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Speaker 1: The Frames per Second Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Frames per Second Podcast, where we are

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Speaker 2: reviewing Apple Plus TV show made by Vince Gilligan from

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Speaker 2: Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul Plurists. I'm not at home.

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Speaker 2: I am here with I am here with Ken.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what show that was was that season

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Speaker 3: two said? Is how you say it?

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Speaker 2: Clarabus? This show don't deserve to be pronounced right but jam,

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Speaker 2: but we're getting how everybody feels about it again.

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Speaker 3: I'm here with Ken.

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Speaker 2: Mike Rod, I will throw it to you first, Rod,

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Speaker 2: what did you think about pluebris?

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Speaker 4: When I think about Claribus, I'm with I thought it

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Speaker 4: was fun like like I didn't. I wasn't mad about

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Speaker 4: because I had I had to just go ahead and

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Speaker 4: pay for Apple Apple Plus for a month or whatever

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Speaker 4: because we were out of our trial. Because I think

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Speaker 4: they watched something. So I just had to just I

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Speaker 4: just bought it for a month. So I've been trying

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Speaker 4: to watch as much Apple t Plus TV ship. Just

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Speaker 4: let me know what I need to watch. I sat

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Speaker 4: to watch Studio, okay, so let's let me know what

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Speaker 4: I need to watch while I have it right now, huh.

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Speaker 2: I'll send you something the last part of my top

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Speaker 2: teen with all Apple TV shows.

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Speaker 4: M hmm, okay, you're four out of five, okay, okay, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know I noticed that the stick it was on there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, give.

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Speaker 3: Me something, yeah, because I am trying to utilize it.

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Speaker 2: It's a good Jackson. It's a good Samuel Jackson series.

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Speaker 2: You don't like the Samuel Jackson show.

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Speaker 4: Watch I saw that, yeah, yeah, shrinking right, all right? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so but nah, I didn't think it was bad. I

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Speaker 4: thought it was interesting personally. I like kind of like

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Speaker 4: End of the World type shows or movies, you know.

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Speaker 3: And that's what this is. What this felt like.

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Speaker 4: I had a you know, a bit of a melancholia

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Speaker 4: feel to it. So yeah, I was interested. I was

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Speaker 4: interested to see what was going on here or whatever.

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Speaker 4: But I'll get more into it as we go through

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Speaker 4: the review. Ken, what'd you think?

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Speaker 1: Overall? I think I ended up disappointed. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think on other shows or episodes, like watching the first

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Speaker 1: couple of episodes, I was hyped for it. I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh man, this ship is gonna be crazy. But I

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Speaker 1: forgot Vince got Vince Gilligan does it shows and he

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Speaker 1: just drags everything else. I had to stop watching him

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Speaker 1: because I'm like, we're doing absolutely nothing to set up

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Speaker 1: something two or three seasons later, and it's like, I

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Speaker 1: don't have time for all that ship. So I stopped

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Speaker 1: watching it so I could binge it. And then when

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Speaker 1: I was binging it, it was like okay, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: and then uh, that was a real emotional moment later on.

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Speaker 1: But then finally got to the end, I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: good way to end it. But then we spent a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of time just kind of getting to that point,

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Speaker 1: which you know, yeah, I don't know, man, it was.

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Speaker 1: It was disappointing. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I can't imagine not beinging this personally. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't have probably have been enjoyed before me if

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Speaker 4: I if I had to watch this.

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Speaker 1: So this comes out week, this comes out. It's a

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Speaker 1: week to week show, bro. You know interesting, I did

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Speaker 1: concept thought the whole nine It's just that. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: it's I wait for two or three seasons out and

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Speaker 1: then watch.

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Speaker 2: Stick.

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Speaker 3: M h.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, do you like me? You like Vince though?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: No, you don't like Vince Gilley.

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Speaker 3: I don't give a shit about Breaking Bad. I think

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Speaker 3: it was. Yeah, I'm not one of those people that

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Speaker 3: thinks that's one of the best shows ever made. I

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Speaker 3: think it's a fine show. But I haven't watched Breaking

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Speaker 3: Call Better Better, Better Call Sau. I haven't watched that,

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Speaker 3: But this wasn't bad. It was just fucking dull, unbelievably dull,

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Speaker 3: that's all. And maybe that was the point, but I

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Speaker 3: don't know. Go ahead, so I'm not alone. I'm one

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Speaker 2: I know I Vis Gillig can tell the stories extremely

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Speaker 2: So I had the same problem with Better Call Salt,

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Speaker 2: and I think that's one of the best shows and

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Speaker 2: ever picked up three seasons in. And that's exactly what

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Speaker 2: I just let my all ben show. And then as

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Speaker 2: I'm giving Vince the benefit of the doubt because I

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Speaker 2: know it's how he does it shows. But as far

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Speaker 2: as this as an individual season, I would can't. I

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Speaker 2: get back into this. It just wouldn't uneventful.

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Speaker 4: I only felt that way towards the ladder, like towards

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Speaker 4: the end, like I was just like, okay, yeah, these

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Speaker 4: a little bit of a drag, but you know, it

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Speaker 4: pulled me in because I really wonder like the concept

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Speaker 4: of it not technically being an alien evasion or whatever,

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Speaker 4: I'm wondering, like, what the hell is going on here?

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Speaker 2: That's interesting, and I do wonder what's going on, But

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Speaker 2: I think the difference in the other show is where

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Speaker 2: you could deal with somewhat. That's the pace that he has.

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Speaker 2: They're more interesting characters. Carol just wasn't. I didn't give

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Speaker 2: a fuck about Carrol. I didn't want to spend that

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Speaker 2: hud Is doing mundane stuff. I'm like, bro, come on,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it was. It was really really slow, painfully

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Speaker 4: I thought she had like like really good comedic timming.

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Speaker 3: Like I thought, is she a comedian?

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Speaker 2: She was good like that in The Better Costs All?

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Speaker 2: She was actually better actually, But I don't know that

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Speaker 2: just drug like every time when she made the phone call,

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Speaker 3: I didn't find it funny, but I think it was intentional.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it was supposed to be funny. I

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Speaker 3: think it was just supposed to kind of just push

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Speaker 3: the idea of the mundane parts of Like. I actually

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Speaker 3: didn't mind that that they made us hear the fucking

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Speaker 3: the handswering machine thing every single time.

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Speaker 2: I hated that.

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Speaker 3: But the show itself, it was just there's not enough

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Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed, all right? So the first episode was called

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Speaker 2: We Is Us and Carol or Romantics a romance novelist.

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Speaker 2: She watched the world fall apart as an extraterrestrial virus

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Speaker 2: sweeps humanity into a collective hive mine the others all

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Speaker 2: while she remains immune. She loses her partner Helen and

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Speaker 2: the chaos and learned that there are dozens other like her.

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Speaker 2: What'd you guys think about this first episode of learning

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Speaker 2: about the virus and how it took people's mind over

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it pulled me in immediately, like, uh, especially the

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Speaker 4: scene outside where it was no one, like it was

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Speaker 4: like he ain't no type of activity going on right now,

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Speaker 4: and they go in there the motherfuckers like twitching and ship.

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Speaker 3: Like Michael, Yo, what she did was way worse than

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Speaker 3: what I just did. Motherfuckers. What's and what's up? What

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Speaker 3: these motherfuckers doing all this shit?

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Speaker 4: But but nah, yeah, I was like, oh man, what

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Speaker 4: the fuck is going on? You know what I'm saying. So,

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Speaker 4: and I was wondering, like why why isn't she affected?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 4: So yeah, that that was enough for me to be like, okay, yo,

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Speaker 4: this this is really interesting.

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Speaker 3: So nah, and and I like, uh, the idea of.

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Speaker 4: Them not wanting to hurt a harm and be they

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Speaker 4: accommodating you to someone, It's just like, okay, this is

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Speaker 4: because you know, that's not how you would think of

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: I think they had that one movie I Come In Piece.

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Speaker 4: You know y'all remember that ship I Come In Piece,

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Speaker 4: the movie called I'm Coming Peace. I remember the name

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Speaker 4: of he's the all way he did like some cards,

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Speaker 4: he's like lasers or some ship.

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Speaker 3: It was old eighties movies.

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Speaker 4: It's called I'm come in peace, but he would say it,

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Speaker 4: but he will kill you. It's like, oh, I come

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Speaker 4: in peace and then he'll kill you or whatever. But

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Speaker 4: this is like no, no, they actually are saying that

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Speaker 4: for you. I was like, oh, that's interesting.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I thought that was that was good that

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Speaker 3: they were lying though, aren't they But you're saying that

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Speaker 3: they're lying, but it hasn't shown that.

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Speaker 1: They're lying yet. You know, I don't know. I think,

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Speaker 1: I think that the way they invaded everybody was very

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Speaker 1: very forceful and against their will. So to Spike's point,

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Speaker 1: because nobody consented. It wasn't until later, And I think

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Speaker 1: can't get so now it's all about consent. But either way,

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Speaker 1: I think they did a good job of like I

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Speaker 1: think you did a good job of selling it, you know,

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Speaker 1: off real, this idea of these people being one hive mind,

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Speaker 1: you know, like the board from Star Trek. You know,

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Speaker 1: so I was all on board. Just how you set

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Speaker 1: it up. You know, you see everything happening. They go

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Speaker 1: and the wreck happening, and her driving to the hospital

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Speaker 1: I don't know where like it. It was a good setup.

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Speaker 1: I thought was in for hell of a show.

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Speaker 2: Say, I was on the same page as you thought. Okay,

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Speaker 2: this is good. I know Vince is good. I'm interested

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Speaker 2: to see what happens. It's just too painfully slow.

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Speaker 3: Mike, what you say first episode, I was on board

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Speaker 3: before I get into what I think about what's going on.

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Speaker 3: I'm still confused about what happened to the wife. Why

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Speaker 3: did she die? Did she died from the fall? What fall?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: She felt flat back? Like is that what kills her?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just I'm just saying no.

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Speaker 2: I think it's just eleven million people died as they

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Speaker 2: doing it. Yeah, they did it, So she was just

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Speaker 2: one of the people.

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Speaker 1: That didn't work.

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Speaker 3: I see, Okay, I was so confused all the way

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Speaker 3: up until the end. I was like, I don't understand

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Speaker 3: why she didn't just become one of the aliens.

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Speaker 4: And I think they're still trying to reveal that part,

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Speaker 4: like while others died.

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Speaker 2: She asked him how many people died in order for

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Speaker 2: you to do this? And she said they first, and

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Speaker 2: then she was like eleven million or something world.

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Speaker 1: And I think it was something to do with her

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Speaker 3: Like that, because he would have been that nasty motherfucker

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Speaker 2: What's the alternative though, Like I could see that I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it took over, so they ain't no need you

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Speaker 3: But it's also that situation of like, you know, you

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Speaker 3: What was it, lady name? This is what she asked for,

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Speaker 1: But you were thinking about the atomic bomb.

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Speaker 2: What did you guys think about this episode? The flashback,

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Speaker 3: I think they said this was I it was fine,

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Speaker 1: Right, So what happens if they realized that grenade is

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00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,719
Speaker 1: harmful and can be used to kill, would they not

437
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 1: comply with the order? You know, I don't know, but

438
00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,919
Speaker 1: I was still on board with this episode. You know,

439
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,919
Speaker 1: I'm still like waiting for things to develop, because I

440
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 1: thought more things were going to come around with this

441
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 1: other group that are out there, these these mutants that

442
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 1: they were at some point would realize that their way

443
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: is in the right way, and they were perform some

444
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 1: sort of rebellion ro I will say you, yeah, my

445
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 1: mom wasn't going there.

446
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 4: I just took the show for what it was and

447
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 4: just was just like just you know, waiting it out

448
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 4: with them. I like, I can, I can appreciate this

449
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 4: type of storytelling if it's slow or whatever, because I

450
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 4: think it you're you're meant to feel kind of like

451
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 4: what she's going through in a sense.

452
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 1: And I didn't have a problem sitting in that. Again,

453
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 1: I just found it interesting.

454
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 4: I'm just waiting for them to just change up or

455
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 4: switch up, and they just never do. They stay consistent

456
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 4: on their mission. But yeah, like Kim was saying, like, yeah,

457
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 4: it just sets it sets you up for later, like

458
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 4: to the breakdown, right, and you feel it. To me,

459
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 4: you feel it more because you you kind of go

460
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 4: through these little mundane moments with her and see her

461
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 4: at first being okay with being by herself being alone,

462
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,360
Speaker 4: like fuck it, I'll just learned.

463
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 3: Life this way.

464
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 4: But it shows that you know, we need human connection,

465
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 4: we need we need these things, you know what I'm saying.

466
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 3: So for her not to have that, it'll break down the.

467
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 4: Most headstrong person in the world, you know what I'm

468
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 4: saying to you know, then't want some sort of interaction.

469
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 1: And you know, and they were trying to say that

470
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 1: she is a miserable, miserable person, you know.

471
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 2: So you know, I think that's what irritated me about

472
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 2: her the most, is she was making herself more miserable

473
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 2: by just focusing on this. But I do agree with

474
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 2: what you two are saying, because at first, when I'm

475
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 2: watching it, I'm thinking, like, man, i'ld have been going

476
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 2: to do this and going to do that, and going

477
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 2: all these places and doing all these things. But then

478
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 2: they really honed in on but you still just by yourself, like.

479
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, well she's the person that don't like people that

480
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,199
Speaker 1: no longer have people. It's just like so you kind

481
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 1: of get your wish, but you you needed people around.

482
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 3: I think she would have been fine if her partner

483
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 3: was still around.

484
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: I think she would have been.

485
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 2: Which is why she turned later to that, like she

486
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 2: started looking at their girls, like what I.

487
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: Was fucked up by them, which was manipulative to to

488
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 1: send somebody that looks exactly or similar to her your

489
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: dream essentially.

490
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 4: But see, they thought they were trying to make her

491
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 4: happy though, but it didn't look like her I don't know.

492
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 3: Character from the book, but they were trying to make

493
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 3: her happy.

494
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: Though. She's like, we're sorry if this is not what

495
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: you think that's what they were doing.

496
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with Ken. This is manipulation's toxic nice niceness.

497
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 3: That's why you like it so large. But it's like, now,

498
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 3: I think they were trying to like, how can.

499
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 2: We get her to open up to us? Manipulation?

500
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 3: This manipulation right, it's like, how can we get her

501
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 3: to join us? Is more so what I think they

502
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 3: were doing. For sure.

503
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 4: I think y'all are y'all are right. But I do

504
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 4: like the writing of it because one could be like, oh.

505
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: Well.

506
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

507
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 2: We had these little flashes of the guy that was

508
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 2: I guess he was.

509
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 3: I don't know where he was, but he could have

510
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 3: stayed there, He should have stayed there.

511
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 2: But he's doing this radio signal thing and he's getting

512
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 2: these feedback.

513
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 3: Did that interest you guys at all?

514
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: No? No, because I'm like, okay, that'll be later. You know,

515
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: you're just giving us, you know, just a little bit

516
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: like who is that guy? What is he doing?

517
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 4: I did think it was interesting that he was more

518
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 4: relentless than Carol.

519
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 2: I think he was, And it started to seem obvious

520
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 2: where they were gonna go with him. He's eventually gonna

521
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 2: go meet Carrol.

522
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: Wh why? I think it was also stupid about him,

523
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 1: like here's another person that's not part of the high mind,

524
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 1: that's just like you, and you don't want to talk

525
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 1: to them. Why not?

526
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 3: He thought she didn't know. He didn't.

527
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 2: He thought she told him, but he thought everybody had switched.

528
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 3: It was into the tape.

529
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 2: He hadn't even talked to anyone and realized that he

530
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: he thought he was the only person left.

531
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he didn't know it was twelve or thirteen

532
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 4: high verymen. He was he didn't know any of that

533
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 4: because he didn't. He ain't fuck with them.

534
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: At all, nobody because even that lady was his mom, right,

535
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: they kept drop that was his mom.

536
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 3: He was like, He's like, yeah, my mom was a piece,

537
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 3: like it was a bitch or something. He said, Like

538
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, is that the episode we're on?

539
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: We're on episode four, which is pleased Carol. Here, Carol

540
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 2: seeks answers whether the joining is reversible. She tests the

541
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 2: truth serum on Zosa to uncover deeper truths, but the

542
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 2: others resist and complications escalate from there. What did you

543
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 2: think about her method to trying to get the truth

544
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 2: out of her by Carol's method.

545
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 3: It made it made sense. It was kind of foul

546
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 3: because she was all fucked up in the hospital bed,

547
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 3: but yeah, I'd have done the same thing at this point,

548
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 3: I'm not fucking loyal to you yet, so yeah, I'm

549
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 3: a drug you and get you to tell me the truth.

550
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 3: I was surprised at that work.

551
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 1: Why.

552
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 2: It just seemed like it it kind of did it

553
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 2: really caught herself right?

554
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 1: Yeah?

555
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and then and then the high mind came

556
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 4: when they realized what was happening.

557
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would have worked if they wouldn't have showed up.

558
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 2: You had done the same thing.

559
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 3: You.

560
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: Well, the other question is did they feel threatened by

561
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: what was going on and that's why they intervened. I

562
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: think that was great, And I'm still into the show

563
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: because I'm like, now we're getting somewhere. Now we're going

564
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: to start getting some answers to what's going on, and

565
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: they just wropped the ball from here. But uh, this

566
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: was this was a good episode. And the way they

567
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 1: walked up all still polite and pleasant and ship like that,

568
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: but still also look threatening and you know, uh, menacing

569
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: in this weird sort of way. It was just like, man,

570
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 1: what the hell is going on? But they were like, man, hey,

571
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: you don't win too goddamn far.

572
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. They didn't look

573
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 4: as polite as time. They looked concerned at time, like

574
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 4: they didn't look as they wore.

575
00:27:58,520 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

576
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: It was a little bit of stop Carrol stop. Yeah,

577
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: but they just left like her.

578
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 3: They packed up everything, cut the lights out, was dope.

579
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: That was the whole.

580
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 2: Like everything that was interesting, it was it was. It

581
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: was interesting in the storytelling aspect, But I don't think

582
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: that the way that they played it out it wasn't interesting,

583
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 2: because then that's when we get all this time with

584
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: her a long when she's just not doing anything. They

585
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 2: it could have been more interesting.

586
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 3: I think, See, this is the yeah I'm with you,

587
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 3: I'm just saying I'm right with you. This is like, bro,

588
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 3: I want to speak down the hill. But this is

589
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: also when I was like, oh, I see what's going

590
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 3: on with with Carol and why she changed her mind?

591
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 3: What happened so is this is this the episode where

592
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 3: Zosha comes back or is that the next one?

593
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: Well, so I think it's what it's non total, it's

594
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: nine episode so five six because she finds the food.

595
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Spike, you hoston, no go ahead, because I

596
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: think these next three are kind of all this together.

597
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, the next three pretty much done. Happens. She finds

598
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 2: out what their nutrient source is with that milk, with

599
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 2: the human in there, the wolves, the.

600
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 3: Wolves I didn't understands. I didn't give a fuck about either,

601
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 3: but the human eating human parts. I was like, Okay,

602
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 3: now we're gonna go somewhere. Psych didn't.

603
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: It didn't.

604
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 3: It went fucking nowhere. It went fucking nowhere.

605
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,239
Speaker 2: I thought it was a lot more sinister. Yeah, it

606
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 2: was just like some normal stuff.

607
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 4: And then so what I liked that they had an

608
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 4: answer for that too. Yeah, they had seen everything of

609
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 4: all things.

610
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.

611
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: Funny it it went nowhere. And I was with you guys,

612
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: are like, oh, ship, we're about to get some ship

613
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: because it easily it was obviously a body in there

614
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: or something. But they made it seem like the way

615
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: they did it was a not moral way, but it

616
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: was the best way they can do it without violating

617
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: the rules.

618
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, so they would never let you, will never make

619
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 4: you injustice if it's it's totally up to you.

620
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: But she would need to if she's part of the

621
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: hog mind in order to live. Yeah, she's part of

622
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: high mind. But now she's herself, right.

623
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,479
Speaker 4: So Yeah, I like this part because I feel like,

624
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 4: I won't say troupe, but I feel like that's what

625
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 4: we would expect, right, expect like, oh, yeah, they're eating

626
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 4: people whateverever. So the fact that they were able to

627
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 4: even debunk that as well, I was like, damn, they

628
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 4: are really writing.

629
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: The ship out this story to me, Yeah, that was

630
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: very detailed.

631
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're only eating people that die, yeah, you know,

632
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: from natural cause or whatever the causes are. But the

633
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: fact that you can't even pick apple.

634
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 2: It can't harm any living things crazy, that's stupid.

635
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 4: The argument that I'm sure he has with people the

636
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 4: whole like plants are living all of that stuff, like,

637
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 4: you know, So they even tackled that, That's what I'm saying,

638
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 4: Like they were tackling a lot of things that people say,

639
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 4: and I'm just like, oh, they're really right there. I

640
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 4: thought they were writing their ass off on this personally.

641
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: But I think the thing is like, because now I

642
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: got questions about this, like, how have you survived up

643
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: to this point? Were you? Because you're what some type

644
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: of parasite that needs a human host, but the human

645
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: holes or the host they don't necessarily have to be

646
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: human needs sustenance in order to stay alive. And if

647
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: you don't harm anything, what have you done outside of

648
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: this point?

649
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 4: That's why they said that the resources are limited, which

650
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 4: is why they only last for like ten years.

651
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 3: They said they only live like ten more years. Yeah,

652
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 3: but that just seemed that just seemed dumb because it

653
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 3: was like, Okay, I get you can't harm anything, but

654
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 3: what if you're what if you're discussing the idea of

655
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 3: waste and apple will eventually just fall off the tree

656
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 3: and rot it falls off? Is that what they said?

657
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: They just can't pick it, but they can follow, But

658
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: it's still still stupid. So an apple that falls off

659
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: a tree.

660
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: Is no longer living that Yeah, yes, it's not a

661
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 2: text stid is.

662
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: That what I'm saying? So, but think about before they

663
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: in fact that the humans though, well, yeah, was this

664
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: thing did it? Like? We don't know anything about it?

665
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: There to come out of space. Was it created? So

666
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: they came from where they.

667
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 3: Came out of space. Remember, at the very beginning of

668
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 3: the show, the guy was saying like, oh, we're getting

669
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 3: a that's what the signal from five hundred light years away.

670
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 3: So what did you do there? Maybe they didn't need sustenance.

671
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 3: It only needs sustenance because it's joining with the human unties.

672
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: They said that. They did say that they only need

673
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: nutrition because there is a human form.

674
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 4: That's what they're saying. It's not technically a virus virus.

675
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 4: It's like just way host to you, like a host

676
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 4: or something like that.

677
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: And why the hell are you in the human body?

678
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: Then if you.

679
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 2: Don't, they said, they did all of it. Since they

680
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: have mind, they get all of the research or whatever

681
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: may be, and this was the best way that they

682
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: could sustain their population.

683
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 3: It's going to take over a human body and doing

684
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 3: it that stupid? Agree, But did you.

685
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but because you're alien creature that comes to Earth,

686
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: it's not a creature. You're an alien and you occupy

687
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: this body. But wherever you came from you didn't need it.

688
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: So your only way of surviving on Earth is to

689
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: occupy a body, but you have a set of rules.

690
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: So then I have questions about like wherever planet or

691
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: wherever you came from, you didn't need that, Like, I

692
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm just now I'm going down all this

693
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: rabbit hole of all these different sort of questions about it. Yeah,

694
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: and we haven't gotten the rules or the reasons why

695
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense.

696
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: I think it's unacceptable from nine episodes not to have

697
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 2: the answers, like at least a premise of it. Jesus,

698
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: Like we just went through the whole thing. I just

699
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 2: told us, Okay, this is what's going on. But to

700
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 2: give us any answer, that's because you're.

701
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: Putting off like we are a non violent entity and

702
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: we've always been this way and that is our rules.

703
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: So I don't know. Yeah, I understanding them wanting to conserve.

704
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 4: Humans, like not harming them not you know, because then

705
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 4: they would live longer because you know, you're protecting that

706
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 4: human body to those.

707
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's gonna die in ten years, whereas the

708
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 3: human body would have lived longer than that. So you

709
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 3: really made things worse.

710
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: And is the enron? Is the earth environment not conducive

711
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: to their regular Yeah, regular life form.

712
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 3: I thought it was just because they couldn't eat, so

713
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 3: they were I thought it was because, like they were,

714
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 3: they were figuring out that if we continue eating the

715
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 3: way we are, we're not gonna get get enough nutrients

716
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 3: to keep because they also don't procreate, so they're not

717
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 3: gonna have children. What is this? So yeah, so I

718
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 3: think they're they're like, well, if we if we can't

719
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 3: pick fruit, we can't eat it off the ground. We're

720
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 3: factoring in if we keep doing that, we're only gonna

721
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 3: last ten years because we don't have enough food. They

722
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 3: said they didn't procreate. I'm pretty sure they said that.

723
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: I and the human them, I don't think they'll be

724
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: able to procreate.

725
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 2: But I was just so, what if they, like the

726
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 2: guy that had all the girls, what if he had

727
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 2: sex with one of them and get them pregnant, they

728
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: wouldn't be able to have a baby because of the

729
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 2: natural human body functions still work. I'm assumed, Well, then

730
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 2: pro create then, because it's what a lot of them, right,

731
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 2: So it's safe to assume that, you know.

732
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: A lot of them came here.

733
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 3: It's all I thought it was all one. It's just

734
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 3: no there, they're all one being. So it's not like

735
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 3: a bunch of them came and they infected other bodies.

736
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 3: I thought it was everything is one being, That's what

737
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 3: I thought.

738
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 2: She was explaining that the massage thing. She was like,

739
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: we all share the same feeling.

740
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 1: Like, no, I guess they all share that.

741
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 2: But but you said, it's just one individual thing.

742
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: Don't remember when it got out of whatever? Because that

743
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: thing it got out of that and then she infected

744
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: another person a person?

745
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 3: Right, what thing are you talking about?

746
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: So when they were running the experiments on it in

747
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: the lab and it broke out of the lab and

748
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: infected the first person.

749
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 3: Why don't I remember that?

750
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: What lab?

751
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: Wherever they were at in some wherever because this at

752
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: the beginning, this in the very first episode, and infected

753
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: one of the scientists, and I forgot how it got out,

754
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 1: but infected one of the scientists, and then she the scientists,

755
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: infected the other scientists by kissing them. Oh I do

756
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: so are we're saying that that the the way that

757
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: called zero patient zero is the one that's controlling everything.

758
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:39,959
Speaker 3: That's how I.

759
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: Took it, and that, oh okay.

760
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 3: That's how I took it. The only one alien came

761
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 3: to Earth, and that one alien was infecting people one

762
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 3: by one and then they're all tied to a hive mind.

763
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 3: That's how I understood it.

764
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 1: But so it's not okay, okay, But.

765
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 3: Maybe it's one hundred thousand of them came to Earth

766
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 3: and they're all I don't know.

767
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: That's what I was starting to think. But that's even

768
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: crazy if it's one person that's controlling all of them.

769
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: There's one alienk controlling all of them, so that would

770
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: start to answer some questions.

771
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,840
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781
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Speaker 3: per Second. Episode six is HDP.

782
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 2: This is when Carol goes to Vegas and she learns

783
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 2: to disturbing truths, like we said about the diet and

784
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 2: the other's existence. Did y'all like the other dude in Vegas,

785
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 2: the James Bond will skip. Was he getting on your

786
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 2: nerves with your annoying It was a good character when

787
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 2: they were playing poke at the table. Don't break character,

788
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 2: the brown guy.

789
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 3: No, It's like, man, I mean, it was an interesting

790
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: thing because I can see that's what a lot of

791
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 3: men would do. But I just at this point I

792
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 3: didn't care anymore. I was just like, I don't I

793
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 3: don't care about any of this.

794
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: After she looked into that thing and saw what I

795
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: guess what it ended up being a body, I was like,

796
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna just wait. I tapped out

797
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: at that point, so I was out of there. So

798
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: thank god I was, because oh my.

799
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 2: God, bro, that's so I ran it because that's the

800
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 2: exact place I stopped too. I'm not watching this. No

801
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 2: move to this end like no, because we weren't doing

802
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 2: ship you left. It were like, bro, come on, I

803
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 2: would have wanted to see what Time would do in Vegas,

804
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 2: just to see what he was up to. That would

805
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 2: have been way entertaining than Carroll trying to figure this out.

806
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, this whole thing with him, I think I think

807
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: they could have used him more, you know, to break

808
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: up the monotony of her just always just walking around,

809
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 1: not saying it, not doing ship. But but no, it wasn't.

810
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: It wasn't. I'm with Mike. You definitely would see people

811
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: doing some wild ship like this. He had a plane,

812
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: he had all kind of ship man week.

813
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: It was funny. Also in this episode, Minosius, the guy

814
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 2: who were talking about with the radio, he starts making

815
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 2: his way towards Caro and he's insistent that he doesn't

816
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 2: want any help in that he trucks through the Amazon jungle.

817
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: Bro, I looked that place up.

818
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 3: The clipped.

819
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 2: It's crazy because you can't go it's nothing's there but

820
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 2: like cartil and jungle roads or nothing.

821
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 3: That's why it was fucking irritating, stupid because it's so

822
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 3: big and it's like just let them take you. Yeah,

823
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 3: I know he doesn't trust them and all that, but

824
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 3: it was just like, Bro, you're seriously gonna walk through this.

825
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: Jungle three days? I think I read it. It would

826
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: take to walk that whole thing.

827
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not traveled, so it's dense and like

828
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 2: it ain't no paths or anything like that. That was

829
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 2: the only time I said, like, oh, ship in this

830
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: when he that.

831
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 3: Tree, that ship that was of course you did that,

832
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 3: of course because she just said they said something about

833
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 3: the fucking spikes or whatever in there. Of course you

834
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 3: fall into the tree. It's like, all right, man, this

835
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 3: isn't great writing to me.

836
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: I don't know. I did like the dangers of that

837
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: because I didn't know about that place, so that whole

838
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: thing was interesting.

839
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 2: That was that was smiling.

840
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 3: I was thinking.

841
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 4: I was like when they were saying, I was like, damn,

842
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 4: you can't. Yeah, I ain't never hear nobody driving to

843
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 4: fucking up South America.

844
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,439
Speaker 1: Was right there. It was you should have just taken them.

845
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: But you know, but it's.

846
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 4: Only because of that one part that you can't drive

847
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 4: to South America. It's just because of that one.

848
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 2: And they tried to build there, they said they tried

849
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: to build there before. They just could not.

850
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: Think that's interesting and that tree is real. I was like,

851
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 1: that fucking tree is real, bro.

852
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 3: You know what.

853
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 4: It reminds me of like Life of Pie. Remember that, y'all.

854
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 4: I've seen that, and like, how oh that ship is real?

855
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 4: Like some of that stuff.

856
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

857
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he of course gets himself. Like we said

858
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: about the tree, he has to go to the hospital

859
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 2: that tree and he pays for it. That he's just

860
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 2: an episode seven the Gap, and this is where Carol

861
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 2: is struggling with depression. Where the hell he get all

862
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 2: this money from? He wrote, I owe you a nigga

863
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 2: can be paid. He wrote down eye such and money.

864
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 3: At first.

865
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: He's putting money on people's vehicles at first, but that

866
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: was for gas.

867
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was like seven thousand dollars he said. Yeah,

868
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 3: they said.

869
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 2: He was like, I owe you eye such and such.

870
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 2: Owe you seven thousand such and such dollar. That's what

871
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 2: he wrote at the bottom.

872
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: Of the paper. Mm hmm. This was the one where

873
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 1: they broke Carol.

874
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was struggling with depression. Fireworks seemed to help.

875
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: She left the one file right by her head for

876
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 2: some reason, and then she goes to get the paint

877
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: and she says, come back, what y'all thin?

878
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: So marknestion to you guys, is was this her asking? Well,

879
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: I guess we've showing her emotional response to it, but

880
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: it seemed like I was wondering if she did this

881
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: to get more information on them, or if she really broke.

882
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: I thought she genuinely broke. She was like I think

883
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: she was just genuinely lonely, like it just was subbering

884
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 2: from Cavin Peeve and just like being by herself.

885
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: You don't think she was manipulating them.

886
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: Once they got there. I think that she understood she

887
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 2: could get information in a different way than she was

888
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 2: trying to at first, so she started kind of like

889
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 2: leaning into that. But I think originally the comeback message

890
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 2: was I just need to be around some people. Then

891
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: when she started being more open to the girl and

892
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 2: she started learning stuff like just through random conversation, I

893
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 2: think it became more poignant that she wanted to learn more.

894
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: I think it was more about the girl.

895
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 4: She didn't care because, like you said earlier, she don't

896
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 4: care about being around people.

897
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 3: I think it just she wants a companion.

898
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 4: But in order to get that companion, everybody has to

899
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 4: come back, and she's willing to sacrifice everybody coming back

900
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 4: just to be able to get that one companion.

901
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 3: It's what I thought, what'd you think I think she's

902
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 3: being drugged. I think she's being drugged, and I think

903
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 3: that's that's why because she wouldn't eat their food. She

904
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 3: was making her own food. Once she gets all dressed

905
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 3: up and she goes out for that night on the

906
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 3: town by herself and she eats the food they made.

907
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 3: It seems like that's when the shift started. So I

908
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 3: started thinking when you look back at the earlier episodes,

909
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 3: Remember they kept focusing on the fact that that Columbian

910
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 3: guy would not eat their food. Whenever they would bring food,

911
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 3: he kept pushing it over. I think that there's something

912
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 3: in the food. Everybody else is eating the food and

913
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 3: drinking the drinks, and I think that whatever is in

914
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 3: that food is placating those people and making them more

915
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 3: susceptible to accepting. These people in Carol refused to eat

916
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 3: it until this episode. So I was like, Oh, so

917
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 3: there's something in this food that's making them Because I

918
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 3: was like, why is he so like the guy so defiant,

919
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 3: And then when they showed the guy being the Manudo's guy,

920
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 3: whatever his name is, And then when they showed the

921
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 3: pimp dude, I was like, Oh, he's just doing whatever.

922
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 3: He's drinking all the drinks they make. Because they kept

923
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 3: focusing on minute shit. They kept focusing on, like the

924
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 3: alien people making the drinks and then bringing it over

925
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 3: and they would focus on the drink being put on

926
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 3: the table. So I think that they were drugging the

927
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 3: drinks and it's some kind of like, you know, something

928
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 3: in the in the drinks to make them more comfortable

929
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 3: being part of this hive mind. So yeah, it was

930
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 3: probably loneliness too, and it was partly she kind of

931
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 3: has like a weird crush on this girl. But the

932
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 3: way she broke down, I was like, ah, nah, there's

933
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 3: something in that fucking food.

934
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: Do you think she just missed the girl reminded her

935
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 2: of her wife and she missed her.

936
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 3: I don't think the girl reminded her of her wife,

937
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 3: because she didn't look nothing like her wife, she didn't

938
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 3: act nothing like her wife. I think that she wanted

939
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 3: a companionship, of course, because she's been alone. But I

940
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 3: think that her being alone and actively eating whatever the

941
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 3: fuck they were giving her made her change a bit,

942
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 3: especially in the next episode, because then we see she's

943
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 3: really just kind of going all in.

944
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 2: Based on Vince's history that that is a really good

945
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 2: point because he did that twice in Breaking Back. Well,

946
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 2: he would show something and you're like, how fuck are

947
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 2: you showing this plant out of nowhere and then walk

948
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 2: used a plant to kill somebody. Well, they would show

949
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 2: the lady doing a little Splendor packet and Walt had

950
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 2: snuck some poison in the Splendor packet after she was

951
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: drunk it. So that makes sense what you're saying, because

952
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 2: he definitely uses it.

953
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: Huh, question for you for everybody? I guess would that

954
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: violate the rules though?

955
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 3: M because they think that it's toxic niceness. They think that.

956
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 2: Drug her being them, being one of them is better

957
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 2: than her being.

958
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: But drugging someone, you're intentionally alternating their mind state to

959
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: go along with your wishes them removes Yeah, but at

960
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: that point, now for the people that left, they need

961
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 1: their consent because they're immon.

962
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 3: But they lied about that. They remember that because when

963
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 3: we see at the end they didn't really, So that

964
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 3: last episode makes you question if they've been lying about

965
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 3: shit the whole fucking time or just like stretching the

966
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 3: truth or just like gaslighting into making you think like, oh,

967
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 3: this is what we meant, but you just kind of

968
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 3: took it that way. So yeah, like everything that they're

969
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 3: doing to me is just like we think we know

970
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 3: what's best for you. And if you aren't going to

971
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 3: agree with what we want to do, we're going to

972
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 3: trick you into agreeing with what we want you to do.

973
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: I think that when she went to the dinner and

974
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: she looked around and there was nobody there, she got

975
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 1: dressed up, she probably remember what life was like when

976
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: everybody was there, and I think that's when she started

977
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: to break and then cracked and asked them to come back.

978
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what the fuck is she doing with

979
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: the paint? Uh? And I was, yeah when she painted,

980
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: I was, but I ain't. I'm not gonna lie. I

981
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 1: was disappointed when she I was like, bruh, you broke.

982
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: She broke. Yeah, I'm like, what you're supposed to be like,

983
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: like you're fighting against them, you kill people, you're angry,

984
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: you're mad at everybody. But it's isolationism, Like she's just

985
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: completely isolated. The only thing she got are wolves and

986
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: fireworks and fireworks and singing songs to herself.

987
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 3: Wait, why were the why were the wolves alive?

988
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 2: Well, they couldn't do animals, remember, because I.

989
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 3: Thought all the animals died too.

990
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 2: Could remember she took him when oh, that's right, that's right.

991
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 3: I'm never mind I just I'm confusing that with the

992
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,760
Speaker 3: movie where they were sleeping at with all the beds

993
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 3: where there was a dog there. I was confusing that

994
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 3: with with We Bear the Dad that I just watched.

995
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 3: That was the rule in that movie.

996
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 2: Anyway, speaking of the animals, y'all see they lie about

997
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 2: that because she was like, y'all take pits too, was like, well,

998
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 2: only if they won't leave.

999
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, the owner the owner side. But in that last

1000
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 3: episode when they overtook that girl, the little baby, the

1001
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 3: goat was trying to stay with her, but they left

1002
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 3: the goat.

1003
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was sad. It was stat like that.

1004
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 2: So you remember the last episode open wanted to actually turn, Yeah,

1005
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 2: and then the goat was with her and they left that.

1006
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: They just left the goat once she turned. So and

1007
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 2: I found that were interesting too, just to get into

1008
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 2: the last episode, how all of those people there were

1009
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 2: infected and then they were going through that practice of

1010
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 2: you know what she usually does just because she hadn't

1011
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: been one, and as soon as they converted her, they

1012
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 2: all left, right.

1013
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: So going back real quick, just one. I think the

1014
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: reason why she started to get more information and intel

1015
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: on them is because she went to that diner that

1016
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: they built, and she started to see the person that

1017
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: the waitress that was working there. She was like, so,

1018
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: I think that's when she started to say, Okay, now

1019
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: y'all still full of shit, so I'm not with all

1020
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: this shit anymore. But she started. And it's so weird

1021
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: because I don't know what it is like did she

1022
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: started to buy in because when I guess it was

1023
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: the last episode when Manusa made it there. Okay, so

1024
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: now we'll get to where you were seeing what they

1025
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: did with that person explains that everything that they did

1026
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 1: up to this point was bullshit. It's nothing but manipulation

1027
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: and coersion. Just we're going to do everything we can

1028
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: to break you so you can voluntarily join us. We're

1029
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: gonna make you see it's gonna be okay. Everything's nice,

1030
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: it's great over here. We're gonna give you all your wishes,

1031
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera, to get them to say, okay,

1032
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: I want to be a part of you, and then

1033
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: you be a part of it, and then everything else

1034
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: is gone and then they just leave everything. They never

1035
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: said that that they didn't want her a part of

1036
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: the high. They always said, well, we're working on giving

1037
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 1: you a part of this. They said that from the jump.

1038
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, because she she even asked how long is it

1039
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 3: gonna take?

1040
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: But I thought they also said that we need you

1041
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: to he did join.

1042
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 3: They said, we need you to join, but we also

1043
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 3: need you to consent. And that's where the part they

1044
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 3: were lying. Because the guy told them that it's a

1045
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 3: surgery that they could do. They found out it's it's

1046
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 3: a surgery that they could do.

1047
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: Ye. Yes, Maybe what I'm saying is that, yeah, they've

1048
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: always wanted her to join, and they kept, you know,

1049
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 1: urging her on and trying to woo her in whatever

1050
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: way they can. When I looked at the village, I

1051
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: looked at that girl. They did the same thing to

1052
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: her too, you know, except she wasn't like Carol, you know,

1053
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: she was more open to the idea. She was like

1054
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: the other people you were talking about, you know, where

1055
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: they just kind of went along with it, and she

1056
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, fine, I'm gonna agree to join the hive.

1057
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,240
Speaker 1: And then, like you said, they just left the animal

1058
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:22,959
Speaker 1: where it was.

1059
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 2: And soon she changed over everything that they were doing.

1060
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: Soon she changed over. But it seems like throughout that

1061
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: whole process they were just it's just like somebody you see.

1062
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna give you our best representative and

1063
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna do everything. Everything's great over here. You know

1064
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: I'm the best person for you. This is great, great, great,

1065
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: And then you get there, it's like the grass isn't greener,

1066
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: you know. So with Carol, Carol was the only one

1067
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: that wasn't willing to do that, which is why it

1068
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: took so much effort to get her on board. And

1069
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: then by the time we get to this episode, a

1070
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: lot of other people have already agreed to do the process,

1071
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: and then we found out that the stem cells is

1072
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: how they managed to figure out a way to convert

1073
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: them over. The question is I think at this point

1074
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: do they still need to consent that point.

1075
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,919
Speaker 3: That's why Karen was mad, and she was like, y'all

1076
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 3: are fucking lying because she said no, she wasn't. That's

1077
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 3: what I'm trying to say.

1078
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 4: They never said okay, they never said that they didn't

1079
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:27,959
Speaker 4: want her part of the hot mind.

1080
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: They never said that.

1081
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 4: What they did say is that we're working right now

1082
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 4: to be able to take to break you, to make

1083
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 4: your joint right. The conflict comes in because she thought

1084
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 4: that they needed that they would need her consent because

1085
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 4: they couldn't, you know, without it.

1086
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 3: They explicitly said that. No, I'm saying follow me.

1087
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 1: So yeah.

1088
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 4: So when she found that out that they need her consent,

1089
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 4: she was like blank, great sigh relief, Like I ain't

1090
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 4: got to worry about y'all taking over my mind or

1091
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 4: whatever whatever.

1092
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: And that's how she chose to be with Zozi.

1093
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 4: And because y'all need my consent, right, things change when

1094
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 4: they realize they can do it do it. When they

1095
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 4: did find a way to do it through the stem cells,

1096
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 4: she was not mad about She's mad. She's mad, but

1097
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 4: that's why she was just like, well, how long? She

1098
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 4: was just like, well, how long do I have? Like

1099
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 4: because she had to accept it.

1100
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,439
Speaker 3: No, y'all, she was mad because they lied. They did

1101
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 3: lie because we now we're saying we don't need your consent.

1102
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 3: We're going to do it without your consent.

1103
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 4: Thought they only said that because they because they didn't

1104
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 4: they didn't have a solution.

1105
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 3: But no, no, no, no, no y'all buying into their lies.

1106
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: Let me say, y'all, rules, are you saying that the

1107
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: rules changed? No, I'm not saying that the rules changed.

1108
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 4: I'm just saying that the circumstances changed before, like like

1109
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 4: like the like the the guy, the guy that has

1110
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 4: all the women and everything. They would need his consent

1111
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 4: still because they don't have a way to just naturally

1112
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 4: bring him a part of the hive.

1113
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: They don't have a way to do it. They don't

1114
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: have it stem cells.

1115
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 3: They don't have it stem cells. They have her stem

1116
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 3: cells because she froze her eggs. So technically it's not

1117
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 3: against her will. It's just like how we did everybody else. No,

1118
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 3: it is against her will. They specifically said to Carol,

1119
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 3: we cannot do this without your consent. They put it

1120
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 3: on a billboard. Yeah, I know, So what do you

1121
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 3: mean It's not against because because they have her stem cells,

1122
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 3: so that's still against her consent. She never consented, all right,

1123
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 3: all right, here we go, here we go.

1124
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 4: All right, So technically they didn't have anyone's consent, right, So, yes,

1125
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 4: y'all are right in that, in that sensus, right, but

1126
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 4: they never said that they didn't want to bring her.

1127
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: We're past that.

1128
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 3: But we're past that. But that's the conflict. No, the

1129
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 3: conflict is consent. No, yes, it is, God it is.

1130
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1131
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: I think I think the stem cells is the thing

1132
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: that's introduced that's causing the conflict and what is happening because.

1133
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 3: She thought they could not do anything to her unless

1134
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 3: they did the operation on her, and they said, we

1135
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 3: will not do any of this without your consent. Right,

1136
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 3: So then they figured out they could use the stem

1137
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 3: cells from the Yeah, so.

1138
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 4: She could just do what we could, just do what

1139
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 4: we did do to you, what we did to everybody.

1140
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 3: Else, right, which is against her consent. I don't disagree

1141
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 3: with that.

1142
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 4: When no, no, no no, when I said, I told you,

1143
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 4: I'm aware that they didn't have anybody's consent just to

1144
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 4: begin with, right, Okay, all I'm saying is that that

1145
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 4: particular consent thing was what they were saying that they

1146
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 4: they're not they're not allowed to just force the force

1147
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 4: her into.

1148
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: It that way. Okay, let me but they can do

1149
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 1: it through the stem cells. Okay, let me back up.

1150
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: So I try to get some more clarity what the

1151
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,399
Speaker 1: two levels of consent? So so.

1152
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet.

1153
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:12,760
Speaker 1: Like what okay, because I think the rules are starting

1154
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: to become confusing. So because they had to perform a

1155
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: surgery on her, that's the content they're saying that they

1156
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 1: need her consent to do the surgery because maybe to them,

1157
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 1: that is afflicting on that particular person and they can't

1158
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: do that.

1159
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 3: We're not violating consents, violating it At that point.

1160
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 2: I get what you're saying that, how did it affect?

1161
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 2: I took that the wrong way. I thought that they

1162
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 2: would infect a child like from her age.

1163
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: It's still it's themselves, so it's still party.

1164
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 3: They said, have had her eggs.

1165
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 2: I thought they were gonna have to. I didn't know

1166
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 2: that she was gonna get affected if they used that.

1167
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 3: You thought she was bad and they were infecting a vetus.

1168
00:56:55,920 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, so that's so now we can we can

1169
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 5: bring you into the hive without physically harming you, and

1170
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,959
Speaker 5: we therefore we don't need your consent like we didn't

1171
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 5: need consent to anybody else in this.

1172
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 4: That's why she accepted, just like how many days do

1173
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 4: I have? She like, damn, y'all got me.

1174
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 3: But she was, but she was still mad about it.

1175
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 4: She wasn't mad like it's it's it's a different type

1176
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 4: of mad man.

1177
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 2: She was manipulating her, right, that's what we like a

1178
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 2: relationship manipulation.

1179
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: They were doing that too, Yes, yeah, that Zozie or

1180
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: whatever her name is. All of that wasna.

1181
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 3: Yes, to keep her playcated until she can figure out

1182
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 3: how to bring her forcefully.

1183
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: Which they were lying.

1184
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 3: Yes, Harold didn't think that that's what they were doing.

1185
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 3: Carol thought she was just gonna be cool until they

1186
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 3: you know, until whatever. Unless she actually consented to them

1187
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 3: doing the surgery.

1188
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: She turned into the guy that was doing James Bond stuff. Yes,

1189
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: she got fantasy, Yes, exactly. So going back to this thing,

1190
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: because it's a very confused part of the show, is

1191
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: that so with everybody else, since they don't have their

1192
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: stem cells, they need consent from them because it will

1193
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: requires service.

1194
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 4: I get okay, yes, all right, cool, Yes, they can't

1195
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 4: do that. So that's why I say they're not necessarily lying.

1196
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 4: So she's the only one.

1197
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 3: In the grand scope of things. Yes, they are, because

1198
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 3: we don't know their actual intentions. You know what I'm saying,

1199
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 3: They lie by omission. There you go, We on the

1200
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 3: stand page.

1201
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, all right. The last episode was like she

1202
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 2: got old el Mondo, and this is where Minosius arrives

1203
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 2: and clashes with Carol.

1204
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: Before we get there too, the girl that did it,

1205
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: like the ritual thing.

1206
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:47,479
Speaker 3: I think they got.

1207
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 4: That's that's how they That's how they were able to

1208
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 4: do it with her too, because she didn't have to

1209
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 4: do the operation, even though she willingly wanted to do.

1210
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 4: You'll remember she had to sniff the she was whatever,

1211
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 4: and they didn't have to do the needle thing that

1212
00:58:58,360 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 4: they said they were gonna do.

1213
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 3: I took it. No, I took it that they already

1214
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 3: did it. And that's what that smoke was. They did

1215
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 3: the operation, they put it in whatever that little thing

1216
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 3: he was, and they were like, go ahead and take that,

1217
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 3: and that's what changed her.

1218
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: Oh you think they did operation on her, yes, because

1219
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: otherwise do it.

1220
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 4: I thought they did a stem cell thing with her too,

1221
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 4: But it's just how they found out they can do

1222
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 4: sims stem cells.

1223
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 3: Oh wait a minute, that would take a lot of guessing,

1224
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 3: because they never implied that that girl even had any

1225
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 3: stem cells laying around.

1226
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 4: I understand they didn't imply it, but how would we

1227
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 4: know that. That's how did they figure out, that's how

1228
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 4: we can do it.

1229
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 3: Because they found Carol's DNA in that because they said

1230
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 3: all we need is DNA.

1231
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, So.

1232
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 3: They found her DNA in this because they know everything

1233
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 3: right because they have their they have the brain of

1234
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 3: the doctors and all that. So I think at one

1235
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 3: point they figured out, oh, our doctor part of us

1236
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 3: remembers that Carol was doing stem cells.

1237
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: So why did they just now find out about that? Though?

1238
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 3: Maybe I think it took them, sorry Ken, real quick.

1239
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 3: I think it just took them a while to figure

1240
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 3: out that they could use the stem cells to do that.

1241
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 3: That's why I'm saying.

1242
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 4: That's why I thought they got the idea from the

1243
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 4: Peruvian girl.

1244
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 3: But that would take a lot of implying though, because

1245
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 3: they never even said anything about that girl.

1246
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: Unless I missed it, I think they may have already

1247
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: been working on it away once. Maybe the idea of

1248
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: the stem sell like, oh, we got stem cells, can

1249
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: we use something with stem cells? And the brilliant minds guy.

1250
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: I thought the Peruvian girls flashback from the past.

1251
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 3: I did too, I didn't. I thought that she was

1252
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 3: at the dinner. So I think the Peruvian girl just

1253
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 3: gave in because they she was really a part of community,

1254
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 3: and that's why it made it very They made it

1255
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 3: a very big point about the ritual thing. And then

1256
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 3: the second she became one of them, they all bounced.

1257
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 3: They killed community and it killed the Yeah, so I

1258
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 3: think I think that she just gave in.

1259
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: So they were they were in that community, pretending like

1260
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: they were still part of the community, pretending She was

1261
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: like stopped saying the eye. She was used yourself and

1262
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: she kept trying to use her own like pronoun whatever.

1263
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 3: But yeah, oh yeah, she was having a hard time

1264
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 3: doing that saying.

1265
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 1: I yep, yeah, but have to do it because it's

1266
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: more that's what Carol was asking for.

1267
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 3: When when she when they fucked, I was like, oh,

1268
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 3: there we go.

1269
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,439
Speaker 2: She was like she was with Caroen knows was opening.

1270
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 3: She doing a little cold or something. She ate the

1271
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 3: food and ate something.

1272
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 1: All right. Man.

1273
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 2: The last episode, Minosis and Carol finally meet each other.

1274
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 2: They class of course, it was hilarious and having a

1275
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,439
Speaker 2: conversation with the phone. I love that was real.

1276
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 3: That was actually really good. That was really good, right,

1277
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 3: especially when when he dropped the phone and the thing

1278
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 3: and it was still trying to get it out and

1279
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 3: he was like, god, damn it, shut up, and it

1280
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 3: was like it was it was really good.

1281
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1282
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 2: So of course they go back and forth. He tries

1283
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 2: to convince Carol who's following love and it's thinking about

1284
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 2: doing it and he tells you that it's bad.

1285
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: He was talking shit to its. He was hard. He

1286
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: was like, you want this or do you want the

1287
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 1: girl or something like that.

1288
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:15,959
Speaker 3: You want to say the world or you want the girl?

1289
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, And they finally come to the same page and

1290
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 2: an Adam bomb is delivered.

1291
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: That shit was crazy, but he Carol again became the

1292
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 1: other guy and he was based. Carol tried. It was like, bro,

1293
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 1: what are you doing?

1294
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 3: But yeah, but if you think about it, he still

1295
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 3: has not eaten any of their food.

1296
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 2: Is that what you were saying that you.

1297
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:42,479
Speaker 3: Said, Yeah, yeah, I feel like he is still gung

1298
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 3: ho because he hasn't eaten. I know I could be

1299
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 3: completely one hundred percent wrong, but that's just what I

1300
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 3: was figuring. He still has anything from right right right.

1301
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he hates him and I think he's right. He

1302
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 1: was like, they're listening to everything and she's going to

1303
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: have become more trustworthy.

1304
01:02:58,200 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 3: That part till I'm glad you brought that up, because

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01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 3: at the very beginning she was super paranoid about everything.

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01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 3: But at the end she was like, why would they

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Speaker 3: bug my house? What are you talking about? And I

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01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 3: was like, wait a minute, five episodes ago, you thought

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Speaker 3: they were bugging everything. And the only difference again is

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Speaker 3: I think she's started eating the food or drinking the

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01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 3: proverbial kool aid. I think the difference, too, is that

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Speaker 3: she's had more interactions with them and have more study

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Speaker 3: on them than he does.

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Speaker 1: True.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's had no interactions.

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Speaker 4: With like, look, they can't lie, they can't do this

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Speaker 4: like I've I've been experienced for the last how many days,

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Speaker 4: a month, three months?

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Speaker 3: At this point, I can't remember what it said. Seventy days. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: she was about was about to shoot him over the

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Speaker 3: theme that she hates.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember that.

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Speaker 3: When did she put a gun on him?

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Speaker 4: She shot it when she came into the house. Was

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Speaker 4: it at she shot it past him? Let her let

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Speaker 4: uh get away from from whatever?

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01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 1: When he was trying to No, no, he was screaming

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Speaker 1: at the guy. Yeah, because jo jall fell out.

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Speaker 3: Do not remember this part.

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Speaker 4: I believe y'all because she was just like, all right,

1331
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 4: something's about to happen or whatever. Zoja was like something's

1332
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 4: about to happen on the floor, and she started doing

1333
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 4: a convosing thing so that she said, oh, it got

1334
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 4: to be him. So that's when she ran over with

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Speaker 4: the gun.

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Speaker 3: So what was he doing.

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Speaker 4: He was trying to get it to match some type

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Speaker 4: of frequency, understand what they were saying.

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01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: So how they communicated.

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Speaker 3: So he just hit the wrong frequency and it fucked

1341
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 3: him up. Nah, No, he was he was purposely.

1342
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 4: Yelling at him to get him to do that convulsion

1343
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 4: ship or whatever. And it's just because when they're going

1344
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 4: through that, they give off a frequency, they give off

1345
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 4: a frequency, and he was just trying.

1346
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 2: To match it and see what it would do if

1347
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 2: they did.

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Speaker 1: That, you know.

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Speaker 4: And then and that's why he was just like, you know,

1350
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 4: the person that they they took over, he think that

1351
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 4: they're still in there, and he's just like, yo, I

1352
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 4: know you.

1353
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 3: Can hear me. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay.

1354
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 4: So so why why the signal was down. He's trying

1355
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 4: to get to the person. Yeah, yeah, he thinks the

1356
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 4: person is still alive. He just needs he just needs

1357
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 4: to break that signal so he can talk to the

1358
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 4: person or whatever. But the person's been in that body,

1359
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 4: in that state for so long, it's probably gonna be

1360
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 4: hard to get through to them.

1361
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 1: Imagine like coming out of that if you have still

1362
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: awareness of everything, you.

1363
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 3: Wake up something, y'all'll let you in Spanish?

1364
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 2: Okay, interesting, So did y'all like the end of.

1365
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 1: It was? It was a dramatic ending, yeah, bringing the

1366
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 1: atomic bomb, but it's just like, bro, like, now you

1367
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 1: know she had to go through that.

1368
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 2: I like, it can't take forever to come back. I

1369
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 2: would say, it's just the only way the end it

1370
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 2: gonna be, like they need to continue this story like

1371
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 2: six months and I'm waiting two years to see the

1372
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 2: rest of this.

1373
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 3: See that's the problem I had. I don't think this

1374
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 3: was a good ending for this season. It was like,

1375
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 3: y'all didn't do enough in this show to end it

1376
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 3: like this, because this does not have me hyped to

1377
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 3: see what happens after this, not at all, I am.

1378
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 4: Because it's because of the unanswered questions, you know what

1379
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 4: I'm saying, What are their intentions?

1380
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:20,959
Speaker 1: Like world peace? It's not though you don't think so, Yeah,

1381
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1382
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 3: So why would they let themselves die?

1383
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 1: And they say they can't lie either, but they might

1384
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 1: be lying about that though the same shit they lie

1385
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 1: like a motherbuger.

1386
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

1387
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 1: It's a very actuist. I don't know. It's it's weird

1388
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 1: to be this alien from out of space, like, oh yeah,

1389
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 1: we just want everybody to get along.

1390
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 2: Like why did y'all come here and invade us to

1391
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 2: tell you?

1392
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,439
Speaker 3: Well, because they probably didn't know that the bodies would

1393
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 3: not be able to sustain themselves. Maybe I don't.

1394
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 1: Know, but you know, it's and it's again, like throughout

1395
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 1: the whole episode, they kept saying over and over again,

1396
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 1: we're going to get you as part of the hot

1397
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 1: It's going to happen, and one way or the other,

1398
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 1: you know, we just don't know why you haven't converted over.

1399
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 1: We got our scientists working on it, and at some

1400
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 1: point we're gonna convert you over. So even though there's

1401
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 1: and that was before CONSENTI that came up, right, didn't

1402
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 1: come up until later. So to your point, Rob, the

1403
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,959
Speaker 1: whole season, every episode they were like, yeah, we're gonna

1404
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 1: we want you to be a part of it. We

1405
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 1: just know right now, we don't know how to do it,

1406
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 1: but we're gonna do it. We're gonna figure it out. Yeah,

1407
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 1: at some point we're gonna figure this shit out. So

1408
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 1: you might as well just just agree, yeah, as.

1409
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 2: Vince does in his other shows, before we rap. I

1410
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 2: just want to share this. I thought it was generation.

1411
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 2: The colors had meanings here like he did with Breaking

1412
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 2: bed with a Colors represent different things. Just a brief

1413
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 2: synopsis of it's a dope YouTube video out there on

1414
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 2: this if y'all want to hear more about it. But

1415
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 2: yellow represented the human, the individual world, personal identity, joy,

1416
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 2: and the normal everyday life. You would see monocious and yellow.

1417
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 2: You would see Carol in yellow. Blue signified the hive

1418
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 2: mind collectuses them and comfort uh the emerging new world.

1419
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 2: Blue imagery, like vast oceans, cold settings often surrounds the

1420
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 2: hives influence, so you'll see a lot of blue when

1421
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 2: it's the hive around. Red signals danger, violence or harm.

1422
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 2: Purple was sometimes appearing in the blend of hope and love.

1423
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 2: Green may suggests in difference with a mix of yellow

1424
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 2: and blue themes, and white often symbolize that death or

1425
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 2: surrender in TV and film through this least prominent. So

1426
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 2: that's a dope video about how they use the colors,

1427
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 2: and they show the scenes as to where like what

1428
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 2: Mike was saying, when you she started to be more

1429
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 2: open towards the hive mind, she would have blue she

1430
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 2: had blue on, like she would have a yellow shirt,

1431
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 2: but the jacket would be blue or something like that.

1432
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 2: So I thought that was really interesting.

1433
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:45,680
Speaker 3: Color theory is definitely.

1434
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 1: Out of many one. I think that's what that means.

1435
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 1: Out of many one, all right.

1436
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:56,679
Speaker 4: But yeah, No, the other thing too that I'm looking

1437
01:08:56,680 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 4: forward to is just like, you know, like why are

1438
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,759
Speaker 4: they immune? Like why are these twelve people immune?

1439
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 3: Like what is it about these people? That's what I

1440
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 3: like to know to you know what I'm saying.

1441
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 4: So it's still things that I want to know that

1442
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 4: I would tune into a season two.

1443
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 2: For a lot of different ways that they could go with.

1444
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 2: I just hope it gets more entertaining. It's interesting. I

1445
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 2: don't know if it's entertaining. So I'm definitely here for

1446
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 2: to see the rest of it, how it plays out.

1447
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 2: But again, it took me four times to really sit

1448
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 2: down and watch Better Call Saw so and that's one

1449
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 2: of my favorite show.

1450
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I Better Call SAUW. Yeah yeah, but you can

1451
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 1: watch it not Rod and get it full and drumming

1452
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 1: out of it. But yeah, like.

1453
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 2: It took it took three seasons for you to really

1454
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 2: get a grasp on what was like, Oh, Okay, I

1455
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 2: get it them and.

1456
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:46,719
Speaker 1: Then build up so they entrust them that his fans

1457
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:47,639
Speaker 1: will stay around.

1458
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 2: Facts it already got renewed for the second and the

1459
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 2: third season.

1460
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,520
Speaker 1: I think yeah, and I think you know this, this

1461
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 1: this is the type of show that people love like

1462
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:58,640
Speaker 1: because they can sit around and come up with all

1463
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 1: these theories about what's going on, what's happening. It's just

1464
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 1: like those that Middle Patch. It's like, how are you

1465
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 1: gonna find something to talk about with that? And that's

1466
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 1: where it really really struggled. But I mean sitting here

1467
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 1: talking about it, it's fun. Yeah, Like we get to

1468
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 1: see he and theorize and engaging conversation about what we

1469
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 1: just watched.

1470
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 2: It's just watching it.

1471
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 1: Watching it actually rough. You know after the first couple

1472
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 1: of episodes, it's not worth keeping out A Plus I.

1473
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 2: Said, no, I wouldn't, but I got some shows for

1474
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 2: you to make you keep it though.

1475
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 3: Okay, I definitely do.

1476
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 2: But that has been our review of the Apple Plus

1477
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 2: TV show Playibus. Thank you for joining the France per

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01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:43,679
Speaker 2: second podcast We out Peace, Peace