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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: Well, hey there, everybody, good morning, welcome to Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: I of course am not Tony Kats. Tony is off

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Speaker 2: today as this is the most sacred important holiday in

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Speaker 3: I mean that jokingly.

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Speaker 2: But for those who do observe solemnly, I wish you

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Speaker 2: Erica Donald's joining us in just a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 2: She's with the America First Policy Institute doing education policy.

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Speaker 2: Tommy I Yellow from National Taxpayers Union to talk about

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Speaker 2: My good buddy Jerry Rodgers, the editor of Real Clear

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Speaker 2: your ear. I want to say this, had a wonderful

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Speaker 2: sure you were appalled. Thomas Jefferson came from Virginia. Thomas

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Speaker 6: That's why we have launched this coalition and we are

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Speaker 3: Yes, we have overcome.

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Speaker 6: A lot in America, but this is the place where

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Speaker 2: What I appreciate is, you know, you do this work,

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Speaker 6: It does, And it's not just about learning history. It

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Speaker 6: In order to have a vitality as a nation and

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Speaker 6: We have to come together and civic literary see, starting

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Speaker 2: In fact, I would I would dare say that it's

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Speaker 2: Because if we are turned against each other, we cannot

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Speaker 2: So so where are you all going? What's first up?

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Speaker 2: What do you what are you teeing up? And how

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Speaker 3: More about this?

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Speaker 6: Erica, Yes, Pennsylvania is first up. We're almost going in

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Speaker 2: No, it is, it is. It is very exciting, to

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Speaker 6: We will definitely let you know when we come there,

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Speaker 2: Well, Erica, you and your husband are are an amazing

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Speaker 6: Us today, dal thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: It's Erica Donald. She is the Chair of Education Opportunity

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Speaker 3: You go and check that out.

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Speaker 2: America two fifty Civics is the website. I can't tell

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Speaker 7: And this is this is where the Democrats are fighting for.

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Speaker 2: This is exactly what Milton Friedman warned against when he

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Speaker 7: And then one big beautiful build they slowed the growth

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Speaker 7: of vending Medicaid will there will be no reduction to

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Speaker 7: every single year. It's a trillion dollar a year program.

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Speaker 5: But Republicans did is basically they're not.

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Speaker 7: Letting it grow as quickly as it was and with

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Speaker 7: right control before. So the fact that you know, they

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Speaker 7: say that millions of people are going to lose coverage

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Speaker 7: is simply not true. Some people will because they have

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Speaker 7: to get a job. If they get a job, they'll

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Speaker 7: get employee sponsored healthcare, or if they work twenty hours

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Speaker 7: a week and make at a certain level of the

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Speaker 7: federal poverty line, they'll still be eligible for their Medicaid benefits.

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Speaker 3: They simply have to get a.

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Speaker 7: Job and work twenty hours a week, go to school, volunteer,

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Speaker 7: do whatever contribute to society.

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Speaker 5: There'll be no change to their eligibility status.

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Speaker 3: Well, let me let me add to this, Tommy.

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Speaker 2: We're talking with Tommy Ielo. He's a senior director of

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Speaker 2: government Affairs at the National Taxpayers Union NTU dot org.

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Speaker 3: Is is the website, you know, Let's let's be really clear.

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Speaker 2: What we're talking about were emergency appropriations for the Obamacare

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Speaker 2: subsidy that we're only supposed to be a temporary and

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Speaker 2: emergency And let's not forget that, despite the fact that

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Speaker 2: we were told that healthcare premiums were not going to

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Speaker 2: go up, healthcare premiums skyrocketed. Health insurance premiums, I should say,

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Speaker 2: because there's difference between health insurance and healthcare. Health insurance

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Speaker 2: premium skyrocketed as we knew they were going to, as

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Speaker 2: we predicted they were going to. All of this is

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Speaker 2: a mess that has been created by the Democrats, isn't it.

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Speaker 7: You know, when they passed Obamacare at twenty ten, they

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Speaker 7: we call it Opencare.

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Speaker 3: It's supposed to make healthcare affordable.

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Speaker 7: I don't think anyone with the healthcare is affordable right now,

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Speaker 7: and it certainly has had the opposite effect over the

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Speaker 3: No one finds it affordable.

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Speaker 7: And when we talk about these specific Obamacare tax credits

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Speaker 7: that expire at the end of the year, we need

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Speaker 7: to remember a few things. Democrats put it into law

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Speaker 7: that they expire this year, right, They are the ones

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Speaker 7: that wanted it to sunset, and now they want Republicans

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Speaker 7: forty billion dollars a year. That's a lot of money.

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Speaker 7: And yet to see who the tax credits actually benefit.

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Speaker 7: They benefit wealthy people. That's a the Democratic party base.

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Speaker 7: It's these upper middle class people. Now Republicans are the

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Speaker 7: you have people making up to five hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 7: help lower income people.

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Speaker 3: It really makes no sense.

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Speaker 7: We're in this topsy turvy world of politics.

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Speaker 5: It really boggles my.

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Speaker 2: Mind now, it really, it really is amazing how much

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Speaker 2: of this gets, you know, ginned up because the wealthiest,

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Speaker 2: elitist Democrat donors just don't want to do these things,

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Speaker 2: and again they are they are, they are responsible for

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Speaker 2: all of this. I mean, Tommy, what you hear in

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Speaker 2: on this?

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Speaker 5: What you know?

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Speaker 3: You you're I'm not going to not going to sell

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Speaker 3: you by saying you're a DC insider, But what are

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Speaker 3: you hearing?

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Speaker 2: When do you think this is going to go? I mean,

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Speaker 2: folks seem to forget that the Democrats they have a retreat. Listen,

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Speaker 2: you talk about I'm sorry, Tommy, you brought this up, right,

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Speaker 2: you talk about the wealthy, well heeled Democratic donors. Where

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Speaker 2: are the Democrats going Columbus Day weekend for their retreat.

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Speaker 2: They're going up to the California wine country to have

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Speaker 2: this very expensive, very cauchy thing. They've got to end

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Speaker 2: this before they go away to the wine country, right,

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Speaker 2: There's no way? Or do they just simply think the

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Speaker 2: while while the government shut down?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it reminds me so much of Gavin

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Speaker 7: Newsom at the Three Mists of Our French Laundry that

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Speaker 7: costs one thousand dollars just to sit down.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 7: They did that during COVID.

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Speaker 3: They're doing it during a government shutdown.

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Speaker 7: It's really unfortunate.

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Speaker 5: And look, we all want a smaller, more nimble, more.

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Speaker 7: Efficient federal government. We don't think we get there through

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Speaker 7: government shutdown. So, you know, it's very interesting to see

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Speaker 7: the Democrats try and call this the Republican shutdown.

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Speaker 5: They are the ones that voted against you.

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Speaker 7: The same appropriation level just to allow negotiators to continue

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Speaker 7: for another seven weeks. They are the ones that's responsible

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Speaker 7: for this, So you know, that's very frustrating, and I

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Speaker 7: think the American people see through that too. They see

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Speaker 7: the political games and both side trying to blame each other.

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Speaker 7: But I think at the end of the day, the

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Speaker 7: American people realize what's happening is at the faults of

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Speaker 7: the Democrats. So the sooner that they get their ducts

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Speaker 7: in order, hopefully we can get the government reopen, we

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Speaker 7: can get back to the business of negotiating things and

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Speaker 7: just allow people to get back to work.

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Speaker 2: Well, there you go, Tommy, I Yello. How do folks

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Speaker 2: find out more about the good work you guys are

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Speaker 2: doing in the National Taxpayers Union?

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Speaker 7: Sure they can go to NTU dot org for a

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Speaker 7: whole bunch of physical research, or they can follow us

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Speaker 7: on Twitter not ex Twitter or Facebook.

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Speaker 2: And to you there you go at end to you

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Speaker 2: on Twitter, Tommy I. Yello, Senior Director of Government Affairs,

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Speaker 2: enjoy the rest of the Schumer cs to my friend,

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Speaker 2: thank you, take care listen, whill we come back speaking.

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Speaker 3: Of Gavin Newsom, we're going to be oh man.

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Speaker 2: The Democrats seem to not understand that there's this thing

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Speaker 2: called the Internet. Stick with me for a second, guys,

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Speaker 2: there's this thing called the internet, and it is forever

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Speaker 2: in fact landed to me before we go to the break,

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Speaker 2: real quick, yeah, I want you to play this cut

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Speaker 2: number ten Here is one of the one of the

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Speaker 2: Fox News hosts checking uh. Senator Jean Jaheen, play cut

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Speaker 2: number ten, real quick.

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Speaker 11: I haven't heard anybody in my party saying that illegal

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Speaker 11: immigrants should get access to the health insurance Marketsie.

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Speaker 3: I'm so glad you said said.

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Speaker 12: Actually, I have some tape of your Democratic Party members

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Speaker 12: said this on the debate day. So they've all said

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Speaker 12: and let's blame the cliff.

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Speaker 13: A lot of you have been talking tonight about these

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Speaker 13: government and healthcare plans that you proposed in one form

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Speaker 13: or another. This is a show of hands, question and

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Speaker 13: hold them up for a moment. So people can see

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Speaker 13: where's your handed government if your government plan would provide

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Speaker 13: coverage for undocumented immigrants, So.

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Speaker 3: Send it to that.

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Speaker 12: That's a little every member of your party, from moderate

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Speaker 12: to more progressive that have said that in the past.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was from the twenty nineteen Democratic primary debate.

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Speaker 2: Every Democrat on that stage raise their heads. Well, and

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Speaker 2: in a moment we're going to hear from the two

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Speaker 2: different Gavin Newsoms, the Gavin Newsom of twenty twenty two

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Speaker 2: versus the Gavin Newsom of twenty twenty five. I'm Andrew

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Speaker 2: Langer in for Tony Katz. This is Tony Kats today. Well,

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Speaker 2: i am Andrew Langer in for Tony Katz today on

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Speaker 2: this solemn Yam kippor, the most important day in the

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Speaker 2: Underscore Langer. You can also message me while I'm on

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Speaker 2: the air, Facebook dot com slash Andrew Langer Show. And

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Speaker 2: as we're talking about Tommy, you know, we played that

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Speaker 2: clip from Jane Shaheen and apparently Democrats are not aware

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Speaker 2: when you say things they may come back to haunt you.

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Speaker 3: Or we may be able to prove you wrong.

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Speaker 2: So you know, all of this discussion right right now,

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Speaker 2: one of the big issues is the Republicans talking about

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Speaker 2: how the Democrats want to spend billions of dollars in

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Speaker 2: paying for healthcare for not just ill illegal immigrants, but

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Speaker 2: legal immigrants as well. But there is certainly a lot

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Speaker 2: of money that is being spent on illegal immigrants and

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Speaker 2: so and maybe we'll talk more about this in a bit.

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Speaker 2: You know what jade Van said to say.

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Speaker 14: But what I.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate is is Gavin Newsome weighing in this because we

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Speaker 2: were talking about California. We're talking about the fact that

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Speaker 2: the Democrats have this retreat that's supposed to happen next weekend,

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Speaker 2: so not this coming weekend, but Columbus Day weekend. They're

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Speaker 2: all supposed to be up in Napa Valley for some

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Speaker 2: cushy wine country retreat. Here is Gavin Newsom. This is

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Speaker 2: a great clip from Mays Moore m A Z E

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Speaker 2: juxtapositions a little long, but stick with it here. First

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Speaker 2: you have Gavin Newsom in twenty twenty two. Then you

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Speaker 2: have them more recently twenty twenty five, let's play cup thirteen, please.

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Speaker 3: A campaign on universal health care.

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Speaker 15: We're delivering that we are implementing our ideals. We are

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Speaker 15: manifesting us principle, this fundamental notion that so many of

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Speaker 15: us have been preaching for years and years and years,

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Speaker 15: universal health care for all, regardless of pre existing condition,

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Speaker 15: regardless of the ability to pay, and regardless of your

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Speaker 15: immigration status. If you care not just about values and

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Speaker 15: principles of morality, but if your only values and principles

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Speaker 15: are advanced through economics, then that alone should be an

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Speaker 15: argument in favor.

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Speaker 3: It'll just pause healthcare, a pathway and a framework.

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Speaker 2: H just pause sec Point one so you know in

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Speaker 2: that clip, Gavin Newsom is making the moral case for this. Now,

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Speaker 2: I would submit that the moral case is actually a

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Speaker 2: to make sure I've talked about this before, A to

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Speaker 2: make sure that your promises are being delivered on in

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Speaker 2: terms of making healthcare workssible and more affordable. Right, the

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Speaker 2: Democrats have not done that. They have in fact lied

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Speaker 2: to the American people on this, but also the folks

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Speaker 2: who are actually paying for their healthcare that they're getting

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Speaker 2: the sealth care and that they're not being essentially denied

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Speaker 2: healthcare because you want to create a whole new class

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Speaker 2: of folks who are going to vote for you. That's

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Speaker 2: the morality here. But that's cavenus have in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Let's keep going there landon.

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Speaker 15: Million undocumented residents in the state of California to vail

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Speaker 15: themselves to high quality, comprehensive medical care, long term, short

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Speaker 15: term preventative, as well as in home support, service care,

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Speaker 15: and coverage.

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Speaker 16: Now, Newsom says California is facing a twelve billion dollar

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Speaker 16: deficit governor who is proposing freezing enrollment in state funded

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Speaker 16: healthcare for undocumented immigrants.

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Speaker 17: You know, when the program started, it was supposed to

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Speaker 17: cost about three billion dollars a year, and that ballooned

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Speaker 17: to eleven billion here. So the governor is freezing new

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Speaker 17: entries into it and making those who are asking those

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Speaker 17: people who are already in it to pay take a look.

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Speaker 18: We are moving forward with making decisions that not only

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Speaker 18: address the concerns this year related to the one point

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Speaker 18: nine billion, but mindful that we need to tighten things up.

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Speaker 18: We believe that people should have some skin in the

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Speaker 18: to a monthly premium. We are asking for something we

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Speaker 18: ask all taxpayers account.

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Speaker 3: We can end it there. So, but I thought it

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Speaker 2: I thought, at the end of the day, it was

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Speaker 2: a moral issue, Governor, right, Or is it only a

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Speaker 2: moral issue when it doesn't actually cost you anything. That's

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Speaker 2: the problem with empty promises. And we all listen, we

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Speaker 2: all knew.

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Speaker 3: We all knew that.

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Speaker 2: This was not going to cost three billion. As though

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Speaker 2: three billion dollars to pay for the healthcare of folks

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Speaker 2: who are here in legally is okay.

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Speaker 3: It's not.

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Speaker 2: But the fact that it went up another eight to

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Speaker 2: nine billion dollars in California. And can you imagine why

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Speaker 2: it is that California, the California delegation, why the Democrats

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Speaker 2: are fighting so hard for this?

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Speaker 3: They made this mess. And I haven't said this yet

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Speaker 3: on this show in a while, on this show today.

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Speaker 2: It's something I used to say that the most well

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Speaker 2: intentioned policies eventually bump up against very real realities. My

671
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Speaker 2: dad simplified it and said, Andrew, there are many roads

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Speaker 2: to utopia, however, almost traverse the surface of the earth.

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Speaker 2: Intentions aside, this is the reality when you have open

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Speaker 2: borders and you have a massive social welfare state.

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Speaker 3: You will bankrupt the nation in the next hour.

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Speaker 2: Zachary Marshall from Campus Reform, Jerry Rodgers from Real Clear Policy.

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Speaker 2: I'm Andrew Langer. This is Tony Kats Today.

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Speaker 1: Line from dal Heartland and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz Today. Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 2: I am Andrew Langer in for Tony Kats Today on

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz Today. Tony, I think we'll be back tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Obviously taking today off because it is the most holy

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Speaker 2: of holy days in the Jewish calendar.

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Speaker 3: It's see.

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Speaker 2: I'm kidpoor, so I'm glad I could I could fill

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Speaker 2: in for him to excuse me today obviously lots going on.

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Speaker 2: We were talking about Gavin Newsom, and I really want

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Speaker 2: to I really want to turn our attention to the shutdown,

689
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Speaker 2: call it the Schumer shutdown. There's a guy named Sean Farrish.

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Speaker 2: I'm not very familiar with him, and I did make

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Speaker 2: sure I listened to this. Oh, but you to listen

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Speaker 2: actually before we get to this, just so you know,

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Speaker 2: so we got in this hour. Zachary Marshall from Campus

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Speaker 2: perform is going to be joining us in a couple

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Speaker 2: minut's Jerry Rodgers, the editor of Real Clear Policy, also

696
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Speaker 2: joining in this hour, Scotty Hughes, pundit Scotty Neil. He

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Speaker 2: was joining us in the next hour, but this this

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Speaker 2: came across my transom today. I I don't know who

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Speaker 2: Sean Ferish is, but he does a pretty good impersonation

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Speaker 2: of Donald Trump. I what I appreciate about this is

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Speaker 2: he may not look like him, but I think it's

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Speaker 2: it's it's listen I to an impression Donald Trump, who

703
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 2: doesn't these days. But here is Sean Ferish or you know. So,

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Speaker 2: here's a message from the President of the United States

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Speaker 2: on the shutdown. Let's play cut number one.

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Speaker 10: Landon ola me fellow Americano, cebi and donto salcierre de Schumer.

707
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 10: That means welcome to the Schumer shutdown. We call it

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Speaker 10: the Schumer Siesta, right is the Schumer Siesta. He put

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Speaker 10: the government on ciesta crying Chuck and el hakimo. Hefe Jeffries.

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Speaker 10: We used to call him Dallas store Obama.

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00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 3: We realized he's.

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Speaker 10: Worth far less than a dollar. But they put the

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Speaker 10: government on siesta to give illegal aliens your healthcare. We're

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Speaker 10: not gonna let it happen. I looked at both of them.

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Speaker 10: I said, We're not gonna let it happen. It's no boy, now,

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Speaker 10: I said a snowboy.

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Speaker 19: No.

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Speaker 3: They begged me.

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Speaker 10: They said, but signor port for more, please give illegal

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Speaker 10: aliens the healthcare.

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Speaker 3: So we're not gonna do it. We're never gonna do it.

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Speaker 3: It's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 10: And they're also very upset about our big, beautiful sombreros.

724
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Speaker 3: You look at them. These are the greatest sombreros the

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Speaker 3: world has ever seen.

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Speaker 10: We really have the best sombreros, and everybody wants one,

727
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Speaker 10: except crying Chuck and El Jachimo Hefe Jeffreys.

728
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Speaker 3: They'll want one, but they're gonna wear one.

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Speaker 10: With all of a sudden, we're gonna end the siesta.

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Speaker 10: We're gonna reopen the government, and we will not give

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Speaker 10: in to the demands of Chuck and l he Fe.

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Speaker 3: We're not gonna do that.

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Speaker 10: Thank you, God bless you, Diolo Bendiga, and.

734
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Speaker 3: God bless America.

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Speaker 10: Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so thank you for your attention to this matter.

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Speaker 3: I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the sombrerier he's talking about was like

739
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Speaker 2: a traditional straw sombrero, but with a maga hat sewn

740
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Speaker 2: onto there. You know, he's not wrong, and it's one

741
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Speaker 2: of those things where this is what we're fighting about.

742
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Speaker 2: I mean, it really is crazy that this is the

743
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Speaker 2: hill that the Democrats want to want to die on.

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Speaker 2: Actually I don't like using that kind of verbis, but

745
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 2: this is where they're planting their flag on making sure

746
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Speaker 2: that illegals get access to healthcare and sort of sitting on.

747
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Speaker 3: The side of the criminals that are out there.

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Speaker 2: And you know, it's one of those things where normally

749
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Speaker 2: and Byron York was on another radio show today Byron

750
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Speaker 2: York from the Washington Examiner, who wrote some great stuff

751
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Speaker 2: back in twenty thirteen about that shutdown and how really

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Speaker 2: it was only seventeen percent of the government that was

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Speaker 2: shut down. But he's talking about how generally, and some

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00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 2: of this is because about cheerleading in the media, reflexively,

755
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 2: because it's muscle memory, folks instinctively blame Republicans for these things.

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Speaker 2: I think, again, the worm has turned here and by

757
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 2: evidence of this, right, the shutdowns are horrible. You know,

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Speaker 2: you would think that obviously there would be great panic

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Speaker 2: where I am and in the DC area. The very

760
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Speaker 2: democratic government of Maryland was all up in arms about

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Speaker 2: the fact that they're going to be losing seven hundred

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars a day in revenue from taxpayers. Now they're

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Speaker 2: going to get it back at.

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Speaker 3: The other end.

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Speaker 2: But you would think that there would be some if

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Speaker 2: there was truly panic out there, then the markets would react.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's what happened. Let's play cut number two.

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Speaker 20: Stucks shaking off the shutdown, charging higher the S and

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Speaker 20: P five hundred, hitting sixty seven hundred for the first

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Speaker 20: time ever, a new all time closing high for the

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Speaker 20: Dow as well. Fractionally, the NASACI best performed today, but closing.

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Speaker 3: Keesh short of a record.

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Speaker 20: Healthcare once again the best performing sector.

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Speaker 3: That's nice to drugstocks. Utilities also a game right now.

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Speaker 2: I mean not just not just the markets reacting well,

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Speaker 2: but records for the S and P and the Dow

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Speaker 2: yesterday in the wake of this, and so it's it's

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Speaker 2: a it's a situation. It's a circumstance where you know,

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Speaker 2: the Dems don't have a lot of wiggle room here

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Speaker 2: in terms of this, except as we've pointed out right

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Speaker 2: for them. There's an existential issue at work with the

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Speaker 2: with the government employee unions, the American Federation of Government Employees.

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Speaker 2: You know, they rake in about thirty two million dollars

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Speaker 2: a month indus. I mean, it's an astounding figure. You

785
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Speaker 2: never do math on the air. Never do math on

786
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Speaker 2: the air. But thirty two million times twelve, that's what

787
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Speaker 2: over four hundred million.

788
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Speaker 3: Dollars a year.

789
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Speaker 2: That half a billion dollars a year in dues if

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Speaker 2: I'm doing my math correctly. Again, never do math on

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Speaker 2: the air. And so it's it's one of those things

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Speaker 2: where they cannot now listen. They may want this, maybe

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Speaker 2: they're owning it. So we have this this clip, and

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Speaker 2: it's a very strange clip. Democratic Representative shri Thandehar from Michigan,

795
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Speaker 2: and I'm sure I'm mispronouncing it, butchering his name. He

796
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Speaker 2: did a video from Reagan National Airport in DC. And

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Speaker 2: he looks weird.

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Speaker 5: By the way.

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Speaker 2: I don't know anything about this guy. But his ears

800
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: look like his ears, his eyebrows look like they're made up.

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Speaker 2: It's all very strange. But he says the quiet part

802
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 2: out loud. Let's go ahead, Land and play cut number three.

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Speaker 9: Turning back to Detroit this morning after the Republicans failed

804
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Speaker 9: to show up.

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Speaker 8: In the US House.

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Speaker 9: We got to make sure Americans have the healthcare that

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Speaker 9: they need. And if that means you got to check

808
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 9: this government down, so be it.

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00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 3: If we got to shut this government down, so bit

810
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Speaker 3: darn the man.

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Speaker 2: I mean obviously I could go stronger, stronger with that

812
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Speaker 2: if we get to shut down the government. Sounds like

813
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: a tough guy, right, I mean I hear this, I

814
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: hear this guy, and I think I think tough guy.

815
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Speaker 2: You go see the video, looks like a like a

816
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 2: like a tough guy. You know, it's not even he

817
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 2: looks like somebody's caricature of a tough guy. He just

818
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: looks like a character. Let's let's play play play again,

819
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Speaker 2: play at number three a game.

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Speaker 9: They're landed, but he Turning back to Detroit this morning

821
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Speaker 9: after the Republicans failed to show up in the US House.

822
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 9: We got to make sure Americans have the healthcare that

823
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Speaker 9: they need. And if that means you gotta check this

824
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 9: government down.

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00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 3: So be it.

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Speaker 2: You know something, listen And obviously I was always told

827
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Speaker 2: in radio never punched down. I could easily punch down

828
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 2: on this guy. I'm not going to, but let's let's

829
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Speaker 2: sort of take the substance of it for a moment,

830
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 2: which is this idea that Americans need their health care

831
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Speaker 2: if you look at that empirically. I mean, first of all,

832
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Speaker 2: they're talking about the reason why. Let's assume for a

833
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Speaker 2: moment that this shutdown is preventing Americans from having their

834
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Speaker 2: health care. Well, the reason why they're shutting down is

835
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Speaker 2: because they want to extend that healthcare to folks who

836
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Speaker 2: are not Americans, who are either here legally or illegally. Right,

837
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 2: they don't care, But it would be one thing if

838
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Speaker 2: the Democrats hadn't created this mess.

839
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Speaker 3: But the reason why Americans.

840
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Speaker 2: Cannot afford their health care, whether it's the insurance itself

841
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 2: or the care itself, is because of things the Democrats

842
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Speaker 2: themselves have done. Right, we knew that the Affordable Care

843
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: Act was going to make premium prices explode. Let me

844
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Speaker 2: explain this real quick. I got a couple of minutes here. Again,

845
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Speaker 2: you never do math on the A but you all

846
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: know you're all good conservatives or Conservatorians or libertarians, so

847
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: you all know the way supply in microeconomics, how supply

848
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 2: and demand impact prices, right, And so if you have

849
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: a declining supply curve and increasing demand, you know a widget.

850
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Speaker 2: I used to talk about this with my kids all

851
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Speaker 2: the time. I wanted them to be literate in this regard.

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00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: If your widget has a declining supply but demand goes up,

853
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 2: the price is going to go up.

854
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Speaker 3: That's just the way it works.

855
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 2: If the supply is high and demand is down, the

856
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 2: price is going to go down as well to get

857
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Speaker 2: more people to buy it. So the widget in this

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Speaker 2: case is not health insurance. That's the whole other thing.

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00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: The widget is the amount of time.

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Speaker 3: That you spend with your health care provider.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 3: That's healthcare.

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00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 2: Now, obviously we can talk about pharmaceuticals, we could talk

864
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 2: about operations, talk about those things, but at its very core,

865
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Speaker 2: the widget is the amount of time you spend with

866
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Speaker 2: your healthcare provider, doctor, nurse, physicians, assistant. And so if

867
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Speaker 2: you increase the demand for that widget that time, the

868
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Speaker 2: price is going to go up. If you increase the

869
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: demand while the supply is declining, the price is going

870
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Speaker 2: to skyrocket. And if you try to artificially force down

871
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 2: the price, which is what they do, that's what price

872
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 2: controls are all about, you're gonna accelerate the decline and

873
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Speaker 2: the supply curve. I know it's a lot to digest.

874
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 2: The bottom line here is if you can't make money

875
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Speaker 2: off of it, if you can't recoup your investment, you're

876
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Speaker 2: gonna get out of the marketplace. You're going to have

877
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 2: less of the good to go around. That's what the

878
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 2: Democrats have done when they increase demand for health care

879
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 2: through the Affordable Care Act, and they didn't do anything

880
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 2: to solve the problem of the physician shortage that we

881
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 2: have in America, and at the same time they were

882
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 2: putting enormous pressure to keep prices low.

883
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 3: Well, what happens.

884
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: More and more doctors get out of the practice of medicine.

885
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 2: We've seen it, we predicted it, we knew.

886
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 3: What was going to happen.

887
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 2: And rather than go and do what you can to

888
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 2: create more doctors, nurses and physicians assistants, all they're doing

889
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 2: is mucking around on the edges.

890
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Speaker 3: Here.

891
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Speaker 2: Listen, when we come back, we are going to be

892
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Speaker 2: joined by doctor Zachary Marshall from Campus Reform. I'm Andrew Langer.

893
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 2: This is Tony Kats Today, the greatest rock song ever.

894
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: Listen before we bring on Zachary Marshall here. I know

895
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Speaker 2: I'm not supposed to comment on the music. I'm going

896
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 2: to comment on the music. I had the distinct pleasure

897
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Speaker 2: of going and seeing the Who. This is the Who's

898
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 2: Won't Get Fooled Again, in which the line meet the

899
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 2: new Boss same as the old Boss, sums up the

900
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 2: essence of what rock and roll is all about. I

901
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 2: saw The Who at Madison's Garden about a month ago,

902
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 2: just over a month ago. Took my family and it

903
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 2: was an amazing concert. I mean, you know, Roger Daltrey

904
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Speaker 2: at what age eighty one, It's astounding to me how

905
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 2: well his voice has held up. You go and look

906
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Speaker 2: on YouTube right now. You will find clips from that concert,

907
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Speaker 2: the Who Farewell tour, the song is Over tour Madison

908
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 2: Square Garden. In fact, I was wearing my Who tour

909
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: hoodie today. Anyway, I'm not sure if he's a WHO

910
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 2: fan or not. His name is Zachary Marshall, doctor Zachary Marshall, PhD.

911
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 2: He is the editor in chief of Campus perform And

912
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Speaker 2: I know we got sad stuff to talk about, Zachary,

913
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Speaker 2: But are you a WHO fan?

914
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

915
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 7: I am a Who fan, so listen is silver lining

916
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Speaker 7: to my joining you today?

917
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Speaker 3: There we go, Well listen.

918
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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously we played a clip earlier from Liz trust,

919
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Speaker 2: the former Prime Minister of the UK. We have this

920
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Speaker 2: attack that's been happening, that happened today in Manchester in

921
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Speaker 2: the UK. But this issue of anti Semitism is really

922
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Speaker 2: tough here at home. I'm having a hard time square

923
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Speaker 2: in it. But it is amazing to me how we

924
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 2: don't learn from history. This is happening. By the way,

925
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Speaker 2: one of the most Jewish universities in America, the University

926
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Speaker 2: of Maryland College Park, talk about what's happening there today.

927
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so.

928
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Speaker 7: We had the Swiss for Justin and Peali Frien chapter

929
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Speaker 7: at University of Maryland try to push a anti Israel

930
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Speaker 7: boycott resolution through the student government, first on Russia Shana

931
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Speaker 7: and then when that at ten failed, they then forced

932
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Speaker 7: through a vote at the student government last night, which

933
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Speaker 7: was the start of Yan Kapoor, which is today. So

934
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Speaker 7: obviously Jewish students were not able to participate there, whether

935
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Speaker 7: it would be in the student government to vote on

936
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Speaker 7: it or to be president to voice their opinions. We

937
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Speaker 7: just learned today that the resolution passed. I think it

938
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Speaker 7: was twenty nine to zero last night. And while this

939
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Speaker 7: is a student government and acknowledge it has no binding

940
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Speaker 7: effect on the university policy, it's something that we really

941
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Speaker 7: do need to call out because especially what has happened

942
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Speaker 7: in Manchester. You know that that attack breaks national and

943
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Speaker 7: international news, but there have been different years of Jews

944
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Speaker 7: being pushed, name called, harassed in London in different cities,

945
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Speaker 7: and you pay that do not break into the news

946
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Speaker 7: cycle and the same thing happens here and stuff like

947
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Speaker 7: this that normalizes the humanity Jews, and it's made people

948
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Speaker 7: comfortable to be anti Semitic. Like the protests we've been

949
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Speaker 7: covering Campus Reformed after October seventh didn't just happen. You

950
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Speaker 7: had years of conditioning students to be okay harassing.

951
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Speaker 3: Jews and to try and assault them.

952
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Speaker 7: And it's this is a cultural problem right now and

953
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Speaker 7: the university it has to be responsible for what happens

954
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Speaker 7: on campus and it is complicit in allowing a vote

955
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Speaker 7: to happen, you know the way it did to Jewish holiday.

956
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Speaker 3: This did not so much surprise.

957
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Speaker 7: We all know when young Kapor is going to be

958
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Speaker 7: We all know when things in the fall semester are

959
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Speaker 7: going to.

960
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Speaker 2: Happen, right, I mean, I imagine, imagine, ladies and gentlemen,

961
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Speaker 2: if the shoe were on the other foot and you

962
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Speaker 2: had students calling for some kind of anti Palestine or

963
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Speaker 2: anti Muslim, an anti Muslim piece of student legislation. We

964
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Speaker 2: get that it's student legislation, but some kind of a resolution,

965
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Speaker 2: but they did it on Ramadan. I mean, it is

966
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Speaker 2: this is this, you know, we have to we have

967
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Speaker 2: to be consistent here in all of this, and we

968
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Speaker 2: have to recognize that the other ring, the continued other

969
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Speaker 2: ring of Jews, is what leads to these issues of violence.

970
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Speaker 7: There.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this.

972
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Speaker 2: We're talking about Zachary Marshall. He's the editor in chief

973
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Speaker 2: of Campus Reformed Doctor Zachary Marshall, PhD.

974
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Speaker 3: How's the Trump administration doing with this?

975
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 2: I mean, they have really made it a point to

976
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Speaker 2: push back on these acts of anti Semitism in a

977
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Speaker 2: way that the Democrats have been unable to do.

978
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Speaker 3: So how are they doing? I think the.

979
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Speaker 7: Speed and effectiveness which the Trump in mastration has made

980
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 7: university has changed their behavior is incredible.

981
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Speaker 3: I never expected to.

982
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Speaker 7: See so much change so fast, and I think the

983
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Speaker 7: frozen funnel funding we've seen these settlements we're seeing out

984
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 7: of Columbia and Brown for example. This is very effective

985
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 7: because we need to abandon the liberal fantasy that we

986
00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 7: can change people's minds. Worked right beyond that point. You know,

987
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Speaker 7: we had a year and we had over a year

988
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Speaker 7: of this under the Biden administration where universities had more

989
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 7: than an ample opportunity to you know, realize what they

990
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 7: were doing wrong, but they chose not.

991
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Speaker 5: To until their money was at stake.

992
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Speaker 7: So it's kind of discussing the money is what's motivating

993
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Speaker 7: universities to start improving, but while we know that we

994
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Speaker 7: can at least compel their behavior. So I think he

995
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,720
Speaker 7: is I think where the administration is succeeding is getting

996
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Speaker 7: people in higher education to think twice about their actions

997
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Speaker 7: and what they can doone I think a lot of

998
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 7: liberals went through their jobs in high ed without thinking

999
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 7: about anything and had no idea what they were supporting

1000
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Speaker 7: or being complicit in. And I think right now what

1001
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Speaker 7: he's what the administration is doing well is changing the

1002
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Speaker 7: culture and higher ed to make people slightly moreable, slightly

1003
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Speaker 7: more aware of what the knock on effects are of

1004
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 7: letting chapters like s JAP run wild on campus.

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Speaker 14: Right.

1006
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Speaker 2: It's the issue of obviously, people are entitled to their

1007
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Speaker 2: opinion and they're entitled to their advocacy, but universities have

1008
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Speaker 2: to be you know, they have to be places where

1009
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Speaker 2: people can have these conversations. And we know, right, we know,

1010
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Speaker 2: doctor Marshall, that this is not just coincidental that these

1011
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 2: things are happening during the Jewish High Holy Days by

1012
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 2: uh by s JP, the Students for Justice in Palestine

1013
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 2: so called, they are choosing these dates purposefully, aren't they?

1014
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 3: And it's all intentional.

1015
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Speaker 7: And we actually went Council Reform went to the University

1016
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Speaker 7: of Maryland yesterday and we asked students for a Christian

1017
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Speaker 7: and Muslim, how would you feel if this's happened on

1018
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Speaker 7: gracious a Ramadan? And you know it took them, you know,

1019
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 7: it took them hearing that question understand what the problem is.

1020
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Speaker 7: And you know, I have that video on our YouTube

1021
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Speaker 7: right now and I think this, you know, this is

1022
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Speaker 7: such a predictable.

1023
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Speaker 3: Problem, which makes it kind of sad in a way.

1024
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Speaker 7: One thing we reported on after October seventh was that,

1025
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Speaker 7: you know, for all the problems THEI training, for all

1026
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Speaker 7: the problems that inclusivity training initiatives create iolage campuses, Judaism,

1027
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Speaker 7: and Jewish people, although we are very small minority or

1028
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Speaker 7: never included any of those pro right so it doesn't

1029
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Speaker 7: matter how Jewish show universal right, you still have most

1030
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Speaker 7: people there who have no contacts for one hundred Jewish experience.

1031
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Speaker 2: One hundred percent, Zach, we have to leave it there,

1032
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Speaker 2: Zachary Marshall from Campus Reform. Campus reform dot org is

1033
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Speaker 2: the website.

1034
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Speaker 10: You know.

1035
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Speaker 2: We'll talk a little bit more about this later on

1036
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 2: because there is a real fundamental question.

1037
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Speaker 3: In the liberal movement. Jerry Rodgers.

1038
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Speaker 2: When we come back, welcome back everybody. For those who

1039
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Speaker 2: are about to rock, we salute you. I am Andrew

1040
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 2: Langer in for Tony Katz today. Joining me right now

1041
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 2: is my best buddy. He is my best buddy. His

1042
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Speaker 2: name is Jerry Rodgers. He's the editor of Real Clear

1043
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Speaker 2: Policy and Real Clear Health. He's also the host of

1044
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Speaker 2: the Jerry Rogers Show. Do we heard in Baltimore? My

1045
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,479
Speaker 2: co host and Andrew and Jerry Save the world.

1046
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Speaker 3: Gerald.

1047
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Speaker 2: We were playing at the beginning, I know you're a

1048
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 2: Zeppelin fan, you're a Zeppelin fanatic, but we're playing the

1049
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 2: who's won't get fooled again. That's up in your pantheon

1050
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 2: of greatest classic rock songs of all time, is it not.

1051
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 5: Well, of course you have to love the Who.

1052
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 8: Yes, you have to love the Beatles, you have to

1053
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 8: love the Rolling Stones. But but the top of the

1054
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Speaker 8: food chain is Zeppelin. And then on top of Zeppelin,

1055
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Speaker 8: of course there is Elvis Chrestley Elvis. There is no Zeppelin,

1056
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Speaker 8: there is no Beatles, there.

1057
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Speaker 5: Is no Who.

1058
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny, I wrote. I read an article

1059
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Speaker 2: the other day. You know, Donovan is now taking credit

1060
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Speaker 2: for the creation of led Zeppelin. And I and I

1061
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 2: get it, you know, because Jimmy Page and John Paul

1062
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 2: Jones were session musicians who played on some some some

1063
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 2: Donovant albums. But the idea that Donovan is taking credit

1064
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Speaker 2: for led Zeppelin is insane to me.

1065
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 8: Well, I think the Zeppelin reputation and h and their

1066
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 8: universe can handle it.

1067
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Speaker 2: Yes, I agree with that, And then I know you

1068
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 2: and I both agree. Paul McCartney needs to be writing

1069
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Speaker 2: better songs. As one of our good friends.

1070
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Speaker 8: I say one thing on his note, just one last thing.

1071
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Speaker 8: You know, Robert Plant was asked years ago in the eighties,

1072
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 8: you know of that time period who most reminded him

1073
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 8: of Zeppelin?

1074
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 5: And he said, Who's could do?

1075
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Speaker 3: Interested to do?

1076
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 8: A thrash band from the Midwest, a three piece band,

1077
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 8: and he said it was because there was a sense

1078
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 8: of presence, a sense of in the moment about them

1079
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Speaker 8: and not very similar, you know this similar musical styles.

1080
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Speaker 5: But Robert plant was a big well, he's a big

1081
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 5: fan of music. But who's to do? Back in the eighties?

1082
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 5: He loves Who's could do?

1083
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 2: But anyway, absolutely so, as we're talking with Jerry Rogers's

1084
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 2: he had a real clear policy. You and I had

1085
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Speaker 2: a conversation yesterday about what what Sean Farrash is calling

1086
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 2: the Schumer siesta and and how this is boomeranging against

1087
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 2: the Democrats. The markets responded, the hell with the s

1088
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Speaker 2: and P five hundred had record levels yesterday. This does

1089
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Speaker 2: not augur well for the Democrats, does it.

1090
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Speaker 3: Jerry Rodgers?

1091
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 8: No, And again for clarity, for your audience, for Tony's audience,

1092
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Speaker 8: you know, for clarity center Schumer, the setate Democrats, they

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Speaker 8: filibustered a clean short term cr triggering that triggered this shutdown,

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Speaker 8: right and and why this is the interesting part, this

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Speaker 8: is maybe why it's not boomeranging on the GOP like

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Speaker 8: it has done in previous years, because it's obvious that

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Speaker 8: this is pressure from the left and it's for the

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Speaker 8: health insurance industry.

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Speaker 3: They're they're not doing this for the poor, these.

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Speaker 8: Democrats, They're doing it for the health insurance industry. Their

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Speaker 8: goal is to repeal the reforms from the you know,

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Speaker 8: the big beautiful tax law that you know, Medicaid work

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Speaker 8: requirements and defraud protections, and of course, yeah, yeah, what

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Speaker 8: you hear from CNN.

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Speaker 5: They they they want to.

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Speaker 8: Give healthcare Medicaid dollars legal aliens, period.

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Speaker 3: This is the truth.

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Speaker 8: It's on page fifty six of their bill, literal literally,

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Speaker 8: we can look at the wording and again remember.

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Speaker 5: This too, you know, money is fungible, so they're playing

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Speaker 5: word games.

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Speaker 8: Well, you know it's against federal law for illegals to

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Speaker 8: get medicaid, but yeah, but numerous states Califority, New Jersey,

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Speaker 8: New York, etc.

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Speaker 5: Offer Medicaid moneies two illegals, and then they.

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Speaker 8: Take the federal money and just replace that in terms

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Speaker 8: of their stick programs. The left is lying, the mainstream

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Speaker 8: legacy media is lying. And the good news is because

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Speaker 8: of Tony Cats show. Because of the work that you

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Speaker 8: do and I do and others do, the truth is

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Speaker 8: not far behind the line.

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Speaker 2: So Jerry and we're talking with Jerry Rodgers, editor of

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Speaker 2: Real Clear Policy and Real Clear Healthy. Can find the

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Speaker 2: buff online, but he's on Twitter at Jerry Rodgers Show.

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Speaker 2: I mean, let's talk about some yeah, Jerry Rodgers Show.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about some of the other stuff that's going

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Speaker 2: on this week. There was a very interesting moment a

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Speaker 2: couple of days ago. We'll come back to the hospital

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Speaker 2: thing in a second, but you know, you and I

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Speaker 2: have both spent a lot of time talking about most

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Speaker 2: favored nation and price controls with prescription drugs and what

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Speaker 2: drives prescription drug prices. But the President reached us or

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Speaker 2: the President the administration reached a settlement with Pfizer this

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Speaker 2: week about this issue.

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Speaker 3: To talk a little bit about that.

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Speaker 8: Well again, brilliant political move Trump our X. You know,

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Speaker 8: while the Democrats are crying about illegal alien healthcare for illegals,

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Speaker 8: Trump is actually working with the branded innovative American companies

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Speaker 8: to bring drug prices down.

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Speaker 5: Let me just say this real quick, please out.

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Speaker 8: Well, Jerry, what about the tariffs and the tariffs are

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Speaker 8: going to raise drug prices.

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Speaker 5: And this is well, I'm so waiting for the high prices.

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Speaker 5: But here's the thing that arm.

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Speaker 8: Of the trade associations for the drug companies actually said

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Speaker 8: last week, and that is no tariffs on medicines will

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Speaker 8: not raise prices because there's a caveat if you build.

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Speaker 5: Manufacturing here in the US. Uh, there's no terriffs. Guess

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Speaker 5: what every single innovative company is doing.

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Speaker 8: They have all either broken ground or they have blueprint

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Speaker 8: to increase their footprint, their manufacturing footprint in America. So

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Speaker 8: not only is he winning on the Trump RX, but

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Speaker 8: he's winning on the tariff issue because companies, dozens of

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Speaker 8: companies are rebuilding or expanding their facilities and their footprint

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Speaker 8: in the US. This is a resetting, potentially andrew of

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Speaker 8: the of the of the economic structure.

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Speaker 5: Remember what Donald Trump is doing.

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Speaker 8: He's trying to reset the the international economy where.

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Speaker 5: America was getting the back of the hand for the

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Speaker 5: past four decades.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting I talked about this at the

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Speaker 2: beginning of the show, because you have this, you have

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Speaker 2: a couple of different quotes out there from folks who

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Speaker 2: got this. Shreth and de Aharr talking about this. You've

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Speaker 2: got Gene Shaheen, you know, talking about the issue with

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Speaker 2: the illegals, this this idea. A lot of Democrats don't

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Speaker 2: recognize them, not figured out that we are now in

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Speaker 2: this era of mess around, f around and find out.

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Speaker 2: You know, Russ vote right, Russ vote is serious when

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Speaker 2: he talks about, you know, this issue. And so you

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Speaker 2: have the American Federation of Government Employees, the nation's largest

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Speaker 2: government employee union. They have eight hundred and twenty thousand

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Speaker 2: members paying on average forty dollars a month. That's three

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty million. I'm sorry, that's thirty two million

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Speaker 2: dollars a month going to the coffers of this union.

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Speaker 2: And they think that that that, you know, we're just

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Speaker 2: going to go that things are it's it's it's business

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Speaker 2: as usual. It is not business as usual, is it.

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Speaker 8: Jerry No, And I laugh at the Democrats and David

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Speaker 8: Newsom and others who are saying, look what the Trump

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Speaker 8: omb is doing. They're going after these blue state the

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Speaker 8: cutoff of funding.

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Speaker 5: Yes, because it was the blue state senators that voted.

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Speaker 3: To have the shutdowns.

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Speaker 5: Right, Remember that they think we're done, they think we're stupid.

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Speaker 8: It takes sixty votes to break the filibuster, and it

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Speaker 8: is it is absolutely.

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Speaker 5: The Democrats who caused this shutdown. But here here's an

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Speaker 5: interesting twist. I'm sure you haven't thought about this yet.

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Speaker 5: Many people have not.

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Speaker 8: I think this is a backdoor away from the Democrats

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Speaker 8: to force the Republicans to get.

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Speaker 5: Rid of the philibuster.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's that's an interesting idea, right, I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is this is everybody is trying to push the

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Speaker 2: guardrails to sort of figure out where they are, and

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Speaker 2: so much of this is about is about you know,

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Speaker 2: setting things up for down the road, which is something

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Speaker 2: you and I have warned about as well.

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Speaker 5: The Democrats are going that the Democrats are good at that.

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Speaker 8: Right, Washington Monthly has has a peace out right now

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Speaker 8: where where they're saying that Republicans can end the filibuster, immediately,

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Speaker 8: end the shutdown, immediately by ending the by ending the

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Speaker 8: by ending the filibuster. Right, I think right, Because Congress

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Speaker 8: even go back and forth, back and forth, back and forth,

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Speaker 8: they will have the majority someday in the Senate, and

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Speaker 8: what they want is to get rid of the philibuster.

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Speaker 5: Should they can do what Andrew, they can make dc

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Speaker 5: estates and make me rico estates and they and.

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Speaker 3: Therefore and impact and expanded back to the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and I wouldn't be surprised that the sorrows backed,

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Speaker 8: you know, intellectuals behind me, you know, the ones who

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Speaker 8: go in the publish rings are thinking, you know what,

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Speaker 8: I don't mind losing here if it means or forcing

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Speaker 8: the Republicans to undo the filibuster, because then we can

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Speaker 8: come back later and get a permitent majority.

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Speaker 2: Right, that's the issue is there. They are always thinking

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Speaker 2: about where things are. Jerry Rodgers the man who warned

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Speaker 2: me as we were having these discussions about gay marriage

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Speaker 2: and in the early two thousands, you know, two thousand

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Speaker 2: and one or or that time frame, and Jerry's like Andrew,

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Speaker 2: it's not about gay marriage. It is about it is

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Speaker 2: about gender policy. It's about you know, men pretending to

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Speaker 2: be women going into bathrooms. Jerry, you're the man who

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Speaker 2: predicted this about twenty five years ago. How do folks

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Speaker 2: find out more about the good work you're.

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Speaker 5: Doing, my friend, We'll go to Real Clear at Policy,

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Speaker 5: Real Clear Health. Go to at Jerry Rogers show.

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Speaker 3: When do you think this ends?

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Speaker 8: How long do you think I think it goes another

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Speaker 8: week or two weeks at least, and I think the

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Speaker 8: compromise will be the GOP will relent on the subsidies

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Speaker 8: and Obamacare and the Dems will relent on money to illegals.

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Speaker 2: So you think the Dems are going to either cancel

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Speaker 2: their Sonoma trip next.

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Speaker 3: Weekend or they're just not going to care about the optics. Well,

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Speaker 3: you know what.

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Speaker 8: I talked to some folks on the set side today

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Speaker 8: actually for a piece that we're doing a Real Clear

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Speaker 8: and they told me at least another week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, I mean yeah, so yeah, it goes in

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Speaker 2: so they can leave next Friday for the Wine country

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Speaker 2: and have their thing. Jerry Rogers, thank you so very

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Speaker 2: much for joining us today, my friend, all right, love

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Speaker 2: you well, talk to you later on Jerry Rodgers at

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Speaker 2: Jerry Rodgers Show on Twitter.

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Speaker 18: Uh.

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Speaker 2: He is the editor of Real Clear Policy, Real Clear Healthy.

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Speaker 2: He does the Business of America podcast, he does a

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Speaker 2: bunch of things. Yes, he is my best. But I'm

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Speaker 2: Andrew langer In for Tony Katz. This is Tony Kats today.

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Speaker 2: Well we are back, everybody. I am Andrew langer In

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Speaker 2: for Tony Kats. You can check me out at Andrew

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Speaker 2: underscore Langer on Twitter. I'm a little sell selling my

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Speaker 2: of myself here. So I obviously I do a lot

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Speaker 2: of radios think I do the podcast with Jerry Andrew

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Speaker 2: and Jerry Save the World. I do a weekly public

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Speaker 2: policy deep dive called the Lunch Hour for an outfit

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Speaker 2: called the Federal Newswire, and it's good stuff.

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Speaker 3: This week is Patrick Hedger.

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Speaker 2: We've spent a bit of time talking about free speech

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Speaker 2: issues and why they're important. Obviously, as I said last week,

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Speaker 2: I sat down with Liz Trust, the Prime Minister of

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Speaker 2: former Prime Minister Great Britain, to talk about these things.

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Speaker 3: So it's it's worth going and and checking those things out.

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Speaker 2: And then of course I do I do my regulatory

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Speaker 2: work for SEAPAC, the folks who put on the big SEAPAC.

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Speaker 3: Conference in d C every year.

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Speaker 2: I run their regulatory affairs work and also do healthcare

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Speaker 2: policy as the chairman or the executive director of the

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Speaker 2: Coalition Against Socialized Medicine.

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Speaker 3: You can check us out at SEAPAC dot org. It's

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Speaker 3: a it's a great way to do this.

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Speaker 2: So you know, Jerry raises an important point. Jerry Rogers,

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Speaker 2: the editor of Real clar policy and real clear health.

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Speaker 2: So much of this is about gamesmanship. And I am

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Speaker 2: always very cautious about issues having to do with having

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Speaker 2: to do with creating precedence and being consistent and looking

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Speaker 2: at the unintended consequences of our actions. And so in

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Speaker 2: these kinds of circumstances, being dared to do things, you know,

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Speaker 2: like break the filibuster, you know, these are the kinds

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Speaker 2: of things that can boomerang. It's something that I've been

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Speaker 2: warning about when we're talking about ma make America healthy again,

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Speaker 2: and when you give power to government, and this administration

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Speaker 2: is all about reducing the size and scope of the

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Speaker 2: federal government, right, That's that's what the regulatory issues are

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Speaker 2: all about. But when you decide to reserve some of

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Speaker 2: that nanny statism and make use of that power as

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Speaker 2: a portion of the spectrum that is supposed to be

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Speaker 2: against that, you open up the opportunity for it to

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Speaker 2: be used against you down the road. And lots of

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Speaker 2: discussion about this, about this issue of well, we have

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Speaker 2: the power now, let's use the power now. And I

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Speaker 2: understand this. That nevertheless leaves me to want to caution people.

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Speaker 2: I will tell you about stuff that is empirical that

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Speaker 2: could that could benefit down the road. Is something that

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Speaker 2: Rick Scott says regarding this shutdown. Let's go ahead play

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Speaker 2: cut number seven there.

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Speaker 21: Land in September. I'm a business guy. I always passed budgets.

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Speaker 21: And by the way, if you didn't do your job

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Speaker 21: in business, you didn't get paid. You don't show up

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Speaker 21: and do your job, you don't get paid. Why are

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Speaker 21: we getting paid. We shouldn't get paid if we don't

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Speaker 21: do our job. We figured we need to figure out

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Speaker 21: how to work together to get our budgets done. It's

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Speaker 21: as simple as that. So you're going to offer legislation

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Speaker 21: to not get paid during lockdown? During shutdowns? Absolutely, I

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Speaker 21: already have a bill. We've got a bill that we

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Speaker 21: don't get paid during the shutdown. Ron Johnson's got a

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Speaker 21: bill that will never have shutdowns. That should pass also.

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Speaker 21: But on top of that, what are the Democrats are doing?

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Speaker 21: This is a clean resolution. All we're doing is is

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Speaker 21: keeping the funding. Actually the funding is too high. It's

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Speaker 21: still a Biden funding. But I don't want to shut

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Speaker 21: down government. So I supported by the Democrats that they

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Speaker 21: want to shutdown for whatever reason. How is this good

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Speaker 21: for the country? Nobody wins with a shutdown, I hear you,

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Speaker 21: And what about people at home?

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Speaker 2: Really, the bottom line here is, listen, I disagree categorically

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Speaker 2: that we should that we should you know, have some

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Speaker 2: kind of lots as we shut down the government.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 2: No, I think at the end of the day, if

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Speaker 2: they can't get their acts together, then then yeah, absolutely

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Speaker 2: the government.

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Speaker 3: They ought to be able. We ought to be able

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Speaker 3: to shut down the government.

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Speaker 2: But on the other hand, I think is a hedge

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Speaker 2: against this if you want to make it so that

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Speaker 2: they have to think twice before they go down this road.

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Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think, and I think it's

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Speaker 2: not just members of Congress. I don't think congressional staff

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Speaker 2: should get paid. And I listen, I would even be

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Speaker 2: willing to go the next step and say it's not

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Speaker 2: about you know, furloughs and deferred compensation. I think if

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Speaker 2: if they shut down the government for every day the

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Speaker 2: government is not shut down, are there every day the

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Speaker 2: government shut down, then congressional staff doesn't get paid. I

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Speaker 2: mean you could also you can also you know, put

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Speaker 2: a penalty on the staffers of the minority party. No,

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Speaker 2: I know you can't do that. It's equal protection under

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Speaker 2: the law. But the bottom line here is that if

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01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:01,600
Speaker 2: they're not doing theirs, and they're gonna be petty and

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01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,719
Speaker 2: they're gonna be childish, and they're gonna, you know, hold

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Speaker 2: the government hostage, hold the American people hostage because they

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01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 2: want more than a trillion dollars UH to give money

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Speaker 2: to for healthcare to folks who are not American citizens,

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Speaker 2: whether they're here legally or illegally. Either way, then yeah,

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01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 2: maybe just maybe there ought to be they ought to

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01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 2: have some more skin in this game. They ought to

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Speaker 2: be they ought to be held accountable in that regard.

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Speaker 2: If you know something, We're gonna ask that question of

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Speaker 2: Scotty Hughes. She's going to be joining us in the

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Speaker 2: next hour. Very excited to have her on. Scotty Hughes

1355
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Speaker 2: is a pundit, the former host of News Views. Hughes

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Speaker 2: now a fellow at Frontiers of Freedom doing some really

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Speaker 2: interesting work on healthcare policy, among other things.

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Speaker 3: We're going to talk to her about.

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Speaker 2: This, but yeah, we're gonna we're gonna really dive deeply

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Speaker 2: into what jd Vance has said, what Mike Johnson has said. Oh,

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Speaker 2: and the White House has a special message on their

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Speaker 2: answering machine. I'm Andrew Langer. This is Tony Kats Today,

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Speaker 2: Live from.

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Speaker 1: The Heartland and the crossroads of America. It's Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 2: I am Andrew Langer in for Tony Katz Today on

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01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 2: Tony Katz Today. I've got a little little something to

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Speaker 2: my stomach, you know, land, and I've been sitting here

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01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 2: talking about public subs and it made me a little

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Speaker 2: h made me a little peckish. So anyway, hi, everybody,

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Speaker 2: I haven't had a sub from them and forever in

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Speaker 2: a day.

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Speaker 3: You can join the conversation.

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Speaker 2: Just message me on on Facebook, Facebook, dot Com slash

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Speaker 2: Andrew Langer Show. You can also follow me there and

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Speaker 2: if you're not following me on Twitter, why not? It

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01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 2: should be at Andrew Underscore Langer l A N G

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Speaker 2: E R Gotta be Joe. Just a couple of minutes

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Speaker 2: by Scott Email Hughes Pundit extraordinary and one of the

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Speaker 2: one of the best minds for reading the political landscape.

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Speaker 2: Going to get her take on what's going on with

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Speaker 2: the shutdown in the meantime, because I do like talking

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Speaker 2: about these things, and I do like starting off the

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Speaker 2: hour with something fun and funny. Obviously, you know it's

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Speaker 2: one of those it's so funny. When I was when

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01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 2: I was just a kid, when I was just a

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Speaker 2: kid starting out in my my political and policy career,

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Speaker 2: I learned that there was this thing called the White

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Speaker 2: House Actuality Hotline, and yeah, you know you could you

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Speaker 2: can call the White House, which I believe Actually I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to give you the number. There's a number

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Speaker 2: that I used to know, but you could, you know,

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Speaker 2: call the White House switchboard. But but you could also

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Speaker 2: call the Press office and they would have clips that

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Speaker 2: you would record off of your phone, uh for you know,

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Speaker 2: off of their phone. Like like this is before cell phones.

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Speaker 2: You know, you have the one of these things where

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Speaker 2: you would literally have a microphone on a suction cup.

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Speaker 2: Land It has no idea what I'm talking about. Let

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Speaker 2: me let me explain this to you, Landed. So, so

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Speaker 2: if you wanted to record a phone call, and again

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Speaker 2: you have to obviously you know your state's laws permitting,

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Speaker 2: but you would you would literally take this device that

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Speaker 2: was a suction cup that you would attach to the

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Speaker 2: the earpiece of the handset and then plug that suction

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Speaker 2: cup thing, you know, into your recording device and you

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01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 2: could record phone calls that way.

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Speaker 3: It was listen it was it was insane what we

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Speaker 3: would do.

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Speaker 2: This is this is one step beyond uh when if

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Speaker 2: you wanted to record a song off the radio, you

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01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 2: would put your tape deck next to your radio and

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Speaker 2: just wait for the sun to come on, which is

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Speaker 2: something we all did, all of us who are a

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Speaker 2: specific age. So I believe the White House Actuality Hotline

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Speaker 2: is still there and if you call it, here is

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Speaker 2: the message that you get from Caroline Levitt, the the

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Speaker 2: White House Press Secretary.

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Speaker 3: Let's play cut number eight, Kim Hont, hold on, hold

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Speaker 3: on for a second.

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Speaker 2: By the way, that's not me adding in the sound effects. Literally,

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Speaker 2: this is a reporter who is calling from their office

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Speaker 2: phone into this. So there's a dialing it and go

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Speaker 2: ahead at landon nakm Hont.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for calling the White House comment Line.

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Speaker 22: Hello America, this is White House Press Secretary Caroline Lovitt.

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Speaker 22: Democrats and Congress have shut down the federal government because

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Speaker 22: they care more about funding health care for illegal immigrants

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Speaker 22: than they care about serving you, the American people. Until

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Speaker 22: Democrats vote for the Clean Republican Back Continuing Resolution to

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Speaker 22: reopen the government. The White House is unable to answer

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Speaker 22: your call or respond to your questions. We look forward

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Speaker 22: to hearing from you again very soon, and in the meantime,

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Speaker 22: please know President Trump will never stop fighting for you.

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Speaker 22: Thank you and God bless you.

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Speaker 2: So I guess that's not even the actuality line. That's

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Speaker 2: the actual White House comment line that you called into it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they are really good at getting these messages

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Speaker 2: out there, and all ofisden I'm someone who thought that

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01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 2: we're really good in the in the first term about

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01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 2: their messaging. They have learned so much from all of this,

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Speaker 2: and as I said in my speech last night to

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Speaker 2: the Queen An's County Maryland Republicans, you know, they understand

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01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 2: empirically that time is short.

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01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 3: We all hope, we all hope that jd.

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Speaker 2: Vance or Mark or Rubio or whomever is going to

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Speaker 2: succeed Donald Trump as president, you know, come twenty twenty eight,

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01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 2: twenty twenty nine, But nothing is guaranteed. What we do

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Speaker 2: know is that there is for this administration a limited

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01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 2: amount of time, just over three years left, and they've

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Speaker 2: got a lot to accomplish, and they're peeling these things

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Speaker 2: back now on this issue, we're gonna We're going to

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01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 2: jump down here at Landon because they've got their messaging. Well,

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Speaker 2: here is Scott Bessant, the Treasury secretary, talking about the shutdown.

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Speaker 2: Let's play at number fourteen. But getting back to Joe's

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Speaker 2: kind of premise on this, are these furloughs or job

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Speaker 2: layoffs in the federal government?

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Speaker 23: Are those going to come anyway?

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Speaker 11: Because that's what the Democrats have suggested that, you know,

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Speaker 11: the Trump administration.

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Speaker 10: Is going to push forward with layoffs and with furloughs anyway,

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Speaker 10: whether they do this or not, is that true?

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Speaker 14: Again, it's a talking point Senator Schumer, Representative Jet Frees.

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Speaker 14: You know they're weak, they're discombobulated, they are they don't

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Speaker 14: represent the American people, and you know they're they're making

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01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 14: up excuses. So you know, we'll we'll see. I think

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Speaker 14: that this is an opportunity and they're using this opportunity.

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Speaker 14: President Trump in the first nine months now has been unstoppable.

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Speaker 14: They've tried to stop him in the courts, they've tried

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Speaker 14: to stopping in the press, and now they're trying to

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Speaker 14: stop him with this shutdown.

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Speaker 3: And let's be really clear about this. Let's assume for

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Speaker 3: a moment that this is at its.

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Speaker 2: Core, right, Jerry Rogers, he had a real clear policy,

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Speaker 2: had said that, you know, made the suggestion, well, this

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Speaker 2: is you know, some of this is about daring the

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Speaker 2: Republicans to get rid of the filibuster. That may be

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Speaker 2: it as well, but let's assume for a moment that

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Speaker 2: it is this idea. Well, the Republicans are going to

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Speaker 2: do this anyway, So what do we have to lose

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Speaker 2: by shutting down the government? I mean, if you are

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Speaker 2: if you are the American Federation of Government Employees, right,

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Speaker 2: you are a government employee, I would think that you

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Speaker 2: would want if you're looking up down the road at

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Speaker 2: the reduction in force, you would want the choice. You

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Speaker 2: want your job, obviously, you want you want to maintain

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Speaker 2: your job. You want to be able to not have

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Speaker 2: to come into DC. You want to be able to

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Speaker 2: work as little as possible. You want all of these

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Speaker 2: fat benefits that are out there. And again I'm not

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Speaker 2: castigating every government worker out there, to be really clear

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Speaker 2: about this, but the bottom line here is we all

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Speaker 2: know people. I have a family member who has gotten

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Speaker 2: their first job with a government agency and has seen

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Speaker 2: firsthand the number of folks who absolutely should not be there.

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Speaker 2: So if you're if you're a government worker and you're

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Speaker 2: looking at this, you want to make sure that whatever

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Speaker 2: reductions in force are done are done systematically and not

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Speaker 2: massively accelerated or done wholesale because some fat cat elitist democrat,

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Speaker 2: uh you know, doesn't want to have to do their

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Speaker 2: job at actually negotiating a budget and negotiating appropriations bills,

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01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:57,839
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera, having to make the tough choices.

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01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 2: They think that that they can use this to their

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01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 2: advantage down the road. Right that that that they think

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Speaker 2: that the American people are gonna are gonna accept that

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01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 2: they're gonna defend They're gonna shut down the government and

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01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:16,519
Speaker 2: throw a lot of federal employees off the workforce willie nilly,

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Speaker 2: uh so that illegal immigrants can have their their healthcare.

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Speaker 14: You know.

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Speaker 2: So we haven't even played it yet, but I want

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Speaker 2: to make sure we got plenty of time for Scott

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Speaker 2: to hughes. But you know, but but uh, Hakeem Jeffries

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Speaker 2: was confronted on this specifically about this.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you got ro Kana admitting this, you know, well, well,

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Speaker 3: well we will play that. You know, we got we

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Speaker 3: got geene jaheen being fact checked.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I've never I've never heard you know, So we

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Speaker 2: do my favor landing real quick play this is play

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Speaker 2: cut number ten again before we before we go, let's

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Speaker 2: let's hear this is this is gene jaheen uh, not

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Speaker 2: recognizing that the internet is forever.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead and pla cut number.

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Speaker 11: I haven't heard anybody in my party saying that illegal

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01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:06,599
Speaker 11: immigrants should get access to the health insurance market place.

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Speaker 12: I'm so glad you said, actually, have some type of

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01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 12: your Democratic Party members said this on the debate? Stay,

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01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:15,759
Speaker 12: so they've all said, and let's play the clip.

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01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 2: So glad that we can end it there, because then

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Speaker 2: what he does is he plays a clip from the

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01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:26,759
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen one of the twenty nineteen Democratic primary presidential

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Speaker 2: primary debates in which every single candidate on the stage

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Speaker 2: raised their hand when they said they wanted to extend

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01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 2: government health benefits to illegal aliens.

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Speaker 3: They said it, and none of them, none of them

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Speaker 3: have disavowed it.

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Speaker 18: You know, the.

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01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:51,639
Speaker 2: Even Gavin Newsom right, who is facing nine billion dollars

1538
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 2: in extra spending because his state has become a sanctuary

1539
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 2: for this, he hasn't turned around and said I want

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01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 2: to do this any or they're they're shutting down access.

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01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 2: But he hasn't categorically denied it. In any case, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna be talking about this with Scotty Nell Hughes. I'm

1543
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:08,799
Speaker 2: Andrew Langer.

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01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 3: This is Tony Kats today.

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01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 2: Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. I am Andrew Langer in

1546
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 2: for Tony Katz today. Tony will be back tomorrow. Obviously

1547
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 2: he's off observing you, Kippor, and we appreciate him doing that.

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01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 2: Joining us right now is an old friend of mine.

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Speaker 2: Her name is Scotty Nell Hughes. She's a senior fellow

1550
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:31,639
Speaker 2: at Frontiers of Freedom. You can find her on Twitter

1551
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 2: at Scotty n No Scotty nell h. I always get that,

1552
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 2: I always get that messed up Scotty Scotty nell h

1553
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 2: on X. But I had to get your opinion of this.

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01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 2: Normally Scotty shutdowns augur boomerang against Republicans, not so much here.

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01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 3: Where do you what do you think is going on?

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Speaker 19: Well, first of all, I just have to ask one

1557
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 19: question of you. And we've been friends long enough, I

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01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 19: have to ask, So Tony is taking off for.

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01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 3: Yong you are because He's Jewish.

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01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 19: Yes, Andrew Langer, You're Jewish too, So does that make

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01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:09,760
Speaker 19: Tony a better Jew than you?

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01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 14: Oh?

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01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 2: Listen, I think it goes without saying. I think most

1564
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 2: Jews are better Jews Jews than I am. You know

1565
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 2: I'm doing I'm trying to make up for it by

1566
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 2: doing Tony a bit of a midsvah today. But you know, listen,

1567
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 2: you note, listen, Scotty. You know the way it is

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01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 2: the most dangerous place to be is between Andrew Langer

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01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 2: and a microphone. So this is, this is, this is,

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Speaker 2: this is, this is why I'm in here.

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01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 3: Well, I just wanted the public.

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01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:34,719
Speaker 19: I wanted it on the record the appreciate that Tony

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01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:35,679
Speaker 19: Katz is better.

1574
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's a better Djew than you.

1575
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:40,480
Speaker 8: Okay, now back to your question talking about the shutdown.

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01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 5: Here's the thing.

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01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:43,560
Speaker 19: We had a shutdown in twenty eleven, actually it was

1578
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 19: October first, twenty eleven, underneath Brock Houssein Obama and his team,

1579
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 19: and it was really the Democrats shared it. They thought

1580
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 19: it was great, they thought it was wonderful. Then we

1581
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 19: had one in twenty eighteen, which which was under Donald Trump,

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01:23:58,120 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 19: and all of a sudden it was horrible.

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01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 3: The Democrats absolutely.

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01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 19: Hated that now we're under Trump again and we have

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01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 19: a shutdown. I have to tell you, this is the

1586
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 19: first time that I'm going to give in a long time,

1587
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 19: the just an absolute standing ovation to Republicans. Because they

1588
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 19: knew this was coming. They started ahead of time talking

1589
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 19: about how this was Schumer's shutdown messaging from day one,

1590
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 19: and that it was Democrats specifically wanting to guarantee aid

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01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 19: for illegals and utter for illegals as.

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Speaker 3: The main reason.

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Speaker 19: I mean, they were unified the messaging bravo across the board,

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01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 19: and that's why I think as long as this is happening,

1595
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 19: the American people want the government should shut down please

1596
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 19: by all means, this works for Republicans and it is

1597
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:41,520
Speaker 19: definitely hurting Democrats.

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01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's interesting because you know, you are someone

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01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 2: who I always look to and have asked you lots

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01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 2: of advice about messaging and media savviness. Are Republicans finally

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01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 2: learning their lesson about this about how to do this?

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01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 2: I mean, is that part of the Trump effect as

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01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 2: sort of being better at the showmanship side of things,

1605
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:01,719
Speaker 2: Not that we want we want there to be substance,

1606
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 2: but are we getting better at the storytelling part of it, well,

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01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 2: one would hope.

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01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 19: Or maybe they've just actually hired somebody over the age

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01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 19: of twenty eight, maybe to run the NRCC. I don't know,

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01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 19: whatever it is, I'm going to give them their due

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01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 19: right now, because this is what our problem has always been.

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01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 3: Now, let me point out we do need to clarify.

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Speaker 19: I was sitting in a meeting yesterday morning and I

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01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 19: had a member of the House Committee stand up and

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01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 19: he said, you know.

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Speaker 3: What Republicans do. We need to be unified.

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Speaker 19: But whenever they bring up health care, don't talk about it,

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01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 19: don't give it any sunlight. I absolutely and I agree

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01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 19: with the public disagreement in publicly absolutely take this to them.

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01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:40,599
Speaker 19: Talk about how the Democrats are taking fifty billion dollars

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01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 19: away from rural hospitals because they put that on us.

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01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 19: But why are they doing that Because they want these

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01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 19: massive conglomerates to come in and buy out these hospitals.

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01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 19: That's the reason they want healthcare to fail in the

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01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:54,599
Speaker 19: rural areas where they know that Republicans are more dominant

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01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 19: in their urban inner cities.

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Speaker 3: They want to put as.

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01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 8: Much harm and inflict much pain in those worlds because

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01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 8: they feel like those are the reasons why Republicans.

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Speaker 3: Even have any power. So let's point out these specifics.

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01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 2: No, no, go ahead, I know so and that you know,

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Speaker 2: it's interesting you say that because this is Jerry Rogers,

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01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 2: you know, you know, Jerry's my good buddy. Jerry was

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01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 2: on just a little bit ago talking about a different

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01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 2: aspect of the hospital issue, which is the fact that

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01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 2: so much of these subsidies go into the pockets of

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01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 2: these big hospital conglomerates, you know, sitting behind the scenes.

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01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:31,840
Speaker 3: And doing this. And I appreciate you sort of telling

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01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:34,680
Speaker 3: that other part of the story. And you're right, we

1640
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:35,400
Speaker 3: need to be.

1641
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 2: Better about getting out there and talking about this, talking

1642
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 2: about the fact that the Affordable Care Act actually has

1643
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 2: driven up premiums, that this is a Democrat created situation,

1644
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 2: that the Democrats made a false promise, you know, their

1645
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 2: doctors getting out of the business of practicing medicine. So

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01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 2: how long do you think it goes? I mean, I've

1647
01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 2: asked this question and some of it's been tongue in cheek.

1648
01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 2: The Democrats are supposed to go up to Napa, California

1649
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 2: or so now with the Wine country and do this

1650
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:05,839
Speaker 2: very plush retreat over Columbus Day weekend.

1651
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 3: They can't you go out to NAPA. But they're not

1652
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 3: going to cancel this thing.

1653
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 2: Or do they simply not care about the optics of

1654
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:17,719
Speaker 2: going and having a massive retreat in the Wine country

1655
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 2: while the government is shut down.

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01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:21,760
Speaker 5: I hope they do. I hope they go.

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01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 19: Anybody that has any sort of crisis management idea would say,

1658
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 19: please do not do this.

1659
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:28,720
Speaker 3: It's right to be absolute hell.

1660
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 5: But will they disregard it?

1661
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 19: Possibly They've disregarded and done stupid things in the past.

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01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 3: Here's the thing.

1663
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 19: It's Democrats, you know, want this done by Friday, by tomorrow.

1664
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 3: It's not going to end tomorrow. This is going to

1665
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 3: go on and on and on. I think you said

1666
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 3: Trump has no problem. He Republicans are.

1667
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 19: Here's the other thing from a political standpoint, up until now,

1668
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:52,880
Speaker 19: even with everything going on surrounding Charlie Kirk's.

1669
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 8: Death, and you did the huge rally and then the memorial.

1670
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 19: You would have thought the Republicans that were engaged, they're

1671
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 19: not the base. That little base engaged, But the average

1672
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 19: Republican is not.

1673
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 3: They're still living their everyday life.

1674
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:04,680
Speaker 14: Right.

1675
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 19: What the shutdown is doing, it's re engaging those folks.

1676
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 19: Those folks are going to add finally someone's taking some

1677
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:11,680
Speaker 19: action in.

1678
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:13,519
Speaker 5: The government because the government was broken.

1679
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 19: This was the dramatic move that Republicans have been asking

1680
01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:19,639
Speaker 19: for the Trump administration to do to get things done.

1681
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 3: President Trump like drama. Drama works well for him in

1682
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 3: this case.

1683
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 19: This is going to continue to work as long as

1684
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 19: Trump sees it working for him. The second he starts

1685
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:32,599
Speaker 19: to feel like it's not, which could be a week,

1686
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 19: it could be two weeks, could be the whole month,

1687
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 19: then then you'll see the reverse course.

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01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:38,679
Speaker 2: But you know, it's interesting because it brings up because

1689
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:41,640
Speaker 2: you know, I spoke out in Queen's County, Maryland last night,

1690
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:44,959
Speaker 2: and folks obviously was a Republican group, so they're very engaged,

1691
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:50,800
Speaker 2: but obviously applauding all of this. The other miscalculation on

1692
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 2: the part of the Democrats, I think is this idea

1693
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 2: we heard the clip earlier about well that didn't you

1694
01:28:56,840 --> 01:29:01,080
Speaker 2: know the vote russ vote is is going to fire people.

1695
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 2: Donald Trump's going to fire people anyway, Let's just let

1696
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:03,640
Speaker 2: them fire it.

1697
01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 3: That can't be.

1698
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 2: Sitting well with the average you know, the average government

1699
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 2: worker out there. They don't like politics being played with them.

1700
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:14,760
Speaker 2: Obviously they're going to vote for Democrats moving forward, but

1701
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:17,719
Speaker 2: we're now in this era of f around and find

1702
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:21,439
Speaker 2: out did the Democrats still not understand this and.

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01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 3: The Trump's going to fulfill it? They should? And here

1704
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:24,719
Speaker 3: to think about.

1705
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:27,640
Speaker 19: These government workers and God bless them. I feel I

1706
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 19: don't want anybody ever to lose their job.

1707
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:30,240
Speaker 3: It's horrible.

1708
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 19: At the same time, that's what the rest of us

1709
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 19: in the real world have to deal with every day.

1710
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 19: We have to have that risk of our And just

1711
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 19: because people used to think that if they got a

1712
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:42,120
Speaker 19: government job, it's almost impossible to lose a government job,

1713
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 19: it's impossible. Guess what, the rest of us it's not

1714
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 19: impossible because it's actually very easy to lose your job,

1715
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:50,559
Speaker 19: whether you deserve it or not. So it doesn't necessarily

1716
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 19: hurt Trump right now with government officials, and if anything,

1717
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:55,719
Speaker 19: no one has ever said our government is too small.

1718
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 19: Right we get to the point when people say that

1719
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 19: our government is too and it's too small, then we

1720
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:03,600
Speaker 19: can we can be.

1721
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:05,519
Speaker 5: Living in, you know, a world of sunshine and roses

1722
01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 5: every day.

1723
01:30:06,240 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 3: Nobody's saying that.

1724
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:07,200
Speaker 14: Now.

1725
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:09,960
Speaker 19: Everybody still feels like the US government the federal government

1726
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 19: is way too big. So once again it just fulfills

1727
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 19: another campaign promise and why people feel like they feel

1728
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:17,760
Speaker 19: good about their vote for Donald Trump.

1729
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:20,040
Speaker 3: All right, Scotty, you got about a minute and a

1730
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 3: half here.

1731
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 2: You Scotty is always always on me about making sure

1732
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:25,879
Speaker 2: that I am pop culture savvy?

1733
01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:27,280
Speaker 3: What am I missing?

1734
01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 2: What's what's what's What's the number one thing I ought

1735
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Speaker 2: to be looking at if I want to be caught

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01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:32,000
Speaker 2: pop culture savvy these days?

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Speaker 19: Of course, as then we're talking talk radio right now.

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01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:38,960
Speaker 19: Dancing with the Star, Oh my goodness, you have to

1739
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:40,960
Speaker 19: go and look at every night, even if you don't

1740
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:43,599
Speaker 19: like dancing and men, if you want to actually get

1741
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 19: in a little, if you want a little brownie points

1742
01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:48,360
Speaker 19: with your wife, which all of you need probably go

1743
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 19: and say, hey, do you want to watch Dancing with

1744
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:52,080
Speaker 19: the Stars with me? Get in with your teenagers, say

1745
01:30:52,160 --> 01:30:54,280
Speaker 19: let's make a family that with everything we're showing on

1746
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 19: Netflix right now and all the other crap, at least

1747
01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:00,760
Speaker 19: there some questionable points, but that right there is a

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01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 19: way to stay hip been cool.

1749
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Speaker 2: Would rather would rather have my family watching Dancing with

1750
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:08,720
Speaker 2: the Stars than your average you know, true crime podcast.

1751
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:11,560
Speaker 2: That's out there, So I get that, Scotty, how to

1752
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:13,840
Speaker 2: folks find out more You're doing such great work. You're

1753
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 2: you're getting involved in the policy world, and I'm so

1754
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 2: grateful that you are doing that. How to folks find

1755
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:19,200
Speaker 2: out more about what you're up to.

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Speaker 19: At Scotty and Hughes, Like you said, my Twitter account,

1757
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:23,599
Speaker 19: go follow me and find out all of the great.

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Speaker 5: Adventures that I'm on and trust me if there's a

1759
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Speaker 5: plethora of them.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, we tweeted out about with Scotty's link earlier,

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Speaker 2: Scotty nel Hughes keep keep apprized of what's going on.

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01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:35,400
Speaker 2: So we're gonna we're gonna talk about what jd vance

1763
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:38,480
Speaker 2: I had to say about this. Peel back the specifics

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Speaker 2: I you want to join the conversation, Facebook dot com,

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Speaker 2: slash Andrew Langer show at me at Andrew Underscore Langer.

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Speaker 3: This is Tony Katz Today. Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 2: I am Andrew Langer in for Tony Katz today. Man,

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Speaker 2: I'm so glad I had that that that little snack

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Speaker 2: at that you know, at the you know, the top

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Speaker 2: of the hour.

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Speaker 3: Before we came back on that that that was very

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Speaker 3: very helpful.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, guys, Hi, if you want to follow me at

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01:32:11,320 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 2: Andrew Underscore Langer on Twitter, uh, please do that. You

1775
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:18,280
Speaker 2: can find that everything that I'm up to, the speeches

1776
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:20,920
Speaker 2: that I'm giving, radio interviews that I'm doing. I do

1777
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:23,160
Speaker 2: a hit every Monday morning with John Justice out of

1778
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:26,160
Speaker 2: the Twin Cities. The podcast that I do Andrew and

1779
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:28,640
Speaker 2: Jerry Save the World. Jerry and I need to do

1780
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:32,919
Speaker 2: a new episode and soon we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna.

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Speaker 3: Work on that.

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Speaker 2: In the meantime, guys, So we're talking about the the

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Speaker 2: shutdown and the narrative, and I agree with Scottie wholeheartedly.

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01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:44,679
Speaker 2: They've gotten better at the messaging. And I think part

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01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:47,839
Speaker 2: of it is, you know, they somebody made the decision

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Speaker 2: and I don't know who it was. I should know

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Speaker 2: who it was if I'm going to go find out

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01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:55,680
Speaker 2: who it was who finally made the decision that we

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Speaker 2: were going to be the White House was going to

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Speaker 2: be ahead of the curve here that they were. I'm

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01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 2: not going to let the Democrats, not going to let

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Speaker 2: the establishment, not going to let the deep state sort

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Speaker 2: of call the tune that they were going to be

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01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:12,200
Speaker 2: the ones who called the tune and so they're setting

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Speaker 2: the narrative that's out there and they're not letting anything

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Speaker 2: deter them from that narrative. And they've tried, right, but

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Speaker 2: I think they they recognize. You know, I have this thing,

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Speaker 2: by the way, called the ninety six hour rule. You

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Speaker 2: can call it Langer's ninety six hour rule, and that

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Speaker 2: is that if a scandal erupts and the person at

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Speaker 2: the center of the scandal survives it for ninety six hours,

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Speaker 2: chances are they're going to survive it. You know, we

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Speaker 2: were having this conversation the other day about Pete hag

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Speaker 2: Seth and Pete hagg Seth being under fire, and folks

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Speaker 2: were like, oh, Pete Eseth is going to be forced

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Speaker 2: to resign blob. But I'm like, nah, ninety six hour rule,

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Speaker 2: sure enough. You know, the former governor of Virginia, That's

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Speaker 2: that's who I sort of developed this for, was the

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Speaker 2: former Democratic governor of Virginia, you know, Governor Blackface whose

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Speaker 2: name is now name is now escaping me. The doctor

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Speaker 2: multiple scandals survived them ninety six hours.

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Speaker 3: He survived it. But in any case, right, so, we've

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Speaker 3: got this.

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Speaker 2: Situation where the Republicans are putting out a talking point,

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Speaker 2: and the Democrats are trying to push back on this

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Speaker 2: talking point, but they are being unsuccessful in that regard. Centrally, right,

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Speaker 2: the central issue here is and obviously there are subsequent

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Speaker 2: issues right about hospitals and hospitals and rural hospitals, and

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Speaker 2: there's a law enforcement and about all of those things.

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Speaker 2: But fundamentally is this idea that the Democrats have shut

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Speaker 2: down the government because they want to make sure that

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Speaker 2: immigrants legal and illegal want to get you want to

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Speaker 2: get access to that they should have access to taxpayer

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Speaker 2: funded healthcare. And let's start with this. Here is Democratic

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Speaker 2: Representative Rocanna.

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Speaker 3: Who who admits this. So let's play cut number twelve

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Speaker 3: in terms of healthcare. The reality is they're just not

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Speaker 3: being honest.

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Speaker 24: The amount of money that actually is going towards that

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Speaker 24: people who are undocumented is such a small portion of

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Speaker 24: the Medicaid cuts or the Affordable Care Act, if at all,

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Speaker 24: And so we can argue that point, but the reality

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Speaker 24: that even the Vice President would acknowledge, that anyone who

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Speaker 24: looks at the numbers will acknowledge, is ninety to ninety

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Speaker 24: five percent of the funding we're talking about is talking

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Speaker 24: about funding for American citizens.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So let's take to ninety to ninety five percent.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know, it's only it's only it's only

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Speaker 2: ten percent. Ten percent of a trillion dollars is one

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Speaker 2: hundred billion dollars. Five percent of a trillion dollars is

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Speaker 2: fifty billion dollars. This is not jump change here. If

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Speaker 2: any of it does a small amount, if any of it,

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Speaker 2: you know, this is typical Washington double speak. You know,

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Speaker 2: a billionaire and a billion there, pretty soon you're talking.

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Speaker 3: About real money, you know.

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Speaker 2: And it would be one thing if it was if

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Speaker 2: it was just they were saying these things and they

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Speaker 2: were not getting checked.

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Speaker 3: And to an extent right they're not. But you get

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Speaker 3: these moments.

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Speaker 2: So here's how Kim Jeffries, the the Democratic leader in

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Speaker 2: the House, he is on safe ground with Jake Tapper,

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Speaker 2: and Jake Tapper's not having any of it.

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Speaker 12: You know.

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Speaker 2: I think it's one of these things where you get

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Speaker 2: these moments where the normal Democratic sick offense, like you

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Speaker 2: know something, I'm done, I'm done here, I just can't anymore.

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Speaker 2: Here is Jake Tapper. Let's be cut number eleven. Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump lest it as well. Jakiem Jaffer Hold off. That

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Speaker 2: was Kim Jeffries sort of, he teased the upsode. It's

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Speaker 2: like Kim Jeffries and they're sitting out. It was a

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Speaker 2: gorgeous night in DC last night. Anyway, go ahead, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: play cut number eleven.

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump blest it as well.

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Speaker 25: So let me ask you about a provision that the

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Speaker 25: Republicans are talking about quite a bit. I know you

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Speaker 25: want to talk about and Democrats want to talk about

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Speaker 25: extending the Obamacare subsidies which expire at the end of

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Speaker 25: twenty twenty five, but they talk about the provisions and

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Speaker 25: it's right here, Subtitle E. And this has to do

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Speaker 25: with the repeal of healthcare subtitle changes and specifically what

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Speaker 25: it is. How they character characterize it as you want

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Speaker 25: to give health insurance to undocumented immigrants.

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Speaker 3: I understand that's not really an accurate depiction. But what

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Speaker 3: it does do is it's a lie. It's a lie.

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Speaker 25: But what you support does bring back funding for emergency

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Speaker 25: medicaid to hospitals, some of which does pay for undocumented

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Speaker 25: immigrants and people who don't have health insurance. And also

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Speaker 25: there is this provision and it's not about undocumented immigrants,

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Speaker 25: it's about people with asylum seekers and people with temporary

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Speaker 25: protected status, et cetera, et cetera. But about their ability

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Speaker 25: to get medicaid. So they're non citizens, they're not undocumented,

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Speaker 25: they're not illegal. Why even include that in a bill

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Speaker 25: knowing that they're going to seize right upon that and

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Speaker 25: use that as a message.

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Speaker 2: I understand why, because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: they think you're stupid, as Jerry Rogers said, and they

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01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:19,960
Speaker 2: think the media is not going to call them out

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Speaker 2: on it, which they are now. Obviously Jake Tapper is

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Speaker 2: carrying a lot of water for Hakeem Jefferys there, you know,

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Speaker 2: And it was one of those things we all know

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Speaker 2: that when you use a phrase then you say, but

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01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:36,160
Speaker 2: anything before the butt is garbage. It's it's it's it's

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Speaker 2: not true. You don't believe in it. Oh you know,

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01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:42,840
Speaker 2: you're something, you're you're you're you've gotten really skinny. But okay,

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01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:45,000
Speaker 2: then you're not really skinny. Oh you know something, you

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01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:48,000
Speaker 2: look super young, but well then you know you don't.

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Speaker 2: And so so Jake Tapper is saying, oh, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's it's not true, and Hakim Jeffery says, well, it's

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Speaker 2: a lie, except it's not a lie. And this is

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Speaker 2: this is where you want to plant your flag. This

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01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:10,000
Speaker 2: is where you this is the the the top of

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01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:13,519
Speaker 2: the hill you want to defend. You're going to shut

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Speaker 2: down the government and force federal workers, possibly out of

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01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:23,920
Speaker 2: their jobs permanently, so that immigrants, legal and illegal, can

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Speaker 2: get taxpayer funded healthcare. I mean that that somehow is

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01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:33,559
Speaker 2: the moral position for you. I don't like framing these

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01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:36,599
Speaker 2: things in sort of moral or ethical terms. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think get us so much of this can be

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Speaker 2: up for debate and discussion ethically. It's it's it's it's

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Speaker 2: it's much. It's much easier to sort of make cases

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Speaker 2: on these things. But at the at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day, this is what you're gonna do. You're gonna say,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, this is the choice we're making, and it's

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Speaker 2: the choice of a new generation.

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Speaker 3: Notes, this is the choice that we're making here. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, it is, it is.

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Speaker 2: It is astounding, and you know, I mean, let me

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Speaker 2: let me this sort before we move on from here.

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Speaker 2: About the numbers, here is the Speaker of the House,

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Speaker 2: Mike Johnson, talking about it. Let's play cut number nine landed.

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Speaker 3: If you could Chuck Schimmer was in the Oval Office

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Speaker 3: with me what forty eight hours ago? We were there.

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Speaker 23: The President as a strong leader. He brought all of

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Speaker 23: us in, all four leaders, Dune and Schumer and myself

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Speaker 23: and Hakim.

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Speaker 3: Jeffers, and the President said, make your case. What is

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Speaker 3: it you want?

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Speaker 23: And Chuck Schumer repeated in that meeting what he put

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Speaker 23: on paper.

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Speaker 3: The counter proposal that he filed.

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Speaker 23: Everyone can go read it for themselves, would add one

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Speaker 23: point five trillion dollars in new.

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Speaker 3: Spending on a seven week stopgut measure. We're not doing that.

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Speaker 3: He wants to give healthcare to illegal aliens. Again, we're

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Speaker 3: not doing that.

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Speaker 23: He wanted to claw back fifty billion dollars that are

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Speaker 23: Republican big beautiful bill put in to prop up rural hospitals. Now,

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01:40:56,400 --> 01:40:57,960
Speaker 23: people say, why would he do that. I thought he

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Speaker 23: was for healthcare. Well, a lot of those rural hospitals,

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Speaker 23: most of them are in Red states.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know. I don't know what his motivation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's just it. Listen, they they think. The

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Speaker 2: bottom line is they think the American people are stupid. Now,

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Speaker 2: when we come back, I want to because I want to.

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Speaker 3: I love listening to JD. Vance.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna hear what Jady Vance has had to say

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Speaker 2: about these things and why JD. Vance is the leading

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Speaker 2: candidate going into it. I mean, obviously some combination.

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Speaker 3: Of Vance and Rubio is going to be I think

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Speaker 3: going to.

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Speaker 2: Be the GOP ticket. But let's uh, you were going

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Speaker 2: to hear from him. I want to hear from you

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Speaker 2: for one. I almost gave it another number at Andrew

1955
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Speaker 2: Underscore Langer on Twitter? Is how you get ahold of me?

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Speaker 2: I'm Andrew Langer. This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. I am Andrew Langer.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk a little bit in a couple

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Speaker 2: of minutes about how you can find out more about

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Speaker 2: the work that I'm doing.

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Speaker 3: If you want to follow me, if you like what

1962
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Speaker 3: you hear, yes I am.

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Speaker 2: I am not as good at you as as Tony

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Speaker 2: Kats but but a better, but a better jew than

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Speaker 2: than uh uh Hakeem Jeffreys. So that's so listen, It's

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Speaker 2: it's all a matter of of where things stand. Anyway, Hi, everybody.

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Speaker 2: So we are in the midst of this shutdown, the

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Speaker 2: the Schuemer Siesta, as Sean Ferish said, in fact, of

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Speaker 2: my favorite landon. I'm sorry, we go to jump down here,

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Speaker 2: play cut number one again. This is this Trump impersonator Sean.

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Speaker 10: Ferish olah me fellow americanos Cee bing dontos salcierre de Schumer.

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Speaker 10: That means welcome to the Schumer shutdown. We call it

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Speaker 10: the Schumer Siesta.

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 7: I love it.

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Speaker 2: I love it, the the Schumer Siesta. You know, we

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Speaker 2: all do, we all do our impressions of Donald Trump,

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Speaker 2: but you know, it's one of these things. It's what

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Speaker 2: I what I appreciate about jd. Vance is a jd

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Speaker 2: Vance doesn't suffer foolishness gladly, and he's able to articulate.

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Speaker 2: I know, this is my problem. I appreciate a political

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Speaker 2: leader who can articulate a vision. It's one of the

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Speaker 2: reasons why I was an early fan of Ted Cruz.

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Speaker 2: First time I ever heard Ted Cruz give a speech,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I like this guy. I liked what he

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Speaker 2: had to say, and I liked how he had to

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Speaker 2: say it.

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Speaker 3: You know, with jd.

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Speaker 2: Vance, it's thoughtful, but it's aggressive. Here he is talking

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Speaker 2: about why this is a stupid shutdown. Let's go ahead

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Speaker 2: and play cut number four.

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Speaker 3: You already see.

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Speaker 26: I think the Democrats cracking a little bit because they

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Speaker 26: realize it's such a preposterous position to say, we're gonna

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Speaker 26: shut down TSA, We're going to not pay our troops

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Speaker 26: because you guys won't give us benefits for illegal aliens.

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Speaker 26: It's crazy, and I don't think it's a tenable political

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Speaker 26: situation for them to be in.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not, especially because it becomes so apparent when

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Speaker 2: you've got Jake Tamper sort of pointing out chapter and

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Speaker 2: verse even as he's desperately trying not to. It makes

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Speaker 2: it very difficult for them to hold onto their narrative.

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Speaker 2: Of course, jd Vance has a firm grasp of the fact,

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Speaker 2: so he gets into specifics. Let's go and play cut

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Speaker 2: number five. This is a Democrat talking point. They say,

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Speaker 2: we're not actually trying to give healthcare benefits.

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Speaker 26: To illegal aliens. And here's why it's not true. There

2008
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Speaker 26: are two Biden era programs that explicitly gave the taxpayer

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Speaker 26: healthcare money to illegal aliens that we turned off when

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Speaker 26: President Trump took over in January. Program number one is

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Speaker 26: there's a lot of emergency healthcare at hospitals that are

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Speaker 26: provided to illegal aliens that was funded by the federal government.

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Speaker 26: We turned off that funding because of course, we want

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Speaker 26: American citizens to benefit from those hospital services, not to

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Speaker 26: be tax and then to have those hospital services go

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Speaker 26: to illegal aliens. The second of which is that the

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Speaker 26: Biden administration gave mass parole to millions upon millions of

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Speaker 26: illegal aliens, and then they simultaneously made those paroleees eligible

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Speaker 26: for healthcare benefits funded by taxpayers. In the One Big

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Speaker 26: Beautiful Bill, President Trump and congressional Republicans turned off that

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Speaker 26: money to healthcare funding for illegal aliens. The Democrats want

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Speaker 26: to turn it back on, and in their initial proposal,

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Speaker 26: the first thing that they put out to reopen the government,

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Speaker 26: they actually turned that money for healthcare benefits for illegal

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Speaker 26: aliens back on.

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Speaker 3: Now about for a second.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the one thing we haven't discussed today

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Speaker 2: is the fact that the other idiotic thing that the

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Speaker 2: Democrats want to do is they want to restore a

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Speaker 2: half a billion dollars in funding for public radio and

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Speaker 2: public television.

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Speaker 3: I mean again, read the room people this idea, and

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Speaker 3: I get it right.

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Speaker 2: We want we want our MPR, we want our PBS.

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Speaker 2: No one's stopping you from supporting those things. No one

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Speaker 2: supporting I'm sorry. No one is stopping any charitable foundation.

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Speaker 2: No one is stopping George Soros from spending millions, if

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Speaker 2: not billions of dollars on on the Corporation for Public

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Speaker 2: Broadcasting NPR and PBS. Right, And I would dare say,

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Speaker 2: by the way, I don't think that there is a

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Speaker 2: single NPR station or PBS station that is that is

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Speaker 2: not operating today, right, you know, in the wake of

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Speaker 2: all of this, right in the wake of the new

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Speaker 2: fiscal year, so clearly right, they they found the money somehow.

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Speaker 2: And then there, by the way, there's this meme going

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Speaker 2: around about with sombreros. And because of course the Democrats

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Speaker 2: have no sense of humor, because you know, literally, what

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Speaker 2: they think is funny is not funny, and what is

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Speaker 2: funny they don't think is funny at all. Right, that

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Speaker 2: actually is the way you describe a Democrats sense of humor.

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Speaker 3: JD. Vans has to explain the sombrero meme to them.

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Speaker 3: Let's see here cut number six, rare thing.

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Speaker 26: I mean, Hakeem Jeffrey said it was a racist and

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Speaker 26: I know that he said that, and I honestly don't

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Speaker 26: even know what that means like, is is he a

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Speaker 26: Mexican American that is offended by having a sombrero meme?

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Speaker 26: And I saw one of the major TV stations put

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Speaker 26: the meme up and then say this is AI generated

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Speaker 26: and he had like the curly animated mustache too. It's like,

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Speaker 26: do the American people do you really not realize the

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Speaker 26: American people recognize that he did not actually come to

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Speaker 26: the White House wearing a sombrero and a black curly

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Speaker 26: animation mustache, Like, give the country a little bit of credit.

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Speaker 26: We're all trying to do a very important job for

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Speaker 26: the American people. The President the United States likes to

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Speaker 26: have a little bit of fun when he's doing it,

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Speaker 26: and I think that's okay, I'll take one right.

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Speaker 2: It's like having to explain the ballpoint pen the auto

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Speaker 2: pen joke. Well, you know something, here's a disclaimer. Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden was not really a pen.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 2: Guff there, chet, We all understand this, So listen. It's

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Speaker 2: been a thin slice of heaven, as it always is

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Speaker 2: when I fill in for Tony. If you like what

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Speaker 2: you hear, go and follow me on Twitter at Andrew

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Speaker 2: Underscore Langer l a n g er check out my

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Speaker 2: lunch Hour podcast, my weekly deep dive into public policy,

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Speaker 2: the work that I'm doing for CPAs and the coalitioning

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Speaker 2: and socialized medicine. Have a great night, everybody, have a

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Speaker 2: great week, have fun, and please, as always, stay safe,