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Speaker 1: Live from vall Hartbeiner and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: There are updates of what's happening in Iran, but I

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Speaker 2: think there's a better question to be asked, and it

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Speaker 2: has nothing to do with the war. It has everything

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Speaker 2: to do with women. A weird offshoot story that has

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Speaker 2: been sticking in my head ever since I shared the

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Speaker 2: story of these Iranian women. A soccer team that was

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Speaker 2: playing in a competition, a tournament in Australia, and they

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Speaker 2: got knocked out of the tournament and they were afraid

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Speaker 2: to go back home.

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Speaker 3: One of the reasons they were afraid to go.

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Speaker 2: Back home was because they did not sing the Iranian anthem.

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Speaker 2: They were like, nah, no, thanks, We're not going to

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Speaker 2: do this. You have had the Iranian people being slaughtered

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Speaker 2: by the Iranian regime since certainly nineteen seventy nine, women

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Speaker 2: treated horrifically for the past forty seven years, life not

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Speaker 2: being anywhere near as good as it was before the Ayatola.

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Speaker 2: You have thirty thousand plus protesters that were killed in

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Speaker 2: just the last few months.

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Speaker 3: You have women who will not sing the national anthem.

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Speaker 2: Facing punishments, including possibly death, denunciation from Iranian state media,

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Speaker 2: even though they sang the song afterwards, even though they

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Speaker 2: didn't want to and are afraid to go back home.

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Speaker 2: Someone went back home because they feared what would happened

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Speaker 2: to their families. We have people in America who gladly

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Speaker 2: hate America while they're at the Olympics and then come

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Speaker 2: home without anything happening to them other than someone saying

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Speaker 2: something not nice on social media. They and they fall

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Speaker 2: down and they cry and say, why is this happening

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Speaker 2: to me?

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Speaker 3: These women like get killed.

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Speaker 2: Or worse, their families harmed, and this story has been

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Speaker 2: sticking with me. This is an ugly story, and why

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Speaker 2: is it an ugly story? Well, the New York Post

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Speaker 2: beat me to the punch. Why isn't motormouth Megan Rapino

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Speaker 2: using her megaphone for a ram's female soccer team.

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Speaker 3: Megan Repino is was the member of the US women's.

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Speaker 2: Team who was taking a knee for social justice, thinking

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Speaker 2: she was Colin Kaepernick and equal pay all the nonsense things,

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Speaker 2: and she believes that men can call themselves women and

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Speaker 2: play on the women's soccer team.

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Speaker 3: The real conversation.

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Speaker 2: Here is where are the feminists and why do they

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Speaker 2: hate women so damn much. I don't want to hear

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Speaker 2: it from women's groups that claim to stand up for women.

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Speaker 3: You don't stand up for anything.

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Speaker 2: You don't stand up for anything, accounts anything that matters.

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Speaker 3: You're an un serious group of people.

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Speaker 2: I could point to local stories where I live, I

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Speaker 2: can point to national stories where things happen.

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Speaker 3: There is a story out of.

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Speaker 2: One of these organizations, Queers for Palestine.

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Speaker 3: Oh holy hell, do you.

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Speaker 2: Know how stupid you have to be to be a

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Speaker 2: part of a group called queers for Palestine?

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Speaker 3: How much you have to hate yourself and want your

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Speaker 3: own demise?

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Speaker 2: They were having these encampments and women were getting sexually

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Speaker 2: abused in the encampments. Where were any of the women

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Speaker 3: And the answer is nowhere, nowhere to be found.

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Speaker 2: The worst women out there are the feminists whose claim

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Speaker 2: to be standing up for women. They're not strong, they're

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Speaker 2: not brave, they're not decent, they're not good.

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Speaker 3: They are horrifying cowards. That's right, ladies.

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Speaker 4: This man just.

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Speaker 2: Man's plained how you're a coward. I'm gonna do it again.

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Speaker 2: I'll do it right in front of you. Pick the

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Speaker 2: street corner, as I often like to say, lovely chat

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Speaker 2: about how you don't give a damn about women at all.

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Speaker 2: You're all talk and no action. These women can't go

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Speaker 2: back to Iran. At least five have stayed in Australia,

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Speaker 2: and Albany's the Prime.

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Speaker 3: Minister needed pressure from Trump.

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Speaker 2: At least that's the way it looks to say, all right,

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Speaker 2: you can stay here. Trump offered up, hey, you can

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Speaker 2: come stay in the United States. Where were the women

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Speaker 2: to stand up for these women? How come that's not

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Speaker 3: And these people are like, oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: We can't be involved in another forever war. It's not

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Speaker 2: a forever war.

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Speaker 3: Would everyone grow.

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Speaker 2: Up and stop being ridiculous? You not being able. I

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Speaker 2: shouldn't say you. I shouldn't say you. I apologize.

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Speaker 4: It's not you, it's them.

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Speaker 2: They're not able to control their emotions, so they scream

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Speaker 2: forever war.

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Speaker 3: Like everybody else.

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Speaker 2: Has to say, Okay, I guess we'll let the terrorists

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Speaker 2: th I continue two dumb for words.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 2: And we're not done with this mission until the regime

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Speaker 2: is dead, until the money flows to terrorists. Stop and

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Speaker 2: until they can't hurt us for anything, then hand it

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Speaker 2: over to the Persians and say, go build a nation.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to start some trade with you, looking

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Speaker 2: forward to tourism in about six months when you sweep

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Speaker 2: up some of the rubble. You know what, we're not nationarybuilders,

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Speaker 2: but here are some brooms and let the Persians go

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Speaker 2: to work. They'll be fine. They built a civilization before

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Speaker 2: the Islamic regime. They can do it again. Where are

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Speaker 2: the women, Where are the ladies of the view to

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Speaker 2: stand up for the abused women all.

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Speaker 3: Over Iran and say they deserve better.

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Speaker 2: Let us end this terrorism nonsense and let these women

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Speaker 2: have a chance in a better life.

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Speaker 3: I agree with the very.

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Speaker 2: Concept that you cannot go to every nation everywhere. This

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Speaker 2: was a center round Paul point. I agree with this point.

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Speaker 2: You can't go to every nation everywhere where something horrible

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Speaker 2: is happening to a certain group of people and make

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Speaker 2: their lives better.

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Speaker 3: It can't be done.

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Speaker 2: That's adventurism, and of course it is a financial impossibility,

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Speaker 2: a logistical impossibility. There are bad actors the world over,

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Speaker 2: but the bad actors who also want to terrorize us,

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Speaker 2: harm us and kill us and have Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Let's start with them first. At least let's handle that.

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Speaker 2: And if we can make life better for the women

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Speaker 2: and the men and the children, I say, great, that's excellent.

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Speaker 2: Mega Repino is nowhere to be heard. Mega Repino really

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Speaker 2: thought she was being some kind of strong woman by.

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Speaker 3: Saying to.

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Speaker 2: Women, men can claim to be women, and it's okay

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Speaker 2: if you lose your spot on the team, because these

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Speaker 2: men deserve it. It's not a feminist. That's a radical.

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Speaker 2: That is a broken radical, who should not be listened to,

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Speaker 2: who should be proactively dismissed. She should not be put

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Speaker 2: on a pedestal, who should not be raised up. That

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Speaker 2: is the kind of woman you're supposed to say to

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Speaker 2: your daughters. Don't be like her.

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Speaker 3: She hates you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, little darlin. She Oh that's why I would

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Speaker 2: call my daughter little darlin.

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Speaker 3: Why? Because I can.

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Speaker 2: That woman hates you, doesn't think that you should be

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Speaker 2: on an even playing field, and doesn't think that if

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Speaker 2: you're being oppressed, she, who is not oppressed by any stretch,

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Speaker 2: should be supportive. She doesn't believe in being supportive. I,

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Speaker 2: for one, don't think you should support her. I'd, for one,

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Speaker 2: don't think you should idolize her. There are women out

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Speaker 2: there who do real work, far better than anything Megan

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Speaker 2: Rappino ever did.

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Speaker 3: So why don't you just take down those posters?

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Speaker 2: Because she won't be there for you when you need it,

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Speaker 2: and she's proven it.

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Speaker 3: She's proven it.

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Speaker 2: Now some will say, as I see some people in

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Speaker 2: the chat room say she should shut up and dribble.

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Speaker 2: That's the expression, right, we don't want to hear from

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Speaker 2: athletes shut up and dribble. I'm not a believer in

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Speaker 2: shut up and dribble. I'm a believer and go about

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Speaker 2: saying what you're gonna say. But I'm going to notice

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Speaker 2: when you are a cowardly loser. And these feminists are

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Speaker 2: all cowards, all of them. Not standing up for the

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Speaker 2: women of Iran on this soccer team, you're not standing

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Speaker 2: up for women athletes. Let's pretend they were all named

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Speaker 2: Britney Griner. Would you be there then? What's the issue?

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Speaker 3: What's the problem?

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Speaker 2: What is the reason that these women don't get your love,

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Speaker 2: don't get your respect, don't get your care?

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Speaker 3: What is the reason that some women get all of

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Speaker 3: What is the reason.

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Speaker 2: Is it that you can't allow your humanity to go

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Speaker 2: past your politics. If you stand up for the women

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Speaker 2: in Iran, if you stand up for these women, you

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Speaker 2: might actually be seen as being on the side of

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Speaker 2: Trump or Republicans or those who want this regime ended

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Speaker 2: so the United States can live a safer, better life.

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Speaker 2: And you can't have that. Oh gosh, you can't have that.

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Speaker 2: Is that it is that the reason your politic so

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Speaker 2: overwhelm you, so control you, so consume you, Megan Repino, feminists,

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Speaker 2: that you can't even be human and recognize the horror

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Speaker 2: that these women live in. You don't live in horror,

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Speaker 2: Megan Repino, You don't live in horror. You're a gay

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Speaker 2: woman in the United States of America, and you are

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Speaker 3: And you've made cash.

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Speaker 2: No one is trying to throw you off a building,

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Speaker 2: and no one, through their own religious code, feel the

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Speaker 2: parentheses around religious the quotes, because it's a political system,

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Speaker 2: not a religion, thinks that because of your transgression you

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Speaker 2: should be raped, inn or killed. You're not oppressed. The

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Speaker 2: hell's wrong with you? Who told you you're oppressed? Will

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Speaker 2: you tell other people you're oppressed? And that's how you

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Speaker 2: build reputation capital. Well, allow me to man explain it again.

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Speaker 2: You ain't oppressed, Megan Repino. What you are is just

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Speaker 2: annoying people out there. The bigger problem is that you

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Speaker 2: don't care about women at all. I am a bigger

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Speaker 2: feminist than you because I love women, love partucier Land, and.

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Speaker 3: You understand what I mean by love. I think I

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Speaker 3: know what you mean. Oh do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Are you sure you know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: I think I'm sure I know what you mean.

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Speaker 3: Love. How you doing? Are you doing? Yeah? I care

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Speaker 3: more about women than you.

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Speaker 2: I care more about women than the so called feminists

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Speaker 2: who won't stand up for these women in Iran, who

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Speaker 2: did something more brave.

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Speaker 3: Than Meghan Rapino has ever done in her entire life.

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Speaker 2: Taking a knee was not brave, Megan taking a knee

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Speaker 2: feminists not brave. You think Nancy Pelosi taking a knee

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Speaker 2: for George Floyd was brave? What kind of nonsense?

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Speaker 3: She didn't take a knee for George Floyd.

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Speaker 2: She took a knee because that's how she thinks about

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Speaker 2: what stock She's gonna buy next based on the insider

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Speaker 2: information she got from Congress Good on the New York Post,

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Speaker 2: why isn't motormouth Omegan Rappino using her megaphone for a

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Speaker 2: RAN's female soccer team.

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Speaker 3: Why aren't women? They're asking the right question.

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Speaker 2: It's a great question, and don't get me wrong, it

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Speaker 2: isn't the top story of the day. When the war continues,

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Speaker 2: we're dealing with the Straits of Four Moves. The Iranians

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Speaker 2: are dropping minds. We took out their ships. We have

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Speaker 2: now taken out a whole class of warships that the

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Speaker 2: Iranians have, and we've now given warning to the Iranians. Hey, ports,

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Speaker 3: I'll get into that.

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Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz. Today.

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Speaker 2: Seems that Senator John Cornyn of Texas has had a

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Speaker 2: I'm not one hundred percent sure, but allow me to

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Speaker 3: So what does Cornyn do?

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Speaker 4: He says, you know what, I believe that if the US.

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Speaker 3: Craft the filibuster, Texas and our nation would stand to

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Speaker 2: My fellow conservatives and I have proudly used the sixty

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Speaker 2: But when the reality on the ground changes, leaders must

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Speaker 2: take stock and adapt. Today Democrats are weaponizing this Senate

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Speaker 2: Democrats started this fight, now Republicans should finish it. Oh well,

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Speaker 2: look what Ken Paxton did. Now where does this put

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Speaker 2: John Thune? This the leader of the Senate. Senate Republican

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Speaker 2: And then you gotta go non stop boom boom, boom boom.

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Speaker 2: But does this put pressure on Thune to get rid

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Speaker 3: It does.

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Speaker 2: The train might be very well leaving the station, and

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Speaker 3: This is Tony Katz.

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Speaker 6: Today, ranking member of the Budget Committee. I know you

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Speaker 6: are requesting a CBO analysis on the cost of this war.

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Speaker 6: The Washington Post is now reporting that the Pentagon estimates

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Speaker 6: that early Iran strikes cost five point six billion in

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Speaker 6: if the administration asks for more money to fund this

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: So, first, I mean the media had been reporting it

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Speaker 5: I said on your network a few days ago. Whoever

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Speaker 7: Over five billion dollars over the course of forty eight

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Speaker 7: The reality is, if you were to take that money

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Speaker 7: Obamacare subsidies, which would save the healthcare of five point

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Speaker 7: three million Americans. So this administration is willfully choosing adventurism

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Speaker 2: It is that is the only only a Democrat could

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Speaker 3: Representative Doyle here, this is just pure ignorance.

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Speaker 2: We can't go about removing the threat because healthcare subsidies

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Speaker 2: the Iranian threat, the regime threat, the terrorist threat, because

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Speaker 2: your Obamacare doesn't work. Brendan Doyle is the name of

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Speaker 2: the representative there. Purely I don't want to say the

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Speaker 3: Bring myself down.

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Speaker 2: I do find myself disgusted guys, as you often do,

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Speaker 3: But this is just too dumb for words. The argument

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Speaker 2: These people cannot be voted in, They cannot be allowed

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Speaker 2: Kats today, good to be with you. Well, they didn't

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Speaker 3: Are we? Are we all being honest with each other

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Speaker 2: The latest is US Central Command stating that Iranian ballistic

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Speaker 3: This is who they are.

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Speaker 2: Hesbela and Iran as now reported coordinated cluster bomb strikes

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Speaker 2: Said that Israeli forces have begun striking Hesbela infrastructure in Beirut. Now,

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Speaker 3: You just start shaking hands. Maybe someone's gonna tossle his hair.

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Speaker 3: They they seem to be fine with him.

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Speaker 2: And this idea that everybody hates him, everybody can't stand them.

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Speaker 3: Everybody thinks he's terrible. No part of that is true.

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Speaker 9: Probably the problem.

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Speaker 8: No, I'm not I'm not happy with the fact that

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Speaker 8: We'll see what happens.

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Speaker 8: We'll have some additional books today. But no, I'm not

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Speaker 3: Your family?

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Speaker 8: I don't like seeing him deposed, but you know, it's

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Speaker 8: And do whatever he has to say. So these are

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Speaker 2: So if they're asking questions to Lutnick, it could be

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Speaker 2: Howard Lutnik is the Commerce Secretary.

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Speaker 3: And I have said that Lutnick.

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Speaker 2: But you and your family on some boat excursion on

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Speaker 2: We're talking about stop by Epstein's Island to have lunch.

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Speaker 3: Know, the client twenty sixth term elections.

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Speaker 8: In fact, he says, the planet is already underway. How

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Speaker 8: did the bombs up in the first six Well, he's

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Speaker 8: got to focus on crime and his state. The crime

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Speaker 8: and his state is doing very badly. If we if

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Speaker 8: we went and took care of it, we're just like Washington, DG.

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Speaker 8: We have no crime. Memphis, it's down eighty two percent.

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Speaker 3: Louisiana.

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Speaker 8: You take a look at Louisiana. What he could really

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Speaker 8: do is focused on crime in his state because.

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Speaker 3: He just knew my club. That's about Governor J. B.

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Speaker 2: Pritzker, who is saying that President Trump is already working

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Speaker 2: to steal the election. I thought it was wrong to

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Speaker 2: have that kind of talk, wrong to say that people

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Speaker 2: stole the election. But the left does it all the time. Oh,

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Speaker 2: Trump's stealing this. Trump's stealing that. Republicans want to steal this. Oh,

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Speaker 2: they want to Save America Act to Save Act because

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Speaker 2: they're trying.

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Speaker 3: To steal the election.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Democrats are still on this idea that somehow,

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Speaker 2: if you are a woman or if you are black,

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Speaker 2: you can't figure out how to vote. Chuck Schumer took

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Speaker 2: to the well of the Senate to once again make

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Speaker 2: this preposterous claim.

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Speaker 3: On the Save Act.

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Speaker 11: Donald Trump has given Republicans in Congress a ridiculous ultimatum,

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Speaker 11: help him thoroughly undermine our democracy, where he will bring

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Speaker 11: all legislation to a screeching halt.

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Speaker 2: One thing you can say about Democrats is they know

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Speaker 2: how to paint a picture. One thing you can say

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Speaker 2: about Republicans is that they ain't willing to paint a picture.

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Speaker 2: This is how Chuck Schumer addresses the subject. This is

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Speaker 2: how he just blatantly, willfully lies and doesn't care.

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Speaker 3: What kind of president is.

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Speaker 11: This sounds like a pouting second yearse Sex second grader.

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Speaker 11: Even though it's clear that the Save Act has little

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Speaker 11: chance of becoming law, Donald Trump is still helpent on

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Speaker 11: getting Republicans to ram this bill through the Chamber because

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Speaker 11: he thinks undermining the vote it is the only prayer

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Speaker 11: Republicans have in the midterms, Isn't that pathetic? Republicans think

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Speaker 11: they're doing so bad that they must undermine democracy and

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Speaker 11: prevent tens of millions of Americans from voting.

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Speaker 2: If you think that showing an idea is undermining democracy,

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Speaker 2: you have no idea what democracy is. You shouldn't be

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Speaker 2: allowed to operate heavy machinery. You shouldn't be allowed out

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Speaker 2: of your house. You have no chance of surviving in

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Speaker 2: the real world. He's sure as hell can't be allowed

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Speaker 2: to run a country. What kind of child makes this claim?

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Speaker 2: The Chuck Schumer kind, the kind of guy who grills

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Speaker 2: cheeseburgers and then puts the cheese on before the meat

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Speaker 2: is grilled.

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Speaker 3: Again, fearless in this Donald Trump has said it himself.

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Speaker 11: He said, if Republicans can pass the Save Act, it

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Speaker 11: will guarantee the midterms.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Trump said that what else is he going

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Speaker 2: to say? What passing the Save Act will do? The

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Speaker 2: Save America Act. What it will do is eliminate, to

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Speaker 2: the best of our ability, the opportunities for fraud, which

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Speaker 2: is what everybody should want. But Democrats don't want that,

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Speaker 2: so what they favor is the opportunity for fraud. Why

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Speaker 2: there is only one answer that comes once you ask why.

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Speaker 2: Back to the president and his chopper. He's getting on

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Speaker 2: the helicopter there the chopper pressor.

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Speaker 6: I haven't they make to do with I didn't If

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Speaker 6: you have been bound is hit up.

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Speaker 3: Well, we haven't made a final decision.

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Speaker 8: We're not exactly happy with the way he's been negotiated.

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Speaker 8: They can they cannot have nuclear weapons, and we're not

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Speaker 8: thrilled with the way they negotiating.

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Speaker 2: Let's see out of all what the president being vague

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Speaker 2: on Iran, He's right, and I would almost argue that

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Speaker 2: his response in so many of these ways I think

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Speaker 2: hits people as old school. I'm not here to tell

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Speaker 2: you what I'm gonna do next. I'm not gonna hint

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Speaker 2: at my next move. I'm not gonna draw redlines, I'm

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Speaker 2: not gonna do any of that. I'm gonna move as

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Speaker 2: I feel we need to move to end the enemy threat.

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Speaker 2: And this has to do with whether or not Republicans

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Speaker 2: are okay with winning, because I have.

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Speaker 3: Come to believe that there are a lot of.

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Speaker 2: Republicans not okay with winning not only in the social

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Speaker 2: media groyper loser class set.

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Speaker 3: But in congress. Do we want to win? And this

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Speaker 3: is about more than Iran. I will get to that

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Speaker 3: coming up. Keep it here, Tony Katz, And this is

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Speaker 3: Tony Katz.

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Speaker 2: Today, Jill Biden wrote a book, View from the East Wing,

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Speaker 2: a memoir.

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Speaker 3: Is coming out.

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Speaker 2: Who's buying her book? Tony Kats. Tony Kats say, I'm curious.

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Speaker 2: I mean producer Land, and was going through chapters Chapter fifteen,

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Speaker 2: Favorite ice cream flavors for your husband, Chapter sixteen, How.

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Speaker 3: To lose an election in one hundred and seven days.

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Speaker 2: Chapter one, From Babysitting to the Oval, No too soon,

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Speaker 2: Chapter two, passing the sniff test.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if we're gonna do this, Producer Land, and

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Speaker 3: we're going all the way. Chapter three, where's my son's cokeine?

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Speaker 12: No?

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Speaker 3: No, you see, that's two on the nose. Son, that's two.

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Speaker 3: That's two on the nose.

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Speaker 2: Chapter three would be nothing about Hunter Biden and cocaine.

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Speaker 2: It's that that that would not be the way way

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Speaker 2: to approach that. That's so you gotta don't don't don't.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to go for the easy stuff. What

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Speaker 2: makes it funny is if you get a little esoteric.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that's fair.

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Speaker 2: You know the chapter nine running cabinet meetings is easier

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Speaker 2: than you think. So there's there's a there's a there's

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Speaker 2: a lot.

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Speaker 3: I want to know who buys the book and then

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Speaker 3: when you take a look at the cover and I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna get yelled at.

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Speaker 2: For this, fine by me. I want to know who

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Speaker 2: was in charge of the airbrush of this photo. Ladies,

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Speaker 2: it's okay to get older.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 2: Don't pretend that your face is not your face. Now

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Speaker 2: that's a personal thing. I've had this conversation with my wife.

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Speaker 2: I have no issues with plastic surgery. You do what

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Speaker 2: you want to do, but don't touch that face. It's

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Speaker 2: been a lot of years and I want a lot

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Speaker 2: more years, and that's what I want to look at.

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Speaker 2: Don't make me look at somebody else's face. I don't

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Speaker 2: want that. Keep your face, ladies. This is Tony Cats today.

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Speaker 1: Line from ball Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Cats today. I have a very unfortunate theory. And

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Speaker 1: my unfortunate theory comes from watching Republicans and asking whether

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Speaker 1: or not they want to win.

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Speaker 2: Now, you might say to me, as a rational person,

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Speaker 2: win what Tony and my response to is going to

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Speaker 2: be correct?

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Speaker 3: You could add anything in there.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they want to win, because they sure

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Speaker 2: as hell don't act like people who want to win,

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Speaker 2: do they. Tony Katz, That is me. The show is

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz Today live streaming on YouTube. Just go to

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz on YouTube, YouTube dot com slash Tony Katz,

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Speaker 2: subscribe and there you are find everything at Tony kats

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Speaker 2: dot com. Get in the chatroom. It is a very

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Speaker 2: interesting place. One chatroom chock full of trolls. The other

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Speaker 2: chatroom the finest Americans and people around the globe who

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Speaker 2: want to be together, want to connect and maybe make

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Speaker 2: a baby.

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Speaker 3: I just threw that other part in.

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Speaker 2: If you want to go right ahead, you're consenting adults,

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Speaker 2: don't tell me.

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Speaker 3: Just name it after me, would you, boy or girl?

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Speaker 3: Tony perfect name.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying that it sounds like Republicans don't want to win,

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Speaker 2: whether we're talking about Iran, whether we're.

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Speaker 3: Talking about the midterms.

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Speaker 2: I brought this up the other day regarding what's happening

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Speaker 2: with homeland security and the lack of funding for the

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Speaker 2: Department of Homeland Security, and Democrats still favor not funding it.

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Speaker 2: They still say we're going to keep it cut a shutdown.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to fund Homeland Security until until when

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Speaker 2: are we gonna fund this? I mean, we got to

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Speaker 2: come up with the reason. They already fired. Christy knows

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Speaker 2: what's our reason? Until the Republicans promise? What do they

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Speaker 2: what do they have to promise? What are they being

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Speaker 2: bad guys about? What do they have to what do

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Speaker 2: they have to prom They have to promise not to

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Speaker 2: have ice agents near polling places?

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Speaker 3: They have to do what? Now?

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's they can't have ice agents they're polling

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Speaker 2: places or near hospitals.

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Speaker 3: No, no, just can't have it.

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Speaker 2: The moving of the goalposts very very unique stuff. And

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Speaker 2: I was on Newsmax earlier today and it came up,

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Speaker 2: you know, why won't Democrats take the win?

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Speaker 3: Now? The question wasn't asked to me. It was asked

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Speaker 3: to somebody else on the panel. Nice enough guy, young guy,

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Speaker 3: nice enough guy.

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Speaker 2: And he gave an answer, and I was disagreeing with

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Speaker 2: the answer, but I didn't get a chance to engage

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Speaker 2: the disagreement. And it's not that his answer was problematic.

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Speaker 2: His answer wasn't rude or a far afield, but rather

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Speaker 2: his answer did not cover what it is that the

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Speaker 2: Democratic Party is all about. And what the Democratic Party

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Speaker 2: is all about is utilizing their opportunities to their advantage.

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Speaker 2: And they have absolutely no desire, no want whatsoever to

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Speaker 2: not take advantage of an opportunity when an opportunity comes up.

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Speaker 2: They're going to take advantage of every opportunity they have.

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Speaker 2: When you see, for example, here was the I think

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Speaker 2: this is it right here, this was the this, this

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Speaker 2: was the moment on Newsmax. I think this was it

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Speaker 2: earlier today.

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Speaker 1: Of DHS and ployees, John Bone speaking and critical DHS priorities.

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Speaker 5: Are going unfunded. Will this be the week the Democrats

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Speaker 5: who actually get serious? I hope, he answers, yes.

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Speaker 2: Now, I will tell you I was already fuming when

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Speaker 2: I heard John Thune speaking like that. I had the

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Speaker 2: same issue was speaker Mike Johnson the other day. That

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Speaker 2: is not how one wins, and it leads me back

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Speaker 2: into this place. I hope this will this be the

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Speaker 2: moment where Democrats get serious?

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Speaker 3: I hope.

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Speaker 2: So that is not how you talk, That is not

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Speaker 2: the talk of a fighter, and so Luke Balls's name,

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Speaker 2: nice enough guy. I don't know him personally. He was

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Speaker 2: asked a question by the host, shunning Cake.

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Speaker 9: Luke helped me understand what the political play is for

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Speaker 9: Democrats here. Why don't they claim a win with all

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Speaker 9: those changes made to DHS and then push through the

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Speaker 9: funding and claim a win there too.

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Speaker 13: I wish I could offer much more insight on Democrats

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Speaker 13: on Capitol Hill, but their logic seems to elude me,

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Speaker 13: eludes a lot of the American people, because they've been

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Speaker 13: through this once before, and they know that I from

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Speaker 13: the Board Patrol is funded. They know that the things

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Speaker 13: that they are railing against continually are not even being

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Speaker 13: held up by the DHS.

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Speaker 10: Shut down and the funding that's not going to them

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Speaker 10: right now. In fact, it's only danger in dangering the

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Speaker 10: American people. And so I think they just simply don't

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Speaker 10: have an alternative message heading into them in terms except

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Speaker 10: anti Trump and anti Republicans.

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Speaker 3: Now, if you were with me at Trump one year later,

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Speaker 3: I made this exact point.

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Speaker 2: If you take a look at what Democrats are going

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Speaker 2: to run on, which is ice, which is authoritarian, which

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Speaker 2: is Epstein. What these things have in common is Trump

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Speaker 2: not one of them is a policy. They have no

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Speaker 2: policy to run on.

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Speaker 3: But the question that was.

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Speaker 2: Asked is why aren't Democrats taking the win. It's because

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Speaker 2: Democrats know how to take and exact every amount of

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Speaker 2: pain possible to get the maximum. Now, very often they

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Speaker 2: overplay their hands, but they are not afraid to try.

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Speaker 3: You already got rid of Nome. You've already basically capitulated

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Speaker 3: on name the thing. Why can't they get this from

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Speaker 3: you as well? They move the goalposts. No, now, this

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Speaker 3: is the most important thing. I thought this was about Nome.

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Speaker 3: It was never about Nome. That was a fat of company.

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Speaker 3: You had to get rid of Nome.

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Speaker 2: But this thing over here and not having ice at

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Speaker 2: polling places the most important thing.

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Speaker 8: Ever.

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Speaker 2: We've always said so East Asia was always at war

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Speaker 2: with Eurasia.

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Speaker 3: This is how they act.

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Speaker 2: And the problem here is that John Thune wants to

683
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Speaker 2: look good in a suit and make silly statements on

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Speaker 2: the Senate floor. My statement yesterday, my argument yesterday was

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Speaker 2: that every single Republican.

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Speaker 3: Senator should go back to their state, go to an.

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Speaker 2: Airport, start handing up bottles of water to the people

688
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: who've been waiting online in.

689
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Speaker 3: TSA for hours.

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Speaker 2: And apologize for the fact that Democrats won't fund the

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Speaker 2: Department of Homeland Security, and these TSA agents aren't getting

692
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Speaker 2: paid and that's why the lines are long. And I

693
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 2: am so sorry that Democrats are doing this to you.

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Speaker 14: If only Democrats would go out there and actually fund

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Speaker 14: the Department of Homeland Security, where is the fight?

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Speaker 2: Of course they should make this manuver. What kind of

697
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: person would say that's a terrible idea?

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Speaker 3: Why would you do that? What are you doing now?

699
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 3: You think it's working, you think you can get your funding.

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Speaker 2: You have to lay every delay, You have to lay

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Speaker 2: every death, You have to lay every piece of damage

702
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Speaker 2: at their freaking feet.

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Speaker 3: Why is it that Republicans act like they don't want

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Speaker 3: to win?

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Speaker 2: Why is it that every move they make, they act

706
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Speaker 2: and perform and engage like they don't want to win?

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Speaker 3: And so I've started, and people have done this before.

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00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 3: I'm not first to this. Republicans have a real problem

709
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Speaker 3: with winning. I apply this to a wren.

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Speaker 2: When I heard this, this commentary from Josh Hawley, the

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Speaker 2: Senator from Missouri. Josh Hawley to me, has been a

712
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Speaker 2: outrageous letdown. Outrageous letdown. And Josh Hawley is on with

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Speaker 2: Jesse Waters Fox News. And by the way, I've never

714
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 2: met Jesse Waters. I've never had a conversation with Jesse Waters.

715
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Speaker 3: Zero issue with the man.

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Speaker 2: We might agree on things, might disagree on things, whatever.

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Speaker 2: I didn't particularly enjoy this conversation and his presentation, but

718
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Speaker 2: there could be other ones that I love. Right, fine,

719
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Speaker 2: same thing's true. How we could see the radio show.

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Speaker 2: But it gets to a moment where Senator Josh Hawley

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Speaker 2: Missouri is discussing this idea that when it comes to

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Speaker 2: a ran, we've already won.

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Speaker 3: We've already won, And I'm asking, what are you talking about.

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Speaker 12: Well, I think that he's achieved his objectives the way

725
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Speaker 12: that he's laid them out, and you just put it beautiful, Jesse.

726
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Speaker 12: I mean, what is there really that's left to do

727
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Speaker 12: that we haven't already done. I mean, we have demonstrated

728
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Speaker 12: to the world and anybody who's watching, by the way,

729
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Speaker 12: that we have overwhelming military superiority and we know how

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Speaker 12: to use it. We have totally destroyed forever their nuclear program,

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Speaker 12: we have destroyed their ballistic missiles, we have destroyed their navy.

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Speaker 12: I mean, this has been a total success in whatever

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Speaker 12: it's been eleven days, and I thought the president's remarks

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Speaker 12: last night that he could declare victory today and it

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Speaker 12: would be a one victory. I think it's true. I

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Speaker 12: think we ought to say to our heroes, thank you

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Speaker 12: for a job well done. This has been absolutely amazing,

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Speaker 12: it's been astounding, it's been historic, and now it's time

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Speaker 12: to declare victory.

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Speaker 3: But you're not victorious, Senator, what are you claiming victory on.

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Speaker 2: We took out navy, we took out hardware, we took

742
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Speaker 2: out the Ayatolla. All true, absolutely, positively true. We did,

743
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Speaker 2: indeed do those things. Today we learn that an Iranian

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Speaker 2: link tacker is tied to a cyber attack on a

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Speaker 2: US company. You have got hits, you have got minds

746
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Speaker 2: that got dropped into the straits of Hormuz.

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Speaker 12: You have.

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Speaker 2: Still attacks on Israel, coming from Iran and coming from Hespola.

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Speaker 2: You have a certainly damaged leadership, unquestionably but not eradicated.

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Speaker 2: And President Trump told the protesters help is on its way.

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Speaker 2: What is this conversation that we should walk away? Oh, Tony,

752
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Speaker 2: you're a warmonger. I'm in favor of finishing the job

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Speaker 2: and then walking away.

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Speaker 3: Is it finished?

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Speaker 4: Why in the world. Would a senator be.

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Speaker 2: Saying on national television. Yeah, it's cable news. But you

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Speaker 2: know the difference, Well, we're done here. We're not done here.

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Speaker 2: We're not done here. Always these accomplish all his objectives.

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Speaker 3: We can go Now, why would you? What is it

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Speaker 3: with Republicans?

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Speaker 2: And then you take a look at the groper loser class,

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Speaker 2: all these social media people.

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Speaker 3: It's a forever Warren. How dare we be attacking a

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Speaker 3: nation that never did anything to us? What a lie

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Speaker 3: that is?

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Speaker 2: Does the groper loser class really have that much of

767
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Speaker 2: a hold on the members of Congress?

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Speaker 3: Because the groper loser class is not real life?

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Speaker 2: Real life is do we want a regime that is

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Speaker 2: the key supporter of terrorism that the House had said,

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Speaker 2: it voted on making that statement. Only Democrats were opposed.

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Speaker 2: Do we really think that that regime to any extent

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Speaker 2: should be allowed to exist? That's winning, that's not winning.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy, that's that is failing. That is purposefully walking away.

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Speaker 2: Why in the world would we do that without having

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Speaker 2: complete and total victory. President Trump was asked about this

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Speaker 2: and that press conference they had by that by the helicopter.

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Speaker 10: And you declare victory in this war, and the supreme

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Speaker 10: leader remains the iatomic son.

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Speaker 8: I don't want to comment by that. I don't want to,

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Speaker 8: but I will tell you I just spoke with various

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Speaker 8: countries and the leaders.

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Speaker 3: Of various countries.

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Speaker 8: You'll have a list, and they said they've devastated anything

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Speaker 8: like it we have. And I built it during my

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Speaker 8: first term and.

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Speaker 2: I used it.

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Speaker 8: I didn't realize I was going to use it as much.

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Speaker 3: But we have the.

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Speaker 8: Greatest military in the world.

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Speaker 2: But we do have the greatest military in the world

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Speaker 2: by far. It's unquestionably true. And what we have shown

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Speaker 2: the world should frighten them, and I'm down with that.

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Speaker 2: I don't need to have the big parades and I

795
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 2: don't need to show off the hardware. If we're going

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Speaker 2: to engage, I want to engage so fully and so completely.

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Speaker 2: I want to so overwhelm the opponents that the opponents

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Speaker 2: and everyone watching.

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Speaker 3: Is afraid to look us in the eye the next

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Speaker 3: time they see us. That's just me.

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Speaker 2: I think Republicans are afraid to win. Why in the

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Speaker 2: world are you afraid to take on this fire to

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Speaker 2: its finality?

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Speaker 3: Don't be.

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Speaker 2: Why are you afraid to take on Democrats where they

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Speaker 2: are and lay the shut down at their feet because

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Speaker 2: it's their faults, and be screaming about how they're not

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00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 2: paying a tsa, how families are going to starve, how

809
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 2: Americans are going to die, and quite literally go and

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Speaker 2: tell the people right where they're suffering.

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Speaker 3: Democrats are doing this to you. Why not.

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Speaker 2: You won't message and now you're afraid to finish the

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Speaker 2: fight when you come this far. It's the weirdest thing

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Speaker 2: in the world. It's the weirdest thing in the world.

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Speaker 2: It's silly, it's cowardly, it's nonsensical. It is not where

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00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 2: the people are. It is where the growth for loser

817
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 2: class is. But that's not how you run a country.

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Speaker 2: Let them drop and run the country. Fight the fight

819
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Speaker 2: and win. Maybe then you'll have a chance in the midterms.

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Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today. You know, I was discussing

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Speaker 2: the latest about Iran and some things that were happening,

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Speaker 2: but I want to make sure I went over them

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Speaker 2: with just a little bit of depth. So News Nation

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Speaker 2: reporting that a cyber attack was carried out on a

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Speaker 2: US based medical equipment company called Striker stryk R. This,

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Speaker 2: according to The Wall Street Journal, disrupting operations for thousands

827
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Speaker 2: of employees who could not access company systems. So there

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Speaker 2: is a group Iranian linked claiming responsibility for saying that

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Speaker 2: this was a retaliation quote for the brutal attack on

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Speaker 2: the monob school and in response to ongoing cyber assaults

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Speaker 2: against the infrastructure of the Axis of Resistance. This girls

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Speaker 2: school that got hit by a missile, and they're still

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Speaker 2: asking Trump about it. There's still investigations going on. People

834
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Speaker 2: want to say, well, this is all about the America

835
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Speaker 2: did this and they bombed this school. We got to

836
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Speaker 2: get in there and we got to check and if

837
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Speaker 2: we did it, we got to owe up to it,

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Speaker 2: plain and simple. Absolutely, Will we find out that the

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Speaker 2: Iranians in this school were launching missiles from it also

840
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Speaker 2: very very possible. So you have first this cyber attack,

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Speaker 2: then you have Aran targeting commercial ships across the Persian Gulf,

842
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:47,919
Speaker 2: the Dubai airport and oil facilities. So they are still

843
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Speaker 2: able to hit drones. Now they're ninety two percent reduced

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Speaker 2: from when the war started. And I do call it

845
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Speaker 2: a war like I call it regime change, because we

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Speaker 2: should honestly discuss what these things are. They are ninety

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Speaker 2: sent down in their firing and missiles, and in their

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Speaker 2: drone capability they need to be one hundred percent down,

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Speaker 2: so they have no capability whatsoever. So they are still

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Speaker 2: hitting targets, they are still able to get at those

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Speaker 2: they want to get at. And then comes this polling,

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Speaker 2: and I'm going to dig into this more. I have

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Speaker 2: a conversation with Noah Rothman coming up that you're going

854
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Speaker 2: to want.

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Speaker 3: To hear from National Review.

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Speaker 2: Quinnipiac shows that fifty three voters are against military action

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Speaker 2: in Iran, while forty percent support it.

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Speaker 3: Now, this I attribute to President Trump not.

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Speaker 2: Properly, just like he did it with the economy in TIFFs,

860
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Speaker 2: and we talked about it here and we got vilified

861
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Speaker 2: for it. We know about things going on because what

862
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Speaker 2: we're part of the show, right, we're paying attention. Not

863
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 2: everybody is, they're living their lives. You do have to

864
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Speaker 2: sometimes make a case to the American people, not to

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Speaker 2: other nations. Hey here's what's happening, and here's what we're doing,

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Speaker 2: here's why we're doing it, and here's the result we're

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Speaker 2: going for, and we're going to do this.

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Speaker 3: This is going to happen. Got to sell the story.

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Speaker 3: What doesn't always do that.

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Speaker 2: This is Tony Kats Today. Three more things to get

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Speaker 2: to Tony Katz. Tony Katz Today. Find everything at tonycats

872
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Speaker 2: dot com. Stories that should be front page but aren't. Necessarily.

873
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Speaker 2: We talk about the oil prices going on out there

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Speaker 2: because of the hit against Iran, because these tankers won't

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Speaker 2: will not go through the straits of our moves. And

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Speaker 2: President Trump has been very very clear, these people don't

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Speaker 2: have a navy. I don't know what's preventing you from

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Speaker 2: doing so, but you should be sending tankers through the

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Speaker 2: straits of war moves right now, are you talking?

880
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Speaker 8: Are you talking CEOs of various oil companies encouraging them

881
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 8: to use this straight upright right? They should. I think

882
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 8: they should.

883
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 2: I think they should use.

884
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 6: On you.

885
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 8: Look, we took out just about all of their mind shifts,

886
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 8: and one night we're up to vote number sixty. I

887
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 8: didn't realize that that big a navy. I would say

888
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 8: it was big and ineffective. But every one of the shifts,

889
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 8: just about all of the navy is gone at bottom

890
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 8: of this.

891
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 2: Day, but they still have launchers and it's still creating issue.

892
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 2: And it's why I have said I am totally fine

893
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 2: with the military escort.

894
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 3: Why not.

895
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 2: You have to get these people to believe that everything's

896
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 2: going to be all right, and you actually have to

897
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 2: provide the safety. That's part of the gig you start

898
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 2: the fight. It's part of what you knew was coming.

899
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 2: Had to everybody knew this was coming. Let's not be silly.

900
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 2: The IAEA, which is the International Energy Agency, thirty two

901
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 2: member countries agreeing to release four hundred million barrels of

902
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 2: oil to address the supply disruption, largest release of the

903
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 2: stockpiles in the history of the ia Europe, North America

904
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 2: and Northeast Asia. Japan saying they're willing to release oil

905
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 2: stock piles as early as next week.

906
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 3: Well that is.

907
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 2: That is going to certainly change some things, not as

908
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 2: much as free flowing the.

909
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 3: Straits before moves.

910
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 2: Then you have news that Chubb, the insurance group, is

911
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 2: going to be the lead underwriter for an insurance program

912
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 2: led by the US Development Finance Corporation.

913
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 8: And this.

914
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 3: Is to say two ships, Hey, we got you covered

915
00:57:55,680 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 3: for losses. Let's go let's go send the oil. So

916
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 3: moves are being made to get that oil flowing again.

917
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 3: Then there is.

918
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 2: The story out of CBS News CBS News investigations, saying,

919
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 2: we visited ground zero for hospice fraud and you say

920
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 2: to me, hospice fraud. Yeah, that's Los Angeles, California. And

921
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 2: they proceed to share what it is they found about

922
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 2: hospices in one building, geographic clustering, low patient account accounts,

923
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 2: the billing, and so let's go through some basics of

924
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:04,479
Speaker 2: what it is they just covered. They discovered that they're

925
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 2: about eighteen hundred licensed hospices in Los Angeles County, California,

926
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 2: more than six times the national average based on the

927
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 2: senior population.

928
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 3: It's a lot of hospices, possibly way too many.

929
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 2: Then CBS News discovered that of those eighteen hundred, forty

930
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 2: two or seven hundred and forty two of them still

931
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 2: operate throughout southern California, despite having multiple signs the state

932
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 2: has outlined as.

933
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 3: Indicators of frauds.

934
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 2: So they're seven hundred and forty two they are known

935
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 2: to have some connection to fraud, nearly five hundred of

936
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 2: them operating within a three mile radius.

937
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 3: This three mile.

938
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 2: Radius is in the San Fernando Valley, so just over

939
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 2: the one one on the east side of.

940
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 3: The four h five. This is an area known as.

941
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 2: Van Nis so between the four oh five, and by

942
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 2: the way, I'm saying that right in California, it's the

943
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 2: four or five, the five, the one on one.

944
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 3: Everywhere else it's four or five, five, one on one.

945
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 3: There it's the.

946
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 2: Van Nys has five hundred hospices. They went a little further.

947
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 2: There are one hundred and thirty seven hospices operating along

948
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 2: the street called Van Nuys Boulevard alone. Now, I used

949
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 2: to live in southern California. I have driven down Van

950
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 2: Nights Boulevard more than once in my life. I'm trying

951
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 2: to think of how what other kind of street I

952
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 2: could provide. It's kind of like a jet indicator. So

953
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 2: have you ever taken Pennsylvania Avenue from the White House

954
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 2: to the Capitol. One hundred and thirty seven hospices one

955
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty seven eighty nine are registered to a

956
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 2: single building. It's Minnesota all over again. Everybody knows it's fraud.

957
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 2: Everybody knows that it's fraud. Under the nose of Governor

958
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom, under the nose of Mayor Karen Bass, under

959
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 2: the nose of everybody, billions and billions of dollars medicare Medicaid,

960
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 2: home health services, hospice.

961
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 3: How much money are we spending.

962
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 2: I'm never going to listen to anybody tell me about

963
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 2: healthcare numbers again until you remove all of this from

964
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 2: the data. Don't tell me about the cost of healthcare.

965
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 2: Maybe we're doing great once should take away the fraud.

966
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 2: Once you take away the grift. What could we be

967
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 2: doing with this money? If you had this money, would

968
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 2: you ever have a homeless veteran?

969
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 3: Again?

970
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 8: No?

971
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 2: Could you pay all the student loan debt for every

972
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 2: nursing student in America?

973
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm in.

974
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 2: Favor of both of those things instead of this. Now,

975
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 2: I'd rather just the people being able to keep it.

976
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 2: I'd rather pay down the debt. But I am in

977
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 2: favor of doing the other things, not giving it to

978
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 2: this fraud. That story just now blowing up. And then

979
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 2: there's the story I said, Jose and I have said

980
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 2: this before about your place of worship. I've said it

981
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 2: to Jews people, my people. I've said it to Christians

982
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 2: who clearly understand that you have to be prepared.

983
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 3: You are a soft target in your place of worship.

984
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 3: Buy guns by Ammo and get trained.

985
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 2: And any rabbi that says you can't carry a gun

986
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 2: in the synagogue, fire that rabbi or quit because they

987
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 2: ain't worth a damn.

988
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 3: I would say this to any rabbi anywhere.

989
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 2: You carry a gun when you're in services Friday night,

990
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 2: Saturday morning, you have your firearm ready to go when

991
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 2: you're in church. They're soft targets, and they are indeed targets.

992
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 2: You are out of your head if you don't and

993
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 2: anybody it says otherwise, dismiss those people as the little

994
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 2: children that they are, because they are.

995
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 3: One should be willing to protect themselves and the ones

996
01:03:53,400 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 3: they love. The story is in San Jose. This is

997
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 3: how it's reported.

998
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 2: You had two people, as reported Israeli Americans, and they're

999
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 2: in front of a restaurant San Jose's Santana Row. I

1000
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 2: don't know what santana row is. And they're speaking to

1001
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 2: each other, but they're speaking in Hebrew, okay, and then

1002
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 2: three guys attack them. Three guys walk up to these

1003
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 2: two guys speaking Hebrew to each other, and the three

1004
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 2: guys attack them. There are people outside, sitting and eating

1005
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 2: and they all just watched. No one got up to help. Now,

1006
01:04:56,160 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 2: some people physically wouldn't be able to help. Some people

1007
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 2: are just losers.

1008
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,439
Speaker 3: These guys then ran off.

1009
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 2: Now, the San Jose Police said the detectives at this

1010
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 2: time quote have not located evidence indicating the assault would

1011
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 2: meet the elements of a hate crime. As you know,

1012
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 2: I am not a believer in hate crimes. I don't

1013
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 2: think a crime is more of a crime because it

1014
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 2: happens to this group or that group, or.

1015
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:29,959
Speaker 3: This characteristic etc.

1016
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 2: If three guys attack two guys wherever it is, it

1017
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 2: is a crime, and you need to find those people.

1018
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 3: And you need to arrest those people.

1019
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 2: My point is, even though I don't believe in hate crimes,

1020
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 2: I don't believe a crime.

1021
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 3: Is more of a crime because it happens to a

1022
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 3: certain group.

1023
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 2: I think that's really an ugly thought that is different

1024
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 2: than whether or not things happen to people in specific

1025
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 2: groups because of specific things. And if Jews don't think

1026
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 2: they should walk down the street being prepared to protect

1027
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 2: themselves and defend themselves as more and more people are

1028
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 2: ginned up to the bigotry and the anti Semitism, well

1029
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 2: then those Jews are stupid.

1030
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 3: And I'm sick and tired of stupid and.

1031
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm actually using the word stupid, considering

1032
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 2: I spent the vast majority of my career saying that

1033
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 2: the word stupid and dumb end conversation, and I try

1034
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 2: to avoid them with everything in me.

1035
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 3: But at some moment one has.

1036
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 2: To say, this is just ridiculous, facocta crazy nuts. Start

1037
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 2: being prepared. People think they could just attack you in

1038
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 2: the middle of the streets because you're Jewish, well then

1039
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 2: you better be prepared to do something about it and

1040
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 2: go get trained. I am not guaranteeing safety. If you

1041
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 2: have a firearm, I just want you to have a chance.

1042
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 2: And if you don't want to carry a firearm but

1043
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 2: you want to carry something else, go right ahead.

1044
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 3: You want to go get trained.

1045
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 2: In krav magar, jiujitsu or whatever, go right ahead. But

1046
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 2: stop walking down the street like you think everything's gonna

1047
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 2: be fine, because it ain't nothing fine. It's really a

1048
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 2: message for all Americans.

1049
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 3: If you have a class of people, a group of

1050
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 3: people who have been told for.

1051
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 2: Forever now that you because your political beliefs are a

1052
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 2: threat to women and a threat to democracy and a

1053
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 2: threat to freedom. Eventually people hear that enough and they

1054
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 2: absolutely believe that they have to do something about it

1055
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 2: because you're a threat, and they're allowed to protect themselves

1056
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 2: from the threat. There's a group of people out there

1057
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 2: on the left that believes punch a Nazi. Well, who's

1058
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 2: a Nazi? Anybody I disagree with as a Nazi?

1059
01:07:56,760 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 3: Oh gosh. They have an internalize the violence.

1060
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 2: They believe in the violence, and they think that violence

1061
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 2: against those they disagree with is founded and warranted, and

1062
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 2: they feel pious about it.

1063
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 3: And I think you should be prepared to fight against that.

1064
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 3: Do we want the violence? No? Do we have to

1065
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 3: stop supporting those things? Absolutely, and I would.

1066
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 2: Really appreciate if the Democratic Party would do that.

1067
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 3: But in all moments, you have to be prepared to

1068
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 3: protect and defend yourself.

1069
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 2: So go get it done. But to my people, Hello Jews,

1070
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 2: how are you Tony Katz?

1071
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 3: Here?

1072
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 2: Aronia, Sir, I'll bend label in case you're asking the

1073
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 2: Hebrew name? Buy guns by AMMO, get trained. If you don't,

1074
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 2: you're crazy. And any rabbi who says no, fire him

1075
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:54,679
Speaker 2: or her. They ain't worth your time and they're okay

1076
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 2: if you get hurt or worse, that is not what

1077
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 2: a what a leader should want.

1078
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz over there.

1079
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 2: At CNN, and you've seen a lot of people talking

1080
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:07,679
Speaker 2: about this in your social media feeds.

1081
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 3: You have.

1082
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 2: Abby Phillip, who runs that Struggle Sessions show over there.

1083
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 3: Making statements like this.

1084
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 15: To Republicans, say Muslims don't belong here after an attempted

1085
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 15: terror attack against New York's mayor Zoramumdannie and the House

1086
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 15: Speaker Mike Johnson says nothing really to condemn those comments.

1087
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 2: Now you can say the members of Congress are wrong

1088
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 2: about saying that about Muslims, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today,

1089
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:46,759
Speaker 2: go right ahead.

1090
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 3: But what in the world is Abby Phillip of CNN

1091
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:52,719
Speaker 3: saying here.

1092
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:56,639
Speaker 15: To Republicans say Muslims don't belong here after an attempted

1093
01:09:56,720 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 15: terror attack against New York's mayors or ma'mdanni and the House.

1094
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 3: There was no terrorist attack. Again, sorrow Mumdanni.

1095
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 2: It was a terrorist attack from two guys inspired by ISIS,

1096
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 2: who pledged their fealty to ISIS, who built it, ied

1097
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 2: and threw it at protesters, threw it at Americans. It

1098
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 2: doesn't matter how disgusting or despicable they are, or how

1099
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 2: wonderful they are, whether you agree or disagree with them.

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Speaker 3: None of that matters.

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Speaker 2: What matters is they threw it at Americans trying to

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Speaker 2: kill Americans. This wasn't about Mumdani at all. Why would

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Speaker 2: Abbey Phillips say that? And she puts out a statement

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Speaker 2: on Twitter X. I want to correct something I said

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Speaker 2: last night. The bombs thrown in New York City over

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Speaker 2: the weekend by ISIS inspired attackers was thrown into a

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Speaker 2: crowd of anti Muslim protesters and not specifically targeted at

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Speaker 2: Mayor Mamdani. That wording was inaccurate. I didn't catch it

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Speaker 2: ahead of time. I apologized for the error. First, you

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Speaker 2: said one on cable news and something else on social media.

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Speaker 2: How many people heard the social media thing? Secondly, it

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Speaker 2: wasn't not specifically at Mayor Mondanni. It was not about

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Speaker 2: Mayor Mondannie. So she lied on TV and then lied

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Speaker 2: in her apology her correction.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Tony, how come people don't trust mainstream media? Oh?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Ask Abby Phillip. This is Tony Katz today. Lie from

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Speaker 1: vall Hartbeiner and the Crossroads of America. It's Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: It's not that I have been led to believe that

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Speaker 2: Republicans don't want to win. It's that they have told

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Speaker 2: me in no uncertain terms, whether it's members of Congress, House,

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Speaker 2: and Senate, whether it's the influencer chattering class of absolute fools,

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Speaker 2: they have no interest in winning. They have no interest

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Speaker 2: in a fight. They don't actually want to fight, they

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Speaker 2: don't know how to fight. They would rather complain about

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Speaker 2: forever wars than ending them. Now, this is going to

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Speaker 2: be seen as heresy amongst a lot of people, some

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Speaker 2: of whom are maga and some of whom are part

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Speaker 2: of this influencer set that thinks Tucker is making a

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Speaker 2: point I put forth to you that he's not.

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Speaker 3: The point is we win or.

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Speaker 2: We lose, and you don't win until the deal is done.

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Good to be here, Good

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Speaker 2: to be with you. Noah Roffman joins me right now

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Speaker 2: from National Review. That's where you find his work and

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Speaker 2: also his latest book, which will soon be available, Blood

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Speaker 2: and Progress, a Century of Left Wing Violence, available on

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Speaker 2: Amazon dot com in May or wherever fine books are sold.

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Speaker 2: And I was overjoyed to see your peace over at

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Speaker 2: National Review last week. This regarding this very concept about

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01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 2: winning America and where is it there it is America

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Speaker 2: and Israel remind the world how wars are fought to victory.

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Speaker 2: And what I am saying is that it very much

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Speaker 2: seems when I'm hearing this talk of we could declare

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Speaker 2: victory and be done right now, My gosh, we've already

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01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 2: achieved everything.

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Speaker 3: The regime is not gone.

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Speaker 2: You still have missiles flying, There is still the possibility

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Speaker 2: of oil being sold to China and therefore dollars being

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Speaker 2: utilized for terrorism. You still have because the regime has

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Speaker 2: not been dismantled, destroyed, obliterated, however you want to call it,

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01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 2: the people still under threatt and even if you think

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Speaker 2: that the Iranian people still under threat and not being

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Speaker 2: able to live their lives, it's something you shouldn't concern

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Speaker 2: yourself with. One can clearly say if President Trump said

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Speaker 2: help is on its way, that's what he meant. So

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Speaker 2: let's start with my original premise your story there at

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01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 2: National Review.

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Speaker 3: Are Republicans afraid of winning?

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Speaker 16: I don't think Republicans are afraid of winning. I think

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01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 16: Republicans are afraid of losing, which is a prudent consideration. However,

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Speaker 16: it's a consideration that needs to be informed by more

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Speaker 16: than the perspective that you've gleaned from the first eleven

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Speaker 16: days of this conflict. It's a perspective that needs to

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Speaker 16: incorporate the twenty five years or more of wargaming that

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Speaker 16: has been going on in Washington, in Jerusalem, and western

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01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 16: capitals in Europe about how this conflict would unfold. And

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Speaker 16: so far it looks nothing like what we anticipated. And

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Speaker 16: it looked nothing like what we anticipated in a good way,

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Speaker 16: in a way that favors the West. So, just like

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Speaker 16: any conflict, the enemy gets a vote, no plan survives

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01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,560
Speaker 16: first contact with the enemy, as the axiom holds, and

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Speaker 16: that's all true in this conflict. We can't control every outcome,

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01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:03,719
Speaker 16: but we control a lot of outcomes. So we should

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Speaker 16: start back in let's say two thousand mid mid Auds,

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Speaker 16: two thousand and two to two thousand and seven, and

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Speaker 16: the anticipation of what this war would look like, and

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Speaker 16: the wargames anticipated that a rain would activate its network

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Speaker 16: of proxies, that Europeans and Americans would be targeted on

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Speaker 16: the homeland in the United States and in Europe, as

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Speaker 16: well as our vulnerable positions in places like Iraq and Syria.

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Speaker 16: Sleeper cells would activate in Latin America and perhaps cross

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Speaker 16: through the border southern border. Hezblah would roar to Life

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Speaker 16: and Lebanon and rain missiles down on Israel, crippling cyber

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Speaker 16: attacks across the Western landscape. Governmental and commercial interests like

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Speaker 16: banks would be significantly disrupted. Individual financial transactions would be disrupted. Bombs, missiles,

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Speaker 16: drones and mines would close off the Horrmus straight for

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Speaker 16: the foreseeable future, creating crippling pressure on the energy markets.

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Speaker 16: We were anticipated to say, within days, if not weeks,

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Speaker 16: of that conflict two hundred three hundred dollars by dollars

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Speaker 16: a barrel for Brent crude, to say nothing of the

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Speaker 16: military campaign on the ground, which would likely necessitate a

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Speaker 16: significant ground invasion upwards of five hundred thousand ground troops

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Speaker 16: US ground troops, maybe a million in arms on the ground.

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Speaker 16: By the end of combat operations, it was anticipated that

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Speaker 16: about a million people would be dead, civilians and military alike.

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Speaker 16: Iranian cities would be in ruins, compelling the West to

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Speaker 16: commit untold fortune to its rebuilding. Because those who survived

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Speaker 16: the conflict will mainly live in a state of economic

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Speaker 16: devastation for years, and some perhaps will pick up arms

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Speaker 16: in the form of insurgent groups to fight the invading

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Speaker 16: US force. According to vox dot com, a civil war

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Speaker 16: would follow the regimes collapse, followed by a massive refugee

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Speaker 16: crisis across the region, and pockets of instability would create

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Speaker 16: conditions in which terrorist groups, transnational islam As terrorist groups

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Speaker 16: would thrive and project power outward.

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Speaker 5: So this was the scenario.

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Speaker 2: This was the scenario that was put forth by the

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Speaker 2: people in the think tanks who say, well, if you

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Speaker 2: do this, here's what's going to happen.

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Speaker 3: Worst case scenario, here's what you got. That was the

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Speaker 3: thoughts in the early two thousands.

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Speaker 5: Right, So todate.

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Speaker 16: According to Admiral Brad Cooper, who's in charge of this campaign,

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Speaker 16: the US alone has struck five five hundred military targets.

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Speaker 16: Our goal is simply to eliminate Iran's capacity to project

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Speaker 16: power across its borders, and we're doing that. Iranian missile

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Speaker 16: launches are down ninety two percent from the outset of hostilities.

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Speaker 16: Its missile stockpiles are roughly depleted. Those that aren't depleted

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Speaker 16: are entombed in these underground missile cities. We have drones

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Speaker 16: that orbit above those that we haven't hit, and just

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Speaker 16: simply strike when they see activity. Roughly sixty percent of

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Speaker 16: Iran's ballistic missile launchers have been disabled, so even if

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Speaker 16: it has significant stockpiles, and it still does, it doesn't

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Speaker 16: have the means to launch them. The Iranian Navy is

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Speaker 16: now fodder for artificial reefs. We've hit approximately sixty vessels,

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Speaker 16: including every one of the most advanced class of ships warships,

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Speaker 16: the Solomani class.

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Speaker 5: They're all gone.

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Speaker 16: Sixteen Iranian mind layers have been destroyed. We've hit ten

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Speaker 16: of Iran's eighteen airfield to rendering most of them just

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Speaker 16: completely inoperable, hitting their their runways. For example. The Iranian

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Speaker 16: air Force is a non issue. The United States now maintains,

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Speaker 16: if not air supremacy or superiority, which allows us to

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Speaker 16: back off these really expensive rockets, standoff exquisite munitions they're called,

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Speaker 16: and lean more into gravity bombs, which are you know,

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Speaker 16: dumb dumb bombs as you remember them from the twentieth century.

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Speaker 16: But all of them, all of them are fitted with

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Speaker 16: jade am kits which allow them to be precision, precision

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Speaker 16: guided munitions. So people who say things like we're carpet

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Speaker 16: bombing US cities just don't understand. Iranian cities just don't

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Speaker 16: understand what our capabilities are. We just don't do that

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Speaker 16: anymore because we don't have to. In addition, just as

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Speaker 16: was the case in Venezuela, Iranian technology, or rather Russian

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Speaker 16: and Chinese technology, stealth radars, for example, these advanced as

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01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,719
Speaker 16: three hundred as four hundred anti air batteries are.

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Speaker 5: Just simply not a factor in this fight.

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Speaker 16: So we've demonstrated, we've conveyed to the capitals in Beijing

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Speaker 16: and Moscow precisely how limited their capacities are.

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Speaker 5: Now, that's not to say that there aren't problems with this.

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Speaker 16: Whole campaign, and in particular the Iranian strategy to project

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Speaker 16: force outward to draw the Gulf into this fight that.

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Speaker 5: Was also anticipated.

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Speaker 16: In fact, it was anticipated that the Gulf States would

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Speaker 16: sue for peace, or if not, at least ensure their

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Speaker 16: neutrality by virtue of how they were being hit.

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Speaker 5: And the opposite has happened.

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Speaker 16: It's emboldened the Gulf States to support this campaign tacitly

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Speaker 16: or even actively in some cases. And we're seeing some

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Speaker 16: efforts by the Uranian regime to create this oil price

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Speaker 16: spike that we also anticipated would be the case with

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Speaker 16: the cutting off of the Strait of Hormuz.

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Speaker 5: For the most part, however, the Strait.

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Speaker 16: Of Hormones is closed off not because it's mined, not

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Speaker 16: because missiles are flying. Short range missiles are a significant threat,

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Speaker 16: but they're not the threat that is closed off the strait.

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Speaker 16: It's largely market considerations, insurance and what have you that

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Speaker 16: has put traffic to a halt, which is a finance

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Speaker 16: atial weapon, not necessarily a connectic weapon, and we have

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Speaker 16: the means to deal with that as well, but it's

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Speaker 16: not what we anticipated in two thousand and two or

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Speaker 16: two thousand and seven what this conflict would look like.

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Speaker 16: Talking to the enemy always gets a vote, but the

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Speaker 16: enemy's vote is attenuated significantly in ways that I don't

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Speaker 16: think is being really appreciated by lay observers of this conflict.

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Speaker 2: So I appreciate a full layout of what happened there

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Speaker 2: the background talking to Noah Rothman of National Review. And

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Speaker 2: we should note that as we're discussing this, the news

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Speaker 2: out today that the IEA, the International Energy Agency thirty

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Speaker 2: two member countries, they're going to release four hundred million.

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Speaker 3: Barrels of oil to address the shortfall.

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Speaker 2: It still doesn't change what has to happen in the Straits,

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Speaker 2: the removal of minds and possibly the escorting of ships through.

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Speaker 3: We can get to that at another time.

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Speaker 2: But I started this conversation with our Republicans afraid of winning.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you why I bring that up.

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Speaker 2: Now you're saying is is that everything they thought would

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Speaker 2: be true is not true did not come to pass.

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Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, the opposite has taken place.

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Speaker 2: This was Senator Josh Hawley Missouri on Fox News yesterday.

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Speaker 12: Well, I think that he's achieved his objectives the way

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Speaker 12: that he's laid them out, and you just put it beautifully, Jesse.

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Speaker 12: I mean, what is there really that's left to do

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Speaker 12: that we haven't already done. I mean, we have demonstrated

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Speaker 12: to the world and anybody who's watching by the way,

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01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 12: that we have overwhelming military superiority and.

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Speaker 3: We know how to use it.

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Speaker 12: We have totally destroyed forever their nuclear program. We have

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Speaker 12: destroyed their ballistic missiles, we have destroyed their navy. I mean,

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Speaker 12: this has been a total success in whatever it's been

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Speaker 12: eleven days. And I thought the president's remarks last night

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Speaker 12: that he could declare victory today and it would be

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Speaker 12: a one hundred percent victory.

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Speaker 5: I think it's true.

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Speaker 12: I think we ought to say to our heroes, thank

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Speaker 12: you for a job well done. This has been absolutely amazing,

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Speaker 12: it's been astounding, it's been historic, and now it's time

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Speaker 12: to declare victory.

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Speaker 3: Now allow me for a moment.

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Speaker 2: I have no problem with declaring victory. But if the

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Speaker 2: victory is not the end of the regime, if the

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Speaker 2: victory is not the end of anybody connected to the

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Speaker 2: Ietola being in power. If the end if victory it

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Speaker 2: is not the end of dollars flowing to terrorist organizations,

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Speaker 2: whether whoever's left of Hamas has blow or anywhere else, well,

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Speaker 2: then it's not victory. If it's not the people running

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Speaker 2: or deciding their leadership and running their own lives. I

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Speaker 2: don't even begin to understand how it's victory, which leads

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Speaker 2: me back to my initial question.

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Speaker 3: Are Republicans afraid of winning?

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Speaker 2: Because what I hear from Josh Holly, and you could

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Speaker 2: argue that I'm wrong, I'm taking it in the wrong direction.

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Speaker 3: It's super possible. I think that this is a cut

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Speaker 3: and run.

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Speaker 2: I think this is if you're saying they're afraid to

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01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 2: lose not afraid to win, being afraid to lose is

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Speaker 2: an insane proposition and a foolhardy one. And that that's

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Speaker 2: what this sounds like, is have we achieved the objectives?

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Speaker 16: And premature withdrawal, no matter how much bravado you package

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Speaker 16: it in, is never going to be anything less than pusillanimous.

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Speaker 16: And the Senator and many people in the political class,

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Speaker 16: particularly on the Republican side, seem to think that they

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Speaker 16: can convey messages that are cowardly in substance, but as

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Speaker 16: long as they pound the table enough, you won't notice.

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Speaker 16: And the senator's own terms, we have not achieved the

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Speaker 16: objectives that he says. We have to obliterate the Iranian

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01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 16: nuclear program for all time would require the collapse of

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Speaker 16: this regime. But if you're going to commit yourself to

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Speaker 16: a perpetual campaign of mowing the lawn, for example, anytime

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Speaker 16: Iranians poke their heads up and try to reconstitute their

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Speaker 16: nuclear program, we hit them. Which could be which could

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Speaker 16: be considered the precedent that was set in Operation Midnight Hammer,

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Speaker 16: that we hit these we will not allow rand to

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Speaker 16: have nuclear capabilities. Anytime they try to do so, we'll

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Speaker 16: hit them again. That will not be achieved if a

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Speaker 16: maintains the capacity to develop long range and short range

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Speaker 16: ballistic missiles. We're only now, according to Brad Cooper, beginning

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Speaker 16: to strike their capacity to manufacture these weapons. And they

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Speaker 16: can manufacture these weapons and droves much faster than we

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Speaker 16: can manufacture interceptors. And what the Administration has been laying

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Speaker 16: out over the course of a week, and not sure

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Speaker 16: if the Senator just simply isn't privy to this sort

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Speaker 16: of thing, but they've been saying it for anyone willing

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01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 16: to listen, is that the Iranian regime was developing a

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Speaker 16: ballistic missile capacity that would prevent us from accessing the

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Speaker 16: Middle East. It would be it would create unacceptable costs

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Speaker 16: for military intervention against a future Iranian nuclear program. I

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Speaker 16: agree that there wasn't many indications ahead of this campaign

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Speaker 16: that the Iranians were reconstituting that program in ways that

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Speaker 16: mirrored what it looked like before Midnight Hammer, but that's

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Speaker 16: not to say that they weren't doing anything. And a

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Speaker 16: crash course missile program could create the conditions in which

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Speaker 16: the United States has denied access to this region, which

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Speaker 16: fundamentally sees if we were to accept that proposition which

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Speaker 16: seeds to a ran A nuclear program and inevitably nuclear breakout.

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Speaker 16: So yes, that position is a very muscular way of

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Speaker 16: saying that we should allow RAND to have a nuclear

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Speaker 16: weapon at some point in time based on its own

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Speaker 16: determination of when it would break out. So yes, that

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Speaker 16: it would be surrender. It's just couched in ways that

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Speaker 16: are more palatable to an audience that will accept that

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Speaker 16: sort of proposition as long as it's framed as America first, America,

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Speaker 16: muscle America alone. It's a very muscular overture to the audience.

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Speaker 16: But the thing is is that we have very little

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Speaker 16: indication that the audience is receptive to it.

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Speaker 2: Now, that is a conversation I want to get into.

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Speaker 2: Do you have a little more time? Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 2: Noah Rothman, National Review dot Com.

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Speaker 3: Keep it here. This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: This did not hit the radars of many people, this

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Speaker 2: statement from UNI Birmingham. You're like, what is you need Birmingham,

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Speaker 2: University of Birmingham, this is the UK Tony Katz, Tony

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Speaker 2: Katz today, good to be with you. Statement on sexual

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Speaker 2: abuse and organizational accountability.

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Speaker 3: Oh dear lord, what the heck is this about? Well?

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Speaker 2: This is about Hamas supporters raping people. That's what it's about.

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Speaker 3: I'll read it to you. Can't make this up. I

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01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 3: wouldn't know how to make this up.

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Speaker 2: It reads statement on sexual abuse and organizational accountability. We

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01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 2: want to begin by acknowledging the serious harm that occurred

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Speaker 2: during the encampments. So far, we are aware that four

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Speaker 2: former participants in BLZ spaces were subjected to serious and

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01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 2: damaging abuse by Akmad code name Egypt, who is a

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01:26:57,040 --> 01:27:00,240
Speaker 2: student at UOB and was a member of BLZ at

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Speaker 2: the time. Organizational failures meant that the survivor Pink was

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Speaker 2: excluded from spaces where the person who harmed her was

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01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 2: later able to return. You understand that these people speak

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Speaker 2: in in ways that make it impossible to follow.

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Speaker 3: Let's try and understand it.

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01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 2: Hamas rape enthusiasts the college encampment were raping each other.

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Speaker 3: Correct, absolutely accurate.

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01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:37,679
Speaker 2: This BLZ Birmingham Liberated Zone right like the Chaz chop

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01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 2: Oh oh, they've got all their buzzwords and you got

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01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 2: to just go through deciphering it to understand what was said.

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Speaker 2: What they're actually getting to Birmingham Queers for Palestine.

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Speaker 3: We could stop right there and take a breath. Uh,

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Speaker 3: what did h Yaho say?

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01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 2: A Queers for Palestine is like chickens AREFC. I was

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Speaker 2: in the room there, in the chamber where the House

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01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 2: and Senate gathers. I was in the House chamber when

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Speaker 2: it got said. Birmingham Queers for Palestine began in September

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01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:14,920
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four after a small group left the Birmingham

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01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:18,559
Speaker 2: Liberated Zone at the University of Birmingham following a pattern

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Speaker 2: of sexual assault and normalization of abusive behavior within the organization.

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01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 2: In June twenty twenty four, a member of BLZ Achmad

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Speaker 2: code named egypt That doesn't mean the dude was Egyptian,

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01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 2: was credibly accused of both sexual and emotional abuse by

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01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 2: another camper named Pink. When questioned on this decision, camp

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Speaker 2: leaders claimed that Achmad was a useful contributor to the

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Speaker 2: camp and a personal friend, and that the accusations were false,

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Speaker 2: despite his openly violent and misogynistic attitude towards Pink and

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Speaker 2: other campers.

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Speaker 3: Guys, the.

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01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:04,960
Speaker 2: Horror here is that this woman was sexually abused and

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Speaker 2: everyone looked the other way. But we have seen this

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01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:16,720
Speaker 2: pattern before. We've seen this in New York. Do you

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01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 2: remember Eric Schneiderman, former New York Attorney General for women,

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01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 2: accusing him of physical and sexual abuse and past relationships.

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01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:30,880
Speaker 2: And one of those women acknowledged that she wanted to

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01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 2: say something about it, she wanted to go to authorities

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01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 2: about it, and other Democrats because this guy was a Democrat,

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01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 2: said hey, listen, we need him.

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Speaker 3: He's going to run for higher office. We need it.

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01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:46,720
Speaker 3: You can't do that. They're all about standing up for women.

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Speaker 2: Right until it affects their politics, or their relationships, or

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01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 2: their friendships or their opportunities. And then oh no, you

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01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:55,600
Speaker 2: got to take a say, you know, stay quiet. And

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Speaker 2: by the way, your skirt was probably too short. This

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01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 2: is a known thing that happens. And one could argue

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01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:05,559
Speaker 2: that the idea of hey, you don't want to make waves,

1441
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 2: happens on every side of the aisle, make all the waves.

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01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 2: You don't deserve to be sexually abused. But you think

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01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 2: these chazz chop blz areas, you think these people are

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01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 2: good people, They're not good people. This is abusive. I

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01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:27,600
Speaker 2: organized a lot of tea party events. A lot of

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01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:31,160
Speaker 2: tea party events I organized back in the day. Thousands

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Speaker 2: of people, hundreds of people, tens of people. No one

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01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:37,479
Speaker 2: ever made a claim like this. Mostly the claim is

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01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:40,880
Speaker 2: what no snacks, wasn't this because.

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01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:41,560
Speaker 3: That ain't what we do.

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01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:47,880
Speaker 2: You had people killed in the chaz Chop raped there

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Speaker 2: in the Birmingham Liberated Zone.

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01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:52,559
Speaker 3: Maybe the left should learn that you want to stay

1454
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:53,360
Speaker 3: away from these things.

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01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:58,719
Speaker 2: Maybe you're on the wrong side with wrong, bad people

1456
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:00,599
Speaker 2: who want to do better things.

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01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:03,560
Speaker 3: Maybe some people think it's culturally acceptable.

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01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:08,200
Speaker 2: Whatever is going on, we're gonna notice, and you need

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01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:10,639
Speaker 2: to make sure you steer your kids and your friends

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01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 2: far away from this craft.

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Speaker 3: I've got more with Noah Rothman and whether or not

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Speaker 3: social media is influencing our politicians. Keep it here. It's

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Speaker 3: Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 2: So how much pressure does social media put on our politicians?

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Speaker 3: Do they move the needle?

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Speaker 2: Because what I'm seeing from what I will call the GLC,

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01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:35,240
Speaker 2: the groper loser class, is that it seems to be

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Speaker 2: a lot. But why is anybody listening to social media?

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Speaker 2: Social media?

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Speaker 3: Real life?

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Speaker 2: Tony Kats Tony Kats Today. Noah Rothman continues with me

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Speaker 2: from Nationalreview dot com. Be sure to check out his

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Speaker 2: latest book, Blood and Progress, Essentially of left wing violence,

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Speaker 2: available at Amazon dot com.

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Speaker 3: Wherever fine books are sold.

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Speaker 2: Starting in May of twenty twenty six, the Quinnipiac poll

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Speaker 2: you had pointed.

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Speaker 3: Out to me earlier. I'd like for you to take

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Speaker 3: a moment and go through just a little bit of

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Speaker 3: what it is.

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Speaker 2: Those findings are about this difference between where maybe Maga

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Speaker 2: is and where well, some of these other people are.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 16: So we have a lot of polling on this on

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Speaker 16: this war so far, and each of those polls find

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Speaker 16: this conflict to be unpopular.

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Speaker 5: We should be honest about that at the outset.

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Speaker 16: And I'm sympathetic to why the president and this administration

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Speaker 16: did not enlist the American.

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Speaker 5: People in what is a national project.

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Speaker 16: It did not solicit their support, and it did not

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Speaker 16: prep them for the sacrifices that they would have to

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Speaker 16: make in order to ensure an outcome that the American people,

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Speaker 16: according to polling again, have welcomed for the better part

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Speaker 16: of two generations, which is the collapse of this regime.

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Speaker 16: The American public, in poll after poll, recognized as Iran

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Speaker 16: is a threat to the United States and as long

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Speaker 16: as the war is short. According to CBS News polling

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Speaker 16: within weeks, for example, it's a seventy percent opposition popularity.

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Speaker 16: What the American people don't know is how long this

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Speaker 16: is going to go and what the objectives are and

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Speaker 16: how much is going to be asked of them. And

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Speaker 16: the President didn't trust the American people to put that

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Speaker 16: to them. So I sympathize with those who think that

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Speaker 16: this has not been a very clearly outlined conflict and

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Speaker 16: they don't know what's expected of us, and I don't

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Speaker 16: know where this is going to end, and that trepidation,

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Speaker 16: that uncertainty is leading to trepidation. I mean, even Joe Biden,

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Speaker 16: at the outset of the Russian invasion of Ukraine spoke

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Speaker 16: to the American publican and said, listen, gas prices are going.

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Speaker 5: To go up, and the President should have said that.

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Speaker 16: However, there is an indication, there are many indications from

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Speaker 16: those who court the Internet as though it's a constituency

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Speaker 16: to be wooed, that they seem to think that MAGA

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Speaker 16: as a political entity is up for grabs, that it

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01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:51,719
Speaker 16: can be manipulated and perhaps even co opted.

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Speaker 5: It can't. MAGA is the President's creation.

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Speaker 16: It does whatever he says is good for us, for

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Speaker 16: good for him, and they back it wholeheartedly. They have

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Speaker 16: some the outset of this presidency in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 16: and they continue to do so. And you can cite,

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Speaker 16: for example, NBC news is polling, which has found that

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Speaker 16: eighty nine percent of Democrats are opposed to these strikes,

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Speaker 16: but seventy seven percent of Republicans support them, whereas including

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Speaker 16: ninety percent of self described MAGA Republicans.

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Speaker 5: This is, you know, they're on the outlier.

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01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:25,920
Speaker 16: They're not with the majority of the public fifty four

1528
01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:28,240
Speaker 16: percent of that of whom in that poll do not

1529
01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:31,799
Speaker 16: favor this conflict, but the MAGA right and the GOP

1530
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:35,560
Speaker 16: broadly does, and they do because the president is behind it,

1531
01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:37,360
Speaker 16: and they say that they should be behind it. It's

1532
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:41,599
Speaker 16: as simple as that. And Republicans and influencer types who

1533
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:44,240
Speaker 16: seem to think that there is a different MAGA out

1534
01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:47,560
Speaker 16: there that they can channel, they're may be talking to

1535
01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:52,479
Speaker 16: ten percent at most of this population of pro Trump

1536
01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:55,840
Speaker 16: voters who are trepidacious about this conflict and are willing

1537
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:58,479
Speaker 16: to tell pollsters that they don't support the president.

1538
01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:00,599
Speaker 5: That's department.

1539
01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:04,559
Speaker 16: Maybe they're just not getting polsters the satisfaction of telling

1540
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:06,880
Speaker 16: them that they don't support the president having voted for him.

1541
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:10,800
Speaker 16: In twenty twenty four. That's a real possibility. But how

1542
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:14,760
Speaker 16: many does that constitute as a percentage? A couple of

1543
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:19,000
Speaker 16: percent five, Maybe it's generally not a phenomenon that accounts

1544
01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:21,679
Speaker 16: for a really significant portion of public opinion.

1545
01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 2: So if we're asking ourselves, you know, you make a

1546
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:28,639
Speaker 2: very solid point, one that I agree with that social

1547
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:32,120
Speaker 2: media is not real life, and that in real life

1548
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:35,960
Speaker 2: you see a very different approach here, but you're the

1549
01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:40,920
Speaker 2: ever popular. The approach is based on time. That's a

1550
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:44,040
Speaker 2: newer phenomenon. I don't think if we were to take

1551
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 2: a look at a post Pearl Harbor, Americans saying well,

1552
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:54,439
Speaker 2: I'm in favor of taking out the Imperial Japanese, but

1553
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:54,960
Speaker 2: only if it.

1554
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:55,679
Speaker 3: Takes three months.

1555
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:58,720
Speaker 2: It takes more than three months, I don't know about that,

1556
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:00,800
Speaker 2: although I'm sure there were some people who said those

1557
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:04,840
Speaker 2: kinds of things. So the idea of making the case

1558
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:07,080
Speaker 2: to America is something that I agree with. And the

1559
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:10,080
Speaker 2: President has been very bad at this. Did a bad

1560
01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:13,120
Speaker 2: job with the economy on this conversation, a bad job

1561
01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 2: with tariffs and what they could mean better down the

1562
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:16,960
Speaker 2: road for trade deals.

1563
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Speaker 3: This, that and the other did not sell that well.

1564
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:19,920
Speaker 3: They have not sold it.

1565
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 2: Well, it's the idea that he says it. Everybody buys

1566
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:24,600
Speaker 2: in and that's it, and that's not the way the

1567
01:36:24,640 --> 01:36:29,679
Speaker 2: world works. But if MAGA is behind him ninety percent,

1568
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:32,920
Speaker 2: as you discuss it, which is an overwhelmingly large number,

1569
01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:36,559
Speaker 2: then how does one describe the people who are part

1570
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:40,000
Speaker 2: of the chattering classes in this social media world that

1571
01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:43,000
Speaker 2: get all these clicks and all this attention.

1572
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:47,840
Speaker 3: Is this the groyper loser class, the GLC? What is

1573
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:48,960
Speaker 3: this group of people?

1574
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:56,599
Speaker 16: This now begins to verge on entertainment analysis because we're

1575
01:36:56,640 --> 01:37:00,639
Speaker 16: talking about audience share, which I cannot adjudicate and don't

1576
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:03,640
Speaker 16: have real firm grasp on. But that's what's animating this

1577
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:06,000
Speaker 16: is and you hear them talk about it all the time,

1578
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:08,519
Speaker 16: is they measure themselves relative to the audience of their

1579
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:09,400
Speaker 16: competitors in.

1580
01:37:09,439 --> 01:37:13,040
Speaker 5: The podcast space, as though that matters, as though that.

1581
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:17,000
Speaker 16: Is reflective of political dynamics in America or of geopolitical

1582
01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:19,800
Speaker 16: outcomes on the world stage. But this is the present

1583
01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 16: through which they view the world. And again, the opacity

1584
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:26,200
Speaker 16: of these statistics makes them difficult to analyze.

1585
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:27,919
Speaker 5: But when you talk about the quote.

1586
01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:30,560
Speaker 16: Unquote roiper class, plenty of information out there, and you

1587
01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:32,760
Speaker 16: can go find it yourself about the extent to which

1588
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:38,320
Speaker 16: these numbers are inflated by foreign entities, particular foreign assets

1589
01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:42,840
Speaker 16: that are attracted to this kind of content, and also

1590
01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:47,719
Speaker 16: that are deliberately inflating the numbers, for example Nick Fointes

1591
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:53,439
Speaker 16: and his podcast in order to destabilize the American landscape,

1592
01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:59,800
Speaker 16: discourse landscape, and promote the notion that anti regime, anti administrations,

1593
01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:04,040
Speaker 16: and anti Semitism in particular are on the rise and

1594
01:38:04,280 --> 01:38:08,040
Speaker 16: in fact really relevant political forces in the United States.

1595
01:38:08,120 --> 01:38:10,000
Speaker 16: And I just don't find a ton of evidence for

1596
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:13,559
Speaker 16: that on the ground. It's mostly anecdotal. It is supported, however,

1597
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:17,320
Speaker 16: by pulling like what we've recently discussed. So the burden

1598
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 16: of evidence is really on the podcast types who contend

1599
01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:22,559
Speaker 16: that they're speaking for a silent majority of the public.

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Speaker 16: We just don't see that in the numbers, and I'm

1601
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:27,519
Speaker 16: going to need more data from them to support that

1602
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:30,600
Speaker 16: contention if they're interested in mustering it, which they're not.

1603
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:34,479
Speaker 3: We don't deny that they have numbers.

1604
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:37,760
Speaker 2: You're making the argument of do the numbers translate into

1605
01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:44,400
Speaker 2: anything of legitimacy in the political square, but politics downstream

1606
01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:47,760
Speaker 2: of culture if you have members of Congress who are

1607
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 2: watching these social media and nutters, and by the way,

1608
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:54,000
Speaker 2: I'm very disparaging.

1609
01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:56,519
Speaker 3: They're more than welcome to have their careers, and I'm more.

1610
01:38:56,439 --> 01:38:59,000
Speaker 2: Than welcome to notice the serious issues they're in and

1611
01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:00,400
Speaker 2: they could do the same about me.

1612
01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:02,719
Speaker 3: And the world keeps turning. We'll keep spinning.

1613
01:39:03,400 --> 01:39:06,760
Speaker 2: But if the Josh hawleyes or if the name the

1614
01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:12,599
Speaker 2: other member of Congress is looking to these people Tucker, Meghan,

1615
01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:15,240
Speaker 2: et cetera and saying they're the ones.

1616
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:17,559
Speaker 3: With the big audiences, I got to go make them happy.

1617
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:21,000
Speaker 2: The Steve Bennon set, Steve Bennan is now a speaker

1618
01:39:21,080 --> 01:39:24,600
Speaker 2: at Seapack, the Conservative Political Action Conference. Well, then that

1619
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:28,320
Speaker 2: does indeed politics downstream of cultures. The late Andrew Breitbart

1620
01:39:28,360 --> 01:39:32,280
Speaker 2: would explain, that does create an issue, and I argue

1621
01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:35,280
Speaker 2: that that needs to be pushed back upon with massive

1622
01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:36,080
Speaker 2: levels of force.

1623
01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:40,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, and typically it'll be voters who do the pushback.

1624
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:43,320
Speaker 16: Democrats already went through this, and it would be extremely

1625
01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:47,040
Speaker 16: foolish for Republicans to follow their example. But think back

1626
01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:50,320
Speaker 16: to twenty nineteen and the Democratic primary race in twenty

1627
01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:53,080
Speaker 16: nineteen ahead of the twenty twenty primaries, and it was

1628
01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:56,280
Speaker 16: a contest between everybody, including Joe Biden to a lesser extent,

1629
01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:59,800
Speaker 16: although much lesser extent, was a competition to be the

1630
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:03,479
Speaker 16: most woke, the most progressive, the most outlandish in support

1631
01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:07,560
Speaker 16: for policies that the American public would never support, and

1632
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:10,200
Speaker 16: they did so knowingly because they were courting the Internet

1633
01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:13,560
Speaker 16: as a constituency. The Internet was four square behind the

1634
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:17,519
Speaker 16: Green New Deal, free college for everyone, universal basic incomes

1635
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:21,519
Speaker 16: for everyone, dei as the load star of the United States,

1636
01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:24,960
Speaker 16: sluffing off meritocracy as a vestage, a vestige rather of

1637
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:27,839
Speaker 16: the Enlightenment, so on and so forth. Every illegal immigrant

1638
01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:31,479
Speaker 16: should get driver's licenses and visas, and the border should

1639
01:40:31,479 --> 01:40:36,360
Speaker 16: be open. It was just a festival of self incrimination

1640
01:40:37,479 --> 01:40:40,360
Speaker 16: in ways that a lot of those elements did not

1641
01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:43,120
Speaker 16: recover from. Defund the police is now something that you

1642
01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:46,720
Speaker 16: hang around Democratic candidates like a millstone, whereas it was

1643
01:40:46,760 --> 01:40:50,560
Speaker 16: something that everyone endorsed in twenty nineteen, again with the

1644
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:53,040
Speaker 16: limited exception of Joe Biden, who came, by the way,

1645
01:40:53,200 --> 01:40:58,480
Speaker 16: who came from behind in South Carolina to emerge victorious

1646
01:40:58,600 --> 01:41:02,200
Speaker 16: in that primary contest. So the far left, which is

1647
01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:06,040
Speaker 16: represented far left and usually monochromatically white, we should be

1648
01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:10,320
Speaker 16: clear about was attracted to that sort of thing. Whereas

1649
01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:13,760
Speaker 16: the majority of the Democratic Party, it's Hispanic voters, it's

1650
01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:18,040
Speaker 16: African American voters, and its older voters, were not as

1651
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:21,040
Speaker 16: attracted to these ideas, and they demonstrated that they had

1652
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:24,840
Speaker 16: very little purchase among even Democratic constituencies over the course

1653
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:28,360
Speaker 16: of that season. That those lessons are being lost on Democrats,

1654
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:31,000
Speaker 16: but apparently they're being lost on the Republicans too, because

1655
01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:34,200
Speaker 16: if they were to if these Republicans who perceive of

1656
01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:36,639
Speaker 16: themselves as having a future in twenty twenty eight or beyond,

1657
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 16: think that the most the most radical position is the

1658
01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:43,760
Speaker 16: ascendant position. It may not be now, but in the

1659
01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:48,080
Speaker 16: future it will be the position which the political careers

1660
01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:50,560
Speaker 16: will rise and fall on the right. They're going to

1661
01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:52,800
Speaker 16: place their bets now, and those could be really bad bets.

1662
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:56,200
Speaker 16: I think Josh Holly is placing a really risky gamble

1663
01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:59,080
Speaker 16: on the notion that this war is ultimately a failure

1664
01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:02,920
Speaker 16: and if it proceeds a pace that he can come

1665
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:05,640
Speaker 16: back and say I called it here, I said that

1666
01:42:05,720 --> 01:42:07,559
Speaker 16: we should be over with it here, and the fact

1667
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:08,920
Speaker 16: that we were not meansay they don't.

1668
01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:11,280
Speaker 5: Listen to me, so you should trust my judgment. It's

1669
01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:13,400
Speaker 5: a it's a big gamble, and I'm not sure it's

1670
01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:14,240
Speaker 5: going to be a winning one.

1671
01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:19,479
Speaker 2: And so everyone understands what you just said. That Senator

1672
01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:22,800
Speaker 2: Josh Hawley is calling this a failure. That's what I

1673
01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:24,200
Speaker 2: think he said on Fox.

1674
01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:25,160
Speaker 5: Calling jailures.

1675
01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:27,960
Speaker 16: He's setting the stage to call it a failure, correct,

1676
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:30,200
Speaker 16: so he can say I said this was a victory here,

1677
01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:33,000
Speaker 16: and we could have had a victory, and we've sacrificed him.

1678
01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:34,840
Speaker 2: So I just taken a step further. I think in

1679
01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:37,680
Speaker 2: how he couch get what you get out now, I

1680
01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:39,160
Speaker 2: think he is engaging the.

1681
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:42,200
Speaker 3: Idea of failure. He's saying that this is the most

1682
01:42:42,280 --> 01:42:43,400
Speaker 3: we can do, the best we can do.

1683
01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:46,080
Speaker 2: Let's get out before it's too late, as opposed to

1684
01:42:46,439 --> 01:42:48,719
Speaker 2: why would we ever think it's too late, Why don't

1685
01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:49,880
Speaker 2: we just do the job.

1686
01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:53,400
Speaker 3: It is saying that we aren't capable. That's my take

1687
01:42:53,479 --> 01:42:53,640
Speaker 3: of it.

1688
01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:56,439
Speaker 2: And that's where I think the larger scale problem is

1689
01:42:57,000 --> 01:42:59,840
Speaker 2: I'll get called a warmonger. Doesn't matter what I'm called.

1690
01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:02,519
Speaker 3: What matters is is that I want to finish the

1691
01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:03,639
Speaker 3: job and then go home.

1692
01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:06,439
Speaker 2: So I don't have to come back to this eighteen

1693
01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:09,080
Speaker 2: months from now or three years from now, or four

1694
01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:11,760
Speaker 2: years from now or four days from now. And I

1695
01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:15,360
Speaker 2: think that we have a serious issue that if we

1696
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:19,200
Speaker 2: have Republicans who are taking their cues from social media,

1697
01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:23,920
Speaker 2: we can't actually engage any level of victory because I

1698
01:43:24,160 --> 01:43:25,880
Speaker 2: again I saet afraid of winning.

1699
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:27,559
Speaker 3: I don't think that's what they want.

1700
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 2: I say that they would rather take this loss by

1701
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:35,479
Speaker 2: a thousand cuts, this death by a thousand cuts, then

1702
01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:38,360
Speaker 2: deliver one punch to stop those people from cutting us.

1703
01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:43,200
Speaker 2: And I think it's a real philosophical breakdown in these

1704
01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:46,840
Speaker 2: people that somehow this concept of forever wars means just

1705
01:43:46,960 --> 01:43:47,559
Speaker 2: take punches.

1706
01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:50,360
Speaker 3: We're big enough, we can handle it. It's possible.

1707
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:56,160
Speaker 16: On the upside, however, I'm reasonably sure that Senator Hawley

1708
01:43:56,200 --> 01:43:59,679
Speaker 16: at least will abandon this position if the campaign looks

1709
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:01,759
Speaker 16: like a success moving forward.

1710
01:44:01,840 --> 01:44:04,240
Speaker 5: You know, there's no hope for Rand Paul. He's a

1711
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:04,800
Speaker 5: true believer.

1712
01:44:05,080 --> 01:44:07,080
Speaker 16: But I don't think Josh Holly really genuinely believes what

1713
01:44:07,120 --> 01:44:09,920
Speaker 16: he's saying. He's trying to seek political advantage, and he'll

1714
01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:12,800
Speaker 16: amend his position in order to find political advantage in

1715
01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:15,400
Speaker 16: the conditions that he doesn't anticipate. If there's some sort

1716
01:44:15,400 --> 01:44:18,000
Speaker 16: of a much more robust victory, a much more an

1717
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:20,120
Speaker 16: ambiguous victory in the near.

1718
01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:22,320
Speaker 5: Future, Josh Holly will take credit for that too.

1719
01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:27,040
Speaker 16: And nobody will remember the comments that were made here, unfortunately,

1720
01:44:27,120 --> 01:44:30,439
Speaker 16: because there should be accountability for them. But he could

1721
01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:32,479
Speaker 16: end up being pressent. You know, we should say that

1722
01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:36,439
Speaker 16: the pressure on the oil market is real. I don't

1723
01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:38,680
Speaker 16: think it's kinetic. I don't think it's military. I think

1724
01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:41,599
Speaker 16: it's mostly market dynamics. But it's real, and it's having

1725
01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:43,800
Speaker 16: a profound impact on the thinking of the political class

1726
01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:47,320
Speaker 16: in Washington, if not the war planners and those in

1727
01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:49,880
Speaker 16: the National Security Council. And you never know how that

1728
01:44:49,920 --> 01:44:51,840
Speaker 16: could unfold. There could be a lot of week spines

1729
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:54,840
Speaker 16: in Washington after a week, So Josh Holly may be

1730
01:44:54,920 --> 01:44:56,640
Speaker 16: a leading indicator and not a lagging one.

1731
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Speaker 3: No Roffman a national review.

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Speaker 2: The new book Blood and Progress, A Century of Left

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Speaker 2: appreciate you taking the time to be with us. More

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Speaker 2: is coming up. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today,

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Speaker 2: and things continue.

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Speaker 3: To rage on in Iran.

1739
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Speaker 2: The US has wiped out an entire class of Iranian warships.

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Speaker 2: Adimal Cooper US Central Command Commander ADAMAL Cooper saying that

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Speaker 2: American forces have taken out the last four of Solomoni

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Speaker 2: class warships. That's an entire class of warships out of

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Speaker 2: the fight. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 3: Good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: We are hitting well into Iran and the US is

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Speaker 2: now warning Iranians to flee the ports.

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Speaker 3: You may want to leave. We are here.

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Speaker 2: The Iranian regime is using civilian ports along the straits

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Speaker 2: and war moves to conduct military operations that threaten international shipping.

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Speaker 2: So the warning is you may want to leave because

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Speaker 2: we're about to handle this son. So I argued that

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Speaker 2: we need to put assets into the straits and engage

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Speaker 2: in protection that way and escort these.

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Speaker 3: Oil tankers through.

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Speaker 2: What is being argued I would take as a response

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Speaker 2: from US Central Command is we're just going.

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Speaker 3: To take these people out where they are.

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Speaker 2: If they aren't in the ports, We're just going to

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Speaker 2: take out the ports, and they're not going to be

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Speaker 2: able to move a maneuver, but by saying this, isn't

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Speaker 2: that giving warning or do you already have a plan

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Speaker 2: for that? And I want to be a reminder to

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Speaker 2: myself and to others as I go over and I

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Speaker 2: discuss what's going on and how we're engaging and these

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Speaker 2: people who seem to not want to go forward and

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Speaker 2: finish the job and they want to an early out.

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Speaker 2: I have stated in public and in private events that

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Speaker 2: the misdirection of this Pentagon has been exceptional. It's a

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Speaker 2: pleasure to have adults back in the room. That's exactly

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Speaker 2: the term I've used. And they have been able to

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Speaker 2: engage misdirection to say we're going to do this, and

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Speaker 2: then they did that. So I'll take everything a little

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Speaker 2: bit step back and see what results. I just want

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Speaker 2: us to finish the job at end the regime and

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Speaker 2: make American life safety the end.

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Speaker 3: Find everything at Tony Katx dot com tomorrow. Everyone can

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Speaker 3: take care