Speaker 1: The Frames per Second Podcast. Welcome everybody to a new
Speaker 1: episode of The Frames per Second Podcast. I am one
Speaker 1: of your four host Kenneth Bian's joining me. I have Rod,
Speaker 1: Mike and Spike Yo. We are here to review part
Speaker 1: two of Wicked. It's called too good.
Speaker 2: It was not called too good.
Speaker 1: It's not for goods Wicked for good?
Speaker 2: What do you think about these whole back of my Hey,
Speaker 2: I had to be called a wicked boy. She was
Speaker 2: good too.
Speaker 1: That's what she said. That's what she said when she
Speaker 1: got with that white guy.
Speaker 2: She jumped on my broomstick.
Speaker 1: She was like, Oh, I'm feeling sort of wicked. There
Speaker 1: was a laugh at people laughed at loud in the theater.
Speaker 1: They laugh in your theater. Yeah, yeah, they said that line.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of corny last Yeah.
Speaker 1: The movies directed by John m chu who did the
Speaker 1: first one. He did in the Heights. He did Crazy
Speaker 1: Rich Asians. It was written by Winnie Holsman and Dana Fox,
Speaker 1: adapting at two of the two thousand and three Broadway
Speaker 1: musical by Stephen Schwartz and Holzman. Uh. And it's based
Speaker 1: on the you know well, they kind of rode around
Speaker 1: the original Wizard of Oz as well. The cast has
Speaker 1: Ariana Grande who's Glinda, Cynthia Revo who's Elfheba, Jonathan Bailey
Speaker 1: who's fire, oh, and some other folks. Jonathan Bailey was
Speaker 1: on What is Happening behind Me? Sorry? I forgot what
Speaker 1: show he was on?
Speaker 2: Which guy?
Speaker 1: H Ridgardon? Yeah, you watched Bridgingdon's spike.
Speaker 2: That sounds like a spike as you gotta watch.
Speaker 1: Try. I tried.
Speaker 3: You tried to watch it, but it wasn't bad. I
Speaker 3: just don't know why I finished. Okay, but yeah, that's
Speaker 3: definitely my type of show mate.
Speaker 1: Damn. But yeah, it's it's basically the part too to this. So,
Speaker 1: uh so we reviewed the first one? We did? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we reviewed the first one.
Speaker 3: Mike's suggestion, No what it was? I was trying to swallow.
Speaker 3: But I do not remember this being my suggestion.
Speaker 2: I know you don't wicked.
Speaker 4: Yes, the first one absolutely a suggestion that you apologize
Speaker 4: to us.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not just watching it.
Speaker 1: I was wondering why we ended up reviewing the first one.
Speaker 4: Mike say, yo, it's you know, it's one of those.
Speaker 4: It's a big movie, and yeah, I think we should
Speaker 4: try it. Yeah, you did well, that's my one.
Speaker 3: Y'all have plenty, so I'm not apologizing for this one though,
Speaker 3: because we did not have to do this.
Speaker 1: We didn't have to do part two. We had you
Speaker 1: said you.
Speaker 4: Want, and on that video you said you wasn't gonna
Speaker 4: do too dang, so here you are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I had known I had said that, I
Speaker 2: would have skipped this. Yeah, you said you should have
Speaker 2: started the mutiny because I would have.
Speaker 1: So did you regret going to watch it? Because I
Speaker 1: know you were? Yeah?
Speaker 5: This was This was terrible, terrible. This was fucking terrible.
Speaker 5: This was worse than the first one. And I was
Speaker 5: I was literally gonna come in here and be like,
Speaker 5: we didn't need to do this. But I remember requesting
Speaker 5: the first one. But we did not have to do this, y'all.
Speaker 5: I don't think anybody is being like, damn, I can't
Speaker 5: wait to see what frame says wicked part.
Speaker 4: We did the first one, and they were hoping that
Speaker 4: we would change our tune and do this one.
Speaker 2: It's what I saw in the comment.
Speaker 1: I think that you were probably right. We probably could
Speaker 1: have opted out, even though it would have been weird
Speaker 1: to not do the second one, But I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. Yeah, I hope we don't. My idea have
Speaker 1: concerns about doing a disservice to the people that actually
Speaker 1: liked the show. That was my biggest concern, for people
Speaker 1: to actually get it, that liked musical, that appreciate the
Speaker 1: story that's more than their wheelhouse. But nonetheless we hear now. So, Spike,
Speaker 1: you were not on the first one you tried? But
Speaker 1: did I finish the first one? No? God, did you
Speaker 1: feel like when you were watching this you needed that context?
Speaker 1: And did you like this one?
Speaker 3: I didn't feel like I missed anything. I could tell
Speaker 3: what was going on. I will say that I probably
Speaker 3: enjoyed this more than an hour watching the first one
Speaker 3: because I was in the theater, so it did more
Speaker 3: justice to the lighting and the colors and all of
Speaker 3: that stuff. I did wonder who was the first person
Speaker 3: that thought, in the middle of a movie, let's just
Speaker 3: start singing and dancing versus having dialogue of accent anything,
Speaker 3: and just do this whole musical number. And I wonder
Speaker 3: how they got popular hours watch this because it kind
Speaker 3: of I understand that this is a musical, but me
Speaker 3: not liking musical instead irritated me.
Speaker 2: I don't like just breaking out in the song and dance.
Speaker 1: Did it feels like to you guys that there were
Speaker 1: more songs in this one?
Speaker 2: It felt like it was less to me?
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, I felt like it was more to me.
Speaker 2: Every damn you almost don't remember the first one?
Speaker 1: Nah, I don't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the first one, man, the first one it is.
Speaker 4: I think it's definitely more. And the first one was longer.
Speaker 1: The first three hours was almost three hours. But maybe
Speaker 1: maybe because maybe because this is supposed to run like consecutively,
Speaker 1: maybe since if what you were saying, Rod, there were
Speaker 1: so many songs, more songs in that one than this one.
Speaker 1: That's why it felt like because I'm I'm with you
Speaker 1: and I don't know how you feel, rot like the
Speaker 1: beginning of this movie was song heavy, and I'm like, God, dang,
Speaker 1: can't y'all just talk talk?
Speaker 2: Can we get a regular conversation?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: But that being said, what I did appreciate about the
Speaker 3: movie is the reveal of like the tin Man the Scarecrow,
Speaker 3: Like they were more. It was more Wizard of Ours adjacent,
Speaker 3: not that I know how jacent the first one was.
Speaker 3: Other than I think I saw them running.
Speaker 1: It wasn't it wasn't it was more of that in
Speaker 1: this one.
Speaker 3: Those things stuck out to me and they were done well,
Speaker 3: like the building of the yellow brick roll all all
Speaker 3: those things. Since I like Wizard of Ours that that
Speaker 3: was good to me. But just overall as a musical.
Speaker 1: And Wiz the Wiz, you know, the Wiz and Wizard
Speaker 1: both both of my life.
Speaker 3: But yeah, this what made this good is how adjacent
Speaker 3: didn't ran to Wizard of Oz.
Speaker 1: So that was something for you to connect.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I like the lion thing and the ten
Speaker 2: man thing, all that was cool to me.
Speaker 1: Gotcha? So roight, what do you think about the What's
Speaker 1: part two?
Speaker 4: I think overall execution of this is is done. It's
Speaker 4: done well. Like from that standport of fans of this movie,
Speaker 4: I don't, like I said before about the first.
Speaker 2: One I did.
Speaker 4: This musicals is just not my wheelhouse, so I would
Speaker 4: just come on here just straight bashing it if I
Speaker 4: just solely went off of that. But as far as
Speaker 4: like the way they execute some of the performances in here,
Speaker 4: I think are done well. I think they did a
Speaker 4: good job with this Wicked series for what it is, right,
Speaker 4: I had my own personal dislikes about it. About you
Speaker 4: know some of the social commentary and all that stuff,
Speaker 4: and then obviously the musical numbers.
Speaker 2: But I did. I think I do enjoy this on
Speaker 2: a little bit more.
Speaker 4: Not that that's saying much, but I do enjoy it
Speaker 4: a little bit more because, like I believe that it
Speaker 4: was less singing. I believe it was more story here,
Speaker 4: which is why I like Wizard of Oz, because Wizard
Speaker 4: Hearts has a lot of story with musical elements or whatever.
Speaker 4: I feel like they kind of pulled and pulled that
Speaker 4: into to the second one. That first one was just
Speaker 4: all mus see and when y'all say back to back
Speaker 4: to back, like, that's how I feel like the first
Speaker 4: one was. This one wasn't so much. I feel like
Speaker 4: we got a lot more dollogue. It seemed like they
Speaker 4: had to sing about everything and the other one. This one,
Speaker 4: they had their moments where it was just just acting
Speaker 4: or whatever. And that's what I can appreciate about about
Speaker 4: this one. So it was it was it was more tolerable,
Speaker 4: I'll say that for me than the first one. First one,
Speaker 4: I kept dozing. This one I didn't doze as much.
Speaker 4: And it's shorter too, so that I appreciated that too.
Speaker 4: The other one's almost three hours. This one's right a
Speaker 4: little over too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, two fifteen, Yeah, two hours fifteen. It's the runtime.
Speaker 1: I don't know how much of that is the movie,
Speaker 1: but yeah, and.
Speaker 4: I do like that too with Spike, like the I've
Speaker 4: always liked how this is, just to see how they
Speaker 4: were gonna intertwine the original Wizard of Oz to this
Speaker 4: story or whatever.
Speaker 1: That's always been a triggument. But I felt like we
Speaker 1: got cheated not seeing Dorothy though.
Speaker 2: What was it about?
Speaker 1: Like, I don't know, they don't they don't maybe I don't.
Speaker 4: Don't know if it's a licensing thing, I just don't.
Speaker 4: I don't think they want to put the emphasis on that.
Speaker 1: I think that that's what I was. It didn't that
Speaker 1: possibly what it was, because then it becomes about Dorothy
Speaker 1: and less about it.
Speaker 2: That's what That's what it was. They didn't say total.
Speaker 5: No, that was that was supposed to be a joke,
Speaker 5: because she's supposed to be goofy oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like a quote unquote dumb blonde.
Speaker 2: She called the dog something those well, Dodo or something
Speaker 2: she called Yeah.
Speaker 1: So overall, I mean, overall, I don't think it was
Speaker 1: that bad. I did see people that have watched the
Speaker 1: play say that the second part is the worst part. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it took half of the movie for me to
Speaker 1: kind of get like involved in what was going on.
Speaker 1: It was just a lot of sin, a lot of
Speaker 1: set up, a lot of back and forth here, back
Speaker 1: and forth there. It wasn't until they got into the
Speaker 1: actual ship where I was like, Okay, here we go.
Speaker 1: And then there was a point where I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: how the hell we're gonna wrap this up? You know?
Speaker 1: But yes, but the first the first act and a half,
Speaker 1: was like, bro, I can't we just I'm just here
Speaker 1: something I'm not gonna get find by, you know. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's been five years after the last event,
Speaker 1: and you have Alphaba, who was fully labeled the wicked witch,
Speaker 1: siding in the forest fighting for animal rights. That's still there,
Speaker 1: and you know, the propaganda machine has turned everybody against her.
Speaker 1: And then you have Glinda. Is she going by Glinda? Now?
Speaker 1: It was Glinda. It's just.
Speaker 2: Thought what he thought it was quick and consus.
Speaker 4: I thought he actually first I thought, yeah, I think
Speaker 4: he might have just put it in. No, he literally
Speaker 4: asked me, I don't but it in that's Spike that
Speaker 4: does that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said it was terrible. We should have did this.
Speaker 2: Oh you did ask him, you said, how did you?
Speaker 2: You're right, You're right.
Speaker 1: So Glinda now is the spokesperson for the wizard you know,
Speaker 1: uh corrected.
Speaker 2: She said that the gus silence, that's what that's why
Speaker 2: she said that in the first one. I believe. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she doesn't want to be called it's an uglier.
Speaker 1: Oh, but people were calling her Glinda.
Speaker 4: She made him call it Glinda, yeah, she said, and
Speaker 4: she told the uh the odds that the gut silence.
Speaker 1: Did you go back and rewatch it?
Speaker 2: I just I went back and rewatched our review.
Speaker 1: That's what I watched. She engaged to you, boy, Faro.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if that's like he said his
Speaker 1: name Pharaoh or something like that. Pharaoh. Yeah, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: captain of the guard, but he's looking for Alphaba with
Speaker 1: that jungle. How do you guys feel about where Glinda
Speaker 1: and Alfabra's start in part two? Do you think they
Speaker 1: did a good job? It was kind of selling the
Speaker 1: distance between the two, re establishing us in this world.
Speaker 4: I mean sure, I mean I don't feel like you
Speaker 4: had to do much I mean, they pretty much, and
Speaker 4: the last one made it very clear that they're about
Speaker 4: to be distant from each other.
Speaker 2: I think they did a good job back at.
Speaker 4: Showing Glinda Glinda that she has some sort of affinity
Speaker 4: for or whatever, because that wasn't very clear in the
Speaker 4: first one. It seemed like she wasn't her friend, and
Speaker 4: then she was her friend, and then by the end,
Speaker 4: like so they get a good job at like coming back.
Speaker 1: Around to that whole whole concept, Like, did you feel
Speaker 1: like Glinda was felt guilt over her position compared to
Speaker 1: the alphabus?
Speaker 2: I didn't get that.
Speaker 5: If that was supposed to be portrayed, I might I
Speaker 5: must have missed it, but no, just Glinda just seems
Speaker 5: like she just goes back and forth with you know,
Speaker 5: I want this power, but I kind of feel bad.
Speaker 5: But I want this power more than I feel bad.
Speaker 5: So I didn't really get that much that she was
Speaker 5: all broken up about what happened with Glinda until the
Speaker 5: fucking end of this movie.
Speaker 4: M Okay, Yeah, they try to make it seem like
Speaker 4: she's influenced by whatever, the Dean of which whatever Marshall, Yeah,
Speaker 4: not what's her last name?
Speaker 2: I forgot? They trying to make it.
Speaker 3: They put a lot of emphasis on her as the
Speaker 3: the person that's uh, the bad guy like the Overseers.
Speaker 2: Wars.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it feel it felt like from
Speaker 3: the context that I had the first one, did the
Speaker 3: power meant more to Glyndon than being actual friends?
Speaker 2: What's her name?
Speaker 3: A Like she wouldn't mind her coming back around and
Speaker 3: knowing their friendship. But if it's going to mean like
Speaker 3: people not knowing that I don't have powers and me
Speaker 3: not having any political power, you can stay where you at.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, because you saw like she had the little
Speaker 1: bubble thing. It was so funny when she was popping
Speaker 1: that bubble off. She played this role well, actually I
Speaker 1: didn't know she was. They didn't like her in the
Speaker 1: first one. No, I didn't either. The hour that I watched,
Speaker 1: I was like, real.
Speaker 4: Better, it's a little different than this the Yeah yeah,
Speaker 4: but I don't know if they stopped recording and they
Speaker 4: came back, they just just broke That's interesting then, because like, yeah,
Speaker 4: she seemed a little different in this.
Speaker 2: Not saying that she was tolerable, it was more tolerable.
Speaker 1: You're saying the acting was different or the character was
Speaker 1: differ I mean however you want, I think so, you
Speaker 1: think it's both. Well, the character was definitely different. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but which she was stupid in the first one.
Speaker 3: She was saying that was part of the reason I
Speaker 3: got out of there. I was like, come on, yeah,
Speaker 3: it was just funny. I couldn't somebody. I could not
Speaker 3: believe it. It was.
Speaker 4: It was hard to watch. Yeah, this one, it was
Speaker 4: a lot more tolerable. She was a lot more tolerable
Speaker 4: than this one because she was just doing that the
Speaker 4: whole movie.
Speaker 2: She's every scene. If she was like that, this one
Speaker 2: it wasn't like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably a little bit more with you're growing established
Speaker 1: in a position. We saw, you know, parts of the
Speaker 1: old Glenn to come out when she was playing with
Speaker 1: the bubble thing and old girl. Yeah, that was a
Speaker 1: moment where she was densey. Yeah, just looking at like
Speaker 1: she's just fucking stupid as hell.
Speaker 2: That was kind of funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was funny. She kept doing it. That's crazy,
Speaker 1: y'all want to that what a child if you had
Speaker 1: a bubble machine, Rod, I was a child as an adult.
Speaker 1: As an adult, what's the first thing you think? Like
Speaker 1: that got to run out of bubbles and something wasting
Speaker 1: the bubbles. That's what I was thinking the whole time, Magic.
Speaker 2: Morrible.
Speaker 1: Is there a name marrible to the bubble station? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know which of the south or north. Yeah,
Speaker 1: supposed to be to eat the real witch yuh in
Speaker 1: this one? But uh but yeah, so yeah, so we
Speaker 1: saw all of that. What do you guys think about
Speaker 1: the yellow Brick Road? Because I think we just opened
Speaker 1: with that?
Speaker 2: Did we open with it? They were building it, They
Speaker 2: were building it and then starts smacking. I did like that.
Speaker 4: Like I said, I went spike on that, trying to
Speaker 4: seeing that development or whatever, all roads lead to us,
Speaker 4: and so to kind of see that little backstory on
Speaker 4: that that that.
Speaker 2: Was pretty cool. That was pretty cool monkey off though they.
Speaker 1: Did not then? Yeah, no, that that that that was cool.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a good idea to kind of
Speaker 1: open with that. You know, I mean, we most people
Speaker 1: have seen the Wizard of Oz and we know the
Speaker 1: damn yellow Brick Road. So and if this is like
Speaker 1: a story around the story, just seeing them starting to
Speaker 1: build that and how they were putting it together and
Speaker 1: constructing it, and you know the relationship with how the
Speaker 1: animals were part of that and not unwillingly and her
Speaker 1: coming through and rescue and there, which led to a chase.
Speaker 1: I believe for him looking for alphabet because he man
Speaker 1: she was right behind him. M because they were Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I think the guards came.
Speaker 2: I thought he saw her. He just didn't want to
Speaker 2: tell her.
Speaker 1: You sure, I don't know she was hidden good? Well,
Speaker 1: he was choked up, like I feel like he was.
Speaker 1: He was like, like, you see her?
Speaker 2: Oh that part, Yeah, I'm a spike. I was, but
Speaker 2: I wasn't sure. But I thought that part wasn't clear
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't clear to me too. I was looking
Speaker 1: for a.
Speaker 3: Sign of that, but I was just I thought his
Speaker 3: face said that he saw her, like he was choked
Speaker 3: up like them. I've been looking for it and I
Speaker 3: want to connect with her, but I can't say nothing
Speaker 3: because they gonna lock her up.
Speaker 1: Okay, I could.
Speaker 2: Go both ways. Yeah, I'm not. I can lean towards
Speaker 2: what y'all was saying.
Speaker 1: I do remember the facial expression.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was wondering though, Okay, I can see that.
Speaker 3: Man, this is before they sick the monkeys on her right?
Speaker 3: Was that this is still all together right before her?
Speaker 2: I think that was later thought it was later to
Speaker 2: go ahead.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that was later. Yeah, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought it was it was it was dope.
Speaker 2: So who was chasing her here?
Speaker 1: Then one of the monkeys, No, no, it was the guard.
Speaker 1: The monkeys were chasing her when she was flying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she went the trees and the guards caught up with her. Oh,
Speaker 1: monkeys were chasing after her. Yeah, black on black crime.
Speaker 1: Trying to remember. Well, they cann't find her either, because.
Speaker 2: Well, she sucked him up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she sucked them up, like going through the number
Speaker 4: one list when she got Yeah, yeah, she got into
Speaker 4: the woods.
Speaker 2: That was sucked up.
Speaker 1: They probably they left, but yeah, but anyway, so yeah,
Speaker 1: so all that was cool. So then we we you
Speaker 1: know how you say his name fire Yeah, fire.
Speaker 2: Phedro or something like that.
Speaker 1: It's spelled f y f I y e r O.
Speaker 1: I think it's probably who is this zero hiroh. It's
Speaker 1: the white guy, the white guy. It's a lot of
Speaker 1: white guys with both of them.
Speaker 2: That was like cheating and whatever.
Speaker 1: Hero he was the one that was gonna Maeric Lynda.
Speaker 1: Yeah he didn't want Yeah, he would have hit it, yeah,
Speaker 1: but he did. She was trying to kissing.
Speaker 2: She didn't get married. I thought they did.
Speaker 3: Well, you don't think she put out Nah damn, let's wait,
Speaker 3: she's waiting for marriage. Definitely, she's definitely she was.
Speaker 2: That's why she was crying when all the animals busted
Speaker 2: their wet And I'm not gonna get that now, this
Speaker 2: is bullshit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was bad as hell.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: But we see the animals of like, we gotta get
Speaker 1: up out of here. Bro. So it is feral.
Speaker 2: Let's see fierro fiero, fiero, fier Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, So we move on to Alpham meeting the animals.
Speaker 1: They're fleeing os and we you know, her old caretaker
Speaker 1: was there, Dulci Bear, Elfa, you know, Elfeba tries to
Speaker 1: rally them, but the first OZ character shows up, the
Speaker 1: Cowardly Lion, and exposes that the wizards flying monkey spies
Speaker 1: are being used as surveillance and blaming Alpha.
Speaker 2: Before it.
Speaker 4: That was a call out on you, Like we didn't
Speaker 4: pick it up on the room. You but you knew
Speaker 4: that hit the cub inside that cage. You knew that
Speaker 4: was a cowardly line. That was a good catch.
Speaker 1: They had an underground they had an underground railroad. They
Speaker 1: did it was crazy. So you think the you know,
Speaker 1: because in your windows in the movie there were a
Speaker 1: lot and I was trying not to watch it with that.
Speaker 1: But do you think that the kind of captured the
Speaker 1: darker political tone well, or you think it kind of
Speaker 1: feel rushed or just kind of very like in your face.
Speaker 1: It was very in your face.
Speaker 3: I think it was very obvious what they were doing
Speaker 3: saying and what they were wanting to portray as a film.
Speaker 5: So like even with the railroad being underground, that's crazy
Speaker 5: that they're making us talking animals.
Speaker 2: And it was very like overt in my opinion. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: going going to the world of nothing, right, she said,
Speaker 2: you would rather be there than here with no resources?
Speaker 2: Will you survive?
Speaker 1: That's kind of like like ghetto, We're just gonna go
Speaker 1: over here and stuck it out resources.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think it were very They were very
Speaker 2: upfront with what they were saying.
Speaker 1: All right, since here I was really not trying this
Speaker 1: would be crazy. I didn't want to watch it with
Speaker 1: you know, a racial undertone, like remember the trigger warning.
Speaker 1: I like them, don't remember the trigger warnings.
Speaker 2: Trigger warning in other countries we talked about this just
Speaker 2: a surprise.
Speaker 4: I don't remember, Yes, trigger warnings and other countries about ableism.
Speaker 3: Uh, racial tones in it, the animal rights ship, all
Speaker 3: of that ship, the animal right stuff and the ableism.
Speaker 1: I get.
Speaker 2: I I forgot about the race that's making fun of
Speaker 2: people that can't walk. Can't walk like a sister, yes,
Speaker 2: like her sister. Why do you need you couldn't just
Speaker 2: like a crippled as sister? That one. God, I'm all right.
Speaker 2: They didn't her sister. No, I don't, he added it
Speaker 2: on right, he added on her sister looked like sambue
Speaker 2: L Jackson unbreakable.
Speaker 3: Ship.
Speaker 1: That's wrong with.
Speaker 2: God, damn, It's like, I can't see it. Why they
Speaker 2: do that this movie?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: They do that on part they did like, I ain't
Speaker 2: even they did. Why they do that? I never even
Speaker 2: thought about it? That's the fun, said Dad? What bones
Speaker 2: many do that? This movie is a trip?
Speaker 3: Bro?
Speaker 2: They want the same colors and everything. At first, I
Speaker 2: was like, what are you talking about? Jesus right now,
Speaker 2: I gotta pull it up. I gotta pull it up.
Speaker 1: Just like it.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Why did they do that? Why did they
Speaker 2: do that?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, oh my god? Why did they do this? Mike?
Speaker 1: Why did they do that.
Speaker 2: They could have did. They could have did anything else
Speaker 2: when I have else. They could have given the braids.
Speaker 2: They could have give him braids. They could have gave
Speaker 2: her a parent of man, a twist out or something
Speaker 2: like god, bro, they did. They did the same cut
Speaker 2: Jesus damn. I didn't even notice that. I ain't know
Speaker 2: what you was talking about. At first, I could not
Speaker 2: see it.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why Barkas wanted to believe her. Yeah, so Alphe,
Speaker 1: but you know, we running to the sister Sonessa Roles
Speaker 1: Andnessa now rules munchkin Land and she's like gone full authoritarian. Man,
Speaker 1: She's banning the Muskets for traveling. When she found out,
Speaker 1: O boy was like, hey, I think it's time for
Speaker 1: me to move on. She thought she was about to
Speaker 1: get a ring bro.
Speaker 2: I don't know why she thought that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like, na, he tried to he went
Speaker 1: to the train.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she turned into a servant.
Speaker 1: Yeah he was bad, but yeah, but yeah, so that
Speaker 1: whole thing went back. So he came back, and you know,
Speaker 1: it was fucked up. It was it was, Yeah, what
Speaker 1: made you think you're gonna want you? That's what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, trying to force him into a relationship.
Speaker 1: That she ain't gonna work. It was fucked up when
Speaker 1: he was like, you know what, I gotta go, this
Speaker 1: is my last chance. She was about to get married.
Speaker 1: I need to go trying to catch from my last shot.
Speaker 2: Bro way that he's the fact that he just said
Speaker 2: that ship.
Speaker 1: Well he was fed up with her at that point,
Speaker 1: because she was like at that point, yeah, he was mad,
Speaker 1: but no, that was fucked up though. I'm with you though, right,
Speaker 1: he was just outright said that.
Speaker 2: He didn't owe her ship just because she liked him.
Speaker 2: Don't mean he had to like her.
Speaker 4: He played He played himself though he did. You don't
Speaker 4: want to start trying to make act like he likes
Speaker 4: her for real. You get closer to Blinda.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, picked up on game, she did.
Speaker 2: I don't know why they came back to that though,
Speaker 2: like because she did pick up on it. That was
Speaker 2: in the first one. Yeah, it was in the first one.
Speaker 1: She knew, she knew. I think she overheard him or
Speaker 1: some ship. She probably thought she could chef that's what.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, like, yeah, people do that.
Speaker 4: I said women, But people do that. They think they
Speaker 4: could change people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, casino, yeah exactly, you know, we
Speaker 2: did do that.
Speaker 1: But but and in this particular scene, there was a
Speaker 1: moment where Elfa becomes comes in and she and chanced
Speaker 1: Nansa's shoes so she can move.
Speaker 2: She's flying.
Speaker 1: Uh. That's the only thing I felt, Nasa. I felt
Speaker 1: why Nansa was like Elpha bu yo when when she
Speaker 1: before she said it, I was thinking the same thing.
Speaker 1: And then she said it.
Speaker 2: She said, it's five.
Speaker 3: Years and five years you couldn't figure how to make
Speaker 3: me walk, and all you can do is come up
Speaker 3: here and turn me into a puppet.
Speaker 2: And I'm up in the air, fucking floating.
Speaker 1: Legs, just dangling. Ship.
Speaker 2: She was smiling though, just the first time she's been right.
Speaker 2: But that was foullas ship. Alphaba is a fucking asshole.
Speaker 3: In a little bit I've seen in the first of
Speaker 3: her sisters trying to act like she didn't want her help,
Speaker 3: like Elfabus should have known she's lying. If I can
Speaker 3: make you walk, she would be oh ship, oh cool.
Speaker 1: Well even still she wasn't walking, she was in the air.
Speaker 2: That's what I say. Elfe was a fucking asshole.
Speaker 1: And what them shoes, gonna do them shoes?
Speaker 2: Didn't do ship, but make her fly?
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: You couldn't give her some walking shoes. Why did she
Speaker 2: give for them shoes? I have no idea. This movie
Speaker 2: is weird. I thought I thought she wanted them to
Speaker 2: look good or some ship. I seen it, but good
Speaker 2: in it for why.
Speaker 1: She was rolling around?
Speaker 2: No, man, you could have gave him some rims then tires.
Speaker 2: What are we doing?
Speaker 1: This movie is so weird. Yeah, but yeah, Bok, you know,
Speaker 1: tries to run away to confess his feelings to Glinda's up.
Speaker 4: She's she's the government that right, Yeah, and her mom
Speaker 4: was the governor too, so I think that was kind
Speaker 4: of passed down to her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because she she had did something else that was
Speaker 1: fucked up with the animals.
Speaker 2: Right, she was trying to make them get a permanent
Speaker 2: for traveling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, that's right, that's right, and uh little
Speaker 1: people do it. Yeah. Bock called her out on that,
Speaker 1: and then that's when he was like, yeah, I need
Speaker 1: to move on. That's when she was like, all right
Speaker 1: with your ass on that ship too. Immediate action, yeah, immediately.
Speaker 2: Yeah that man?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, but yeah, so but yeah, that nessa decides
Speaker 1: she's gonna cast a spell and to stop him from
Speaker 1: leaving to go confess his love, and it didn't work.
Speaker 1: It shrunk his heart and uh turned him into the
Speaker 1: ten man.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. I thought it was cool, though, just
Speaker 2: to reveal it really was.
Speaker 5: Terrible because it doesn't make any sense and in context
Speaker 5: of what happens when the Wizard of Oz, I don't
Speaker 5: think it makes sense for him or the straw Man.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. The straw Man was weird. That was at
Speaker 1: the end, right. I didn't know if I was. I
Speaker 1: couldn't tell if I was like, what the fuck is that?
Speaker 1: The scarecrow, Yeah, I didn't know what the fun it
Speaker 1: was either his face glittering. Yeah, but no, I thought
Speaker 1: this was an interesting or creative way to create The
Speaker 1: character did seem forced, but I just like the Wizard
Speaker 1: of Okay, that's we saw When he mentioned as hard,
Speaker 1: did you think, tim Man?
Speaker 2: I ain't think until he started chopping the door, now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I needed that. Until the metal went on his hands,
Speaker 1: I was like, what the hell? Yeah, that's a full
Speaker 1: of ship. Though she blamed, she was like, he won't
Speaker 1: need a heart, Like, damn, I'm talking her. When she
Speaker 1: blamed uh her sister.
Speaker 2: Yeah, likes.
Speaker 1: She read the spells.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she read it wrong, and Alphabet tried to help, didn't.
Speaker 2: She turned into yeah, she's just said his life by
Speaker 2: turning them into the man, right, Yeah, but but the
Speaker 2: other girl killing better? Sorry ass which man, that's.
Speaker 1: What I was thinking. That's the best you could do
Speaker 1: is and close him and down metal? Where did all
Speaker 1: that metal come from? Anyway?
Speaker 2: It's magic?
Speaker 1: Was that the simple word magic? But that was Spiker.
Speaker 1: She was like, yeah, he a't gonna need a hard
Speaker 1: but he was about to chopnessa ass up.
Speaker 2: He was get away, Yeah, I can run.
Speaker 1: But anyway, so this part just felt stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because why do you have an a if you.
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 2: Look?
Speaker 1: What you thinking about this? You know? Tim Man revealed.
Speaker 4: It looked cool, but like I said, it felt forced
Speaker 4: because like we know, Tim Man has an accent.
Speaker 2: Why do you have an accent? This moment? It was magic? Yeah,
Speaker 2: but why why why do your max in this moment?
Speaker 2: Why you just turn to the Timm cut what you
Speaker 2: just said?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna move on. Sorry, look at I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: He was angry though. He was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you ain't got no dick no more I was
Speaker 2: a slave. Now I was a slave.
Speaker 3: I was a little person slave even though he's regular height,
Speaker 3: and then you turn me into a old person.
Speaker 2: I'd be mad as fuck. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh, moving on, Alphaboul returns to Emerald City.
Speaker 2: What's up, I'm not even trying to it, just this
Speaker 2: part just didn't make sense to me.
Speaker 5: Which one when Alphabet was trying to stop her from
Speaker 5: reading the wrong words.
Speaker 2: Again, not even trying to. Why couldn't you just roll
Speaker 2: her away from the book.
Speaker 3: She was like, stop, no, you're the wrong word. Just
Speaker 3: use your magic and just and we're done, or the
Speaker 3: book or float the book away. But it's just like, man,
Speaker 3: I mean, I know it's wicked, and I know we're
Speaker 3: not sunned, take it that seriously, But it was just
Speaker 3: like all these things happening just don't really make a
Speaker 3: whole lot of sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but ship she didn't make it any better.
Speaker 1: Well she did. She couldn't find a spell to stop
Speaker 1: it because it was too late at that point, but yeah,
Speaker 1: she could have stopped it.
Speaker 2: Ship Man.
Speaker 1: So Evenberg returns to the Emerald City, where Glenna and
Speaker 1: the Wizard are trying to recruit her, publicly promising to
Speaker 1: free the flying monkeys. If she plays a long she
Speaker 1: considers it, we get another song. Wonderful. I think with
Speaker 1: Joff Goldblom and Cynthia and Arianna, just hearing the two
Speaker 1: of them kind of it was really more noticeable in
Speaker 1: the last part when they had that duet, but you
Speaker 1: could just hear, like the differences in their voice. Bro
Speaker 1: Like Cynthia is just way more fuller and you know,
Speaker 1: Arianna is just a little bit more hollow. She can sing,
Speaker 1: but it's just their voices a contrast so much.
Speaker 2: But she's saying in real life she like a singer.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I was the other
Speaker 4: one she does. I don't know if she has a
Speaker 4: singing career.
Speaker 1: But she she sing yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, she's good.
Speaker 1: She considered us it. But she finds uh doctor Dillomont
Speaker 1: and the other animals in prison behind the scenes proving
Speaker 1: that nothing has changed. So the monkeys get to go free.
Speaker 1: But he got some other ones in captivity, and that's Mike.
Speaker 1: When he she was you know, she was about to
Speaker 1: get married, uh fire oh fhiaroh and Glinda, and then
Speaker 1: the animals broke free and destroyed the whole wedding thing,
Speaker 1: which was, of course, kind of foreshadowing everything that was
Speaker 1: about to happen because that ship was fucked up. Did
Speaker 1: you guys believe was it stupid for Effelba to even
Speaker 1: go along with this request, which requests to partner up
Speaker 1: with the She believed the Wizard and our uh Blinda.
Speaker 2: Well, she wasn't afraid of them, so you know, what
Speaker 2: do you say? Believe what you mean?
Speaker 1: It just felt like I didn't believe the Wizard at all.
Speaker 1: It felt like, Yeah, it felt like there was something
Speaker 1: else going on, and I didn't think it was the
Speaker 1: animals in captivity. It felt like they were tricking he
Speaker 1: was tricking her because it went too smoothly. It was yeah,
Speaker 1: con in her a little bit. Yeah, it felt like, yeah,
Speaker 1: felt like.
Speaker 4: A wanted she wanted to believe him, and then she
Speaker 4: wanted to trust her friend in thinking that because she
Speaker 4: was just she sold it right. Glinda sold it like, look,
Speaker 4: you just got to talk to him, and she did
Speaker 4: it on the strength of her like, Okay, if you're
Speaker 4: saying he's ready to talk or whatever, I'll go talk
Speaker 4: to him.
Speaker 2: So she went off the strength of Glinda.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe Glinda, it was the Wizard. I didn't
Speaker 1: believe the wizard. Yeah, and so it never went anywhere.
Speaker 1: My suspicions, you know, were wrong. Outside of you know,
Speaker 1: him having the animals. I thought that at some point
Speaker 1: they were going to team up and he was gonna
Speaker 1: use that as a means to capture her, some kind
Speaker 1: of bullshit like that. So that's that's kind of what
Speaker 1: I thought. But that's not Elfebra rebels. In the middle
Speaker 1: of Glinda and Fioral's wedding, chaos erupts, fier helps her escape,
Speaker 1: and the two finally confess their feelings for each other.
Speaker 1: In as long as your mind were you guys surprised
Speaker 1: that he switched up on Glinda and went with lack
Speaker 1: of the berry, sweet of the juice?
Speaker 2: Was this the thing in the first one?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a discussion we had, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: We debated whether or not that he was into Glinda.
Speaker 1: I thought he was.
Speaker 4: No, I don't think it was a debate, That's what
Speaker 4: it was like. Yeah, he showed that he was interested
Speaker 4: in her, and then I mean elfeba.
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait, now, if I recall correctly, it felt
Speaker 1: like Fieral was more into Alpha, but think Glinda.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, you would be correct, and Glinda
Speaker 4: was trying to get the attention of of thee mm hmm.
Speaker 2: And but yeah, and now that she has power, she
Speaker 2: got the attention. No, but it ain't genuine. No, she
Speaker 2: doesn't have the powers elf power, like like political powers.
Speaker 1: I got you. Well, I don't think. I don't think
Speaker 1: Fierro ever wanted Glinda in the first place. I think
Speaker 1: he just kind of went along with it in the movie.
Speaker 1: He just kind of followed through with it. He always
Speaker 1: wanted her. But and Alfeba knew that. But Elfe but
Speaker 1: didn't want to hurt her friend because she knew that
Speaker 1: Glinda was attracted to him and always wanted them, so
Speaker 1: she's just kind of let that go.
Speaker 3: It was some old, messy black ladies out there that's haided.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah right, hey man. He was like, yo,
Speaker 1: like nah, I've been looking for her this whole time,
Speaker 1: and I finally found her and he tricked the wizard.
Speaker 1: He was like, yo, if you want to believe this
Speaker 1: wisdom he needed to get in his cave, then that
Speaker 1: was it. He were you surprised he did that much?
Speaker 5: I mean they needed to add some more drama to
Speaker 5: this fucking movie. So no, I wasn't surprised. It was
Speaker 5: a bit much because it was like there was just
Speaker 5: there was just so many dramatic story arts going on.
Speaker 2: But no, I wasn't surprising.
Speaker 1: Mmm, okay, she was surprised.
Speaker 2: Who alphaba.
Speaker 1: You think she would Yeah, she said, yeah.
Speaker 2: She was just like, don't know, why are you going with?
Speaker 2: She didn't want she she.
Speaker 4: Was resistant of it at first, like of him basically
Speaker 4: going against the grain to go with her. Like, she
Speaker 4: was really surprised because you remember, she thought that he
Speaker 4: was on the other side. She thought that when y'all
Speaker 4: said she saw him in the woods and he was
Speaker 4: just like, yo, you know, will will finally catched this
Speaker 4: witch one one way or another. So she was she
Speaker 4: was going in thinking that he wasn't even on her side.
Speaker 2: So it was it was a surprise to her that
Speaker 2: he was.
Speaker 1: Okay, I was thinking that she was more concerned about
Speaker 1: hurting her friend too, and but she finally got what
Speaker 1: she wanted because she she didn't hesitate as soon as
Speaker 1: they got to this.
Speaker 2: It was an initial hesitation. She's like, all right, I
Speaker 2: guess we're doing this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, again, I thought that line it was corny.
Speaker 2: The wicked line. Yeah, it was corny, but it was
Speaker 2: a wicked line.
Speaker 1: She was like, yeah, for the first time, you know,
Speaker 1: in my life, I feel wicked.
Speaker 2: Yeah. That was uncomfortable. Like her trying to be sexy,
Speaker 2: it was just weird. Why because she's green.
Speaker 1: The Love Too.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm racist that No, that shit seemed weird. I
Speaker 3: just I couldn't take her seriously. When she was like
Speaker 3: trying to be sexy.
Speaker 2: It was just weird.
Speaker 1: Really, do you think it's because it's the Odds movie
Speaker 1: and they're interjecting sex into the movie?
Speaker 2: Partly? It just seemed weird and odd and just uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: I didn't think they were going to go there. I
Speaker 1: was surprised when she got naked.
Speaker 3: When she got naked and she woke up from them
Speaker 3: fucking I was like, this is fucking weird for kids movie.
Speaker 3: I guess maybe it's just I was thinking there was
Speaker 3: a kid's movie to spike, but maybe it's just not
Speaker 3: a kids movie.
Speaker 2: But yes, I thought them. I thought.
Speaker 3: I just did not believe Cynthia Rebo in this role
Speaker 3: being sexy because she said something where she was trying
Speaker 3: to sound like scandalousness, like this is weird.
Speaker 2: This is weird. Maybe in another role I would believe
Speaker 2: her fine, but just not in this one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she didn't spend a lot of time. But oh
Speaker 1: I know, I was nah we good she bathed?
Speaker 2: How does she bathe? How does she bathe?
Speaker 1: How does she bathe? Off?
Speaker 2: That too? Because she's allergic to water? Yeah, he said something.
Speaker 2: She cried how she got a yet fish?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, y'all, y'all, ya, I.
Speaker 2: Bet it just didn't smell pleasant in that treehouse.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: You did try to move on?
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 2: I was just wondering at the end, like when she
Speaker 2: hear what was like?
Speaker 1: Damn?
Speaker 2: How she takes bands?
Speaker 1: Glinda heartbroken in his leg believe they've been having an
Speaker 1: affair all along. Philip betrayed. She allows Morrible to lure
Speaker 1: Alphabe out, but Morble escalates Thing by contract or Tornado
Speaker 1: and stand the Kansas House arrives and kills Tessa Roanessa
Speaker 1: was rolling.
Speaker 3: This man, Why are you outside in a storm in
Speaker 3: a way, you're the governor, you're the governor, but you
Speaker 3: can't even run away from her, So like, why are
Speaker 3: you outside rolling around? It made no it made no
Speaker 3: fucking When you're talking about it's something like that was
Speaker 3: another force thing. I'm like, yo, they really forced she
Speaker 3: was break dancing to get then.
Speaker 2: Even Alfa was stupid. Even I was like, I'm seeing
Speaker 2: something and it just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm like we are too, We're in the
Speaker 3: same don't make no fuck sense.
Speaker 2: Where the fuck you get a house from?
Speaker 1: And why?
Speaker 2: Man they follow ship for that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you remember, I don't know if you'll remember,
Speaker 3: but that said, that was probably the one that the
Speaker 3: house landed on. Yeah, and I remember not thinking so
Speaker 3: because the leg the original movie thought that was, why
Speaker 3: are y'all doing this?
Speaker 2: This seems really disrespectful.
Speaker 5: Y'all dropped the house on the only uh disabled person
Speaker 5: that we've seen in this film, and then you have
Speaker 5: a focus on her legs and the actual real movie
Speaker 5: and her legs troubled up.
Speaker 2: This was weird. That's it didn't deserve this. That's it
Speaker 2: was shitty. But she was misunderstood.
Speaker 1: She had a rough life.
Speaker 2: This was kind of weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was. Yeah, it's a storm and you're still
Speaker 1: riding around of a box.
Speaker 2: It made no sense.
Speaker 1: You got guards and service, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Shed outside by yourself, and you even when you see
Speaker 3: the storm coming, turn your ass around and go back inside.
Speaker 1: Nope. Not.
Speaker 2: Shouldn't be willing in the middle of nowhere. No no,
Speaker 2: not by yourself.
Speaker 5: And it's not even like a motorized chair. So it's
Speaker 5: not like you could actually get away fast. And it
Speaker 5: just made no sense, absolutely no sense. Affable was absolutely right.
Speaker 5: She saw a vision and it did not make sense,
Speaker 5: and we did too. So I'm thinking I missed something.
Speaker 5: What was the reason for Marble to even bring that
Speaker 5: house there? Well, okay, so the storm or whatever, I
Speaker 5: missed this. So Glinda was like, if you want to
Speaker 5: get to her, go through her sister, right, So she
Speaker 5: killed her systor on purpose?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but why did I drop a house? No? No, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it was an accident, but because Glinda basically said that
Speaker 1: you have to use this sister to draw Ah.
Speaker 2: But I remember that part, yes, right, And Marrible.
Speaker 1: Was the one that escalated it and turned in it
Speaker 1: too a stormy.
Speaker 2: Right, that's what he's saying. So but so so Marrible
Speaker 2: killed her on purpose?
Speaker 1: I don't. I didn't look at it that way. I
Speaker 1: thought that was a damn.
Speaker 2: I thought she said it's gonna have to be more
Speaker 2: than a rumor. Did it on purpose?
Speaker 1: Connection all that work?
Speaker 3: Yeah, she caunjured up a storm a cyclone. So was
Speaker 3: she originally just gonna make the cyclone pick her up
Speaker 3: and flinger as something?
Speaker 2: Or does she want and how does she know?
Speaker 1: She was out.
Speaker 2: To make sense it's which magic don't because she doesn't.
Speaker 3: She wanted to conjure up a storm so she could
Speaker 3: kill her sister because she knew that just them telling
Speaker 3: a lot wasn't.
Speaker 2: Just poison her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to make sure she understand the accident.
Speaker 1: What we're basically trying to say happened here?
Speaker 2: Yeah, lost, they're trying to She went in and.
Speaker 1: Did the electric bugoloo ship break dance and ship conjured
Speaker 1: up this storm clone. So she conjured up this cyclone
Speaker 1: told that cyclone to pick up this house. She knew
Speaker 1: Elba was rolling in the deep NESSA sorry, I'll take
Speaker 1: that bad. She was outside, yes, but and she knew
Speaker 1: exactly where she was at, and she decided to drop
Speaker 1: the house.
Speaker 5: On see her knowing exactly where she's at. I don't
Speaker 5: have a problem with that because she's a witch.
Speaker 2: I just have more of an issue with this. Was
Speaker 2: a lot of work to kill this one girl in
Speaker 2: a chair.
Speaker 5: You fucking conjured up a storm, had the storm pick
Speaker 5: up a house, and you dropped the house on her.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe she wanted to make it seem more natural.
Speaker 1: Even though it was in.
Speaker 2: Oz that came from Kansas.
Speaker 5: They could have she could have done anything to her.
Speaker 5: So I after to this part, I was like, I
Speaker 5: must have. I was doubting myself, Like I fall asleep
Speaker 5: because I'm confused about what just happened. Mmmm, that this
Speaker 5: ship is weird comments I might read him for this,
Speaker 5: Please explain this part because I'm confused.
Speaker 1: And the house that you picked up had Dorothy in it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well we we saw that part.
Speaker 4: I'm saying, the same house that fell on the witch
Speaker 4: had Dorothy inside the house.
Speaker 2: But it doesn't even make sense because in the original
Speaker 2: we saw the witch flying around when Dorothy was coming,
Speaker 2: didn't didn't didn't, I believe so, But in this one
Speaker 2: the witch was just coming.
Speaker 1: We didn't.
Speaker 5: It doesn't make any And I can already read y'all's thoughts. Yes,
Speaker 5: we are putting way too much thought into this movie,
Speaker 5: but it just didn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this part blaring it will and I don't believe
Speaker 2: it's just us.
Speaker 1: I think that to part two. I didn't see it
Speaker 1: at the you know, play a theater or whatever, but
Speaker 1: they said that it wasn't all that good.
Speaker 2: I read the same thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, uh, I don't know if they have the
Speaker 1: same criticisms, but either way, which is kind of stupid.
Speaker 1: While they were breaking up in two parts, if they
Speaker 1: knew that, like, if you knew the second part wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna hit, Like, why would you even do? That's too
Speaker 1: much money? I mean, it's making money.
Speaker 2: I'm sure it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's making money. Anyway. Booker fronts Glenda over Neessa's
Speaker 1: death and they fight until the guards show up. Uh,
Speaker 1: what y'all think about that slap? This was about the
Speaker 1: fight between Yeah, I kind of thought this was funny.
Speaker 1: I did too, Spike, she slapped. She slapped her as bad.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about that sport power slap? Is that?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're right. We was going here a bitch
Speaker 2: she was about to. It looked like they paused it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looked like.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I liked it. I thought it was I did, Mike.
Speaker 1: I thought it was funny. People in the theater laughed too.
Speaker 1: She slapped the ship out of her, and she slapped
Speaker 1: the ship out of her back too. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I thought I thought it was interesting. H Fiero intervenes.
Speaker 1: He's drapped away to be tortured. Elfeba's devastated. She retreats
Speaker 1: to calm cold the hot out Phirooh told her about it.
Speaker 1: Finally gives up trying to be good, and then I
Speaker 1: think she did this on no good deed. She transforms
Speaker 1: Fierroh into the Scarecrow to save him. This ship didn't
Speaker 1: make sense to me, out of all the goddamn things
Speaker 1: in the world, a scarecrow. You love this man and
Speaker 1: you changed him to straw man.
Speaker 2: She's the shittiest witch in the world. It's looking like
Speaker 2: he's awful. Yeah, like you're not creative, not at all,
Speaker 2: not at all. You couldn't do anything but turn him
Speaker 2: into a fucking strong man so he would stop hurting.
Speaker 1: Oh man.
Speaker 2: And at what point does he join with Dorothy?
Speaker 1: And then we didn't see it exactly.
Speaker 4: Didn't make any because they couldn't make it make sense.
Speaker 4: They couldn't make that make sense.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, what was the Scarecrow's thing? The lion
Speaker 1: was cowardly? Then they have a heart, needed courage.
Speaker 2: I thought it wasn't courage the scarecrow.
Speaker 1: He wanted to be real, didn't he.
Speaker 2: That's Pinocchio. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't remember what.
Speaker 3: Let's see a brain, a brain, brain, So he turned
Speaker 3: them into a brainless scarecrow.
Speaker 1: And that's that was the disconnect for me. I knew
Speaker 1: it was something, but like, Okay, the tim Men, I
Speaker 1: got the CAROLYLINEA guy was like, but what was the
Speaker 1: thing with the scarecrow? This guy and I knew couldn't
Speaker 1: make couraged because he was a warrior.
Speaker 2: Wow, she gave me some brains?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 3: On what.
Speaker 1: He got it before? Oh he did get it before,
Speaker 1: so yeah, so he probably was wanting more of it.
Speaker 2: If I only had some brain. I used to get
Speaker 2: brain all the standard.
Speaker 3: I don't remember what it is. I know is I
Speaker 3: want the wizard to figure out how to give me
Speaker 3: some brain.
Speaker 2: That's what it was. The hell this movie they forced
Speaker 2: this whole.
Speaker 3: Ship, because did they ever show when they were showing
Speaker 3: a little silhouettes, he wouldn't have.
Speaker 2: I don't remember seeing him in there because I.
Speaker 1: Don't seen him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying they purposely didn't
Speaker 4: show them because they had to make that make sense,
Speaker 4: and it just didn't. It didn't make any sense. But
Speaker 4: I do have something that I think could make sense
Speaker 4: towards the towards the end about him. We'll see if
Speaker 4: you all agree.
Speaker 1: Okay, well we almost at the end because now she's
Speaker 1: full on villain which that was the thing I was
Speaker 1: really really trying to figure out with the first one.
Speaker 1: I was having the schedule with my wife, was like, well,
Speaker 1: how does she turn into like evil? So of course
Speaker 1: this is how the kills. Yeah, I killed the sister
Speaker 1: and she was like, all right, that's it, I'm over it.
Speaker 2: She had a song about it. What she said, no
Speaker 2: more good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no good deed yep. So yeah, so that's it.
Speaker 1: So but that makes sense for you guys, for her
Speaker 1: to be villainized like death was sister, her lover's gone.
Speaker 1: She had just got a peace because she ain't had
Speaker 1: any you know.
Speaker 2: Oh that's true.
Speaker 5: She had just got some dick and they took her
Speaker 5: sister at the same Yeah, I guess that that's enough,
Speaker 5: because I was gonna say it would have been a
Speaker 5: lot more believable if she had made up with her sister,
Speaker 5: but when they separated they still were kind of at odds.
Speaker 2: If they had let them like actually make up, this
Speaker 2: could have worked a little bit better.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when she arrived and was.
Speaker 3: Like stepping to fucking Glinda about using the sister's death,
Speaker 3: it didn't.
Speaker 2: There was no emotional anything to this.
Speaker 1: It wasn't because she was like, oh yeah, can I
Speaker 1: have some time with my sister?
Speaker 2: Yeah that was weird.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're just cool just just being.
Speaker 2: Dead under a house why, right?
Speaker 1: You know none of that.
Speaker 2: That's what happened in the original.
Speaker 1: Right, she was mad.
Speaker 2: She was really mad. I don't remember.
Speaker 1: She just accepted. She was like, damn, my sister did
Speaker 1: and the house on your sister of all things, like
Speaker 1: that's the way to die.
Speaker 2: Shoes, I get you my pretty and your little dog too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, no, she was all she said was
Speaker 4: just go get my sisters shoes.
Speaker 1: Was to give away, right, Yeah, because Dorothy ran off.
Speaker 1: They showed Dorothy and Glinda gave the shoes to Dorothy
Speaker 1: for that right, see you later.
Speaker 2: It just didn't.
Speaker 1: It's like the shoes are brand new. She you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: In the original that she telling her shoes was gonna
Speaker 2: get her home, I think so. I think so, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna make a float.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: So anyway, os is mobilizing against el but now Dorothy, Uh,
Speaker 1: it's definitely been weaponized. Glinda is realizing the cause of
Speaker 1: her choices. So we have Dorothy, a ten man of
Speaker 1: the line in the Scarecrow, now being sent directly to
Speaker 1: kill Elfeba. Bach is rallying an angry mob in March
Speaker 1: of the witch Hunters, and the Wizard is fully leaning
Speaker 1: into his propaganda and uh, Glinda breaks down and girl
Speaker 1: in the Bubble, realizing her public image was built on
Speaker 1: a lie. So she goes confront Morrible and Morble reminds
Speaker 1: us she was never in control.
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 1: This act was weird, mainly with Glinda's part, because she
Speaker 1: just kind of turned into the hero, you know, So
Speaker 1: you know, it's just like I don't know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, they gave her a full song where she
Speaker 1: just run around singing and shit, and there's a whole
Speaker 1: mob outside. So Glinda runs the cow Cold where Elfeba
Speaker 1: has in prisoned Dorothy trying to retrieve the shoes and
Speaker 1: Glenda warns her about the mob. Elfaba gives up and
Speaker 1: she decides to surrender just Barrick Linda from being hated
Speaker 1: like she was. And then they had their duo for
Speaker 1: Good Rea, firming their friendship and the tragedy of their
Speaker 1: broken paths. The harmonies were good here in one of
Speaker 1: the parts. It was when they harmon us and then
Speaker 1: they hit the same note as you know towards the end.
Speaker 1: But did for a good hit? Did that work or
Speaker 1: did it struggle to kind of close this whole thing out,
Speaker 1: like the emotional weight of these friends that are coming
Speaker 1: together being broken apart and now they're back together again
Speaker 1: to show that everything's all right in the world and
Speaker 1: you're really my sister and I love you. I don't
Speaker 1: care about you taking my boyfriend. She did have that
Speaker 1: line Rod where she was, oh, nigga chose me. It
Speaker 1: was with the shoes when she gave away the shoes
Speaker 1: and she was like, oh, yeah, I forgot what she
Speaker 1: said said, your sister wasn't using them, no way, no
Speaker 1: something about y'all. I never you knew you were asking
Speaker 1: permission for something to take you. Yeah, it was something
Speaker 1: like that. I can't anyway. Did the pronal song hit? Oh,
Speaker 1: the song, well, the song they were coming because they
Speaker 1: used the song to kind of connect.
Speaker 2: I think this is probably one of the better songs. Sure, but.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this this is apart man like like like like
Speaker 4: I said, with the first one, I have like the
Speaker 4: you know, the color, the colored person having to dim
Speaker 4: their light for the white woman to shine.
Speaker 2: It didn't feel weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the whole movie was weird that way.
Speaker 2: The first one was worse.
Speaker 1: This one.
Speaker 2: They brought it back around.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I felt I felt worse this time.
Speaker 2: I felt it this one. I don't remember the first
Speaker 2: one like you, but I was way unsee it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The first one they they was it was like like
Speaker 4: you saying, it was very overt, like in your face
Speaker 4: or whatever, like yeah, this is the first, not the
Speaker 4: first time, but this is one of the you.
Speaker 1: Know what, this was bro like the whole time watching
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, it's a black person's doing all the things,
Speaker 1: not bad, not evil, but it made out to be evil,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, angry. And then they're propping up this
Speaker 1: white person who doesn't have any ability to skill because
Speaker 1: remember she didn't have any other kid. They did the
Speaker 1: flashback when she had the winter and she tried to
Speaker 1: do the winter and she lied about the rainbow, so
Speaker 1: they use her as this image of what it should
Speaker 1: be where the black person has to go into hiding.
Speaker 1: And like you said, Lord of the Light.
Speaker 4: It's like the Dark Knight is remember felt like remember yeah,
Speaker 4: remember Dark Knight. Yeah, he's just like, look, I'll be
Speaker 4: the bad guy, Harvey.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. They want to they need
Speaker 2: someone to look up to. At least that made sense.
Speaker 2: That made a little bit more sense. I mean, this
Speaker 2: didn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: This is this this night.
Speaker 2: Now you're talking about race now, like whereas that was
Speaker 2: like it was two white men, It.
Speaker 1: Wasn't supposed to be about race, but it turned into this.
Speaker 1: But it's hard to for me to Nott'll think it
Speaker 1: isn't absolutely I don't.
Speaker 2: Think that they were intentionally going for what we're picking up.
Speaker 3: But I don't know that we would be picking that
Speaker 3: up if they didn't put some of the other stuff
Speaker 3: in this, you know, especially if you're.
Speaker 2: Talking about trigger warnings.
Speaker 5: If you're warning us already know, hey, there's like race
Speaker 5: discussions in here, Why would we even pick that up
Speaker 5: if there's no black people in this fucking film.
Speaker 2: There's just this green woman. So It's like, nah, y'all
Speaker 2: were doing this and then you do it.
Speaker 1: It was just weird.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say that they're racist or anything like that.
Speaker 2: It just felt really weird. And then you made like
Speaker 2: what did she die for? I mean she didn't die,
Speaker 2: of course, but I mean like what was she supposed to.
Speaker 1: Be dying for?
Speaker 2: Because the animals said that, like, this world won't be
Speaker 2: a better place until.
Speaker 3: You're dead, and but so she believed that and was like, yes,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go out here and have her throw some
Speaker 3: water on me and I'm gonna die. Because the people
Speaker 3: they wasn't ready to accept that her as a good
Speaker 3: person because all the propaganda have been put out there.
Speaker 2: But it's like, yeah, but.
Speaker 3: If they showed like Glinda being an ally and then
Speaker 3: proving that like Anable and the Wizard were actually frauds,
Speaker 3: then this could have worked. It just felt weird. It
Speaker 3: was like, if you're going to retell this story, why
Speaker 3: are you telling it this way? And if you're trying
Speaker 3: to have a tragic ending, this ain't.
Speaker 2: The movie for it.
Speaker 1: And they had a gang spike, a gang of monkeys
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: It's crazy when you put a black person in that role.
Speaker 2: You you gotta be careful.
Speaker 3: I agree, Yes, you gotta be And you can't just
Speaker 3: paint her green and think we're not going to pick
Speaker 3: up on this.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you think we would feel it? Because when
Speaker 1: I was watching, I was like, I kind of felt
Speaker 1: like I would be thinking the same if it was reversed.
Speaker 1: Do you think the roles were reversed if I was
Speaker 1: a white woman, I think it would have felt better
Speaker 1: for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. But then.
Speaker 1: People would have still complained like, oh, this is some
Speaker 1: white night ship.
Speaker 2: So there was really no way to make this.
Speaker 1: No if Glinda, if Glinda was Alphaba, and.
Speaker 5: If Ariana Grande was Alphabe, yes, okay, if if they
Speaker 5: switch characters, right, would we still look.
Speaker 1: At it in the same way.
Speaker 5: No, I'm saying that people still complain because if Ariana
Speaker 5: Grande was playing Alphaba and she died, then it would
Speaker 5: have felt kind of white knightish.
Speaker 1: And oh, white knightish and maybe woke to Do you
Speaker 1: think they would have tried.
Speaker 5: To be like, oh, well, the white woman died, so
Speaker 5: this black woman could be great. I don't know, I
Speaker 5: don't know any anyway it goes, this would have felt weird. Yeah,
Speaker 5: So I don't think they really had much of a
Speaker 5: an option, but this still felt weird, especially when she's
Speaker 5: in the closet. She's like, yeah, you know, being really quiet,
Speaker 5: and she's silently watching this black woman getting harder.
Speaker 1: It felt weird.
Speaker 5: It felt weird, especially by a white woman, by a
Speaker 5: white woman, and she threw water on her.
Speaker 2: You know, they say we don't bathe can't swim and
Speaker 2: can't swim, right.
Speaker 1: It's just all of it felt Yeah, it did. And
Speaker 1: then she slept with the white man. It was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you you know you white black white people don't like
Speaker 1: when black folks sleep with their race.
Speaker 2: You know, she was exiled for it. Yeah, but Dorothy
Speaker 2: didn't know all that. She didn't care. She wanted was
Speaker 2: her way back home.
Speaker 1: That's all she was like, I don't know what. Look,
Speaker 1: I just want to go home. I ain't involved in
Speaker 1: any of this bullshit. You women to get the broom, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll get you get the broom. She got a broom too,
Speaker 1: like a maid. Man, stay woke, talk about it, Stay woke.
Speaker 1: But but again, I look, if people listening, I don't
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. There's an interjection here going on
Speaker 1: with with you know, that's just how I'm looking at
Speaker 1: it as a black man, and it's not just how
Speaker 1: you're looking at I'm just saying I just want to
Speaker 1: you know, it's there, man. I don't know if it
Speaker 1: was intended to be there. Even intent doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: But nevertheless, they've seen all they've seen all the criticism,
Speaker 4: like they say, got triggered warners in front of their movies.
Speaker 2: But it was filmed back to back, so it's not
Speaker 2: like they can go and just do the whole.
Speaker 1: They could, but I mean they have. I mean, look
Speaker 1: at Sonic and all these other movies they had to
Speaker 1: redo that may have been about I can't remember. Was
Speaker 1: it about the racial stuff too or just the animal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's about the racial stuff too with Sonic.
Speaker 1: All right? Man? Uh So anyway, Alphaba is melted.
Speaker 2: If y'all can see what he's doing, you understand why
Speaker 2: he's always like this.
Speaker 1: He's watching.
Speaker 2: Oh they do.
Speaker 1: But uh but later on we learned that Alphaba faked
Speaker 1: her death. Did you guys think was gone for real?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: I did too, thought she was dead. I thought I
Speaker 1: was like, there's some bullshit. They don't killed this damn woman.
Speaker 3: I didn't feel like there was no reason for her
Speaker 3: like not to be right. That just makes me think,
Speaker 3: Dorothy dumb as fuck? Right, how did you not see
Speaker 3: her go through a trap door?
Speaker 1: She's a magic she's a witch, so she probably used magic.
Speaker 1: That's the only way I'm gonna make this make sense
Speaker 1: because I had the same question. But I was like,
Speaker 1: maybe when she was melting your created steam and she just.
Speaker 2: I don't know, all right, No, that makes sense, But
Speaker 2: that makes sense.
Speaker 1: That's the only way I could make it make sense
Speaker 1: because I'm like, she didn't.
Speaker 2: Hear the door, and the scarecrow found her.
Speaker 1: He came back because he knew where she was. Wait,
Speaker 1: how do you know?
Speaker 2: Smell her funky ass and she ain't watch it? I
Speaker 2: smell a steaking as she over here? Showhere somewhere? Yep. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but how did he know where?
Speaker 1: So where she was at?
Speaker 2: When?
Speaker 1: When did when did Elpha but tell him?
Speaker 2: This was the plan? It was it was part of
Speaker 2: the plan.
Speaker 4: So this is the part where I said they trying
Speaker 4: to connect it to the original because in the original,
Speaker 4: when she has the water thrown on her, Scarecrow tells, uh,
Speaker 4: Dorothy that the water is over there. It's Scarecrow that
Speaker 4: says it. So I guess the way that rewriting it
Speaker 4: is that it was always a part of the plan.
Speaker 4: Scarecrow is always in on them leaving together. But when
Speaker 4: did she tell him? Because she hadn't even talked to
Speaker 4: him in the original movie or even in the original
Speaker 4: In original you see him, I think you see him?
Speaker 3: Like, sorry, No, I mean when did When did Alpha
Speaker 3: but talk to the Scarecrow because you don't even know
Speaker 3: he was alive until the end of the movie, remember,
Speaker 3: because when she sees them, she goes, oh my god,
Speaker 3: you're alive. So that doesn't even make any sense because
Speaker 3: when would she have told him, Hey, my plan is that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I get you, I get you that. But I
Speaker 4: was just trying to piece it together that like that's
Speaker 4: what they were trying to trying. All of that ship
Speaker 4: was forced to me. Every one of the original Wizard
Speaker 4: of Oz connections were forced to me.
Speaker 2: Except the line I disagree with you. Everything else I
Speaker 2: agree except the Lion's everything else I agree with you.
Speaker 2: It's something they worked The Lion in was cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the way, Yeah, the Lion had a little bit
Speaker 4: more backstory because he was in the first one exactly
Speaker 4: the other ones they just kind of plopped them in
Speaker 4: this one. Yes, yeah, I agree, Yeah, but I wanted
Speaker 4: to trust on the trigger warned real quick. So I
Speaker 4: said this on the last one, but just to give
Speaker 4: you know, a little bit more insight. Uh, it was
Speaker 4: on the screen. Crimination and bullying the primary thing throughout
Speaker 4: the film is explicit and widespread discrimination faced by Alpha,
Speaker 4: but the green skin they put it in quote woman
Speaker 4: who is mocked, bully and humiliated because of her appearance.
Speaker 4: This is an allegory for real world racism and prejudice.
Speaker 2: So they said that this was so that's your fault.
Speaker 2: That's your fault that we're reading it this way.
Speaker 1: Cool, because they I guess they were. They know, they knew,
Speaker 1: yeah all right, so yeah this ain't us. They knew
Speaker 1: that's had the trigger one. Yeah cool, So somehow I
Speaker 1: get you, right, I think it's some bell, but I understand,
Speaker 1: we got got to make it make sense. So I
Speaker 1: guess if they love Oz, she and her trap door
Speaker 1: reunites with and she can't turn it back to your
Speaker 1: human she's a sorry as I don't know, she like,
Speaker 1: she's just like she's lying.
Speaker 5: You're beautiful, Yeah, because she used the same word that
Speaker 5: he used remember earlier when he said that rather insulting
Speaker 5: ship where she was. He was like, oh, you're beautiful,
Speaker 5: and she said something like oh no, I'm not. And
Speaker 5: he's like, well, yeah, it's a different perspective.
Speaker 2: It's like, bitch, that is not nice.
Speaker 3: How would you feel if someone said that ship to you,
Speaker 3: you're very You're a very handsome man from a different
Speaker 3: sh No one really tells me that.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if you think about it in this perspective,
Speaker 2: she just called me ugly.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why she turned it into a scarecrow. Make
Speaker 1: him look better, no, make him a little funked up. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know you let's talk about perspective. Then now you're
Speaker 1: on my level. Now what now we we're saying that's ship.
Speaker 1: I forgot about that that was but uh yeah, I
Speaker 1: did not know he was a scaracter until the movie
Speaker 1: was over.
Speaker 5: You did not know because I couldn't tell, like what
Speaker 5: the funk was on his face. It looks like that
Speaker 5: that glimmer ship from Twilight.
Speaker 1: They never show his face until the end. They just
Speaker 1: saw kind of walking all funny, but even his face.
Speaker 2: I was like okay, and I was like, oh, that
Speaker 2: was supposed to be the scarecrow. I said the same thing.
Speaker 2: I said, it's supposed to be. I was not sure
Speaker 2: it was the same. Just like you, this is bad.
Speaker 1: Y'all could have some straws his face or something anything.
Speaker 1: I was surprised they did. Yeah, they just yeah, it
Speaker 1: was weird. Yeah, I guess they wanted to keep his
Speaker 1: looks int that.
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 1: So this was the weirdest part to me. And I
Speaker 1: don't even think it needed to be in the movie.
Speaker 1: Uh ch History presents Glinda with the green Elitzer, and
Speaker 1: Glinda realizes the Wizard is Elfebu's father. What the fuck
Speaker 1: a shame? He leaves? Ohs what in the entire hell?
Speaker 4: So in the first one, y'all remember that you know
Speaker 4: my mom, her mom was sleeping with the guy, but
Speaker 4: they never revealed his they never showed his face.
Speaker 2: He's probably.
Speaker 1: Oh so the affair that she was having the wizard, Yeah, yeah, because.
Speaker 2: Apparently that's how she got her power, although why didn't
Speaker 2: he turn green? Because he was drinking what.
Speaker 3: And that's how she got her powers too, right, But
Speaker 3: the wizard don't have powers. That's why I didn't understand it.
Speaker 3: But they was like the mixture of both worlds is
Speaker 3: how she became so powerful, And I was like, what
Speaker 3: worlds are they talking about? I thought I missed something
Speaker 3: in the first They're probably talking about the power of
Speaker 3: being biracial. I'm sure logically love this movie.
Speaker 2: Drake wrote this, right man, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: Again, every time I was confused, I just assumed I
Speaker 5: missed something, so I just wasn't even holding it against
Speaker 5: But it didn't.
Speaker 2: Hit No, I didn't. It was supposed to be like
Speaker 2: a big reveal, too right, It didn't hit it all. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's supposed to be.
Speaker 1: We didn't see him suspecting like there was like it
Speaker 1: was nothing, Like she didn't even think, are you my
Speaker 1: real daddy? Nothing, none of that.
Speaker 2: But it's like, how do you even know? Though you're
Speaker 2: making guesses? Right, well, since you were drinking that green
Speaker 2: stuff and she turned green, you're oh, what hell about
Speaker 2: you know? Do you know?
Speaker 1: You know you have powers?
Speaker 2: You can't see the fucking future or nothing? Shut your
Speaker 2: ass up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fuck out of here, you should leave. Glenda restores
Speaker 1: animal rights. Uh, Marble is arrested, and you know, she
Speaker 1: becomes the true leader of OZ and the Grimmery activates
Speaker 1: for her, and now she got magic, white girl magic.
Speaker 2: Well of them made it do that, right, I thought
Speaker 2: she did.
Speaker 1: It looked like she did transfer something to her to
Speaker 1: give her magic. So I saw some hands on it
Speaker 1: or something. At the end of the day, the white
Speaker 1: woman still gets.
Speaker 2: Get all the power and the book. She was able
Speaker 2: to rule the land while the other one is exiled
Speaker 2: into the land of nothing rights in the ghetto. Crazy.
Speaker 2: That's how. That's how they did this movie. So weird.
Speaker 2: It's so weird, so weird, it's like in your face.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So yeah, we run the world and that is it,
Speaker 2: and we will continue to left part out.
Speaker 3: It ends with the camera's floating and they're in a
Speaker 3: field and she like whispers, which makes it seem like
Speaker 3: it's going to be a continuation.
Speaker 1: No, I can't do another one. No, I saw you're
Speaker 1: not talking about Alfaba and the Scarecrow walking out.
Speaker 2: Alphaba and Glinda are in like a field.
Speaker 1: Oh, I thought they were reminiscent.
Speaker 3: I thought that was a flashback, like say something in
Speaker 3: her ear, but we never know what she said. That's
Speaker 3: not a flashback to it's a flashback.
Speaker 5: But like that was supposed to be like powerful or something,
Speaker 5: because they don't reveal what she whispered.
Speaker 1: Oh, I thought it was just I didn't take anything
Speaker 1: from that. Yeah, I thought they were just trying to
Speaker 1: show them back on screen.
Speaker 2: When it ended, I was like, I am so lost.
Speaker 2: What the hell is?
Speaker 1: There will not be a part three?
Speaker 2: I want to know what the fuck she said? Me too?
Speaker 2: How was it.
Speaker 1: They're selling? Bit you? Oh man?
Speaker 2: So they said it's a call back to the original
Speaker 2: Broadway musicals.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that is.
Speaker 2: Image that actually makes sense. That's kind of cool.
Speaker 4: Then, okay, we're creating the scene with Glenda whispers in
Speaker 4: the alphabe's ear.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's kind of cool. That's kind of cool. This
Speaker 2: movie is still trash, but that was kind of yeah,
Speaker 2: so that's paying homage.
Speaker 1: Cool. Well, I don't have anything else dirty. They should
Speaker 1: have just shared him, they could have. Yeah, they were friends,
Speaker 1: best friends, right, best.
Speaker 3: They could have gotten them an agerie that would have
Speaker 3: been might as well. That's that's gonna be wicked three.
Speaker 1: Oh man? All right, man, well let you get let
Speaker 1: us know what you guys think about.
Speaker 2: I don't care.
Speaker 1: Uh for good? Right?
Speaker 2: For good?
Speaker 1: Yeah? For good?
Speaker 2: I want to leave this world for oh you stupid?
Speaker 2: Was it for good? Its good as hell.
Speaker 1: It was so good. She kept me alive, bro, she
Speaker 1: didn't want me to die the Lira did.
Speaker 4: It was that good, I will say, even though she
Speaker 4: got exiled. Well, they went to the Land of Nothing,
Speaker 4: and I'm glad they didn't.
Speaker 2: Actually kill her. I would have that would have really
Speaker 2: sent me if they would have killed killed her, kill her, really,
Speaker 2: I'd rather than kill her.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad they didn't actually kill her personally.
Speaker 1: Yeah I feel yeah, me too, Yeah, I was. I
Speaker 1: was like, there's no way they killed her, Like, there's
Speaker 1: no way. I was like, but she dies in the odes,
Speaker 1: so I thought that that's what they really did. So
Speaker 1: I was like, but it was a relief on with
Speaker 1: you guys that she did not die out in the
Speaker 1: hot desert just walking, so at least.
Speaker 2: But it's no rain. Well, thank god, she don't wash
Speaker 2: yourself and this.
Speaker 1: Was lean away.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 2: Oh god, they'd have killed her in after they found
Speaker 2: her in that land of nothing that they have killed
Speaker 2: her again, right Brown, right, and they wouldn't found that.
Speaker 2: Damn lion. You are too much like Bufoster killed all
Speaker 2: the monkeys.
Speaker 4: All the monkeys are dead as hell, take their wings crying.
Speaker 2: Y'all are not flying in my movie, the monkeys didn't
Speaker 2: even talking to the end. I thought.
Speaker 1: I kept waiting for the Planet of the Apes, the
Speaker 1: Planet of the Apes scene with Caesar. Did you say, no,
Speaker 1: apes stronger together?
Speaker 2: You got some fucking nerve putting flying monkeys against the woman.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think y'all brought this up last time because she
Speaker 4: dates lean Away. Who does Cynthia?
Speaker 2: She does not?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, she dates lean Away and they probably saw
Speaker 3: him was mad as ship.
Speaker 4: Why are you going back to Yeah, they dave public.
Speaker 4: They've been public since twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2: That was cute. I thought she was dating a ground
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: No, you didn't.
Speaker 5: I think that's just proo woman being No. I think
Speaker 5: that's just knowing a white world, we can't fight. The
Speaker 5: went when that dude ran up on her and put
Speaker 5: his arm around her and she jumped in. Yeah, but
Speaker 5: it's been a couple of instances like that. I think
Speaker 5: she's just Cynthia Ribo.
Speaker 3: Seems like she comes from a real background, like she
Speaker 3: done fought some motherfuckers before I get to tell by
Speaker 3: her face. She don't put up a bullshit all around
Speaker 3: the Grande and never had to fight her entirely exactly.
Speaker 2: It's like, man, it looks crazy. It looks crazy. Cynthia
Speaker 2: went over there with the arms, like what the fun
Speaker 2: cut up? Motherfucker? What was security? Bro? They had? They
Speaker 2: new was there? Like like we take off today, Cynthy.
Speaker 2: Cynthia got it you see your arms?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Walking around bro. She is skinny though they both she's skinny,
Speaker 2: but she got powered.
Speaker 1: She like she got that Bruce lead that Bruce Lee
Speaker 1: been working out right.
Speaker 2: She could tell she works out. I wouldn't.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't try her s. Cynthion Rebo is a great
Speaker 3: I would. I do want to say that Cynthia Rebo
Speaker 3: is a great actor. She was really really I want
Speaker 3: her to be in other stuff. And her her singing
Speaker 3: was amazing. I loved her performance in this one.
Speaker 1: Vocally you didn't like to sup Bride. She brought some
Speaker 1: soul to songs that don't have feel. You know that thing.
Speaker 2: A good actor. I hope she. I hope she has
Speaker 2: other roles that utilize her better.
Speaker 1: All right, well we leave it there. We cut you guys.
Speaker 1: Next time we got peace