WEBVTT - Patreon Voted: The Nice Guys (10th Anniversary) 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:11.600 The Frames per Second Podcast. Welcome everybody to the Frames 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:14.720 per Second Podcast. Kenneth be And chaired with Rod, Mike 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:20.920 and Spike whatever you. Patreon voted ten anniversary of the 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:26.159 Nice Guys. So we're to give a quick conversation about it. 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:31.600 It's a twenty sixteen American neo noir buddy actually comedy 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:35.320 film directed by Shane Black who corrupted the screenplay with 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:40.319 Anthony Bacadozi, produced by Joel Silver, has Russell Crow, Ron 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:46.240 Goslin in it, and Kim Baseger, Margaret Qually, Keith David 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:51.280 and some other folks. So Shane Black, Let's see what 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:56.120 does Shane Black do? Leath the weapon? Oh leath the weapon? 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:58.880 Last Boy, Scout Long, Kiss, good Night, Kis Kiss, Main Bang, 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:02.720 Iron Man three, and I guess a new version of 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:04.520 the Predator twenty eighteen Predator. 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:08.760 Have you guys ever? Have you guys ever watched this 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:10.280 movie before this? 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:14.559 First time I heard about this movie, I saw it. 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:17.480 It just looked like it wouldn't wouldn't be good to me. 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:19.679 When I saw it, I didn't have any desire to 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:22.160 go to the movies and see it, and I didn't 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.240 have any desire if I saw it streaming somewhere. 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:28.000 What about you, Mike, never heard of it, had no 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:28.800 desire to watch it. 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:32.840 Yeah I haven't. Yeah, I'm in the same boat as 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:35.000 you all. I don't remember seeing the trailer or the 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:36.840 post or anything. As a matter of fact, I was 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:39.440 talking to Rod last night. I thought we were doing 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:43.000 an animation movie, but it was the bad guys. Not 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:47.880 I've seen bad guys with that shit, you know, but 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:49.680 nice guys not so much. 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:51.240 I haven't seen this before, but. 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:54.600 When it came out, yeah I do, because I was like, 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:56.840 why is Russell Crew and what's the other girl name 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:00.880 guys playing in a movie like this. I just didn't 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:03.280 want to see them in those type of roles. So yeah, 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:06.280 just I just never had any of desirests to see this. 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:09.160 How'd you feel like if you watched it? 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:12.280 Pretty much the same? Like I didn't miss anything, you know, 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:17.880 like it was okay, But that's it. Like it's not 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:20.120 something I would recommend to anybody, like, oh man, you 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:22.640 got to see this, this Russell Crow. It's more it's 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:24.679 other Russle Crow films I'll tell people to go watch. 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:27.040 It's other Ryan Goslin films that I would tell people 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:30.480 to go watch. This is not one of them. But 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:32.799 I mean it was okay. It wasn't like, oh my god, 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:35.239 he like, it was just it was just okay. 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:37.959 It was just okay. And my expectations were very low. 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:42.600 Yeah, I didn't know what it was until I typed 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:45.600 in and to watch it like last night, which is 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:47.480 uh yeah. 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:50.079 Really like. I didn't finish this until like twelve something. 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:56.360 And I was looking into it, and interesting enough, apparently 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:58.400 it's developed a cult following over the years. 0:02:59.080 --> 0:02:59.920 I don't know that either. 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:04.120 Yeah, yeah, I just found out that out. But uh, well, 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:07.480 what about you run a Spike and Mike. 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:12.840 I can be quick. I didn't like any of this. 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:15.240 I didn't like a single minute of this. This was 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:18.560 fucking stupid. I don't know why this has a cult following. 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:22.720 I didn't laugh a single time. This was ridiculous. I 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:27.519 don't get the point. Yeah, and why is it two hours? 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:30.280 It's just why was this even voted on? 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:33.640 I think because of the cult following. I think that 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:35.520 that's what I was trying to figure out, the same thing. 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:38.000 Somebody nominated and I think, yeah, Patreon voted for it, 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:39.640 But I think because of the cult following. 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:41.160 When I saw that they had a cult following. 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:44.840 Yeah, I was like, oh, that's probably why they ended 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:48.119 up voting for it, But how do you feel. 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:49.720 About his spike? I could see why I got a 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:50.200 cold following. 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:53.720 It's like one of those little fringe movies that not 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:55.000 a lot of people know about, but if you know 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:57.720 about it, you love it, like Pineapple Express or some 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:00.200 shit like that. But I didn't hate it. I thought 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:02.200 Russell Crowe did a good job. I liked the I 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:04.200 like the dialogue one than anything. I felt like they 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:07.400 were snarky and it was smart, but the story really 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:11.280 was whatever I'm the new or part of it was cool. 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:14.880 Ryan Goshmin did a good job. So the acting was good, 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:18.080 but it was just a mid level story with good 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:20.680 actors in it. And then the theme of it like 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:22.240 carried it M. 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:28.080 Four for four man. Uh I When this was over, 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:33.320 I was like, Okay, what you know? And I like comedy. 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:36.039 I like comedy, but I was I was with you, Mike, like, 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:39.800 I didn't I didn't laugh at anything, you know. I thought, 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:41.680 I said, well, maybe it's just because you know, it's 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:42.640 it's late and I'm. 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:44.200 Tired, But nah, that I don't think that was it. 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:47.680 I'm normally I'm always up late, you know, So I 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:49.279 don't think that was it, even though I had a 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:52.040 super busy day yesterday. But nevertheless, I don't think that 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:55.360 impacted I just think it resonated with me at all. 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:57.640 I think the beginning of it when they were introducing 0:04:57.680 --> 0:05:02.640 all the characters and stuff, with Healey, who's played by 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:06.839 Russell Crowe and mister March played by Ryan Gosling, which 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:08.760 I know he looks weird with that little mustache he 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:09.599 got on or whatever. 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:12.440 And I know it's the seventies, but seventy seven to 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:14.080 be a zach because. 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:16.000 We heard the earth Wind and Fire some other tunes 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:20.039 playing in the background. But yeah, I didn't find the 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:26.160 story particularly interesting. You're two guys that started out as 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:30.039 enemies that came together as friends to look for this girl, 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:32.000 which is pretty much the premise of what it was. 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:34.080 So I'm like, and then. 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:38.000 In the mists of all that are these jokes and 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:41.760 weird sort of things that happened throughout the whole movie. 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:48.000 So an hour and fifty five minutes, it's insane for me. 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:54.360 But yeah, so Holland, not Healey, Holland, Yeah, Hollo March, 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:57.400 my bad, my hollow March and Jackie Lee. Yeah, but 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:01.120 did you guys got to think about the chemistry. You 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:06.520 gotta like the chemistry of Russell Crowe, and it was fine. 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:09.159 I think for me, I just would have wanted chemistry 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:11.479 in a different way, not in a movie like this 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:16.279 when you got two actors like that. So I never, 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:18.840 I never it kind of like what Spike was saying, 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:22.599 it was okay, dialogue was fine, you know, but I 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:26.080 guess chemistry was fine too. But it's just I would 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:29.080 have rather chemistry and something else. Yeah, this was kind 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:32.120 of goofy for them. We ain't used to seeing them goofy. 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:34.440 This is kind of like little goofy. That's what I 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:36.240 was surprised when he was reading the other movies that 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:38.280 he did. None of them really have that type of 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:40.600 back and forth the dialogue or whatever it may be. 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:41.480 Uh. 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:44.880 I thought the daughter did a good job Ryan Gosien's daughter. 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:47.160 I think she did a good job in the movie 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:50.480 relevant though they forced her in there, which is why 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:53.040 I feel like she was playing behind the eight ball. 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:56.000 But she she didn't suck like child actors usually do. 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:59.440 And uh, I thought I liked how she played that role, 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:01.720 like dead paying kind of serious, but she was still 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:04.520 a child. Did you think did you feel like she 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:05.120 was irrelevant? 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:09.000 Marke? I don't think that's what I'm saying, So she 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:13.600 definitely wasn't irrelevant. She just he's a terrible father. I'll 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:17.600 say that, you know what I mean? The Little Girl actor. 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:19.120 I meant to look her up after we were done, 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:20.800 after I was done watching it, to see what else 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:22.559 she's been in, because I'm pretty sure i've seen her before. 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:26.960 She was good. Yeah, she was good. It's just I 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:27.720 agree with Rod. 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:31.640 The chemistry between Russell Crowe and Ryan Gosling. It was 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:34.360 just like, yeah, y'all have good chemistry, but this story 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:38.120 is stupid, so I don't care. And I thought it 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:39.680 was gonna be good. When you started off with fucking 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:43.240 a nice you know said that titties just dead. 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:45.200 I was like, Okay, we got dead titties. I might 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:45.560 like this. 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:48.640 Yeah, and I guess when I'm in irrelevant. It's just 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:53.040 that I didn't think she was necessary. Yeah, she saw 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.640 the case, but I think they made made it that way. 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.000 This movie could have been totally fine in my opinion 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:01.280 without her, Like why do we need her? You got 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:04.160 a movie with Russell Crowe and Ryan Gosling and you 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:05.120 still added this. 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:08.600 I think it was to show how Ryan Gosley as 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:10.720 a father was rubbing off on her, like she picked 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:15.000 up his investigative skills. But it also was showing because 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:17.520 he's that way, he can't properly raise her. 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:20.920 Why do you need that in the story. I guess 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:22.960 this is what I was to add character depth. 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:26.080 So it's not just here's a goofy cop and another 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:28.800 goofy cop and they're trying to solve a goofy case. 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:32.120 They're trying to make Ryan Gosling more human by giving 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:36.600 him something to care about, because without her, what's the motivation. Yeah, 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:39.840 I feel like, just real quick, I feel like, sure 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:41.679 you could do I think it's different. I think it's 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:44.240 other ways you can do that, Because anytime she was inserted, 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:47.720 I was just like it threw me off, like why 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:51.800 is she in the middle of this this porn industry 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:58.280 party or why she at this shootout? 0:08:58.440 --> 0:08:59.160 Like it's just like. 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:01.560 Like, why do we have this little girl here? I 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.960 can't it disconnected me? I guess is what because it 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:08.000 doesn't seem believable to me? Well, yeah, well nothing in 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:10.720 this movie is believable. If this was a serious film, 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:11.680 then yeah, it would. 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:11.960 I would. 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:14.320 I'd be with you if the tone of the movie 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:17.200 was very much like this is too serious, if this 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:19.800 is the Wire and this was happening with some little 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:21.640 white girl, I'd be like, Okay, this doesn't make any sense. 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:23.080 This is silly. What the fuck are y'all doing? 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:26.439 But since the vibe is very three Company, not the 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:28.880 Bee's Company's Larry Moow and Curly. 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:30.560 H three Stooges. 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:34.160 Since the vibe is very much three Stooges, it's like, Okay, 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:36.679 of course, yeah, throw a little girl into a porn 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:39.760 star party, because now we can make the joke of 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:41.800 why is this girl at the porn star party? Yes, 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:43.640 of course, throw the little girl in the middle of 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:46.200 a shootout, because then we can say, hey, guys, isn't 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:48.400 it wacky if there's a little girl with the shootout? 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:52.320 Hey? Yeah? For me, that that was Yeah. I'm not 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:53.679 saying it worked well, it didn't. 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:55.800 It was just it was added to that this is 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:58.640 dumb to me, but that's what they were going for. 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:04.120 Yeah. I liked her in this. 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:07.400 I think it did a you know, kind of what 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:12.040 Michael saying earlier did really show how how bad he 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:14.520 was just at everything, you know, And I mean we 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.839 were introduced to him, you know, in a tub in 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:21.600 a full suit forgetting her birthday, and her writing on 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:22.720 his hand you'll. 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:26.560 Never be happy. Oh she wrote that. Yeah, I think 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:28.640 she wrote that. I think she wrote it. 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:32.120 Yeah, yeah, So, and you know, it felt like she 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:37.199 was a way to kind of offset like, you know, 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:41.640 their mishaps and their fuck ups and stuff like that. 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:46.960 It's great to sort of a recentery of everything, is 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:47.960 what I felt, because. 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:49.600 When I was like, why the hell is she driving 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:49.880 a car? 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:54.880 But of course he broke his hand and he he 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.080 still needed to solve the case. And then you know, 0:10:57.120 --> 0:11:00.320 I think they kind of show that heally, he was 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:02.720 kind of supposed to be this good guy. You know, 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:07.079 when we were introduced to him, he's punching out a PDF. 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:07.760 You know. 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:13.400 So and then we introduced to mister March and he's, 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:18.000 you know, like, yeah, he's a fuck up. And then uh, 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:24.560 he's looking for Amelia, and then Amelia hires him to 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:29.440 scare mister March, and that's how they first started interacting. 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:32.280 But in that particular scene when we first see Amelia, 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:36.280 he was like, yeah, you're seven dollars short. So you know, 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:39.320 so it's just like, you know, he's he's a good guy, 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:41.920 but it's probably while she was trying to give him 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:46.520 that sob story. But he's also like, uh, has tendencies 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:48.400 to I don't know if that's being bad or whatever, 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:49.280 but he didn't get her. 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:52.480 He jipped that old lady. Who the old lady that 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:53.800 was looking for her husband that was dead. 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:56.480 Oh no, no, no, no, I'm talking about I'm talking about 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:57.000 Ussell Croz. 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:59.520 Oh I thought the other one. Oh yeah, yeah, mister yeah, 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:04.000 mister March. March is absolutely a piece of Yeah. But 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:08.400 oh god, yeah, come on, Spike, like she deserved that, 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:13.840 like she deserves when. 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:17.400 This sister funeral, she deserves. Yeah, you wouldn't take that money? 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:21.000 Yeah I would. I definite would have take that money. 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:22.840 How long you would have taken? 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:28.360 No, I'm not ripping off some old lady. They want 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:31.400 to get into heaven? Yeah, definitely if it exists, I 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:33.840 want to get there. I would have told her, like, man, 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:38.079 your husband is dead. How is that worse than taking 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:39.040 that money? 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:40.760 You got to deal with her, like, so, what do 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:42.400 you think is gonna happen when the case ends? 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:45.319 We couldn't find him? Oh, that is a good I 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:47.719 don't even think about that. We couldn't find him kid 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:49.080 on no where he went to man. 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:51.480 Sorry, I couldn't have got him on the on the 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:56.880 on the man foid in a in a blue Clearly 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:59.120 somebody has told that old woman that her husband is dead. 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:00.240 She's just ignoring. 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:02.120 That. 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:05.200 Would I taking that she had the venture? Yeah? 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:07.680 But you know again, he's just he's just he's a 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:12.880 terrible guy. Uh did you don't? I didn't laugh. 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:15.600 But the scream that he had when he broke his 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:21.079 own bro, I did not expect him. I haven't seen that. 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:24.000 People do think that part was funny, Like what in 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:24.600 the hell? 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:27.920 I wonder if that was improvised because that was a 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:28.880 bitch ass scream. 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:32.920 He let a couple of like shrills throughout this whole 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:36.080 thing like that, and this whole ship and stuff like that. 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:38.760 So maybe maybe that's why he added to the character 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:43.400 or whatever, you know. I don't know, but yeah, so 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:46.160 but yeah, that's that, you know. So that was our 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:51.440 first introduction to them. And then later on Healey is 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:55.000 confronted by Keith Davis character older guys what he's called 0:13:55.040 --> 0:14:02.200 the movie in blue face because of the the. 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.559 Ink inc that verse it was an ink ball of 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:06.520 was okay, yeah, from a bank robbery or something, I assume. 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:11.600 Yeah, So they went to kind of try to press 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:14.600 on him to give up Amelia. 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:16.840 And he would not. 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:22.440 Now remember the earlier scene when he was asking March 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:26.080 about who his client was, he gave that up immediately. 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:27.480 He was like, dang, you just gave all your client 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:30.440 just like that, but he wouldn't so again, showing. 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:33.560 Like the difference between the two. But he got out of. 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:39.680 It, and then he goes to hire March to solve 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:42.480 the case. And then in this particular scene, that's when 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:44.720 they said, yeah, I heard you're actually pretty good at 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:47.320 what you do, so which is why I'm hiring And 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:51.120 now they're working together. And from there that's pretty much 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:53.400 the rest of the movie. So I guess them kind 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:55.480 of setting all of that up. Did you guys like 0:14:55.600 --> 0:15:01.720 how we went from character introduction to character the characters 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:05.120 meeting and bumping has and and the disagreement to working together. 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:08.120 I think that what did it for me was just 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:08.800 the dialogue. 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:12.640 It was good dialogue, Like the story was still weak 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:15.160 and what they was trying to do the setup was weak, 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:17.280 I feel like, but I feel like the actors were 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:20.440 so good and the little snappy comebacks and back and 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:23.360 forth with other people and with each other that I 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:24.800 was interested at least. 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:31.920 Okay, all right, what about your like set up pretty 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:34.800 much the rest of the movie with these two characters, 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:36.280 It's okay. 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:38.960 I mean, I just think the plot was kind of weak. 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:42.440 We're not kind of it was weak, and that the 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:46.760 weak plot, it's gonna ultimately just be a weak movie. 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:51.800 I mean, I think the actors were fine, but the 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:56.080 plot just wasn't strong enough for me. A lot of 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:57.800 times I felt kind of lost in it. 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:01.600 It's just like, Okay, what's the point I stealing? Kind 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:04.400 of lost on the full story of what was happening, honestly, 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:08.680 you know, uh, you know, I think they went to 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:11.400 find this guy chat and there was some protesters out there, Mike, 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:12.720 if you ever done a protest like that? 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:16.160 Who were they in front of? Yes? 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:24.920 No, laid on the ground and pretended I was dead. No, 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.160 I've laid on the ground and like a human they 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:31.200 call it like a human chain so the cops can't 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:33.240 move you. But I've never just been like, oh, I'm 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:36.160 not talking to you because I'm dead. I was at 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:38.000 a protests where someone put on like a bloody fur 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:39.440 coat and acted like they were dead the whole time, 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:40.680 and I was like, please get up. 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:44.600 This is stupid. You're not changing anyone's mind. They see 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:48.280 that you're a human, dumb. 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:52.720 You would love to have more content from Franks per second. 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:55.280 Become a patron where you can contribute to what we 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:58.480 review and discuss. Our Patreon gives the listeners the power 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:01.640 to nominate and vote a month discussion in film review, 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:05.040 while also nominating and voting on weekly solo reviews from 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:08.000 each cast member. 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No, that's something he's seen. 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:06.879 I probably have no, No, not really, that didn't sound interesting. 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:10.119 I thought it was funny, the whole interaction at the 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:12.040 house when they got there and it was burned down, 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:14.600 and then the dude was riding by. He's like, he'll 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:16.600 give you twenty dollars if you talked to him, a 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:18.960 little dude on the bike. So I thought that part 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:21.600 was funny. But nah, I wasn't interested in the investigative 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:22.800 journal documentary. 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:26.520 I guess my thing was like, who's gonna who's gonna 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:31.960 necessarily take that seriously? Like seeing a political statement in 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:34.399 a porn video? 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:37.679 I think because then they do that with like was 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:43.280 it Sarah Palin? Sarah Palin? Well, they were depicting Sarah 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:44.760 Palin like she became. 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:50.359 Like this thisslike character character that people put on a 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:55.639 wig and act like they were her porn ladies. That 0:18:55.720 --> 0:19:01.480 was everything. Yeah, politician, yeah, popular politician and different things. 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:03.520 But what I'm saying is like, who's gonna actually take 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:04.040 that serious? 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:06.560 Like, like there was a political message in a porn 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:11.479 right now, Who's gonna take that seriously? But I think 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:17.000 they were exposing her actions, exposing to the lady. Wasn't 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:19.840 a conspiracy that they were exposing her for things that 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:23.080 she had done in porno fashion, So they wasn't making 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:25.639 a statement per se. They were just putting her on 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:28.520 fun street, like you've done these terrible things, right to 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:32.240 then what to get prosecuted? So that's what I'm saying, Like, 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:34.359 what public backlash? Yeah, make it known. 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:36.840 That's why they spliced it into the film where everybody 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:37.439 was watching it. 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:40.840 I mean again, so you say public backlash, like, who's watching? Like, 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:44.160 what if nobody watches porn? Like they cut it into 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:47.200 a bigger film. Was they always gonna do that? I didn't. 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:49.439 I think we're starting off with the wrong question. What 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:53.399 do you mean what if no one watches porn? Everyone? 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:57.119 Millions and millions of people watch porn. What I'm saying 0:19:57.160 --> 0:19:58.679 is that who's gonna be like, oh, yeah, I was 0:19:58.680 --> 0:20:01.200 watching this porno and I saw it she did these 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:02.120 horrible things. 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:06.080 I mean, real talk. I think it absolutely makes the 0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:09.200 most sense. I thought at first, if you're gonna stick 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:14.320 a political message in something that you want widespread. Porn 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:22.960 is widespread, and no one's gonna go wow, I did 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:29.200 say it, but no one's gonna go tell their friend like, oh, 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:32.200 I heard that this politician was doing some wild ship 0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:34.280 and I got from a porn They're just gonna say 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:36.919 I heard some wild ship, this politician is doing X, 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:37.320 Y and Z. 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:40.400 I don't know. I don't know. 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:42.040 But it's also the kind of movie where I don't, 0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:43.960 you know, I don't know that we should really be like, well, 0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:45.320 that doesn't really make a lot of sense. 0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:47.320 Well, it's just they they put it in the movie, 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:47.920 you know what I'm saying. 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:50.920 So I'm just trying to trying to accept what they're 0:20:50.960 --> 0:20:52.160 trying to try to get. 0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:52.720