Speaker 1: The Frames per Second Podcast. Welcome everybody to the Frames
Speaker 1: per Second Podcast. Kenneth be And chaired with Rod, Mike
Speaker 1: and Spike whatever you. Patreon voted ten anniversary of the
Speaker 1: Nice Guys. So we're to give a quick conversation about it.
Speaker 1: It's a twenty sixteen American neo noir buddy actually comedy
Speaker 1: film directed by Shane Black who corrupted the screenplay with
Speaker 1: Anthony Bacadozi, produced by Joel Silver, has Russell Crow, Ron
Speaker 1: Goslin in it, and Kim Baseger, Margaret Qually, Keith David
Speaker 1: and some other folks. So Shane Black, Let's see what
Speaker 1: does Shane Black do? Leath the weapon? Oh leath the weapon?
Speaker 1: Last Boy, Scout Long, Kiss, good Night, Kis Kiss, Main Bang,
Speaker 1: Iron Man three, and I guess a new version of
Speaker 1: the Predator twenty eighteen Predator.
Speaker 2: Have you guys ever? Have you guys ever watched this
Speaker 2: movie before this?
Speaker 3: First time I heard about this movie, I saw it.
Speaker 3: It just looked like it wouldn't wouldn't be good to me.
Speaker 3: When I saw it, I didn't have any desire to
Speaker 3: go to the movies and see it, and I didn't
Speaker 3: have any desire if I saw it streaming somewhere.
Speaker 2: What about you, Mike, never heard of it, had no
Speaker 2: desire to watch it.
Speaker 1: Yeah I haven't. Yeah, I'm in the same boat as
Speaker 1: you all. I don't remember seeing the trailer or the
Speaker 1: post or anything. As a matter of fact, I was
Speaker 1: talking to Rod last night. I thought we were doing
Speaker 1: an animation movie, but it was the bad guys. Not
Speaker 1: I've seen bad guys with that shit, you know, but
Speaker 1: nice guys not so much.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen this before, but.
Speaker 3: When it came out, yeah I do, because I was like,
Speaker 3: why is Russell Crew and what's the other girl name
Speaker 3: guys playing in a movie like this. I just didn't
Speaker 3: want to see them in those type of roles. So yeah,
Speaker 3: just I just never had any of desirests to see this.
Speaker 2: How'd you feel like if you watched it?
Speaker 3: Pretty much the same? Like I didn't miss anything, you know,
Speaker 3: like it was okay, But that's it. Like it's not
Speaker 3: something I would recommend to anybody, like, oh man, you
Speaker 3: got to see this, this Russell Crow. It's more it's
Speaker 3: other Russle Crow films I'll tell people to go watch.
Speaker 3: It's other Ryan Goslin films that I would tell people
Speaker 3: to go watch. This is not one of them. But
Speaker 3: I mean it was okay. It wasn't like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: he like, it was just it was just okay.
Speaker 2: It was just okay. And my expectations were very low.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know what it was until I typed
Speaker 1: in and to watch it like last night, which is
Speaker 1: uh yeah.
Speaker 2: Really like. I didn't finish this until like twelve something.
Speaker 1: And I was looking into it, and interesting enough, apparently
Speaker 1: it's developed a cult following over the years.
Speaker 2: I don't know that either.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I just found out that out. But uh, well,
Speaker 1: what about you run a Spike and Mike.
Speaker 3: I can be quick. I didn't like any of this.
Speaker 3: I didn't like a single minute of this. This was
Speaker 3: fucking stupid. I don't know why this has a cult following.
Speaker 3: I didn't laugh a single time. This was ridiculous. I
Speaker 3: don't get the point. Yeah, and why is it two hours?
Speaker 3: It's just why was this even voted on?
Speaker 1: I think because of the cult following. I think that
Speaker 1: that's what I was trying to figure out, the same thing.
Speaker 1: Somebody nominated and I think, yeah, Patreon voted for it,
Speaker 1: But I think because of the cult following.
Speaker 2: When I saw that they had a cult following.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, oh, that's probably why they ended
Speaker 1: up voting for it, But how do you feel.
Speaker 2: About his spike? I could see why I got a
Speaker 2: cold following.
Speaker 4: It's like one of those little fringe movies that not
Speaker 4: a lot of people know about, but if you know
Speaker 4: about it, you love it, like Pineapple Express or some
Speaker 4: shit like that. But I didn't hate it. I thought
Speaker 4: Russell Crowe did a good job. I liked the I
Speaker 4: like the dialogue one than anything. I felt like they
Speaker 4: were snarky and it was smart, but the story really
Speaker 4: was whatever I'm the new or part of it was cool.
Speaker 4: Ryan Goshmin did a good job. So the acting was good,
Speaker 4: but it was just a mid level story with good
Speaker 4: actors in it. And then the theme of it like
Speaker 4: carried it M.
Speaker 2: Four for four man. Uh I When this was over,
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, what you know? And I like comedy.
Speaker 1: I like comedy, but I was I was with you, Mike, like,
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't laugh at anything, you know. I thought,
Speaker 1: I said, well, maybe it's just because you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's late and I'm.
Speaker 2: Tired, But nah, that I don't think that was it.
Speaker 1: I'm normally I'm always up late, you know, So I
Speaker 1: don't think that was it, even though I had a
Speaker 1: super busy day yesterday. But nevertheless, I don't think that
Speaker 1: impacted I just think it resonated with me at all.
Speaker 1: I think the beginning of it when they were introducing
Speaker 1: all the characters and stuff, with Healey, who's played by
Speaker 1: Russell Crowe and mister March played by Ryan Gosling, which
Speaker 1: I know he looks weird with that little mustache he
Speaker 1: got on or whatever.
Speaker 2: And I know it's the seventies, but seventy seven to
Speaker 2: be a zach because.
Speaker 1: We heard the earth Wind and Fire some other tunes
Speaker 1: playing in the background. But yeah, I didn't find the
Speaker 1: story particularly interesting. You're two guys that started out as
Speaker 1: enemies that came together as friends to look for this girl,
Speaker 1: which is pretty much the premise of what it was.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, and then.
Speaker 1: In the mists of all that are these jokes and
Speaker 1: weird sort of things that happened throughout the whole movie.
Speaker 1: So an hour and fifty five minutes, it's insane for me.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so Holland, not Healey, Holland, Yeah, Hollo March,
Speaker 1: my bad, my hollow March and Jackie Lee. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: did you guys got to think about the chemistry. You
Speaker 1: gotta like the chemistry of Russell Crowe, and it was fine.
Speaker 3: I think for me, I just would have wanted chemistry
Speaker 3: in a different way, not in a movie like this
Speaker 3: when you got two actors like that. So I never,
Speaker 3: I never it kind of like what Spike was saying,
Speaker 3: it was okay, dialogue was fine, you know, but I
Speaker 3: guess chemistry was fine too. But it's just I would
Speaker 3: have rather chemistry and something else. Yeah, this was kind
Speaker 3: of goofy for them. We ain't used to seeing them goofy.
Speaker 3: This is kind of like little goofy. That's what I
Speaker 3: was surprised when he was reading the other movies that
Speaker 3: he did. None of them really have that type of
Speaker 3: back and forth the dialogue or whatever it may be.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: I thought the daughter did a good job Ryan Gosien's daughter.
Speaker 4: I think she did a good job in the movie
Speaker 4: relevant though they forced her in there, which is why
Speaker 4: I feel like she was playing behind the eight ball.
Speaker 4: But she she didn't suck like child actors usually do.
Speaker 4: And uh, I thought I liked how she played that role,
Speaker 4: like dead paying kind of serious, but she was still
Speaker 4: a child. Did you think did you feel like she
Speaker 4: was irrelevant?
Speaker 2: Marke? I don't think that's what I'm saying, So she
Speaker 2: definitely wasn't irrelevant. She just he's a terrible father. I'll
Speaker 2: say that, you know what I mean? The Little Girl actor.
Speaker 5: I meant to look her up after we were done,
Speaker 5: after I was done watching it, to see what else
Speaker 5: she's been in, because I'm pretty sure i've seen her before.
Speaker 2: She was good. Yeah, she was good. It's just I
Speaker 2: agree with Rod.
Speaker 5: The chemistry between Russell Crowe and Ryan Gosling. It was
Speaker 5: just like, yeah, y'all have good chemistry, but this story
Speaker 5: is stupid, so I don't care. And I thought it
Speaker 5: was gonna be good. When you started off with fucking
Speaker 5: a nice you know said that titties just dead.
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, we got dead titties. I might
Speaker 2: like this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I guess when I'm in irrelevant. It's just
Speaker 3: that I didn't think she was necessary. Yeah, she saw
Speaker 3: the case, but I think they made made it that way.
Speaker 3: This movie could have been totally fine in my opinion
Speaker 3: without her, Like why do we need her? You got
Speaker 3: a movie with Russell Crowe and Ryan Gosling and you
Speaker 3: still added this.
Speaker 4: I think it was to show how Ryan Gosley as
Speaker 4: a father was rubbing off on her, like she picked
Speaker 4: up his investigative skills. But it also was showing because
Speaker 4: he's that way, he can't properly raise her.
Speaker 2: Why do you need that in the story. I guess
Speaker 2: this is what I was to add character depth.
Speaker 3: So it's not just here's a goofy cop and another
Speaker 3: goofy cop and they're trying to solve a goofy case.
Speaker 3: They're trying to make Ryan Gosling more human by giving
Speaker 3: him something to care about, because without her, what's the motivation. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I feel like, just real quick, I feel like, sure
Speaker 3: you could do I think it's different. I think it's
Speaker 3: other ways you can do that, Because anytime she was inserted,
Speaker 3: I was just like it threw me off, like why
Speaker 3: is she in the middle of this this porn industry
Speaker 3: party or why she at this shootout?
Speaker 2: Like it's just like.
Speaker 3: Like, why do we have this little girl here? I
Speaker 3: can't it disconnected me? I guess is what because it
Speaker 3: doesn't seem believable to me? Well, yeah, well nothing in
Speaker 3: this movie is believable. If this was a serious film,
Speaker 3: then yeah, it would.
Speaker 2: I would.
Speaker 5: I'd be with you if the tone of the movie
Speaker 5: was very much like this is too serious, if this
Speaker 5: is the Wire and this was happening with some little
Speaker 5: white girl, I'd be like, Okay, this doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: This is silly. What the fuck are y'all doing?
Speaker 5: But since the vibe is very three Company, not the
Speaker 5: Bee's Company's Larry Moow and Curly.
Speaker 2: H three Stooges.
Speaker 3: Since the vibe is very much three Stooges, it's like, Okay,
Speaker 3: of course, yeah, throw a little girl into a porn
Speaker 3: star party, because now we can make the joke of
Speaker 3: why is this girl at the porn star party? Yes,
Speaker 3: of course, throw the little girl in the middle of
Speaker 3: a shootout, because then we can say, hey, guys, isn't
Speaker 3: it wacky if there's a little girl with the shootout?
Speaker 2: Hey? Yeah? For me, that that was Yeah. I'm not
Speaker 2: saying it worked well, it didn't.
Speaker 5: It was just it was added to that this is
Speaker 5: dumb to me, but that's what they were going for.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I liked her in this.
Speaker 1: I think it did a you know, kind of what
Speaker 1: Michael saying earlier did really show how how bad he
Speaker 1: was just at everything, you know, And I mean we
Speaker 1: were introduced to him, you know, in a tub in
Speaker 1: a full suit forgetting her birthday, and her writing on
Speaker 1: his hand you'll.
Speaker 2: Never be happy. Oh she wrote that. Yeah, I think
Speaker 2: she wrote that. I think she wrote it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So, and you know, it felt like she
Speaker 1: was a way to kind of offset like, you know,
Speaker 1: their mishaps and their fuck ups and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: It's great to sort of a recentery of everything, is
Speaker 1: what I felt, because.
Speaker 2: When I was like, why the hell is she driving
Speaker 2: a car?
Speaker 1: But of course he broke his hand and he he
Speaker 1: still needed to solve the case. And then you know,
Speaker 1: I think they kind of show that heally, he was
Speaker 1: kind of supposed to be this good guy. You know,
Speaker 1: when we were introduced to him, he's punching out a PDF.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: So and then we introduced to mister March and he's,
Speaker 1: you know, like, yeah, he's a fuck up. And then uh,
Speaker 1: he's looking for Amelia, and then Amelia hires him to
Speaker 1: scare mister March, and that's how they first started interacting.
Speaker 1: But in that particular scene when we first see Amelia,
Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, you're seven dollars short. So you know,
Speaker 1: so it's just like, you know, he's he's a good guy,
Speaker 1: but it's probably while she was trying to give him
Speaker 1: that sob story. But he's also like, uh, has tendencies
Speaker 1: to I don't know if that's being bad or whatever,
Speaker 1: but he didn't get her.
Speaker 4: He jipped that old lady. Who the old lady that
Speaker 4: was looking for her husband that was dead.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, I'm talking about I'm talking about
Speaker 2: Ussell Croz.
Speaker 1: Oh I thought the other one. Oh yeah, yeah, mister yeah,
Speaker 1: mister March. March is absolutely a piece of Yeah. But
Speaker 1: oh god, yeah, come on, Spike, like she deserved that,
Speaker 1: like she deserves when.
Speaker 2: This sister funeral, she deserves. Yeah, you wouldn't take that money?
Speaker 4: Yeah I would. I definite would have take that money.
Speaker 4: How long you would have taken?
Speaker 3: No, I'm not ripping off some old lady. They want
Speaker 3: to get into heaven? Yeah, definitely if it exists, I
Speaker 3: want to get there. I would have told her, like, man,
Speaker 3: your husband is dead. How is that worse than taking
Speaker 3: that money?
Speaker 5: You got to deal with her, like, so, what do
Speaker 5: you think is gonna happen when the case ends?
Speaker 2: We couldn't find him? Oh, that is a good I
Speaker 2: don't even think about that. We couldn't find him kid
Speaker 2: on no where he went to man.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I couldn't have got him on the on the
Speaker 3: on the man foid in a in a blue Clearly
Speaker 3: somebody has told that old woman that her husband is dead.
Speaker 3: She's just ignoring.
Speaker 1: That.
Speaker 2: Would I taking that she had the venture? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But you know again, he's just he's just he's a
Speaker 1: terrible guy. Uh did you don't? I didn't laugh.
Speaker 2: But the scream that he had when he broke his
Speaker 2: own bro, I did not expect him. I haven't seen that.
Speaker 2: People do think that part was funny, Like what in
Speaker 2: the hell?
Speaker 3: I wonder if that was improvised because that was a
Speaker 3: bitch ass scream.
Speaker 1: He let a couple of like shrills throughout this whole
Speaker 1: thing like that, and this whole ship and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So maybe maybe that's why he added to the character
Speaker 1: or whatever, you know. I don't know, but yeah, so
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's that, you know. So that was our
Speaker 1: first introduction to them. And then later on Healey is
Speaker 1: confronted by Keith Davis character older guys what he's called
Speaker 1: the movie in blue face because of the the.
Speaker 2: Ink inc that verse it was an ink ball of
Speaker 2: was okay, yeah, from a bank robbery or something, I assume.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So they went to kind of try to press
Speaker 1: on him to give up Amelia.
Speaker 2: And he would not.
Speaker 1: Now remember the earlier scene when he was asking March
Speaker 1: about who his client was, he gave that up immediately.
Speaker 1: He was like, dang, you just gave all your client
Speaker 1: just like that, but he wouldn't so again, showing.
Speaker 2: Like the difference between the two. But he got out of.
Speaker 1: It, and then he goes to hire March to solve
Speaker 1: the case. And then in this particular scene, that's when
Speaker 1: they said, yeah, I heard you're actually pretty good at
Speaker 1: what you do, so which is why I'm hiring And
Speaker 1: now they're working together. And from there that's pretty much
Speaker 1: the rest of the movie. So I guess them kind
Speaker 1: of setting all of that up. Did you guys like
Speaker 1: how we went from character introduction to character the characters
Speaker 1: meeting and bumping has and and the disagreement to working together.
Speaker 2: I think that what did it for me was just
Speaker 2: the dialogue.
Speaker 4: It was good dialogue, Like the story was still weak
Speaker 4: and what they was trying to do the setup was weak,
Speaker 4: I feel like, but I feel like the actors were
Speaker 4: so good and the little snappy comebacks and back and
Speaker 4: forth with other people and with each other that I
Speaker 4: was interested at least.
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, what about your like set up pretty
Speaker 6: much the rest of the movie with these two characters,
Speaker 6: It's okay.
Speaker 3: I mean, I just think the plot was kind of weak.
Speaker 3: We're not kind of it was weak, and that the
Speaker 3: weak plot, it's gonna ultimately just be a weak movie.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think the actors were fine, but the
Speaker 3: plot just wasn't strong enough for me. A lot of
Speaker 3: times I felt kind of lost in it.
Speaker 1: It's just like, Okay, what's the point I stealing? Kind
Speaker 1: of lost on the full story of what was happening, honestly,
Speaker 1: you know, uh, you know, I think they went to
Speaker 1: find this guy chat and there was some protesters out there, Mike,
Speaker 1: if you ever done a protest like that?
Speaker 2: Who were they in front of? Yes?
Speaker 5: No, laid on the ground and pretended I was dead. No,
Speaker 5: I've laid on the ground and like a human they
Speaker 5: call it like a human chain so the cops can't
Speaker 5: move you. But I've never just been like, oh, I'm
Speaker 5: not talking to you because I'm dead. I was at
Speaker 5: a protests where someone put on like a bloody fur
Speaker 5: coat and acted like they were dead the whole time,
Speaker 5: and I was like, please get up.
Speaker 2: This is stupid. You're not changing anyone's mind. They see
Speaker 2: that you're a human, dumb.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, so yeah, so Chat was yeah, so they
Speaker 1: found Chat who took them to like the burnt down
Speaker 1: house of Amelia's boyfriend Dean, which lead them to go
Speaker 1: on to this porno party. I guess of Sid Shatock
Speaker 1: and that they were working on some experimental film, working
Speaker 1: with Misty on experimental film combining pornography and investigative journalists spikers.
Speaker 2: That's something you will watch. No, that's something he's seen.
Speaker 4: I probably have no, No, not really, that didn't sound interesting.
Speaker 4: I thought it was funny, the whole interaction at the
Speaker 4: house when they got there and it was burned down,
Speaker 4: and then the dude was riding by. He's like, he'll
Speaker 4: give you twenty dollars if you talked to him, a
Speaker 4: little dude on the bike. So I thought that part
Speaker 4: was funny. But nah, I wasn't interested in the investigative
Speaker 4: journal documentary.
Speaker 3: I guess my thing was like, who's gonna who's gonna
Speaker 3: necessarily take that seriously? Like seeing a political statement in
Speaker 3: a porn video?
Speaker 2: I think because then they do that with like was
Speaker 2: it Sarah Palin? Sarah Palin? Well, they were depicting Sarah
Speaker 2: Palin like she became.
Speaker 3: Like this thisslike character character that people put on a
Speaker 3: wig and act like they were her porn ladies. That
Speaker 3: was everything. Yeah, politician, yeah, popular politician and different things.
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is like, who's gonna actually take
Speaker 2: that serious?
Speaker 3: Like, like there was a political message in a porn
Speaker 3: right now, Who's gonna take that seriously? But I think
Speaker 3: they were exposing her actions, exposing to the lady. Wasn't
Speaker 3: a conspiracy that they were exposing her for things that
Speaker 3: she had done in porno fashion, So they wasn't making
Speaker 3: a statement per se. They were just putting her on
Speaker 3: fun street, like you've done these terrible things, right to
Speaker 3: then what to get prosecuted? So that's what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 3: what public backlash? Yeah, make it known.
Speaker 4: That's why they spliced it into the film where everybody
Speaker 4: was watching it.
Speaker 3: I mean again, so you say public backlash, like, who's watching? Like,
Speaker 3: what if nobody watches porn? Like they cut it into
Speaker 3: a bigger film. Was they always gonna do that? I didn't.
Speaker 3: I think we're starting off with the wrong question. What
Speaker 3: do you mean what if no one watches porn? Everyone?
Speaker 3: Millions and millions of people watch porn. What I'm saying
Speaker 3: is that who's gonna be like, oh, yeah, I was
Speaker 3: watching this porno and I saw it she did these
Speaker 3: horrible things.
Speaker 5: I mean, real talk. I think it absolutely makes the
Speaker 5: most sense. I thought at first, if you're gonna stick
Speaker 5: a political message in something that you want widespread. Porn
Speaker 5: is widespread, and no one's gonna go wow, I did
Speaker 5: say it, but no one's gonna go tell their friend like, oh,
Speaker 5: I heard that this politician was doing some wild ship
Speaker 5: and I got from a porn They're just gonna say
Speaker 5: I heard some wild ship, this politician is doing X,
Speaker 5: Y and Z.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 5: But it's also the kind of movie where I don't,
Speaker 5: you know, I don't know that we should really be like, well,
Speaker 5: that doesn't really make a lot of sense.
Speaker 2: Well, it's just they they put it in the movie,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So I'm just trying to trying to accept what they're
Speaker 3: trying to try to get.
Speaker 2: They weren't.
Speaker 4: They weren't forcing it all people. If I'm not mistaken, though,
Speaker 4: they cut it into a regular film, so all the
Speaker 4: regular people that was going to be the people wanted
Speaker 4: to kill people.
Speaker 2: Wanted to kill them because they wanted to get rid
Speaker 2: of this thing. Yeah. So my thing is like, is
Speaker 2: somebody going to watch porn.
Speaker 3: That's not what they're going to watch porn for, right,
Speaker 3: They're going to watch porn for pleasure or whatever the
Speaker 3: case is.
Speaker 2: That that's it.
Speaker 3: After that, you think they're really going to be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know, I just don't.
Speaker 2: It just that just was disconnected from me.
Speaker 3: I think they will, really, I think there are some
Speaker 3: weirdos that watch porn because they like porn, but they
Speaker 3: also like to watch the story.
Speaker 5: Because if that was the case, they wouldn't even put
Speaker 5: a story in there. It would just be like, here's
Speaker 5: these two people and they're fucking within two minutes.
Speaker 3: Whether think they're just trying to create a fantasy like
Speaker 3: a plumber or coming to a crib or some shit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but they would make that quick. There's fucking Game
Speaker 5: of Thrones. Porn're breaking bad, But why not act like
Speaker 5: y'all never saw this shit? Aund y'all know what you know?
Speaker 3: There's any kind of porn that you can think of,
Speaker 3: It exists, any kind different ros anyway, right right right,
Speaker 3: Spike wanted to say, pause so quick, you know.
Speaker 2: What you talking about? Willis right?
Speaker 1: But but yeah, they uh so they end up going
Speaker 1: to this uh Parno party or whatever.
Speaker 2: Mister d mister right there anyway, sorry, go.
Speaker 1: Ahead, Yeah with Sid shot uh again a terrible father.
Speaker 1: She was like, yeah, it's all kind of horrors and
Speaker 1: stuff here. He was like, whaty not many times I
Speaker 1: told you don't say, and.
Speaker 2: That was that was that was a funny life. I
Speaker 2: didn't laugh at live, but it was a funny live.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny when she used to get yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I did like that. But how does she get back
Speaker 1: in the house.
Speaker 4: This put her in the cave, right mm hmmm, yeah,
Speaker 4: but she just got out.
Speaker 3: She probably to release something or she talked the guy
Speaker 3: into turning round, like, oh, I forgot my keys, you
Speaker 3: have to go back.
Speaker 2: The little girl was smart, Yeah, she was really smart. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she was smart.
Speaker 1: She realized she got in the car with that Blue Face,
Speaker 1: was like, I need to get out of there. But
Speaker 1: she was stupid to even get in the car in
Speaker 1: the first place.
Speaker 2: You know. She running around asks for Amelia.
Speaker 1: This food, mister March playing on Cops and Robbers on
Speaker 1: the damn you know, a porch and falls off and
Speaker 1: finds said Shatton dead and then it leads it to
Speaker 1: this big chase you know, where Amelia pops up and
Speaker 1: uh it's like Rond a million or whatever. But and
Speaker 1: he ends up killing Blue Face, uh anything.
Speaker 2: All right? All right?
Speaker 1: Uh so they some of I found that Amelia's mother
Speaker 1: is the one, uh uh that hired.
Speaker 2: Everybody to to find her.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, Judith Cuttner, who's an official with the Justice Department,
Speaker 1: and she basically telling her the millions out of her mind,
Speaker 1: she kind of crazy, and that she wants to hire them. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: she wants to hire them to find her. Now, we
Speaker 1: didn't know she was behind everything at the time, again
Speaker 1: showing how March is crazy because she was going to
Speaker 1: pay ten thousand, like he did something like you.
Speaker 2: I felt that. I was like, damn, oh you did.
Speaker 2: I was like, she tore it up and then.
Speaker 4: You didn't think at that moment she did it. I
Speaker 4: think that was obvious you did. Once she started saying
Speaker 4: she was crazy and the conspiracy.
Speaker 2: He was like, she did that? Ship? This the I
Speaker 2: don't know, this was the It didn't seem genuine daughter
Speaker 2: to kill your own daughter.
Speaker 4: It seemed like she was looking for to to capture her,
Speaker 4: not she loved her and wanted her back.
Speaker 2: So did she actually get pay to get her killed?
Speaker 2: That's what I took from I don't think so. I
Speaker 2: thought it was the Yeah, I thought the mam was
Speaker 2: behind at all. Yeah, she wasn't prosecuted anything, but she's
Speaker 2: the head of the Justice.
Speaker 3: Boy, what I'm saying, but like you could be ahead
Speaker 3: of something and then somebody like, well, you know this
Speaker 3: person did this.
Speaker 2: And I thought that they implied it was her.
Speaker 3: I think so, not in every situation, obviously. Now I'm
Speaker 3: just saying not in every but typically you should, yeah,
Speaker 3: you should, like people have to step down from their
Speaker 3: positions all the time.
Speaker 2: Of corporations.
Speaker 5: Because she's the corrupt head of the Justice Department, I
Speaker 5: can see why that that would absolutely make sense that
Speaker 5: she wouldn't have to pay any consequences.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think you know her her daughter being
Speaker 1: in this experimental porno film. I think you know, it
Speaker 1: was kind of a thing that was lingering with her too.
Speaker 1: I thought she was trying to hide that. That's what
Speaker 1: I thought.
Speaker 3: I thought she's like, this is a sensitive case because
Speaker 3: of that, and I'm.
Speaker 2: In this position. That's what I was thinking, and I
Speaker 2: don't want anybody to see my daughter doing this stuff.
Speaker 3: I think I thought that's what it was kind of
Speaker 3: like on some.
Speaker 2: Some body, and ship is that not what it was?
Speaker 2: Was something different?
Speaker 3: Well, he's saying that he had her killed, Like that's
Speaker 3: that's going like to extream. I thought she was just
Speaker 3: trying to have it covered up so nobody could see it.
Speaker 2: Well, that's a good way to have it covered up.
Speaker 2: It's killer.
Speaker 4: Well, just get rid of the footage because she she
Speaker 4: was gonna tell somebody else if she didn't get That's
Speaker 4: why I feel.
Speaker 2: Like she wanted her kill. I feel like want to
Speaker 2: get exposed. I feel like the mom wanted the footage deleted.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So basically Amelia was was trying to expose her
Speaker 1: mom for covering up the small thing with the Cadillac converters.
Speaker 1: Because remember early in the beginning, when it was first
Speaker 1: introduced to March, the guy was on the television being
Speaker 1: interviewed and Perk whatever his name was, and then that
Speaker 1: the interviewer asked him about like the sort of collusion
Speaker 1: thing he was involved with. So it was a story
Speaker 1: that was kind of out and bubbling, and Amelia wanted
Speaker 1: to expose created the film to expose that collusion, and
Speaker 1: she believes her mother had been killing everyone connected to
Speaker 1: the film, but.
Speaker 2: March and Heally didn't believe him.
Speaker 1: This was after they found Amelia because she jumped on
Speaker 1: top of the car after they went to some hotel
Speaker 1: and rolled up and somebody was in there killing everybody
Speaker 1: at the hotel, which they looked out, and then they
Speaker 1: rode right back down the elevator and then she popped
Speaker 1: on the scene, shot him in the NFL and passed out,
Speaker 1: and they brought her back to the house.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. There was too many like convenient
Speaker 2: moments in her for me.
Speaker 1: And then the black lady called and said Tally was
Speaker 1: the name Tally? I think it was a name Tally called.
Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, you know, Judas said, somebody's demanding
Speaker 1: one hundred K? Can't you come pick it up? That
Speaker 1: was the getting that, you know. They were like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we found Amelia. That was a getting out the house
Speaker 1: for John Boy to show up, who was supposed to
Speaker 1: be the doctor, and they went there.
Speaker 2: The money was fake.
Speaker 1: He fell asleep driving and that's how they found out
Speaker 1: the money was fake and they realized that, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we've been had.
Speaker 2: So we went back to the house and then there
Speaker 2: was a shootout.
Speaker 1: Y'all like to shoot out between who John Boy?
Speaker 2: I mean, do I like to shoot out? I mean
Speaker 2: John Boy was loose, bro.
Speaker 3: He was I was like, he bought some big ship,
Speaker 3: so yeah, big ship, but didn't hit nothing.
Speaker 2: There's just a bunch of shooting and he just left
Speaker 2: without doing that, right, but.
Speaker 1: The police were on the way, so that's why he
Speaker 1: had the league. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The part for me is when he threw that girl.
Speaker 3: Like was that was I was like, god damn. But
Speaker 3: did he say it was like you like, did you
Speaker 3: hear that? He said, yeah, girl, that was the coldest
Speaker 3: ship for me. That was colding it and shooting and he.
Speaker 2: Just whipped the gun out his That was was Oh, man,
Speaker 2: believe you did that. I could the window. She was
Speaker 2: down for the count.
Speaker 1: Yeah, mm hmm, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with you, like,
Speaker 1: because there were a couple of times. I mean, he
Speaker 1: has an automatic weapon, bru, and.
Speaker 2: He should have hit something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he should have at least hit uh March because
Speaker 1: he wasn't even ducking down across.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I don't know. It's but it's movies, you know.
Speaker 1: I think what got me and what really kind of
Speaker 1: confused me was when Amelia, refusing to listen, got up,
Speaker 1: left ran and he's driving down the car and uh
Speaker 1: and she was like, hey, I need help, Mike eyes
Speaker 1: that they actually killed Amelia off.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I didn't expect that me either.
Speaker 5: Yeah, when when he shot her through the window, I
Speaker 5: was like, oh, she's probably not dead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's point blank. Who do you say? What
Speaker 2: did he say? Wow? Something like that, like I can't
Speaker 2: believe my luck. Yeah, yeah, it was funny. Yeah, all
Speaker 2: that ship right just smashed stuff. That was crazy. I
Speaker 2: was not expecting that either.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and all this happened, by the way, I guess
Speaker 1: I want to ask real quick, because we're basically near
Speaker 1: the end of the film.
Speaker 2: Was he the world's worst detective? As his daughter said, No, no,
Speaker 2: because he figured it out.
Speaker 1: He got the west, he got the hotel ship wrong.
Speaker 1: He just stumbled onto it, he said, Tampa with greatness. Sometimes.
Speaker 2: No, he was fine. He just drank too much exactly,
Speaker 2: That's what that's my point. Well, yeah, he did figure
Speaker 2: out that.
Speaker 1: The lady that hired him initially saw that she was
Speaker 1: watching the film found it and that's what we was like,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're great at the tenth huh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that part was actually pretty cool because I was
Speaker 5: not expecting that. But she kept saying I saw my
Speaker 5: daughter through the window, and he figured out, like, yeah,
Speaker 5: someone was in here watching a movie, you know, on
Speaker 5: the projector.
Speaker 2: That was that was pretty cool. It was that was clever. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: because you had they had you doubt.
Speaker 5: For a minute, like, wait, is the big breasted woman
Speaker 5: just is she alive somewhere?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 5: I still don't know that they really explained or maybe
Speaker 5: they did not, just didn't pay attention what actually happened
Speaker 5: to her, because like, was she fucking in the car
Speaker 5: and they why was she out butt naked?
Speaker 3: I don't know, didn't they never explain. I think it
Speaker 3: was just some mob ship. I think they probably just
Speaker 3: put her in the vehicle and drove it down off
Speaker 3: of heel.
Speaker 2: They put in their vehicle with no with no shirt on. Yeah,
Speaker 2: to make any that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Misty was the one that was that was a
Speaker 1: mister does bro. You were close, Yeah, yeah, jesus. So anyway,
Speaker 1: at the end of the movie, so now I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, I don't really so she's dead.
Speaker 2: They were trying what are we doing here?
Speaker 1: So then you have they were showing the movie at
Speaker 1: this Las Vegas show and then you have another shootout.
Speaker 1: Older guy and heal were fighting again no no march
Speaker 1: and he fell off the balcony and he fell in
Speaker 1: the pool, and yeah.
Speaker 2: The end left a lot to be desired.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I was like, that's it. Like he
Speaker 1: just gets the roll of film and it's so, well, then.
Speaker 4: What happened to the mom? Did they ever show that?
Speaker 4: They never show anything happened to the mom. We talked
Speaker 4: about her because it happened to the mom.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the cop fire, but they were one side of
Speaker 3: the chairs and she was on the other side of
Speaker 3: the chair.
Speaker 2: Also, she did get arrested.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was saying that it was Detroit that wanted
Speaker 1: Amelia dad, not her. So maybe that kind of clears
Speaker 1: up whether or not she wanted to kill her daughter
Speaker 1: or not.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. I don't think she wanted to
Speaker 3: kill her daughter. I think that it was just two
Speaker 3: things happening.
Speaker 1: But she lying though, because she said she hired Marching
Speaker 1: he Ley to keep her safe.
Speaker 2: She sent the doctor over there, right John to the house.
Speaker 1: She said, Yeah, unless Tally was unless the black girl
Speaker 1: was lying, talent was lying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, didn't the mom didn't. They didn't they tell
Speaker 4: her they found the girl. And the mom was like,
Speaker 4: I'm going to send the family doctor.
Speaker 2: That's what I thought.
Speaker 1: That's what the talent, that's what Tally. But we didn't
Speaker 1: hear it directly from the morning. So the assistant could
Speaker 1: have been lying the whole time. They just weren't clear.
Speaker 1: But I still think the mom was behind it. To
Speaker 1: I don't think them and they, Yeah.
Speaker 5: I forgot Tally was an actress. Y'all probably watched America's
Speaker 5: Next Top Model. Yeah that was yeah, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 5: totally forgot she was in the movies. She's good and
Speaker 5: she was good this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm getting this wrong. She's she's not the one
Speaker 3: in the Marble? Is it in the mone and what
Speaker 3: mar No that's male, yeah, y'all, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: not mister Marvel. But she plays the black who's the
Speaker 3: black girl that plays in Missus Marvel?
Speaker 2: She was in the You talk about Monica Rambo, that's
Speaker 2: definitely not Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't even look alike as racist as hell,
Speaker 3: I said, I started, I started.
Speaker 2: I'm thank god they ain't Asian. They look like they
Speaker 2: don't many. I don't think it's closed. One was darker,
Speaker 2: this was skinny, and one, yeah, one super skinny. You
Speaker 2: look at the pictures. Monica Rambo is not skinny.
Speaker 3: It was Monica Rambo to who's the who's the actress?
Speaker 2: But anyway, yeah, so that that's it.
Speaker 1: Patreon, Uh I really want to know why you guys
Speaker 1: voted for this one. I'm kind of curious to see.
Speaker 1: I didn't particularly care for it. I don't think I
Speaker 1: missed anything by not having ever watched the film.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I want to know what the
Speaker 2: cult is. Why is there a cult felling for this movie? Why? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2: But anyway, any other final thoughts, Hell, y'all can have
Speaker 2: this ship. It should be like a rating system or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway, man, We'll leave it there.
Speaker 2: Man, We'll gotch you guys. Next time. We got peace