

1564
01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 2: should have had it on fourth down, but I don't know.

1565
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 2: I think that's a little bit critical there. But yeah,

1566
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:04,680
Speaker 2: that's one Mark, because you think of the ramifications of

1567
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 2: what December possibly could have looked like the rest of

1568
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 2: the way you to put more pressure on Houston. Yeah,

1569
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 2: obviously with getting that first win when Week eighteen didn't

1570
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 2: matter when you played them again. So you know those

1571
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 2: are probably the one. Obviously you could play it the

1572
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:19,560
Speaker 2: other way. You know, Denver could have flipped, Arizona go

1573
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 2: to flip, Atlanta could have flipped. But yeah, the what

1574
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 2: ifs for me, Yeah, it goes to the one Seattle case.

1575
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 5: James.

1576
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 4: We've got a few people on our YouTube chat shout

1577
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 4: out to Alex Levern and who's your in nineteen ninety seven,

1578
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 4: they're mentioning the Rams game the eighty Mitchell gaff gaffs.

1579
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 4: That's just a plural because of the drop touchdown and

1580
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 4: then the holding penalty. Lose by seven against that team.

1581
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 2: With that holding penalty, Jonathan Taylor ripped off that run

1582
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 2: fifty three yards I believe to the house, and that

1583
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 2: would that was to take the lead, right.

1584
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, That's that's why ad Ad is a New York

1585
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 1: chet these days.

1586
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 6: That game, yeah, I mean quite frankly, Yeah, in the

1587
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 6: house for a long time after.

1588
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 2: That, James, on that you got the holding and then

1589
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 2: was that one verse just whip Bernard Ryman when you

1590
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 2: got way behind the chains? Yeah that was after that hold.

1591
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 4: Yeah that and again we saw that last week again

1592
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 4: with how potent that pass Russ can be for the

1593
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 4: Rams when they pin their ears back.

1594
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 6: Man, that's a really good group.

1595
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 1: Justin wants to know. I'm just trying to understand, how

1596
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 1: do we depend on the same core players to get

1597
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 1: the job done next year if they couldn't get it

1598
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 1: done over the last five years. And yes, that is

1599
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:32,640
Speaker 1: including JT, Quinton Nelson and Forrest Forrest Buckner. So and

1600
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 1: I think it's a fair question. It's not like any

1601
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 1: of those guys are getting any younger, and those are

1602
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 1: the core players and you're running it all back again.

1603
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think it's a fair question. Obviously, you

1604
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:46,679
Speaker 2: are hoping for better health with some of those players

1605
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 2: on the list, which again Daniel Jones's injury history and

1606
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 2: the torn achilles and coming back from that in ten

1607
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 2: months is certainly quite the bet. And to Forest Buckling

1608
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 2: with the next surgery. Of course, we're still await Mooneywards

1609
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:03,719
Speaker 2: commitment to playing into six. Now you know what personnel

1610
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:07,719
Speaker 2: changes are there. I don't necessarily expect household household changes.

1611
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:10,599
Speaker 2: But you know, is there any way, shape or form

1612
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 2: the Colts can do in the secondary? Excuse me, the

1613
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 2: Colts can do to their defensive line what they did

1614
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 2: in their secondary last year? That would be the biggest

1615
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 2: question I have. Is it possible to try? And you know,

1616
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 2: is there a Cambina Mooney Ward you can all of

1617
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 2: a sudden insert into your defensive front now? Cap space wise,

1618
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:37,600
Speaker 2: probably not, But is there a way that, hey, you

1619
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 2: create more cap space? B do you you know, strike

1620
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 2: lightning in a bottle and hit on an early draft

1621
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 2: pick to instant impact you, because not just hitting on

1622
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 2: the draft pick, Like you know, Alex Peters became a

1623
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:50,599
Speaker 2: very good draft pick, Bernard Ryman became a very good

1624
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 2: draft pick. Nick Cross I think has turned into a

1625
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 2: nice draft pick. They weren't that in the rookie seasons

1626
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 2: at all. Yeah, and now you're asking for them to

1627
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 2: have to deliver in that manner here in twenty twenty six.

1628
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 6: Well, here are some names.

1629
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 4: When I was going through this the other day, when

1630
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 4: it comes to defensive ends and when they're a free

1631
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 4: agent defensive ends, they're gonna be flawed to a degree

1632
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 4: like you're not gonna get anybody of the Max Crosby

1633
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 4: Miles Garrett category.

1634
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 6: But some of the names here.

1635
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 4: Trey Hendrickson, he's coming off to what is the core

1636
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 4: muscle surgery, He's thirty one, Khlail mack matter be thirty

1637
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 4: five A Sam Reddick, Joy Bosa, then he goo Autry.

1638
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 6: How about that?

1639
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 4: Messed that up once. I guess you can double back

1640
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 4: if you want to. But those are some of the

1641
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 4: names that you're looking at. And I get the age

1642
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 4: might not be where you want it to be. But

1643
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 4: do you say, hey, our window is now and we'll

1644
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 4: just go get the guy who might be a little

1645
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 4: bit older, but at least has proven to be a

1646
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,600
Speaker 4: game changer, a difference maker, And I think it'll be

1647
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 4: something along that front, Kevin when it comes to trying

1648
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 4: to build out the rest of that defensive end room,

1649
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:05,600
Speaker 4: because right now I believe Taekwon Lewis, Samson Ebukam and

1650
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 4: Quitty pay are all free agents. None of them should

1651
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 4: probably be brought back. In my eyes, like, what are

1652
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 4: you doing if you do bring them back? How much

1653
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 4: I don'd agree on that?

1654
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 2: Is that also silly though?

1655
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 3: To try to I mean, you're gonna go to the

1656
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 3: free agent well on guys that are over thirty on

1657
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 3: a team that Yeah, I mean again, like is that

1658
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:24,679
Speaker 3: worth putting financial resources into?

1659
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 4: I know, And That's where I'm kind of stuck, Mark,

1660
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 4: But also, are you banking on someone who's this is

1661
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 4: where I'm at. Are you banking on the older guy

1662
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 4: who might be more expensive but who has done it?

1663
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 4: Versus can we draft for somebody? Can we trade for

1664
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 4: somebody that might have upside with our team that didn't

1665
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 4: really get a chance to reach it elsewhere? Like, there

1666
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 4: is no perfect answer here, my man, especially because you

1667
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:51,839
Speaker 4: missed on the guys who are supposed to be your pillars.

1668
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 1: So let me throw out some guys that are probably

1669
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:57,600
Speaker 1: being looked at because of the cap hit that they

1670
01:17:57,760 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 1: represent right now, and then we'll talk about their dead cap.

1671
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 1: But Michael Pittman Junior twenty nine million dollars this year

1672
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 1: with a cap hit his dead cap hit is only five.

1673
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:11,600
Speaker 1: That makes him a pretty good candidate if they want to.

1674
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:13,800
Speaker 2: Mean simply, Michael Pittman Junior cannot be playing for the

1675
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 2: Colts this year with a twenty nine million dollar Yeah,

1676
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 2: he said that, I almost sound Yeah, I thought James

1677
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 2: to you guys in Houston. I thought he was very upfront.

1678
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 6: He was the realist person in the room.

1679
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 1: No way full well his situation, Yes, Mooney Ward, if

1680
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 1: he decides to retire is a twenty million dollar cap

1681
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 1: hit dead cap? How does that come into play? If

1682
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 1: he retires Kevin eighteen million?

1683
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be honest with you. I haven't really dealt

1684
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously Andrew Luck they paid him what twenty

1685
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 2: three million. I haven't really dealt with retirements like that.

1686
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 2: I need to look into that. I would assume that

1687
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:52,679
Speaker 2: comes off your books pretty easily, I would hope.

1688
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 1: Would you even look at saving cap space with Grover

1689
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 1: Stewart at fourteen point twenty five million?

1690
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:02,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think you know. James went over this

1691
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 2: the other day. The core unquestioned defensive starters for this

1692
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 2: team moving forward, certainly Sauce Gardner definitely a lot to

1693
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 2: cam bine them. M That's kind of where I stop now.

1694
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:21,600
Speaker 2: I think Grover would probably be next. I mean, the

1695
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 2: Culture were one of the best round defense teams in

1696
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:23,799
Speaker 2: the NFL.

1697
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 4: Ast season, and his play hasn't dropped off, So you know, again,

1698
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 4: at some point you can only change so much.

1699
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 2: So I get that that's a healthy cap hit at

1700
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 2: what is he thirty two years old something like.

1701
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 1: That, but still it's not a crazy number to keep either.

1702
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again there's a bit of a who else

1703
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 2: or like, what else do you?

1704
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 1: You know?

1705
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 2: That's kind of a little bit of a.

1706
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 6: Sign saying you can't change. You can't have a whole

1707
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 6: bunch of holesale change everything.

1708
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:48,679
Speaker 4: You told us you were a top four team before

1709
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,560
Speaker 4: the injuries happened, right, that's according to Chris ballor so

1710
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 4: you had to be thinking we're going forward in twenty

1711
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 4: twenty six. There is like there is no rebuilding, there's retooling.

1712
01:19:58,240 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 4: But yeah, if you're going to rebuild it, yeah, just

1713
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 4: everything down anyway.

1714
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 2: You can't do a rectile dysfunction, hair transplant and shave

1715
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:06,759
Speaker 2: off the waistline all in one off season.

1716
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 1: Now that you can if you listen to a spot

1717
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 1: break here at ninety three five and one of seven

1718
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:15,679
Speaker 1: five two shots, Kenny Moore's thirteen point two million, Azire

1719
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 1: Franklin's eight point two million, those would probably be the

1720
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 1: remaining bigger kind of cap savings if you wanted to

1721
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:27,559
Speaker 1: go that way, Kevin, you want to keep Kenny Moore

1722
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:29,599
Speaker 1: around at thirty one untill at thirteen point two million.

1723
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 2: I don't think anymore. The second had a great, great season.

1724
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 2: But I also can sit here and say, if Mooney

1725
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 2: Ward retires, are you all of a sudden cutting Kenny

1726
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 2: Moore and Justin Waller's coming off a torn aca. I

1727
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:45,760
Speaker 2: imagine that, you know, so yes, again, I would like

1728
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 2: to do all of it. But listen to the you know,

1729
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 2: a little sound of Mark Dykon just played there. You

1730
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 2: might have to prioritize some of the stuff, and to

1731
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:56,639
Speaker 2: me the priorities defensive front, pass rush, pass rush, pass rush,

1732
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 2: pass rush, and then I probably go linebacker.

1733
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 1: All right, if you're wondering. The top fifty one cap space,

1734
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 1: according to spot track is fifty two point seven million

1735
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:08,560
Speaker 1: as we sit here today, with dead cap at just

1736
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 1: over two million. So whatever that's worth, that's what they've

1737
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 1: got to think about over the next two months or so,

1738
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:18,720
Speaker 1: we'll see how it all shakes out. Coming up in

1739
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:20,599
Speaker 1: just a moment, we'll talk more about Indiana getting ready

1740
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 1: to play Miami. A lot of people heading down there,

1741
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:24,680
Speaker 1: a lot of people heading into Assembly Hall, a lot

1742
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:26,560
Speaker 1: of people flying in to just go to Bloomington. I

1743
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 1: found that out yesterday in a bit of a surprise.

1744
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that game good Mornings. Just a few

1745
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 1: days away from Monday night's National championship game, the Indiana

1746
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:39,640
Speaker 1: Hoosiers will be taking on the Miami Hurricanes, and we

1747
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 1: have found out that the line has crawled up to

1748
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:44,520
Speaker 1: eight and a half points in favor of the Hoosiers,

1749
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 1: ESPN's matchup predictors giving them a sixty eight percent chance

1750
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 1: to win that football game. Right now kind of feels like,

1751
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 1: is it crazy to think that the Miami Hurricanes that

1752
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 1: we've seen just you know, beat up Ohio State and

1753
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 1: play well in their last game against Miss Sippy, we

1754
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 1: can't take them lightly. You don't want Indiana to figure, hey,

1755
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:07,759
Speaker 1: you're just gonna go in there be two touchdown favorites

1756
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 1: or nine point favorites and go get it done. They

1757
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:13,639
Speaker 1: got to approach this game just like they did against

1758
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 1: Ohio State in the Big Ten championship game.

1759
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it's a national championship, so I would expect

1760
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 4: coach Sick to have a squad ready for the biggest

1761
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:24,600
Speaker 4: game of the season. And he did say they just

1762
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 4: can't treat it bigger than what it is.

1763
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 6: But I honestly think.

1764
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 4: I think that's one of the biggest cliches in all

1765
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 4: sports when you get to a playoff game, championship game

1766
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 4: and they tell you, y'all, it's just like any other game.

1767
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 6: I agree with that to an extent.

1768
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:39,679
Speaker 4: Granted, I'm not a player of coach, so you don't

1769
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 4: want to go out there and just try to be

1770
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 4: you know, if you're D'Angelo Ponds, you're not trying to

1771
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 4: pick six every single throw that's in your vicinity. But

1772
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 4: I do think there is a certain extra layer that's

1773
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:52,639
Speaker 4: there because you're not human.

1774
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 6: If you don't feel that, I.

1775
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 2: Think a key for Indiana will be and I know

1776
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 2: it sounds like a very elementary thing and fundamentally they're

1777
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:01,919
Speaker 2: obviously pristine, but it will be tackling.

1778
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 5: You know.

1779
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,200
Speaker 2: Malachi Tony, I think is one of the hardest players

1780
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:08,600
Speaker 2: in all college football to frankly tackle, and especially in

1781
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 2: the space boy, he made an sec old miss defense

1782
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:15,639
Speaker 2: look like it was seven point thirty on a Friday

1783
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 2: night tip versus six o'clock on a Friday night tip,

1784
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 2: and they're man, that's a varsity versus JV. There are

1785
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:24,560
Speaker 2: not many people that can make it look like that.

1786
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 2: And I really do like their running back duo, Mark

1787
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 2: Fletcher Junior especially. I think people that have watched Miami

1788
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 2: have seen his story. They've shown his mom a lot

1789
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 2: in the crowd. She doesn't fly to game. She drove

1790
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 2: to Berkeley last year when they played for Nanda, Mendoza

1791
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 2: and Cal. And then Brown is the other guy, kind

1792
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 2: of the change of pace guy, the North Dakota State

1793
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:47,560
Speaker 2: transfer again. You know, I I Indiana defensively is so

1794
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 2: damn solid, but tackling, just making sure that whatever the

1795
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 2: bubble screen to Tony is not turning into the big play.

1796
01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 2: Because one thing Indiana does like to do defensively, they

1797
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:00,639
Speaker 2: like to have a lot of lineback on the field.

1798
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 2: They're a little old school in the four to three

1799
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:06,680
Speaker 2: commitment that they like. Miami can stress you, I think

1800
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:08,599
Speaker 2: a little bit in you want to keep a third

1801
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:11,560
Speaker 2: linebacker out there? You know, Okay, we've got this to

1802
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 2: you know, potentially count that speed wise. So I do

1803
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 2: think that will be a definite storyline come Monday.

1804
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:18,600
Speaker 1: You know, one of the guys that I think is

1805
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 1: probably getting glossed over a little bit here. I think

1806
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:24,600
Speaker 1: Mario Christobal is a heck of a football coach. And

1807
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 1: everybody wants to talk about Kurt Signetti and they should

1808
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 1: and we're going to obviously, and we know what he's

1809
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 1: done and what this team is capable of doing. But

1810
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 1: Mario Christobal feels like he's got that team just in

1811
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 1: the right spot at the right time, and they're responding

1812
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 1: to him every bit as much as the Hoosias are

1813
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 1: responding to Kurt Signetti right now. James, Yeah, I was.

1814
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 4: Actually listening to Mario Christi Ball recently talking about IU,

1815
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:51,800
Speaker 4: and I believe wasn't he under a saving at some

1816
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 4: point as well, having all these guys all four of.

1817
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 1: The semi finalists were under at one point.

1818
01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 4: So he was talking about how with this IU team,

1819
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 4: he can't look at him as if they're like this

1820
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 4: new regime. He was like, yes, they've changed the quarterbacks

1821
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 4: since last year and a couple other things, but a

1822
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 4: lot of these guys have been there for two years

1823
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,679
Speaker 4: now and a few more have been there for longer

1824
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 4: under coach Signetti if they play at JAMU, So he's

1825
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 4: certainly not taking them for granted in that regard, and

1826
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 4: I think that will help the Miami team be more

1827
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 4: prepared for because you're not going into it thinking they're

1828
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 4: a typical, you know, Big ten team, Not that you

1829
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:27,879
Speaker 4: would at this point. I'm a year in the National Championship.

1830
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 4: Any team that's in there is really good at football.

1831
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 4: But I certainly think there's a healthy level of respect

1832
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 4: that he has for that program. But one thing I

1833
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:37,680
Speaker 4: think could be a huge factor, Kevin is if this

1834
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 4: is a tight game, I think I coached. I trust

1835
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 4: coach Signetti more with time management than Mario chris Ball

1836
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 4: because he's like reinvented himself this year.

1837
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:50,599
Speaker 6: A lot of the image has.

1838
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 4: Changed, but boy, he has had some blunders over the

1839
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 4: years when it comes to clock management that quite frankly,

1840
01:25:57,360 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 4: I thought would lead to him being fired before he

1841
01:25:59,000 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 4: ever got a chance playing that.

1842
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, they did manage it fairly well. I thought that

1843
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,760
Speaker 2: the old miss, you know in hell old miss thrown

1844
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:08,559
Speaker 2: in that area but still got it too, like many

1845
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 2: hail Mary range there at the end. But yes, I

1846
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 2: you know, if it gets to that point, which you

1847
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 2: know again right now, with how India has played the

1848
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 2: last two games, getting to that point seems like a

1849
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 2: far far cry. And obviously we've seen Indiana in several

1850
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 2: of those moments, you know, like Indian has been so

1851
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 2: damn dominant these last two games. You almost forget how

1852
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:29,679
Speaker 2: close Ohio State was, how close Iowa was, how close

1853
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 2: Penn State was. You know, those were you know, finishes

1854
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 2: down to the wire. Frankly, probably the Iowa game if

1855
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 2: the starting quarterback doesn't get hurt, you know, it potentially

1856
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 2: could have gone the other way there. And again one

1857
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 2: item to note for Monday. I'm sure we'll get more

1858
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 2: into this as we get closer to the game. One

1859
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:48,599
Speaker 2: of miamis starting safeties out for targeting for the first half.

1860
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 2: So I think if you were Mike Shanahan for Nano

1861
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 2: mendoz in company, concentrated shots in that first half. Obviously

1862
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:58,879
Speaker 2: you know they have no issue throwing the ball vertically,

1863
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:01,559
Speaker 2: you know, Becker down field, particularly in those first two

1864
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 2: quarters as you test some inexperience in there. I think

1865
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 2: that would be very, very much a part of their

1866
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 2: game plan.

1867
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy when you look at some of

1868
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 1: the season leaders in statistical comparisons, very similar Carson, you know,

1869
01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 1: Beck thirty five hundred and eighty one yards, passing Mendoza

1870
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 1: just under thirty four hundred yards rushing yards. The leading

1871
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 1: rusher for Miami Fletcher one thousand and eighty yards, Romanemby

1872
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:29,040
Speaker 1: one thousand and sixty yards. Now, of course they have

1873
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 1: a secondary running back that I think they ran for

1874
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 1: almost nineteen hundred yards as a team this year, and

1875
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 1: then receiving yards Tony the wide receiver as a thousand

1876
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 1: yard receiver this year. Omar Cooper Junior led the team

1877
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 1: at Indiana with eight sixty six. But again, sarat and

1878
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 1: Becker certainly add to all of that. So statistically it's

1879
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:49,560
Speaker 1: kind of weird how close and similar they seem to be.

1880
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 1: So I was looking that up yesterday.

1881
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 6: Two great teams.

1882
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:56,240
Speaker 1: Why they're playing in the National Championship Game. You'll be

1883
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 1: able to listen to it on a WIBC Monday night

1884
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:02,680
Speaker 1: airtime six with the Indiana Hoosiers Radio Network, and then

1885
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:05,240
Speaker 1: seven thirty at the kick we'll have the Pacers playing

1886
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 1: here on the fan on Monday night. Pacers play tonight

1887
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 1: by the way on the fan and over at the Fieldhouse.

1888
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 1: We'll tell you all about that next, and we'll talk

1889
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 1: to a former IU quarterback who played in the National

1890
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 1: Football League next. I'm digging it, Mark. We could play

1891
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 1: this every rejoin from now until Monday night. I think

1892
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 1: people will be okay with that. Hopefully they play this

1893
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 1: a ton on Monday night. James Boyd, you want to

1894
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 1: hear this about eight times on Monday night, don't you?

1895
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:33,559
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1896
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:37,639
Speaker 6: They would be doing some good things come next week

1897
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 6: if that happens.

1898
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 1: All right, Indiana playing in the National Championship Game college

1899
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 1: football with an undefeated record. Still love saying that Monday

1900
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 1: night against the Miami Hurricanes and joining us now, guy

1901
01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 1: who played quarterback at Indiana, guy who played in the

1902
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:53,720
Speaker 1: National Football League, guy and knows a little thing or

1903
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:56,639
Speaker 1: two about winning and how things work. Trent Green joining

1904
01:28:56,720 --> 01:29:00,240
Speaker 1: us on the Payless Liquers Hotline this morning. How much

1905
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 1: fun are you having vicariously through all this?

1906
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 5: Hey, good morning, guys. I'm having a blast.

1907
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 7: It's you know, I'm just sitting here with a smile

1908
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 7: on my face as we're talking about Indiana.

1909
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 5: Playing in the National Championship Game.

1910
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:14,280
Speaker 7: I'm just like, wait a second, am I about to

1911
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:17,720
Speaker 7: jump on this interview talking about Indiana football in the

1912
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 7: National Championship Game.

1913
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 5: It never it never gets old.

1914
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 7: I don't know how many times I you know, where

1915
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 7: they talk about the Big Ten Championship Game, the college

1916
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 7: football playoffs, the semi finals. Now all of a sudden,

1917
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 7: here you are talking about Indiana going undefeated and being

1918
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:36,000
Speaker 7: national champs. So it's a really cool moment for us

1919
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 7: former players, and I know it's a really.

1920
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 5: Cool moment for all of Indiana alumni to be in

1921
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 5: this position. But yeah, really excited for Monday night.

1922
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:45,800
Speaker 1: Tree.

1923
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:47,400
Speaker 2: We can't thank you enough for the time here on

1924
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:51,000
Speaker 2: this Wednesday morning. First, do you, I guess, have you

1925
01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:53,840
Speaker 2: met Kurt Signetti at all? And if you have or

1926
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:56,600
Speaker 2: if you haven't, what have been your impressions of the

1927
01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:58,639
Speaker 2: job that he has done in less than two years.

1928
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:00,760
Speaker 7: Well, first off, I want I wanted to reach out

1929
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:03,599
Speaker 7: to him right when, right when Scott Dolson hired him

1930
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:06,960
Speaker 7: and brought him in, And of course his introductory press

1931
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 7: conference made a lot of ripples across college football, or

1932
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 7: at least across the state of Indiana, and then the

1933
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:15,680
Speaker 7: rest of the nation started taking attention to that introductory

1934
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:19,000
Speaker 7: press conference as as the last season went along. But

1935
01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 7: one of the one of the first conversation that Kurt

1936
01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:27,640
Speaker 7: and I had, he had reminded me and I and

1937
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 7: I honestly, I'd forgotten about it. He had reminded me

1938
01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:34,559
Speaker 7: that he recruited me. He was a quarterback coach at

1939
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:37,720
Speaker 7: Rice University when I was It was one of his

1940
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:40,320
Speaker 7: first coaching jobs, not in the very first, but one

1941
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:42,720
Speaker 7: of his first coaching jobs. He was the quarterback coach

1942
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 7: at Rice University. I was a high school quarterback coming

1943
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:47,759
Speaker 7: out of Saint Louis. Rice was one of the schools

1944
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:50,639
Speaker 7: that I was looking at because I have an incredible

1945
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:53,960
Speaker 7: business school and and I didn't know that football was

1946
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:55,640
Speaker 7: going to be my future. I was looking at good

1947
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:58,880
Speaker 7: business schools and and uh, that's how I ended up

1948
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:00,960
Speaker 7: at Indiana, or one of the main reasons I ended

1949
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 7: up at Indiana. But anyway, Rice University was was he

1950
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 7: was the quarterback coach there. He did not recruit me.

1951
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:09,840
Speaker 7: He wasn't the recruiter that covered the Saint Louis area,

1952
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:12,559
Speaker 7: but he was the quarterback coach. So when I went

1953
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:14,120
Speaker 7: on my busity, because I took an official one of

1954
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:17,880
Speaker 7: my five official visits, I went to Rice and he's

1955
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:20,839
Speaker 7: and we spent we spent a few hours together, obviously

1956
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 7: going over tape and watching and he was in his

1957
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:26,760
Speaker 7: twenties and early twenties, and I would have been goss

1958
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:29,760
Speaker 7: at that point. I probably was seventeen maybe eighteen years old.

1959
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:33,479
Speaker 7: So he reminded me that we had met, and we

1960
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 7: had met for quite some time as he was recruiting me,

1961
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:39,960
Speaker 7: and then and then of course we you know, had

1962
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 7: a laugh about that and move forward.

1963
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:43,639
Speaker 5: But just was an.

1964
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:48,800
Speaker 7: Incredible job he's done. It's phenomenal, you know, his evaluation

1965
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 7: and talent and you can understand why, you know, he

1966
01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:55,640
Speaker 7: was Nick Saban's recruiting coordinator and the talent evaluator for

1967
01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:58,760
Speaker 7: years and years, but then he ultimately wanted to, you know,

1968
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 7: get that opportunity to be a head coach. But it's

1969
01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:03,560
Speaker 7: it's really cool to see how far he's come and

1970
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:06,040
Speaker 7: just what he's done for the program and how he

1971
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:09,880
Speaker 7: continues to build it, you know, in this era of

1972
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:14,160
Speaker 7: nil and transfers, and it's still about getting the right guys.

1973
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:16,679
Speaker 7: It's still about having the right chemistry. It's still about

1974
01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:18,840
Speaker 7: you know, you can spend all the money you want,

1975
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:22,439
Speaker 7: which Indiana is nowhere near as high as some of

1976
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:25,719
Speaker 7: these other programs. You've got to find the right chemistry

1977
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:27,639
Speaker 7: in that locker room. And he's done that two years.

1978
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:27,880
Speaker 5: In a row.

1979
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:33,960
Speaker 4: Again, we're talking to Trent Green, former IU quarterback and obviously,

1980
01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 4: I think you're pretty proud of the current quarterback, that

1981
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:38,880
Speaker 4: one being Fromanda Mendoza. I don't know if you have

1982
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:40,640
Speaker 4: a chance to interact with him at all. I did

1983
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 4: see you gave him a shout out on Twitter after

1984
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:46,160
Speaker 4: he won the Heisman. What's been your impression of his

1985
01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:48,880
Speaker 4: one season in Bloomington that is now one went away

1986
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:52,759
Speaker 4: from the greatest season in that program's history.

1987
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's you know, first off, I don't know Fernando.

1988
01:32:56,920 --> 01:33:00,080
Speaker 7: I purposely, like just like last year with Rourke, I

1989
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:02,479
Speaker 7: purposely don't reach out during the season. I'm not trying

1990
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:04,080
Speaker 7: to add any more to their plate. I know they're

1991
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:08,000
Speaker 7: getting tugged in a bunch of different directions. I'm hoping

1992
01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:10,840
Speaker 7: to meet him after the season, whether it be f

1993
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:14,519
Speaker 7: NAU basketball game when I'm back in town or you know,

1994
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:16,920
Speaker 7: as he's getting ready for the draft or whatever that

1995
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:18,840
Speaker 7: may be. I would love an opportunity to.

1996
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:19,240
Speaker 5: Talk to him.

1997
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:21,640
Speaker 7: If that doesn't happen, I'm sure I'll be talking to

1998
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:25,400
Speaker 7: him at a production meeting for an NFL team sometime soon,

1999
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:29,479
Speaker 7: so we will cross paths at some point. But what

2000
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:31,960
Speaker 7: an incredible job he's done, and I'm gonna be honest,

2001
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:34,400
Speaker 7: it's like a lot of people, I didn't know much

2002
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:35,519
Speaker 7: about Fernando Mendos.

2003
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 5: I didn't know. You know, I don't follow a lot

2004
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:40,040
Speaker 5: of col football, so I didn't I didn't really know

2005
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:40,760
Speaker 5: much about him.

2006
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:43,439
Speaker 7: So when they brought him in and they signed him,

2007
01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:45,360
Speaker 7: I remember them saying, you know, hey, this guy's got

2008
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 7: a potential to be a first round pick.

2009
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:48,760
Speaker 5: He's you know, he's a guy that can get better.

2010
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:50,519
Speaker 7: And then, you know, the first couple of games of

2011
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 7: the season, I was like, Okay, well, you know, you

2012
01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:55,040
Speaker 7: got to give him. You got to give him some time,

2013
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 7: right because the offense to me those first few games,

2014
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:00,920
Speaker 7: even though you know they there were, you know, a

2015
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 7: couple of huge blowouts in that, I was like, Okay,

2016
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:05,400
Speaker 7: this offense, it's a work in progress.

2017
01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:06,960
Speaker 5: You got a lot of new guys, you got a

2018
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 5: new quarterback trying to.

2019
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:11,280
Speaker 7: Get in connection with his receivers and uh and really,

2020
01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:14,600
Speaker 7: you know this, this is stating the obvious read. That

2021
01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:18,200
Speaker 7: Illinois game is when that offense started clicking and when

2022
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:22,760
Speaker 7: Fernando really started kind of emerging as the Fernando that

2023
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:24,880
Speaker 7: we see now. And you can see the confidence grow

2024
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:27,280
Speaker 7: not only in him but in the guys around him

2025
01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:27,840
Speaker 7: on the team.

2026
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:32,080
Speaker 5: That's what I love. You know. I'm sure you guys

2027
01:34:32,120 --> 01:34:32,920
Speaker 5: have made the fun of it.

2028
01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:36,280
Speaker 7: I know I've he's got some quirky interviews right that

2029
01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:38,880
Speaker 7: we've seen, you know, throughout the course of the season.

2030
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:42,840
Speaker 7: But the guys on the team love him. You can

2031
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:45,880
Speaker 7: see how much his teammates love him and love what

2032
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:49,479
Speaker 7: he's all about, and how he is unselfish and how

2033
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:52,080
Speaker 7: he's such a good leader. Uh and then and then

2034
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:54,560
Speaker 7: the quarterback skills obviously.

2035
01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:56,960
Speaker 5: Go beyond that. So it's it's really cool to see

2036
01:34:57,200 --> 01:34:59,120
Speaker 5: what he has done and how he's grown this season.

2037
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:01,360
Speaker 1: So true when yes, a guy who played in the

2038
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 1: NFL and broadcast NFL games and sees it all. When

2039
01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:07,360
Speaker 1: you look at his size, his arm strength, the way

2040
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 1: that he operates the team, the way that he conducts

2041
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 1: himself with the line of scrimmage and recognizes things and

2042
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 1: picks things up, and the leadership qualities that you describe

2043
01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:19,479
Speaker 1: what kind of an NFL quarterback do you see him being?

2044
01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 7: So all of those things you just said, it was

2045
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 7: like check, check check. I'm like, I'm like, those are

2046
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:29,439
Speaker 7: the things the qualities that you're looking for, you know,

2047
01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:31,920
Speaker 7: the things that jump out. He's got the mobility, he's

2048
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:34,360
Speaker 7: got the leadership, he's got the accuracy. You can see

2049
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:36,360
Speaker 7: that his teammates love him, the type of leader that

2050
01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:41,800
Speaker 7: he is for him because you know, his to me,

2051
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:44,120
Speaker 7: like he has he has an incredible arm. Right It's like,

2052
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:46,160
Speaker 7: no matter where on the field, he's putting it like

2053
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 7: right there on the money, it's it's uh, he's incredibly accurate.

2054
01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 7: But what I don't see is necessarily you know, like

2055
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:56,560
Speaker 7: the Josh Allen you know, fastball, I don't see you know,

2056
01:35:56,920 --> 01:36:00,040
Speaker 7: he can he has enough and he's accurate enough, and

2057
01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:04,000
Speaker 7: he's got enough arm velocity, something very similar to me.

2058
01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:05,920
Speaker 7: I always heard people tell that say that about me.

2059
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:08,040
Speaker 7: They're like, well, he's got a good enough arm or

2060
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:10,120
Speaker 7: he's got a strong enough arm. And I'm like, wait

2061
01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:12,000
Speaker 7: a second, I could throw it, you know, sixty five

2062
01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:15,479
Speaker 7: yards if I need to, and you know, but there's

2063
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:18,000
Speaker 7: just a difference, you know. I remember going to the

2064
01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:20,599
Speaker 7: combine for me, it was Drew Bledsoe. We're sitting there

2065
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 7: going through the quarterback drills. I saw the ball come

2066
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 7: out of his hand as like, oh, that's why that

2067
01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:27,960
Speaker 7: guy's the number one overall pick I don't necessarily see

2068
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:32,240
Speaker 7: that same same explosiveness out of Fernando's like velocity wise,

2069
01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:33,040
Speaker 7: but you don't.

2070
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 5: You don't need all that.

2071
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:37,599
Speaker 7: So to answer your question in terms of how he's

2072
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:39,920
Speaker 7: going to translate into you know, an NFL player or

2073
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:42,840
Speaker 7: an NFL quarterback, I think he has the potential to

2074
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:46,360
Speaker 7: be to be a great NFL quarterback. It's just like

2075
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:49,400
Speaker 7: so many guys, he needs to have the right system,

2076
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:53,600
Speaker 7: the right coach, someone that you know is running an

2077
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:55,760
Speaker 7: offense that fits really well for him. And I'll and

2078
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:58,959
Speaker 7: I'll use these as examples, just just a couple of examples,

2079
01:36:59,479 --> 01:37:00,920
Speaker 7: and it's really a lot of.

2080
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:01,360
Speaker 5: It comes out.

2081
01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:02,800
Speaker 7: Yes, you have to have the talent as the player,

2082
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:05,200
Speaker 7: but you have to have that coaching as well. Look

2083
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 7: at what Caleb Williams with the Bears his rookie year

2084
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:10,600
Speaker 7: compared to now with Ben Johnson. You bring in a

2085
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:14,160
Speaker 7: coach that knows how to develop quarterbacks and puts play

2086
01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:18,000
Speaker 7: calling and putting quarterbacks in a good situation. Caleb is

2087
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:21,000
Speaker 7: at a phenomenal second season. Go to New England with

2088
01:37:21,120 --> 01:37:23,600
Speaker 7: Drake May his first year, they only won three or

2089
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:26,599
Speaker 7: four games. He played Okay, Now, all of a sudden,

2090
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:29,120
Speaker 7: you know, you bring Josh McDaniels back, who's developed a

2091
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 7: lot of quarterbacks, put him in a good situation. Drake

2092
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:33,800
Speaker 7: May is probably going to be the MVP of the league.

2093
01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:36,160
Speaker 7: So I think it's important to Fernando go to the

2094
01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 7: right system in the right situation. But I think this

2095
01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:41,719
Speaker 7: guy's the limit for him in the NFL.

2096
01:37:42,439 --> 01:37:44,840
Speaker 2: I think that voice needs stone introduction. Certainly hearing a

2097
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:47,720
Speaker 2: lot on CBS Trent Green, the former IU quarterback. He's

2098
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:50,840
Speaker 2: with us here on the Payless Slickers hotline. So you

2099
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:54,240
Speaker 2: said part of the reason why you chose Indiana back

2100
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:56,760
Speaker 2: in the day was because of their business school. If

2101
01:37:56,800 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 2: I and I hate to jog the memory of you

2102
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 2: know whatever thirty years ago or so, but do you

2103
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:05,080
Speaker 2: have some fond Bloomington memories? Maybe an establishment or two

2104
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:08,120
Speaker 2: that you enjoyed, or your time in Bloomington kind of

2105
01:38:08,120 --> 01:38:09,000
Speaker 2: steers what for you?

2106
01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:14,080
Speaker 7: You know, it's uh, I've always held Bloomington in Indiana

2107
01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:15,120
Speaker 7: really close.

2108
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:19,040
Speaker 5: We get back as much as we can. The main

2109
01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:20,599
Speaker 5: thing is that I met my wife there.

2110
01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 7: We met when we were juniors, uh, just twenty years old,

2111
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:27,839
Speaker 7: and and you know, so we just have some incredibly

2112
01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:30,519
Speaker 7: fond memories when we get a chance to go back,

2113
01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:33,960
Speaker 7: and now all of a sudden, with the uh you know,

2114
01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:36,080
Speaker 7: with the with the National Championship game coming.

2115
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 5: Up, we're gonna we're going to reunite.

2116
01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:39,800
Speaker 7: I've already coordinated with a couple of former teammates and

2117
01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:42,040
Speaker 7: their wives that my that I was friends with them

2118
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:45,080
Speaker 7: because their teammates, but then our our wives now we're

2119
01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 7: all friends because they were the girlfriends back and back

2120
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:50,760
Speaker 7: in college. So it's really cool that that we're all

2121
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:52,680
Speaker 7: going to be able to get together. So those are

2122
01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:55,000
Speaker 7: obviously the first things that come to mind. But yeah,

2123
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:59,519
Speaker 7: there's all all kinds of things, you know, the whole

2124
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:02,720
Speaker 7: Kirkley thing. Right, buffalois Buffalois used to be in a

2125
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:06,800
Speaker 7: different lot now now Buffalouis is closer to campus. He

2126
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:08,840
Speaker 7: used to be way down. It used to be way

2127
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 7: off the beaten path when I was there, you know obviously,

2128
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:15,800
Speaker 7: Well now it's upstairs Pub. It used to be Hooligans

2129
01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:19,160
Speaker 7: back in the day. Uh, Hooligans was was the lower

2130
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:21,880
Speaker 7: bar area and then upstairs Pub was was like a

2131
01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:22,400
Speaker 7: smaller one.

2132
01:39:22,439 --> 01:39:24,320
Speaker 5: Now Upstairs Pub. We were back.

2133
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 7: Gosh when were we back? It was it would have

2134
01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:29,400
Speaker 7: been last basketball season. Uh, and we went in there

2135
01:39:29,439 --> 01:39:31,040
Speaker 7: and I was like, man, this is this is a

2136
01:39:31,120 --> 01:39:36,640
Speaker 7: completely different setup. But upstairs pub obviously Nick's, Kilroy's, you know.

2137
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:40,320
Speaker 5: Uh, Janko's Little Zagreb Janko's.

2138
01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:43,320
Speaker 7: That's like that you made the tour, That's the That's

2139
01:39:43,439 --> 01:39:45,960
Speaker 7: like my go to spot because when I came there

2140
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:49,040
Speaker 7: as a as a recruit, Bill Mallory and his staff

2141
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:51,599
Speaker 7: that was always where they took the recruits recruiting weekend,

2142
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:55,760
Speaker 7: and so that was I still when I get back,

2143
01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:57,559
Speaker 7: I'm like, hey, I got I gotta get over there

2144
01:39:57,840 --> 01:40:00,560
Speaker 7: and uh get one of them, U get one of

2145
01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:02,880
Speaker 7: the mistakes or maybe a rack of ribs or whatever

2146
01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:05,040
Speaker 7: it is, because it's uh, it just brings back a

2147
01:40:05,080 --> 01:40:08,640
Speaker 7: lot of nostalgia, uh and memories because of you know,

2148
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:11,519
Speaker 7: some great times there. But uh oh yeah, shen't forget

2149
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Speaker 7: Bluebird for live music, right exactly. I'll give you the

2150
01:40:14,479 --> 01:40:18,160
Speaker 7: whole years on Wednesday night. That's right.

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01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:21,760
Speaker 1: Oh man, Hey, you grew up in Iowa. We have

2152
01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:24,600
Speaker 1: a prominent athlete here in Indiana now that grew up

2153
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:28,640
Speaker 1: in Iowa. You Beigkaitlyn Clarks fan, I am, I am.

2154
01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:31,120
Speaker 7: I I have a daughter that plays college volley or

2155
01:40:31,120 --> 01:40:33,960
Speaker 7: I have a daughter that plays college volleyball. So I've

2156
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:36,680
Speaker 7: been a big fan of women's support women's sports and

2157
01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:37,880
Speaker 7: supporting women's sports.

2158
01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:39,679
Speaker 5: And when you see what uh.

2159
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:46,200
Speaker 7: Caitlin Clark has done, it was just astonishing to me

2160
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:48,880
Speaker 7: that the fact that she dribbles across half court and

2161
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:51,000
Speaker 7: she can shoot from anywhere. I mean, and this is

2162
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:52,800
Speaker 7: you know, I'm going back when she was in college

2163
01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:56,520
Speaker 7: and she obviously still does it now, but it's I remember.

2164
01:40:56,240 --> 01:40:59,439
Speaker 5: I'm like, this can't be real. Like those those she has.

2165
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:02,560
Speaker 7: She has a Steph Curry like release, he has the accuracy.

2166
01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:06,720
Speaker 7: It's really cool to see what she did for for

2167
01:41:06,880 --> 01:41:10,320
Speaker 7: Iowa basketball, but for women's basketball. And I know there's

2168
01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:12,840
Speaker 7: other women that have done it. Listen, I followed, you know,

2169
01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:16,280
Speaker 7: Sue Bird and Gino Ariama and what he did at

2170
01:41:16,360 --> 01:41:19,759
Speaker 7: Yukon and Pat Summon at Tennessee, and you know, women's

2171
01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:21,280
Speaker 7: basketball has been around. I know there's a lot of

2172
01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:24,680
Speaker 7: this superstar Cheryl Miller. I'm going back in my day now,

2173
01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:27,880
Speaker 7: Cheryl Swoops and Cheryl Miller. You know, those are the

2174
01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:29,920
Speaker 7: two that really kind of jump out to me as

2175
01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:34,000
Speaker 7: women basketball. But Caitlin Clark in this new era of

2176
01:41:34,160 --> 01:41:37,639
Speaker 7: athlete has really really kind of captured the country by storm.

2177
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:39,920
Speaker 7: And yes, I'm a If you can't tell I'm a fan.

2178
01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:43,200
Speaker 1: Yes sounds good. Enjoy the game on Monday night and

2179
01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:44,040
Speaker 1: stay in touch.

2180
01:41:44,120 --> 01:41:47,120
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, as you can tell, I'm not excited at all.

2181
01:41:47,200 --> 01:41:49,080
Speaker 5: It's in the morning and I'm going to I'm going

2182
01:41:49,120 --> 01:41:50,800
Speaker 5: to mount a minute, and I haven't even had any

2183
01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:52,519
Speaker 5: caffeine yet. So let's go lose yours.

2184
01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:54,640
Speaker 1: You're gonna feel like you did on game day when

2185
01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:56,479
Speaker 1: you wake up on Monday, as if you were playing,

2186
01:41:56,520 --> 01:41:56,840
Speaker 1: aren't you.

2187
01:41:57,080 --> 01:41:59,920
Speaker 7: Oh, I'm so wired for this game. It's it's crazy

2188
01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:03,599
Speaker 7: because uh just every having an opportunity to talk about

2189
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:06,519
Speaker 7: Indiana football and and I have a number of interviews

2190
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:08,920
Speaker 7: set up and I'm looking forward to it because it's, uh,

2191
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:12,400
Speaker 7: you know, this is this is unprecedented, what Kurt Signetti,

2192
01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:16,200
Speaker 7: what Fernando Mendoz is doing. Uh, you know, it's really

2193
01:42:16,479 --> 01:42:19,040
Speaker 7: it's really special to see, you know what the athletic

2194
01:42:19,120 --> 01:42:21,519
Speaker 7: department of the school. They're getting behind the football program.

2195
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 7: The fans are getting behind it. Uh you go, you know,

2196
01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:26,600
Speaker 7: you go to their like I was. I went to

2197
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:29,120
Speaker 7: the game in Atlanta last week and every airport is

2198
01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:31,600
Speaker 7: filled with Indiana fans and you hear go Hoosiers, and

2199
01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:33,439
Speaker 7: you hear the chance and you know, and then you

2200
01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:35,959
Speaker 7: get in the dome and it's like ninety percent Indiana.

2201
01:42:36,160 --> 01:42:38,720
Speaker 7: It's uh, it's been phenomenal what's going on. So I

2202
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:39,280
Speaker 7: appreciate it.

2203
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:40,400
Speaker 5: Guys. It was great talking to you.

2204
01:42:40,760 --> 01:42:41,760
Speaker 6: Are you going to the game?

2205
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:44,000
Speaker 1: I am, I am, I'm gonna.

2206
01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:47,400
Speaker 5: I've gotta yes. I was like, I've got to figure

2207
01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:49,519
Speaker 5: out a way you down there. So uh, so we are.

2208
01:42:50,439 --> 01:42:52,400
Speaker 7: I've tried to, Like I said, I'm coordinating with some

2209
01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:55,160
Speaker 7: some former teammates and their wives and we're all gonna

2210
01:42:55,400 --> 01:42:56,640
Speaker 7: we're all gonna get together and.

2211
01:42:56,800 --> 01:42:59,840
Speaker 5: Uh and uh and hope for one more, hope for

2212
01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:00,960
Speaker 5: one more to get it done?

2213
01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:03,320
Speaker 4: Was what some of your you know, back order n

2214
01:43:03,400 --> 01:43:06,400
Speaker 4: I l together and then put that towards the tickets

2215
01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:07,519
Speaker 4: that you got to get for the game.

2216
01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:09,439
Speaker 5: Well, here's the thing.

2217
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:13,920
Speaker 7: I've had so many former coaches and teammates reached out going,

2218
01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:14,400
Speaker 7: hey you got.

2219
01:43:14,320 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 5: The connect, Hey you got the Kennick.

2220
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:18,519
Speaker 7: I'm like, guys, if I had one hundred tickets, I

2221
01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:20,160
Speaker 7: wouldn't be able to fill them all with every you know,

2222
01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:24,280
Speaker 7: it's the university has been great with me, you know.

2223
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:28,080
Speaker 7: It's uh, yeah, I just I just can't get off.

2224
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:30,519
Speaker 7: I mean, obviously I'd love to help everybody and and

2225
01:43:31,040 --> 01:43:33,360
Speaker 7: you know, but it's, uh, it's the ticket.

2226
01:43:33,160 --> 01:43:36,160
Speaker 1: Is in demand, and rightfully, so we need Trent Green

2227
01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:38,800
Speaker 1: at the coin toss Monday night.

2228
01:43:39,520 --> 01:43:40,880
Speaker 6: Standing across from Ray Lewis.

2229
01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:44,880
Speaker 5: That's that's that's happened many times before.

2230
01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:47,160
Speaker 1: That's Pray.

2231
01:43:47,240 --> 01:43:49,880
Speaker 5: How that ended out, that's Ray. How that ended up.

2232
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:53,200
Speaker 1: I'm guessing not not the way Ray wanted it to.

2233
01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:55,800
Speaker 7: But here's the funny thing, though, is he likes getting

2234
01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:58,360
Speaker 7: up with the line of scrimmage and talking, so he uh,

2235
01:43:58,439 --> 01:44:00,800
Speaker 7: he would always come up and and I would never

2236
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:03,160
Speaker 7: make eye contact with him, and it would just irritate

2237
01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:04,880
Speaker 7: the hell out of him. So I would just kind

2238
01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:06,640
Speaker 7: of like move my head and like look around him,

2239
01:44:06,640 --> 01:44:07,880
Speaker 7: and he would try and get in a way to

2240
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:10,760
Speaker 7: make eye contact when he's in the line. And I

2241
01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:12,560
Speaker 7: did it on purpose because I knew how much it

2242
01:44:12,640 --> 01:44:16,280
Speaker 7: irritated him. But that's no right, Raid's obviously Hall of

2243
01:44:16,360 --> 01:44:19,240
Speaker 7: Famer and incredible, So yeah, it'll be, it'll be if

2244
01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:20,760
Speaker 7: I get the chance to catch up with him.

2245
01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:24,320
Speaker 5: I definitely will we we we had. We had a

2246
01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:25,479
Speaker 5: few battles over the years.

2247
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:28,360
Speaker 1: I'm taking is it wise to irritate Ray Lewis when

2248
01:44:28,360 --> 01:44:30,240
Speaker 1: he's on the other side of the line of scrimmage.

2249
01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:32,559
Speaker 7: When you're a quarterback, that's the only thing you can

2250
01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:34,240
Speaker 7: do is trying to annoy people like that.

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01:44:34,479 --> 01:44:36,080
Speaker 5: Right, It's not like I can go hit him. It's

2252
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:38,640
Speaker 5: not like I can run him over. It's uh, you know,

2253
01:44:38,760 --> 01:44:41,160
Speaker 5: you just try and you just try and have a

2254
01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:42,760
Speaker 5: little fun with him, or at least I did.

2255
01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:45,439
Speaker 1: Have fun on Monday nights. Is what you need to do.

2256
01:44:45,479 --> 01:44:46,760
Speaker 1: And we'll talk to you again soon, Trent.

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01:44:46,840 --> 01:44:48,840
Speaker 5: Thank you all right, sounds good. I appreciate you guys.

2258
01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:50,000
Speaker 5: Have a good one. Thank you. FRep.

2259
01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:52,840
Speaker 1: How cool is it you can hear the Christmas morning

2260
01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:54,040
Speaker 1: excitement in his voice?

2261
01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:55,200
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2262
01:44:55,240 --> 01:44:57,080
Speaker 4: I mean, the guy played in the peach Ball himself

2263
01:44:57,160 --> 01:44:59,720
Speaker 4: back in the day, But stake's a little bit different now.

2264
01:44:59,800 --> 01:45:02,400
Speaker 4: They this team's advanced in the National Championship, so it

2265
01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:03,559
Speaker 4: should be a great one down there.

2266
01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:03,920
Speaker 6: Miami.

2267
01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:06,320
Speaker 1: Yeah ninety one. I think they won the Copper Bowl.

2268
01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:07,120
Speaker 1: They had a.

2269
01:45:07,160 --> 01:45:10,840
Speaker 2: Shutout with their last Bowl one right until the Rose. Yeah, boy,

2270
01:45:10,920 --> 01:45:13,360
Speaker 2: that was giddy giddy from Trent Green to that he

2271
01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:14,920
Speaker 2: could have gone over the city of Bloomington. I think

2272
01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:17,679
Speaker 2: a time or two in retelling some of those stories.

2273
01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:19,760
Speaker 6: So about Buffle Louise.

2274
01:45:19,439 --> 01:45:20,880
Speaker 2: Baby Mark got nice work.

2275
01:45:20,920 --> 01:45:22,559
Speaker 1: That's your spot up there, so thank.

2276
01:45:22,439 --> 01:45:22,800
Speaker 5: You for that.

2277
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:25,240
Speaker 4: Mike, you amazing. I went to Buffalois up. Yeah, I've

2278
01:45:25,280 --> 01:45:28,439
Speaker 4: been a couple times now. That burger is always amazing.

2279
01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:32,320
Speaker 2: Trent Green's right, it's a Trent Green passed Tony Gonzalez

2280
01:45:32,360 --> 01:45:34,320
Speaker 2: away from the sample gates. I mean it was right

2281
01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:36,120
Speaker 2: there where it has moved to.

2282
01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:37,360
Speaker 1: So what was your hang up?

2283
01:45:37,360 --> 01:45:40,080
Speaker 2: I'm a feeling a lot of Bloomington establishments will be

2284
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 2: filled to the brim come Monday night. We actually did

2285
01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:44,320
Speaker 2: a radio show at Buffalouis back in the day there,

2286
01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:46,840
Speaker 2: so yes, many of those spots that he mentioned, certainly

2287
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:51,559
Speaker 2: a Bluebird Wednesday night or two upstairs obviously kil Roy's Sports.

2288
01:45:52,240 --> 01:45:56,519
Speaker 2: I lived right, I guess above the farm, which I

2289
01:45:56,560 --> 01:45:58,479
Speaker 2: know is an establishment A lot of people enjoy going

2290
01:45:58,520 --> 01:46:01,599
Speaker 2: to kind of a brunch spot. But lived on Kirkwood

2291
01:46:01,640 --> 01:46:04,120
Speaker 2: Junior and Senior year, and I have a feeling the

2292
01:46:04,160 --> 01:46:05,600
Speaker 2: liver will catch up to me at some point in

2293
01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:06,000
Speaker 2: my life.

2294
01:46:08,160 --> 01:46:10,120
Speaker 1: All right, Mark, let's check it down and get to

2295
01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:14,960
Speaker 1: the business of sports today the morning checkdout on ninety

2296
01:46:15,040 --> 01:46:17,720
Speaker 1: sweet five and one oh seven five the fan you

2297
01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:19,559
Speaker 1: may have heard, and in case you are aware, there

2298
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:22,320
Speaker 1: will be a football game of the college football variety

2299
01:46:22,439 --> 01:46:25,479
Speaker 1: Monday night in Miami at hard Rock Stadium. It'll be

2300
01:46:25,640 --> 01:46:29,759
Speaker 1: Indiana and Miami playing for the College Football Playoff National

2301
01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:30,840
Speaker 1: Championship Game.

2302
01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:32,320
Speaker 5: Wow.

2303
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:35,040
Speaker 1: And if you can't get there, hopefully you already got

2304
01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:38,240
Speaker 1: a ticket to Assembly Hall on Monday night. Those things

2305
01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:40,679
Speaker 1: probably went in a hurry if they got all seventeen

2306
01:46:40,720 --> 01:46:41,599
Speaker 1: thousand distributed.

2307
01:46:41,680 --> 01:46:44,439
Speaker 2: Kevin, we are less than three thousand dollars on the

2308
01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:45,559
Speaker 2: secondary ticket market.

2309
01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:49,800
Speaker 1: People. Oh, you're starting to think about it, am I. Yeah,

2310
01:46:49,960 --> 01:46:50,960
Speaker 1: well you're my boss.

2311
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:53,000
Speaker 2: Unless you've added something to the paycheck. I haven't seen

2312
01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:54,160
Speaker 2: it quite a while then.

2313
01:46:54,080 --> 01:46:56,560
Speaker 1: No, But if it was Notre Dame you'd find it.

2314
01:46:57,600 --> 01:46:59,120
Speaker 2: I caught up a limb, all right.

2315
01:46:59,520 --> 01:46:59,880
Speaker 1: Just check it.

2316
01:47:01,320 --> 01:47:03,680
Speaker 3: If you are local and can't get to Bloomington, the

2317
01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:06,200
Speaker 3: Fisher's Events Center is having a watch party as well.

2318
01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:10,599
Speaker 2: Now that is a very good viewing building to look

2319
01:47:10,680 --> 01:47:13,000
Speaker 2: at a jumbo tron there some way, all fun I

2320
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:15,599
Speaker 2: don't know about that, but yes, the Fisher's Event Center, Yes.

2321
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:19,360
Speaker 1: That might be fun actually all right, so anyway that

2322
01:47:19,400 --> 01:47:22,439
Speaker 1: comes your way. Monday night airtime six thirty with Don

2323
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:26,559
Speaker 1: Fisher and crew over on WIBC ninety three point one FM.

2324
01:47:26,600 --> 01:47:28,439
Speaker 1: And then of course they'll have the game. We'll have

2325
01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:31,960
Speaker 1: the Pacers that night. The Pacers will be at home tonight,

2326
01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:33,360
Speaker 1: and you can hear that one on ninety three five

2327
01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:35,960
Speaker 1: and one O seven five the fan again. Kevin looking

2328
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:39,320
Speaker 1: for a fourth straight win after that double digit losing streak.

2329
01:47:39,439 --> 01:47:42,200
Speaker 1: So they'll be taking on the Raptors tonight six thirty

2330
01:47:42,240 --> 01:47:46,559
Speaker 1: yeartimes seven o'clock tip, why not go for another win tonight?

2331
01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:50,200
Speaker 2: A slight underdog at home here, I believe urj Barrett

2332
01:47:50,240 --> 01:47:53,280
Speaker 2: Yaco pearl out for the Toronto Raptors. But yeah, three

2333
01:47:53,320 --> 01:47:55,479
Speaker 2: in a row here for the Pacers. They'll be at

2334
01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:58,880
Speaker 2: home again with the Pelicans on Friday. We did see

2335
01:47:59,080 --> 01:48:02,639
Speaker 2: yesterday the to minute report came out of the win

2336
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:06,920
Speaker 2: over the Celtics. Joe Mizula's two words of illegal screen.

2337
01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:10,519
Speaker 2: Yes he was right on that call. But Rick Carlile's

2338
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:12,160
Speaker 2: message for Joe Missoula.

2339
01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:12,760
Speaker 5: He'll get over it.

2340
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:15,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll have to because all you get to a

2341
01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:18,840
Speaker 1: two minute report, he'll get over it.

2342
01:48:19,080 --> 01:48:20,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love it.

2343
01:48:20,720 --> 01:48:22,519
Speaker 2: I need to use that more often in my life.

2344
01:48:22,560 --> 01:48:24,799
Speaker 1: All right, So pacers at home tonight at the Fieldhouse.

2345
01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:26,439
Speaker 2: I added that, and maybe send it to Maddie next

2346
01:48:26,439 --> 01:48:29,000
Speaker 2: time I disagree with her on something. I wouldn't do

2347
01:48:29,080 --> 01:48:31,080
Speaker 2: that once, get over or would you say that's bad business?

2348
01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:31,920
Speaker 1: You can do that once.

2349
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:34,120
Speaker 6: I would just like you to come here without a

2350
01:48:34,160 --> 01:48:34,559
Speaker 6: black eye.

2351
01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:38,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll pick out your tombstone. Or when I walk in,

2352
01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:40,439
Speaker 2: Williams goes black eye Marco six feet on there.

2353
01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:42,760
Speaker 1: When Mark and I walk in here early in the morning,

2354
01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:45,280
Speaker 1: don't play Mark. Can you imagine you and I walking

2355
01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:46,920
Speaker 1: in early in the morning. Kevin's sleeping over in the

2356
01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:47,960
Speaker 1: corner of the studio there.

2357
01:48:48,360 --> 01:48:50,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, so nice pajama pants, Kevin.

2358
01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:56,720
Speaker 1: Also tonight college basketball this evening got a couple of

2359
01:48:56,760 --> 01:48:58,920
Speaker 1: games perdue. We'll be at home to take on Iowa.

2360
01:48:59,000 --> 01:49:01,559
Speaker 1: That's when it sick thirty up at Mackie and Butler's

2361
01:49:01,600 --> 01:49:04,880
Speaker 1: on the road. They'll plays Xavier tonight at six thirty.

2362
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:08,000
Speaker 1: Last night, college basketball Hoosiers were tied up with Michigan

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Speaker 1: State on the Road with eleven minutes to go, but

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Speaker 1: then it all went sideways. They end up losing eighty

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Speaker 1: one to sixty. Lamar Wilkerson did have nineteen points, but

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Speaker 1: they went through a or off five and a half

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Speaker 1: minute stretch there in the middle of that second half.

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Speaker 4: James, Yeah, Michigan State turn up. The defense didn't score

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Speaker 4: there for several minutes, and you see why the Spartans

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Speaker 4: on are on one level and the Hoosiers on a

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01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:33,760
Speaker 4: different level, a level that probably will not allow him

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Speaker 4: against the NCAA tournament that they're not able to stack

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Speaker 4: some wins here in Big Ten play.

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Speaker 1: They we'll play again against Iowa at home assembly. That'll

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Speaker 1: be a two pm on Saturday afternoon, again the Big

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Speaker 1: stat and I looked through the box score of that

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Speaker 1: game last night. Hoosiers out rebounded thirty three to sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Although Tomas did say before the game he was just

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Speaker 1: glad he wasn't playing Kurt Signetty in Indiana football, so

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Speaker 1: even he's getting into it.

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Speaker 2: Did that was idea? Was hilarious quote, Did I fans

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Speaker 2: sacrifice the men's basketball program for the football program? Would

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Speaker 2: you would you take that as a fan? Would you

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01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:11,000
Speaker 2: if you're an IU fan, would you right now sign

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01:50:11,120 --> 01:50:14,320
Speaker 2: up for IU basketball reverts to IU football, and IU

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Speaker 2: football becomes old school A.

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Speaker 1: You bet, but you can't have both.

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Speaker 2: You can't have both.

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Speaker 1: You have to pick.

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Speaker 4: So you basically have to be terrible in basketball for

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Speaker 4: the next twenty years to win national championship.

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Speaker 2: But football lives and thrives. I take that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've already had your running basketball, so let's go

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Speaker 1: football right.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 4: If you want to be a little greedy like most are,

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Speaker 4: probably like I don't have to choose Kevin the first

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Speaker 4: year Darren de.

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Speaker 2: Freeze, No, certainly, and you know again, I'm not actually

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01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:43,960
Speaker 2: Darren de freezere obviously is a failure by any means

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Speaker 2: this season. I wouldn't say it's going to according to plan,

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01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:49,320
Speaker 2: though you mentioned the games tonight. That's big for Butler.

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01:50:49,479 --> 01:50:53,920
Speaker 2: Butler badly needs the road win at Xavier after squandering two,

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01:50:55,600 --> 01:50:59,719
Speaker 2: you know, big opportunities at home last week and prettue Iowa.

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Speaker 2: Those two teams meet, I feel like it can oftentimes

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Speaker 2: be first one to one hundred. Granted, this Iowa team

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01:51:05,160 --> 01:51:08,280
Speaker 2: under Ben McCollum, they grind it out. So Bennett Startz

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01:51:08,360 --> 01:51:10,439
Speaker 2: came over from Drake. It's been a nice I think

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Speaker 2: start for Iowa, and I've lost a couple here recently,

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01:51:12,640 --> 01:51:14,880
Speaker 2: but Perdue is going to start a stretch here, a

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01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:18,320
Speaker 2: lot of big, big games in the Big Ten, obviously

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01:51:18,400 --> 01:51:20,639
Speaker 2: five and though start so far from Matt Painter's bunch.

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Speaker 1: All right, Notre Dame's got a brand new kicker. Do

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01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:23,639
Speaker 1: you see that yesterday?

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Speaker 2: Kevin Brownsburg's finest spencer Porath.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, he's going to transfer from Purdue to Notre Dame.

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01:51:30,840 --> 01:51:33,040
Speaker 1: So you'll have a brand new kicker from Brownsburg next year.

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01:51:33,120 --> 01:51:37,320
Speaker 2: And Notre Dame's kicking issues last season, We're an absolute disaster,

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01:51:37,680 --> 01:51:40,360
Speaker 2: probably cost him, honestly a spot in the playoff.

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Speaker 1: Anything else you guys want to throw in before we

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Speaker 1: head off to break?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Do want to give a shout out here locally one

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Speaker 2: of my former students, the Ben Davis product. Shout out

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Speaker 2: to Design Brown. He will be your new motor sports

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01:51:52,720 --> 01:51:56,680
Speaker 2: rider over at the Indianapolis Star. I think that's one

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Speaker 2: of the more important beats over there, Ethan Brown, you

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01:52:00,720 --> 01:52:03,000
Speaker 2: used to previously, he hold it. He took over for

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01:52:03,120 --> 01:52:06,400
Speaker 2: Nate Atkins when Nate left the Colts beat to cover

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Speaker 2: the Rams he's now James colleague for the athletic Zion

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01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:13,120
Speaker 2: is a great, great individual. The man works as you

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Speaker 2: know what. Off produced a lot of great work when

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Speaker 2: he was at Indiana and has been at the Indie

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Speaker 2: Star a little bit in a capacity here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, over the last year.

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Speaker 2: So and just graduated, graduated last May from Indiana. So

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Speaker 2: shout out to Zion Brow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I would took Zion often that he was in school

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Speaker 4: for like eight years because I thought he was always

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01:52:29,800 --> 01:52:31,439
Speaker 4: older than what he was because of the work and

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01:52:31,479 --> 01:52:32,760
Speaker 4: the professionalism and stuff like that.

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Speaker 6: So congrats to him.

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01:52:34,360 --> 01:52:36,599
Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to his reading his work and learning

2445
01:52:36,640 --> 01:52:38,760
Speaker 4: more about motorsports because of that young man.

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Speaker 1: All Right, that's what's happening in the world of sports.

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Speaker 1: Coming up at a minute, we'll talk more Indiana Hoosiers

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01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:46,840
Speaker 1: getting ready for a college football playoff national championship game,

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01:52:46,880 --> 01:52:50,000
Speaker 1: and some thoughts on coaching vacancies and the colts coming

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01:52:50,080 --> 01:52:51,800
Speaker 1: up as we continue in ninety three five and one

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Speaker 1: on seven five The Fans, Happy Wednesday Morning. It's the

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Speaker 1: Fan Morning Show, ninety three five, one on seven five

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Speaker 1: The Fan, James Boyd, Kevin Bowen, Mark diked in in

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01:53:01,760 --> 01:53:04,799
Speaker 1: Today and Mark looking forward to your next playoff stop.

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01:53:06,120 --> 01:53:08,760
Speaker 1: Cold for the Bears, Cold for the Bears and the

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01:53:08,800 --> 01:53:09,639
Speaker 1: Rams this weekend.

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01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:12,320
Speaker 2: Good, let's make it really cold.

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01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:14,600
Speaker 1: And now do you have a specific spot that you

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01:53:14,720 --> 01:53:16,680
Speaker 1: sit in during playoff games at home?

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Speaker 2: I didn't really sit down on Saturday. I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 3: I was standing up, pacing around. Drendone was flowing some

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01:53:24,160 --> 01:53:26,040
Speaker 3: of the boys. On Monday, it was like a dopamine

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01:53:26,120 --> 01:53:28,240
Speaker 3: hit without the drugs. Because I went to I couldn't

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01:53:28,280 --> 01:53:29,360
Speaker 3: go to sleep. I think it was up till like

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Speaker 3: three point thirty in the morning, just listening and watching

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Speaker 3: everything I possibly could. So yeah, I was emotionally exhausted

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Speaker 3: on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: This it was like Kevin Bowen getting ready for a

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame basketball game. Mm hmm, yeah, that's.

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Speaker 3: Definitely the same Bears Packers in the playoffs and Kevin's

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Speaker 3: Notre Dame basketball.

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Speaker 1: Well, it could be a boy.

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Speaker 2: It seems like an unwarned shot. I'm going to venture

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01:53:50,280 --> 01:53:51,880
Speaker 2: to guests, Notre Dame basketball has had a little bit

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01:53:51,920 --> 01:53:54,200
Speaker 2: more success over the last ten to fifteen years than

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Speaker 2: your pathetic Bears. Okay, how'd they do against Miami last night?

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Speaker 2: I really want to get into this debate if I'm sure.

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Speaker 3: And the ref are going to be the least of

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Speaker 3: your issues, Kevin, let's call them down here.

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01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:05,599
Speaker 2: I'm afraid that ref broke the season.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, let's.

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01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:11,479
Speaker 2: See Mark, first time in sixteen years, we have four

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01:54:12,040 --> 01:54:19,920
Speaker 2: different teams hosting divisional games. So our hosts are Chicago, Seattle,

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01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:25,479
Speaker 2: New England, and Denver, first time in sixteen years. None

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01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:27,120
Speaker 2: of them are the same. And if you want to

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01:54:27,120 --> 01:54:30,160
Speaker 2: look further than that, the Bears, the Patriots, the Seahawks,

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01:54:30,200 --> 01:54:31,640
Speaker 2: they didn't even make the playoffs last year.

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01:54:32,640 --> 01:54:33,720
Speaker 1: It's the beauty of the NFL.

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01:54:33,920 --> 01:54:36,120
Speaker 2: Is that cold optimism for twenty twenty six gotta be?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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01:54:37,640 --> 01:54:39,160
Speaker 6: I guess so it's gotta be. I think it's more

2492
01:54:39,240 --> 01:54:41,160
Speaker 6: so like NFL parody, but we'll see.

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01:54:41,760 --> 01:54:43,680
Speaker 2: I can't wait for Broncos Bills. I just think the

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01:54:43,800 --> 01:54:47,400
Speaker 2: Josh Allen angle to it. All that defense they set

2495
01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:49,360
Speaker 2: and this is not just their defense, but they set

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01:54:49,360 --> 01:54:51,720
Speaker 2: an NFL record this year for sack differential. It's like

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01:54:51,800 --> 01:54:54,640
Speaker 2: plus forty five or six. Obviously their defense a big

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01:54:54,680 --> 01:54:57,440
Speaker 2: part of that, James, but bo Knicks also didn't get

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01:54:57,480 --> 01:54:59,360
Speaker 2: sacked a whole lot, And like, again, what's bo Nicks

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Speaker 2: on this stage, you know. I mean, that's kind of

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01:55:01,240 --> 01:55:03,560
Speaker 2: a question we start to have last year, albeit his

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01:55:03,640 --> 01:55:06,920
Speaker 2: first game, first playoff game in Buffalo, the Bills kicked.

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Speaker 1: Their ass thirty one to seven, So I did not

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Speaker 1: have a good time that game.

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Speaker 2: I think I might circle on the old four games

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01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:16,600
Speaker 2: of the divisional slate, does it not? Yeah, that's the

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Speaker 2: four thirty one yep.

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Speaker 6: I'll say this too.

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Speaker 4: When you look at just Josh Allen in general, I mean,

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01:55:23,440 --> 01:55:25,800
Speaker 4: nobody's doubting that he's probably out one hundred percent right now.

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01:55:25,960 --> 01:55:31,200
Speaker 4: But his ability to always find a way, it's pretty remarkable,

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Speaker 4: and it's kind of a redeeming quality for him considering

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01:55:33,720 --> 01:55:35,040
Speaker 4: that fan base, that city.

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Speaker 6: They haven't won anything, Like here's the battered brew Star

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01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:39,280
Speaker 6: trying to get it done.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of like movie esque in a sense, and

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Speaker 4: I just wonder, can't he get it done? And I

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01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:47,000
Speaker 4: listened to a piece I want to say it was

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01:55:47,080 --> 01:55:50,800
Speaker 4: Jeff Darlington, great piece for ESPN. He did like a

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Speaker 4: short video story on legacies, and he was talking about

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01:55:54,640 --> 01:55:58,960
Speaker 4: how the context gets lost years from now, like we

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01:55:59,000 --> 01:56:01,040
Speaker 4: won't look back if they to the Broncos. And he

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01:56:01,160 --> 01:56:04,560
Speaker 4: has four total touchdowns, no turnovers, and they lose. We

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01:56:04,600 --> 01:56:08,240
Speaker 4: won't look back and say, oh, man, like that was

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01:56:09,320 --> 01:56:11,120
Speaker 4: the year that XYZ happened.

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Speaker 6: They didn't win it. It's either you won it or

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01:56:12,680 --> 01:56:13,080
Speaker 6: you didn't.

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01:56:13,760 --> 01:56:18,200
Speaker 4: And it feels kind of bogus to always reduce legacies

2529
01:56:18,400 --> 01:56:19,560
Speaker 4: and great players to that.

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01:56:19,720 --> 01:56:21,200
Speaker 6: But boy, that's why we remember them.

2531
01:56:21,320 --> 01:56:24,800
Speaker 4: I mean, if you look at Tom Brady, how many

2532
01:56:24,840 --> 01:56:27,240
Speaker 4: of his rings that we counted the seven Super Bowls

2533
01:56:27,240 --> 01:56:28,400
Speaker 4: were decided by a kick.

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Speaker 6: I mean, that's the the painful beauty of sports.

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01:56:32,680 --> 01:56:34,600
Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to this weekend because of that, and

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01:56:34,640 --> 01:56:37,600
Speaker 4: I think football offers that more than any other because

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01:56:37,640 --> 01:56:40,720
Speaker 4: of it being a one game elimination. Again, how finnicky

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01:56:40,920 --> 01:56:44,080
Speaker 4: defenses can be, and kicking and all these different factors,

2539
01:56:44,400 --> 01:56:46,360
Speaker 4: but ultimately it comes down to can't get it done

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01:56:46,440 --> 01:56:48,760
Speaker 4: and for that city, which just they've been through so

2541
01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:49,400
Speaker 4: much pain.

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Speaker 1: You know, especially you bring up Josh Allen in this

2543
01:56:52,720 --> 01:56:54,360
Speaker 1: kickstart tis in my head because I had just had

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01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:57,640
Speaker 1: the conversation on Saturday with Bill Pollion. I was asking

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01:56:57,680 --> 01:57:00,120
Speaker 1: Bill Pollying what he thought of the NFL chances of

2546
01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:03,240
Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza, and he gave a comp to said the

2547
01:57:03,400 --> 01:57:06,400
Speaker 1: arm's not as strong, but he gave a Josh Allen

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01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:08,960
Speaker 1: comp and he goes, you watch he is going to

2549
01:57:09,160 --> 01:57:12,400
Speaker 1: blow he thinks. Bill Pollion said, he thinks that Fernando

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01:57:12,440 --> 01:57:15,400
Speaker 1: Mendoza is going to blow scouts away at the combine

2551
01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:17,840
Speaker 1: with his athletic ability and going through some of the

2552
01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:21,320
Speaker 1: drills there, They're all going to go, oh oh, I

2553
01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:24,320
Speaker 1: get it. So it'll be interesting to see what that happens,

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01:57:24,840 --> 01:57:27,120
Speaker 1: what that happens. But yeah, he said, arms not quite

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01:57:27,160 --> 01:57:29,360
Speaker 1: as strong as Josh Allen, but he could see him

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01:57:29,400 --> 01:57:31,960
Speaker 1: being a Josh Allen type quarterback in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I don't really see that, to be totally honest with you,

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01:57:35,320 --> 01:57:37,080
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, Bernano Mendoza coNP.

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Speaker 1: I think he was just talking about the athletic ability

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01:57:39,200 --> 01:57:42,120
Speaker 1: that he says. Fernando Mendoza is gonna people are gonna

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01:57:42,120 --> 01:57:44,560
Speaker 1: start recognizing at the combine that he is really an athletic.

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01:57:44,960 --> 01:57:46,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess, let me be clear, I think

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01:57:46,400 --> 01:57:48,680
Speaker 2: Mendoza is a very very good quarterback, and I do

2564
01:57:48,840 --> 01:57:51,840
Speaker 2: think he's able to, in his own unique manner, make

2565
01:57:51,880 --> 01:57:54,080
Speaker 2: plays with his legs. But I don't see Josh Allen.

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01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:58,680
Speaker 1: Similar. I think they're just looking similar size. Again, I'm

2567
01:57:58,720 --> 01:58:02,680
Speaker 1: just telling this again. Conversation Bill Pollion, Bill Poullion. I

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01:58:02,800 --> 01:58:05,400
Speaker 1: love your brother, but I just think Alan I think.

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01:58:05,480 --> 01:58:07,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to take his words of context. He

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01:58:07,400 --> 01:58:09,920
Speaker 1: was just talking about the athletic ability and that they

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01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:11,000
Speaker 1: are going to be surprised.

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01:58:11,120 --> 01:58:14,040
Speaker 2: I just think they look different playing quarterback. They each

2573
01:58:14,080 --> 01:58:16,280
Speaker 2: are very effective. Again, I want to be clear on this,

2574
01:58:16,720 --> 01:58:20,360
Speaker 2: but I don't see Yeah. I don't look at Mendoza's

2575
01:58:20,360 --> 01:58:25,400
Speaker 2: game and think Josh Allen stylistically. Now, Honestly, I think

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01:58:25,760 --> 01:58:27,400
Speaker 2: one of the amazing things about Alan is how he

2577
01:58:27,520 --> 01:58:30,640
Speaker 2: just doesn't get hurt like yeah.

2578
01:58:30,680 --> 01:58:34,120
Speaker 4: I mean, for example, I'm not picturing Frananda Mendoza being

2579
01:58:34,160 --> 01:58:35,960
Speaker 4: a part of like the touch push a lot in

2580
01:58:36,040 --> 01:58:36,800
Speaker 4: his NFL career.

2581
01:58:38,440 --> 01:58:40,600
Speaker 1: Do we forget the Dudeh's six foot five inches tall.

2582
01:58:40,680 --> 01:58:41,440
Speaker 1: He's a big dude.

2583
01:58:41,880 --> 01:58:44,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he doesn't I don't necessarily like he played

2584
01:58:44,160 --> 01:58:46,760
Speaker 2: like Josh Allen plays like a tight end playing quarterback

2585
01:58:46,760 --> 01:58:49,080
Speaker 2: almost or looks like it. I I view Mendoza. I

2586
01:58:49,120 --> 01:58:52,400
Speaker 2: think Mindoza can have a long, long career because I

2587
01:58:52,560 --> 01:58:54,640
Speaker 2: see him much more of a I'm going to deliver

2588
01:58:54,720 --> 01:58:56,600
Speaker 2: from the pocket routinely.

2589
01:58:58,200 --> 01:59:01,040
Speaker 1: Again, I don't want to misconstrue what what Bill Polly

2590
01:59:01,160 --> 01:59:04,960
Speaker 1: was saying. His basic point was athletically, people don't quite

2591
01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:07,560
Speaker 1: give him the credit that he deserves. That he's and

2592
01:59:07,640 --> 01:59:09,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna see that at the combine, is his point.

2593
01:59:10,320 --> 01:59:11,960
Speaker 1: This is a really athletic dude.

2594
01:59:12,760 --> 01:59:13,480
Speaker 5: That was his point.

2595
01:59:14,280 --> 01:59:16,960
Speaker 1: So look forward to seeing how Monday Night turns out.

2596
01:59:16,960 --> 01:59:18,400
Speaker 1: And I look forward to seeing how it all turns

2597
01:59:18,400 --> 01:59:20,440
Speaker 1: out for him in the National Football because you hear

2598
01:59:20,440 --> 01:59:22,280
Speaker 1: Trent Green talking about him just a moment ago two

2599
01:59:22,320 --> 01:59:27,400
Speaker 1: all the boxes that he checks, and so the more

2600
01:59:27,440 --> 01:59:30,240
Speaker 1: I watch him, the more I think, I think this

2601
01:59:30,320 --> 01:59:32,440
Speaker 1: guy's going to be a really good NFL quarterback, Kevin

2602
01:59:33,320 --> 01:59:34,560
Speaker 1: I really do. Yeah.

2603
01:59:34,600 --> 01:59:36,240
Speaker 2: I mean I don't think that's her shadowing. I mean,

2604
01:59:36,240 --> 01:59:38,160
Speaker 2: he's probably gonna be number one overall pick right, I

2605
01:59:38,200 --> 01:59:40,560
Speaker 2: mean we're not. There's no way Dante Moore is still

2606
01:59:40,560 --> 01:59:42,680
Speaker 2: being considered. I guess Dante Moore's got a declare right,

2607
01:59:42,800 --> 01:59:45,240
Speaker 2: isn't today the I believe today's the deadline if you're

2608
01:59:45,240 --> 01:59:48,600
Speaker 2: not in the game, Yeah, and didn't the if you're

2609
01:59:48,600 --> 01:59:51,360
Speaker 2: not in the National title game, Nebraska quarterback.

2610
01:59:50,960 --> 01:59:54,240
Speaker 4: I'm blanking on the name transferred to Oregon Mahomes looking

2611
01:59:54,320 --> 01:59:57,480
Speaker 4: like h real. So I don't think you make that.

2612
01:59:57,600 --> 02:00:00,120
Speaker 6: Move you're him. If you're not certain that Dante More

2613
02:00:00,200 --> 02:00:00,800
Speaker 6: is probably.

2614
02:00:01,400 --> 02:00:04,840
Speaker 2: High Simpson number that was thrown out there for him,

2615
02:00:05,000 --> 02:00:06,520
Speaker 2: like what Miami and Old Miss were offering.

2616
02:00:06,800 --> 02:00:07,520
Speaker 6: I did not see that.

2617
02:00:07,760 --> 02:00:10,400
Speaker 2: I correct me if I'm wrong, Jeff, because you're you're

2618
02:00:10,440 --> 02:00:12,520
Speaker 2: not in your head and Mark feel free to look

2619
02:00:12,560 --> 02:00:14,920
Speaker 2: it up. Did I see like six This is what

2620
02:00:15,040 --> 02:00:19,200
Speaker 2: I saw six six million to try and get Ty

2621
02:00:19,320 --> 02:00:22,000
Speaker 2: Simpson to either go to Miami or to Old Mess

2622
02:00:22,440 --> 02:00:24,440
Speaker 2: And it sounds like he is staying in the NFL

2623
02:00:24,520 --> 02:00:26,400
Speaker 2: draft Ty Simpson.

2624
02:00:27,120 --> 02:00:28,920
Speaker 1: If I was making six million dollars, I'd want to

2625
02:00:28,920 --> 02:00:30,240
Speaker 1: stay in college for one more year.

2626
02:00:30,680 --> 02:00:31,000
Speaker 5: James.

2627
02:00:31,840 --> 02:00:34,280
Speaker 2: Remind me again, when did Anthony Richardson hit six million

2628
02:00:34,320 --> 02:00:36,120
Speaker 2: on his rookie contract. I get it's just one year,

2629
02:00:36,280 --> 02:00:40,760
Speaker 2: but like that's I mean, that's big tom money right there.

2630
02:00:41,080 --> 02:00:43,640
Speaker 4: That is big time money for a guy who is

2631
02:00:43,840 --> 02:00:47,640
Speaker 4: not in the shoes of Anthony Richardson, where when he

2632
02:00:47,800 --> 02:00:49,600
Speaker 4: was coming out it was a four gone conclusion because

2633
02:00:49,600 --> 02:00:51,680
Speaker 4: you're a top five pick, the money's fully guaranteed. It's

2634
02:00:51,720 --> 02:00:52,360
Speaker 4: just totally different.

2635
02:00:52,360 --> 02:00:53,960
Speaker 2: I ain't drafting Ty Simpson in the top five.

2636
02:00:54,200 --> 02:00:57,040
Speaker 4: Yeah no, But I mean, I guess good on him

2637
02:00:57,160 --> 02:01:00,240
Speaker 4: for recognizing, Hey, I'm ready for a new chapter. He's

2638
02:01:00,320 --> 02:01:01,960
Speaker 4: already made a ton of money, you know. Can you

2639
02:01:02,000 --> 02:01:04,800
Speaker 4: make those decisions? I guess after making some millions down

2640
02:01:04,880 --> 02:01:05,680
Speaker 4: there in Alabama?

2641
02:01:05,840 --> 02:01:07,560
Speaker 6: But boy, yeah, times.

2642
02:01:07,320 --> 02:01:11,320
Speaker 1: Are just different, man, But don't you love them.

2643
02:01:11,960 --> 02:01:14,480
Speaker 2: That's the truest statement you've ever made. And Kurtzygnetty's been,

2644
02:01:14,520 --> 02:01:16,520
Speaker 2: I think, very honest about this. He's like, if I

2645
02:01:16,600 --> 02:01:18,320
Speaker 2: took this job five or six years ago, we're not

2646
02:01:18,480 --> 02:01:21,040
Speaker 2: doing this. We're not able to do it. And I

2647
02:01:21,120 --> 02:01:22,960
Speaker 2: think there is a little bit of misconception of the

2648
02:01:23,000 --> 02:01:29,440
Speaker 2: Indiana story is people immediately point to portal plus money.

2649
02:01:29,680 --> 02:01:33,800
Speaker 2: Portal certainly helped, But that first year team, last year's

2650
02:01:33,800 --> 02:01:39,280
Speaker 2: team that was still mostly JMU dudes and a Matt

2651
02:01:39,400 --> 02:01:43,920
Speaker 2: quarterback like Mendoza made what nearly three million and transfer

2652
02:01:43,960 --> 02:01:45,920
Speaker 2: in there. That was big money. Last year. Obviously it's

2653
02:01:45,960 --> 02:01:48,960
Speaker 2: gone up, but like that first year especially and even

2654
02:01:49,000 --> 02:01:51,320
Speaker 2: this year, I mean, we're still talking about dudes from

2655
02:01:51,440 --> 02:01:54,960
Speaker 2: James Madison, Texas State Navy. Like it's not like they have,

2656
02:01:55,520 --> 02:01:57,560
Speaker 2: you know, had the embarrassment of riches that maybe some

2657
02:01:57,720 --> 02:01:59,840
Speaker 2: of you know, next year's portal class has got a

2658
02:02:00,000 --> 02:02:02,240
Speaker 2: little bit more of that just yet. I think that's

2659
02:02:02,280 --> 02:02:03,800
Speaker 2: a little bit of the national misconception.

2660
02:02:04,160 --> 02:02:07,160
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and I think to piggyback off that point, the

2661
02:02:07,280 --> 02:02:13,800
Speaker 4: ability to identify talent over stars, over rankings has helped

2662
02:02:13,840 --> 02:02:16,800
Speaker 4: this team become what they are because, I mean, to

2663
02:02:17,200 --> 02:02:19,720
Speaker 4: Signetti's credit and his recruiters and the rest of his staff,

2664
02:02:20,360 --> 02:02:23,920
Speaker 4: they found dudes. Their scouting department has been remarkable, and

2665
02:02:24,000 --> 02:02:26,400
Speaker 4: not again, not just the past couple of years getting

2666
02:02:26,440 --> 02:02:28,640
Speaker 4: Fromana Mendoza, but it's been.

2667
02:02:29,160 --> 02:02:31,120
Speaker 6: The years leading up to before you even came to IU.

2668
02:02:31,360 --> 02:02:33,440
Speaker 4: Like you said, the jam, you guys, these guys can play,

2669
02:02:33,920 --> 02:02:36,680
Speaker 4: and you're looking at some of them, I mean Theaily

2670
02:02:36,720 --> 02:02:38,440
Speaker 4: planned on Sundays. I'm not saying that all of them,

2671
02:02:38,520 --> 02:02:40,520
Speaker 4: but some of them are so good. I think they've

2672
02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:43,440
Speaker 4: kind of proven themselves at this point to where NFL

2673
02:02:43,480 --> 02:02:45,160
Speaker 4: teams have to go a wait a second, that guy

2674
02:02:45,240 --> 02:02:47,640
Speaker 4: that we knew nothing about three years ago, he might

2675
02:02:47,680 --> 02:02:49,560
Speaker 4: can help us when it comes to trying to win

2676
02:02:49,600 --> 02:02:51,920
Speaker 4: a divisional game a few months from now.

2677
02:02:52,000 --> 02:02:52,240
Speaker 5: Whatever.

2678
02:02:52,400 --> 02:02:53,960
Speaker 2: Well, maybe in Mark Bay we can go back to

2679
02:02:54,040 --> 02:02:57,000
Speaker 2: that Rick Carlisle clip tomorrow on the show about Kurt Signetti.

2680
02:02:57,000 --> 02:02:59,360
Speaker 2: Actually thought Rick had a lot of good points about

2681
02:02:59,440 --> 02:03:02,440
Speaker 2: Signetti and what he's built, and obviously recommentioned the production

2682
02:03:02,600 --> 02:03:06,560
Speaker 2: over potential, but then he also got into the business

2683
02:03:07,400 --> 02:03:10,160
Speaker 2: man that Kurt Signetti is. I don't think you hear

2684
02:03:10,200 --> 02:03:13,160
Speaker 2: too many coaches references that. But you know, Indiana does

2685
02:03:13,240 --> 02:03:16,360
Speaker 2: not have this front facing general manager down there. You know,

2686
02:03:16,400 --> 02:03:19,120
Speaker 2: whether it's Oklahoma or Jim Naggy, whether it's Notre Dame

2687
02:03:19,160 --> 02:03:21,800
Speaker 2: with Mike Martin, whether it's cal with Ron Rivera, whether

2688
02:03:21,840 --> 02:03:23,760
Speaker 2: it's Stanford with Andrew Luck. There are a lot of

2689
02:03:23,840 --> 02:03:27,680
Speaker 2: these gms that have taken on bigger roles with college

2690
02:03:27,720 --> 02:03:32,560
Speaker 2: football programs. Yeah, the GM in Bloomington, the mayor of Bloomington, hell,

2691
02:03:32,640 --> 02:03:35,600
Speaker 2: the governor of the state of Indiana. It's General Kurtzignetti.

2692
02:03:36,200 --> 02:03:39,800
Speaker 4: And one more point on Signetti what I do enjoy

2693
02:03:39,840 --> 02:03:42,600
Speaker 4: and like you said, Kevin, he is embraced just the

2694
02:03:42,680 --> 02:03:46,840
Speaker 4: newness of nil and not shine away from the transfer portal.

2695
02:03:47,320 --> 02:03:49,720
Speaker 4: Because I look at someone like Dabbo Sweeney and Clemson

2696
02:03:49,840 --> 02:03:52,960
Speaker 4: and I'm like, boy, your program has fallen off because

2697
02:03:53,000 --> 02:03:56,240
Speaker 4: you were too slow to change. He was doing hard

2698
02:03:56,280 --> 02:03:57,960
Speaker 4: this year, though you know well it took him a

2699
02:03:58,040 --> 02:04:02,440
Speaker 4: long time, which is a very good point to me. Yeah,

2700
02:04:02,480 --> 02:04:04,360
Speaker 4: because I mean Davil Sweeney at one point was saying,

2701
02:04:04,400 --> 02:04:07,880
Speaker 4: you know, well, our nil is you know, our name, image.

2702
02:04:07,680 --> 02:04:10,360
Speaker 6: Likeness is Jesus and God. And I'm like, brother, you

2703
02:04:10,480 --> 02:04:13,600
Speaker 6: better start talking to God about paying these players to

2704
02:04:13,600 --> 02:04:14,760
Speaker 6: get some chans for portal.

2705
02:04:15,040 --> 02:04:17,880
Speaker 2: We need guardrails. Yes, but he has also said show

2706
02:04:17,920 --> 02:04:19,440
Speaker 2: me the rules and I'll play by them. Unto the

2707
02:04:19,480 --> 02:04:20,360
Speaker 2: rules show exactly.

2708
02:04:20,480 --> 02:04:23,840
Speaker 4: And I think not being so stubborn and what's quote

2709
02:04:23,920 --> 02:04:27,040
Speaker 4: unquote right has helped him turn that program around a

2710
02:04:27,080 --> 02:04:28,840
Speaker 4: lot quicker because you're, just like you said, played by

2711
02:04:28,840 --> 02:04:30,800
Speaker 4: the rules that are given to you and playing them

2712
02:04:30,920 --> 02:04:31,240
Speaker 4: very well.

2713
02:04:31,800 --> 02:04:34,080
Speaker 1: Coming up at a moment, we'll get some final thoughts

2714
02:04:34,160 --> 02:04:35,840
Speaker 1: and what the boys will be doing a little bit

2715
02:04:35,920 --> 02:04:38,800
Speaker 1: later on tonight. Also any thoughts that you might have

2716
02:04:38,880 --> 02:04:41,000
Speaker 1: at two, three, nine, ten seventy on the fan text line,

2717
02:04:41,000 --> 02:04:42,640
Speaker 1: you can have a last word as we continue on

2718
02:04:42,720 --> 02:04:44,240
Speaker 1: ninety three five and one. I was seven five the

2719
02:04:44,320 --> 02:04:48,240
Speaker 1: fan got a lot of college basketball on tap tonight.

2720
02:04:48,840 --> 02:04:52,720
Speaker 1: You watching Butler Xavier, Iowa Purdue.

2721
02:04:52,880 --> 02:04:56,600
Speaker 4: I hit up I think the county tournament's going on

2722
02:04:56,800 --> 02:05:00,200
Speaker 4: right now for Marion County, so I might try to

2723
02:05:00,320 --> 02:05:02,960
Speaker 4: hit that up later tonight after I do some other

2724
02:05:03,680 --> 02:05:06,120
Speaker 4: colts riding. Shout out to people who submitted questions to

2725
02:05:06,320 --> 02:05:08,120
Speaker 4: our mail bag over at the Athletics, So if you've

2726
02:05:08,120 --> 02:05:11,080
Speaker 4: got questions, hell, you can call into the show, text

2727
02:05:11,200 --> 02:05:13,280
Speaker 4: me or send it a text in. I'll try to

2728
02:05:13,320 --> 02:05:16,480
Speaker 4: answer some of those here for later this week, because

2729
02:05:16,600 --> 02:05:18,320
Speaker 4: I do think we're at a point now you all

2730
02:05:18,400 --> 02:05:20,920
Speaker 4: where I'm guilty of it. You can harp on the

2731
02:05:21,000 --> 02:05:23,040
Speaker 4: Chris Baller being back thing for a long time in

2732
02:05:23,120 --> 02:05:26,640
Speaker 4: Shane stykeing, but the sun is up, the world moves on,

2733
02:05:26,800 --> 02:05:28,360
Speaker 4: and we got to figure out a way for at

2734
02:05:28,440 --> 02:05:30,760
Speaker 4: least personally, I got to figure out ways. Okay, if

2735
02:05:30,840 --> 02:05:33,880
Speaker 4: this is the parameters, how can this team get better

2736
02:05:34,240 --> 02:05:35,600
Speaker 4: or what can they do to try to, you know,

2737
02:05:35,720 --> 02:05:37,320
Speaker 4: push this thing into twenty twenty six? And a more

2738
02:05:37,360 --> 02:05:38,280
Speaker 4: positive note, what.

2739
02:05:38,360 --> 02:05:39,280
Speaker 1: Do you got going on tonight?

2740
02:05:40,040 --> 02:05:41,480
Speaker 2: You can be watching a lot of hoops right I

2741
02:05:41,560 --> 02:05:44,640
Speaker 2: mean it's early start times too, just reminders six thirty

2742
02:05:44,720 --> 02:05:47,840
Speaker 2: for both Purdue and Butler and then seven o'clock over

2743
02:05:47,840 --> 02:05:51,880
Speaker 2: a game Bridge Field House. That is the Raptors and

2744
02:05:52,000 --> 02:05:54,640
Speaker 2: the Pacers, and three weeks from tomorrow the trade deadline.

2745
02:05:54,720 --> 02:05:57,120
Speaker 2: So again, still no Benedict Matheren back in the lineup.

2746
02:05:57,160 --> 02:05:59,280
Speaker 2: I think Rick said to us last week it'd be

2747
02:05:59,320 --> 02:06:01,320
Speaker 2: at least a way week. Well here we are now

2748
02:06:01,400 --> 02:06:05,760
Speaker 2: eight days remove, so you know, when do we see

2749
02:06:05,760 --> 02:06:07,960
Speaker 2: Benedict Mathern back in the lineup? And how many games

2750
02:06:08,000 --> 02:06:11,120
Speaker 2: does he play before the trade deadline? And how much

2751
02:06:11,200 --> 02:06:14,560
Speaker 2: is his name talked about here in the next couple weeks.

2752
02:06:14,680 --> 02:06:17,080
Speaker 1: I just want to keep the winning streap going. I

2753
02:06:17,120 --> 02:06:18,360
Speaker 1: don't know how many of those are going to be

2754
02:06:18,440 --> 02:06:20,440
Speaker 1: this year. I'm all invested in this one.

2755
02:06:20,520 --> 02:06:22,520
Speaker 2: Let's just keep it going and head over the nervous

2756
02:06:22,560 --> 02:06:24,160
Speaker 2: about the draft pick odds.

2757
02:06:24,720 --> 02:06:27,240
Speaker 6: There are a few people who are listening. You shut

2758
02:06:27,280 --> 02:06:27,800
Speaker 6: your trap.

2759
02:06:29,240 --> 02:06:31,400
Speaker 2: They've got so far to go to mess that up,

2760
02:06:31,560 --> 02:06:35,200
Speaker 2: so may not that far really. I mean again, it's

2761
02:06:35,400 --> 02:06:38,760
Speaker 2: tiered in percentages, so you know, once you start to

2762
02:06:38,800 --> 02:06:40,760
Speaker 2: get out of the what probably the two or three

2763
02:06:40,920 --> 02:06:46,480
Speaker 2: worst teams, then you drop percentage wise. So again it's

2764
02:06:46,720 --> 02:06:48,200
Speaker 2: the awkwardness of this season.

2765
02:06:49,080 --> 02:06:53,320
Speaker 1: You're competing right now with the other nine win team

2766
02:06:53,400 --> 02:06:55,960
Speaker 1: is New Orleans, Sacramento is a ten win team.

2767
02:06:56,320 --> 02:06:57,760
Speaker 6: So Friday's a Washington.

2768
02:06:59,320 --> 02:07:02,400
Speaker 2: If that's how you're looking out of Yah, Pelicanspacers in there.

2769
02:07:03,800 --> 02:07:09,560
Speaker 4: Bring me Darren Peterson or Ajdbanza boy either or Darren

2770
02:07:09,560 --> 02:07:12,040
Speaker 4: Peterson's got the weird like leg injuries this year. I

2771
02:07:12,040 --> 02:07:14,400
Speaker 4: don't know what's going on with the hamstrings, but every

2772
02:07:14,440 --> 02:07:15,720
Speaker 4: time he plays, he's amazing.

2773
02:07:16,280 --> 02:07:17,880
Speaker 2: Weird injuries in Indianapolis.

2774
02:07:19,320 --> 02:07:22,000
Speaker 1: Are there any players out there that you would trade

2775
02:07:22,680 --> 02:07:23,600
Speaker 1: the number one pick for?

2776
02:07:25,240 --> 02:07:26,400
Speaker 2: Yes, Victor Webbin Yama.

2777
02:07:26,480 --> 02:07:31,080
Speaker 4: I was gonna say probably not honestly, realistic, realistically, trade

2778
02:07:31,120 --> 02:07:33,160
Speaker 4: for no because I'm not a player away from winning

2779
02:07:33,160 --> 02:07:34,960
Speaker 4: the championship now.

2780
02:07:34,960 --> 02:07:36,840
Speaker 6: I can't do that one. I need a number one pick.

2781
02:07:37,400 --> 02:07:39,720
Speaker 4: I don't think the Pacers ever selected number one overall

2782
02:07:39,840 --> 02:07:42,440
Speaker 4: in their franchise history. They had a number one pick

2783
02:07:42,800 --> 02:07:46,240
Speaker 4: years ago, and I believe they might have traded it

2784
02:07:46,360 --> 02:07:47,760
Speaker 4: or something. It was the year that Larry Bird was

2785
02:07:47,760 --> 02:07:49,440
Speaker 4: coming out of college, or actually he stayed in college,

2786
02:07:49,480 --> 02:07:51,040
Speaker 4: so they didn't want to pick him because he's gonna

2787
02:07:51,040 --> 02:07:54,000
Speaker 4: stay in school, so they traded it and Larry came

2788
02:07:54,040 --> 02:07:56,400
Speaker 4: out the following year. So knowing how that history kind

2789
02:07:56,400 --> 02:07:57,600
Speaker 4: of went, Nah, I need a number one pick and

2790
02:07:57,640 --> 02:07:58,480
Speaker 4: we got to keep it this time.

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Speaker 1: You guys know, so outside of Oklahoma that went off

2792
02:08:02,800 --> 02:08:04,760
Speaker 1: to that amazing start, who do you think is the

2793
02:08:04,840 --> 02:08:07,680
Speaker 1: second best team in the NBA right now by record?

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02:08:08,960 --> 02:08:10,320
Speaker 6: So you said who was the first team?

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02:08:10,400 --> 02:08:10,480
Speaker 5: Is it?

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02:08:10,560 --> 02:08:10,760
Speaker 6: Okay?

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02:08:10,800 --> 02:08:13,880
Speaker 1: See yeah, okay, see they had that amazing start where

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02:08:13,880 --> 02:08:18,400
Speaker 1: they still anyway, it might be isingha man, it is

2799
02:08:18,480 --> 02:08:21,640
Speaker 1: still the Pistons at twenty eight and ten. He might

2800
02:08:21,800 --> 02:08:24,520
Speaker 1: be having their ten division games so far.

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02:08:25,080 --> 02:08:26,480
Speaker 6: He might be the best point guard in the NBA

2802
02:08:26,640 --> 02:08:26,920
Speaker 6: right now.

2803
02:08:28,120 --> 02:08:28,880
Speaker 1: He's playing well.

2804
02:08:29,120 --> 02:08:30,840
Speaker 6: Steph Curry obviously still alive.

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02:08:31,000 --> 02:08:33,960
Speaker 4: I'm doing well, but look at team success this year

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02:08:34,240 --> 02:08:35,880
Speaker 4: this season only he might be the best point guard

2807
02:08:35,880 --> 02:08:36,000
Speaker 4: in the.

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02:08:36,040 --> 02:08:38,280
Speaker 1: League right here, right now. I don't think you're probably right.

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02:08:38,960 --> 02:08:43,360
Speaker 6: So we'll see what happens tonight with the Bacers, all right, So.

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02:08:43,440 --> 02:08:45,680
Speaker 1: That one starts at seven o'clock over at the Fieldhouse.

2811
02:08:45,720 --> 02:08:47,440
Speaker 1: You'll hear at live beating at six thirty right here.

2812
02:08:47,480 --> 02:08:49,600
Speaker 1: On ninety three five, when I was seven, five the fan,

2813
02:08:49,680 --> 02:08:53,520
Speaker 1: I did start watching some sports documentaries on the plane.

2814
02:08:53,520 --> 02:08:55,760
Speaker 1: I'm halfway through the l Way documentary.

2815
02:08:55,920 --> 02:08:57,120
Speaker 2: I see people have raved about that.

2816
02:08:57,600 --> 02:08:59,360
Speaker 1: It's been pretty good, so far. I'm surprised.

2817
02:08:59,560 --> 02:09:01,520
Speaker 2: Did they get in a lot of the Baltimore say

2818
02:09:01,640 --> 02:09:02,640
Speaker 2: No to Baltimore bah.

2819
02:09:02,640 --> 02:09:04,400
Speaker 1: They got into it for about three four minutes. They

2820
02:09:04,440 --> 02:09:07,360
Speaker 1: spent some time on that. I think, you know, they

2821
02:09:07,640 --> 02:09:10,760
Speaker 1: go through kind of how devastating those first three Super

2822
02:09:10,800 --> 02:09:14,960
Speaker 1: Bowl losses were and that kind of effect that it

2823
02:09:15,080 --> 02:09:17,839
Speaker 1: had on him. They go a lot into the relationship

2824
02:09:17,880 --> 02:09:21,040
Speaker 1: between him and Dan Reeves, which didn't end very well

2825
02:09:21,080 --> 02:09:23,280
Speaker 1: because Reeves want to control everything and be a run

2826
02:09:23,400 --> 02:09:26,680
Speaker 1: first offense. Can you imagine having John Elway and only

2827
02:09:26,720 --> 02:09:28,480
Speaker 1: putting the ball in his hands like twenty to twenty

2828
02:09:28,520 --> 02:09:30,720
Speaker 1: two times a game. Can you imagine what kind of

2829
02:09:30,720 --> 02:09:33,440
Speaker 1: statsy he'd ad if Mike Shanahan bad if Mike Shanahan

2830
02:09:33,520 --> 02:09:35,880
Speaker 1: had been hit his head coach. And I liked Dan Reeves,

2831
02:09:36,160 --> 02:09:38,960
Speaker 1: but if Shanahan had been his head coach the entire time,

2832
02:09:39,400 --> 02:09:40,800
Speaker 1: what would those numbers have looked like?

2833
02:09:42,400 --> 02:09:42,800
Speaker 6: Certainly?

2834
02:09:43,600 --> 02:09:46,880
Speaker 1: So, yeah, but so and I love all these documentaries

2835
02:09:46,920 --> 02:09:47,720
Speaker 1: that have come out, you know.

2836
02:09:48,360 --> 02:09:48,480
Speaker 5: Uh.

2837
02:09:49,120 --> 02:09:50,920
Speaker 1: One of the last ones I watched before that was

2838
02:09:51,040 --> 02:09:54,800
Speaker 1: The Starting Five, which obviously was a rough, rough finish

2839
02:09:54,880 --> 02:09:56,840
Speaker 1: for us. But I love the fact that there are

2840
02:09:56,880 --> 02:10:00,360
Speaker 1: so many great documentaries coming out about sports and the

2841
02:10:00,440 --> 02:10:01,720
Speaker 1: athletes and the teams that we love.

2842
02:10:01,800 --> 02:10:03,280
Speaker 2: Right now, we're going to get one on this IU

2843
02:10:03,360 --> 02:10:04,040
Speaker 2: football program.

2844
02:10:04,320 --> 02:10:06,320
Speaker 1: There should be one should be in progress.

2845
02:10:07,080 --> 02:10:07,680
Speaker 6: Absolutely.

2846
02:10:07,840 --> 02:10:10,280
Speaker 4: I can definitely picture at thirty for thirty being made

2847
02:10:10,960 --> 02:10:14,640
Speaker 4: on this season, on this team. And I mean you

2848
02:10:14,720 --> 02:10:17,680
Speaker 4: can choose a number of different angles, whether it's Differentanda

2849
02:10:17,720 --> 02:10:22,200
Speaker 4: Mendoza angle, whether it's the Angelo Pond's Kurt Signetti. I mean,

2850
02:10:22,280 --> 02:10:26,000
Speaker 4: there's just so many likable characters and redeeming qualities for

2851
02:10:26,120 --> 02:10:28,280
Speaker 4: this group. And honestly, if you're looking for something that

2852
02:10:28,360 --> 02:10:30,400
Speaker 4: you haven't perhaps read just yet, I would go with

2853
02:10:30,800 --> 02:10:34,000
Speaker 4: the Player's Tribune article that Fernanda Mendoza's mom put out

2854
02:10:34,320 --> 02:10:36,160
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks back, one of the best things

2855
02:10:36,200 --> 02:10:38,680
Speaker 4: I've read in the last year or so.

2856
02:10:39,160 --> 02:10:40,320
Speaker 6: She was phenomenal on that piece.

2857
02:10:40,360 --> 02:10:41,680
Speaker 4: And so if you want to get a little umph,

2858
02:10:41,880 --> 02:10:44,040
Speaker 4: little motion going into Monday night, read that.

2859
02:10:44,560 --> 02:10:44,920
Speaker 5: I like that.

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02:10:45,040 --> 02:10:47,080
Speaker 1: Do we have a Caleb Williams documentary coming up? Are

2861
02:10:47,120 --> 02:10:47,920
Speaker 1: you already starting that?

2862
02:10:48,120 --> 02:10:48,360
Speaker 5: Mark?

2863
02:10:49,480 --> 02:10:51,440
Speaker 2: I've asked to produce it at least I.

2864
02:10:51,480 --> 02:10:54,040
Speaker 4: Think Mark is like started to go fund me for

2865
02:10:54,600 --> 02:10:58,680
Speaker 4: Caleb's nail expenses at the salon, because.

2866
02:10:58,520 --> 02:11:00,400
Speaker 6: Right now you know, I have such a big talking point.

2867
02:11:01,360 --> 02:11:03,840
Speaker 4: But now everyone in Chicago's like, paint them nails, brother,

2868
02:11:03,840 --> 02:11:04,880
Speaker 4: to get the French Tims done.

2869
02:11:04,960 --> 02:11:06,800
Speaker 1: Oh if they win a game, if they win this game,

2870
02:11:06,880 --> 02:11:09,560
Speaker 1: he's gonna come back with with uh with nails done.

2871
02:11:09,760 --> 02:11:11,880
Speaker 3: I already told the daughters get it ready, let's roll.

2872
02:11:12,440 --> 02:11:14,120
Speaker 1: So you have the built an excuse though, because if

2873
02:11:14,120 --> 02:11:15,960
Speaker 1: your dad and you let your daughters do that, people

2874
02:11:16,000 --> 02:11:18,280
Speaker 1: are like, okay, whatever, right, give me.

2875
02:11:18,320 --> 02:11:21,680
Speaker 2: The NFC championship, ladies. The nail polish is so much

2876
02:11:21,680 --> 02:11:25,040
Speaker 2: harder to get off, Mark or the when Rosie's painting

2877
02:11:25,080 --> 02:11:26,680
Speaker 2: my nails, it's so much harder to get off than

2878
02:11:26,720 --> 02:11:27,440
Speaker 2: I Originally.

2879
02:11:27,760 --> 02:11:29,960
Speaker 3: We've thrown away about three hand towels so far because

2880
02:11:29,960 --> 02:11:32,080
Speaker 3: it's just they've done it and just like wiped it on.

2881
02:11:32,200 --> 02:11:34,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, these are good to believable. I feel like

2882
02:11:34,400 --> 02:11:37,040
Speaker 2: I'm getting like a wine stain out of a white carpet,

2883
02:11:37,480 --> 02:11:40,760
Speaker 2: just trying to it's insane. Tack my finger now so

2884
02:11:40,800 --> 02:11:42,240
Speaker 2: I can empathize with Kayleb Williams.

2885
02:11:42,520 --> 02:11:44,680
Speaker 1: I had two boys I didn't have. I didn't have

2886
02:11:44,760 --> 02:11:45,320
Speaker 1: to worry about that.

2887
02:11:45,440 --> 02:11:47,360
Speaker 5: I guess you might have.

2888
02:11:47,560 --> 02:11:49,600
Speaker 1: I always appreciate the dads that let their daughters do

2889
02:11:49,720 --> 02:11:52,400
Speaker 1: that though. I think that's pretty cool. So all right,

2890
02:11:52,640 --> 02:11:55,560
Speaker 1: any final notes, final thoughts before we head off into

2891
02:11:55,640 --> 02:11:57,960
Speaker 1: the great radio Wasteland for twenty one a week.

2892
02:11:58,000 --> 02:12:01,480
Speaker 2: Wait, John Harbaugh, I guess first Domino.

2893
02:12:01,240 --> 02:12:04,000
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, first Domino and everybody starts going after that.

2894
02:12:04,320 --> 02:12:07,080
Speaker 1: So does it feel like giants? I don't know. We'll

2895
02:12:07,120 --> 02:12:08,960
Speaker 1: talk about it tomorrow. I'm ninety three five, one of

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02:12:09,000 --> 02:12:09,720
Speaker 1: seventy five defint