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Speaker 1: The Frames per Second Podcast. Welcome everybody to a new

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Speaker 1: episode of The Frames per Second Podcast. I am one

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Speaker 1: of your four host Kenneth Bian's joining me. I have Rod,

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Speaker 1: Mike and Spike Yo. We are here to review part

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Speaker 1: two of Wicked. It's called too good.

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Speaker 2: It was not called too good.

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Speaker 1: It's not for goods Wicked for good?

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Speaker 2: What do you think about these whole back of my Hey,

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Speaker 2: I had to be called a wicked boy. She was

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Speaker 2: good too.

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Speaker 1: That's what she said. That's what she said when she

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Speaker 1: got with that white guy.

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Speaker 2: She jumped on my broomstick.

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Speaker 1: She was like, Oh, I'm feeling sort of wicked. There

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Speaker 1: was a laugh at people laughed at loud in the theater.

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Speaker 1: They laugh in your theater. Yeah, yeah, they said that line.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of corny last Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The movies directed by John m chu who did the

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Speaker 1: first one. He did in the Heights. He did Crazy

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Speaker 1: Rich Asians. It was written by Winnie Holsman and Dana Fox,

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Speaker 1: adapting at two of the two thousand and three Broadway

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Speaker 1: musical by Stephen Schwartz and Holzman. Uh. And it's based

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Speaker 1: on the you know well, they kind of rode around

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Speaker 1: the original Wizard of Oz as well. The cast has

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Speaker 1: Ariana Grande who's Glinda, Cynthia Revo who's Elfheba, Jonathan Bailey

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Speaker 1: who's fire, oh, and some other folks. Jonathan Bailey was

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Speaker 1: on What is Happening behind Me? Sorry? I forgot what

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Speaker 1: show he was on?

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Speaker 2: Which guy?

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Speaker 1: H Ridgardon? Yeah, you watched Bridgingdon's spike.

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Speaker 2: That sounds like a spike as you gotta watch.

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Speaker 1: Try. I tried.

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Speaker 3: You tried to watch it, but it wasn't bad. I

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Speaker 3: just don't know why I finished. Okay, but yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: definitely my type of show mate.

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Speaker 1: Damn. But yeah, it's it's basically the part too to this. So,

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Speaker 1: uh so we reviewed the first one? We did? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we reviewed the first one.

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Speaker 3: Mike's suggestion, No what it was? I was trying to swallow.

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Speaker 3: But I do not remember this being my suggestion.

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Speaker 2: I know you don't wicked.

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Speaker 4: Yes, the first one absolutely a suggestion that you apologize

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Speaker 4: to us.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not just watching it.

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Speaker 1: I was wondering why we ended up reviewing the first one.

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Speaker 4: Mike say, yo, it's you know, it's one of those.

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Speaker 4: It's a big movie, and yeah, I think we should

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Speaker 4: try it. Yeah, you did well, that's my one.

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Speaker 3: Y'all have plenty, so I'm not apologizing for this one though,

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Speaker 3: because we did not have to do this.

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Speaker 1: We didn't have to do part two. We had you

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Speaker 1: said you.

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Speaker 4: Want, and on that video you said you wasn't gonna

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Speaker 4: do too dang, so here you are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if I had known I had said that, I

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Speaker 2: would have skipped this. Yeah, you said you should have

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Speaker 2: started the mutiny because I would have.

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Speaker 1: So did you regret going to watch it? Because I

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Speaker 1: know you were? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: This was This was terrible, terrible. This was fucking terrible.

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Speaker 5: This was worse than the first one. And I was

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Speaker 5: I was literally gonna come in here and be like,

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Speaker 5: we didn't need to do this. But I remember requesting

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Speaker 5: the first one. But we did not have to do this, y'all.

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Speaker 5: I don't think anybody is being like, damn, I can't

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Speaker 5: wait to see what frame says wicked part.

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Speaker 4: We did the first one, and they were hoping that

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Speaker 4: we would change our tune and do this one.

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Speaker 2: It's what I saw in the comment.

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Speaker 1: I think that you were probably right. We probably could

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Speaker 1: have opted out, even though it would have been weird

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Speaker 1: to not do the second one, But I don't know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was. Yeah, I hope we don't. My idea have

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Speaker 1: concerns about doing a disservice to the people that actually

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Speaker 1: liked the show. That was my biggest concern, for people

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Speaker 1: to actually get it, that liked musical, that appreciate the

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Speaker 1: story that's more than their wheelhouse. But nonetheless we hear now. So, Spike,

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Speaker 1: you were not on the first one you tried? But

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Speaker 1: did I finish the first one? No? God, did you

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Speaker 1: feel like when you were watching this you needed that context?

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Speaker 1: And did you like this one?

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Speaker 3: I didn't feel like I missed anything. I could tell

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Speaker 3: enjoyed this more than an hour watching the first one

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Speaker 3: because I was in the theater, so it did more

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Speaker 3: and just do this whole musical number. And I wonder

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Speaker 3: how they got popular hours watch this because it kind

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Speaker 3: of I understand that this is a musical, but me

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Speaker 3: not liking musical instead irritated me.

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Speaker 2: I don't like just breaking out in the song and dance.

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Speaker 1: Did it feels like to you guys that there were

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Speaker 1: more songs in this one?

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Speaker 2: It felt like it was less to me?

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Speaker 1: Really, yeah, I felt like it was more to me.

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Speaker 2: Every damn you almost don't remember the first one?

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Speaker 1: Nah, I don't.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the first one, man, the first one it is.

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Speaker 4: I think it's definitely more. And the first one was longer.

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Speaker 1: The first three hours was almost three hours. But maybe

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Speaker 1: maybe because maybe because this is supposed to run like consecutively,

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Speaker 1: maybe since if what you were saying, Rod, there were

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Speaker 1: so many songs, more songs in that one than this one.

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Speaker 1: That's why it felt like because I'm I'm with you

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Speaker 1: and I don't know how you feel, rot like the

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Speaker 1: beginning of this movie was song heavy, and I'm like, God, dang,

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Speaker 1: can't y'all just talk talk?

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Speaker 2: Can we get a regular conversation?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: But that being said, what I did appreciate about the

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Speaker 3: movie is the reveal of like the tin Man the Scarecrow,

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Speaker 3: Like they were more. It was more Wizard of Ours adjacent,

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Speaker 3: not that I know how jacent the first one was.

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Speaker 3: Other than I think I saw them running.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't it wasn't it was more of that in

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Speaker 3: Those things stuck out to me and they were done well,

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Speaker 3: those things. Since I like Wizard of Ours that that

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Speaker 3: was good to me. But just overall as a musical.

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Speaker 1: And Wiz the Wiz, you know, the Wiz and Wizard

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Speaker 1: both both of my life.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, this what made this good is how adjacent

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Speaker 1: So that was something for you to connect.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I like the lion thing and the ten

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Speaker 1: Gotcha? So roight, what do you think about the What's

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Speaker 4: I think overall execution of this is is done. It's

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Speaker 4: done well. Like from that standport of fans of this movie,

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Speaker 4: I don't, like I said before about the first.

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Speaker 4: This musicals is just not my wheelhouse, so I would

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Speaker 4: just come on here just straight bashing it if I

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Speaker 4: just solely went off of that. But as far as

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Speaker 4: like the way they execute some of the performances in here,

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Speaker 4: I think are done well. I think they did a

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Speaker 4: good job with this Wicked series for what it is, right,

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Speaker 4: I had my own personal dislikes about it. About you

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Speaker 4: and then obviously the musical numbers.

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Speaker 2: But I did. I think I do enjoy this on

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Speaker 4: Not that that's saying much, but I do enjoy it

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Speaker 4: which is why I like Wizard of Oz, because Wizard

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Speaker 4: Hearts has a lot of story with musical elements or whatever.

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Speaker 4: I feel like they kind of pulled and pulled that

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Speaker 4: to back, like, that's how I feel like the first

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Speaker 4: one was. This one wasn't so much. I feel like

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Speaker 4: we got a lot more dollogue. It seemed like they

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Speaker 4: had to sing about everything and the other one. This one,

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Speaker 4: they had their moments where it was just just acting

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Speaker 4: or whatever. And that's what I can appreciate about about

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Speaker 4: this one. So it was it was it was more tolerable,

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Speaker 4: I'll say that for me than the first one. First one,

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Speaker 4: And it's shorter too, so that I appreciated that too.

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Speaker 4: The other one's almost three hours. This one's right a

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Speaker 4: little over too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, two fifteen, Yeah, two hours fifteen. It's the runtime.

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Speaker 4: I do like that too with Spike, like the I've

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Speaker 4: always liked how this is, just to see how they

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Speaker 4: were gonna intertwine the original Wizard of Oz to this

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Speaker 1: That's always been a triggument. But I felt like we

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Speaker 2: What was it about?

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Speaker 1: Like, I don't know, they don't they don't maybe I don't.

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Speaker 4: Don't know if it's a licensing thing, I just don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they want to put the emphasis on that.

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Speaker 1: I think that that's what I was. It didn't that

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Speaker 2: That's what That's what it was. They didn't say total.

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Speaker 5: No, that was that was supposed to be a joke,

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Speaker 5: because she's supposed to be goofy oh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like a quote unquote dumb blonde.

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Speaker 2: She called the dog something those well, Dodo or something

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Speaker 1: So overall, I mean, overall, I don't think it was

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Speaker 1: that bad. I did see people that have watched the

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Speaker 1: play say that the second part is the worst part. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so it took half of the movie for me to

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Speaker 1: It was just a lot of sin, a lot of

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Speaker 1: And then there was a point where I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: how the hell we're gonna wrap this up? You know?

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Speaker 1: But yes, but the first the first act and a half,

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Speaker 1: was like, bro, I can't we just I'm just here

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Speaker 1: something I'm not gonna get find by, you know. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it's been five years after the last event,

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Speaker 1: and you have Alphaba, who was fully labeled the wicked witch,

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Speaker 1: siding in the forest fighting for animal rights. That's still there,

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Speaker 1: and you know, the propaganda machine has turned everybody against her.

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Speaker 1: And then you have Glinda. Is she going by Glinda? Now?

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Speaker 1: It was Glinda. It's just.

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Speaker 2: Thought what he thought it was quick and consus.

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Speaker 4: I thought he actually first I thought, yeah, I think

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Speaker 4: he might have just put it in. No, he literally

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Speaker 4: asked me, I don't but it in that's Spike that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he said it was terrible. We should have did this.

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Speaker 2: Oh you did ask him, you said, how did you?

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Speaker 2: You're right, You're right.

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Speaker 1: So Glinda now is the spokesperson for the wizard you know,

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Speaker 4: It was hard to watch. Yeah, this one, it was

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Speaker 1: y'all want to that what a child if you had

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Speaker 1: Is there a name marrible to the bubble station? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Did we open with it? They were building it, They

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Speaker 2: Was pretty cool. That was pretty cool monkey off though they.

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Speaker 1: I believe for him looking for alphabet because he man

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Speaker 1: You sure, I don't know she was hidden good? Well,

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Speaker 1: Okay, I could.

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Speaker 2: Go both ways. Yeah, I'm not. I can lean towards

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Speaker 1: I do remember the facial expression.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was wondering though, Okay, I can see that.

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Speaker 3: Man, this is before they sick the monkeys on her right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that was later. Yeah, but yeah, I

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Speaker 2: So who was chasing her here?

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Speaker 1: The monkeys were chasing her when she was flying. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: monkeys were chasing after her. Yeah, black on black crime.

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Speaker 2: Well, she sucked him up.

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Speaker 2: That was sucked up.

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Speaker 2: That was like cheating and whatever.

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Speaker 3: Well, you don't think she put out Nah damn, let's wait,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she was bad as hell.

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Speaker 2: Before it.

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Speaker 4: That was a call out on you, Like we didn't

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Speaker 1: They had an underground they had an underground railroad. They

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Speaker 1: It was very in your face.

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Speaker 3: I think it was very obvious what they were doing

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Speaker 1: That's kind of like like ghetto, We're just gonna go

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think it were very They were very

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Speaker 1: All right, since here I was really not trying this

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Speaker 2: Trigger warning in other countries we talked about this just

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Speaker 3: Uh, racial tones in it, the animal rights ship, all

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Speaker 2: I I forgot about the race that's making fun of

441
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 2: people that can't walk. Can't walk like a sister, yes,

442
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 2: like her sister. Why do you need you couldn't just

443
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 2: like a crippled as sister? That one. God, I'm all right.

444
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 2: They didn't her sister. No, I don't, he added it

445
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 2: on right, he added on her sister looked like sambue

446
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 2: L Jackson unbreakable.

447
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 3: Ship.

448
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 1: That's wrong with.

449
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:44,199
Speaker 2: God, damn, It's like, I can't see it. Why they

450
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 2: do that this movie?

451
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 1: Man?

452
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 2: They do that on part they did like, I ain't

453
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 2: even they did. Why they do that? I never even

454
00:23:55,000 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 2: thought about it? That's the fun, said Dad? What bones

455
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 2: many do that? This movie is a trip?

456
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 3: Bro?

457
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 2: They want the same colors and everything. At first, I

458
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 2: was like, what are you talking about? Jesus right now,

459
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 2: I gotta pull it up. I gotta pull it up.

460
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 1: Just like it.

461
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Why did they do that? Why did they

462
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 2: do that?

463
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god, oh my god? Why did they do this? Mike?

464
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: Why did they do that.

465
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 2: They could have did. They could have did anything else

466
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 2: when I have else. They could have given the braids.

467
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 2: They could have give him braids. They could have gave

468
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 2: her a parent of man, a twist out or something

469
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 2: like god, bro, they did. They did the same cut

470
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 2: Jesus damn. I didn't even notice that. I ain't know

471
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 2: what you was talking about. At first, I could not

472
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 2: see it.

473
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why Barkas wanted to believe her. Yeah, so Alphe,

474
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: but you know, we running to the sister Sonessa Roles

475
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: Andnessa now rules munchkin Land and she's like gone full authoritarian. Man,

476
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: She's banning the Muskets for traveling. When she found out,

477
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: O boy was like, hey, I think it's time for

478
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: me to move on. She thought she was about to

479
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: get a ring bro.

480
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 2: I don't know why she thought that.

481
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like, na, he tried to he went

482
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 1: to the train.

483
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, she turned into a servant.

484
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: Yeah he was bad, but yeah, but yeah, so that

485
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: whole thing went back. So he came back, and you know,

486
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 1: it was fucked up. It was it was, Yeah, what

487
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: made you think you're gonna want you? That's what I'm saying,

488
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 1: you know.

489
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, trying to force him into a relationship.

490
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: That she ain't gonna work. It was fucked up when

491
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: he was like, you know what, I gotta go, this

492
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: is my last chance. She was about to get married.

493
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 1: I need to go trying to catch from my last shot.

494
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 2: Bro way that he's the fact that he just said

495
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 2: that ship.

496
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: Well he was fed up with her at that point,

497
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: because she was like at that point, yeah, he was mad,

498
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: but no, that was fucked up though. I'm with you though, right,

499
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 1: he was just outright said that.

500
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 2: He didn't owe her ship just because she liked him.

501
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 2: Don't mean he had to like her.

502
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 4: He played He played himself though he did. You don't

503
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 4: want to start trying to make act like he likes

504
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 4: her for real. You get closer to Blinda.

505
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, picked up on game, she did.

506
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 2: I don't know why they came back to that though,

507
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: like because she did pick up on it. That was

508
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,719
Speaker 2: in the first one. Yeah, it was in the first one.

509
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: She knew, she knew. I think she overheard him or

510
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 1: some ship. She probably thought she could chef that's what.

511
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, like, yeah, people do that.

512
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 4: I said women, But people do that. They think they

513
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 4: could change people.

514
00:26:55,840 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, casino, yeah exactly, you know, we

515
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 2: did do that.

516
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: But but and in this particular scene, there was a

517
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: moment where Elfa becomes comes in and she and chanced

518
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: Nansa's shoes so she can move.

519
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 2: She's flying.

520
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 1: Uh. That's the only thing I felt, Nasa. I felt

521
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: why Nansa was like Elpha bu yo when when she

522
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: before she said it, I was thinking the same thing.

523
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: And then she said it.

524
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 2: She said, it's five.

525
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 3: Years and five years you couldn't figure how to make

526
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 3: me walk, and all you can do is come up

527
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 3: here and turn me into a puppet.

528
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 2: And I'm up in the air, fucking floating.

529
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 1: Legs, just dangling. Ship.

530
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: She was smiling though, just the first time she's been right.

531
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 2: But that was foullas ship. Alphaba is a fucking asshole.

532
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 3: In a little bit I've seen in the first of

533
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 3: her sisters trying to act like she didn't want her help,

534
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 3: like Elfabus should have known she's lying. If I can

535
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 3: make you walk, she would be oh ship, oh cool.

536
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: Well even still she wasn't walking, she was in the air.

537
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 2: That's what I say. Elfe was a fucking asshole.

538
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: And what them shoes, gonna do them shoes?

539
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: Didn't do ship, but make her fly?

540
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: That's it.

541
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 2: You couldn't give her some walking shoes. Why did she

542
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 2: give for them shoes? I have no idea. This movie

543
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 2: is weird. I thought I thought she wanted them to

544
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 2: look good or some ship. I seen it, but good

545
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 2: in it for why.

546
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: She was rolling around?

547
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 2: No, man, you could have gave him some rims then tires.

548
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: What are we doing?

549
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: This movie is so weird. Yeah, but yeah, Bok, you know,

550
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: tries to run away to confess his feelings to Glinda's up.

551
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 4: She's she's the government that right, Yeah, and her mom

552
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:48,959
Speaker 4: was the governor too, so I think that was kind

553
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 4: of passed down to her.

554
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, because she she had did something else that was

555
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: fucked up with the animals.

556
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 2: Right, she was trying to make them get a permanent

557
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 2: for traveling.

558
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, that's right, that's right, and uh little

559
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: people do it. Yeah. Bock called her out on that,

560
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: and then that's when he was like, yeah, I need

561
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: to move on. That's when she was like, all right

562
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: with your ass on that ship too. Immediate action, yeah, immediately.

563
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 2: Yeah that man?

564
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, but yeah, so but yeah, that nessa decides

565
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: she's gonna cast a spell and to stop him from

566
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: leaving to go confess his love, and it didn't work.

567
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: It shrunk his heart and uh turned him into the

568
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: ten man.

569
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 2: Oh my god. I thought it was cool, though, just

570
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: to reveal it really was.

571
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 5: Terrible because it doesn't make any sense and in context

572
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 5: of what happens when the Wizard of Oz, I don't

573
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 5: think it makes sense for him or the straw Man.

574
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. The straw Man was weird. That was at

575
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: the end, right. I didn't know if I was. I

576
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: couldn't tell if I was like, what the fuck is that?

577
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: The scarecrow, Yeah, I didn't know what the fun it

578
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: was either his face glittering. Yeah, but no, I thought

579
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: this was an interesting or creative way to create The

580
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: character did seem forced, but I just like the Wizard

581
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: of Okay, that's we saw When he mentioned as hard,

582
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: did you think, tim Man?

583
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: I ain't think until he started chopping the door, now.

584
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I needed that. Until the metal went on his hands,

585
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: I was like, what the hell? Yeah, that's a full

586
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: of ship. Though she blamed, she was like, he won't

587
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: need a heart, Like, damn, I'm talking her. When she

588
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: blamed uh her sister.

589
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, likes.

590
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: She read the spells.

591
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she read it wrong, and Alphabet tried to help, didn't.

592
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: She turned into yeah, she's just said his life by

593
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 2: turning them into the man, right, Yeah, but but the

594
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 2: other girl killing better? Sorry ass which man, that's.

595
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: What I was thinking. That's the best you could do

596
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: is and close him and down metal? Where did all

597
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: that metal come from? Anyway?

598
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: It's magic?

599
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: Was that the simple word magic? But that was Spiker.

600
00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: She was like, yeah, he a't gonna need a hard

601
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,239
Speaker 1: but he was about to chopnessa ass up.

602
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: He was get away, Yeah, I can run.

603
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: But anyway, so this part just felt stuff.

604
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, because why do you have an a if you.

605
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 5: What?

606
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 2: Look?

607
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: What you thinking about this? You know? Tim Man revealed.

608
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 4: It looked cool, but like I said, it felt forced

609
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 4: because like we know, Tim Man has an accent.

610
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: Why do you have an accent? This moment? It was magic? Yeah,

611
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: but why why why do your max in this moment?

612
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: Why you just turn to the Timm cut what you

613
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 2: just said?

614
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna move on. Sorry, look at I'm sorry.

615
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: He was angry though. He was.

616
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you ain't got no dick no more I was

617
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: a slave. Now I was a slave.

618
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 3: I was a little person slave even though he's regular height,

619
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 3: and then you turn me into a old person.

620
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 2: I'd be mad as fuck. Yeah.

621
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: Uh, moving on, Alphaboul returns to Emerald City.

622
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 2: What's up, I'm not even trying to it, just this

623
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 2: part just didn't make sense to me.

624
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 5: Which one when Alphabet was trying to stop her from

625
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 5: reading the wrong words.

626
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 2: Again, not even trying to. Why couldn't you just roll

627
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 2: her away from the book.

628
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 3: She was like, stop, no, you're the wrong word. Just

629
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 3: use your magic and just and we're done, or the

630
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 3: book or float the book away. But it's just like, man,

631
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I know it's wicked, and I know we're

632
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 3: not sunned, take it that seriously, But it was just

633
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 3: like all these things happening just don't really make a

634
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 3: whole lot of sense.

635
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but ship she didn't make it any better.

636
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: Well she did. She couldn't find a spell to stop

637
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: it because it was too late at that point, but yeah,

638
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: she could have stopped it.

639
00:32:58,840 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: Ship Man.

640
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: So Evenberg returns to the Emerald City, where Glenna and

641
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: the Wizard are trying to recruit her, publicly promising to

642
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: free the flying monkeys. If she plays a long she

643
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: considers it, we get another song. Wonderful. I think with

644
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: Joff Goldblom and Cynthia and Arianna, just hearing the two

645
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: of them kind of it was really more noticeable in

646
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: the last part when they had that duet, but you

647
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: could just hear, like the differences in their voice. Bro

648
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: Like Cynthia is just way more fuller and you know,

649
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: Arianna is just a little bit more hollow. She can sing,

650
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: but it's just their voices a contrast so much.

651
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: But she's saying in real life she like a singer.

652
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I was the other

653
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 4: one she does. I don't know if she has a

654
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 4: singing career.

655
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: But she she sing yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, she's good.

656
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: She considered us it. But she finds uh doctor Dillomont

657
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: and the other animals in prison behind the scenes proving

658
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: that nothing has changed. So the monkeys get to go free.

659
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: But he got some other ones in captivity, and that's Mike.

660
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: When he she was you know, she was about to

661
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: get married, uh fire oh fhiaroh and Glinda, and then

662
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: the animals broke free and destroyed the whole wedding thing,

663
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: which was, of course, kind of foreshadowing everything that was

664
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: about to happen because that ship was fucked up. Did

665
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: you guys believe was it stupid for Effelba to even

666
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: go along with this request, which requests to partner up

667
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: with the She believed the Wizard and our uh Blinda.

668
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 2: Well, she wasn't afraid of them, so you know, what

669
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: do you say? Believe what you mean?

670
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: It just felt like I didn't believe the Wizard at all.

671
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: It felt like, Yeah, it felt like there was something

672
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: else going on, and I didn't think it was the

673
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: animals in captivity. It felt like they were tricking he

674
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: was tricking her because it went too smoothly. It was yeah,

675
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: con in her a little bit. Yeah, it felt like, yeah,

676
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: felt like.

677
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 4: A wanted she wanted to believe him, and then she

678
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 4: wanted to trust her friend in thinking that because she

679
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 4: was just she sold it right. Glinda sold it like, look,

680
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 4: you just got to talk to him, and she did

681
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 4: it on the strength of her like, Okay, if you're

682
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 4: saying he's ready to talk or whatever, I'll go talk

683
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 4: to him.

684
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 2: So she went off the strength of Glinda.

685
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe Glinda, it was the Wizard. I didn't

686
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 1: believe the wizard. Yeah, and so it never went anywhere.

687
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: My suspicions, you know, were wrong. Outside of you know,

688
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 1: him having the animals. I thought that at some point

689
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: they were going to team up and he was gonna

690
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: use that as a means to capture her, some kind

691
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: of bullshit like that. So that's that's kind of what

692
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: I thought. But that's not Elfebra rebels. In the middle

693
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: of Glinda and Fioral's wedding, chaos erupts, fier helps her escape,

694
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: and the two finally confess their feelings for each other.

695
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: In as long as your mind were you guys surprised

696
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: that he switched up on Glinda and went with lack

697
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: of the berry, sweet of the juice?

698
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 2: Was this the thing in the first one?

699
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a discussion we had, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

700
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 1: We debated whether or not that he was into Glinda.

701
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: I thought he was.

702
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 4: No, I don't think it was a debate, That's what

703
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 4: it was like. Yeah, he showed that he was interested

704
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 4: in her, and then I mean elfeba.

705
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait, now, if I recall correctly, it felt

706
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: like Fieral was more into Alpha, but think Glinda.

707
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, you would be correct, and Glinda

708
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 4: was trying to get the attention of of thee mm hmm.

709
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 2: And but yeah, and now that she has power, she

710
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 2: got the attention. No, but it ain't genuine. No, she

711
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: doesn't have the powers elf power, like like political powers.

712
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: I got you. Well, I don't think. I don't think

713
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: Fierro ever wanted Glinda in the first place. I think

714
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: he just kind of went along with it in the movie.

715
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: He just kind of followed through with it. He always

716
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: wanted her. But and Alfeba knew that. But Elfe but

717
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: didn't want to hurt her friend because she knew that

718
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: Glinda was attracted to him and always wanted them, so

719
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: she's just kind of let that go.

720
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 3: It was some old, messy black ladies out there that's haided.

721
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah right, hey man. He was like, yo,

722
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: like nah, I've been looking for her this whole time,

723
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: and I finally found her and he tricked the wizard.

724
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: He was like, yo, if you want to believe this

725
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: wisdom he needed to get in his cave, then that

726
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: was it. He were you surprised he did that much?

727
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 5: I mean they needed to add some more drama to

728
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 5: this fucking movie. So no, I wasn't surprised. It was

729
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 5: a bit much because it was like there was just

730
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 5: there was just so many dramatic story arts going on.

731
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 2: But no, I wasn't surprising.

732
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: Mmm, okay, she was surprised.

733
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 2: Who alphaba.

734
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: You think she would Yeah, she said, yeah.

735
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 2: She was just like, don't know, why are you going with?

736
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: She didn't want she she.

737
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 4: Was resistant of it at first, like of him basically

738
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 4: going against the grain to go with her. Like, she

739
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 4: was really surprised because you remember, she thought that he

740
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 4: was on the other side. She thought that when y'all

741
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 4: said she saw him in the woods and he was

742
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 4: just like, yo, you know, will will finally catched this

743
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 4: witch one one way or another. So she was she

744
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 4: was going in thinking that he wasn't even on her side.

745
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 2: So it was it was a surprise to her that

746
00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 2: he was.

747
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: Okay, I was thinking that she was more concerned about

748
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: hurting her friend too, and but she finally got what

749
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: she wanted because she she didn't hesitate as soon as

750
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: they got to this.

751
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 2: It was an initial hesitation. She's like, all right, I

752
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: guess we're doing this.

753
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, again, I thought that line it was corny.

754
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 2: The wicked line. Yeah, it was corny, but it was

755
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 2: a wicked line.

756
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: She was like, yeah, for the first time, you know,

757
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 1: in my life, I feel wicked.

758
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. That was uncomfortable. Like her trying to be sexy,

759
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: it was just weird. Why because she's green.

760
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: The Love Too.

761
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm racist that No, that shit seemed weird. I

762
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 3: just I couldn't take her seriously. When she was like

763
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 3: trying to be sexy.

764
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: It was just weird.

765
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: Really, do you think it's because it's the Odds movie

766
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: and they're interjecting sex into the movie?

767
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 2: Partly? It just seemed weird and odd and just uncomfortable.

768
00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: I didn't think they were going to go there. I

769
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: was surprised when she got naked.

770
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 3: When she got naked and she woke up from them

771
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 3: fucking I was like, this is fucking weird for kids movie.

772
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 3: I guess maybe it's just I was thinking there was

773
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 3: a kid's movie to spike, but maybe it's just not

774
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 3: a kids movie.

775
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: But yes, I thought them. I thought.

776
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 3: I just did not believe Cynthia Rebo in this role

777
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 3: being sexy because she said something where she was trying

778
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 3: to sound like scandalousness, like this is weird.

779
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 2: This is weird. Maybe in another role I would believe

780
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 2: her fine, but just not in this one.

781
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, she didn't spend a lot of time. But oh

782
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: I know, I was nah we good she bathed?

783
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 2: How does she bathe? How does she bathe?

784
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: How does she bathe? Off?

785
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 2: That too? Because she's allergic to water? Yeah, he said something.

786
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 2: She cried how she got a yet fish?

787
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god, y'all, y'all, ya, I.

788
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 2: Bet it just didn't smell pleasant in that treehouse.

789
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: I was.

790
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 2: You did try to move on?

791
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: I did.

792
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 2: I was just wondering at the end, like when she

793
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: hear what was like?

794
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: Damn?

795
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 2: How she takes bands?

796
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: Glinda heartbroken in his leg believe they've been having an

797
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 1: affair all along. Philip betrayed. She allows Morrible to lure

798
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: Alphabe out, but Morble escalates Thing by contract or Tornado

799
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: and stand the Kansas House arrives and kills Tessa Roanessa

800
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: was rolling.

801
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 3: This man, Why are you outside in a storm in

802
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 3: a way, you're the governor, you're the governor, but you

803
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 3: can't even run away from her, So like, why are

804
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 3: you outside rolling around? It made no it made no

805
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 3: fucking When you're talking about it's something like that was

806
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 3: another force thing. I'm like, yo, they really forced she

807
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 3: was break dancing to get then.

808
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 2: Even Alfa was stupid. Even I was like, I'm seeing

809
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 2: something and it just doesn't make sense.

810
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm like we are too, We're in the

811
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 3: same don't make no fuck sense.

812
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 2: Where the fuck you get a house from?

813
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: And why?

814
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 2: Man they follow ship for that?

815
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you remember, I don't know if you'll remember,

816
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 3: but that said, that was probably the one that the

817
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 3: house landed on. Yeah, and I remember not thinking so

818
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 3: because the leg the original movie thought that was, why

819
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 3: are y'all doing this?

820
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 2: This seems really disrespectful.

821
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 5: Y'all dropped the house on the only uh disabled person

822
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 5: that we've seen in this film, and then you have

823
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 5: a focus on her legs and the actual real movie

824
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 5: and her legs troubled up.

825
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 2: This was weird. That's it didn't deserve this. That's it

826
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: was shitty. But she was misunderstood.

827
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: She had a rough life.

828
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 2: This was kind of weird.

829
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: Yeah it was. Yeah, it's a storm and you're still

830
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: riding around of a box.

831
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 2: It made no sense.

832
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: You got guards and service, That's what I'm saying.

833
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 3: Shed outside by yourself, and you even when you see

834
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 3: the storm coming, turn your ass around and go back inside.

835
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: Nope. Not.

836
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 2: Shouldn't be willing in the middle of nowhere. No no,

837
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 2: not by yourself.

838
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 5: And it's not even like a motorized chair. So it's

839
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 5: not like you could actually get away fast. And it

840
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 5: just made no sense, absolutely no sense. Affable was absolutely right.

841
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 5: She saw a vision and it did not make sense,

842
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 5: and we did too. So I'm thinking I missed something.

843
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 5: What was the reason for Marble to even bring that

844
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 5: house there? Well, okay, so the storm or whatever, I

845
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 5: missed this. So Glinda was like, if you want to

846
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 5: get to her, go through her sister, right, So she

847
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 5: killed her systor on purpose?

848
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but why did I drop a house? No? No, no, no, no, no, no, no,

849
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: it was an accident, but because Glinda basically said that

850
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: you have to use this sister to draw Ah.

851
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 2: But I remember that part, yes, right, And Marrible.

852
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: Was the one that escalated it and turned in it

853
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: too a stormy.

854
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 2: Right, that's what he's saying. So but so so Marrible

855
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 2: killed her on purpose?

856
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: I don't. I didn't look at it that way. I

857
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 1: thought that was a damn.

858
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 2: I thought she said it's gonna have to be more

859
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 2: than a rumor. Did it on purpose?

860
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,919
Speaker 1: Connection all that work?

861
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, she caunjured up a storm a cyclone. So was

862
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 3: she originally just gonna make the cyclone pick her up

863
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 3: and flinger as something?

864
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 2: Or does she want and how does she know?

865
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: She was out.

866
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 2: To make sense it's which magic don't because she doesn't.

867
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 3: She wanted to conjure up a storm so she could

868
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 3: kill her sister because she knew that just them telling

869
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 3: a lot wasn't.

870
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 2: Just poison her.

871
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to make sure she understand the accident.

872
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: What we're basically trying to say happened here?

873
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, lost, they're trying to She went in and.

874
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: Did the electric bugoloo ship break dance and ship conjured

875
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: up this storm clone. So she conjured up this cyclone

876
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: told that cyclone to pick up this house. She knew

877
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: Elba was rolling in the deep NESSA sorry, I'll take

878
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: that bad. She was outside, yes, but and she knew

879
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: exactly where she was at, and she decided to drop

880
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: the house.

881
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 5: On see her knowing exactly where she's at. I don't

882
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 5: have a problem with that because she's a witch.

883
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 2: I just have more of an issue with this. Was

884
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 2: a lot of work to kill this one girl in

885
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 2: a chair.

886
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 5: You fucking conjured up a storm, had the storm pick

887
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 5: up a house, and you dropped the house on her.

888
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: Well, maybe she wanted to make it seem more natural.

889
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: Even though it was in.

890
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 2: Oz that came from Kansas.

891
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 5: They could have she could have done anything to her.

892
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 5: So I after to this part, I was like, I

893
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 5: must have. I was doubting myself, Like I fall asleep

894
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 5: because I'm confused about what just happened. Mmmm, that this

895
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 5: ship is weird comments I might read him for this,

896
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 5: Please explain this part because I'm confused.

897
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: And the house that you picked up had Dorothy in it. Yeah,

898
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: well we we saw that part.

899
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 4: I'm saying, the same house that fell on the witch

900
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 4: had Dorothy inside the house.

901
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 2: But it doesn't even make sense because in the original

902
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: we saw the witch flying around when Dorothy was coming,

903
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 2: didn't didn't didn't, I believe so, But in this one

904
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 2: the witch was just coming.

905
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:35,959
Speaker 1: We didn't.

906
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 5: It doesn't make any And I can already read y'all's thoughts. Yes,

907
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 5: we are putting way too much thought into this movie,

908
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 5: but it just didn't make any sense.

909
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, this part blaring it will and I don't believe

910
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 2: it's just us.

911
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: I think that to part two. I didn't see it

912
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: at the you know, play a theater or whatever, but

913
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: they said that it wasn't all that good.

914
00:46:59,160 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 2: I read the same thing.

915
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, uh, I don't know if they have the

916
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: same criticisms, but either way, which is kind of stupid.

917
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: While they were breaking up in two parts, if they

918
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: knew that, like, if you knew the second part wasn't

919
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: gonna hit, Like, why would you even do? That's too

920
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 1: much money? I mean, it's making money.

921
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 2: I'm sure it is.

922
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's making money. Anyway. Booker fronts Glenda over Neessa's

923
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: death and they fight until the guards show up. Uh,

924
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: what y'all think about that slap? This was about the

925
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: fight between Yeah, I kind of thought this was funny.

926
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: I did too, Spike, she slapped. She slapped her as bad.

927
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: I was thinking about that sport power slap? Is that?

928
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah?

929
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're right. We was going here a bitch

930
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 2: she was about to. It looked like they paused it.

931
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looked like.

932
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

933
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: I liked it. I thought it was I did, Mike.

934
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: I thought it was funny. People in the theater laughed too.

935
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: She slapped the ship out of her, and she slapped

936
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: the ship out of her back too. I don't know,

937
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: I thought I thought it was interesting. H Fiero intervenes.

938
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: He's drapped away to be tortured. Elfeba's devastated. She retreats

939
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: to calm cold the hot out Phirooh told her about it.

940
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: Finally gives up trying to be good, and then I

941
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: think she did this on no good deed. She transforms

942
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: Fierroh into the Scarecrow to save him. This ship didn't

943
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: make sense to me, out of all the goddamn things

944
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: in the world, a scarecrow. You love this man and

945
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: you changed him to straw man.

946
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 2: She's the shittiest witch in the world. It's looking like

947
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 2: he's awful. Yeah, like you're not creative, not at all,

948
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: not at all. You couldn't do anything but turn him

949
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 2: into a fucking strong man so he would stop hurting.

950
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: Oh man.

951
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 2: And at what point does he join with Dorothy?

952
00:48:58,160 --> 00:48:59,720
Speaker 1: And then we didn't see it exactly.

953
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 4: Didn't make any because they couldn't make it make sense.

954
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 4: They couldn't make that make sense.

955
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god, what was the Scarecrow's thing? The lion

956
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: was cowardly? Then they have a heart, needed courage.

957
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 2: I thought it wasn't courage the scarecrow.

958
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: He wanted to be real, didn't he.

959
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 2: That's Pinocchio. I'm just kidding.

960
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: I don't know.

961
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 2: I don't remember what.

962
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 3: Let's see a brain, a brain, brain, So he turned

963
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 3: them into a brainless scarecrow.

964
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: And that's that was the disconnect for me. I knew

965
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: it was something, but like, Okay, the tim Men, I

966
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: got the CAROLYLINEA guy was like, but what was the

967
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: thing with the scarecrow? This guy and I knew couldn't

968
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: make couraged because he was a warrior.

969
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: Wow, she gave me some brains?

970
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: Wow?

971
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 3: On what.

972
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,439
Speaker 1: He got it before? Oh he did get it before,

973
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: so yeah, so he probably was wanting more of it.

974
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 2: If I only had some brain. I used to get

975
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 2: brain all the standard.

976
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 3: I don't remember what it is. I know is I

977
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 3: want the wizard to figure out how to give me

978
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 3: some brain.

979
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 2: That's what it was. The hell this movie they forced

980
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 2: this whole.

981
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 3: Ship, because did they ever show when they were showing

982
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 3: a little silhouettes, he wouldn't have.

983
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 2: I don't remember seeing him in there because I.

984
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: Don't seen him.

985
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying they purposely didn't

986
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 4: show them because they had to make that make sense,

987
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 4: and it just didn't. It didn't make any sense. But

988
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 4: I do have something that I think could make sense

989
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 4: towards the towards the end about him. We'll see if

990
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 4: you all agree.

991
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: Okay, well we almost at the end because now she's

992
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: full on villain which that was the thing I was

993
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: really really trying to figure out with the first one.

994
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: I was having the schedule with my wife, was like, well,

995
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: how does she turn into like evil? So of course

996
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: this is how the kills. Yeah, I killed the sister

997
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: and she was like, all right, that's it, I'm over it.

998
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 2: She had a song about it. What she said, no

999
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 2: more good.

1000
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, no good deed yep. So yeah, so that's it.

1001
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 1: So but that makes sense for you guys, for her

1002
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: to be villainized like death was sister, her lover's gone.

1003
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: She had just got a peace because she ain't had

1004
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: any you know.

1005
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 2: Oh that's true.

1006
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 5: She had just got some dick and they took her

1007
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 5: sister at the same Yeah, I guess that that's enough,

1008
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 5: because I was gonna say it would have been a

1009
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 5: lot more believable if she had made up with her sister,

1010
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 5: but when they separated they still were kind of at odds.

1011
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 2: If they had let them like actually make up, this

1012
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 2: could have worked a little bit better.

1013
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, when she arrived and was.

1014
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 3: Like stepping to fucking Glinda about using the sister's death,

1015
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 3: it didn't.

1016
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 2: There was no emotional anything to this.

1017
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: It wasn't because she was like, oh yeah, can I

1018
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: have some time with my sister?

1019
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 2: Yeah that was weird.

1020
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're just cool just just being.

1021
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 2: Dead under a house why, right?

1022
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 1: You know none of that.

1023
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:05,720
Speaker 2: That's what happened in the original.

1024
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 1: Right, she was mad.

1025
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 2: She was really mad. I don't remember.

1026
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: She just accepted. She was like, damn, my sister did

1027
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: and the house on your sister of all things, like

1028
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 1: that's the way to die.

1029
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 2: Shoes, I get you my pretty and your little dog too.

1030
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, no, she was all she said was

1031
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 4: just go get my sisters shoes.

1032
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: Was to give away, right, Yeah, because Dorothy ran off.

1033
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: They showed Dorothy and Glinda gave the shoes to Dorothy

1034
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: for that right, see you later.

1035
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 2: It just didn't.

1036
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: It's like the shoes are brand new. She you know

1037
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

1038
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 2: In the original that she telling her shoes was gonna

1039
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 2: get her home, I think so. I think so, I'm

1040
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 2: gonna make a float.

1041
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 3: No.

1042
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: So anyway, os is mobilizing against el but now Dorothy, Uh,

1043
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: it's definitely been weaponized. Glinda is realizing the cause of

1044
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: her choices. So we have Dorothy, a ten man of

1045
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: the line in the Scarecrow, now being sent directly to

1046
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: kill Elfeba. Bach is rallying an angry mob in March

1047
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: of the witch Hunters, and the Wizard is fully leaning

1048
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: into his propaganda and uh, Glinda breaks down and girl

1049
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: in the Bubble, realizing her public image was built on

1050
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: a lie. So she goes confront Morrible and Morble reminds

1051
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: us she was never in control.

1052
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 2: Damn.

1053
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: This act was weird, mainly with Glinda's part, because she

1054
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 1: just kind of turned into the hero, you know, So

1055
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: you know, it's just like I don't know, yeah, yeah,

1056
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: I mean, they gave her a full song where she

1057
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: just run around singing and shit, and there's a whole

1058
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: mob outside. So Glinda runs the cow Cold where Elfeba

1059
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: has in prisoned Dorothy trying to retrieve the shoes and

1060
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: Glenda warns her about the mob. Elfaba gives up and

1061
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: she decides to surrender just Barrick Linda from being hated

1062
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: like she was. And then they had their duo for

1063
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 1: Good Rea, firming their friendship and the tragedy of their

1064
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: broken paths. The harmonies were good here in one of

1065
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: the parts. It was when they harmon us and then

1066
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: they hit the same note as you know towards the end.

1067
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 1: But did for a good hit? Did that work or

1068
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: did it struggle to kind of close this whole thing out,

1069
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: like the emotional weight of these friends that are coming

1070
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: together being broken apart and now they're back together again

1071
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: to show that everything's all right in the world and

1072
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: you're really my sister and I love you. I don't

1073
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 1: care about you taking my boyfriend. She did have that

1074
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: line Rod where she was, oh, nigga chose me. It

1075
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,280
Speaker 1: was with the shoes when she gave away the shoes

1076
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: and she was like, oh, yeah, I forgot what she

1077
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: said said, your sister wasn't using them, no way, no

1078
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: something about y'all. I never you knew you were asking

1079
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: permission for something to take you. Yeah, it was something

1080
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: like that. I can't anyway. Did the pronal song hit? Oh,

1081
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: the song, well, the song they were coming because they

1082
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: used the song to kind of connect.

1083
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 2: I think this is probably one of the better songs. Sure, but.

1084
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, this this is apart man like like like like

1085
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 4: I said, with the first one, I have like the

1086
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 4: you know, the color, the colored person having to dim

1087
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 4: their light for the white woman to shine.

1088
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 2: It didn't feel weird.

1089
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, the whole movie was weird that way.

1090
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 2: The first one was worse.

1091
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: This one.

1092
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 2: They brought it back around.

1093
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, I felt I felt worse this time.

1094
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 2: I felt it this one. I don't remember the first

1095
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 2: one like you, but I was way unsee it.

1096
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1097
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 4: The first one they they was it was like like

1098
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 4: you saying, it was very overt, like in your face

1099
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 4: or whatever, like yeah, this is the first, not the

1100
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 4: first time, but this is one of the you.

1101
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,720
Speaker 1: Know what, this was bro like the whole time watching

1102
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, it's a black person's doing all the things,

1103
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: not bad, not evil, but it made out to be evil,

1104
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, angry. And then they're propping up this

1105
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 1: white person who doesn't have any ability to skill because

1106
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: remember she didn't have any other kid. They did the

1107
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: flashback when she had the winter and she tried to

1108
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: do the winter and she lied about the rainbow, so

1109
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,720
Speaker 1: they use her as this image of what it should

1110
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 1: be where the black person has to go into hiding.

1111
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: And like you said, Lord of the Light.

1112
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 4: It's like the Dark Knight is remember felt like remember yeah,

1113
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 4: remember Dark Knight. Yeah, he's just like, look, I'll be

1114
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 4: the bad guy, Harvey.

1115
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. They want to they need

1116
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 2: someone to look up to. At least that made sense.

1117
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 2: That made a little bit more sense. I mean, this

1118
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 2: didn't make any sense.

1119
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: This is this this night.

1120
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 2: Now you're talking about race now, like whereas that was

1121
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 2: like it was two white men, It.

1122
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: Wasn't supposed to be about race, but it turned into this.

1123
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: But it's hard to for me to Nott'll think it

1124
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 1: isn't absolutely I don't.

1125
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 2: Think that they were intentionally going for what we're picking up.

1126
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 3: But I don't know that we would be picking that

1127
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,720
Speaker 3: up if they didn't put some of the other stuff

1128
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,399
Speaker 3: in this, you know, especially if you're.

1129
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 2: Talking about trigger warnings.

1130
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 5: If you're warning us already know, hey, there's like race

1131
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 5: discussions in here, Why would we even pick that up

1132
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 5: if there's no black people in this fucking film.

1133
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 2: There's just this green woman. So It's like, nah, y'all

1134
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 2: were doing this and then you do it.

1135
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: It was just weird.

1136
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say that they're racist or anything like that.

1137
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 2: It just felt really weird. And then you made like

1138
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 2: what did she die for? I mean she didn't die,

1139
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 2: of course, but I mean like what was she supposed to.

1140
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: Be dying for?

1141
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 2: Because the animals said that, like, this world won't be

1142
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 2: a better place until.

1143
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 3: You're dead, and but so she believed that and was like, yes,

1144
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go out here and have her throw some

1145
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 3: water on me and I'm gonna die. Because the people

1146
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 3: they wasn't ready to accept that her as a good

1147
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 3: person because all the propaganda have been put out there.

1148
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 2: But it's like, yeah, but.

1149
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 3: If they showed like Glinda being an ally and then

1150
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 3: proving that like Anable and the Wizard were actually frauds,

1151
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 3: then this could have worked. It just felt weird. It

1152
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 3: was like, if you're going to retell this story, why

1153
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 3: are you telling it this way? And if you're trying

1154
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 3: to have a tragic ending, this ain't.

1155
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 2: The movie for it.

1156
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: And they had a gang spike, a gang of monkeys

1157
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: like that.

1158
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 2: It's crazy when you put a black person in that role.

1159
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 2: You you gotta be careful.

1160
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 3: I agree, Yes, you gotta be And you can't just

1161
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 3: paint her green and think we're not going to pick

1162
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 3: up on this.

1163
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you think we would feel it? Because when

1164
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: I was watching, I was like, I kind of felt

1165
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: like I would be thinking the same if it was reversed.

1166
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 1: Do you think the roles were reversed if I was

1167
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: a white woman, I think it would have felt better

1168
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: for me.

1169
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. But then.

1170
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: People would have still complained like, oh, this is some

1171
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: white night ship.

1172
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 2: So there was really no way to make this.

1173
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 1: No if Glinda, if Glinda was Alphaba, and.

1174
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 5: If Ariana Grande was Alphabe, yes, okay, if if they

1175
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 5: switch characters, right, would we still look.

1176
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: At it in the same way.

1177
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 5: No, I'm saying that people still complain because if Ariana

1178
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:17,439
Speaker 5: Grande was playing Alphaba and she died, then it would

1179
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 5: have felt kind of white knightish.

1180
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: And oh, white knightish and maybe woke to Do you

1181
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: think they would have tried.

1182
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 5: To be like, oh, well, the white woman died, so

1183
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 5: this black woman could be great. I don't know, I

1184
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 5: don't know any anyway it goes, this would have felt weird. Yeah,

1185
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 5: So I don't think they really had much of a

1186
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 5: an option, but this still felt weird, especially when she's

1187
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 5: in the closet. She's like, yeah, you know, being really quiet,

1188
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 5: and she's silently watching this black woman getting harder.

1189
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: It felt weird.

1190
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 5: It felt weird, especially by a white woman, by a

1191
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 5: white woman, and she threw water on her.

1192
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 2: You know, they say we don't bathe can't swim and

1193
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 2: can't swim, right.

1194
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: It's just all of it felt Yeah, it did. And

1195
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: then she slept with the white man. It was like, oh,

1196
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: you you know you white black white people don't like

1197
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,439
Speaker 1: when black folks sleep with their race.

1198
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 2: You know, she was exiled for it. Yeah, but Dorothy

1199
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 2: didn't know all that. She didn't care. She wanted was

1200
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 2: her way back home.

1201
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 1: That's all she was like, I don't know what. Look,

1202
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: I just want to go home. I ain't involved in

1203
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: any of this bullshit. You women to get the broom, Okay,

1204
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: I'll get you get the broom. She got a broom too,

1205
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: like a maid. Man, stay woke, talk about it, Stay woke.

1206
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: But but again, I look, if people listening, I don't

1207
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. There's an interjection here going on

1208
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: with with you know, that's just how I'm looking at

1209
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: it as a black man, and it's not just how

1210
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: you're looking at I'm just saying I just want to

1211
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: you know, it's there, man. I don't know if it

1212
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: was intended to be there. Even intent doesn't matter.

1213
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 4: But nevertheless, they've seen all they've seen all the criticism,

1214
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 4: like they say, got triggered warners in front of their movies.

1215
01:00:57,880 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 2: But it was filmed back to back, so it's not

1216
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 2: like they can go and just do the whole.

1217
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 1: They could, but I mean they have. I mean, look

1218
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: at Sonic and all these other movies they had to

1219
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 1: redo that may have been about I can't remember. Was

1220
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 1: it about the racial stuff too or just the animal.

1221
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's about the racial stuff too with Sonic.

1222
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: All right? Man? Uh So anyway, Alphaba is melted.

1223
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 2: If y'all can see what he's doing, you understand why

1224
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 2: he's always like this.

1225
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: He's watching.

1226
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 2: Oh they do.

1227
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: But uh but later on we learned that Alphaba faked

1228
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 1: her death. Did you guys think was gone for real?

1229
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 3: Yes?

1230
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: I did too, thought she was dead. I thought I

1231
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 1: was like, there's some bullshit. They don't killed this damn woman.

1232
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 3: I didn't feel like there was no reason for her

1233
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 3: like not to be right. That just makes me think,

1234
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 3: Dorothy dumb as fuck? Right, how did you not see

1235
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 3: her go through a trap door?

1236
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 1: She's a magic she's a witch, so she probably used magic.

1237
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 1: That's the only way I'm gonna make this make sense

1238
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: because I had the same question. But I was like,

1239
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: maybe when she was melting your created steam and she just.

1240
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, all right, No, that makes sense, But

1241
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 2: that makes sense.

1242
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 1: That's the only way I could make it make sense

1243
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: because I'm like, she didn't.

1244
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 2: Hear the door, and the scarecrow found her.

1245
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: He came back because he knew where she was. Wait,

1246
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: how do you know?

1247
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 2: Smell her funky ass and she ain't watch it? I

1248
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 2: smell a steaking as she over here? Showhere somewhere? Yep. Yeah,

1249
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 2: but how did he know where?

1250
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: So where she was at?

1251
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 2: When?

1252
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 1: When did when did Elpha but tell him?

1253
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 2: This was the plan? It was it was part of

1254
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 2: the plan.

1255
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 4: So this is the part where I said they trying

1256
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 4: to connect it to the original because in the original,

1257
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 4: when she has the water thrown on her, Scarecrow tells, uh,

1258
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 4: Dorothy that the water is over there. It's Scarecrow that

1259
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 4: says it. So I guess the way that rewriting it

1260
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 4: is that it was always a part of the plan.

1261
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 4: Scarecrow is always in on them leaving together. But when

1262
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 4: did she tell him? Because she hadn't even talked to

1263
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 4: him in the original movie or even in the original

1264
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 4: In original you see him, I think you see him?

1265
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 3: Like, sorry, No, I mean when did When did Alpha

1266
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 3: but talk to the Scarecrow because you don't even know

1267
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 3: he was alive until the end of the movie, remember,

1268
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 3: because when she sees them, she goes, oh my god,

1269
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 3: you're alive. So that doesn't even make any sense because

1270
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 3: when would she have told him, Hey, my plan is that.

1271
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I get you, I get you that. But I

1272
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 4: was just trying to piece it together that like that's

1273
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 4: what they were trying to trying. All of that ship

1274
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 4: was forced to me. Every one of the original Wizard

1275
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 4: of Oz connections were forced to me.

1276
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 2: Except the line I disagree with you. Everything else I

1277
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 2: agree except the Lion's everything else I agree with you.

1278
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:43,919
Speaker 2: It's something they worked The Lion in was cool.

1279
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, the way, Yeah, the Lion had a little bit

1280
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 4: more backstory because he was in the first one exactly

1281
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 4: the other ones they just kind of plopped them in

1282
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 4: this one. Yes, yeah, I agree, Yeah, but I wanted

1283
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 4: to trust on the trigger warned real quick. So I

1284
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 4: said this on the last one, but just to give

1285
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 4: you know, a little bit more insight. Uh, it was

1286
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 4: on the screen. Crimination and bullying the primary thing throughout

1287
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 4: the film is explicit and widespread discrimination faced by Alpha,

1288
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 4: but the green skin they put it in quote woman

1289
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 4: who is mocked, bully and humiliated because of her appearance.

1290
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 4: This is an allegory for real world racism and prejudice.

1291
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 2: So they said that this was so that's your fault.

1292
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 2: That's your fault that we're reading it this way.

1293
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:23,439
Speaker 1: Cool, because they I guess they were. They know, they knew,

1294
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 1: yeah all right, so yeah this ain't us. They knew

1295
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: that's had the trigger one. Yeah cool, So somehow I

1296
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 1: get you, right, I think it's some bell, but I understand,

1297
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 1: we got got to make it make sense. So I

1298
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 1: guess if they love Oz, she and her trap door

1299
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: reunites with and she can't turn it back to your

1300
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 1: human she's a sorry as I don't know, she like,

1301
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 1: she's just like she's lying.

1302
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 5: You're beautiful, Yeah, because she used the same word that

1303
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 5: he used remember earlier when he said that rather insulting

1304
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 5: ship where she was. He was like, oh, you're beautiful,

1305
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 5: and she said something like oh no, I'm not. And

1306
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 5: he's like, well, yeah, it's a different perspective.

1307
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 2: It's like, bitch, that is not nice.

1308
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 3: How would you feel if someone said that ship to you,

1309
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 3: you're very You're a very handsome man from a different

1310
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 3: sh No one really tells me that.

1311
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if you think about it in this perspective,

1312
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 2: she just called me ugly.

1313
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why she turned it into a scarecrow. Make

1314
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 1: him look better, no, make him a little funked up. Okay,

1315
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 1: you know you let's talk about perspective. Then now you're

1316
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 1: on my level. Now what now we we're saying that's ship.

1317
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 1: I forgot about that that was but uh yeah, I

1318
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 1: did not know he was a scaracter until the movie

1319
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 1: was over.

1320
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 5: You did not know because I couldn't tell, like what

1321
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 5: the funk was on his face. It looks like that

1322
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 5: that glimmer ship from Twilight.

1323
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 1: They never show his face until the end. They just

1324
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 1: saw kind of walking all funny, but even his face.

1325
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 2: I was like okay, and I was like, oh, that

1326
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 2: was supposed to be the scarecrow. I said the same thing.

1327
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 2: I said, it's supposed to be. I was not sure

1328
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 2: it was the same. Just like you, this is bad.

1329
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 1: Y'all could have some straws his face or something anything.

1330
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 1: I was surprised they did. Yeah, they just yeah, it

1331
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 1: was weird. Yeah, I guess they wanted to keep his

1332
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: looks int that.

1333
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:19,439
Speaker 2: I guess.

1334
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: So this was the weirdest part to me. And I

1335
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 1: don't even think it needed to be in the movie.

1336
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 1: Uh ch History presents Glinda with the green Elitzer, and

1337
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 1: Glinda realizes the Wizard is Elfebu's father. What the fuck

1338
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 1: a shame? He leaves? Ohs what in the entire hell?

1339
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 4: So in the first one, y'all remember that you know

1340
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 4: my mom, her mom was sleeping with the guy, but

1341
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 4: they never revealed his they never showed his face.

1342
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 2: He's probably.

1343
01:06:54,000 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 1: Oh so the affair that she was having the wizard, Yeah, yeah, because.

1344
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 2: Apparently that's how she got her power, although why didn't

1345
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 2: he turn green? Because he was drinking what.

1346
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 3: And that's how she got her powers too, right, But

1347
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 3: the wizard don't have powers. That's why I didn't understand it.

1348
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 3: But they was like the mixture of both worlds is

1349
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 3: how she became so powerful, And I was like, what

1350
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 3: worlds are they talking about? I thought I missed something

1351
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 3: in the first They're probably talking about the power of

1352
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,479
Speaker 3: being biracial. I'm sure logically love this movie.

1353
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 2: Drake wrote this, right man, Yeah, I don't know.

1354
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 5: Again, every time I was confused, I just assumed I

1355
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 5: missed something, so I just wasn't even holding it against

1356
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 5: But it didn't.

1357
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 2: Hit No, I didn't. It was supposed to be like

1358
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 2: a big reveal, too right, It didn't hit it all. Yeah,

1359
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 2: it's supposed to be.

1360
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: We didn't see him suspecting like there was like it

1361
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 1: was nothing, Like she didn't even think, are you my

1362
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 1: real daddy? Nothing, none of that.

1363
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 2: But it's like, how do you even know? Though you're

1364
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 2: making guesses? Right, well, since you were drinking that green

1365
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 2: stuff and she turned green, you're oh, what hell about

1366
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 2: you know? Do you know?

1367
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 1: You know you have powers?

1368
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 2: You can't see the fucking future or nothing? Shut your

1369
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 2: ass up.

1370
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, fuck out of here, you should leave. Glenda restores

1371
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 1: animal rights. Uh, Marble is arrested, and you know, she

1372
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:21,560
Speaker 1: becomes the true leader of OZ and the Grimmery activates

1373
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: for her, and now she got magic, white girl magic.

1374
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 2: Well of them made it do that, right, I thought

1375
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 2: she did.

1376
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 1: It looked like she did transfer something to her to

1377
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 1: give her magic. So I saw some hands on it

1378
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:38,639
Speaker 1: or something. At the end of the day, the white

1379
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 1: woman still gets.

1380
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 2: Get all the power and the book. She was able

1381
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 2: to rule the land while the other one is exiled

1382
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 2: into the land of nothing rights in the ghetto. Crazy.

1383
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 2: That's how. That's how they did this movie. So weird.

1384
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 2: It's so weird, so weird, it's like in your face.

1385
01:08:59,520 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1386
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, we run the world and that is it,

1387
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 2: and we will continue to left part out.

1388
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 3: It ends with the camera's floating and they're in a

1389
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 3: field and she like whispers, which makes it seem like

1390
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 3: it's going to be a continuation.

1391
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 1: No, I can't do another one. No, I saw you're

1392
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 1: not talking about Alfaba and the Scarecrow walking out.

1393
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 2: Alphaba and Glinda are in like a field.

1394
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:26,959
Speaker 1: Oh, I thought they were reminiscent.

1395
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 3: I thought that was a flashback, like say something in

1396
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 3: her ear, but we never know what she said. That's

1397
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 3: not a flashback to it's a flashback.

1398
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 5: But like that was supposed to be like powerful or something,

1399
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:36,719
Speaker 5: because they don't reveal what she whispered.

1400
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: Oh, I thought it was just I didn't take anything

1401
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 1: from that. Yeah, I thought they were just trying to

1402
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:44,759
Speaker 1: show them back on screen.

1403
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 2: When it ended, I was like, I am so lost.

1404
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 2: What the hell is?

1405
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 1: There will not be a part three?

1406
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 2: I want to know what the fuck she said? Me too?

1407
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 2: How was it.

1408
01:09:54,360 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 1: They're selling? Bit you? Oh man?

1409
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 2: So they said it's a call back to the original

1410
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 2: Broadway musicals.

1411
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that is.

1412
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 2: Image that actually makes sense. That's kind of cool.

1413
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 4: Then, okay, we're creating the scene with Glenda whispers in

1414
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 4: the alphabe's ear.

1415
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 2: Oh, that's kind of cool. That's kind of cool. This

1416
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 2: movie is still trash, but that was kind of yeah,

1417
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 2: so that's paying homage.

1418
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 1: Cool. Well, I don't have anything else dirty. They should

1419
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 1: have just shared him, they could have. Yeah, they were friends,

1420
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 1: best friends, right, best.

1421
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 3: They could have gotten them an agerie that would have

1422
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 3: been might as well. That's that's gonna be wicked three.

1423
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 1: Oh man? All right, man, well let you get let

1424
01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 1: us know what you guys think about.

1425
01:10:59,240 --> 01:10:59,680
Speaker 2: I don't care.

1426
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 1: Uh for good? Right?

1427
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 2: For good?

1428
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeah? For good?

1429
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:06,839
Speaker 2: I want to leave this world for oh you stupid?

1430
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 2: Was it for good? Its good as hell.

1431
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:16,640
Speaker 1: It was so good. She kept me alive, bro, she

1432
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 1: didn't want me to die the Lira did.

1433
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 4: It was that good, I will say, even though she

1434
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 4: got exiled. Well, they went to the Land of Nothing,

1435
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:25,440
Speaker 4: and I'm glad they didn't.

1436
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 2: Actually kill her. I would have that would have really

1437
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 2: sent me if they would have killed killed her, kill her, really,

1438
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 2: I'd rather than kill her.

1439
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 1: Man.

1440
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad they didn't actually kill her personally.

1441
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 1: Yeah I feel yeah, me too, Yeah, I was. I

1442
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:41,639
Speaker 1: was like, there's no way they killed her, Like, there's

1443
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 1: no way. I was like, but she dies in the odes,

1444
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 1: so I thought that that's what they really did. So

1445
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:49,680
Speaker 1: I was like, but it was a relief on with

1446
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 1: you guys that she did not die out in the

1447
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,599
Speaker 1: hot desert just walking, so at least.

1448
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 2: But it's no rain. Well, thank god, she don't wash

1449
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 2: yourself and this.

1450
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 1: Was lean away.

1451
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 3: Bro.

1452
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:05,719
Speaker 2: Oh god, they'd have killed her in after they found

1453
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 2: her in that land of nothing that they have killed

1454
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 2: her again, right Brown, right, and they wouldn't found that.

1455
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 2: Damn lion. You are too much like Bufoster killed all

1456
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 2: the monkeys.

1457
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 4: All the monkeys are dead as hell, take their wings crying.

1458
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 2: Y'all are not flying in my movie, the monkeys didn't

1459
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 2: even talking to the end. I thought.

1460
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 1: I kept waiting for the Planet of the Apes, the

1461
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 1: Planet of the Apes scene with Caesar. Did you say, no,

1462
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 1: apes stronger together?

1463
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 2: You got some fucking nerve putting flying monkeys against the woman.

1464
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1465
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 4: I think y'all brought this up last time because she

1466
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 4: dates lean Away. Who does Cynthia?

1467
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 2: She does not?

1468
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:05,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, she dates lean Away and they probably saw

1469
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 3: him was mad as ship.

1470
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 4: Why are you going back to Yeah, they dave public.

1471
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 4: They've been public since twenty twenty two.

1472
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 2: That was cute. I thought she was dating a ground

1473
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:14,560
Speaker 2: I know.

1474
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 1: No, you didn't.

1475
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 5: I think that's just proo woman being No. I think

1476
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 5: that's just knowing a white world, we can't fight. The

1477
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 5: went when that dude ran up on her and put

1478
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 5: his arm around her and she jumped in. Yeah, but

1479
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 5: it's been a couple of instances like that. I think

1480
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 5: she's just Cynthia Ribo.

1481
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 3: Seems like she comes from a real background, like she

1482
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 3: done fought some motherfuckers before I get to tell by

1483
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 3: her face. She don't put up a bullshit all around

1484
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 3: the Grande and never had to fight her entirely exactly.

1485
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 2: It's like, man, it looks crazy. It looks crazy. Cynthia

1486
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 2: went over there with the arms, like what the fun

1487
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 2: cut up? Motherfucker? What was security? Bro? They had? They

1488
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 2: new was there? Like like we take off today, Cynthy.

1489
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:00,719
Speaker 2: Cynthia got it you see your arms?

1490
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1491
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:04,639
Speaker 2: Walking around bro. She is skinny though they both she's skinny,

1492
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 2: but she got powered.

1493
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 1: She like she got that Bruce lead that Bruce Lee

1494
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 1: been working out right.

1495
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 2: She could tell she works out. I wouldn't.

1496
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 3: I wouldn't try her s. Cynthion Rebo is a great

1497
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 3: I would. I do want to say that Cynthia Rebo

1498
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 3: is a great actor. She was really really I want

1499
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 3: her to be in other stuff. And her her singing

1500
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:24,639
Speaker 3: was amazing. I loved her performance in this one.

1501
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:30,600
Speaker 1: Vocally you didn't like to sup Bride. She brought some

1502
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 1: soul to songs that don't have feel. You know that thing.

1503
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 2: A good actor. I hope she. I hope she has

1504
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 2: other roles that utilize her better.

1505
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 1: All right, well we leave it there. We cut you guys.

1506
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 1: Next time we got peace