1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Well, that was an eventful day yesterday. 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 2: You were busy, weren't you. 3 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Yesterday was why I don't do anything nice for anybody? 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: Say more words, Well, because I just this is always 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: what happens. I try to help people out and then 6 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: I end up just ruining my whole day. And I've 7 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: already made the commitment. And you know me, if I 8 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: commit to do it, there's no more loyal person than me. 9 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: If I commit to doing something for you, I will 10 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: do it. And so yesterday I went over to the 11 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: Indiana State House and I hang out with all the 12 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: freaks and lunatics and so against the districting bill. Now, you, Casey, 13 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: we're the real hero at all of this, because look, 14 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have put So I was asked by the 15 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: people who are against redistricting. They said, look, we need 16 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: a little bo star power. We need somebody kind of 17 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: bring some attention to this. We need They didn't say 18 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: it like this, but they're like, we need some people 19 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: who know how to articulate the message in a fashion 20 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: that might resonate with the people and you know, making 21 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: the call in the shots right. And this is of course, 22 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: in front of the Senate Election Committee. They heard the 23 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: redistricting bill yesterday. We'll get to the outcome, which, by 24 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: the way, how good a mine? 25 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was amazing. You and I were texting last 26 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 2: night about that, and you said, I think it's going 27 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: to come down six to three. Lo, and behold, that's 28 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: what it was. 29 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: But not only did this, I think it was gonna 30 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: be six to three, I said, with very specifically who yeah, 31 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: and what they were going to say the three who 32 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: voted in favor, And I was exactly right, And we'll 33 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 1: get to that in a second. But they so they said, look, 34 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: will you go over there? Will you? Cause you got 35 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: to speak in two minutes. You got to look professionally 36 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: all that. They're like, okay, fine, I'll do it, and 37 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: then like everything else in my like, oh, it'll be quick. 38 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: You'll be in fast, to be out fast. It'll be fine. 39 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: The things start an hour later than I was told. Yeah, 40 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: I was there for two hours, so by the time 41 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: I was all in, it was three hours. To speak 42 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: for two minutes. 43 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I was like, where where are you? When 44 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: are you talking? I'm watching this thing to hear what 45 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 2: you had to say. And it just kept dragging on 46 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: and on. I mean, they were quick though, with the 47 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: two minutes fast on the buzzer, they were not letting 48 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: anyone go over. 49 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: One hundred and twenty seven people signed up to speak. 50 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: Now I did not. I was probably number fifty, so 51 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: I did not stay for the whole thing. By the way, 52 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: that's like the way it works is they you know, 53 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: they the person speaking, and then they announced the people 54 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: that are after, so you can get in line to 55 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: go in and speak. And I was told this, and 56 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: then I felt it in the room. Right, my name 57 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: goes up on the board and they say your name. 58 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: And Gaskell, the guy who's running the meeting who once 59 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: came on our show, and just he was the guy 60 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: who came on our show. He went from Munsie, right, 61 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: he came on the show and told us how against 62 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: property taxes he was now crummy the system was and 63 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: now he was going to fight to make the system better. 64 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: And then he voted for that abomination of a bill 65 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: on property. You remember him, So he's he's heading this 66 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: committee up and he is like a ghost had just 67 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: like walked right in front of him when he saw 68 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: the name and said it, And of course everybody else 69 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: perks up, and people were tweeting about it, and and 70 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: I go in there and it is like the boogeyman 71 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: had entered the room, right, And so look, it was 72 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 1: overwhelmingly no the people who spoke. 73 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 2: The ninety nine people testified, eighty opposed, nineteen were in favor. 74 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: It's pretty good that only twenty eight didn't didn't stay 75 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: around as long as that thing went on, because I 76 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: mean it was like five or six hours of people's speaking, 77 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: So that's pretty good. So what it was eighty eighty 78 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: to nineteen. Okay, so again overwhelmingly knows. Just like every 79 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: other event, people have been overwhelmingly against us. Now the 80 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: yes side got to memo. So here's what's fascinating the 81 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: Yes side because basically nobody showed up to speak in 82 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: favor of the last time. So they convinced all the 83 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: what I call the usual suspects. It's people go to everything, 84 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: it's the same faces, it's never anybody knew. It's the 85 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: same six or seven niche people that are left that 86 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: still believe anything that comes out of the mouth of 87 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: Braun or Micah. They got those people to go speak, 88 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: and they got them there early enough on the sign 89 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: end because they usually go on how you sign in 90 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: that they came up basically right out of the gate, 91 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: and so the early reports were like, oh my gosh, 92 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: there's so many more yes people here than the last time, 93 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: and then by the time it was all done, it 94 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: was the usual like overwhelming. 95 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: No. 96 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: The other thing that was interesting is all of those 97 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: people that appeared then went to a meeting with Braun 98 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: and Micah. 99 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: After did they had some water and coffee? 100 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: Can you okay? So can you imagine some of these 101 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: people were, well, they're driving down that's all they got 102 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: at the residents. 103 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 2: Not even snickers the governor's mansion, not even. 104 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: A Snickers bar, okay. So A couple of things that 105 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: are fascinating about this to me. Number one the fact 106 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: that the sitting governor of the state of Indiana knows 107 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: his lieutenant governor is under grand jury investigation for multiple things, 108 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: Like it's irrefutable that's going on, and he is still 109 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: on the regular paling around with this guy, Like whatever 110 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: comes out of that, if it's anything, Braun can't do 111 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: the me so stupid me don't know routine because there 112 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: are multiple high profile events where he has been seen 113 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: arm in arm with Micah, the lieutenant governor whose office 114 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: is undergrand jury investigation right now, and Braun knows that 115 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: and he's still piling around with him. That is fascinating 116 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: to me. But the other part of this is, can 117 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: you imagine if you're somebody from Fort Wayne, like I 118 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: know some of those people who are very mad at me. 119 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,119 Speaker 1: And we'll get to that in a second two because 120 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: one of them said something to me yesterday. 121 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 2: But like you, you were popular. 122 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: You have to drive all the way down from Fort Wayne. 123 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: You have to be there for at least a couple hours, 124 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: even if you're speaking early. Get in line all too, 125 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: blah blah blah the other stuff. And your big reward 126 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: for that is coffee and water with them, with the 127 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: governor who is despised by our state and in his 128 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: stege assistant who is on whose office is under grand 129 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: jury investigation. 130 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 2: That's your big. 131 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: Reward for ruining your whole day. 132 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, for some of those people, that is a 133 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: reward because they want to be elbow to elbow with power. 134 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: One of these people told me afterwards. They came up 135 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: to me and said, I'm very disappointed in you. Yeah, 136 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: And I looked at her and I said, get in line. 137 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: It's long. 138 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: You're going to be waiting a while and we'll talk 139 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: about some of that later. But anyway, so overwhelming people 140 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: against this. As you mentioned, I spoke Ethan Hatcher, who's 141 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: going to join us here in just a little bit. 142 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: Get his take on the day yesterday he spoke. 143 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 2: They said they wanted to wrap it up by six o'clock. 144 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: At seven point forty one, they were finally taking the vote. 145 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, went a little bit long. So so ultimately, so 146 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: I tweeted this out. I said this to Casey, uh 147 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: hours before they had the vote. I said, here's what's 148 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: going to happen, Casey, and oh gosh, darn it. It's 149 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: nine to thirteen on what is today, the ninth of December, 150 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: and it's my least favorite part of every show. We 151 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: got to do it in the opening segment, which is 152 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: where I have to tell everybody how right I was. 153 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: And did I not tell you? I said, Casey, here's 154 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: how this is going to go down. The vote is 155 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: going to be six to three in favor. Three of 156 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: them are going to say I'm voting solely to move 157 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: this forward for my fellow colleagues to be able to 158 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: vote on this. I am not committing to committed to 159 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: voting yes, and Casey. 160 00:06:58,480 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: Exactly what happened? 161 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: What's exactly what? 162 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, the only Republican to vote against the bill was 163 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 2: Greg Walker, and you had a couple of them, Rogers 164 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: and Donados say that they may change their vote on 165 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,679 Speaker 2: the Senate floor. Good said the bill needs more vetting. 166 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: Now. Greg Good is the guy. This is what's disgusting 167 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: about all this. Greg Good is the guy from Tera 168 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: HOAt who had had a town hall and not a 169 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: single person showed up in support. Seventy people showed up 170 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: to speak against and he still is undecided. Dude, had 171 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: it been eighty to zero, would that have suaded you? 172 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: This is what pisses me off about all of this. 173 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: You guys could have killed this yesterday. Rogers was Rogers 174 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: and Donado are the two who voted not to come 175 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: back back. I think the other two who voted to 176 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: move it forward but to hear from their constituents. I 177 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: think that's how it went down. You voted not to 178 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: come back just a couple of weeks ago. Kill it 179 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: and be done with it. But they don't want to smoke. 180 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: That's why they did this. They don't want to be 181 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: the ones to have killed it. They didn't want the smoke. 182 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: So Senator Greg Walker he voted against it, and he 183 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: got very emotional at the end when they're taking the vote, 184 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: this is my favorite thing. They all want to comment 185 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: on the way they're voting. Sure, yes, here's how I'm 186 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: going to vote. But let me tell you why first. 187 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: And here's what he had to say. 188 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 3: Permission to explain my vote very briefly. One of those 189 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 3: who testify today asked me to I'll read it again. 190 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 3: I think this is a direct quote to shed my 191 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 3: sense of fairness. Is that the kind of advice you 192 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 3: would give your children, or your grandchildren, or your nieces 193 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 3: and nephews. 194 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 1: Oh Jesus crying. 195 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 3: I will not shed my sense of fairness. 196 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 2: I vote. 197 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 3: Thank you. 198 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: He's crying. 199 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 2: He was very emotional. He said the bill leaves no 200 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 2: room for wiggle and could be challenged in court. 201 00:08:55,920 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 1: But he was crying over a redistricting bill. No tears 202 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: for when people get screwed on property taxes. No tiers 203 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: when these utility bills rise every single year and are 204 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: pricing people out of being able to heat and cool 205 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: their homes. No tiers for the hundreds of millions in 206 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 1: corruption with the Indiana Economic Development Corporation. Money taken from 207 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: poor and middle class people, given to the uber connected 208 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: and squandered. 209 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 2: No tears on that. 210 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: But when these guys get affected by something, get out 211 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: of here,