WEBVTT - Is Netflix Still Netflix? 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:03.280 The Frames Per Second Podcast. 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:10.760 What's going on in sub boy, Nick? 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:13.240 You are now tuned into another episode of the frames 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:14.280 per Second Podcast. 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:15.920 I am here with Mike C. 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:21.840 Town Yo, Kenneth ban Ola, and Spike Lou of the 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:23.919 on Deck TV show and another week in of books. 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:28.040 How you doing, sir, I'm good. Uh. This episode is 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:29.760 going to be more of a discussion and conversation. 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:30.159 Uh. 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:33.320 We try to have these every now and then, just 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:35.400 to get an update on the landscape of all these 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:38.920 you know, streaming platforms. Lou has made fun of me 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:41.519 and Jalen already saying this is just a conversation basically 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:44.720 between us that we haven't with with y'all and them. 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:48.360 But yeah, just wanted us to hear what y'all think about. 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:53.680 Netflix overall and if Netflix is still quote unquote Netflix 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:57.040 as in like the big the biggest streaming giant, the 0:00:57.160 --> 0:00:58.800 number one head honcho when it comes to all the 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:02.800 streaming shit. Has the quality of Netflix still been in 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:06.120 that rarely air or has it dipped? Has other have 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:08.600 other platforms taken over that number one spot? 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:10.560 So just kind of discussion on that. 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:19.040 M is Netflix still came Basically yeah, of course. 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:24.960 I think what Netflix does better than any other streaming services. 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:28.800 It's in the zygees more so if there's a popular show. 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:31.319 For example, when it just came up. 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:36.440 Hunter Wives, it does a popular show that you had 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:38.120 not heard of a Seno freeview. 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:39.840 I'm telling you. 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:46.760 Hunter Wives, and you said, and you said, that's a 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:48.320 popular show because of what because. 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:49.840 You watch it? 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:51.240 It was number one on Netflix. 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:54.840 Everybody was still mean about bike dude that that was 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:57.720 going to my point as y'all let me finish, was 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:00.960 with stuff like that come across, I would have never 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:03.720 watched it if it wasn't for people making ridiculous comments 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:06.880 about how wild it was, how messy it was. I 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:10.040 was telling you can on my timeline for Twitter, and 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:11.600 then I watched it and I was like, okay. So 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:14.000 Netflix is good at controlling the conversation for like a 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:17.520 week or two, where the other streaming services struggle at 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:20.079 It's almost like if you know, you know, I'm watching 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:22.560 maybe three four shows on Apple right now, and it's like, 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:24.320 have you heard of this? And people are like, I 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:27.240 don't even know what that is because it doesn't trend anywhere. 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:28.280 People don't talk about it. 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:30.320 So Netflix still is doing a good job of incertain 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:33.360 it shows into the conversation, But the quality of the 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:34.160 shows I don't think. 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:39.359 I think there's paramoise better. Apple is better. 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:44.200 They're a lot better streaming service quality shows than it 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:44.800 is Netflix. 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:46.880 They just got they hand on the pulse. 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:52.760 I I wish Apple TV would slow down their quality 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:57.880 because they just raised the fucking price get because you know, 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:00.760 that show's hit and they have a and people gonna 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:03.840 show up to watch their shows. I think Netflix is 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:07.840 still Netflix. I think they are still the top dog. 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:11.040 I think Spike is right in the sense that you know, 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.720 when it comes to people talking about streaming, Netflix is 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:17.280 gonna pop up on people's minds most of all. And 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:21.440 I think while some of their original series don't necessarily 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:23.160 hit in the way that they did when they started 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:26.399 out with House of Cards, they still have Stranger Things, 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:30.600 which is still really really popular. Ozark was popular every 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:32.680 once in a while. Orange and Black was another hit 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:36.120 from them back in the day. I think what they 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:40.960 do really really well is they can find and purchase 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:44.080 content to put on there that people like to consume 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:45.880 for nostalgia purposes. 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:49.360 I think the recommendation. 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:54.080 Engine is really good when it comes to them recommending 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:56.720 stuff that you may like if you do the thumbs 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:58.720 up button and the thumbs down. I think they do 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:01.360 a good job of trying to find stuff that may 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:03.960 be suitable to what you want to watch. My Netflix 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:07.560 Q is crazy and I'm not going to get to 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:11.760 them all, but whenever something pops up, you know, on 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:13.960 the slider at the top, I'm adding it to my 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:18.159 list because I'm curious. So I think they still dominate. 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:23.080 I think they still have the most subscribers of all 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:24.839 the streaming services. 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:26.800 So I think they're still top dog. 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:30.159 I think it's gonna be hard for anyone to knock 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:32.080 Netflix off his pedestal. 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:38.640 Yeah, I would say. 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:41.240 I think it's hard not to say Netflix is still 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:44.040 number one because it's kind of like Kleenex. It's like 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:45.640 you don't even think about it as a brand. You 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:47.560 just think about it as just the product itself. 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:51.960 And I've still like to lose point. 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:55.240 It is still popular enough to catch different moments in 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:57.960 on like social media and chattering based off of what 0:04:58.000 --> 0:04:59.520 it's on. I feel like it's one of the I 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:01.960 feel like it's we're like, it's not viewed as two B, 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:05.240 but it has to be quality shows and TV and 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:08.520 like movies, but they still consider it like, I guess 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:10.640 better than that because it's the first thing that everyone 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:15.120 thinks about. As far as Netflix being that popular brand. However, 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:18.000 I do think it's slipping. I do think it's slipping. 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:21.400 I think apps like HBO Max or whatever it's called themself. 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.440 I think they're starting to turn out shows that are like, Okay, 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:28.760 this rivals Netflix even with the variety of stuff. 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:30.680 And I think Apple. 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:32.960 TV Plus because they raising their price, can they got 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:35.320 to come out with most shit otherwise I'm canceling my shit. 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:38.560 So and so far they got they got a nice 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:41.599 run because you know The Morning Show coming back. People 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:44.240 talking about that, even though that show is had a 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:49.040 crazy ended for a third season and they obviously got 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:51.760 the studio. Then you got Ted Lasso may come back, 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:53.600 Shrinking is big. 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:56.320 Invasion is a show. I'm watching this, the South Fast Show. 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:59.760 It just came back, Invasion Foundation, and then the War 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:03.000 Smoke Like, it's a lot of stuff that you're starting to, 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:05.600 you know, run off a list. I think Apple is 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:09.240 gonna come back, Yeah, Apple TV Plus is definitely, and 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:11.000 then they got the Well, I don't know if this 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:13.240 is a big thing, but like movies, going straight to 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:16.479 their platform like f one and then Spike Lee joint 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:19.040 like they're starting to kind of get like, all right, 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:20.880 we're attraction. 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:26.119 Yeah. But like Spike said, I think when it comes 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:27.160 to your. 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:32.839 Everyday person, it's hard to talk to them about like 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:37.160 Apple TV content because they're not in the know. It's 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:40.440 almost like they're so somewhat bougie to a certain degree 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:42.760 about some of the shows that they have and how 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:44.400 many people have I mean, there's a lot of people 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:46.400 that have iPhones, but are you going to go to. 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:49.160 An Apple TV to upgrade just to watch the show? 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:52.880 Like it really has to Like Break three, like Severance 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:57.640 is a really popular show. 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:58.040 You know, and it's done well for them. 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:05.160 But in terms of like super brand recognition, it's Netflix. 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:09.400 I think Max is a close. I don't know about 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:10.160 Mats Nick. 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:12.880 Max, those are the only two that I can see. 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:14.600 Mike, I don't know what your thoughts are, but like 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:19.440 I think Netflix is it's still King, but like it's 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:22.000 a it's like the King off of the House of 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:23.480 the Dragon's Agent. 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:29.080 I'm with you. I don't like these days. 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.240 I don't even know how often I turn to Netflix 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:33.960 if I'm just like man, I really want something to watch, 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:38.760 I'll usually go to Max first, I'll get to Netflix, 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:43.000 but sometimes I even pop on Hulu first because especially 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:45.240 for the price, I don't think Netflix is holding up 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:48.360 their end of the bargain because more often than not, 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:51.080 the shows I end up watching are trash. 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:52.520 You know. 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:55.160 They're getting a lot of foreign shows, which I think 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:57.680 is great, Like they'll get a lot of Korean shows 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:02.640 and Spanish speaking shows, but then when I watch them, 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:04.679 I'm just like, this is fucking awful. 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:05.760 This is awful. 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:09.600 But they still they do really good with documentaries. They 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:15.160 do a great job with especially docuseries. But I think 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:17.800 that Netflix is only still at the top because our 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:20.720 name recognition, because people, just like Nick said, it's hard 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:25.960 to separate Netflix from streaming giant, you know, even though 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:30.160 other uh other streaming services have better shows at this point, 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:33.360 let's be real, Like Max has better shows, Apple TV 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:36.720 has better shows, but Netflix is just they've. 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:38.360 Been around longer. 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:42.319 They're like the j Z of streaming services, like the 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:46.320 they can put out as many fucking whack versus as 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:49.880 they want, but because at some point we held them 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:53.200 to this standard, there's nothing they can do to break it. 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:58.680 I don't know it fits. 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:00.920 You know, I'm not wrong. 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:06.000 That's fit. Now they are now they're putting out a 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:10.640 matt Na Carter from a reasonable doubt. What is a 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:12.440 holy Grail, Spike is after the. 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:14.840 Album when Kingdom Come. 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:17.280 And every once in a while they'll give you a 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:19.360 four four four, but then most of the time it's 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:23.040 more Magna Carta's And then the shows that are good. 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:26.480 I feel like they didn't actually like do much with him. 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:28.800 They just pulled him from somewhere else. So it's almost 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:31.000 like that album where he was like doing it with 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:36.240 jaylight Trona people from comedy, you know what I'm saying, 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:38.040 Like we was just biting my Commi's like. 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:46.040 It's Netflix, Yeah, I think it's just so for me, 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:51.480 it's probably the first well after YouTube. 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:54.079 It's between YouTube and then Netflix. 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:58.400 And I think part of it is because I do 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:00.800 watch a lot of those foreign shows. Now the quality 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:05.080 may not be superb, but I'm watching it, like Mark, 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:08.319 they be sending me all kinds of Korean shit. I 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:12.760 watch it bro a lot of foreign films. I end 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:14.560 up watching a lot of those stuff. So for me 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.480 as a consumer of that stuff, because my agro just 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:20.840 hits that way, That's why I tend to go through it, 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:23.800 go to that one first, just to see what's there. 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:26.680 Quality. 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:29.160 I think in terms of quality, Apple TV is is 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:29.839 top notch. 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:33.320 I do go to Max. 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:35.120 I think if it's a Saturday night, I said, I 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:36.880 don't need to find a movie to watch, I go 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:39.160 to Netflix first, and then I go to Max to 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:40.000 see what's on there. 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:42.480 The rest of the ones are kind of. 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:46.560 Like specialty services that that may have something, or I 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:50.719 play for an annual subscription that's cheaper like Paramount plus 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:52.640 peak out or whatever. But I know we don't have 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:57.839 a total streaming platform conversation. But right now I don't 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.440 see a lot of people talking about those in the 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:02.240 way that they talk about Netflix. 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:04.679 But you don't see it, You don't see a challenger 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:08.480 because to me, like I see, I think app like 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:11.040 the one thing I think when of y'all mentioned it, 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:15.120 like Apple has the unique kind of advance, like they're 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:19.200 demn nearing like ninety percent of people's households already without 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:20.679 them knowing it because they have iPhones. 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:22.400 So all you really have to. 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:25.400 Do is do one of their little bundle deals with 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:31.840 like Apple Music, you get Apple Music, Apple TV fans. 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:32.000 Yeah, that little Yeah. 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:34.800 So like, it only takes somebody doing that to being like, 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:36.160 all right, let me just see what else they got, 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:37.600 you know what I'm saying, while I'm paying for this, 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:39.560 and then they fall into a rapper hole and they 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:42.079 be like, and I think that's what I'm saying right now. 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:42.760 Yeah, you're right. 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:45.079 I think Netflix is still keing, But. 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:47.280 Maybe in the next five to ten years we're gonna 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:51.040 be saying something different because yep, things are changing. 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:54.360 Likes, no one's gonna stay that high for that long. 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:57.440 They had a huge lead over everyone because they were 0:11:57.440 --> 0:11:59.800 the first one to really kind of get established and 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:03.360 really be innovative in that way. But now that everybody's 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:06.920 kind of got the formula, somebody took it up a recipe. 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:09.240 I don't think everybody has a formula. I think that's 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:10.040 the point of it. 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:15.600 With Apple TV, for instance, the only mainstream show that 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:18.200 they have is Severing. Shit, they took it the whole 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:24.560 first season. You're right, that's true, but that's off the air. 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:28.160 Like what I'm saying is they put out a lot 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:30.360 of quality content, but it doesn't seem like a lot 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:34.679 of it latches on Netflix because to Mike's example, they 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:37.960 are jay Z. They throw stuff out all the time. 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:40.360 Like I mentioned, y'all Hunter Wives. I wouldn't watch that 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:42.959 on any other streaming service. It just so happened that 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:45.200 it was trending number one on Netflix. People will talk 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:50.920 about you watching it in general, don't knock it till 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:55.360 you try watch when y'all watch, you know. 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:57.720 Try to rationalize goofball ship and say, that's the reason 0:12:57.760 --> 0:12:58.680 why they still. 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:02.400 Keep That is the reason why, because they have these 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:06.240 flash in the paying moments like the movie that it's 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:09.319 not even good when Sandra Bullock was blind and everybody 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:11.319 was talking about it. Like, they have these moments that 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:13.840 other streaming services just very. 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:15.960 Rarely do they have. But they have this ship with 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:16.559 Jake Paul. 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:19.679 They've been doing live football games like they No one 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:21.439 else is even close to what they're doing as a 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:22.160 streamer service. 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:25.360 But I'm only bringing up and I'm only giving you that, uh, 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:27.800 I'm agreeing with you with that point is because of 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.120 the time frame though, they were the first to do 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:32.079 any of this shit, so of course they're going to 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:34.960 be ahead of everybody. I'm just saying as time is 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:37.920 going on, that window was gonna close. Because of course, 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:40.120 now that we know that people can do exclusive deals 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:42.800 for streaming platforms. They're not gonna Netflix ain't the only 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.120 motherfucker in the room. When other people want to do 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:48.319 these creative things. Not everybody's just gonna say I can 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:49.959 get this on Netflix. They say, no, I can get 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:51.800 this on here and there. In the third, Mike, you 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:53.599 mentioned a good a good show that I'm about to 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:57.600 start watching on TV, which is the yeah, damaskts Like, 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:01.959 it's like we're there's once you started having multiple conversations 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:05.280 with other platforms, a lot of shit is just gonna 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:07.480 whoever's gonna be the highest bidder, who's gonna give me 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:09.120 the most creative control? 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:19.360 Yep. I think at some point someone could challenge them 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:20.120 for that. 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:29.080 But Netflix has three hundred and one million subscribers to 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:37.880 Apple Plus, Paramount Matts Prime, Like that's gonna like, I 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:40.240 don't know what they're gonna put on their platforms in 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:44.640 order to catch up with them, especially Apple TV Plus, 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:48.400 because they don't have they only do original content. That's 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:52.080 the advantage that other entities have is that they can 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:55.080 go get old ip and put it on that put 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:58.360 on their platforms, and Netflix has that in abundance. 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:01.680 But and I don't know, Mike, I want to get 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:03.480 your thoughts on this point and that I'm thinking about 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:06.240 as Ken was saying that are we judging these platforms 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:09.240 based off subscribers or just the quality of content? Because 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:11.880 to those I'm sorry, I was gonna say that could 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:15.240 be two different conversations to me, I agree. 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:16.400 I agree. 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:20.400 I think that I understand where Kn's coming from as 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:26.160 far as them having a lot of uh subscribers, but 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:28.520 I think a lot of them are people like me 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:32.560 who just don't cancel shit. I've had Netflix pretty much 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:34.480 since it started, and I just don't cancel. 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:36.200 I don't. I barely ever use it. 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:38.560 I need to fucking cancel it because it's like, damn 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:41.440 near twenty dollars a month and I'm barely using any 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:43.880 of it, you know what I'm saying. So I think 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:47.640 that them having a large subscriber base just plays into 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:49.320 the fact that they've been around for so long. 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:51.040 As far as. 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:55.120 Quality of shows, Like I said, it's very rare that 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.960 I watch anything other than a documentary on Netflix, and 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:00.720 walk Away being like that was really good. That all 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:04.600 of that said, I did just watch Night Always Comes, 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:09.000 which is I'm pretty sure I really liked it. I 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:10.280 thought it was excellce. 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:12.920 I started it and I haven't. I was like, writing 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:14.720 the first five to ten minutes. 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:17.600 It's it's it's straw for white people. 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:21.120 Man, Yo, I'm glad you brought that up back, because 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.600 that was the thought, Mike, I promise you. 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:25.800 I was talking to my wife. I was like, we 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:27.040 rarely see. 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:33.960 Poor white people are tour on TV, and and it 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:37.200 was that movie that that created that thought. I was 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:39.760 and I started really thinking about said, how often do 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:41.920 we see struggling white phones on television. 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:46.200 It's it's not just the struggle, and I'm not gonna 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:50.000 get any spoilers away, it's just the fact that she 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:54.760 is having the most ridiculously bad day. Like this felt 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:57.160 like if there is a white Tyler Perry, they wrote 0:16:57.200 --> 0:17:01.640 this movie. But this but unlike Straw, this is actually 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:03.280 really good. 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:06.720 Like it's a good story, it's tense. 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:09.680 It's not like you're watching being like ha ha, that's 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:10.320 so stupid. 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:12.040 It's really good. 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:15.160 So but yeah, So Netflix every once in a while 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:16.840 will pop out with something really good. 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:20.399 But for the most part. 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:22.399 I'm not clicking anything on Netflix. I saw Hunter Wives 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:26.359 pop up, but I'm sorry I don't. I'm not that 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:28.920 bored for me, that is. 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:31.280 Yeah, it ain't for you. It definitely is not for you. 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:34.879 You're not the target. All you know like it and 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:35.920 Nick gon like it too. 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:42.000 I'm laughing because one of the baby mamas I'm talking to, 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:44.879 she she talked about it because she went she was like, 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:48.359 I thought I was watching like the Wives of Hunters. 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:53.760 Like I don't want to click. 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:57.399 I don't want to press play on any episode. 0:17:57.680 --> 0:17:58.359 What's your start? 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:00.720 Sit there and watch all of them. I'm telling you 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:02.320 know what I'm saying. 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:04.560 Can She told me what it was about, and I 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:06.960 was like, I'm not gonna just like what you're about 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:09.720 to go on ken if I click play one time. 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:11.879 I'm watching the whole thing, and I don't feel like 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:13.080 wasting my time right now. 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:17.280 Right now, I think Netflix has bridges to too make 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:19.520 iin't never watched. 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:24.400 It's really poplic I don't. 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:27.159 I get that mixed up with Down Down Downtown Abbey. 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:33.480 That's crazy because HBO got a version of that too. 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:37.440 That no one talks about the yielded age. 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:40.600 It's just like, uh, I would assume it's just like 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:41.600 what you bridges. 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:43.600 Mike I had, I had a few white women had 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:46.199 to correct me on that that show it's called Downton 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:51.600 Abbey because I said down, yeah, because I was like, 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:53.320 I told him, was like, why people keep talking about 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:53.760 this downtown. 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:56.960 I was like, it was like, it's down What is 0:18:56.960 --> 0:18:59.600 that white downtown? Wait a minute, it's like. 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:01.840 The ship. 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:10.040 I think it's pronounce it's hold on but everything everything 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:11.320 I know say downtown. 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:14.200 Oh ship, He's right, there is no coming. 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:22.600 Oh my god, I've been calling this ship downtown Abbey 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:26.040 for like ten years. 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:28.080 He's like I was doing the same thing. That's how 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:30.040 you know I didn't give a funk about the series. 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:34.000 Bro, what and you probably thought they was crazy when 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:34.920 they first told Yeah, I. 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:36.479 Was like, I was like I was, I thought they 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:38.159 was doing some racist ship, like trying to correct me 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:39.920 on my my pronunciation and all that. 0:19:39.880 --> 0:19:42.760 Ship like diga, it's downtown. 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:48.920 Downtown, bro, I thought it was downtown. I always saw 0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:49.600 W two. 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:53.399 That's crazy. So because because I don't know what the 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:56.200 fuck of Doubnton? Yeah, where is Mountain? 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:06.639 I don't even know what that is? Position is a 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:09.119 mental illness, right it is? 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:16.880 I'm sorry that probably went uh got down sent. 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:21.879 For those listening. I am not laughing. 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:23.600 I'm sorry. I apologize. 0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:42.239 Uh Jesus, you don't have one. The one thing that 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:50.480 I think I could probably contend with Netflix, it's to be. 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:53.919 As crazy as that may sound, I feel you on 0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:59.879 that man to be in terms of like name recognition, 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:02.399