1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: So there's a big protest set to take place the 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: State House on Saturday. I don't know what they're trying 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: to accomplish, though, so let's get to the bottom of it. 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: It's Kennell and Casey said, that's a problem. Yeah, well 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: that's this is always the problem with these people. I 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: don't know what they're trying to accomplish. I'm Rob case 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: is out today. Jam Merritt in for for Casey thirty 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: years in the Indiana Senate. First of all, like I said, 9 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: you spent thirty years in the Indiana Senate. I did 10 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: a protest and you, I'm sure you saw many, many 11 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: many of them over the years. Did a protest ever 12 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: move you on public policy? 13 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if you remember the red 14 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 2: shirt of the teachers. 15 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 3: Angry red shirted teachers. Yes, yes, we had a lot 16 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 3: of fun. 17 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: With them, Yes, and they packed the State House. Didn't 18 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: bother me a bit. 19 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: Know what about your colleagues, Well, I don't know, I 20 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: don't remember it. 21 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 2: I mean, did they have a movement. 22 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: Because you were the number two guy in the Senate, 23 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: which meant you were sort of like the dad of 24 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: the sidate, did some cowardly freshman senator come running into you. 25 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 3: Oh oh, mister mearethy agre read shirted teachers. 26 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 4: There's thousands up there. 27 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 3: We got to do it like idy of that. 28 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: Well, if there was a myster I was a senator 29 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: here and you know what son, and you know, I 30 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 2: don't worry about titles. But no, I don't think any 31 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: even members. Our caucus was so patient and so you know, 32 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 2: a public policy oriented and so tied together that I 33 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: think the only only protests that went through the State 34 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 2: House that bothered our caucus, the Republican Senate Republican caucus 35 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: was RIFFRAM. Oh yeah, and because. 36 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: No, wait wait, wait, just I'm sure most people are 37 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: familiar with this, but just in case some people are not. 38 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: RIFFRA was twenty fifteen. It was the Religious Freedom Restoration Act. 39 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: It was sort of sparked out of this famous case 40 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: about the cake. It can you be forced to bake 41 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: the cake or make the cake for a gay couple? 42 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: And then there was this policy you guys passed about 43 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: people can object to or not do things based on 44 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: their religious you know, belief system. There was absolutely no 45 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: I mean I shouldn't say no, but there was very 46 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: little media attention to this thing during debates, discussion, It 47 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: went on for months. 48 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: Nothing, nobody protests, nobody, nobody testified against it, and committee. 49 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 3: It passed, passed. 50 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: Then people lost their mind boom, and then Mike Pence, 51 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: because he's an idiot, went on George Stephanopolis and totally 52 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: melted down on national television. 53 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: He also saw the bill signing with what looked like 54 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 2: the last Supper. 55 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like a Saturday Night Live skit, yes 56 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: on his bills on Yeah. I mean they handled it well, 57 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: that's because look at the people Pence surrounded himself with, 58 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: just like Braun, they had no idea what they were doing. 59 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: And then this thing becomes this national attention that all 60 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: these conventions were threatening to pull out and leave it. 61 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: You guys totally cave, by the way, Merritt, you totally 62 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: gave in, and you did some fix that didn't fix anything, 63 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 1: and most people said made it worse. 64 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, thanks for your service, and you know we 65 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 2: did cave. And and you can say that blatantly right 66 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: now and and back then. In Napolis in my lifetime 67 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 2: has been built on convention, built on groups meeting here 68 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: in largeness and that and that's really why we have 69 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: flourished along with you know, the sports activities. But uh 70 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 2: it back then we saw the NBA All Star be 71 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: a game being taken out of Charlotte because of what 72 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 2: North Carolina did, and and the the the Chamber commerce, 73 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: the business community, everybody was tagging onto us and uh 74 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: and and we responded, and we had a trailer bill 75 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: we signed it, and and and and the governor signed it. 76 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: Uh and it just really took us by surprise. And 77 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 2: we've had twenty five thousand people walking through that State 78 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: House and didn't bother us a bit. 79 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: Yes, but that was another look you know, I love you, 80 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: But that was because you guys were afraid of the 81 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: business impact of this, not because people were protesting you guys. Absolutely, 82 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: it had nothing to do with the lunatics on the lawn. 83 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: It was because these business groups, the trade association whatever came. 84 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 3: To you and we're like, we're pulling out unless you 85 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 3: guys fix this. 86 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: It all revolves around Monday, like everything else. 87 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 3: Thank you very good. 88 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: Okay, So I mentioned all of this because this No 89 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: King's protest is going on Saturday on the lawn at 90 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: the State House. Now, they had one of these earlier. 91 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 3: This year. 92 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: It drew about four thousand people, according to Indie Star 93 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: was the estimate. It's noon to three this Saturday on 94 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: the south lawn of the State House. But I don't 95 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: understand what they're trying to accomplish and who they're And 96 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: it seems like this happens with a lot with the left, 97 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: Like were you having recently put together a rally which 98 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: ultimately we were lied to and ignored in the order 99 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: in which was received. But we put a thousand people 100 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: in the State House. So we felt pretty good going 101 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: out of there because the governor rolled up and sleeves 102 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: and said, I'm with you right like we. 103 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: Were playing to an audience of one. 104 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: And he responded, and we thought, Okay, we're trying to 105 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: get something done here. I don't know what these people 106 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 1: are screaming about or what they expect Indiana to do 107 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: about it. 108 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and just be cleary. I get text a lot 109 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: after State House happenings. People angry with me. Now they're 110 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: angry with me that I'm on here with you. 111 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: Just your mere existence in my present. This is let's 112 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: pause for a second. This you have ruined my life. 113 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: So Jim and I, this is a real reset this. 114 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: Jim and I have been working together for about nine 115 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: years now, right, And I showed up in Gym's or 116 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: but I had a nightly It wasn't Community Affairs, but 117 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: it was really based around like it was. 118 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: It was not this show. 119 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: It was I interviewed people, newsmakers, public policy people on 120 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: a on a station in Hendricks County. It was very 121 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: popular in the county, which how I ended up here. 122 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: But it was not the rather intense version of program 123 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 1: that we have here each day that is so beloved. 124 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: And you were doing I think this was the Lifeline 125 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: law something related to that, and I had I had 126 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: emailed Jim and I said, I'm very interested in this. 127 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: I'd like to interview you. You said, well, sure, come 128 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: on down to the State House. 129 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 2: But in reality reality, I was saying, m. 130 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it all went south for you. 131 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: That and when you let you somehow finagled so that 132 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: I got into the Governor's office. 133 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was that was the day of the 134 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: state of the state. 135 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 5: Yea. 136 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: But anyway pointed all this is uh, I find that 137 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: fascinating that your mere existence with me is enough to 138 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: enrage people that they send you derogatory messages. 139 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and I'm constantly being corrected, and you know 140 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 2: in life, in on the radio, but I'm told Riffra 141 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 2: originally came out of a case for a guide to 142 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 2: be able to smoke peote as a part of a 143 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: religious ceremony. 144 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 6: I never heard that in any of the knew that either, 145 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 6: and you were there did at any point at any point? 146 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 6: Did Brian Bosma or David Long stand up ago? 147 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 3: Now this is about a man being able to smoke peyote? 148 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 2: No, But you know, back to the Kings folks. Uh, 149 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: you know the reason, the reason why your protest went 150 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: over so well is number one, you promoted it. Yeah, 151 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 2: you were clear with the message. You you you gathered, 152 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: you had signs, you made noise, you had you had 153 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: a thousand people there. But you also did it when 154 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 2: you knew the governor was in town, right, and the 155 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: legislature was there. Every everything worked together on a fabulous 156 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: presentation that you and Casey and whoever else gave and 157 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: and the governor spoke. I mean, it all fell together well, 158 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: and I'm surprised you got this done because of you. 159 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: Well, here's what here, So here's what happened that day. 160 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: And look we'll give credit. This was back when he 161 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: actually gave a damn Micah helped with that, and you 162 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: need people on the inside of the question, so he 163 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: gave the facade of helping. And then of course than 164 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: he had to start doing work in that one. Go 165 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: work out. 166 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: If you're going to have a protest, you've got to 167 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,679 Speaker 2: have people working on inside the limestone and the Kings don't. 168 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and with Braun, he thought there are going to 169 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: be ten people there and he turned around that corner 170 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: that I'm onna go and wave and leave, and he 171 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: saw those people and he got all caught up in 172 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: the moment. The thousand people were cheered and chant he 173 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: rolled up and slaved and blah blah blah. But this 174 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: is the point, right, what's the focus of this? And 175 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: it brings me to this is the problem with the 176 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: Democrat Party. What's his face that most of these people 177 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: are directly affiliated with the far many of them, many 178 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: of them with the far left of the Democrat Party. 179 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: What are you screaming about? And what do you want 180 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: these people in the General Assembly to do? Because all 181 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: you're doing now is you're sort of just tainting your 182 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: ability to get actual public policy done. That these people can. 183 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: Well, it goes back to two thousand and seven when 184 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: everybody is protesting property tax issues. And they pointed at 185 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 2: Mayor Bart Peterson who had not really relatively nothing to 186 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: do with party taxes and proper tax reform, but they 187 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 2: carried it and and made you had you have to 188 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: have an object, you have to have a goal. And 189 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: and Mayor Pearson loses and and I was I was 190 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 2: part of that campaign, and and you just saw it 191 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 2: unfolding and and whatever this King's rally is going to 192 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: be is they don't have an epicenter. They don't have 193 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 2: a focus, they don't have a spotlight. They really don't 194 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 2: have a bad guy. You know, somebody that is is 195 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 2: in there, you know in their ice sighte. 196 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: Well this is about Trump, right, But you're just affirming 197 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: yourself you're not And you're doing a Saturday when nobody's 198 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: there anyway. 199 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: Right. 200 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: That's why when people were like, why are you guys 201 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: doing your protests during the day, Why are you doing 202 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: it on a weekday, Because that's when the people are. 203 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 6: Gonna be there that you're trying to buy motivate, right, Yeah, 204 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 6: and you. 205 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 2: Know we had twenty five thousand people walk through when 206 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 2: we're talking about labor issue in the mid nineties. But 207 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 2: but when when they start taking conventions away from Indianapolis 208 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 2: and riffers the issue. You you, I don't want to say, kay, 209 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: but you count your cards and you put them on 210 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 2: the table and you get the job done to men 211 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 2: to bill, regardless if it had any effect or not. 212 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: We took the steps that needed to take the issue out. 213 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, I know there's a there list 214 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: of bevy of things that're said about and one of 215 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: the local things I think is redistricting, which hey on 216 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: board with that, but doing it on a Saturday afternoon. 217 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: That's not like everybody's thinking about IU football. 218 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 3: And exactly right. 219 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 2: The mindset is, I don't know, to protest, you have 220 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 2: to capture, you have to you know, there won't be 221 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 2: any media there on Saturday. 222 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 3: Well that's the other point you're gonna get. 223 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: And even though those that will show up, which you 224 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: know people will come, but it's Saturday afternoon. It's gonna 225 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: die on a Saturday evening news cycle and then boom, 226 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: we're done and you're back to Monday and. 227 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 2: Talking on this on this radio station this morning. We 228 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: are doing them a favor. Yeah, because I wouldn't have 229 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: never known about it unless it was an issue today. 230 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 3: Well that's what I do. 231 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: Hey, speaking of issues and what we do, Nikki Kelly, 232 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: one of the best in the business from the Indiana 233 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: Capitol Chronicle join us. 234 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 3: Next. 235 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: We will talk about redistricting. We'll talk about this big 236 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: meeting with the borders are coming to talk to the 237 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: General Assembly. We'll talk about all the money that's flowing 238 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: into the state of Indiana. A lot to get to 239 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: It's Kennley Casey Show ninety three WIBC. 240 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 3: Well as years old. There's a lot going on in 241 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 3: the Indiana politics and government. 242 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: And to get to the bottom of as much of 243 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: it as we can, we go to one of the 244 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 1: best of the business. 245 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 3: Joining us now in the WIBC hotline. Nikki Kelly from 246 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 3: the Indiana Capitol Chronicle. Nikki Kelly, Hello, good morning. 247 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: Okay, So let's start with this. This perplexes me beyond 248 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: belief because it appears nobody seems to want it in Indiana, 249 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: yet our legislators won't let it die. That is redistricting. 250 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: Two polls came out this week, both saying the same thing. 251 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: The public is overwhelmingly against this. Have you ever the 252 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: governor slash General Assembly refused to let something go that 253 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: has such a lack of public support. 254 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 5: Well, to be fair, I don't. I think they're willing 255 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 5: to let it go. I think they wanted to just 256 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 5: be quiet and let the time run out. I think 257 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 5: the Trump administration is not letting them let it go. 258 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 5: So that's where the pressure is coming from. I think 259 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 5: if it were up to legislative leadership, they would never 260 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 5: make a quote official decision. It just wouldn't happen. So 261 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 5: I think that's where we're at on that, and the 262 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 5: Trump administration wants, you know, wants them to move forward. 263 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: Okay, so they've been at this for months now, do 264 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: you have a read on this? Do they just not 265 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: have the votes? Is that why they're not going forward? 266 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 5: My understanding is that the Senate probably, I mean the 267 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 5: House easily has the votes and maybe not easily, but 268 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 5: they have the votes. The Senate does not. And the 269 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 5: key though, is in the Senate at least. Is it's 270 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 5: one thing to say no behind closed doors, but if 271 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 5: if the governor would go ahead and call a special 272 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 5: session without waiting for the go ahead, so to speak, 273 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 5: from legislative leaders. I mean that would put some people 274 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 5: on the spot to actually have to vote no in public, 275 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 5: and I think that's a much harder thing than to 276 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 5: just you know, take a private whip count and they 277 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 5: would have to stand by that no. And also, you know, 278 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 5: I've heard that there's some threats I guess is the 279 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 5: right word of, you know, primiering people who don't go 280 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 5: along with this and or supporting people who do through 281 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 5: a war chest. 282 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: So there, whether if it's four or five public polls 283 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: now that have come out, they've all basically shown the 284 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: same thing, which is the public is against us, and 285 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: by pretty wide margins. 286 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 3: It sort of varies depending on the poll. 287 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: Have you been able to sort of parse to that 288 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: on why the public isn't supportive of redistricting? 289 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 5: I mean, not anymore than just talking to people at 290 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 5: rallies and things like that. I mean, I think I don't. 291 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 5: We can't find a time at least no one's given 292 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 5: one up. And I tried to go through the history. 293 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 5: We've certainly found redistrictions that happened late that they didn't 294 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 5: do until later. But I don't I think it would 295 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 5: be unprecedented that we do it early at least in 296 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 5: modern history. And so I think that alone is putting 297 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 5: people off, that, you know, and also the fact that 298 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 5: they can't I guess, you know, distill a reason other 299 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 5: than pure politics. I mean, that's literally all it is. 300 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the other thing. 301 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: You've been doing this for what twenty five years now 302 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: or more. Do you ever remember a time where they 303 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: just straight up admitted I mean this the like Andrew 304 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: Ireland State Rep. 305 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 3: Has admitted it. 306 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: Braun obviously is admitted there just doing it because of politics. 307 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: Do you ever remember just an ended mission from the leaders, Yeah, 308 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: we're just doing this for politics. 309 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 5: No, but I mean, redistricting kind of is all about politics. 310 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 5: So it's kind of hard to get around that. And 311 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 5: there was a great story that State Affairs Indiana did 312 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 5: recently where they pulled all the quotes from leaders, quotes 313 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 5: from press releases, from hearings, from press conferences about how 314 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 5: wonderful these maps are from twenty twenty one, and so 315 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 5: it's fascinating. You know, it's going to be very hard 316 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 5: for the for Bray in Houston, especially especially after this 317 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 5: complete silence for months now, to come out and just somehow, 318 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 5: you know, full throatedly get on board. 319 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: Niki Kelly from the Capitol Chronicle is our guest. The 320 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: other big event this week, Tom Holman, he's the borders 321 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: are for Trump. He was in town, gave a speech 322 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: to the Indiana General Assembly. Todd Rakeita was there. What 323 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: was his goal on this? What was the goal of this? 324 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: Because Indiana seems like it's already a pretty supportive state 325 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: of all the Trump immigration measures. 326 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the goal is just they're they're trying 327 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 5: a new push for this bill that didn't make it 328 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 5: through last year, and they're bringing in big names to 329 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 5: get behind it, to put extra pressure on it. Obviously. Yeah, 330 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 5: Indiana fully behind the situation. We've you know, we've got 331 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 5: we're holding migrants and deportees, we are cooperating with police, 332 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 5: we have you know, been behind everything. But that bill 333 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 5: has a lot in it that goes a lot further 334 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 5: than some lawmakers are ready to go. It would give 335 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 5: the Attorney General's office a lot more power. One small 336 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 5: example is just the you know, the Attorney general can 337 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 5: issue what they cost civil investigative demands, and recently they 338 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 5: issued some down in southern Indiana, a business and a 339 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 5: refugee organization and a judge said, no, this is just 340 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 5: a phishing expedition. I'm not letting this happen. But that 341 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 5: bill would pretty much make it easy because it would 342 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 5: give the Attorney General so much more power. It would 343 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 5: require sheriffs to honor detainer requests. Right now, they're called 344 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 5: detainer requests because it's a request. They are not judicially 345 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 5: approved warrants for arrest. So a lot of sheriffs are 346 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 5: uncomfortable with that. And it has a whole section about 347 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 5: businesses being held accountable for hiring illegal workers. And I 348 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 5: think businesses are fine but being held accountable if they 349 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 5: know it. But the wording in the bill is pretty 350 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 5: you know, it would be very easy to catch businesses 351 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 5: who didn't know. So you know, those are it's a 352 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 5: big bill and they're they're trying to push it agin 353 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 5: this year. 354 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: Well that you just hit the nail on the head 355 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: with this, which is this sort of scene like it 356 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: was a Todd roketa glorified floorsha. Now he hates this 357 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: Liz Brown woman who is the Senator from Fort Wayne, 358 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: who he blames for killing this bill. This almost seemed 359 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: like a very vendetta driven thing geared towards one person, 360 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: and I think you just hit the nail on the head. 361 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: Her thing has been, Hey, there's a whole bunch of 362 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: stuff in here. I want to help with detaining I 363 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: legal immigrants, but there's a lot of bad stuff. She's 364 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: got to start doing a better job of explaining this. 365 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: So they're going to take her down. 366 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, And everyone's focusing on Liz Brown, and that's fair. 367 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 5: She's the chairwoman and she made the decision. But let's 368 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 5: be clear. If rod Ray and the Senate Republican Caucus 369 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 5: wanted that bill, he would simply moved it to another committee, 370 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 5: as he has done in the past with bills that 371 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 5: Liz Brown blocked. And they didn't choose to do that, 372 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 5: And I assume that's because they had some internal caucus 373 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 5: discussions and decided not to move forward with it. 374 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: Nicki Kelly from the Indiana Capitol Chronicle is our guest. 375 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 1: Couple of minutes left with her. Now, you guys had 376 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: a big I think you were actually the writer on 377 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: this reporter on this that somehow they were way off 378 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 1: on revenue. They did a panic attack at the end 379 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: of the legislative session because they said the revenues were 380 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: going to be way down, cut a bunch of things, 381 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: raised taxes, and now you guys are reporting, Hey, they 382 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: did really well the first quarter. 383 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know, look, I revenue predicting is you know, 384 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 5: way out of my baiywick. But yeah, they dropped the 385 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 5: revenue projection so much that now it looks like, oh, 386 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 5: everything's great because I think maybe the revenue forecast team 387 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 5: and it is a bipartisan team, and there's economic outlooks 388 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,959 Speaker 5: and things like that, very complicated stuff, but you know, 389 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 5: maybe the economy didn't go down as much as they thought. 390 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 5: So now yeah, we're coming in above which is great. 391 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 5: You know, a couple hundred million, which to real people 392 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 5: is a lot, but to do a twenty billion dollar budget, 393 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 5: you know, it's a small amount. But hopefully maybe if 394 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 5: the next quarter goes well, you never know, maybe the 395 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 5: executive branch can stop laying people off or something. 396 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: One of the best in the business finder over at 397 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: Indiana Capitol Chronicle dot Com, Nikki Kelly. 398 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 5: Thank you all right, you guys have a good day. 399 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you. It's Kennell Casey Show ninety three WIBC. 400 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: So there is massive money flying into the Secretary of 401 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: States race on both sides and I want to get 402 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: to the bottom of this. But first we had a 403 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: big announcement during the last segment or commercial break, we 404 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: found out Jim Merritt's a Jackson Brown fan. 405 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I yah, welcome to the family. 406 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: You know, if he had anything about money, maybe Kevin 407 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 2: would would have because bo Bai is all about money 408 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 2: right now. 409 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 3: Yes, so this is very very interesting. 410 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: Of course, Diego Morales the current Secretary of State, he's 411 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 1: raised already over a million dollars. And look, he's been 412 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: very good at handing out contracts from his office and 413 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: those people were very nice to return in many cases sizeable. 414 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 3: Donations to his to his works. Has probably a big 415 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 3: coincidence there. 416 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's going to be a high profile race 417 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 2: next year, no question about it. 418 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: But it now comes out our old Pala Indie reporter 419 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: amongst others, have been all over this, that Bobai and 420 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: what he's been at it a couple of weeks already 421 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: has raised more than five hundred thousand dollars already, just 422 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks. That's not even tapping into 423 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: is of course, his his father was Evan. 424 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 2: Is getting the old band together well. 425 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: That's you know, he had what a million dollars or 426 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: whatever left in his campaign account from when he ran 427 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: for Senate the last time. 428 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 2: I think it is a lot more than that, was it? 429 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 3: Okay? Yeah, So the I mean he hasn't even into. 430 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 2: That six million. 431 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: So so point on all of this is there's going 432 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: to be probably, I mean, you know, we've got a 433 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: ways to go on this, but there could be well, 434 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: well in excess potentially of seven or eight million dollars 435 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: spent on this secretary of state's race next year in 436 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: the state of India. 437 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 2: I think that I think I think that is not 438 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: a bold prediction. I think that is exactly right. I 439 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 2: think it's going to be more than that. You know, 440 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 2: the Democrats back then and when Evan was running for 441 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 2: Secretary of State was we're just looking for a beachhead 442 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 2: to start fundraising for him to run for governor. It's 443 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: the same thing here. They're trying to figure out how 444 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 2: to break the Republican clinch on Indiana, and bo Bay 445 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 2: is their tool. 446 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: Well, so that's what's fascinating about this to me, because 447 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: you know, whether you're deeply interested in Indiana politics maybe 448 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: the way we are or not you need to be 449 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: interested in this race because there's like so many things 450 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: that will happen as a result of this race and 451 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: the outcome of this race. 452 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 3: And first and foremost, it's sort. 453 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: Of like Custer's last stand for the Democrats. If this 454 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: guy with that name and all this money that he's 455 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: going to raise, if he can't win, the Democrats might 456 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: as well just pack it up as a party and 457 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: just say we're done here. 458 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 2: Well, and also I noticed that a friend of of Evan, 459 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 2: Evan buys, I guess we call him senator by former 460 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: senator by. 461 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 3: Wait, wait, what's what's higher? Are you? Are you governor 462 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 3: or senator? What's the higher? First? 463 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 2: I think I think I think it's senator By. If you, 464 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 2: if you will, Teddy Roosevelt like being called colonel instead 465 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 2: of president, we will. 466 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 3: Call him colonel By. 467 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 2: But if if the forum says senator By, so senator 468 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: is a head of governor, yes, I would think so, 469 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 2: because because that was that was the last office that he. 470 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: Okay, so say, and you know me, I never want 471 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 1: to have bad decora, of course, so we'll call him 472 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: senator by. 473 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 3: Well anyway, yes, go ahead. 474 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 2: But but one of his friends is now employing young 475 00:23:55,400 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 2: bo Bye as a in his law firm, and so 476 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 2: all the group is being reformed and being brought back 477 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 2: together again. And this will be if he raised this 478 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 2: amount of money in just a short amount of time. 479 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 2: He's got plenty left in the tank. His dad's going 480 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 2: to give him a lot of his campaign money. If 481 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 2: not all, Joe Hogsitt, who's like an uncle Debo Mayor 482 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 2: of Indianapolis, will be raising money for him, giving him money. 483 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 2: There won't be a problem with money in this race. 484 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 2: And for a secretary of State's race, which most people 485 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 2: don't know what the Secretary of State actually does, this 486 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 2: will be a ten to fifteen million dollars race, but it. 487 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: Really does put on the other So then this there's 488 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: a second prong of this, which is this is showing 489 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 1: you how important this office actually is. 490 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 3: That people are willing. 491 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: They're not doing it for comptroller, they're not even doing 492 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: it for state treasurer. You're seeing this money flood in 493 00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 1: because of all the things that this office actually controls, 494 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: from elections right to business licensure. And there's a lot 495 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: on the line on who's going to end up running 496 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: this office. 497 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 2: It is a very important office. But Also, I'm sure 498 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: somebody's pulled looking at least the controller, looking at Dan Elliott, 499 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 2: the State treasure and they see Diego which may have 500 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 2: poor we don't know, but poor poll numbers. 501 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: Well, there's two polls that have come out and he 502 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: most people had no idea who the guy was, but 503 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: those who did, he was way underwater those twos. 504 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 2: So you go towards where the weakness is. Also with 505 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 2: the importance of the office as well as the fact 506 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 2: that a boat can run in twenty six if he 507 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 2: should win, which I don't think he will, but should 508 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 2: he win, he's already got the fundraising machine ready, all 509 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 2: ready to go in twenty eight and that's really what 510 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 2: his dad did successfully. 511 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,959 Speaker 1: And then the third part of this at like as 512 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: a political nerd, this just really excites me. But we 513 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: always talk about obviously fifty thousand ish people a day, 514 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: we're talking to a wide variety of people, and why 515 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: they need to care about it even if you're not 516 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: super into politics. But the third thing is that one 517 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: would assume with all of this money that Bobai is 518 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: going to raise or is raising, he will shine a 519 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: light on who Diego Morales is and will attempt to 520 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,239 Speaker 1: if he does this right, indict as many Republicans in 521 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: the process who have either facilitated or at the very 522 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 1: least totally turned a blind eye to all the crap 523 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 1: that Diego Morales has pulled in the very short time 524 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 1: he's been in that office. And it's an opportunity really 525 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: to potentially do some damage to the Republican Party through 526 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: this guy's campaign that may may have may not, but 527 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: it may have a lasting impact. 528 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,959 Speaker 2: But the other on the other side of it is 529 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 2: that the Republican Party will batten the hatches down. They 530 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 2: will support with Diego, with money and with with boots 531 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 2: on the ground. It will it will fortify the Republicans effort. 532 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 2: It's a lot like what happened in Carmel and in 533 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 2: the mayor race. The Republican Party came together because that 534 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 2: city is becoming purple and Mario maslami uh did a 535 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 2: really good job of bringing everybody home and getting getting 536 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 2: out and talking to it, doing the what a party 537 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 2: should do. And this is an opportunity for the party 538 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 2: to coalesce around Diego. Yeah, and you know, and you 539 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 2: know the thing is Diego wins. He might want to 540 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 2: be governor in twenty. 541 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 4: Eight as well. 542 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, but Sue Ingham's just a bad mayor. She not 543 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: a dirt ball like Diego. I mean, it's gonna be 544 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: a lot harder if he's the nominee to coal us 545 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: around that given all. I don't I think Sue Ingham was, 546 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: you know, saddled with any scandals the way that that 547 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: Diego is. I mean, this is the great thing about this. 548 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: Diego can cannot reveal who paid for India. I bet 549 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: the buyers are going to figure out who paid for 550 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: that drive. 551 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 2: My point is is I live in wes Carmel now 552 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 2: and uh Todd Young, who's a very good candidate tied 553 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 2: in my precinct with the Democrat, and and U and 554 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 2: Diego barely want it as a as a county or 555 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 2: as a as a city. My point is is they 556 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 2: had to coalesce everybody behind Sue when she ran for 557 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 2: election as a first time mayor. And that is what 558 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 2: the state's going to have to do as a Republican party. 559 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 2: Come together and and support Diego financially and boots on 560 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 2: the ground, and that's how he beat bo Bai. 561 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: Bobai will be with us tomorrow. That's a big interview 562 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: for him. Yeah, he's got to win people here. 563 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, he does. If he doesn't win Central Indiana, 564 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 2: or if he doesn't win Marion County, big big, big big, 565 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 2: because we know, we know how blue it is. Uh, 566 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 2: he will not compete with Diego statewide. 567 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: But he's got to convince a lot of not just independence, 568 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: but he's got to convince Republicans to vote for him too. 569 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: He can't win it without convincing some people to go. 570 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. And when his dad broke in and was governor, Uh, 571 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 2: the Democrat Party was something that most of the people in 572 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 2: that party were proud of and that had issues and 573 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 2: that that really represented, you know, a moderate standpoint. And 574 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 2: and what you see in the Democrat Party is they 575 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 2: have no issues. They're very leftists, and and they just 576 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 2: don't run good statewide campaigns. And that's why they don't 577 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 2: have any members that are in office right now of 578 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 2: their party. 579 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: All Right, So he'll be with us tomorrow. A little 580 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: promo for that. We'll take a break. Hammer's gonna join 581 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: us next. Kenny Casey Show ninety three WIBC. All right, 582 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: I know you got big plans for this segment, but 583 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: before we get into it, I heard a promo Cats 584 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: is doing something at kill Roy's in Broad Ripple. How 585 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: did Cats get chosen to do something at kill Roy's and. 586 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 3: Broad Ripple rather than Big Tony Kats. Yeah, that's right, 587 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 3: it's Kelly Casey's show. 588 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm Rob Merritt's and for Casey, Jason Hammer, Hello, that 589 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: should have been you, because like, you still go to 590 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: these types of places, even though you're way too old 591 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: to be there. You still try to say hello fellow 592 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: kids and walk into set establishments. I've drank way too 593 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: much at these places. I've dated people who have worked 594 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: at these places. I've checked all the. 595 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 6: Boxes and being the host that should go to these places. 596 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 2: Just think twenty years from now, Olivia is gonna be 597 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 2: in these places. 598 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 6: Is not going to be anything places Jim Merritt, She's 599 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 6: gonna be locked her room. 600 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 2: This sounds familiar. 601 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 6: You know what I thought was really entertaining was a 602 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 6: couple of segments ago. You guys just giving each other crap. 603 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 6: You know, Rob's giving you crap on your voting record. 604 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 6: You're giving it right back because of how unlikable and 605 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 6: fugly he is. 606 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 4: It's perfect. 607 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,959 Speaker 6: So I wanted to continue this because I think this 608 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 6: is what the people want. Oh, so here's what we're 609 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 6: gonna do here. In just a moment, I'm gonna put 610 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 6: thirty seconds of the clock. It's a clock with a 611 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 6: buzzer at the end. That's exactly thirty seconds. Mister Merritt, 612 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 6: do you believe you could roast Rob Kendall for thirty 613 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 6: seconds NonStop? 614 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 2: He is a limited material. 615 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: Yes, no way, he's too nice. There's no way he 616 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: can do it. He's too nice. I don't believe he 617 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: can do it. 618 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 4: Let's find out, all right, here we go, when we 619 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 4: start the clock. Begin, Okay, Kevin, hit it. 620 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 2: Rob. You have no friends, You've got Rob, You've got 621 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 2: fake hair, Yes, go go Rob? You you you really 622 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 2: have no life other than what you're a terrible dad. 623 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 6: Horrible dad, hand mac and cheese. 624 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 2: Your mother dresses you funny. Yes, yes, right, that wasn't bad. 625 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 3: That was good. 626 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: That was much meaner than I thought you had in you. Yes, 627 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: I've never seen him get angry. I like Ned Flanders. 628 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: I've never seen him get angry. 629 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 3: Ever. 630 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 2: You know the customer. You know, when we had my 631 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 2: I've got a son and two daughters, and we had 632 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 2: either girlfriends or boyfriends come through the house, and we 633 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,239 Speaker 2: had Dad's word list and it's words that you just 634 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 2: don't say in our household. Yeah, and if somebody wanted 635 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 2: a copy of the word list to make sure they 636 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 2: didn't say it. If you think it and you think 637 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 2: it's on the list, don't say it. 638 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. It was like, shucks. You want to give that 639 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 3: a shot? I bet you could do. 640 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 6: Okay, Well, I was going to give you dealer's choice, okay, 641 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 6: because I was going to let you do it. 642 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 3: But you can pick your opponent. 643 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 6: It can either be ripping on Merit for thirty seconds 644 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 6: or ripping on me for thirty seconds. 645 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 3: Oh I'm going to take Merit. 646 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 2: Oh okay, you got a lot Hammer's fat. You know. 647 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 3: I just gave you the green light to rip on Rob. 648 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 4: All right, so you're going to do Jim Merritt. 649 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 3: Just remember I love you, Jim. 650 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 2: Oh all right. I should have put that in front 651 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 2: of mine too. 652 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: Kevin hit it, Jim. Your campaign for mayor was a disaster. 653 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: I've never seen a weaker operation. 654 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 2: You're a weaker candidate. 655 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 3: You were awful as a senator. 656 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 6: All the tax increases, have so many people and riffra What. 657 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 3: The hell are you guys? Thinking with that. 658 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 4: Let's go, Jim. 659 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: I can't believe you ever thought you would be governor 660 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: someday and Jim on behalf of Hoosiers everywhere. 661 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 2: Thanks for absolutely nothing I thought you're gonna say, I suck. 662 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 6: Like I could listen to a full show of this 663 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 6: back and you guys like the two old muppets. 664 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 2: That's right now. It's better than being in the in 665 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 2: the balcony with those two old men. All right. 666 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: So you were on the fan earlier today. I heard 667 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: you competing against us. Thanks for doing that. 668 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 6: By the way, well somebody's got to bring some revenue 669 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 6: into this joint. 670 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 3: WHOA. 671 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: So you go on the fan, our sister station, the Fan, 672 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: the sports talk station every every Thursday, right. 673 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 4: Yes, and promoting the Degenerates next Door podcast and we 674 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 4: talk a little Thursday night football. 675 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 6: Now tonight we've got a couple old dudes in the spotlight, 676 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 6: Aaron Rodger, Yeah, and Joe Flacco. And I made the 677 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 6: comperia on the fan this morning that tonight for Joe Flacco. 678 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 6: I'm calling this the old guy at the bachelor party game. 679 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 6: Now here's what I mean by this. 680 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 4: Follow me here. 681 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 6: When you're at a bachelor party like you think it's 682 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 6: you and your buddies and maybe your frat bros friends 683 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 6: from high school. 684 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 4: You guys are going to be the ones. 685 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 6: Getting crazy, But the real reality is anybody that's been 686 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 6: to a bachelor party knows. 687 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,280 Speaker 4: It's the dads. It's the uncles. 688 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 6: They're the ones getting loose cause it's their night out. 689 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 6: They don't go out as much as you guys do, 690 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 6: so they're buying the drinks. Sure, they're buying the shots, 691 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 6: They're doing the dances like this is their night out. 692 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 6: So they're the ones you want to hang out with, 693 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 6: which brings me to Joe Flacco tonight. Joey Flax probably 694 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 6: didn't think he'd be. 695 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 4: In this position, right, He was going to be a 696 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 4: backup or maybe out of the league. 697 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 6: But here he is tonight, starting at home on national television. 698 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 6: This is the old guy at the bachelor party. He's 699 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 6: not going to have many more opportunities. This is his 700 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 6: night out, so he's going to try to put on 701 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 6: a show and keep an eye on some points. 702 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 1: Tonight, Marrett throwing around the yard, Merrit, You ever got 703 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: super liquored up in public before? 704 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 2: Never? Never what I thought it was. In truth, I 705 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 2: thought you're gonna say, is Dad's weekend and I you. 706 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,240 Speaker 4: The same same philosophy. 707 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: Yes, I can see that now. I would ask this 708 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: to Nigel, but we all know the answer. It's last 709 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: week you post forty. You ever gotten drank more than 710 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: you than you? 711 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 5: Oh? 712 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 4: Last week. 713 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 6: I had a designated driver for the Coaches Tavern show 714 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 6: and let's just say that the coupon. 715 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 2: Lady was not real happy with me. 716 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 3: Oh what, you're embarrassing your family. I don't ever want 717 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 3: to see you. 718 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 4: Get that drunk again. 719 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 6: Like I got these speech where the teeth are clinched, 720 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 6: but you can still hear words. 721 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 3: Coming out what is wrong with you? 722 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: And the impressive thing is she said that to you 723 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: your twenties, in your thirties, and now your forties. 724 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 3: It's over. 725 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 6: And I'm just trying to be consistent. That's what this 726 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 6: marriage is based off of consistency. What are you doing 727 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 6: this afternoon? What's going on? 728 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 4: We've got the biggest stories in Indie. 729 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 6: The dude Jim is going to be my co host 730 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 6: this afternoon and you're going to come by and go 731 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 6: off the rails, all right, James Briggs from The Indies Star, 732 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 6: I go to join us next, he's got a great 733 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 6: column about how much hawk set sucks when it comes 734 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 6: to Thomas, Carl Cook sucks. 735 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 3: Let's Go Baby ninety three WBC