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Speaker 1: Hammer and Nigel Do you believe these characters are weirdos?

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Speaker 2: Hammer and Nigel show, I'm Hammer, but Big Nige is

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Speaker 2: on spring Break. So Jerry Lopez Indie Spanglish on social

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Speaker 2: media part of Those ash Holes podcast with us thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for writing Shotgun. Here. I saw a

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Speaker 2: pretty funny stand up comedy show over the weekend comedian Jim.

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Speaker 3: Brewer Saturday Night Live, Half Baked.

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Speaker 2: You guys know Jim Brewer, Right, yeah, Man, bring back

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Speaker 2: some water and some fun news. A big part of

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Speaker 2: his set was how he believes in conspiracies because they

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Speaker 2: always come true.

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Speaker 4: Nowadays they are undefeated, Hammer, They are undefeated.

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Speaker 2: Last couple of years, conspiracy theorists have been on a

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Speaker 2: bit of a heater.

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Speaker 4: Just wait five years and then they'll be right.

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Speaker 3: So let's talk a little con fears he theories, shall we.

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Speaker 3: Let's go full Alex Jones here, can we? So Charlie

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Speaker 3: Kirk's murder?

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Speaker 4: Oh gosh, I'm sorry I reposted this.

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Speaker 2: Candace Owens has been doing ridiculous things, bringing attention to herself,

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Speaker 2: talking about Erica Kirk, talking about Charlie Kirk, Who's really

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Speaker 2: responsible for the death of Charlie.

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Speaker 4: Kirk, who's a time traveler according to to her right now,

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Speaker 4: he's a time traveler.

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Speaker 2: And then you've got headlines like this from the Daily

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Speaker 2: Mail quote bombshell update as bullet used to kill Charlie

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Speaker 2: Kirk did not match Tyler Robinson's rifle. Repost and you

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Speaker 2: saw that, Jerry repost and without reading the article, you

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Speaker 2: just hit reposts.

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Speaker 3: You didn't have to do that. I had to repost.

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Speaker 4: And now look at the comments, and Hammer's like, dude,

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Speaker 4: if you just click on it and read, he said

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Speaker 4: something depletely.

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Speaker 3: Different myself and Tony Kennick, my friends ate me up

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Speaker 3: on my own head You were getting cooked on your

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Speaker 3: own post, Jerry.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't happen often, but I left it up because

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Speaker 4: I'm a man.

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Speaker 2: So if you read the article, one, this isn't anything new.

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Speaker 2: And number two, the defense is just challenging the procedures

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Speaker 2: to match the bullet. The bullet had a little wear

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Speaker 2: and tear on it, Okay, So it's completely misleading headline.

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Speaker 2: You're going to think that the bullet they found in

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Speaker 2: no way would match Tyler Robinson's rifle. That's not what

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Speaker 2: they're saying at all. But that's what the headline says,

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Speaker 2: and because the Daily Mail wrote it and people like

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Speaker 2: Indie Spanglish reposted, then it goes viral, then it goes everywhere,

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Speaker 2: and this crap is all over the place now, and

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Speaker 2: all the Candace Owens fanboys and girls are taking off

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Speaker 2: their pants and doing unspeakable things because they think this

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Speaker 2: proves there's a conspiracy theory in their right. Here's a

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Speaker 2: rifle expert, and he made a great video breaking down

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Speaker 2: everything that we know about this quote unquote bombshell update.

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Speaker 5: The rifle used to kill Charlie Kirk was a thirty six,

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Speaker 5: and we knew in October that the bullet could not

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Speaker 5: be matched because it was most likely a soft point

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Speaker 5: thirty odd six cartridge, which is the most commonly used

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Speaker 5: and purchased type of ammunition for that rifle, and soft

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Speaker 5: point ammunition, which looks like this right, has a rounded tip,

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Speaker 5: and it is a soft point. It's literally designed to

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Speaker 5: expand and if it hit something like dense bone, it's

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Speaker 5: probably not going through anything. Hence, while there was probably

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Speaker 5: no exit wound when it hit Charlie's spine. Now, this

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Speaker 5: new bombshell court filing of the thing that we already

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Speaker 5: knew was filed by the defense, and they wouldn't be

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Speaker 5: doing their job if they didn't file it. But reporting

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Speaker 5: on it like it's new information, well, that's just there

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Speaker 5: were reports filed and several different kinds of DNA were

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Speaker 5: found on some items like Charlie's shirt or necklace would

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Speaker 5: probably have more than one DNA on it. Only one

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Speaker 5: DNA I think was found on the rifle, and that

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Speaker 5: was Tyler Robinson's.

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Speaker 2: They don't tell you that part, then go, of course

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Speaker 2: you're going to find more DNA on Charlie. People were

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Speaker 2: trying to save his life. They were grabbing him, they

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Speaker 2: were taking him behind the tent, they were trying to

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Speaker 2: perform CPR. They had to rip his shirt off. Of

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Speaker 2: course there's going to be more DNA. But the one

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Speaker 2: place there's only one set of DNA is the rifle

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Speaker 2: that was found that belonged to Tyler Robinson. And again

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Speaker 2: you heard him break down the ammunition debate here. This

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Speaker 2: is not a bombshell, This is old information. We already

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Speaker 2: knew this, and he's right about one thing. Jerry, the

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Speaker 2: defense team of Tyler Robinson, they're playing this perfectly. They're

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Speaker 2: winning the media battle here. They've got Candae Owens fighting

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Speaker 2: their fight. They've got the Daily Mail putting out read

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Speaker 2: damndiculous bull crap headlines and people are buying it hook

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Speaker 2: line and sinker. They're doing their jobs perfectly, but the

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Speaker 2: problem is nobody wants to read the story to find

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Speaker 2: out that it's bunk.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I just wanted to do my part to show you

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Speaker 4: guys how important it is to actually read the articles

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Speaker 4: before you post them.

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Speaker 3: See, it was a teaching lesson.

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Speaker 4: Listen, this is an area for opportunity, right, it was

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Speaker 4: a growing Uh.

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Speaker 3: I got a nameless dude, I got a U.

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Speaker 4: If you're bored right now, go to Jerry Lopez on Facebook.

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Speaker 4: I reposted this. My friends chew me out on this

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Speaker 4: post and rightfully. So that's what good friends do, right

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Speaker 4: They tell you you're wrong.

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Speaker 2: There's a meme where Kermit is hugging another Muppet and

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Speaker 2: is going, dude, you're getting cooked in the comments.

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Speaker 3: Right now, and honestly, you bleeping deserve it. That was

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Speaker 3: you yesterday for sharing this crap. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Also, in the Tyler Robinson case, the prosecution has announced

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Speaker 2: they intend to call Tyler Robinson's parents and his dude

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Speaker 2: romantic partner, his trans gay lover to testify at the

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Speaker 2: preliminary hearing.

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Speaker 4: I think her name is Lance.

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Speaker 3: Her name is Lance. Somebody just woke up from a

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Speaker 3: coma was like what.

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Speaker 2: This is significant because these are the people closest to

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Speaker 2: Tyler Robinson, his parents and the weird romantic partner that

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Speaker 2: he lived with. These are the prosecution's witnesses. So I'm

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Speaker 2: hoping they allow cameras in there. I know Erica was

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Speaker 2: lobbying four cameras to be involved.

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Speaker 4: This is going to be a show, yeah, and you

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Speaker 4: know so I hope that his partner does the right

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Speaker 4: thing and just is open. We've lost somebody, and I

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Speaker 4: don't care what side of the aisle you're on in America.

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Speaker 4: As a veteran, I fought for you to disagree with

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Speaker 4: everybody so you can I hear in Black Lives Matter

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Speaker 4: and be the hell the KKK. You have a right

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Speaker 4: to be an idiot. I fought for that. I hope

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Speaker 4: Lance Twig shows up and does the right thing.

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Speaker 3: More conspiracy stuff. JD.

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Speaker 2: Vance was doing an interview and says that he thinks

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Speaker 2: aliens are actually demons from hell and he vows to

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Speaker 2: get to the bottom of the UFO files that President

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Speaker 2: Trump wants to release.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, I think that celestial beings who fly around

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Speaker 1: to do weird things to people. I think that the

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Speaker 1: desire to describe everything celestial, everything is otherworldly, to describe

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Speaker 1: it as aliens. I mean, every great world religion, including Christianity,

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Speaker 1: the one that I believe in, has has understood that

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Speaker 1: there are weird things out there, and there are things

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Speaker 1: that are very difficult to explain, and I naturally go

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Speaker 1: when I hear about sort of extra natural phenomenon.

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Speaker 3: That's where I go to.

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Speaker 1: Is the Christian understanding that you know, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of good out there, but there's also some evil out there.

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Speaker 1: And I think that one of the devil's great tricks

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Speaker 1: is to convince people we never existed.

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Speaker 3: So jd. Vance is kind of an alien nerd.

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Speaker 2: He was super excited about these UFO files.

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Speaker 3: That Trump wanted to release.

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Speaker 2: Well, then the war and Iran happened and it kind

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Speaker 2: of took away all the mojo from that and nobody's

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Speaker 2: had time to talk aliens.

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Speaker 3: But Jdvance is still very much in it. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: think all of us are in it. We want to know.

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Speaker 4: But I think there's a big problem for the government

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Speaker 4: if I realize somebody could just show up and blow

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Speaker 4: this whole thing up immediately, that would cause a problem

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Speaker 4: for them, for the religious z lives, for all those people,

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Speaker 4: Like maybe they don't want to tell us what's really out.

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Speaker 2: There, But if you think aliens are really demons from hell,

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Speaker 2: do you just sit on that inform or do you

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Speaker 2: do you go out and tell everybody you know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, listen, anybody who's been divorced, you've lived with one,

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Speaker 4: you'll be okay to shame.

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Speaker 3: There you go,