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Speaker 1: Good morning, It is ninety three WIBC. My name is Casey.

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Speaker 1: That is Jim and joining us on the WIBC hotline

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Speaker 1: from Indiana Capitol Chronicle. Nicki Kelly, reporter extraordinaire today. Nikki,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about this judge ordering counties to hold absentee

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Speaker 1: ballots in the Indiana Senate primary.

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Speaker 2: Can you give us a little background on this story.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really kind of crazy. So it's one of

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Speaker 3: these Senate races where Senator Greg Good voted against Redistrictane

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Speaker 3: and Donald Trump and Governor Mike bron came out and said,

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Speaker 3: you know, we want to kick these people out who

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Speaker 3: didn't go along. So they endorse a woman named Brenda Wilson,

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Speaker 3: a county council woman there to beat, you know, to

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Speaker 3: go against Greg Good. And then another woman came along

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Speaker 3: and filed and her name is Alexandra Wilson. So basically,

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Speaker 3: the Brenda Wilson people are worried that Alexandra Wilson is

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Speaker 3: going to take enough votes that they'll split and then

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Speaker 3: Greg Good will retain his seat. So they tried to

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Speaker 3: get kick her off the ballot based on a criminal

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Speaker 3: conviction when she was nineteen. They believe it's a felony.

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Speaker 3: It was a resisting law enforcement, she says, and her

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Speaker 3: lawyers say, no, I mean I was charged with a felony,

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Speaker 3: but when I pled it was to a misdemeanor level.

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Speaker 3: You know, you can plead down. So the election commission tied.

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Speaker 3: It was a tutu vote, which meant she remain on

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Speaker 3: the ballot. So now we're in this court case where

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Speaker 3: now Brenda Wilson's attorneys, Jim Bopp, very well known and

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Speaker 3: a you know, ally to Governor Mike Brown, has they're

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Speaker 3: trying to get Alexander Wilson off the ballot. But we're

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Speaker 3: also stuck in this compressed time frame because Friday is

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Speaker 3: usually the day is the Dayton State law where counties

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Speaker 3: have to start sending absentee ballots to people who have

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Speaker 3: requested them. And Alexandra Wilson has asked for a new judge,

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Speaker 3: and it's just all this crazy mess. And yesterday the

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Speaker 3: judge in the case, who might not be the judge

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Speaker 3: for long, basically ordered the three counties that are involved

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Speaker 3: in that Senate district not to send those absentee ballots

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Speaker 3: yet while they figure out what's going on.

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Speaker 4: So Nikki what, in my mind, the worst case scenario

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Speaker 4: here would be these judges can't rule before Friday, the

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Speaker 4: counties are forced to send out the ballots, and this

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Speaker 4: woman's name is on there, and then sometime between now

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Speaker 4: and election day she's ruled ineligible.

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Speaker 5: Is that like the worst case scenario here?

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Speaker 3: I think it depends which side you're on what the

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Speaker 3: worst case scenario is. I mean, some people might say

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Speaker 3: the worst case scenario is delaying you know, these ballots

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Speaker 3: when it's you know, some people think it's clear that

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Speaker 3: she was sentenced as a misdemeanor. She got only one

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Speaker 3: year in prison, I mean a sentence she didn't actually

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Speaker 3: spend any time in prison. Also, there's a little wrinkle

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Speaker 3: in here because the Attorney General's Office is defending the

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Speaker 3: Election Commission in the case, and so they they're job

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Speaker 3: is to basically keep Alexander Wilson on the ballot, right,

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Speaker 3: They argue, you know, she doesn't fit this felony Commission conviction.

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Speaker 3: It's not a disqualifier, and this petition to remove her

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Speaker 3: should be tossed out. Brenda Wilson works for the Attorney

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Speaker 3: General's office.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, Okay, it is a tangled web. It seems like,

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Speaker 1: are there going to be like broader implications for how

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Speaker 1: absentee ballots are handled in the future.

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Speaker 2: Will this affect future elections?

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. This is pretty rare. But you know,

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Speaker 3: in these three counties it's Vigo, Clay, and Sullivan. You

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Speaker 3: know that they're definitely you know, in a in a

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Speaker 3: quagmire and kind of stuck until there's a new judge

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Speaker 1: Has Greg Good come out and said anything on the

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Speaker 1: record about this.

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Speaker 3: I mean he basically has said, we're running our race

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Speaker 3: against whoever's on the ballot, and yeah, try try and

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Speaker 2: When do you think they'll have a resolution? Is this

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Speaker 2: going to delay the election at all?

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Speaker 3: No? I don't think it could delay the election at all.

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Speaker 3: I honestly don't know. I mean, in Indiana, people in

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Speaker 3: a case are allowed to ask for a judicial judge change.

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Speaker 3: I think there are allowed one preemptory judge request. So

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Speaker 3: on one hand, Alexander Wilson is entitled that she's actually

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Speaker 3: not a party in the case. That's a little more

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Speaker 3: complicating because you know it was the Brenda Wilson people

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Speaker 3: suing the Election Commission. She is what they call an

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Speaker 1: Nikki Kelly joining us from Indiana Capital Chronicle. That is

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Speaker 1: a crazy story. There's just so many moving parts in it.

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Speaker 1: But let's move on to something else with a lot

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Speaker 1: of moving parts, and that is that Governor Mike Brown

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Speaker 1: unveiled the one billion dollar AG in Life Science's initiative.

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Speaker 2: Talk to us about that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think one thing to clarify, I

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Speaker 3: the This isn't a new one billion dollars. The ievc

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Speaker 3: IS has a certain level of text credits. They're allowed

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Speaker 3: every year right to sort of draw companies in and expansions.

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Speaker 3: They are basically saying that for the next ten years

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Speaker 3: they're going to put aside a third of those every

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Speaker 3: year and direct it towards this specific initiative on you

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Speaker 3: know what they call human, animal and Plant sciences that

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Speaker 3: are in the Central Indiana region. So there, you know,

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Speaker 3: it is a billion dollars over ten years, but it's

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Speaker 3: in existing appropriation, which also means less money for other

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Speaker 1: How is the funding going to be allocated between AG

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Speaker 1: and life sciences?

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Speaker 2: Have they broken it down.

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Speaker 3: No, I think it will depend on the companies they

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Speaker 3: court and the projects that are out there for them

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Speaker 3: to try to lure here. Yeah, I don't think they

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Speaker 1: Did they say how it's going to affect small farmers

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Speaker 1: versus large ag operations?

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Speaker 3: Now, I mean these are these are companies that are

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Speaker 3: maybe advancing agriculture science. So think of like advancing technologies

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Speaker 3: that will help farmers. Do you see what I mean? So,

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Speaker 3: I mean it's not going to have like a direct

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Speaker 3: impact on you know, John Doe's farm and so and

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Speaker 4: Nikki, I remember last year the Trump administration mentioned that

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Speaker 4: they were going to be making Indianapolis one of the

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Speaker 4: hubs for the US Department of Agriculture. Do you see

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Speaker 4: this being connected to that or is this something they

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Speaker 4: probably would have done anyway?

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Speaker 3: It was mentioned in the press release, but yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think it's probably a little a little bit related.

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Speaker 3: I did ask Governor Brown about that on that day,

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Speaker 3: and because it was announced last summer, but we haven't

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Speaker 3: heard anything since. And basically what he said is it

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Speaker 3: hasn't been derailed, that there's no new news on where

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Speaker 3: I think for now, you know, maybe in the future,

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Speaker 3: but well, you know, let's focus on the industries we

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Speaker 3: have currently produce, Involvement, Eli, Lilly, Kurtaeva, a bunch of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to ask you, have they mentioned

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Speaker 1: what sort of role that the private companies or universities

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Speaker 1: or the research institutions are going to play in this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they kept using the word synergy, you know,

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Speaker 3: work kind of together to draw investment and new jobs here.

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Speaker 3: And they promised that they will pay above the county

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Speaker 1: Nikki Kelly from Indiana Capital Chronicle joining us. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: about these snap retailers and the effect is having on

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Speaker 1: sugary drinks in the candy band. Can you identify what

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Speaker 1: is a sugary drink versus a fitness beverage?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think that's what the retailers are

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Speaker 3: wondering too, right. I do feel bad for the retailers

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Speaker 3: the government says you can't sell this to this person

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Speaker 3: over here. But they're also not like FSSAA or the state.

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Speaker 3: They're not giving them a list that says here are

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Speaker 3: all the UPC codes that you cannot sell to Snap.

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Speaker 3: They're basically making retailers go through all their stock and

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Speaker 3: make their own interpretation of what fits under these rules,

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Speaker 3: and so retailers are feeling pretty annoyed about it. Frankly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and Nikki, it seems like that if I recall,

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Speaker 4: Indiana was either the first or one of the first

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Speaker 4: states to get this waiver.

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Speaker 5: So isn't that right, correct? Yeah, So it's not like

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Speaker 5: we canmpletely.

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Speaker 4: We can't look at Ohio or Florida or Vermont and say, oh,

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Speaker 4: this is how they're doing it there. All we got

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Speaker 4: to do is copy it. Where Indiana's kind of breaking

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Speaker 3: Problem, right, And so I think green tailers feel like

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Speaker 3: they're being asked to do a lot of the sort

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Speaker 3: some places are denying it, and some places are allowing it,

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Speaker 3: so it's like depends where you shop, and you know,

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Speaker 1: It seems like there's not one consistent message across the

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Speaker 1: board on what constitutes an electrolyte beverage versus a fishy beverage,

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Speaker 1: Like they need to clearly define that for people, actually

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Speaker 1: for the right for the retailers, because it's the retailers

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Speaker 1: who are actually making the decisions.

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Speaker 3: Right and they're the ones getting yelled at by people

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Speaker 3: and you know, things like that. They're also losing a

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Speaker 3: if people can buy fewer things on Snap, and Snap

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Speaker 3: know there is a point where it will be a

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Speaker 3: you know, a dimission return if it's costing them more

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Speaker 1: It seems like it's just causing a lot of confusion

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Speaker 1: at the point of sale. Have you heard from any

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, I think everyone expected the first couple

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Speaker 3: There was a kind of grace period before the USDA

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Speaker 3: up until April first, no one, no retailers have been

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Speaker 3: the law. That that will change durning April.

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Speaker 2: First, coming up.

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Speaker 1: All right, Nikki, you're on your way to the dentist office.

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Speaker 1: I hope you enjoy your cleaning, have a good time.

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Speaker 1: Your teeth will love you for it. Thanks for reminding me,

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Speaker 1: all right, Nikki Kelly, Indiana Capitol Chronicle dot com is

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Speaker 1: where you can find her.

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Speaker 2: And you're listening to ninety three WIBC beginning.

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Speaker 1: So much coverage of Operation Epic Fury, coverage of PANBONDI

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Speaker 1: being subpoened, coverage of the confirmation hearing of Mark Wayne

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Speaker 1: Mullen for DHS Secretary. But what's really on your mind?

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Speaker 1: According to the latest poll, it is the cost of things.

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Speaker 1: That is, every other thing is just secondary to you

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Speaker 1: when you go to pay for your gas or when

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Speaker 1: you go to check out at the grocery store.

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Speaker 2: And numbers don't lie.

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Speaker 1: Most Americans think the economy is not booming when inflation

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Speaker 1: is the top worry across parties. It tells you prices

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Speaker 1: still matter more to voters than any other Washington talking point.

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Speaker 1: And there's a new Reuter's IPSOS poll and it says

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Speaker 1: that inflation still the top worry for most people. Nearly

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Speaker 6: And this is one of those because just take a

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Speaker 1: So it's interesting to hear that coming from CNN saying

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Speaker 6: The bottom line is this, The magabase within the GOP

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Speaker 6: So that one hundred percent that Donald Trump has approval

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Speaker 1: Though, with that logic, donald Trump is always going to

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Speaker 5: There is a little bit of that there. And the

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Speaker 4: From CNN, and I'll talk about the good things about

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump's doing a good job. The next day you're like, what.

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Speaker 4: The heck is he doing exactly? And so that's one

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Speaker 5: All the time.

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Speaker 7: I am literally the only Democrat in America in Congress

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Speaker 4: And Ran Paul did that, and that's how we started

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Speaker 5: And no other Democrat would say that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're listening to ninety three WIBC. Good morning.

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Speaker 1: She was walking into the danger zone and then a

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Speaker 1: bunch of Democrats walked out. It was a whole spectacle

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Speaker 1: and it just shows why people don't trust what's going

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Speaker 1: on in Washington, DC. If the DOJ had just released

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Speaker 1: everything already, there wouldn't be tantrums.

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Speaker 2: And there wouldn't be walkout.

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Speaker 1: So you had top Justice Department officials, including the Attorney

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Speaker 1: General Pam Bondi and the Deputy Attorney General Top Blanche.

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Speaker 1: They briefed the House Oversight Committee in a closed door

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Speaker 1: meeting yesterday about the dog's DOJ's handling of the Epstein

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Speaker 1: investigation and also related documents. Now this came, of course,

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Speaker 1: hours after it was reported that Pam Bondi was being subpoened.

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Speaker 1: So she went over there and said, well, let's talk answer.

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Speaker 1: I'll answer any questions.

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Speaker 5: You have and the Democrats just walked out.

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Speaker 2: And the Democrats walked out.

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Speaker 4: This is the biggest unforced error by the Democrats that

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Speaker 4: I have seen in a long time, and that is

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Speaker 4: really saying something. They had Pam Bondi on the ropes.

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Speaker 4: Look I like Pam Bondy. I've been cheering for Pam

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Speaker 4: Bondi to be successful. Spoiler alert, she has not been successful.

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Speaker 4: It's been a rough go of it for Pam Bondi

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Speaker 4: since she became Attorney General.

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Speaker 5: And here they go.

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Speaker 4: They're going to have her in front of this committee

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Speaker 4: and they're going to be able to ask her all

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Speaker 4: these questions. Pam Bondi is on the ropes. It reminds

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Speaker 4: me of the famous Muhammad Ali George Foreman fight the

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Speaker 4: Rumble in the Jungle in nineteen seventy four, and George

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Speaker 4: Foreman came out swinging, and all Muhammad Ali did was

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Speaker 4: just play defense. He just played defense for seven rounds

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Speaker 4: and just waiting for George Foreman to wear himself out

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Speaker 4: and make a mistake. And in the eighth round, Ali

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Speaker 4: comes out swinging and gets the knockout on George Foreman.

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Speaker 4: That's exactly Pam b was Muhammad Ali and the Democrats

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Speaker 4: were George Foreman. They had this one, this issue won.

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Speaker 4: They were on the verge of getting another scalp for them,

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Speaker 4: just like they did from Christinome, and instead, because there

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Speaker 4: were no TV cameras in there, the Democrats were like, well,

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Speaker 4: we don't care, we don't want this.

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Speaker 5: I thought there were gonna be TV cameras here.

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Speaker 4: They walk out, So now the story is all about

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Speaker 4: how the Democrats walked out. Nobody's really talking about Pam Bondy.

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Speaker 4: They're talking about how the Democrats look like.

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Speaker 5: Idiots and walked out. And this proves and shows just

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Speaker 5: exactly that the Democrats don't care about Pam BONDI.

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Speaker 2: Well, it makes it look like they don't care about

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Speaker 2: the Epstein file. They don't care about or transparent. Do

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Speaker 2: you know it's about put me on camera?

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Speaker 5: Do you know how I.

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Speaker 4: Can prove that the Democrats don't care about the Epstein

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Speaker 4: files because under four years of Joe Biden and parts

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Speaker 4: of it, they had the Senate, the House, and the

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Speaker 4: presidency and you never heard the Epstein files mentioned once

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Speaker 4: from the Democrats. They had the ability to do whatever

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Speaker 4: they wanted with the Epstein files. When they were in

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Speaker 4: control of the government. They did absolutely nothing. They don't

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Speaker 4: have any they don't care about the Epstein files today.

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Speaker 4: They just want to use the Epstein files to prove

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Speaker 4: to gain political points. And when the cameras weren't there,

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Speaker 4: they said, well, I'm not going to gain any political

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Speaker 4: points here. I'm going to storm out of here. And

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Speaker 4: now all we're talking about is how big and idiots

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Speaker 4: the Democrats are, instead of the poor job that Pam

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Speaker 4: Bondi has been doing as Attorney General.

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Speaker 1: So the briefing was all part of Congress's ongoing oversight

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Speaker 1: of how the DOJ compiled with the complied with the

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Speaker 1: Epstein Transparency Act, and that's the law that required the

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Speaker 1: Department to release millions of pages of files related to

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Speaker 1: Epstein and his associates. But the controversy centers on the

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Speaker 1: allegations that the dj withheld or heavily redacted key information

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Speaker 1: in the files. And she said, okay, you're going to

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Speaker 1: subpoena mein no problem. You know what, I'll just come

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Speaker 1: there today your meeting and I'll answer your questions. But

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Speaker 1: instead you've got Representative Garcia, Democrat.

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Speaker 2: He said.

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Speaker 1: Lawmakers walked out because of complete disrespect for the process.

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Speaker 1: He said that the American public should be outraged listen

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Speaker 1: to this.

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Speaker 8: This has spanned four administrations Bush, Obama, Well Trump one

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Speaker 8: forty five where Jeffrey Epstein was prosecuted, and then Joe

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Speaker 8: Biden's administration, where zero documents were provided. We have provided

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Speaker 8: three million documents. Three million documents, the height of the

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Speaker 8: Eiffel Tower used. Five hundred attorneys working around the clock,

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Speaker 8: have identified, either they self identified or through their attorneys,

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Speaker 8: twelve hundred victims who we did our very very best

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Speaker 8: to protect their identities. And so we're proud of the

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Speaker 8: work that we've done on this. Go ahead, next question,

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Speaker 8: we've got.

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Speaker 9: Some of the committee walked out.

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Speaker 10: They called it a quote fake hearing and said, you're

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Speaker 10: just trying to get around appearing for a deposition.

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Speaker 7: Can you responsibi?

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Speaker 8: Sure? We were there to answer questions the evening. We

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Speaker 8: came at their convenience. We gave them as really as

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Speaker 8: much time as the day wanted, and one congresswoman screamed

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Speaker 8: c Span wasn't in there, so she didn't want to

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Speaker 8: ask questions. Yet all day long, they've been on social

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Speaker 8: media saying they had all these questions. We sat there

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Speaker 8: saying anything you want to ask us, ask us anything

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Speaker 8: you want to ask us, and they screamed c Span

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Speaker 8: wasn't there, one of them, and then they stormed out.

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Speaker 1: Of the meeting. So okay, So that's your Attorney General

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Speaker 1: Pam Bondi saying that the Democrats walked out because se

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Speaker 1: Span wasn't there and they couldn't get on camera. And

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Speaker 1: this was after she met in that closed door meeting

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Speaker 1: and she was answering questions in response to Representative Garcia. Now,

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Speaker 1: this is what he is saying. Here's the reason he's

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Speaker 1: saying that they walked out.

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Speaker 9: I just want to make some comments. We just walked

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Speaker 9: out of what has been, quite frankly, a complete disrespect

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Speaker 9: of the process of one of our members, and quite frankly,

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Speaker 9: the American public should be outrage at what is happening

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Speaker 9: right now. I want to just start by saying that

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Speaker 9: we opened up what was supposed to be a briefing

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Speaker 9: by asking the Attorney General, which I did multiple times,

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Speaker 9: if she would commit to follow the subpoena that is

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Speaker 9: in place that compels her to answer questions that's under oath,

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Speaker 9: transcribed and then made available to the American people. And

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Speaker 9: she refused on multiple occasions to commit to following the

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Speaker 9: subpoena that Chairman comb were actually just put.

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Speaker 1: Out, it's not even happening until April fourteenth.

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Speaker 2: They want her to commit weeks in advance. She hasn't

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Speaker 2: said no.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, it's a lame excuse that that Democrat

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Speaker 4: is giving there, because there are plenty of people that

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Speaker 4: testify in front of Congress behind closed doors, without cameras

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Speaker 4: and not under oath, and it's perfectly acceptable, and it

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Speaker 4: happens all the time in Washington. Supambomedy wasn't doing anything

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Speaker 4: out of the ordinary or anything special or anything as

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Speaker 4: part of this. It happens all the time in Washington.

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Speaker 4: And again the.

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Speaker 5: Democrats totally blew this.

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Speaker 4: We just heard from John Fetterman earlier in the show

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Speaker 4: and we talked about how when John Fetterman was asked, hey,

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Speaker 4: who is the head of the Democrat Party right now,

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Speaker 4: he rightly said TDS Trump derangement syndrome is the head

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Speaker 4: of the Democrat Party right now. And we just saw

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Speaker 4: it play out imperfect example with Pam Bondy. They didn't

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Speaker 4: get what they want, so they flipped out and ran out,

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Speaker 4: and rather them having the opportunity to again hold Pambondy

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Speaker 4: accountable for the problems that she's had and she's had

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Speaker 4: a lot of problems as attorney general.

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Speaker 5: Rather than do that and try and make that.

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Speaker 4: The story in the news cycle, they walk out, and

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Speaker 4: now it's all about the Democrats walking out, and Pambondy

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Speaker 4: is no less accountable today than she was the day before.

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Speaker 1: So at this point she seems to be cooperating with them.

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Speaker 1: Yet they want nothing to do with it because it's

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Speaker 1: not convenient for them anymore, or they can't get on

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Speaker 1: camera like what they're desiring.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they couldn't show vote in front of the cameras

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Speaker 4: because they all love it when they can sit here

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Speaker 4: and give the business to whoever's testifying in front of

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Speaker 4: them and look like, you know, big tough guys. And

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Speaker 4: then they clip those and they distribute them all over

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Speaker 4: social media and they send them out to their donor

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Speaker 4: base so that they can fundraise from it.

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Speaker 1: So do they want answers or do they want clicks

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Speaker 1: likes and views?

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Speaker 4: They want clicks, likes and views. They don't want answers.

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Speaker 4: If they wanted answers, they would have done this when

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Speaker 4: they were in power under Joe Biden, and they had

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Speaker 4: the Senate, and they had the House, and nobody mentioned

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Speaker 4: Jeffrey Epstein during that entire period of time. This walk

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Speaker 4: out by the Democrats is a massive self own and.

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Speaker 5: Unforced error and.

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Speaker 4: Keeps them from being able to do what they want

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Speaker 4: to do, which is hold pen body accountable.

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Speaker 1: Coming up, we've got the best audio of the day.

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Speaker 1: It's an older influencer. It's coming up from ninety three.

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Speaker 1: WYBC came across this yesterday and I thought it was

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Speaker 1: kind of interesting and worth the conversation. You've seen the

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Speaker 1: get Ready with Me trend on social media?

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately, Yes, I've seen too many get Ready with Me

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Speaker 4: videos on social media and not my cupan.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's a little twist on that. It's an older influencer.

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Speaker 1: She's above seventy years old.

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Speaker 2: Listen to this.

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Speaker 10: Get ready with me to take my obituary photo. My

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Speaker 10: friend just passed away and her photo was really bad.

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Speaker 10: I don't want to end.

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Speaker 8: Up like her.

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Speaker 10: First, I gotta hydrate my skin with my favorite. I

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Speaker 10: do not want to be remembered for dry skin. I'm

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Speaker 10: gonna put some on my neck. Vesseline has helped me

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Speaker 10: for years, so I'm glad to partner with them. My

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Speaker 10: ex show me and I'm glad he did. I'm gonna

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Speaker 10: put this on my face. I want a natural look.

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Speaker 10: The photographer is cube, so just in case, let me.

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Speaker 2: Show you my outlet.

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Speaker 10: This is my outfit. I'm ready to sleep forever, I

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Speaker 10: think you.

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Speaker 1: So this is one of the most truthful get Ready

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Speaker 1: with Me ever. Influencers should have a minimum age. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it should be seventy five, but

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Speaker 1: maybe fifty plus, right, because you get all these influencers

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Speaker 1: doing their scarekin routines and advice and they still have

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Speaker 1: baby teeth in a ring light. This is a woman

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Speaker 1: who's probably seen a few things, has a couple of cardigans,

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Speaker 1: and really doesn't care if you like her. We've got

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Speaker 1: to stop taking advice from a twenty two year old

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Speaker 1: when it's easy for them to keep muscle in state,

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Speaker 1: lean and have a beautiful skin they haven't aged yet.

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Speaker 4: I love everything about this. What a sweet old lady

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Speaker 4: there doing her get Ready with Me videos on social media?

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Speaker 4: Yeah exactly. But I've seen this in some other areas.

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Speaker 4: So there's this old grandma that plays video games with

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Speaker 4: her grandkids and she's got a YouTube channel and she

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Speaker 4: streams on Twitch. And what's funny about her is that

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Speaker 4: she's a little salty in her language. She's constantly dropping

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Speaker 4: f peppers in that sort of stand funny. But there's

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Speaker 4: this other guy. His name's Grandpa Gaming, and he plays

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Speaker 4: the College Duty video game where it's it's a simulated

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Speaker 4: war game where you go around shooting people and playing war.

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Speaker 4: And dude's got one point five million people on his

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Speaker 4: YouTube channel, He's got a massive following on Twitch. He's

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Speaker 4: all over social media because he's funny and he tells

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Speaker 4: stories and he has a good time. And he's like

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Speaker 4: seventy one years old playing Call of Duty, and these

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Speaker 4: twenty year old guys that are playing against him just

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Speaker 4: have absolutely fallen in love with him. So I think

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Speaker 4: that we need we need definitely more senior citizen influencers

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Speaker 4: and fewer gen Z influencers.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting that she was like, get

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Speaker 1: ready with me while I take my obituary picture. Her

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Speaker 1: friend passed away and that wasn't a good pick, so

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Speaker 1: she wants a better picture.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean great self awareness on her partnering. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: she knows, hey, you're seventy five years old. You know,

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Speaker 4: you only have so many days on this planet, and

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Speaker 4: I want to look good when my pictures in the

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Speaker 4: paper when I pass away. So here I am with

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Speaker 4: my daily skincare routine. I love, love, love Senior citizen influencers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she was out there.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Now this person and is not a senior citizen.

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Speaker 1: He's no longer with us. In fact, Val Kilmer passed

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Speaker 1: away in twenty twenty five. But yet he's getting a

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Speaker 1: new role in a movie. And this with the help

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Speaker 1: of AI technology, it's helping to recreate his likeness and voice.

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Speaker 1: It's not been filmed just yet. They're still in the

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Speaker 1: making it stage. The movie is called As Deep as

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Speaker 1: the Grave.

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Speaker 2: It's a historical.

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Speaker 1: Drama piece, and Kilmer was cast in the film before

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Speaker 1: he died, but his health issues throat cancer prevented him

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Speaker 1: from filming. But apparently he told his children that he

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Speaker 1: still wanted to be in the movie and he was

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Speaker 1: okay with it. So they're taking his likeness and they're

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Speaker 1: putting him in the movie.

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Speaker 2: Anyway.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we're going to start seeing a lot

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Speaker 4: more of this. I mean, this is good that Val kilmoer.

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Speaker 4: It sounds like He's made the appropriate you know, instructions

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Speaker 4: and paperwork to let the movie have the rights to

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Speaker 4: his likeness and image to use the AI. But this

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Speaker 4: isn't even the first time that we've heard about this.

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Speaker 4: Probably the most popular one so far was a couple

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Speaker 4: of years ago James Earl Jones. Of course, famously the

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Speaker 4: voice of Darth Vader passed away. He gave Disney the

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Speaker 4: rights to his likeness, image and voice in perpetuity going forward,

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Speaker 4: so you will see James Earl voice will be the

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Speaker 4: voice of Darth Vader in Star Wars movies fifty seventy

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Speaker 4: eighty years from now. I just got to believe that you're.

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Speaker 2: In rejecting your legacy right well, and.

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Speaker 4: It's an iconic movie, and obviously Disney and the Star

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Speaker 4: Wars people have a huge vested interest because you can't

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Speaker 4: recreate James Earl Jones's voice. It's so just distinctive and iconic,

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Speaker 4: and anything else coming out of Darth Vader's you know,

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Speaker 4: costume would just not seem right. And now you've got

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Speaker 4: an instance here with Val Kilmer. This is going to

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Speaker 4: become a trend in Hollywood. You will see more actors

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Speaker 4: and actresses signing their likeness away to studios to use

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Speaker 4: them via AI after they passed.

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Speaker 1: I don't know bringing someone back from the dead with AI.

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Speaker 1: It may be well intended, but it seems a little creepy.

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Speaker 1: It does set a precedent too for art and if

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Speaker 1: Hollywood can't be telling stories with living actors, maybe the

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Speaker 1: problem isn't who's on screen, but what they're doing.

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Speaker 5: I get it.

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Speaker 4: There are going to be a lot of people that

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Speaker 4: have a problem with this, and like you said, it

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Speaker 4: does give off some big time creepy vibes.

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Speaker 5: But everything else with AI has a lot of.

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Speaker 4: Creepiness to it too, And it's coming right at us

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Speaker 4: like a freight train and there's nothing that's going to

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Speaker 4: stop it.

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Speaker 1: So there was a Joint Economic Committee yesterday and they

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Speaker 1: were having a hearing on labor and immigration issues and

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Speaker 1: Indiana Rep. Victorious Sparts she was they were talking about

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Speaker 1: immigration to welfare issues, but she brought up the aspect

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Speaker 1: of the effects of AI and automation on our labor

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Speaker 1: markets and not that's not being properly addressed by policies.

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Speaker 2: And here she is asking some questions.

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Speaker 11: There's a lot of you know, interesting and not great

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Speaker 11: trends with including with immigration. We always had immigration for

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Speaker 11: jobs and opportunities. We're now created a system where we

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Speaker 11: have a lot of immigration for welfare and this you

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Speaker 11: know very well. We're reach our dad is reaching forty trillion,

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Speaker 11: so we're on the way to have big problems and

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Speaker 11: welfare systems collapsing. And truly we don't even have ability

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Speaker 11: to support the promised benefits and we have to do

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Speaker 11: my serious reforms. But how is AI and an automation

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Speaker 11: that will be new devents?

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Speaker 3: How is that?

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Speaker 5: Is that a fact?

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Speaker 11: And how we should look at immigration systems shouldn't have

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Speaker 11: effects because we need to look at our domestic labor markets,

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Speaker 11: but should an immigration system also if we want to

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Speaker 11: benefit those innovative industries that are going to be changing,

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Speaker 11: it wouldn't be affecting.

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Speaker 1: Also, it's really interesting with that Victorious Parts is talking

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Speaker 1: about immigration to welfare trends, but she's also addressing.

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Speaker 2: AI and automation and they need to address those policies.

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Speaker 5: Now it's all AI, it's all coming.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to ninety three WYBC.

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Speaker 1: Good morning,