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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about Donald Trump's polling and the recent polling.

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Speaker 1: This is coming from the Washington Post and ABC News,

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Speaker 1: so take that for what it's worth, and it says

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Speaker 1: that more Americans are blaming him and the GOP for

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Speaker 1: the shutdown.

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Speaker 2: It's my dad and I we're talking about this yesterday

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Speaker 2: that it is interesting that the Republicans are getting blamed

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Speaker 2: for simply voting to open the government, Like, how could

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Speaker 2: you get blamed for vote? It shows how unengaged the

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Speaker 2: public largely is and they can be spun into about

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Speaker 2: anything because if you all the Republicans did was vote

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Speaker 2: to keep the government open in the House, and the

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Speaker 2: Republican senators have clearly said, which I think is wrong.

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Speaker 2: I think they should not be voting to keep the

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Speaker 2: government open given the current budget. But they've said, we're

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Speaker 2: more than willing to continue to let the status quot

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Speaker 2: destroy this country. The Republican Party's official position is we're

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Speaker 2: more than willing to let the status quo continue to

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Speaker 2: destroy this country. The Democrats are the ones saying no,

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Speaker 2: and yet Republicans are the ones getting the bulleted for it.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's because you have people saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: You've got Democrats out there that are saying, oh, you

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Speaker 1: know what, they won't pass.

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Speaker 2: This, But doesn't it show you that there is just

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Speaker 2: a huge portion of this country that has no critical

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Speaker 2: thinking skills whatsoever. Oh, someone told me it, so it

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Speaker 2: must be true. And I'm not going to do the

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Speaker 2: least bit of research, which, again I totally disagree with

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Speaker 2: the Republicans passing you continuing to fund fully fund Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden's government. I would vote no like Rand Paul has

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Speaker 2: or Thomas Massey has, But the reality is they have

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Speaker 2: voted to keep Joe Biden's government open and moving at

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Speaker 2: a freight train type of speed. But like, there's a

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Speaker 2: huge portion of our populace that can't even think it

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Speaker 2: through or won't take the time to think it through

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Speaker 2: or And so how could the Democrats not be getting

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Speaker 2: the blame when they're the ones who are voting no

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Speaker 2: over and over and over again.

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Speaker 1: I look to a Facebook friend of mine, very outspoken,

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Speaker 1: very Democrat. Oh, and she posts things all the time,

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Speaker 1: and I'm just like scrolling through her feed right now,

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Speaker 1: and this is one of the latest. This is from

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Speaker 1: a day ago. No food for you until the Democrats

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Speaker 1: let us take away your health care house Republicans. So

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Speaker 1: when you see messages like.

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Speaker 2: That, well, and how would you even talk that? Have

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Speaker 2: you ever tried to engage that person?

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Speaker 1: Not in quite a while.

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Speaker 2: I would like I would love.

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Speaker 1: You.

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Speaker 2: Know, I've often told you because sometimes you will see

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Speaker 2: things and you will try to like go why why

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Speaker 2: why why? And I will say, Casey, would you go

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Speaker 2: to the county home and fight with the people there?

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Speaker 2: And it's the equivalent sometimes on social media going to

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Speaker 2: the county home and trying to fight with people. But

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Speaker 2: I would love to sit down to that person and

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Speaker 2: to ask her, like, where where did you learn this?

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Speaker 2: Like what is your actual other than screaming on Twitter

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Speaker 2: or Facebook or whatever. Walk me through why you think

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Speaker 2: this is going on and what's happening, and then the

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Speaker 2: follow up question would be okay. So unless you give

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Speaker 2: and the follow up question to these people who believe

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Speaker 2: the Republicans are to blame for shutting down the government,

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Speaker 2: the Republicans are to blame for bad government, They're certainly

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Speaker 2: not to blame for shutting down the government. They're blamed

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Speaker 2: to blame for bad, dishonest, deceptive, rotten government, but they're

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Speaker 2: certainly for keeping that government open. You would love to

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Speaker 2: ask the people who think the Republicans are to blame. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so in your world, unless the Republicans give Democrats who

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Speaker 2: have not won the election everything they want, then the

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Speaker 2: Republicans are to blame. Well the answer is no, then

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Speaker 2: then what are they allowed to not give the Democrats?

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Speaker 2: Like to see? None just none of it makes any

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Speaker 2: None of it makes any sense, and it is maddening.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is somebody who's picked their side, right, and

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Speaker 1: they're just gonna say that message.

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Speaker 2: And that's what it is, its sides and you're seeing this.

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Speaker 1: You see it.

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Speaker 2: Don't are our quote unquote our I don't have a

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Speaker 2: team anymore. I've been booted off the team, Casey. But

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Speaker 2: you see this in the conservative corners where all these people,

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Speaker 2: this little group of people who I used to think

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Speaker 2: we're niven being manipulated. Now I don't think they're naiven

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Speaker 2: or being manipulated. I think they go willingly and know

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Speaker 2: exactly what they're doing. Who were many of them were

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Speaker 2: very upset when Braun screwed everybody on property taxes, didn't

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Speaker 2: follow it through, and then he invites them to the

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Speaker 2: governor's mansion and I guess he meets with them once

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Speaker 2: a month.

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Speaker 1: M hm, are they making progress?

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Speaker 2: Well, have you heard anything from Braun? Org day is

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Speaker 2: the eighteenth casey, that's when any big thing would be

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Speaker 2: laid out because and it's a short session by the way,

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Speaker 2: so they only have two months two and a half

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Speaker 2: months to get it done. Anything that would be big

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Speaker 2: would have to be laid out. Then for the most part,

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Speaker 2: have you anything big from Braun? I don't know. I believe.

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Speaker 1: Weren't we told there was an ace up asleep?

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Speaker 2: Well have you seen the ace? I have not? Township government?

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Speaker 1: Are they making progress? Is?

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Speaker 2: What is the ace? But my point is these people

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Speaker 2: go and now they just give these glowing reviews of

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Speaker 2: brawn when they go, and then you realize, no, you're

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Speaker 2: just a team person and you're doing the same thing

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Speaker 2: that that woman is doing. But on the other side,

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Speaker 2: in which no matter how many times you get screwed

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Speaker 2: over our mont however illogical it is, no matter what

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Speaker 2: they do to you, you just want to be a

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Speaker 2: part of the It's like part of the action, right,

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Speaker 2: I'm invited, I know to the thing. Of course, I'm

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Speaker 2: not getting anything done because of this. This guy's an

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Speaker 2: habitual liar.

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Speaker 1: I know, so they can turn around all their friends

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Speaker 1: and say, hey, look at me, I was at the

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Speaker 1: governor's man.

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Speaker 2: Being go and it's but it's that way on both sides, right,

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Speaker 2: And this is why we never got I was at

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Speaker 2: the King's rally, right.

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Speaker 1: It's that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: We never gonna get aything done because people go to

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Speaker 2: their corners. They're so way to their corners they can't

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Speaker 2: come out of the corners, and we can't have an

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Speaker 2: honest conversation in the quote unquote middle about hey, how

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Speaker 2: big does the government need to be? What is actually

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Speaker 2: working for us, what is actually effective, who's being a

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Speaker 2: good steward of our dollars, who is being effective with

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Speaker 2: our money? We can't even have that conversation because everybody's

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Speaker 2: just the other side's the day level. The other side's

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Speaker 2: the worst. The country's going to end if so and

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Speaker 2: so gets in charge, and we just have just irrational

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Speaker 2: screaming sessions on social media when it doesn't need to

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Speaker 2: be that way.

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Speaker 1: According to this poll, seventy five percent of Americans say

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Speaker 1: they're concerned about the shutdown. Twenty five percent say they

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Speaker 1: are not