1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: There's just so much rotten stuff in this thing. I 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: feel like I feel like we could do a whole 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: three hour show on it and not even scratch the 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: service we could. 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 2: It is kind of in casey, it's ninety three WIBC. 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: Of course, we're spending a lot of time talking about 7 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 2: that one hundred and twenty seven page audit which was 8 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 2: conducted by FTI Consulting in regards to the Indiana Economic 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: Development Corporation. 10 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: And you know, we've talked about it throughout the course 11 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: of the day today. But the real sort of takeaway 12 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: and all of this is that you, the taxpayer, hardworking, 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: most cases, middle class individual, had your liberty and freedom 14 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: because that's what work is. Somebody told me this years ago, 15 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: and it's it's absolutely true. Money is what you get 16 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,319 Speaker 1: for giving up your liberty and freedom. Never forget that. 17 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: That's what your paycheck is. Money is giving up your 18 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: liberty and freedom because you give that up to go 19 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: to work each day, You give up your time to 20 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: do as you would like to go earn that money. 21 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: And so essentially the government takes away when they take taxes, 22 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: they are taking your liberty and freedom. They're taking that 23 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: from you and look, a person who understands that there's 24 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: a price to live in a decent society. We're way 25 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: over priced and society ain't all that decent. But I'm 26 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: not a person who believes there should never be any 27 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: sort of taxes. But let's face it, that's what they're doing. 28 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: They're taking your liberty and freedom. And what this iedc 29 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: audit not that we didn't know any of this to 30 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: begin with. It's come out in various publications over time, 31 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: is they took this money from you, your liberty and freedom, 32 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: and they used it in many cases for the interest 33 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: both personal and professional, of the people who were running 34 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: that operation, whether it was trips to foreign countries, tickets 35 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: to a warding events, hundreds of millions of dollars going 36 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: to to groups and ideas that either directly or indirectly, 37 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: we're benefiting many of the people making the decisions, and 38 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: just very nonchalant in the way this thing, this multi 39 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: billion dollar thing was being run. Oh there were thirty 40 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: conflicts of interest and people didn't fill out the forms. Ah, well, 41 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: we'll try to do better next time. Oh we had 42 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: all these these little groups and subcommittees and this that 43 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: that made it basically impossible for any normal person to 44 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: understand where the money was going. Oh, yeah, we should 45 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 1: probably do better than that. And the next time, Hey, 46 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: nobody's actually going to pay any sort of price for 47 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: any of this, nobody's going to get into actual trouble, 48 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: nobody's got to pay any money back, nobody's risking some 49 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: sort of criminal charge. The money's gone, and it mostly 50 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: went to things that these people liked or wanted or 51 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: were benefited from. But we'll do better next time. 52 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: Mostly went for land purchase six three hundred and forty 53 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: five acres at the cost of four hundred and seventy 54 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: five million dollars. Yeah, strong arming hoosiers. 55 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: And when you come back to the state telling you 56 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: in this most recent budget that there was no money 57 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: to fund what they claim our essential services without raising 58 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: taxes by a billion dollars. Yet, as you said, Casey, 59 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: in just a three year time period, because that's we're 60 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: talking about, we're not talking about the length of the IEDC, 61 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: talk about the history. We're talking about twenty two to 62 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: twenty four. So in three years they spent over four 63 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars to buy land to benefit mega corporations. 64 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: We're led to believe that Lily couldn't construct a basic 65 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: real estate deal. Hey, I'd like to put Lily there. Yeah, 66 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,839 Speaker 1: it costs how much? Okay, thank you, have a nice day. 67 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: We'll eli Lilly, the largest drug manufacturer in the world 68 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: with the last time we checked a market caemp cap 69 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: eight hundred billion. They can't do that. Well, nobody believes 70 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: that for a second. 71 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: They need Hoosier's money to get that done. 72 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: So what this is is you're getting screwed. Your money's 73 00:03:56,160 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: getting taken and it's given to this shady uneas thickle, corrupt, underhanded, glorified, 74 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: legalized money laundering operation to benefit politicians and employees and 75 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: office holders and powerful mega donors. Two said, at the 76 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: expense of. 77 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: You, Now you had mentioned something earlier. Nobody in the 78 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 2: Republican Party has said anything about this. Let's just take 79 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: a look really quick. 80 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, make sure nobody said anything. 81 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna scan Governor Mike Braun's X account. Here. 82 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 2: He is doing a groundbreaking in Gary. He's at Kercher's 83 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: Sunshine Orchards up in Goshen. I've been there. It's a 84 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 2: very nice place. Yes, little group photo there. 85 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: How many days back are you? 86 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: Now, let's see this was nineteen hours ago. 87 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: Okay, so well, so the IDC report has been out 88 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: that long now, yeah, Okay. 89 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 2: Here he is touting the accomplishments of the Indiana State 90 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: Police so far as a picture of him and Maureen 91 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 2: Braun down at Brown County State Park. So nothing now 92 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: the wait, wait, wait, I want to pause for a 93 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 2: second on that. 94 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: So you're telling me the governor who was so concerned 95 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: about the IDC that he spent eight hundred thousand dollars 96 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: of our money to do this forensic audit, that that 97 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: individual hasn't said a word since this report came out. 98 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 2: I do have a quote from the Indiana Capital Chronicle. 99 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: He said, the results are clear, and this matter is resolved. 100 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: We were forward focused. 101 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: So what he says this matter is resolved, He means 102 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: we got the audit. It said everything that Rob and 103 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 1: Casey have been saying well for years now, which is 104 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: this is a corrupt, rotten, underhanded, crony capitalist, glorified money 105 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: laundering operation in which everybody got screwed so that these people, 106 00:05:55,640 --> 00:06:01,119 Speaker 1: these politicians, these these government officials, these connected owners, et cetera, 107 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: could have all sorts of stuff that's in the past 108 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: it's all behind us. 109 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: Now, it's resolved. We're moving forward. I saw another news 110 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: stat that we hadn't really talked about. But that infuriate 111 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: you mean, it's like it's done. We're making some changes. 112 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: What are they going to change while there's this new 113 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 2: conflict of interest check which should have been in place 114 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: from the beginning. 115 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: Now keep in mind, I know we talked about this earlier. 116 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: The conflict of interest thing should enrage everyone because as 117 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: a local government official, city council, town council, county council, 118 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: county commissioner, or whatever, if you're voting on something where 119 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: you have a financial stake in the outcome, you are 120 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: not only obligated to fill out a form it's called 121 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: a conflict of interest form where you divulge that to 122 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: the public, but you're supposed to recuse yourself from voting 123 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: on the issue because you're not supposed to be a 124 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: part of any of the negotiations anything. That's why you 125 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: fill the format. Say hey, you know, I work for 126 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: this company. The town's considering bringing them to our you know, 127 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: our community. I'm out of this. That way that we 128 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: can track. Hey, you're not involved in the behind the scenes. 129 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: You know, you know, pushing people. 130 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: I want to gain anything from voting on this. 131 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: Right exactly, and if you don't, you could go prison. 132 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: But these people, it's documented thirty times in this audit 133 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: that this stuff happened, and conflicts of interest and nothing 134 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: we've moved on. 135 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: Well, now they're going to put those checks in place. 136 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: They're also going to have a formal investment policy introduced. 137 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: All of the board votes must now occur in full 138 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: board meetings, not just smaller committees. Everybody's got to be 139 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: there now. 140 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: It's the other thing that is fastening about this report 141 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: is that it really puts puts some sunlight on what 142 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: a clueless, inept goof Eric Holcombe was, because we have 143 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: told you for years on this program he had no 144 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: idea what he was doing as governor. He wasn't interested 145 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: in getting into the nitty gritty on being governor. He, 146 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: much like his predecessor Mike Pence, was simply interested in 147 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: going to events, ribbon cutting, sitting on camels in foreign countries, 148 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: whatever it might have been, piling around at the World 149 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: Economic Forum with globalist, leftist, rotten individuals like himself, or 150 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: going to climate change conferences through the United nations or 151 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: you know, whatever it might have been. And as a 152 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: result because his and I told you this when Hulkom 153 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: was leaving, I think I said this on the air, 154 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: that I had a conversation with a very connected person 155 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: the Hulcomb administration. And they said, or person connected to 156 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: the Hulcomb administration, and they said, oh yeah, that was 157 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: like the running joke in the state House. This guy 158 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: didn't know his head from his ass, and he wasn't 159 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: interested in doing anything other than playing governor. And so 160 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: we just got to do whatever we wanted to do. 161 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: And it's playing out in this report. And it played 162 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: out during COVID when he destroyed our state, when he 163 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: shut the state down, when he tried, when he put 164 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: a million people out of work, when he closed tens 165 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: of thousands of businesses, when he met with the domestic terrorists. 166 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: But told you you're a human Petrie Dish some of 167 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 2: the Ulcom greatest hits. The same guy who told you 168 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: you were a human Petrie Dish, had the meat and 169 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 2: greet with Malik Mohammad. You were told to win serve 170 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 2: Hoosier's well for you to know the truth on things. Yes, 171 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 2: this is the same guy that used your tax dollars 172 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: and spent two hundred thousand dollars in airfare for that 173 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: trip to Egypt for that climate conference in twenty two. 174 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: Two hundred thousand dollars in airfare. And now I just 175 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 2: did a quick little, just a little quick search on 176 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 2: airfare from Indianapolis to. 177 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: Cairo, Egypt. Correct, that's where he was on the camel 178 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: for the Pyramids. 179 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the price ranges from eight hundred and eighty 180 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: three dollars to seventeen hundred dollars. 181 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: A lot of trips make a lot of those. How 182 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: many you make? Like one hundred? 183 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 2: Right? And then I thought, okay, well, hotel for a 184 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: week in February. I believe that conference he went to 185 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: was in February. Uh huh, it was seventeen hundre dollars 186 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: for a hotel. So all together we're talking thirty five 187 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: hundred dollars. Why did he need two hundred thousand to 188 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 2: do that? How many people were going with him? 189 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: Right? This and this is now you're never going to know. 190 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 1: This is exactly what we told you that that Braun 191 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: would just swipe it under the rug and move on 192 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: just like the same he's doing the same thing with 193 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: the with the property taxes. This is the the like 194 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: these people and and and you know, it's easy for 195 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: us to dump on Hulcombe, but really it lies in 196 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: the Republican General Assembly because whether it was doing nothing 197 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: during COVID or doing nothing about any of the stuff 198 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: at the IDC, ultimately we have a very weak Republican 199 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: governor in terms of the dealing with the legislature. Legislature 200 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: holds all the cards and set all the parameters by 201 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: which the governor has to operate. They allowed this. They 202 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: are joined at the hip. The Indiana Republican Party is 203 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: joined with all of the Hulcombe garbage. They are joined 204 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: with all the disgraceful behavior from Eric Holcombe. You cannot 205 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: separate them. You cannot separate in the you know, in 206 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: the beginning it was Brian Bosma and David Long, and 207 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: then it became Todd Houston and Rod Bray and all 208 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: their rank and file minions that time and again, whether 209 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: it was raising taxes or shutting down the state or 210 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: this crony capitalist bull crab did absolutely nothing, and they 211 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: propped it up. That is who is ultimately responsible for 212 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: Eric Holcombe is the Republican Party and the Indiana General Assembly, 213 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: that is, who enabled this to happen. 214 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 2: I'm still curious how Eric Holcomb's sitting on a camel 215 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 2: was contributing to economic development in the state of Indiana. 216 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: Where is the return on investment for that? You know, 217 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: what will bring business to Indiana deregulation. 218 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: But it's the broader question of what have we gotten 219 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: for any of this money? 220 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: Right? 221 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: If the money has been spent so wisely, why have 222 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: our taxes never been higher? 223 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 2: You know? Do you remember when they when they said, oh, 224 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 2: we're a billion dollar short, we need to raise taxes. 225 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: Yes, like a few months ago. 226 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: Found it? 227 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: You did? You finded it? Casey? 228 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 2: Found it? One point for found it. It is Kendilly Casey. 229 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,359 Speaker 2: It's ninety three WIBC. 230 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: Casey. 231 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: Do you ever run. 232 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 1: Around to think to yourself that other than people who 233 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: listen to this radio station, that maybe nobody has any 234 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: idea what's going on out there. 235 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 2: I don't only think it, but I know it. Having 236 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: conversations with some friends and they're like, huh, And I think, 237 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: am I not normal anymore? It's nobody paying attention. 238 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: Well, you know I told you when you took this job. 239 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: I said, the great awakening. Well, once you see it, 240 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: then you can't unsign. I know. And if I had 241 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: to suffer through this, you've got company fun. My goal 242 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: is to make as many people suffer through it. It's again, 243 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: it's like the movie They Live with Rodny Piper where 244 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: he puts those glasses on and anyway, there's a poll 245 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: out about the shutdown and who Americans are blaming for 246 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 1: the shutdown. Now this does not surprise me, but I 247 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: am fascinated that we keep getting put on full display. 248 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: How just completely uninformed the public at largest. Would you 249 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: like to read the results of the poll for our audience? 250 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: Sure, this is in regards to the government shut down. 251 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: The poll says forty seven percent of Americans blame President 252 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: Trump and Republicans in Congress for the shutdown. Thirty percent 253 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 2: blame Democrats. 254 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so by fairly wide margin. Did you say who 255 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: the poll was? I forget it. 256 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: That's what I was just looking up. 257 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: Really like The Hill had an article about it, and 258 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: some other people, maybe as a Washington Post. I think 259 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: it was the Washington Post. That sounds right. I read 260 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: that article yesterday and sent it over to you that 261 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: I think that is correct. Anyway, doesn't matter. Point is. 262 00:13:53,880 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: I totally believe that's where it's at because the like, again, 263 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: let's review what the shutdown is. The Republicans approved most 264 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: of the Biden spent so Biden's president does such a 265 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: horrible job, you can't even run for president again. Trump 266 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: runs essentially against Biden, even though it's Kamma, and he's like, hey, 267 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: I'm going to fix the issues, which are the two 268 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: things are the border and inflation, cost of living. Border. 269 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: Everybody says, okay, sign us up for that. Sweeps all 270 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: the swing states. Then the Republicans get in there. So 271 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: you'd think if you voted for Trump, you're signing up 272 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: for the Republicans flight again, like they always do, limited government, 273 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: we gotta stop spending money, we gotta reform government programs, 274 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: we gotta cut this, we gotta cut that. We got 275 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: to spending under control. Like I thought that was kind 276 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: of a thing. Right now, they never fall through, but 277 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: I thought that was the thing they ran on. But 278 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: the Republicans they don't cut any government really. Of note, 279 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: they just basically passed the Biden spending levels. I mean 280 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: they tinkered on a few things, some of the green 281 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: energy credits in the BBB, et cetera. But for most 282 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: part it's pretty much Biden running the country. And they 283 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: pass a bill that continues to do that, and then 284 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: people are like, no, I don't want that, but they 285 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: ran on cutting the government. They're not even cutting the government, 286 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: but you're mad that they're not what that they're doing 287 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: too many restrictions because the little government they are cutting. 288 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: You don't want that, and so you're mad about that 289 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: in your This is what I'm saying, like, none of 290 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: it makes any sense, Casey, none of it makes any sense. 291 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 2: Sixty six percent of the respondents say that they're very 292 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 2: or somewhat concerned about the shutdown. 293 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: Well, that shows you who's taking the poll then, because 294 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: why would you be unless you are a government worker, 295 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: which many many people are government workers these days, why 296 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: would you be remotely concerned about this? Because Casey, third day, 297 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: I was just going to. 298 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 2: Say, day three and what to let somebody go in 299 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: the federal government. You have to give them a sixty 300 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 2: day notice? 301 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: Is that true? 302 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: I believe. 303 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: So you can't just fire someone you're out of here. 304 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: You've got to give them a notice. I believe sixty days. 305 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: So many people are saying it's sixty one days. That's 306 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 2: when these furloughs will become permanent. 307 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, I see what you're saying. 308 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: Will they will they stretch it out to sixty one days? 309 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: Well, But the point of all this is the Democrats 310 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: are arguing for more government people just conceivably voted for 311 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: They wanted less government by voting for Trump and to 312 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: put the Republicans in charge, and yet now they're mad 313 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: at the Republicans even though the Democrats want more government. 314 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: Now the Republicans don't want any less government, which is 315 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: what they were elected to do, but they're the bad 316 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: guys for wanting less government than the Democrats did. Did 317 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: I lay that out wrongably? But it's very confusing. It's 318 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: very confusing. And this is like, this is people just 319 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: don't have any idea what's going on, and this is 320 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: why our country's in the shape it's in. And if 321 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: you were to ask those people, it would have been 322 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: interesting to see if there was a follow up question. 323 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: Why Now, I realize you got to fit pole questions 324 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: into boxes so you can have results, But why you 325 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: blame the Republicans because why. 326 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 2: They're not don't like the memes? 327 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not doing what that you wanted them to do. 328 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: That they're not doing. Now. The crazy part of all 329 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: of this is the Democrats are going to end up 330 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: winning because they're going to get what they want, which 331 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: is the Obamacare subsidies to continue, whether it's by See 332 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: if I were Johnson, or I were Thune, or I 333 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,959 Speaker 1: were Trump, and I actually cared about getting the country 334 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: back on track, which look, let's not kid ourselves. Your 335 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: choices now are bad or worse in this country, and 336 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: the Republicans don't care about your finances or being able 337 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: to afford life. But if you actually did what I 338 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: would look at Schumer, and I would look at Jeffries, 339 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: Haqe Jeffries, Chuck Schumer, the head Democrat in the Senate, 340 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: and Hakiem Jeffries, the head Democrat in the House, and 341 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: I would say, Okay, well, we were going to consider 342 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: taking up something with Obamacare subsidies, but not now you're done. 343 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: You've talked your way out of it. But the Republicans 344 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 1: are going to do you watch Casey. It is eleven 345 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: twenty six. On October third, twenty twenty five. Sometime in 346 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: the near future, there will be an announcement made that 347 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 1: a certain number of Republicans have agreed to cross the 348 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: aisle and guarantee a vote on the continuation of Obamacare 349 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: subsidies with the Democrats in exchange for the government reopening. Yes, 350 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: you watch, as sure as we're sitting here right now, 351 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: that will be the thing that comes to fruition, and 352 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: people will keep getting screwed, and insurance will remain unaffordable, 353 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: and everything will just be a giant giveaway to the 354 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: insurance companies and no government will get cut. And then somehow, 355 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: after all that happens, people will still be mad at 356 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: me for talking about what actually happened. 357 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 2: Well, Jeffries, he says that it's the Republicans who intended 358 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 2: to cause the shutdown. They did it on purpose. He's 359 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 2: calling it the Republican Healthcare crisis. Meanwhile, the Senate Majority 360 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: leader Thoon he said that he believes there are some 361 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 2: Democrats that are looking for a way out of the impasse. 362 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: So sure they are. Because the Democrats want government. They 363 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: want the government to be as big as it possibly can. 364 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: They know the Republicans are weak. They almost always give 365 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: in on this sort of stuff. The Republicans are just 366 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: as invested in continuing the legalized vote buying on all 367 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: levels as the Democrats are, and so they know the 368 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: Republicans won't hold out forever. The Republicans have donors and 369 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: lobbyists and key constituencies that they've got to make happy, 370 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: and so that will be the deal that will be struck. 371 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: Nothing will get any better, nothing will get smaller, nothing 372 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: will get more efficient, and the Republicans will once again 373 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: prove themselves to be pathological liars. After fifteen years of 374 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: talking about getting grind of Obamacare, they have it right now. 375 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: All they have to do is nothing. Obamacare cannot exist 376 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: without the subsidies. Literally, if the Republicans do nothing, they 377 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: will fulfill a promise they have made for fifteen years, 378 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: which is for Obamacare to go away. They don't have 379 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: to do a darn thing, just do nothing. And yet 380 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 1: they will jump through every hoop in front of them 381 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: to get to the point where they keep those Obamacare 382 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: subsidies going because they need the legalized vote buying. They 383 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: need to take money from other people and give it 384 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 1: to someone who didn't earn it, and they need to 385 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: prop up their big insurance lobby donors. That's exactly what 386 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: they need to do. 387 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 2: It is Kendell and Casey. It's ninety three WIBC. I 388 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 2: can't take any more negativity. 389 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you about this. We're gonna do another topic. 390 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: It was I can't do any more negativity. It's Friday. 391 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 1: It's Friday. Yeah, Okay, So I tell you about my 392 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: new hobby, and you tell me if I'm a total 393 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: weirdo or if this is actually interesting? Okay, what do 394 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 1: you So? My new thing is to go on people's 395 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: Facebook pages. And because of the way Facebook is set up, 396 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: it's relatively easy to do. The way they're photos. They've 397 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: organized the photos now. And my new thing that I 398 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: am enthralled with is going to the profiles picture section. Okay, 399 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: and if they've had their Facebook page for any length 400 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: of time, starting at the bottom, seeing what that date is, 401 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 1: and then seeing how people have aged over time. Oh right, 402 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: is that interesting? 403 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 2: Or is that often they've updated their profile? 404 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: Yeah? So you can see, like, let's say, you know, 405 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: you could go look at mine and you can basically 406 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: see twenty years of my life and you can say, 407 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: how is how is Rob? You know? 408 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 2: Aged? Right? 409 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: And I'm fascinated with this to see one how cameras 410 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: have improved depending on how long somebody's had the Facebook 411 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: for you can really really see it. I mean you 412 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: were doing them like on flip phones and stuff and 413 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: little cameras when it started. But I am very interested 414 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: to see how some in some cases people have had 415 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: it fifteen years, some it's twenty years, right, and then 416 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: you know, like five minutes of your time, you can 417 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: basically see, you know, whether they've had kids, how did 418 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: they age after they had kids. It's just this real 419 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 1: weight gain, the weight long, yeah, the real time rolling, 420 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: you know, Caroline, because one of the things that you 421 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: know is fascic to me is photographs, like physical photographs 422 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 1: are more and more becoming a thing of the past, 423 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: and the value of the physical photograph, like for people 424 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: my parents' generation, if that photograph got lost, then the 425 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: thing just ceased to exist. Now it's on social media, 426 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: it's on your phone, if you've got some sort of 427 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: backup system, it's there. You have, you know, five or 428 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: six different ways you can always find whatever that thing was, 429 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: and sort of the special nature of it kind of 430 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 1: evaporates and goes away because you can get it so 431 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: many places, whereas you know, even twenty years ago or 432 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 1: fifteen years ago. If you lost a photograph, that was it. 433 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 1: That thing just boof went up into the ether, and 434 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: it's like it never happened. 435 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 2: Do you ever do this, I'll do this often somebody 436 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 2: else sale, when did that happen? And oh I don't remember, 437 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 2: but I can go back in my old Facebook feed 438 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 2: and oh, well that sure that was June of twenty thirteen. Yeah, 439 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 2: because it's right there. When were you born? Do you 440 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: go back and see like your born date on Facebook? 441 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: The date you started the account? 442 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,479 Speaker 1: Oh you when I started it? It reminds you now. 443 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: I remember the build up to Facebook because it was 444 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: only for college kids, and I distinctly, Look, I'm not 445 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: I wasn't always the person I am today. Casey and 446 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: my growth, mind and priorities operated in different ways. But 447 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: I remember this is how vividly I remember this. I 448 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: remember the girl's house I was at engaging in various 449 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 1: social interactions with in two thousand and five, and her 450 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 1: showing me you got to check this thing out, and 451 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: showing me because this person went to the way Facebook 452 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: worked in the beginning is you had to have a 453 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: college email, and they only let certain colleges in at 454 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,719 Speaker 1: a time. It wasn't like they just opened the floodgates, 455 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 1: and so it was a big deal. 456 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 2: When your college was on the list. 457 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: And this person went to a much more prestigious university 458 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: than I was attending, and she had the Facebook, and 459 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: I remember her showing me the Facebook, and my initial 460 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: thought was, don't comment on how hot the chicks are. 461 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: Don't comment on how hot the chicks are. Don't comment. 462 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: And it was like all of these, all of these 463 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: college girls of me being a college guy at the time, 464 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: were readily available to have social interaction with. And all 465 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: I have to do is get on this thing. Yeah, 466 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: but you can have a college email. I have a 467 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: college email. 468 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 2: I'm good. 469 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: Not the right one, Well, what is the right one? 470 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? 471 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: And then you know, they finally over time and it 472 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: became the I really feel like when the movie came 473 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: out is when Facebook started declining because they more and 474 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: more so letting everybody on, and within a few years 475 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: it was just you liked. 476 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 2: It better when it was a little more selective. Well, 477 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 2: you're not college age anymore, though, Well, but I'm. 478 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: Of course not, and I have aged out of that 479 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: portion of my you know, existence. But now, thanks to 480 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: Facebook and the way they've simplified the photos, you know, 481 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: friends or whatever. You can look at and say, wow, 482 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: they were doing pretty strong until about twenty fourteen, and you. 483 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 2: Know, something happened always going on there. 484 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: Does that make me a weirdo? Or is that actually interesting? 485 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: You can say whatever. 486 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 2: I think that's you know, you passing your time like that, 487 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 2: sitting on the couch, got the TV going. 488 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: I mean it's like a flipbook, right. 489 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 2: You're scrolling through other people's memory. 490 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like an interactive flip book. 491 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 2: Did you do yourself? Did you look at how you 492 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 2: have changed over the years. 493 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: I haven't really changed exactly. 494 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 2: You have updated your profile? 495 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: Pick I have? I will send to you. I guess 496 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: what would be my very send this to you if 497 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: you filibuster here for a minute, and you can tell 498 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: me if you think I've changed all that. 499 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 2: It probably it doesn't work for those people who don't 500 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 2: use a picture of themselves as their profile. 501 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, no, no, I mean it's got to be well, 502 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of people. It's kind of funny 503 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: too to go through there and see things different people 504 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: were into at various times, and the different you know, 505 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: whatevers they did and what their priorities were. 506 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 2: And Kodak, Yeah, they're still around, introducing a smile and 507 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 2: digital instant print camera. It prints two by three color images. 508 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 2: It's Bluetooth enabled, so it's kind of it's like the Polaroid, right, 509 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 2: only it's the new version. Did you find it? 510 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I found several of them here. I'll send you 511 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: a send you an early one. See what you think now? 512 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 2: Were you just going through your female friends list? Oh? 513 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: Oh, Casey, I'm a married person. I just ask I 514 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: was going through going on over there, wide variety of people, 515 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: And what. 516 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 2: Made you decide to do that? Was there a catalyst 517 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 2: for that? 518 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: You were just like, day like, I don't know, something 519 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: happened and I was like, oh, you know, I know 520 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: what it was. It was Actually I had a I say, 521 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: a friend. It wasn't like we hung out the Bolagio together, 522 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 1: but somebody I grew up with, went to high school with, 523 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: recently passed away, and I thought it would be, you know, 524 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: very young. Obviously I'm saving this, and I thought, well, 525 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: that would be interesting to sort of see their life 526 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: because I knew much about their life and it'd be 527 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: interesting to see what they prioritized in their life from 528 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,479 Speaker 1: their profile photos. And then I said, look at that, well, 529 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: this is actually very interesting. I wonder what other people's 530 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: look like. And then I got down the rabbit hole 531 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: and next thing I knew, it was like four hours 532 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: was gone. 533 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 2: You were doing it NonStop. 534 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: Did you send me your I haven't sent it yet. 535 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 2: Okay, you're trying to save your picture and send it up, 536 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 2: trying to do all of you probably haven't changed. There's 537 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 2: got to be a year or two there where you 538 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 2: before though, we grow hair, Indie deal. 539 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like there's all that. I got all sorts 540 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: of pictures here. I'll send it to you. This is 541 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: from two thousand and seven. 542 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 2: Whenever you say that you haven't changed, it always reminds 543 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: me of that Seinfeld episode where he scratches out the 544 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 2: size of his jeans to make it say that he's 545 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 2: wearing the same size that he always did. 546 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: All right, I just sent it to you. Tell me 547 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: what you okay, tell me what you think. 548 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 2: Here we go. 549 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: So this would be that'd be eighteen years ago. 550 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 2: We get you. You're wearing that's a Bears jersey. Yeah, 551 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 2: fifty four, who is no Brian Urlacker. 552 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: Okay, so you know the rule on the jerseys is 553 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: you can wear another man's name on the back if 554 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: it was a childhood hero and so Erlacker was was 555 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: playing in the NFL when I was a kid. 556 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 2: You are rocking a man spread? There, aren't you sitting 557 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 2: on leather couch? Do you know where? I mean? Like, 558 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 2: can you remember where you are in this picture? 559 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: Exactly where I am? Okay, my house? 560 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,479 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so you're sitting there on a leather couch 561 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 2: doing the man's spread for sure, wearing a Brian her 562 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 2: Locker shirt holding a football. You must have been watching 563 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 2: a football game. What made you decided game? Okay, it 564 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 2: makes sense, hence the jersey. Your hair is so curly 565 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 2: in this picture. Yeah, it's a little longer in curly. 566 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 2: You do look pretty much the same, yeah, though. 567 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: Everybody's so different. I'm a change youthful beauty. 568 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 2: What great that made you? 569 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: Me and Sidney Sweeney? 570 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 2: You're setting up your Facebook account? 571 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? 572 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 2: What made you pick this picture? 573 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: And you're right it was. 574 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 2: You can really tell how cameras have gotten so much 575 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 2: better because it's a little fuzzy. 576 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: Well, I that is not the original picture. Now full disclosure. 577 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: When I ran for public office, I cleaned a. 578 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you had to scrub your social media. That makes sense. 579 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: Not that I was out committing any sort of felonious action, 580 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: but just a few that I thought. 581 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 2: You know, that might be questioned. 582 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I still got them hidden somewhere. I 583 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: think I'll find them someday. And there's nothing wrong with them. 584 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: There's nothing like, oh, you would be so embarrassed if 585 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: that came out. But it's like, why I give the 586 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: other side a freebie? 587 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 2: M hm. 588 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: That was like eighteen years ago. That was not the original, 589 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: but it's one of the first. I don't know, five 590 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: or six probably admit it. 591 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 2: I'm trying to see if I can find minutes. 592 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: You would have totally dated me in your twenties. 593 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 2: You would have You're like my little brother. 594 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: No, but I'm saying that version night we were the 595 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: same age. 596 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 2: I would have. 597 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: Been twenty years old or twenty one or whatever it was. 598 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 2: I was twenty, you would have been six. 599 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: I'd saying we were the same age because someone could 600 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: have morphed, when were you twenty in the seventies? 601 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 2: In nineteen ninety is when I hit twenty. 602 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: Okay, so let's say nineteen ninety two. Version of you 603 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: and two thousand and seven version of me. 604 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 2: That's how we have to do it right. 605 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: Oh no, what's your first picture? 606 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 2: Well, I'm trying to find it. It's brown hair, brown hair. 607 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: You're like the fugitive. 608 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: You didn't think this is natural blonde? Did you? Come on? 609 00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 2: That's why the trust in media is sinking. Uh see 610 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 2: to Kennelly, Casey, it is ninety three WYBC. Let's call 611 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 2: the bouncer, shut the door. 612 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: This magic moment drifts across the floor. It's Benny King's 613 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: voice fills the end. Baby, that's the power of Casey. 614 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: This is our last segment together this week. Yes, I 615 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: hope you've had as much fun time. 616 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 2: I've had so much fun. 617 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: Probably because you had one whole day where you didn't 618 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: have to deal with pain. Probably why you had so 619 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: much fun this week. 620 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 2: Oh human beginning of the week. 621 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: Day can deal with me for four days? 622 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 2: Right exactly as we. 623 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: Wrap up this week, our time together, both you and 624 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: me and us and the audience. You ever wonder how 625 00:31:58,960 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: all this ends? 626 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 2: Uh? Well, you know it's interesting you say that because 627 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing that we've learned this week 628 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 2: is that businesses will come with deregulation and they're just 629 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 2: passing these tax breaks onto hoosiers. And that's where the 630 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 2: issue is. Does Eric Holcombe going and sitting on a camel, 631 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 2: what economic development came from that? What did that do 632 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 2: for me as a taxpayer in this state? 633 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: Well, and you just hit the nail on the head. 634 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: So obviously we spent much of our day to day 635 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: talking about this, iadc audit. It is exactly what we 636 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: told you it was going to be. Exactly what is happening, 637 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: which is nothing of any substance will happen you throw 638 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: eight eight hundred thousand dollars to be told, hey, we 639 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: need to really crack down on conflicts of interest and 640 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: being more transparent. So like when you take that this 641 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: thing that we've spent a lot of our show talking 642 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: about today, when you pair it up with how much 643 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: money these statewide officials are spending of ours to travel 644 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: for what benefit? We don't really see any. 645 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 2: Right, not even out of the state, out of the country. 646 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 2: In many cases, like it is. 647 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: A reminder that whatever you want to call it, and 648 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: I think you can call it a variety of different things, 649 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: depending on what the specific circumstance is. The grift, the 650 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: unethical behavior, the corruption, all of it is so massive 651 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: that I don't like I got into this because I 652 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: believe you can make a difference. I got this whole 653 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: thing right. Like I was just some guy fifteen years 654 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: ago who owned a business and it was like, man, 655 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: I pay a lot of taxes, I should really probabilate 656 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: on it. Yeah, like I should do something about this, right, 657 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: And naively believed, hey, we can really make a difference. 658 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: We'll all hold hands and run together. Right. And the 659 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: more you get into it, and the longer you're in it, 660 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: the worse it's seems to get. And I come back 661 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: to I think the lasting legacy of COVID is going 662 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: to be that the politicians figured out, we can do 663 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: whatever the heck we want to do, and nobody's going 664 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: to stop us. Because if they didn't stop us shutting 665 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 1: down society and putting people out of work and costing 666 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: them in their businesses, what would they stop us on. 667 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 2: Well, now you know that the governor, Mike Brown knows 668 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 2: what he's dealing with, and it's going to be up 669 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 2: to him to make a decision. Is this quasi government 670 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 2: group going to continue? And is he going to make 671 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 2: real change. I mean this whole you know, conflict of interest, 672 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 2: that's not even what we're talking about. It's the huge 673 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 2: enormous amount of money going to select individuals who are 674 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 2: lining their pockets with our money. And is it really 675 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 2: bringing economic development like it's supposed to be to the 676 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 2: state of Indiana. 677 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: So how do you beat the thing? That's the thing? 678 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: I look, I've really I think I touched on this 679 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: earlier this week. I have really struggled with this the 680 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: past few weeks, which is like, I think you're always aware. 681 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: I'm always aware from the peripheral, like how corrupt and 682 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: rotten the system is. But on each thing, you think, well, 683 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: I can I can make a difference, I can change 684 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 1: and then you kind of realize even if you win 685 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: some things. 686 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 2: You're not gonna win. You can win some battles, but 687 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 2: not the war. 688 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 1: I don't know how you do it. I mean, I'd 689 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: like to think that you could, but it seems like 690 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,919 Speaker 1: either everybody goes in there for the grift, or even 691 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: the few people who don't go in for the grift 692 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: they get getting they get manipulated, corrupted, whatever word you 693 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 1: want to say, Like think of the Indiana General Assembly. 694 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: I can think of maybe five people that I would 695 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 1: say of the one hundred and fifty, and I'm talking 696 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: to this on both sides, right, they're totally in it 697 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: for the maybe ten, we'll say one out of every fifteen, 698 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: because I'll include the Demo. There are some Democrats who 699 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: I think are totally in it for the right reasons, 700 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: even if I don't agree with them politically. But think 701 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: about that. That's in the state of Indiana, which is 702 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: supposedly a deep red Republican conservative whatever state. Now we 703 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: all know it's not, but at least on paper, that's 704 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 1: what it is. Think about how bad it is in 705 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: some of these other states, and then magnify that out 706 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: to Washington, d c. Sure, And after fifteen years, I'm 707 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: just sitting here going, am I just in the entertainment business? 708 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 2: Well, you're a broadcaster? Is that that's the number one 709 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 2: job for you? 710 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 1: Is that? What I do now, though, is that the 711 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: number one job is just to entertain Because after fifteen 712 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: years of pushing back against this, it doesn't seem to 713 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: get any better. It just seems to keep getting worse. 714 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 1: And amazingly, to me, the people refuse to in a 715 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: peaceful law abiding manner. Rise up. I say, enough of 716 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: all of you fools, enough of all of you clowns. 717 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: Stop abusing us, stop abusing our money. We're done here, 718 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: and people just they don't seem to do it in 719 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: a at least in a volume than the large enough 720 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: to make a difference. 721 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 2: I think that you have to look at some of 722 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 2: the achievements that you have done, and that is bringing 723 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 2: light to all of this. When you first started, everybody 724 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,320 Speaker 2: was on the white hat black hat train, our side, 725 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 2: your side. I think more people are waking up to 726 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,280 Speaker 2: the fact that this isn't a right or left issue, 727 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 2: this is an up down issue. 728 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: But if they won't do anything about it, right, So 729 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: that's the next step. When I see the people go 730 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: meet with the governor, who know what's going on, and look, 731 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 1: they're smart people. I can't believe they're naive enough to 732 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,399 Speaker 1: buy his bullcrap. And then they get just he gets caught, 733 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: the governor in outright lies about the property text thing, 734 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 1: telling these people, oh, there's more coming, I'm gonna do this, 735 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that, and then he in the news 736 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,839 Speaker 1: cover goes everybody's pretty happy with the property tax bill, 737 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: and yet they keep meeting with him. They keep hosting 738 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: their photo together. Sure, then you have the people who 739 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: go to these Lincoln Day dinners. They know exactly what 740 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 1: these people. 741 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 2: Are proximity to power. 742 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: There's no pushback. 743 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 2: Well, it's either if you can't beat them, join them. 744 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,879 Speaker 2: So I think there's some people that are trying to join. 745 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: Are we the last people who haven't joined them? Are 746 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 1: we the last one he might be? 747 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 2: Are you saying you want to be a rich mand 748 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 2: north of Richmond? Well? 749 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: I left them, I see, I guess I had. I 750 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 1: didn't even know what they were, you know, like like 751 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,240 Speaker 1: I was, I was part of a nefarious operation until 752 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 1: I realized it wasn't a farious operation, and then I 753 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 1: left them. So I know similar to have joined them, 754 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 1: I turned state's evidence. Sure, But I just don't. I 755 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I hate I feel like this 756 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 1: is a like a Debbie Downer segment. But I don't. 757 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: I'm always thinking about what's the next way to try 758 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:50,720 Speaker 1: to make a difference. 759 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't know. 760 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. I don't know the 761 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: next step, what is it. 762 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,720 Speaker 2: The next step is to get a good night's sleep, 763 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 2: take care of yourself, love your family, pray on it, 764 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,240 Speaker 2: and hopefully the answer will come to you over the weekend. 765 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: Well, prayer is always a good thing. I was hoping 766 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: for something a little more concrete, but prayer is always wonderful. 767 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 2: And with that, I think that's a great place to start. 768 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 1: You can pray, Hey, maybe I won't have to work 769 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: with Rob on Monday. 770 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 2: Thank you Rob, Thank you Kevin, thank you for listening. 771 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 2: Have a great weekend. This is being Kendall and Casey 772 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 2: on ninety three WIBC.