1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Live from the Heartland and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 2: I have proposed ausn't. Trump has concurred that this surge 4 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: operations conclude. A significant drawdown has already been underway this 5 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 2: week and we'll continue to the next week. 6 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 3: We have a lot of. 7 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: Work to do across this country to remove public safety 8 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: risk who shouldn't even be in this country, and to 9 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: deliver on President Trump's promise for strong border security mass deportation. 10 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: Law enforcement officers drawn down from this surge operation will 11 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: either return to the duty station or be signed elseware 12 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: to achieve just that. 13 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 4: That is Tom Homan. He is the Border's art. He 14 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 4: came in to relieve Greg Boben Bevan Boben, Boben can't 15 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 4: remember his last name right now. And he has announced 16 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 4: that Minneapolis in Ice or Ice in Minneapolis will be 17 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 4: drawing down. You notice he didn't say leaving altogether. And 18 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 4: there is a real mistake happening out there as this 19 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 4: announcement came earlier that oh my gosh. 20 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 3: Ice is just leaving. Ice is not just leaving. 21 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 4: But if the determination is made that since you have 22 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 4: local law enforcement now actually doing the job and helping. 23 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 4: You didn't need border patrol. Now you can do it 24 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 4: with less ICE agents. I say good. The story here, 25 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 4: the one that the Republican Party will not be able 26 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 4: to tell because of I don't know, incompetence or fear, 27 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 4: is that once you have local law enforcement working with 28 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 4: to assist ICE, everything works better. 29 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 3: Once you eliminate the violent. 30 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 4: Agitator trying to kill ICE agents, everything works out better 31 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 4: and people don't get killed, people don't get attacked, people 32 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 4: don't get hurt. When you have no violence towards ICE. 33 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 4: Oh gosh, everything's normal. What's so wrong with normal? Tony 34 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 4: Kats Tony Kats today? Good to be here, good to 35 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 4: be with You find everything I do over there at 36 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 4: what is it that's at Tony katz dot com? 37 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 3: Just that easy to do. 38 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 4: It's unbelievable that people haven't noticed that. For the past 39 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 4: couple of weeks, everything's been, you know, pretty pretty easy. 40 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 4: People have not been screaming and yelling. There have been 41 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 4: no attacks. There was something that did take place yesterday. 42 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 4: I do agree, but we were talking about this and 43 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 4: talking about this talking. 44 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 3: Now we have nothing. Now there is no discussion. 45 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 4: Now it's just, oh, I guess this is what happens 46 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 4: when everybody acts normal, which is what indeed took place. 47 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 4: What took place was that Homan came in and allowed 48 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 4: the temperature to come down because everybody was upset with 49 00:03:54,480 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 4: the guy from Border Patrol. He was doing this and 50 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 4: he was doing that, Brevino, I said Bovin A Bovino, 51 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 4: Greg Bavino. And maybe his temperament wasn't right for this thing. 52 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 4: It's right for other things. But in neither case she 53 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 4: wants to put a fresh face on it. 54 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: He didn't stop. 55 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 4: ICE continue to work, ICE continue to remove people, and 56 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 4: so it should have. And in the press conference today, 57 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 4: Tom Homan said as much. 58 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: We will continue to enforce Title A immigration law throughout 59 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: this nation. Prioritizing prioritizing national security threats and public safety 60 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 2: risks makes sense. We'll continue to say. 61 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 3: Over and over again, if. 62 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 2: You are hearing the country legally, you're not an exempt 63 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 2: from our immigration laws. If we encounter you, we'll take 64 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: appropriate enforcement action. But the old to say we are 65 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 2: backing down from immigration enforcement or the promise of mass deportations, 66 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: you are simply wrong. Look at the data record number 67 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 2: of arrest and deportations under and we'll continue that effort. 68 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: Prioritizing public safety thrusts and national security threast doesn't mean 69 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 2: we'll forget about everybody else. We will take action. 70 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 3: On everybody else. That's just a stone cold fact. I'll 71 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 3: take a stone cold fact. 72 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 4: By the way, I'm going to need that that producer 73 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 4: land and that's going to become a sound effect. 74 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 3: That's a stone cold fact. 75 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 4: I only hope in the stone cold fact that we 76 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 4: will continue to look into all of the fraud committed 77 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 4: by Somali nationals and Americans regarding home health care and 78 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 4: medicare services. 79 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 3: People need to go to jail. I don't want that 80 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 3: to end. 81 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 4: And I am not letting the governor Tim Walls off 82 00:05:54,640 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 4: the hook. Tim Walls is only concerned that he gets paid. 83 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 4: You think I'm kidding, How in the world, How in 84 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 4: the world. 85 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 3: Can I make something like this up? 86 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 2: What I am going to challenge as we get ready 87 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 2: to start here in a few days. 88 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 3: The legislative session. 89 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 5: This legislative session needs to be about recovery of the 90 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 5: damage has been done to us. 91 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 3: I am also asking. 92 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: Our team and I'm going to make appeals to our 93 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: federal delegation. The federal government needs you pay for what 94 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 2: they broke here. 95 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 4: The federal government needs to pay for what they broke here. 96 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 4: I don't actually know what to do with that except say, 97 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 4: broke what broke what? The citizens that created the blockades, 98 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 4: let them pay for it. The citizens that destroyed property, 99 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 4: let them pay for it. The people here are legally 100 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 4: who created blockades and destroyed property. 101 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 3: Let's just throw them out of the country. Good lord. 102 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 4: Indeed, I think everybody can take this as politically as 103 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 4: they choose, and they will. The left will say their things, 104 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 4: and the right will say they're things. I'm certainly a conservative. 105 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 4: If you call me on the political right, I have 106 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 4: no problem with it whatsoever. But I will state that 107 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 4: I think the larger scale story here is look what 108 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 4: happens when local law enforcement is allowed to do its job. 109 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 4: Remember it is not the Minneapolis cop who refused to 110 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 4: work with ICE. It is the mayor Jacob Fray who 111 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 4: refused to work with ICE. It is the Governor Tim 112 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 4: Walls who refused to work with ICE. That led to 113 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 4: bringing in border patrol to act as an assistant because 114 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 4: they were getting no backup from local. 115 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 3: When they got back up from local, things got better. 116 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 3: What do you know about that. 117 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 4: Now, maybe it didn't get better, it's just media stopped 118 00:07:55,800 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 4: covering the story. If the laws are going to work 119 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 4: with them, then you're going to be admitting that Jacob 120 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 4: Fray and. 121 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 3: Tim Walls worked with Ice. 122 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 4: And since progressives can't have that, best not to tell 123 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 4: the story at all. That doesn't change what happened with 124 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 4: Keith Allison on the stand. Keith Allison is the Attorney 125 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 4: General of Minnesota, and the Senate is having a hearing 126 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 4: Immigration Enforcement oversight, and Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, he's 127 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 4: got what we call in the business questions. 128 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 5: We had a very interesting hearing last week on the 129 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 5: fraud Minnesota and we had State Senator Mark Kron and 130 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 5: in his testimony he was talking about local reports of 131 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 5: something like thirty thousand they call them observers being trained. 132 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 3: Thought that was an incredible figure. 133 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 5: I'm not saying that's there actually were, but it certainly 134 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 5: sounds that they're activists being trained. Are you aware of 135 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 5: training for activists, mister Alison in Minnesota that some of 136 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 5: these these protesters literally went through training. There there are 137 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 5: groups out there providing training. 138 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 3: Are you aware of that? Yeah, I'm aware of that. 139 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 6: I mean it's it's common for people to use their 140 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 6: First Amendment right to social protestings that they don't Were 141 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 6: you aware of the first amoment activity start? 142 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 5: Were you aware of the signal chats? I believe, I 143 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 5: believe as the Lieutenant Governor of Minnesota was actually helping 144 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 5: manage one of those signal chats that were deploying those 145 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 5: trained activists to the legal law enforcement to actions. Or 146 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 5: were you aware of that signal chapter is being used 147 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 5: to deploy those people. 148 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 3: I'm aware it exists. 149 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 6: But this is First Amendment activity start, Oh. 150 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 3: Attorney General Ellison, that's adorable. 151 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 4: Paid agitators involved in impeding and interrupting ICE and engaging 152 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 4: violence against ice, that's something. 153 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 3: That is something. 154 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 4: Indeed, the story here is not whether or not people organized, 155 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 4: is whether or not they're paid to organize, Whether or 156 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 4: not there's dollars behind the organization, that's the question. That's 157 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 4: the entirety of the argument. Who is paying to engage 158 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 4: in this disruption? Who is paying to create these concerted 159 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 4: groups that's concerted attack. Who's doing that? That's the question. 160 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 4: Now I put forth to you that these groups are 161 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 4: anti American, these groups are violent. 162 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 3: I have referred to them as a militia groups. 163 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 4: Others are now referring to them as militia groups, as cells. 164 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 3: That's what's going on. The line of questioning. 165 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 4: Here gets more and more fascinating because Keith Ellison, who 166 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 4: is absolutely. 167 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 3: A radical, he was a radical, and he was in Congress. 168 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 4: This is a guy who proudly takes pictures of himself 169 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 4: with the ANTIPA handbook and then claims there's no such 170 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 4: thing as antifa. 171 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 3: He wants to continue the idea. Well, it's just First Amendment. 172 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 3: Protest is violent action is not. This is something that 173 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 3: the law did. Did did you? 174 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 5: Did you ever encourage people to go out there and 175 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 5: exercise the first Yeah? So you you really admit being 176 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 5: in the First Amendment you encourage trained activists to put 177 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 5: themselves into harm's way because you had to know, because 178 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 5: you were watching this, that there were scuffles at least, 179 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 5: that these people were obstructing justice. I would think you'd actually, 180 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 5: as the chief law enforcement officer of Minnesota, be concerned 181 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 5: about people obstructing justice. So, you know, putting their cars 182 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 5: in the streets, blocking roads, I would think is chief 183 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 5: law enforce you would be. 184 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 3: Concerned about that. But were you ever concerned. 185 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 5: About encouraging I guess people support you to go out 186 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 5: and put themselves into harm's way, never being an obstructing 187 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 5: illegal law enforcement reaction. 188 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 3: Did that ever concern you? So that never happened. 189 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 6: We all times said if you want to protest, protest peacefully, 190 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 6: protest safely, But but I would you'll never find me 191 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 6: and then against the. 192 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 3: First amat right now, but I'll always be for the 193 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 3: first LA. 194 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 5: But you you were seeing the scuffles, right, you were 195 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 5: seeing the and by the way, Minneapolis police officials could 196 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 5: not help protect ice officials, right, I mean represent of 197 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 5: miss is that when when you're talking about the Nulfcasian 198 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 5: federal law, isn't that one of the Hampton County that 199 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 5: they simply could not help and protect ice in their 200 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 5: legal law enforcement actions. 201 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 7: The Minneapolis Police Department issued guidance in July saying that 202 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 7: they would not even even help with crowd control around 203 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 7: immigration operations, and Minnesota leaders encouraged that kind of action. 204 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 7: The Minnesota Lieutenant governor encouraged people to put their bodies 205 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 7: on the line, like. 206 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 4: That is accurate. Now, that's Harry Niska. He is a 207 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 4: state rep out of Minnesota. Let's not forget the push 208 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 4: towards violence that the leftist Minnesota made here, not by 209 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 4: the way, not just Minnesota. Let's not lose sight of 210 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 4: what took place here. Good questions, good push. Bring it 211 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 4: back to the Senator on Johnson. 212 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 5: I can't imagine encouraging somebody that supported me politically to 213 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 5: go and put themselves into harms. 214 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 3: Way. 215 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 5: I can't imagine that, particularly particularly when you know that 216 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 5: these law enforcement officials had been shot at, a couple 217 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 5: of illegal immigrants invertently killed because people were shooting at 218 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 5: ICE officers. 219 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 3: Their vehicles have been rammed. 220 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 5: By some of these peaceful protesters, probably trained activists. They've 221 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 5: had rocks thrown at their vehicles. I can't imagine encouraging 222 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 5: people put yourselves in harms. 223 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 3: Way. 224 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 5: Fee out there and record that. I, as a government official, 225 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 5: would have said, back off, let us work with ICE, 226 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 5: let's cooperate with them, let's see if we can't de 227 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 5: escalate this. 228 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 3: But Attorney General, you. 229 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 5: Did the exact opposite, and two people are dead because 230 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 5: you encourage them to put themselves into harms, and now 231 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 5: you're exploiting those two martyrs. 232 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 3: That was a tragedy. It never should have happened. 233 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 4: Agreed on every count, agreed on every single count. They 234 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 4: were exploited, They were pushed to get into harm's way, 235 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 4: they were pushed to do these things. 236 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 3: They did not listen to law enforcement. 237 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 4: I still believe investigations should take place to determine whether 238 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 4: these were I'll use the expression good shoots, but hold 239 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 4: Renee Good and Alex pretty blameless. 240 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 3: Absolutely not. 241 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 4: And I am one of the people who absolutely believes. 242 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 3: That the left does not care at all that. 243 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 4: These two people died. Just the martyrs for the cause. Man, 244 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 4: that's all. 245 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 3: Keep it here. 246 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 4: I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz. Today, seven people, 247 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 4: including the suspected shooter, an eighteen year old woman who 248 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 4: appeared to have died from a self afflicted injury, were 249 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 4: found dead at tumblr Ridge Secondary School, according to the 250 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 4: Royal Canadian Mounted Police. 251 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 3: That's the way The New York Times wrote the story. 252 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 4: About a transgender murderer in Canada. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, 253 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 4: This was a boy, a man who thought he was 254 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 4: a woman. This started when he was a boy because 255 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 4: his mother, according to the reporting, pushed him into this, 256 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 4: pushed him into this transgender insanity, called herself a transgender activist. 257 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 3: They write that at The New York Times. 258 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 4: That most of the victims were twelve or thirteen year 259 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 4: old students killed in their school library. And all the 260 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 4: police said the shooter killed nine people, including herself, and 261 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 4: they had earlier given a mistake in death toll of ten, 262 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 4: it was himself. That's twice that The New York Times 263 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 4: is willing to not only buy into a lie, but 264 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 4: continue to push even after a murderer is dead. They're 265 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 4: willing to push the idea that mental illness should be 266 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 4: fed into The shooter also killed her mother thirty nine 267 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 4: and stepbrother eleven before going to the school. So this boy, 268 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 4: this man, who was pushed into a transgender insanity by 269 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 4: his mother, who was a transgender activist, was killed by 270 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 4: him who now The New York Times, in a third moment, 271 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 4: refers to as her. 272 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 3: Anybody who thinks the New. 273 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 4: York Times is all the news let's fit to print 274 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 4: is out of their heads. And I do not know 275 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 4: how one becomes the paper of record. Why is the 276 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 4: New York Times the paper of record? Let's ask why 277 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 4: is the New York Times the paper of record? 278 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 3: This question I realily should be asking Ai don't you think. 279 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 4: They referred to it as the paper of Record because 280 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 4: of its early adoption of systematic archiving and indexing, So 281 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 4: really more of an honorary title. We should pull it. 282 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 4: Even the honorary title they are of the paper of falsehoods, 283 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 4: of lies, of manipulations, of propaganda, and any organization that 284 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 4: would still utilize purposefully the wrong pronoun for fear of 285 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 4: upsetting it anyone. This guy already killed nine people, eight's 286 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 4: including himself. If I use the wrong pronoun, somebody else 287 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 4: is now going to go be a killer. Not everybody 288 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 4: dealing with mental illness leads to violence, agreed, But no 289 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 4: rational person. 290 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 3: Wants to feed into mental illness. So let's stop. 291 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 4: And the people who do it, let's tell them they're wrong. 292 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 4: And the medical professionals to do that, let's take their 293 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 4: licenses because they are a danger to all of us. 294 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 3: Keep it here because Tony. 295 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 4: Katz today, So is the Pentagon preparing for war? Well, 296 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 4: if you follow the stories, it certainly looks like it, 297 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 4: doesn't it. If you take a look at how they're 298 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 4: preparing a second carrier to head to the Middle East 299 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 4: to deal with Iran, Well, what dealing do we actually 300 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 4: have here. What dealing is actually taking place here? Are 301 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 4: you going to somehow get the iatola to leave so 302 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 4: these people can live free? How does this work? 303 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, good to be with you. 304 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 4: Especially considering Trump wants to continue negotiating with them regarding 305 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 4: the nuclear program. Well, if you're negotiating with them, if 306 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:36,479 Speaker 4: you're negotiating with them, you're stating that they can stick around. 307 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 4: That's a real problem. Let's start with what we know. 308 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 4: According to Newsmax, a second carrier group is getting ready 309 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 4: the Pentagon preparing to desploy to deploy another aircraft carrier 310 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 4: strike group to the Middle East. So make sure we're 311 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 4: clear here, we're not talking about an aircraft carrier. We're 312 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 4: talking about the carriers at the carrier and the destroyers 313 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 4: and all of that support mechanism. Certainly, we saw that 314 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 4: we had was at the Carl Vincent, which is the 315 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 4: largest aircraft carrier we have, the. 316 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 3: Carl Vincent that was in the Caribbean. Is that on 317 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 3: the move? 318 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 4: Wall Street Journal reporting that Defense officials are developing a 319 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 4: plan to send another carrier, so they haven't said which 320 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 4: one yet. The rumor the USS George H. W. Bush 321 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 4: this pending of final order from the President. In addition, 322 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 4: as reported by eight Air and Space Forces dot. 323 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 3: Com, oh, there are. 324 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 4: There are definitely some niche things, niche publications out there. 325 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 3: They're moving closer to the Middle East. 326 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 4: February ninth, a half dozen have thirty five A Lightning 327 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 4: two fifth generation planes landed in the UK. This after 328 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 4: crossing the Atlantic. This is flight tracking data. Air traffic 329 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 4: control communications are showing. 330 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 3: Now we know. 331 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 4: Hold on a second, do I have it wrong? I 332 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 4: thought the car. I'm sorry, the gerald Ford is the largest. 333 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 4: You're right, The Carl Vincent is not the largest. It 334 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 4: is the gerald Ford that's the largest. My mistake there. 335 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 4: I apologize, Thank you for the correction. You'll remember that 336 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 4: we set a deal, created a deal with Saudi Arabia 337 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 4: and we sold them F thirty five fighters. The F 338 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 4: thirty five is top of the line, put on a 339 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 4: lot of American hardware in Saudi Arabia. Not only did 340 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 4: we do this, we sold them Abrams tanks. 341 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 3: Why in the world would we do that? And you 342 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 3: realize fairly quickly that there's no reason to do that. 343 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 4: There is absolutely no reason for them to have an 344 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 4: Abrams tank. They're not going to be doing any type 345 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 4: of invasion work. It's not how they operate. Why would 346 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 4: they have the m on Abrams. It's not for them, 347 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 4: it's for us. Start viewing Saudi Arabia not as this nation, 348 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 4: but rather for us as a land based aircraft carrier. 349 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 4: Think of it as a place for us to grab 350 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 4: hardware and launch from. 351 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 3: Now. 352 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 4: I want to be as clear as I can, and 353 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 4: I have said this many times. I find it disgusting 354 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 4: that after September eleventh we didn't handle Saudi Arabia like 355 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 4: we should have. 356 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 3: Because we could still be the same place with them 357 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 3: right now. 358 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 4: We don't know one hundred percent trust you, but compared to 359 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 4: everybody else, you're pretty great. And we'll find a way 360 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 4: to make deals because here we are. You can't go 361 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 4: back in time. You have to make the deals. The 362 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,719 Speaker 4: world is what the world is. There's a Sunni Muslim, 363 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 4: there's a Shia Muslim. There is a difference, and you 364 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 4: still have the whole Muslim world that you have to 365 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 4: deal with. Then you've got a Middle East where you 366 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 4: have a lot of different actors and a lot of 367 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 4: different factions, not only based on Sunni Shia, but based 368 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 4: on a whole bunch of thoughts on caliphates and being Islamis, etc. 369 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 4: Following Sharia that you're gonna have to deal with. Then 370 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 4: of course you want to have a launching pad that 371 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,959 Speaker 4: gets you closer to what China and the threat that 372 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 4: they are Saudi Arabia is right there. What do you 373 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 4: think the Greenland's conversation's about. Conversation is about Golden Dome, 374 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 4: but the Greenland conversation about keeping an eye on Russia 375 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 4: and on China. And he knows this, including the Europeans. 376 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 4: And you know why the Greenland conversation has gone quiet 377 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 4: because that deal is coming. 378 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 3: It's coming, and when that deal is. 379 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 4: Done, and Trump says, you know, the Europeans, they were 380 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 4: some negotiators. I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what 381 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 4: they were. They were some negotiators right there. That's gonna 382 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 4: be Trump's little give to Oh yeah, they opened up 383 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 4: their mouths and it didn't mean anything. And I told 384 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 4: them who their mother was, and then you know they 385 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 4: wanted this anyway, So we got it done. The Europeans 386 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 4: are gonna say, we really explained to President Trump how 387 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 4: this works in Europe. 388 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 3: Won't be pushed around, and. 389 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 4: They're gonna're gonna all glad hands, and then they're gonna 390 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 4: they're gonna get off the stage and they're gonna get 391 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 4: into their waiting gas cousin SUVs, and then they're gonna say, 392 00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 4: thank the Lord above that Trump did this, and so 393 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 4: will every European who isn't criminally insane. 394 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 3: By the way, the Europeans, where do I have the story? 395 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 4: The European Parliament reaffirming its commitment to transgender rights by 396 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 4: voting to include the recognition of trans women as women 397 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 4: within its official priorities for the You and Commission on 398 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 4: the Status of Women. Congratulations, ladies, you've been erased by 399 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 4: penises and I know what you're saying. 400 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 3: Usually you have to go to a magic mic show 401 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 3: for that. The Europeans just erased you. 402 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 4: Women are women, and men who say they're women are women, 403 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 4: and women don't have any say in that because we 404 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 4: just voted that men can say that they're women. 405 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 3: We're europe We would have been destroyed by the Russians 406 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 3: if it wasn't for the United States for seventy years. 407 00:26:54,720 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 4: Good lord, But some Europeans are backcraf crazy and they're 408 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 4: going to say thank goodness. So there are a lot 409 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 4: of pieces here, and this is where I see Saudi Arabia, 410 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 4: So that f thirty fives are going to make their 411 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 4: way over, Well, the more the merrier. 412 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 3: My question is to what end? What is. 413 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 4: The moment here? How do you make this come together? 414 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 4: Meaning you're now going to utilize military force to deal 415 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 4: with the Ayatola. How does that work? You're going to 416 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 4: take out more nuclear capabilities? Again, how does that work? 417 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 4: How does any of that lead to a freer Iranian 418 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 4: people out from under the yoke of this Islamist low life. 419 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 3: I can't do the math at all. I do this 420 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 3: for a living. 421 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 4: I talk to people smarter than me, who have more 422 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 4: understanding of the situation. None of it makes sense. And 423 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 4: then you have this story. Netnaho was in the US 424 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 4: talking to Trump and told net Nahoo that he wants 425 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 4: to keep trying diplomacy to pressure I ran into curbing 426 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 4: its nuclear program. Now, I asked the question, why would 427 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 4: you negotiate with somebody you were trying to remove from power? 428 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 3: So as President Trump not trying to. 429 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 4: Remove him from power, but he told the protesters that 430 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 4: help is on its way. 431 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 3: If the Iyotola is still. 432 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 4: There, what is the help that you're providing the protester 433 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 4: who just wants to live their life and not get 434 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 4: killed and not deal with the sanctions that have completely 435 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 4: crippled the nation. Not that I oppose the sanctions, but 436 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 4: it hasn't removed the Iyatola, and it hasn't removed the 437 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 4: grip of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard COREP. 438 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 3: So you said help was on the way. 439 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 4: How would I believe that if you're now negotiating with 440 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 4: the Ayatola regarding a nuclear program, or you're not negotiating 441 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 4: with the Eyetola, you know, negotiating with somebody else, does 442 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 4: the Islamic Revolutionary Guard course still remain? 443 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 3: Because if so, nothing changes. 444 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 5: Me. 445 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 3: I want the changes. I can appreciate the fact that 446 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 3: the people of Iran have to do this. I can 447 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 3: appreciate that. 448 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 4: The changes only come if the IRGC is broken, if 449 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 4: they crack, but there's still money going their way. 450 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 3: They still have on limited power. They're not giving that up. 451 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 4: They're not giving it up unless they have to, and 452 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 4: they don't fear that they have to. That's obvious because 453 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 4: it's been more than a month when we saw these 454 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 4: protests and they're still there. So when I see that 455 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 4: Trump is willing to strike. And when I see that, 456 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 4: Trump is saying, last time Irand decided that they were 457 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 4: better off not making a deal and they were hit 458 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 4: with midnight hammer that did not work well for them. 459 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 3: Hopefully this time they will be more reasonable and responsible. 460 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 4: This is the Ayatola. What reasonable and responsible were you 461 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 4: going for? Seriously, what did you think was going to happen? 462 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 4: How does this help the people? And if you're negotiating 463 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 4: with the Iahtola, you're saying that the Iatola can remain. 464 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 3: I'm not quite sure what the endgame is here. I'm 465 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 3: not I argue only that if you're gonna put. 466 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 4: Now two potentially carrier groups in the Persian golf in 467 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 4: the med in the Gulf of Oman, you're going to 468 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 4: take out every bit of their nuclear capability and the 469 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 4: Middle East is going to become a safer place. Does 470 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 4: that then lead to the Ayatola being crippled? Because it 471 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 4: would seem to me that the thing that you have 472 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 4: to cripple is not their ability to launch missiles from 473 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 4: these very mobile missile launchers. It's you and me on 474 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 4: a barstool having a bourbon. If you want to cripple 475 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 4: the Ayatola. You don't cripple him militarily, you cripple him economically. Well, 476 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 4: Tony had just said the sanctions, but they're still selling oil. 477 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 3: Do you move carrier groups into the. 478 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 4: Gulf of Oman, into the Persian Golf, into the med 479 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 4: to take out the oil fields to prevent them from pumping? 480 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 4: Do you quite literally blow them up and starve them completely? 481 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 4: And if you blow them up, how quickly can you 482 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 4: get them back online? So the people can now engage 483 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 4: the oil And as Trump would say, at the United 484 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 4: States could be a beneficiary as well, bringing down oil costs. 485 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 3: Maybe you want to get rid of them being able 486 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 3: to make oil so you. 487 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 4: Can have more opportunities with Venezuelan oil, to which we 488 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,479 Speaker 4: have some control. I'm just putting the ideas out. I'm 489 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 4: trying to make sense of the moment because it seems 490 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 4: to me the only way to get rid of the 491 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 4: IATOL and the IRGC is to get rid of the 492 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 4: oil that funds them. 493 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 3: Not the nuclear possibilities they may still have. 494 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 4: Although I'm fine with getting rid of the nuclear possibilities 495 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 4: they may still have. 496 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 3: I'm Tony Kats. 497 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 4: This is Tony Katz today. 498 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: Require I'm not going to comment on an allegation that 499 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: is unsubstantiated. 500 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 3: I don't know anything about that. I'm General James. She 501 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 3: had a piece of paper that I purchase. I don't 502 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 3: know anything about that. 503 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm not comment and I haven't seen or heard anything 504 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: about that. 505 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 3: But that would be inappropriate if it happened. 506 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, the Attorney General having the search history of a 507 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 4: member of Congress, I would agree inappropriate if it happened. 508 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 4: Just like keeping tabs on James Rosen from the Abamba 509 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 4: administration was wrong, just like the Biden administration tracking things 510 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 4: was wrong. It's wrong, just like Jack Smith having phone records, 511 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 4: completely wrong in every way. 512 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, Good to be here, Good 513 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:52,719 Speaker 3: to be with you. Uh my god, did Pam BONDI 514 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 3: screw it up yesterday? Screwed it up. 515 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 4: And I'm going to get more into this in the 516 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 4: next hour. But I did Sean Spicer's show today. You 517 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 4: should be able to see it this evening, and we 518 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 4: do a thing. He does a thing on winners and losers, 519 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 4: and my loser was Pambondy because Pambondy decided to meet 520 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 4: the clown show energy of the Democrats in the House 521 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 4: Judiciary Committee with her own clown show energy. What happened 522 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 4: yesterday with the House Judiciary was pathetic and embarrassing. It 523 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 4: was fundamentally stupid, and Pambondy had every opportunity to rise 524 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 4: above it. The Attorney General had every chance and instead, uh. 525 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 3: Nah, she got into the monk. 526 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 4: And there are people who are like, oh man, she 527 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 4: looked good. She didn't look good. She got in a 528 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 4: few jabs. Great, she got in a few jabs. 529 00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 3: It's not the point. 530 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 4: The point is they look like clowns. I didn't say 531 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 4: you couldn't push back. I didn't say, uh, you can't fight, 532 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 4: but you gotta be good at it. 533 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 3: She's not. She's not. I'm gonna get into it, and. 534 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 4: I have a take on what has to happen, and 535 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 4: then I'll get into what Carl Higbe over what Newsmax 536 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 4: had to say. Remember I do a lot of working Newsmax, 537 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 4: but I'm not paid by Newsmacks. Higbee was absolutely right, 538 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 4: and he's taken some heat. I've got his back. I 539 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 4: will explain. Keep it all right here. I'm Tony Katz, 540 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 4: and this is Tony Kats today.