WEBVTT - Pluribus Season 1

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<v Speaker 1>The Frames per Second Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Frames per Second Podcast, where we are

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<v Speaker 2>reviewing Apple Plus TV show made by Vince Gilligan from

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<v Speaker 2>Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul Plurists. I'm not at home.

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<v Speaker 2>I am here with I am here with Ken.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what show that was was that season

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<v Speaker 3>two said? Is how you say it?

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<v Speaker 2>Clarabus? This show don't deserve to be pronounced right but jam,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're getting how everybody feels about it again.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm here with Ken.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Rod, I will throw it to you first, Rod,

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<v Speaker 2>what did you think about pluebris?

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<v Speaker 4>When I think about Claribus, I'm with I thought it

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<v Speaker 4>was fun like like I didn't. I wasn't mad about

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<v Speaker 4>because I had I had to just go ahead and

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<v Speaker 4>pay for Apple Apple Plus for a month or whatever

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<v Speaker 4>because we were out of our trial. Because I think

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<v Speaker 4>they watched something. So I just had to just I

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<v Speaker 4>just bought it for a month. So I've been trying

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<v Speaker 4>to watch as much Apple t Plus TV ship. Just

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<v Speaker 4>let me know what I need to watch. I sat

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<v Speaker 4>to watch Studio, okay, so let's let me know what

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<v Speaker 4>I need to watch while I have it right now, huh.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll send you something the last part of my top

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<v Speaker 2>teen with all Apple TV shows.

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<v Speaker 4>M hmm, okay, you're four out of five, okay, okay, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you know I noticed that the stick it was on there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, give.

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<v Speaker 3>Me something, yeah, because I am trying to utilize it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good Jackson. It's a good Samuel Jackson series.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't like the Samuel Jackson show.

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<v Speaker 4>Watch I saw that, yeah, yeah, shrinking right, all right? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so but nah, I didn't think it was bad. I

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<v Speaker 4>thought it was interesting personally. I like kind of like

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<v Speaker 4>End of the World type shows or movies, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what this is. What this felt like.

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<v Speaker 4>I had a you know, a bit of a melancholia

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<v Speaker 4>feel to it. So yeah, I was interested. I was

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<v Speaker 4>interested to see what was going on here or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'll get more into it as we go through

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<v Speaker 4>the review. Ken, what'd you think?

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<v Speaker 1>Overall? I think I ended up disappointed. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>think on other shows or episodes, like watching the first

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<v Speaker 1>couple of episodes, I was hyped for it. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, this ship is gonna be crazy. But I

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<v Speaker 1>forgot Vince got Vince Gilligan does it shows and he

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<v Speaker 1>just drags everything else. I had to stop watching him

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm like, we're doing absolutely nothing to set up

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<v Speaker 1>something two or three seasons later, and it's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have time for all that ship. So I stopped

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<v Speaker 1>watching it so I could binge it. And then when

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<v Speaker 1>I was binging it, it was like okay, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and then uh, that was a real emotional moment later on.

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<v Speaker 1>But then finally got to the end, I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>good way to end it. But then we spent a

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<v Speaker 1>whole lot of time just kind of getting to that point,

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<v Speaker 1>which you know, yeah, I don't know, man, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was disappointing. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't imagine not beinging this personally. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>yeah yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't have probably have been enjoyed before me if

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<v Speaker 4>I if I had to watch this.

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<v Speaker 1>So this comes out week, this comes out. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>week to week show, bro. You know interesting, I did

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<v Speaker 1>concept thought the whole nine It's just that. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's I wait for two or three seasons out and

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<v Speaker 1>then watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Stick.

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<v Speaker 3>M h.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, do you like me? You like Vince though?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>No, you don't like Vince Gilley.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't give a shit about Breaking Bad. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it was. Yeah, I'm not one of those people that

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<v Speaker 3>thinks that's one of the best shows ever made. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's a fine show. But I haven't watched Breaking

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<v Speaker 3>Call Better Better, Better Call Sau. I haven't watched that,

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<v Speaker 3>But this wasn't bad. It was just fucking dull, unbelievably dull,

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<v Speaker 3>that's all. And maybe that was the point, but I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know. Go ahead, so I'm not alone. I'm one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred percent wood can sit. I tried watching the first

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<v Speaker 3>two when it came out, and it's like, okay, because.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I Vis Gillig can tell the stories extremely

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<v Speaker 2>So I had the same problem with Better Call Salt,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that's one of the best shows and

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<v Speaker 2>ever picked up three seasons in. And that's exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>scared me about this. As I was watching, so I

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<v Speaker 2>do like you did, and I stopped and I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I just let my all ben show. And then as

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<v Speaker 2>I'm binging it, I was just bored, Like I started

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<v Speaker 2>scrolling my phone like there was nothing going on. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm giving Vince the benefit of the doubt because I

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<v Speaker 2>know it's how he does it shows. But as far

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<v Speaker 2>as this as an individual season, I would can't. I

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<v Speaker 2>would lift this build up for three seasons before I

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<v Speaker 2>get back into this. It just wouldn't uneventful.

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<v Speaker 4>I only felt that way towards the ladder, like towards

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<v Speaker 4>the end, like I was just like, okay, yeah, these

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit of a drag, but you know, it

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<v Speaker 4>pulled me in because I really wonder like the concept

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<v Speaker 4>of it not technically being an alien evasion or whatever,

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<v Speaker 4>but just like some sort of like wave like virus

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<v Speaker 4>type of situation that's basically taking over these these bodies.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm wondering, like, what the hell is going on here?

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<v Speaker 2>That's interesting, and I do wonder what's going on, But

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<v Speaker 2>I think the difference in the other show is where

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<v Speaker 2>you could deal with somewhat. That's the pace that he has.

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<v Speaker 2>They're more interesting characters. Carol just wasn't. I didn't give

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<v Speaker 2>a fuck about Carrol. I didn't want to spend that

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<v Speaker 2>much time with her, and it was just draging off

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<v Speaker 2>hud Is doing mundane stuff. I'm like, bro, come on,

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it was. It was really really slow, painfully

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<v Speaker 2>slow for me. I like Caro. I thought she was funny.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought she had like like really good comedic timming.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I thought, is she a comedian?

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<v Speaker 2>She was good like that in The Better Costs All?

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<v Speaker 2>She was actually better actually, But I don't know that

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<v Speaker 2>just drug like every time when she made the phone call,

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<v Speaker 2>like I didn't want to hear her recording everything.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't find it funny, but I think it was intentional.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it was supposed to be funny. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it was just supposed to kind of just push

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<v Speaker 3>the idea of the mundane parts of Like. I actually

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<v Speaker 3>didn't mind that that they made us hear the fucking

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<v Speaker 3>the handswering machine thing every single time.

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<v Speaker 2>I hated that.

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<v Speaker 3>But the show itself, it was just there's not enough

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<v Speaker 3>going on to where I care.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, agreed, all right? So the first episode was called

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<v Speaker 2>We Is Us and Carol or Romantics a romance novelist.

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<v Speaker 2>She watched the world fall apart as an extraterrestrial virus

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<v Speaker 2>sweeps humanity into a collective hive mine the others all

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<v Speaker 2>while she remains immune. She loses her partner Helen and

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<v Speaker 2>the chaos and learned that there are dozens other like her.

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<v Speaker 2>What'd you guys think about this first episode of learning

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<v Speaker 2>about the virus and how it took people's mind over

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<v Speaker 2>and things like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it pulled me in immediately, like, uh, especially the

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<v Speaker 4>scene outside where it was no one, like it was

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<v Speaker 4>just quiet and they just talking and don't even realize

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<v Speaker 4>like he ain't no type of activity going on right now,

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<v Speaker 4>and they go in there the motherfuckers like twitching and ship.

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<v Speaker 3>Like Michael, Yo, what she did was way worse than

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<v Speaker 3>what I just did. Motherfuckers. What's and what's up? What

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<v Speaker 3>these motherfuckers doing all this shit?

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<v Speaker 4>But but nah, yeah, I was like, oh man, what

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<v Speaker 4>the fuck is going on? You know what I'm saying. So,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was wondering, like why why isn't she affected?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, that that was enough for me to be like, okay, yo,

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<v Speaker 4>this this is really interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>So nah, and and I like, uh, the idea of.

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<v Speaker 4>Them not wanting to hurt a harm and be they

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<v Speaker 4>accommodating you to someone, It's just like, okay, this is

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<v Speaker 4>because you know, that's not how you would think of

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<v Speaker 4>an invasion or whatever you would think that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they had that one movie I Come In Piece.

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<v Speaker 4>You know y'all remember that ship I Come In Piece,

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<v Speaker 4>the movie called I'm Coming Peace. I remember the name

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<v Speaker 4>of he's the all way he did like some cards,

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<v Speaker 4>he's like lasers or some ship.

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<v Speaker 3>It was old eighties movies.

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<v Speaker 4>It's called I'm come in peace, but he would say it,

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<v Speaker 4>but he will kill you. It's like, oh, I come

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<v Speaker 4>in peace and then he'll kill you or whatever. But

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<v Speaker 4>this is like no, no, they actually are saying that

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<v Speaker 4>they're coming, like basically, no, we you know, we don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to harm you. We actually just want the best

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<v Speaker 4>for you. I was like, oh, that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I thought that was that was good that

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<v Speaker 3>they were lying though, aren't they But you're saying that

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<v Speaker 3>they're lying, but it hasn't shown that.

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<v Speaker 1>They're lying yet. You know, I don't know. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as we go on, there's I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that the way they invaded everybody was very

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<v Speaker 1>very forceful and against their will. So to Spike's point,

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<v Speaker 1>they were what is that a lot? I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>because nobody consented. It wasn't until later, And I think

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they're this way now because there are people they

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<v Speaker 1>can't get so now it's all about consent. But either way,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they did a good job of like I

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<v Speaker 1>think you did a good job of selling it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>off real, this idea of these people being one hive mind,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like the board from Star Trek. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was all on board. Just how you set

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<v Speaker 1>it up. You know, you see everything happening. They go

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<v Speaker 1>to the bar and you see people drinking stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>in the water and stuff like that, and going out,

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<v Speaker 1>and the wreck happening, and her driving to the hospital

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where like it. It was a good setup.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought was in for hell of a show.

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<v Speaker 2>Say, I was on the same page as you thought. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this is good. I know Vince is good. I'm interested

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<v Speaker 2>to see what happens. It's just too painfully slow.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike, what you say first episode, I was on board

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<v Speaker 3>before I get into what I think about what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm still confused about what happened to the wife. Why

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<v Speaker 3>did she die? Did she died from the fall? What fall?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>She felt flat back? Like is that what kills her?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm just I'm just saying no.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's just eleven million people died as they

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<v Speaker 2>doing it. Yeah, they did it, So she was just

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<v Speaker 2>one of the people.

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<v Speaker 1>That didn't work.

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<v Speaker 3>I see, Okay, I was so confused all the way

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<v Speaker 3>up until the end. I was like, I don't understand

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<v Speaker 3>why she didn't just become one of the aliens.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think they're still trying to reveal that part,

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<v Speaker 4>like while others died.

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<v Speaker 2>She asked him how many people died in order for

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<v Speaker 2>you to do this? And she said they first, and

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<v Speaker 2>then she was like eleven million or something world.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it was something to do with her

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<v Speaker 1>physically as well.

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<v Speaker 3>See, yeah, that's what I thought too. They amplied that

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<v Speaker 3>there was something going on with her health wise, but

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<v Speaker 3>I just I couldn't put it together, maybe because it

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<v Speaker 3>was so fucking boring, But first episode I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>this is interesting, but I think and I'm probably wrong

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<v Speaker 3>because y'all haven't mentioned it yet, but I feel like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a metaphor. Yeah I didn't get Ai, but

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<v Speaker 3>the whole idea of you know, we think we know

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<v Speaker 3>what's best for you, and we're gonna force what we

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<v Speaker 3>think is best for you onto you. Who does that

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<v Speaker 3>sound like Maga Venezuela. I give you a hint. So

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, Okay, is this whole thing going to

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<v Speaker 3>be about like a big metaphor for fucking America. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if that's what they're going for, but if

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<v Speaker 3>that is, then I it didn't really work for me

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<v Speaker 3>that well. But that's kind of what I felt like

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<v Speaker 3>after the first episode. I was like, Oh, so there,

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<v Speaker 3>they think they know what's best for everybody, so they're

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<v Speaker 3>pushing this idea forcefully onto them of everybody just assimilating,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's the one person that refuses to assimilate. So

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<v Speaker 3>they're constantly yelling at this person. And what's that wrong?

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<v Speaker 4>She was like, I took care of as the representation

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<v Speaker 4>of every entitled white woman.

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<v Speaker 3>I told her I was episodes of a white woman

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<v Speaker 3>be in a Carrien. I got the opposite of that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>because she's right. I'm not saying she's wrong, per se.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just saying the way you know, I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 4>take your vaccine, don't force this vaccine on me, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>like you see what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how I took her. I didn't get I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>going to take your vaccine. Well, I mean, now that

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<v Speaker 3>you're saying it out loud, I guess I kind of see,

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<v Speaker 3>but I don't. I don't know that that's what they

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<v Speaker 3>were going for. That's how she looked to me. I

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<v Speaker 3>was constantly behind her the whole time. I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm with you. I don't I never got entitled. I

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<v Speaker 3>got like, she literally sees that this is fucked up

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<v Speaker 3>what y'all are doing and you're removing. Damn. That does

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<v Speaker 3>sound like that does sound like an title caring. It does.

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<v Speaker 3>But but but I.

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<v Speaker 4>Feel what you're saying at the same time as far

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<v Speaker 4>as like the you know, the free will and all

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<v Speaker 4>that type of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's what they say about the vaccine. I know

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't connect it. I know, I know didn't line.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's I think it's a thin line, and

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>She wasn't wrong, it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it did sound like you're not going to

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<v Speaker 3>force this on me. Damn. I did not connect that.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's in the fact that she was a white

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<v Speaker 4>woman doing it. That's what that's why I connected it

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<v Speaker 4>that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all think y'all will react to the same way that

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<v Speaker 2>Carol did. Hell yeah, yeah, I think so.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>Look peace, don't get me wrong, but not but world

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<v Speaker 4>peace in the sense of like just everybody get y'all

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<v Speaker 4>shipped together. And I know, hive mind ship but like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I want everybody to still have their own individuality.

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<v Speaker 3>But just you know, just be kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, well because even because think about all the

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<v Speaker 1>people that's part of it, they can't get out, they

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<v Speaker 1>can't disconnect from the hoigh mine, even if they wanted to,

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<v Speaker 1>because they no longer have their own. Yeah, it's a rap.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's the same.

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<v Speaker 4>Like the idea of it is, it's good, but the

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<v Speaker 4>actual thing that's happening isn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I thought the writing was good on here,

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<v Speaker 4>because you know it, you know, some of it kind

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<v Speaker 4>of made her. I don't think it ever made a

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<v Speaker 4>second guess herself, but it did make it makes the

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<v Speaker 4>viewer be like, h would I do that? You know

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<v Speaker 4>what I'm saying, Like like the question you just asked,

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<v Speaker 4>because he's talking about no killings, no war, none of

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<v Speaker 4>these things anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>You got full access to everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Full access to everything.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah no, No, money is not race and color is

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<v Speaker 4>not a thing anymore. Like all of these things sound great. Oh, socialism,

0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:55.520
<v Speaker 4>all of these things sound great, but not in this

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<v Speaker 4>scenario when you're taking up a bodyes and not when

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<v Speaker 4>you're taking.

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<v Speaker 1>Over bodies.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that, because he would have been that nasty motherfucker

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<v Speaker 3>with Autumn Hose.

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely would have.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, h.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, everybody know what we've been doing.

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<v Speaker 3>As long as long as you're good, it's don't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a whole billions of trillions of people nobody was good. Well,

0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:29.080
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of people that have become part of

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<v Speaker 1>the High Mind and they know everything about every single person.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So as long as you're good at fucking, you

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<v Speaker 3>ain't gonna worry about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Stop dude saying you're pedophile. Take this out. You know

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, you're a pedal. Stop. Oh Jesus, I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Episode two is called so inm Pirate Lady God Carol

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<v Speaker 2>attend me with the other Moon immune individuals and she

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<v Speaker 2>clashes with them because Midy have accepted their faiths and

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<v Speaker 2>they have as an offer of peace, while her anger

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<v Speaker 2>and refusal to assimulate them causes tension. What did y'all

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<v Speaker 2>think about the meeting with the rest of the immune people?

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all think that she was overreacting or were.

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<v Speaker 3>They They were over like they weren't even listening to her.

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<v Speaker 2>They was cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but they were being stupid. She every step of them.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, she's right, though, y'all, why are y'all

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<v Speaker 3>acting like this? You know that's not your fucking kid.

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<v Speaker 3>You know that's not your child.

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<v Speaker 1>But very similarly, we see people do that and zombie shows,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with the dad and stupid then too. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So I read it that way, like this is the

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<v Speaker 1>only way that I can hang on to them, So

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take it, because you know, I missed them, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that they just gave in. I think

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<v Speaker 1>she was right. I don't know why they refused to listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I get the mom with the child and the family.

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<v Speaker 1>She had a reason why. I get the guy because

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<v Speaker 1>he had everything, you know, so he for him, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a the world is wide open. He got woman,

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<v Speaker 1>he got money, he got whatever he wants. So he

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<v Speaker 1>gets the benefit of the hive mind without being in

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<v Speaker 1>the high mind, you know. So, but she was absolutely right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she just killed a bunch of people with

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<v Speaker 1>her anger too, you know. So there was some resentment

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<v Speaker 1>built up for.

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<v Speaker 3>That that was happening. Why they were why they were

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<v Speaker 3>acting different than Carol. Oh in their mind. I'll wait

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<v Speaker 3>till we get that episode. This is the episode m h.

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<v Speaker 3>It reveals it later on, and I was.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, oh, I get it, but they all had their

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<v Speaker 4>reasons though, right, we'll get there.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the alternative though, Like I could see that I

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<v Speaker 2>can understand that Carol is right, but I'm sure they

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<v Speaker 2>looking at it like Okay, well, what are we gonna do?

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<v Speaker 2>It's either like what are you gonna kill yourself? Like

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<v Speaker 2>you can't change the Bible?

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it took over, so they ain't no need you

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<v Speaker 2>bitching about.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's also that situation of like, you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>sit in America and America is doing funck shit, and

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<v Speaker 3>either you know it's funck shit and you operate accordingly,

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<v Speaker 3>or you act like it's not functionhit and you just

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<v Speaker 3>blending with the functionhit. That's how That's why I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>think of a Carol as a as a Karen, even

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<v Speaker 3>though I get Rod's point, but she was like, why

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<v Speaker 3>are y'all pretending that this is okay? And at the time,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think Carol knew that there was no way back.

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<v Speaker 3>I think her anger, her frustration was the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>they weren't even trying to fight. They were just like, Okay, well,

0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:41.520
<v Speaker 3>this is how it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they just gave up, right you know?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, because she's like, that's not your son, right, No,

0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:55.280
<v Speaker 4>that's not your family member, Like yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. So in episode three is called Grenade. In

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<v Speaker 2>this episode, it consists of a flashback that shows Carol

0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:05.600
<v Speaker 2>and Helen before joining, before the joining, and then in

0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:08.760
<v Speaker 2>the present it shows Carol's frustration boils over, at least

0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:12.400
<v Speaker 2>to what you said, Mike, a dangerous confrontation with Zosa

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<v Speaker 2>that ends in a grenade explosion.

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<v Speaker 3>What was it, lady name? This is what she asked for,

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<v Speaker 3>the bomb, the greade, the grenade because he hadn't talked

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<v Speaker 3>about to this point, right, No, we haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>But you were thinking about the atomic bomb.

0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:30.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when she asked for the a bomb and they

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<v Speaker 2>said we'll give it.

0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:33.000
<v Speaker 1>To yes, she asked if with yeah, if I asked

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<v Speaker 1>for one, would.

0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:35.399
<v Speaker 2>You bring They were like, yeah, yeah, we have to.

0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:37.960
<v Speaker 2>But basically we say we got to do everything. You say,

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<v Speaker 2>What did you guys think about this episode? The flashback,

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<v Speaker 2>Carrol's frustration and killing two million people?

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<v Speaker 3>I think they said this was I it was fine,

0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:54.080
<v Speaker 3>It was fine. At this point is when I started

0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:57.960
<v Speaker 3>losing interest though. This is when it got slow. Yes, slow, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the great things again about Vince when he

0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:04.280
<v Speaker 2>bis these world is just so many different characters in them.

0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:04.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think them isolating her for two three

0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:11.959
<v Speaker 2>episodes and all the people that was the worst idea,

0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:14.439
<v Speaker 2>I feel like, because I didn't need to be alone

0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:15.000
<v Speaker 2>with her that long.

0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:18.040
<v Speaker 1>But I think we y'all are one hundred percent right.

0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Howard really spotlight what he was going through, and that's

0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:29.960
<v Speaker 1>the issue that he had, is like, we spent so

0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:32.359
<v Speaker 1>much time with her, we see her isolation, we start

0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:34.400
<v Speaker 1>to feel and understand what she's going through, but we're

0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:37.800
<v Speaker 1>also part of it too, Like we're like, shit, we

0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:39.320
<v Speaker 1>don't want to spend that much time with you either.

0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:41.960
<v Speaker 3>See why they left you damn.

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<v Speaker 1>Trying to fucking d mine give us something to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, so I think you know, of course

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<v Speaker 1>very much. So had to be intentional to really drive

0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:54.240
<v Speaker 1>on the point, which again I understand, it just doesn't

0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:55.800
<v Speaker 1>make for a good show after a while. It's just

0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:58.480
<v Speaker 1>like bro like, you know, which is why I think

0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:00.360
<v Speaker 1>they did a good job of adding the the guy,

0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:03.399
<v Speaker 1>but they took too long to get him into the

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<v Speaker 1>fold or everything while they spent time really breaking her down.

0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:10.080
<v Speaker 1>As we'll get to the Spanish guy. Yeah, but with

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<v Speaker 1>with this particular one, I think it really showed that

0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:18.640
<v Speaker 1>the how dangerous this hove mind concept could be when

0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:22.800
<v Speaker 1>they brought her dash with grenade, you know, and she

0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:27.240
<v Speaker 1>didn't realize like or they didn't realize that they had

0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:29.720
<v Speaker 1>that that that was dangerous. It was like, all right, well,

0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:31.560
<v Speaker 1>if you asked, we'll give it to you. And they

0:21:31.560 --> 0:21:34.720
<v Speaker 1>showed the flaws of being part of a hove mine

0:21:34.760 --> 0:21:40.480
<v Speaker 1>without any sort of guardrails in place. You know, they

0:21:40.520 --> 0:21:43.000
<v Speaker 1>could probably even though they know the dangers, they could

0:21:43.000 --> 0:21:44.840
<v Speaker 1>probably easily kill them. But I don't think they can

0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:46.640
<v Speaker 1>kill themselves. But it seemed like it.

0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:49.000
<v Speaker 3>Said they can't flick home on themselves or others.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So what happens if they realized that grenade is

0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:54.719
<v Speaker 1>harmful and can be used to kill, would they not

0:21:54.760 --> 0:21:56.960
<v Speaker 1>comply with the order? You know, I don't know, but

0:21:57.840 --> 0:21:59.919
<v Speaker 1>I was still on board with this episode. You know,

0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:02.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm still like waiting for things to develop, because I

0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:04.840
<v Speaker 1>thought more things were going to come around with this

0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:08.480
<v Speaker 1>other group that are out there, these these mutants that

0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:11.960
<v Speaker 1>they were at some point would realize that their way

0:22:12.000 --> 0:22:13.600
<v Speaker 1>is in the right way, and they were perform some

0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:18.359
<v Speaker 1>sort of rebellion ro I will say you, yeah, my

0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:19.800
<v Speaker 1>mom wasn't going there.

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<v Speaker 4>I just took the show for what it was and

0:22:24.320 --> 0:22:27.440
<v Speaker 4>just was just like just you know, waiting it out

0:22:28.040 --> 0:22:31.000
<v Speaker 4>with them. I like, I can, I can appreciate this

0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:34.159
<v Speaker 4>type of storytelling if it's slow or whatever, because I

0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:37.040
<v Speaker 4>think it you're you're meant to feel kind of like

0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:39.159
<v Speaker 4>what she's going through in a sense.

0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:43.000
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't have a problem sitting in that. Again,

0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I just found it interesting.

0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:47.359
<v Speaker 4>I'm just waiting for them to just change up or

0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:50.879
<v Speaker 4>switch up, and they just never do. They stay consistent

0:22:51.040 --> 0:22:55.320
<v Speaker 4>on their mission. But yeah, like Kim was saying, like, yeah,

0:22:55.359 --> 0:22:57.320
<v Speaker 4>it just sets it sets you up for later, like

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<v Speaker 4>to the breakdown, right, and you feel it. To me,

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<v Speaker 4>you feel it more because you you kind of go

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<v Speaker 4>through these little mundane moments with her and see her

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<v Speaker 4>at first being okay with being by herself being alone,

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<v Speaker 4>like fuck it, I'll just learned.

0:23:12.040 --> 0:23:12.720
<v Speaker 3>Life this way.

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<v Speaker 4>But it shows that you know, we need human connection,

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<v Speaker 4>we need we need these things, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>So for her not to have that, it'll break down the.

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<v Speaker 4>Most headstrong person in the world, you know what I'm

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<v Speaker 4>saying to you know, then't want some sort of interaction.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, and they were trying to say that

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<v Speaker 1>she is a miserable, miserable person, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, I think that's what irritated me about

0:23:40.080 --> 0:23:43.840
<v Speaker 2>her the most, is she was making herself more miserable

0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:46.639
<v Speaker 2>by just focusing on this. But I do agree with

0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:48.320
<v Speaker 2>what you two are saying, because at first, when I'm

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<v Speaker 2>watching it, I'm thinking, like, man, i'ld have been going

0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:51.720
<v Speaker 2>to do this and going to do that, and going

0:23:51.800 --> 0:23:54.160
<v Speaker 2>all these places and doing all these things. But then

0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:57.880
<v Speaker 2>they really honed in on but you still just by yourself, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well she's the person that don't like people that

0:24:02.080 --> 0:24:05.199
<v Speaker 1>no longer have people. It's just like so you kind

0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:09.240
<v Speaker 1>of get your wish, but you you needed people around.

0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:11.679
<v Speaker 3>I think she would have been fine if her partner

0:24:11.760 --> 0:24:12.399
<v Speaker 3>was still around.

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:13.520
<v Speaker 1>I think she would have been.

0:24:13.560 --> 0:24:15.440
<v Speaker 2>Which is why she turned later to that, like she

0:24:15.520 --> 0:24:17.879
<v Speaker 2>started looking at their girls, like what I.

0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Was fucked up by them, which was manipulative to to

0:24:20.840 --> 0:24:25.720
<v Speaker 1>send somebody that looks exactly or similar to her your

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<v Speaker 1>dream essentially.

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<v Speaker 4>But see, they thought they were trying to make her

0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:31.720
<v Speaker 4>happy though, but it didn't look like her I don't know.

0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:35.520
<v Speaker 3>Character from the book, but they were trying to make

0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:35.960
<v Speaker 3>her happy.

0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Though. She's like, we're sorry if this is not what

0:24:37.880 --> 0:24:39.040
<v Speaker 1>you think that's what they were doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm with Ken. This is manipulation's toxic nice niceness.

0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:45.639
<v Speaker 3>That's why you like it so large. But it's like, now,

0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:47.320
<v Speaker 3>I think they were trying to like, how can.

0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:50.120
<v Speaker 2>We get her to open up to us? Manipulation?

0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:52.920
<v Speaker 3>This manipulation right, it's like, how can we get her

0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:55.040
<v Speaker 3>to join us? Is more so what I think they

0:24:55.040 --> 0:24:56.600
<v Speaker 3>were doing. For sure.

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<v Speaker 4>I think y'all are y'all are right. But I do

0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:04.000
<v Speaker 4>like the writing of it because one could be like, oh.

0:25:03.920 --> 0:25:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Well.

0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:08.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:11.159
<v Speaker 2>We had these little flashes of the guy that was

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:13.960
<v Speaker 2>I guess he was.

0:25:13.480 --> 0:25:15.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't know where he was, but he could have

0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:17.160
<v Speaker 3>stayed there, He should have stayed there.

0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:20.119
<v Speaker 2>But he's doing this radio signal thing and he's getting

0:25:20.119 --> 0:25:20.960
<v Speaker 2>these feedback.

0:25:21.000 --> 0:25:22.480
<v Speaker 3>Did that interest you guys at all?

0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:29.800
<v Speaker 1>No? No, because I'm like, okay, that'll be later. You know,

0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:31.800
<v Speaker 1>you're just giving us, you know, just a little bit

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:33.600
<v Speaker 1>like who is that guy? What is he doing?

0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:38.160
<v Speaker 4>I did think it was interesting that he was more

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:40.080
<v Speaker 4>relentless than Carol.

0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:44.639
<v Speaker 2>I think he was, And it started to seem obvious

0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:46.720
<v Speaker 2>where they were gonna go with him. He's eventually gonna

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:47.320
<v Speaker 2>go meet Carrol.

0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Wh why? I think it was also stupid about him,

0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:54.360
<v Speaker 1>like here's another person that's not part of the high mind,

0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:56.360
<v Speaker 1>that's just like you, and you don't want to talk

0:25:56.400 --> 0:25:56.919
<v Speaker 1>to them. Why not?

0:25:57.000 --> 0:25:58.440
<v Speaker 3>He thought she didn't know. He didn't.

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:02.480
<v Speaker 2>He thought she told him, but he thought everybody had switched.

0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:03.520
<v Speaker 3>It was into the tape.

0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:06.119
<v Speaker 2>He hadn't even talked to anyone and realized that he

0:26:06.119 --> 0:26:07.560
<v Speaker 2>he thought he was the only person left.

0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:10.919
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because he didn't know it was twelve or thirteen

0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:12.679
<v Speaker 4>high verymen. He was he didn't know any of that

0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:14.120
<v Speaker 4>because he didn't. He ain't fuck with them.

0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 2>At all, nobody because even that lady was his mom, right,

0:26:16.080 --> 0:26:17.520
<v Speaker 2>they kept drop that was his mom.

0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:19.720
<v Speaker 3>He was like, He's like, yeah, my mom was a piece,

0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:21.399
<v Speaker 3>like it was a bitch or something. He said, Like

0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 3>I was like, damn, is that the episode we're on?

0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:27.760
<v Speaker 2>We're on episode four, which is pleased Carol. Here, Carol

0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:31.639
<v Speaker 2>seeks answers whether the joining is reversible. She tests the

0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:35.760
<v Speaker 2>truth serum on Zosa to uncover deeper truths, but the

0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:39.639
<v Speaker 2>others resist and complications escalate from there. What did you

0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:41.160
<v Speaker 2>think about her method to trying to get the truth

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:43.240
<v Speaker 2>out of her by Carol's method.

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 3>It made it made sense. It was kind of foul

0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:48.920
<v Speaker 3>because she was all fucked up in the hospital bed,

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:51.240
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, I'd have done the same thing at this point,

0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:54.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm not fucking loyal to you yet, so yeah, I'm

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:56.040
<v Speaker 3>a drug you and get you to tell me the truth.

0:26:56.600 --> 0:26:57.800
<v Speaker 3>I was surprised at that work.

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:00.240
<v Speaker 1>Why.

0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:02.679
<v Speaker 2>It just seemed like it it kind of did it

0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 2>really caught herself right?

0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:06.240
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, and then and then the high mind came

0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:07.720
<v Speaker 4>when they realized what was happening.

0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:10.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it would have worked if they wouldn't have showed up.

0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 2>You had done the same thing.

0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:13.159
<v Speaker 3>You.

0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, the other question is did they feel threatened by

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:20.639
<v Speaker 1>what was going on and that's why they intervened. I

0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:22.560
<v Speaker 1>think that was great, And I'm still into the show

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 1>because I'm like, now we're getting somewhere. Now we're going

0:27:24.680 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 1>to start getting some answers to what's going on, and

0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:29.840
<v Speaker 1>they just wropped the ball from here. But uh, this

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:32.600
<v Speaker 1>was this was a good episode. And the way they

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:36.880
<v Speaker 1>walked up all still polite and pleasant and ship like that,

0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:41.920
<v Speaker 1>but still also look threatening and you know, uh, menacing

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 1>in this weird sort of way. It was just like, man,

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:48.200
<v Speaker 1>what the hell is going on? But they were like, man, hey,

0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 1>you don't win too goddamn far.

0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:53.159
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. They didn't look

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 4>as polite as time. They looked concerned at time, like

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:57.400
<v Speaker 4>they didn't look as they wore.

0:27:58.520 --> 0:27:58.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:05.480
<v Speaker 1>It was a little bit of stop Carrol stop. Yeah,

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 1>but they just left like her.

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:12.720
<v Speaker 3>They packed up everything, cut the lights out, was dope.

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 1>That was the whole.

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:20.679
<v Speaker 2>Like everything that was interesting, it was it was. It

0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:22.960
<v Speaker 2>was interesting in the storytelling aspect, But I don't think

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:26.080
<v Speaker 2>that the way that they played it out it wasn't interesting,

0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:27.879
<v Speaker 2>because then that's when we get all this time with

0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 2>her a long when she's just not doing anything. They

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:32.120
<v Speaker 2>it could have been more interesting.

0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:34.640
<v Speaker 3>I think, See, this is the yeah I'm with you,

0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying I'm right with you. This is like, bro,

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 3>I want to speak down the hill. But this is

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 3>also when I was like, oh, I see what's going

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 3>on with with Carol and why she changed her mind?

0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 3>What happened so is this is this the episode where

0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 3>Zosha comes back or is that the next one?

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Well, so I think it's what it's non total, it's

0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 1>nine episode so five six because she finds the food.

0:28:57.400 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, Spike, you hoston, no go ahead, because I

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:03.040
<v Speaker 1>think these next three are kind of all this together.

0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the next three pretty much done. Happens. She finds

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 2>out what their nutrient source is with that milk, with

0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 2>the human in there, the wolves, the.

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:16.840
<v Speaker 3>Wolves I didn't understands. I didn't give a fuck about either,

0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 3>but the human eating human parts. I was like, Okay,

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 3>now we're gonna go somewhere. Psych didn't.

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:23.160
<v Speaker 2>It didn't.

0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 3>It went fucking nowhere. It went fucking nowhere.

0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:29.239
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was a lot more sinister. Yeah, it

0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 2>was just like some normal stuff.

0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:33.040
<v Speaker 4>And then so what I liked that they had an

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 4>answer for that too. Yeah, they had seen everything of

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:37.000
<v Speaker 4>all things.

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was.

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Funny it it went nowhere. And I was with you guys,

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 1>are like, oh, ship, we're about to get some ship

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:49.120
<v Speaker 1>because it easily it was obviously a body in there

0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 1>or something. But they made it seem like the way

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 1>they did it was a not moral way, but it

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 1>was the best way they can do it without violating

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:02.640
<v Speaker 1>the rules.

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so they would never let you, will never make

0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 4>you injustice if it's it's totally up to you.

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 1>But she would need to if she's part of the

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 1>hog mind in order to live. Yeah, she's part of

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 1>high mind. But now she's herself, right.

0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:20.479
<v Speaker 4>So Yeah, I like this part because I feel like,

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 4>I won't say troupe, but I feel like that's what

0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 4>we would expect, right, expect like, oh, yeah, they're eating

0:30:24.880 --> 0:30:26.880
<v Speaker 4>people whateverever. So the fact that they were able to

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:29.440
<v Speaker 4>even debunk that as well, I was like, damn, they

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 4>are really writing.

0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 2>The ship out this story to me, Yeah, that was

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:33.440
<v Speaker 2>very detailed.

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're only eating people that die, yeah, you know,

0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:38.880
<v Speaker 1>from natural cause or whatever the causes are. But the

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:41.800
<v Speaker 1>fact that you can't even pick apple.

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 2>It can't harm any living things crazy, that's stupid.

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:49.360
<v Speaker 4>The argument that I'm sure he has with people the

0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:53.120
<v Speaker 4>whole like plants are living all of that stuff, like,

0:30:53.600 --> 0:30:56.240
<v Speaker 4>you know, So they even tackled that, That's what I'm saying,

0:30:56.280 --> 0:30:59.280
<v Speaker 4>Like they were tackling a lot of things that people say,

0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 4>and I'm just like, oh, they're really right there. I

0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 4>thought they were writing their ass off on this personally.

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 1>But I think the thing is like, because now I

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:10.880
<v Speaker 1>got questions about this, like, how have you survived up

0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 1>to this point? Were you? Because you're what some type

0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 1>of parasite that needs a human host, but the human

0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:19.920
<v Speaker 1>holes or the host they don't necessarily have to be

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 1>human needs sustenance in order to stay alive. And if

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 1>you don't harm anything, what have you done outside of

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:28.600
<v Speaker 1>this point?

0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 4>That's why they said that the resources are limited, which

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:33.840
<v Speaker 4>is why they only last for like ten years.

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:37.200
<v Speaker 3>They said they only live like ten more years. Yeah,

0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 3>but that just seemed that just seemed dumb because it

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 3>was like, Okay, I get you can't harm anything, but

0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 3>what if you're what if you're discussing the idea of

0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 3>waste and apple will eventually just fall off the tree

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 3>and rot it falls off? Is that what they said?

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:57.320
<v Speaker 1>They just can't pick it, but they can follow, But

0:31:57.400 --> 0:32:01.320
<v Speaker 1>it's still still stupid. So an apple that falls off

0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 1>a tree.

0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 2>Is no longer living that Yeah, yes, it's not a

0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:05.520
<v Speaker 2>text stid is.

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 1>That what I'm saying? So, but think about before they

0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 1>in fact that the humans though, well, yeah, was this

0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 1>thing did it? Like? We don't know anything about it?

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 1>There to come out of space. Was it created? So

0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Speaker 1>they came from where they.

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:18.880
<v Speaker 3>Came out of space. Remember, at the very beginning of

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:21.520
<v Speaker 3>the show, the guy was saying like, oh, we're getting

0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 3>a that's what the signal from five hundred light years away.

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 3>So what did you do there? Maybe they didn't need sustenance.

0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 3>It only needs sustenance because it's joining with the human unties.

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:32.840
<v Speaker 2>They said that. They did say that they only need

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:34.880
<v Speaker 2>nutrition because there is a human form.

0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 4>That's what they're saying. It's not technically a virus virus.

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:40.880
<v Speaker 4>It's like just way host to you, like a host

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 4>or something like that.

0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 1>And why the hell are you in the human body?

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Then if you.

0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Don't, they said, they did all of it. Since they

0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:49.120
<v Speaker 2>have mind, they get all of the research or whatever

0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:50.920
<v Speaker 2>may be, and this was the best way that they

0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 2>could sustain their population.

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 3>It's going to take over a human body and doing

0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:58.840
<v Speaker 3>it that stupid? Agree, But did you.

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but because you're alien creature that comes to Earth,

0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 1>it's not a creature. You're an alien and you occupy

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 1>this body. But wherever you came from you didn't need it.

0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:17.960
<v Speaker 1>So your only way of surviving on Earth is to

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 1>occupy a body, but you have a set of rules.

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:25.520
<v Speaker 1>So then I have questions about like wherever planet or

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:28.360
<v Speaker 1>wherever you came from, you didn't need that, Like, I

0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I'm just now I'm going down all this

0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 1>rabbit hole of all these different sort of questions about it. Yeah,

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 1>and we haven't gotten the rules or the reasons why

0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't make sense.

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 2>I think it's unacceptable from nine episodes not to have

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:45.560
<v Speaker 2>the answers, like at least a premise of it. Jesus,

0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Like we just went through the whole thing. I just

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:49.000
<v Speaker 2>told us, Okay, this is what's going on. But to

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 2>give us any answer, that's because you're.

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Putting off like we are a non violent entity and

0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:58.200
<v Speaker 1>we've always been this way and that is our rules.

0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:05.560
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know. Yeah, I understanding them wanting to conserve.

0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:10.799
<v Speaker 4>Humans, like not harming them not you know, because then

0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:14.360
<v Speaker 4>they would live longer because you know, you're protecting that

0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:16.440
<v Speaker 4>human body to those.

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:19.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it's gonna die in ten years, whereas the

0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:21.080
<v Speaker 3>human body would have lived longer than that. So you

0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:22.160
<v Speaker 3>really made things worse.

0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 1>And is the enron? Is the earth environment not conducive

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:28.400
<v Speaker 1>to their regular Yeah, regular life form.

0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was just because they couldn't eat, so

0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:31.759
<v Speaker 3>they were I thought it was because, like they were,

0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:34.840
<v Speaker 3>they were figuring out that if we continue eating the

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:37.719
<v Speaker 3>way we are, we're not gonna get get enough nutrients

0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 3>to keep because they also don't procreate, so they're not

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:45.239
<v Speaker 3>gonna have children. What is this? So yeah, so I

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:47.240
<v Speaker 3>think they're they're like, well, if we if we can't

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 3>pick fruit, we can't eat it off the ground. We're

0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:52.399
<v Speaker 3>factoring in if we keep doing that, we're only gonna

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:55.360
<v Speaker 3>last ten years because we don't have enough food. They

0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 3>said they didn't procreate. I'm pretty sure they said that.

0:34:58.080 --> 0:35:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I and the human them, I don't think they'll be

0:35:00.920 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 1>able to procreate.

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:03.120
<v Speaker 2>But I was just so, what if they, like the

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:04.719
<v Speaker 2>guy that had all the girls, what if he had

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:06.359
<v Speaker 2>sex with one of them and get them pregnant, they

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be able to have a baby because of the

0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:13.760
<v Speaker 2>natural human body functions still work. I'm assumed, Well, then

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:17.719
<v Speaker 2>pro create then, because it's what a lot of them, right,

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:20.839
<v Speaker 2>So it's safe to assume that, you know.

0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:22.640
<v Speaker 1>A lot of them came here.

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:25.600
<v Speaker 3>It's all I thought it was all one. It's just

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 3>no there, they're all one being. So it's not like

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:31.760
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of them came and they infected other bodies.

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was everything is one being, That's what

0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:35.879
<v Speaker 3>I thought.

0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 2>She was explaining that the massage thing. She was like,

0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:39.560
<v Speaker 2>we all share the same feeling.

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:41.879
<v Speaker 1>Like, no, I guess they all share that.

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:43.640
<v Speaker 2>But but you said, it's just one individual thing.

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Don't remember when it got out of whatever? Because that

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:51.400
<v Speaker 1>thing it got out of that and then she infected

0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:53.840
<v Speaker 1>another person a person?

0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:56.840
<v Speaker 3>Right, what thing are you talking about?

0:35:57.160 --> 0:36:00.480
<v Speaker 1>So when they were running the experiments on it in

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:04.719
<v Speaker 1>the lab and it broke out of the lab and

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 1>infected the first person.

0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:07.399
<v Speaker 3>Why don't I remember that?

0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:07.960
<v Speaker 2>What lab?

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:12.440
<v Speaker 1>Wherever they were at in some wherever because this at

0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 1>the beginning, this in the very first episode, and infected

0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:19.960
<v Speaker 1>one of the scientists, and I forgot how it got out,

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:24.800
<v Speaker 1>but infected one of the scientists, and then she the scientists,

0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 1>infected the other scientists by kissing them. Oh I do

0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 1>so are we're saying that that the the way that

0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:39.200
<v Speaker 1>called zero patient zero is the one that's controlling everything.

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:39.959
<v Speaker 3>That's how I.

0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Took it, and that, oh okay.

0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:44.600
<v Speaker 3>That's how I took it. The only one alien came

0:36:44.680 --> 0:36:48.319
<v Speaker 3>to Earth, and that one alien was infecting people one

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:50.640
<v Speaker 3>by one and then they're all tied to a hive mind.

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:52.040
<v Speaker 3>That's how I understood it.

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:55.879
<v Speaker 1>But so it's not okay, okay, But.

0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:59.319
<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's one hundred thousand of them came to Earth

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:00.440
<v Speaker 3>and they're all I don't know.

0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 1>That's what I was starting to think. But that's even

0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:06.120
<v Speaker 1>crazy if it's one person that's controlling all of them.

0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:08.840
<v Speaker 1>There's one alienk controlling all of them, so that would

0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:10.640
<v Speaker 1>start to answer some questions.

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<v Speaker 3>per Second. Episode six is HDP.

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<v Speaker 2>This is when Carol goes to Vegas and she learns

0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:55.279
<v Speaker 2>to disturbing truths, like we said about the diet and

0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:58.840
<v Speaker 2>the other's existence. Did y'all like the other dude in Vegas,

0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:00.719
<v Speaker 2>the James Bond will skip. Was he getting on your

0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 2>nerves with your annoying It was a good character when

0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:05.839
<v Speaker 2>they were playing poke at the table. Don't break character,

0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:06.839
<v Speaker 2>the brown guy.

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:11.280
<v Speaker 3>No, It's like, man, I mean, it was an interesting

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:13.600
<v Speaker 3>thing because I can see that's what a lot of

0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 3>men would do. But I just at this point I

0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 3>didn't care anymore. I was just like, I don't I

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:19.880
<v Speaker 3>don't care about any of this.

0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:26.719
<v Speaker 1>After she looked into that thing and saw what I

0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:28.880
<v Speaker 1>guess what it ended up being a body, I was like,

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:30.560
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm gonna just wait. I tapped out

0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:34.000
<v Speaker 1>at that point, so I was out of there. So

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:36.120
<v Speaker 1>thank god I was, because oh my.

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:38.719
<v Speaker 2>God, bro, that's so I ran it because that's the

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:41.560
<v Speaker 2>exact place I stopped too. I'm not watching this. No

0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:44.720
<v Speaker 2>move to this end like no, because we weren't doing

0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:49.040
<v Speaker 2>ship you left. It were like, bro, come on, I

0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:51.000
<v Speaker 2>would have wanted to see what Time would do in Vegas,

0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:52.720
<v Speaker 2>just to see what he was up to. That would

0:38:52.719 --> 0:38:55.520
<v Speaker 2>have been way entertaining than Carroll trying to figure this out.

0:38:55.680 --> 0:38:58.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this whole thing with him, I think I think

0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:02.800
<v Speaker 1>they could have used him more, you know, to break

0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:06.160
<v Speaker 1>up the monotony of her just always just walking around,

0:39:06.239 --> 0:39:09.720
<v Speaker 1>not saying it, not doing ship. But but no, it wasn't.

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:12.840
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't. I'm with Mike. You definitely would see people

0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:16.920
<v Speaker 1>doing some wild ship like this. He had a plane,

0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:20.960
<v Speaker 1>he had all kind of ship man week.

0:39:22.120 --> 0:39:26.960
<v Speaker 2>It was funny. Also in this episode, Minosius, the guy

0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:29.359
<v Speaker 2>who were talking about with the radio, he starts making

0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:32.320
<v Speaker 2>his way towards Caro and he's insistent that he doesn't

0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:37.320
<v Speaker 2>want any help in that he trucks through the Amazon jungle.

0:39:37.440 --> 0:39:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Bro, I looked that place up.

0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:41.600
<v Speaker 3>The clipped.

0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:45.480
<v Speaker 2>It's crazy because you can't go it's nothing's there but

0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:50.319
<v Speaker 2>like cartil and jungle roads or nothing.

0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:53.239
<v Speaker 3>That's why it was fucking irritating, stupid because it's so

0:39:53.400 --> 0:39:58.080
<v Speaker 3>big and it's like just let them take you. Yeah,

0:39:58.440 --> 0:40:00.200
<v Speaker 3>I know he doesn't trust them and all that, but

0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:02.120
<v Speaker 3>it was just like, Bro, you're seriously gonna walk through this.

0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Jungle three days? I think I read it. It would

0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:05.960
<v Speaker 1>take to walk that whole thing.

0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:09.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's not traveled, so it's dense and like

0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:11.520
<v Speaker 2>it ain't no paths or anything like that. That was

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:13.400
<v Speaker 2>the only time I said, like, oh, ship in this

0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:14.520
<v Speaker 2>when he that.

0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:18.279
<v Speaker 3>Tree, that ship that was of course you did that,

0:40:18.480 --> 0:40:21.080
<v Speaker 3>of course because she just said they said something about

0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:23.920
<v Speaker 3>the fucking spikes or whatever in there. Of course you

0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:25.719
<v Speaker 3>fall into the tree. It's like, all right, man, this

0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:26.680
<v Speaker 3>isn't great writing to me.

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:30.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I did like the dangers of that

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:33.160
<v Speaker 1>because I didn't know about that place, so that whole

0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:34.440
<v Speaker 1>thing was interesting.

0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:36.400
<v Speaker 2>That was that was smiling.

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:37.239
<v Speaker 3>I was thinking.

0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:38.719
<v Speaker 4>I was like when they were saying, I was like, damn,

0:40:38.760 --> 0:40:40.800
<v Speaker 4>you can't. Yeah, I ain't never hear nobody driving to

0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:43.200
<v Speaker 4>fucking up South America.

0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:46.439
<v Speaker 1>Was right there. It was you should have just taken them.

0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:48.040
<v Speaker 1>But you know, but it's.

0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:49.839
<v Speaker 4>Only because of that one part that you can't drive

0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:51.640
<v Speaker 4>to South America. It's just because of that one.

0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:53.520
<v Speaker 2>And they tried to build there, they said they tried

0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:54.960
<v Speaker 2>to build there before. They just could not.

0:40:56.760 --> 0:40:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Think that's interesting and that tree is real. I was like,

0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:02.919
<v Speaker 1>that fucking tree is real, bro.

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:03.520
<v Speaker 3>You know what.

0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:06.080
<v Speaker 4>It reminds me of like Life of Pie. Remember that, y'all.

0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:08.560
<v Speaker 4>I've seen that, and like, how oh that ship is real?

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 4>Like some of that stuff.

0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:10.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:14.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so he of course gets himself. Like we said

0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:16.440
<v Speaker 2>about the tree, he has to go to the hospital

0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:18.719
<v Speaker 2>that tree and he pays for it. That he's just

0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:21.040
<v Speaker 2>an episode seven the Gap, and this is where Carol

0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:23.239
<v Speaker 2>is struggling with depression. Where the hell he get all

0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:25.920
<v Speaker 2>this money from? He wrote, I owe you a nigga

0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:29.359
<v Speaker 2>can be paid. He wrote down eye such and money.

0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:29.719
<v Speaker 3>At first.

0:41:29.960 --> 0:41:32.440
<v Speaker 1>He's putting money on people's vehicles at first, but that

0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:33.200
<v Speaker 1>was for gas.

0:41:33.280 --> 0:41:37.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this was like seven thousand dollars he said. Yeah,

0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:38.040
<v Speaker 3>they said.

0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:41.600
<v Speaker 2>He was like, I owe you eye such and such.

0:41:41.680 --> 0:41:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Owe you seven thousand such and such dollar. That's what

0:41:43.920 --> 0:41:44.840
<v Speaker 2>he wrote at the bottom.

0:41:44.560 --> 0:41:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Of the paper. Mm hmm. This was the one where

0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:48.360
<v Speaker 1>they broke Carol.

0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:51.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she was struggling with depression. Fireworks seemed to help.

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:54.000
<v Speaker 2>She left the one file right by her head for

0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:56.359
<v Speaker 2>some reason, and then she goes to get the paint

0:41:56.400 --> 0:41:59.000
<v Speaker 2>and she says, come back, what y'all thin?

0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:03.719
<v Speaker 1>So marknestion to you guys, is was this her asking? Well,

0:42:03.800 --> 0:42:06.799
<v Speaker 1>I guess we've showing her emotional response to it, but

0:42:06.840 --> 0:42:09.960
<v Speaker 1>it seemed like I was wondering if she did this

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 1>to get more information on them, or if she really broke.

0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:18.560
<v Speaker 2>I thought she genuinely broke. She was like I think

0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:21.520
<v Speaker 2>she was just genuinely lonely, like it just was subbering

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:23.920
<v Speaker 2>from Cavin Peeve and just like being by herself.

0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:27.719
<v Speaker 1>You don't think she was manipulating them.

0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:32.160
<v Speaker 2>Once they got there. I think that she understood she

0:42:32.200 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 2>could get information in a different way than she was

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:36.320
<v Speaker 2>trying to at first, so she started kind of like

0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:39.719
<v Speaker 2>leaning into that. But I think originally the comeback message

0:42:39.760 --> 0:42:42.040
<v Speaker 2>was I just need to be around some people. Then

0:42:42.080 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 2>when she started being more open to the girl and

0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:48.080
<v Speaker 2>she started learning stuff like just through random conversation, I

0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:50.359
<v Speaker 2>think it became more poignant that she wanted to learn more.

0:42:51.200 --> 0:42:52.440
<v Speaker 1>I think it was more about the girl.

0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:56.040
<v Speaker 4>She didn't care because, like you said earlier, she don't

0:42:56.080 --> 0:42:57.400
<v Speaker 4>care about being around people.

0:42:57.440 --> 0:42:59.239
<v Speaker 3>I think it just she wants a companion.

0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:02.640
<v Speaker 4>But in order to get that companion, everybody has to

0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:05.520
<v Speaker 4>come back, and she's willing to sacrifice everybody coming back

0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 4>just to be able to get that one companion.

0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:14.279
<v Speaker 3>It's what I thought, what'd you think I think she's

0:43:14.280 --> 0:43:19.160
<v Speaker 3>being drugged. I think she's being drugged, and I think

0:43:19.239 --> 0:43:24.080
<v Speaker 3>that's that's why because she wouldn't eat their food. She

0:43:24.160 --> 0:43:28.240
<v Speaker 3>was making her own food. Once she gets all dressed

0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:30.560
<v Speaker 3>up and she goes out for that night on the

0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:33.760
<v Speaker 3>town by herself and she eats the food they made.

0:43:34.480 --> 0:43:36.960
<v Speaker 3>It seems like that's when the shift started. So I

0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:39.719
<v Speaker 3>started thinking when you look back at the earlier episodes,

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:44.120
<v Speaker 3>Remember they kept focusing on the fact that that Columbian

0:43:44.160 --> 0:43:47.760
<v Speaker 3>guy would not eat their food. Whenever they would bring food,

0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:50.760
<v Speaker 3>he kept pushing it over. I think that there's something

0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:53.600
<v Speaker 3>in the food. Everybody else is eating the food and

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:56.640
<v Speaker 3>drinking the drinks, and I think that whatever is in

0:43:56.680 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 3>that food is placating those people and making them more

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:04.399
<v Speaker 3>susceptible to accepting. These people in Carol refused to eat

0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:08.040
<v Speaker 3>it until this episode. So I was like, Oh, so

0:44:08.120 --> 0:44:10.680
<v Speaker 3>there's something in this food that's making them Because I

0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:14.040
<v Speaker 3>was like, why is he so like the guy so defiant,

0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:17.080
<v Speaker 3>And then when they showed the guy being the Manudo's guy,

0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:19.960
<v Speaker 3>whatever his name is, And then when they showed the

0:44:20.680 --> 0:44:24.920
<v Speaker 3>pimp dude, I was like, Oh, he's just doing whatever.

0:44:25.000 --> 0:44:27.680
<v Speaker 3>He's drinking all the drinks they make. Because they kept

0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:31.279
<v Speaker 3>focusing on minute shit. They kept focusing on, like the

0:44:31.320 --> 0:44:34.000
<v Speaker 3>alien people making the drinks and then bringing it over

0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:36.360
<v Speaker 3>and they would focus on the drink being put on

0:44:36.400 --> 0:44:40.560
<v Speaker 3>the table. So I think that they were drugging the

0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:45.400
<v Speaker 3>drinks and it's some kind of like, you know, something

0:44:45.440 --> 0:44:49.080
<v Speaker 3>in the in the drinks to make them more comfortable

0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:51.440
<v Speaker 3>being part of this hive mind. So yeah, it was

0:44:51.480 --> 0:44:56.279
<v Speaker 3>probably loneliness too, and it was partly she kind of

0:44:56.320 --> 0:45:00.319
<v Speaker 3>has like a weird crush on this girl. But the

0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:03.120
<v Speaker 3>way she broke down, I was like, ah, nah, there's

0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:04.239
<v Speaker 3>something in that fucking food.

0:45:04.640 --> 0:45:06.520
<v Speaker 2>Do you think she just missed the girl reminded her

0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:07.879
<v Speaker 2>of her wife and she missed her.

0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:09.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't think the girl reminded her of her wife,

0:45:09.560 --> 0:45:11.239
<v Speaker 3>because she didn't look nothing like her wife, she didn't

0:45:11.239 --> 0:45:13.720
<v Speaker 3>act nothing like her wife. I think that she wanted

0:45:14.160 --> 0:45:18.480
<v Speaker 3>a companionship, of course, because she's been alone. But I

0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:22.000
<v Speaker 3>think that her being alone and actively eating whatever the

0:45:22.000 --> 0:45:25.560
<v Speaker 3>fuck they were giving her made her change a bit,

0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:28.160
<v Speaker 3>especially in the next episode, because then we see she's

0:45:28.360 --> 0:45:29.759
<v Speaker 3>really just kind of going all in.

0:45:30.040 --> 0:45:32.560
<v Speaker 2>Based on Vince's history that that is a really good

0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:35.279
<v Speaker 2>point because he did that twice in Breaking Back. Well,

0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:37.040
<v Speaker 2>he would show something and you're like, how fuck are

0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:39.359
<v Speaker 2>you showing this plant out of nowhere and then walk

0:45:39.440 --> 0:45:41.920
<v Speaker 2>used a plant to kill somebody. Well, they would show

0:45:41.960 --> 0:45:44.759
<v Speaker 2>the lady doing a little Splendor packet and Walt had

0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:46.800
<v Speaker 2>snuck some poison in the Splendor packet after she was

0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:48.640
<v Speaker 2>drunk it. So that makes sense what you're saying, because

0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:49.440
<v Speaker 2>he definitely uses it.

0:45:51.080 --> 0:45:59.279
<v Speaker 1>Huh, question for you for everybody? I guess would that

0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:00.600
<v Speaker 1>violate the rules though?

0:46:01.320 --> 0:46:04.719
<v Speaker 3>M because they think that it's toxic niceness. They think that.

0:46:05.760 --> 0:46:08.799
<v Speaker 2>Drug her being them, being one of them is better

0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:09.239
<v Speaker 2>than her being.

0:46:09.280 --> 0:46:15.640
<v Speaker 1>But drugging someone, you're intentionally alternating their mind state to

0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:20.000
<v Speaker 1>go along with your wishes them removes Yeah, but at

0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:23.160
<v Speaker 1>that point, now for the people that left, they need

0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:24.879
<v Speaker 1>their consent because they're immon.

0:46:25.239 --> 0:46:27.759
<v Speaker 3>But they lied about that. They remember that because when

0:46:27.760 --> 0:46:31.319
<v Speaker 3>we see at the end they didn't really, So that

0:46:31.520 --> 0:46:34.560
<v Speaker 3>last episode makes you question if they've been lying about

0:46:34.560 --> 0:46:37.279
<v Speaker 3>shit the whole fucking time or just like stretching the

0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:40.160
<v Speaker 3>truth or just like gaslighting into making you think like, oh,

0:46:40.200 --> 0:46:42.120
<v Speaker 3>this is what we meant, but you just kind of

0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:45.520
<v Speaker 3>took it that way. So yeah, like everything that they're

0:46:45.560 --> 0:46:49.000
<v Speaker 3>doing to me is just like we think we know

0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:51.759
<v Speaker 3>what's best for you. And if you aren't going to

0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:53.480
<v Speaker 3>agree with what we want to do, we're going to

0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:55.440
<v Speaker 3>trick you into agreeing with what we want you to do.

0:46:56.280 --> 0:47:00.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that when she went to the dinner and

0:47:00.680 --> 0:47:03.080
<v Speaker 1>she looked around and there was nobody there, she got

0:47:03.160 --> 0:47:06.839
<v Speaker 1>dressed up, she probably remember what life was like when

0:47:07.080 --> 0:47:10.400
<v Speaker 1>everybody was there, and I think that's when she started

0:47:10.440 --> 0:47:14.279
<v Speaker 1>to break and then cracked and asked them to come back.

0:47:14.320 --> 0:47:15.640
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, what the fuck is she doing with

0:47:15.719 --> 0:47:19.520
<v Speaker 1>the paint? Uh? And I was, yeah when she painted,

0:47:21.200 --> 0:47:23.440
<v Speaker 1>I was, but I ain't. I'm not gonna lie. I

0:47:23.480 --> 0:47:26.320
<v Speaker 1>was disappointed when she I was like, bruh, you broke.

0:47:26.520 --> 0:47:31.080
<v Speaker 1>She broke. Yeah, I'm like, what you're supposed to be like,

0:47:31.080 --> 0:47:34.520
<v Speaker 1>like you're fighting against them, you kill people, you're angry,

0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:38.960
<v Speaker 1>you're mad at everybody. But it's isolationism, Like she's just

0:47:39.120 --> 0:47:43.239
<v Speaker 1>completely isolated. The only thing she got are wolves and

0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:47.880
<v Speaker 1>fireworks and fireworks and singing songs to herself.

0:47:48.440 --> 0:47:51.360
<v Speaker 3>Wait, why were the why were the wolves alive?

0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:55.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, they couldn't do animals, remember, because I.

0:47:55.440 --> 0:47:56.879
<v Speaker 3>Thought all the animals died too.

0:47:57.320 --> 0:48:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Could remember she took him when oh, that's right, that's right.

0:48:01.000 --> 0:48:03.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm never mind I just I'm confusing that with the

0:48:03.120 --> 0:48:06.760
<v Speaker 3>movie where they were sleeping at with all the beds

0:48:06.760 --> 0:48:08.839
<v Speaker 3>where there was a dog there. I was confusing that

0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:11.480
<v Speaker 3>with with We Bear the Dad that I just watched.

0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:13.120
<v Speaker 3>That was the rule in that movie.

0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:17.080
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, speaking of the animals, y'all see they lie about

0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:21.719
<v Speaker 2>that because she was like, y'all take pits too, was like, well,

0:48:21.800 --> 0:48:22.839
<v Speaker 2>only if they won't leave.

0:48:23.200 --> 0:48:25.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the owner the owner side. But in that last

0:48:25.640 --> 0:48:28.680
<v Speaker 3>episode when they overtook that girl, the little baby, the

0:48:28.719 --> 0:48:30.480
<v Speaker 3>goat was trying to stay with her, but they left

0:48:30.480 --> 0:48:30.799
<v Speaker 3>the goat.

0:48:32.600 --> 0:48:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that was sad. It was stat like that.

0:48:37.320 --> 0:48:41.480
<v Speaker 2>So you remember the last episode open wanted to actually turn, Yeah,

0:48:41.560 --> 0:48:43.160
<v Speaker 2>and then the goat was with her and they left that.

0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:47.040
<v Speaker 2>They just left the goat once she turned. So and

0:48:47.080 --> 0:48:48.839
<v Speaker 2>I found that were interesting too, just to get into

0:48:48.880 --> 0:48:51.719
<v Speaker 2>the last episode, how all of those people there were

0:48:51.760 --> 0:48:57.040
<v Speaker 2>infected and then they were going through that practice of

0:48:57.160 --> 0:48:59.640
<v Speaker 2>you know what she usually does just because she hadn't

0:48:59.640 --> 0:49:02.080
<v Speaker 2>been one, and as soon as they converted her, they

0:49:02.120 --> 0:49:03.920
<v Speaker 2>all left, right.

0:49:03.960 --> 0:49:09.040
<v Speaker 1>So going back real quick, just one. I think the

0:49:09.160 --> 0:49:15.520
<v Speaker 1>reason why she started to get more information and intel

0:49:15.560 --> 0:49:19.080
<v Speaker 1>on them is because she went to that diner that

0:49:19.120 --> 0:49:21.920
<v Speaker 1>they built, and she started to see the person that

0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:24.160
<v Speaker 1>the waitress that was working there. She was like, so,

0:49:24.200 --> 0:49:26.440
<v Speaker 1>I think that's when she started to say, Okay, now

0:49:26.520 --> 0:49:29.200
<v Speaker 1>y'all still full of shit, so I'm not with all

0:49:29.239 --> 0:49:34.799
<v Speaker 1>this shit anymore. But she started. And it's so weird

0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:38.000
<v Speaker 1>because I don't know what it is like did she

0:49:38.080 --> 0:49:40.960
<v Speaker 1>started to buy in because when I guess it was

0:49:41.000 --> 0:49:43.799
<v Speaker 1>the last episode when Manusa made it there. Okay, so

0:49:43.840 --> 0:49:47.920
<v Speaker 1>now we'll get to where you were seeing what they

0:49:47.960 --> 0:49:55.200
<v Speaker 1>did with that person explains that everything that they did

0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:59.840
<v Speaker 1>up to this point was bullshit. It's nothing but manipulation

0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:03.600
<v Speaker 1>and coersion. Just we're going to do everything we can

0:50:03.760 --> 0:50:07.080
<v Speaker 1>to break you so you can voluntarily join us. We're

0:50:07.120 --> 0:50:10.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna make you see it's gonna be okay. Everything's nice,

0:50:10.440 --> 0:50:12.960
<v Speaker 1>it's great over here. We're gonna give you all your wishes,

0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:15.960
<v Speaker 1>et cetera, et cetera, to get them to say, okay,

0:50:15.960 --> 0:50:17.200
<v Speaker 1>I want to be a part of you, and then

0:50:17.200 --> 0:50:19.160
<v Speaker 1>you be a part of it, and then everything else

0:50:19.280 --> 0:50:22.279
<v Speaker 1>is gone and then they just leave everything. They never

0:50:22.400 --> 0:50:24.960
<v Speaker 1>said that that they didn't want her a part of

0:50:25.000 --> 0:50:27.680
<v Speaker 1>the high. They always said, well, we're working on giving

0:50:27.719 --> 0:50:30.880
<v Speaker 1>you a part of this. They said that from the jump.

0:50:30.719 --> 0:50:32.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because she she even asked how long is it

0:50:32.560 --> 0:50:33.000
<v Speaker 3>gonna take?

0:50:33.760 --> 0:50:36.040
<v Speaker 1>But I thought they also said that we need you

0:50:36.120 --> 0:50:37.560
<v Speaker 1>to he did join.

0:50:37.840 --> 0:50:39.520
<v Speaker 3>They said, we need you to join, but we also

0:50:39.600 --> 0:50:41.759
<v Speaker 3>need you to consent. And that's where the part they

0:50:41.800 --> 0:50:44.640
<v Speaker 3>were lying. Because the guy told them that it's a

0:50:44.640 --> 0:50:47.960
<v Speaker 3>surgery that they could do. They found out it's it's

0:50:47.960 --> 0:50:50.200
<v Speaker 3>a surgery that they could do.

0:50:51.120 --> 0:50:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Ye. Yes, Maybe what I'm saying is that, yeah, they've

0:50:55.000 --> 0:50:58.000
<v Speaker 1>always wanted her to join, and they kept, you know,

0:50:58.239 --> 0:51:00.840
<v Speaker 1>urging her on and trying to woo her in whatever

0:51:00.880 --> 0:51:04.000
<v Speaker 1>way they can. When I looked at the village, I

0:51:04.040 --> 0:51:06.040
<v Speaker 1>looked at that girl. They did the same thing to

0:51:06.120 --> 0:51:10.239
<v Speaker 1>her too, you know, except she wasn't like Carol, you know,

0:51:10.320 --> 0:51:12.200
<v Speaker 1>she was more open to the idea. She was like

0:51:12.239 --> 0:51:14.520
<v Speaker 1>the other people you were talking about, you know, where

0:51:14.880 --> 0:51:16.520
<v Speaker 1>they just kind of went along with it, and she

0:51:16.680 --> 0:51:20.120
<v Speaker 1>was like, Okay, fine, I'm gonna agree to join the hive.

0:51:20.200 --> 0:51:22.240
<v Speaker 1>And then, like you said, they just left the animal

0:51:22.280 --> 0:51:22.959
<v Speaker 1>where it was.

0:51:23.360 --> 0:51:25.719
<v Speaker 2>And soon she changed over everything that they were doing.

0:51:25.719 --> 0:51:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Soon she changed over. But it seems like throughout that

0:51:29.120 --> 0:51:33.840
<v Speaker 1>whole process they were just it's just like somebody you see.

0:51:34.160 --> 0:51:36.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, we're gonna give you our best representative and

0:51:36.520 --> 0:51:39.560
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do everything. Everything's great over here. You know

0:51:39.560 --> 0:51:42.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm the best person for you. This is great, great, great,

0:51:42.239 --> 0:51:44.640
<v Speaker 1>And then you get there, it's like the grass isn't greener,

0:51:45.200 --> 0:51:48.759
<v Speaker 1>you know. So with Carol, Carol was the only one

0:51:48.800 --> 0:51:51.920
<v Speaker 1>that wasn't willing to do that, which is why it

0:51:51.960 --> 0:51:54.920
<v Speaker 1>took so much effort to get her on board. And

0:51:54.920 --> 0:51:56.759
<v Speaker 1>then by the time we get to this episode, a

0:51:56.800 --> 0:51:59.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of other people have already agreed to do the process,

0:51:59.400 --> 0:52:02.279
<v Speaker 1>and then we found out that the stem cells is

0:52:02.280 --> 0:52:06.560
<v Speaker 1>how they managed to figure out a way to convert

0:52:06.600 --> 0:52:08.799
<v Speaker 1>them over. The question is I think at this point

0:52:08.840 --> 0:52:12.640
<v Speaker 1>do they still need to consent that point.

0:52:13.160 --> 0:52:15.919
<v Speaker 3>That's why Karen was mad, and she was like, y'all

0:52:15.920 --> 0:52:20.560
<v Speaker 3>are fucking lying because she said no, she wasn't. That's

0:52:20.560 --> 0:52:21.319
<v Speaker 3>what I'm trying to say.

0:52:21.719 --> 0:52:26.520
<v Speaker 4>They never said okay, they never said that they didn't

0:52:26.520 --> 0:52:27.959
<v Speaker 4>want her part of the hot mind.

0:52:28.360 --> 0:52:29.160
<v Speaker 1>They never said that.

0:52:29.880 --> 0:52:33.800
<v Speaker 4>What they did say is that we're working right now

0:52:34.280 --> 0:52:37.239
<v Speaker 4>to be able to take to break you, to make

0:52:37.320 --> 0:52:43.120
<v Speaker 4>your joint right. The conflict comes in because she thought

0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:46.399
<v Speaker 4>that they needed that they would need her consent because

0:52:46.400 --> 0:52:48.080
<v Speaker 4>they couldn't, you know, without it.

0:52:48.080 --> 0:52:52.040
<v Speaker 3>They explicitly said that. No, I'm saying follow me.

0:52:52.400 --> 0:52:52.879
<v Speaker 1>So yeah.

0:52:52.960 --> 0:52:56.600
<v Speaker 4>So when she found that out that they need her consent,

0:52:57.680 --> 0:53:01.239
<v Speaker 4>she was like blank, great sigh relief, Like I ain't

0:53:01.239 --> 0:53:03.120
<v Speaker 4>got to worry about y'all taking over my mind or

0:53:03.160 --> 0:53:03.960
<v Speaker 4>whatever whatever.

0:53:05.480 --> 0:53:07.440
<v Speaker 1>And that's how she chose to be with Zozi.

0:53:07.800 --> 0:53:14.000
<v Speaker 4>And because y'all need my consent, right, things change when

0:53:14.000 --> 0:53:15.879
<v Speaker 4>they realize they can do it do it. When they

0:53:15.920 --> 0:53:19.160
<v Speaker 4>did find a way to do it through the stem cells,

0:53:20.040 --> 0:53:22.839
<v Speaker 4>she was not mad about She's mad. She's mad, but

0:53:24.360 --> 0:53:26.000
<v Speaker 4>that's why she was just like, well, how long? She

0:53:26.080 --> 0:53:27.960
<v Speaker 4>was just like, well, how long do I have? Like

0:53:28.000 --> 0:53:29.359
<v Speaker 4>because she had to accept it.

0:53:29.640 --> 0:53:33.439
<v Speaker 3>No, y'all, she was mad because they lied. They did

0:53:33.520 --> 0:53:36.400
<v Speaker 3>lie because we now we're saying we don't need your consent.

0:53:36.840 --> 0:53:38.440
<v Speaker 3>We're going to do it without your consent.

0:53:38.560 --> 0:53:41.319
<v Speaker 4>Thought they only said that because they because they didn't

0:53:41.320 --> 0:53:42.200
<v Speaker 4>they didn't have a solution.

0:53:43.239 --> 0:53:46.319
<v Speaker 3>But no, no, no, no, no y'all buying into their lies.

0:53:46.520 --> 0:53:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Let me say, y'all, rules, are you saying that the

0:53:50.239 --> 0:53:53.160
<v Speaker 1>rules changed? No, I'm not saying that the rules changed.

0:53:53.160 --> 0:53:56.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm just saying that the circumstances changed before, like like

0:53:56.960 --> 0:54:00.239
<v Speaker 4>like the like the the guy, the guy that has

0:54:00.280 --> 0:54:03.000
<v Speaker 4>all the women and everything. They would need his consent

0:54:03.120 --> 0:54:06.200
<v Speaker 4>still because they don't have a way to just naturally

0:54:06.280 --> 0:54:07.520
<v Speaker 4>bring him a part of the hive.

0:54:08.080 --> 0:54:09.759
<v Speaker 1>They don't have a way to do it. They don't

0:54:09.800 --> 0:54:10.600
<v Speaker 1>have it stem cells.

0:54:10.640 --> 0:54:13.040
<v Speaker 3>They don't have it stem cells. They have her stem

0:54:13.120 --> 0:54:16.840
<v Speaker 3>cells because she froze her eggs. So technically it's not

0:54:16.960 --> 0:54:20.160
<v Speaker 3>against her will. It's just like how we did everybody else. No,

0:54:20.239 --> 0:54:24.239
<v Speaker 3>it is against her will. They specifically said to Carol,

0:54:24.760 --> 0:54:27.480
<v Speaker 3>we cannot do this without your consent. They put it

0:54:27.480 --> 0:54:30.200
<v Speaker 3>on a billboard. Yeah, I know, So what do you

0:54:30.239 --> 0:54:32.680
<v Speaker 3>mean It's not against because because they have her stem cells,

0:54:32.680 --> 0:54:37.640
<v Speaker 3>so that's still against her consent. She never consented, all right,

0:54:37.640 --> 0:54:38.560
<v Speaker 3>all right, here we go, here we go.

0:54:38.560 --> 0:54:43.080
<v Speaker 4>All right, So technically they didn't have anyone's consent, right, So, yes,

0:54:43.160 --> 0:54:47.440
<v Speaker 4>y'all are right in that, in that sensus, right, but

0:54:47.640 --> 0:54:50.239
<v Speaker 4>they never said that they didn't want to bring her.

0:54:50.480 --> 0:54:51.719
<v Speaker 1>We're past that.

0:54:51.760 --> 0:54:54.520
<v Speaker 3>But we're past that. But that's the conflict. No, the

0:54:54.560 --> 0:54:59.840
<v Speaker 3>conflict is consent. No, yes, it is, God it is.

0:55:00.480 --> 0:55:00.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:55:01.600 --> 0:55:04.040
<v Speaker 1>I think I think the stem cells is the thing

0:55:04.080 --> 0:55:10.640
<v Speaker 1>that's introduced that's causing the conflict and what is happening because.

0:55:10.400 --> 0:55:13.480
<v Speaker 3>She thought they could not do anything to her unless

0:55:13.520 --> 0:55:16.200
<v Speaker 3>they did the operation on her, and they said, we

0:55:16.239 --> 0:55:18.920
<v Speaker 3>will not do any of this without your consent. Right,

0:55:20.560 --> 0:55:22.799
<v Speaker 3>So then they figured out they could use the stem

0:55:22.880 --> 0:55:24.640
<v Speaker 3>cells from the Yeah, so.

0:55:24.800 --> 0:55:26.719
<v Speaker 4>She could just do what we could, just do what

0:55:26.760 --> 0:55:29.000
<v Speaker 4>we did do to you, what we did to everybody.

0:55:28.600 --> 0:55:31.840
<v Speaker 3>Else, right, which is against her consent. I don't disagree

0:55:31.880 --> 0:55:32.080
<v Speaker 3>with that.

0:55:32.239 --> 0:55:35.279
<v Speaker 4>When no, no, no no, when I said, I told you,

0:55:35.360 --> 0:55:38.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm aware that they didn't have anybody's consent just to

0:55:38.960 --> 0:55:42.879
<v Speaker 4>begin with, right, Okay, all I'm saying is that that

0:55:42.920 --> 0:55:46.839
<v Speaker 4>particular consent thing was what they were saying that they

0:55:47.200 --> 0:55:50.960
<v Speaker 4>they're not they're not allowed to just force the force

0:55:51.040 --> 0:55:51.640
<v Speaker 4>her into.

0:55:51.560 --> 0:55:53.520
<v Speaker 1>It that way. Okay, let me but they can do

0:55:53.560 --> 0:55:55.799
<v Speaker 1>it through the stem cells. Okay, let me back up.

0:55:56.040 --> 0:55:58.719
<v Speaker 1>So I try to get some more clarity what the

0:55:58.960 --> 0:56:01.399
<v Speaker 1>two levels of consent? So so.

0:56:02.800 --> 0:56:04.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I bet.

0:56:07.680 --> 0:56:12.760
<v Speaker 1>Like what okay, because I think the rules are starting

0:56:12.760 --> 0:56:16.640
<v Speaker 1>to become confusing. So because they had to perform a

0:56:16.760 --> 0:56:19.440
<v Speaker 1>surgery on her, that's the content they're saying that they

0:56:19.480 --> 0:56:22.840
<v Speaker 1>need her consent to do the surgery because maybe to them,

0:56:23.080 --> 0:56:27.359
<v Speaker 1>that is afflicting on that particular person and they can't

0:56:27.400 --> 0:56:27.680
<v Speaker 1>do that.

0:56:30.640 --> 0:56:33.560
<v Speaker 3>We're not violating consents, violating it At that point.

0:56:34.120 --> 0:56:35.600
<v Speaker 2>I get what you're saying that, how did it affect?

0:56:36.160 --> 0:56:37.480
<v Speaker 2>I took that the wrong way. I thought that they

0:56:37.520 --> 0:56:40.560
<v Speaker 2>would infect a child like from her age.

0:56:40.560 --> 0:56:43.200
<v Speaker 1>It's still it's themselves, so it's still party.

0:56:43.960 --> 0:56:45.000
<v Speaker 3>They said, have had her eggs.

0:56:45.040 --> 0:56:49.799
<v Speaker 2>I thought they were gonna have to. I didn't know

0:56:49.840 --> 0:56:51.880
<v Speaker 2>that she was gonna get affected if they used that.

0:56:52.120 --> 0:56:54.680
<v Speaker 3>You thought she was bad and they were infecting a vetus.

0:56:55.920 --> 0:57:01.719
<v Speaker 5>Okay, okay, so that's so now we can we can

0:57:02.160 --> 0:57:07.480
<v Speaker 5>bring you into the hive without physically harming you, and

0:57:07.520 --> 0:57:09.959
<v Speaker 5>we therefore we don't need your consent like we didn't

0:57:09.960 --> 0:57:11.320
<v Speaker 5>need consent to anybody else in this.

0:57:11.480 --> 0:57:14.080
<v Speaker 4>That's why she accepted, just like how many days do

0:57:14.120 --> 0:57:15.719
<v Speaker 4>I have? She like, damn, y'all got me.

0:57:15.840 --> 0:57:17.760
<v Speaker 3>But she was, but she was still mad about it.

0:57:19.160 --> 0:57:21.280
<v Speaker 4>She wasn't mad like it's it's it's a different type

0:57:21.280 --> 0:57:22.200
<v Speaker 4>of mad man.

0:57:23.960 --> 0:57:30.440
<v Speaker 2>She was manipulating her, right, that's what we like a

0:57:30.480 --> 0:57:31.640
<v Speaker 2>relationship manipulation.

0:57:32.160 --> 0:57:35.480
<v Speaker 1>They were doing that too, Yes, yeah, that Zozie or

0:57:35.480 --> 0:57:39.120
<v Speaker 1>whatever her name is. All of that wasna.

0:57:38.760 --> 0:57:41.880
<v Speaker 3>Yes, to keep her playcated until she can figure out

0:57:41.920 --> 0:57:44.960
<v Speaker 3>how to bring her forcefully.

0:57:44.360 --> 0:57:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Which they were lying.

0:57:45.480 --> 0:57:49.400
<v Speaker 3>Yes, Harold didn't think that that's what they were doing.

0:57:49.520 --> 0:57:52.960
<v Speaker 3>Carol thought she was just gonna be cool until they

0:57:53.200 --> 0:57:56.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, until whatever. Unless she actually consented to them

0:57:56.960 --> 0:57:57.680
<v Speaker 3>doing the surgery.

0:57:57.760 --> 0:58:01.360
<v Speaker 1>She turned into the guy that was doing James Bond stuff. Yes,

0:58:01.600 --> 0:58:06.760
<v Speaker 1>she got fantasy, Yes, exactly. So going back to this thing,

0:58:06.800 --> 0:58:09.680
<v Speaker 1>because it's a very confused part of the show, is

0:58:09.720 --> 0:58:12.200
<v Speaker 1>that so with everybody else, since they don't have their

0:58:12.200 --> 0:58:15.280
<v Speaker 1>stem cells, they need consent from them because it will

0:58:15.280 --> 0:58:16.000
<v Speaker 1>requires service.

0:58:16.040 --> 0:58:19.520
<v Speaker 4>I get okay, yes, all right, cool, Yes, they can't

0:58:19.600 --> 0:58:22.200
<v Speaker 4>do that. So that's why I say they're not necessarily lying.

0:58:22.400 --> 0:58:23.760
<v Speaker 4>So she's the only one.

0:58:23.520 --> 0:58:26.640
<v Speaker 3>In the grand scope of things. Yes, they are, because

0:58:26.640 --> 0:58:29.600
<v Speaker 3>we don't know their actual intentions. You know what I'm saying,

0:58:30.000 --> 0:58:33.120
<v Speaker 3>They lie by omission. There you go, We on the

0:58:33.160 --> 0:58:33.640
<v Speaker 3>stand page.

0:58:33.680 --> 0:58:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Now, Yeah, all right. The last episode was like she

0:58:37.160 --> 0:58:40.360
<v Speaker 2>got old el Mondo, and this is where Minosius arrives

0:58:40.360 --> 0:58:41.560
<v Speaker 2>and clashes with Carol.

0:58:41.680 --> 0:58:45.560
<v Speaker 1>Before we get there too, the girl that did it,

0:58:45.680 --> 0:58:46.600
<v Speaker 1>like the ritual thing.

0:58:46.680 --> 0:58:47.479
<v Speaker 3>I think they got.

0:58:47.560 --> 0:58:49.520
<v Speaker 4>That's that's how they That's how they were able to

0:58:49.520 --> 0:58:50.920
<v Speaker 4>do it with her too, because she didn't have to

0:58:50.920 --> 0:58:53.400
<v Speaker 4>do the operation, even though she willingly wanted to do.

0:58:53.480 --> 0:58:56.240
<v Speaker 4>You'll remember she had to sniff the she was whatever,

0:58:56.680 --> 0:58:58.320
<v Speaker 4>and they didn't have to do the needle thing that

0:58:58.360 --> 0:58:59.360
<v Speaker 4>they said they were gonna do.

0:58:59.800 --> 0:59:01.880
<v Speaker 3>I took it. No, I took it that they already

0:59:01.880 --> 0:59:04.280
<v Speaker 3>did it. And that's what that smoke was. They did

0:59:04.320 --> 0:59:07.040
<v Speaker 3>the operation, they put it in whatever that little thing

0:59:07.040 --> 0:59:08.320
<v Speaker 3>he was, and they were like, go ahead and take that,

0:59:08.360 --> 0:59:09.320
<v Speaker 3>and that's what changed her.

0:59:09.520 --> 0:59:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh you think they did operation on her, yes, because

0:59:11.680 --> 0:59:12.840
<v Speaker 1>otherwise do it.

0:59:12.920 --> 0:59:14.880
<v Speaker 4>I thought they did a stem cell thing with her too,

0:59:15.000 --> 0:59:17.000
<v Speaker 4>But it's just how they found out they can do

0:59:17.040 --> 0:59:17.800
<v Speaker 4>sims stem cells.

0:59:17.800 --> 0:59:21.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh wait a minute, that would take a lot of guessing,

0:59:21.080 --> 0:59:24.040
<v Speaker 3>because they never implied that that girl even had any

0:59:24.080 --> 0:59:25.200
<v Speaker 3>stem cells laying around.

0:59:25.960 --> 0:59:28.360
<v Speaker 4>I understand they didn't imply it, but how would we

0:59:28.440 --> 0:59:30.600
<v Speaker 4>know that. That's how did they figure out, that's how

0:59:30.600 --> 0:59:31.360
<v Speaker 4>we can do it.

0:59:31.280 --> 0:59:34.600
<v Speaker 3>Because they found Carol's DNA in that because they said

0:59:34.640 --> 0:59:35.600
<v Speaker 3>all we need is DNA.

0:59:35.800 --> 0:59:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, So.

0:59:36.440 --> 0:59:39.720
<v Speaker 3>They found her DNA in this because they know everything

0:59:40.720 --> 0:59:42.520
<v Speaker 3>right because they have their they have the brain of

0:59:42.560 --> 0:59:44.520
<v Speaker 3>the doctors and all that. So I think at one

0:59:44.600 --> 0:59:49.360
<v Speaker 3>point they figured out, oh, our doctor part of us

0:59:49.720 --> 0:59:53.600
<v Speaker 3>remembers that Carol was doing stem cells.

0:59:53.400 --> 0:59:56.960
<v Speaker 1>So why did they just now find out about that? Though?

0:59:57.240 --> 0:59:59.600
<v Speaker 3>Maybe I think it took them, sorry Ken, real quick.

1:00:00.000 --> 1:00:01.760
<v Speaker 3>I think it just took them a while to figure

1:00:01.760 --> 1:00:04.560
<v Speaker 3>out that they could use the stem cells to do that.

1:00:04.560 --> 1:00:05.320
<v Speaker 3>That's why I'm saying.

1:00:05.440 --> 1:00:08.480
<v Speaker 4>That's why I thought they got the idea from the

1:00:08.520 --> 1:00:09.320
<v Speaker 4>Peruvian girl.

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<v Speaker 3>But that would take a lot of implying though, because

1:00:11.880 --> 1:00:13.480
<v Speaker 3>they never even said anything about that girl.

1:00:13.520 --> 1:00:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Unless I missed it, I think they may have already

1:00:15.640 --> 1:00:18.760
<v Speaker 1>been working on it away once. Maybe the idea of

1:00:18.760 --> 1:00:20.520
<v Speaker 1>the stem sell like, oh, we got stem cells, can

1:00:20.560 --> 1:00:23.240
<v Speaker 1>we use something with stem cells? And the brilliant minds guy.

1:00:23.360 --> 1:00:25.840
<v Speaker 1>I thought the Peruvian girls flashback from the past.

1:00:26.120 --> 1:00:28.400
<v Speaker 3>I did too, I didn't. I thought that she was

1:00:28.400 --> 1:00:31.520
<v Speaker 3>at the dinner. So I think the Peruvian girl just

1:00:31.640 --> 1:00:34.640
<v Speaker 3>gave in because they she was really a part of community,

1:00:35.200 --> 1:00:37.480
<v Speaker 3>and that's why it made it very They made it

1:00:37.520 --> 1:00:40.160
<v Speaker 3>a very big point about the ritual thing. And then

1:00:40.160 --> 1:00:42.200
<v Speaker 3>the second she became one of them, they all bounced.

1:00:43.360 --> 1:00:45.840
<v Speaker 3>They killed community and it killed the Yeah, so I

1:00:45.880 --> 1:00:47.640
<v Speaker 3>think I think that she just gave in.

1:00:47.760 --> 1:00:50.520
<v Speaker 1>So they were they were in that community, pretending like

1:00:50.600 --> 1:00:58.360
<v Speaker 1>they were still part of the community, pretending She was

1:00:58.400 --> 1:01:05.120
<v Speaker 1>like stopped saying the eye. She was used yourself and

1:01:05.240 --> 1:01:09.320
<v Speaker 1>she kept trying to use her own like pronoun whatever.

1:01:09.400 --> 1:01:11.600
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, oh yeah, she was having a hard time

1:01:11.640 --> 1:01:12.880
<v Speaker 3>doing that saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I yep, yeah, but have to do it because it's

1:01:18.200 --> 1:01:21.880
<v Speaker 1>more that's what Carol was asking for.

1:01:22.240 --> 1:01:24.440
<v Speaker 3>When when she when they fucked, I was like, oh,

1:01:24.640 --> 1:01:26.840
<v Speaker 3>there we go.

1:01:27.400 --> 1:01:30.439
<v Speaker 2>She was like she was with Caroen knows was opening.

1:01:32.680 --> 1:01:34.840
<v Speaker 3>She doing a little cold or something. She ate the

1:01:34.840 --> 1:01:35.840
<v Speaker 3>food and ate something.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>The last episode, Minosis and Carol finally meet each other.

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<v Speaker 2>They class of course, it was hilarious and having a

1:01:43.800 --> 1:01:46.439
<v Speaker 2>conversation with the phone. I love that was real.

1:01:46.520 --> 1:01:48.520
<v Speaker 3>That was actually really good. That was really good, right,

1:01:50.680 --> 1:01:52.600
<v Speaker 3>especially when when he dropped the phone and the thing

1:01:52.680 --> 1:01:54.680
<v Speaker 3>and it was still trying to get it out and

1:01:54.680 --> 1:01:56.080
<v Speaker 3>he was like, god, damn it, shut up, and it

1:01:56.160 --> 1:01:59.280
<v Speaker 3>was like it was it was really good.

1:01:59.520 --> 1:02:00.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:02:00.800 --> 1:02:03.080
<v Speaker 2>So of course they go back and forth. He tries

1:02:03.120 --> 1:02:07.120
<v Speaker 2>to convince Carol who's following love and it's thinking about

1:02:07.160 --> 1:02:08.600
<v Speaker 2>doing it and he tells you that it's bad.

1:02:08.840 --> 1:02:11.240
<v Speaker 1>He was talking shit to its. He was hard. He

1:02:11.360 --> 1:02:12.800
<v Speaker 1>was like, you want this or do you want the

1:02:12.800 --> 1:02:13.640
<v Speaker 1>girl or something like that.

1:02:14.400 --> 1:02:15.959
<v Speaker 3>You want to say the world or you want the girl?

1:02:16.400 --> 1:02:19.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And they finally come to the same page and

1:02:19.680 --> 1:02:21.080
<v Speaker 2>an Adam bomb is delivered.

1:02:21.200 --> 1:02:25.680
<v Speaker 1>That shit was crazy, but he Carol again became the

1:02:25.760 --> 1:02:29.440
<v Speaker 1>other guy and he was based. Carol tried. It was like, bro,

1:02:29.720 --> 1:02:30.440
<v Speaker 1>what are you doing?

1:02:31.240 --> 1:02:34.160
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, but if you think about it, he still

1:02:34.240 --> 1:02:36.080
<v Speaker 3>has not eaten any of their food.

1:02:36.400 --> 1:02:38.360
<v Speaker 2>Is that what you were saying that you.

1:02:37.920 --> 1:02:42.479
<v Speaker 3>Said, Yeah, yeah, I feel like he is still gung

1:02:42.560 --> 1:02:44.920
<v Speaker 3>ho because he hasn't eaten. I know I could be

1:02:44.960 --> 1:02:47.080
<v Speaker 3>completely one hundred percent wrong, but that's just what I

1:02:47.160 --> 1:02:51.440
<v Speaker 3>was figuring. He still has anything from right right right.

1:02:51.880 --> 1:02:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he hates him and I think he's right. He

1:02:54.040 --> 1:02:56.640
<v Speaker 1>was like, they're listening to everything and she's going to

1:02:56.640 --> 1:02:58.080
<v Speaker 1>have become more trustworthy.

1:02:58.200 --> 1:02:59.600
<v Speaker 3>That part till I'm glad you brought that up, because

1:02:59.600 --> 1:03:02.920
<v Speaker 3>at the very beginning she was super paranoid about everything.

1:03:03.360 --> 1:03:05.520
<v Speaker 3>But at the end she was like, why would they

1:03:05.560 --> 1:03:07.240
<v Speaker 3>bug my house? What are you talking about? And I

1:03:07.280 --> 1:03:10.120
<v Speaker 3>was like, wait a minute, five episodes ago, you thought

1:03:10.160 --> 1:03:14.000
<v Speaker 3>they were bugging everything. And the only difference again is

1:03:14.040 --> 1:03:18.080
<v Speaker 3>I think she's started eating the food or drinking the

1:03:18.160 --> 1:03:21.160
<v Speaker 3>proverbial kool aid. I think the difference, too, is that

1:03:21.240 --> 1:03:24.160
<v Speaker 3>she's had more interactions with them and have more study

1:03:24.240 --> 1:03:25.080
<v Speaker 3>on them than he does.

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<v Speaker 1>True.

1:03:26.080 --> 1:03:27.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's had no interactions.

1:03:27.440 --> 1:03:30.000
<v Speaker 4>With like, look, they can't lie, they can't do this

1:03:30.200 --> 1:03:33.200
<v Speaker 4>like I've I've been experienced for the last how many days,

1:03:33.200 --> 1:03:34.320
<v Speaker 4>a month, three months?

1:03:34.360 --> 1:03:38.840
<v Speaker 3>At this point, I can't remember what it said. Seventy days. Yeah,

1:03:39.120 --> 1:03:43.800
<v Speaker 3>she was about was about to shoot him over the

1:03:43.800 --> 1:03:45.080
<v Speaker 3>theme that she hates.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember that.

1:03:46.760 --> 1:03:48.040
<v Speaker 3>When did she put a gun on him?

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<v Speaker 4>She shot it when she came into the house. Was

1:03:51.520 --> 1:03:55.200
<v Speaker 4>it at she shot it past him? Let her let

1:03:55.320 --> 1:03:58.120
<v Speaker 4>uh get away from from whatever?

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<v Speaker 1>When he was trying to No, no, he was screaming

1:04:02.040 --> 1:04:04.160
<v Speaker 1>at the guy. Yeah, because jo jall fell out.

1:04:04.680 --> 1:04:05.720
<v Speaker 3>Do not remember this part.

1:04:05.840 --> 1:04:08.040
<v Speaker 4>I believe y'all because she was just like, all right,

1:04:08.040 --> 1:04:11.480
<v Speaker 4>something's about to happen or whatever. Zoja was like something's

1:04:11.480 --> 1:04:14.640
<v Speaker 4>about to happen on the floor, and she started doing

1:04:14.640 --> 1:04:16.640
<v Speaker 4>a convosing thing so that she said, oh, it got

1:04:16.760 --> 1:04:18.480
<v Speaker 4>to be him. So that's when she ran over with

1:04:18.520 --> 1:04:18.920
<v Speaker 4>the gun.

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<v Speaker 3>So what was he doing.

1:04:20.920 --> 1:04:22.760
<v Speaker 4>He was trying to get it to match some type

1:04:22.800 --> 1:04:25.960
<v Speaker 4>of frequency, understand what they were saying.

1:04:26.280 --> 1:04:27.600
<v Speaker 1>So how they communicated.

1:04:28.400 --> 1:04:31.040
<v Speaker 3>So he just hit the wrong frequency and it fucked

1:04:31.080 --> 1:04:33.800
<v Speaker 3>him up. Nah, No, he was he was purposely.

1:04:33.440 --> 1:04:35.680
<v Speaker 4>Yelling at him to get him to do that convulsion

1:04:35.920 --> 1:04:39.200
<v Speaker 4>ship or whatever. And it's just because when they're going

1:04:39.280 --> 1:04:41.640
<v Speaker 4>through that, they give off a frequency, they give off

1:04:41.640 --> 1:04:43.360
<v Speaker 4>a frequency, and he was just trying.

1:04:43.120 --> 1:04:45.760
<v Speaker 2>To match it and see what it would do if

1:04:45.760 --> 1:04:46.280
<v Speaker 2>they did.

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<v Speaker 1>That, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And then and that's why he was just like, you know,

1:04:50.240 --> 1:04:53.120
<v Speaker 4>the person that they they took over, he think that

1:04:53.160 --> 1:04:55.800
<v Speaker 4>they're still in there, and he's just like, yo, I

1:04:55.840 --> 1:04:56.120
<v Speaker 4>know you.

1:04:56.040 --> 1:04:58.800
<v Speaker 3>Can hear me. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay.

1:04:58.720 --> 1:05:02.040
<v Speaker 4>So so why why the signal was down. He's trying

1:05:02.040 --> 1:05:07.040
<v Speaker 4>to get to the person. Yeah, yeah, he thinks the

1:05:07.040 --> 1:05:09.040
<v Speaker 4>person is still alive. He just needs he just needs

1:05:09.040 --> 1:05:11.360
<v Speaker 4>to break that signal so he can talk to the

1:05:11.400 --> 1:05:15.520
<v Speaker 4>person or whatever. But the person's been in that body,

1:05:15.720 --> 1:05:18.400
<v Speaker 4>in that state for so long, it's probably gonna be

1:05:18.440 --> 1:05:19.840
<v Speaker 4>hard to get through to them.

1:05:20.080 --> 1:05:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Imagine like coming out of that if you have still

1:05:23.640 --> 1:05:25.120
<v Speaker 1>awareness of everything, you.

1:05:25.120 --> 1:05:27.120
<v Speaker 3>Wake up something, y'all'll let you in Spanish?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, interesting, So did y'all like the end of.

1:05:37.240 --> 1:05:39.760
<v Speaker 1>It was? It was a dramatic ending, yeah, bringing the

1:05:39.920 --> 1:05:43.720
<v Speaker 1>atomic bomb, but it's just like, bro, like, now you

1:05:43.760 --> 1:05:44.920
<v Speaker 1>know she had to go through that.

1:05:45.000 --> 1:05:47.040
<v Speaker 2>I like, it can't take forever to come back. I

1:05:47.080 --> 1:05:48.560
<v Speaker 2>would say, it's just the only way the end it

1:05:48.600 --> 1:05:51.480
<v Speaker 2>gonna be, like they need to continue this story like

1:05:51.720 --> 1:05:54.160
<v Speaker 2>six months and I'm waiting two years to see the

1:05:54.160 --> 1:05:54.560
<v Speaker 2>rest of this.

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<v Speaker 3>See that's the problem I had. I don't think this

1:05:56.640 --> 1:05:59.600
<v Speaker 3>was a good ending for this season. It was like,

1:05:59.720 --> 1:06:03.320
<v Speaker 3>y'all didn't do enough in this show to end it

1:06:03.400 --> 1:06:06.240
<v Speaker 3>like this, because this does not have me hyped to

1:06:06.280 --> 1:06:10.240
<v Speaker 3>see what happens after this, not at all, I am.

1:06:10.280 --> 1:06:12.680
<v Speaker 4>Because it's because of the unanswered questions, you know what

1:06:12.720 --> 1:06:14.560
<v Speaker 4>I'm saying, What are their intentions?

1:06:14.600 --> 1:06:20.959
<v Speaker 1>Like world peace? It's not though you don't think so, Yeah,

1:06:21.000 --> 1:06:21.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

1:06:22.160 --> 1:06:23.720
<v Speaker 3>So why would they let themselves die?

1:06:23.760 --> 1:06:26.040
<v Speaker 1>And they say they can't lie either, but they might

1:06:26.080 --> 1:06:30.360
<v Speaker 1>be lying about that though the same shit they lie

1:06:30.400 --> 1:06:31.160
<v Speaker 1>like a motherbuger.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a very actuist. I don't know. It's it's weird

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<v Speaker 1>to be this alien from out of space, like, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we just want everybody to get along.

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<v Speaker 2>Like why did y'all come here and invade us to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, because they probably didn't know that the bodies would

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<v Speaker 3>not be able to sustain themselves. Maybe I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, but you know, it's and it's again, like throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the whole episode, they kept saying over and over again,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to get you as part of the hot

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to happen, and one way or the other,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we just don't know why you haven't converted over.

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<v Speaker 1>We got our scientists working on it, and at some

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<v Speaker 1>point we're gonna convert you over. So even though there's

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<v Speaker 1>and that was before CONSENTI that came up, right, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>come up until later. So to your point, Rob, the

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<v Speaker 1>whole season, every episode they were like, yeah, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>we want you to be a part of it. We

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<v Speaker 1>just know right now, we don't know how to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're gonna do it. We're gonna figure it out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>at some point we're gonna figure this shit out. So

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<v Speaker 1>you might as well just just agree, yeah, as.

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<v Speaker 2>Vince does in his other shows, before we rap. I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to share this. I thought it was generation.

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<v Speaker 2>The colors had meanings here like he did with Breaking

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<v Speaker 2>bed with a Colors represent different things. Just a brief

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<v Speaker 2>synopsis of it's a dope YouTube video out there on

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<v Speaker 2>this if y'all want to hear more about it. But

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<v Speaker 2>yellow represented the human, the individual world, personal identity, joy,

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<v Speaker 2>and the normal everyday life. You would see monocious and yellow.

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<v Speaker 2>You would see Carol in yellow. Blue signified the hive

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<v Speaker 2>mind collectuses them and comfort uh the emerging new world.

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<v Speaker 2>Blue imagery, like vast oceans, cold settings often surrounds the

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<v Speaker 2>hives influence, so you'll see a lot of blue when

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<v Speaker 2>it's the hive around. Red signals danger, violence or harm.

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<v Speaker 2>Purple was sometimes appearing in the blend of hope and love.

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<v Speaker 2>Green may suggests in difference with a mix of yellow

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<v Speaker 2>and blue themes, and white often symbolize that death or

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<v Speaker 2>surrender in TV and film through this least prominent. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's a dope video about how they use the colors,

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<v Speaker 2>and they show the scenes as to where like what

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<v Speaker 2>Mike was saying, when you she started to be more

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<v Speaker 2>open towards the hive mind, she would have blue she

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<v Speaker 2>had blue on, like she would have a yellow shirt,

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<v Speaker 2>but the jacket would be blue or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I thought that was really interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Color theory is definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of many one. I think that's what that means.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of many one, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, No, the other thing too that I'm looking

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<v Speaker 4>forward to is just like, you know, like why are

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<v Speaker 4>they immune? Like why are these twelve people immune?

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<v Speaker 3>Like what is it about these people? That's what I

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<v Speaker 3>like to know to you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's still things that I want to know that

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<v Speaker 4>I would tune into a season two.

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<v Speaker 2>For a lot of different ways that they could go with.

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<v Speaker 2>I just hope it gets more entertaining. It's interesting. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if it's entertaining. So I'm definitely here for

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<v Speaker 2>to see the rest of it, how it plays out.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, it took me four times to really sit

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<v Speaker 2>down and watch Better Call Saw so and that's one

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<v Speaker 2>of my favorite show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I Better Call SAUW. Yeah yeah, but you can

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<v Speaker 1>watch it not Rod and get it full and drumming

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<v Speaker 1>out of it. But yeah, like.

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<v Speaker 2>It took it took three seasons for you to really

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<v Speaker 2>get a grasp on what was like, Oh, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>get it them and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then build up so they entrust them that his fans

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<v Speaker 1>will stay around.

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<v Speaker 2>Facts it already got renewed for the second and the

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<v Speaker 2>third season.

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<v Speaker 1>I think yeah, and I think you know this, this

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<v Speaker 1>this is the type of show that people love like

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<v Speaker 1>because they can sit around and come up with all

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<v Speaker 1>these theories about what's going on, what's happening. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>like those that Middle Patch. It's like, how are you

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<v Speaker 1>gonna find something to talk about with that? And that's

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<v Speaker 1>where it really really struggled. But I mean sitting here

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<v Speaker 1>talking about it, it's fun. Yeah, Like we get to

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<v Speaker 1>see he and theorize and engaging conversation about what we

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<v Speaker 1>just watched.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just watching it.

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<v Speaker 1>Watching it actually rough. You know after the first couple

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<v Speaker 1>of episodes, it's not worth keeping out A Plus I.

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<v Speaker 2>Said, no, I wouldn't, but I got some shows for

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<v Speaker 2>you to make you keep it though.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I definitely do.

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<v Speaker 2>But that has been our review of the Apple Plus

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