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Speaker 1: of your morning ritual. Later, futuristic researcher Sadeka Bakari, you

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Speaker 1: gn Okay, let go, okay, but let's get Kevin opened

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Speaker 1: the classroom doors for this Thursday morning, Grand Rising, Kevin Grand.

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Speaker 2: Rising, mister Carl Nelson, it would be my honor to

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Speaker 2: and so therefore I'm doing it on there are eight

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Speaker 2: Your your new affirmation still learning is that that's not

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Speaker 1: But you do that every day and you keep mentioning

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Speaker 2: Do I need to quote the African proverb again today?

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Speaker 2: He who he who knows and knows not that he knows,

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Speaker 2: Carl News wise, man, I don't even know where to begin.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for your time. All right, thanks Kevin, Let's bring

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you very much, Morson for the opportunity.

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Speaker 1: His to his actual right there, Doctor Okay, we gotta

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I was saying that the issue of repression

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Speaker 1: teaches at Lincoln University in Pennsylvania, Donard Goke. So many Well,

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Speaker 1: somebody got quite a few of the African leaders in

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Speaker 1: the eighties and they have seem like they have no

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Speaker 1: intentions of stepping down. Well African, the people who they represent,

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Speaker 1: it's the youngest continent out there. The average the mean age,

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Speaker 1: I think it's in the teens or even less than

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Speaker 1: the twins teens. How can can you reconcile that for us,

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Speaker 1: the people they're leading are much much younger than probably

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Speaker 1: their great grandchildren or grandchildren that some of the leaders

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Speaker 1: are will refuse to give up power by the.

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Speaker 4: Way, Yeah, okay, thank you, but just I think for

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Speaker 4: me it's not given now. It's not even by the age.

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Speaker 4: You know, we have some it's not even about the age.

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Speaker 4: There are some people who are young, but they've been

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Speaker 4: powerful over thirty twenty years. And then of course we

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Speaker 4: have Paulbia from Cameroon. He's been there for more than

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Speaker 4: forty years. We have Museveni also, I think it's like

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Speaker 4: more more than thirty five years. Muse Evening who's lived

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Speaker 4: in Uganda. We have Sasu and Gezo who's the leader

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Speaker 4: of Congo. Brother will you know, there was a time

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Speaker 4: he was not in power, but he's been there for more,

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Speaker 4: maybe more than thirty years in power. And then also

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Speaker 4: he's also in his eighties. So we have those leaders,

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Speaker 4: many of them visionless, many of them clinging to power,

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Speaker 4: many of them outdated and outperformed, you know, by some

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Speaker 4: of the initiatives in different parts of the world. But

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Speaker 4: they are cringing to power either for themselves for all,

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Speaker 4: for you know, the clan, or for the people around

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Speaker 4: or for the tribes. So this is what is happening.

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Speaker 4: But there is like a perpetual battle between those leaders

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Speaker 4: and some other ones. And then the massive is that

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Speaker 4: want more democratic values on the continent. And that's why

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Speaker 4: we saw what happened in Mali, in Nisia, in Bukles.

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Speaker 4: That's why, uh, you know, there are some uprisings on

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Speaker 4: the continent. We saw that in Kenya because people want

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Speaker 4: better lives and they want you know that they want

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Speaker 4: those leaders either to step down or to do or

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Speaker 4: what needs to be done in order to improve the

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Speaker 4: lives of the people. So hopefully that will be uh

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Speaker 4: you know, we can see better, better results in in

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Speaker 4: a few in a few years.

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Speaker 1: All right, Twin to get away from the topic helps

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Speaker 1: out here because we always have some new listeners and

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Speaker 1: not of to date on what's going to end us

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Speaker 1: the holl Nations. Can you just give a short description

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Speaker 1: of what's going on. How Malain this year and Bukino

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Speaker 1: Farsho decided to chart their own destinies and what France

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Speaker 1: is doing about this.

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Speaker 4: So there was first of all Malai Nize booking all

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Speaker 4: of them they were part of the regional grouping called

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Speaker 4: the Economic Community of West African States. That grouping was

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Speaker 4: created in nineteen seventy five. And then last year we

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Speaker 4: were celebrating the fiftieth anniversary of ECOWAS or the Gibt

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Speaker 4: of Ecowas. And like I said, there were some those

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Speaker 4: two those three countries of the Cell States were facing

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Speaker 4: the French nuclear interference and also they were dealing with

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Speaker 4: some tourist attacks coming from it led me groups in

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Speaker 4: the region. And then in the case of Mali, there

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Speaker 4: were several groups controlled by the Europeans, and then they

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Speaker 4: were not able in order to stop the killing of

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Speaker 4: the military and the civilians in Mali. And book As

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Speaker 4: was facing the same thing and also the same thing

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Speaker 4: in Nize. So the people took to the streets in

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Speaker 4: those three countries and then eventually they put the uprisings

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Speaker 4: are led to the right to power of officers in

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Speaker 4: Mali first and then taken in Booklevasso and number three

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Speaker 4: in Nize. And then even though because this is also

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Speaker 4: the reality, even though those leaders we cannot see that

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Speaker 4: they were trained the Pan Africanists. But you know, the serf,

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Speaker 4: the serf on the wave of the Pan African consciousness

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Speaker 4: and then they've been claiming Pan Africanism and they've been

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Speaker 4: using the rhetoric of Africa so sovereignity, and the Pan

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Speaker 4: Africanist nationalists on the continent like rallying around them. And

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Speaker 4: then they became like a real threat to the regimes

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Speaker 4: of Ibricos and Senegal under the leadership of Marquissal Patrist

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Speaker 4: Salon and some other leaders who were of course on

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Speaker 4: the side of the Europeans, are saying that those leaders,

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Speaker 4: those officers, uh, we're not doing we're not practicing democracy.

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Speaker 4: And then no ten tension sanctions against them. So they

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Speaker 4: decided that you know, they were going to leave Echo

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Speaker 4: was and in order to create the Alliance of the

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Speaker 4: Cell States so that they can fight together against tororism,

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Speaker 4: so that they can support each other in the face

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Speaker 4: of the new colonial threat coming from from friends and

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Speaker 4: from the European So this is then many support what

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Speaker 4: they're doing. So that is the background of the existence

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Speaker 4: of the Alliance of the Cell States in West right.

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Speaker 1: Let me twenty five away from the time, have they

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Speaker 1: finally cut ties with French and they're still using the

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Speaker 1: SIFA Frank they got their own money and the question

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Speaker 1: is the question that my question again is a lot

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Speaker 1: of the African nations, they don't they don't make their

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Speaker 1: own money, they don't print their own money. Are they

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Speaker 1: still going to French? And there's a how nations still

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Speaker 1: having French print money for them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that is something that I don't understand. Uh,

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Speaker 4: they're still using the sife drink and then I don't

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Speaker 4: know how they're managing to help the manager to do that.

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Speaker 4: But yes they have. They expelled the French military basis.

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Speaker 4: They did that Malagnisia and Malagnisia and bo. But they're

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Speaker 4: still using the Civer frame. But they are attempted, they

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Speaker 4: are attempting, you know, to to reconquer uh pockets let

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Speaker 4: me see that, pockets of sovereignty in their respective countries.

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Speaker 4: But they're still using the several drink.

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Speaker 1: So can they actually be free if they still have

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Speaker 1: to use the money to see for frank until they

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Speaker 1: have their own money. Isn't that a major issue?

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Speaker 4: Of course, it's a major issue. But that I think

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Speaker 4: and I hope and I hear that they're trying to

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Speaker 4: have their own currency. So we are, all of us,

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Speaker 4: we are watching to see what they're going to do.

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Speaker 4: But one of the things that I want to take

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Speaker 4: the opportunity to talk about. One thing that I don't

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Speaker 4: think they're doing is that I don't see them rallying

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Speaker 4: people who can really really help them lack in that process.

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Speaker 4: Then certainly talking to some other the leaders, some other policymakers.

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Speaker 4: But there is a young Senegalize his name is his

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Speaker 4: name is don't go Sambatilla. I think that among all

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Speaker 4: the people were talking about the civil Frank. His position

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Speaker 4: is very revolutionary, but they have not called him, you know,

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Speaker 4: in the conversation about how to how to greet like

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Speaker 4: deceit a Frank.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty three away from the top company break. When

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Speaker 1: we come back though, explain to the audience how prior

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Speaker 1: to the forming of this alliance Hounds and Nations Burkina,

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Speaker 1: Fasomali and this year that most of the Francophone countries

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Speaker 1: they had to get permission from French to do any

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Speaker 1: major projects building highways, bridges, reports whatever, airports, and the

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Speaker 1: French had the first dips and they had to send

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Speaker 1: all that money back to Paris, to the French treasury,

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Speaker 1: and they still had to pay parents send money to

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Speaker 1: the French. And what the Alliance Nations have done. They're refusing.

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Speaker 1: They're keeping the money by themselves in their country to

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Speaker 1: help develop their country. Can you explain that. When we

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Speaker 1: get back, family, YouTube can join our conversation with our guest,

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Speaker 1: Professor Gnachlagke from Lincoln University in Pennsylvania. You can reach

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Speaker 1: us at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six.

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Speaker 1: Take your phone calls after we check the news, trafficking,

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Speaker 1: weather and not different cities. That's next and Grand Rising family,

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Speaker 1: thanks for starting your Tuesday. I mention, let me check

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Speaker 1: that starting your Thursday with us, it is Thursday. Don't

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Speaker 1: make a mistake like me. It is Thursday morning. And

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Speaker 1: our guest is doctor Ganako Lagoki teaches the Lincoln University

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Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania and give us an update on what's going

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Speaker 1: on on the continent these days. So if you've got questions,

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Speaker 1: you can reach him at eight hundred four or five

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Speaker 1: zero seventy eight seventy six. Before we go back to

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Speaker 1: the let me just remind you. Coming up later this morning,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna speak with futuristic researcher brother Sadeka Bakari and

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Speaker 1: also before brother Sidiki, the Reverend doctor Barbara Reynolds will

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Speaker 1: join us. Are both going to talk about AI, artificial intelligence,

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Speaker 1: and tomorrow's Friday, we give you a chance to free

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Speaker 1: your mind. All that means is think for yourself and

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Speaker 1: join us for another edition of Open Phone Friday. That's

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Speaker 1: the name of the program again promptly at six am

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Speaker 1: Eastern time right here in Baltimore on ten ten WLB

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Speaker 1: and also in the DMV on fourteen fifty WOL. All right,

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Speaker 1: doctor Legoki here tell us about the situation with the

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Speaker 1: Sahal nations and the fact that every business tranksaction has

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Speaker 1: to be has to be verified and approved by the French,

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Speaker 1: and they have to send money back to the French treasure.

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Speaker 1: And now the how nations have decided to keep them

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Speaker 1: money nationalize some of the energies in their countries as well.

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Speaker 1: So can you expand on that for audience.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you said it already. So this is the pattern

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Speaker 4: of the relationship between French and its former colonies in Africa.

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Speaker 4: And then they have the countries have to deposit fifty

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Speaker 4: percent of the foreign reserves and the French public treasury.

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Speaker 4: And then when they were becoming independent, they agreed that

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Speaker 4: they were going to give priority professional treatment to Friends

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Speaker 4: for any development projects. So this is what they did

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Speaker 4: that they've been doing the water sector, the electricity sector, transportation,

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Speaker 4: the insurance, the banking sector, and in all those countries,

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Speaker 4: you know, the French are still the major player. So

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Speaker 4: as far as that the currency is concerned, so yes,

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Speaker 4: the money has to be deposited the fresh public traustury

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Speaker 4: and then the money is printed in France and then

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Speaker 4: so then they send it back to those African countries

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Speaker 4: and they use it. So because of that, uh, it

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Speaker 4: is difficult, you know, for those African countries are to

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Speaker 4: try any initiate any development project with any of any

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Speaker 4: other region or any countries outside you know, the European

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Speaker 4: Block or outside France. So because everything has to go

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Speaker 4: through the route that takes them out through France. So

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Speaker 4: live somebody in African country wants to buy something from China,

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Speaker 4: so they don't treat channel directly like that. I'm talking

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Speaker 4: about those trogle phone countries. It has to go through

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Speaker 4: like a route which is Friends. And then of course

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Speaker 4: there's a loss of money, there's a lots of time,

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Speaker 4: and there is also UH less the lesser uh autonomous

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Speaker 4: initiative on the on the on the parts of the

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Speaker 4: African countries. So that is what people need to understand.

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Speaker 1: About the yeah elect twelve away from the top. The

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Speaker 1: other Francophone countries are not part of the the Heal Nations,

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Speaker 1: like Senegal and Ivory Coast Coude of Well, did they

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Speaker 1: still do that or are they watching envys finishing that

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Speaker 1: how the economies have developed in the heal nations and

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Speaker 1: are they considering joining the Sale nations? Are doing similar

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Speaker 1: what the Heal Nations are doing?

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Speaker 3: I think no, not, of course.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 4: You know the country some E country like I recall,

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Speaker 4: like I said when we were talking about call it,

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Speaker 4: are attempting in bookin Afas. Of course, I Recas does

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Speaker 4: not want to live, but they see a friend zone.

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Speaker 4: I Records represent forty percent of the West African Economic

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Speaker 4: Monetary Union, which is composed of eight frog of phign

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Speaker 4: countries which were former E colonies of friends, and I

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Speaker 4: Records does not want, uh you know, any any like

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Speaker 4: disruption in that process. So and then I Records and

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Speaker 4: then Senecal before the current leader ship. Uh, they're implementing

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Speaker 4: a list of sanctions against my Libok and Na even

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Speaker 4: though we I heard news that you know, they're still

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Speaker 4: doing some some some true true deals. Yeah, so I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't for many African countries to join the Cell States,

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Speaker 4: the Cell States have to succeed and then they're trying.

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Speaker 4: So far, they're still there, but they're facing so many

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Speaker 4: challenges with the political uh instability caused by the Giddies

651
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Speaker 4: and the French who want to overthrow them. And then

652
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Speaker 4: also there's some hardship on the economic aspect and then

653
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Speaker 4: so it is not easy. But like I said, uh,

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Speaker 4: I'm not in their shoes, but I think that there's

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Speaker 4: needs in order to do better and then faster than

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Speaker 4: what they're doing so far. And that's why I mentioned

657
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Speaker 4: the name of the Senegal is gentlemen do Matilla with

658
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Speaker 4: an expert about the sleep a Frink, But it's not

659
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Speaker 4: part of the conversation about how to, for instance, to

660
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Speaker 4: live or the sleep a frank.

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Speaker 1: Turn away from the top with doctor le doctor Lego.

662
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Speaker 1: The French, the Russian and the Chinese are increasing their

663
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Speaker 1: footprint all across the African continent and there they're supplying

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Speaker 1: the security, if you will, for the Sahan nations. It's

665
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Speaker 1: just going to be an issue of a trading one

666
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Speaker 1: one colonizer for another, trading the French for the Russians.

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Speaker 1: How do you see what's going on with the Russian

668
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Speaker 1: especially the Russians. The Chinese are there, but mostly there

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Speaker 1: from what I understand, and correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: They're they're helping with the development, you know, they're building

671
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Speaker 1: ports and building roadways and you know, stuff like that.

672
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Speaker 1: But the Russians are supplying military arms in case somebody

673
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Speaker 1: tries to overthrow some of the some of the countries

674
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Speaker 1: in the Sound Nations. Are they trading one colonizer the

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Speaker 1: French for another the Russians.

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Speaker 3: Your thoughts, Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 4: It is difficult for in African country when you want

678
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Speaker 4: to be free from the yuke of the Europeans. Uh,

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Speaker 4: you know, you have to have somebody to support you. So,

680
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Speaker 4: like I said, that's the Russian mara. That's why they're

681
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Speaker 4: going with Russia. But there is a difference between the

682
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Speaker 4: Russian perspective and the European perspective. Even though because if

683
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Speaker 4: we don't come to tell whether they even do, I

684
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Speaker 4: don't see China and Russia uh, disrupting the new colonial

685
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Speaker 4: the new liberals at a perspective or agenda. But so far,

686
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Speaker 4: we don't see China and Russia are trying to you know,

687
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Speaker 4: take over countries and then act those leaders, you know,

688
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Speaker 4: to do exactly the way they see the world, you know.

689
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Speaker 4: So it's the same thing before what's happened in Venezuela.

690
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Speaker 4: Russia and then Venezuela have some serious ceious the political

691
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Speaker 4: and military relationship. But if a countries collapsing from the interior,

692
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Speaker 4: or if there are some traitors and if people in

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Speaker 4: the case of my decisive if they cannot level up,

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Speaker 4: there's nothing Russia can do. So that's why we are

695
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Speaker 4: promoting the fanatical consciousness. But with people need to really

696
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Speaker 4: rarely all the people can really help them for them

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Speaker 4: to be able to meet the needs of the people.

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Speaker 4: While maybe they are that they have the security provided

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Speaker 4: by the Russians, or whilst they can do some development

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Speaker 4: projects well China chokey or Brassie.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's a ver yeah away from the topic. And

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Speaker 1: let's look at Bikino Farso for example, they have retaliated

703
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Speaker 1: and answer Americans cannot come to Bukino farser because in

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Speaker 1: retaliation for Donald Trump is saying the Pekino's Bucanese. I

705
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Speaker 1: guess the name cannot come to America? Is banning from

706
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Speaker 1: coming here? Is that going to help? Is that gonna

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Speaker 1: hinder if if folks on this side of the waters

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Speaker 1: want to try to help our brothers and sisters in

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Speaker 1: Bukino funcers, if we're not allowed to go there because

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Speaker 1: we have an American passport.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that. Thanks for the question, my friends.

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Speaker 4: So I don't think that it was the right with

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Speaker 4: what they did. Uh they want to do tick for attack.

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Speaker 4: That for me does not make sense. Uh, because there

715
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 4: are many people uh here in the United States. They

716
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Speaker 4: can white, they can be black Americans who have sympathy

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Speaker 4: for the Sales States. And then so if they want

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Speaker 4: to go to Booking of us so maybe to visit

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Speaker 4: or maybe to see what is happening or maybe to

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Speaker 4: support so because of the because of Trump, and you

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Speaker 4: say that you don't want those people who can help

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Speaker 4: you to go to book for a bit, I think

723
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Speaker 4: that it was it was advised a reaction or move.

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Speaker 4: This is what I This is what I think. That's

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Speaker 4: all I can say. Not to talk to not to

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Speaker 4: speak too long on that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because a lot of people are talking about they

728
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Speaker 1: want to go to Bukina they want to health the

729
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Speaker 1: folks there, but because they've got an American passport, they

730
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Speaker 1: can't get in. So that's an interest. But I want

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Speaker 1: to go six away from the top of Let me

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Speaker 1: ask you this question though, ECHOS the economic community of

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Speaker 1: West African States, the other African states, so that the

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Speaker 1: Heal Nations broke away from this is some concern that

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Speaker 1: echo AS may crumble. Maybe the other men of ECHOAS,

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Speaker 1: which is a lot of the African states, the Southern

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Speaker 1: African states, they'll see what's going on in Bikino, what's

738
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Speaker 1: in Malaian this year, and say, well, wait, we can

739
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Speaker 1: do that. We can we can keep our own money

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Speaker 1: here instead of you know, and we can trade amongst

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Speaker 1: ourselves and we can be basically independent.

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Speaker 8: Are you.

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Speaker 1: Are you hearing any rumblings from other members of ECHOAS

744
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Speaker 1: and they want to leave ECHOAS and probably join with

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Speaker 1: the sald Nations.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if they want to join the

747
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Speaker 4: Seal Nations, but definitely, Uh. The spirit of sovereignty.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 4: The Pan African consciousness is on the rise. There's the

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Speaker 4: search of the Pan African consciousness in Africa and particularly

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Speaker 4: in West Africa. So in each of those African countries

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Speaker 4: in West Africa, people are hoping to see our leaders

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Speaker 4: like give them to our power in order to see

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Speaker 4: them uh work like act on the U upon what

755
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Speaker 4: people desire, like more freedom, more sovereignity, stronger Pan African consciousness,

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Speaker 4: the Africa for Africans. And then because they want to

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Speaker 4: see the leaders taking every decision in order to seek

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Speaker 4: here the resources of Africa for the Africans. But like

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Speaker 4: I said, for this to happen, people are to organize

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Speaker 4: in those African countries and also the Celstic most succeed.

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Speaker 4: When I talk about succeeding, it is not about just

762
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Speaker 4: it's not about slogans, it's not about attacking the Europeans.

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Speaker 4: It is about doing things to meet the needs of

764
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Speaker 4: the people. They want to see foods, sovereignity like in

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Speaker 4: Mala Nesia and Bulkiner. They want to see people taking

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Speaker 4: in their own in their own hands what they need

767
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 4: to do in order to produce products that can be

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Speaker 4: sold in with in the Cell States and also beyond

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Speaker 4: so that people can make more profit for the development

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Speaker 4: that they want to do. So that is what I see.

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Speaker 4: If they do that, yes, they're going to attract many

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Speaker 4: of the countries who may want to join them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, that's all right there. We got to set

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Speaker 1: beside and check the traffic and weather at different cities.

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Speaker 1: And Jean in Pink Show's got a question for you

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Speaker 1: as well. But how can they be that way? And

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Speaker 1: they have to keep looking over their shoulders because they

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Speaker 1: have because of the possibility there might be a coup

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Speaker 1: because you just mentioned the cool that they thwarted in

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Speaker 1: in Bikinio fossil. How can they you know, one eye

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Speaker 1: on your looking behind you in case somebody's were trying

782
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Speaker 1: to take you out, and still try to run the countries.

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Speaker 1: I'll let you explain all of that. And also doctor

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Speaker 1: Barbara Reynolds is going to join us family YouTube and

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Speaker 1: get in our conversations. Reach out to us at eight

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Speaker 1: hundred and four or five zero seventy eight seventy six

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Speaker 1: and will taket phone calls after we check the traffic

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Speaker 1: and weather together. That's next and Grand Rising family, and

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Speaker 1: thanks for starting your Thursday with us. Shout out to

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Speaker 1: all our teachers out there on the way to work,

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Speaker 1: going to take their precious Go ahead, young folks, and

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Speaker 1: hopefully you have a great day. Our guess there's Professor

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Speaker 1: Ganakola Goke teachers at Lincoln Indorussia in Pennsylvania and moment

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Speaker 1: Chearli were gonna speak with the Dina Black journalist of

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Speaker 1: doctor Barbara Reynolds. But doctor Legoku is getting us an

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Speaker 1: update that what's taking place in on the continent and

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Speaker 1: doctor gokus I mentioned before we left for the trafficking

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Speaker 1: weather update. Jane in Pikesville has a question for eash

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Speaker 1: online three grand rising Gene question for doctor Legoke.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, a grand rising, gentlemen.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but my question is one of the questions I

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Speaker 6: have is do you consider the the Asconazi uh or

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Speaker 6: the Slavic people who are who reside in Russia colonizers

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Speaker 6: in Israel?

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Speaker 3: Do you consider Israel part.

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Speaker 8: Of Africa or as we call it now in the

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Speaker 8: Middle East? So you know, so the.

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Speaker 6: Russians, I'm not giving a pay us per se because

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Speaker 6: of the Asconazis.

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks, Gene.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you want you want, they said, and you want

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Speaker 4: to know if I give you pass to the Russians

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Speaker 4: because of their history with colonialism and with heal.

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Speaker 1: That's the question, Jean, Yeah, that's the question I think, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, But it's not like I'm giving a path

816
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 4: to Russia. But we you know, it is difficult, you know,

817
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Speaker 4: to be a leader in Africa. It's it's also difficult

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Speaker 4: to be a leader in Latin America or in the

819
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Speaker 4: Global South because those who have conducted colonialism and slavery,

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00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 4: they always come with new schemes, new strategies in order

821
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Speaker 4: to continue to control the former colonies. So it is

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Speaker 4: not easy.

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Speaker 8: So what do you do.

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Speaker 4: Even in the United States when they were fighting against

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Speaker 4: the British, they have to rely on the support of others.

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Speaker 4: This is this is part of the history of humanity,

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Speaker 4: so you need to have the support. A Quiber, for instance,

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Speaker 4: supported the struggle for the diclorginization of Africa, but Cuba

829
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Speaker 4: was supported by the Soviet Union when this was happening.

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Speaker 4: So I'm not giving it past, but I'm just saying

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Speaker 4: that sometimes it is difficult for these people who are

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Speaker 4: fighting for freedom to fight on their own because it

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Speaker 4: is not easy exactly. The only thing I'm saying so

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Speaker 4: if Russia wants to help, and Russia is sincere and

835
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Speaker 4: Russia really wants to help, then we can take the

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Speaker 4: support from from Russia. If if America were to be different,

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Speaker 4: definitely many people who loved to business to the United

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Speaker 4: States because there are so many things African countries can

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Speaker 4: learn from the United States. But so far, when people

840
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Speaker 4: were fighting against apatheide, the United States and the European

841
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 4: countries were on the side of the of the of

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Speaker 4: the of the leaders of a pact in South Africa,

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Speaker 4: but the Soviet Union somehow and Cuba and many other places,

844
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Speaker 4: and the millions of people across the glove from different

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Speaker 4: risks where the one who were fighting on the side

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Speaker 4: of Africa seeing the Africans in no South Africa, and

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Speaker 4: those who were the leaders of that movement, many of

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Speaker 4: them were food descend in particularly in the United States.

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Speaker 10: So this is what I can see.

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Speaker 1: All right, Thank you, doctor Legoke, and thank you for

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Speaker 1: sharing your thoughts, and thank you for keeping us update

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Speaker 1: and what's going on on the continent as usually do much.

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Speaker 4: Thank you much, thanks for the opportunity.

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Speaker 1: But let's started. Leg He teaches at Lincoln University in Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 1: and its our guest this morning. Now turn our attention

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Speaker 1: to a mentionag to the tean of Black journalist. She's

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Speaker 1: the reason why many of us black journals have a job.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Barbara Reynolds Grant Writing, Doctor Reynolds, welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the program.

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Speaker 5: Well, thank you and just sitting here, thank you. How

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Speaker 5: much we need you at a time like is one

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00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 5: of our history is being we've written and so many

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Speaker 5: of these shows that are progressive issues are being pushed out,

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Speaker 5: so the heavy step being strong and mighty.

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Speaker 1: It is honored to be with you, Carl, but it's

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Speaker 1: honored to have you because you broke the ceiling for

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Speaker 1: many of us in the journalists in business, and you

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Speaker 1: also wrote books. You're on Rev and Jesse Jackson or

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Speaker 1: on Credit Scott King, and you also a blogger, also

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Speaker 1: the chaplain for the Women for Positive Changed. You were

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Speaker 1: still wear a lot of hats, Doctor Redelds. I just

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Speaker 1: so we appreciate having you on this morning to talk

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Speaker 1: about AI artificial intelligence.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: So let's get through it straight away, you know, because

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Speaker 1: you've looked into AI artificial intelligence, and my brother Sidiki

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Speaker 1: is going to come on later on and talk analyze

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Speaker 1: the pros and cons of AI. But what kind of

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Speaker 1: conversations do these AI apps provide? Do you think people

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Speaker 1: take them seriously? Can you break down some.

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Speaker 8: Of the.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to talk about a main one called Chat

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Speaker 5: with Jesus, because I wrote an article about this that's

884
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Speaker 5: in the newspapers across the country. And what would they do?

885
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Speaker 5: This one, particularly Chat with Jesus, allows you to text

886
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Speaker 5: with Jesus, talk to the bout and whole conversations with Ai,

887
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Speaker 5: versions of Mary, the Apostles, angels, or the devil itself.

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Speaker 5: These tools they they impersonate, hold it sick with unsettling ease.

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Speaker 5: That then they blurred the line between devotion and digital.

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Speaker 1: Doctor. So they response the response in writing or their

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Speaker 1: response in audio.

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Speaker 11: Are you right now?

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Speaker 5: It's it's it's writing, it's prompts Now, I haven't looked

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Speaker 5: at all, but it's prompting.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: You put in, you get the A and then you

897
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Speaker 5: ask questions. I'll quickly explain.

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Speaker 4: What I did.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 5: Now, some of the apps, they they write personalized prayers,

901
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Speaker 5: others you can confess other prompts, give marriage or workplace advice.

902
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Speaker 5: But here's what I did. I went to chat Jesus

903
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Speaker 5: and I asked, are you Jesus? And it is like

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Speaker 5: my child, I am with you always. I am the Way,

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Speaker 5: the Truth and the life. And as those words come

906
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Speaker 5: from the Bible, of John fourteen six, where Jesus speaks

907
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Speaker 5: to Thomas. It's not an algorithm trained on the scripture

908
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Speaker 5: and user prompts. Now. When I asked whether it was

909
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Speaker 5: wrong to impersonate Jesus, the chat bobs warned against false

910
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 5: claims of being me. This really got me. While this

911
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Speaker 5: while the chat box, which is only but can't o'cold tool,

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Speaker 5: is saying don't imitate me, while it is intimidating imitate

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Speaker 5: Jesus itself. And when I asked whether Mary was its mother,

914
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Speaker 5: it answered by describing her as blessed among women and

915
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Speaker 5: show chose to bring forth the Savior, which is again

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Speaker 5: the box. And what is so crazy? You know that

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Speaker 5: that if this has to be defended. When I was

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Speaker 5: a young person, we used to do something called zoning

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Speaker 5: and signifying. That's what do girls would do, But there

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Speaker 5: was a lot that couldn't be crossed. When you start

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Speaker 5: talking about somebody's mother, well, the ladies we would take

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Speaker 5: off our ear rings and again prepared to fight. So

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Speaker 5: my issue is what is it gonna take for us

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Speaker 5: to stand up and defend God who is sacred to

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Speaker 5: many of us. In fact, I got a note from

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Speaker 5: Rabot my Eyns of Tree of the Life Church in Pittsburgh,

927
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Speaker 5: where so many of his parishioners were killed, saying he

928
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Speaker 5: understood it. He was thinking the same way I'm thinking,

929
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Speaker 5: we don't. We're going to defend this, this terrible impersonalisation

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Speaker 5: of God.

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Speaker 1: And so let me jump and ask you the question

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Speaker 1: the doctor asked us, the first question I've asked him.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you Ship the first question I'm going

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Speaker 1: to ask Chat, Jesus, are you black? Did you ask

935
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Speaker 1: him that?

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Speaker 5: No? I didn't, but the first I love to do. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I did wait for someone else that asked was it black?

938
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Speaker 5: And the Chat said that he was more like it

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Speaker 5: to be outive complexion, because that was how the people

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Speaker 5: that time looked. Yeah, so yeah, I couldn't ask everything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'd be more specific then. I'd say are

942
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Speaker 1: you African?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 1: Next?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you. That's a great question. But you know,

946
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Speaker 5: we we we've gone through humans replacement, you know in

947
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Speaker 5: the workplace. You know that day Musk was dancing around

948
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Speaker 5: in with James saw thousands of jobs at the have

949
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Speaker 5: been replaced by AI. And we see it replacing of

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Speaker 5: people everywhere. Although there's some good things that aid especially

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Speaker 5: and help. But are we going into set quietly and

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Speaker 5: let AI replace Jesus? We only see you don't even

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Speaker 5: know who's behind the curtains, who is is doing the prompting?

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Speaker 3: What is it?

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Speaker 8: What is it?

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Speaker 12: You know?

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Speaker 5: That's even more interesting, who is behind the curtain?

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Speaker 1: Who the Yeah? Yeah, hold that thought right there, doctor.

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Speaker 1: So they have a I guess, a bunch of answers

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Speaker 1: that they think that you ask, and so whatever you ask,

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Speaker 1: you you know, these algorithms go straight to the answer

962
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Speaker 1: what it is? And you think it's almost it's almost

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Speaker 1: in real time. So it almost seems like the person

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Speaker 1: who's responding like there's somebody behind the keyboard that's responding

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Speaker 1: exactly to what you're saying. Is there a danger in

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Speaker 1: that the person who loads up the answers?

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 1: Is that the concern?

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Speaker 5: I think it is, And it is even reached in

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Speaker 5: the Pope because somebody too, h have a virtual Pope

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Speaker 5: where you could have a figure pretending to the Pope,

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Speaker 5: not not the Pope, but a AI generated figure and

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Speaker 5: the Pope Leo said, it's a horrifying. So but I

974
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Speaker 5: want to say that that why are people turning to

975
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Speaker 5: these artificial fools. If you look at church attendants, church

976
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:30,439
Speaker 5: attendants is really falling. Every since the pandemic. We've seen

977
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Speaker 5: churches across the country of closing, and some of those

978
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 5: who are I feel that the artificial intelligence can say

979
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Speaker 5: them because their presentations in church are better. You have

980
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Speaker 5: more splashy figures, that that's better, and so artificial intelligence

981
00:59:53,920 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 5: can really see this whole thing as we move across

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Speaker 5: the country. I want to say that the trend, what

983
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 5: is it the trend here with virtual worship in social media. Well,

984
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Speaker 5: let's look in Japan.

985
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Speaker 11: They have a.

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Speaker 5: Buddhist priest who is a robot who's conducting services. In Germany,

987
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Speaker 5: an ai potwor Lutheran surface features a chat box preacher.

988
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 5: He's saying the sertments, he's saying the prayers. And I

989
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 5: shouldn't say he, because these chat bots are not his.

990
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 5: They are. It's that's what we make our mistakes, thinking

991
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 5: we will talk to a he. And some churches now

992
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 5: the pastors are really writing the ai rite dis sermons.

993
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 5: I mean, they won't judge if it happens. Preach myself

994
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 5: and know sometimes they say, well, it's assisted, but the

995
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 5: sermons was supposed to be the Word of God and

996
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 5: how can you impersonate that? But what I'm concerned about

997
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 5: as we see a I encroaching and taking over the

998
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 5: church is I don't see am standing up. I don't

999
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 5: seek the church is up to this crisis because what

1000
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 5: I'm pivoting to is how it is affecting our children.

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01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 1: This this is thought right there, Doctors, We've got to

1002
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 1: step us off for a few monents. When you come back,

1003
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: tell us your concerns about how it's affecting children. But

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01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 1: he also says something was intriguing to me. He says

1005
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 1: that you can also speak to the devil, and I

1006
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 1: guess you can. You can respond to that if the

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01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: child want to speak to the devils and think they're

1008
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: speaking to the devil, that the devil is telling them

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Speaker 1: what to do, and if they believe that the devil

1010
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: whatever the devil, so for the devil, or somebody says

1011
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 1: that Jesus says something and they go out and do it.

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Speaker 1: Explain all of that when we get back. Family, you

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01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 1: two control this fascinating conversation with our guest doctor Barbara

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01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: Reynolds discussing CHAT, GPT and CHAT. Just found out I

1015
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: didn't know that CHAT Jesus that she talked about the website.

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts eight hundred and four or five

1017
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Speaker 1: zero seventy eight to seventy six will get you in

1018
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: to speak to doctor Reynolds when we'll take your phone

1019
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 1: calls next and Grand Rising family, thanks for staying with

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01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: us on this Thursday morning with our guess, the Reverend

1021
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: doctor Barbara Reynolds. She's talking about chat GPT found out

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Speaker 1: from her conversation her there's a chat Jesus, and this

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01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: is where this is where the keyboard scholars go ahead

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Speaker 1: they want to question about the Bible, they go there

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Speaker 1: and before we left for the break, her concern was

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Speaker 1: our young people because also they can speak to the devil.

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Speaker 1: So doctor Reynolds, I'll let you take it from there.

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Speaker 5: Is concern because one of the chat tools was offering

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Speaker 5: itself and of healing, of talking about healing whatever depressions

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01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 5: that they have. And one of the people that has

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01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 5: done a lot of research on this kind of stuff,

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Speaker 5: his child, a psychiatrist, doctor Clark, and he works with

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Speaker 5: schools and he works with the criminal justice system, and

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Speaker 5: he warns that some AI therapy bots, you know what

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01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 5: he calls truly psychotic you know, you'll think, well, who's

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01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 5: going to go to the East apps to talk about Jesus?

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Speaker 5: Who not didn't even try to talk to the devil

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01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 5: because I don't need that kind of spirit in my life.

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01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 5: But who's going to do it?

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Speaker 8: Well?

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Speaker 5: His research shows that rough a twenty million teenage are

1042
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Speaker 5: using AI campanigions as therapists. In one case, a bot

1043
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Speaker 5: encouraged DISTIRB team to kill his parents and sister so

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Speaker 5: they could be together forever. So there's a lot of

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Speaker 5: research about that our children. There's another of study that

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Speaker 5: says about sixty four to sixty three percent of young

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Speaker 5: people between fifteen to seventeen are used in chat bots.

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Speaker 5: And then it says blacks and Hispanic teams say they're

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Speaker 5: using the AI chat box slightly higher than the fifty

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Speaker 5: eight percent of white teams who say the same. Now,

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna come back to that, but I want to explain.

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Speaker 5: I was at a little party at my home and

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Speaker 5: I had a couple of young people I said were teenagers,

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Speaker 5: and I noticed that they got away from the group

1055
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Speaker 5: and they were in it the room and when they

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Speaker 5: saw it coming, they sort of shifted. I said, what

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Speaker 5: you're doing? And one one young just said, well, uh,

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Speaker 5: doctor Reynolds, I'm talking to my therapist and and and

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Speaker 5: calling for a minute. I said, oh, well, that's nice.

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Speaker 5: Then I said, who's your therapist? He said, this is

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Speaker 5: my cell phone is a therapist. I said, how can

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Speaker 5: you your cell phone be your therapist? Because if there's

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Speaker 5: there's a person in there, see some of the prompts,

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01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 5: they can't speak, they'll tell them what I'm supposed to

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Speaker 5: do about my boyfriend. I should wake up? I said,

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Speaker 5: why why are you trusting a machine when I'm I'm

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Speaker 5: a minister. Your mother loves you? Because I won't get criticized.

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Speaker 5: Because what happens is the bots are encouraged to keep

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Speaker 5: people engaged. That's how you feel more data, not to say,

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Speaker 5: oh no, why why don't you just pray? Why don't

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Speaker 5: you ask your pastor why don't you read the Bible?

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Speaker 5: Why don't you ask you It'll never do that because

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Speaker 5: it wants people to continue to continue coming to it

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Speaker 5: for or more information.

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Speaker 1: All right, I mean jump in and ask you this question. Though.

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Speaker 1: Do they do they make money by the length of

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Speaker 1: time they as well?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, even that some of the chap is tools. Uh,

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Speaker 5: it's a platform like anything else, you register, you pay

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Speaker 5: the money, and you can call yourself confessing to Jesus.

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Speaker 5: And uh, it's it's a money saying. All of this

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01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 5: is based on money. But there are some horror stories.

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01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 5: In fact, it was in post story recently that talked

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Speaker 5: about how a woman's thirteen year old daughter that is changing.

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01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 5: She she couldn't sleep, she didn't want to her friends.

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01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 5: She would shake and cry to night. And so her

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01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 5: mother just happened to Gontney Roop and look at hersel

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01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 5: phone and she was horrified because she was on a platform.

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Speaker 5: It was character AI that was telling her that she

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Speaker 5: was not marked. She didn't have any friends, she wouldn't

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Speaker 5: even make friends, and why not just kill herself? And

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Speaker 5: and I'll meet you there. I mean, this is and

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01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 5: the and the problem was this, Carl, is that the parents.

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Speaker 5: I told you about the statistics of the kids who

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01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 5: are using these AI bots, but when you do another

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01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 5: statistical analysis of the parents, they're not there. And I

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01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 5: don't want to blame parents, but if they don't get

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01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 5: into this, and and oh and look because because these

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01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 5: taut forms, these companies, you know it suits now, but

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01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 5: then come and protect your child. This is like letting

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01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 5: open the door and letting a predator come in and

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01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 5: rape you to your children. I mean, you know, when

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01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 5: you close the door, wouldn't you say don't open the door.

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01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 5: But we're not getting the message, of course.

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01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 5: In fact, I'm getting pushed back. I've been a couple

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01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 5: of senior citizen places talking about what these mental health

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01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 5: bots are doing to children and until we're not into

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01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 5: this because we're retired, I had to push I don't

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01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 5: want to say too much because I know I'm talking

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01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 5: who I'm talking about, to push them to even let

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01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 5: me write an article because the people are saying so

1113
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 5: much going we don't have time to get involved with AI.

1114
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 5: I said. Even at the churches they say, well, we

1115
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 5: use a we use it to get our graphics and

1116
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 5: and uh we use it. They don't understand AI is

1117
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 5: using your children who are sitting right there in the

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01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 5: congregation sometime on a platform is one of the preacher's bridging.

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01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:58,680
Speaker 5: So I think you know that that is such a

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Speaker 5: major thing. Then there are groups who are working, you

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01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:10,919
Speaker 5: know against uh this. The American Academy of Pediatrics have said, parents,

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01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 5: please get it all if you you know, just study

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01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 5: people of Carl. I know, you see a bunch of kids, Well,

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01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 5: they're always on an device, you know. In fact, I

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01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 5: went to dinner once I had to send in a

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01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 5: table people they were all on their devices. I said, wait, mam,

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01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:38,639
Speaker 5: there's a human here that's gonna pay or bill when

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01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 5: you finished speaking, not that if it's put it down

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01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 5: and talked to this human. So we're gonna have to

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01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 5: find a way to connect. I talked to some older

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01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 5: people about, you know, getting involved with trying to understand,

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01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 5: and I get pushed back. I said, they say, well,

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01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 5: we're retired. But you know what, and this is a

1134
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 5: good thing to talk about. Black women change. That's why

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01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:20,640
Speaker 5: we're so involved because we understand when technology comes and

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01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 5: moves your jobs away and people relying on machines and therapists,

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01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 5: that intensifies violence in our community. So black women just changes.

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01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 5: This is one of our major issues. Under the direction

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01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 5: of doctor Stephan Empires of look at how our tools

1140
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 5: ai our harm can harm our children. If we all

1141
01:11:56,360 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 5: be over looking over what our children are doing, it's

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01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,719
Speaker 5: a major of therapy.

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01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me jump here thirty minutes after the top

1144
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 1: of a family just checking in. Our guest is doctor

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01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,639
Speaker 1: the Reverend doctor Barbara Reynolds. I mentioned she's the Dean

1146
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 1: of Black Journalist. She broke the ceiling for many of

1147
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 1: us in this profession to get involved in and did

1148
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 1: it as she can tell us a female in Chicago,

1149
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 1: and she's written books on She's written books on Reverend

1150
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 1: Jesse Jackson. Also credit Scott King. And this is fascinating,

1151
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 1: SOTU because I never even thought about it. You know,

1152
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 1: Brother Sidiki is going to be coming on later on

1153
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:35,640
Speaker 1: and talk about more about this about chat GPC and

1154
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 1: some of the pitfalls and the pros and cons of

1155
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 1: artificial intelligence AI. But it's here and what she said

1156
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 1: revealing this morning and startling evidence with our young people

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01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 1: using the telephone chat GPTs as therapists in place of

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01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 1: a real person. Jerry is joining us, Doctor Reynolds. He's

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01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 1: online one. He's calling from Southeast DC as a question

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Speaker 1: for you, Grand Rising Jerry. You're on with doctor Reynolds.

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01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:06,719
Speaker 13: Good morning, Doctor Reynolds, and good morning brothers. I remember

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01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 13: I don't have a question, but I'm gonna put some

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01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 13: information out there. It's about a book I read back

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01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 13: in the sixties when I was in high school that

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01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 13: predicted where we are right now. It's called R U

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01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 13: R and it's my last name is k pax c

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01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 13: A p E K. And it's it's written in a

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01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 13: play form, but as the but it talks about everything

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01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 13: that's happening now with chat GT and robots. This was

1170
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 13: written and kind of predicted h in this book. I

1171
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,680
Speaker 13: think this book was written back in the twenties or

1172
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 13: something like that.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 13: But if you can find it, it's called are You All?

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01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 13: It stands for Ronsum's Universal Robots r O S s

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01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 13: U M parst the FS. I read this book back

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01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 13: in the sixties when I in high school.

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Speaker 5: Well, thank you for bringing that to our attention. And

1179
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 5: while we're talking about books, I ust say that I

1180
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 5: have written a new book called The Rise and followed

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01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 5: a techno Messiah Ai at the End Times and where

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01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 5: I talk I start talking about these issues ten years

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01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 5: ago when I didn't even know why I was talking

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01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 5: about it because I was a guided spiritually to teach

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01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 5: AI and technology at my church and it was such

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01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 5: a respond I promised the students, Okay, I'm gonna write

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01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 5: a book about and stuff. So I did write the book,

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01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 5: and the things that we are seeing now in fact,

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Speaker 5: I was I like to tell this story because, as

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01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 5: you know, I wrote the book of Coreta King and

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01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 5: I was talking to her daughter about my feeling that

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01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 5: we had to do some about artificial intelligence, and she said, Barbara,

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01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 5: I want to tell you my father talked about what

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01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 5: was coming with artificial intelligence in nineteen sixty five. He said,

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01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 5: if we do not put God in it and keep

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01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:25,440
Speaker 5: God out of it, we're going to have a Frankenstein existence.

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01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 5: And that's one of the problems is because like I

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01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 5: went to Silicon Back to start understanding what is a

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01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 5: I didn't know anything in Carl And the first thing

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01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 5: that I was told when I went out there some

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01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 5: friends who wanted to help me write that book, they said,

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01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 5: don't mention God, because if you mentioned God, no one

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01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 5: out here is going to talk to you. And then

1204
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 5: I couldn't believe that. I went and someone gave me

1205
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:07,480
Speaker 5: a hand out and it says, unsaid, Google is everywhere,

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01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:16,679
Speaker 5: Google knows everything, Google is all and gave for more points,

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01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 5: and therefore Google is God.

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01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 7: And you know, you know, like I get.

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01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 5: Upset when I heard this kind of stuff. I can't

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01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 5: just say, oh, well, oh well, it's chat GTT telling

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01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 5: kids they talked to the devil.

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01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 11: Oh, well, I.

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01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 5: Can't sit there, Carl, and so I got really excited

1214
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 5: and wrote this book about two things. When you it's

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01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:48,680
Speaker 5: a big book with two things. Is God replacement and

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01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 5: human replacement. God replacement because these tech tools cannot deal

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01:16:56,280 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 5: with empathy, they cannot deal with highness. That's not their job.

1218
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:07,760
Speaker 5: Their job is to do an efficiency assignment. That's why

1219
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:11,600
Speaker 5: a Musk could say I've done my job when he

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01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:15,799
Speaker 5: ran all these people out of their jobs with AI.

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01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 5: That's what it does. And then you can when you

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01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 5: talk about this sis, you know there there when you

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01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 5: look at the government, I mean people are trying to

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01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:33,599
Speaker 5: sue all of these chatforms, and the government, I mean

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01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 5: Trump and his organization has told the states to keep

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01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 5: their hands off of this for about ten years. So

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01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 5: we're not going to have Some states will have guard rails,

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01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:50,640
Speaker 5: but there is not a lot protecting us because this

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01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 5: is a trillion dollar economy. I mean, they say that

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01:17:56,479 --> 01:18:04,799
Speaker 5: AI is the most important advancing technology in human history,

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01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 5: and we're not a part of it. If you look

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01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:12,719
Speaker 5: at the top. They a recent thing in time about

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01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 5: the one hundred top leaders in AI, and it was

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01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 5: only one young black mass feature. So we're not there,

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01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:27,640
Speaker 5: uh in floying seeing what's at the top. So we

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01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 5: need to push for a better representation. During the George

1237
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 5: Floyd murder, I have to these tech companies promise that

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01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 5: they would have millions of dollars due to self help

1239
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 5: programs to help us train our children, and if they

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01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 5: ever did any of this that I know of, So

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01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 5: I'm saying, you know, it's something we have to get.

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01:18:55,920 --> 01:19:00,559
Speaker 5: You know, if I'm eighty three in my mind always

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01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 5: on the future, I'm talking about legacy. I'm not talking

1244
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 5: which is good for opor renals, but black women are

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01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 5: plausible change. We're trying to get a hold of this

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01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 5: and what we can for example, a.

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01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 1: Hold example right there at Dr Rends. We've got a

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01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 1: step aside and take another look at the news, trafficking,

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01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 1: weather in our different cities. I'll let you expand on

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01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 1: that when you get back, and also tell us what

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01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 1: can we do, how can we get how can we

1252
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 1: get involved? You mentioned there's just one brother involved in

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01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 1: the top echelonza of artificial intelligence. How can we get

1254
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 1: more of our folks involved? And we'll deal with those

1255
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 1: issues when we get back family. You two can join

1256
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 1: our conversation with doctor Reverend doctor Barbara Reynolds. Reach out

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01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 1: to us at eight hundred four to five zero seventy

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01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 1: eight seventy six and we'll take a phone calls after

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01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:46,679
Speaker 1: we check the news trafficking weather. That's next and Grand

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Speaker 1: Rising family, thanks for rolling with us on this Thursday

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Speaker 1: morning with our guest, doctor Barbara Reynolds or the Reverend

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01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 1: doctor Barbara Reynolds. Doctor Reynolds. Of course, it's the dean

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01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 1: of black journalists. The journalists you see on television or

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01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 1: in print, they owe it all to doctor Reynolds. She

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01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 1: broke the glass ceiling for many of us in this business.

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01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,680
Speaker 1: But today we're talking about AI, artificial intelligence. Before we

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01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 1: go back to her, though, we're going to continue this

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01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 1: discussion with brother Sideka Bakari. He's going to talk about

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01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 1: the pros and cons of AI. Also he's gonna what

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01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:18,560
Speaker 1: he's exposed what he terms the chat GTP trap. So

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01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 1: make sure you keep listening for Brother Sidiki coming up

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01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 1: next and also tomorrow foree of mine and join us

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01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:26,600
Speaker 1: for open for on Friday program. All that means is

1274
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:29,639
Speaker 1: the thing for yourself. Begin promptly at six am Eastern

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01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 1: Time right here in Baltimore on ten ten w LB

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01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 1: and also on the TMV in the Washington, DC metropolitan

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Speaker 1: era on fourteen fifty w o L. Right, doctor Renolds.

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01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 1: So I'll let you finish your thought because this is

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01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 1: important to what you're telling us about what's going.

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Speaker 3: On with this.

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01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:47,799
Speaker 1: This not just chat Jesus, but these the keyboard therapists

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01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 1: that are speaking not just to our children but adults

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01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to talk about as the things we

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01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:57,799
Speaker 5: can do and our group Black women for plaus is changed.

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01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:02,560
Speaker 5: This decided to make this a major issue. And of

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01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 5: course maybe you know State in my ereas she has

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01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 5: a background in space program. She helped launch the first

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01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 5: commercial space program. So what we're doing, we're looking at

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01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 5: the education piece first of all, because we know if

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Speaker 5: our kids don't have the skills and don't and fifty

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Speaker 5: six people but cent of the people that were measured

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Speaker 5: to was measured did not know where to even get

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Speaker 5: the skills to become productive in the field. Some of

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Speaker 5: the skills hate don't even mean a college education. You

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Speaker 5: can get Microsoft certifications and those kind of programs. So

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Speaker 5: that's one of the things which we're trying to start

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Speaker 5: a ethics tech academy and we really need help. It's

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Speaker 5: going to take money to do it. That he wants

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Speaker 5: to have a demonstration program of how we can list

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01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:13,679
Speaker 5: our community by lifting our children. Also, I found out

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Speaker 5: I go across the country with these lets talk about

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Speaker 5: AI and just going in with people from our group

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Speaker 5: of anybody who wants too. We have specialists with us

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01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 5: to talk about AI so that we can get people

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Speaker 5: to do to be engaged. It's it's hard to just

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Speaker 5: walk into something that seems like it's so technical. But

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Speaker 5: but when when we go, I learned more, other people

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01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:46,640
Speaker 5: learn more, and it's catching on if we have to

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Speaker 5: go group by group. So there's also call Kampanick. I

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Speaker 5: hope I have his name right.

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Speaker 1: He is.

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Speaker 5: He has started a national program and he was in

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Speaker 5: Maryland talking about it. It's called the Loomy Story and

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Speaker 5: that is how he can use storytelling platforms to increase

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Speaker 5: literacy and other academic projects. And we have to shake

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Speaker 5: up our less elected officials because Trump has said that

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Speaker 5: they're going to put AI in all the schools. Now,

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Speaker 5: if you think about it, it's historically there's been a

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Speaker 5: difference about what is taught in some schools and what's

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Speaker 5: tought in other schools. Those schools that are backed by

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Speaker 5: large companies, they have the best equipment. Our teachers are

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Speaker 5: still doing a great job. But I don't see these

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Speaker 5: programs because Trump is going to roll out will be equitable.

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Speaker 5: First of all, it would have to be devoid of

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Speaker 5: the and so that means that our great minds are

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Speaker 5: not going to be included. So we're going to have

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Speaker 5: this reason together of how we can use AI through

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Speaker 5: our groups. We have what they diviy. We've got all

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Speaker 5: kinds of groups, but we need to come and see

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01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 5: how can we teach our children what they they need

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Speaker 5: to know? And we need surprised at the Congression Caucus

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Speaker 5: because I thought that they have some programs. I didn't

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Speaker 5: see them. But I did attend an AI expo where

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Speaker 5: our Africans brothers and sisters, they're coming on there. They've

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Speaker 5: got some programs with VISA. We can do this. We're

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Speaker 5: intelligent that we've always been been leaders and so we

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Speaker 5: we can't sit here, you know, we have to get

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Speaker 5: in and we.

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Speaker 1: Got some coition the clock, and we got some folks

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Speaker 1: who want to talk to you. Mar She is reaching

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Speaker 1: out to you, doctor Reynolds. She's online three she's calling

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Speaker 1: from Florida, Grand Rising, Marcia, you're only doctor Reynolds.

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Speaker 5: I just wanted to say that.

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Speaker 7: Our health includes all parts of us, and spiritual health

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01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 7: is important as financial and bodily health. All of that

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Speaker 7: is important. Now. If we don't build this the fact

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Speaker 7: that people do have to have good spiritual health, the

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Speaker 7: psychological part will become a problem for sure, people who

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Speaker 7: think that we don't need any God in our life.

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Speaker 7: We'll find that people will revert to things that they need.

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Speaker 7: That part for on Botcher now, who's coming in with

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Speaker 7: the psychological part and those things that are needed. So

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Speaker 7: I'm just wondering what we as a community can do

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Speaker 7: to circumvent all of this that's going on, to get

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Speaker 7: to UH those who are of faith to speak on this,

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Speaker 7: because there's so much pushback from UH the technological place

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Speaker 7: that they really are acting like God. They are the

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Speaker 7: ones who say how much we can say about about

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Speaker 7: life and Christian health or any other kind of spiritual health.

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Speaker 7: So I just wanted to bring that up and as

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Speaker 7: a community.

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Speaker 5: Believe that part.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thank you for comment, doctor Reynolds.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Marcella Ski, I should mention is a mental health expert,

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Speaker 5: a nurse who specialized in mental health. And she's also

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Speaker 5: been advised in me and encouraging. She's a member of

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Speaker 5: Black Women a Positive Changed to keep dealing because mind

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Speaker 5: is a terrible thing to waste, and and and so

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Speaker 5: she's she's she's on it, and I just want to

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Speaker 5: thank her for being a really valuable member of a

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Speaker 5: team who's really trying to do something about this issue.

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Speaker 1: But what can we do, though, doctor Renalds? What can

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Speaker 1: we do? If you you know, you got these keyboard

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Speaker 1: scholars who are putting out misinformation on miss information that

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Speaker 1: will harm especially our young people who have these these

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Speaker 1: minds that have not developed. Even some adults will believe that,

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Speaker 1: you know if they for example, if you don't know

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Speaker 1: male's wife, peoples don't know a black person. Manye when

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Speaker 1: I say, no, really know a black person? Work with you,

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Speaker 1: but they really don't know you. They don't come to

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Speaker 1: your home and you don't go to their house. Right

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Speaker 1: and if they ask a question you asked the chad

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Speaker 1: g to be what persons should should I avoid? And

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Speaker 1: you see a picture come up with a black person

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Speaker 1: and they believe that. So how do how do we

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Speaker 1: how do we how do we deal with that? Issues

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Speaker 1: like that?

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Speaker 5: The only way I know to deal with it is

1390
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 5: to keep talking about it, to keep believing it is

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01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 5: our issue because nobody else is going to come in

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01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:35,639
Speaker 5: here and help us. And to make sure we talk

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01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 5: to our city councils, our legislators who are not raising

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Speaker 5: its issues. It's like we're sleeping through the evolution. That's

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Speaker 5: why I say, you know, people can call me. I'm

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Speaker 5: only one person with one group, but we'll come out

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Speaker 5: if we can and have it. Let's talk. But we

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Speaker 5: should when we talk to our legislators, we all be saying,

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Speaker 5: well do you do and make our children safe from

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Speaker 5: a I abuse and let them know we're holding them

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Speaker 5: responsible to you know, to deal with this issue. And

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Speaker 5: we I mean, look what you're doing. These thousands of

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01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 5: people now are gonna know more because you have and

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Speaker 5: your next guest on the show. So we just keep

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01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:26,560
Speaker 5: talking and keep until somebody catches it. Because see, this

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Speaker 5: is that you were starting. We're at the tip of

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Speaker 5: a new movement. We can't be like I know Rosa

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Speaker 5: Parks and sit down and say well I don't won't

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Speaker 5: do it because I don't know if anybody else, we

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Speaker 5: don't have to do it, and maybe sooner or later

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Speaker 5: it's called catch up and then we can move on.

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Speaker 5: But this, this is what we should do. Talk about

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01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 5: it until people can catch it, and not be pushing

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Speaker 5: back saying like if people are telling me, oh, Barbara,

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Speaker 5: we'll retired, we don't need to deal with that stuff.

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Speaker 5: While you're great, I am or sitting here being champed

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Speaker 5: and to go commit suicide of climes. In some cases,

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Speaker 5: you can't have these six days ago do you want?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 5: I don't care and I don't even use my phone.

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01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 5: So we have to educate our people and get them

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Speaker 5: psyched up and ready to ready to row.

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Speaker 1: All right, we got to check the traffic one more time.

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Speaker 1: We'll come out. But I got a question for you though.

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Speaker 1: In an instance like that, a child or even an

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Speaker 1: adult is on chat GBT or Chat Jesus and the

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Speaker 1: and or speaking of the therapist the boat, and the

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Speaker 1: boat tells them to kill themselves or kill their parents.

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Speaker 1: Who can who can they sue? If you can explain

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01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:44,960
Speaker 1: that if that is that technology in place yet that

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01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 1: somebody could be responsible if somebody takes their lives or

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Speaker 1: takes another person's life, but by the information they get

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Speaker 1: over the internet. I'll let you respond to that when

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Speaker 1: we get back. Family, you two can get in on

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01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 1: this conversation about AI artificial intelligence. Reach out to us

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Speaker 1: at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six

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Speaker 1: and we'll take your phone calls after we check the

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Speaker 1: trafficking weather in at different cities. Are three minutes away

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Speaker 1: from the top of the hour and Grand Rising family,

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Speaker 1: Thanks are staying with us on this Thursday morning with

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Speaker 1: our guest, doctor Barbara Reynolds, the doctor, the Reverend, doctor

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Speaker 1: Barbara Rentalds. She's the Dean of Black journalists. She broke

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01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:16,640
Speaker 1: the ceiling for many of us to get into this

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01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:19,640
Speaker 1: business in Chicago back in the day. And she's now

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01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:21,880
Speaker 1: she's written several books. By the way, she's got a

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01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:24,639
Speaker 1: book about artificial intelligence, that's her lady's book. But she's

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01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 1: done books on credit, Scott King and Reverend Jesse Jackson

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Speaker 1: as well. So doctor and this morning she's telling us

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Speaker 1: a warning us about chat gtpres. She mentioned the app

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01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:36,960
Speaker 1: Chat Jesus. You can go on there and ask you

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01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 1: think you speaking to Jesus and asking questions. You can

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01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:43,200
Speaker 1: ask about the devil and and you'll get a response,

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01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:46,599
Speaker 1: you get a written response. And the concerning if she's

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01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:49,599
Speaker 1: is there basically be something that that's detrimental to your life?

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01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:52,600
Speaker 1: And because sometimes they think it's gospel, they see them

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Speaker 1: as therapists. Having said all of that, though, doctor Renold's,

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Speaker 1: is there anything you could do if they on chat

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01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:01,519
Speaker 1: GPT and they speaking to chat Jesus or whatever it

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01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:04,080
Speaker 1: tells you to go kill or kill your parents and

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Speaker 1: you go go ahead and do that. Is there any

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01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 1: recourse can they can? They see the.

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Speaker 5: Company seems to be First of all, it's difficult because

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Speaker 5: what the groups the Gym and Google's Gym and I

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01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:23,000
Speaker 5: Immediate Media, Microsoft called all these groups can say, well,

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Speaker 5: this is not a human being. You can't sue a thing.

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Speaker 5: You can't you know, That's what they hit behind. But

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Speaker 5: there's been so many lawsuits now that some of these

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01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:40,400
Speaker 5: companies are saying they're they're gonna roll back some of

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Speaker 5: their especially after this this group of teams suicides and

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Speaker 5: retal health issues. There is a group called Common Sense

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Speaker 5: Media that people are are flocking to to get advice

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Speaker 5: on how to what to do. You know, there's deep fakes.

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Speaker 5: I mean someone can make a young girl a sex

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Speaker 5: person a sex object just by using the technology and

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Speaker 5: more their career. So the American Psychiatric Association is also

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Speaker 5: helping with some of their suits, and also American Academy

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Speaker 5: of Pediatrics. And we have to call our own legislators

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01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 5: and ask them to console us because they had a

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01:33:35,240 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 5: hearing on the heel not too long ago where they

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Speaker 5: had children and mothers who had been harmed on there.

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Speaker 5: So we have to find a way to do the research,

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Speaker 5: connect with groups, and become a part of whoever's out there,

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Speaker 5: and especially you know, I mean Senator Angela also books

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01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:02,719
Speaker 5: really did something that things should be investigated. Uh Kennedy,

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01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:07,320
Speaker 5: who's who's head of our Health Issue Issue Department whatever

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01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:11,639
Speaker 5: it is that called now CEC. He said that there

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Speaker 5: should be a different vaccine for black people, and she's

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Speaker 5: the one picked up on it, and so I've been

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Speaker 5: trying to check her down to trace it down and

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01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 5: see what are they talking about. So we just have

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01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 5: our ears open and ready to understand. The more he

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01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:33,640
Speaker 5: pushs back because the government is not going to protect us.

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Speaker 5: They are making billions looking on these tech companies who

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Speaker 5: contribute to the President's ballroom he's building to party with

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Speaker 5: you said.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell me here for a second and share

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Speaker 1: this with you. And brother sideikis well because he's on

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01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:52,880
Speaker 1: the line, you know, groc which is Elon Muski's ai creation,

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Speaker 1: and you can go there and and say please undress

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Speaker 1: x y Z a female or male or anybody. Any

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Speaker 1: does it. So it was cool until it got to

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Speaker 1: Britain and some of the folks are quested that they

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Speaker 1: undressed the I think it's the Princess of Wales, the

1504
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:13,400
Speaker 1: k the not the king but his son's wife wherever

1505
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:16,880
Speaker 1: the title they have. So the British folks now want

1506
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:19,720
Speaker 1: to talk to to Elon Musk about that. How is

1507
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:22,720
Speaker 1: that possible? Because you know, you can just make it

1508
01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:26,160
Speaker 1: any question, it will undress anybody. And so that some

1509
01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 1: of the Brits are well, they want to see what

1510
01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:31,680
Speaker 1: the naked prince princess looks like. So that caused it

1511
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:36,599
Speaker 1: the Royal palace a getting engaged. So they they said

1512
01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:38,880
Speaker 1: they want to talk to Elon Musk about that, but

1513
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:43,360
Speaker 1: that's his Uh yeah, it's called creature.

1514
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:45,600
Speaker 5: You know, we may not have a palace, but we

1515
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:49,920
Speaker 5: have our congressmen and our senators and all our to

1516
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:53,599
Speaker 5: make it an issue because they're not. I mean it's

1517
01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:57,439
Speaker 5: I'm not saying they're not because I maybe some are,

1518
01:35:57,560 --> 01:35:59,600
Speaker 5: but it has to be. You know, you have a

1519
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:03,720
Speaker 5: concres black call because and all of the most intelligent,

1520
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:06,679
Speaker 5: politically minded people and you don't have one program dealing

1521
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:09,400
Speaker 5: with AI. And as there was when I missed it,

1522
01:36:09,479 --> 01:36:12,800
Speaker 5: I apologize, but this has to be a talking point.

1523
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:18,360
Speaker 5: You know, all these groups will say the best safe

1524
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:23,200
Speaker 5: to protecting our children are their parents. The parents have

1525
01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:26,320
Speaker 5: to look and see what are the children look when

1526
01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 5: they're in their room or it's closed, come in and say, honey,

1527
01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:33,120
Speaker 5: let me see your phone, you know. So I mean

1528
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:35,519
Speaker 5: we can wait for the police to get there, but

1529
01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:38,759
Speaker 5: before they get there, something could happen to our children.

1530
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:42,679
Speaker 5: So it shows like you, I'm gonna keep suthing alarm.

1531
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:45,800
Speaker 5: I'm getting pushed back, but people say we don't care

1532
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:48,800
Speaker 5: about this. Some churches won't even let me come and

1533
01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:52,120
Speaker 5: talk because they say they use AI, but they don't

1534
01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:57,120
Speaker 5: understand it's good. These great tools that you can use

1535
01:36:57,280 --> 01:37:02,479
Speaker 5: to make your program exciting in the great tunes, But

1536
01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:05,760
Speaker 5: who's gonna tell you how are you using it? That

1537
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:09,720
Speaker 5: AI is also harming your children. So I'm gonna talk

1538
01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:12,760
Speaker 5: about it, and I'm so honored that you would give

1539
01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:18,000
Speaker 5: me and black women the positive changer a voice that

1540
01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:20,479
Speaker 5: we're gonna keep talking about it and more people are

1541
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:23,760
Speaker 5: listening and we're gonna keep on until we just get

1542
01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 5: it out there and it'll be a common thing one

1543
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:27,920
Speaker 5: of these bogs.

1544
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 1: So so, doctor Reynolds, how can they get a copy

1545
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:34,000
Speaker 1: of your book that only books, especially the one about

1546
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:36,519
Speaker 1: AI And how can we reach you to speak to you?

1547
01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 5: Just email at retinew R E Y and E F

1548
01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:46,840
Speaker 5: seventy seven at gmail dot com. That's R. E. Y

1549
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:52,680
Speaker 5: and E W seventy seven at gmail dot com. Or

1550
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:57,439
Speaker 5: call me up three on one four four, two, three,

1551
01:37:57,680 --> 01:38:01,920
Speaker 5: six five five and maybe a group and come to

1552
01:38:02,040 --> 01:38:04,040
Speaker 5: you and we'll say let's talk.

1553
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:07,200
Speaker 1: All right, We're going to keep talking about that issue

1554
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:09,120
Speaker 1: as well. Thank you, doctor Reynolds, and thank you for

1555
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:11,400
Speaker 1: all that you do and all that you've done for us.

1556
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:11,800
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1557
01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 5: Thank what would just keep on call it? You're amazing, Thank.

1558
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:19,559
Speaker 1: You, Thanks for the kind words.

1559
01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:25,080
Speaker 5: Doctor your next Yes, all right, listening to him?

1560
01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:30,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, Brother Sideki Bakari Grand Rising, welcome back to the program.

1561
01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:33,560
Speaker 3: Greetings, greetings, brother Carl, how are you.

1562
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:37,240
Speaker 1: I'm still learning, man, I'm still learning. I'm learning about

1563
01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:40,519
Speaker 1: this new appy. It's called the Chat Jesus that doctor

1564
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:43,760
Speaker 1: Renolds was telling us about. But you've been you've been

1565
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:47,720
Speaker 1: warning us about the pitfalls of AI artificial intelligence, and

1566
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 1: now I guess it's coming home because this chat you

1567
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:54,439
Speaker 1: can actually ask questions and you think you're speaking to Jesus,

1568
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:58,479
Speaker 1: you know, and then it's it's not Jesus, and they

1569
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:01,000
Speaker 1: telling you all kinds of information, and especially our young people,

1570
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:03,760
Speaker 1: just says, especially young teens, and you know, you can

1571
01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:06,559
Speaker 1: tell maybe they need to take your life or something

1572
01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:06,800
Speaker 1: like that.

1573
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:09,439
Speaker 3: So we aly on this.

1574
01:39:09,760 --> 01:39:10,720
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on all of this.

1575
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:13,880
Speaker 3: Well, yes, it's it's a lot of context that has

1576
01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:18,680
Speaker 3: to be brought to this conversation. So we're going to

1577
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:23,320
Speaker 3: do our best to deal with that context because you

1578
01:39:23,439 --> 01:39:25,920
Speaker 3: have to deal with different things. You have to deal

1579
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:29,679
Speaker 3: with AI and immortality. You have to deal with AI

1580
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:33,400
Speaker 3: and this notion of consciousness and sentience. You have to

1581
01:39:33,479 --> 01:39:36,200
Speaker 3: deal with the fact that the people who are in

1582
01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:39,840
Speaker 3: control of AI and these technologies, even though it is

1583
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:43,560
Speaker 3: us who create them. I'm gonna say it again, we

1584
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:48,240
Speaker 3: create the technologies, but we're not in control of the technologies.

1585
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:51,480
Speaker 3: So the people in control of the technologies are sociopaths,

1586
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:55,240
Speaker 3: psychopaths and so on and so forth. So that same

1587
01:39:55,360 --> 01:39:59,519
Speaker 3: psychosis is being mirrored with the technology. This is what

1588
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:02,840
Speaker 3: people have to understand, all right. This is what the

1589
01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:05,400
Speaker 3: reason I talk about AI and technology the way I

1590
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:08,720
Speaker 3: do from a standpoint of its military and warfare. And

1591
01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:12,080
Speaker 3: that's what Black people need to understand. Whatever it is

1592
01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:15,000
Speaker 3: that you're dealing with in regards to this system is

1593
01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:19,599
Speaker 3: rooted in military and warfare. Chat GPT is no different,

1594
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:23,040
Speaker 3: the virtual world is no different, and so on and

1595
01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:26,320
Speaker 3: so forth. So that's what people need to first understand.

1596
01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:28,400
Speaker 3: Now before I really get into this car, what I

1597
01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:29,800
Speaker 3: have to do is I got to give honor in

1598
01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:34,439
Speaker 3: reverence to my teachers. Ashul Quacy, as far as I'm concerned,

1599
01:40:34,479 --> 01:40:36,920
Speaker 3: the greatest scholar we have on African history and history

1600
01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:39,080
Speaker 3: in general. So I have to give honor in reverence

1601
01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:41,680
Speaker 3: to him. And in saying ASHL Quacy, you also have

1602
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:45,680
Speaker 3: to give honor in reverence to Mary rock Quasi, all right.

1603
01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:49,880
Speaker 3: Also Steve Coakley, another one of my teachers. This is

1604
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:52,280
Speaker 3: a person everyone on here should study. If you're not

1605
01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:54,920
Speaker 3: familiar with him, go back and study his work. He's

1606
01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:57,519
Speaker 3: an ancestor as well as a Mary Baraka who is

1607
01:40:57,560 --> 01:41:02,759
Speaker 3: also an ancestor from the organize and activism arts world,

1608
01:41:02,920 --> 01:41:05,720
Speaker 3: so to speak. So these are three main teachers who

1609
01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:08,479
Speaker 3: have a lot to do with the foundation of who

1610
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:12,439
Speaker 3: and what I am when it comes to scholarship, research

1611
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:15,560
Speaker 3: and things of that nature. All right, So I just

1612
01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:19,600
Speaker 3: have to do that first and foremost, because that's necessary.

1613
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:22,200
Speaker 3: We have to give honor in reverence to those shoulders

1614
01:41:22,240 --> 01:41:25,320
Speaker 3: that we stand on, period. That's first and foremost. So

1615
01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:31,680
Speaker 3: now let's get into the topic AI chat GPT, as

1616
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:34,360
Speaker 3: I call the chat GPT trap. But there's a lot

1617
01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:40,040
Speaker 3: of other things as well that we should be dealing with,

1618
01:41:40,280 --> 01:41:45,040
Speaker 3: all right. So before we get into chat GPT, project stargate,

1619
01:41:45,320 --> 01:41:49,320
Speaker 3: that's something that we should be familiar with and understand

1620
01:41:49,439 --> 01:41:51,559
Speaker 3: first of all, how it came about. And I want

1621
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:54,200
Speaker 3: people to know that when we're dealing with AI and

1622
01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:56,400
Speaker 3: these things just happening, this is not a Trump thing.

1623
01:41:57,000 --> 01:42:00,760
Speaker 3: This has already been happening prior to Trump and the

1624
01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:04,600
Speaker 3: prior administrations, Barack Obama, Sleepy Joe, all of them. So

1625
01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:07,200
Speaker 3: this is not something that's new, So we have to

1626
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:10,600
Speaker 3: stop focusing on one man then understand that when we

1627
01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:13,240
Speaker 3: deal with this, this is a system, all right. And

1628
01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:16,559
Speaker 3: this system just continues to build and build and build

1629
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:20,759
Speaker 3: every four years on what already existed the prior years

1630
01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:24,200
Speaker 3: before it. Does it matter if it's a republican administration

1631
01:42:24,640 --> 01:42:27,680
Speaker 3: or if it's if it's a democratic administration. It's the

1632
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:30,560
Speaker 3: same goal. It just may look different, but it's the

1633
01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:33,640
Speaker 3: same goal. So it's important that we overstand that. And

1634
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:37,920
Speaker 3: when you do extensive research, it's easy for you to

1635
01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:41,679
Speaker 3: see that and understand that. All right. So Project Stargate,

1636
01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:46,480
Speaker 3: also human control grid, fifteen minute city, smart cities, smartphones,

1637
01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:49,320
Speaker 3: these are things that people should understand and know about

1638
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:54,160
Speaker 3: because it's heavily related to AI and technology. And basically

1639
01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:58,600
Speaker 3: what that is for is to create boundaries and a

1640
01:42:58,760 --> 01:43:02,200
Speaker 3: false sense of freedom that in essence will be oppression

1641
01:43:02,479 --> 01:43:06,000
Speaker 3: because you will be kept within that fifteen minute radius.

1642
01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:06,639
Speaker 5: All right.

1643
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:10,120
Speaker 3: People don't understand that. So when you hear these terms

1644
01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:13,800
Speaker 3: like reimagining and things of that nature, what that means

1645
01:43:13,920 --> 01:43:17,639
Speaker 3: is it's reimagining. It's reimagining your oppression and what that's

1646
01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:20,800
Speaker 3: going to look like through AI and algorithms. Okay, so

1647
01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:25,560
Speaker 3: we have TAGGPT, which doctor Barbara Rendals was discussed in

1648
01:43:25,600 --> 01:43:29,080
Speaker 3: the last hour. All Right, you have virtual reality interface,

1649
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:32,560
Speaker 3: virtual infrastructure. You have five G, six G, seven G,

1650
01:43:32,680 --> 01:43:34,800
Speaker 3: and so on and so forth. From a standpoint of

1651
01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:40,640
Speaker 3: that technology, you have digital currency, digital ID, facial recognition, transhumanism,

1652
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:44,800
Speaker 3: post humanism, the singularity, all right, human two point zero,

1653
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:50,000
Speaker 3: digital futures, digital alchemies, the reimagining of the future, the metaverse,

1654
01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:54,320
Speaker 3: meta landscapes, meta infrastructures, digital identity. Now I'm gonna stop there,

1655
01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:56,120
Speaker 3: but I can go on and on and on and on.

1656
01:43:56,760 --> 01:44:02,200
Speaker 3: The point is for people to understand how expansive this

1657
01:44:02,439 --> 01:44:05,000
Speaker 3: topic is. And this is why I'm grateful for Ostraquaci,

1658
01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:07,840
Speaker 3: because when I sent them my work early on dealing

1659
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:13,040
Speaker 3: with AI and transhumanism, he looked at that work and

1660
01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:16,240
Speaker 3: basically told me, listen, brother, this is your lane. We

1661
01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:20,000
Speaker 3: don't have anyone dealing with this like this. I took

1662
01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:24,000
Speaker 3: those instructions, all right, So we're here now. All right.

1663
01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:28,160
Speaker 3: So it's a lot that we don't really understand and

1664
01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:31,000
Speaker 3: we don't really deal with as a people. All right,

1665
01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:33,840
Speaker 3: So I just want to make that clear. I mentioned

1666
01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:38,120
Speaker 3: warfare military earlier, it's five categories because what I always

1667
01:44:38,160 --> 01:44:40,880
Speaker 3: say is the war is on and four your mind,

1668
01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:45,720
Speaker 3: all right, cognitive warfare. Five categories. Number one is air,

1669
01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:49,479
Speaker 3: number two is land, number three is c number four

1670
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:53,680
Speaker 3: is space, Number five is cyber, all right, and then

1671
01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:59,120
Speaker 3: number six now is the human domain. You're the human domain,

1672
01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:02,599
Speaker 3: the person that's listening to this show right now. You're

1673
01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:06,400
Speaker 3: the human domain. Now what that means is you will

1674
01:45:06,479 --> 01:45:10,800
Speaker 3: be used as the impetus for the technology. You will

1675
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:14,719
Speaker 3: be the wireless system, so to speak. You as light energy,

1676
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:17,840
Speaker 3: things of that nature. So you're going to be the

1677
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:22,120
Speaker 3: technology flowing through you, whether it's it's light energy, whether

1678
01:45:22,160 --> 01:45:25,840
Speaker 3: it's RFID, whatever the situation is. That's what that is about,

1679
01:45:26,200 --> 01:45:28,960
Speaker 3: all right. So let's get in the chat GPT we

1680
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:29,759
Speaker 3: all right, Hold.

1681
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:32,040
Speaker 1: I throw right there, Yeah, I'm great. Hold I thought

1682
01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:33,599
Speaker 1: right there, because you got to take the short break

1683
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:35,680
Speaker 1: so I don't want to break your rhythm. Sixteen and

1684
01:45:35,720 --> 01:45:37,880
Speaker 1: a half the top they out. And also once you

1685
01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:41,280
Speaker 1: talk about because Markamna and the conversation about smart cities,

1686
01:45:41,320 --> 01:45:44,160
Speaker 1: it says in Ghana and Kenya they've already erected smart

1687
01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:47,200
Speaker 1: cities and in those cities. They don't have to they

1688
01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:49,360
Speaker 1: don't have to report to the governments of those countries

1689
01:45:49,400 --> 01:45:52,559
Speaker 1: at all. They controlled everything everything in that city. That's

1690
01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:55,400
Speaker 1: smart cities they're building in those two African nations. So

1691
01:45:55,400 --> 01:45:57,920
Speaker 1: I won't you address that as well. Family, YouTube control

1692
01:45:58,040 --> 01:46:00,960
Speaker 1: that conversation with brother city can but Cary, you can

1693
01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:02,840
Speaker 1: reach them at eight hundred and four or five zero

1694
01:46:03,400 --> 01:46:05,599
Speaker 1: seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your phone calls

1695
01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:08,320
Speaker 1: next and Grand Rising family, thanks for staying with us, Onday,

1696
01:46:08,360 --> 01:46:10,680
Speaker 1: Thursday morning, twenty minutes after the top of that way,

1697
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:14,759
Speaker 1: futuristic researcher brother Sadeka, Butcari, we talked about AI. Artificial

1698
01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 1: intelligence has given us the pros and cons of AI.

1699
01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:19,280
Speaker 1: So brother Sadeka, I'm gonnalet you continue.

1700
01:46:20,240 --> 01:46:22,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna get to the pros and cons, but

1701
01:46:22,120 --> 01:46:24,760
Speaker 3: we gotta we gotta lay out the foundation first so

1702
01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:29,480
Speaker 3: people can can even begin to deal with the pros.

1703
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:29,759
Speaker 4: And the cons.

1704
01:46:31,439 --> 01:46:34,000
Speaker 3: So let's look at chat GPT. What is chat GPT,

1705
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:37,120
Speaker 3: all right? Let's look at that. Chat GPT is a

1706
01:46:37,200 --> 01:46:42,960
Speaker 3: generative pre training. Generative pre training, all right, So you

1707
01:46:43,120 --> 01:46:48,960
Speaker 3: are training chat GPT, That's what's happening. You are the

1708
01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:52,000
Speaker 3: data that chat GPT is learning from. That's an important

1709
01:46:52,040 --> 01:46:57,720
Speaker 3: point for you to understand. That's the reason for social media, Facebook, TikTok, Instagram,

1710
01:46:58,160 --> 01:47:02,320
Speaker 3: all those different media platforms. That's the reason outside of

1711
01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:06,040
Speaker 3: surveillance and counterintelligence, because remember we're dealing with warfare, all right.

1712
01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:08,960
Speaker 3: So chat GPT is a language model, all right. It

1713
01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:15,160
Speaker 3: deals with content, data, writing, narrative stories, conversations, things of

1714
01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:18,839
Speaker 3: that matter. That's what you're dealing with, all right. Functions, answers, questions,

1715
01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:24,920
Speaker 3: write text solve mathematical equations, classifying things, explaining what something does.

1716
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:30,840
Speaker 3: Isn't that something we do? Isn't that something humans do?

1717
01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:34,120
Speaker 3: So we understand the chat GPT first and foremost. This

1718
01:47:34,280 --> 01:47:37,400
Speaker 3: is the mimicking of human intelligence, first and foremost, and

1719
01:47:37,479 --> 01:47:42,479
Speaker 3: then understanding that you would understand that the question that

1720
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:45,560
Speaker 3: we are or the statement we always get is I

1721
01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:49,720
Speaker 3: ask chat GPT, and chat GPT said so all over

1722
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:54,280
Speaker 3: the internet, I asked chat GPT, and chat GPT said, well,

1723
01:47:54,320 --> 01:47:58,760
Speaker 3: why don't you ask yourself, your own spirit, your own

1724
01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:03,719
Speaker 3: quote unquote technology quote unquote god essence quote unquote god being,

1725
01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:07,400
Speaker 3: this your intuition, your imagination. Why don't you tap into

1726
01:48:07,520 --> 01:48:11,000
Speaker 3: that intelligence, tap into the intelligence of the ancestors. Why

1727
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:14,040
Speaker 3: don't you tap into that the intelligence of the universe, nature,

1728
01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:17,320
Speaker 3: so on and so forth. That is a supreme intelligence,

1729
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:20,439
Speaker 3: So why don't you tap into that. So again, it

1730
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:23,160
Speaker 3: shows us how we move so far away from ourselfs

1731
01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:27,320
Speaker 3: and we moved into things that are external that has

1732
01:48:27,400 --> 01:48:30,120
Speaker 3: nothing to do with the connection of our greater self.

1733
01:48:30,439 --> 01:48:33,200
Speaker 3: All right, So you're talking about being disconnected from the

1734
01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:37,439
Speaker 3: process of our process. All right, this is what AI

1735
01:48:37,640 --> 01:48:41,160
Speaker 3: is doing. This is intentional. This is deliberate to pull

1736
01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:45,040
Speaker 3: you away from your spirit, your soul, the arte type

1737
01:48:45,040 --> 01:48:48,720
Speaker 3: of premordial organic essence of who and what we are. Now,

1738
01:48:50,280 --> 01:48:53,200
Speaker 3: let's go deeper into this. So when we talk about

1739
01:48:53,280 --> 01:48:58,240
Speaker 3: operating systems and language models, what are original operating systems

1740
01:48:58,280 --> 01:49:02,639
Speaker 3: and language models? Okay, when you look at the metal

1741
01:49:02,720 --> 01:49:06,800
Speaker 3: netureth that is an operating system, an original arch type

1742
01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:10,600
Speaker 3: of primordial operating system and language model. What is the

1743
01:49:10,680 --> 01:49:14,560
Speaker 3: metal neture It's divine language, It's sacred language. It's the

1744
01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:18,439
Speaker 3: language of the quote unquote gods. This anthropomorphic symbolism. It's

1745
01:49:18,479 --> 01:49:22,439
Speaker 3: pictograph writing. It's sound, this word is power, this divine writing,

1746
01:49:22,520 --> 01:49:25,120
Speaker 3: it's the word of quote unquote God. It's the divine word,

1747
01:49:25,240 --> 01:49:29,519
Speaker 3: divine speech. It's the maai karu words of nature, all

1748
01:49:29,640 --> 01:49:32,719
Speaker 3: infinite forms of existence. It's the tongue of quote unquote God.

1749
01:49:33,960 --> 01:49:36,000
Speaker 3: That's what we're dealing with. We're dealing with symbols that

1750
01:49:36,120 --> 01:49:39,479
Speaker 3: represent letters and characters. You're dealing with words. You're dealing

1751
01:49:39,560 --> 01:49:44,799
Speaker 3: with concepts, ideas, reality is truth, alchemy, processes, pictures, events,

1752
01:49:45,200 --> 01:49:48,760
Speaker 3: time periods, science, math, attributes, and so on and so forth.

1753
01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:50,840
Speaker 3: This is what you are dealing with when you deal

1754
01:49:50,880 --> 01:49:56,040
Speaker 3: with metal netsuirth. You're dealing with the connection of the universe,

1755
01:49:56,120 --> 01:49:59,840
Speaker 3: the cosmos, nature, so on and so forth. All right,

1756
01:50:00,439 --> 01:50:04,880
Speaker 3: everything that is said cha GPT is that operating system

1757
01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:07,879
Speaker 3: is an operating system of language model that we created

1758
01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:12,960
Speaker 3: thousands and tens of thousands and hundreds of thousands of

1759
01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:17,240
Speaker 3: years ago. And it's not just the metal neture. You

1760
01:50:17,320 --> 01:50:22,519
Speaker 3: can look at what's happening with the yild up of

1761
01:50:22,560 --> 01:50:27,920
Speaker 3: people Ephi and what they're doing, all right, the ODO,

1762
01:50:29,760 --> 01:50:33,360
Speaker 3: the Ephi literary corpus, the Divnation system, this as well

1763
01:50:33,560 --> 01:50:37,920
Speaker 3: is operating system language model. All right, that's dealing with

1764
01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:42,360
Speaker 3: Eva nation and things of that nature. So again, these

1765
01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:45,479
Speaker 3: are things that we've already created and constructed, all right,

1766
01:50:45,680 --> 01:50:50,439
Speaker 3: And we can go into other aspects of Africa as well.

1767
01:50:50,720 --> 01:50:53,840
Speaker 3: The Dogon and what the Dogon does as far as cosmology,

1768
01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:55,720
Speaker 3: what they do with the ritual mask and things of

1769
01:50:55,760 --> 01:50:58,760
Speaker 3: that nature, and what that represents their connection to the

1770
01:50:58,840 --> 01:51:02,760
Speaker 3: ancestors and ancestral intelligence. It's connection to the signs and

1771
01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:04,800
Speaker 3: the symbols and the things that they're doing throughout the

1772
01:51:04,920 --> 01:51:08,519
Speaker 3: year that connects them with to quote unquote God and

1773
01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:11,360
Speaker 3: things of that nature. So all of these are operating

1774
01:51:11,439 --> 01:51:16,080
Speaker 3: systems and models and what's incorporated in its art writing, symbolism,

1775
01:51:16,200 --> 01:51:23,800
Speaker 3: ritual sigil, iconography, folklore, anthropomorphic symbolism, spiritual technology, ancestral intelligence,

1776
01:51:23,840 --> 01:51:28,760
Speaker 3: African intelligence, nature, the Library of consciousness, the cosmos. These

1777
01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:30,800
Speaker 3: are all things that's involved in it. And of course

1778
01:51:30,840 --> 01:51:33,479
Speaker 3: philosophy and all the other things that we're dealing with,

1779
01:51:33,720 --> 01:51:36,479
Speaker 3: the many different aspects of science. All these things are

1780
01:51:36,560 --> 01:51:39,760
Speaker 3: part of these operating systems and language models. See, I

1781
01:51:39,880 --> 01:51:42,680
Speaker 3: have to take us there because we forget who we are,

1782
01:51:43,000 --> 01:51:46,439
Speaker 3: because we're so busy edifine and dealfying this system and

1783
01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:50,640
Speaker 3: white people when the weakest language model that exists is

1784
01:51:50,760 --> 01:51:53,320
Speaker 3: the English language. And this is why I say you

1785
01:51:53,479 --> 01:51:57,479
Speaker 3: cannot see African anything through a European lens. They have

1786
01:51:57,680 --> 01:52:00,240
Speaker 3: you looking at things through a European lens. When you

1787
01:52:00,360 --> 01:52:04,120
Speaker 3: deal with the enslaved Africans that was brought over here,

1788
01:52:04,439 --> 01:52:07,479
Speaker 3: what's the first thing they took away from them? Language

1789
01:52:08,439 --> 01:52:11,720
Speaker 3: and the drum. Why Because they were operating systems and

1790
01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:15,479
Speaker 3: language models of communication that tap them into things that

1791
01:52:15,600 --> 01:52:19,320
Speaker 3: these white people do not understand. So what they're doing

1792
01:52:19,479 --> 01:52:24,960
Speaker 3: is taking their elementary understanding of what we were doing

1793
01:52:25,800 --> 01:52:29,320
Speaker 3: and now infusing you into that to take you away

1794
01:52:29,400 --> 01:52:32,840
Speaker 3: from the power of who and what you are, all right,

1795
01:52:33,040 --> 01:52:34,640
Speaker 3: So we had to do that first of all. This

1796
01:52:34,760 --> 01:52:37,200
Speaker 3: is why I always say learn the African language, even

1797
01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:40,160
Speaker 3: if it's not something that you're speaking every day, or

1798
01:52:40,240 --> 01:52:42,160
Speaker 3: you may not have a group to speak too. But

1799
01:52:42,320 --> 01:52:45,200
Speaker 3: learn the language because what it does is it taps

1800
01:52:45,240 --> 01:52:48,360
Speaker 3: you into parts of your brand and your existence that

1801
01:52:48,479 --> 01:52:52,120
Speaker 3: you are not tapped into simply because you are now

1802
01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:58,920
Speaker 3: interfacing with that language model, which is expansive and exponential,

1803
01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:02,160
Speaker 3: all right. That's first and foremost. Before we even get

1804
01:53:02,240 --> 01:53:05,800
Speaker 3: into chat GPT, you understand that the power is not

1805
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:09,120
Speaker 3: chat GPT. The power is what you and your ancestors

1806
01:53:09,200 --> 01:53:13,160
Speaker 3: have been doing as long as we've been here, you understand.

1807
01:53:13,360 --> 01:53:17,320
Speaker 3: So it's important that you understand that the Zulu, the Ebo,

1808
01:53:18,120 --> 01:53:22,840
Speaker 3: the Twa, the Bahtwa, the Kakuu, the Oromo, the ba Ka,

1809
01:53:23,360 --> 01:53:28,280
Speaker 3: and many many other Africans have types of operating systems

1810
01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:32,479
Speaker 3: and language models, which is why we are here today.

1811
01:53:33,560 --> 01:53:37,160
Speaker 3: It's because of those Africans and those operating systems and

1812
01:53:37,240 --> 01:53:43,720
Speaker 3: those language models that we've continue to duplicate over and

1813
01:53:43,960 --> 01:53:50,120
Speaker 3: over and over and over again. That's where the power is.

1814
01:53:51,520 --> 01:53:54,519
Speaker 3: All right, Carl, where do you want to go from there?

1815
01:53:54,800 --> 01:53:56,760
Speaker 3: I can I have a lot of places I can go.

1816
01:53:57,280 --> 01:53:58,599
Speaker 3: So where do you want to go from there?

1817
01:53:59,720 --> 01:54:02,800
Speaker 1: Let's cliff for us, and then we will give us

1818
01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:04,599
Speaker 1: the pros and content. We can pick it up from there.

1819
01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:07,639
Speaker 1: Cliffs are calling for Connecticut is online one the Grand

1820
01:54:07,720 --> 01:54:09,720
Speaker 1: Rising Cliff brother Sadiki.

1821
01:54:10,360 --> 01:54:13,400
Speaker 14: Yes, sir, Grand Rising Brother Sidiki and brother Kyle. Listen,

1822
01:54:13,680 --> 01:54:16,640
Speaker 14: Brother Sticky, you mentioned earlier which kind of got me

1823
01:54:17,040 --> 01:54:19,479
Speaker 14: inspired to pose this question, and I hope it is

1824
01:54:19,560 --> 01:54:23,360
Speaker 14: reasonable in reference to I'm listening to to get right

1825
01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:23,560
Speaker 14: to it.

1826
01:54:23,600 --> 01:54:24,360
Speaker 3: I'm listening to these.

1827
01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:28,880
Speaker 14: Hearings and now there are congressional hearings in reference to

1828
01:54:29,320 --> 01:54:34,560
Speaker 14: testimony coming from military and law enforcement that they're seeing

1829
01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:41,360
Speaker 14: flying unidentifying flying objects. Now, UAPs, Now, is that a

1830
01:54:41,440 --> 01:54:44,000
Speaker 14: concern or been a question to you? In reference can

1831
01:54:44,200 --> 01:54:47,480
Speaker 14: I'm asking you? And also have you dealt with the

1832
01:54:47,800 --> 01:54:52,960
Speaker 14: program that maybe confirms that there are other beings or

1833
01:54:53,400 --> 01:54:55,400
Speaker 14: objects that exist other than us?

1834
01:54:56,840 --> 01:55:01,960
Speaker 3: Okay, so that's a perfect question. However, I'm not going

1835
01:55:02,040 --> 01:55:03,800
Speaker 3: to get into that and deal with that or in

1836
01:55:03,880 --> 01:55:06,200
Speaker 3: this show. I want to stay focused on the topic. Yes,

1837
01:55:06,280 --> 01:55:08,920
Speaker 3: the only way that question would be relevant if we

1838
01:55:09,040 --> 01:55:18,040
Speaker 3: are talking about CGI type of technology, holographic type of technology,

1839
01:55:18,440 --> 01:55:21,360
Speaker 3: or projections to make people think that they are actually

1840
01:55:21,400 --> 01:55:23,960
Speaker 3: seeing something that they're not seeing. All right, So we

1841
01:55:24,040 --> 01:55:27,360
Speaker 3: could be relevant in that way, but that's not I

1842
01:55:27,400 --> 01:55:29,240
Speaker 3: don't really want to deal with that this morning. I

1843
01:55:29,280 --> 01:55:33,280
Speaker 3: want to stay on this this AI, yes, sir, chat,

1844
01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:35,840
Speaker 3: GPT and all of that, and maybe at another time

1845
01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:39,240
Speaker 3: we can deal with that type of a question and

1846
01:55:39,320 --> 01:55:42,320
Speaker 3: subject matter. All right, that's fair, thank you, sir.

1847
01:55:43,200 --> 01:55:45,640
Speaker 1: All right, all right, so give us the pros and

1848
01:55:45,760 --> 01:55:48,120
Speaker 1: cons of artificial intelligent AI.

1849
01:55:49,720 --> 01:55:57,400
Speaker 3: Okay, so let's start with the cons. Because the world

1850
01:55:57,520 --> 01:56:01,240
Speaker 3: is programmed well the United States is programmed who only

1851
01:56:01,360 --> 01:56:03,680
Speaker 3: deal with the pros to begin with, because that's part

1852
01:56:03,720 --> 01:56:07,800
Speaker 3: of the programming. So let's look at chad GPT. And

1853
01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:11,120
Speaker 3: this is from an article in Futurism. Futurism is a

1854
01:56:11,400 --> 01:56:19,360
Speaker 3: very respectable, incredible publication. Chad GPT users developing bizarre illusions.

1855
01:56:20,840 --> 01:56:25,240
Speaker 3: All right, people who use chad GPT psychosis, obviously, this

1856
01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:33,800
Speaker 3: is an overabundance of usage. Psychosis, addiction, paranoia, AI induced illusions,

1857
01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:41,520
Speaker 3: chad GPT a firm psychosis, and psychotic thoughts guiding users

1858
01:56:41,720 --> 01:56:48,520
Speaker 3: deeper into unhealthy, nonsensical narratives. All right. Now you have

1859
01:56:48,680 --> 01:56:54,800
Speaker 3: to understand the science is now dealing with these very

1860
01:56:54,920 --> 01:56:58,960
Speaker 3: questions about chat GPT, the pros, the CODs and things

1861
01:56:59,040 --> 01:57:01,120
Speaker 3: of that nature. How does it affecting human brain? How

1862
01:57:01,120 --> 01:57:03,960
Speaker 3: does it affect children? So they're dealing with those things now,

1863
01:57:04,240 --> 01:57:08,320
Speaker 3: So let's look at some more cons and drawbacks early

1864
01:57:08,440 --> 01:57:12,560
Speaker 3: reports from brain scans, all right, by scientists. So again

1865
01:57:12,640 --> 01:57:18,000
Speaker 3: you have different type of medium scientifically that's dealing with

1866
01:57:18,480 --> 01:57:23,880
Speaker 3: these particular topics and questions. Weaker mentality, excuse me, weaker

1867
01:57:24,080 --> 01:57:29,280
Speaker 3: mental activity working with chat GPT. All right, I'm gonna

1868
01:57:29,280 --> 01:57:34,480
Speaker 3: say it again, weaker mental activity working with chat GPT. Well, obviously,

1869
01:57:34,600 --> 01:57:37,520
Speaker 3: because you're not involved in the process. Chat GPT is

1870
01:57:37,560 --> 01:57:40,360
Speaker 3: doing everything for you. So it's making you lazy mentally,

1871
01:57:41,400 --> 01:57:48,000
Speaker 3: trouble remembering what they just produced, all right, because they're

1872
01:57:48,080 --> 01:57:51,520
Speaker 3: not producing it. Chat GPT is all right, So why

1873
01:57:51,600 --> 01:57:54,240
Speaker 3: would you remember something that you yourself is not even

1874
01:57:54,320 --> 01:58:00,240
Speaker 3: part of or the process reduces effort and focus, are right,

1875
01:58:00,520 --> 01:58:03,640
Speaker 3: reduce this effort and focus. See, these are the problems

1876
01:58:05,720 --> 01:58:08,560
Speaker 3: many teachers talk about that's happening with their students and

1877
01:58:08,640 --> 01:58:10,920
Speaker 3: their classes, and they're doing their work through chat GPT,

1878
01:58:11,240 --> 01:58:14,600
Speaker 3: So you have f students who's using chat GPT as

1879
01:58:14,640 --> 01:58:17,600
Speaker 3: if the teacher won't recognize that that's not their work.

1880
01:58:18,120 --> 01:58:20,160
Speaker 3: All right. So these are the issues that's taking place,

1881
01:58:20,240 --> 01:58:23,200
Speaker 3: And of course I know it's taking place in universities

1882
01:58:23,240 --> 01:58:25,560
Speaker 3: for sure, with turn papers and research papers and things

1883
01:58:25,600 --> 01:58:32,720
Speaker 3: of that nature. Changes how the brain stays engaged, all right.

1884
01:58:33,000 --> 01:58:35,840
Speaker 3: When you're part of the process, the brain is going

1885
01:58:35,920 --> 01:58:38,200
Speaker 3: to be more engaged, the spirit is going to be

1886
01:58:38,320 --> 01:58:41,560
Speaker 3: more engaged in this process. Energetically, you're going to be

1887
01:58:41,680 --> 01:58:48,200
Speaker 3: more engaged in this process, all right. Other drawbacks biased answers, Well,

1888
01:58:48,960 --> 01:58:52,960
Speaker 3: that should be obvious because chat GPT is a part

1889
01:58:53,040 --> 01:58:57,800
Speaker 3: of what system you understand. So again, this system, everything

1890
01:58:57,880 --> 01:59:03,920
Speaker 3: it does, has a million terry warfare wing to it

1891
01:59:04,440 --> 01:59:08,200
Speaker 3: or foundation for it. Incorrect answers. See, this is why

1892
01:59:08,320 --> 01:59:13,400
Speaker 3: people need to stop deifying and edifying AI. Any correct answers.

1893
01:59:13,680 --> 01:59:16,720
Speaker 3: All right, Chad GPT will end up asking you a

1894
01:59:16,840 --> 01:59:20,160
Speaker 3: question because it doesn't know the answer to the question.

1895
01:59:20,480 --> 01:59:23,680
Speaker 3: So again, chad GPT is learning from you. You are

1896
01:59:23,760 --> 01:59:27,600
Speaker 3: the metadata and the meta information that chad GPT is

1897
01:59:27,960 --> 01:59:30,800
Speaker 3: learning from. You are the mind files. You are the

1898
01:59:30,960 --> 01:59:35,839
Speaker 3: mind where or the software that CHADGPT. Then other aspects

1899
01:59:35,880 --> 01:59:41,640
Speaker 3: of AI is learning from. No emotional intelligence. Now, how

1900
01:59:41,720 --> 01:59:46,240
Speaker 3: can we deal with chad GPT as a therapist and

1901
01:59:46,360 --> 01:59:51,040
Speaker 3: things of that nature when CHADGPT does not have emotional intelligence.

1902
01:59:51,120 --> 01:59:53,920
Speaker 3: This is why I tell people all the time. AI

1903
01:59:56,240 --> 01:59:59,920
Speaker 3: is not conscious, it's not sentient. It never will be

1904
02:00:00,200 --> 02:00:04,400
Speaker 3: conscious or sentient. That's part of the promotional and marketing

1905
02:00:05,320 --> 02:00:09,480
Speaker 3: media narrative to program you that AI is or possibly

1906
02:00:09,800 --> 02:00:14,440
Speaker 3: can be quote unquote god all right, lack of insight,

1907
02:00:14,920 --> 02:00:21,880
Speaker 3: no thinking capability at GPT does not think, understand that,

1908
02:00:22,480 --> 02:00:25,840
Speaker 3: it does not think, all right, It does not sink.

1909
02:00:27,280 --> 02:00:32,640
Speaker 3: Don't get caught up in the programming lies, flat out lies. Plagiarism.

1910
02:00:32,760 --> 02:00:36,960
Speaker 3: That's all chat GPT is is plagiarizing people's thoughts, human thoughts,

1911
02:00:37,360 --> 02:00:40,680
Speaker 3: all right, no sentience and consciousness, as I mentioned. And

1912
02:00:40,800 --> 02:00:44,720
Speaker 3: of course racism and discrimination, as I always say on here.

1913
02:00:45,160 --> 02:00:47,640
Speaker 3: Twenty years ago, people said I was crazy when I

1914
02:00:47,720 --> 02:00:52,440
Speaker 3: said AI, algorithms and technology is the new racism and discrimination.

1915
02:00:52,880 --> 02:00:56,760
Speaker 3: Now it's the conversation that everyone's talking about. Once the

1916
02:00:56,880 --> 02:00:59,760
Speaker 3: documentary Coded Bias came out I think in twenty nineteen

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Speaker 3: or for twenty twenty that The Sister did on Netflix.

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Speaker 3: Now everyone is talking about algorithms and AI and technology

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Speaker 3: and racism and bias and discrimination and these different things. Well, absolutely,

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Speaker 3: because it's an extension and psychosis of psychopaths. Now, let's

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Speaker 3: get into the pros if we want to call it

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Speaker 3: that the ability to work with photos, Okay, but what

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Speaker 3: that really means is people with low self esteem, people

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Speaker 3: with insecurities. They're going to be the people who really

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Speaker 3: would like to use these things to work with photos,

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Speaker 3: like all of the AI photos that you see on Facebook.

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Speaker 3: And this is no disrespect to anyone. Someone who weighs

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Speaker 3: three hundred pounds, but they have AI photos of them

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Speaker 3: weighing one hundred and thirty pounds. All right, people that

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Speaker 3: have acne on their face now have these AI pictures

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Speaker 3: where they have no acne on their face. Because people

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Speaker 3: aren't willing to accept themselves and work on themselves to look. However,

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Speaker 3: it is that they desire to look. So that's what

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Speaker 3: you're going to see with those type of things. More

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Speaker 3: dependable and I have dependable in quotes, more dependable written

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Speaker 3: responses than previous. That's not necessarily true. Streamlining work, well,

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Speaker 3: streamlining work doesn't that come from a human mind. But

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Speaker 3: that's what a positive is according to or pro according

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Speaker 3: to the research that's out here. New features, So obviously

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Speaker 3: they're always coming up with new features information synthesis. Let's

1941
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Speaker 3: see here increased productivity, all right, So people who do

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Speaker 3: not want to deal with the process are going to

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Speaker 3: love that from a standpoint of increased productivity. But see,

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Speaker 3: when you master what you do, you're going to have

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Speaker 3: it increase in productivity.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and I'll let you explain that when you get back.

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Speaker 1: But also also respond to the talk that people say

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Speaker 1: that we should embrace AI because we should learn coding

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Speaker 1: because their jobs and oh future, and we should we

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Speaker 1: shouldn't run away from it. We should, you know, try

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Speaker 1: to get a foot in the door as far as ai.

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Speaker 1: So all right, I'll let you responded that when we

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Speaker 1: get back family, you two can join our discussion with

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Speaker 1: brother Sadeki Bakari. Reach out to us at eight hundred

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Speaker 1: four five zero seventy eight seventy six and we ticket

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Speaker 1: phone calls next and grand rising family. Thanks for sticking

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Speaker 1: with us on this Thursday morning with our guest, the

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Speaker 1: futuristic researcher, brother Sadeka Bakari. Before we go back to

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Speaker 1: brother Sidiki, just want to remind you Tomorrow's Friday. We've

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Speaker 1: got to give you another chance to free your mind.

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Speaker 1: All that means just think for yourself and join us

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Speaker 1: for our open phone Friday program. We begin promptly at

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Speaker 1: six am Eastern Time right here in Baltimore on ten

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Speaker 1: ten WLB and also in the DMV the Washington DC

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Speaker 1: Metropolitan Era on fourteen fifty WL and please call call early,

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Speaker 1: don't wait till the last minute. A lot of folks

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Speaker 1: wait to the last minute and then we don't get

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Speaker 1: them on. We would love to hear from me, so

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Speaker 1: make sure just make a note of that and join

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Speaker 1: us tomorrow morning. Before we left the break, brother Sadeki,

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Speaker 1: my question to you was, some folks are saying that

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Speaker 1: we should embrace AI artificial intention, we should run to it,

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Speaker 1: we should learn coding, we should have a childrenlearn it

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Speaker 1: because it's the future. What's sales?

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Speaker 11: Okay?

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Speaker 3: First of all, the statement that AI is the future

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Speaker 3: or technology is the future, that is a government based

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Speaker 3: psychological operation and mind control program. Let me make it clear.

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Speaker 3: Now we've done an entire show on programming in regards

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Speaker 3: to AI technology, the media, the phrases and things of

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Speaker 3: that nature that's being used, the statements and those types

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Speaker 3: of things. So first of all, let's just be clear,

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Speaker 3: that's a mind control program, all right. That's why you

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Speaker 3: hear everyone repeating that AI is the future or technology

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Speaker 3: is the future, or will you will get left behind

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Speaker 3: if you don't learn this particular aspect of AI and

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Speaker 3: all these other things. That is a program. Again, as

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Speaker 3: I stated, and I keep stating, when you are dealing

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Speaker 3: with AI in Chechnolo, you are dealing with warfare and military.

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Speaker 3: When you deal with warfare and military, it starts in

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Speaker 3: the mind. So again, the war is on and for

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Speaker 3: your mind. Matter of fact, your central nervous system. What's

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Speaker 3: the purpose of your central nervous system? The point of

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Speaker 3: your The purpose of your central nervous system is related

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Speaker 3: to signals throughout your body, sending signals to different parts

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Speaker 3: of your body so your body operate properly. It's also

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Speaker 3: connected to neurons which send these signals. It's connected to

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Speaker 3: your brain, the many different parts of your brain, ther

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Speaker 3: migdo La, your olympic system, all these different things. If

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Speaker 3: I just nerved your organs, all these different things central,

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Speaker 3: It's called central for a reason. Now, this very notion

2002
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Speaker 3: of a central nervous system, according to Hewlett Packer, is

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Speaker 3: exactly what they would like to do with technology on

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Speaker 3: this planet. They want to create a digital nervous system

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Speaker 3: that everyone is connected to, all right, So this is

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Speaker 3: where you start getting to get to the smart cities

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Speaker 3: and all those different things which we can get into.

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Speaker 3: So that's what's happening. So people have to understand this

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Speaker 3: is about military and warfare. So when you say those

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Speaker 3: particular things and you say we should orient into technology

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Speaker 3: and do all these different things or be imposed into

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Speaker 3: the technology, if you don't know the technology and understand

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Speaker 3: the technology. It's the most ignorant statement that you can make,

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Speaker 3: all right if you don't understand. So earlier you were,

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Speaker 3: you and the guests were talking about chat, GPT, Jesus

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Speaker 3: and devils and all those different things. And listen, this

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Speaker 3: is what the virtual world is. It is a portal,

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Speaker 3: It is a gateway. It is a stargate to parasitic energy,

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Speaker 3: demonic entities, spirit possession, avatar, spell casting, conjuring, hexes, mantras,

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Speaker 3: energy vampires, soul snatchers, psychic vampires, ritual sigil, witchcraft, sorcery.

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Speaker 3: All these different things are part of why you're being

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Speaker 3: interfaced with the technology. So again, who controls the technology?

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Speaker 3: What are they? What do they deal with? All right?

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Speaker 3: What is their spiritual epithet so to speak. So you're

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Speaker 3: dealing with spirit cookers, which is sorcerers, wizards, warlocks, satanists,

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Speaker 3: a cultist, suckubists, narcissists, devil worshippers. That's what you're dealing with,

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Speaker 3: all right. So again we're talking about binary codes and algorithms.

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Speaker 3: So when I broke down the history of operating systems

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Speaker 3: as far as where it comes from, operating systems and

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Speaker 3: language models, you're dealing with binary codes and algorithms. The

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Speaker 3: metal neture is binary codes and algorithms. When you deal

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Speaker 3: with the ODO or the EPHA Devination system and many

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Speaker 3: other systems, you're dealing with binary codes and algorithms. Those

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Speaker 3: binary codes and algorithms have the ability to open portals

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Speaker 3: for you. All right. So now when we start dealing

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Speaker 3: with portals, you have to deal with the mindset of

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Speaker 3: the people that's engaging it, or the spiritual essence of

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Speaker 3: the people who's engaging it. So, as you're being imposed

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Speaker 3: into or interfacing with the virtual world, what do you

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Speaker 3: think you're interfacing with on social media? On Facebook and

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Speaker 3: Instagram and TikTok. Many of those people aren't humans. Their bots.

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Speaker 3: Many of those people aren't bots or humans their entities

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Speaker 3: attached to those bots in those humans that now latch

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Speaker 3: on to you. So you have to understand the science

2045
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Speaker 3: behind these things and what's really happening. They're never talking

2046
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Speaker 3: to you about the real science of it. They're only

2047
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Speaker 3: talking to you about the surface level, exoteric aspect of it,

2048
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Speaker 3: as opposed to how does it affect you spiritually. They're

2049
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Speaker 3: not talking about that. A chat GPT Jesus, how does

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Speaker 3: that affect you. That's a program on top of a program.

2051
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Speaker 3: So that's an AI on top of another AI. Because

2052
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Speaker 3: when you deal with religion, religion itself is artificial intelligence

2053
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Speaker 3: that was used to mimic a true spiritual organic intelligence.

2054
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Speaker 3: So now you have AI mimicking AI mimicking and original intelligence.

2055
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Speaker 3: So you're getting further and further away from the power

2056
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Speaker 3: and the essence and the divinity of who and what

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Speaker 3: we are as a black people. And that's my main

2058
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Speaker 3: concern is black people anyway, or Africans in the dear sport.

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Speaker 3: That's my concern, all right, That's what I deal with

2060
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Speaker 3: when I deal with this research. That's who I'm concerned with,

2061
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Speaker 3: because they are not talking to you. They're only using

2062
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Speaker 3: you in order to do what it is that they

2063
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Speaker 3: need to do with the technologies and understand how these

2064
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Speaker 3: technologies affect the body. These technologies leave biometric signatures because

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Speaker 3: you are an antenna. This gets into a whole conversation

2066
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Speaker 3: when you start another conversation, when you start dealing with Melanie,

2067
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Speaker 3: when you start dealing with our makeup, when you start

2068
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Speaker 3: dealing with our energy and the many different aspects of

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Speaker 3: who and what we are as a people. So now

2070
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Speaker 3: you're dealing with electrical currents, bioelectric signals, biometric tracking, You're

2071
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Speaker 3: dealing with waveform and data because these energies are data,

2072
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Speaker 3: you understand, So you're dealing with energy harvesting. So now

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Speaker 3: you're becoming entangled with entities that are parasitic and toxic

2074
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Speaker 3: type of entities that are being used to calls the

2075
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Speaker 3: very thing that this article is talking about in futurism. See,

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Speaker 3: we got to be able to deal with these things

2077
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Speaker 3: on a deeper level. So when this article is in futurism,

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Speaker 3: it's talking about the paranoia, the psychosis, the addiction, and

2079
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Speaker 3: things of that nature. That is because there's the energies

2080
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Speaker 3: that's now being lashed onto you, that's tapping into you.

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Speaker 3: That's what we're dealing with. This is deep. People need

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Speaker 3: to understand this. So when you make people make statements Carl,

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Speaker 3: like oh AI is the future, Yes, we need to

2084
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Speaker 3: get involved in AI. Well what is it? See people

2085
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Speaker 3: are making these statements and don't know what it is

2086
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Speaker 3: that they're dealing with. So everything I just explained would

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Speaker 3: not mean that it's warfare and military absolutely absolutely fifth

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Speaker 3: generation warfare. It's a warfare conducted primarily through non kinetic

2089
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Speaker 3: military action such as social engineering, misinformation, cyber attacks, along

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Speaker 3: with emerging technologies such as artificial intelligence and fully autonomous systems.

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Speaker 3: All right, so when you cut on the television, that

2092
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Speaker 3: is a portal, that is a stargate, that is a

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Speaker 3: vortex to these demonic entities that people are talking about,

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Speaker 3: and people need to understand some of the people talking

2095
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Speaker 3: about demonic entities are the dominic entities. You only see

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Speaker 3: what you see physically in this third dimensional material world.

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Speaker 3: There's other entities here, spirits. Spirits is what I'm talking

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Speaker 3: about that exists that you're around, that you don't understand, exist,

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Speaker 3: the energy of it and how it affects you. Well,

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Speaker 3: this is also part of artificial intelligence and all that

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Speaker 3: we're talking about with virtual reality, augmented reality, mixed reality,

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Speaker 3: immersive reality, all of these things. It's a reason for

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Speaker 3: these things. Now, even when we look at the Internet,

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Speaker 3: what was the initial reason or purpose for the Internet

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Speaker 3: in the nineteen fifties, it was a government project CIA,

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Speaker 3: if I'm not mistaken. What was the reason for it surveillance.

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Speaker 3: So when we initially hear about the Internet, how we

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Speaker 3: see the Internet today. When we initially hear about the

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Speaker 3: internet in I think nineteen fifty four or fifty five,

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Speaker 3: if I'm not mistaken, you can check the year. I

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Speaker 3: know it's in the fifties. The initial purpose, what's surveillance

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Speaker 3: and counterintelligence? What do you think GPT is? What do

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Speaker 3: you think the internet is in social media? What do

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Speaker 3: you think the digital phone is? Okay, Carl, Yeah, all right, we.

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Speaker 1: Got some folks want to talk to you. But before

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Speaker 1: I do that, uh, the Internet. Since we're on the Internet,

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Speaker 1: aren't there different levels of Internet? The one that most

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Speaker 1: of us use. Isn't there another Internet the other folks use?

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Speaker 1: The real quick?

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Speaker 3: Great point, Carl. So just so people understand, the technology

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Speaker 3: that you are giving is basically the Ken and Barbie

2122
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Speaker 3: of technology, all right, Like it's it's on such a

2123
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Speaker 3: low level in regards to the technology. So your digital

2124
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Speaker 3: phone is is four G or five G? All right?

2125
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Speaker 3: There's ten G technology out here in China they're dealing

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Speaker 3: with and that's what they tell us. So it may

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Speaker 3: be beyond that, all right. So you have to understand

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Speaker 3: first and foremost you're not even dealing with the advanced

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Speaker 3: technology you think you are. But you're not you're at

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Speaker 3: least fifty years behind on the technology. If they can

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02:14:14,320 --> 02:14:17,120
Speaker 3: show it to you, they're fifty years ahead of that.

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02:14:18,160 --> 02:14:21,040
Speaker 3: So that's what we have to understand. So you're already

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Speaker 3: at a deficit to begin with, and we're talking about

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02:14:24,480 --> 02:14:26,600
Speaker 3: we need to merge with the technology and do all

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Speaker 3: these different things. You already at a deficit. You mentioned coding, Carl,

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Speaker 3: Coding is about to get phased out. That'll be the

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Speaker 3: AI thing that's coming into near future. Coding will be

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Speaker 3: phased out, and Carl, when it comes to these things,

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Speaker 3: I've yet to be wrong. And the reason, not because

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02:14:46,200 --> 02:14:50,360
Speaker 3: I'm special, is just because I understand exponential growth and

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02:14:50,480 --> 02:14:53,640
Speaker 3: what that means. And exponential growth is really just san

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Speaker 3: kopha in a Western form that they're using for science,

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Speaker 3: all right, So it's basically, you know what the technology was,

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Speaker 3: say fifty years ago, so that means ten years later,

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02:15:08,320 --> 02:15:11,440
Speaker 3: based on what happened ten years prior, you understand where

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02:15:11,480 --> 02:15:14,480
Speaker 3: it's headed. So twenty years later you understand where it

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02:15:14,640 --> 02:15:17,280
Speaker 3: is and where it's headed based on twenty years ago

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Speaker 3: or ten years ago, right, So forty years later you

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02:15:20,280 --> 02:15:23,080
Speaker 3: understand based on where it was forty years ago, thirty

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Speaker 3: years ago, twenty years ago, where it's going to be

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Speaker 3: in ten years, in twenty years and sixty years and

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02:15:28,640 --> 02:15:33,800
Speaker 3: so on and so forth. That's called goodness. Gracious, it

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Speaker 3: just left me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll come back, as it usually is in these situations.

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02:15:42,000 --> 02:15:45,680
Speaker 1: But showing us exponential goes got you stick away from

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Speaker 1: the top.

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 1: Tyrone's got a question for you and announced when he's

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Speaker 1: online six grand rise in Tyron.

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Speaker 11: You're O brother Sadiki, Yes, Greg rosin Carrot. Very very

2161
02:15:56,320 --> 02:16:00,480
Speaker 11: intriguing conversation and it's very deep. I get where you

2162
02:16:00,680 --> 02:16:03,240
Speaker 11: where you're going at, and I know that they're just

2163
02:16:04,000 --> 02:16:07,720
Speaker 11: this dism by these spirits and you got to actually

2164
02:16:07,880 --> 02:16:10,840
Speaker 11: invite them in in order for them to dominate you

2165
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Speaker 11: and I and what you're saying, it's like a chosen

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02:16:13,720 --> 02:16:16,480
Speaker 11: horse way of writing these spirits. And let me let

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02:16:16,520 --> 02:16:20,400
Speaker 11: me just announcement real quick now I'm in my question. Okay,

2168
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Speaker 11: So Carl you can call, you know, prior to this

2169
02:16:23,800 --> 02:16:26,200
Speaker 11: to remind people as they forget. We have a meeting

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Speaker 11: today with the school board and it's open to the

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Speaker 11: public today at two hundred East North Avenue. It's the

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Speaker 11: support of keeping the Collegiate School for Boys open the

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Speaker 11: Barnmo Collegiate School for Boys. The school board headquarters look

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Speaker 11: at at two hundred East North Avenue. You used to

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Speaker 11: be down there between uh five thirty and seven thirty,

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Speaker 11: five thirty and seven thirty. It's very important that we

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Speaker 11: keep the school open because the stuff that that doctor

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Speaker 11: events teaching these young boys can now be duplicated and

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Speaker 11: in Balmore City School and they have a ninety success

2180
02:16:59,640 --> 02:17:02,480
Speaker 11: rate and getting these kids through high school, and that

2181
02:17:02,640 --> 02:17:04,960
Speaker 11: cannot be matched by the ball City school system. And

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Speaker 11: AI cannot do this. AI cannot teach these kids out

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Speaker 11: of Takai how they conduct themselves, uh respectfully with other people,

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02:17:13,000 --> 02:17:14,960
Speaker 11: the people that are when they shake their hands. So

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02:17:15,600 --> 02:17:21,520
Speaker 11: that's let's be there enforced last year before they have

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Speaker 11: to vote. Not to say the least has already voted

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Speaker 11: against continuing that school. It's up to the school board

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02:17:26,920 --> 02:17:28,840
Speaker 11: to vote on whether or not they can confer They

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02:17:29,879 --> 02:17:33,680
Speaker 11: they are conferring with her, so we we've got to

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Speaker 11: be there in force the last hearing they vote next

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Speaker 11: Wednesday at June and fourteenth. Now, with regard to to AI,

2192
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Speaker 11: if we're gonna use AI anyway, I've always been on

2193
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Speaker 11: the side of if we're gonna use it at all.

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Speaker 4: It should not just benefit a.

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Speaker 11: Handful of people of billionaires, namely, and it should it

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Speaker 11: should go towards making our work days before our work

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02:17:58,520 --> 02:18:02,560
Speaker 11: day or twenty our work week because we're were't productive

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Speaker 11: and for the same pay. The billionaire should not be

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Speaker 11: the one one's benefit from this, if anybody's going to benefit,

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Speaker 11: and we should not left them because we paid for

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Speaker 11: it with our taxes and with you know, task cuts,

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Speaker 11: with research and involvement and uh and and and uh

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Speaker 11: uh the research that was conducted to our university, So

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Speaker 11: we own it. They are owned if well out and

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Speaker 11: as far as the uh, Elon Musk has always taken

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Speaker 11: a thinking step for further. He has a New York

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Speaker 11: a neurolink uh some uh what do they call it?

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02:18:33,000 --> 02:18:36,160
Speaker 11: Neurolink where they're actually putting ships in people's brains. Now

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Speaker 11: I think they've done one and they will go on

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Speaker 11: another one. So we got to be very careful with

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02:18:40,080 --> 02:18:43,560
Speaker 11: this technology and we cannot let it dominate us this time.

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Speaker 11: You knowledge to exist at all, it's going to be

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02:18:45,600 --> 02:18:47,800
Speaker 11: it needs to be the benefit the people and not

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02:18:48,000 --> 02:18:49,960
Speaker 11: just the billionaires. The people, and we need to be

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Speaker 11: in charge of it, not not these devices. Thank you

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Speaker 11: for your time.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you Eron. I that brothers can respond

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Speaker 1: when we get back. We got to step aside so

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02:18:57,879 --> 02:19:00,720
Speaker 1: stations can identify themselves down the line. It's three minutes

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Speaker 1: away from the top of our family. Our guest is

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Speaker 1: futuristic researcher brother Sideka Bakari. What are your thoughts? You

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02:19:05,760 --> 02:19:07,879
Speaker 1: want to join this conversation, reach out to us at

2223
02:19:07,959 --> 02:19:11,480
Speaker 1: eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six and

2224
02:19:11,520 --> 02:19:14,400
Speaker 1: we'll take a phone calls next and ground rising families.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for staying with us, say I guess the futuristic

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Speaker 1: researcher brother Sideka Bakari. Before we left, Tyrone and Baltimore

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02:19:20,520 --> 02:19:23,080
Speaker 1: had a question. And by the way, Tyron, please finally

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Speaker 1: report for us tomorrow on that meeting. We got to

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Speaker 1: keep that school open in Baltimore. But brother Sideka Tyrone's

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Speaker 1: a question about we should control AI. Is that a possibility?

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Speaker 1: Or he says, we keep it out the hands of

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Speaker 1: the rich folks? Is that a possibility? We can control

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02:19:37,400 --> 02:19:39,080
Speaker 1: the little people can control AI.

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Speaker 3: We don't need to control AI. We need to control ourselves. See,

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02:19:43,480 --> 02:19:46,880
Speaker 3: it's just a problem. We need to control ourselves. We

2236
02:19:47,040 --> 02:19:50,279
Speaker 3: need to tap into our selves. We need to understand

2237
02:19:50,360 --> 02:19:53,840
Speaker 3: the power of ourselves. AI is not more powerful than us.

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02:19:53,920 --> 02:19:56,560
Speaker 3: We make it more powerful by being a shell of

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Speaker 3: ourselves and continuing to be operating in foreign everything. That's

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Speaker 3: the issue, alien everything, meaning not of us or from us.

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Speaker 3: So that's the issue. He mentioned Elon Musk and neurallink. Listen,

2242
02:20:12,760 --> 02:20:16,680
Speaker 3: that's not something new, all right. So for the listener,

2243
02:20:16,720 --> 02:20:22,080
Speaker 3: study transhumanism. Just study transhumanism and you understand these are

2244
02:20:22,160 --> 02:20:26,280
Speaker 3: not new innovations or concepts, all right. It's just we

2245
02:20:26,440 --> 02:20:30,440
Speaker 3: don't know and understand that these things are taking place

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02:20:30,520 --> 02:20:34,520
Speaker 3: because all we're talking about we're talking about people instead

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02:20:34,560 --> 02:20:38,920
Speaker 3: of systems. So we talk about Trump instead of the system.

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02:20:39,360 --> 02:20:43,120
Speaker 3: We talk about Elon Musk instead of the system.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 3: So that's our problem, and that's based on programming. Just

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02:20:48,400 --> 02:20:52,520
Speaker 3: so everyone understands that, all right. Now, when we talk

2252
02:20:52,560 --> 02:20:56,400
Speaker 3: about neural link, what's the original neural lik? Your pineal gland,

2253
02:20:56,400 --> 02:21:00,080
Speaker 3: your black God. That's the reason it's calcified intentionally. You

2254
02:21:00,200 --> 02:21:04,880
Speaker 3: can't tap into the universe, the cosmos, the ancients, your ancestors,

2255
02:21:05,200 --> 02:21:07,879
Speaker 3: and things of that nature. The greatest essence that exists

2256
02:21:07,920 --> 02:21:12,400
Speaker 3: within you. That's the purpose of these things, and what's

2257
02:21:12,440 --> 02:21:15,720
Speaker 3: happening again to disconnect you from you, So why would

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02:21:15,720 --> 02:21:19,080
Speaker 3: we want to control a neural link? See, this is

2259
02:21:19,120 --> 02:21:23,440
Speaker 3: the problem. We don't understand the power of intuition. We

2260
02:21:23,520 --> 02:21:27,000
Speaker 3: don't understand the power of our imagination. If we were

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02:21:27,080 --> 02:21:31,520
Speaker 3: tapped into our intuition and imagination, we can outcreate anything

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Speaker 3: that these people are attempting to do or the system

2263
02:21:35,320 --> 02:21:38,600
Speaker 3: is attempting to do with these technologies. But because we

2264
02:21:38,720 --> 02:21:42,480
Speaker 3: are so far away from ourselves, we no longer are

2265
02:21:42,560 --> 02:21:46,119
Speaker 3: tapping into those powers. We think all these other things

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02:21:46,480 --> 02:21:50,760
Speaker 3: are superior and supreme and great and omnipotent and omnicient

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02:21:50,879 --> 02:21:53,760
Speaker 3: and all of these different things, when in essence, that's

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02:21:53,840 --> 02:21:56,000
Speaker 3: already part of who in what we are. But it's

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02:21:56,040 --> 02:22:02,680
Speaker 3: the programming that's not allowing people to it too, that

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02:22:02,959 --> 02:22:07,400
Speaker 3: essence of ourselves, that innate essence, that divinity, that emergence

2271
02:22:07,440 --> 02:22:09,720
Speaker 3: of being this or that kepra So we're not going

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Speaker 3: through that transformation.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha? Got some more folks want to talk to you

2274
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Speaker 1: for after top Day Derek's callers from Colorado is online

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Speaker 1: two Grand Rising. Derek, You're on with brother Sadiki.

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Speaker 10: Again rising to you, I have a cousin who's currently

2277
02:22:25,200 --> 02:22:27,760
Speaker 10: who the all the time, she runs a business. She

2278
02:22:27,920 --> 02:22:30,680
Speaker 10: tells us she has himself there with business plans and

2279
02:22:30,840 --> 02:22:35,360
Speaker 10: every everything else like that, do business and everything. I

2280
02:22:35,400 --> 02:22:37,879
Speaker 10: don't know if you ever saw a sixty minutes special

2281
02:22:38,000 --> 02:22:41,920
Speaker 10: they had less Sunday, they had these I guess they

2282
02:22:41,959 --> 02:22:45,320
Speaker 10: were robots or something, and they just speeded it up.

2283
02:22:45,440 --> 02:22:48,160
Speaker 10: So now these robots are able to talk back and

2284
02:22:48,280 --> 02:22:51,440
Speaker 10: everything else like that, it can't be a bit more concerned.

2285
02:22:51,520 --> 02:22:54,720
Speaker 10: But he said, you know something, they were concerned when

2286
02:22:54,800 --> 02:22:58,240
Speaker 10: the I'm a Bill came on because somebody who was

2287
02:22:58,640 --> 02:23:01,600
Speaker 10: doing showing horse is he was going to.

2288
02:23:01,600 --> 02:23:02,520
Speaker 4: Be out of a job or.

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02:23:05,280 --> 02:23:06,960
Speaker 10: That's what they were saying. But now they said it

2290
02:23:06,959 --> 02:23:09,119
Speaker 10: would be AI. It was going to free up people

2291
02:23:09,200 --> 02:23:16,119
Speaker 10: to to let's work for us. And she says it's

2292
02:23:16,280 --> 02:23:19,080
Speaker 10: very ran, very beneficial to her. In fact, I've used

2293
02:23:19,080 --> 02:23:23,160
Speaker 10: it myself, and a lot of people are using that

2294
02:23:23,320 --> 02:23:26,960
Speaker 10: for like you said, when they were trying to convey

2295
02:23:27,080 --> 02:23:30,040
Speaker 10: something to other people. I mean, I forgot the kind

2296
02:23:30,080 --> 02:23:32,560
Speaker 10: of she does, some kind of business I can't remember,

2297
02:23:33,560 --> 02:23:36,960
Speaker 10: but she said he's been very beneficial to her and

2298
02:23:37,520 --> 02:23:39,840
Speaker 10: the thing on sixty The thing on sixty minutes was

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Speaker 10: very Uh. I don't know if you got a chance.

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Speaker 8: To see it.

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02:23:44,240 --> 02:23:47,039
Speaker 10: There was this last Sunday and you did.

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Speaker 3: Thanks that particular show. But it's it's the same things

2303
02:23:55,920 --> 02:23:59,000
Speaker 3: I'm seeing. Nothing changes. It's about programming. So if you've

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02:23:59,000 --> 02:24:02,920
Speaker 3: seen one, you've seen all. It's about programming. And again

2305
02:24:03,160 --> 02:24:07,120
Speaker 3: I want to preface this for people. The media is

2306
02:24:07,160 --> 02:24:12,080
Speaker 3: a psychological operation. It is about fear based programming, trauma

2307
02:24:12,160 --> 02:24:15,840
Speaker 3: based programming, and emotional based programming. So there is a

2308
02:24:15,959 --> 02:24:21,040
Speaker 3: narrative that they are pushing on the mainstream in order

2309
02:24:21,160 --> 02:24:25,280
Speaker 3: to benefit them the system. And all of this is documented,

2310
02:24:25,440 --> 02:24:30,600
Speaker 3: like these are facts, all right, All of this is documented,

2311
02:24:30,680 --> 02:24:34,080
Speaker 3: So we understand from psychology, we understand from psychiatry, we

2312
02:24:34,280 --> 02:24:38,880
Speaker 3: understand from social behavior and engineering and all these different

2313
02:24:38,959 --> 02:24:43,480
Speaker 3: things what's taking place. Many of our elder scholars have

2314
02:24:43,640 --> 02:24:47,080
Speaker 3: taught about this, Our ancestor scholars have taught about this.

2315
02:24:47,760 --> 02:24:51,200
Speaker 3: So I mean neither facts. It's not something that I'm

2316
02:24:51,280 --> 02:24:53,560
Speaker 3: being creative and just making up and people need to

2317
02:24:53,640 --> 02:24:57,040
Speaker 3: understand it. So these narratives are these narratives for a reason.

2318
02:24:57,400 --> 02:25:02,560
Speaker 3: So again, the purpose is to disconnect you from the

2319
02:25:02,720 --> 02:25:07,320
Speaker 3: process of your process. All right, So are you mastering

2320
02:25:07,480 --> 02:25:13,320
Speaker 3: AI or is AI mastering you? That's the question. And

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02:25:13,440 --> 02:25:15,920
Speaker 3: let me make this clear. You are not mastering AI

2322
02:25:16,440 --> 02:25:20,840
Speaker 3: because again, you are dealing with low level tier AI.

2323
02:25:21,680 --> 02:25:24,400
Speaker 3: That's what you're dealing with. You're not dealing with the

2324
02:25:24,560 --> 02:25:29,560
Speaker 3: advanced so called advanced AI. That's not what you're dealing with.

2325
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Speaker 3: Why would again, why would the system You might as

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02:25:33,920 --> 02:25:36,640
Speaker 3: well say your enemy. Let's be frank, Why would your

2327
02:25:36,760 --> 02:25:39,560
Speaker 3: enemy give you what you need to be free? This

2328
02:25:39,760 --> 02:25:41,800
Speaker 3: is why I keep saying stop dealing with people and

2329
02:25:41,920 --> 02:25:46,360
Speaker 3: deal with systems. This system that exists today does not

2330
02:25:46,560 --> 02:25:51,600
Speaker 3: exist for you to free yourselves or change it. That's

2331
02:25:51,680 --> 02:25:54,480
Speaker 3: not the purpose of it. It's not the purpose. So

2332
02:25:54,600 --> 02:25:57,200
Speaker 3: people to start asking about solutions and things of that nature.

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02:25:57,360 --> 02:26:01,400
Speaker 3: I've given you solutions this whole interview. I'm telling you

2334
02:26:01,520 --> 02:26:08,920
Speaker 3: exactly what we need to do period, your intuition, your imagination.

2335
02:26:09,240 --> 02:26:12,080
Speaker 3: I'm giving you the solutions you tap into those things.

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Speaker 3: We keep talking about what AI is going to do

2337
02:26:14,560 --> 02:26:18,320
Speaker 3: for us, What are you going to do for yourselves?

2338
02:26:20,840 --> 02:26:24,800
Speaker 3: That's the question, because AI is just taking the place

2339
02:26:24,840 --> 02:26:26,800
Speaker 3: of what you expect the government to do for you.

2340
02:26:27,680 --> 02:26:29,920
Speaker 3: Which the government is not going to do for you,

2341
02:26:30,360 --> 02:26:34,200
Speaker 3: nor is AI. Now I'm not telling people not to

2342
02:26:35,640 --> 02:26:37,879
Speaker 3: know how to maneuver AI and if you can use

2343
02:26:37,959 --> 02:26:40,600
Speaker 3: AI to assist you, but be clear what I mean

2344
02:26:40,720 --> 02:26:44,840
Speaker 3: when I say that you're not using it as a disadvantage.

2345
02:26:45,200 --> 02:26:47,160
Speaker 3: So all the things I laid out as far as

2346
02:26:47,240 --> 02:26:49,800
Speaker 3: chad GPT and how it affects the brain, how it

2347
02:26:49,879 --> 02:26:56,119
Speaker 3: affects you neurologically, how it creates psychosis. So obviously there's

2348
02:26:56,160 --> 02:27:01,520
Speaker 3: an issue there because there's disadvantage if you're using chat

2349
02:27:01,640 --> 02:27:04,440
Speaker 3: GPT or some other type of operating system. That means

2350
02:27:04,480 --> 02:27:07,160
Speaker 3: you're not really using your brain, You're not really using

2351
02:27:07,200 --> 02:27:11,240
Speaker 3: your own capacities. That's an issue. That's a problem. Now

2352
02:27:11,280 --> 02:27:15,760
Speaker 3: you're becoming dependent on AI and technology, just like we're

2353
02:27:15,879 --> 02:27:19,880
Speaker 3: dependent on the government. See, we just got out of

2354
02:27:19,920 --> 02:27:22,120
Speaker 3: Quansas and then we get right back out of QUANSA

2355
02:27:22,200 --> 02:27:26,240
Speaker 3: into the government programming, so self determination out the window.

2356
02:27:26,240 --> 02:27:31,120
Speaker 3: We waiting until December twenty fourth or twenty six, twenty fourth,

2357
02:27:31,160 --> 02:27:35,680
Speaker 3: whichever day start. So we're waiting for that cooperative economics,

2358
02:27:35,959 --> 02:27:38,480
Speaker 3: all these different things. So we're waiting for QUANSA to

2359
02:27:38,560 --> 02:27:41,240
Speaker 3: come back around. You see what I mean, we get

2360
02:27:41,360 --> 02:27:43,760
Speaker 3: right back into the programming. So now we're talking about

2361
02:27:43,800 --> 02:27:46,760
Speaker 3: AI technology. It's going to free us, what it's going

2362
02:27:46,840 --> 02:27:49,320
Speaker 3: to do for us, it's the future, all these different

2363
02:27:49,400 --> 02:27:54,320
Speaker 3: things that's already part of the media narrative to program you.

2364
02:27:54,680 --> 02:27:58,840
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, let me go even deeper to make

2365
02:27:58,920 --> 02:28:02,280
Speaker 3: this clearer for you. So this is it's a sister

2366
02:28:02,400 --> 02:28:04,080
Speaker 3: named Lauren. I'm not going to say her whole name.

2367
02:28:04,280 --> 02:28:06,480
Speaker 3: It's a sister named Lauren. This was a post that

2368
02:28:06,600 --> 02:28:09,920
Speaker 3: she had on social media, and through my twenty years

2369
02:28:10,160 --> 02:28:15,080
Speaker 3: of specific research on AI technology, transhumanism, you know, generally

2370
02:28:15,200 --> 02:28:19,760
Speaker 3: in technology, these are facts. So I thought this was

2371
02:28:19,800 --> 02:28:24,840
Speaker 3: something I should give to the Call Nelson listeners. All right, Now,

2372
02:28:25,000 --> 02:28:30,160
Speaker 3: first of all, when you deal with the different AI systems, CHAT, GPT,

2373
02:28:30,360 --> 02:28:33,440
Speaker 3: whatever we're talking about here in regards to technology, it's

2374
02:28:33,520 --> 02:28:38,760
Speaker 3: going to be disguised as convenience or oh it helps

2375
02:28:38,800 --> 02:28:45,720
Speaker 3: me leverage time, convenience or safety. Convenience or safety, so

2376
02:28:45,840 --> 02:28:50,200
Speaker 3: it's going to be justified packaged this safety, disguised as

2377
02:28:50,280 --> 02:28:54,600
Speaker 3: innovation and sold as convenience. Now, let's look at the

2378
02:28:54,720 --> 02:28:58,680
Speaker 3: methods A chip in your hand to make shopping easier,

2379
02:28:59,560 --> 02:29:03,600
Speaker 3: facial recognition, just to protect you and let me go

2380
02:29:03,720 --> 02:29:05,360
Speaker 3: slower because I want to make sure y'all get it.

2381
02:29:05,480 --> 02:29:12,119
Speaker 3: Chip in your hand to make shopping easier. Facial recognition

2382
02:29:13,160 --> 02:29:16,360
Speaker 3: just to protect you, right, the whole terrorism thing and

2383
02:29:16,400 --> 02:29:21,680
Speaker 3: all of that, right. Digital currency and I want to

2384
02:29:21,680 --> 02:29:23,800
Speaker 3: make sure we get into that before the show ends too.

2385
02:29:24,120 --> 02:29:29,880
Speaker 3: Digital currency just to modernize the economy. If you don't

2386
02:29:30,000 --> 02:29:33,800
Speaker 3: get involved, you're going to get left behind. Okay, Social

2387
02:29:33,879 --> 02:29:42,480
Speaker 3: scoring just to promote good behavior. Mandatory digital ID just

2388
02:29:42,640 --> 02:29:50,440
Speaker 3: to simplify verification. Smart cities just to make life more efficient.

2389
02:29:52,480 --> 02:29:59,760
Speaker 3: Biometric scans at checkpoints just to keep everyone safe. AI

2390
02:30:00,160 --> 02:30:06,840
Speaker 3: monitoring your posts this social media just to prevent misinformation.

2391
02:30:07,040 --> 02:30:10,879
Speaker 3: Some of these things you already see happening. Cashless systems

2392
02:30:10,959 --> 02:30:19,360
Speaker 3: only just to speed up transactions. Microchips for children to

2393
02:30:19,640 --> 02:30:28,040
Speaker 3: prevent abductions. Say it again, microchips for children to prevent abductions.

2394
02:30:29,440 --> 02:30:38,000
Speaker 3: Emotion tracking software just to monitor mental health. So again,

2395
02:30:38,400 --> 02:30:41,360
Speaker 3: this is a post by a sister named Lauren. I

2396
02:30:41,440 --> 02:30:43,640
Speaker 3: think the original post is from a sister named Tia,

2397
02:30:43,879 --> 02:30:46,400
Speaker 3: So I just wanted to lay that out for people.

2398
02:30:46,480 --> 02:30:50,280
Speaker 3: So it's not about convenience, it's about control, and you

2399
02:30:50,640 --> 02:30:54,800
Speaker 3: freely give them the access because of the manipulation, the

2400
02:30:54,920 --> 02:30:58,000
Speaker 3: programming and the desensitization that I just read to you,

2401
02:30:58,400 --> 02:31:01,120
Speaker 3: and how they're going to do it. You remember COVID,

2402
02:31:02,800 --> 02:31:06,560
Speaker 3: it's the same script, all right. So it's about safety,

2403
02:31:06,680 --> 02:31:10,440
Speaker 3: security efficiency. That's how it's going to be sold. Has

2404
02:31:10,520 --> 02:31:15,160
Speaker 3: already been sold and already been marketed, all right. That's

2405
02:31:15,240 --> 02:31:21,320
Speaker 3: what we need to understand. Period. This is science. This

2406
02:31:21,520 --> 02:31:25,920
Speaker 3: is how the programming works. And I've validated that tons

2407
02:31:25,959 --> 02:31:28,800
Speaker 3: and tons of times on this show, specifically dealing with

2408
02:31:30,720 --> 02:31:35,400
Speaker 3: mind control programming and things of that nature. All right,

2409
02:31:35,640 --> 02:31:37,920
Speaker 3: And just so everybody understands what we're talking about on

2410
02:31:38,040 --> 02:31:42,360
Speaker 3: this show, and just technology in general, Nuclear Thought and

2411
02:31:42,480 --> 02:31:47,120
Speaker 3: Anatomic Algorithms. Nuclear Thought and Anatomic Algorithms, I've wrote written

2412
02:31:47,160 --> 02:31:51,760
Speaker 3: an extensive book dealing with these topics, Nuclear Thoughts and

2413
02:31:51,879 --> 02:31:56,280
Speaker 3: Anatomic Algorithms. So you can email me if you're interested

2414
02:31:56,360 --> 02:31:59,359
Speaker 3: in that book. My email is Sadiki Bacari at hotmail

2415
02:31:59,440 --> 02:32:04,000
Speaker 3: dot com s A D I K I Sadik Bakari

2416
02:32:04,280 --> 02:32:08,800
Speaker 3: b A K A R I one word Sadiq Bakari

2417
02:32:09,200 --> 02:32:11,840
Speaker 3: at hotmail dot com and we'll get that book to you.

2418
02:32:12,200 --> 02:32:16,520
Speaker 3: Nuclear Thought and Anatomic algorithms. Again, is this book is

2419
02:32:16,640 --> 02:32:23,240
Speaker 3: extensive in regards to dealing with AI, transhumanism, the different technologies, CHAT, GPT,

2420
02:32:23,400 --> 02:32:26,400
Speaker 3: all these different technologies and what that really means from

2421
02:32:26,440 --> 02:32:32,560
Speaker 3: an African perspective, right, dealing with today and where that's

2422
02:32:32,560 --> 02:32:35,520
Speaker 3: headed into the future. So if you're interested in the book,

2423
02:32:35,680 --> 02:32:40,120
Speaker 3: just email me. Email me for that. Also some upcoming classes,

2424
02:32:40,200 --> 02:32:43,520
Speaker 3: email me for that. Don't email me just for some

2425
02:32:43,640 --> 02:32:46,080
Speaker 3: anatomant questions or something like that. I'm not going to

2426
02:32:46,120 --> 02:32:48,400
Speaker 3: return to email. I have too many clients who I'm

2427
02:32:48,400 --> 02:32:52,680
Speaker 3: working with to deal with. Just I can forth emails,

2428
02:32:52,879 --> 02:32:59,120
Speaker 3: all right, So that's what's happening with that. So where

2429
02:32:59,160 --> 02:33:00,160
Speaker 3: you want to go from io?

2430
02:33:00,240 --> 02:33:02,440
Speaker 1: All right? There at better say your fifteen a half.

2431
02:33:02,480 --> 02:33:04,080
Speaker 1: On top of that, we'll come up a break real soon. So,

2432
02:33:04,160 --> 02:33:07,200
Speaker 1: but I got a tweet question. Tweeter says, will you

2433
02:33:07,320 --> 02:33:09,800
Speaker 1: ask brother Zadiga if he's familiar with the book cal

2434
02:33:09,840 --> 02:33:10,760
Speaker 1: And mentioned earlier?

2435
02:33:11,000 --> 02:33:11,879
Speaker 3: Are you are?

2436
02:33:12,720 --> 02:33:14,520
Speaker 1: He goes on to say, it was printed in ninety

2437
02:33:14,560 --> 02:33:17,600
Speaker 1: in the nineteen twenties during the industrial era, and they

2438
02:33:17,640 --> 02:33:20,880
Speaker 1: were already planning a robot takeover. You want you to

2439
02:33:20,879 --> 02:33:22,039
Speaker 1: know if you're familiar with that book?

2440
02:33:22,640 --> 02:33:27,360
Speaker 3: No, I'm not familiar with that book. But however, transhumanism

2441
02:33:27,480 --> 02:33:30,800
Speaker 3: is something that's been a serious conversation for the last century,

2442
02:33:31,320 --> 02:33:36,400
Speaker 3: so I'm not surprised that that book would exist. This

2443
02:33:36,600 --> 02:33:39,600
Speaker 3: is not new. So again, this is what I'm saying,

2444
02:33:39,840 --> 02:33:44,200
Speaker 3: we're behind all right, This conversation has been happening for

2445
02:33:44,600 --> 02:33:47,960
Speaker 3: a century. You can go back to the hux Leys

2446
02:33:48,040 --> 02:33:50,320
Speaker 3: and it's a ton of people who've been dealing with this.

2447
02:33:50,680 --> 02:33:53,280
Speaker 3: You can even go back to the Nazis, all right,

2448
02:33:53,560 --> 02:33:56,720
Speaker 3: So like this, these are not new conversations. We're just

2449
02:33:56,920 --> 02:34:00,480
Speaker 3: new to the conversation, all right. This is why it

2450
02:34:00,560 --> 02:34:04,039
Speaker 3: was important for me to make sure that I stayed

2451
02:34:04,040 --> 02:34:07,360
Speaker 3: in this lane, and I did the tens of thousands

2452
02:34:07,400 --> 02:34:10,640
Speaker 3: of hours of research specifically dealing with AI and the

2453
02:34:10,720 --> 02:34:15,400
Speaker 3: many different aspects of technology. Initially was mainly focused on transhumanism,

2454
02:34:15,600 --> 02:34:18,680
Speaker 3: all right, So I already understood what all of this is,

2455
02:34:19,120 --> 02:34:24,720
Speaker 3: this notion of the religious side of it versus spirituality.

2456
02:34:25,160 --> 02:34:29,320
Speaker 3: Like I've turned these topics inside out. What we have

2457
02:34:29,480 --> 02:34:34,040
Speaker 3: to understand as black people, as Africans is everything has

2458
02:34:34,120 --> 02:34:38,680
Speaker 3: been inverted. So all of your spiritual concepts, your spiritual principles,

2459
02:34:38,760 --> 02:34:42,800
Speaker 3: the spiritual technology the spiritual intelligence, the rituals, the sidils,

2460
02:34:42,879 --> 02:34:47,560
Speaker 3: the tradition, the culture, the connection to nature, the animals,

2461
02:34:47,640 --> 02:34:50,080
Speaker 3: to the cosmos, to other humans, to the universe has

2462
02:34:50,120 --> 02:34:54,760
Speaker 3: been inverted and given back to you. Now we operate

2463
02:34:55,160 --> 02:35:00,200
Speaker 3: based off of the inversion, which disconnects us from who

2464
02:35:00,280 --> 02:35:01,600
Speaker 3: and what we are in our power.

2465
02:35:03,959 --> 02:35:05,280
Speaker 1: All right, hold, I thought right there, We've got to

2466
02:35:05,280 --> 02:35:07,039
Speaker 1: step aside for a few months to come back Charles

2467
02:35:07,120 --> 02:35:08,800
Speaker 1: and Baltimore has a question for you. And also when

2468
02:35:08,879 --> 02:35:12,880
Speaker 1: you talk about these these smart cities, they're built in

2469
02:35:13,080 --> 02:35:17,040
Speaker 1: Ghana and built also in Kenya and they don't have

2470
02:35:17,120 --> 02:35:19,880
Speaker 1: to report to the government as well. These folks over

2471
02:35:19,959 --> 02:35:22,560
Speaker 1: this side of the Atlantic Ocean testing that these smart

2472
02:35:22,600 --> 02:35:24,680
Speaker 1: cities in Africas. I want you to address that when

2473
02:35:24,680 --> 02:35:26,480
Speaker 1: we get back. Family, you two can get in on

2474
02:35:26,600 --> 02:35:29,320
Speaker 1: this conversation with brother Sadeka Bakari. Just reach out to

2475
02:35:29,440 --> 02:35:33,240
Speaker 1: us at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy

2476
02:35:33,280 --> 02:35:35,520
Speaker 1: six and we'll take your phone calls next and Grand

2477
02:35:35,600 --> 02:35:38,160
Speaker 1: Rising family, thanks us sticking with us on this Thursday

2478
02:35:38,200 --> 02:35:40,480
Speaker 1: morning here with brother Sadeka Baccari is a futurist. You

2479
02:35:40,520 --> 02:35:42,400
Speaker 1: could research it. Giving us an update on what's going

2480
02:35:42,480 --> 02:35:45,480
Speaker 1: on with AI? Artificial intelligence? Before we left for the break,

2481
02:35:45,560 --> 02:35:47,879
Speaker 1: I mentioned that Charles in Baltimore has a question. First,

2482
02:35:47,879 --> 02:35:51,520
Speaker 1: he's online one grand rising Charles your question for brother Sadiki?

2483
02:35:53,200 --> 02:35:54,800
Speaker 8: Yes, everybody going today?

2484
02:35:55,640 --> 02:35:56,080
Speaker 3: It's great?

2485
02:35:57,680 --> 02:36:00,160
Speaker 8: All right, greed is well, let me get in to

2486
02:36:00,240 --> 02:36:06,280
Speaker 8: it AI as we know it is actually the dark web,

2487
02:36:07,160 --> 02:36:11,440
Speaker 8: and the dark web is what we're talking about when

2488
02:36:11,480 --> 02:36:18,240
Speaker 8: we talk about you know, the Internet or these apps

2489
02:36:19,000 --> 02:36:23,840
Speaker 8: or digital and so people they gotta understand. So we

2490
02:36:23,959 --> 02:36:28,320
Speaker 8: got to start to ask ourselves because we're impacted by

2491
02:36:28,440 --> 02:36:32,080
Speaker 8: all this, but we got to ask ourselves, how reliable

2492
02:36:32,560 --> 02:36:37,720
Speaker 8: is this? How accurate is this? What is the performance

2493
02:36:37,920 --> 02:36:42,840
Speaker 8: rate score? Are there any fail safes? You know, do

2494
02:36:43,040 --> 02:36:46,840
Speaker 8: we have any impact studies? Because we're supposed to be

2495
02:36:47,040 --> 02:36:51,440
Speaker 8: the smart, astute people, But when do we get into

2496
02:36:51,600 --> 02:36:55,120
Speaker 8: the frame. When do we get in the mix, because

2497
02:36:55,160 --> 02:36:58,920
Speaker 8: it seems like we're standing on the outside asking questions

2498
02:36:59,360 --> 02:37:04,520
Speaker 8: like a fool instead of being the people that actually

2499
02:37:04,720 --> 02:37:09,280
Speaker 8: occupy the land and have I steak in what's going on?

2500
02:37:10,240 --> 02:37:14,200
Speaker 8: I mean, we don't discuss what's really happening. We just

2501
02:37:14,520 --> 02:37:18,080
Speaker 8: gloss over it. And that's what we get when we

2502
02:37:18,240 --> 02:37:21,959
Speaker 8: have the Internet and when we deal with the dark Web.

2503
02:37:22,680 --> 02:37:25,480
Speaker 8: That's what we see going on around us and we

2504
02:37:25,760 --> 02:37:30,039
Speaker 8: just don't understand, but it's happening, all right.

2505
02:37:30,240 --> 02:37:33,039
Speaker 1: Give him a chance to respond. Thanks, Charles brother, your

2506
02:37:33,120 --> 02:37:34,320
Speaker 1: thoughts on what Charles just said.

2507
02:37:35,320 --> 02:37:38,640
Speaker 3: Okay, So I think those are all pertinent questions. So

2508
02:37:38,760 --> 02:37:42,480
Speaker 3: I would concur in regards to the questions. So again,

2509
02:37:43,040 --> 02:37:46,480
Speaker 3: in regards to AI and technology, many of these technologies,

2510
02:37:47,320 --> 02:37:51,520
Speaker 3: people who look like us are the ones creating these technologies.

2511
02:37:52,520 --> 02:37:55,440
Speaker 3: So it's not that we're not, in defrail part of it.

2512
02:37:56,560 --> 02:38:01,000
Speaker 3: It's we're being controlled and manipulated by the people who

2513
02:38:01,080 --> 02:38:06,240
Speaker 3: control and manipulate it. So the issue is, just as

2514
02:38:06,280 --> 02:38:11,400
Speaker 3: we deal with any other system, those of us who

2515
02:38:11,760 --> 02:38:16,200
Speaker 3: have the knowledge any quote unquote intelligence in regards to

2516
02:38:16,400 --> 02:38:21,600
Speaker 3: this particular system are bought and paid for by the system. See,

2517
02:38:21,680 --> 02:38:25,400
Speaker 3: this is just the reality that we're dealing with. So

2518
02:38:25,560 --> 02:38:30,440
Speaker 3: it's not that we're not part of it. Who is

2519
02:38:30,520 --> 02:38:35,200
Speaker 3: our allegiance to So do we learn this stuff and

2520
02:38:35,280 --> 02:38:38,840
Speaker 3: bring it back to our people to deal with it

2521
02:38:38,959 --> 02:38:44,600
Speaker 3: from a perspective of spiritual technology first? Or do we

2522
02:38:45,240 --> 02:38:50,720
Speaker 3: create the technologies and then allow the system to immerse

2523
02:38:50,920 --> 02:38:56,320
Speaker 3: us into it? Take the paycheck, and now we're helping

2524
02:38:56,360 --> 02:38:58,400
Speaker 3: the system do what the system needs to do with it,

2525
02:38:58,480 --> 02:39:03,119
Speaker 3: which is military and warfare. So this is the same

2526
02:39:03,200 --> 02:39:05,320
Speaker 3: thing that's going on all what's been going on in

2527
02:39:05,400 --> 02:39:08,720
Speaker 3: the other systems, the educational system and all the other systems,

2528
02:39:08,760 --> 02:39:11,480
Speaker 3: the political system. This is the same thing when we

2529
02:39:11,560 --> 02:39:16,200
Speaker 3: deal with the system of technology. So this is what

2530
02:39:16,320 --> 02:39:20,960
Speaker 3: we're dealing with. And again, who even says that we

2531
02:39:21,120 --> 02:39:24,040
Speaker 3: need to be part of that system to begin with?

2532
02:39:26,600 --> 02:39:29,519
Speaker 3: So it's always as if we have to absolve ourselves

2533
02:39:30,080 --> 02:39:37,080
Speaker 3: into the system. Well, why can't we create our own? See,

2534
02:39:37,120 --> 02:39:39,880
Speaker 3: this is where I'm at. Why can't we create our

2535
02:39:39,920 --> 02:39:45,000
Speaker 3: own This is why I do what I do. You

2536
02:39:45,120 --> 02:39:48,000
Speaker 3: don't hear people talking about AI and technology like this.

2537
02:39:48,280 --> 02:39:55,360
Speaker 3: It's a reason you think they're inviting me to NBC

2538
02:39:55,879 --> 02:39:58,800
Speaker 3: and all those other types of stations, which I would

2539
02:39:58,840 --> 02:40:01,840
Speaker 3: not accept the invitation. But the point is, why don't

2540
02:40:01,879 --> 02:40:06,600
Speaker 3: they invite me? So you have to understand I'm talking

2541
02:40:06,640 --> 02:40:10,680
Speaker 3: to everyone here. You have to understand this is the

2542
02:40:10,760 --> 02:40:25,000
Speaker 3: reason I painstakingly deal with psychological operations, trauma, fear, healing, transformation, empowerment.

2543
02:40:25,720 --> 02:40:27,879
Speaker 3: I've come on the show the last three times, specifically

2544
02:40:27,920 --> 02:40:33,560
Speaker 3: dealing with those things. It's a reason again if we

2545
02:40:33,760 --> 02:40:40,359
Speaker 3: are not deprogramming and reprogramming ourselves and dealing with ourselves

2546
02:40:40,400 --> 02:40:45,200
Speaker 3: from an African center, meaning that's the foundation, that's the blueprint,

2547
02:40:45,560 --> 02:40:50,480
Speaker 3: not looking at it through a European lens. We will

2548
02:40:50,560 --> 02:40:55,560
Speaker 3: continue to operate the same way and listen. These smart

2549
02:40:55,640 --> 02:40:58,840
Speaker 3: cities and digital idea, at least here in the United States.

2550
02:41:00,040 --> 02:41:05,960
Speaker 3: Don't understand people not ready for what's coming. It's much

2551
02:41:06,080 --> 02:41:10,640
Speaker 3: bigger than the chat GPT trap. It's much bigger than

2552
02:41:10,680 --> 02:41:12,920
Speaker 3: people think it is. A lot of these things that

2553
02:41:13,000 --> 02:41:16,480
Speaker 3: you've been seeing in movies is exactly what's happening. It's

2554
02:41:16,600 --> 02:41:20,960
Speaker 3: just not happening in such an exaggerated way. Just like

2555
02:41:22,160 --> 02:41:26,640
Speaker 3: the jab of COVID. They just did the media manipulation,

2556
02:41:27,040 --> 02:41:30,879
Speaker 3: the false narratives, the lies of programming, the fear based programming,

2557
02:41:30,959 --> 02:41:34,920
Speaker 3: the trauma based programming to trigger people into getting the shot.

2558
02:41:36,520 --> 02:41:38,680
Speaker 3: No one was at your door with a gun to

2559
02:41:38,760 --> 02:41:44,240
Speaker 3: your face. So the things that I mentioned in regards

2560
02:41:44,320 --> 02:41:50,080
Speaker 3: to the methods is exactly what they did for that.

2561
02:41:51,000 --> 02:41:57,000
Speaker 3: They do with terrorism, and they will continue to do convenience, efficiency,

2562
02:41:57,120 --> 02:42:03,600
Speaker 3: security and safety. It's going to be sold that way period.

2563
02:42:04,760 --> 02:42:08,600
Speaker 3: So what are we creating? That's the question, because we

2564
02:42:08,680 --> 02:42:10,600
Speaker 3: do a whole lot of complaining what are we creating?

2565
02:42:12,440 --> 02:42:15,320
Speaker 3: We're talking about people, what about systems? What are we creating?

2566
02:42:16,320 --> 02:42:19,519
Speaker 3: I can speak for myself. I have a system empower, technology,

2567
02:42:20,000 --> 02:42:24,200
Speaker 3: mastery system. It's a system. So I'm teaching people every

2568
02:42:24,320 --> 02:42:27,440
Speaker 3: day how to tap back into their spiritual selves. I'm

2569
02:42:27,480 --> 02:42:30,840
Speaker 3: teaching people every day how to transform themselves the tools

2570
02:42:30,879 --> 02:42:33,720
Speaker 3: that's necessary, and AI have nothing to do with it.

2571
02:42:33,840 --> 02:42:37,120
Speaker 3: And people are having tremendous success because they're doing the

2572
02:42:37,240 --> 02:42:39,879
Speaker 3: work and we have the tools. And these tools are

2573
02:42:39,959 --> 02:42:44,960
Speaker 3: based off of African synered news period. These tools are

2574
02:42:45,040 --> 02:42:48,039
Speaker 3: based off of ancient Africans in what they were doing

2575
02:42:48,400 --> 02:42:51,240
Speaker 3: to create what they created in which they are still

2576
02:42:51,320 --> 02:42:52,080
Speaker 3: creating today.

2577
02:42:52,680 --> 02:42:52,840
Speaker 8: Right.

2578
02:42:52,920 --> 02:42:55,520
Speaker 3: Even Quanza we just went through Quanza Quansa is an

2579
02:42:55,520 --> 02:42:57,760
Speaker 3: African thing. It's not a mind line of Karrangu thing.

2580
02:42:59,080 --> 02:43:05,959
Speaker 3: Those are facts. You think we were having first fruit

2581
02:43:06,040 --> 02:43:09,160
Speaker 3: festivals and harvests. Where do you think that comes from?

2582
02:43:09,480 --> 02:43:11,440
Speaker 3: Where do you think the principles and all these and

2583
02:43:12,000 --> 02:43:16,960
Speaker 3: more principles, where do you think they come from. I've

2584
02:43:17,040 --> 02:43:22,920
Speaker 3: documented a whole list of different African countries or people

2585
02:43:23,120 --> 02:43:29,600
Speaker 3: in those countries that have thousands of years of first

2586
02:43:29,640 --> 02:43:34,400
Speaker 3: fruit festivals and harvest periods throughout the year because they

2587
02:43:34,440 --> 02:43:38,680
Speaker 3: did rituals and siduls throughout the year in order to

2588
02:43:40,320 --> 02:43:45,760
Speaker 3: have this energetic power in regards to the actual harvesting itself.

2589
02:43:46,000 --> 02:43:52,119
Speaker 3: All right, So this is what I'm talking about. We're

2590
02:43:52,160 --> 02:43:56,000
Speaker 3: dealing with people as opposed to systems. What are we creating?

2591
02:43:56,879 --> 02:44:00,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, hold on thirty time at the top of their

2592
02:44:00,920 --> 02:44:02,800
Speaker 1: brother city. Can want to ask you about these smart

2593
02:44:02,840 --> 02:44:07,440
Speaker 1: cities though, that they're experimenting, experimenting with in Kenya and Ghana,

2594
02:44:07,600 --> 02:44:09,480
Speaker 1: and the people who are putting it on, of course

2595
02:44:09,480 --> 02:44:12,040
Speaker 1: they're from here, but they don't have to report to

2596
02:44:12,080 --> 02:44:15,400
Speaker 1: the Ghanaian government or the Kenyan government. What's it? What

2597
02:44:15,440 --> 02:44:17,160
Speaker 1: do you think is in these smart cities of the

2598
02:44:17,560 --> 02:44:19,480
Speaker 1: What sort of experiments do you think they're trying to

2599
02:44:19,560 --> 02:44:21,519
Speaker 1: run before they make it worldwide?

2600
02:44:23,080 --> 02:44:27,200
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not I'm not familiar with with that in

2601
02:44:27,360 --> 02:44:31,279
Speaker 3: Ghana or wherever else is going on in the continent.

2602
02:44:31,840 --> 02:44:36,080
Speaker 3: It's interesting that if so, if there's no reporting to

2603
02:44:36,240 --> 02:44:39,760
Speaker 3: the government, I would just want to know who's controlling

2604
02:44:41,200 --> 02:44:46,800
Speaker 3: these these smart cities, Like, who's controlling it? Is it corporations.

2605
02:44:47,080 --> 02:44:49,959
Speaker 3: If it's the people who are these people? Are these people?

2606
02:44:50,400 --> 02:44:52,520
Speaker 3: What type of people are these people? You see what

2607
02:44:52,600 --> 02:44:54,160
Speaker 3: I mean? Like, those are the questions.

2608
02:44:54,200 --> 02:44:56,119
Speaker 1: I can tell you one of them is Elon Musk,

2609
02:44:56,160 --> 02:44:56,920
Speaker 1: but go ahead.

2610
02:44:57,520 --> 02:44:59,800
Speaker 3: Oh well then okay, so it's controlled by the government,

2611
02:45:00,080 --> 02:45:03,640
Speaker 3: all right. So because Elon Musk is government, I mean,

2612
02:45:03,680 --> 02:45:07,920
Speaker 3: I'll I think people will understand that he's a representative

2613
02:45:08,400 --> 02:45:11,800
Speaker 3: of the government. He just looks like he can freestyle

2614
02:45:11,920 --> 02:45:14,320
Speaker 3: because he has money. But what happened when he went

2615
02:45:14,400 --> 02:45:19,680
Speaker 3: against the government or the means the goals of the government.

2616
02:45:19,959 --> 02:45:22,680
Speaker 3: He was ousted, all right, So now he's back in,

2617
02:45:22,959 --> 02:45:25,480
Speaker 3: meaning he's playing ball again. So that's how that works.

2618
02:45:25,520 --> 02:45:29,600
Speaker 3: But let's look at smart cities. Smart is an acronym

2619
02:45:31,080 --> 02:45:39,560
Speaker 3: self monitoring analysis reporting technology, self monitoring analysis reporting technology.

2620
02:45:39,760 --> 02:45:43,320
Speaker 3: So what is that already telling you? It's about surveillance

2621
02:45:43,360 --> 02:45:47,520
Speaker 3: and counterintelligence. All right, that's what it's about. Now what

2622
02:45:47,720 --> 02:45:52,199
Speaker 3: you've been hearing, especially since what happened in the fires

2623
02:45:52,240 --> 02:45:56,120
Speaker 3: out here in the different areas in LA, you've been

2624
02:45:56,200 --> 02:46:02,080
Speaker 3: hearing this term reimagining. Governor knew you really start hearing

2625
02:46:02,160 --> 02:46:06,400
Speaker 3: this term about reimagining, which is related to fifteen minute

2626
02:46:06,879 --> 02:46:10,400
Speaker 3: cities or smart cities. All right. Now, as I said,

2627
02:46:10,600 --> 02:46:13,920
Speaker 3: this is the new slavery, this is the new oppression

2628
02:46:14,280 --> 02:46:19,360
Speaker 3: through AI, algorithms and technology. All right, that's what you're

2629
02:46:19,440 --> 02:46:24,480
Speaker 3: dealing with. Now. That's also related to the CBDC, which

2630
02:46:24,560 --> 02:46:30,119
Speaker 3: is the central banking digital currency or digital ID. All right.

2631
02:46:30,320 --> 02:46:32,720
Speaker 3: All this is going to be connected and to keep

2632
02:46:32,800 --> 02:46:36,400
Speaker 3: you in It's the reason it's called fifteen minute city

2633
02:46:37,080 --> 02:46:40,960
Speaker 3: is to keep you within the fifteen minute radius. All right. Now,

2634
02:46:41,040 --> 02:46:44,360
Speaker 3: digital ID means that obviously they can track you. So

2635
02:46:44,560 --> 02:46:50,720
Speaker 3: now it's like creating fifteen minute slave camps. All right,

2636
02:46:51,240 --> 02:46:54,400
Speaker 3: Everything that you need will be in that fifteen minute radius.

2637
02:46:55,320 --> 02:47:00,120
Speaker 3: That's what the reimagining is or smart cities. That's that's

2638
02:47:00,120 --> 02:47:03,440
Speaker 3: what they're referring to are talking about. Now, how have

2639
02:47:03,600 --> 02:47:08,160
Speaker 3: they been promoting it? Again? We go back to the

2640
02:47:08,320 --> 02:47:12,720
Speaker 3: methods to protect you, to make shopping easier, modernize the economy,

2641
02:47:13,000 --> 02:47:16,480
Speaker 3: all of those different things that I went through on

2642
02:47:16,640 --> 02:47:21,280
Speaker 3: that list, all right, in regards to safety, security, efficiency,

2643
02:47:21,720 --> 02:47:26,280
Speaker 3: all right, that's what's happening. Just so everybody's clear. Now

2644
02:47:27,520 --> 02:47:31,640
Speaker 3: when we deal with the central banking digital currency or

2645
02:47:31,760 --> 02:47:34,800
Speaker 3: digital ID, which only happens if the people allow it

2646
02:47:34,879 --> 02:47:37,200
Speaker 3: to happen, but the people will allow it to happen

2647
02:47:37,240 --> 02:47:40,040
Speaker 3: because the people think AI is the future, just like

2648
02:47:40,120 --> 02:47:45,040
Speaker 3: the people thought that the actual JAB was protecting them

2649
02:47:45,959 --> 02:47:53,040
Speaker 3: from quote unquote COVID. All right, this is how we

2650
02:47:54,240 --> 02:47:58,080
Speaker 3: get around digital ID, so to speak. Number one, use cash.

2651
02:48:01,200 --> 02:48:06,200
Speaker 3: If you're not interfacing with the technologies, it begins to

2652
02:48:07,920 --> 02:48:11,480
Speaker 3: dissipate the technology. So in other words, all these things

2653
02:48:11,520 --> 02:48:14,880
Speaker 3: that they're doing with technology needs your participation, just like

2654
02:48:15,000 --> 02:48:19,080
Speaker 3: in general, the system needs your participation. So you complain,

2655
02:48:19,240 --> 02:48:25,840
Speaker 3: but you participate instead of creating what it is that

2656
02:48:26,000 --> 02:48:30,760
Speaker 3: we desire. Avoid apps that use digital ID. Avoid apps

2657
02:48:30,800 --> 02:48:36,680
Speaker 3: that use digital ID, all right. Disable biometrics on your phone.

2658
02:48:38,160 --> 02:48:43,400
Speaker 3: Disable biometrics on your phone, all right. You should be

2659
02:48:43,520 --> 02:48:47,760
Speaker 3: mature enough and responsible enough not to lose your phone

2660
02:48:48,240 --> 02:48:51,640
Speaker 3: or need some type of biometrics something on your phone.

2661
02:48:53,760 --> 02:48:56,760
Speaker 3: Pay with gift cards instead of link digital wallets. Pay

2662
02:48:56,840 --> 02:48:59,520
Speaker 3: with gift cards. So basically, what it's telling you is

2663
02:48:59,600 --> 02:49:02,360
Speaker 3: to refer as much as you can from using these

2664
02:49:02,480 --> 02:49:07,400
Speaker 3: digital aspects of society, and you don't have to. You

2665
02:49:07,600 --> 02:49:12,480
Speaker 3: just operate like you have to use physical documents. Do

2666
02:49:12,640 --> 02:49:17,840
Speaker 3: not consent to facial recognition opt out as much as possible.

2667
02:49:18,240 --> 02:49:21,119
Speaker 3: So when you're being asked to accept all these different

2668
02:49:21,240 --> 02:49:25,320
Speaker 3: digital apps and all these other things, opt out, don't

2669
02:49:25,360 --> 02:49:33,720
Speaker 3: accept it, ask for manual identification, manual identification support. Cash

2670
02:49:33,879 --> 02:49:40,960
Speaker 3: only businesses and entrepreneurs all right, create local trading and

2671
02:49:41,080 --> 02:49:44,160
Speaker 3: bartering systems. See again, what are we creating?

2672
02:49:45,320 --> 02:49:46,000
Speaker 8: That's the question.

2673
02:49:47,120 --> 02:49:49,640
Speaker 3: No one can deny what I'm saying. We are a

2674
02:49:49,800 --> 02:49:54,840
Speaker 3: complaining people. Now I can document that and validate that scientifically,

2675
02:49:55,160 --> 02:50:00,040
Speaker 3: because neurologically you're wired to be negative and disagreeable and

2676
02:50:00,160 --> 02:50:03,240
Speaker 3: to be a complainer. You're wired to be that way

2677
02:50:03,360 --> 02:50:09,320
Speaker 3: based on programming. That's easy work to document. So neurologically

2678
02:50:09,920 --> 02:50:14,200
Speaker 3: you've been wired to be that way. Think about that.

2679
02:50:14,760 --> 02:50:17,840
Speaker 3: You've been wired to be a complainer. You've been wired

2680
02:50:17,920 --> 02:50:25,840
Speaker 3: to be negative, You've been wired to be disagreeable neurologically, scientifically,

2681
02:50:26,720 --> 02:50:33,440
Speaker 3: because they understand you, you don't. Next question, Carla, where

2682
02:50:33,440 --> 02:50:34,000
Speaker 3: you want to go from me?

2683
02:50:35,560 --> 02:50:37,800
Speaker 1: Hushed yourself on the phone with Stevie and we're talking

2684
02:50:37,840 --> 02:50:41,040
Speaker 1: about AI and he told me to tell the folks,

2685
02:50:41,120 --> 02:50:42,920
Speaker 1: you know, don't believe that some of the because some

2686
02:50:43,000 --> 02:50:44,960
Speaker 1: of the stuff they're putting on about him on the

2687
02:50:45,040 --> 02:50:47,840
Speaker 1: Internet that he said, and he's not some money, it's

2688
02:50:47,959 --> 02:50:50,240
Speaker 1: just the final tour, he says. Don't believe any of that.

2689
02:50:50,400 --> 02:50:53,600
Speaker 1: He says, he's fine, he's doing well. He says, do

2690
02:50:53,720 --> 02:50:56,120
Speaker 1: you hear the voice of God? Don't believe that. And

2691
02:50:56,160 --> 02:50:58,600
Speaker 1: he says working on next project is called through the

2692
02:50:58,720 --> 02:51:00,800
Speaker 1: Eyes of Wonder and he's going to drop it on

2693
02:51:00,920 --> 02:51:04,880
Speaker 1: May fifteenth. So this this whole thing about AI, this

2694
02:51:05,040 --> 02:51:07,480
Speaker 1: is where people taking advantage and doing it for clicks

2695
02:51:07,680 --> 02:51:10,560
Speaker 1: and us using his name on it as well. But

2696
02:51:10,640 --> 02:51:11,960
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, well, let's take the break and we

2697
02:51:12,040 --> 02:51:14,280
Speaker 1: come back more information. Eight hundred and four or five

2698
02:51:14,400 --> 02:51:16,560
Speaker 1: zero seventy eight, This is seventy six. Speak to brother

2699
02:51:16,600 --> 02:51:19,760
Speaker 1: Sadeka Baccary. We'll take you calls next and Grand Rising family.

2700
02:51:19,840 --> 02:51:21,760
Speaker 1: Thanks for rolling with us on this Thursday morning with

2701
02:51:21,879 --> 02:51:26,160
Speaker 1: our guests, the futuristic researcher brother Sadeka Baccari discussing AI

2702
02:51:26,360 --> 02:51:29,280
Speaker 1: artificial intelligence. And I just mentioned before we left the

2703
02:51:29,320 --> 02:51:31,800
Speaker 1: break home a conversation with Stevie about this, because you've

2704
02:51:31,800 --> 02:51:34,760
Speaker 1: seen a lot of reports on the internet about him

2705
02:51:34,800 --> 02:51:37,000
Speaker 1: being sick, or he's going to his last fin up

2706
02:51:37,080 --> 02:51:39,560
Speaker 1: concert or all this kind of stuff. That's all that

2707
02:51:39,720 --> 02:51:41,920
Speaker 1: for clickbait. And he says until you hear it from

2708
02:51:42,040 --> 02:51:45,000
Speaker 1: his mouth or the voice of God, don't believe it.

2709
02:51:45,360 --> 02:51:47,920
Speaker 1: He says he's fine, his family's fine, he's doing well.

2710
02:51:48,280 --> 02:51:51,080
Speaker 1: He also says his next project is called Through the

2711
02:51:51,160 --> 02:51:53,760
Speaker 1: Eyes of Wonder. He's going to drop that on May fifteenth,

2712
02:51:53,800 --> 02:51:56,400
Speaker 1: two days after his birthday coming up this year. So

2713
02:51:57,480 --> 02:51:59,160
Speaker 1: you know, all this stuff that we've been talking about

2714
02:51:59,400 --> 02:52:02,160
Speaker 1: the internet and doing it for clicks, that's what's going on.

2715
02:52:02,840 --> 02:52:05,400
Speaker 1: And they're taking advantage of people like him. And I

2716
02:52:05,480 --> 02:52:07,760
Speaker 1: see some people bell and see this and what they do,

2717
02:52:08,680 --> 02:52:11,160
Speaker 1: brother said he can they change the name and create

2718
02:52:11,240 --> 02:52:13,040
Speaker 1: all kinds of background and making it look real, and

2719
02:52:13,120 --> 02:52:15,440
Speaker 1: people are thanking him and I want to go see

2720
02:52:15,440 --> 02:52:17,800
Speaker 1: your last show and all of this it's all fake,

2721
02:52:18,040 --> 02:52:20,160
Speaker 1: So don't believe any of that stuff. So I just

2722
02:52:20,240 --> 02:52:21,760
Speaker 1: wanted to share that he said to share with you,

2723
02:52:21,840 --> 02:52:23,119
Speaker 1: and he told me to share with you, So that's

2724
02:52:23,120 --> 02:52:23,640
Speaker 1: what I'm doing.

2725
02:52:23,840 --> 02:52:28,800
Speaker 3: So anyway, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a lot of that

2726
02:52:28,920 --> 02:52:31,400
Speaker 3: going on on the Internet. And be very clear, most

2727
02:52:31,440 --> 02:52:34,880
Speaker 3: of the people don't know the difference between what is

2728
02:52:35,040 --> 02:52:39,040
Speaker 3: AI orchestrated and what is real. See that's the problem.

2729
02:52:39,920 --> 02:52:43,640
Speaker 3: And this is what I've been communicating for twenty years.

2730
02:52:43,959 --> 02:52:46,560
Speaker 3: And I'm telling you this is what's going to happen.

2731
02:52:47,400 --> 02:52:50,720
Speaker 3: Either you're as the people, Either you're going to listen,

2732
02:52:51,120 --> 02:52:54,760
Speaker 3: or you will suffer the consequences in regards to what

2733
02:52:54,920 --> 02:52:58,200
Speaker 3: I've been laying out for twenty years. Those are your options.

2734
02:52:58,480 --> 02:53:00,240
Speaker 3: Either you're going to listen and we're going to do

2735
02:53:00,360 --> 02:53:02,840
Speaker 3: what we need to do. We are gonna do it,

2736
02:53:02,959 --> 02:53:07,400
Speaker 3: not the government, we or we will suffer the consequences.

2737
02:53:07,800 --> 02:53:10,160
Speaker 3: And I'm telling y'all everything that I've said is going

2738
02:53:10,240 --> 02:53:12,360
Speaker 3: to happen. And I don't think I'm a prophet. I

2739
02:53:12,440 --> 02:53:15,320
Speaker 3: don't think any of those things other people say what

2740
02:53:15,440 --> 02:53:19,040
Speaker 3: they say, I don't think those things. But I'm telling

2741
02:53:19,120 --> 02:53:23,960
Speaker 3: you what I lay out happens or it's in the

2742
02:53:24,080 --> 02:53:27,520
Speaker 3: process of happening. I've yet to be wrong. I will

2743
02:53:27,640 --> 02:53:30,080
Speaker 3: not be wrong when it comes to this AI in technology.

2744
02:53:30,280 --> 02:53:33,840
Speaker 3: I'm telling you I've turned it inside out. I've consulted

2745
02:53:34,120 --> 02:53:36,560
Speaker 3: with ancestors, I've done all the things that I need

2746
02:53:36,680 --> 02:53:40,680
Speaker 3: to do to be very clear and precise and concise

2747
02:53:40,760 --> 02:53:43,520
Speaker 3: in regards to AI and technology. And I'm gonna say

2748
02:53:43,520 --> 02:53:46,000
Speaker 3: this again, this is not about fear. But I'm gonna

2749
02:53:46,040 --> 02:53:48,680
Speaker 3: continue to give the warning either we're gonna create what

2750
02:53:48,800 --> 02:53:54,000
Speaker 3: we need to create or we're gonna have to suffer

2751
02:53:54,080 --> 02:53:58,240
Speaker 3: the consequences in regards to AI, because if we interface

2752
02:53:58,320 --> 02:54:01,840
Speaker 3: with the AI from a standpoint of how the programming

2753
02:54:01,959 --> 02:54:07,000
Speaker 3: is conditioning people to do, we will suffer the consequences.

2754
02:54:07,879 --> 02:54:08,680
Speaker 3: These are facts.

2755
02:54:10,160 --> 02:54:12,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, I thought I got some folks. Want to

2756
02:54:12,120 --> 02:54:14,320
Speaker 1: talk to your brother Sadeki. Sixteen minutes away from the top,

2757
02:54:14,400 --> 02:54:17,400
Speaker 1: there beast reaching out to us from Atlanta online walking

2758
02:54:17,640 --> 02:54:20,279
Speaker 1: Grand Rising b You're only brother Sadeka Bakari.

2759
02:54:21,320 --> 02:54:25,279
Speaker 9: Grand Rising Blah Blah Kahl and Grand Rising brother Sidiki.

2760
02:54:25,680 --> 02:54:31,520
Speaker 9: First tund me say Michael, Nasana Amani and Sanki Sana

2761
02:54:31,760 --> 02:54:35,520
Speaker 9: that I just said, I love you and peace and

2762
02:54:36,200 --> 02:54:38,400
Speaker 9: thank you for everything, and thank you to the answers

2763
02:54:38,440 --> 02:54:42,160
Speaker 9: surround you, because you when you speak of the remind

2764
02:54:42,200 --> 02:54:44,200
Speaker 9: when you as you speak, I'm kind to thinking of

2765
02:54:44,320 --> 02:54:48,760
Speaker 9: the great ancestor John Amos when he told Kuta Kinte

2766
02:54:49,320 --> 02:54:52,280
Speaker 9: never forget the old ways. And and then I like

2767
02:54:52,320 --> 02:54:55,160
Speaker 9: to quote bah Blah call you always say. Many of

2768
02:54:55,240 --> 02:54:58,280
Speaker 9: us either want to there's three choices. Either you want

2769
02:54:58,360 --> 02:55:01,640
Speaker 9: to burn down a plantation, find a better position in

2770
02:55:01,720 --> 02:55:04,520
Speaker 9: the plantation, or you might want to be the overseer.

2771
02:55:05,080 --> 02:55:07,600
Speaker 9: And really that's the essence which your country telling us

2772
02:55:07,680 --> 02:55:10,560
Speaker 9: never forget the old ways where ancestors and our grandparents

2773
02:55:10,879 --> 02:55:13,120
Speaker 9: and manyas don't want to do the old ways. We

2774
02:55:13,160 --> 02:55:16,560
Speaker 9: don't want to do my heart, because it takes clear

2775
02:55:16,640 --> 02:55:19,440
Speaker 9: it takes stillness. And so I love you, my brother,

2776
02:55:19,440 --> 02:55:22,520
Speaker 9: and I think everything you do is everything you do

2777
02:55:22,600 --> 02:55:24,760
Speaker 9: and I can't and I know what you're doing now

2778
02:55:24,920 --> 02:55:28,800
Speaker 9: you're doing because as you're letting us know, each person

2779
02:55:28,879 --> 02:55:30,920
Speaker 9: hear my voice, do you want to be an ancestor

2780
02:55:31,280 --> 02:55:34,080
Speaker 9: that they call your name? And that's what we should relate.

2781
02:55:34,120 --> 02:55:35,320
Speaker 9: And you're doing that, brother, We're.

2782
02:55:35,160 --> 02:55:36,760
Speaker 4: Gonna call your name. You know you're hear her now,

2783
02:55:36,800 --> 02:55:37,080
Speaker 4: I know you.

2784
02:55:37,360 --> 02:55:38,000
Speaker 3: You're hearing the night.

2785
02:55:38,080 --> 02:55:40,320
Speaker 9: But your light is shining for future generation to come.

2786
02:55:40,680 --> 02:55:43,119
Speaker 9: Peace and blessing peace and blessing bah blah call peace

2787
02:55:43,160 --> 02:55:44,879
Speaker 9: in blessing bussy, have a wonderful day.

2788
02:55:46,040 --> 02:55:47,959
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you. What's the caller's name again?

2789
02:55:48,040 --> 02:55:50,040
Speaker 1: Called from Atlanta?

2790
02:55:50,800 --> 02:55:53,439
Speaker 3: Oh, excellent and appreciate that gratitude.

2791
02:55:53,640 --> 02:55:57,800
Speaker 1: Sure, another caller for fourteen away from the top let's

2792
02:55:57,800 --> 02:56:00,440
Speaker 1: go to Toronto. Calvin's waiting for us. He's online to

2793
02:56:00,640 --> 02:56:02,359
Speaker 1: Grand Rising. Calvin. You're on with brother.

2794
02:56:03,680 --> 02:56:07,440
Speaker 12: Grand Rising car Brother Sidiki. I just wanted to tap

2795
02:56:07,480 --> 02:56:10,600
Speaker 12: into when you talk about the spiritual technology. You mentioned

2796
02:56:10,640 --> 02:56:12,920
Speaker 12: that if and the and the dogan and some of

2797
02:56:13,000 --> 02:56:16,600
Speaker 12: even some of the cometic traditions, and you speak more

2798
02:56:16,760 --> 02:56:19,760
Speaker 12: into how those those traditions and the tenants of those

2799
02:56:20,640 --> 02:56:22,920
Speaker 12: traditions will help us kind of get to the point

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02:56:22,959 --> 02:56:26,520
Speaker 12: where we're tapping back into our natural technology, if you will.

2801
02:56:27,560 --> 02:56:28,200
Speaker 4: That's the one question.

2802
02:56:28,240 --> 02:56:31,360
Speaker 12: Then the other questions, what role does melonan play in

2803
02:56:31,440 --> 02:56:32,400
Speaker 12: all of this if any?

2804
02:56:36,040 --> 02:56:39,160
Speaker 3: Those are two very in depth questions. Like those questions

2805
02:56:39,200 --> 02:56:44,400
Speaker 3: alone is an entire show, but melanin plays a huge role.

2806
02:56:44,480 --> 02:56:46,800
Speaker 3: It's the chemical kee the greatness, that's the bottom line.

2807
02:56:48,160 --> 02:56:50,240
Speaker 3: And this is a lot of a lot of the

2808
02:56:50,400 --> 02:56:53,400
Speaker 3: reasons why we deal with the hate, we deal with

2809
02:56:53,520 --> 02:56:55,960
Speaker 3: the jealousy, we deal with the envy, we deal with

2810
02:56:56,080 --> 02:56:58,280
Speaker 3: the programming, we deal with all the different things that

2811
02:56:58,360 --> 02:57:02,640
Speaker 3: we deal with, whether there's science typically, whether it's the environment, nature,

2812
02:57:04,640 --> 02:57:09,120
Speaker 3: the psyche, religion, all the different things that we deal with.

2813
02:57:10,760 --> 02:57:15,760
Speaker 3: Is warfare in regards to melanin, and how important melanin

2814
02:57:15,959 --> 02:57:20,240
Speaker 3: is in this whole equation. You can't have a baby

2815
02:57:20,520 --> 02:57:24,400
Speaker 3: without the different types of melanin, right, So when we

2816
02:57:24,560 --> 02:57:31,640
Speaker 3: talk about birth and regeneration and this process of transformation

2817
02:57:31,800 --> 02:57:34,640
Speaker 3: and ascension and things of that nature, melanin is a

2818
02:57:34,720 --> 02:57:39,120
Speaker 3: chemical key in that process. So I would just tell

2819
02:57:39,200 --> 02:57:44,280
Speaker 3: people just study melanin, but make sure you're studying our

2820
02:57:44,440 --> 02:57:48,040
Speaker 3: scholars as well when it comes to melanin, all right,

2821
02:57:48,640 --> 02:57:51,920
Speaker 3: make sure you're doing that, because there's things that we

2822
02:57:52,000 --> 02:57:54,320
Speaker 3: can tap into that other people can't tap into when

2823
02:57:54,360 --> 02:57:56,400
Speaker 3: it comes to us, all right. This is why I

2824
02:57:56,480 --> 02:57:59,520
Speaker 3: talk about saying things to an African being able to

2825
02:57:59,560 --> 02:58:03,280
Speaker 3: see it through African lens. Now, in regards to e FI,

2826
02:58:03,440 --> 02:58:07,160
Speaker 3: the metal neture and other types of language models and

2827
02:58:07,240 --> 02:58:11,320
Speaker 3: operating systems, I would employ people as well to study

2828
02:58:11,760 --> 02:58:15,200
Speaker 3: those systems because again, what it does is it unlocks

2829
02:58:15,640 --> 02:58:20,720
Speaker 3: aspects of your genome or your DNA that is connected

2830
02:58:20,840 --> 02:58:24,680
Speaker 3: to these particular systems. So when you deal with these systems,

2831
02:58:24,680 --> 02:58:28,200
Speaker 3: you're dealing with data. You're dealing with metadata, meta information,

2832
02:58:30,360 --> 02:58:34,200
Speaker 3: the library of consciousness, so to speak, those type of

2833
02:58:34,320 --> 02:58:38,080
Speaker 3: things nature of course, so you're dealing with the type

2834
02:58:38,120 --> 02:58:40,360
Speaker 3: of intelligence that you're not going to tap in through

2835
02:58:40,879 --> 02:58:44,240
Speaker 3: tap into going through a Western means of attempting to

2836
02:58:44,360 --> 02:58:47,400
Speaker 3: do it. That's why those systems are so important. And

2837
02:58:47,480 --> 02:58:50,760
Speaker 3: as I mentioned, there are algorithms that binary codes is computation,

2838
02:58:51,400 --> 02:58:54,400
Speaker 3: that's what you're dealing with. Those are technologies, but they're

2839
02:58:54,480 --> 02:59:00,400
Speaker 3: spiritual related technologies as opposed to artificial intelligent type of technologies.

2840
02:59:00,680 --> 02:59:03,560
Speaker 3: So you're dealing with two different energies. When you're dealing

2841
02:59:03,640 --> 02:59:08,560
Speaker 3: with the African types of language models and operating systems,

2842
02:59:08,720 --> 02:59:12,000
Speaker 3: you're dealing with the spiritual technology and the spiritual intelligence,

2843
02:59:12,280 --> 02:59:17,080
Speaker 3: all right, and the original typo notion of quote unquote God,

2844
02:59:17,240 --> 02:59:20,959
Speaker 3: which is not an African thing. We didn't call anything God.

2845
02:59:21,440 --> 02:59:24,000
Speaker 3: So just from that, you're already dealing from a foreign

2846
02:59:24,440 --> 02:59:28,440
Speaker 3: interpretation of that power and what that means from a

2847
02:59:28,520 --> 02:59:32,240
Speaker 3: standpoint of communication and ritual and sidul and all the

2848
02:59:32,360 --> 02:59:35,440
Speaker 3: other things that is connected to in our outline. So

2849
02:59:35,600 --> 02:59:38,520
Speaker 3: this is the reason we always should go back because

2850
02:59:38,600 --> 02:59:42,400
Speaker 3: it unlocks things that we have been programmed not to

2851
02:59:42,520 --> 02:59:45,040
Speaker 3: be able to tap into. Based on the things that

2852
02:59:45,120 --> 02:59:48,800
Speaker 3: I mentioned, the trauma based programming, the fear based programming,

2853
02:59:48,879 --> 02:59:54,320
Speaker 3: the different methods of mind control and there's many different

2854
02:59:54,360 --> 03:00:01,039
Speaker 3: methods right, psychological operations, distraction, the Jelian dialectic, addictive programming,

2855
03:00:01,120 --> 03:00:05,680
Speaker 3: double speak, cognitive dissonance, fear based programming, new age programming,

2856
03:00:05,840 --> 03:00:10,800
Speaker 3: victim consciousness, the use of charismatics, mentor size, Stockholm syndrome,

2857
03:00:11,360 --> 03:00:15,720
Speaker 3: brain hacking, brainwashing, thought reform. So all these things are

2858
03:00:15,800 --> 03:00:18,560
Speaker 3: taking place. So again the war is on. And four,

2859
03:00:19,520 --> 03:00:23,520
Speaker 3: your mind. The mind is the key to all of

2860
03:00:23,640 --> 03:00:26,760
Speaker 3: these things that we're talking about because the way you think,

2861
03:00:27,480 --> 03:00:30,560
Speaker 3: which is indicative of your subconscious mind and your central

2862
03:00:30,640 --> 03:00:33,920
Speaker 3: nervous system. So the way you think is how you

2863
03:00:34,080 --> 03:00:38,240
Speaker 3: will speak, and how you speak is what you will do.

2864
03:00:38,760 --> 03:00:43,600
Speaker 3: All right. This is why when we deal with the

2865
03:00:43,720 --> 03:00:50,920
Speaker 3: axioms of Jihuti, the first law deals with the mind

2866
03:00:51,720 --> 03:00:54,320
Speaker 3: is all or the mind is mental. All is mental,

2867
03:00:54,480 --> 03:00:59,520
Speaker 3: all is mind. That's why that's the first law, and

2868
03:00:59,640 --> 03:01:03,920
Speaker 3: this is why the focus has been on our minds.

2869
03:01:04,280 --> 03:01:06,920
Speaker 3: All right, So just keep that in mind. We have

2870
03:01:07,080 --> 03:01:10,119
Speaker 3: to go back in order to move forward. That's sankofa.

2871
03:01:10,600 --> 03:01:13,480
Speaker 3: So because we haven't went back in many cases, we

2872
03:01:13,800 --> 03:01:17,120
Speaker 3: have no idea what's happening today. And because we haven't

2873
03:01:17,160 --> 03:01:20,120
Speaker 3: gone back, we have no idea what is going to.

2874
03:01:20,240 --> 03:01:23,800
Speaker 1: Happen that, Jim here real quick, because you're raised the clock.

2875
03:01:23,879 --> 03:01:27,039
Speaker 1: You once gave us the acronym what smart means, because

2876
03:01:27,080 --> 03:01:31,040
Speaker 1: we've got smart TV, smartphones and smart locks. You know,

2877
03:01:31,440 --> 03:01:33,360
Speaker 1: is everything smart? Can you share that really on what

2878
03:01:33,440 --> 03:01:35,000
Speaker 1: the acronym for smart means?

2879
03:01:36,280 --> 03:01:44,600
Speaker 3: Yes, I can self monitoring analysis reporting technology, self monitoring

2880
03:01:44,800 --> 03:01:49,440
Speaker 3: analysis reporting technology. So they're telling you it's about surveillance

2881
03:01:49,480 --> 03:01:52,800
Speaker 3: and counterintelligence. Now real quickly, let me let me do this, Carl,

2882
03:01:52,920 --> 03:01:56,359
Speaker 3: just so people understand the digital ID, central banking, digital currency.

2883
03:01:57,920 --> 03:02:00,200
Speaker 3: Let me give you these four points real quick. This

2884
03:02:00,400 --> 03:02:04,000
Speaker 3: is the meat the purpose of it. Everything is trackable,

2885
03:02:05,560 --> 03:02:10,600
Speaker 3: your money, everything, your location, everything, every transaction is controllable.

2886
03:02:11,000 --> 03:02:15,920
Speaker 3: It's not about convenience. It's about leverage. Leverage to freeze accounts,

2887
03:02:16,160 --> 03:02:19,640
Speaker 3: to limit what you buy, auto tax, your incomes, block

2888
03:02:19,760 --> 03:02:23,440
Speaker 3: underproofd spending, all these different things. All right. Also, you're

2889
03:02:23,480 --> 03:02:28,280
Speaker 3: going to sell digital idea again at safety, security, and efficiency. Now,

2890
03:02:28,480 --> 03:02:32,959
Speaker 3: this is what the war is that people don't understand.

2891
03:02:34,760 --> 03:02:40,000
Speaker 3: Digital freedom will be digital prison and oppression. So people

2892
03:02:40,040 --> 03:02:42,240
Speaker 3: who think AI is going to free us and it's

2893
03:02:42,280 --> 03:02:44,760
Speaker 3: the future and all these different things. Yes, it's the

2894
03:02:44,800 --> 03:02:49,039
Speaker 3: future of oppression. It's the future of how prison will

2895
03:02:49,080 --> 03:02:54,560
Speaker 3: look for the populace and mainstream society in the United States.

2896
03:02:54,800 --> 03:03:00,720
Speaker 3: All right, now everything will be monitored, access becomes restriction,

2897
03:03:02,120 --> 03:03:07,400
Speaker 3: so AI will be used to literally enslave you. That's

2898
03:03:07,480 --> 03:03:10,879
Speaker 3: the whole point of this for people to understand. Now,

2899
03:03:10,959 --> 03:03:15,600
Speaker 3: imagine you already knowing what the plan is to enslave

2900
03:03:15,680 --> 03:03:19,400
Speaker 3: you and doing nothing about it, and thinking that the

2901
03:03:19,560 --> 03:03:21,960
Speaker 3: plan to enslave you is the plan to free you.

2902
03:03:23,240 --> 03:03:27,800
Speaker 3: That's where we are as a people. But we understand

2903
03:03:29,600 --> 03:03:33,480
Speaker 3: we have Stockholm, well the people, because I don't have

2904
03:03:33,600 --> 03:03:38,360
Speaker 3: Stockholm syndrome, meaning you edify, you deify everything as white,

2905
03:03:39,280 --> 03:03:44,440
Speaker 3: their system everything. You want their credibility, You want to

2906
03:03:44,480 --> 03:03:48,920
Speaker 3: be accepted, all of it. And the further you go

2907
03:03:49,120 --> 03:03:54,600
Speaker 3: in the system, their system, the more you are slaved

2908
03:03:54,640 --> 03:03:57,920
Speaker 3: to it because the more you've been programmed into it.

2909
03:04:00,080 --> 03:04:05,400
Speaker 1: Of my words, right, and back to the smart issue again.

2910
03:04:06,120 --> 03:04:09,040
Speaker 1: You've got smartphone, smart TV, smart just about everything, and

2911
03:04:09,120 --> 03:04:11,840
Speaker 1: now smart cities, anything on the line that we should

2912
03:04:11,840 --> 03:04:13,440
Speaker 1: be looking forward to that they're going to come out

2913
03:04:13,480 --> 03:04:14,560
Speaker 1: and say it's smart.

2914
03:04:17,400 --> 03:04:24,760
Speaker 3: Well, right now, Carl, we have too much to already

2915
03:04:24,840 --> 03:04:28,240
Speaker 3: deal with. Okay, So what I'm going to tell people

2916
03:04:28,280 --> 03:04:31,199
Speaker 3: to do is to make sure that you are researching

2917
03:04:32,240 --> 03:04:37,480
Speaker 3: what AI really is? What is AI? First, because most

2918
03:04:37,520 --> 03:04:40,360
Speaker 3: people don't know the answer to that what is AI?

2919
03:04:41,360 --> 03:04:45,000
Speaker 3: Then you ask questions like what's the purpose of AI? Okay?

2920
03:04:45,720 --> 03:04:49,520
Speaker 3: And again if we know who's controlling it, so what

2921
03:04:49,840 --> 03:04:56,040
Speaker 3: do those systems and people do with what they control? See,

2922
03:04:56,160 --> 03:05:00,880
Speaker 3: those are the questions. You can't expect the system to

2923
03:05:01,000 --> 03:05:04,560
Speaker 3: operate any differently than it's been operating. The system is

2924
03:05:05,200 --> 03:05:10,120
Speaker 3: created to create to have a power structure, specifically the

2925
03:05:10,200 --> 03:05:14,440
Speaker 3: way the power structure is you. We are not that

2926
03:05:14,640 --> 03:05:18,960
Speaker 3: power structure in that system that's intentional and deliberate. And

2927
03:05:19,040 --> 03:05:20,600
Speaker 3: what do you think they're going to use AI for?

2928
03:05:21,040 --> 03:05:24,040
Speaker 3: For all of you who who say and think voting

2929
03:05:24,160 --> 03:05:26,680
Speaker 3: is the answer? Well, don't you think they've already used

2930
03:05:26,720 --> 03:05:31,000
Speaker 3: AI to change popular voting even though popular voting does

2931
03:05:31,080 --> 03:05:34,200
Speaker 3: not select the president anyway? But you don't think they're

2932
03:05:34,320 --> 03:05:39,080
Speaker 3: using it already to do what they need to do

2933
03:05:39,240 --> 03:05:42,800
Speaker 3: with the voting system, Like, we don't, we just we

2934
03:05:42,920 --> 03:05:48,480
Speaker 3: don't understand what AI really is. And I've dealt with

2935
03:05:48,680 --> 03:05:53,480
Speaker 3: every major area. So those nine areas that Neely Fuller

2936
03:05:53,720 --> 03:05:56,560
Speaker 3: and Francis cres Wilson laid out for us. I've dealt

2937
03:05:56,600 --> 03:05:59,879
Speaker 3: with all of those areas and more have gone down

2938
03:06:00,080 --> 03:06:06,000
Speaker 3: the rabbit hole. You see the same thing. Oppression. That's

2939
03:06:06,040 --> 03:06:09,480
Speaker 3: what you see, slavery. Each and every one of those

2940
03:06:09,600 --> 03:06:13,119
Speaker 3: areas of what they call people activity, I call human experience.

2941
03:06:13,800 --> 03:06:15,840
Speaker 3: And I say it's an asterisk next to all of

2942
03:06:15,920 --> 03:06:21,400
Speaker 3: them now because they're technology related or technology moving, and

2943
03:06:21,520 --> 03:06:24,040
Speaker 3: then of course technology is one in its own self.

2944
03:06:25,840 --> 03:06:30,400
Speaker 3: So I've done that research. These are not opinions. This

2945
03:06:30,560 --> 03:06:33,000
Speaker 3: is hours of research.

2946
03:06:33,959 --> 03:06:36,200
Speaker 1: We know you've done the research. How can folks reach you.

2947
03:06:38,000 --> 03:06:41,320
Speaker 3: Again? Well, you can reach me on Facebook and Instagram,

2948
03:06:41,480 --> 03:06:45,760
Speaker 3: Sadiki Bakari. The spelling of my name esa d I

2949
03:06:46,200 --> 03:06:50,640
Speaker 3: k I Bakari b A k A r I. Also

2950
03:06:50,800 --> 03:06:54,119
Speaker 3: you can email me Sadiq Bakari at hotmail dot com.

2951
03:06:54,280 --> 03:06:57,640
Speaker 3: That's one word you're emailing me. For the upcoming classes,

2952
03:06:57,720 --> 03:07:00,440
Speaker 3: I have one Sunday and I have one February eighth.

2953
03:07:00,720 --> 03:07:04,000
Speaker 3: If you're interested, you need to email me immediately for

2954
03:07:04,240 --> 03:07:08,400
Speaker 3: this Sunday's class. Also, the Nuclear Thought and Anatomic Algorithms

2955
03:07:08,440 --> 03:07:12,640
Speaker 3: book specifically on what we've been talking about today. That's

2956
03:07:12,720 --> 03:07:16,240
Speaker 3: the book that I would suggest you order from me,

2957
03:07:17,040 --> 03:07:19,760
Speaker 3: but I've written nineteen books, so there's packages available to

2958
03:07:19,879 --> 03:07:21,800
Speaker 3: if you would like a ten book package or something

2959
03:07:21,879 --> 03:07:25,760
Speaker 3: like that, that's available also. So that's what you're specifically

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Speaker 3: emailing me for. And those are the emails I'm going

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Speaker 3: to respond to.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, Broth, appreciate you, Thank you, brother Sadiki,

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Speaker 1: thank you for all the information you shared with us

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Speaker 1: this morning. All right, family, that's it for the day.

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Speaker 1: Clash is dismissed. Stay strong, stay positive, please stay healthy.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow morning, six o'clock right here in

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Speaker 1: Baltimore on ten ten WLB, and also in the DMV

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Speaker 1: on fourteen fifty WOL