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Speaker 1: Line from Vall Hartber and The Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today. Jack Smith is on the stand.

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Speaker 2: I will get to that in a moment. His testimony

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Speaker 2: in front of the House Committee Committee and the questions

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Speaker 2: asked to him by Representative Jim Jordan, Tony Katz, Tony kats.

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Speaker 3: Today, good to be here, good to be with you.

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Speaker 3: Who is Jack Smith? And Jack Smith was the.

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Speaker 2: Special counsel he was investigating President Trump, although he never

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Speaker 2: had the right to be a special counsel.

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Speaker 3: But don't let that stop anybody from having a good time.

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Speaker 2: He was the one who said, you know, show me

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Speaker 2: the man and I'll show you the crime. Like he's

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Speaker 2: this great American I should be caring much about.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe he is or was at all.

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Speaker 2: But the big story right now is that there have

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Speaker 2: been arrests that have taken place Minnesota. Agitators arrested in

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Speaker 2: the wake of the church invasion. This according to Pam Bondy,

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Speaker 2: the Attorney General of the United States. Minutes ago, at

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Speaker 2: my direction, FBI agents executed and arrest in Minnesota. So far,

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Speaker 2: we have arrested Nakima Levy Armstrong, who allegedly played a role,

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Speaker 2: a key role in organizing the coordinated attack on the

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Speaker 2: city's church in Saint Paul, Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: We will share more updates has that become available. Listen

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Speaker 3: loud and clear. We do not tolerate attacks on.

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Speaker 2: Places of worship, and she wrote that in all capital letters,

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Speaker 2: so the Attorney General must be serious.

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Speaker 3: Personally, I'm impressed.

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Speaker 2: We got arrests in something that people should have been

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Speaker 2: Some people were saying, we know, these things take time.

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Speaker 2: You got to give people time. You got to give

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Speaker 2: the AG time and the FBI time. I know, I

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Speaker 2: don't believe that they actually prosecute. I'm amazed to see it,

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Speaker 2: So don't tell me I need to give them time.

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Speaker 3: And it was always going to be this way. That's

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Speaker 2: The update from the Attorney general, second arrest has been

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Speaker 2: made in my direction. Chan till Luisa Allen has been

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Speaker 3: So you have two arrests that have taken place.

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Speaker 2: Christinome following up saying that these people have been arrested

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Speaker 2: charged under the federal crime under eighteen US two forty one.

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Speaker 2: Religious freedom is the bedrock of the United States. There

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Speaker 2: is no verse Amendment right to obstruct someone from practicing

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Speaker 2: their religion. And that is what happened. That is what

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Speaker 2: took place. We should note that this Chan till Allen.

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Speaker 2: She's a member of the Saint Paul School Board. Now

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Speaker 2: I've got a whole school board story that lives of

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Speaker 2: TikTok has now made national, which involves a high school

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Speaker 2: quite literally just down the road from me, just down

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Speaker 2: story is about something we discussed yesterday, a national walkout

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Speaker 2: to protest ice from children. I know they don't like

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Speaker 2: being referred to as that, but when you're sixteen and

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Speaker 2: when you're seventeen, that's what.

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Speaker 3: You are, and it's okay anythink. I'm not saying you're

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Speaker 2: I am saying that I don't listen to you when

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Speaker 2: it comes to policy. And if there are indeed parents

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Speaker 2: supporting you skipping school so you can engage some kind

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Speaker 2: and outs of immigration, illegal immigration and the rest those

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Speaker 2: being two different things, well then I've got a problem.

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Speaker 2: You not being in school is a problem. I was

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Speaker 2: told the school is very important, and now I'm hearing

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Speaker 3: Have to get fired. I'm going to get into this subject.

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Speaker 2: At the high school near me, they can hear me.

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm live and guaranteed people are right now calling

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Speaker 3: Is going to talk about this. Oh yeah, I expect

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Speaker 2: The arrests are a good thing. The arrests don't end

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Speaker 2: the thing. I'm impressed. One could argue that these arrests

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Speaker 2: am not so sure about that. A good tactic is

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Speaker 2: one of these low lifes referring to himself as a revolutionary, saying,

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Speaker 3: Don't like what I did, you just kill me.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, kill me, because you can kill the revolutionary,

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Speaker 2: but you can't kill the revolution. So this isn't about

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Speaker 2: ice This isn't about ice tactics. Can we put an

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Speaker 2: end to the conversation? This is about ice and ice tactics. Know,

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Speaker 2: this is about the political left wanting to do put

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Speaker 3: How do you do this? You go after Christians? What

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Speaker 3: angry at. We discussed it here. We all know the answer.

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Speaker 3: Jews were first.

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Speaker 2: You've heard people say this, it's just a canary and

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Speaker 2: the coal mines. In order for the Marxist to be

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Speaker 2: successful in the Red Green Alliance, to have any type

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Speaker 2: have to put an.

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Speaker 3: End to Christians.

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Speaker 2: That's what you have to do. How else can you

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Speaker 2: topple Western civilization? Toppling my people are easy. You know

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Speaker 2: how many times a day I get asked why are

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Speaker 2: Jews liberals? And the answer is, I don't know. Most

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Speaker 2: probably because they're schmucks. I have no clue. It's based

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Speaker 2: on pseudo intellectualism of something called tikunulum, of something the

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Speaker 2: idea of repairing the world that doesn't lead to leftism

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Speaker 2: because communism doesn't repair anything. And yet we have Rabbi

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Speaker 2: after Rabbi and Canter after cantor that engages in a

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Speaker 2: gross misinterpretation in my view, of these concepts and push

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Speaker 2: failure on every level. It's a failure of reform Judaism

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Speaker 2: and reconstructions Judaism engaging in kind of people they make

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Speaker 2: rabbis and put onto the pulpits, put onto the beamas,

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Speaker 2: and then engage in a nonsense with their parishioners, with

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Speaker 2: their congregants. It's shameful. Oh, don't worry, I just got

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Speaker 2: uninvited to a whole bunch of houses and a whole

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Speaker 2: bunch of high holidays. Turns out I'm available for Hanukkah

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Speaker 2: if anybody wants to invite me Nights one, two, seven,

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Speaker 2: so help me. I will not use names. I when

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Speaker 2: And you know you still see because of Facebook and things,

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Speaker 3: Those kinds of things.

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Speaker 2: And someone a few years back started referring to me

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Speaker 2: dare you? And the whole thing trader because they were

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Speaker 2: a leftist. I'm a conservative, I'm a trader. I'm the

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Speaker 2: for people who don't think that you should be blocking

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Speaker 2: They vote for people who support the biggots, the biggest

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Speaker 2: bigots amongst us. I'm the trader these people. People are

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Speaker 2: fools because in many, many parts of Judaism they've given

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Speaker 2: how possibly could you be rational.

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Speaker 3: I'm a conservative, I'm also Jewish.

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Speaker 2: But I'm a father and I'm a husband, and I'm

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Speaker 2: a host of things, and my politics don't run my life.

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Speaker 2: I engage them because I believe that this is the

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Speaker 2: live to the moment of their happiness, accomplish the most,

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Speaker 2: engage the most liberty.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm pushing, and I won't lie I'm pushing it.

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Speaker 2: I share these ideas and these thoughts not because it's

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Speaker 2: I would be all day Trump all the time because

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Speaker 2: that's good for clicks. Or I would be never Trump

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Speaker 3: Being rational turns out.

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Speaker 2: Does it get you as many clicks, kitten, which brings

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Speaker 2: us back to the people storming churches, and that these

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Speaker 3: From storming churches. And now they'll know.

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Speaker 2: And I say, a good tactic is one that your

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Speaker 3: And they enjoy intimidation, they enjoy the violence, they enjoy

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Speaker 2: Some people got arrested. Oh well, on to the next

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Speaker 2: I said when this happened, that we are a week

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Speaker 3: I don't want it. I don't want any of this.

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Speaker 3: I have said many times in my life.

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Speaker 3: Will agree, we'll disagree. Sometimes I'll win, sometimes I'll lose.

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Speaker 2: But we actually believe that America should be America, that

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Speaker 2: Is have a good conversation, eat a steak, and have

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Speaker 3: And sometimes I don't even need the conversation. That's the

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Speaker 2: We push forth with taking a look at the reality

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Speaker 3: And the reality states that.

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Speaker 2: Nothing has shown me that the left isn't interested in

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Speaker 2: more and more and more and more violence. There has

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Speaker 2: been no talking down what happened in this church. This

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Speaker 2: is wrong, ladies and gentlemen. We don't do this. This

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Speaker 2: is the bridge too far. They can't even say it

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Speaker 2: And I'm not just talking about Renee Good. None the slightest.

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Speaker 2: I'm discussing what's been happening with ICE agents all over

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Speaker 3: Ha ha. Could you imagine any other situation where this

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Speaker 2: What has shown anybody that they have backed down? The

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Speaker 3: Now? I don't now. Maybe I'm just being cynical, right,

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Speaker 3: Maybe I'm just being angry. Someone said to me in

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Speaker 2: Fooling no one with these things. These two women have

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Speaker 2: been arrested. Let me ask, when does Don Lemon, the

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Speaker 2: former CNN host, get arrested because Don lemon.

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Speaker 3: Knew what was going on. Don lemon knew exactly what

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Speaker 2: This, this is the video Don Lemon speaking before this

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Speaker 2: group UH invaded the church and engaged in terrorizing.

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Speaker 4: People into Minneapolis a little bit ago and did some

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Speaker 2: Come on, say it with me, co conspirator.

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Speaker 3: I'm Tony Kax, and this is Tony Kats today. The

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Speaker 2: The President of the United States, his name is Donald

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Speaker 3: You've seen the pictures he announced the deal he put.

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Speaker 2: Out there on on the on the social media's on

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Speaker 3: He has a he has a place all his own

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Speaker 3: A very little there. It is based upon a very

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Speaker 3: Based on a very productive meeting, there we go that

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Speaker 3: I had with the Secretary General of NATO, Mark Root.

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Speaker 2: We have formed the framework of a future deal with

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Speaker 2: This solution of consummated will be a great one for

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Speaker 3: That were scheduled to go in effect on February first.

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Speaker 2: Additional discussions are being held concerning the Golden Dome as

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Speaker 3: Thank you for your attention to this matter. No crap.

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Speaker 3: Who didn't know that this was coming? All of that

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Speaker 3: All of this was about creating maximum leverage to create

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Speaker 3: without the historyonics Amen's sister, I absolutely agree with you

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Speaker 2: Is the Europeans secretly saying, thank goodness that this isn't

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Speaker 2: Oh so we're going to be protecting European nations too,

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's what's coming, right. That's the deal, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: And this is what it takes to make the deal,

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Speaker 2: because the first rule of trump Ism is Trump wins,

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Speaker 3: That a deal can always be made as long as

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Speaker 2: To own part of Greenland, or there's some other deal

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there might be a problem. You get it here.

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Speaker 3: This is Tony Cats. I spoke yesterday of a walkout

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Speaker 2: This is a story about how we're paying attention to

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Speaker 2: I've realized what an awful mistake this is, and what

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Speaker 2: What comes next is an email that libs of TikTok

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Speaker 2: This is to the Carmel High School staff. A potential

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Speaker 2: And here is the issue. Why is Carmel High School

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Speaker 3: I live here. This is my backyard, this is my home.

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Speaker 3: People move to Carmel, not Carmel, Not Caramel, Carmel. They

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Speaker 2: Sound of my voice who lives in Indiana and I

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Speaker 3: And a lot of those cities hate Carmel. They love

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Speaker 2: Carmel is a place that has five thousand plus students

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Speaker 3: Why because Carmel doesn't want to have two high schools.

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Speaker 3: It is surreal what the school does.

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Speaker 3: When did that happen? But the email continues and it continues.

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Speaker 3: The scheduled time is during a passing period. An attendance

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Speaker 3: If a student does.

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Speaker 3: We do not want to place you in a difficult situation.

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Speaker 2: We will have our administrative team throughout the building during

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Speaker 2: Resource officers and the City of Carmel. Thanks and it

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Speaker 2: out on their own and the school said, whatever you want,

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Speaker 2: just please don't hurt us.

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Speaker 3: We don't want to have a situation. I guess this

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Speaker 3: is what happens when you have a liberal school board

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Speaker 3: and we do, and there's groups out there you know,

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Speaker 3: so we support Carmel and all that.

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Speaker 2: They're leftist organizations that pretend to be nonpartisan, and they

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Speaker 2: get left as elected because, as I said, suburban white

447
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Speaker 2: women are terrible. Kids are in charge of the school,

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Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen. And this isn't just this place in Indiana.

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Speaker 2: This is happening all across the country. You just said

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Speaker 2: the students are in charge. Can I ask why we

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Speaker 2: have a superintendent, why do we have the principal, why

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Speaker 2: do we have the school board?

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Speaker 3: The answer is no.

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Speaker 2: You don't get to leave, sit down, you cause a disruption,

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Speaker 2: you get expelled. Tell your rich parents they can put

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Speaker 2: you in private school. You know, there's a very exclusive

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Speaker 2: private school called Park Tutor, quite literally.

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Speaker 3: Right down the road. People have heard of Park Tutor

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Speaker 3: all across the country. Bah Felicia. They gave up.

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Speaker 2: They gave up, they gave up being in charge, they

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Speaker 2: gave up leading the students. Now the high school is

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Speaker 2: like the college, because these kids go to college and

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Speaker 2: think they're in charge of the college. And the professors say,

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Speaker 2: please don't hurt us. We just want our tenure. We'll

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Speaker 2: teach you anything you want. Just let us keep making

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Speaker 2: the money. And every now and again, getting a little

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Speaker 2: you know what from a freshman who wants a better grade.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that doesn't happen. No, that's just okay, all right,

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Speaker 3: that doesn't happen. Allegedly, there we go. Have I satisfied

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Speaker 3: the lawyers? Great? This is obscene. This is obscene.

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Speaker 2: Three hundred students walked out of this high school, as

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Speaker 2: was reported by a local publication called you arecurrent dot com.

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Speaker 2: Three hundred out of five thousand, so less than ten percent.

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Speaker 2: Are you telling me that Carmel has no way to

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Speaker 2: deal with these students if they weren't allowed to walk

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Speaker 2: out and they caused a problem. We don't say we're

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Speaker 2: in charge. We're the best for a reason. We have

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Speaker 2: the best education for the reason. For a reason. They

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Speaker 2: just toubted that their graduation rate is over ninety nine percent.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you it's amazing. And they just said, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're giving it up to the kids school board failure.

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Speaker 2: And I know that they're listening.

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Speaker 3: You're really bad at this.

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Speaker 2: This is disgusting. Your job is to say no, you kid,

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Speaker 2: go and learn. You don't get to disrupt. You can

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Speaker 2: have a rally on your time, but this is school

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Speaker 2: and we've got rules here, and the superintendent should have said,

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Speaker 2: we absolutely don't allow this in this school district.

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Speaker 3: What are we all nuts?

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Speaker 2: You tell the student to sit down and pay attention

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Speaker 2: in class or expulsion. I like the principle, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: run into this man. You know this isn't somebody who

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Speaker 2: you just are throwing stones at because you're never gonna

494
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: see him again. And people on social media and influencers

495
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Speaker 2: can just say anything they want because there's no real

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Speaker 2: world ramification.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to run into this man.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna buy a coffee somewhere and he's gonna be

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Speaker 2: online behind me or in front of me.

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Speaker 3: And it's gonna be like, oh hey.

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Speaker 2: Principal Ferris, Hello, cats Seinfeld. Newman will probably be reversed,

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Speaker 2: and this conversation is gonna come up. But am I

503
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Speaker 2: supposed to not talk about a subject because it's my backyard.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely not. We are are not going to seede the

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Speaker 2: education landscape to the student in high school.

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Speaker 3: And if this is the.

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Speaker 2: Case, start sending your kid to private school, start home schooling,

508
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Speaker 2: break the school in two and they could take that

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Speaker 2: beautiful high school in Carmel, Indiana, and they could turn

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Speaker 2: it into condos for all I care because it's not

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Speaker 2: providing a value.

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Speaker 3: This letter, I believe is real. If this is real,

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Speaker 3: this is obscene. If kids were allowed to sign themselves out,

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Speaker 3: who's running the asylum. It's time for new leadership.

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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz today testifying

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Speaker 2: that Biden did.

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Speaker 3: Not brushon him to go after Trump.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't buy it.

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Speaker 2: But of course, as these things go, you get the

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Speaker 2: typical nonsense. In this case, you get it from everybody's

522
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Speaker 2: favorite typical nonsense merchant, Hank Johnson, the congressman who once

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Speaker 2: said he worried about too many troops on the island

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Speaker 2: of Guam because it might capsize with this doozy.

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Speaker 8: On January sixth, twenty twenty six, to fifth anniversary of

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Speaker 8: the insurrection, the White House launched the taxpayer funded website

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Speaker 8: that attempts to rewrite history about what happened on that

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Speaker 8: day of infamy. On January sixth, twenty twenty one, there

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Speaker 8: was an insurrection at the United States Capital that resulted

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Speaker 8: in a police officer dying the next day.

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Speaker 3: No, No, it did not. That is a lie. You're

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Speaker 3: talking about officer Sicnic he.

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Speaker 2: Did not die because of January sixth. That is not

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Speaker 2: what happened. We know this from a series of reports.

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Speaker 2: This is a lie being told by the Democrat Hank Johnson.

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Speaker 2: Now I want to make sure I hear what's next.

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Speaker 8: Another four officers dying by suicide in the months thereafter,

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Speaker 8: with at least one hundred and forty police officers being injured.

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Speaker 2: And not a single Republican demands that his words be

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Speaker 2: taken down. I don't know if that could be done

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Speaker 2: in a committee as opposed to just on the floor,

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Speaker 2: no Republican scream stop lying, you disgusting, low life, dummy liar,

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Speaker 2: Stop lying, you fool, Stop lying, sir, stop lying. Well,

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Speaker 2: don't say please, don't beg to these people. You want

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Speaker 2: to have a conversation, have a conversation. If you want.

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Speaker 3: To disagree with something, disagree on its merits, you call

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Speaker 3: it an insurrection.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we all get what you're doing. It was a riot,

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Speaker 2: not an insurrection. Neither here nor there. For the rest

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Speaker 2: of the part of my conversation. You want to claim

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Speaker 2: people are killed because of January sixth, Actually Babbitt was killed,

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Speaker 2: and that's that. It was a lie. Where were the

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Speaker 2: Republicans to say it was a lie? Do I have

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Speaker 2: to keep playing it?

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Speaker 8: By the insurrectiousness with fifteen of them requiring hospitalization, and

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Speaker 8: I'm proud that we have four former officers as well

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Speaker 8: as on duty.

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Speaker 3: No, they said nothing.

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Speaker 2: No one died because of January six except for Ashley Babbitt.

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Speaker 3: No officer died because of January sixth. It's a lie

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Speaker 3: told by Congressman Hank Johnson.

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Speaker 2: Where's anybody in that house to say, how dare you?

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Speaker 3: Tony kat said?

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Speaker 1: Lie from vall Hartband and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 3: It's Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 9: Star witness January sixth Committee, their star witness in one

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Speaker 9: of those staged and choreographed hearings they paid the former

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Speaker 9: president of ABC News to put together. She was fact

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Speaker 9: the only witness at this special prime time hearing Tuesday,

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Speaker 9: June twenty eighth, twenty twenty two, eight o'clock in the evening,

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Speaker 9: and she told some stories.

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Speaker 6: I mean, these were these were some stories she.

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Speaker 9: Talked about President lunched across the back seat, grabbed the

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Speaker 9: steering wheel, tried to drive the car to the Capitol.

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Speaker 5: And I just want to know you think she was lying?

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Speaker 5: Chermany Jordan.

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Speaker 7: My assessment of that particular issue is that, with respect

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Speaker 7: to the testimony by someone of the president lunging towards

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Speaker 7: the driver, recollection of her testimony about that is that

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Speaker 7: it was secondhand. She said she'd heard that from.

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Speaker 9: Somebody who you familiar with the name Tony Ornado. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 9: is you familiar with the name Tony Ornado?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 9: White House Deputy Chief of Operations Depaney, chief of staff

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Speaker 9: for Operations.

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Speaker 3: Right, you remember you remember what.

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Speaker 6: He said about it? As I said here right now,

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Speaker 6: I do not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he said it didn't happen.

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Speaker 2: That is Congressman Jim Jordan grilling Jack Smith, the special

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Speaker 2: counsel who was looking into Donald Trump, who was looking

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Speaker 2: to find a way to keep him from running for

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Speaker 2: president and winning and being the forty seventh president of

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Speaker 2: the United States.

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Speaker 3: Oh, Kamalo was so upset.

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Good to be here, Good

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Speaker 2: to be with you. Cigar in hand, Ready to go

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Speaker 2: streaming on YouTube. Join the chat YouTube dot com Tony

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Speaker 2: Katz subscribe.

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Speaker 3: I'd greatly appreciate it. Well. The term witch hunts, I think,

601
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Speaker 3: is a term of oftentimes cheapness. It is obvious to

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Speaker 3: anyone that the lawfair that was put in place to

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Speaker 3: keep Donald Trump from running for president, never mind winning

604
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Speaker 3: the presidency, was massive, It was a mountain to climb,

605
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Speaker 3: It was purposeful in its duplicitousness, and that it failed

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Speaker 3: is a testament to the fact that Trump will walk

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Speaker 3: through anything, and it's why many people vote for him.

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Speaker 3: But in this.

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Speaker 2: Discussion with Jack Smith testifying in front of the House

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Speaker 2: Judiciary Committee, Jim Jordan is the chairman of that committee.

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Speaker 3: The conversation is about Cassidy Hutchinson.

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Speaker 2: Cassidy Hutchinson was an assistant to Chief of Staff Marc

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Speaker 2: Medows during the first Trump administration, and in this testimony

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two, she said about Trump that his

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Speaker 2: conduct was out of control, and yes, that he tried

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Speaker 2: to grab the steering wheel and forced a driver to

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Speaker 2: to head to the Capitol so he can be part

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Speaker 2: of the protest. Now, I don't know about you. I

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Speaker 2: have never ridden in the beast before. That's the president's limo,

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Speaker 2: but I've seen it. How does the president reach over

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Speaker 2: to the driver? How does that any How does any

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Speaker 2: of that work? Never mind? Never mind? I don't claim

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Speaker 2: to be an expert on armored limousines. I am, However,

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Speaker 2: someone who is pretty adept at saying as a representative.

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Speaker 2: Jordan explained so well, this made for TV events where

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Speaker 2: they hired a television showrunner to produce these time hearings

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Speaker 2: about January sixth, so they could set a narrative without

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Speaker 2: any rebuttal regarding what happened, so they never have to

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Speaker 2: engage the culpability of someone like Nancy Pelosi. And where

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Speaker 2: was the National Guard that turning down of help from

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Speaker 2: President Trump before this happened. Now, remember we should be clear,

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Speaker 2: I don't leave Trump totally out.

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Speaker 3: On this subject. I put forth to you that it

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Speaker 3: absolutely was not an insurrection. It was not.

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Speaker 2: But when the vice president of the United States is

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Speaker 2: in trouble, you should have sent everybody at your disposal

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Speaker 2: to go get him. There was nothing acceptable about leaving

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Speaker 2: him there. It was unknown what the situation was at

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Speaker 2: the time. And I said then and I still say

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Speaker 2: it now, he should have sent everybody to go get

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Speaker 2: him one thousand percent. But what happened next in terms

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Speaker 2: of the January sixth committee of these so called hearings,

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Speaker 2: this was made for TV nonsense, This was provda, This

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Speaker 2: was gross.

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Speaker 3: And now after all those prosecutions.

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Speaker 2: Failed, whether that be by their own implosion like Fawnie

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Speaker 2: Willis in Georgia, or by Supreme Court making decisions and

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Speaker 2: therefore saying well, I can't move any more forward.

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Speaker 3: Here we now have.

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Speaker 2: Jack Smith in front of the committee and Jim Jordan,

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Speaker 2: I think, really waiting for this moment.

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Speaker 5: How about Bobby Ingle?

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Speaker 6: Are you familiar with that name?

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Speaker 9: Yes, I am Secret Service agent who.

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Speaker 3: Was actually in the car that day.

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Speaker 5: You know what he said?

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Speaker 9: He said, it didn't happen, And they both said the

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Speaker 9: first time they ever heard this story was when miss

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Speaker 9: Hutchinson testified in the primetime hearing as their star witness

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Speaker 9: of the January sixth committee. By the way, do you

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Speaker 9: ever confirm her testimony about this particular incident?

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Speaker 7: We conducted, as I said before, our own independent investigation

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Speaker 7: of all aspects of the case that we thought was relevant.

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Speaker 7: We attorneys from my office.

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Speaker 5: Did you ever confirm it? That's a simple question.

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Speaker 7: Well, we interviewed her, I should say, attorneys in my office.

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Speaker 9: But did you ever confirm the president leaping across the seat,

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Speaker 9: grabbing the steering wheel, this whole concoction she brought up

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Speaker 9: in the January sixth hearing, do you ever confirm that.

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Speaker 7: We interviewed another firsthand witness who was in the car

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Speaker 7: who did not confirm that could happen.

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Speaker 9: But also your deposition to the committee last month, mister Smith,

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Speaker 9: you said this my recollection with miss Hutchinson was a

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Speaker 9: number of the things that she gave evidence on were

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Speaker 9: secondhand hearsay. Your remembers making that statement to us last

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Speaker 9: month in the deposition.

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Speaker 7: I did, and I was referring particularly to what we're

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Speaker 7: talking about now.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, And you also said miss Hutchinson, regarding this particular claim,

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Speaker 9: was a second or even third hand witness. We ask you,

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Speaker 9: if you were a defense attorney, how would you handle

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Speaker 9: cross examining her if she was on the witness stand?

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Speaker 9: And you said, if I were a defense attorney, miss

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Speaker 9: Hutchinson were a witness, the first thing I would do

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Speaker 9: was seek to preclude her testimony because it was here

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Speaker 9: say you remember saying all that.

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Speaker 6: Yes, that's correct, So that's correct.

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 9: Were you going to put her on the witness stand

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Speaker 9: if you ever got to trial.

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Speaker 7: We had not made final determinations as to who we

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Speaker 7: were going to call as a witness. We had a

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Speaker 7: large still considering her. We had a large choice of

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Speaker 7: witnesses in this.

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Speaker 9: Are you familiar what Washington Post reporters Carol Lenning and

696
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Speaker 9: Aaron Davis said in their book? They did his book

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Speaker 9: three hundreds on pages, book on chronicle and the whole

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Speaker 9: investigation of the Justice Department, And here's what they said.

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Speaker 9: On page three ten, they said Jack Smith had wondered

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Speaker 9: whether some of Hutchinson's claims might be relied upon a trial. Still,

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Speaker 9: at one point, Smith told the elections team he wasn't

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Speaker 9: ready to.

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Speaker 3: Give up on Hutchinson's account.

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Speaker 9: Ultimately, however, Trump administration officials uniformly fiercely disputed her accounts

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Speaker 9: under oath. Prosecutors on your team told Smith they wouldn't

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Speaker 9: want to use Hutchinson as a witnessing court, and Smith agreed.

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Speaker 9: Are Caro Lenning and Aaron Davis who wrote this or

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Speaker 9: they Lion.

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Speaker 3: I don't even want to hear the rest.

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Speaker 2: The grilling was brutal and rightfully, so there is no

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Speaker 2: question to me, although you can say there's a question

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Speaker 2: to you that Jack Smith went in with a goal.

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Speaker 2: How do I get Trump? It was Labnery Buria, show

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Speaker 2: me the man, and I'll show you the crime. This

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Speaker 2: was his modus operendi, and this was the modus operendi.

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Speaker 3: I believe the Democratic.

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Speaker 2: Party he wants to say, and he has said that

718
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Speaker 2: the Biden team did not pressure him.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe he had to be pressured. I believe

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Speaker 3: he wanted to do it.

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Speaker 2: This brings us to the questioning from Congressman Daryl Isa

722
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Speaker 2: of California.

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Speaker 5: Just hold that information from an Article three.

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Speaker 10: Judge, in the process of taking the records of the Speaker.

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Speaker 7: Of the House, we complied with the did you hold

726
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Speaker 7: mister Sherman?

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Speaker 3: Would you please instruct.

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Speaker 6: The gentleman to allow the witness to answer the question.

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Speaker 5: It's not your time.

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Speaker 3: I'd like my time, mister Sherman. You have repeatedly done

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Speaker 3: that in the past. The witness has.

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Speaker 10: The right to answer the questions, and there'll be due

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Speaker 10: time to answer the question. Would you please put my

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Speaker 10: time back and let me finish this. Mister Smith, I

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Speaker 10: asked you a question and you were not responsive to it,

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Speaker 10: and I want you to be responsive to it. Did

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Speaker 10: you whether you think it was legal or not, whether

738
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Speaker 10: you think it was right or not, did you withhold

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Speaker 10: the name of Kevin McCarthy Speaker of the House when

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Speaker 10: you were seeking records on Kevin McCarthy, the Speaker of

741
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Speaker 10: the House, or Jim Jordan, the chairman of this committee.

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Speaker 5: At the time.

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Speaker 3: The gentleman is please get time, take it away. Time

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Speaker 3: is expired.

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Speaker 9: But we're going to let the witness answer your question

746
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Speaker 9: because it's important question.

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Speaker 3: The wins can respond.

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Speaker 7: We did not provide that information to the judge when

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Speaker 7: we requested a non disclosure order, consistent with the law

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Speaker 7: and consistent with the farm.

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Speaker 5: Mister Chairman.

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Speaker 10: The amazing thing here today is that we have an

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Speaker 10: admission that an.

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Speaker 11: Art of chairman, that the gentleman's time is expired by

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Speaker 11: now thirty four seconds.

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Speaker 3: Democrats know they're caught in this.

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Speaker 2: You went looking and fishing for information without saying who

758
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Speaker 2: it was you were looking for the information on it

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Speaker 2: was and.

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Speaker 3: I hate the term a witch hunt.

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Speaker 2: It is clear, and it is obvious, and it is

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Speaker 2: without question. And that brings us to Brandon Gill. That

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Speaker 2: brings us to Brandon Gill right here.

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Speaker 3: Now. If you don't know Brandon Gill.

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Speaker 2: He has been a very very unique force of nature

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Speaker 2: in the House.

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Speaker 3: It's been something else.

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Speaker 2: He has been non stop in his questioning and his

769
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Speaker 2: ability to ask the questions, to stay on focus, to

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Speaker 2: stay on target, cool calm collected, and there was this right.

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Speaker 5: Here, Yes sir, we didn't, Yes you did.

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Speaker 12: And the subpoena covered the time period between November twenty

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Speaker 12: twenty and January twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 5: Is that right?

775
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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, sir, Could you say that again?

776
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Speaker 5: We're not going to delay like this.

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Speaker 12: The subpoena covered the time period between November twenty twenty

778
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Speaker 12: and January twenty one. How many days after Kevin McCarthy

779
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Speaker 12: was sworn in his speaker did useipoena his records?

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Speaker 6: I don't recall, but those two things had nothing.

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Speaker 12: It was sixteen days after becoming the highest ranking Republican

782
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Speaker 12: in the House of Representatives, usupoened his toll records. Do

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Speaker 12: you agree that that might reasonably be considered a violation

784
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Speaker 12: of the speech of debate clause?

785
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Speaker 6: I do not, And I want to be clear that

786
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Speaker 6: the tell.

787
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 12: We were collecting months worth of phone data on the

788
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Speaker 12: Republican Speaker of the House, the leader of the opposition,

789
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 12: right after he got sworn in his speaker, all around

790
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Speaker 12: the time of a major vote. That sounds like a

791
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 12: flagrant violation of the speecher debate clause to me, and

792
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Speaker 12: I think most people agree with me. And Speaker McCarthy

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00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 12: had no recourse, did he, because you issued a non

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00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 12: disclosure order ensuring that neither he nor any of the

795
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 12: American people knew about the U sipenas?

796
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Speaker 5: Is that right?

797
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 7: The toll record, the non content toll records subpoena is

798
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Speaker 7: we did secure non disclosure orders for those subpoenas.

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Speaker 9: You did.

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Speaker 12: And let me ask you, mister Smith, at the time

801
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Speaker 12: you secured those non disclosure orders.

802
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 5: Was Speaker McCarthy a flight risk?

803
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 7: The non disclosure order was based on concerns about it.

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Speaker 5: Was Speaker McCarthy a flight risks?

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Speaker 6: He was not?

806
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 9: He was not?

807
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Speaker 12: Then why did your non disclosure order refer to him

808
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Speaker 12: as a flight risk? It says right here the court

809
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 12: finds reasonable grounds to believe that such disclosure will result

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Speaker 12: in flight from prosecution.

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Speaker 2: Now, before we go any further, first of all, Brandon

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Speaker 2: Gill's very good.

813
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 3: The speech or Debate.

814
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Speaker 2: Clause Article one, section six clause IE, the Senators and

815
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Speaker 2: representatives shall receive a compensation for their services to be

816
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 2: ascertained by law and paid out of the Treasury of

817
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Speaker 2: the United States. They shall, in all cases except trees

818
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 2: and felony and breach of the peace, be privileged from

819
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Speaker 2: arrest during their attendance at the session of their respective houses,

820
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Speaker 2: and in going to and returning from the same, and

821
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Speaker 2: for any speech debate in either house. They shall not

822
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Speaker 2: be questioned in any other place. So the argument is,

823
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Speaker 2: if the Speaker of the House was engaged in any conversation,

824
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Speaker 2: they cannot be prosecuted for that conversation. But the Special

825
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Speaker 2: Counsel Jack Smith decided to go after.

826
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Speaker 3: Phone records and other records without.

827
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Speaker 2: Informing anybody of whose records he was going after, claiming

828
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Speaker 2: them to be a flight risk, as Representative Gill does explain,

829
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Speaker 2: to then utilize their words that are protected by the

830
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Speaker 2: Constitution against them for his purposes.

831
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Speaker 3: We could say it in another way manipulated, sir.

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Speaker 7: When securing a non disclosure order, the risks don't have

833
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Speaker 7: to be associated.

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Speaker 12: The Speaker of the House. Is this question, this is

835
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Speaker 12: not your time, this is my time. You think the

836
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Speaker 12: Speaker of the House is a flight risk, You think

837
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Speaker 12: he's going to hop on a plane and leave the country.

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Speaker 7: No, what I was trying to explain is with respect

839
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Speaker 7: to a non disclosure order. The risks aren't necessarily associated

840
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Speaker 7: with this subscriber to the phone risks to mitigation.

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Speaker 12: I think that you were using this is clearly in

842
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 12: reference to Speaker McCarthy, and you were using clearly false

843
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 12: information to se hear a non disclosure order to hide

844
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 12: from Speaker McCarthy and from the American people the fact

845
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Speaker 12: that you were spying on his toll records.

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Speaker 5: But I've got more more, So let's move on.

847
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 3: Never forget that when they have power, there is nothing

848
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Speaker 3: they won't do.

849
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,919
Speaker 2: And did you hear all the Democrats interrupting Republicans don't

850
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 2: do that.

851
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 3: I believe that Republicans have to start, so they'll stop.

852
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 3: But I may not get my way on. That is

853
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 3: Jack Smiths as you thought he was, Oh lower, keep

854
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 3: it here. This is Tony Kats today. So there's I

855
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 3: have a third arrest that's been.

856
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 2: Made in this church terrorism in Saint Paul. And if

857
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Speaker 2: you tell me I can't call it terrorism. They called

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Speaker 2: January sixth an insurrection. I'll say what I will Tony Katz,

859
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 2: Tony Kats today, good to be with you.

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Speaker 3: They arrested the guy William Kelly.

861
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 2: William Kelly was the guy screaming at people and wearing

862
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Speaker 2: the blank Trump hat and was doing his grizzly Adams impression.

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Speaker 2: And then there's talk that Lemon is not going to

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Speaker 2: get arrested. I don't know if that is true. I

865
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Speaker 2: do not know, as I know what's getting reported. I

866
00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 2: simply do not know if that is indeed fact. If

867
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Speaker 2: the judge in question is the one who makes the

868
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Speaker 2: decision blanket, meaning that if this judge over here, some

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Speaker 2: magistrate judge says no.

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Speaker 3: Can another judge say, excuse me, go right ahead.

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Speaker 2: I don't have enough data to answer that to be

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Speaker 2: able to say with certitude. So I'm gonna hold off

873
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 2: on the Lemon stuff. I'm going to say that this

874
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 2: is good. It was Pam Bondi earlier today the Attorney

875
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Speaker 2: General announcing arrests in the church case Saint Paul, Minnesota,

876
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 2: where the so called antis protesters really these anti American,

877
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Speaker 2: anti Christian zealots, as I see it, enter the church,

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00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 2: disrupted church services. We're trying to intimidate parishioners, were screaming

879
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 2: at parishioners. A and a woman by the name of

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00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 2: Nikima Levy Armstrong, who was an organizer was arrested. A

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Speaker 2: woman by the name of Chantel Allen was arrested, arrested.

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00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 2: She's also part of the Saint Board, Saint Paul School Board.

883
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Speaker 2: You can imagine what's going on there. These people were

884
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 2: arrested and now we have a third arrest of this

885
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 2: of this guy Kelly, who was screaming and yelling at people, and.

886
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 3: You know the he was the guy who said, you know,

887
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 3: if you want to if you want to arrest me,

888
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 3: arrest me. If you want to kill me, kill me.

889
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 2: But you can kill the man, but you can't kill

890
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 2: you kill the revolutionary, but you.

891
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 3: Can't kill the revolution I mean, when they tell you

892
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 3: who they are, believe them. As a matter of fact.

893
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 2: This guy made a video and he's like, if you

894
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 2: want to arrest me, arrest me. And Pam Bondi repas

895
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 2: to the video and all she wrote was, Okay.

896
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:09,240
Speaker 3: Great, we're really really good at Twitter. I'm actually impressed

897
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 3: that we're arrest I got a I'm amazed from Pambonda.

898
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 3: I expected nothing to Now will these people be convicted

899
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 3: that I don't know, but at least this part is happening.

900
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 3: This is Tony Katz today. Three more things stories.

901
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 2: That aren't getting reported in large measure, but it should be.

902
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony kats today, Good to be here, good

903
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 2: to be with you find everything I do over at

904
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,439
Speaker 2: Tony Katz dot com. And I had some people ask, Hey,

905
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 2: this weather that's coming, how does this affect your event?

906
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 2: Trump One year later, the red Tie Gala, I've got

907
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 2: people still asking for tickets. It's been quick, just a

908
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 2: real quick synopsis. I've been wanting to do this. I

909
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,760
Speaker 2: was gonna do a recap of the year and then

910
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,040
Speaker 2: how it it, you know, plays into the midterms. And

911
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 2: I still argue that the midterms are winnable. The numbers

912
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 2: are rough, rough, rough, roup, but I believe it's winnable.

913
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 2: It just takes not only preparation, it takes sticking to.

914
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 3: The topic right, staying on task, not getting distracted.

915
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 2: So I've got this big event the Highatt Regency downtown

916
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 2: Indianapolis Saturday night, and we're doing it red tie.

917
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 3: And some people are like, wait, is that a tucks

918
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 3: or a gown? I'm like, yep, what about cocktail tire? Yep?

919
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 3: How about just pants?

920
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 2: Absolutely people are getting dressed up and some people are like,

921
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 2: I was try I want to get dressed up, and

922
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 2: I was selling tickets through Christmas, and like Tony, I

923
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 2: can't focus on tickets. I got to get the kids

924
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 2: gifts and everything else. So I learned a lot about

925
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 2: timing on this event. But over the last two weeks, whoop.

926
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 2: Here we go to the races, it's been We're gonna

927
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 2: have a fantastic night, and then the.

928
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 3: Storm's coming through. It's like, are you kidding?

929
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 2: And you're everybody's talking about these storms, the snow, the

930
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 2: bitter cold, the ice. They're expecting massive ice in Tennessee.

931
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 2: You've got preparations taking place in Virginia. You've got the

932
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 2: Northeast in a full on panic. And isn't that always

933
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 2: the way? If we in the Midwest get a storm,

934
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 2: no one pays attention. They're like, oh, by the way,

935
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 2: it's snowed over there in that place to fly over

936
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 2: to get to California.

937
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 3: They don't care. But they get half an inch of

938
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 3: snow and it's a it's a front page story.

939
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 2: And then the Today Show is gonna have Al Roker

940
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 2: in some kind of winter coat talking about polar vortexas

941
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 2: and the whole thing comes a story.

942
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 3: It's ridiculous.

943
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 2: The weather reports have been changing and changing constantly, and

944
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 2: right now where I live, where this event is happening,

945
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 2: we're kind of okay, we're gonna see a little bit

946
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 2: of snow and then the cold, but it's very possible

947
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 2: this whole thing's gonna shift up, shift northward, and then

948
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 2: I have to ask a question, what do you do?

949
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 3: What do you do at that moment? Me on? The

950
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 3: show must go on? Guy.

951
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 2: Reality is, I don't want to put anybody at risk

952
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 2: coming to an event. It's crazy. It's not about me,

953
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 2: it's about it's about you. So I'm watching. I am

954
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 2: watching this weather because it might change what's happening. So

955
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 2: if you've got tickets, hold on because it's not canceled,

956
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 2: Mike have postponed. We don't know yet right now everything

957
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 2: is on everything, so that could change in an hour.

958
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 2: Right now, All good, but yeah, people are focused on

959
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 2: this storm because in places, admittedly it's going.

960
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 3: To be really bad and people are going.

961
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 2: To be in a lot, a lot, a lot of hurt,

962
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 2: especially when you see ice on the roads and you're

963
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 2: talking about inches of ice and the snow totals that

964
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 2: they're looking at and the bitter cold.

965
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 3: Check on a neighbor.

966
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 2: Honestly, check on a neighbor, and would you drip your

967
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 2: fossis please, As a guy who has had pipes first

968
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 2: in the house, came back from vacation to a family

969
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 2: room that was no longer a family room, just flooded,

970
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 2: ripped apart, walked into water pouring.

971
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 3: Out of the ceiling. It was brutal.

972
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 2: And the collection of books that my wife had, three

973
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 2: hundred and some odd books in the bookshelves, some first

974
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 2: edition stuff, stuff given to her by her late father, destroyed.

975
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 2: She went through with with the kids, went through every

976
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 2: book and made a list because I had to do

977
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 2: it for insurance purposes. I have actually never seen her

978
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 2: that devastated. Just this connection to her, to her childhood,

979
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 2: this connection to her father, this connection to these moments

980
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 2: in times where she picked these things up.

981
00:59:50,920 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 3: Just just the horrible, just horrible to watch, you know.

982
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 2: And it sounds like such a little thing. Hey, hey,

983
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 2: you were able to rebuild.

984
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 3: No one died. It's true, you know, you win that battle.

985
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 3: But these things that connect you to how you grew

986
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 3: up and how you came to be in these moments

987
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 3: with family and stuff, this is not small stuff. It

988
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 3: was crazy and I don't want that for anybody else,

989
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 3: So drip your faucets. Then there is the possible the

990
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 3: trees are going to explode. Producer Landon was discussing this earlier.

991
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,919
Speaker 3: If I understand it right, the.

992
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 2: Tree doesn't actually like explode like it's tenerite or something

993
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 2: like that.

994
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 3: Doesn't go boom.

995
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 2: It pops because well, the water inside the tree, the

996
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 2: ice expands and it bursts. So as I understand it,

997
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 2: the tree doesn't actually explode.

998
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 3: It's just the.

999
01:00:56,240 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 2: Popping you hear from the trees. And yes, that's a

1000
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 2: good point. P It's not only ice on the roads,

1001
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 2: it's ice on the power lines. That's where things get rough.

1002
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 2: Ice on the trees and then that stuff falls and

1003
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 2: the that's what we're looking out for. And that is

1004
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 2: true from Oklahoma, right, So our friends aren't care.

1005
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 3: MG, we're looking out for you.

1006
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 2: We're hoping all works out because we're hearing about the

1007
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 2: cold now and I want to know how you guys

1008
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 2: are experiencing.

1009
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 3: All the way through to the Virginias and then up

1010
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 3: into New York and then it's gonna push its way out.

1011
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 3: Getting more and more.

1012
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 2: Information on that storm, there's also a blood shortage. According

1013
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 2: to the Red Cross, the national blood supply fell about

1014
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:50,919
Speaker 2: thirty five percent. So you've got flu activity keeping people

1015
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 2: from giving blood, winter weather keeping people from giving blood,

1016
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 2: holiday season keeping people from giving blood, and blood is

1017
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 2: blood drives are down. The blood supply has fallen. We

1018
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 2: need the blood, so saying to producer Land, and that's

1019
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 2: actually something we could coordinate. So maybe we'll get into

1020
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 2: that in the month of February. I don't I'm not

1021
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 2: gonna be able to do it that quick. Maybe we

1022
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 2: start doing some blood drives. So if you are somebody

1023
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 2: who gives, maybe before the storm comes, if you have

1024
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 2: the chance, gives them blood and bring.

1025
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 3: Yourself a snack.

1026
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 2: Then there is Mackwood Khalil who's going to be deported

1027
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 2: to Algeria.

1028
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 3: Thank you, Producer Lucia Land, and I appreciate that. Oh

1029
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,959
Speaker 3: the cheering that is going on right there.

1030
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 2: Mackmood Khalil is this guy from well Syrian born.

1031
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 3: He was at.

1032
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 2: Columbia leading the charge to intimidate Jewish students, prevented walking

1033
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 2: across campus and taking over buildings and all the rest.

1034
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 3: And he gets arrested.

1035
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 2: He's going to be deported and then a judge says,

1036
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 2: you can't support him, and then he gets out and

1037
01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 2: he's with the Costio Cortes and he's like, I'm not

1038
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 2: a pray to view Donald Trump. And then a three

1039
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 2: judge panel from the Third Circuit said, who is this

1040
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 2: judge to say that you can't have him in custody.

1041
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 3: He's got to go through the whole process.

1042
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 2: He has no standing to challenge anything until he's gone

1043
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:16,919
Speaker 2: through the process. And now we're hearing that he will

1044
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 2: be deported to Algeria. That's what's next.

1045
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 3: Now.

1046
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 2: According to trist mc laughlin, who is the Assistant Secretary

1047
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 2: for Public Affairs at DHS Apartment Homeland Security, is a

1048
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 2: reminder for those who are in this country on a

1049
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 2: visa a green card.

1050
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 3: You are a guest in this country. Act like it. It

1051
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 3: is a privilege, not a right, to be in this

1052
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 3: country to live or to study. Does anybody have a

1053
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 3: problem with that? Say I have a problem with that.

1054
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean that you could be attacked or assaulted

1055
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 2: and not have recourse. It's that when you act to intimidate,

1056
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 2: threaten students or citizens. Students are citizens. We simply don't

1057
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 2: allow that. When you show clear support for a terrorist organization,

1058
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 2: which hamas is.

1059
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 3: You don't get to stay. You gotta go.

1060
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 2: You just gotta leave, you gotta be gone. That's all

1061
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 2: there is to it. I'm glad to see this movement

1062
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 2: take place. I think it's important that we set up

1063
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 2: rules and that the rules be followed. I think that

1064
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 2: there are citizens out there who grossly support terrorist organizations.

1065
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 2: It's awful. Support of AMAS is disgusting. They're citizens. They

1066
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 2: have the right to be disgusting.

1067
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 3: When we talk about someone who is not a citizen.

1068
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 3: We don't have to keep you in the country. We

1069
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 3: owe you zero.

1070
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 2: In that regard you owe us, and if you're gonna

1071
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:15,439
Speaker 2: be supporting terrorists, we should remove you. This brings us

1072
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 2: to Chris Cuomo, who sadly we cannot support. Now, I

1073
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 2: am not sure I can play this. I'm not sure

1074
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 2: I can play this because it's Chris Cuomo, and Chris

1075
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 2: Cuomo is the kind.

1076
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 3: Of guy who curses a lot, I mean a whole bunch.

1077
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 3: But Chris Cuomo.

1078
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 2: Is over there at News Nation and he's angry with

1079
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 2: Scott Jennings. Now you know Chris Cuomo from his days

1080
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 2: at CNN and his the days at CNN, he was

1081
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:55,919
Speaker 2: the one who braved COVID, and he spent time in

1082
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 2: the family basement and he walked out of the basement

1083
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 2: on camera looked at me past COVID.

1084
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 3: I'm so brave. It was also very weird.

1085
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 2: He was the guy who was supportive of his brother,

1086
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 2: the governor, Andrew Cuomo, who sent Grandma to die, who

1087
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 2: would send these people back to nursing homes.

1088
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 3: He sent them to die. And while the left.

1089
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 2: Tried to make it as Andrew Culoma was really leading

1090
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 2: the smart fight on COVID, that was not true, not

1091
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 2: at all or.

1092
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 3: In any way. It was Chris Cuomo.

1093
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 2: Who was on was it not a video, but on

1094
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 2: audio saying, Hey, these women who are accusing you of this,

1095
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 2: that and the other, give me their names. I'll see

1096
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 2: what I can do. That's Chris Cuomo. Chris Cuomo finger

1097
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 2: on the dump button there poditionial landing. Chris Croomo was

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Speaker 2: saying this about Scott Jennings.

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Speaker 8: You see this clip of Scott Jennings saying, how are

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Speaker 8: you going to enforce it?

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Speaker 5: How are you going to enforce me?

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Speaker 6: Not saying the word I legals anymore?

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Speaker 3: How are you going to do that? Say illegals?

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Speaker 11: Anymore, because ICE is directly targeting legal citizens of this country.

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Speaker 3: And why are you going to enforce your eat it

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Speaker 3: on me? Just out of curiosity? I understand. I just

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Speaker 3: listen to his point about ellegal?

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Speaker 6: What are you bully?

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01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 5: Now? What are you a tough guy?

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Speaker 6: Because you're talking to this kid?

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Speaker 2: That kid is twenty five years old, if I understand

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Speaker 2: it correctly, And that kid not only decided to tell

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Speaker 2: Scott Jennings he can't say certain things, that kid accused

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump of being part of a sex trafficking ring

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01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 2: and had to come out and recant his statement because

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Speaker 2: he knew it was going to end up in a lawsuit.

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Speaker 2: But here's Chris Cuomo going after Scott Jennings for being

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Speaker 2: a tough guy. Cameron CASKI is this kid's name? And

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Speaker 2: on CNN said you can't use the word illegal anymore.

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Speaker 2: And Scott Jennings asked the right question to the leftist, how.

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Speaker 3: Are you going to enforce your eat it?

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01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 2: These people think that they can bully and tell us

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Speaker 2: what we can and can't say. And now here comes

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Speaker 2: Chris Cuomo to do what go after Scott Jennings are

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Speaker 2: being right?

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Speaker 3: What kind of tough guy? Thing is this from Chris Cuomo.

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Speaker 3: Chris Cuomo was a guy trying to silence women for

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Speaker 3: his brother.

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Speaker 2: No, that didn't happen. That's all just something that got

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Speaker 2: said and never was actual, never was factual. What did

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01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 2: Scott Jennings say so wrong? The answer is nothing. What

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01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 2: is this tough guy routine from you?

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Speaker 3: Chris? It's also nothing. You're not tough. Just so we're clear,

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01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:43,719
Speaker 3: no one thinks you're tough. No one believes you're tough.

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Speaker 2: And if you think it's okay for someone to say

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01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 2: you're not allowed to say that.

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Speaker 3: Would you would you take that as a television host?

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Speaker 3: Of course not.

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Speaker 2: And he's not a kid. He's twenty five. How old

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Speaker 2: is Cameron Caskey? He goes on TV, he wants to engage.

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01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 2: He's a twenty five year old and he ran up

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01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 2: against a buzz saw name Scott Jennings, who properly put

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01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 2: him in his place for being ridiculous. You're mad at

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01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 2: Scott for that, Chris, Chris, the only guy playing tough

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01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 2: guys you And for the record, nobody thinks you're tough.

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01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:29,719
Speaker 2: You are so lucky to have that job. I can't

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Speaker 2: believe they gave it to you. I'm Tony Katz. This

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Speaker 2: is Tony Kats today. The shooting and uvalldin twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: two put that on the record as one of the

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Speaker 2: most horrifying.

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Speaker 3: Things that many of us have ever witnessed. That story

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Speaker 3: twenty nine was it? Twenty nine children killed in that

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Speaker 3: shooting just.

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Speaker 2: Outside of El pac So, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today,

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Speaker 2: good to be with you. And what made that story

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Speaker 2: so horrifying was that the officer involved, the Uvalde School

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Speaker 2: police officer Adrian Gonzales, didn't enter the school, didn't go

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Speaker 2: in to protect those kids. He was charged with twenty

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01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 2: nine counts a child abandonment or endangerment. There was a trial,

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Speaker 2: the jury deliberated for seven hours and found him not guilty.

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Speaker 2: I had not thought about the.

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Speaker 3: Case in a while. I can't say that it was

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Speaker 3: top my mind or that I really was fully aware

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01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:52,839
Speaker 3: that the trial was going on. When I see that result,

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01:10:52,960 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 3: I must tell you that was a kick If.

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Speaker 2: If you can be a school police officer and you're

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01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 2: not there to put yourself in the line of fire

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Speaker 2: to protect.

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Speaker 3: Children, what are we doing? We saw this at Parkland.

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Speaker 3: Marjorie Stoven Douglas. We see it here.

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Speaker 2: I say, let's arm the teachers, those who want to

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Speaker 2: be armed. Let's arm the parents, get them the training

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01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:31,719
Speaker 2: and put them in there. Someone who's willing to stop

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Speaker 2: the violence.

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Speaker 3: Not guilty. Wow, this is Tony Kats today. Find everything

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Speaker 3: at Tony Kats dot dumb.

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Speaker 1: Lie from Baal Hartland and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: Ask and you shall receive arrests in the church invasion case.

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Speaker 2: Tony Kats Tony Katz today. Good to be here, Good

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Speaker 2: to be with you. Ed Morrissey with the breaking news

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01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 2: you know him from hotair dot com.

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Speaker 3: The story is very clear.

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Speaker 2: Don Lemon, the former CNN host, entering a church with

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Speaker 2: a group of people. They knew what they were there

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Speaker 2: to do, disrupt the church services, intimidate those people, screaming

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Speaker 2: about ice and why don't you care about Somali's and

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01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 2: why don't you care about your Latino's brothers and sisters,

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Speaker 2: and claiming that you're not real Christians. This was about

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Speaker 2: intimidation and disruption because as I see it, this is

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Speaker 2: what the Marxist does.

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Speaker 3: But we'll leave that to the side.

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Speaker 2: The question is was this a violation of the face

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Speaker 2: act or the ku Klux Klan Act. Was Don Lemon

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Speaker 2: as somebody who was responsible for this or is he

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Speaker 2: just simply a journalist covering the story.

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Speaker 3: I don't buy to that at all. You then ed

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Speaker 3: break the story that the FBI has now engaged arrests

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Speaker 3: of these church raid leaders in Indianapolis through it walked

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Speaker 3: me through what happened here.

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Speaker 11: Well, what I assume happened is that they went to

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Speaker 11: a grand jury. They took these cases to a grand jury,

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Speaker 11: got an indictment. That's what I'm assuming is happening. You know,

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Speaker 11: the FBI can arrest people without a grand jury indictment,

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01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 11: but the fact that it took a few days for

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Speaker 11: them to do so, even while these people are going

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Speaker 11: on television and talking about how they violated the law.

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Speaker 11: I mean, there's a CNN clip that I've gotten the

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Speaker 11: post there from last night or from yesterday, not last night,

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Speaker 11: but yesterday, in which Armstrong, one of the two leaders

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Speaker 11: that were arrested today so far that we know.

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Speaker 3: So far have been arrested.

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Speaker 11: On tape talking about this and saying, oh no, we

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Speaker 11: didn't we didn't invade, we didn't interrupt services. And Aaron

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Speaker 11: Burnett of CNN says, well, I won't dispute that, even

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Speaker 11: though they're putting out videos that shows exactly that's what

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Speaker 11: they did. Now, these people have basically published the evidence

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Speaker 11: for their own crimes, and the FBI has this, and

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Speaker 11: I'm sure that the Department of Justice went to a

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Speaker 11: grand jury to get an indictment to arrest these people

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Speaker 11: so that they're solid on solid ground. Because you remember,

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Speaker 11: Tony that there are a number of people saying, why

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Speaker 11: why aren't there any arrests? Where's the FBI? Why haven't

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01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 11: they arrested these people for doing this?

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Speaker 3: It's on video. I was one of those people, and.

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Speaker 11: Our friend Kirch Schlichter, good friend of both of ours,

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Speaker 11: was saying, you guys need to realize this is not

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Speaker 11: a law and order episode. There's a process for this.

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Speaker 11: I'm sure that they've started the process for this. Well,

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Speaker 11: here we are four days later, which is pretty fast

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Speaker 11: when it comes to, you know, a federal case. They've

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Speaker 11: got the two leaders under arrest. I haven't heard anything

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Speaker 11: about Lemon yet. We don't know about Don Lemon yet.

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Speaker 3: Well, let me let me stop you. Right, it's very.

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Speaker 11: Possible he's going to be arrested as well. Because he's

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Speaker 11: on tape talking about how he helped coordinate this.

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Speaker 3: Let me stop you right there.

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Speaker 2: Hold on one second, ed talking to a d Marcia hotair

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Speaker 2: dot com, and I would say it's court selector, a

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01:14:57,080 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 2: trial lawyer, the retired current that trusting this administration to

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01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 2: engage a prosecution is not the business that I'm in.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's anything wrong with.

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01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 2: Saying where that bloody hell are the arrests? Where are

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01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,759
Speaker 2: the charges? And saying well, you got to be patient

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01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 2: and wait is an unacceptable answer from an administration that

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01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 2: has not brought about, in my view, enough of these things.

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Speaker 2: In cases where it is clear you talk about the

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Speaker 2: video evidence, there's also the written evidence where these leaders

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Speaker 2: one is named Nakima Levy Armstrong and then there's Chanteau

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Speaker 2: Luisa Allen. These were the people that Pambondi, the Attorney

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Speaker 2: General named. They quite literally thanked all these different people

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01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 2: on Facebook and other places for being a part of

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01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 2: what happened here. And as they want to describe it, well,

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01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 2: we were just in the church going to services. Then

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Speaker 2: we asked a question, and that's when the pastor came

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Speaker 2: back at us, and that's when we started saying, why

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Speaker 2: aren't you helping these people?

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Speaker 3: And it went from there. They're claiming they did nothing wrong.

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Speaker 2: I argue the video evidence as absolutely the opposite.

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Speaker 3: So there's two things here.

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Speaker 11: There's probable cause and there's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

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Speaker 11: You need probable cause for the indictment in the arrest

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Speaker 11: and the prosecution the video evidence is that the best

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Speaker 11: way to handle probable cause is to take it to

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Speaker 11: a grand jury, because that gives you the most secure

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01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 11: position for an indictment. And I assume that that's what happened,

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Speaker 11: is that they took it to a grand jury, maybe

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Speaker 11: in Minneapolis, maybe someplace else, got the indictment, and issued

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Speaker 11: the warrants. Again, they could do it without an indictment,

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01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 11: but I suspect that the delay here was trying to

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Speaker 11: get an indictment through the proper process so that it's

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Speaker 11: bulletproof when you get into court. The argument that you

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Speaker 11: just gave from Armstrong and Allen is going to be

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01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 11: their defense on trial, and whether or not a jury

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Speaker 11: believes them that this was you know, that they didn't

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01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 11: do anything wrong. That's going to be up to a

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Speaker 11: jury might decide, yeah, they didn't do anything wrong jury.

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Speaker 11: Sometimes do that you get nullification in some cases, which

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01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 11: again you know the jurisdiction for this is going to

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01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 11: be in Minnesota. I don't know that they're going to

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01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 11: hold it in headapin County or if they're going to

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01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 11: look for some other venue. They may change venues on

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Speaker 11: this based on all ours that's going on run there.

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Speaker 11: I would hope so, actually, but it's not easy to

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01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:25,600
Speaker 11: do either. So it's one thing. It's it's something that

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01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 11: they're going to have to probably fight on. But but yeah,

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Speaker 11: I mean the idea here is you get them in,

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Speaker 11: you indict them, you arrest them, and then you give

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Speaker 11: them their give them a fair trial. So they can

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01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 11: make those arguments. But that's not an argument against the rest.

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Speaker 11: That's not an argument against indictment. That's an argument once

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Speaker 11: you get into the courtroom and you are trying to

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01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 11: avoid prison time. And bear in mind that this is

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Speaker 11: a lot less To me, this is a lot worse

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01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 11: violation than the Face Act prosecutions that were conducted under

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Speaker 11: Merit Garland in the Joe Biden regency, as I like

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Speaker 11: to call it, I mean, they arrested Mark Hawk for

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01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 11: a shove on a sidewalk outside an abortion clinic with

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Speaker 11: an armed raid by FBI agents at dawn and then

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01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 11: put him through a trial. This stretched on for months

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Speaker 11: and a jury acquitted him because they didn't.

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Speaker 3: See as a Face Act violation.

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Speaker 11: So this is again, this is the process, and that

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Speaker 11: wasn't even into abortion clinic.

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Speaker 3: That was outside of an abortion clinic.

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Speaker 11: And the Face Act, by the way, protects both abortion

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Speaker 11: clinics and churches. It was written specifically to protect both,

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Speaker 11: and this is going to be and the Ku Klux

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Speaker 11: Klan Act I'm a little less clear on, but apparently

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Speaker 11: it also crosses those lines. There's also conspiracy, which means

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Speaker 11: that you had people conspiring to commit a felony or

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Speaker 11: a felonious act, which sometimes the conspiracy part is worse

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Speaker 11: than the act itself, and that's where you'll start to

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Speaker 11: see other people being brought in as conspirators. Possibly Don

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Speaker 11: Lemon would fall into that category, though as far as

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Speaker 11: I know, he hasn't been terested.

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Speaker 2: You talk about conspirators, wait until you find out someone

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01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 2: talks to somebody else in another state and we start

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01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:13,719
Speaker 2: talking about rico. Because this is a whole gambit going

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Speaker 2: around to be able to try and intimidate and influence

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Speaker 2: elections and influence dollars and a whole bunch of other things.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Ed Marscy of hodair dot com, I want

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Speaker 2: to be clear that I am not.

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Speaker 3: Coming to you from a legal angle.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that you are engaging the reporting here. I

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Speaker 2: am not asking what the result of a case is

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Speaker 2: going to be. I want to know where the prosecutions are.

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Speaker 2: That was how I started the result of a case

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01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 2: as well how a case is prosecuted. Ojy did it,

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Speaker 2: but he was found not guilty, and I think that's

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Speaker 2: the entirety of the point here. But to your argument

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Speaker 2: of conspiracy and some of these other things, the Face

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Speaker 2: Act and the KKK Act, Let's talk a little bit

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01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 2: about the Face Act and how this comes to be.

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Speaker 2: It's nineteen ninety four, signed into law by William Jefferson.

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Speaker 3: Hey, did I get that on your dress? Clinton? And

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Speaker 3: his what? I'm sorry? I thought that was his name.

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Speaker 3: It was right there. I was on the que cart.

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Speaker 2: I apologized slick, will you Well, now you're just being gross.

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Speaker 2: This was about, obstensibly abortion clinics, and I want you

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01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 2: to dig into Merrick Garland what he did with these

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Speaker 2: abortion clinics, because I don't think people understand the amount

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01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 2: Christians were absolutely targeted and abused for utilizing their First

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01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 2: Amendment rights. But the Face Act does protect churches and

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01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 2: does protect parishioners.

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Speaker 3: Walk me through it.

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Speaker 2: And then get into what happened with Merrick Garland, the

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Speaker 2: former Attorney General, jo Joe Biden, and abortion clinics.

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Speaker 11: Well, the Face Act was promoted because there had been

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Speaker 11: in the eighties some violent attacks on abortion clinics, right,

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Speaker 11: and they wanted to escalate this into federal crimes. At

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Speaker 11: the same time, though they also there was also violence

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01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 11: in churches and that sort of thing, and people, this

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01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 11: was a compromise in Congress to marry the two things

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Speaker 11: together into the Face Act. So it was protecting basically

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Speaker 11: both sides, right, So it got buy in from both

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Speaker 11: parties on that basis, and so that's the reason why

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Speaker 11: it exists in its form. It's a reason why Bill

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Speaker 11: Clinton signed it into law. Unfortunately, violence at abortion clinics

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Speaker 11: dropped off, had really kind of dropped off by that

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Speaker 11: point anyway, But again, they wanted to emphasize that the

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Speaker 11: federal government was going to be involved in this. Now

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Speaker 11: we can quibble over this because while there is no

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Speaker 11: First Amendment right to an abortion, there certainly is a

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Speaker 11: First Amendment right to freedom of religious expression, and that

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Speaker 11: especially applies to places of worship. So there is really

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Speaker 11: a federal interest more in the church's angle than there

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Speaker 11: is in the abortion clinic angle, but it does apply

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Speaker 11: to both. And what it means is that you can't

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Speaker 11: go into these places to interrupt, you know, either abortion

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Speaker 11: operations or religious services, regardless of whatever your demonstration is. Now,

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Speaker 11: just to make this clear, had had Armstrong and Allen

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Speaker 11: and Lemon just stayed on the sidewalk, held signs, march

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Speaker 11: back and forth, chanting their chants and singing their songs,

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Speaker 11: it would have been perfectly fine.

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Speaker 2: We've thought that with Ross. Maybe you could have thought

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Speaker 2: them disgusting for doing so, but legally, to your points,

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01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 2: absolutely they would have been within their.

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Speaker 3: Rights, Absolutely legal.

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Speaker 11: And I love peaceful legal demonstrations because I think peaceful

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Speaker 11: legal administrations are a fantastic aspect of American politics. It

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Speaker 11: doesn't mean I have to agree with them, but as

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Speaker 11: long as they're peaceful and legal, it's not a problem.

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Speaker 11: The problem is is that this was not peaceful and

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01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 11: it violated the First Amendment rights of people in that

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Speaker 11: church to conduct religious ceremonies and intimidate themimitating them into

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01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 11: stopping this, stopping this religious warship.

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Speaker 3: So this is the.

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Speaker 11: Consequence of doing that, that's in the Face Act. That

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Speaker 11: is a federal crime. It is not a First Amendment

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01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 11: expression of speech to interrupt somebody else's church services and

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Speaker 11: take them over and intimidate the parishioners that are in there.

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Speaker 11: So this is absolutely a federal crime. It's absolutely a

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Speaker 11: federal government's interest to enforce it. And you know, within

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01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 11: four days, it's pretty good. I think it sends a

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Speaker 11: pretty strong signal that they that this type of thing

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Speaker 11: is going to be prosecuted in the future. I actually

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Speaker 11: think that when a couple of weeks out from now,

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Speaker 11: we're going to look back at the at the alacrity

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01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 11: exhibited by the Department of Justice in this case and

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01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:51,599
Speaker 11: see that as a pretty strong disincentive to this sort

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Speaker 11: of thing in the future.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Ed Marssey off hot air dot Com, I

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01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:57,639
Speaker 2: think what we're going to say, it's it's about time

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01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 2: within all of them over the last few days since

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01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 2: Don Lemon and this group invaded this church. From my words,

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01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 2: I'll use it that way. The left has been either

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01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 2: silent or supportive. Somehow what they did isn't a problem.

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01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:19,679
Speaker 2: What they did isn't an issue. You have this one guy,

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Speaker 2: we're wearing a beanie that says blank Trump on it,

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01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:25,800
Speaker 2: screaming you call yourself Christians? The pastors in a suit?

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01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 2: Did Jesus wear a suit? And I don't know. I

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01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 2: wasn't there, so I'm not sure if he was wearing

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01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:36,240
Speaker 2: HARMANI or hartshafter Marx. I don't know if he cleaned

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01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:39,720
Speaker 2: his tog. I don't have the answers. I hear there

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01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 2: was a shroud and that made him.

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Speaker 3: Look very, very good.

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Speaker 2: The larger scale subject here is that they have not condemned.

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01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 2: It seems the only condemnation you can get these days

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01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 2: is from Senator John Fetterman, who has turned out to

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01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 2: be the voice of reason on the Democratic side. Oh

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01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:59,240
Speaker 2: is he going to get primaried out of existence in

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01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:02,720
Speaker 2: a couple of years? The Democrats, none of them in

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01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 2: a joint statement saying we disagree.

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01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:07,639
Speaker 3: With Ice, but this is too far.

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01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 2: How yeah, your thoughts on where that comes from and

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01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 2: where that leads to, Well, I.

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Speaker 11: Think it comes from the fact that the politics around

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01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:23,600
Speaker 11: this have been radicalized to a large extent, and you

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01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:25,520
Speaker 11: know from people who've been on the ground in Minneapolis,

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01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:28,599
Speaker 11: they talk about how these are not masses of thousands

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Speaker 11: of people. There's a couple one hundred people that show

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01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 11: up to these things, but they're all very radical and

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01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 11: they're organized, and they're trying to create these types of things,

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01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 11: and so of course they're not going to they're not

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01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 11: going to poop poo it, you know, after well, that

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01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 11: was maybe that was a little too far, that's not

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Speaker 11: where they're at. I think that there's a lot of

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01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 11: people who really don't like ice and don't like what

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01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:54,040
Speaker 11: they're doing, who would still take a look at that,

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01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 11: even in Minnesota. Even in Minneapolis, let's take a look

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01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 11: at what happened in that church and say that's just

1443
01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:00,639
Speaker 11: flat out wrong. It should never have happened and and

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01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 11: it should be dealt with forthwith. But you're not going

1445
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 11: to get that from the organized protest out there, because

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01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:10,639
Speaker 11: the radicals, these are the radicals who are who resent

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01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 11: religion anyway. I mean, those remarks, and this is the thing,

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01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:16,880
Speaker 11: and this is the reason why if you're in this

1449
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 11: sort of situation, you shut up and let your attorney

1450
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 11: talk is because that type of talk shows that you

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01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 11: had a hostile intent when you went into that church.

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01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 11: That person is probably going to be among the ones

1453
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:30,719
Speaker 11: that are arrested that I know which one you're talking about.

1454
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:33,719
Speaker 11: He was out there saying, I think it was yesterday,

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01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 11: Come and arrest me, come and get me, come and

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01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 11: kill me.

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01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 3: You can you can kill the you can.

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Speaker 11: Kill the revolutionary, but you can't kill the revolution this

1459
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 11: same guy, and that type of that type of commentary

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01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 11: afterwards is admissible in court and goes to show hostility

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Speaker 11: towards the.

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01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 3: Towards the First.

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Speaker 11: Amendment expression of uh, you know a faith that was

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Speaker 11: taking place in this church.

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01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:03,200
Speaker 3: It goes to motive, and the prosecutors.

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01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 11: In there are going to really lean on that type

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01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 11: of thing to show that this was not just a

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01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 11: demonstration that the intent was to it was to prevent

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01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 11: these people from exercising their First Amendment rights in their

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Speaker 11: own church. And so yeah, that's the reason why maybe

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Speaker 11: that's also the reason why they waited a couple of

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Speaker 11: days to really get this going, because they figured these

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01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:26,759
Speaker 11: people were going to go out and build their case

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01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:28,639
Speaker 11: for them over the next couple of days.

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Speaker 3: That may have been strategic. I've got more with Ed

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01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 3: Marcy coming right up. Keep it here.

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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz and this is Tony Katz today. Find

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01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 2: everything at tonykats dot com. The Board of Peace is

1479
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:40,759
Speaker 2: off and running.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Listen, they're trying something. They're trying something.

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01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:49,520
Speaker 3: And if you can get Hamas out, Hamas.

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01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 2: Destroyed, no more weapons, no more funding of terrorists, fire

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01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:56,759
Speaker 2: around and actually rebuild gos into something worthwhile. I'm willing

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01:27:56,840 --> 01:28:01,799
Speaker 2: to give it a shot. Board of Peace sounds awfully cheesy,

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01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:04,639
Speaker 2: but if the result is good, I don't care. Tony Katz,

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz today, guys, a pleasure will be with you.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget. YouTube dot com is where you go. Just

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01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:13,559
Speaker 2: look for Tony Katz and subscribe. The President launching the

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01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 2: Board a piece while they're in Davos signing the charter

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Speaker 2: of this new body.

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Speaker 3: It was a high profile ceremony.

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Speaker 2: As reported, he sat at a table officials from Morain

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Speaker 2: and Morocco were invited to sign twenty other leaders, following

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Speaker 2: and signing the document in front of a backdrop displaying

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Speaker 2: the newly unveiled logo. Well, if you don't have a logo,

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Speaker 2: you don't even have a board a piece. One must

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01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 2: have a board a piece logo in order for one

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Speaker 2: to have a Board of Peace. Honestly, I mock the name,

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Speaker 2: I don't mock the concept. I don't mock the philosophy.

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Speaker 2: And there is a real anger amongst the United Nations.

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01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:03,680
Speaker 2: They believe that the Board of Peace, in trying to

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01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 2: establish investments and a future for Gaza and therefore a

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01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 2: peace in the Middle East working towards that goal, undercuts them.

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01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:17,679
Speaker 2: The UN is angry that this border peace might undercut

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01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 2: their authority, like they have any authority whatsoever, like they

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01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 2: provide any value. The days of the UN's value are over.

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01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 2: I didn't say you couldn't create a new UN. I

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01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:34,200
Speaker 2: didn't say you couldn't do something with other nations and

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01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:36,080
Speaker 2: talk to them and engage, because I think there's a

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01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 2: great value in that. But this UN, no, absolutely positively not.

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Speaker 3: We don't do this because this is actually supporting a

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01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:51,719
Speaker 3: group that doesn't believe in Western civilization. They don't believe

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01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 3: in capitalism, they don't share our values, and they work

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01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 3: to undercut us and undermine us.

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01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 2: They work to protect desk spots, they work to protect

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01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 2: a globe order and the answer is no. We need

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01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 2: people who want to work together on trade and work

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01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 2: together in safety and security.

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01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:08,559
Speaker 3: But you run your nation and I'll run my nation.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Have a nice day.

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Speaker 2: Oh, those guys are terrorists. Let's go put an end

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01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:14,599
Speaker 2: to that. You run your nation, I'll run my nation.

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01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:17,120
Speaker 2: Let's have a nice day. We'll engage some great bubblah. Well,

1524
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 2: you guys are acting up. Let's all talk about it. Okay,

1525
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:21,760
Speaker 2: everybody's cool. Great, Fine, you run your nation, I'll run

1526
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:24,559
Speaker 2: my nation. Let's go do some trade like that's it.

1527
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 2: What it is now certainly is a valueless proposition. Now

1528
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 2: there are some nations on this board of piece that

1529
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:38,760
Speaker 2: haven't signed yet. Germany turned it down, France turned it down.

1530
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 2: George Maloney's the Prime Minister of Italy, said we need

1531
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:44,479
Speaker 2: more time. There's work that needs to be done. However,

1532
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:50,680
Speaker 2: my position certainly remains one of openness. Okay, Trump's moving forward,

1533
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 2: and the moving forward is a hugely important piece because

1534
01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:59,160
Speaker 2: it states that why is it that only these nations

1535
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:01,599
Speaker 2: are the ones that get to decide how things go?

1536
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:04,679
Speaker 2: There aren't other nations in the world, There aren't other friendships,

1537
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:07,519
Speaker 2: relationships that we can create. Now, maybe some of the

1538
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:10,679
Speaker 2: nations we don't like on the border peach as possible,

1539
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:13,960
Speaker 2: But as a matter of concept of trying to get

1540
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 2: something done, I don't know if it's gonna work, but

1541
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:18,400
Speaker 2: undercutting the UN is not my concern.

1542
01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:23,600
Speaker 3: Making sure Hamas is dead and buried it. This is

1543
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 3: Tony Katz today. So we've got arrests that have taken

1544
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:31,920
Speaker 3: place because of the church invasion. Do I get to

1545
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:34,120
Speaker 3: see cuffs on Don Lemon? Oh?

1546
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:37,680
Speaker 2: One can dream? Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, Good to

1547
01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 2: be with you. Ed Marrissey joins me right.

1548
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 3: Now from hot air dot com, where he is the

1549
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 3: Coppo de two D Coppo over there. Ed Marssey on

1550
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 3: the Twitter X two ours to s is.

1551
01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:50,120
Speaker 2: Be sure to check it out as we're discussing Pam

1552
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:54,919
Speaker 2: BONDI making moves and in my view about time arrests

1553
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:57,280
Speaker 2: made of the two leaders of the groups involved in

1554
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:01,919
Speaker 2: the church invasion in Saint Paul, Minnesota, harassing church goers,

1555
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:06,080
Speaker 2: intimidating church goers. Some ar you terrorizing church goers, and

1556
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:08,200
Speaker 2: I'll use the wording of the left here. I think

1557
01:32:08,240 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 2: that's all absolutely okay. When you're screaming and children are

1558
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:15,040
Speaker 2: crying you're terrorizing people. That's what this group did. And

1559
01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 2: in that group was Don Lemon. Don Lemon, the former

1560
01:32:19,240 --> 01:32:22,559
Speaker 2: CNN host who put out a video and you have

1561
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:26,760
Speaker 2: it in the article, and you've got it as clear

1562
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:31,280
Speaker 2: as day. You actually show where the video is of

1563
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:37,759
Speaker 2: Don Lemon right there. Uh he is, you know, talking

1564
01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:40,479
Speaker 2: about Hey, I'm out here, and and and and the

1565
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:43,880
Speaker 2: crowds out here and and uh, they're gonna YouTube.

1566
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:47,719
Speaker 3: I got a little bit of go and did some.

1567
01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 4: Some reconnaissance on the ground, speaking to an organization there

1568
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:58,280
Speaker 4: that's gearing up to for resistance and protests. I've been surprised,

1569
01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 4: pleasantly surprised to see the community coming together, the Verse community.

1570
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:03,760
Speaker 5: If you see this.

1571
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:05,599
Speaker 4: When we first pulled up, we were like, wait a minute,

1572
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:09,800
Speaker 4: would this which operation are we at? And as it

1573
01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:11,880
Speaker 4: turns out, because we were like, well, this is kind

1574
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:14,719
Speaker 4: of maga coded, right, So the American flag or whatever

1575
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:15,680
Speaker 4: with these.

1576
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:21,400
Speaker 2: An American flag is is maga coded uh Ed Marsci.

1577
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:24,759
Speaker 2: But he's wearing a hat that says Lemon. He's got

1578
01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:28,200
Speaker 2: his uh microphone which is DL for Don Lemon.

1579
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 3: He's going to pretend that it wasn't him, It was

1580
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:36,160
Speaker 3: my evil Twins Skippy, he knew this was happening, and

1581
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 3: he then went on to say, listen, I was just

1582
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:41,240
Speaker 3: a journalist covering, uh this story.

1583
01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:44,639
Speaker 2: And we've already heard from William Jacobson of Legal insurrection

1584
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:45,280
Speaker 2: dot com.

1585
01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 3: You know, there were.

1586
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:48,160
Speaker 2: People associated with January sixth who said we were just

1587
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:51,519
Speaker 2: recording what was happening. We were an independent journalist. It

1588
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:54,879
Speaker 2: didn't work for them. Talk to me about Don Lemon's

1589
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:55,320
Speaker 2: take here.

1590
01:33:56,280 --> 01:33:58,800
Speaker 11: Well, there's also another video of Don Lemon that I

1591
01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:01,280
Speaker 11: don't think I have in the in the post, but

1592
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:03,799
Speaker 11: we've had it at hot Air where he's talking about

1593
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 11: how seeing children leaving the church in tears, and that's

1594
01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:11,080
Speaker 11: part of the process, right, you have to have that

1595
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:15,720
Speaker 11: sort of impact when you're protesting. So I mean he's

1596
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 11: saying that after the fact, so I don't necessarily know

1597
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:20,719
Speaker 11: that they prosecutors can use that pro motive. And again

1598
01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:23,080
Speaker 11: I'm this is speculative because as far as I know,

1599
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 11: Don Lemon hasn't been charged or arrested yet. But the

1600
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:27,920
Speaker 11: fact that he was in the church with them, he

1601
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:31,040
Speaker 11: went in with them and started peppering the pastor with

1602
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 11: questions in the middle of all of this does not

1603
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 11: speak very well to being simply a journalist. This is

1604
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:41,479
Speaker 11: somebody who was part of the harassment that was taking place,

1605
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:46,000
Speaker 11: arguably at least and again I think in the case

1606
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:47,880
Speaker 11: of Don Lemon especially, you'd want to take that to

1607
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:51,439
Speaker 11: a grand jury before you issued an indictment, or for

1608
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 11: you issued to arrest warrant. You'd want the indictment in hand,

1609
01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 11: just to show that you've checked all the boxes before

1610
01:34:57,360 --> 01:35:00,600
Speaker 11: you arrest somebody who has been recognized as journalists in

1611
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:04,320
Speaker 11: years past. But in this case, he was clearly an activist.

1612
01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:08,280
Speaker 11: He was clearly part of this whole project of invading

1613
01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:13,120
Speaker 11: this church. There's apparently evidence that Armstrong, I think, has

1614
01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:16,040
Speaker 11: talked about where she was coordinating this with Don Lemon.

1615
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:18,840
Speaker 11: And again, this is one of the reasons why you

1616
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:22,479
Speaker 11: want to shut up about stuff. Have your attorneys doo

1617
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:25,599
Speaker 11: you're talking for you in the aftermath of things like this,

1618
01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 11: and that type of thing is gonna it's going to

1619
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:31,320
Speaker 11: be admissible in court, and he's gonna have he's gonna

1620
01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 11: have to lawyer up no matter what he does, and

1621
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:35,200
Speaker 11: he's gonna be lucky if he's not charged in this.

1622
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:39,960
Speaker 2: And that you know, when you listen to his smugness

1623
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:44,280
Speaker 2: in his quasi defense about how he's just a journalist

1624
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:46,439
Speaker 2: and you're only going after me because I'm a black

1625
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:52,760
Speaker 2: gay man, as if anybody cares whatsoever. I think this

1626
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:56,600
Speaker 2: becomes a conversation about clickbait. Hey, this is going to

1627
01:35:56,680 --> 01:35:58,800
Speaker 2: get me in the headlines. Hey, this is going to

1628
01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:03,400
Speaker 2: get me a lot of views here and then the

1629
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:06,840
Speaker 2: ever popular No one's really going to come after me.

1630
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 3: I can get away with these things. Is there is

1631
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:15,439
Speaker 3: there more of this to come?

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01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:18,320
Speaker 2: You know, A Lensky talks about a good tactic as well,

1633
01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:22,719
Speaker 2: your people enjoy Is this the tactic? Is Don Lemon

1634
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 2: doing this now an inspiration to other progressives and people

1635
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:29,400
Speaker 2: who are on the margins, like Jim Acossa and others,

1636
01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:31,400
Speaker 2: to say.

1637
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 3: This is the way?

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01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:35,040
Speaker 11: No, I think that the fact that people are getting

1639
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:37,120
Speaker 11: arrested for this is a pretty is a pretty strong

1640
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:40,120
Speaker 11: disincentive for this is the way now. The activists are

1641
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:42,519
Speaker 11: one thing, but when you get people like Jim Acosta

1642
01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:45,800
Speaker 11: and Don Lemon who are at risk, then I think

1643
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:49,040
Speaker 11: things start to back off just a little bit. But yes,

1644
01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:50,439
Speaker 11: I mean I think you're right. I think this is

1645
01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:52,760
Speaker 11: about clickbait. It's about getting attention. That's kind of what

1646
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:59,320
Speaker 11: this type of I don't want to call activism, because

1647
01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:01,840
Speaker 11: there's legitive forms of activism. This is what this kind

1648
01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:06,920
Speaker 11: of uh uh terrorism, maybe a little too strong intimidation.

1649
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:10,240
Speaker 11: This is what these types of intimidation tactics are supposed

1650
01:37:10,240 --> 01:37:11,240
Speaker 11: to produce. It's supposed to.

1651
01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:12,719
Speaker 3: Produce great feelings.

1652
01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:16,640
Speaker 11: You're you're feeling powerful, You're you're you're interfering with the

1653
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:19,559
Speaker 11: man and you know, and f Trump and all of this.

1654
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:26,639
Speaker 11: And that is going to incentivize some people who aren't

1655
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:30,240
Speaker 11: entirely rational or don't really think things through very well,

1656
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:33,160
Speaker 11: like don Lemon, to do things that are going to

1657
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 11: get them in a great deal of trouble. And and

1658
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:38,559
Speaker 11: that's where that's where we're at with this. This is

1659
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:40,200
Speaker 11: and by the way, this is where we're at with

1660
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 11: Renee Good. I'm not happy that Rene Good was shot

1661
01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:47,760
Speaker 11: by by ice, but she was out there obstructing their operations.

1662
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:51,360
Speaker 11: She didn't follow lawful commands to step out of her car.

1663
01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:54,639
Speaker 11: Her wife told her to drive away, and she hit

1664
01:37:54,680 --> 01:38:00,360
Speaker 11: an agent and that's lethal force. It was all sorts

1665
01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:03,120
Speaker 11: of bad on just it was a bad outcome of

1666
01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:06,720
Speaker 11: a bad situation. That's what the risks are in these

1667
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:08,880
Speaker 11: types of things. This is sort of the extreme of

1668
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:12,120
Speaker 11: the outcomes of it. Nobody wants to see anybody get

1669
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:15,679
Speaker 11: shot in circumstances like that. It's terrible that somebody did.

1670
01:38:16,160 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 11: But this is what happens when you play with fire,

1671
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:21,680
Speaker 11: is you get burned eventually, And that's what happened with

1672
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:23,679
Speaker 11: Renee Good, and that's what's going to happen the next

1673
01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:27,960
Speaker 11: time somebody tries to interfere with ICE and uses lethal force,

1674
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:32,960
Speaker 11: either against the officers in the field or in.

1675
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:35,479
Speaker 3: Order to escape them. It's but I think this is

1676
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:37,280
Speaker 3: why you don't do that sort of run two different

1677
01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:40,800
Speaker 3: subjects though. There's the one subject of whether or not

1678
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:44,200
Speaker 3: people rational people who may not like what Ice is doing,

1679
01:38:44,240 --> 01:38:46,320
Speaker 3: would get involved in how this may keep them away.

1680
01:38:46,479 --> 01:38:49,759
Speaker 2: Now that's just too much. But don Lemon is taking

1681
01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:52,439
Speaker 2: a look at clicks and hits and interviews like, all right,

1682
01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:55,559
Speaker 2: I'm back on the front pages. Everyone realizes how important

1683
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:59,200
Speaker 2: I am. And that's a crazy a fordijiak. And then

1684
01:38:59,240 --> 01:39:02,320
Speaker 2: you have the other people like that guy screaming you

1685
01:39:02,320 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 2: can kill me, you can kill the revolutionary, but you

1686
01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:08,679
Speaker 2: can't kill the revolution The word state that they don't

1687
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:10,440
Speaker 2: see this as a disagreement.

1688
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:14,479
Speaker 3: They are discussing a total dismantling of the nation writ large.

1689
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:18,040
Speaker 2: They are absolutely, at least in their words, willing to die.

1690
01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:20,400
Speaker 2: And when I take a look at them going into

1691
01:39:20,439 --> 01:39:23,280
Speaker 2: a church and engaging the intimidation.

1692
01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:25,080
Speaker 3: I do believe you can use the word terrorizing.

1693
01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:28,120
Speaker 2: I think that that puts you moments away from them

1694
01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:33,280
Speaker 2: lighting bibles on fire. Now, yeah, you won't see anybody

1695
01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:36,720
Speaker 2: walk into a mosque with forty people saying, how come

1696
01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:39,880
Speaker 2: you're not upset with Somali's that were involved in fraud

1697
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:42,839
Speaker 2: of the American people. Why aren't you out there supporting

1698
01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:45,679
Speaker 2: the American people as opposed to this fraud that's never

1699
01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:48,519
Speaker 2: going to come, Which is another part of this story.

1700
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:53,000
Speaker 2: But I do think that we are in this place

1701
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:57,960
Speaker 2: where we don't see the disincentive. Rather the true believer

1702
01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:00,519
Speaker 2: who has been told that the whole name is going

1703
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:03,240
Speaker 2: to be destroyed if we don't get rid of Trump,

1704
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:05,679
Speaker 2: get rid of Ice, stop Republicans, keep them from winning

1705
01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:08,960
Speaker 2: by any and every means possible. I think it's just

1706
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:11,720
Speaker 2: to lead to more and greater violent acts.

1707
01:40:12,280 --> 01:40:15,000
Speaker 11: It is, it is, this is what happens when you

1708
01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:19,240
Speaker 11: when you adopt a resistance mentality instead of an opposition mentality.

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01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:20,000
Speaker 5: Right.

1710
01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:24,200
Speaker 11: I mean, when you're in a constitutional republic, you know,

1711
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:29,439
Speaker 11: based on democratic you know processes, when you lose an election,

1712
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:33,640
Speaker 11: you're in the opposition, right, you know, there's there's responsibilities

1713
01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:35,800
Speaker 11: for being in the opposition. You highlight all the things

1714
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 11: that are going wrong, You try to you try to

1715
01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:40,960
Speaker 11: engage as much as possible to get what you can.

1716
01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:41,880
Speaker 5: Uh.

1717
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:49,000
Speaker 11: That's that's the traditional republican democratic republic in the non

1718
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:53,519
Speaker 11: communist sense, right, because democratic republic is you know what

1719
01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:58,280
Speaker 11: some communist states call themselves. That's a traditional role in

1720
01:40:58,439 --> 01:41:01,519
Speaker 11: a in a constitutional republic of people who lose elections,

1721
01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:06,680
Speaker 11: they go into the opposition. They propose alternatives, alternatives for policies,

1722
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:09,600
Speaker 11: They try to get compromises so they can get some

1723
01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:12,720
Speaker 11: of their objectives pushed through until the next election. The

1724
01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:15,519
Speaker 11: people who are involved in this are not opposition, They

1725
01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:20,400
Speaker 11: are resistance. And so they're they're framing this is that

1726
01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:23,519
Speaker 11: they have to obstruct literally everything that's going on. They

1727
01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:26,479
Speaker 11: want to create this kind of chaos in order to

1728
01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:29,840
Speaker 11: provoke the larger revolution. Yeah, and you're right, some of

1729
01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:34,280
Speaker 11: these disincentives won't even touch those impulses. What it will do, though,

1730
01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:38,320
Speaker 11: is it will limit the recruitment for that type of

1731
01:41:39,479 --> 01:41:43,679
Speaker 11: for that type of approach. I guess you can say

1732
01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:51,519
Speaker 11: it will. It will eventually force people to think about

1733
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:56,559
Speaker 11: things rationally, and the people who are rational will respond

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Speaker 11: to those incentives, which and I'm hoping that the people

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Speaker 11: who are in irrational are very few in number.

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Speaker 3: To the mid realms. So it brings me to the midterms.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Ed Morrissey of hotair dot com, does any

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Speaker 2: of this any of what we have seen, the the

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01:42:14,280 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 2: slander of ICE agents, the politicos saying we should defund

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Speaker 2: ice and you people are are are terrorists and and

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Speaker 2: and you're unworthy and you're good, the other gestapo uh

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01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:29,240
Speaker 2: and uh, the hitting of them with cars, the ramming

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Speaker 2: of cars, what happened with with Renee Good watching what

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01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:37,960
Speaker 2: has happened regarding this this church invasion? Is there an

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Speaker 2: effect on the voter for the midterms, which I would

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01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:47,080
Speaker 2: normally call an economic election where the opportunity for gaining

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01:42:47,080 --> 01:42:49,320
Speaker 2: seats goes with the opposition party as opposed to the

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01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:51,360
Speaker 2: party in power. The data shows that in the House,

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01:42:51,800 --> 01:42:54,679
Speaker 2: mostly in the House more often than not, in the Senate,

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Speaker 2: does this have an effect in your view?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it does.

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01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:02,040
Speaker 11: And I've been talking about this with people and I've

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01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:03,840
Speaker 11: written about it a couple times, and people get a

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01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:06,360
Speaker 11: little irritated by this. But the problem is is that

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01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:10,360
Speaker 11: it's chaos, and chaos always redounds against the party in power.

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01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:15,479
Speaker 11: Voters expect things to be handled with a minimum amount

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01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:18,360
Speaker 11: of chaos, and the chaos agents kind of count on

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01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:19,920
Speaker 11: this too, by the way, and this is what happened

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01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:22,120
Speaker 11: in twenty twenty, is that you had all sorts of

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01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:25,080
Speaker 11: chaos breaking out, first with the pandemic, then with the riots,

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01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:31,960
Speaker 11: and Republicans ended up narrowly losing that election. That's what

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01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:33,720
Speaker 11: they're trying to set up for the midterms too. Is

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01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:37,799
Speaker 11: this chaos, and to a certain extent, it is being

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01:43:39,640 --> 01:43:45,280
Speaker 11: activated through very aggressive tactics by Immigrations and Customers Enforcement, right,

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Speaker 11: which I completely.

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Speaker 3: Support the mission.

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Speaker 11: I understand that they're arresting people who are very bad

1768
01:43:51,479 --> 01:43:53,599
Speaker 11: and there's only certain ways that you can do this.

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01:43:53,680 --> 01:43:56,160
Speaker 11: They're trying to explain how they're going through the process,

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01:43:56,160 --> 01:44:00,479
Speaker 11: and that's all good. It's a very difficult situation though,

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01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:03,960
Speaker 11: because when it creates chaos, people look at that and say, well,

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01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:07,680
Speaker 11: I support the policy, but I don't necessarily want to

1773
01:44:07,680 --> 01:44:10,679
Speaker 11: see these outcomes as a result of that, and people

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01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:13,600
Speaker 11: will look at the chaos and blame the party in

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01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:16,479
Speaker 11: power for it. So yes, I think that there is

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01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:19,240
Speaker 11: a risk in the midterms with this, and I don't

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01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:21,679
Speaker 11: think that risk actually existed until two or three weeks ago.

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01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:24,400
Speaker 11: Just remember this is all just over the last two or.

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Speaker 3: Three Will you see the risks for the Republicans and

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01:44:27,560 --> 01:44:28,440
Speaker 3: not the Democrats?

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01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:33,680
Speaker 11: Yes, yes, because the Democrats aren't in charge. Republicans are

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01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:35,840
Speaker 11: in charge, so they sort of own the chaos that

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01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:36,960
Speaker 11: gets created.

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Speaker 3: People are going to look.

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Speaker 11: At this and say, what was the what was the

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01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:45,000
Speaker 11: initiating factor, what was the catalyst for the chaos? And

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01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:48,160
Speaker 11: if they conclude that it was ICE enforcing immigration laws

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01:44:48,200 --> 01:44:51,080
Speaker 11: in the way that ICE is doing, then yes, I

1789
01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:53,680
Speaker 11: think there's a risk for Republicans in the midterms that

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01:44:53,720 --> 01:44:55,640
Speaker 11: this is the.

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Speaker 3: Reactive isn't the answer put down the chaos and this

1792
01:44:59,360 --> 01:45:01,320
Speaker 3: nonsense federalizing.

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01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:03,000
Speaker 11: That that's what you're trying to get it done, Well,

1794
01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:06,360
Speaker 11: then then you're really setting fire too. Then you're really

1795
01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:09,160
Speaker 11: setting fire to the chaos narrative, because if you send

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01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:12,360
Speaker 11: in if you if you invoke the Insurrection Act, which

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01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:14,680
Speaker 11: I guarantee you Trump would be inclined to do. Otherwise,

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01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:20,919
Speaker 11: then you're really creating a crisis. And again, crisis is chaos,

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01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:23,720
Speaker 11: and voters are not going to respond well to that.

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Speaker 11: It's I'm just saying that this is the type of

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01:45:27,479 --> 01:45:29,680
Speaker 11: thing today you probably want to get a hold of

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01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:33,000
Speaker 11: and dial down as fast as you can do.

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Speaker 3: It while still maintaining the mission. I do not know, tricky,

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01:45:35,720 --> 01:45:36,759
Speaker 3: and it's going to be tricky.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you're wrong, but saying that they

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01:45:39,479 --> 01:45:43,080
Speaker 2: can engage in rioting and the political right suffers the

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01:45:43,120 --> 01:45:47,200
Speaker 2: consequences of it, that that is, That's a messed up

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01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:49,000
Speaker 2: thought and one that's going to keep some people up

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Speaker 2: at night.

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Speaker 3: Ed Morrissey hotair dot com.

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Speaker 2: Check out his latest over there on the arrests in

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Speaker 2: the church invasion. I appreciate you very much more to

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Speaker 2: get to I'm Tony and this is Tony Kats Today.

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Speaker 3: So by all accounts, this weather.

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Speaker 2: That is coming through the country is going to be

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Speaker 2: I believe the term is ugly. Tony Kats. Tony Kats today,

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Speaker 2: good to be with you. I'm following every single bit

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Speaker 2: of it because this weather is going to make a

1819
01:46:22,640 --> 01:46:25,559
Speaker 2: huge determination on you know, I've got an event. I'm

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01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:28,719
Speaker 2: supposed to have this weekend Trump one year later, the highs,

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Speaker 2: the lows, how we win the midterm? Looking back, I've

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Speaker 2: got bourbon, I've got food everybody.

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Speaker 3: And now I'm like, I'm paying attention very closely to

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Speaker 3: what this weather is going to bring, because this weather

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Speaker 3: might change things a whole bunch of things. Right now,

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Speaker 3: we're still a go.

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Speaker 2: But you look at how this thing is moving across

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01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:51,799
Speaker 2: the country and everybody's in a panic. And of course,

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01:46:52,040 --> 01:46:54,360
Speaker 2: because it's going to affect the East Coast, they act

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01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:57,479
Speaker 2: like it's the only story out there. When storms affect

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01:46:57,600 --> 01:47:00,720
Speaker 2: affect us in the Midwest, ah whatever, they don't care

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Speaker 2: at all.

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Speaker 3: It's so pathetic. But this one does affect the Midwest.

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Speaker 3: And our friends on Karmgh in Oklahoma are gonna get affected,

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Speaker 3: our friends on news talk Saint Lewis, they're gonna get affected.

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Speaker 3: It's it's a it's a battle.

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Speaker 2: This is some real weather. The question is, uh, for me,

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Speaker 2: what's gonna happen in my beloved Indiana? And it seems

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01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 2: to be like cutting the state in half. A lot

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01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:28,000
Speaker 2: of people There's can be traffic issues for sure on

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01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:31,640
Speaker 2: the roads, but travel issues with flights. There's going to

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01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:34,160
Speaker 2: be all sorts of things that happen because because some

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01:47:34,160 --> 01:47:35,240
Speaker 2: people are nuts.

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Speaker 3: And there's gonna be some real weather. So keep an

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01:47:37,600 --> 01:47:40,640
Speaker 3: eye and keep listening to your radios and keep an

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01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:43,360
Speaker 3: eye on what's going on and be safe.

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Speaker 2: That's the best there is. Find everything at Tony Katz

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Speaker 2: dot com. Tomorrow, everyone take cares.