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Speaker 1: So what wait, wait, wait, wait, wait wait, Now you're

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Speaker 1: know what.

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Speaker 2: That application asks a lot of questions and then you

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Speaker 2: have to turn it over to government officials, and quite frankly.

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Speaker 3: What do you have to hide?

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Speaker 2: I don't have anything to hide, but I'm not going

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Speaker 4: But what do you think they know enough about me? WHOA, Okay,

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Speaker 4: I pay them money. That's where the agreement ends.

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Speaker 3: Let's back this up here for a second.

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Speaker 1: So so there are three openings on the iu RC,

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Speaker 1: which is the Indiana Utility Regulatory Commission Board, which does

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Speaker 1: a variety of things related utilities, but the one that

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Speaker 1: affects most of us is they set utility rates or

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Speaker 1: prove utility increases, rate increases, et cetera. The group's gotten

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Speaker 1: a lot of attention. Brawn is valuing to remake the

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Speaker 1: board and there's an application process. Now we found out

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Speaker 1: through our pal Jim Merrit, who is on this nominating committee.

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Speaker 1: So the way this works is there's a group of people.

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Speaker 1: They then nominate names to the governor. The governor decides

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Speaker 1: whether he wants these names or not. Go back, get

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Speaker 1: me more whatever, he's not obliged to take the recommendation.

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Speaker 1: So we found out just in passing through Merit that

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Speaker 1: it pays like one hundred fifty thousand dollars a year

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Speaker 1: to be on this board. So I said, well, you

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Speaker 1: totally he should apply for this because Merret likes you.

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Speaker 3: You don't like me, but he likes you.

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Speaker 4: He likes you, and he calls you Robert.

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Speaker 3: You should totally. Well, I have no chot.

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Speaker 1: I think you could slip through the cracks, And I

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Speaker 1: I'm totally gonna apply. I said it'd be great for

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Speaker 1: the allegation yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Oh it's oh, that's right. It was the fourteenth, wasn't it.

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Speaker 3: You screwed this show.

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Speaker 4: I did not.

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Speaker 3: You made a commitment dour audience and then you didn't

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Speaker 4: I really didn't want the job, actually, but.

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Speaker 3: Why did you say you would have fought the application

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Speaker 3: had Kevin do it?

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Speaker 4: Really?

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Speaker 2: You think Kevin's going to fill out that fifteen page application.

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Speaker 1: Kevin, do you have anything to hide or are you

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Speaker 4: No? I think I'm good.

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Speaker 1: Are you wanted for felonious activities in any of the

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Speaker 1: He's gonna what were you so worried about revealing?

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Speaker 3: I wasn't worried.

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Speaker 4: About revealing anything. I'm just not going to offer them

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Speaker 4: more information than they already have. What but when you know,

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Speaker 4: you know, if Jim Merrett.

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Speaker 2: Would have said, hey, Casey, it'd be great for this,

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Speaker 2: it's going to get on bronze desk, and he's gonna

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Speaker 1: Point of all of it, to waste their time, it'll

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Speaker 1: trying to be facetious, like what info did you not

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Speaker 1: want them to have? Are you wanted in any of

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Speaker 4: As far as you know?

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Speaker 3: Are you do? You have a large life sized poster

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Speaker 4: The secrets, Robert?

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Speaker 3: Are you?

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Speaker 4: Now? Here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: I think what we're really getting down to the bottom

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Speaker 4: Own show that you're trying to give me to a

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Speaker 3: I see what you're doing now, look, I was, I'm

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Speaker 4: It's okay, but they gave him a hard time about it.

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Speaker 1: I just told him to lie because what they do

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Speaker 4: I think there is a box that you have to check.

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Speaker 4: Did you hear?

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Speaker 2: Though? Jim Merritt said that they've had more people apply

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Speaker 1: You why because of our show. People found out that

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Speaker 1: As usual, we do all the community good and then

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Speaker 3: Off of us.

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Speaker 2: So Blackrock still still reportedly close to acquiring AES for

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Speaker 4: Speaking of utilities, and.

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Speaker 3: Now the governor's aware.

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Speaker 1: Now you may remember last week if you missed our

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when he was on with Hammer and Night, he

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Speaker 3: I mean like that that was Was that not the

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Speaker 1: He claimed it had no idea the Vice President was

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Speaker 3: Didn't know about this Blackrock AES thing that Like, I

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Speaker 4: That's concerning.

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Speaker 1: It's very concerning that the governor appeared to have either

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Speaker 4: I think he was just being a little koy about JD. Vance.

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Speaker 2: He's just waiting for leadership to come to him and say, hey,

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Speaker 2: we got the votes.

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Speaker 4: Call a specialty.

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Speaker 1: But what good was saying I didn't know Vance was coming?

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Speaker 1: What how does that help him with that?

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Speaker 2: But the AES thing and Blackrock not knowing that, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: And it's good to see.

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Speaker 1: For the past week he's done absolutely nothing with that

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Speaker 3: Because it appears it's still going forward.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, exactly, and a lot of people are very

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, I'm answering the questions for you in

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. That's why black Rock exists to make money. They

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Speaker 2: So the i u RC's rate hike discussion, it's expected

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Speaker 4: How, being completely.

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Speaker 3: Serious, help me understand how huh higher? How?

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Speaker 1: I mean they already have the people to trim the trees.

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Speaker 2: Nope, they were justifying their request for a rate increase

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Speaker 1: You know what they sound like. Remember in the scene

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Speaker 4: We need more infrastructure. Sure it's not them.

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Speaker 2: So if they get the rate increase like they're requesting,

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Speaker 4: By twenty dollars a month.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, typical typical household on my bill, No, not yours.

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Speaker 4: You sit in the dark.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't have a ES, so it's not my problem.

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Speaker 1: It's more of a you think, yes, I'm fighting for

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Speaker 4: That is a me thing.

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Speaker 2: Did you see what's going on in Carmel by the way,

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Speaker 2: Oh no, the mayor suf InCom she has proposed moving

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Speaker 1: Whit wait wait wait, so so the meetings the meetings

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Speaker 1: But she's saying eh, she's.

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Speaker 2: Saying that if they hold the meetings during regular business hours,

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Speaker 2: it could save the city about two hundred thousand dollars annually.

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Speaker 4: Why efficiencies and reduced overtime?

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Speaker 3: What over?

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Speaker 2: Wait?

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Speaker 4: Wait?

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Speaker 3: Wait wait? Reduced overtime? Who's getting overtime?

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Speaker 1: All those people the department has heads and stuff should be

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Speaker 2: Maybe they should budget their time knowing that these meetings

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Speaker 3: But again, I will come back and ask the police.

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Speaker 1: If you have police at the meeting, that should be

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Speaker 1: part of regular order. You got the police that are

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Speaker 2: Her position, the city's position, is that it's part of

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Speaker 3: Less people participate. That's innovation. Is that what she's doing.

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Speaker 4: To participate, Carmel's still evaluating their different options, but allegedly

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Speaker 3: You're gonna be.

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Speaker 1: And there's something going on Friday that I wish you

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Speaker 3: Well, look, Friday's a pretty important day on the show,

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Speaker 3: and you're just abandoning us to do who knows.

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Speaker 4: What, taking some time off. I'm gonna go see my kid.

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Speaker 2: Hm?

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Speaker 4: Pretty much?

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Speaker 4: Which are you adhering to that?

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Speaker 1: So just as our audience like, what is going on here?

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Speaker 4: They sent it to everybody and it could have just

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Speaker 1: Every year, Look, I love coming to work, and so

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Speaker 4: Bank till like thirty days.

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Speaker 1: So every year, the whole month basically Radiothon is my

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Speaker 3: That's always my goal. I feel like they missed me

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Speaker 4: How could I miss you?

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Speaker 1: You don't go away anyway. You foolishly took the bait

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Speaker 4: And Friday I will.

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Speaker 1: You know your husband's going to be working for Hammer tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen my daughter in two months, and I

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Speaker 2: I gotta get that that loves It's a been two months.

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Speaker 4: It's been two months.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Jim has seen her since then he's had enough.

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Speaker 4: Well, we kind of.

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Speaker 2: Like staggered our trips to see her. That way she

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Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely, she gets us more often.

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Speaker 1: Don't you at some point have to just say, look,

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Speaker 3: You're getting older now and it's a real strain on

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Speaker 4: To go I see her for the first time. Should

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Speaker 4: I get a cane and like, like, I'm inferred.

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Speaker 3: Look at the damage you've done to your poor mother.

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Speaker 4: Don't you love me? Does that work guilt anyway? I know,

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Speaker 1: Well, she made the decision to move, Like, you shouldn't

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Speaker 3: She should be coming.

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Speaker 4: By No, No, it's my choice. I want to go

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Speaker 3: So when does she come back to see you?

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Speaker 2: She'll probably come back over Christmas. When you're gone for

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Speaker 4: She's like, is rob out of the building?

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Speaker 5: True?

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Speaker 4: I can come?

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Speaker 1: He gone anyway? Friday since she'll be gone. We do

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Speaker 3: Yeah uh. And I got to kind of.

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Speaker 1: Get your since you won't be here to be a

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Speaker 3: How do how do we do this? Because this is

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Speaker 2: It's a big interview for him for sure running for

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Speaker 1: Got to win people that listen to this radio station

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Speaker 3: There is a path, we've laid it out.

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Speaker 1: Always got to do is flip one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: But he's definitely got to convince people listening to this

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Speaker 4: So here's here's what I think.

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Speaker 2: First of all, no picks, no picks, no pictures with him,

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Speaker 2: Oh no, because you're not going to go stand over

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Speaker 3: No, he's better working than me. I wouldn't do that.

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Speaker 3: I only take pictures with people that the guests and

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Speaker 2: Okay, I think you need to ask him to bring

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Speaker 3: Did he say that in one of it?

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 3: You follow him on the TikTok.

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Speaker 4: I do follow him on TikTok?

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Speaker 3: Has he returned? How does TikTok work? Is it?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 3: Do you know? Do I know I'm following you?

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Speaker 2: Or like whoever is doing his account probably can see

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Speaker 3: Do they follow you back?

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Speaker 4: As my question, I haven't looked to see if.

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Speaker 3: Is that what it's called on TikTok? For yah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you follow somebody. I don't believe they've followed me back, which.

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Speaker 3: Well then they should. That's an egregio.

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Speaker 2: He has four one thousand, one hundred and three followers

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Speaker 2: before we play that, you need to ask him why

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Speaker 3: Why are you running. I'm keeping a mental note here.

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Speaker 2: So ask him to bring in some dairy queen, ask

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Speaker 4: I think you do have to ask you bring.

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Speaker 3: In that is dairy queen opened that early? I don't

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Speaker 1: I mean he could put in his fridge the night before.

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Speaker 1: Ask him, hey, would you run that? Stick that in

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Speaker 4: I have him bring in like a chicken basket or something.

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Speaker 3: Maybe just a gift certificate to the dairy queen.

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Speaker 4: Well, that could work that bribery. He clearly has the

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Speaker 2: Thousand in like one week. But you need to ask

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Speaker 3: What do you want me to ask?

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Speaker 4: We need to know one of them, why.

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Speaker 3: Are you running? Running?

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Speaker 4: And see if he has the chops?

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Speaker 3: Because we know that's how you have to ask, do

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Speaker 4: Do you have the chops? Because we know we got

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Speaker 3: Why are you running? Do you have the chops?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Because why does Indiana need him as the secretary of state?

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Speaker 2: Now they did He did answer some questions in one

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Speaker 2: of his tiktoks, that is, and I think these are

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Speaker 2: going to be some of the questions that you would ask.

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Speaker 2: So let's see if he keeps the same story.

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Speaker 5: Hey, it's bo. I'm here at the Royan Bridge in

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Speaker 5: Wabash County. I'm gonna take a couple of questions that

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Speaker 5: I've been getting on the campaign trail. Most pressing issue

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Speaker 5: Hoosiers are facing, by far, the most pressing issue that

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Speaker 5: I've been hearing getting around our state.

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Speaker 3: Is the cost of living.

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Speaker 5: The cost of healthcare is way too high, Utility bills

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Speaker 5: are through the roof, and the cost of housing is

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Speaker 5: way too high. To leaders in our state from both

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Speaker 5: parties need to work together to do everything they can

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Speaker 5: to bring those costs down. First thing you'll do as

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Speaker 5: Secretary of State. The first thing I will do as

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Speaker 5: your Secretary of State is conducting independent Bondit of that

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Speaker 5: office is spending.

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Speaker 3: It's out of control.

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Speaker 5: The amount of waste front abuse that has happened in

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Speaker 5: that office.

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Speaker 3: We're going to clean up on day one.

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Speaker 5: One new pulse you'd look to see in Indiana. It

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Speaker 5: is time in Indiana we had a citizen led statewide

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Speaker 5: ballot referendum. Indiana ranks fiftieth bottom of the country in

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Speaker 5: voter participation.

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Speaker 3: That's a shame.

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Speaker 5: Imagine the amount of energy and momentum that we could

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Speaker 5: build in our state if we let the people decide

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Speaker 5: the big issues of the day. People would get off

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Speaker 5: their couch and they'd go to the polling place if

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Speaker 5: they knew that they had a.

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Speaker 3: Real say in our government. Favorite sports memory.

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Speaker 5: Oh jeez, favorite sports memory probably seven Colt super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: So I think the only one that he really has

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Speaker 4: control over, though, is the audit.

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Speaker 1: Sure, well, right, I mean, let's face it, I mostly

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Speaker 1: just want him to get in there to be an agitator.

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Speaker 4: An audit would do it.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, the Republican this is the reality of

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Speaker 1: our state and you see it play out every single day.

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Speaker 1: The Republican Party in the state is a cubal and

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Speaker 1: they all know what each other are and they all

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Speaker 1: protect each other. Every person in that state House knows

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Speaker 1: what Diego Morales is. They know what he's doing. They

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Speaker 1: know how he's using the office as a twenty four

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Speaker 1: to seven campaign machine. He's using your money to do that.

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Speaker 1: Everybody knows it's not up for debate or discussion. But

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Speaker 1: because the money that is going to Diego Morales touches

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Speaker 1: so many of those politicians, they do not have the

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Speaker 1: courage to take him on and all the shenanigans that

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Speaker 1: he is pulling. And the only way one you're going

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Speaker 1: to get this revealed is to get someone from the

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Speaker 1: other party in there, like I like Dave Shelton, but you'

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Speaker 1: and I think you would do a fine job of

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Speaker 1: running that office. I think it'd be very confident. But

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Speaker 1: you think he's going to go be going there and

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Speaker 1: be reveal guy? You think he's going to be auditing Now, this.

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Speaker 2: Is the guy who said he was against redistricting and

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Speaker 2: then a week later changed his mind.

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Speaker 1: Right, you would have a much better run office and

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Speaker 1: more confident. I think he's much less shady than Diego.

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Speaker 1: But you're not going to get the big thing, which

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Speaker 1: is the reveal, which is to show the people all

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Speaker 1: the crap the Republicans are pulling. And then once people

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Speaker 1: see that, then maybe it starts to change the automatic

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Speaker 1: Republican voting pattern. Though the id C audit kind of

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Speaker 1: did that too, and I don't know if that's going

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Speaker 1: to change anything, but it would be way more fun

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Speaker 1: to have somebody in there who could do that consistently. Well,

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Speaker 1: we'll see, all right, your guy, so you want why

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Speaker 1: are you running?

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Speaker 3: And and I'll ask her like this, do you have

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Speaker 3: the chops?

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Speaker 4: Well? Is he going to be Indiana's arch manning?

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Speaker 3: Are you going to be Indiana's arch manning? Those like that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Just like that, you forceful? I gus scare him.

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Speaker 3: I want the truth? Bo, do you have to chop?

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Speaker 4: You can't handle the truth to break? It's Kennelly Casey

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Speaker 4: on ninety three w IBC.

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Speaker 3: What you said we're doing? I wouldn't pay me any attention.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to talk about this Baraco Bama video

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Speaker 2: that he put out?

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Speaker 3: I love that Barrocco? You remember him? Yeah? Why does

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Speaker 3: that name sound familiar?

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Speaker 4: That guy?

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Speaker 3: President? What is Obama doing a video on cass.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a proposition. Fifty is a thing in California.

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Speaker 2: It's about redistrict dying.

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Speaker 7: Here we go, California. The whole nation is counting on you.

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Speaker 7: Democracy is on the ballot November fourth. Republicans want to

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Speaker 7: steal enough seats in Congress to rig the next election

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Speaker 7: and wield unchecked power for two more years. The Prop

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Speaker 7: fifty you can stop Republicans in their tracks. Prop fifty

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Speaker 7: puts our elections back on a level plane, preserves independent

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Speaker 7: redistricting over the long term, and lets the people decide

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Speaker 7: for Turn your ballot today, vote yes on fifty.

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Speaker 3: Does Obaba have any juice anymore?

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Speaker 4: Would people listen to him?

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, we played that clip yesterday of him

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Speaker 1: on that WTF podcast, and then I actually heard I

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Speaker 1: think it was Tony Kennett last night on his shows

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Speaker 1: out and about. You know what my daughter did yesterday? No,

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Speaker 1: she distracted her poor grandmother. She made a mess. I

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Speaker 1: think she did this deliberately. This is where the little

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Speaker 1: tyrant thing comes in. The kid like this kid is smart. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she distracts her grandmother, makes a mess. Grandma's picking up

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Speaker 1: the mess, and then she proceeds to find the one

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Speaker 1: crown that is still hidden in her room, and she

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Speaker 1: takes it and turns into Picasso all over the walls.

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Speaker 1: This is like in a minute's worth a time. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's orange right, Oh, it's just it's a disaster.

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Speaker 1: So I had to go to the store and get

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Speaker 1: those white oh you know what.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about, magic eraser.

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Speaker 1: Thank you and that was when I started watching the

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Speaker 1: John Candy documentary because I was like, Okay, I gotta

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Speaker 1: clean this thing.

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Speaker 4: I thought you were exaggerating earlier, but yeah, drawing on

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Speaker 4: the wall.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah it was. It was.

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Speaker 1: It was a very time because of me. And then

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Speaker 1: my favorite part is my sweet wife, who I love

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Speaker 1: so much. She's sitting there the whole time. I'm sweeping,

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Speaker 1: Like I've told her, I said, man, this house is

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Speaker 1: just a dumpster fire.

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Speaker 3: I gotta get it picked up.

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Speaker 1: And she sees me sweeping, and then she sees me

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Speaker 1: using the like I'm clearly like she knows what I'm doing.

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Speaker 1: She's right in front of me. And then as I

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Speaker 1: get done and she can clearly see I have now

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Speaker 1: cleaned all the walls, she goes, did you need any help?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, an hour ago. Thanks.

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Speaker 4: She waits till you're almost done.

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Speaker 1: Oh you're working on something anyway. I don't even know

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Speaker 1: why I got off on that. While were we talking

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Speaker 1: about Obama?

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Speaker 4: How did that remind you of your daughter comes in

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Speaker 4: at the last minute?

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Speaker 1: Uh, I think I just wanted to bitch about that.

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Speaker 1: I don't I think that was I don't even know

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Speaker 1: exactly why I got off on that, but uh, I'm

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Speaker 1: glad for all here to help you point quite being

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Speaker 1: Uh we played this clip. Oh I was, I know

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Speaker 1: why that's heard Kennett talking about it. He played this,

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Speaker 1: He was talking about this clip on on the on

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Speaker 1: the uh, the Tony Kennett cast, And Obama looks so

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Speaker 1: old in this clip, and he looks so depressed and

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Speaker 1: like his legs are crossed and his arms are crossed.

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Speaker 3: And so my question is, does Obama still does he

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Speaker 3: used to be He used to be able to bark

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Speaker 3: and people would would move on command. Does anybody now

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Speaker 3: do what he says?

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Speaker 2: Possibly in California, But I think when he was ushering

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden off stage at that one rally they had it.

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Speaker 4: Wasn't George Clooney there or something.

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Speaker 2: I think that's when people saw, really saw that he's

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Speaker 2: not being fourthright with everything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I don't look with this. The reality is

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Speaker 1: everybody screwing their constituents. Texas screwing their constituents, California screwing

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Speaker 1: their constituents, Missouri screwing their constituents, North Carolina about to

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Speaker 1: screw their constituents, Indiana maybe screwing their constituents.

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Speaker 3: All of these people are rotten.

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Speaker 1: However, if we're going to go to who started it,

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Speaker 1: if we're going to you know, act like we're ten

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Speaker 1: years old again, Texas started it. California is simply responding to.

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Speaker 4: Texas, correct, and they would be a wash because if

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Speaker 4: Texas picks up five Republican seats in California picks up

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Speaker 4: five Democrat seats, were even right.

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Speaker 1: So, however, the hypocrisy's but on full display. Where when

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Speaker 1: Schwartzeneor was governor, California forms this election commission by will

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Speaker 1: of the voters, and their job is to draw these maps,

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Speaker 1: and by all accounts, everybody thought they operated pretty well

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Speaker 1: in the state of California. I'm not saying we don't

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Speaker 1: look at them and go ooh, that's kind of squirrely,

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Speaker 1: but the people who live there seem pretty okay with

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Speaker 1: these maps, and they came by. I wish Carl was here,

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Speaker 1: Carl Tony's producer out on paternity leave, and he could

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Speaker 1: speak more eloquently to this because he lived in California

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Speaker 1: for so many years. But now they're like, they're doing

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Speaker 1: the same thing Indiana's doing.

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Speaker 3: Well. Yeah, our maps were quote unquote fair.

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Speaker 1: We liked them, but now we got to rig them

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Speaker 1: a little further because well, Texas did something, Well, how

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Speaker 1: does that benefit anyone in California.

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Speaker 2: In California the maps, they have California Citizens Redistricting Commission,

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Speaker 2: which drew.

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Speaker 4: The maps in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: They did it, I believe in twenty thirteen and possibly

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Speaker 2: in eight as well, and they're not supposed to be

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Speaker 2: redone until twenty thirty.

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Speaker 1: Elections should not be partisan exercises in terms of how

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Speaker 1: the government administers them. The job is to draw the

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Speaker 1: maps properly, fairly, in a just and right fashion for

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Speaker 1: the state in which you live, taking out the political ramifications,

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Speaker 1: and then let the politicians go win the elections based

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Speaker 1: on their governance. All these states are doing are bailing

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Speaker 1: out bad governance. All these states are doing is saying

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Speaker 1: we can't win, whether it's California or what's being proposed

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Speaker 1: here in Indiana, different parties, same thing, we can't win

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Speaker 1: based on our governance. So instead we're going to just

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Speaker 1: rig the thing in our favor so that we don't

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Speaker 1: get held to account and.

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Speaker 3: In fact we get rewarded for the bad governance.

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Speaker 2: And if all of these states continue on with the

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Speaker 2: redistricting like Texas and Missouri, Florida, potentially Ohio here in

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Speaker 2: Indiana and the Democrat or the blue leaning states do it.

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Speaker 2: The Democrats could potentially lose up to nineteen seats.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and.

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Speaker 1: Is that what you want? My question to you, if

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Speaker 1: you're driving down the road right now, is what have

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Speaker 1: the Republicans done for you that you say my life

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Speaker 1: will be better? They control everything right now. Let's say

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Speaker 1: they get nineteen seats. They already have control of the government.

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Speaker 1: They can do anything they want to do right now.

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Speaker 1: What's going on in Washington will be just as broken

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Speaker 1: with nineteen more Republicans in the House of Representatives. There's

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Speaker 1: not one thing that's going to change because Washington itself

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Speaker 1: is broken, the federal government is broken. Look, this is

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Speaker 1: not even a shutdown. Is it even a conversation about

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Speaker 1: the House of Representatives. They passed their budget weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't matter if there were nineteen more Republicans. Unless

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Speaker 1: those nineteen Republicans are going to be on some reconnaissance

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Speaker 1: mission where they're going to kidnap Democrats in the Senate.

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Speaker 3: You're still gonna have the same problems.

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Speaker 1: So I don't see any sort of justification to rig

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Speaker 1: our maps further to reward bad Republicans. Now, of course

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Speaker 1: they're I guess Republicans in good standing because you can

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Speaker 1: not vote and adhere to the party platform.

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Speaker 3: And that's fine.

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Speaker 1: But then if you point that out to people and go, hey,

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Speaker 1: we should probably find somebody who will be more Republican

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Speaker 1: than the Republican, then you're not a Republican good standing.

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Speaker 1: But why why would I been over backwards for these people?

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Speaker 4: If you vote present, does that keep you in good standing?

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Speaker 4: It must A duel's going to join us next.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to get into some more of you know,

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Speaker 1: what's going on down to two hundred West Washington. What's

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Speaker 1: the latest scuttle butt on this redistricting? What is abdul

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Speaker 1: hearing about? What could be next?

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Speaker 4: You're listening to Kendall and Casey on ninety three WYBC.

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Speaker 3: Well any time at all, and I agree on some things.

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Speaker 6: You know, what's best bad news, bad news. But I'll

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Speaker 6: tell you what in this redistricting it is. It's getting

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Speaker 6: ridiculous out there. Kenll mc caasey, show m. Rob Casey's here.

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Speaker 6: He's an author, he's a broadcaster, provocateur of DULA keep

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Speaker 6: Shabba's owner operator of Indie politics dot org.

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Speaker 8: Hello, hello, my friend.

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Speaker 1: So we obviously spent a whole bunch of time on

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Speaker 1: this yesterday today. The polling coming out on redistricting. Two polls,

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Speaker 1: in fact, coming out yesterday, one from three D Strategic Research,

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Speaker 1: one from north Star Opinion Research, both of them republican

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Speaker 1: sort of based polls, not not super left polls, and

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Speaker 1: both of them showing the same thing, the public overwhelmingly

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Speaker 1: against redistricting.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 8: Imagine that someone had to pull to find out common sense,

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Speaker 8: you know. No, as someone who's pulled before several times,

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Speaker 8: we got we're gonna be pulling up probably uh December January.

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Speaker 8: The poll numbers would not surprised me. I have not

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Speaker 8: heard from anybody with an ounce of common sense that

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Speaker 8: this is a good idea and this is going to

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Speaker 8: end well, the Speaker doesn't want it. It's the President

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Speaker 8: doesn't want it. Most of the rank and file don't

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Speaker 8: want it. The public definitely doesn't want it, and the

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Speaker 8: government kind of competition to rock in a hard place.

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Speaker 8: People are like, hey, I do this to make the

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Speaker 8: Trump people happy, but the lawmakers don't want it. So

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Speaker 8: the poland does not surprise me at all.

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Speaker 1: So this is what is perplexing to me. And we

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Speaker 1: got into this little bit with Jim Merritt earlier, we

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Speaker 1: got into sun State House happenings. You're not in a

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Speaker 1: single poll anybody's been able to produce to say, look

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Speaker 1: at how the public supports redistricting. They all sort of

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Speaker 1: match these numbers in which, in the case of the

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Speaker 1: Three D research, sixty nine percent of the voters disagreed

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Speaker 1: with redistricting, twenty one supported. The North Star had opposition

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Speaker 1: to redistricting at fifty three percent.

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Speaker 3: They had a low level of support too.

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Speaker 1: And so if no no one can point to anybody

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Speaker 1: who wants it, there's not a single lawmaker who's run

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Speaker 1: out going look at this, you know, this trove of

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Speaker 1: emails and phone calls that I've been able to produce

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Speaker 1: of my people that are behind it, even the lawmakers

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Speaker 1: who are super behind it.

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Speaker 3: Why do they keep dragging this out?

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Speaker 1: Because every day they drag it out, it just gets

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Speaker 1: worse for them.

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Speaker 8: My theory is it's like watching a really bad film

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Speaker 8: and they're kind of hoping, maybe it'll get better at

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Speaker 8: this point, and maybe it'll get better at this point,

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Speaker 8: but at the end day, it's really police Academy six,

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Speaker 8: it's just it just sucked all the although what you

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Speaker 8: loved about the first place Academy two and three, all

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Speaker 8: the cast members are gone.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, what the hell am I watching here? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So I can't remember you. It was you or Jim

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Speaker 3: who said this on Stadu's Happenings. But it's right.

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Speaker 1: If they were gonna do it, which Braun appears dead

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Speaker 1: set on doing this, jamming the square peg into the

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Speaker 1: round hole, should have just done it back in July,

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Speaker 1: just said, okay, here we go session boom, vote up, down, whatever,

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Speaker 1: then we're done with it. But by dragging it out,

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Speaker 1: you keep getting these polls that come out. It shows

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Speaker 1: they're going against the will of the people. The people

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Speaker 1: don't want it.

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Speaker 3: They would have been way better off if they're doing

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Speaker 3: it no matter what, just doing it, being done with it.

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Speaker 8: And also the other and here's here's the other part

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Speaker 8: to keep in mind. It's not so much the politics redistricting,

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Speaker 8: it's the practical applications of redistricting. We've got candidates, we've

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Speaker 8: got a file, you've got filing deadlines in the first district.

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Speaker 8: Now am i am I in the second district, Where

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Speaker 8: where am I? What am I doing here? And and

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Speaker 8: and as Jim mentioned during State House happenings, it's like mercury.

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Speaker 8: It doesn't go away. You just basically rearrange the deck

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Speaker 8: chairs on the Titanic. Okay, let's say we make the

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Speaker 8: first district more Republican. That means I have to make

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Speaker 8: the second district less Republican and the fourth district less Republican,

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Speaker 8: and then that it moves. It's like it's like the

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Speaker 8: old Tetris game. Yeah, you basically try to put the

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Speaker 8: square PAGs in round holes. And on top of that,

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Speaker 8: not only have you messed those lines up, now you've

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Speaker 8: pissed off everybody because now you've got people going to

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Speaker 8: come out and drove sure, just to simply express the displeasure.

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Speaker 8: Because people are retired of politicians anyway, and Republicans are

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Speaker 8: in charge. Republicans have a super joints and the only

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Speaker 8: place to go for Republicans actually down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's where.

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Speaker 1: It's like, you're willing to do it for this, but

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Speaker 1: not the things that actually are affecting people's lives.

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Speaker 3: And I think people see that.

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Speaker 1: I think people say, hey, look, you totally blew it

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Speaker 1: on property taxes. Everyone hates it. How many times do

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Speaker 1: Rob Kendall and Jesse Brown socialist on the Indie City

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Speaker 1: County Council agree on something. How many times do Rob

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Speaker 1: and the public education system agree on something? Everyone hates this.

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Speaker 1: You clearly blew it to some extent. They have not

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Speaker 1: everybody other than Braun in the General Assembly, as many

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Speaker 1: people in the General symboly have acknowledged they blew it.

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Speaker 1: But you're not lifting a finger to help fix that.

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Speaker 1: But you will not stop on this redistricting thing, which

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Speaker 1: doesn't make anybody's life better, just makes Donald Trump happy.

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Speaker 8: And by the way, you can call a special session,

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Speaker 8: but you get but the governor's not control the agenda.

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Speaker 8: Lawmakers control. Yeah, they can pretty much do whatever they

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Speaker 8: want while they're here, or they come in for an hour. Okay,

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Speaker 8: that's it, we're here. Everybody go home. Or here's another

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Speaker 8: fun part. They can do it virtually.

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Speaker 3: What they don't even show.

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Speaker 8: Well, remember during COVID, we had virtual we had virtual

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Speaker 8: no committee here in the hold on you yards. I

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Speaker 8: would not be surprised if somebody gets to the bug

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Speaker 8: in their head. Okay, we'll be here, we'll be here

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Speaker 8: via zoom. That way, no one has to drive. We

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Speaker 8: can say the taxpayers money for.

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Speaker 1: Dea Abduel is our guest. Okay, so if you had

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Speaker 1: to put money on it. I think you and Merit

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Speaker 1: disagree on this, but I want to get you both

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Speaker 1: on the record. You think they will or will not

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Speaker 1: call a special session? And if they do, will it pass?

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Speaker 8: I think people will probably call a special session, but

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Speaker 8: I uh ah, here's the thing. I here, here you go. Okay,

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Speaker 8: mister attorney, Okay, here we go. They will call a

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Speaker 8: special session if they think it can pass.

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Speaker 1: I'm asking you, do you think they're going to call

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Speaker 1: a special session?

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Speaker 3: And will it pass?

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Speaker 8: If they argue? If they call a special session, ozar

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Speaker 8: will pass. If they don't, then that means we know

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Speaker 8: that no votes aren't there.

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Speaker 3: Do you think they're going to do it or not?

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Speaker 3: Yes or no? Maybe? Very good? That was That was

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Speaker 3: a hell of a tank there at Duel. Hell of

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Speaker 3: a tank. I was going to be back yes And

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Speaker 3: with that.

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Speaker 1: Find him Duel and all his all he takes at

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Speaker 1: indypolitics dot org.

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Speaker 3: That is gonna do it for us today. Thank you

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Speaker 3: so much to Casey.

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Speaker 1: Great job as always, Kevin and most mortally thank you

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Speaker 1: to you, the listener. Without you, there is no US

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Speaker 1: Kennell and Casey Show ninety three, w IBC,