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Speaker 1: So it's that weird time of year, right, it's that

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Speaker 1: Do you you are you a crack the windows on

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Speaker 1: cold night? Guy? I would if I could, I would

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Speaker 2: Olivia likes it toasty. I like it freezing cold. Well,

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Speaker 2: it's because you've got the insulation. Thank you for the reminder.

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Speaker 1: Well, she's the one that told you that good afternoon

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Speaker 1: to you on a Tuesday. My name is Jake Quarry,

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Speaker 1: Eddie Garrison, the other boy you just heard it is

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Speaker 1: Quary and Company here on ninety three five and one

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Speaker 1: one to Oh, I've already seen the graphics. I've already

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Speaker 1: seen the tweets, the posts, the Facebook, the instagrams, the

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Speaker 1: whatever else going around. Repost. If your team is undefeated,

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Speaker 1: there are two of them in the AFC South, Colts

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Speaker 1: to guess three unbeaten teams in one division? Yes, that

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Speaker 1: would be the AFC or NFC West, That is correct,

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Speaker 2: It's not the South, correct, it's not the South of

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Speaker 1: That would be the Las Vegas Raiders, right, although I

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Speaker 1: mean didn't they who did they beat? Did they beat Tennessee, Ma?

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Speaker 1: Or no? They beat New England? Right? Yes, that was

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Speaker 1: the battle of which of us said which of us

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Speaker 1: I did New England still may who knows. So you

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Speaker 1: have the Raiders unbeaten, the Chargers unbeaten, and then the

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Speaker 1: team that's coming to Lucas Oil Stateium coming up this

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Speaker 1: weekend in the pillow fight of unbeatens, the Denver Broncos

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Speaker 1: it is the Peyton Manning bull. It's the unbeaten in

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Speaker 1: twenty five ball. And there's a lot to be optimistic

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Speaker 1: areas that are of surprise, optimism, positive outlook besides the

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Speaker 1: backfield is an area that what have I always said,

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Speaker 1: Just when you think you have the favorite pair, you

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Speaker 1: oh white, they're cracked. And that kind of holds true

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Speaker 1: That's right, that was it. That was not a bad impersonation.

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Speaker 1: Let me just tell you this. There are two scenes

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Speaker 1: And the other one is when he yells out Wilson,

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Speaker 2: No, thank you, I'll let you do it.

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Speaker 1: Caleb is in here observing and hanging out. Caleb, would

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Speaker 1: you like to guess you'll find this out with me, Jake.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll let you retreat back to your island with

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Speaker 1: a report. What I'm about to say, this is strictly speculation,

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Speaker 1: and yes, he got on the field on Sunday. But

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Speaker 1: I'm getting a little too excited, but I am curious.

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Speaker 1: She doesn't say specifically that the Rams won the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: Is correct, Jake, seven point thirty tonight they on the double.

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Speaker 2: Your NBA Commissioner's Cup. Not to give me, not to

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Speaker 2: That's what it's called. Pascalio has already been ruled.

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Speaker 1: For what reason were you only in Chicago? What was

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Speaker 2: Went to the Wrigley Field, watched the Reds Cubs and

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Speaker 1: So you didn't notice the one big building, like I mean,

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Speaker 1: but I have wondered if eventually, once you go through,

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Speaker 1: like an entire cycle of players that have gone even

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Speaker 1: in the NIL transfer era, say four years at a

433
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Speaker 1: respective school, if they're if it doesn't dilute out their

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Speaker 1: recruiting because word starts to travel amongst young people about

435
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Speaker 1: what a hassle the travel is of playing for a

436
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Speaker 1: program where the majority of your road games are taking

437
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Speaker 1: place three time zones away and just I mean, I

438
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Speaker 1: mean four hour flights every single away game except for

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Speaker 1: the one or two that you're playing against your other

440
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Speaker 1: brethren that that joined in from the PAC ten does

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Speaker 1: that eventually begin to hurt it? And I know I

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Speaker 1: was not like an old man when I say that,

443
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Speaker 1: but are there young people that are gonna be like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I was going to go to Oregon, but

445
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Speaker 1: I was talking to a guy that went to my

446
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Speaker 1: high school five years ago that was a quarterback for them,

447
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Speaker 1: and he was saying, like it just it was such

448
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Speaker 1: a nightmare having to constantly get on and fly for

449
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Speaker 1: four hours to play a game. So instead, I'm actually

450
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Speaker 1: going to go to you know, insert name of school

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Speaker 1: on the West coast that plays in a more regionalized conference.

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Speaker 1: And with that, when I think about things that canna

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Speaker 1: have impact on players wanting to play in a market,

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Speaker 1: there was something that came to my attention yesterday from

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Speaker 1: not just football and basketball amongst players, when it came

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Speaker 1: to this city of Indianapolis. And I hope, because what

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Speaker 1: they were talking about was a while ago that it

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Speaker 1: doesn't have impact today. But I think it's something that

459
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Speaker 1: we need to listen to nonetheless. And we will get

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Speaker 1: into that today on the program as well. But when

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Speaker 1: we come back. She is the head coach of the

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Speaker 1: Indiana Fever. They are in action tonight taking on Minnesota

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Speaker 1: and then it's playoffs for the WNBA and for the

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Speaker 1: Fever themselves. Stephanie White, the head coach, joins us next

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Speaker 1: you know, one of the main reasons I was excited

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Speaker 1: to have on coach Stephanie White was because I knew

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Speaker 1: that we were in debt one of the Taylor Swift

468
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Speaker 1: re entries, because we didn't get a chance upon her

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Speaker 1: request last time. So I just wanted to get that

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Speaker 1: one out of the way. I have nothing against Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 1: I think she's a phenomenal performer, and I know people

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Speaker 1: love her music, but like it, just it ain't my groove,

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Speaker 1: so to speak. Right joining us now, you're thrilled to

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Speaker 1: be doing so based on that intro. She is the

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Speaker 1: head coach of the Indiana Fever, who tonight finished the

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Speaker 1: regular season with a game at seven thirty. You can

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Speaker 1: hear the pregame at seven fifteen with Eddie between the

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Speaker 1: Fever and the Minnesota Lynx, and Stephanie White has her

479
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Speaker 1: team bound for the playoffs. After that, coach, how.

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Speaker 5: Are you, I'm well, how are you?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Well? I mean, listen, I waded through the Taylor Swift

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Speaker 1: thing there. I got through it just okay, right, I

484
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Speaker 1: mean that was okay. I don't think any really played

485
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Speaker 1: enough of it though, for to really what your whistle? Right?

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Speaker 5: No, I mean I can't believe that that catchy tune

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Speaker 5: that you weren't sitting along.

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Speaker 1: It's not bad.

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Speaker 5: It's not Oasis.

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Speaker 1: But listen now, I have I have somewhat bad news

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Speaker 1: for you here, coach. I went to the Oasis concert

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Speaker 1: at the Rose Bowl on Saturday night, and I thought

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Speaker 1: the the urine flying cups was just a British thing,

494
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Speaker 1: and it appears as though it's not.

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Speaker 5: It's not. So yeah, that's really bad.

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Speaker 1: So if you go to a show to go see Oasis,

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Speaker 1: just you don't want to be on the main floor.

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Speaker 1: Up in the stands. You're fine. Down on the main

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Speaker 1: floor a little bit dangerous.

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Speaker 5: It's probably as likely of a chance of me going

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Speaker 5: to Asis as you go on Taylor's okay.

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Speaker 1: It's fair point taking. Okay, let's get to this to

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Speaker 1: begin with tonight, and that is, you know, you have

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Speaker 1: a situation here that's unique because Minnesota is very good.

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Speaker 1: We know that Minnesota may also you know, they may

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Speaker 1: have some players that are not available, but there's still

507
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Speaker 1: a lot to play for. This is not one because

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Speaker 1: sometimes we see it like at the end of the year,

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Speaker 1: where you say, hey, we've got the postseason to get

510
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Speaker 1: ready for, and so therefore we're maybe going to do

511
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Speaker 1: things differently or rest or not show everything. But this

512
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Speaker 1: is a big one for you tonight because you still

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Speaker 1: have seating that is in play. Correct, That's correct.

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Speaker 5: Yes, we've got seating that's in play. And for us

515
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 5: again continuing to really mesh our new players and be

516
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Speaker 5: clicking as much on all cylinders as we possibly can

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Speaker 5: heading into the playoffs. So seating implications, yes, certainly, but

518
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Speaker 5: also momentum, just just continuing to build strong, positive momentum

519
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Speaker 5: with our group.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about this with that, okay, And I

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Speaker 1: this is going to sound weird the way I ask this,

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Speaker 1: but with so much talk that has been and I

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Speaker 1: don't mean within your locker room, okay, but the media,

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Speaker 1: the fans, you know, anywhere you turn, with so much

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Speaker 1: of the season conversation being about the question of the

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Speaker 1: availability of Caitlyn Clark as a coach, how did you

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Speaker 1: address to your team so that there is not a

528
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Speaker 1: resentment of Look, we are defined by who we are,

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Speaker 1: not who we are not? Does that make sense what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying? And you know, how did you balance that

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Speaker 1: to keep the rest of the roster aware of and

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Speaker 1: on task and on point of the fact that you

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Speaker 1: are all professionals that have a chance to win in

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Speaker 1: this league and you can't pay attention to people worrying

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Speaker 1: and wondering about who's not here.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean we talk about it frequently, just the

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Speaker 5: being able to you know, for for lack of a

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Speaker 5: better term, silence the noise, which which it's it's it's

539
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Speaker 5: very difficult to do right. There's the noise that are

540
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Speaker 5: outside the building, outside the locker room, and and and

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Speaker 5: you really have to make it a point to set boundaries,

542
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Speaker 5: and and you've got to make points to to invest

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Speaker 5: in in in us and one another. And we talked,

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Speaker 5: we've talked about that since the beginning of the season.

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Speaker 5: We knew that there were going to be lots of expectations.

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Speaker 5: We know that there are lots of fans and and

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Speaker 5: there are lots of people who aren't fans who have

548
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Speaker 5: taken who aren't w NBA fans or Women's basketball fans,

549
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Speaker 5: who have taken an interest in our team. And and

550
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Speaker 5: so for us, it's it's more about pouring into what's

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Speaker 5: in our locker room. And so we haven't had to

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Speaker 5: have outside of just continual reminders, constant conversations. I I

553
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Speaker 5: think and I hope and I believe that you know,

554
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Speaker 5: for us, the way that we interact with one another

555
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Speaker 5: on a daily basis, the way that we prioritize our

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Speaker 5: team over over indo visual are we over me and

557
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Speaker 5: pouring into the relationships on this team that you you

558
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Speaker 5: get that, and you know that, and you know that

559
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Speaker 5: it's about who's on the floor just as much as

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Speaker 5: who's not on the floor. But those people who are

561
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Speaker 5: not on the floor are still very much a part

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Speaker 5: of the fabric of who we are. And I think

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Speaker 5: it's everything from our daily engagement with one another to

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Speaker 5: their daily engagement with their teammates even though they're not

565
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Speaker 5: playing on the floor. It's really about relationship and how

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Speaker 5: we've continued to build relationship and and at the end

567
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Speaker 5: of the day, there are a lot of narratives that

568
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Speaker 5: are out there in the media in social media that

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Speaker 5: absolutely aren't true. And because we know them, we know

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Speaker 5: what is true. It's able to keep keep our players

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Speaker 5: engaged in what really matters.

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Speaker 1: What player on your roster that is you know that

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Speaker 1: is going to be playing for you in the playoffs

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Speaker 1: is the key to your resiliency.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know if if it's any one player,

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Speaker 5: I think it's it really is the the sum is

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Speaker 5: greater than its parts. Know, I think our you know,

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Speaker 5: u Aliah Boston is a great communicator and connector uh

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Speaker 5: you know, Natasha Howard has been a really good leader

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Speaker 5: for our group. You know, Kelsey Mitchell has put us

581
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Speaker 5: on on our on our back. You know, I think

582
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Speaker 5: when you have players like that that that have been

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Speaker 5: on the floor, and then you you look at at

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Speaker 5: Sidney Colson who's been a part of championship teams, who

585
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Speaker 5: is also like a coach on the floor, and now

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Speaker 5: she's she's on the venture in practice coaching us on

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Speaker 5: the sideline. And you know Sophie who brings energy and

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Speaker 5: uh and and and Caitlin who has been working her

589
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Speaker 5: way back but still actively involved on the sideline of

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Speaker 5: pouring into her teammates. I mean, you know, all of

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Speaker 5: all of it matters, and so I don't know if

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Speaker 5: there's any one singular. I just think we have a

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Speaker 5: really good, solid group of women who pour into each

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Speaker 5: other on a daily basis, and and that allow us

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Speaker 5: to be allow us to be uh be be better

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Speaker 5: as a unit.

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Speaker 1: By the way, when you talk about Stephanie White is

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Speaker 1: our guest. She is the head coach of the Indiana Fever.

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Speaker 1: Fever in Action tonight seven thirty pre game. You can

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Speaker 1: start this to it seven fifteen on this radio station.

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Speaker 1: When you talk about seeing narratives that are inaccurate about

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Speaker 1: your team, give me an example.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I know, I don't. I'm not on social media,

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Speaker 5: so I don't really, but you know, just hearing conversations,

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Speaker 5: you know, I have to tell even my family sometimes

606
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Speaker 5: like I don't want to know everything that's out there. Hey,

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Speaker 5: is this true? Is that true? Is that whatever? So

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Speaker 5: I think that there are often, you know, narratives about

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Speaker 5: whether it's players not getting along or whether it's you know,

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Speaker 5: I who who knows what else? I don't know, but

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Speaker 5: it's just it's just there are I think it's a

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Speaker 5: a my product of just our culture right now in

613
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Speaker 5: trying to create oftentimes create division where there's not division

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Speaker 5: and utilizing social media to do that. And whether it's

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Speaker 5: the reality of its fans, if it's bots, if it's whatever,

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Speaker 5: it's not exactly sure. But you know, for us, I

617
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Speaker 5: think making sure that our players understand how to create boundaries,

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Speaker 5: you know, how to create separation. The young people don't

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Speaker 5: get off of social media, right, I mean their brands

620
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Speaker 5: are associated with social media. Sould people can do that,

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Speaker 5: but to be able to keep the focus and keep

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Speaker 5: the main thing the main thing, and the focus is

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Speaker 5: on our group, how we come together, how we continue

624
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Speaker 5: to to build our culture that is going to set

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Speaker 5: us up for championship type of culture year after year.

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Speaker 1: I do know this. I'm fairly certain of this coach

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Speaker 1: on my social media, anybody that reacts to anything I

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Speaker 1: post definitely about I'm convinced of that. I'm like, wait

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Speaker 1: a minute, no person's actually responding to this. All right,

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Speaker 1: We're going to do a fun exercise here you ready,

631
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Speaker 1: h We thought of a question for you, and then

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Speaker 1: I thought, you know what, here's how I think you're

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Speaker 1: going to answer said question. So what we're going to

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Speaker 1: do is I'm going to ask you the question, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to allow you to answer it, and then I'm

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Speaker 1: going to play for you Eddie as the audio of

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Speaker 1: me predicting your answer, and then I want you to

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Speaker 1: grade my answer. Okay on coach speak. The question for

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Speaker 1: you is this, Stephanie White, and that is over the

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Speaker 1: course of the season, and in particular the second half

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Speaker 1: of the season. Clearly, a big talking point around the

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00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 1: Indiana Fever was the availability the health of Caitlin Clark.

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Speaker 1: Now that we have answer to that, even though I

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Speaker 1: know that you would love to have her as a player,

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Speaker 1: are you somewhat relieved to have that answer so that

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Speaker 1: you don't have to continue to answer that question?

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Speaker 5: Uh? Yeah, I'm relieved to not have to answer that

648
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 5: question every day, to not have to keep repeating myself.

649
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 5: But you're absolutely right, like not relieve the fact that

650
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 5: Caitlin Clark isn't on the fourth for US.

651
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Speaker 1: Okay, now here's the answer in my coach speak that

652
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: I gave and that I want you to critique my answer.

653
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a little too involved. Here we go, Eddie, Well,

654
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: Caitlin's a great player, and you know, I think it

655
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: speaks to what a great player she is and it's

656
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: a testament to her contribution not only in the WNBA

657
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: but are placed in women's basketball and what she means

658
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: to this franchise that I'm asked that a lot, so

659
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: I understand the questions and to an extent, it's, you know,

660
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: part of the job, and it's an honor to be

661
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 1: able to oversee this franchise that has such a great

662
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: player on it. But at the same time, you know,

663
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: we still have games to win, and we still have

664
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Speaker 1: a great roster of women that are ready and prepared,

665
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: and we've had a lot of players that have stepped up,

666
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: and that's what we want to focus on. Okay, how

667
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: would you grade my answer?

668
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 5: I said that was pretty good.

669
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Speaker 1: It's just pretty good. That was that was? I mean,

670
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: can I coach? What do you think?

671
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 5: No? I don't know. There's a lot more that goes

672
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 5: into coaching than just answering questions.

673
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 1: You know what is the hardest part of coaching?

674
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 5: You know, it's it's the challenge of number one, how

675
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 5: you build consistency. I mean, you know it's we our

676
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 5: season isn't as long as the NBA season, but it's

677
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 5: still forty four games. And as a coach, want your

678
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 5: players to be at their best every game and putting

679
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 5: combinations of players together that can that can do that.

680
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 5: Not you can't just put the five best players always

681
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 5: just on the floor and expect them to have the

682
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 5: chemistry and the constabuity and the and uh the complementary

683
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 5: assets to be the best unit on the floor. I

684
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 5: think being able to try to stay ahead of the

685
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 5: curve and in in in game planning, execution offensively, defensively

686
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 5: the chess match that that entails that as well. And

687
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 5: and it's a lot about about player management and relationships

688
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 5: and you know, pouring into your players while holding them accountable,

689
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 5: understanding what it takes, you know, managing ego. There's there's

690
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:45,479
Speaker 5: all of those things, because every single person in any

691
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 5: profession has an ego, or you wouldn't be there, right,

692
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 5: And then how do you navigate managing the the individual

693
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 5: ego and appealing to that while also selectively uh the

694
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 5: team ego and and what is best for the team.

695
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 5: And so I think those are all challenging aspects of

696
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 5: putting teams together.

697
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you one other thing, Stephanie White,

698
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 1: our guest, I thought about this. I read an article,

699
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: Stephanie about Justin Fields, the quarterback for the New York

700
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: Jets that was you know, in Chicago before that, of course,

701
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: Ohio State quarterback. And I'm going to get into this

702
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: later in the show, but I read an article where

703
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: he just did an interview about the fact that he

704
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: had juvenile epilepsy and then he had to deal with

705
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: seizures when he was a kid, and it jumped out

706
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: to me because I myself had juvenile epilepsy and I

707
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: look back on the time when I was a kid

708
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 1: and just knowing that I was a little bit different

709
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: in that regard, and I've always kind of been proud

710
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 1: of it because it made me different and it was

711
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: just something, you know, that's part of my story, so

712
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: to speak. But I was happy that he was talking

713
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: about that because it will give young kids, you know,

714
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: that go through that somebody look up to and say, hey,

715
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: you know what, like I can achieve my goals and whatnot.

716
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: And so I wanted to ask you when you were

717
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: a younger player and a younger athlete, was there either

718
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: an athlete that you identified with that gave you, like

719
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: an aspiration or a hope or was there something that

720
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: you went through as a young person that you look

721
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: back on and you say, that was something that was

722
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: difficult in the time, but maybe somebody young can learn

723
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Speaker 1: from what Stephanie White went through.

724
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, there were there weren't a lot of

725
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 5: athletes that were visible to me as a young player

726
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 5: that I necessarily looked up to to emulate. Men in

727
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 5: terms of women's sports because women's sports weren't televised like

728
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 5: they are now when I was a kid, you know,

729
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 5: that was a lifetime ago. I mean certainly, you know,

730
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 5: I watched the NBA. I watched college basketball, mostly the men,

731
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 5: you know. But I think the thing that that always

732
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 5: motivated me when I was young. Remember one, I just

733
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 5: I always enjoyed playing sport. But number two, my parents

734
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 5: were barely eighteen when I was born, and you know,

735
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 5: we didn't have a lot growing up. In fact, i've

736
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 5: i've you know, often tell my kids this story about

737
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 5: and I know they rolled their eyes like most kids

738
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 5: do and their parents talk. But like most of the

739
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 5: time growing up, I had one pair of shoes that

740
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 5: I had that had to last meet the entire year. Like,

741
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 5: we just didn't have anything. And I knew that, you know,

742
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 5: for me, the opportunity to go to college was likely

743
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 5: going to come through other means, and I didn't know

744
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 5: that basketball was going to be it, you know. And

745
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 5: then I got into when I got into seventh grade,

746
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 5: I got my first recruiting letter, you know, for basketball,

747
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 5: and it was like, okay, well maybe this is my

748
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 5: way to to be able to go to college, to

749
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 5: be able to to to find my way into you know,

750
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 5: a university and get a free education, and it saved

751
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 5: my parents. My parents had to work incredibly hard. You know.

752
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 5: My mom went back to college when I was in

753
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 5: fifth grade and went on to become a teacher and

754
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 5: showed me a lot of life lessons about what that

755
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 5: meant for hard work and you know, handling things as

756
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 5: a calm, handling university and just didn't have a lot

757
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 5: growing up. And so basketball was always number one my

758
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 5: escape and number two the thing that I thought was

759
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 5: going to get me to college and get me an

760
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 5: education and get me a degree that was going to

761
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 5: hopefully propel me. So whatever was next, I had no

762
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 5: idea what that would be at the time, and little

763
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 5: did I know that it would take me around the

764
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 5: world and give me this profession and these relationships that

765
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 5: I've been able to build because of that. So, you know,

766
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 5: I am a quintessential quote unquote who's your story coming

767
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 5: from a small town, coming from nothing and being able

768
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Speaker 5: to fulfill my dreams.

769
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Speaker 1: And then, so, what school was it when you were

770
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: in seventh grade? Was it Perdue?

771
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 5: It was not. Purdue Louisiana Tech was my first college.

772
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 1: That's a big one. I mean that was a big program.

773
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 6: Yeah it was.

774
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Speaker 1: That's impressive. All right. Yeah, Well, obviously people are happy

775
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: that you stuck close to home and ended up at Purdue,

776
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: and we know the story from there. But tonight seven

777
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: thirty story continues against Minnesota. Coach will wish you the

778
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: best of luck and in the playoffs as well.

779
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 5: All right, I appreciate it, Thank you.

780
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: All right. Stephanie White joining us, the head coach of

781
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: the Indiana Fever. Right when we come back. I do

782
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: want to get into that story about Justin Fields, because

783
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting what I had read. And

784
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: Stephen Holder joins us thirteen minutes from now, latest on

785
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: the Colts upcoming. I watched the better part of and

786
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: I'm not sure why, but well I do know why

787
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: because I was on a plane and it was the

788
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 1: one game that was available because I think the satellite

789
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: was based out of was through New York television, So

790
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of the Jets Steelers game on Sunday.

791
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: And I'm not When I say I'm not a fan

792
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: of that doesn't mean I don't dislike him as a person.

793
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: I have never been somebody who was a fan of

794
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: the team's Justin Fields played on in his career. I mean,

795
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: obviously at Ohio State he was a I thought a

796
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: phenomenal talent, but he was a phenomenal talent that was playing,

797
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: you know, being a myself a Clemson fan, which is

798
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: irrelevant to people in this market, but Clemson and Ohio

799
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: State had some pretty matchups during Justin Field's time, so

800
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: I respected the heck out of his talent. And then

801
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: of course he goes to the Bears, and I know

802
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: that he was very up and down. But then again,

803
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: there are times where I'm fairly certain that if you

804
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: went into a Frankenstein lab with you know, Tom Brady,

805
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, Warren Moon, and Michael Vick, you would come

806
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,959
Speaker 1: out with a quarterback that had no timing and could

807
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: not run the ball. If you've in fact put him

808
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: on the Chicago Bears, Like it just seems like a

809
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 1: place where quarterbacks go to disintegrate. But when I watched

810
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: Justin Fields against the Jets, I thought their offense was

811
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: fast paced and exciting to watch, and I thought he

812
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: he looked very comfortable and it looked like maybe, in fact,

813
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: there was still some game there. But the article that

814
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: I saw was justin Fields talking about the fact that

815
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: he has or had juvenile epilepsy and suffered seizures as

816
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 1: a kid, and what a traumatic that was. And as

817
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: somebody myself who had a seizure when I was in

818
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: the sixth grade and was diagnosed with juvenile epilepsy and

819
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: was put on medication until the better part of my

820
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: formidable years, you know, in that moment you, as a

821
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: young person, basically have that is a serious diagnosis to

822
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: be given. And I'm saying this only in case someone

823
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: and I realize right now most young people are in school,

824
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: but if there are parents listening who just found out

825
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: their child is going through that journey. It It was

826
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: something that when I look back on, I realize I

827
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: utilized it to my advantage because it made me different,

828
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: and I knew it made me different, And I knew

829
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: that most people didn't know I had that difference, but

830
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: I knew I had it, and I used it kind

831
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 1: of to motivate me or to even though it was

832
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 1: not a huge barrier in my life, I wanted to

833
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: be able to think that it was so that I

834
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: had something to overcome. It gave me a hurdle by

835
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: which to clear. And you know, anybody right now, if

836
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: you are somebody whose child has been diagnosed with juvenile epilepsy,

837
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: justin Fields is the example of the fact that it

838
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: is a juvenile thing. You do outgrow that. Now that's

839
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: not to say that if you are epileptic that you know,

840
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: I mean, there are adults with epilepsy. I realize that,

841
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: But your body does overcome it. Neurologically speaking, you overcome it.

842
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: Medication has come a long way as well. But I

843
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: commended him for coming out and doing that article because

844
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: I appreciated and could respect the fact of that fear

845
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: that he had of knowing at a young age that

846
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: he had something about him as a label that made

847
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 1: him different than his peace, even if his peers didn't

848
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: know it. And you know, he obviously athletically went to

849
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: places that very very very few people ever do. And

850
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: so that is the example of the fact that you

851
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: are not defined by such a thing. And in today's day,

852
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: if you are a parent with that terrifying diagnosis, I'm

853
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: here to tell you that it does turn out just fine.

854
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: Now that's not to say there aren't cases that are

855
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: serious and whatever else, but you work your way through it.

856
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: And it's no different than being somebody who gets canker

857
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: sores or acne or whatever it might be. It's a

858
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 1: part of being a young person that you the worst

859
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 1: part is the first part, and then after that it

860
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: does get better. And I just thought it was an

861
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: I was when I saw that about Justin Fields. It

862
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 1: made me admire his ability that much more. Stephen Holder

863
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Speaker 1: covers the Colts ESPN dot Com joins us next. I'd

864
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Speaker 1: like to know between myself and Steven Holder, Eddie, which

865
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Speaker 1: one you actually think is the sharp dressed man. Caleb. Okay,

866
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Speaker 1: that's caleb 's iversouver. Who's hanging out with us in

867
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: here today. He's a coworker, I mean, but he's hanging

868
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Speaker 1: out and shadowing. Usually when people shadow it's because Eddie,

869
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: you spring on me at the last minute. You're going

870
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Speaker 1: on vacation. Are you going on vacation again somewhere next month?

871
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

872
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Speaker 1: Next month, next month? Yeah, Okay, that's when you're driving

873
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Speaker 1: to You can never have too many pictures in the bullpen, Jake.

874
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 1: It's like sunglasses and phone chargers. Look at you, Eddie

875
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: with the quarry analogies. I like it joining us now,

876
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: and I'm sure thrilled to be doing so on the

877
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Speaker 1: always busy and shockingly unsponsored guest line. Stephen Holder is

878
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Speaker 1: with ESPN dot com. Steve, and I'm going to begin

879
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Speaker 1: with this coming off of game number one for the Colts,

880
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: and we'll rehash that in a second, but from an

881
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: injury standpoint, you know, Shane Stike and oftentimes afterwards, we'll

882
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: just kind of go over what they found out over

883
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: the course of a game, between the game and then

884
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: yesterday as well. Where do we stand in terms of

885
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: players that may have been dinged up in game number one?

886
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 6: Well, I think the big one is Shavarius Ward Uh.

887
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 6: He is in the concussion protocol and that didn't really

888
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 6: present or the symptoms didn't present themselves until I think

889
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 6: Monday morning, so they have sidelined him until that gets resolved.

890
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,439
Speaker 6: H No, you know, no way to project whether that

891
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 6: lingers into this weekend yet or not, but certainly that's

892
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 6: going to be a big one to watch because they

893
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 6: also are dealing with h Jalen Jones with a hamstring injury.

894
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 1: You know, he would be.

895
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 6: The next corner off the bench, and you know behind

896
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 6: you know, the top three, which would be Ward n

897
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Speaker 6: Kenny Moore and I guess Xavier excuse me, Xavian Howard,

898
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Speaker 6: And so that injury is problematic too, just to pounds

899
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 6: the Ward situation. So corner was was an injury or wasn't?

900
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 6: Was an area of a lot of injuries in the preseason,

901
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 6: and we at least for right now, there's there's a

902
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 6: lot of problems there. Again, So those are the two

903
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 6: spots I think you got to watch for as the

904
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Speaker 6: week goes on.

905
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: Okay, here's a wild one and I have this is

906
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: literally I just have this weird feeling. There's nothing to

907
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: base this on other than he like took a weird

908
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: hit and then didn't return to the game, but he

909
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: didn't need to. And that is is there any chance

910
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: We're going to find out that Jonathan Taylor's not one

911
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: hundred percent?

912
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Speaker 6: Okay, So that was asked, and uh, I did not

913
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Speaker 6: get the sense that there's anything going on there since

914
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 6: Dykin said he was fine. He said that they pulled

915
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 6: them because the score was kind of offsided and maybe

916
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Speaker 6: he was a little dinged up. Not there's a difference

917
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Speaker 6: between being dinged up and being, you know, actually hurt.

918
00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 6: I suppose in the minds of NFL people, but I

919
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 6: don't think there's any official injury diagnosis at this moment,

920
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 6: so we'll see. Saw I'm in the locker room. Back

921
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Speaker 6: to the game. He certainly spent a lot of time

922
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Speaker 6: in the training room, but Taylor tends to do that anyway.

923
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Speaker 6: He's always one of the last guys out because he

924
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 6: does have a very intense sort of postgame routine. So

925
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Speaker 6: I think he's okay, unless and until you hear differently again.

926
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Speaker 1: Stephen Holder is our guest ESPN dot Com. All right, Steven,

927
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: let's get to the game itself. I'm going to ask

928
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Speaker 1: this one in elementary form. Did we learn more Sunday

929
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: about Indianapolis or Miami.

930
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 6: That's a great question, because I don't know. It's actually tough,

931
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 6: the tough question to answer. I would say this, the

932
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 6: Dolphins were infinitely worse than I anticipated, at least in

933
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 6: that game.

934
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Speaker 5: Right.

935
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Speaker 6: I don't know what they're going to be all season,

936
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Speaker 6: but in that game, they're infinitely worse than I could

937
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Speaker 6: have projected. I did think there was a scenario whether

938
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Speaker 6: the Colts could be very good, but they were. They

939
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 6: were far better than my wildest expectations. That is certainly true.

940
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Speaker 6: But I think we probably learned more about the Dolphins,

941
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Speaker 6: but I'm not. But I'm also not discounting what the

942
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 6: Colts did whatsoever, not at all, because I think there

943
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 6: are some things there that you can build on. That

944
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 6: defense is legit. I thought it might be, and I

945
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 6: think it is. I still think that. I think a

946
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 6: couple of things. Number One, Uh, they lou Enarmumo has

947
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 6: a great knack for timing blitzes, stunts and twists different coverages,

948
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 6: you know, like dropping Laatu Latu into a zone drop

949
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 6: at just the right time. I mean that that's just

950
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 6: a knack that a veteran coach, you know, you know,

951
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 6: not to call him old, but he's been around a

952
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 6: long time. You know, a guy like lou An Rumo

953
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 6: just has an axt for those things. So that's something

954
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 6: this defense can build on. And the pass rush was

955
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 6: very good too, So I think that's something that can

956
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 6: you can take with you throughout the season. The other

957
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 6: thing I would say is, I mean, Tyler Warren is

958
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 6: exactly who we thought he was. I mean, I had

959
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 6: no doubts, but it was certainly confirmation. And the other

960
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 6: thing I'd say is, you know, look when Shane Steichen

961
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Speaker 6: has a quarterback who he can speak the same language with,

962
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 6: he can get a lot out of him. And I

963
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 6: think we saw that with Gardner Minshew a couple of

964
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Speaker 6: years ago, and I wondered if this could be a

965
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Speaker 6: better version of that, And it looks like it's possible.

966
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 6: But we'll see this week.

967
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,720
Speaker 1: One, Steven, when you look at let's go to Tyler Warren.

968
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,919
Speaker 1: It is my belief. And I want you to tell

969
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: me if this if you think that I'm game one

970
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 1: overreaction type stuff. But I think Tyler Warren is going

971
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: to be the key, like you know, little floating piece

972
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: in the cell here that everything feeds off of, and

973
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: they're going to try to establish him early in games

974
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: with a couple of looks in the first couple of drives,

975
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 1: because then defenses have to constantly keep an eye on

976
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: him more than any other player, and that frees up

977
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Speaker 1: everybody else more so than any other player that they

978
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: could do that with. Am I overreacting? Well?

979
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Speaker 6: I think there will be games where that's true. It'll

980
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 6: be it will vary from game to game, So I

981
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 6: think there will be games where that player is Jonathan Taylor.

982
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 6: Now that wasn't the case on Sunday because the Dolphins,

983
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 6: as you can see, they shut the run game down,

984
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 6: or at least they made it difficult to run. I mean,

985
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 6: Taylor was I think three point eight or nine yards

986
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,919
Speaker 6: per carry, which is not notable at all. I mean

987
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 6: he's he's certainly for his career well above four yards

988
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 6: per carry, maybe.

989
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: Close to five.

990
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 6: So I would say that wasn't one of those games

991
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 6: for Jonathan Taylor. But I think with Tyler Warren maybe

992
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 6: it was. And this was by design. The Colts came

993
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,919
Speaker 6: into that game thinking we have an opportunity to throw

994
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 6: the ball, and so who did they come out throwing

995
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 6: the ball too? Right out of the gate. It was

996
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 6: Tyler Warren. So I do think there was an effort

997
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 6: to do exactly what you just said in the first

998
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 6: certainly in the in the first half I guess of

999
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 6: that game, and then threw out as well. And he

1000
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 6: is tonesetter, though, and I think that's a good thing.

1001
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 6: I think it's good thinking he's a tone setter. When

1002
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 6: he catches the ball, there's more to come after he

1003
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 6: catches the ball because now you've got to tackle him.

1004
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 6: So he's a real tone setter and the kind of

1005
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 6: guy you want to include into your scripted early plays,

1006
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:52,919
Speaker 6: because that can get you going.

1007
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones looked I thought very good. And I said

1008
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 1: yesterday Steven that Daniel Jones showed why Shane Steichen's an

1009
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: NFL coach and I'm a radio host, And by that,

1010
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: I mean he sees all the inner workings and I

1011
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 1: think he knew with this offense that Jones is the

1012
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: guy that can hit the layups and that's what they

1013
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: need to use Chris Ballard's term. So you got that

1014
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: like check good quarterback, play good, tight end play good.

1015
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: You know we know what Johnthan Taylor is. Michael Pittman,

1016
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: you know, we know who he is. With all of

1017
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: the positives that came that we talked about, who is

1018
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: somebody or an area or aspect on Sunday that you

1019
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: thought was very positive for Indianapolis that got overshadowed by

1020
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: those other storylines.

1021
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 6: The offensive line, I really thought they did a good job.

1022
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 6: Daniel Jones part of the reason he was so successful.

1023
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 6: And I'm not saying that he doesn't deserve credit. He

1024
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 6: deserves a lot of credit. That was a great performance.

1025
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 6: But let's let's give let's give everybody credit. That offensive

1026
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 6: line did a fantastic job. I talked to Shaan Stichen

1027
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 6: last week and one of the things he told me

1028
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 6: was he said, this entire game boils down to whether

1029
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 6: we can block those guys up front. He was very

1030
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 6: worried about it. Worried might not be the right word,

1031
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 6: but he was definitely concerned and wanted to see if

1032
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 6: they could hold up. He wasn't entirely sure they did.

1033
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,879
Speaker 6: They felt they held up beautifully, and I think when

1034
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 6: you look at the two new starters on that unit,

1035
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 6: there were questions there, and I don't have a lot

1036
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 6: of questions today because that was a tough opening matchup

1037
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 6: for whatever people might think about the Dolphins today, which.

1038
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:41,240
Speaker 1: Is not much.

1039
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 6: I get that that defensive front, the personnel they have upfront,

1040
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 6: You look at the names there, those are legit guys,

1041
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,720
Speaker 6: and they did not really have much of an effect

1042
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 6: on Daniel Jones whatsoever. So the other thing that was

1043
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 6: interesting is, I don't know, this might be more of

1044
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 6: a Shane stikeing thing, or maybe it's a reflection of

1045
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 6: the Dolphins. I don't know, but I don't know that

1046
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 6: I've ever seen that many wide open guys. So whatever

1047
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 6: he was doing to scheme those guys wide open, or

1048
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 6: maybe the Dolphins are just a complete travesty and can't

1049
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 6: cover anybody, but for whatever reason, they schemed a lot

1050
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 6: of guys wide open. That was a fantastic job by

1051
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 6: Shane sykeing. I got to get him some credit there too,

1052
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 6: so offensive line and then Shane's play calling chef's kiss.

1053
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: Do you, by the way, I noticed you used travesty there?

1054
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: Do you more often than not find yourself using travesty?

1055
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: I mean, is that maybe your safety one? Train wreck

1056
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: or dumpster fire? Which one do you most prefer when

1057
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: describing a team? I think it's hard to Stephen as

1058
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: the Colts beat writer for the last decade or so,

1059
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: you've had plenty of opportunity for all three.

1060
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I'm partial to train wreck. Yeah, I

1061
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,720
Speaker 6: think I am, and I've had a lot of practice.

1062
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 6: As you said, I don't find myself being dumpster fire

1063
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 6: quite as much.

1064
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: Dumpster Fire I think is safer because here's the thing.

1065
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: Dumpster Fire I think is safer because we've never actually

1066
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 1: had like human loss due to dumpster fire anywhere. Right, No, right,

1067
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: No one dies, right right?

1068
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 6: No one? No one dies in a dumpster fire? Right,

1069
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 6: train wrecks they can, So that's it's definitely very insensitive

1070
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 6: of me to describe the Colt as a train wreck.

1071
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 6: There you go, because no one dies when they lose.

1072
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 6: You just feel like you want to die sometimes, right

1073
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 6: with the way they've played over the last you know,

1074
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 6: ten years.

1075
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Speaker 1: Or so, based on one game, was there something? And

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00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,919
Speaker 1: it's it's been a long time since we've been able

1077
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: to say this. And that is if you were somebody

1078
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: who was a professional dumpstered fire seeker and you were

1079
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: looking at the Indianapolis Colts and you're like, Okay, I

1080
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: need to find an area to nitpick that was a

1081
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: negative in game one? Was there one? Was there an

1082
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: area that might have been forecasting that there could be

1083
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: a problem this year, but everything else else masked it.

1084
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 6: You know, I would say, I don't think it's going

1085
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 6: to be a problem, but you do want to be

1086
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 6: able to run the ball with a little bit of consistency.

1087
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 6: They got some better runs as the game went on.

1088
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 6: I'll give them that, but the dolfine did shut them down.

1089
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 6: At the same time, I think you're not surprised by

1090
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 6: that because that's the kind of personnel they have up front.

1091
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 6: So the question that there is one would be can

1092
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 6: this offensive line and the personnel they have and you know,

1093
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 6: this composition of the offensive line, can this line create

1094
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 6: the running lanes the way they have over the last

1095
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 6: few years? And I guess we'll have to wait till

1096
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 6: week two to see if that if that is true

1097
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 6: or not.

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00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: Somebody asked me this question, Steven, Steveholder, our guest, and

1099
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: it's a very good question that I wanted to pass

1100
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: along to you. So let's get background to this to begin.

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00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: The NFL Players Association, is it my understanding, I think

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00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: this is correct. Each team in the league has a

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00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: player that represents that franchise's players within the Players Association.

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00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 6: Correct, Yeah, there are player reps for every team, at

1105
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 6: least one.

1106
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: I think most teams even have two, okay.

1107
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 6: And then and then in in addition to that, there

1108
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 6: is an Executive Committee of the Union, which is I

1109
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 6: don't know, eight to ten guys something like that, and

1110
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 6: that is composed of players throughout the league as well.

1111
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: And Ryan Kelly was on that executive committee while a

1112
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: member of the Colts. He is obviously no longer a

1113
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 1: member of the Colts. Do we know who is the

1114
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: Colts representative on the NFLPA.

1115
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 6: Oh, that's a good question. It tends to change every year,

1116
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 6: or it can it. Zire Franklin comes to mind.

1117
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: But anymore, said did Eddie you believe it's Kenny Wore?

1118
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 2: I think Kenny Moore did an interview at training camp

1119
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 2: with The Morning Show and.

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00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 6: Mentioned of it. Okay, I honestly I haven't. I haven't

1121
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 6: followed up on it is this year. Sometimes it's more

1122
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 6: than one guy. I mean, I said Zaire because in

1123
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 6: the past he has kind of been at the forefront

1124
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 6: of some union related things. But it could well become

1125
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 6: any more. That makes sense. I honestly haven't followed up

1126
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 6: for this new season. They usually decided I think in

1127
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 6: training camp, so that's probably accurate.

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Speaker 1: Steven. I know that Chris Ballard, and I also know

1129
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: the broken record nature of what I'm about to ask,

1130
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 1: But I know that Chris Ballard has been very adamant

1131
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: about the fact that Anthony Richardson is not on the

1132
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: trade block. I understand that. But if Daniel Jones one

1133
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: game does not a season make. But if Daniel Jones

1134
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 1: is able to play at the efficiency game in and

1135
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: game out that we saw in Week one, does that

1136
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: change Chris Ballard's tune.

1137
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 6: Too early to say, however, I do. I would say this.

1138
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 6: When he came out and said he was not trading him,

1139
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 6: I thought I understood at that point at least you

1140
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 6: have to assume at that point that the uncertainty about

1141
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 6: Daniel Jones was at least a factor, if not the

1142
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 6: primary factor, it was at least some factor. The other

1143
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 6: factor was that Daniel Jones does have some injury history,

1144
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 6: which they acknowledge. So you know, there's a little, you know,

1145
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 6: a little uneasiness about that. But you have to think,

1146
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 6: watching that game, it's certainly more likely today than it

1147
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 6: was prior to that game. I mean, I'm not saying

1148
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 6: it's likely at all. I'm saying it's it's at least

1149
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 6: a little bit more likely today given what you just

1150
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 6: saw from Daniel Jones. Because a big part of any

1151
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 6: hesitation in trading Anthony Richardson was what do we have

1152
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 6: in Daniel Jones? Because what if you were wrong about him?

1153
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: Right?

1154
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 6: And look, we have we have sixteen games to go.

1155
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 6: We know nothing, Okay, we really know nothing yet. I

1156
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 6: warned fans. They come up to you, you know, at

1157
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 6: Starbucks or Costco, and they hey, we'll you know, what

1158
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 6: do you think about this? What do you think about that?

1159
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 6: And my advice is always like let's talk after week three,

1160
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 6: just because generally after like three or four weeks, you

1161
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 6: start to see the trends, You start to see some

1162
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 6: you know, you start to see the identity of players

1163
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 6: and teams and all that. So, you know, we know

1164
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 6: nothing after week one. However, that was it was such

1165
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 6: a good performance that you have to feel infinitely better

1166
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 6: today than you did what you know seventy two hours

1167
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 6: ago about Daniel Jones, and that includes the colts.

1168
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 1: What's the last thing that you impulse bought at Costco?

1169
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 1: Because you were there and you're like, oh my gosh,

1170
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 1: this is a deal I can't pass up. It happens

1171
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: like every third time you go in there, right.

1172
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I this is such a stupid thing.

1173
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 6: I went in there the other day. I buy these

1174
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 6: protein bars there because you know, that's what So I

1175
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 6: grab a protein bar in the morning and I go

1176
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 6: to the gym. That's what I That's like my old

1177
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 6: man routine. And so I'm a creature of habit. I'm

1178
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 6: at that age, right, and so I go in there,

1179
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 6: no shopping cart, no shopping cart because I'm just running in, right,

1180
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 6: I'm not buying anything. Let me get my protein bars,

1181
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 6: go through the self checkout, and I'm out of it.

1182
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 6: I'm out of there in five minutes, right. But as

1183
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 6: I walk in, they've got that shelf right in the front,

1184
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 6: across from the TVs, and it's got all this random stuff,

1185
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 6: and they had this like twelve pack of toothbrushes. And

1186
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 6: I was like, these are amazing toothbrushes. Oh my god.

1187
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 6: I mean because you know, people come over, you know,

1188
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 6: my daughter has a sleepover, or family comes visit or whatever,

1189
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 6: and everybody inevitably needs a toothbrush, right, and you know,

1190
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 6: and I'm.

1191
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 1: Like, are you treating your house like a holiday inn?

1192
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: Like if people kids come to spend the night, they

1193
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 1: get a free toothbrush out of the deal.

1194
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I guess she's got to pick better

1195
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 6: friends apparently, because she has friends that I just don't

1196
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 6: care about hygiene because they never seem to bring the toothbrush.

1197
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 6: All my extra toothbrushes they're gone. So I said, you

1198
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 6: know what, this will last us a long time. And

1199
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 6: I got to be honest, they're amazing toothbrushes. So that

1200
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 6: was an impulse buy a bargain like eighteen bucks. Man,

1201
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 6: I got like twenty of them.

1202
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 1: It was pretty good. By the way, do you know

1203
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: how you know that that device was invented in Kentucky?

1204
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 1: I do not, because anywhere else it would be known

1205
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 1: as a teeth brush. Thank you. I'm here all week.

1206
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 1: By the way, Tipsy, that's not bad, right, that's not bad?

1207
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 6: Did there?

1208
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 1: And actually here's the other thing, Steven, And I've noticed

1209
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 1: this from in you know, like, I don't want this

1210
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 1: to become awkward all of a sudden for listeners or

1211
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 1: for yourself, but I've noticed when you have gone to

1212
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 1: pacer games with me, you have very nice teeth. And

1213
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 1: I noticed that because primarily when people are in my

1214
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 1: company they smile often, and so you're smiling usually when

1215
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 1: you're around me. You have very nice teeth. So I

1216
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 1: would say the costco purchase is paying off, not just

1217
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 1: for your daughter's friends, but for yourself.

1218
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 6: Well, yes, my Dennis, doctor Foss. She hates me because

1219
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 6: I've done a much better job and I haven't had

1220
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 6: a cavity in a very long time.

1221
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: So well, there you go. It's off. You're very happy

1222
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: about this, Okay, it's paying off. I will tell you this,

1223
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 1: not make brush shopping around any money off of me.

1224
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 1: I've got like, way, way way too many of the

1225
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 1: like ankle high puma socks from Costco. Like every time

1226
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 1: I go in and that that thing is right there

1227
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh man, I need more of them.

1228
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 1: I've got a lot of times to apply that I

1229
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 1: need even more. You can never have too many socks,

1230
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 1: that's correct. That is not a thing that is correct,

1231
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: not a thing not unlike tooth brushes. All right, Steven,

1232
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 1: we will let you get those pearly whites grinning on

1233
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 1: ESPN and get back to the regular gig. But we

1234
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 1: appreciate the time as always. All Right, you got it,

1235
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 1: I'd Steven Oler joining us on ESPN dot com. Eddie yourself,

1236
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 1: the last time you went to a Costco, what was

1237
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 1: the thing that you impulse bought.

1238
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 2: And on shop at Costco.

1239
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to do this again, Eddie, just pretending

1240
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: for the sake of the radio theater of the mind.

1241
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 1: The last time that you were thinking about going to

1242
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 1: Costco or any sort of wholesale club, what is the

1243
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:58,919
Speaker 1: one thing that you would buy that you normally would

1244
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 1: not accept that it's in massive bulk and it's discount,

1245
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 1: and so therefore you feel like you need it.

1246
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 2: I don't shop at Costco, so I wouldn't know what

1247
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 2: to buy, Jake, I don't buy things in bulk, so

1248
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 2: I wouldn't know.

1249
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 1: Caleb, did you say you're filling in next week? I

1250
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 1: don't know when I'm filling in. Well, this has going great,

1251
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 1: ye do a class on improv playing along? Would you

1252
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: just brace yourself for it? Right? Eddie? By the way,

1253
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 1: you pointed out you got information on the NFLPA.

1254
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 2: Shout out to Caleb. He was the one who actually

1255
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 2: found it held now he just looked it up on

1256
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 2: the NFLPA website. The representative for the Cold Desire Franklin

1257
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 2: Cannymore co Alternate one, CO Alternate two Taekwan Lewis. And

1258
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 2: this one shocked me a little bit. CO Alternate three

1259
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 2: Alec Pearce. Now, how do you what does the one,

1260
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:44,919
Speaker 2: two and three mean?

1261
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. So one's in all so obviously primary alternate,

1262
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 1: secondary alternate and then third alternate Alec Pearce. Ryan Kelly,

1263
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 1: by the way, still vice president. I think you might

1264
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 1: have mentioned that.

1265
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 2: By the way, Ted Carriss, who will join us in

1266
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks. His son is as a vice

1267
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 2: president of the NFLPA with Ryan Kelly.

1268
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 1: He's joining us tomorrow, isn't he No? A couple of weeks? Okay, weeks.

1269
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 2: The only reason why I knew that, Jake is because

1270
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 2: he's joining on my birthday.

1271
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 1: Oh really, when's your birthday? September the twenty fourth, you're wondering,

1272
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 1: and that is birthday number one for you. Let's see,

1273
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 1: I was born in twenty seven. You had to think

1274
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 1: about that for a second. Yes, twenty seven a significant

1275
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 1: number in pop culture. You know why. No, it's not

1276
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 1: necessarily a positive thing. But I'll tell you next now, Eddie,

1277
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 1: I don't want you to be alarmed by this because

1278
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 1: you said you're going to be turning twenty seven. But

1279
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 1: the twenty seven Forever Club have you ever heard of that?

1280
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 1: I have not. I mean, it's a little macab I realized.

1281
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 1: But in pop culture it became kind of a quote

1282
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 1: unquote thing between nineteen sixty nine and nineteen seventy one,

1283
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 1: when Brian Wilson, Jimmy Hendrix, Janis Joplin. There's one that

1284
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 1: I'm missing here off the top of my head, Jim Morrison,

1285
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 1: did I say, Jim Morrison? They all passed away at

1286
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 1: the age of twenty seven, and then later Kurt Cobain

1287
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: dying at the age of twenty seven and Amy Winehouse

1288
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 1: at the age of twenty seven. So and then there's

1289
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 1: a number of like actors and you know, different people

1290
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 1: within politics or pop culture that have basically that have

1291
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 1: passed away at the age of twenty seven. And now

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01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 1: there's been studies that have done that have been done

1293
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 1: that have said, no, a young person passing away at

1294
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 1: the age of twenty seven is no more statistically an

1295
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 1: anomaly than any other age. It just so happens that

1296
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 1: you had a handful of them in unusual Obviously, anytime

1297
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 1: at twenty seven, it's unusual.

1298
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 2: Well, gee, thanks Jake, And now I feel great about

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01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 2: turning twenty seven.

1300
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 1: I'm just saying That's why I said, I don't want

1301
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 1: you to be alarmed by it, right.

1302
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 2: I'm just be looking forward to death now. But I'm

1303
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 2: going to go right up my will.

1304
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 1: You know, just so you know, one of the more

1305
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 1: surreal moments of my life, Eddie. Not to turn this

1306
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 1: totally drab. We'll get back into a positive news here

1307
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 1: in a second. But I've told the story before that

1308
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 1: when I had my heart attack and was waiting to go,

1309
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 1: you go into the cath lab, you know, they say like, hey,

1310
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to take you in for a do

1311
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 1: a Hart cath but everybody's on call and we've called

1312
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 1: them to get them all assembled. And I remember thinking like,

1313
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 1: well on call from where? Like where are they coming from?

1314
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 1: But so I was sitting there waiting. I'm just in

1315
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 1: the emergency room waiting to go into the cath lab,

1316
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 1: waiting for them to come get me, and a woman

1317
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 1: walked in who was an executive or not executive, but

1318
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 1: she was worked for the hospital and said, Hey, I'm

1319
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 1: here on behalf of the hospital and I need to

1320
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:51,640
Speaker 1: ask you a few questions. And I said okay, and

1321
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,679
Speaker 1: she said do you have a living will? And I said,

1322
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 1: you know, I don't. It's funny you mention that, because

1323
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 1: I've got one of my best friends from high school

1324
01:09:58,280 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: does that for a living as an attorney, and I

1325
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,560
Speaker 1: keep talking about getting together with them and I probably

1326
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 1: should do that, and she said you probably should have.

1327
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: And that's when I thought, oh, wow, this this seems

1328
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 1: pretty serious. And then needless to say, that was like

1329
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:15,680
Speaker 1: the first thing I did when I got out. But

1330
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:17,640
Speaker 1: you will be fine, Eddie. I promise you that you

1331
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 1: will see twenty eight. You'll be fine.

1332
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 2: Are you sure?

1333
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:19,639
Speaker 1: Yes?

1334
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 2: Geez, I don't know now.

1335
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 1: I think your lifestyle is slightly different than that of

1336
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 1: Jimmy Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Amy one House and to an

1337
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:27,560
Speaker 1: extent kurrent combainn.

1338
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 2: How would you know? Okay, there's a reason why I

1339
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 2: love going to seattles. Okay, well, okay, make me walk

1340
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 2: it back. U'm trying to make you feel better. Fever

1341
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 2: and Action tonight seven thirty pre game seven fifteen, it

1342
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 2: is Indiana and the Minnesota Lynx. Minnesota the best team

1343
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 2: in the league and a team that you know. We

1344
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,839
Speaker 2: talked about the fact that coming out of the break

1345
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 2: and their final twelve games, three would come against Minnesota.

1346
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 2: It is the final of those because it is the

1347
01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:58,679
Speaker 2: final regular season game.

1348
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 1: Tonight. Stephanie White joined us just about an hour ago

1349
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 1: on the program UH and talked about the fact that

1350
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 1: you know, here is this opportunity before them and Eddie,

1351
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 1: they are about as battle tested as a group can

1352
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 1: get because when you look at what the Fever have

1353
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 1: been able to do and the rosters that they've been

1354
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 1: able to put out there. You know, oftentimes you're going

1355
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 1: with different combinations because they have been so ravaged by injury,

1356
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 1: and you know, Caitlyn Clark being the key part of that,

1357
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 1: but Sophie Cunningham. You know, they've had a lot of

1358
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 1: players go down with injury. Could be a benefit, That's

1359
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 1: what I was just going to ask you. You do

1360
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:41,679
Speaker 1: the pre and post game for each and every game

1361
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 1: you see and or listen to all of them. Your

1362
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,919
Speaker 1: thoughts Could that be in any way a blessing in disguise?

1363
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 2: I think at some at some level, it can be.

1364
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 2: But I also think, you know, it could be a

1365
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 2: detriment just because you don't have a lot of time

1366
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 2: on the floor together, so you haven't been able to,

1367
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,600
Speaker 2: you know, kind of develop some sort of routine in

1368
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 2: terms of who's going in at what time. Like with

1369
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 2: the Pacers, you know, at that first media time out,

1370
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 2: all right, Pascal Siakam's gonna come out, Obie Toppin's gonna

1371
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 2: come in, Benedict Matherin's going to go in, somebody will

1372
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 2: go out. Like That's just how it is, at least

1373
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 2: with the Pacers, because there's familiarity because there was there

1374
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 2: was good health, so players were available. That's not the

1375
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 2: case with the fever, where from a night to night basis,

1376
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 2: you don't know first and foremost what it's going to

1377
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 2: be like in terms of what is the physicality that's

1378
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 2: going to be allowed, So you don't know what the

1379
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 2: foul situation is going to look like from a night

1380
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 2: to night basis. Does Eliah Boston have availability in the

1381
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 2: first quarter because they're not calling ticky tack fouls on her?

1382
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 2: Or is she unavailable because she's being called for tiki

1383
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 2: tak foles? Like, There's just so many different things that

1384
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 2: go into it, and I think it's about halfway in

1385
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 2: the middle of where I'm at to answer that question,

1386
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 2: because if you're you know, Atlanta, or if you are

1387
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 2: Las Vegas, you don't really know what you're going to

1388
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 2: be planning for from a game to game basis, you

1389
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 2: have an idea of what you want to execute, but

1390
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 2: you don't know what Indiana is going to do in.

1391
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 1: Terms of the fever tonight with the game and its

1392
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 1: implications on or its implication on the playoffs. The easiest

1393
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 1: way to think of this, Okay, the fever do not

1394
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:14,719
Speaker 1: control their own destiny when it comes to their seeding tonight,

1395
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 1: because they do need some help. If they lose and

1396
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 1: Golden State were to win, then the Fever are the

1397
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: seventh seed. If they lose and Golden State is to lose,

1398
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 1: Indiana is the sixth seed.

1399
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,719
Speaker 2: Indiana would have to win. If Indiana loses at all,

1400
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 2: then they are the seventh seed. Indian has to win tonight,

1401
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 2: Golden State would have to lose.

1402
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 1: Theirs says here. If the Fever lose and Golden State loses,

1403
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 1: Indiana is the sixth seed. That is, if I typed

1404
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 1: that I mistyped, do me a favor. Extend please your

1405
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 1: left hand, left hand. Huh, hold up for the camera. Here,

1406
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 1: extend your left hand, please hold it out. Okay, take

1407
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 1: your right hand. Slap it. Okay, there you go. Slap

1408
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 1: yourself on the risk because that's what you wrote. I

1409
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 1: know I just corrected. Yeah, sorry, okay.

1410
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,640
Speaker 2: Over winning, the Valkyrie lose their next two games and

1411
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 2: the Fever are the six seed.

1412
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 1: But a so a Golden State Valkyrie win in Indiana

1413
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 1: becomes the seven.

1414
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 2: Correct They face Seattle tonight, who is still fighting for

1415
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 2: playoff positioning. Los Angeles is still in the mix for

1416
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 2: that eight seed. If Seattle wins tonight, they are the

1417
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 2: eighth seed. If Los Angeles loses tonight, Seattle is the

1418
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 2: eight seed. But it would come down to their games

1419
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 2: on Thursday determined who would be in for that final spot.

1420
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 2: If Seattle loses to Golden State tonight and if Los

1421
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 2: Angeles wins, the very high likelihood is that the Indiana

1422
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 2: Fever will open the postseason against the Atlanta Dream Correct. Yeah,

1423
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 2: because Atlanta lost all three games to Las Vegas during

1424
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 2: the regular season series, and the remaining schedule for Vegas

1425
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 2: is like a kqwalk. They have Chicago, uh, and then

1426
01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:00,080
Speaker 2: I think they've got They may actually have Chicago twice.

1427
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 1: Now, the Atlanta Indiana series and the regular season they

1428
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:09,680
Speaker 1: were two and two, right, they split.

1429
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 2: Vegas face to Chicago in Los Angeles against against two.

1430
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 2: I'm sorry Atlanta. Yes, Indiana was two and two against

1431
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 2: Atlanta this year, but they.

1432
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 1: Haven't played each other in quite some time.

1433
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 2: No, July eleventh, when's the last time you.

1434
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 1: Went to Vegas? By the way, you mentioned Vegas and

1435
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 1: you enjoyed Vegas, right, I do enjoy Vegas. Yeah, have

1436
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 1: you seen like three weeks ago. Everywhere I turned around

1437
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 1: there was a different article saying, but nobody's going to

1438
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 1: Vegas anymore? Is that true? I'm not sure.

1439
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 2: It become like some weird talking point. There weren't a

1440
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:41,640
Speaker 2: ton of people when we went there. But also it

1441
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 2: was April, right after before March. Well yeah, right after

1442
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 2: the tournament, so we're in the whole lot to do.

1443
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 1: Anyway, I just when I saw this, this article, I

1444
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 1: mean like it became this trend. Everywhere I turned around

1445
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 1: there was so many different like man, Vegas is just

1446
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 1: dying on a vine, and I'm like, really, I don't know,

1447
01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 1: Like it always seems like Vegas is packed, but it

1448
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 1: is expensive, So I mean maybe people just figured out,

1449
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 1: you know what, it's get a head of the riverboats

1450
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 1: or Anderson for that matter. Right, we come back. Last night,

1451
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 1: something happened that I thought to myself, does this tell

1452
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 1: us something about the Colts? And they didn't even play.

1453
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 1: I'll let you know what I'm talking about, and something

1454
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 1: that happened last night in the NFL. We'll do it next.

1455
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 1: You know. The funny thing about this intro, because this

1456
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 1: is a great song from Tribe called Quest and yes

1457
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 1: you can kick it and We're glad that you're kicking

1458
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 1: it with us. But the lou Reid cover, I mean,

1459
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 1: there are so many songs that that could become when that.

1460
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 1: As soon as that starts, you're like, okay, is this

1461
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 1: lou Reed? Is it? Marquis Mark is a tribe called Quest.

1462
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 1: I mean, there are a lot of different That has

1463
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 1: to be one of the most sampled songs ever. But

1464
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 1: it is a great song from a tribe called Quest,

1465
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 1: and can I kick it? Two through nine ten seventy

1466
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 1: is the telephone number for the program is also, by

1467
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 1: the way, the text line and I appreciate every texting,

1468
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 1: even if it says this, even when it says the following. Okay.

1469
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:19,799
Speaker 1: When Jake interviews the Fever coach, I immediately changed the channel.

1470
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 1: By the way, it's a station, not a channel's television

1471
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:28,720
Speaker 1: radio station. The questions are lame. It's super annoying. I

1472
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 1: would rather stick my head into beehive read this on

1473
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 1: the air, because I know I'm not the only one

1474
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 1: that thinks this. Here's the thing. If I read it

1475
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 1: on the air, though, if you've already changed the channel station,

1476
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 1: then how would you know that I'm reading it on

1477
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 1: the air for you? But I thought personally that Stephanie

1478
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 1: White's answer of speaking about her upbringing and the opportunities

1479
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 1: that basketball presented for her and the opportunities that it

1480
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 1: presents for her now was outstanding. So my and I

1481
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 1: get it. You know, Here's that's the thing about doing

1482
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 1: sports talk radio. That is a reality. I've said it before,

1483
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 1: I'll say it again. I do understand. I get it.

1484
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 1: In this town, you have the Colts, and I'm going

1485
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 1: to get back into that and what I saw last

1486
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 1: night that could relate to them. But you have the Colts,

1487
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 1: you have the Fever, you have the Indianapolis five hundred,

1488
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,640
Speaker 1: you have the Brickyard four hundred, you have the NHRA,

1489
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 1: you have Butler basketball, you have Purdue basketball, you have

1490
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:34,639
Speaker 1: Purdue football, you have Indiana basketball, you have Indiana football,

1491
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 1: you have high school basketball, high school football, you have

1492
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:42,719
Speaker 1: Notre Dame football and basketball, Indiana State for that matter,

1493
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 1: the Pacers. There are a lot of different things to

1494
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 1: talk about in sports talk in Indianapolis, Indiana. It's one

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Speaker 1: of the great matter of fact, when I worked at

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Speaker 1: Channel six and we were the because Channel six and

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01:18:55,280 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 1: ESPN were you know, connected fed back before the age

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01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 1: of the internet. And all that we were the ones

1499
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 1: that satellite fed anything that came through Indianapolis that ESPN needed,

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01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 1: Channel six is the one that supplied it. And I

1501
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 1: remember the assignment desk editor telling me one time that

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01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 1: Indianapolis was the city with the third highest number of

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01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:21,640
Speaker 1: storylines that Sports Center would utilize over the course of

1504
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 1: a year because of all the things that come through here.

1505
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 1: So it is true that, as I always say in

1506
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 1: one of my bad query analogies, okay, it is true

1507
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 1: that doing I'm sorry, bad analogy sounder. That's that fish.

1508
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 1: Those guys are geniuses. When you do sports talk radio,

1509
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 1: it's like running a delicatestsen and I totally understand and

1510
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 1: I totally respect that ninety five percent of the people

1511
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 1: that walk into the delicatests and want either or ham,

1512
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:08,440
Speaker 1: which would be the Colts and the Pacers. But occasionally

1513
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 1: somebody comes in and they want pastrami. Occasionally somebody comes

1514
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 1: in and they want baloney, and so therefore occasionally we

1515
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 1: serve both. And it is my hope that if you

1516
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 1: are somebody who is here strictly for a turkey or

1517
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 1: ham sandwich, that you simply wait while the person in

1518
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 1: front of you gets served PISTROMI I totally understand it,

1519
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 1: and I respect it, and I appreciate people that sit

1520
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 1: through if it's something that's not of their primary interest,

1521
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 1: in order to then hear or maybe learn about something

1522
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 1: that's not a primary interest, to get back before we

1523
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 1: get back to their primary interest. But I do understand it,

1524
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 1: and I don't think it's I'm not the guy that's

1525
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 1: going to sit here and say, fine, go listen somewhere else.

1526
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:58,919
Speaker 1: I don't care. That's not the case. I want everybody

1527
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 1: to enjoy the show, and so therefore we do a

1528
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 1: number of different topics, and I do personally think that

1529
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 1: the vast majority of people enjoy stuff aside from just

1530
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 1: the primary topic. And I think the conversations with Stephanie

1531
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 1: White each week, and I thank her for joining us

1532
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:21,639
Speaker 1: each week, are awesome. Last night, I was watching Monday

1533
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 1: Night Football, and as I'm watching Monday Night Football, I'm

1534
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 1: watching JJ McCarthy and I'm looking at the Bears, who

1535
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:33,639
Speaker 1: you know, have obviously a promising quarterback in Caleb Williams,

1536
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 1: a number one selection, and I'm sitting there saying to myself,

1537
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 1: are we seeing kind of two different variations of what

1538
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:45,479
Speaker 1: you get in the terms of the Colts because Caleb

1539
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 1: Williams is a big play guy. Caleb Williams is a

1540
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 1: guy that he absolutely can make plays, he can extend plays.

1541
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 1: He you know, he's a phenomenal athlete. He's a great passer.

1542
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:00,120
Speaker 1: You know, there are a lot of things about it

1543
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 1: that made him the number one player taken into the draft.

1544
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 1: When he was at USC, he was dynamic. I mean,

1545
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 1: his vision in particular was really good. And yet it's Chicago.

1546
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 1: I'm watching that game and it's like wading through the mud.

1547
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 1: And then I look at Minnesota and for the first

1548
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 1: half of that game, Minnesota was really kind of stuck

1549
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 1: in neutral themselves. But JJ McCarthy then throws a pick six,

1550
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 1: comes back and immediately responds and takes a huge step

1551
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:28,639
Speaker 1: and does so in his debut. I believe I saw

1552
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 1: something that he is like the first quarterback to have

1553
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 1: a ten plus yard rushing touchdown in a ten plus

1554
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 1: yard passing touchdown in the same quarter, in the fourth quarter,

1555
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 1: et cetera. And he did it in his debut in

1556
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 1: the NFL. And that is not to say, because I

1557
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 1: don't believe it to be the case necessarily that JJ

1558
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:53,839
Speaker 1: McCarthy automatically, that means that he is a better quarterback

1559
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:56,759
Speaker 1: with a better future or more promise than Caleb Williams.

1560
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 1: I think what you see is that Minnesota has a

1561
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 1: better supporting cast around and is a more conducive situation

1562
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 1: for a young quarterback right now for JJ McCarthy than

1563
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 1: was the situation that was presented immediately for Caleb Williams.

1564
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 1: And yes, the roster that is in place right now

1565
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 1: for Daniel Jones is in fact a roster that is

1566
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 1: in place for Anthony Richardson because he's still on the team.

1567
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:37,800
Speaker 1: But it is a different, I think team than what

1568
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 1: Richardson had, certainly as a rookie. And I think when

1569
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 1: you add in Tyler Warren and you just look at

1570
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 1: the way that the Colts want to run their offense

1571
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 1: and what they anticipate for the way that they're going

1572
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 1: to look this year, it is one that is better suited.

1573
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 1: I do think that Daniel Jones is given the key

1574
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 1: because of Tyler Warren. That are a better situation than

1575
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 1: even Richardson had two years ago. And I think some

1576
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 1: of that is the reason why I don't think that

1577
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 1: they had an offense where they said let's get Tyler warrener,

1578
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 1: Let's get an offense and build it around what we

1579
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 1: think of Daniel Jones. You know, strong suits, But I

1580
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 1: think rather they looked at it and said, the strong

1581
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 1: suits of Daniel Jones maybe are better able to take

1582
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:32,640
Speaker 1: advantage of what we have around him. And that is

1583
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 1: as I keep saying, and you folks are gonna get

1584
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 1: tired of me saying it, but it has hit the layups.

1585
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:42,639
Speaker 1: They don't need this offense with the talent that it has,

1586
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 1: doesn't need to rely constantly on just big three point plays.

1587
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:51,719
Speaker 1: It can simply do the layups. And I think Jones

1588
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 1: does that better. But what we saw last night, I believe,

1589
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 1: was JJ McCarthy looking very very good and people automatically

1590
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 1: saying like, here we go. They made the right pick.

1591
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 1: Minnesota waited on him, and I know that he was

1592
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:05,680
Speaker 1: a rookie last year, but he sat out because of

1593
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 1: the injury. So what I'm getting at is it is

1594
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,759
Speaker 1: one game. And it was very easy after that game

1595
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 1: to make a determination on JJ McCarthy or against Caleb Williams.

1596
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 1: But we have two quarterbacks in Indianapolis that show you

1597
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 1: that it is more than just one game. And in

1598
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 1: the case of Daniel Jones, you've got to hope what

1599
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 1: we saw in game one carries over into week two,

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01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:32,439
Speaker 1: and you probably need to get into mid October before

1601
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 1: you see whether, in fact, this is a Sam Darnold

1602
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 1: rebirth or a flash in the pan. Scott Agnes, by

1603
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 1: the way, joins us, joins us next two o'clock hour

1604
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:46,559
Speaker 1: underway in Indianapolis, for that matter, of the two o'clock

1605
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 1: hours underway everywhere in the Eastern time zone. My name

1606
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 1: is Jake Querry. Eddie Garrison is the producer of this show.

1607
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 1: Most of the time. By that, I mean like the

1608
01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 1: seventy two percent of the time that he's not taking

1609
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:03,879
Speaker 1: off for his neighbor's birthday or uh, simply having Caleb

1610
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 1: fill in. Caleb is sitting in and that's Caleb z

1611
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 1: Iver Zuver correct.

1612
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 3: Z Iver's over, That's correct.

1613
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:10,760
Speaker 1: I noticed, Caleb, by the way that you you rock

1614
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 1: a lot of snoopy gear. Are you a big Peanuts guy?

1615
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 1: Is that it is that because you moved here from Minneapolis.

1616
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, Charles Schultz home up in Minneapolis. But no,

1617
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 3: my uncle was a big Peanuts guy, and I have

1618
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 3: a lot of hand me down gear from him, so.

1619
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:27,720
Speaker 1: Hand me down. Okay, fair enough. Do you have a

1620
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 1: favorite Peanuts character?

1621
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 6: Uh?

1622
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:33,440
Speaker 3: I like Linus because I used to have an attachment

1623
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:38,600
Speaker 3: to my blanket as well. So I that's what age.

1624
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 1: Were you when the attachment to the blanket went away?

1625
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 1: It hasn't okay, yeah, I will you know what, Caleb,

1626
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 1: I will confess this to you. I'm fifty three years old.

1627
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 1: I still have my blanket and cow, which was my

1628
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 1: stuffed animal when I was a kid. I still have

1629
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:54,639
Speaker 1: both of them.

1630
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm the same way.

1631
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:57,679
Speaker 1: Still. I don't like to struggle up with them per se,

1632
01:26:57,720 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 1: but I do. Still they are within my possession. They

1633
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 1: the cut of the great cut down, of the purge

1634
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 1: of my gear, the great purge. Yes, thank you, Eddie

1635
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:09,680
Speaker 1: joining us now, and I'm sure thrilled to be doing so.

1636
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:12,839
Speaker 1: Based on that segue from Fieldhouse Files, is Scott Agnes

1637
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:16,679
Speaker 1: fever in action tonight seven thirty against Minnesota and then

1638
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 1: into the playoffs, where they, by all account will take

1639
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 1: on Atlanta. There are a couple of factors that we

1640
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:25,639
Speaker 1: went over earlier that could affect their seating, but let's

1641
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 1: begin with Scott. This matchup tonight with Minnesota. The links

1642
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:32,759
Speaker 1: are also a team that has dealt with some injury

1643
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:34,720
Speaker 1: not I don't think anybody has to the level of

1644
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:37,720
Speaker 1: Indiana and what Stephanie White's group has contended with. But

1645
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:42,720
Speaker 1: the challenge, I guess we'll start with that about this

1646
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 1: particular team to close out the year would be what.

1647
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 7: The reality is, Jake, I'm it's unclear right now who

1648
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 7: I'm on Minnesota will play right Nafisa Collier? Why would

1649
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:56,240
Speaker 7: you play her? If you're the Links and the playoffs

1650
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 7: are starting this week and I have not seen an

1651
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:01,559
Speaker 7: injury report for them for tonight's game. They held shoot

1652
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 7: around but have not announced that. I would be surprised

1653
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 7: to see them. I would they have chosen to sit

1654
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 7: some players from time to time over the last couple

1655
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:12,599
Speaker 7: of weeks with a five game lead on the two seed.

1656
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 7: On the other side, You're exactly right, the Fever are

1657
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:18,800
Speaker 7: still playing for spot six and seven and so that

1658
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 7: they very much still have something to play for here tonight.

1659
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 1: Do you believe Scott that? And maybe I'm just saying

1660
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 1: this because it's locally and we cover the Fever. You know,

1661
01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 1: I paid more attention to the Fever than I do

1662
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 1: other teams within the WNBA. I think that Stephanie White

1663
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 1: should get a lot of praise for the coaching job

1664
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:44,640
Speaker 1: she did this year. And I know that people are

1665
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 1: going to look at it and say, yeah, but that's

1666
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 1: a team that you had Caitlin Clark and Leah Boston,

1667
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:52,639
Speaker 1: and you know they had higher expectation at the beginning

1668
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 1: of the year than they did to go stay twenty

1669
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:57,520
Speaker 1: three and twenty and eke their way into the playoffs.

1670
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:02,120
Speaker 1: But when you look at the attrition of roster, to me,

1671
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 1: she has done top level coaching this year. But am

1672
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:12,040
Speaker 1: I simply looking at it myopically? I would agree she's.

1673
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:15,160
Speaker 7: Much like Kelsey Mitchell for MVP that she should be

1674
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 7: in the conversation. But it's really hard to overlook with

1675
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:20,680
Speaker 7: the job they've done with the Golden State Valkyries, an

1676
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 7: expansion franchise, a team that selected players that most of

1677
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 7: us did not recognize, like why are you drafting them?

1678
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 7: They leaned in the expansion draft. To be clear, they

1679
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 7: did not make any big trades. They did they leaned

1680
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 7: on foreigners and are in the playoffs and are right

1681
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 7: now six there. But I think Stephanie White should be

1682
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:43,680
Speaker 7: probably third or fourth in coach of the year for

1683
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:45,800
Speaker 7: all the reasons you laid out just I think so

1684
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 7: many times, Jake, we overused, maybe within hyperbole, the unprecedented. No,

1685
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:54,840
Speaker 7: this fever season, in the variety of things that Steph

1686
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 7: and the entire team have dealt with are absolutely unprecedented,

1687
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:01,880
Speaker 7: and they've navigated these choppy waters to be in the

1688
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:02,759
Speaker 7: playoffs firmly.

1689
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:06,280
Speaker 1: How have they had to play differently? How in any

1690
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:12,719
Speaker 1: way has their approach offensively changed in terms of style,

1691
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:15,640
Speaker 1: if at all, over the course of the attrition and

1692
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:16,719
Speaker 1: the things that they've lost.

1693
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:20,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's absolutely required some adjustment and mostly dumbing it down,

1694
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:23,720
Speaker 7: simplifying because you're dealing with a lot of players that

1695
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 7: joined less than a month ago. It was just one

1696
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 7: month ago when you started to have your first of

1697
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 7: five players suffer season ending injuries, and so they've continued

1698
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 7: to have to adapt on the fly. I think defensively,

1699
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 7: some of their coverages, how they're trying to trap, They're

1700
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 7: still trying to get out in transition offensively and play

1701
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:45,559
Speaker 7: at that fast tempo that gives them their greatest advantage

1702
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 7: always has been. But I think some of the play calls,

1703
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:51,519
Speaker 7: you're seeing a lot less pick and roll action. I

1704
01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 7: think Leah Boston, you're not utilizing as much as you

1705
01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:58,720
Speaker 7: would be normally, and you're leaning a lot more on

1706
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:01,720
Speaker 7: your perimitive guards just to create something and try to

1707
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 7: make a quick action decision.

1708
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:09,120
Speaker 1: Scott, you have covered the WNBA, specifically the Indiana Fever

1709
01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:11,439
Speaker 1: for how many and I don't mean consecutively, but for

1710
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:12,719
Speaker 1: how many total seasons?

1711
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:17,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, I've covered it, not at this level daily all

1712
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:22,840
Speaker 7: the time, but certainly since twenty twelve, and before that.

1713
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 7: I was around the franchise since two thousand and three.

1714
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:27,639
Speaker 7: It's just the reality is, go back three to five

1715
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 7: years ago, there was very little interest. You would spend

1716
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:33,200
Speaker 7: two weeks on a feature for five hundred people to

1717
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:36,439
Speaker 7: read it. And obviously that dynamic has changed entirely in

1718
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:38,160
Speaker 7: the last two years because of Caitlin Clark.

1719
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 5: Well.

1720
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:39,800
Speaker 1: The thing I was going to ask you is just

1721
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:42,639
Speaker 1: how has the league itself changed? And I don't even

1722
01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 1: mean necessarily in the interest of it, but as the

1723
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:49,519
Speaker 1: interest of it has increased, you know, the overall I

1724
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 1: guess competitive nature of the league. I mean, in what

1725
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:56,160
Speaker 1: ways is the WNBA different today, or for that matter,

1726
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 1: are there any ways where it's the same today as

1727
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 1: it was then I would.

1728
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:04,639
Speaker 7: Say, no, it's drastically different. I think I would say

1729
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:08,639
Speaker 7: the biggest area is more parody. In the year's past,

1730
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:10,599
Speaker 7: I feel like it was always one or two teams

1731
01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:12,760
Speaker 7: kind of every year. Now that might change from time

1732
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:16,040
Speaker 7: to time, what two teams it was. I think you

1733
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:18,800
Speaker 7: just have more talent to go around. I think the

1734
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:21,799
Speaker 7: physicality that a lot of people have been talking about

1735
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 7: it has always been there. I don't think there will rivalries,

1736
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:28,560
Speaker 7: and I think that's more so a systemic thing in

1737
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:32,000
Speaker 7: all of sports now as more people root on individuals

1738
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:36,800
Speaker 7: and follow players much more than maybe teams perhaps, so

1739
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:39,880
Speaker 7: I think that is definitely a relation there. I don't

1740
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:44,120
Speaker 7: see any rivalries really within the league from team to team,

1741
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:46,680
Speaker 7: And then the other aspect in all this is just

1742
01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:48,960
Speaker 7: how much more it is consumed, how many more games

1743
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 7: you're playing it used And this is the big conversation, Jake,

1744
01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:54,320
Speaker 7: they've got to be having with the collective bargaining agreement,

1745
01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:58,240
Speaker 7: both in terms of how you schedule and breaks given,

1746
01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 7: but also how the players are obviously compensated for. Back

1747
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:05,240
Speaker 7: when Stephanie was playing and Tamika it was like thirty

1748
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 7: thirty two to thirty four games. Well, this year for

1749
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:10,840
Speaker 7: the first time, they're up to forty four and they're

1750
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:13,679
Speaker 7: going to add even more, presumably with two more teams

1751
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 7: joining the fold as expansion teams next year. So you know,

1752
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:21,320
Speaker 7: now about thirty seasons in, I think you can the

1753
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:25,400
Speaker 7: changes just continue on down the line and are inevitable

1754
01:33:25,720 --> 01:33:26,960
Speaker 7: with this growing product.

1755
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:30,479
Speaker 1: And this is a dumb question. I apologize for this

1756
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:32,880
Speaker 1: in terms of expansion of the league. I mean, I

1757
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:37,719
Speaker 1: think the league the WNBA, and we've seen this this year, Scott.

1758
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:40,120
Speaker 1: What I what to me is very intriguing about the

1759
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:45,960
Speaker 1: league is that because you don't have the high number

1760
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:48,519
Speaker 1: of teams that you see in other leagues. When a

1761
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 1: franchise like the Fever this year have to do mid

1762
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 1: season acquisition of free agents, there are good players out

1763
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 1: there that you know what I mean, it's not as

1764
01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:01,599
Speaker 1: watered down. Where do things Stan And I know that

1765
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:03,920
Speaker 1: we've seen we have two new teams coming in, but

1766
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:06,960
Speaker 1: are they looking to continue to expand or are we

1767
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:08,080
Speaker 1: kind of at a cap there?

1768
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:11,559
Speaker 7: Yeah, so next year they'll add two more that will

1769
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:14,599
Speaker 7: make it fifteen, and they've already promised three other spots.

1770
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:17,920
Speaker 7: Those are staggered out, one after one after one, and

1771
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:20,600
Speaker 7: so you'll have eighteen teams here by the end of

1772
01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:23,200
Speaker 7: this ten year period. I think it's by twenty thirty.

1773
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 7: I wouldn't be surprised for them to go to twenty,

1774
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 7: let's say. But right now you're set on eighteen. I

1775
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 7: just think you might want to get off that odd number,

1776
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:36,720
Speaker 7: having nine and nine or whatever. But eighteen's a nice

1777
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:40,280
Speaker 7: round number as well. I just wonder to your point earlier,

1778
01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:43,840
Speaker 7: you need to expand rosters. That's where the focus needs

1779
01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:47,160
Speaker 7: to be in my opinion, before you expand these teams,

1780
01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 7: because all the different players that have gone down from

1781
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:54,800
Speaker 7: that instance, a lot of teams have experienced that, just

1782
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 7: not at this level and for this duration. Certain teams

1783
01:34:58,120 --> 01:35:00,600
Speaker 7: of experience where they've had to use the emergency hardship

1784
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:03,000
Speaker 7: or go to a hardship once or twice a year.

1785
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 7: The Fever have signed too many players at this point

1786
01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 7: to that level, and that's why you need a development system.

1787
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:12,360
Speaker 7: I think as well, a player like Bree Hall, who

1788
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:15,160
Speaker 7: was drafted by them in the second round. Clearly there

1789
01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:17,200
Speaker 7: was no room for her on the twelve man roster,

1790
01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:19,280
Speaker 7: but think if she was here from the start of

1791
01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 7: training camp till today. Both contributing or around or in

1792
01:35:23,160 --> 01:35:26,120
Speaker 7: this environment where she could develop and maybe now at

1793
01:35:26,120 --> 01:35:29,000
Speaker 7: the end of the season, she'd be much more comfortable

1794
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:32,120
Speaker 7: and certainly confident in what her role is in this

1795
01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 7: Fever system and all that, whether she's used or not.

1796
01:35:35,320 --> 01:35:37,759
Speaker 7: I'd like to see the rosters expand at least fourteen,

1797
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:38,839
Speaker 7: maybe fifteen players.

1798
01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:41,679
Speaker 1: By the way, do we need to say twelve woman roster?

1799
01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:43,680
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1800
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:46,160
Speaker 7: I've always wondered about that, Like you talk about you

1801
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:47,439
Speaker 7: know what man are you guarding?

1802
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:48,799
Speaker 1: Or man to man defense?

1803
01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:52,479
Speaker 7: We all understand what it references, but I don't know

1804
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:53,320
Speaker 7: the right answer to that.

1805
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:56,120
Speaker 1: That's a good man to man. I never thought of that.

1806
01:35:56,200 --> 01:35:58,559
Speaker 1: I mean, it's got to be a woman to woman, right,

1807
01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:03,200
Speaker 1: I mean what it's worth I guess semantically right, I mean, yeah, okay,

1808
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 1: these are the kinds of things that keep me awake

1809
01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:07,640
Speaker 1: at night. Scott right, I've thought about it. I just

1810
01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:08,840
Speaker 1: don't know who you know.

1811
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:12,559
Speaker 7: I'm I geared towards more simplifying and keeping it easy

1812
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:13,960
Speaker 7: and less changes.

1813
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 1: Do you buy into the do you buy into the

1814
01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:24,960
Speaker 1: the soccer version of using team names like the plural,

1815
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:30,639
Speaker 1: like you know, Indiana have Indiana have won a playoff

1816
01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:33,519
Speaker 1: game as opposed to Indiana has won a playoff game,

1817
01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:34,439
Speaker 1: because it's to.

1818
01:36:34,479 --> 01:36:38,880
Speaker 7: Me, I've always struggled with fever. From that standpoint, I think.

1819
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:41,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, the fever has or the fever have right when

1820
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:45,600
Speaker 1: you get into that way, absolutely, these are again the

1821
01:36:45,640 --> 01:36:48,759
Speaker 1: things that keep me awake at night. Right for what it's.

1822
01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:51,000
Speaker 7: Worth, Miami Heat's the same way, going back to the

1823
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:54,040
Speaker 7: Pacers battles with them and the you know playoffs.

1824
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:57,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean won five in a row. Yeah, I

1825
01:36:57,439 --> 01:37:00,720
Speaker 1: mean absolutely when you look at at this to our

1826
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:03,840
Speaker 1: guest fieldhouse files where you can read his work, the

1827
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:07,240
Speaker 1: WNBA playoffs in general, I mean, obviously I know that

1828
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:12,240
Speaker 1: Minnesota has been the upper echelon team, but is this

1829
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:16,680
Speaker 1: a league that has to your point, the parody? Is

1830
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:20,080
Speaker 1: there the parody there? Or do we expect that the

1831
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:24,559
Speaker 1: Indiana and the Atlantas and those teams that the odds

1832
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:27,040
Speaker 1: are really really stacked against him, that they can make

1833
01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:27,800
Speaker 1: playoff noise.

1834
01:37:29,080 --> 01:37:32,040
Speaker 7: I think there's about I think Minnesota is a clear favorite.

1835
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:34,360
Speaker 7: Let's put him in tears. I think Minnesota number one easily.

1836
01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:37,080
Speaker 7: Then after that I would put your aces in liberties,

1837
01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:40,519
Speaker 7: your traditional powers, and then the only other team outside

1838
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 7: that I could see is sneaking up as Atlanta. So

1839
01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:46,040
Speaker 7: to me, it's really a three team playoff race as

1840
01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 7: I look at it. Phoenix doesn't seem threatening the Valkyries.

1841
01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:51,280
Speaker 7: We know what the Fever have been dealing with here.

1842
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:53,599
Speaker 7: Keep in mind that Vegas Aces.

1843
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:54,720
Speaker 1: They were really.

1844
01:37:54,439 --> 01:37:57,800
Speaker 7: Going through it last month like the Fever. If I

1845
01:37:57,840 --> 01:37:59,560
Speaker 7: remember right, they beat him by thirty. It might have

1846
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:02,519
Speaker 7: been the worst opponent I've ever seen played. Think about

1847
01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:05,360
Speaker 7: to the Miami Dolphins this past week. It was worse

1848
01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:08,040
Speaker 7: than that from the Asis. But guess what now since

1849
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:10,840
Speaker 7: that Jake, they've ripped off fourteen wins in a row,

1850
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:13,280
Speaker 7: and a team that had won back to back championships

1851
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:15,960
Speaker 7: a couple of years ago is the hottest team in

1852
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:18,240
Speaker 7: the league right now. They're in third in the standings

1853
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:19,960
Speaker 7: in New York. We know what they can do if

1854
01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 7: they are healthy. But to me, I'd be surprised given

1855
01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:28,360
Speaker 7: Nafisa Collier's health, should she stay healthy. It's Minnesota versus everybody.

1856
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:31,800
Speaker 1: Scott, do you, Scott Agnes our guest Fieldhouse files, have

1857
01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:33,760
Speaker 1: you had a chance to I don't know how much

1858
01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 1: we've talked about it, but I want to get back

1859
01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 1: into this on the men's side of things, talking about

1860
01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:41,800
Speaker 1: the Pacers, you know there has been a change at

1861
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:46,040
Speaker 1: the on the coaching staff for Rick Carlile, and I

1862
01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:48,160
Speaker 1: don't know that a lot of people. By all account,

1863
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:52,720
Speaker 1: it seemed to be a mutual parting of ways. Do

1864
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:56,360
Speaker 1: we know what has gone into the changes on the

1865
01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:57,880
Speaker 1: bench for Rick Carlile.

1866
01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:00,880
Speaker 7: No, not exactly unfortunately, which is a little bit odd

1867
01:39:00,920 --> 01:39:04,920
Speaker 7: because the timing of it wasn't ideal. Right, It was

1868
01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:09,360
Speaker 7: announced by the team basically a month before training camp,

1869
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:12,080
Speaker 7: after Mike Winer you're talking about, was with the team

1870
01:39:12,200 --> 01:39:15,320
Speaker 7: out in Las Vegas for Summer League, and usually any

1871
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:17,800
Speaker 7: coaching changes are made by July and then everybody goes

1872
01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:21,560
Speaker 7: on vacation there in August. Mike Winer was one of

1873
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:25,439
Speaker 7: his top assistants. He was Rick Carlisle's basically right hand

1874
01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:28,479
Speaker 7: man going back to two thousand and eight in Dallas.

1875
01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:31,840
Speaker 7: He ran the offense, He ran into game situations. He

1876
01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:34,800
Speaker 7: was the one that drew up that spread five foot

1877
01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:37,599
Speaker 7: or spread four football play that we all remember Halibert

1878
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:41,320
Speaker 7: knocking down the shot for the win over Milwaukee. And

1879
01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:44,240
Speaker 7: then you bring him in and you replace him with

1880
01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:47,280
Speaker 7: someone that doesn't have a ton of experience. He spent

1881
01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:50,479
Speaker 7: a summer with the Pacers, spent some time at the

1882
01:39:50,479 --> 01:39:54,800
Speaker 7: coaching level at UVA. If anything, my biggest takeaway from

1883
01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:57,839
Speaker 7: this is further belief in Jim Boylan, who was promoted

1884
01:39:57,840 --> 01:40:01,280
Speaker 7: to the front of the bench and what he is contributed. Obviously,

1885
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:03,880
Speaker 7: he has a great experience with the Pacers. He won

1886
01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:06,960
Speaker 7: a championship in San Antonio and was a head coach

1887
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:08,080
Speaker 7: with the Chicago Bulls.

1888
01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:12,519
Speaker 1: But other than natural cynicism, we have no reason to

1889
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:16,479
Speaker 1: believe that this was anything other than a mutual part correct.

1890
01:40:17,320 --> 01:40:20,799
Speaker 7: I would agree, yeah, absolutely, just given all the different

1891
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:24,839
Speaker 7: things here, But we have not been given any evidence

1892
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:27,760
Speaker 7: to the contrary, and nobody wants to talk about it,

1893
01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:29,160
Speaker 7: so that's a little bit odd as well.

1894
01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:32,120
Speaker 1: One of the things that I find interesting, Scott, is

1895
01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:35,880
Speaker 1: that the Pacers in the last couple of weeks, I

1896
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:38,680
Speaker 1: have seen several posts on social media and they do

1897
01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:40,920
Speaker 1: this with other players, you know what I mean, Like, hey,

1898
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:44,600
Speaker 1: it's a been mather an appreciation post or whatever, you know,

1899
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:47,240
Speaker 1: that kind of thing they seem to have sent. And

1900
01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:50,680
Speaker 1: maybe this is me overthinking it, but I've seen a

1901
01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:57,679
Speaker 1: fairly consistent narrative about their appreciation or kind of pumping

1902
01:40:57,800 --> 01:41:00,479
Speaker 1: up Andrew nimhard. Do you think the thin part of

1903
01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:02,840
Speaker 1: that is just because andre and Imhart, as good as

1904
01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:07,280
Speaker 1: he's been, his elevation, his role is going to elevate

1905
01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:09,679
Speaker 1: in terms of how much they have to lean on him,

1906
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 1: and so they're kind of prepping him, if you will,

1907
01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:16,479
Speaker 1: psychologically for that moment. Does that make sense at all?

1908
01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:17,120
Speaker 1: It does?

1909
01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:19,439
Speaker 7: I think the number one thing in all this, quite frankly,

1910
01:41:19,520 --> 01:41:22,200
Speaker 7: is the Pacers reached the NBA Finals, then it went

1911
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:24,559
Speaker 7: right to the draft like three days later, right to

1912
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:28,080
Speaker 7: free agency, right to summer league, and ordinarily the Pacers

1913
01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:29,800
Speaker 7: digital team has about a month and a half two

1914
01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:32,240
Speaker 7: months to roll out into season reviews for each player,

1915
01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:35,280
Speaker 7: and so they're pumping out one each day leading up

1916
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:37,479
Speaker 7: here to training camp, if that's what you're referencing with

1917
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Speaker 7: all that. But Withnmart in particular, I think number one,

1918
01:41:41,439 --> 01:41:44,040
Speaker 7: the franchise is leaning hard into it because they're going

1919
01:41:44,120 --> 01:41:46,880
Speaker 7: to need his contributions. And the other thing is I

1920
01:41:46,880 --> 01:41:49,640
Speaker 7: think everyone's very curious to see what it'll be like

1921
01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:52,400
Speaker 7: with him having a higher usage rate, with him coming

1922
01:41:52,439 --> 01:41:55,639
Speaker 7: in as a point guard being so good that they

1923
01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:58,040
Speaker 7: couldn't play him as backup point guard, but instead the

1924
01:41:58,040 --> 01:42:01,400
Speaker 7: off ball guard and the staring lineup. And now he

1925
01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:04,160
Speaker 7: has much greater responsibilities and this team's going to go

1926
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:07,520
Speaker 7: as far as he and maybe Pascal can lead them.

1927
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Speaker 1: Scott Agnes, our guest from Fieldhouse Files. All right, Scott,

1928
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Speaker 1: I assume you've got plenty of coverage coming up regarding

1929
01:42:13,560 --> 01:42:15,680
Speaker 1: the Fever to end their regular season. Right.

1930
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:20,280
Speaker 7: Absolutely, we got the final game tonight fan appreciation Night,

1931
01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:22,719
Speaker 7: and then we should find out in the next twenty

1932
01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:25,560
Speaker 7: four to forty eight hours whether it'll be Atlanta or

1933
01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:28,840
Speaker 7: Las Vegas. Seemingly, and flight prices aren't cheap either way.

1934
01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:31,559
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, here's the well you can drive to Atlanta right

1935
01:42:31,880 --> 01:42:36,439
Speaker 1: at the very least. The thing I was going to

1936
01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:39,080
Speaker 1: ask Atlanta, I know Indiana two and two in the

1937
01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:41,080
Speaker 1: regular season, if you were to look at it just

1938
01:42:41,120 --> 01:42:43,400
Speaker 1: in terms of matchups of and that was a different

1939
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:46,120
Speaker 1: group for a large part of it, because it's been

1940
01:42:46,439 --> 01:42:48,760
Speaker 1: well over a month since they've played Atlanta. But if

1941
01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:50,800
Speaker 1: you were to look at Atlanta and Las Vegas, is

1942
01:42:50,840 --> 01:42:53,400
Speaker 1: there a preference you think for the Fever on in

1943
01:42:53,479 --> 01:42:55,000
Speaker 1: terms of which one is a better matchup?

1944
01:42:55,439 --> 01:42:59,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, all along, excluding leaving Vegas out of this conversation,

1945
01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:02,040
Speaker 7: I've said Atlanta is one of their most difficult matchups

1946
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:05,320
Speaker 7: just given the physicality and the toughness in the style

1947
01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:09,760
Speaker 7: of play for the Atlanta Dream. But it's hard, Jake,

1948
01:43:09,800 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 7: for me to go over go past and look over

1949
01:43:12,760 --> 01:43:15,800
Speaker 7: the big game experience, the coaching with Becky Hammond on

1950
01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:18,479
Speaker 7: the other side, it's a rookie head coach, and the

1951
01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:20,360
Speaker 7: fact that they are the hottest team over the last

1952
01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:22,519
Speaker 7: month and a half. Right now, I would say I'd

1953
01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:25,400
Speaker 7: prefer the Dream over the Aces given those factors.

1954
01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:27,200
Speaker 1: All right, we will keep an eye on it in

1955
01:43:27,240 --> 01:43:29,240
Speaker 1: the way that it all pans out. Fever and Action.

1956
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:33,439
Speaker 1: Tonight seven thirty seven fifteen is the pregame show with

1957
01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:36,479
Speaker 1: Eddie right here on this radio station. Appreciate it as always, Scott,

1958
01:43:36,880 --> 01:43:40,799
Speaker 1: you bet, Thanks, Jake, Scott Agnes joining us field House Files.

1959
01:43:41,200 --> 01:43:43,080
Speaker 1: Somebody else had pointed out to me on the morning

1960
01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:44,720
Speaker 1: show that Rick Carlile may have said that it was

1961
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:48,640
Speaker 1: a personal matter with Mike and that's why he moved on.

1962
01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:51,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the case or not, but

1963
01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:53,320
Speaker 1: either way, it did not look like it was some

1964
01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:57,120
Speaker 1: sort of you know, a negative or an ugly situation

1965
01:43:57,200 --> 01:44:02,840
Speaker 1: between the Pacers and that change that took place. Talked

1966
01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:08,799
Speaker 1: earlier about the Colts and Shane Steichen and Daniel Jones

1967
01:44:08,840 --> 01:44:13,240
Speaker 1: in his decision, and you know, I made a lot

1968
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:18,200
Speaker 1: of this yesterday. I realize, but I keep going back

1969
01:44:18,240 --> 01:44:23,800
Speaker 1: to it. I think it's entirely possible. And several people

1970
01:44:23,880 --> 01:44:27,880
Speaker 1: have pointed this out to me that we are going

1971
01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:31,760
Speaker 1: to in a month or two look back on week

1972
01:44:31,800 --> 01:44:35,439
Speaker 1: one and realize, gosh, that was a really big win

1973
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:37,559
Speaker 1: for the Colts because they got out to the right

1974
01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:41,240
Speaker 1: start in terms of the season. But we were really

1975
01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:44,320
Speaker 1: naive at that time. It's just how bad Miami is

1976
01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:46,759
Speaker 1: and Miami looks Eddie and I talked about it yesterday.

1977
01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:51,639
Speaker 1: Miami looks like they are in complete disarray, and now

1978
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:54,479
Speaker 1: you have you know, Tyreek Hill is back in the

1979
01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:57,439
Speaker 1: news for the wrong reasons in terms of allegations of

1980
01:44:57,439 --> 01:45:03,000
Speaker 1: off field stuff. They're the coaching staff looked completely like

1981
01:45:04,040 --> 01:45:06,439
Speaker 1: Dick Vitalius to say, the all airport team, guys that

1982
01:45:06,479 --> 01:45:08,360
Speaker 1: look good at the airport and then just don't even

1983
01:45:08,479 --> 01:45:10,000
Speaker 1: get it done on the field. I mean, they don't

1984
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:12,600
Speaker 1: even Mike Bananuel doesn't even look like he's part of

1985
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:16,160
Speaker 1: an all airport team. I mean, like, what are you

1986
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:18,479
Speaker 1: doing here? He's wearing the sunglasses and just the whole

1987
01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:24,840
Speaker 1: deal and sprinting. Oddities become eccentricities and then become negatives

1988
01:45:25,240 --> 01:45:28,240
Speaker 1: very quickly when you don't get results. And maybe that's

1989
01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 1: what we're witnessing with Miami, and maybe we will look

1990
01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:35,439
Speaker 1: back and say to ourselves, yeah, that seemed great in

1991
01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:38,760
Speaker 1: the moment, but it is not aged well. But a

1992
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:41,160
Speaker 1: win is a win. And they are one to oher

1993
01:45:41,200 --> 01:45:44,320
Speaker 1: in the division. Well, I mean not in the division

1994
01:45:44,320 --> 01:45:46,200
Speaker 1: but within the conference. But they're one and oh one

1995
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:48,800
Speaker 1: of two teams in the division to jump out to that,

1996
01:45:49,040 --> 01:45:52,240
Speaker 1: and it's entirely possible the AFC South is not going

1997
01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:55,000
Speaker 1: to have like a year ago, Houston got out to

1998
01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:57,519
Speaker 1: that big lead in the division and they were able

1999
01:45:57,560 --> 01:46:00,200
Speaker 1: to just hold on. And I don't know that that

2000
01:46:00,439 --> 01:46:03,360
Speaker 1: this year. Necessarily there's going to be any of those

2001
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:06,439
Speaker 1: four teams that just separates totally. So you want to

2002
01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:10,080
Speaker 1: each and every week get any advantage you can against

2003
01:46:10,120 --> 01:46:13,599
Speaker 1: the rest of the division itself, and certainly for the Colts,

2004
01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:16,240
Speaker 1: it gets big with Denver because Denver coming in I

2005
01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:20,439
Speaker 1: think we expect that Denver is a better team and

2006
01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:24,200
Speaker 1: is going to be a bigger test than what Miami presented.

2007
01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:26,280
Speaker 1: But then again, they've got a young quarterback as well

2008
01:46:26,320 --> 01:46:28,719
Speaker 1: that maybe you can disrupt with that Loui Anarrumo defense

2009
01:46:28,760 --> 01:46:31,400
Speaker 1: and give different looks and keep them guessing and keep

2010
01:46:31,439 --> 01:46:34,759
Speaker 1: them at bay and keep them off guard. But even

2011
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:36,720
Speaker 1: and thinking about all that, and in looking at the

2012
01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:41,439
Speaker 1: division and looking everything with it, I kept going back

2013
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:49,479
Speaker 1: to I kept going back to the quarterback spot and

2014
01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:53,120
Speaker 1: whether or not Anthony Richardson is a guy, what his

2015
01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:57,760
Speaker 1: contribution is going to be to the Indianapolis Colts, and

2016
01:46:57,880 --> 01:47:02,720
Speaker 1: what his place is within the franchise this season and

2017
01:47:02,800 --> 01:47:08,640
Speaker 1: moving forward, and how Daniel Jones changes that relationship. And

2018
01:47:08,680 --> 01:47:11,639
Speaker 1: I know that Chris Ballard has said and is adamant

2019
01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:15,200
Speaker 1: about the fact that Richardson's not going anywhere. I get that.

2020
01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:18,760
Speaker 1: I also get that Ballard kind of has to say that.

2021
01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:26,920
Speaker 1: But what I want to see and only time will tell,

2022
01:47:28,960 --> 01:47:31,160
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, Only Time will Tell is more

2023
01:47:31,200 --> 01:47:34,960
Speaker 1: than just a great early eighties song from Asia. It's

2024
01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:37,439
Speaker 1: also a clear statement when you talk about the Colts,

2025
01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:42,320
Speaker 1: because only Time will tell a couple of things. Only

2026
01:47:42,360 --> 01:47:45,559
Speaker 1: time will tell whether or not Daniel Jones Week one

2027
01:47:45,680 --> 01:47:49,360
Speaker 1: was the anomaly or the new normal in terms of

2028
01:47:49,400 --> 01:47:52,800
Speaker 1: the way that he can play, And only time will

2029
01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:58,360
Speaker 1: tell whether or not what we saw was a forecast

2030
01:47:58,360 --> 01:48:00,519
Speaker 1: of what they're going to be able to do against Denver,

2031
01:48:01,320 --> 01:48:05,960
Speaker 1: or against San Francisco, or against Seattle and those teams

2032
01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:10,839
Speaker 1: outside the division they have to face, or whether Dolphins

2033
01:48:10,880 --> 01:48:13,320
Speaker 1: so bad that we learned nothing from that yesterday and

2034
01:48:13,360 --> 01:48:15,360
Speaker 1: you're right back to square one with not having any

2035
01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:18,760
Speaker 1: idea who and what you are. Only time will tell

2036
01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:22,719
Speaker 1: those things. But there also was one thing that I think,

2037
01:48:23,800 --> 01:48:27,599
Speaker 1: as I mentioned last week, we can go back and

2038
01:48:27,640 --> 01:48:31,040
Speaker 1: we can now look at where all of the hints

2039
01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:36,439
Speaker 1: were dropped, and all of the forecast was there, and

2040
01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:43,559
Speaker 1: all of the verbiage and messaging was telling us very

2041
01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:51,200
Speaker 1: clearly one thing or certain about this team. And I

2042
01:48:51,439 --> 01:48:54,120
Speaker 1: mentioned that it was like the sixth sense where you

2043
01:48:54,280 --> 01:48:58,639
Speaker 1: then look back and everything makes sense. And then Shane

2044
01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:06,040
Speaker 1: Steichen started answering questions and he started making comments about

2045
01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:10,760
Speaker 1: different personnel within the Colts, and he said something, and

2046
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:14,200
Speaker 1: I said, there, it is right there that tells me

2047
01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:18,080
Speaker 1: everything I need to know, and I'll play it for

2048
01:49:18,160 --> 01:49:23,400
Speaker 1: you and tell you what he said next. So each

2049
01:49:23,439 --> 01:49:28,599
Speaker 1: and every step of the way along the preseason, from

2050
01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:33,280
Speaker 1: the time that we all converged on Grand Park, but

2051
01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:36,160
Speaker 1: that mattered for the time that it was announced there

2052
01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:39,360
Speaker 1: was going to be a quarterback competition. Hear ye, hear ye,

2053
01:49:41,720 --> 01:49:47,280
Speaker 1: extra extra read all about it, Submit right now your

2054
01:49:47,479 --> 01:49:50,120
Speaker 1: resume on LinkedIn if you can play quarterback for the

2055
01:49:50,120 --> 01:49:53,240
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. And you think your chance is now, Uncle Rico,

2056
01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:56,880
Speaker 1: throw it over the mountains and show up. And they

2057
01:49:56,920 --> 01:50:03,240
Speaker 1: said open competition. And Daniel Jones, the former top ten pick,

2058
01:50:04,479 --> 01:50:10,200
Speaker 1: the guy that oddly kind of looks like the animation

2059
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:14,920
Speaker 1: characters in the Kroger commercials, he's going to come in

2060
01:50:14,960 --> 01:50:17,120
Speaker 1: here and he's going to compete with Anthony Richardson, our

2061
01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:21,479
Speaker 1: wonder kid, who's our top four pick from a couple

2062
01:50:21,520 --> 01:50:24,920
Speaker 1: of years ago that when Chris Ballard may or may

2063
01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:27,080
Speaker 1: not have been mandated that now's the time to select

2064
01:50:27,120 --> 01:50:30,040
Speaker 1: a quarterback. He took the kid out of Florida. But

2065
01:50:30,080 --> 01:50:32,519
Speaker 1: we know a little about the SEC because Daniel Jones

2066
01:50:32,560 --> 01:50:35,080
Speaker 1: came out of the SEC as well, and he played

2067
01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:37,240
Speaker 1: in the bright lights, Big City in New York and

2068
01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:40,799
Speaker 1: had success got a big contract and then immediately started

2069
01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:46,080
Speaker 1: to regress. But we believe in Indianapolis that Daniel Jones

2070
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:48,720
Speaker 1: should get another chance because he had nobody that he

2071
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:51,280
Speaker 1: was throwing to, and he also had the bright lights,

2072
01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:56,519
Speaker 1: big city, big pressure of the New York media. And

2073
01:50:56,640 --> 01:51:01,120
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is more of a small town guy, likes

2074
01:51:01,160 --> 01:51:07,559
Speaker 1: the smaller feel of Indianapolis, just more of a laid

2075
01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:11,160
Speaker 1: back dude. And so we're gonna open it up and

2076
01:51:11,439 --> 01:51:15,840
Speaker 1: see who wins. And everybody converged, and I was there

2077
01:51:17,240 --> 01:51:21,479
Speaker 1: doing the show usually well after practice was over with it.

2078
01:51:21,560 --> 01:51:23,240
Speaker 1: I was alone by myself in one hundred and five

2079
01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:28,760
Speaker 1: degree field. But I digress. And so everybody's watching and

2080
01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:32,240
Speaker 1: they're analyzing and critiquing and scrutinizing every move and every

2081
01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:38,719
Speaker 1: throw and every piece of footwork, and people are posting

2082
01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:42,280
Speaker 1: it out. Daniel Jones today was seven of eleven on

2083
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:46,000
Speaker 1: the eleven on eleven drills. Anthony Richardson went five for five,

2084
01:51:46,120 --> 01:51:49,559
Speaker 1: really nice throw there with great touch, and then everyone

2085
01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:51,800
Speaker 1: to while Jason Bean was throwing and throw his hat

2086
01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:57,120
Speaker 1: in the ring, made a nice play. Riley Leonard, Eddie

2087
01:51:57,120 --> 01:52:01,200
Speaker 1: Garrison screaming it from the back right Riley Leonard's the

2088
01:52:01,240 --> 01:52:03,479
Speaker 1: guy that's the shelf. Both of them give it to

2089
01:52:03,520 --> 01:52:11,479
Speaker 1: Riley Leonard. But the whole time Shane Steiken was trying

2090
01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:17,000
Speaker 1: to tell us, he kept saying, it's not necessarily going

2091
01:52:17,080 --> 01:52:18,600
Speaker 1: to be the guy of everything you see on the

2092
01:52:18,640 --> 01:52:20,360
Speaker 1: field at Grand Park. It's not going to be the

2093
01:52:20,360 --> 01:52:22,720
Speaker 1: guy from everything you see on the field in the

2094
01:52:22,760 --> 01:52:29,679
Speaker 1: preseason games. It's about what takes place organizationally. It's about

2095
01:52:29,680 --> 01:52:34,200
Speaker 1: what takes place in the huddle. It's about what takes

2096
01:52:34,240 --> 01:52:38,040
Speaker 1: place in the meeting rooms. It's about what takes place

2097
01:52:39,120 --> 01:52:42,080
Speaker 1: in the cafeteria in the complex. And yes they have,

2098
01:52:42,960 --> 01:52:47,040
Speaker 1: you know, eating facilities and all of it. And then

2099
01:52:47,080 --> 01:52:49,599
Speaker 1: after Daniel Jones went out and looked really good against

2100
01:52:49,640 --> 01:52:55,080
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins, Shane Steiken was asked to review and

2101
01:52:55,120 --> 01:52:56,480
Speaker 1: critique his quarterback.

2102
01:52:56,680 --> 01:52:59,120
Speaker 4: I think he earned it quickly with his work ethic

2103
01:53:00,240 --> 01:53:03,080
Speaker 4: in here, grinding early, always the last one to leave.

2104
01:53:03,800 --> 01:53:06,280
Speaker 4: I think he connected with the guys really well, not

2105
01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:08,720
Speaker 4: only just the offensive guys, but the defensive guys. The

2106
01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:11,439
Speaker 4: way he communicates with those guys, and you walk in

2107
01:53:11,479 --> 01:53:14,120
Speaker 4: in the cafeterias, he's eaten with the linebacker or whoever

2108
01:53:14,160 --> 01:53:16,000
Speaker 4: it may be and going out with the dvs or

2109
01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:17,720
Speaker 4: whatever it is. So I thought he did a hell

2110
01:53:17,720 --> 01:53:20,599
Speaker 4: of a job earning their trust, connecting with them, and

2111
01:53:20,600 --> 01:53:22,559
Speaker 4: then just the way he prepares and the work he

2112
01:53:22,600 --> 01:53:24,720
Speaker 4: puts in and the performance that he had all through

2113
01:53:24,760 --> 01:53:27,479
Speaker 4: OTAs and in the training camp, and to see the

2114
01:53:27,520 --> 01:53:30,439
Speaker 4: performance like he did have you know yesterday on Sunday,

2115
01:53:30,680 --> 01:53:32,760
Speaker 4: it was awesome. I wasn't surprised because I know the

2116
01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:35,559
Speaker 4: work he puts in. The guys fought for him like crazy,

2117
01:53:36,240 --> 01:53:37,240
Speaker 4: and he played a hell of a game.

2118
01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:41,559
Speaker 1: Okay, let's go back to what he said there. He's

2119
01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:45,240
Speaker 1: talking about earning the trust and earning the job of

2120
01:53:45,280 --> 01:53:51,799
Speaker 1: his teammates and of his coaches, and what did he say? Now,

2121
01:53:53,600 --> 01:53:56,920
Speaker 1: he just had a game, did Daniel Jones? Where he

2122
01:53:57,000 --> 01:54:01,480
Speaker 1: was very efficient against the Miami Dolphins and he looked good.

2123
01:54:01,720 --> 01:54:04,840
Speaker 1: And literally when I asked people for their three words

2124
01:54:05,400 --> 01:54:14,160
Speaker 1: to assess game number one, the three words that people said,

2125
01:54:14,360 --> 01:54:22,599
Speaker 1: we have QB. Jones, slightly better better than expected, those

2126
01:54:22,680 --> 01:54:25,160
Speaker 1: kinds of things, right, That's what everybody was going back

2127
01:54:25,200 --> 01:54:29,080
Speaker 1: and forth about. And why is that? You ask what

2128
01:54:29,160 --> 01:54:32,120
Speaker 1: was it that he did? It isn't It wasn't even

2129
01:54:32,160 --> 01:54:34,240
Speaker 1: necessarily what he did as much as what he didn't do.

2130
01:54:35,680 --> 01:54:40,960
Speaker 1: Didn't throw the ball away in terms of interceptions, didn't

2131
01:54:41,000 --> 01:54:46,560
Speaker 1: have costly turnovers, didn't sail it over Tyler Warren's head

2132
01:54:46,760 --> 01:54:53,520
Speaker 1: on a regular basis, didn't underthrow Michael Pittman the numbers

2133
01:54:53,560 --> 01:55:01,840
Speaker 1: twenty two of twenty nine with a touch. Okay, but

2134
01:55:02,040 --> 01:55:04,760
Speaker 1: listen again to what Shane Steichen says. I'm gonna play

2135
01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:08,040
Speaker 1: it one more time, and I'm gonna make notes this time,

2136
01:55:09,920 --> 01:55:11,840
Speaker 1: and I'm going to point out what he doesn't say.

2137
01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:16,520
Speaker 4: I think he earned it quickly with his work ethic

2138
01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:20,480
Speaker 4: in here, grinding early, always the last one to leave.

2139
01:55:21,200 --> 01:55:23,680
Speaker 4: I think he connected with the guys really well, not

2140
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:26,120
Speaker 4: only just the offensive guys, but the defensive guys. The

2141
01:55:26,160 --> 01:55:28,840
Speaker 4: way he communicates with those guys, and you walk in

2142
01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:31,520
Speaker 4: in the cafeterias, he's eating with the linebacker or whoever

2143
01:55:31,560 --> 01:55:33,400
Speaker 4: it may be, and going out with the dbs or

2144
01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:35,080
Speaker 4: whatever it is. So I thought he did a hell

2145
01:55:35,120 --> 01:55:38,000
Speaker 4: of a job earning their trust, connecting with them. And

2146
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:39,960
Speaker 4: then just the way he prepares and the work he

2147
01:55:40,000 --> 01:55:42,120
Speaker 4: puts in and the performance that he had all through

2148
01:55:42,160 --> 01:55:44,880
Speaker 4: OTAs and in the training camp, and to see the

2149
01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:47,839
Speaker 4: performance like he did. Have you know yesterday on Sunday

2150
01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:50,160
Speaker 4: it was awesome. I wasn't surprised because I know the

2151
01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:52,959
Speaker 4: work he puts in. Guys fought for him like crazy,

2152
01:55:53,640 --> 01:55:54,360
Speaker 4: and he played a hell.

2153
01:55:54,240 --> 01:55:54,640
Speaker 5: Of a game.

2154
01:55:56,280 --> 01:56:02,440
Speaker 1: Did he mention his footwork? Did he mention his precision?

2155
01:56:04,360 --> 01:56:09,440
Speaker 1: Did he mention his progressions? Did he mention his ability

2156
01:56:09,480 --> 01:56:17,520
Speaker 1: to pick up a blitz? Did he mention his navigation

2157
01:56:17,720 --> 01:56:21,200
Speaker 1: through a defense and finding a fourth receiving option and

2158
01:56:21,280 --> 01:56:31,000
Speaker 1: extending plays? What he mentioned was this grinding daily showing

2159
01:56:31,080 --> 01:56:38,960
Speaker 1: up early, last to leave communicates eating with the linebackers

2160
01:56:38,960 --> 01:56:46,040
Speaker 1: in the cafeteria, going out with the defensive backs, earning

2161
01:56:46,120 --> 01:56:50,400
Speaker 1: the trust of his teammates, getting guys that wanted to

2162
01:56:50,480 --> 01:56:55,400
Speaker 1: win and fight for him. I'm not saying that Shane

2163
01:56:55,440 --> 01:57:01,840
Speaker 1: Steiken is indicting or calling out Anthony Richardson, and be

2164
01:57:01,880 --> 01:57:05,800
Speaker 1: irresponsible to me to say I don't know that. But

2165
01:57:05,920 --> 01:57:09,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is Shane Steiken had a young quarterback

2166
01:57:09,160 --> 01:57:13,200
Speaker 1: that he was assigned and expected to awaken and be

2167
01:57:13,240 --> 01:57:17,680
Speaker 1: a whisperer for, and he tried whispering all the things

2168
01:57:17,720 --> 01:57:23,640
Speaker 1: that Anthony Richardson needed to do, show up early, be

2169
01:57:23,720 --> 01:57:28,360
Speaker 1: the last guy to leave, you municate to your teammates,

2170
01:57:30,240 --> 01:57:34,840
Speaker 1: and eventually he had to start shouting them, and then

2171
01:57:34,880 --> 01:57:37,480
Speaker 1: he shouted them, and he then came to us and said,

2172
01:57:37,960 --> 01:57:42,920
Speaker 1: these are the things I'm talking about. That's organizational leadership.

2173
01:57:43,480 --> 01:57:48,000
Speaker 1: That's doing the things that we the fans don't see,

2174
01:57:48,160 --> 01:57:51,080
Speaker 1: that we the media don't see, that the season ticket

2175
01:57:51,080 --> 01:57:56,160
Speaker 1: holders don't see. In the lunch room, in the meeting room,

2176
01:57:56,640 --> 01:58:02,280
Speaker 1: showing up early, and Shane not being surprised that the

2177
01:58:02,360 --> 01:58:09,000
Speaker 1: teammates were willing to battle for for Daniel Jones. He

2178
01:58:09,040 --> 01:58:13,000
Speaker 1: didn't go so far as to say, unlike how I

2179
01:58:13,160 --> 01:58:18,560
Speaker 1: didn't see them fight for Anthony Richardson. And I realize,

2180
01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:21,320
Speaker 1: and I know, and I don't think Anthony Richardson is disliked.

2181
01:58:21,400 --> 01:58:26,280
Speaker 1: I don't. I think guys thought they respected Anthony Richardson,

2182
01:58:28,480 --> 01:58:30,960
Speaker 1: but then you bring in Daniel Jones, and I think

2183
01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:33,040
Speaker 1: there were a lot of guys that thought, actually, you

2184
01:58:33,080 --> 01:58:36,160
Speaker 1: know what, Now, I do know what that respect level

2185
01:58:36,280 --> 01:58:39,880
Speaker 1: is because I was polling for Richardson and I wanted

2186
01:58:39,960 --> 01:58:42,400
Speaker 1: him to do well, and he's a nice guy and

2187
01:58:42,840 --> 01:58:46,920
Speaker 1: he's a mega talent. But I didn't realize what I

2188
01:58:46,960 --> 01:58:49,880
Speaker 1: didn't realize until Daniel Jones got here, and then I

2189
01:58:49,920 --> 01:58:52,240
Speaker 1: saw the things that Jones was doing and realized that

2190
01:58:52,360 --> 01:58:57,000
Speaker 1: stuff that Richardson wasn't doing, and all of those things

2191
01:58:57,000 --> 01:59:01,240
Speaker 1: that Shane Steichen literally just said in that answer to

2192
01:59:01,280 --> 01:59:04,160
Speaker 1: Matt Taylor, that is the montage at the end of

2193
01:59:04,200 --> 01:59:07,000
Speaker 1: the movie where you realize that Bruce Willis was shivering

2194
01:59:07,080 --> 01:59:10,240
Speaker 1: for a reason. And that was the montage at the

2195
01:59:10,320 --> 01:59:12,280
Speaker 1: end of the movie where you realize that he wasn't

2196
01:59:12,320 --> 01:59:14,920
Speaker 1: actually in the basement watching his wife cheat on him.

2197
01:59:15,920 --> 01:59:17,600
Speaker 1: And that was the montage at the end of the

2198
01:59:17,600 --> 01:59:20,440
Speaker 1: movie when you realize that his wife wasn't upset with

2199
01:59:20,520 --> 01:59:22,280
Speaker 1: him during the birthday dinner when she got up and

2200
01:59:22,320 --> 01:59:24,280
Speaker 1: walked out on the bill. There was a reason for

2201
01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:26,200
Speaker 1: all of it, and the director was trying to tell

2202
01:59:26,240 --> 01:59:28,320
Speaker 1: us the entire movie, and then finally at the end

2203
01:59:28,400 --> 01:59:30,960
Speaker 1: he just stood up and stood at the front of

2204
01:59:30,960 --> 01:59:33,320
Speaker 1: the movie theater and said, listen to you, morons, this

2205
01:59:33,360 --> 01:59:36,400
Speaker 1: is what I'm talking about. And that's exactly what that

2206
01:59:36,480 --> 01:59:39,120
Speaker 1: just was. That was Shane Stiken telling us, this is

2207
01:59:39,120 --> 01:59:41,160
Speaker 1: what I've been telling you all along. It's the stuff

2208
01:59:41,200 --> 01:59:43,720
Speaker 1: you didn't see, and you saw the result of it

2209
01:59:43,800 --> 01:59:46,720
Speaker 1: in Game number one, and now all you gotta do

2210
01:59:47,160 --> 01:59:51,840
Speaker 1: is follow it up in game number two. I have

2211
01:59:51,880 --> 01:59:56,000
Speaker 1: a very important question for Eddie and Caleb. I'll let

2212
01:59:56,000 --> 01:59:57,800
Speaker 1: both of you guys chime in on this if you'd like,

2213
01:59:58,440 --> 02:00:01,040
Speaker 1: before J ANDV comes in for our Love Heating and

2214
02:00:01,080 --> 02:00:03,760
Speaker 1: Air Crossover talk. As we handed off to John to

2215
02:00:03,760 --> 02:00:05,720
Speaker 1: see what he's got lined up on the program today,

2216
02:00:06,960 --> 02:00:09,720
Speaker 1: I have to this is a very I this happens

2217
02:00:09,720 --> 02:00:12,160
Speaker 1: to me like once a year. I'm kind of like

2218
02:00:12,240 --> 02:00:14,160
Speaker 1: Steve Martin and the jerk with the new phone book.

2219
02:00:16,640 --> 02:00:18,160
Speaker 1: Every once in a while, I like to mix it

2220
02:00:18,240 --> 02:00:22,040
Speaker 1: up and get a different license plate. So my plates

2221
02:00:22,080 --> 02:00:24,960
Speaker 1: are are eligible for you know, I've got to get

2222
02:00:25,000 --> 02:00:29,960
Speaker 1: new plates. Now. What's going to be interesting is I

2223
02:00:30,080 --> 02:00:33,800
Speaker 1: just now am ordering them and the little sticker delio

2224
02:00:33,920 --> 02:00:36,040
Speaker 1: is up on the fourteenth. So if the plates don't

2225
02:00:36,040 --> 02:00:37,760
Speaker 1: come quick enough, I mean, I guess you can go

2226
02:00:37,800 --> 02:00:39,640
Speaker 1: into the B and B and take this. Take care

2227
02:00:39,640 --> 02:00:42,920
Speaker 1: of this, I realize, But I'll have to drive around

2228
02:00:42,960 --> 02:00:44,520
Speaker 1: with the receipt. I guess in case I get pulled

2229
02:00:44,560 --> 02:00:45,920
Speaker 1: over and I could say no, no, I did up

2230
02:00:45,960 --> 02:00:47,600
Speaker 1: well the time. I mean, if you get pulled over,

2231
02:00:47,680 --> 02:00:49,760
Speaker 1: they can pull it up and it'll be up to

2232
02:00:49,840 --> 02:00:52,720
Speaker 1: day in the Yeah, and get pulled over, you know

2233
02:00:52,720 --> 02:00:54,920
Speaker 1: what I mean? Just don't get pulled over, Jake. Well,

2234
02:00:55,120 --> 02:00:57,560
Speaker 1: pretty simply, if they see the sticker, they can pull

2235
02:00:57,600 --> 02:00:59,720
Speaker 1: you over. Right then if they realize they're expired.

2236
02:00:59,440 --> 02:01:01,120
Speaker 2: Well if they run your plate, would they would see

2237
02:01:01,160 --> 02:01:02,040
Speaker 2: that it's been renewed.

2238
02:01:02,360 --> 02:01:04,000
Speaker 1: That's that's fair before they pull you over.

2239
02:01:04,000 --> 02:01:05,000
Speaker 2: Even Yeah.

2240
02:01:05,040 --> 02:01:08,760
Speaker 1: So here's the question though, do I get one of

2241
02:01:08,800 --> 02:01:13,200
Speaker 1: these specialty plates or just go with the standard? Now

2242
02:01:13,640 --> 02:01:15,640
Speaker 1: when I say the standard, they have a new option

2243
02:01:15,800 --> 02:01:17,960
Speaker 1: and it is a couple of bucks extra of the

2244
02:01:18,080 --> 02:01:20,720
Speaker 1: blackout plate, which is just the black license plate. Now

2245
02:01:20,800 --> 02:01:22,080
Speaker 1: keep in mind i'd drive a black car.

2246
02:01:22,280 --> 02:01:25,840
Speaker 3: So you're saying the special the specialty plate is cheaper

2247
02:01:25,920 --> 02:01:26,640
Speaker 3: than the standard.

2248
02:01:26,680 --> 02:01:29,440
Speaker 1: Place. No, the standard plate. The specialty plates, I believe,

2249
02:01:29,520 --> 02:01:32,920
Speaker 1: are an additional forty dollars, and those are the different Caleb,

2250
02:01:32,960 --> 02:01:36,760
Speaker 1: by the way, is newer to Indiana by way of Ohio,

2251
02:01:37,080 --> 02:01:40,080
Speaker 1: where he grew up in Minneapolis. It's true. So the

2252
02:01:40,960 --> 02:01:43,080
Speaker 1: specialty plates, Caleb, are the ones you see that have

2253
02:01:43,240 --> 02:01:45,600
Speaker 1: like there's a Colts. Is there a Colts one?

2254
02:01:45,640 --> 02:01:51,040
Speaker 2: Actually, there's a FA, there is Pacers, there's IU Purdue Speedway.

2255
02:01:51,280 --> 02:01:55,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you have different organizations like the Native

2256
02:01:55,000 --> 02:01:58,160
Speaker 1: American Council has won the juvenile diabetes et cetera. So

2257
02:01:58,440 --> 02:02:00,960
Speaker 1: do I go with a specialty play? Do I go

2258
02:02:01,080 --> 02:02:04,400
Speaker 1: with just the standard blue plate? H And by the way,

2259
02:02:04,440 --> 02:02:07,000
Speaker 1: I did one time design a plate for Indiana that

2260
02:02:07,040 --> 02:02:10,720
Speaker 1: they didn't select, and I'm bitter about that. Or do

2261
02:02:10,800 --> 02:02:11,960
Speaker 1: I go with the blackout plate?

2262
02:02:12,640 --> 02:02:14,760
Speaker 2: Well, knowing you, Jake, well, first and foremost, what do

2263
02:02:14,760 --> 02:02:15,360
Speaker 2: you have right now?

2264
02:02:16,120 --> 02:02:16,600
Speaker 1: Standard?

2265
02:02:16,640 --> 02:02:17,080
Speaker 2: Standard?

2266
02:02:17,120 --> 02:02:17,440
Speaker 1: Okay?

2267
02:02:17,520 --> 02:02:19,480
Speaker 2: So I mean you're a special guy, So why not

2268
02:02:19,560 --> 02:02:20,520
Speaker 2: go with the specialty plate?

2269
02:02:21,000 --> 02:02:21,920
Speaker 1: Which one would I go with?

2270
02:02:22,400 --> 02:02:24,120
Speaker 2: Well, you certainly got to go with one that you

2271
02:02:24,160 --> 02:02:27,320
Speaker 2: know benefits animals, the animal shelter or something like that.

2272
02:02:27,320 --> 02:02:29,400
Speaker 1: That's that's a good call. That's a good call. I

2273
02:02:29,480 --> 02:02:29,680
Speaker 1: like that.

2274
02:02:29,800 --> 02:02:33,320
Speaker 3: I can't see you doing something ordinary, so I feel

2275
02:02:33,360 --> 02:02:34,520
Speaker 3: like you got to be doing something.

2276
02:02:34,600 --> 02:02:36,480
Speaker 1: I'm not going to get a personalized plate though, I

2277
02:02:36,480 --> 02:02:38,000
Speaker 1: can tell you that also, Caleb, I don't know if

2278
02:02:38,000 --> 02:02:38,760
Speaker 1: you know this Sanaba.

2279
02:02:38,840 --> 02:02:41,200
Speaker 2: Jake is loaded with that IndyCar job he does. He's

2280
02:02:41,200 --> 02:02:42,240
Speaker 2: got all the money in the world.

2281
02:02:42,520 --> 02:02:44,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't don't we wish?

2282
02:02:44,680 --> 02:02:44,800
Speaker 5: Uh?

2283
02:02:45,200 --> 02:02:47,240
Speaker 1: The answer is, by the way, I opted for the

2284
02:02:47,240 --> 02:02:49,840
Speaker 1: standard blackout plate. So it's just a black license plate

2285
02:02:49,880 --> 02:02:52,320
Speaker 1: because I have a black car. U. J ANDB is

2286
02:02:52,360 --> 02:02:53,960
Speaker 1: a rock. That is a sweet shirt you got on,

2287
02:02:54,000 --> 02:02:57,520
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. The shop Broad Ripple Carmel downtown

2288
02:02:57,560 --> 02:03:01,800
Speaker 1: off mass A. Brian Kelly, Alex the Brick Shirt House

2289
02:03:02,280 --> 02:03:04,280
Speaker 1: right here. That is a good looking got three of them.

2290
02:03:04,320 --> 02:03:07,240
Speaker 1: Indiana State is right. This is nice though. What's lined

2291
02:03:07,320 --> 02:03:10,760
Speaker 1: up on the big program some guy from Denver, Greg Gregstraw,

2292
02:03:10,760 --> 02:03:13,000
Speaker 1: which would be some guy from southern Indiana. And then

2293
02:03:13,160 --> 02:03:15,839
Speaker 1: another guy from southern Indiana me. Have you been to Denver?

2294
02:03:16,360 --> 02:03:18,960
Speaker 1: I have you like Denver? I think I landed there

2295
02:03:19,040 --> 02:03:21,720
Speaker 1: once coming back from Alaska. You know they got the

2296
02:03:21,800 --> 02:03:24,480
Speaker 1: airport's haunted. Did you know that? I did not know

2297
02:03:24,560 --> 02:03:27,200
Speaker 1: that there's like this the new one, the new airport

2298
02:03:27,240 --> 02:03:29,640
Speaker 1: in Denver. When they were building it, they had a

2299
02:03:29,640 --> 02:03:31,920
Speaker 1: couple of tragedies that took place. But there's this whole

2300
02:03:32,240 --> 02:03:35,560
Speaker 1: conspiracy that it's like this hiding place for the Illuminati,

2301
02:03:36,040 --> 02:03:40,200
Speaker 1: and people think that it's like this underground Delio. People

2302
02:03:40,360 --> 02:03:43,560
Speaker 1: love Denver, Colorado. A lot of people from here live there.

2303
02:03:44,440 --> 02:03:46,600
Speaker 1: True story. You know you know whose hometown that is

2304
02:03:49,560 --> 02:03:52,280
Speaker 1: a person very significant in your life, John, that would

2305
02:03:52,280 --> 02:03:57,640
Speaker 1: be one. Shannon Walls correct went to Columbine High School?

2306
02:03:57,760 --> 02:04:01,160
Speaker 1: That matter? Did you really? Yeah? I mean before that happened.

2307
02:04:01,360 --> 02:04:05,320
Speaker 1: Whoa she knew, knew a lot of the people involved

2308
02:04:05,320 --> 02:04:07,400
Speaker 1: in that. I didn't know she went to Columbine High School?

2309
02:04:07,440 --> 02:04:11,400
Speaker 1: She did? So did you watch anything last night? And

2310
02:04:11,600 --> 02:04:13,480
Speaker 1: did you watch JJ McCarthy last night? I thought he

2311
02:04:13,520 --> 02:04:15,680
Speaker 1: was pretty impressive. Well here's what I did. Yeah, I did.

2312
02:04:15,920 --> 02:04:18,440
Speaker 1: Everybody crept on him and until the end of the game.

2313
02:04:18,840 --> 02:04:20,760
Speaker 1: The only thing I watched all the game except I

2314
02:04:20,800 --> 02:04:22,920
Speaker 1: turned over and watched The Rockford Files during the half

2315
02:04:22,920 --> 02:04:26,320
Speaker 1: because I can't watch that crap. The Rockford Files has,

2316
02:04:26,600 --> 02:04:31,800
Speaker 1: would you agree the best opening sixty seconds? Yeah, with

2317
02:04:31,840 --> 02:04:35,080
Speaker 1: the answer machine every time something different, Yeah, yeah, there's

2318
02:04:35,120 --> 02:04:39,640
Speaker 1: no doubt. And then the Deity. Yeah. So last night

2319
02:04:39,720 --> 02:04:44,320
Speaker 1: Larry Hagman did a guest star role on The Rockford Files.

2320
02:04:44,360 --> 02:04:47,360
Speaker 1: It was before Dallas started. I think Dallas just was

2321
02:04:47,400 --> 02:04:51,960
Speaker 1: getting ready to start. If you had to guess, give

2322
02:04:52,000 --> 02:04:55,280
Speaker 1: me the opening year and the closing year that The

2323
02:04:55,360 --> 02:04:58,680
Speaker 1: Rockford Files was on the air nineteen seventy four to

2324
02:04:58,880 --> 02:05:01,800
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty, I would say seventy four to eighty three,

2325
02:05:02,080 --> 02:05:09,040
Speaker 1: is it? Yeah, Okay, I'm pretty James Garner was very

2326
02:05:09,080 --> 02:05:11,440
Speaker 1: involved in the speedway for years because he drove the

2327
02:05:11,480 --> 02:05:13,440
Speaker 1: pace car and he was a racing enthusiast. You think

2328
02:05:13,440 --> 02:05:15,360
Speaker 1: you ever had any hen and she in going on

2329
02:05:15,360 --> 02:05:22,000
Speaker 1: on the speedway motel. You know, here's the thing about him,

2330
02:05:22,320 --> 02:05:25,000
Speaker 1: and obviously well before either of our time of being

2331
02:05:25,040 --> 02:05:28,400
Speaker 1: out there, but the one thing I will say is

2332
02:05:28,440 --> 02:05:31,520
Speaker 1: in talking to different people and being involved in the speedway,

2333
02:05:32,240 --> 02:05:35,880
Speaker 1: there apparently has never been a better dude, that's what

2334
02:05:35,920 --> 02:05:38,800
Speaker 1: they said, A nicer person, good to everyone than James Garner.

2335
02:05:38,840 --> 02:05:42,200
Speaker 1: He apparently was literally the most down to earth, just

2336
02:05:42,400 --> 02:05:46,920
Speaker 1: everybody's friend, never met a stranger, totally polite to everybody.

2337
02:05:47,040 --> 02:05:49,560
Speaker 1: I've never heard anything other than he was literally the

2338
02:05:49,560 --> 02:05:52,280
Speaker 1: most decent human being ever. I believe his daughter's active

2339
02:05:52,320 --> 02:05:54,720
Speaker 1: on social media too. Is she follows me on Twitter?

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Speaker 2: That's awesome?

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Speaker 1: And I follow her on Twitter? Yeah, and she's she

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Speaker 1: does a lot with animals. I know that she puts

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Speaker 1: a lot of pictures of James Garner. For James Garner

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Speaker 1: in the mid nineteen eighties, did what film opposite of

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Speaker 1: Cee Thomas Howell not to be confused with Thurston Holle

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Speaker 1: see Thomas How the first thing that came to mind,

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Speaker 1: and I get this confused. I know it's not the

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Speaker 1: correct answer. I he feels to me, James Garner feels

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Speaker 1: to me like he would have been in like BJ

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Speaker 1: and the Bear or what was the other one, like

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Speaker 1: Canniball Runner, one of those movies. But I know it

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Speaker 1: wasn't that he was in Tank, Remember the movie Tank

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Speaker 1: was see Thomas How. I will say this, I'm surprised

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Speaker 1: that we haven't had some kind of reboot of the

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Speaker 1: Rockford Files in some way, because everything else has been rebooted,

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Speaker 1: has it not to this point? You know? It's funny, John,

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Speaker 1: When I was just in California, I was driving and

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Speaker 1: I actually saw a highway patrolman on the bike on

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Speaker 1: the heart. That's awesome. Its Chips. You call him a chip.

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Speaker 1: Say hey, John Baker, come over here, Ponge rolling around.

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Speaker 1: John Baker was straight at an arrow and Punch was

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Speaker 1: out there. Remember when Eric Estrada got in an actual

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Speaker 1: biking act and like the early eighties and like it

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Speaker 1: was like hell yeah, updates of it and the whole deal.

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Speaker 1: The greatest Chips episode of all time, is the roller

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Speaker 1: boogie episode. Remember when they had all the stars from

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Speaker 1: NBC kind of raising money for a cause.

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Speaker 2: And they were all on and they were all.

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Speaker 1: Roller discoing and it was like Todd Bridges and Dana

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Speaker 1: Plato and awesome. They must have filled it the same

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Speaker 1: day as Battle of the Network start. We'll look it

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Speaker 1: up on YouTube. Sometimes the roller disco episode of Chips

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Speaker 1: is incredible. John is up next. He will be with

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Speaker 1: that's me and now John the cool guy comes in.

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Speaker 1: That's the way we do it, and we do it

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Speaker 1: next