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Speaker 2: Maybe I'm looking at this now. Yeah, this looks terrible.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, just a little quick trip out to the

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Speaker 2: And obviously the health challenges he's been through, so I'm

436
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Speaker 2: happy to see him back out there doing what he loves.

437
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Speaker 1: A senior defensive assistant, secondary coach, something like that for

438
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Speaker 1: Chuck Macgono back with John Harball's staff. I want to

439
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Speaker 1: hit something you said a little bit earlier, I know

440
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Speaker 1: Mark and the YouTube chat asked this. You said something

441
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Speaker 1: about Daniel Jones that he has been more consistent, and

442
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Speaker 1: Mark chimed in with, well, if he's been more consistent,

443
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Speaker 1: isn't exactly what the Colts wanted from him?

444
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Speaker 2: So yeah, fair enough.

445
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Speaker 1: Do you then take that a step further and say,

446
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Speaker 1: well he's been what the Colts want from him, that

447
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Speaker 1: means he'll be the starter or are you not going

448
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Speaker 1: that far?

449
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 2: I'm not going that far because I don't think that

450
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Speaker 2: Anthony has been as inconsistent enough to just blow the job.

451
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Speaker 2: I still think it's relatively even right now, and if

452
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Speaker 2: it's even, tie goes to the guy that you drafted

453
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Speaker 2: fourth overall. In my opinion, I don't think that Daniel

454
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Speaker 2: Jones's consistency which has been better. I don't know. If

455
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Speaker 2: we charted it Kevin, he would probably have a higher

456
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Speaker 2: completion percentage throughout these first what nine training camp practices. However,

457
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Speaker 2: there isn't a big enough gap there in my opinion

458
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Speaker 2: to say, oh, this guy should definitely start over Anthony.

459
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Speaker 2: I think that if he wanted to win the starting job,

460
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Speaker 2: he would have to go out there and clearly I'll

461
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Speaker 2: play Richardson, and that just hasn't been the case throughout

462
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Speaker 2: training camp. I think Mark is the one who was saying,

463
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Speaker 2: or has been saying, when it comes to the quarterbacks,

464
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Speaker 2: if you start Daniel Jones to start the season, you're

465
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Speaker 2: telling Anthony it's over. And I don't care what Chris

466
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Speaker 2: Ballard says the front office, the team always still believe

467
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Speaker 2: in him. No you don't. If you start Daniel Jones

468
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Speaker 2: week going over that guy, it is over. However, if

469
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Speaker 2: you start Anthony and it doesn't go well, you still

470
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Speaker 2: got Daniel Jones waiting in the wing. So I think

471
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Speaker 2: it's a little bit easier for a transition to go

472
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Speaker 2: from you know, Anthony to Dani and Daniel and Anthony.

473
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, there's part of me during the summer

474
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Speaker 1: that thought, boy, the loser of this competition might be

475
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Speaker 1: the biggest winner because everyone will be Mark's on this

476
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Speaker 1: train early early, Everybody's gonna be wanting this dude to

477
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Speaker 1: be the starter, you know, not even by Halloween. Probably

478
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Speaker 1: by like the end of September, they're going to be

479
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Speaker 1: clamoring for whoever the number two quarterback is.

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Speaker 4: As a Bears fan, there's no more popular person in

481
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Speaker 4: the city than the backup quarterback.

482
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Speaker 2: Usually.

483
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Speaker 1: Sure, well, I would have.

484
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Speaker 2: Said this true.

485
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Speaker 1: We're not nine days into things at Grand Park. It

486
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Speaker 1: continues to be like whenever Anthony Richardson takes over the offense,

487
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Speaker 1: that that cheer continues to be much much higher than

488
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Speaker 1: it is for Daniel Jones. Yeah, I mean, I would

489
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Speaker 1: say Daniel Jones largely has been who he is so

490
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Speaker 1: far through camp, and I think a lot of it's

491
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Speaker 1: just going to come down to what exactly changed stich

492
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Speaker 1: in once, if he really means consistent, if he really

493
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Speaker 1: means he wants to wake up and have a good

494
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Speaker 1: feeling for what that quarterback is going to do, then

495
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Speaker 1: it's probably Daniel Jones. But if he actually is gonna

496
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Speaker 1: sit there and look in the mirror and be like,

497
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Speaker 1: you know what, we can't live with that dank and dunk,

498
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Speaker 1: we have to do something down the field, then it's

499
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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson. So you know, again, stich it, I don't.

500
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Speaker 1: I just think Psyche a little bit more pro Daniel

501
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Speaker 1: Jones than a lot of people want to admit.

502
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Speaker 2: Then he wants to admit publicly, I think because the

503
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Speaker 2: work consistency has been brought up over and over and

504
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Speaker 2: over again with Daniel Jones, and that is the word

505
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Speaker 2: that James Sykin is also mentioned as far as what

506
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Speaker 2: he wants at quarterback. So again, I don't think that

507
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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones has done enough to really separate himself from

508
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Speaker 2: the field or from the pack when it comes to

509
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Speaker 2: him and Anthony. But at the same time, as long

510
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Speaker 2: as Anthony kind of keeps a close tether to him, mighty,

511
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Speaker 2: I would honestly that Anthony might even have a slight

512
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Speaker 2: lead at this point just because Daniel hasn't now played him.

513
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Speaker 2: You know, I think Anthony gets the nod. But here's

514
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Speaker 2: a question for you. Are we going to see a

515
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Speaker 2: quarterback change no matter who starts Week one in the

516
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Speaker 2: first month of the season.

517
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Speaker 1: I think you got to give that Week one starter

518
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Speaker 1: a month.

519
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Speaker 2: What I meant like, after the first four games. By

520
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Speaker 2: week five, do we see a different starter?

521
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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, that's a yeah. That season will be off

522
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Speaker 1: the rails at that points.

523
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Speaker 2: That's a real question because in my mind, I'm also thinking.

524
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Speaker 1: At that point you're sharing one and three or oh

525
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Speaker 1: and four in the face if you're thinking about making

526
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Speaker 1: a quarterback change, right.

527
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Speaker 2: Exactly, And in my mind, if you're looking at oh

528
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Speaker 2: and two, that noise is gonna get loud. Yeah, especially

529
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Speaker 2: if the quarterback play isn't good. Now, if you lose

530
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Speaker 2: the first two games and it's because this new defense,

531
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Speaker 2: which I would be honestly very surprised, I gave up

532
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Speaker 2: a ton of points and you know, bow knicks and

533
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Speaker 2: two I mean Tua. I'm sorry, fuck I keep saying

534
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Speaker 2: two week because of two wee molowow. But Tua and

535
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Speaker 2: the Dolphins, if they go off, I think that would

536
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Speaker 2: obviously be a different case. But if it's quarterback play

537
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Speaker 2: that causes you to go on too oh Man, that

538
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 2: he's gonna get very very high.

539
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Speaker 1: Well, and it gets back to so far as how

540
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Speaker 1: and again the competition is played into this, but it

541
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Speaker 1: gets back to a conbo. You know. I had back

542
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Speaker 1: in March of saying my worry with having a quarterback

543
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Speaker 1: competition with two bad and inconsistent quarterbacks is that at

544
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Speaker 1: the end of the day, you give them inconsistent reps

545
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: and they're still bad and inconsistent.

546
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

547
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Speaker 2: Here, here's Mark Leech in the YouTube chat. I don't

548
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 2: know if this is fair, but I think this is

549
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 2: kind of funny. He says, AR is dunkin Donuts coffee.

550
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Speaker 2: Sometimes it's good, sometimes it tastes like coffee from three

551
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 2: weeks ago. DJ is Speedway coffee, never good, but always

552
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 2: the same, just like I.

553
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Speaker 1: Don't know about never good for DJA.

554
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Speaker 2: I mean he had led a team to the playoffs,

555
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: which was years ago. Daniel Jones actually had great game

556
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Speaker 2: against the Colts.

557
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Speaker 1: I think I like that analogy by Mark, but that

558
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Speaker 1: was that was I mean, I think that's pretty good working. Yeah,

559
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Speaker 1: MADDI got some dunkin Donuts coffee yesterday.

560
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Speaker 2: I've never had bad dunkin Donuts coffee. How many gays

561
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Speaker 2: you go in a week, though, I mean if he

562
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Speaker 2: goes seven days.

563
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Speaker 1: I think you gotta be a coffee snob. Really, just

564
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Speaker 1: a shudden shut the dunkin donuts like that.

565
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Speaker 4: I'd say it's more like, you know, the motel coffee

566
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Speaker 4: or like probably training camp coffee or something where it's

567
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 4: like it's here, it's fine.

568
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't get that. I wouldn't purchase this for my

569
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Speaker 2: own house.

570
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Speaker 1: You're just trying to survive in advance.

571
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, at that point, which honestly I think that

572
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 2: it would be their proch with Daniel Jones.

573
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Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean we've the right advance. I think

574
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Speaker 1: the anlogieab us is, you know, you're dropping the middle

575
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Speaker 1: of the lake, and can he keep you afloat? You know,

576
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Speaker 1: can he that's sort of the thought process with that. Again,

577
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Speaker 1: both quarterbacks I thought were really I thought Richardson was

578
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 1: extra poor on Saturday.

579
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no new Disugard.

580
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Speaker 1: And then they bounced back yesterday in a better day.

581
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Speaker 1: For those that missed it. Playing time for the preseason

582
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Speaker 1: chains I can touch on this a little bit. After practice.

583
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Speaker 1: It sounds like both quarterbacks will play whatever a good

584
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: amount means. But that was the word changes I can

585
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Speaker 1: use on Thursday, and then the reverse of that will

586
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Speaker 1: happen for the Green Bay game coming up a week

587
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Speaker 1: from Saturday. So again, I don't think it's the most

588
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Speaker 1: shocking thing in the world. If you have a quarterback competition,

589
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna let it play out through two weeks

590
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Speaker 1: of the preseason. So this will be different, I think

591
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: in all likelihood James and what we saw in Richardson's

592
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Speaker 1: rookie year where he was named the starter after the

593
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Speaker 1: first preseason game. Yeah, with Gardner Minshew. Again, that wasn't

594
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Speaker 1: like an outright competition fifty to fifty split as much

595
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Speaker 1: as this is. So it sounds like the quarterback plan

596
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: for Thursday, Shane will I think the thought was he

597
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: was going to tell the quarterbacks tomorrow, probably share it

598
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Speaker 1: with the public coming up after tomorrow's joint practice with

599
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Speaker 1: the Ravens, and then he will flip flop that for

600
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Speaker 1: the Green Bay game. Will you make anything of whoever

601
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Speaker 1: is the initial starter Thursday, absolutely leaving in their eyes

602
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Speaker 1: whoever starts Thursday is the leader.

603
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Speaker 2: Honestly think so, Hey, this Ravens defense is will to

604
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 2: be very very good if you want to get reps

605
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 2: in you want to see what your guy can do

606
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 2: you're up against.

607
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Speaker 1: Of course, gotta wait and see if the Ravens play

608
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Speaker 1: their starters.

609
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 2: Fair enough, fair enough, But also I was getting at

610
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Speaker 2: the joint practice too, like who you know, how does

611
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Speaker 2: that look?

612
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Speaker 1: But to the tomorrow starter matters too?

613
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Speaker 2: That too. Yes, I think it all matter. I'm not

614
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 2: saying like it's the end all, be all, final decision,

615
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 2: but in my mind, if I'm leaning towards one quarterback

616
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Speaker 2: over the other, why the heck would I play him? Second?

617
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 2: This doesn't make sense to me, And I get that,

618
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 2: you know, there's other logistical things you want to factor in,

619
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Speaker 2: but I don't see the upside or the incentive to

620
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 2: not play the guy that I think is going to

621
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Speaker 2: be my dude first up, simple as that.

622
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the second preseason game, I think it'll be interesting,

623
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Speaker 1: like when is that dress rehearsal? Like will they view

624
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Speaker 1: the Green Bay game as like, hey, let's actually play

625
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: our starters a little bit longer in that game?

626
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 2: Right?

627
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Speaker 3: You know?

628
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Speaker 2: Do you get into that sort of feel with the

629
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Speaker 2: justical stuff I was talking to?

630
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Speaker 1: Remember, you only have three of these games, yeah, you know,

631
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: when you had four, we kind of got in the

632
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: cadence of like you kind of slowly progress towards the

633
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: third preseason game, then you played them a little bit longer,

634
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Speaker 1: and then the fourth preseason game was the to use

635
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Speaker 1: the Rick Venturi phrases, a tryout bowl. You know, it

636
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: was all these undrafted guys trying to compete for a

637
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: roster spot there. I don't know if I I don't

638
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 1: think I really agree to Shaton styke In on the

639
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: playing with the defense, though it doesn't sound like they

640
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: will play their defensive starting unit much, if at all,

641
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: in the preseason. I don't know. I think when you're

642
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: sawing a new system, I think it's important to get

643
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: those guys some reps together. But he really didn't commit

644
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Speaker 1: to any of that. He did not sound like a

645
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Speaker 1: guy with much urgency when it came to seeing Louianna

646
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Speaker 1: Rumo's defense playing.

647
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Speaker 2: And do you think that's because of some of the

648
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 2: injury stuff Forrest Buckner missed a couple practice I think

649
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: with the FO Yeah.

650
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Speaker 1: I mean Buckner's kind of been off and on a

651
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: little bit various Ward's been off and on. I mean

652
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Speaker 1: Ziah Franklin. We still have yet to see him in

653
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Speaker 1: a full team practice. He did seven on seven yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Cornerbacks are banged up.

655
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure that's some of it.

656
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: But still though, I mean it's.

657
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: Like, well, I mean, to me, I think weeks one

658
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: and two are just massive. I think they are such

659
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: important games actually, And if you have inconsistent quarterback play

660
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: and an inconsistent defense out of the gate, that's not

661
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: a recipe to starting one on one and two or

662
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: two and out.

663
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Speaker 2: No, And to your point, if you're gonna start Justin Wally,

664
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: for example, he needs those reps and I do think

665
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: he he'll play a ton when it comes to Obviously,

666
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 2: Jordan practices and it should get a good amount of

667
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 2: reps in the preseason, but you know, whenever, and it's

668
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 2: always kind of like dicey, But how do you sort of,

669
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: you know, make it all work when you have veterans

670
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 2: who you trust to execute at a high level, like

671
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 2: Cam bining on, like your various ward But how do

672
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: how does Justin Wally's role change when they're on the

673
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 2: field and versus when they're not. He can play, he

674
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: can't play the same way. So I just wonder, how

675
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: do you know wrestle with that decision to try to

676
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 2: get as many bodies out there as you know of

677
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 2: anything in the starting lineup.

678
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: A couple of things I do want to get to.

679
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: I feel like there was a starting job. Walking into

680
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: Grand Park, I thought was pretty secure. And now what

681
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: are we about two weeks into things up there in Westfield?

682
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: I don't think it's secure at all. And then I

683
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: think a little on the Terry McLaurin Michael Parsons front,

684
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: you know, the seems to be the dominant storyline from

685
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: a national standpoint here. Gosh, I'm so glad I don't

686
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: cover the Dallas Cowboys for many reasons, but that drama.

687
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 3: Pinch your damn act together continues.

688
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: To play out there. Yes, thank you Jerry for that.

689
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: Are they still doing camp in California? The Cowboys?

690
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure.

691
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: Let's see, I thought they were one of the teams

692
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: that still goes off site, Like I got a feeling

693
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: there might be in Are you just at Baltimore's facility

694
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: tomorrow or are you guys in the stadium where you're

695
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: at tomorrow.

696
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 2: Their facility, which is like I think six minutes from

697
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: their stadium something like that. In a car, so as

698
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: you can tell I researched this, is.

699
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: It open to the public.

700
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 2: I believe it might be because whenever I see any

701
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: social media from the Ravens at their practices, they're alway

702
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 2: running out of his tunnel, where like Lamar Jackson and

703
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 2: others are like high five and bunch of kids. So

704
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: I'd imagine it's similar to Colts camp where you have

705
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: that fan experience, which is good.

706
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: Again, enjoint practice number one, the Colts will have two

707
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: joint sessions here, just one with Baltimore than the other

708
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: one coming up a week from Thursday with the Green

709
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: Bay Packers. Again yesterday afternoon. If I don't know why,

710
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: you would have been inside because it was such a

711
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: gorgeous day. But the keys to the game brought to

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714
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: excellent excellent performance by the Indian Fever. They did have

715
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: to hold on tight there late in that game, but

716
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: on a night where they were four of twenty two

717
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: from three and had sixteen turnovers, they still found a

718
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: way to get it done. They beat Seattle seventy eight

719
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,959
Speaker 1: seventy four Natasha Howard, very good sophy, connyham Key. Aliah

720
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: Boston has set a franchise record her sixth her sixth

721
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,239
Speaker 1: straight double double. By the way, I love this, sam

722
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: Marito McDonald, Do you see your tweet over the weekend

723
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: about how she's in grad school.

724
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, having a twelve page pay per due on a

725
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: four game road trip is wild. I believe she said

726
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 2: something along those lines on Twitter, and I was thinking

727
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 2: to myself, One, I didn't even know you were in

728
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 2: grad school too, What a beast?

729
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: She said, she's in grad school for applied behavior analysis.

730
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: That sounds like something I need for Max Bowen right now.

731
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 2: It sounds like a story I should do because I

732
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: didn't know this. I'm very curious. Actually, I need to

733
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: dig more into this because.

734
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like a great story.

735
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 2: She didn't reveal this at all until that tweet, I believe,

736
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: and mind you, this is not a player who was

737
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: very sure of her WNBA.

738
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: Future to start the US.

739
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 2: Exactly, So it wasn't like she really you know, playing

740
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 2: I guess logistically when it comes to the school work,

741
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: but you know, get it done obviously on the court

742
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 2: and hopefully off the court as well.

743
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, she chimed in and said, uh, I work on

744
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: assignments on the plane bus before and after games and practices,

745
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: and yeah, twelve page paper due. Wait I just hear

746
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: that out loud. Think a twelve page paper. There's no

747
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: chance in hell I could write a twelve page paper

748
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: on anything right now.

749
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: No, I don't miss those days whatsoever. Yeah, I wrote

750
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 2: a fifteen page paper overnight in college. For any students

751
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 2: who are ditching school this earlyer in the school year,

752
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 2: don't do that if you're listening, because that was horrible.

753
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 2: Was the worst experiences of my college career. Ough pulled

754
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: an all nighter, turned in some garbage. I mean I

755
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 2: passed the class, but yeah, that was not fun at all.

756
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 2: And actually I got a twenty page paper assigned for

757
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: one of my classes. You are my senior year of college.

758
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 2: It was our final and I did the math and

759
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 2: I had a pretty good grade in the class, and

760
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 2: I was like, if I don't turn this in, I

761
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 2: can still pass with like a C minus. So I

762
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: emailed my teacher and I said, hey, I'll just be

763
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 2: up front when this is due. I will not submit anything.

764
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 2: You don't have to come find me. I will take

765
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 2: the zero and I'm graduating, so you know, thanks for

766
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 2: your time, and she effected it. Actually, I think she

767
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 2: probably gladd she didn't have the grades twenty page paper,

768
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 2: so got out of there with the grade that I

769
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Speaker 2: needed to get. My parents were still pleased. I walked

770
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Speaker 2: the stage.

771
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Speaker 1: You were peacock strutting after that.

772
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was like, legitimately, I'm a pretty good student.

773
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 2: That was the only assignment I ever knowingly ditched in college.

774
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 2: But at that point I was throw in the towel.

775
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 2: I was thinking, do I want to hang out with

776
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 2: my friends, make sure I pass some harder classes and

777
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 2: enjoyed my last couple weeks on college campus besides writing

778
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 2: a twenty paces paper.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, I meant to ask you, and

780
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Speaker 1: that is the voice of James Boyd over there. I'm

781
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: Kevin Bow and Mark Dyton with us. Of course, Jeff

782
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: Record will be back coming up tomorrow. Did I I

783
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: thought I heard it just an excellent analogy out of

784
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: you in regards to an Anthony richardson comp over the weekend,

785
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: and I want to make sure I have this right

786
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: if you could share some details around it. The phrase

787
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: was if you are leaning, you better be cleaning. Yeah, yeah,

788
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: that was Did I hear that correct? That is correct?

789
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 2: And the analogy that I was using we're talking about

790
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 2: leadership action on James Boy podcast. I thought you got

791
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 2: you know, sick of hearing me and you know Kevin

792
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 2: throughout your expension on the show Straight Down, So I'm

793
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 2: so I know who I love. By the way, it's

794
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 2: honestly it is. That's a whole other tangent. But it

795
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 2: is great to have an editor who will actually cover

796
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 2: the team because we're always on the same page when

797
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: it comes to covering things and how we should do it.

798
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 2: But anyways, yeah, I use the term if you're leaning,

799
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 2: you gotta be cleaning, or if you're leaning, you can

800
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 2: be cleaning because I had a job back in college

801
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 2: when I was working in the dining hall and had

802
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 2: an older lady who is basically my little grandma of college,

803
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: and she told me that line because the one day

804
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 2: I had done all my work and I was just

805
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: chilling and she's like, well, you got to look like

806
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 2: you're doing something. And I used that analogy with Anthony

807
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 2: Richardson for last year, where I think he was a

808
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: bit naive and didn't realize that all the cliches matter

809
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: when it comes to quarterback. Showing up early, staying late,

810
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 2: even if you just look like you're doing nothing. I mean,

811
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: we'll look like you're doing something and you're doing nothing.

812
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 2: Just pretend to too much leaning, not enough, cleaning, too much.

813
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: I mean he told us himself, Oh, I got to

814
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: sacrifice more. Oh I gotta say later. And I'm like, well, yeah,

815
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 2: even if you're just if they're twiddling your thumbs at

816
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 2: five am in the morning, just do it. You hear

817
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 2: cam Ward in Tennessee, He's like, we'll get there five

818
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning. Realistically, there's probably no need to

819
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 2: get there at five in the morning. However, he's doing

820
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: it because it matters optically for the position. So I

821
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 2: think Anthony has learned, or has at least continue to

822
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 2: learn that when it comes to the quarterback position, beyond

823
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 2: him playing better, because I think that will solve everything

824
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 2: you need to win all the other little quarterback quarks

825
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: that come along the way.

826
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Speaker 1: Gosh, now you say that, I remember I worked in

827
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: the finish line warehouse after my freshman year, and yeah,

828
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: I feel like I had a boss that said something similar. Gosh,

829
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 1: those are great lines. If I ever become a boss

830
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: one day. I need to start writing these down. It's

831
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 1: so true though, chas in a book.

832
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: I'm looking at others in the YouTube chatter saying you

833
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 2: have heard the same line or work that crew car wash.

834
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: It's like boss one on one school man, I'm telling

835
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: you you got to just look busy, just look busy,

836
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 2: and so I am. I am curious though, and I

837
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: don't know if we'll ever get a full clear answer

838
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 2: on this, but just how he approaches stuff differently than

839
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 2: last year.

840
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think internally the colts would say, like, hey,

841
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: if the meeting started at eight o'clock, he's walking in

842
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: at seven fifty nine, and it's like, well, how about

843
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: walking in at seven forty yeah, or how about walking

844
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: in at seven fifty two, Like you know, that sort

845
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: of aspect to it. I do think Anthony Richardson also

846
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: comes from a different family, climate culture than maybe some

847
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks as well. I think there's a lot more

848
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: writing on Anthony Richardson. I don't know if that's the

849
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 1: right way to put it, but like you know, James,

850
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: you and I have shared this before. I forget what

851
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: streaming app it's on, but they followed him around in

852
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: high school.

853
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

854
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: Netflix did the QB one series and they moved it

855
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 2: off of that platform. But to your point, yes, he

856
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: was follow him and Bryce Young and.

857
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: Him and right from two of the three quarterbacks, and

858
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: it was an from Bryce Young's college high school atmosphere

859
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 1: which was like a college app ye, and everything around

860
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: him versus Anthony Richardson's. And yeah, I get that some

861
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: of these Richardson quotes you've heard from training camp, they

862
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: can be frustrating to people, like, wait a minute, it

863
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: took you this long to hear that I can't be

864
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: slacking anymore and all of that. But we'll see, obviously

865
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: how it all plays out. I think something to note

866
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: that I am eager James for tomorrow when you're out

867
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: there in Baltimore, and then of course Thursday night. Seeing

868
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: how much Richardson and Daniel Jones play, I would say

869
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: Richardson and Jones have been pretty good in two of

870
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: the last three practices.

871
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

872
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: Now, both of those days the Colts wore down three

873
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: of their top five corners. Yesterday again was one of

874
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: those days where they were really banged up at corner.

875
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 2: So that roster Kevin I was like who's thirty five,

876
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: who's three, Who's this, who's that?

877
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: It is a lot of that at the cornerback position

878
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: right now. So again going up against somebody else, because

879
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: you know, think back to Cincinnati last year in that

880
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: joint practice. I mean, the Bengals defense was literally laughing.

881
00:39:59,160 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

882
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: No, I was there at Anthony Richardson for not throwing

883
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: the football or when he did throw it not accurately enough.

884
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 2: They were calling him basically like trash to his face.

885
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: And that turned out to be spot on, unfortunately for

886
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: the Colts. And I think I don't want to make

887
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: too much out of these small sample sizes we get

888
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: in August, but I do feel like if you go

889
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: back the past several years, there's been these moments for

890
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: the Colts. I e that moment in Cincinnati. I think

891
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 1: back to a preseason game in Buffalo a couple of

892
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: years ago where the Colts played their starters. Buffalo did not,

893
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 1: and the Colts backups got whooped in the first quarter.

894
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: All right, excuse me, the Colts starters got whooped by

895
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: the Bills backups. And again it's like, wait, how much

896
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: do you make out of just a little bit of

897
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: August sample size? Like, didn't the Lions go undefeated in

898
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: the preseason the year they went oh in sixteen? And like,

899
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: didn't the Colts always lose with Peyton manny in the preseason.

900
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: But yet with this Colts era, I feel like the

901
00:40:55,040 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: August indicators have carried into the season. So I do

902
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: think that is something to keep it on for tomorrow.

903
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,919
Speaker 4: One of my best friends who is a Lions fan,

904
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 4: the year they went oh and sixteen, I purchased a

905
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 4: shirt and he says he still has to this day.

906
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 4: I bought him a shirt that said preseason champs because

907
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 4: they're four and oh and he's like, and then we

908
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 4: never won a game? Is the first year you ever

909
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 4: bought NFL Sunday tickets? I bought it to watch the

910
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 4: game and they didn't want a single game?

911
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 2: Like I didn't know that. That is actually like that

912
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 2: should be like on Jeopardy or so you should have

913
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 2: got a refund.

914
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: That was back in the four game preseason schedule.

915
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, So.

916
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 4: You bought NFL Sunday ticket for the first year ever

917
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 4: because obviously the Lions were out of market and they

918
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 4: didn't want a single game. So he had all that

919
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 4: money that he flutched on the toile didn't even get out.

920
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 1: Of you because now he's getting the last laugh.

921
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 2: That's true.

922
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: Then you're just sitting here as a Bears fan.

923
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: He got a free T shirt out of it too. Yeah,

924
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 2: that actually is pretty I always wonder is it free

925
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 2: if you've paid all that money, Like when you go somewhere,

926
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 2: you go to the dentist or whatever, and they're like, hey,

927
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: you get this free thing. All what I like a coope,

928
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 2: So I pretty much paid for this, but thank you you.

929
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: That's how I feel most of the time.

930
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: By there is something about coming home with that bag

931
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 1: and I'm like, here we go that travel toothpaste. There

932
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: we go.

933
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 2: That is clutch. I actually have to get some travel toothpaste.

934
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 2: I'm set at airport today.

935
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's perfect. I know, I'm set.

936
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 2: I have a question, Smokey the Bear shirt or what

937
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: is this what we got going here?

938
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 1: Is it dog balls?

939
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 2: Oh?

940
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 1: Yeah? This is when I went to Tennessee Georgia SEC

941
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: game a few years ago. And yeah, me and my

942
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: buddies on the boys trip, we all bought Tennessee shirts before.

943
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: You know, you can't just walk through the tailgate fields

944
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: acting like you're sticking all like a sore thumb, you

945
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: gotta blend in. So yeah, this is true. Yeah, it's

946
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: one of my favorite shirts. And again college football we

947
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 1: are nearing.

948
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 2: Yes, I can't wait. It's gonna be great.

949
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: I think there's three saturdays away coming up this weekend

950
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: and then whatever Saturday it starts on, there will be

951
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: no productive James Boyd on that day, we'll be productive.

952
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: At the eight o'clock an hour, what to make of

953
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin and Michael Parsons and how that could apply

954
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: to the Colts. Also the swagger of Ady Mitchell alive

955
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: and well what was seen and what was heard from

956
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: number ten in here in week two will hit on

957
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: that and unfortunately quite the ugly scene near the end

958
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: of Colts practice yesterday. We'll recap what exactly took place

959
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: with that. Kevin bow and James bore to Mark Dyighton

960
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: here on a Monday, thank you for starting your week

961
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: with us, Tuggle NFL. In the nine o'clock hour, Matt

962
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: Verdam from a SAI gonna join us. He made a

963
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: stop at Colts training camp. What was that, James, probably

964
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: handful of days ago at this point.

965
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 2: Yes, and he's usually you know, doing a lot of

966
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 2: chief stuff as well. So afterwards I was asking him,

967
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 2: you know, Chiefs quarterback room or Colts quarterback room.

968
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: Well, that's certainly quite the debate you could have.

969
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was ready to argue, but no, that was

970
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: not much of an argument on my part.

971
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: But speaking of Chiefs quarterback room, my brother said he

972
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: ran into one Carson Wentz at a local Kroger over

973
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: the weekend. Is Carson Wentz done?

974
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 2: I believe he's a free agent right now. I don't

975
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 2: think he's done. Okay, hear me out.

976
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 1: What's that age for Carson Wentz? Definitely north of thirty right,

977
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: thirty two? He is currently a free agent? I believe.

978
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 2: Let's see. Oh, no, he is signing with the Tampa

979
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 2: Bay Buccaneers. Is that what we have here?

980
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 3: No?

981
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: Well, why was he at the local Croaker?

982
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 2: I don't know this this side I might not trust.

983
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 2: I want to clicked on the side about this. And

984
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 2: then I'm like, I'm not seeing an ESPN dot com.

985
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles and Baker Mayfield having training camp designs of

986
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: the high school.

987
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 2: And yeah, I still think he's a free agent. I

988
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 2: don't know what this article is about.

989
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: How he was Mahomes's backup last year.

990
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 2: I know one play away and honestly he I think

991
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 2: he is probably a one on the better side of backups.

992
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 2: You look at the other ones out there, you know,

993
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 2: Tyler Huntley and On Teddy Bridgewater and CJ. Bethard.

994
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater's doing the high school thing, isn't it. I

995
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: know Evin Phillip Rivers in our high school kickoff here?

996
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 1: Do you welcome him back if we're not here?

997
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 2: If one of the Colts players goes down, the Colts

998
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 2: quarterbacks goes down, no, I can't interest you. And Carson Wentz.

999
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: I think Jim Mercy might have some words for you

1000
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: from up yeah, up in the sky.

1001
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 2: I'll say, you might come out the grave and be like, oh.

1002
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: No, this is not happen. That is not happening. Okay,

1003
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: mak sure make sure whatever Colts in Baltimore, they'll fly

1004
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: out there later today and then joint practice coming up tomorrow.

1005
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: I did want to hit just briefly on the national storyline,

1006
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: and again we will recap what was just an awful

1007
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: scene frankly lighton Colts practice yesterday here in a few minutes.

1008
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: But you know, obviously the Michael Parsons, Terry McLaurin trade request,

1009
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: Michael Parson's direct quotes if I don't want to be

1010
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: here anymore, are really dominating the NFL storylines James. Oftentimes

1011
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: when players of this elk express similar views the question

1012
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: immediately they fled your timeline, they fled my yeah, and

1013
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 1: it's probably happening in thirty one other yea.

1014
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 2: Marketing literally in my real job. You know, hey, you

1015
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 2: got a trade request for us. I'm like, I really don't.

1016
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: So what do he make from a realistic nature? Like,

1017
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: is this something that the Colts should and take either

1018
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: or take neither if you would like, do you think

1019
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: the Colts should be in the market? And again I

1020
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: always ask for realistic nature. Should they realistically be pursuing

1021
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin and or Michael Parsons.

1022
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 2: So I'll start with this. I think Terry McLaurin is

1023
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 2: more likely to potentially be moved than Michael Parsons. Michael

1024
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 2: Parsons is a twenty six year old top three edge

1025
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 2: rusher in the NFL not name what Miles Garrett or TJ.

1026
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 2: Watt like. He's elite and he's been elite for a

1027
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 2: few years now. So he's he's very valuable, and as

1028
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 2: much as you want to entertain the idea of him

1029
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 2: being traded, you're the Colts, Colts, if you're the Cowboys,

1030
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 2: you know he can request the trade. You could just

1031
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 2: tell them I'll see tomorrow. That's how NFL contracts work.

1032
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,439
Speaker 2: He can be upset about it and all those things,

1033
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 2: but he's not going anywhere. In my opinion, however, I

1034
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 2: would lean if I'm the Colts and I'm trying to

1035
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,959
Speaker 2: look at this through a realistic lens, I would lean

1036
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,439
Speaker 2: more towards Terry mclauren because I feel like it will

1037
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 2: be less of a cost to give up to get him.

1038
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 2: For example, I'm not sure I would give up a

1039
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,959
Speaker 2: first round pick for Terry mclauren. If you go after

1040
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 2: Michael Parsons, you're giving up probably two first round picks,

1041
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 2: if not more compensation on top of that. So, to me,

1042
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 2: if there was a world where I thought, okay, could

1043
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 2: I offload Alec Pierce or potentially Michael Piman Jr. To

1044
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 2: bring in Terry mclauren, that to me seems like a

1045
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 2: more realistic path than Michael Parsons, which is I mean,

1046
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: Heaven and Earth and I debated this JAMV on Friday.

1047
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 2: I believe Kevin because he was saying he believed that

1048
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 2: if the Colts traded for Michael Parsons would be a

1049
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 2: move to legitimize them. My counter to that is that

1050
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: you only make that movie if you know for sure

1051
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 2: your quarterback is a dude.

1052
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, That's That's where I'm at it. If you don't

1053
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 1: have the answer at franchise quarterback, I largely think you're

1054
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: frozen from doing these types of things.

1055
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 2: But could I interest you in Sarry McLaurin because he

1056
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: would help your quarterback situation in theory? I don't know,

1057
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 2: but I just a little bit.

1058
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: I think you're still stuck in the same place of

1059
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: looking for that guy and and today's.

1060
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 2: Looking for the quarterback. You mean right right like that,

1061
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 2: it's definitely Arry mclauren.

1062
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: That guy. I mean it, you know. I I go

1063
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: back to, you know, when Buffalo drafted Josh Allen. They

1064
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 1: traded up on two different occasions to get to number

1065
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: seven overall to take Josh Allen. And if you were

1066
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: certainly if you were to do the Michael Parsons deal,

1067
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 1: or even if you were going to dabble into Terry McLaurin.

1068
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking draft pick plus money. Draft picks

1069
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: plus money. How much does that hinder you from making

1070
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: a trade. Or if all of a sudden you're a

1071
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: nine win team but your quarterback play looks me again,

1072
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: then are you just stuck in the teens without a

1073
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: first round pick? If you're going to trade for a

1074
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: guy like Michael Parsons, right, and let's say you give

1075
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: up your second round pick for Terry McLaurin, are you

1076
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 1: just hoping and praying somebody falls sixteen or seventeen or

1077
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: you know, you don't again have that second round pick.

1078
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, I know the NFL, in the NBA,

1079
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: maybe it's not exactly apples to apples, but you know,

1080
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 1: I think a big reason why the Pacers were able

1081
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: to pivot so well they had all that available to

1082
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: them to them. So, yes, they made the huge trade

1083
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: for player for player to get I should say players

1084
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: for players to get Tyree Saliburn. But when all of

1085
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: a sudden the Pascal Siakam thing was presented, they had

1086
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: all their first round picks to be able to go

1087
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 1: ahead and make that sort of move. I don't view

1088
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: the franchise in a light where they're able to dip

1089
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: their toes into that water. And I just don't think

1090
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: band Aid's work in the AFC. I mean, I know

1091
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: I've done this exercise many times on the show before,

1092
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: but we can go down the list of AFC teams

1093
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: that feel like they've got their quarterback right now, Yeah,

1094
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: and it's eight, nine, ten, and a lot of them

1095
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: are right with that. And I'm not even including you know,

1096
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: what you know New England might think of Drake May

1097
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: or what you know Tennessee might think of cam Ward.

1098
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: I mean, if you just look at Lamar and Burrow

1099
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: and Stroud and Josh Allen obviously, and Mahomes and Herbert.

1100
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 1: I mean that list is a very impressive list. And

1101
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: so I as much as yes, these players would be

1102
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: upgrades and would certainly help your team at critical positions.

1103
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 1: I think when you don't have quarterback, you're frozen from

1104
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: trying to entertain this stuff, which I know is not

1105
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: the Madden video game you want to play. I think

1106
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: it's a reality, a living.

1107
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 2: You do, you do, and honestly, it all comes back

1108
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 2: to the quarterback. So often in this sport we talk

1109
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 2: about defensive schemes and defensive units and skill pets and players.

1110
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 2: But it just comes down to often do you have

1111
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: a guy that guy like you said in Capitol letters,

1112
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 2: Kevin under center throwing the rock and the teams that do.

1113
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 2: For example, I believe Houston kind of was aggressive. I

1114
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 2: want to say maybe last offseason a year before where

1115
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 2: they went out and got Stefan Diggs and they you know,

1116
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 2: they tried to go get I think.

1117
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: The win that even trading up for Will Anderson Junior

1118
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: a couple like you get a.

1119
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 2: Dude, a quarterback, you''re especially on a rookie deal, you're

1120
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 2: willing to you know, take those swings. But in the

1121
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 2: Colts this case, it's been so convoluted with you know, injuries, inaccuracy,

1122
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 2: the benching where you can you can't really be aggressive

1123
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 2: like that with Anthony sort of in limbo as far

1124
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 2: as being your franchise quarterback or not well.

1125
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: And I also think James, you juicy. Teams start to

1126
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: plan ahead for this stuff, like you know, Cleveland last year,

1127
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: remember Jacksonville coming up to get Travis Hunter. Cleveland gets

1128
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: the additional first round or for next year. So now

1129
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 1: Cleveland could be looking at two top ten picks. Yeah,

1130
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: their own and then Jacksonville's. Remember late in round one

1131
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 1: there was a surprising trade back in April of Atlanta

1132
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: coming back into round one, they traded with the Rams.

1133
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: Well what's the Rams thought process? Fine? Life after Matthew Stafford.

1134
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 2: Yep.

1135
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: Now they have two first round picks for next year

1136
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 1: and what is supposed to be, you know, a very

1137
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: good quarterback draft class. So I think part of that

1138
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: is kind of where where it's played into as well.

1139
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 2: I would agree there. But as far as actual moves

1140
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 2: the Colts can make, do you think there is a

1141
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 2: possibility that we could see another potential free agency signing

1142
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 2: before like the end of the summer. Is there any position,

1143
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,240
Speaker 2: Kevin you're looking at to say maybe we can add

1144
00:52:58,280 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 2: just a little bit here, a little bit there, Because

1145
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 2: for me, I do think linebacker is one of them?

1146
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 2: Or am I sold on what I've seen from Joe Bachi,

1147
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 2: who's had a good camp. I gotta give my credit

1148
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 2: Austin and Jake Cameron mcgron. Am I am I okay?

1149
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 2: With that being my backup plan.

1150
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 1: Well, let's go to linebacker for a second, because I've

1151
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: he's done a couple different occasions here throughout the show

1152
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:30,280
Speaker 1: walking into Grand Park. I'll speak for myself. The thought

1153
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 1: I think from me and I think definitely internally, was

1154
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 1: Jalen Carlis as a starter next to Sire Franklin. Jalen Carlives,

1155
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: for those unfamiliar, fifth round pick two years ago, made

1156
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: the position switch from safety to linebacker in the NFL.

1157
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: Played you know, a decent amount for a Day three

1158
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: rookie last year, and I thought flashed a bit ej

1159
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: Speed now moves on to Houston. The thought is now

1160
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: Jalen Carlis becomes a starter. Jalen Carlis was taking some

1161
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: second team reps over the weekend. Wasn't out there yesterday?

1162
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: And you mentioned Joe Bachi number forty eight for those

1163
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: that have been out at Grand Park. He picked? Was

1164
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: it Jones he picked on Saturday? I think it was

1165
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: in a seven on seven. He comes over from Cincinnati

1166
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: with obviously lou An Arumo knows the defense, knows the

1167
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: defense exactly, and he's gotten a ton of starting reps

1168
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: here without Zaire Franklin. Now Zaiia has yet to play

1169
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 1: in the eleven on eleven periods. Maybe that happens tomorrow.

1170
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: But I guess to answer a question Yes, Linebacker's one

1171
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: I definitely would be looking into. And I also sit

1172
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: here nine days into training camp thinking we might have

1173
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: an open starting job next to Zire Franklin, which I

1174
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: didn't think that would start a camp. And Carlis has

1175
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: been pretty quiet during camp. I don't think we've seen

1176
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: the amount of playmaking like we've seen from some other guys.

1177
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 1: So on the radar of kind of things, I'm now

1178
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: looking forward as we get into joint practices, as we

1179
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 1: get it in preseason games, as we start transition. Linebacker

1180
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: continues to be one. And you know Zaia's overall health.

1181
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: You could look at this is the air thing one

1182
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: of two ways. One you can look at and say, well,

1183
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:06,240
Speaker 1: he's never been hurt, so everything will be fine. Yeah,

1184
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: Or you go out and say, this is the first

1185
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: time he's ever had surgery in the NFL. This is

1186
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: the first time he's ever missed three months in his

1187
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: NFL career. Right, he's nearing thirty. How does he look?

1188
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 3: You know?

1189
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: Coming off of that. So yes, to answer it, I

1190
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: would say linebacker, and to.

1191
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 2: Kind of pivot a little bit. Talking to I ear,

1192
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 2: it was fascinating to hear him say what went into

1193
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 2: the decision to have the surgery because he referenced the

1194
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 2: Minnesota game that they played, and I believe this was

1195
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty two season, Kevin.

1196
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: Oh, I assumed it was Sunday night football this past.

1197
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 2: Well or was it Sunday night?

1198
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 3: Oh?

1199
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was. Actually, you know what, I've completely

1200
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 2: forgot about the game. Actually, both gain times they went

1201
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 2: to Minnesota, they were awful when it comes to the

1202
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,439
Speaker 2: outcome of those games. So yes, I would, I would

1203
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 2: imagine that is the game he's referencing.

1204
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 3: And just.

1205
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 2: Months yeah, exactly, And from the sounds of it, it

1206
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 2: bothered him a little bit more as the summer went on.

1207
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 2: So for those asking, oh my gosh, he knew he

1208
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,760
Speaker 2: needed surgery right away, why didn't he get it sooner?

1209
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 2: I think a lot of it was a pain tolerance thing,

1210
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 2: but also he had been playing through it and with

1211
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 2: it for a while. He made a joke yesterday and saying, man,

1212
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 2: if you all knew everything that these guys went through,

1213
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,720
Speaker 2: all of us went through, you would have articles for days.

1214
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 2: And then I want to tell them, well, if you

1215
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 2: got you know any more, you know injuries you wanted

1216
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 2: to disclose or you want a stitch on your teammates

1217
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 2: feel free because we all as we know, Kevin's running

1218
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 2: joke in the media room that every year at the

1219
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 2: end of the year we go over to the Forest

1220
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 2: Buckner and we said, hey, off the record, what are

1221
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 2: you dealing with? And he he leves, blah blah blah

1222
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 2: blah blah, and it'll have like eight sex regardless.

1223
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, and South America. Yeah, that was as.

1224
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 2: Open as he's been. He went to Panama togainst you know,

1225
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 2: stem cells surgery for his ankle, but for Zayre's purposes, Yes,

1226
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 2: I wanted to make that clear that it wasn't like

1227
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 2: he neglected getting the surgery. I think it was like

1228
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 2: a last resort type of thing because he thought it

1229
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 2: would get better on his own and it didn't. Into

1230
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 2: his credit, he's still in theory going to be available

1231
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 2: for the start of the season.

1232
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 1: We'll get back into the quarterback combo here in just

1233
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,919
Speaker 1: a second. A very important and needed bounce back day

1234
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: for Matthey Richardson in particular, and I thought there was

1235
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: a rookie that actually probably had his best practice so

1236
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: far off camp. We'll do that here in just a second.

1237
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: But James let's hit on what was certainly the scene

1238
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: of yesterday in such an unfortunate scene and really one

1239
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: of the more eerie scenes I've seen out at a

1240
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: cult training camp practice late in practice, during a live

1241
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: tackling period, and for those kind of unfamiliar with this,

1242
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,919
Speaker 1: Shane Stiken has done this probably I don't know, let's

1243
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: call it a handful of days here throughout camp where

1244
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: the third teamers they go live early in practice. Actually,

1245
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: Riley Leonard led a touchdown drive during a live period.

1246
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: But Savon Akhmed, who is kind of a veteran running

1247
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: back fighting for a roster spot, he breaks one in

1248
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: the open field, and I would say he was probably

1249
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: about I don't know, maybe ten yards from the goal line,

1250
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: going down the sideline and it looked like he was

1251
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: going to score, and undrafted safety Tray Washington tries to

1252
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: tackle him, which again is allowed. You can take these

1253
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: guys to the ground, jumps on Achmed's back and it

1254
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: kind of gets ridden, frankly, for about five or six yards,

1255
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: and it got to the point, James where it turned

1256
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: into a little bit of slow motion, and I thought,

1257
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: we're all waiting for him to let go. Yeah, I thought,

1258
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: watching myself like, oh boy, how is this going to end?

1259
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: Because it was starting to get to the hip drop tackle,

1260
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: and unfortunately that's what it turned into. Washington took him

1261
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: to the ground and it was a horrific scene. The

1262
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: right leg injury labeled as a severe right leg injury

1263
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: by Shane Stike in very quickly the field. The crowd

1264
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: immediately silent and sadly, the only thing that could be

1265
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: heard was the scream, the very audible scream from Ahmed.

1266
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: Team came around him, cam bine him and appeared to

1267
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: lead the team in a prayer. He was eventually I

1268
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 1: think air cast, stretchered off, looked like there was an

1269
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: ambulance coming to pick him up there. Shortly thereafter, again

1270
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: Shane Snake and said after practice severe right league injury

1271
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:13,479
Speaker 1: on that's just awful. And I guess I will say this, James,

1272
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: because you were out there at the practice. Last year

1273
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: we saw a little bit of a similar play from

1274
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: Nick Cross against Josh Downs.

1275
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Last year that cost I think Josh Downs the

1276
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 2: first two weeks of the season because.

1277
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: Cast him about a month or so. Yeah, I would

1278
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: say two things different from this play. One, that play

1279
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: with Cross was not a live tackling period. No, this

1280
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: was two. That play occurred a little bit more in

1281
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: the middle of the field like in the action.

1282
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a little bit more like bang bang type.

1283
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 1: Of day where this one with docmed is again, he's

1284
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: thirty yards down the field. He's a borderline going to score.

1285
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 2: I believe he might have scored, you know, before the

1286
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 2: injury actually occurred. He was crossing the goal one at least,

1287
00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 2: or just.

1288
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: To set all that up, play the Sire Franklin clip

1289
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: and I'll let you react to it, James. But this

1290
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: was Sire Franklin after practice yesterday in describing what he

1291
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: saw and sounded like he was one of the veteran

1292
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: leaders that Shane sack can talked to you after the

1293
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: play about, you know, should they finish practice.

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01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 5: I love Savon. I mean I've known savan for about

1295
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 5: nine years, my knowing back when he was at you Dub,

1296
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 5: back when I was training in Seattle as a young pup.

1297
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 5: Extremely tough, you know, praying for him, loving on him.

1298
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 5: I'm obviously shoot him a text. I know he's probably

1299
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 5: going through all kind of mental stuff right now. It's

1300
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 5: a tough situation, you know, young try I mean, he's

1301
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 5: competing for a job straight up, you know. So he's

1302
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 5: out here trying to compete and trying to be better.

1303
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 5: And you know, we're warriors on that field. When we

1304
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 5: step on that field, we understand what's what's what the

1305
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 5: possibilities are. Obviously we're a team, so we're trying to

1306
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 5: we're not trying to hurt each other, but at the

1307
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 5: same time we're competing. These guys are trying to feed

1308
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 5: their family, so it's a part of the game. But

1309
01:00:57,840 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 5: definitely a tough break for Zvon.

1310
01:00:59,080 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 1: Definitely praying for him.

1311
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 2: I couldn't, you know, necessarily fathom what Savannah is going through.

1312
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 2: And obviously I've never played football at that level to

1313
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 2: really sit up here and say, oh my gosh, I

1314
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 2: can understand completely where they're coming from his teammates. But

1315
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 2: I thought what Zayer said was pretty you know, empathetic

1316
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 2: and also kind of shows, you know, the brotherhood of

1317
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 2: the NFL, of this game that they play. And I

1318
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 2: thought it was interesting and also fitting that Zayer would

1319
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 2: also extend some grace to trade Washington, because keep in

1320
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:41,439
Speaker 2: mind those live periods, those reps. The reason why Trede

1321
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 2: Washington actually went that hard I believe in that moment

1322
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 2: was because every little thing counts, and I think Zayer

1323
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 2: is a perfect person to talk to and allude to

1324
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 2: in regard to that Kevin, because this is someone who

1325
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 2: may not have had the opportunity to become last year

1326
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 2: a second team All Pro if he didn't get those

1327
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 2: developments reps years ago as a seventh round pick, trying

1328
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 2: to make the roster, trying to make a name for himself.

1329
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 2: So you know, if people are upset about the live

1330
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 2: tackling period, it's like, well, you know, these guys need

1331
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 2: that to showcase what they can do, and without that,

1332
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 2: you wouldn't see some of the underdog sorts of sex

1333
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 2: stories that you've had. Now, no, I'm on a tangent here,

1334
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 2: but that's one of the reasons why you're talking to

1335
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 2: some of the guys about the NFL possibly shortened the preseason.

1336
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 2: It's like, well, if you shorten the preseason, all the underdogs,

1337
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 2: all the guys that might be diamonds in the roughs,

1338
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 2: they'll have less opportunities to kind of be that person.

1339
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 2: And so again, unfortunate to play yesterday with Trade Washington

1340
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 2: and Savann. But at the same time, I don't think

1341
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 2: that like this should be a referendum on like, oh

1342
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 2: my gosh, we should never tackle again in live periods.

1343
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: Or Charlie asked if you should cut him, Trey Washington,

1344
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: would you cut him over that play?

1345
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 2: I think I would have to sit down after my

1346
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,919
Speaker 2: or just frustration had, you know, dispersed, because in the moment,

1347
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 2: I was definitely saying cut him. In the moment, I'm like,

1348
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 2: just get off the field. What are you doing? But

1349
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 2: now you know I haven't slept on it myself. This is

1350
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 2: me personally, James Boyd. I do feel for him. I

1351
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 2: understand he's a rookie. He's coming from a level where

1352
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 2: they allow that kind of tackle, So honestly, it would

1353
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 2: be a knock on him, but it wouldn't be in

1354
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 2: my opinion, something where I'm like, you got to just

1355
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 2: get out of my sight. I brought him in for

1356
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 2: a reason. I want to see how you perform. Can

1357
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 2: you bounce back from this? And honestly, you know, it

1358
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 2: was a long shot for you to make the roster anyway.

1359
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 2: But I don't know if I necessarily cut him for that.

1360
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I would either. Yeah, they're all

1361
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 1: emotion of watching that unfold yesterday and you had fans

1362
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 1: chirping at him. Frankly, right after that play happened, Chris

1363
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 1: Bauer did go over to him. It looked like pretty quickly,

1364
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 1: right after the play happened. I assume some sort of consoling.

1365
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 1: I think there were some veteran defenders that went over.

1366
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 1: I mean he stayed knelt on that sideline for a while,

1367
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 1: like even when they restarted. He knows, he knows, Yeah,

1368
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: he knows full well. I thought, though the Zaire clip,

1369
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 1: I wanted to play that for a reason. You know,

1370
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 1: I feel like Zaia was a seventh round pick out

1371
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,479
Speaker 1: of Syracuse, so at one point he was in Trey

1372
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 1: Washington shoes. I think it's the very difficult dynamic. And

1373
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 1: you know, I think you bring up a good point

1374
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 1: undrafted kid from college. You know, again, Nick Cross wasn't undrafted,

1375
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:19,439
Speaker 1: you know when that happened last year, and that wasn't

1376
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 1: even a live tackling period, right, So so far obviously

1377
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 1: we've seen nothing from a.

1378
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 2: Points again there, you would never see a lot of

1379
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 2: the underdog stories.

1380
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 1: Third teamers get three to five reps every pic.

1381
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it is just, you know, a very poor

1382
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 2: decision and obviously a very ugly outcome.

1383
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 1: Marco Tida Morning to check out.

1384
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 6: The morning checkdown on Nutty Sweet five and one oh

1385
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 6: seven five the Bay again.

1386
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 1: The colt tend to Baltimore coming up later today, joint

1387
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 1: practice tomorrow, preseason opener Thursday. Let's go out West. Though

1388
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 1: the Indiana Fever continue to play excellent basketball without Caitlyn

1389
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: Clark James, do you make anything out of they are

1390
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 1: just frankly a better defensive team without her on the floor.

1391
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 2: I do think they probably are, but I don't want

1392
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 2: to make that an end all be all because they're

1393
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 2: obviously a different team offensively out there. And you know,

1394
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 2: in the world that I live in watching pros, I

1395
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 2: would take the offensive engine, the offensive savant over, you know,

1396
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 2: perhaps some of the defensive deficiencies.

1397
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 1: Now, five wins in a row again, all of this

1398
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 1: without their star, and I thought was impressive. Yesterday was again.

1399
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 1: They shot it terrible from three, They had a million turnovers,

1400
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 1: They built a big lead, they held on for tier

1401
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 1: life over the final couple of minutes. But they beat

1402
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 1: Seattle seventy to seventy four, and kind of a quick turnaround,

1403
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 1: you know, they won in Dallas on Friday, quick turnaround

1404
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 1: to playing up in Seattle yesterday, but they were able

1405
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 1: to get it done. They've got the La Sparks coming

1406
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 1: up tomorrow night. That is a ten o'clock for them

1407
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 1: as they continue their longest road trip of the season.

1408
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 1: All right on the Diamond and Dapolis Indians. Back at home,

1409
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 1: they've got the Omaha storm Chasers all week over at

1410
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 1: Victory Field. They did take four of six from the

1411
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 1: Iowa Cubs. Speaking of the Cubs, five three over the Orioles,

1412
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 1: them and the Red Legs. Boy, did the Reds desperately

1413
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 1: need it. They start a big series today and Mark Dacton,

1414
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 1: we have Mondo's on the line apparently.

1415
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1416
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 4: I mean you said what your mother or mother in

1417
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 4: law found mondos? And I didn't know they still made

1418
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 4: those out after nineteen ninety nine, So I want some Mondos.

1419
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 4: So I'm pulling for the Cubs to take care of

1420
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 4: business against the Reds.

1421
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 1: Do you think those have sugar in them?

1422
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 2: Without question? I was gonna say, is that a serious question.

1423
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 1: Yesterday I went to my nephew's basketball game. My daughter

1424
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 1: and my son got some of those like Little Nerd

1425
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 1: candies from Like Nerd licorice, like nerd On licorice nerd ropes, Well,

1426
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 1: not the full ropes. I feel like they're kind of

1427
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 1: like chopped up ropes, like a little smaller candies. Boy,

1428
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 1: I had a couple of those, the clusters. Oh my gosh,

1429
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 1: I could have had thirty of them.

1430
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 2: Oh, those are amazing. What the it's nerds on like

1431
01:06:57,840 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 2: the gummy stuff.

1432
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's unbelievable. Those are my dangerous.

1433
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 2: Those are one of my favorite candies. They're outstanding.

1434
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 1: I had to stop. I had to like put them

1435
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:06,479
Speaker 1: in the bag and like walk away from the bag.

1436
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaking of basketball, I went to see after practice Saturday.

1437
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 2: I went back out to Westfield later that day, Kevin,

1438
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 2: because my old AAU coach, Derreck King, who's now my

1439
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 2: dad's best friend, was in town because his grandson is

1440
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 2: playing AU BASKETBA played over at the Pacers Athletic and

1441
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 2: Evincent and the first time I ever been over there

1442
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 2: for a game. And Kevin, you've spent more time in Westfield. Yeah,

1443
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 2: I went Friday night back out there as well. I

1444
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 2: had a teacher that moved to Westfield recently and she

1445
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:36,919
Speaker 2: wanted to visit.

1446
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 3: You.

1447
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 2: Andy Cook, the mayor I know so I mean, I've been,

1448
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 2: you know, putting a lot of mouths in the car

1449
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 2: seeing people that I love. But nevertheless, I wanted to

1450
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 2: tell that to complain twenty dollars to get in for

1451
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 2: this AU tournament. And they were asking me do I

1452
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 2: want a day pass or a weekend pass because the

1453
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 2: weekend passed was thirty five dollars, and I was like,

1454
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 2: if I'm I don't pay thirty five dollars to see

1455
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 2: Tyre's Halliburton and Kaitland Clark. I was thinking, I bet

1456
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 2: to see some some good buckets up in here. And

1457
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 2: I was joking with his grandson, who I've known him

1458
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 2: for years. They lost by two in this game, and

1459
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 2: he actually had pretty good game, hescoing fourteen points off

1460
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 2: the bench, and I told him, I was like, you

1461
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 2: do realize. I was going, you know, boo, you if

1462
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 2: you were coming out here and sticking it up and

1463
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 2: I paid twenty dollars in here, I was going to

1464
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 2: ask you for my money back. But he he, he

1465
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 2: gave us you know some nice action.

1466
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think ours was seventeen bucks. So for me,

1467
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:22,839
Speaker 1: Rosie and now old.

1468
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 2: Because the kid I went to go see is a

1469
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 2: sophomore in high school.

1470
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,440
Speaker 1: I'm watching a third grader playback.

1471
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 2: Seventeen bucks or a third grade Who I mean inflation people, Yeah, inflation.

1472
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 1: That was stunned. But I mean the things you do

1473
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 1: for love. Yeah, something along those lines.

1474
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 4: I had my cousin or my my nephew. He's in

1475
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 4: baseball and they had a thing where they had a

1476
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 4: tournament and you had to pay like fifteen dollars to

1477
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 4: watch the game, and then if they advanced, you'd pay

1478
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 4: another ten dollars. I'm like, what, it's not a buy one,

1479
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 4: it's all in.

1480
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 2: I let's say you boy.

1481
01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 4: He was like, okay, you know strike out here is

1482
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 4: the game would take take place later in the day,

1483
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 4: so once you like, they were like, well, these kids

1484
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 4: aren't going to stick around. They got to go have

1485
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 4: lunch and everything like that, so you have to come

1486
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 4: back and pay again. That's ridiculous. What is going on here?

1487
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 3: Coming up on the.

1488
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 1: Other side, the swagger of Ady Mitchell is alive and well,

1489
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,879
Speaker 1: how did the Quarterbacks respond to a pretty poor practice

1490
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 1: on Saturday? Will hit on both of those items. Jeff

1491
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,719
Speaker 1: Rickord will be back tomorrow, Kevin Bow and James Boyd

1492
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 1: to Mark Dyton here on a Monday morning. How did

1493
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks bounce back from what was an ugly one

1494
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 1: on Saturday. We will hit on that here coming up

1495
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 1: in a few. And Ady Mitchell, always a man that

1496
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 1: brings some strong words to the podium, he also had

1497
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,600
Speaker 1: some comments I want to share coming up here in

1498
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 1: a few. I was reminded of this over the weekend.

1499
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 1: I saw the Pacers tweeted out, I want to say

1500
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 1: this is Friday that it was the five year anniversary

1501
01:09:53,560 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 1: of TJ. Warren scoring fifty three points in the first

1502
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 1: game from the bubble. I'll never forget that game in

1503
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 1: that night for a couple of reasons. One, I remember

1504
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 1: it was the first time that Rosie slept through the

1505
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 1: night and I thought I was literally having a dream

1506
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 1: when all of a sudden, wo, I thought the power

1507
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 1: had gone down in the house. When I woke up,

1508
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:16,799
Speaker 1: and I was like, wait, what happened? How she's still sleeping?

1509
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 1: Is she elive? Should I go in there and check

1510
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 1: her breath? TJ. Warren retweeted the Pacers highlight reel of

1511
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 1: his effort against the Suns where he was I believe

1512
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 1: it's his former team, by the way, nine of twelve

1513
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 1: from three James Boyd the caption that TJ. Warren shared,

1514
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: like throwing a rock in the ocean.

1515
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 2: He was shooting that thinging as possible to see three

1516
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 2: from TJ.

1517
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 1: Warren.

1518
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 2: That's a lot of buckets.

1519
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,640
Speaker 1: That bubble run. He wasn't fifty three obviously every night,

1520
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,680
Speaker 1: but like I feel like he had a couple thirty pointers.

1521
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 2: And that was a team honestly.

1522
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I know the Pacers didn't last very

1523
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,520
Speaker 1: long in the old bubble there in terms of the playoffs,

1524
01:10:55,520 --> 01:11:00,799
Speaker 1: but man, TJ. Warren was getting some buckets just injury

1525
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 1: with him. Yeah, foot right.

1526
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 2: I want to say my first year and only year

1527
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 2: covering the Pacers full time was twenty twenty one, twenty two,

1528
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 2: and I started in like November of that year. Kevin

1529
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 2: and I never spoke to TJ. Warren because he never

1530
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 2: got healthy. It was two weeks then it was, you know,

1531
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 2: weeks turned into months.

1532
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the old quote. I forget who the

1533
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 1: coach would have been, the Yorker and McMillan, whoever it was,

1534
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 1: but that was the whole Like we're talking in weeks

1535
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 1: not days, right, Yeah, wasn't that kind of the update

1536
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 1: we would get on him?

1537
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 2: Yep, And honestly, I think that was Rick because I

1538
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 2: was Rick's first year back. Ricked the team. Yeah, so

1539
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 2: that was rough, and I don't think he spoke until

1540
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 2: perhaps out of after the season or something like that.

1541
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 2: But yeah, injuries kind of messed him up. But TJ. Warren,

1542
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 2: to his credit, even before the fifty three point game,

1543
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 2: he's a pretty good scorer. I mean that was his

1544
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 2: mo in the NBA. It's just a bucket getter and

1545
01:11:57,720 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 2: someone who could fill it up.

1546
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 1: Jamie says this, I keep thinking of the early cult

1547
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 1: schedule favors Daniel Jones as the starting quarterback. These are

1548
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 1: obviously super important games if you want any chance of

1549
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and if Daniel Jones is the more consistent

1550
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 1: player with the higher floor, I gotta feel the scars

1551
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:18,719
Speaker 1: from last year will lead to Shane Stike and playing

1552
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 1: it's safe with DJ. Appreciate your thoughts that from Jamie.

1553
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 2: So my counter to Jamie would be it which I

1554
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 2: don't think that's necessarily a bad idea or the wrong idea,

1555
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 2: is that can you frame the quarterback competition in the

1556
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 2: manner of who will give you the best chance to

1557
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 2: win those first two games? Or are you doing it

1558
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 2: for the vitality of the season. Are you doing it

1559
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 2: for development as well? When it comes to Anthony, That's

1560
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 2: my question is like, can you get that sort of

1561
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 2: finite with your decision to say, well, this guy might

1562
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 2: be better for these two games in particular versus the

1563
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 2: rest of the schedule.

1564
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:05,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Shane Sticken's got a very tough dilemma

1565
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: within his own like kind of internal mindset, if you will,

1566
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:13,839
Speaker 1: Because the thought when you drafted Richardson was the NFL

1567
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 1: is it's too difficult to drive eighty yards in twelve place.

1568
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:21,639
Speaker 1: You can't live in digg and dunk. You can't. Defenses

1569
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 1: are too good offenses. You're eventually gonna have a penalty.

1570
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 1: You're eventually gonna have a drop. You can't live with

1571
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 1: that either. But it almost seems like two years under

1572
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 1: the Richardson experience, as many big plays as as he

1573
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 1: has created, now the thought has become no, no, no,

1574
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 1: we just need consistent, We just need single move the

1575
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 1: runner over, move the runner over, sackfly like that's now

1576
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 1: it seems like Stichen's thought process. And there was a

1577
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 1: moment last Thursday, James in the joint or in that

1578
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 1: situational scrimmage night where Richardson had a drive where Jones

1579
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 1: stalled out the previous strive. I don't know, four plays

1580
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 1: and they punted or you know, I say punting quotes,

1581
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,599
Speaker 1: and then Richardson gets in there and he chucks one

1582
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:12,719
Speaker 1: deep to Doolin and next thing you know, they're moving. Yeah,

1583
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 1: And I want to say he had had maybe an

1584
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 1: incompletion or two before that, like it hadn't been perfect,

1585
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 1: But he offers you the more big playability. So that's

1586
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:26,719
Speaker 1: where I do think Shane, when he does make this decision,

1587
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 1: it's how much does he really mean consistent? Because if

1588
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 1: he does mean that, through nine practices, Daniel Jones is

1589
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 1: the more predictable quarterback. He's the more consistent quarterback. But

1590
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 1: is that enough in a camp where I would say,

1591
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 1: for the most part, through nine practices, Richardson's been a

1592
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 1: little bit more inconsistent. But I would also say it

1593
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 1: hasn't been as egregious as it has been in years past, right,

1594
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:56,600
Speaker 1: So are you willing to live with that? Or to

1595
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 1: Jamie's point, do you look at these first couple of

1596
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 1: games and think they're so important? The shange is bet

1597
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 1: on himself.

1598
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 2: Is it a shame decision. It has to be right.

1599
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it is. I mean I think he

1600
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 1: will listen to Ballard, But yeah, I mean, Shane's the

1601
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 1: head coach. He's to play caller.

1602
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 2: No Carlier Gordon stepping in and saying, hey, you do

1603
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 2: as I say.

1604
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:20,919
Speaker 1: I run this now. I am curious about the Carliers

1605
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 1: Gordon input influence. What does that look like when you're

1606
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 1: talking the Terry McLaurin and Michael Parson stuff, Because if

1607
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 1: I'm her, I'm stepping in and saying, guys, I get

1608
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 1: you're on the hot seat. I get you might want

1609
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 1: to make this move, but I got to think about

1610
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 1: the future of the franchise and we don't have quarterback,

1611
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 1: So don't touch those first round picks. We need those

1612
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 1: And I don't care if you're making that decision next

1613
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 1: year or not for the Annapolis Colts. In the future

1614
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 1: of our franchise, we need that because we haven't put

1615
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 1: a quarterback up on the side of Lucas Oil Stadium

1616
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 1: in quite a while. We need to start putting quarterback

1617
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 1: up there. It can't just be a corner and a

1618
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 1: guard and a running back and a.

1619
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 2: D You know what I was thinking as well. So

1620
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 2: your point about like the posters or banners, whatever you

1621
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 2: want to call on inside of Lucas Oil Stadium. Anthony's

1622
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 2: been a team captain the last two years? Is he

1623
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 2: gonna be a team captain again?

1624
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,480
Speaker 1: I think whoever the starter is right, just just the

1625
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:28,680
Speaker 1: they have to be chaanstack and throws the sea on

1626
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 1: the chest.

1627
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 4: I pose that question you guys, and I got to know.

1628
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 4: I said, will either quarterback be a team captain? Is

1629
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:34,559
Speaker 4: there a team in.

1630
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 1: The NFL that doesn't have their quarterback as a captain.

1631
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 2: That's a good question.

1632
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 1: It just seems like, you know, I give it to you.

1633
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 4: Well, how many franchises don't have their quarterback on the

1634
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 4: side of their building? It's usually the most marketable position.

1635
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just thought that was odd, Like willbe Cleveland?

1636
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little rough out there, a little Derek is

1637
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 1: one hundred percent that Dannymes can't go deep? Yeah, I

1638
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 1: don't think it's that, James. I think we saw a

1639
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 1: few plays in the spring. Honestly, to Pierce, we just

1640
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 1: haven't yet seen in camp. Really.

1641
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he can physically do it.

1642
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 1: I just don't know that he really gets Ryan shot

1643
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 1: arm By.

1644
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 2: No, no, no, he can sling it.

1645
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 1: I think it's just a yeah, there's a desire.

1646
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 2: To not do it and to be more conservative. He's

1647
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 2: a very The way I would describe Danny Dimes is

1648
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 2: the YouTube chat is calling him right now, is that

1649
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:27,639
Speaker 2: he is safe. When I watch him, he looks safe

1650
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 2: where I'm like, okay, And I'm not as harsh as

1651
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 2: Coach Venti, who came on our show last week and

1652
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 2: was like, he doesn't why you in anything? Personality, hair,

1653
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 2: eye color, like, he didn't say that that far, but

1654
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 2: I was like, dang, this guy is a you know,

1655
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 2: maybe not as exciting as some others would like him

1656
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 2: to be.

1657
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 1: Here.

1658
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was funny. I thought I got to

1659
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 2: kick out of that from coach, you know, saying the

1660
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 2: personality might not be there, but I would imagine it

1661
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 2: shows up more on the field and in between the lines.

1662
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 2: And does that matter or does that factor into your

1663
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 2: decision at all? And if it does, you know, how

1664
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:05,640
Speaker 2: do you weigh that? So it's hard for me to

1665
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 2: say when it comes to the quarterback competition, just just

1666
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 2: which way it'll fall, and also what will be how

1667
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:15,759
Speaker 2: do I phrase this, what will be the lasting effect

1668
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 2: of whoever's in there, and do they stay in the mix,

1669
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 2: do they stay in the starting position? Do they stay

1670
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 2: as QB one. That's my biggest thing is like we

1671
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 2: are going to say so much time arguing know who's

1672
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 2: gonna be a starter just for a month to goo

1673
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 2: by and for all of it to be asking potentially,

1674
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 2: well do you start this other guy?

1675
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 4: At this point, I did some quick research. Could you

1676
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 4: name the one NFL team that apparently did not have

1677
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:42,679
Speaker 4: a quarterback as a team captain last year?

1678
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:44,799
Speaker 2: The writers, No.

1679
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 1: Dang, was Watson the captain in Cleveland?

1680
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 2: There's no way, no way, not last year. There's no way.

1681
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 2: He was a hurt and he's obviously been in.

1682
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 1: Was Will Levis the captain for the Titans.

1683
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:01,679
Speaker 4: It says Deshaun Watson was a captain with the Browns,

1684
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 4: and it says Will Levels as a captain of the Titans.

1685
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 2: There was one team trying to think who was bad.

1686
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 1: Mark Choy teases, you know, you know, not be staying

1687
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 1: in their cars to hear this one. That and eighty

1688
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 1: Mitchell's comments.

1689
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 6: On the other side, you were listening to a fan

1690
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 6: morning show on sports Radio ninety three to five and

1691
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 6: one oh seven five.

1692
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 1: The fan talked to NFL in ten kind of league wide.

1693
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 1: Matt Verderram from SI he was at Colts camp a

1694
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 1: little bit early. I think he was at one of

1695
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:46,680
Speaker 1: the bad quarterback days if I remember correctly. Honestly, there

1696
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 1: hasn't been too many of those, but he was there

1697
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 1: at Colts Camp making the rounds throughout the sites. Mark

1698
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 1: Dyton teased us earlier with a the only team in

1699
01:19:56,880 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 1: the NFL last year not to have a quarterback as

1700
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 1: their captain? Is that correct?

1701
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 2: Mark correct? Yes? So this is Wikipedia, So this is

1702
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 2: you know, take this with a grain of salt. This

1703
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:06,639
Speaker 2: is gold.

1704
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 4: But this is supposedly the list of NFL captains, and

1705
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 4: one team from my quick research, did not have a

1706
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 4: single quarterback, saying the Saints. These Saints Derek Carr though,

1707
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 4: Taysom Hill, Eric McCoy, so I would say Taysom Hill

1708
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:31,599
Speaker 4: counts right. Tasom Hill still listens to his quarterback, Cam

1709
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 4: Jordan Tyron, Matthew Tomorio Davis.

1710
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, So Derek Carr wasn't a captain last year.

1711
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:38,640
Speaker 2: I was trying to go down all the team not

1712
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:40,679
Speaker 2: according to that. Wow.

1713
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 1: Derek Carrs past history in the NFL doesn't make him

1714
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:44,679
Speaker 1: a captain, but Anthony Richardson does.

1715
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:45,760
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1716
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 4: Again, this is Wikipedia, so maybe he was and they

1717
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 4: just did all right, I'm trying to think of another guess.

1718
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 4: All right, do you want any hints?

1719
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:54,719
Speaker 2: Sure?

1720
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 4: This team hasn't really been known for very good quarterback

1721
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 4: play in the last probably five years.

1722
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:02,680
Speaker 1: Well, thank you for clarifying.

1723
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:05,759
Speaker 4: Wow, that's a great Hey, the last quarterback they had

1724
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 4: was a potential Hall of Famer. There's a lot of

1725
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:11,600
Speaker 4: debate as whether he's a Hall of Famer or not.

1726
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:18,640
Speaker 7: Giant the New York Football Giants, that is a I

1727
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 7: should have guessed because their quarter Andrew Gimes was not

1728
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:26,559
Speaker 7: a captain though Andrew Thomas, Bobby Ocarake, Dexter Lawrence, and

1729
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 7: Casey Kreiter.

1730
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 2: Wow, Danie Jones wasn't a team captain for them, by

1731
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 2: the way, speaking.

1732
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 1: Of Bobby ocarricay, did you guys, and again, I didn't

1733
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 1: watch the game, but I saw the post game of

1734
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 1: the Chargers locker room after the Hall of Fame game.

1735
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 1: Did you see Jim Harball let Nim Hines break down

1736
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:41,560
Speaker 1: the team?

1737
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 2: I did not see that, but I'm excited. Really had

1738
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 2: a chance to do that.

1739
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously through a lot, been through a ton the

1740
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 1: jet ski accident, and he played a lot in that

1741
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game. I didn't realize this, but I

1742
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 1: think he led the team in the amount of carrees,

1743
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 1: did some return duty. So he's trying to make it

1744
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:59,479
Speaker 1: with the Chargers now. And uh yeah, shout out with

1745
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 1: Jim Harby off for letting Nahim Heinz break it down

1746
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 1: the other night for him.

1747
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 2: And how long ago was it when he was with

1748
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:10,679
Speaker 2: the Colts. I want to say that was twenty twenty two.

1749
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, they traded him run but midyear for Sack Moss.

1750
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the last time I believe he really

1751
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 2: played extensively in the NFL.

1752
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 1: Late round pick with the Buffalo. Didn't really play a

1753
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 1: lot in Buffalo.

1754
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 2: That's crazy to start throwing special teams.

1755
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 1: And I want to say he maybe had a Did

1756
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 1: he have a kick return for a touchdown the game

1757
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:28,479
Speaker 1: after Jamar Hamlin?

1758
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it might have been two in the

1759
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:32,759
Speaker 2: same game. It was crazy to in the game, crazy

1760
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 2: crazy performance. But obviously when he was here and I

1761
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 2: didn't cover him a lot, but briefly he was a

1762
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 2: very nice guy.

1763
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree wholeheartedly on that James, we didn't

1764
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 1: have a show after the Saturday practice. If we did

1765
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:48,720
Speaker 1: have a show after that Saturday morning practice, you would

1766
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 1: have described the quarterback play as what.

1767
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:56,639
Speaker 2: Yuck ill pu That's what I would have been saying,

1768
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 2: because it was stinky with some of the play that

1769
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 2: we saw. Anthony Richardson in particular, really struggled. I believe

1770
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 2: he was three of ten in the team periods Kevin,

1771
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 2: and you know through an interception to Kenny Woe's second

1772
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 2: should have got picked off again in seven on seven

1773
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 2: by Sam Walmack, who jumped route. Just a rough day

1774
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 2: from him, and honestly, we hadn't seen a day I

1775
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 2: think that poorly from him, arguably throughout all of camp,

1776
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 2: even counting the beginning of camp. And then I thought

1777
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 2: that Daniel Jones was on Saturday. He wasn't as bad

1778
01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 2: as Anthony, but certainly wasn't all that good. I think

1779
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 2: he threw two picks in seven on seven and both

1780
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 2: really struggled in the red zone, and I do wonder

1781
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 2: about that. You know, ideally most teams are just gonna

1782
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 2: run the ball. I do think the Colts will be

1783
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 2: a very good short yardage running team, whether Anthony or

1784
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones is in there, given the addition of Tyler Warren,

1785
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 2: noz JT is really good. However, man, if they have

1786
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 2: to pass, like if it's late in the game and

1787
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 2: you need to save some time and they have to

1788
01:23:57,080 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 2: pass within you know, close quarters, I don't know if

1789
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 2: I trust that because they have not lived good in

1790
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:02,839
Speaker 2: the red zone.

1791
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, their roughest days have easily been in kind of

1792
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:08,679
Speaker 1: those situational periods. I did think Jones was less worse

1793
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 1: than Richardson on Saturday.

1794
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:11,639
Speaker 2: Less worse is always kind of crazy.

1795
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 1: He had a rewrite I think, like I believe it

1796
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 1: was a two minute drive to get them in a

1797
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 1: field goal range. Yeah, at the end of practice, whereas

1798
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 1: Richardson's drive stalled out pretty quickly there. But they definitely

1799
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 1: bounced back Yesterday, again, we'll throw in the context that

1800
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 1: I think is necessary. The Cults are down three of

1801
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:30,719
Speaker 1: their top five corners again yesterday. Your various wars seems

1802
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 1: to be one day on, one day off right now

1803
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 1: here in the training camp setting. And I thought yesterday,

1804
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 1: from a guy that needs a lot of work and

1805
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 1: a lot of developmental stuff from the pocket, needs to

1806
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 1: get better I thought yesterday was Riley Leonard's best day. Yes,

1807
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 1: he was balling the National title game. It looked like, Yeah.

1808
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 2: I was thinking, if you got a little bit more

1809
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 2: of this in the first half of that game, maybe

1810
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:52,479
Speaker 2: you're a national champion.

1811
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:55,920
Speaker 4: Kevin started unbuttoning his shirt with the shamrock painted on it.

1812
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:57,080
Speaker 4: He was getting very excited.

1813
01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 2: He certainly was.

1814
01:24:58,080 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 1: I think James has heard enough of my Riley Leonard

1815
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:01,759
Speaker 1: comments to know that.

1816
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and honestly, your true thoughts are probably correct

1817
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:09,639
Speaker 2: because he had struggled passing the ball throughout training camp

1818
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:11,719
Speaker 2: and to pump the breaks a little bit. I believe

1819
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 2: I got a comment on one of my stories this

1820
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:15,800
Speaker 2: morning because I mentioned him in passing and someone was like,

1821
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 2: oh man, this is promising. He could be, you know,

1822
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 2: the quarterback if Anthony Richard Dale Jones don't work out, No,

1823
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 2: he cannot. No, they if they start Riley Leonard, they

1824
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 2: would be, in my mind tanking for a top five

1825
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 2: pick next year. He's he's not an NFL quarterback right now.

1826
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:34,639
Speaker 2: As far as starting quarterback. Now, he has some tools

1827
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 2: that you can work with and make him I believe,

1828
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 2: a quality backup option, but at least yesterday was a

1829
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 2: step in the right direction and kind of gives you like,

1830
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 2: you know, if you switch your eyes. Okay, I can

1831
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 2: see why he was chosen in the sixth round and

1832
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 2: why they like some of his traits. And he was

1833
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:53,080
Speaker 2: having a blast out there. And really credit to him

1834
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:56,679
Speaker 2: because he threw some dimes. This was not just him,

1835
01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:00,679
Speaker 2: no check down. No, he was throwing some ice passes

1836
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 2: down the field and having some fun with it, which

1837
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 2: he probably needed a day like that because of you know,

1838
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:07,760
Speaker 2: again just how hard it is to transition to the

1839
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 2: NFL at all, let alone at quarterback.

1840
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:13,559
Speaker 1: Matt Verderm from SSI, he's gonna join us coming up

1841
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 1: on the other side. We'll talk NFL training camps. He's

1842
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 1: been on some tours. We'll have him join us.

1843
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 2: Next.

1844
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 1: It is the Fan Morning Show right here, Kevin Bowen,

1845
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 1: James Boyd and Mark Dyton, nine o'clock hour here on

1846
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 1: this some Monday morning. Colts off from today. Actually it's

1847
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 1: a travel day for the Colt travel day for James Boyd.

1848
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 1: Colts will be yeah, I'll.

1849
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 2: Be you know, sitting next to Daniel Jones and Anthony

1850
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:40,879
Speaker 2: Richardson and breaking down film on the way to Baltimore

1851
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 2: and asking him, hey, this is what I saw. Hey, Anthony,

1852
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 2: you gotta get the ball here. Daniel, come on, man,

1853
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 2: wake up. You know I'll make sure to get report

1854
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 2: back and let you all know what they think of

1855
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:49,599
Speaker 2: coach Boyd.

1856
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 1: Slightly different lines of TSA for Daniel Jones versus.

1857
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 2: James Boyd today. Let my prechect though, I must say.

1858
01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 1: Jeff will be back Tomorrow'll be Jeff and myself Kevin.

1859
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 1: The next couple of days for James rejoins US joint

1860
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:07,840
Speaker 1: practice coming up tomorrow in Baltimore, Agan the preseason opener Thursday. James,

1861
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say there's been a lot of national media

1862
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 1: making the rounds to Grand Park. There's been a little bit.

1863
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 1: And our next guest is one of the members of

1864
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 1: the national media that has been to Grand Park.

1865
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:22,599
Speaker 2: Yes, Matt Verdam from s I made the trip out

1866
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 2: to Westfield to see Colds practice and he was kind

1867
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 2: enough joining us this morning. So, Matt, how you.

1868
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 1: Doing, my man?

1869
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 3: I'm good. How are you?

1870
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 2: I do want to ask, I'm doing great as well.

1871
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 2: But where are you right now?

1872
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:35,080
Speaker 1: You on the road?

1873
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 3: No, it's actually uh, I'm gonna be I'm maybe be

1874
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 3: in Kansas City tomorrow. But I'm home. I've went on

1875
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 3: for the weekend, so I'm for a day yeaheah.

1876
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 2: For the phones listening, Matt is one of those guys

1877
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:48,680
Speaker 2: who makes you know several tips around the country this

1878
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 2: time of year to catch in and checking in all

1879
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 2: the camps. And you were able to stop by Colds Camp.

1880
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 2: And obviously a lot is transpired since then with the quarterbacks,

1881
01:27:57,360 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 2: but just your initial thought on the quarterback battle, and

1882
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 2: you know which way would you be leading right now

1883
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 2: with the context of knowing, at least for those here

1884
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 2: on the ground, be honest that one day you were

1885
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 2: out here, Matt, that it has been relatively even, but

1886
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:13,920
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones has been more consistent Anthony probably more explosive.

1887
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, when they signed Daniel Jones, my

1888
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 3: first thought was that Daniel Jones is going to get

1889
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:22,040
Speaker 3: a real shot to start, and I think he probably

1890
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:26,559
Speaker 3: will start now. I kind of feel though, like, if

1891
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 3: it's even close, I would start Richardson, because if you

1892
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 3: start Richardson and he's not good, it doesn't work. Whatever, Okay,

1893
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 3: you just go to Daniel Jones. If you start Daniel Jones,

1894
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:45,599
Speaker 3: you're essentially saying, hey, look, we're doing Anthony Richardson and

1895
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 3: I don't know, like yet, could you go back to him,

1896
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:52,280
Speaker 3: Yes you can, but you're telling him you have no

1897
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 3: confidence in him, you have no faith in him. So

1898
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:57,920
Speaker 3: I just think if you're the Colts, you're not winning

1899
01:28:57,920 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl Daniel Jones. It's not like Daniel Jon

1900
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:01,720
Speaker 3: I was just going to go in there and be unbelievable.

1901
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 3: That's not gonna happen. So I would try to go

1902
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 3: with my number four overall pick first, and then if

1903
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 3: it doesn't work out, okay, fine, then then you go

1904
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 3: to Jones and you at least made a good faith out.

1905
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:17,879
Speaker 1: Matt. You are a part of the group that chatted

1906
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 1: with both quarterbacks. I think it's a little different than

1907
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:23,559
Speaker 1: the candid nature Anthony Richardson versus Daniel Jones. But I

1908
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 1: was kind of struck by some of Richardson's comments with

1909
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 1: you guys. He certainly I thought, was you know, pretty

1910
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 1: candid and explaining like all right, I got a bleep

1911
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:34,679
Speaker 1: and get off the pot right now. Could you share

1912
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 1: a little bit of what that conversation was like with him?

1913
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I look, he was right, Canda. I think we

1914
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 3: spoke him for about eight minutes, and he I led

1915
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:46,840
Speaker 3: with a quote in my camp report from Indianapolis that

1916
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:50,759
Speaker 3: they saying, Look, you know, Richardson sat there and said

1917
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:54,720
Speaker 3: to us, well, I got to stop slacking off. I mean,

1918
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 3: that's a quote. D I don't think I've ever had

1919
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 3: an NFL player say to me They've got to stop

1920
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 3: slacking off. So in one hand, you're like, well, jeez,

1921
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:03,840
Speaker 3: I mean, you've been slacking off the last few years.

1922
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:07,720
Speaker 3: That's not great. On the other hand, it takes you know,

1923
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:10,680
Speaker 3: real introspection to be able to say that and to

1924
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 3: say it assumingly with the idea that you've stopped now.

1925
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:16,320
Speaker 3: You know. Look, he also talked about he wants to

1926
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 3: master the offense and you want to be able to

1927
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:22,439
Speaker 3: teach the offense like a coach. All that stuff is really,

1928
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:28,360
Speaker 3: you know, encouraging. The question becomes, Okay, how much progress

1929
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 3: can you make in an off season, because he's got

1930
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:32,040
Speaker 3: to make a lot. I mean, he was awful last year,

1931
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:36,360
Speaker 3: so he was forthcoming. He acknowledged Factor's startle last season.

1932
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:39,080
Speaker 3: He acknowledged fact that he frankly hasn't been putting in

1933
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:40,840
Speaker 3: the amount of work he had to put in, but

1934
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 3: he feels like he rectified that the offseason. Does that

1935
01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 3: show up in his play, and you know, look, I

1936
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 3: give him credit for recognizing that, but at the same point,

1937
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:52,680
Speaker 3: that's also you know, let's be honest. I mean, that's

1938
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:55,599
Speaker 3: a rough look for a guy who you're coming into

1939
01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:58,760
Speaker 3: the league expected to be the franchise. But I would

1940
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:00,240
Speaker 3: also sit here and say he's one of them the

1941
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 3: experienced quarterbacks that ever walked to the NFL, and he hadn't

1942
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 3: thrown a thousand passes between high school and college, So

1943
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 3: it's a it's a learning curve. But JENFL, they're not

1944
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:12,599
Speaker 3: gonna give you five years. You got to figure it out,

1945
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:14,439
Speaker 3: and he's obviously, you know, he's got to figure it

1946
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:15,160
Speaker 3: out right now.

1947
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:20,680
Speaker 2: To piggyback off that Matt, We've heard a lot of conversations,

1948
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:23,599
Speaker 2: and I believe Chris Ballad's even admitted at this point

1949
01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:26,840
Speaker 2: maybe we gave him too much too soon, or perhaps

1950
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:29,400
Speaker 2: we shouldn't have played him right out the gate. From

1951
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:34,320
Speaker 2: your perspective, how has that conversation around quarterbacks changed? Because

1952
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 2: I haven't seen in my time covering the NFL, and

1953
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 2: I'm going to my fourth season, and obviously I've watched

1954
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 2: and been a fan for quite some time. But over

1955
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:47,559
Speaker 2: the last ten years, who's the quarterback that was drafted

1956
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:51,600
Speaker 2: very high, that weighted and sat When I hear references

1957
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:54,759
Speaker 2: about that, it's Patrick Mahomes, it's Aaron Rodgers and others.

1958
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 2: But I mean, those years are getting further and further away,

1959
01:31:57,920 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 2: and I don't know if the NFL is is it

1960
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:01,880
Speaker 2: patient enough as a league to draft the guys has

1961
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson and not playing right away? Or how do

1962
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:06,400
Speaker 2: you I guess fall in that debate.

1963
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:09,680
Speaker 3: No. I mean, look with Rogers and the Homes, the

1964
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:11,640
Speaker 3: same thing that's true with both guys. Those guys were

1965
01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 3: drafted by teams that were originally picking in the twenties,

1966
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:17,120
Speaker 3: and Rogers was actually taking in the twenties Malls. I mean,

1967
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:19,719
Speaker 3: the Chiefs went from twenty seven to ten. The Chiefs

1968
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:22,559
Speaker 3: were twelve and four the year Mahomes got drafted. They

1969
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:24,439
Speaker 3: had the luxury of sitting there and saying, hey, we're

1970
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:26,240
Speaker 3: gonna play Alex Smith. We're a really good team with

1971
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:29,560
Speaker 3: Alex Smith. So it's different than when you're drafting a

1972
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:31,840
Speaker 3: guy and you know, I remember that year when the

1973
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:33,880
Speaker 3: Colts draft and you know, Richardson and I got to

1974
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:36,839
Speaker 3: camp that year and it's him and it's Gardner. Minshew,

1975
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:40,160
Speaker 3: you're gonna play Anti Richardson. You just are. I got it.

1976
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:42,439
Speaker 3: It's like dreat May last year. And there's also talking, Oh,

1977
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 3: are the Pats going to play Trader? Yeah they are,

1978
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:47,000
Speaker 3: They're gonna play Trake May because they stink they're gonna

1979
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:49,880
Speaker 3: play them, you know. I mean, it's just the other

1980
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:52,280
Speaker 3: thing that's different is, yeah, I'm thirty month. Help, it's

1981
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 3: my birthday. It's Morris, I'm thirty seven.

1982
01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:57,000
Speaker 2: Like birds, thank you?

1983
01:32:57,160 --> 01:32:59,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you gotta hang up, man, I mean, what

1984
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:01,760
Speaker 1: the James boys booking you on?

1985
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:04,120
Speaker 2: He didn't tell me that. He didn't tell me that. Yeah,

1986
01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:06,920
Speaker 2: I real love out here from my friends.

1987
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:07,280
Speaker 1: Kevin.

1988
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:11,200
Speaker 3: It's thirty. It's thirty seven, guys, it's not twenty one. Yes,

1989
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:15,040
Speaker 3: But you know what, Like the point I'm making is

1990
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:17,240
Speaker 3: like I grew up in the nineties where if you

1991
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 3: hired a coach, that coach got three years, right, like

1992
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:23,160
Speaker 3: Minim that guy was getting three years. You might have

1993
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:26,360
Speaker 3: one year now in the NF maybe two, But like

1994
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:29,599
Speaker 3: there's not a coach on Earth's getting three guaranteed years

1995
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 3: coming into the league. It's not so I think a

1996
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:36,519
Speaker 3: lot of times these coaches come in and they go, Okay,

1997
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:40,759
Speaker 3: well guess what, we got to win now. I can't wait.

1998
01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:43,439
Speaker 3: I can't wait forever, you know, We've got to It's

1999
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:45,519
Speaker 3: like right now with Jackson Dart with the Giants now,

2000
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:48,000
Speaker 3: Davell actually has had a couple of years because they

2001
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:51,760
Speaker 3: had the early success Dabel. At some point here they're

2002
01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:54,439
Speaker 3: playing Jackson Dart. They're just gonna like if they're one

2003
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:58,360
Speaker 3: and four of Russell Wilson, Jackson Dart's playing because Dabel's

2004
01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:00,439
Speaker 3: gonna sit there and so is Joejan They're gonna go, well,

2005
01:34:00,479 --> 01:34:03,880
Speaker 3: we got to win now. We've got to show something now.

2006
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:07,160
Speaker 3: And if we don't do that, we're all. We're fired,

2007
01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 3: We're gone. Our kids are changing schools like we get

2008
01:34:10,240 --> 01:34:12,720
Speaker 3: to do. So I think that's a lot of it too.

2009
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:14,959
Speaker 3: There's just no patience in the league anymore.

2010
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:18,679
Speaker 1: Matt Verderan from SI with us here on his thirty

2011
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 1: seventh birthday. Gosh, that just makes me all of a

2012
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:24,880
Speaker 1: sudden cringe that I'm gonna be thirty six next month

2013
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 1: and I'll probably feel the sameay Matt feels about his

2014
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:29,720
Speaker 1: thirty seventh birthday here coming up, Matt, let's go with

2015
01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:31,960
Speaker 1: the two big names in the NFC East right now

2016
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:34,879
Speaker 1: and their futures. Do you think more realistic Michael Parsons

2017
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:38,000
Speaker 1: gets moved or more realistic Terry McLaurin gets moved.

2018
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:40,479
Speaker 3: I don't think either one of them are getting moved.

2019
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:43,160
Speaker 3: But if I had to say one or the other,

2020
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:46,280
Speaker 3: I'll say I'll say McClaren just because he's older. But

2021
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:50,479
Speaker 3: I would be shocked. I'd be shocked if they're a commander.

2022
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:52,519
Speaker 3: You just went to the MFGY championship game for first

2023
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 3: time since nineteen ninety one. You're going to trade that guy?

2024
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 3: And who's your number one receiver? Deebo Samuel. I'm sorry,

2025
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:01,479
Speaker 3: Deebo Samuel's not anybody's want to shave, Okay, I mean

2026
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:07,320
Speaker 3: you cannot tell. Jayden Daniels Haylo Jaydon, you're the offensive

2027
01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:11,200
Speaker 3: rookie of the year. You were spectacular. You've turned around

2028
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 3: the biggest dumpster fire for franchise in the league for

2029
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:16,720
Speaker 3: the last twenty five years running. Like we're gonna trade

2030
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:20,479
Speaker 3: away your only real weapon. Good luck to you. I mean,

2031
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:24,559
Speaker 3: you can't, he can't do that, and also too, who

2032
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:25,240
Speaker 3: are they paying?

2033
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 2: You know?

2034
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:28,599
Speaker 3: I mean, Deron Payn's getting paid, Tunzels paid. He's not short.

2035
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:31,040
Speaker 3: They's got the money. I just think they figure it

2036
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:33,000
Speaker 3: out here at some point. I'd be shocked if they don't.

2037
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 3: The Cowboys you also sit there and say, look, history

2038
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:39,599
Speaker 3: just says Jerry's eventually going to overpay Mike Brses. That's

2039
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:42,559
Speaker 3: what he does. He's just he's gonna sit there. Jerry

2040
01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:45,840
Speaker 3: just wants to have headlines for a month before he pays.

2041
01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:48,439
Speaker 3: The guy now in the process is going to infuriate

2042
01:35:48,479 --> 01:35:51,479
Speaker 3: everybody in the building. But he doesn't care because you Sherry,

2043
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:55,080
Speaker 3: and he just wants I made this point on a

2044
01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 3: podcast I did yesterday. Jerry Jones doesn't care if he wins.

2045
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:02,680
Speaker 3: He does, doesn't care, he's not, it doesn't matter. He

2046
01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:05,880
Speaker 3: wants to be in the headlines. Jerry's version of winning

2047
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 3: is leading first. Takes a block four times a week.

2048
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:12,280
Speaker 3: That's what Jerry cares about. And if Jerry does that

2049
01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:14,880
Speaker 3: and they go nine and eight, that's great. Hang the banner.

2050
01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:18,439
Speaker 3: That's all he cares like. He doesn't. They're not a

2051
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:21,320
Speaker 3: serious franchise and they haven't been for a long time.

2052
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:25,000
Speaker 3: And I think eventually he'll pay Parsons forty three million

2053
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:27,479
Speaker 3: a year, and Parsons will get over it, because money,

2054
01:36:27,680 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 3: you know, fixes everything, right. I mean, if your boss

2055
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:31,400
Speaker 3: pitches you off, but then all of a sudden, your

2056
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:34,200
Speaker 3: boss doubles your shalary, you're pretty good with your boss again.

2057
01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:37,720
Speaker 3: Like it's just I think that's how this goes. I

2058
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:41,360
Speaker 3: think that's how this shakes. But the cowboys in particular

2059
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:45,400
Speaker 3: have a long standing history of waiting forever to pay

2060
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:48,400
Speaker 3: guys and then overpay him. And I think that's exactly

2061
01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:49,000
Speaker 3: what's gonna.

2062
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:51,240
Speaker 2: Happen, Matt. I'll tell you this. You know, when it

2063
01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:53,320
Speaker 2: comes to money, people always say, you know, money can't

2064
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:57,400
Speaker 2: buy happiness, but if I got just enough, it might

2065
01:36:57,439 --> 01:36:59,360
Speaker 2: make it close enough where I can't tell the difference.

2066
01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:05,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, money doesn't buy happiness, but it buys a

2067
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:09,840
Speaker 3: lot of things to make it happy. And yeah, I mean,

2068
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:13,120
Speaker 3: Michael Parsons, if all of a sudden, Jerry walks in

2069
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:16,880
Speaker 3: there and say, hey, Mike, listen, how's four and one

2070
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:21,240
Speaker 3: eighty sound, I gotta tell you, Mike Parson's gonna be

2071
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 3: a cowboy. Like everybody's gonna get over it. That's what's

2072
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 3: gonna happen. And I just I think that's where this

2073
01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:28,280
Speaker 3: will probably end up.

2074
01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 1: Matt. Last one from me. You obviously have done some

2075
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:35,439
Speaker 1: training camp tours and you are about to restart them again.

2076
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:37,920
Speaker 1: I know a lot of them. You no longer go

2077
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 1: off site. Grand Park where Cold Teather Training Camp is

2078
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:43,439
Speaker 1: one of those places you do go off sites about

2079
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:47,240
Speaker 1: a twenty thirty minute drive from their team complex. How

2080
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:50,080
Speaker 1: does that compare to I guess some of your other

2081
01:37:50,160 --> 01:37:53,519
Speaker 1: training camp stops, because that obviously has changed a whole

2082
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:56,960
Speaker 1: lot around the NFL over the last probably ten fifteen years.

2083
01:37:57,840 --> 01:37:59,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I like it. I like getting a

2084
01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:02,679
Speaker 3: team facilities. Like I said, I'll be in Kansas City,

2085
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:08,200
Speaker 3: UH tomorrow for Wednesday's practice. And that's uh that they

2086
01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:11,000
Speaker 3: I mean they practiced at a college out in Saint Joe, Missouri,

2087
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:15,320
Speaker 3: which is I mean they they they're they're at that college.

2088
01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:17,280
Speaker 3: They're in dorm rooms for about five weeks. Mean, they

2089
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:20,880
Speaker 3: don't even leave. But yeah, it's you know, it's it's cool,

2090
01:38:20,920 --> 01:38:22,960
Speaker 3: it's unique. And the Vikings are at their own facility,

2091
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:25,320
Speaker 3: the Lions are at they're at their practice saying with

2092
01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:27,519
Speaker 3: the same with the Bears, and that the Packers are

2093
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:28,920
Speaker 3: right there at Lambo. I mean they're they're in a

2094
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 3: shadow Lambell Field. I think it's always fun, you know,

2095
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 3: to kind of get away and feel like you are

2096
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:40,400
Speaker 3: it was isolated, but you know, kind of just you know,

2097
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:43,000
Speaker 3: in that mode of football. And I think where the

2098
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:47,639
Speaker 3: Colts hold their stuff in the Westfield, it's great for fans.

2099
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:49,680
Speaker 3: You know, they have a great setup. You can get

2100
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:51,640
Speaker 3: in and you can see everybody. And the day I

2101
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:53,400
Speaker 3: was there, it was about one hundred and ten degrees,

2102
01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 3: it felt like and uh yeah, there was packed. It

2103
01:38:57,120 --> 01:38:59,680
Speaker 3: was packed. I mean, so it's I think it's good

2104
01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:01,840
Speaker 3: when ants have full access and they can see the team.

2105
01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:04,000
Speaker 3: And especially for fans maybe they can't afford to go

2106
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:05,960
Speaker 3: to a game and spend a lot kind of money.

2107
01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:08,080
Speaker 3: I think it's a really good thing when teams get

2108
01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:10,479
Speaker 3: away and get fans opportunity to go and watch and

2109
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:12,599
Speaker 3: uh see there see their heroes.

2110
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:15,000
Speaker 1: Well, and we'll see tomorrow if Kansas City is playing

2111
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:20,400
Speaker 1: a little tune maybe here, you know, maybe just a

2112
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:30,720
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, maybe Matt verdram I got down on

2113
01:39:30,760 --> 01:39:32,760
Speaker 1: the sideline. I can see Andy Reid getting down to that.

2114
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:35,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt, what we got on a birthday slate Man

2115
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:37,519
Speaker 2: you can't. Can't be just talking to us on the radio.

2116
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:40,400
Speaker 3: Oh god, what do I have my birthday? Slate?

2117
01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:40,639
Speaker 1: Guy?

2118
01:39:40,640 --> 01:39:44,120
Speaker 3: Have another radio thing? And then I'll probably go play

2119
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:47,880
Speaker 3: some pickle ball because I'm elderly, and then there we go. Yeah,

2120
01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:49,720
Speaker 3: then I don't know, probably, I mean I'm Italian. I'll

2121
01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:51,599
Speaker 3: probably go like a birthday can only and sit there

2122
01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:54,200
Speaker 3: and eat it in silence as my kids are at

2123
01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:55,840
Speaker 3: day camp and just live to drink.

2124
01:39:56,400 --> 01:40:00,160
Speaker 1: There you thirty nothing, scream thirty seven year old more

2125
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:05,080
Speaker 1: than that description right there, Matt murd Durant, Matt safe

2126
01:40:05,120 --> 01:40:06,639
Speaker 1: travels man, and thank you for the time.

2127
01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:08,440
Speaker 3: Hey, thanks walking, I speak.

2128
01:40:08,439 --> 01:40:11,120
Speaker 1: Great stuff right there. For Matt Verderram, the dig at

2129
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:14,120
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones did make me smile here on this Monday

2130
01:40:14,120 --> 01:40:16,919
Speaker 1: morning and have to hold back to him. No, indeed,

2131
01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:19,840
Speaker 1: he does not hold back at all. Jimmy chapming in

2132
01:40:19,880 --> 01:40:21,960
Speaker 1: here he goes You two are completely missing the point

2133
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:24,320
Speaker 1: on the quarterbacks. Both have said it's even, but the

2134
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:27,320
Speaker 1: biggest separation is Ar is an elite runner, as Jones

2135
01:40:27,400 --> 01:40:30,720
Speaker 1: is maybe slightly above average. So it's a no brainer.

2136
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:33,400
Speaker 2: Right, No, I'm not going there at all, he goes.

2137
01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:35,559
Speaker 1: Ar gives his best chance to win period.

2138
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Speaker 2: I'm not going there at all either. Why would you

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Speaker 2: think that he's eight and seven as a starter in

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01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:43,599
Speaker 2: the NFL. Obviously Daniel Jones doesn't have a better record

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01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:45,400
Speaker 2: than that. But Daniel Jones led a team to the

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01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:48,080
Speaker 2: playoffs before, and the year he did that, I believe

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01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:50,120
Speaker 2: ran for about seven hundred yards. And the thing about

2144
01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:52,559
Speaker 2: running is that every time that Anthony Rigson has done it,

2145
01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:54,720
Speaker 2: or most times in his career, I want to say

2146
01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:56,639
Speaker 2: most times, but the majority of his injuries have come

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01:40:56,640 --> 01:41:00,840
Speaker 2: from running and being hit after the run. So I

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01:41:00,840 --> 01:41:03,120
Speaker 2: cannot say he's a better runner. Yes, he's more dynamic,

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01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:06,320
Speaker 2: he can run fast in a straight line. In the combine,

2150
01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:08,800
Speaker 2: he looked like a freak. But in actual real life,

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01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:11,320
Speaker 2: I cannot tell you right now that Anthony Richardson is

2152
01:41:11,320 --> 01:41:13,679
Speaker 2: a better rusher or better runner than Daniel Jones because

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01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:16,120
Speaker 2: of the health factor. The health is the biggest thing,

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01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:18,240
Speaker 2: and I just can't bet on that right now. I

2155
01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:21,800
Speaker 2: mean a vacuum in bubble wrap and you know, yeah,

2156
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:24,360
Speaker 2: he's a better runner, but in reality, no, I cannot

2157
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:25,120
Speaker 2: give you that title.

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01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:29,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess to Jimmy's point, there's probably and I'll

2159
01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:32,160
Speaker 1: speak for myself. There's probably like two sides to the

2160
01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:38,360
Speaker 1: whole quarterback conversation of I'm gonna offer my own opinion,

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01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:40,080
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, my own opinion

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01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:42,280
Speaker 1: is for seven to ten am, five days a week,

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01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:44,599
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's Shane s Dygen's opinion.

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01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:48,000
Speaker 1: So I think the conversation today is, if you were

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01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:50,920
Speaker 1: going to make me pick a starting quarterback today, I

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01:41:50,920 --> 01:41:54,080
Speaker 1: would pick Richardson, I guess to answer the question, but

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01:41:55,080 --> 01:41:58,439
Speaker 1: that's not my call. It's obviously Shane Stikeen's call. So

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to put myself into stike shoes based off

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01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:05,679
Speaker 1: his comments on the record, off the record, based off

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Speaker 1: how the last couple of years have gone life with

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01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:12,840
Speaker 1: Richardson versus what life with Jones could be, and tried

2172
01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:15,080
Speaker 1: to look at it through that lens, because yeah, my

2173
01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:17,960
Speaker 1: lens can be my opinion. But again, and this probably

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01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:20,719
Speaker 1: goes for every sports conversation we have. Sure we offer

2175
01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:22,599
Speaker 1: our thoughts on it, but at the end of the day,

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01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 1: as you also have to look at it from the

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01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:30,280
Speaker 1: team side of it. And again, I think Shane stick

2178
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:32,639
Speaker 1: it's much more in the Daniel Jones both than most

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01:42:32,720 --> 01:42:35,719
Speaker 1: want to admit, so that would not be my thought,

2180
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:40,280
Speaker 1: but that's how I probably view it from a cold standpoint,

2181
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:42,240
Speaker 1: Like what was the poll we did mark like eighty

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01:42:42,240 --> 01:42:46,080
Speaker 1: five to fifteen percent want Anthony Richardson. There's no chance

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01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:49,600
Speaker 1: in hell? Shane Steigen thinks that. No, that overwhelming?

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01:42:49,840 --> 01:42:56,240
Speaker 4: Do you think much much closer, toteen.

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01:42:56,240 --> 01:42:58,400
Speaker 1: Shane Stigen is not living in a world where this

2186
01:42:58,520 --> 01:43:00,840
Speaker 1: is like, oh yeah, it'll be Anthony Richterin's keys, no

2187
01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:04,120
Speaker 1: questions asked, which is how what you know? Pretty much

2188
01:43:04,120 --> 01:43:05,479
Speaker 1: every fan is viewing it right.

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01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:07,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I will throw this out there to not

2190
01:43:07,760 --> 01:43:12,599
Speaker 2: completely pooh pooh Jimmy's point. My only knock on Anthony

2191
01:43:12,640 --> 01:43:14,760
Speaker 2: as a runner is the health factor. Yes, if he

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01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:16,800
Speaker 2: can stay healthy, I do believe he could be a

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01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:20,559
Speaker 2: more dynamic runner than Daniel Jones is just can you

2194
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:23,640
Speaker 2: hold up? And if he does? That does excite me

2195
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:27,800
Speaker 2: from a scheme standpoint to have Anthony Richson in that

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01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 2: backfield with Jonathan Taylor. You have Tyler Warren now who

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01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:32,960
Speaker 2: could be in the mix as well, and I think

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01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:35,880
Speaker 2: low red zone situations they will be dominant if they

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Speaker 2: get there, and I mean you got to get there

2200
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:41,320
Speaker 2: down the field, but in those you know, three yards

2201
01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:45,200
Speaker 2: in goal line situations, how do you not score with

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01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:48,400
Speaker 2: a quarterback who's dropped some weight? So I think Anthony

2203
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:50,400
Speaker 2: told us he's two forty now, but still two forty

2204
01:43:50,439 --> 01:43:53,439
Speaker 2: six to four. JT is still one of the best

2205
01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:56,040
Speaker 2: backs in the league. Tyler Warren's on some wildcat stuff

2206
01:43:56,080 --> 01:43:59,280
Speaker 2: in his career. He's a bruising runner as well. That

2207
01:43:59,439 --> 01:44:03,160
Speaker 2: is exciting. But that's the one biggest thing we can't

2208
01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:05,719
Speaker 2: predict out of all this quarterback talk is the health

2209
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:10,160
Speaker 2: factor and how does that skew or sway this quarterback competition,

2210
01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:13,280
Speaker 2: because honestly, that could be the determining factor, you know

2211
01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:15,560
Speaker 2: about week one or week two if one of the

2212
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:16,840
Speaker 2: one of the other kids banged up.

2213
01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:20,519
Speaker 1: Shout out right here, we've got a lot of good

2214
01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:22,759
Speaker 1: kids going back to school today. This is from listener

2215
01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:24,719
Speaker 1: Matt and can give a shout out to Colton. He's

2216
01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:28,760
Speaker 1: at his first day of school, starting kindergarten. I know

2217
01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:33,759
Speaker 1: ips going give him a hell Calton today. So Max

2218
01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:38,240
Speaker 1: Bowen heading back mercifully thankfully. So Yes, happy first day school.

2219
01:44:38,280 --> 01:44:42,000
Speaker 1: Too many out there. We appreciate you guys making us

2220
01:44:42,040 --> 01:44:43,919
Speaker 1: a part of your morning. Community.

2221
01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:45,560
Speaker 2: So it's full, full week of school right out of

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01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:45,880
Speaker 2: the gate.

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01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:47,120
Speaker 1: Full week.

2224
01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:51,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, as a parent, do you just like a fist

2225
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:51,920
Speaker 2: pump when you drop him off?

2226
01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:55,320
Speaker 1: Well, it's like the last day of school. Every teacher

2227
01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:58,720
Speaker 1: you can find at a happy hour locally, and like

2228
01:44:58,840 --> 01:45:01,400
Speaker 1: today or last week, you can find every stay at

2229
01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:03,640
Speaker 1: home mom or dad at a happy hour. Right, Is

2230
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:04,240
Speaker 1: that how it goes?

2231
01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:05,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2232
01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:07,240
Speaker 4: Getting the sleep schedule back on track though after summer

2233
01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:09,800
Speaker 4: vacation that I still have figured out.

2234
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:12,479
Speaker 1: No, yeah, you guys have heard me, I said. And

2235
01:45:12,520 --> 01:45:15,040
Speaker 1: this is no political statement, but daylight savings time. As

2236
01:45:15,080 --> 01:45:17,200
Speaker 1: a young parent, I know where I'm voting every time.

2237
01:45:17,240 --> 01:45:22,200
Speaker 1: Whatever makes it darker earlier, that's all I'm saying. Let's

2238
01:45:22,360 --> 01:45:26,439
Speaker 1: check it out, James's actually start a little fever and

2239
01:45:26,479 --> 01:45:28,800
Speaker 1: then we'll go back to the Colts. And the fever

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01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:31,880
Speaker 1: right now is hot and alive and well. One of

2241
01:45:31,880 --> 01:45:34,519
Speaker 1: the best teams right now in the WNBA. Five straight.

2242
01:45:34,720 --> 01:45:37,240
Speaker 1: They are five games above five hundred, first time I

2243
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:41,879
Speaker 1: think since their final run. Yeah in twenty fifteen or sixteen,

2244
01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:43,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. Those years run together a little bit,

2245
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:46,879
Speaker 1: but they played great basketball without Caitlin Clark, and yesterday

2246
01:45:47,120 --> 01:45:49,720
Speaker 1: again balanced, you pointed out earlier in the show. This

2247
01:45:49,760 --> 01:45:52,200
Speaker 1: is not Kelsey Mitchell just going off. This has been

2248
01:45:52,240 --> 01:45:54,680
Speaker 1: great balance and really winning with their defense, and that

2249
01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:56,720
Speaker 1: was definitely the case yesterday because they didn't shoot it

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01:45:56,720 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 1: well and they turned it over a ton.

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01:45:58,520 --> 01:46:01,759
Speaker 2: Yes, I believe again, long winning streak since twenty fifteen.

2252
01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:04,600
Speaker 2: Twenty sixteen was actually when they won their championship, I

2253
01:46:04,640 --> 01:46:06,400
Speaker 2: believe or actually no, it was a twenty twelve. I'm

2254
01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:08,640
Speaker 2: sorry for this team. Twenty sixteen was the last year

2255
01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:11,080
Speaker 2: the Timika catches with the team, So Zach.

2256
01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:12,439
Speaker 1: Have they had a finals run in there, right, didn't

2257
01:46:12,439 --> 01:46:13,760
Speaker 1: They lose in the finals one of those years.

2258
01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:16,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, But to have this amount of success, you know,

2259
01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:19,559
Speaker 2: for the first time since basically Tamika with Gaitlan Clark

2260
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:22,800
Speaker 2: out of the lineup, speaks to the overall performance of

2261
01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:24,720
Speaker 2: the team. And shout to Leah Boston stepped up in

2262
01:46:24,720 --> 01:46:25,799
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter again.

2263
01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:29,040
Speaker 1: That is six straight double doubles for her. That is

2264
01:46:29,080 --> 01:46:32,160
Speaker 1: a franchise mark. Again, we've talked a lot about the

2265
01:46:32,200 --> 01:46:35,600
Speaker 1: Colts today. They're off to Baltimore joint practice tomorrow, preseason

2266
01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:37,599
Speaker 1: opener Thursday at seven.

2267
01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:40,479
Speaker 2: We have a correction here from Eddie Garrison. The Fever

2268
01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:42,320
Speaker 2: actually had a five game winning streak last year. This

2269
01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:44,839
Speaker 2: is the first time they've been five games above five hundred.

2270
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:47,320
Speaker 2: I'm sorry since twenty fifteen. Continue.

2271
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:51,160
Speaker 1: Thank you to Eddie for that, and you'll hear him

2272
01:46:51,160 --> 01:46:54,360
Speaker 1: tomorrow nine to forty five ten o'clock. Tip La, Sparks

2273
01:46:54,360 --> 01:46:57,360
Speaker 1: and Fever. Eddie, you'll have your pregame coverage right here

2274
01:46:57,560 --> 01:47:00,720
Speaker 1: on the fan again. Yesterday Colts practice. It was a

2275
01:47:00,760 --> 01:47:03,200
Speaker 1: good bounce back day for the quarterbacks to a Lots

2276
01:47:03,400 --> 01:47:06,639
Speaker 1: also had an impressive day as a rusher. But unfortunately

2277
01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 1: yesterday's practice will probably be most remembered for the end

2278
01:47:10,280 --> 01:47:13,519
Speaker 1: of practice, and that was when Savon Ahmed was taken

2279
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:15,760
Speaker 1: down on what looked to be, you know, kind of

2280
01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:18,960
Speaker 1: the unfortunate poster child of a hip drop tackle by

2281
01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:24,879
Speaker 1: undrafted safety Tray Washington. Really ugly injury seen, and honestly,

2282
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:27,400
Speaker 1: it was probably one of the more subdued and somber

2283
01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:31,879
Speaker 1: Shane Stike in press conferences that he has had after practice.

2284
01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:33,920
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and play that opening statement, Mark, This

2285
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:36,360
Speaker 1: was Shane Stike in yesterday in practice.

2286
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:41,439
Speaker 8: Off Savonne thoughts and prayers with him right now. Obviously,

2287
01:47:41,800 --> 01:47:45,200
Speaker 8: got a severe leg injury in practice. You never want

2288
01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:48,400
Speaker 8: to see that happen. I know, we don't. We don't

2289
01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:53,200
Speaker 8: encourage hip drop tackles. I know Tray's you know, down

2290
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:54,639
Speaker 8: in the dumps, you know, and I don't think he's

2291
01:47:54,640 --> 01:47:56,200
Speaker 8: trying to do that. You know, We're just trying to,

2292
01:47:56,240 --> 01:47:57,640
Speaker 8: you know, create an edge, is what I'm trying to

2293
01:47:57,640 --> 01:48:00,439
Speaker 8: get done, especially in the developmental those guys are gonna

2294
01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:04,519
Speaker 8: have to tackle, you know, come preseason. So my thoughts

2295
01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:07,400
Speaker 8: and prayers with Savon and hopefully he has a speed recovery.

2296
01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:10,439
Speaker 1: So again, it was a live tackling period, is what

2297
01:48:10,479 --> 01:48:13,120
Speaker 1: Shane was mentioning there. And you do see this with

2298
01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:16,320
Speaker 1: the third team guys. I don't know, let's call it

2299
01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:17,960
Speaker 1: maybe a handful of times we've seen it through the

2300
01:48:18,040 --> 01:48:21,240
Speaker 1: nine practices. But nonetheless, this was a play where Achmed

2301
01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:22,960
Speaker 1: was in the open field, here's about a score, and

2302
01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:27,160
Speaker 1: Trey Washington just didn't get off him in time, and

2303
01:48:27,200 --> 01:48:31,240
Speaker 1: that's what led to really just a jarring scene. Field

2304
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:34,720
Speaker 1: went immediately silent, and unfortunately the only thing he could

2305
01:48:34,720 --> 01:48:39,000
Speaker 1: hear really was Achmed's screaming pain. Eventually, air cast had

2306
01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:40,920
Speaker 1: stretchered off and it looked like an ambulance was coming

2307
01:48:40,920 --> 01:48:44,479
Speaker 1: to Grand Park to take him for further evaluation there.

2308
01:48:45,080 --> 01:48:47,960
Speaker 1: This obviously does not matter in the grand scheme of

2309
01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:49,639
Speaker 1: it for him as a player, But we are getting

2310
01:48:49,680 --> 01:48:52,000
Speaker 1: some questions from some people, James. A lot of people

2311
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:53,559
Speaker 1: have asked, Okay, could you give a little bit more

2312
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:55,680
Speaker 1: background on these two, like you know where they kind

2313
01:48:55,720 --> 01:48:58,679
Speaker 1: of at in the packing Oregon Washington undrafted free agent

2314
01:48:58,720 --> 01:49:01,880
Speaker 1: from Old Miss. I don't think he is a guy

2315
01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:03,280
Speaker 1: in line to make the team.

2316
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:07,120
Speaker 2: Not based off of that. Beyond that play, I would

2317
01:49:07,120 --> 01:49:07,799
Speaker 2: say I've.

2318
01:49:07,640 --> 01:49:10,800
Speaker 1: Noticed about a little bit more. I don't think again

2319
01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:12,519
Speaker 1: he was maybe in line to earn a fifty three

2320
01:49:12,520 --> 01:49:14,160
Speaker 1: matter roster spot, but he actually was on the practice

2321
01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:17,519
Speaker 1: squad yeah, for this team last year. And you know,

2322
01:49:17,720 --> 01:49:20,639
Speaker 1: with running backs, what you really hate is any injury

2323
01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:23,360
Speaker 1: at age twenty six, twenty seven, Yeah, you start to

2324
01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:27,200
Speaker 1: think about how much longer will you be able to play, period,

2325
01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:30,360
Speaker 1: which I just think is the unfortunate nature of that position.

2326
01:49:30,720 --> 01:49:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially considering that Savon Ahmed had been sort of

2327
01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:39,000
Speaker 2: an NFL journeyman and kind of like a fringe NFL player.

2328
01:49:39,560 --> 01:49:41,600
Speaker 2: And that's not to discredit his career is just the

2329
01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:44,400
Speaker 2: reality of how hard it is to survive sometimes in

2330
01:49:44,479 --> 01:49:46,240
Speaker 2: the NFL. And that's what he was doing or had

2331
01:49:46,320 --> 01:49:49,120
Speaker 2: been doing. And you just wonder what the severe lower

2332
01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:52,280
Speaker 2: ride leg injuries something like that. Could that be the

2333
01:49:52,360 --> 01:49:54,720
Speaker 2: last time you're in on the NFL field because you

2334
01:49:54,720 --> 01:49:56,519
Speaker 2: have to work, you knows hardy get back and get

2335
01:49:56,520 --> 01:49:59,240
Speaker 2: an opportunity. And we do know that this league, when

2336
01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:01,439
Speaker 2: it comes to the running back position in particular, it

2337
01:50:01,560 --> 01:50:03,559
Speaker 2: chews you up to pitch you out most times. And

2338
01:50:03,640 --> 01:50:06,960
Speaker 2: so unfortunate situation for him, But I'm hoping he has

2339
01:50:07,080 --> 01:50:09,400
Speaker 2: and I assume he has a very you know, great

2340
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:11,360
Speaker 2: support system to help him get through a tough time.

2341
01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:15,040
Speaker 1: Colts off to Baltimore Agan today. That joint practice schedule

2342
01:50:15,080 --> 01:50:18,360
Speaker 1: for one o'clock tomorrow. Last thing I'll throw in there.

2343
01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:22,160
Speaker 1: Shout out to the legend that is Cole Hawker. We

2344
01:50:22,240 --> 01:50:24,599
Speaker 1: watched him a couple of years ago at the Paris

2345
01:50:24,720 --> 01:50:28,760
Speaker 1: Olympics have the close of a lifetime and winning gold there.

2346
01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:31,240
Speaker 1: Yesterday he did it again this time in the five

2347
01:50:31,320 --> 01:50:36,479
Speaker 1: thousand meters of the US Championships. There. You can't let

2348
01:50:36,479 --> 01:50:38,240
Speaker 1: Cole Hawker get inside position. I don't know if you

2349
01:50:38,240 --> 01:50:40,200
Speaker 1: guys saw the highlight of this. Shout out to Larra Overton,

2350
01:50:40,280 --> 01:50:43,880
Speaker 1: chews all over it. Of course, her track passion and

2351
01:50:43,960 --> 01:50:46,719
Speaker 1: cross country passion second to none here. But Cole Hawker

2352
01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:50,280
Speaker 1: got the inside lane. You do that, it's over.

2353
01:50:52,479 --> 01:50:53,080
Speaker 2: He can run.

2354
01:50:53,160 --> 01:50:54,280
Speaker 1: I've got to beat you to the tape.

2355
01:50:54,400 --> 01:50:57,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, special, you know athlete and I do you know

2356
01:50:58,080 --> 01:51:00,519
Speaker 2: enjoy giving the runners some love? It is, that's easy.

2357
01:51:00,560 --> 01:51:02,760
Speaker 2: What they do. That is some pain that they put

2358
01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:04,880
Speaker 2: themselves through to have some success.

2359
01:51:04,840 --> 01:51:06,479
Speaker 1: Some pain and some gain. It's been a lot of

2360
01:51:06,520 --> 01:51:09,439
Speaker 1: gain here in the last week for eighty Mitchell. We'll

2361
01:51:10,040 --> 01:51:12,640
Speaker 1: get a little recap on where he's at here in

2362
01:51:12,720 --> 01:51:15,840
Speaker 1: his second NFL training camp, and certainly he's one that

2363
01:51:16,080 --> 01:51:19,400
Speaker 1: will not mince words and describing his own play. We'll

2364
01:51:19,400 --> 01:51:21,800
Speaker 1: play that for you. On the other side, Kevin Bowen

2365
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:25,559
Speaker 1: James Boyd to Mark Diyton here on a Monday, Mark,

2366
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:29,360
Speaker 1: I'm seeing this here from Fitch. He was asking why

2367
01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:32,559
Speaker 1: no update from Summer Slam. You know we did touch

2368
01:51:32,600 --> 01:51:34,479
Speaker 1: on this earlier in the show. I definitely did not

2369
01:51:34,640 --> 01:51:37,400
Speaker 1: ignore that, but I guess the most recent update we're

2370
01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:39,000
Speaker 1: a little bit up against it. But yes, could you

2371
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:43,320
Speaker 1: fill our audience in Tyrese Haliburton loses his crutch last

2372
01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:48,760
Speaker 1: night at Summer Slam and Cody Rhoades got the last laugh.

2373
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:51,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's front and center for Night two of SummerSlam

2374
01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:54,600
Speaker 4: at MetLife Stadium. Got a nice ovation, some booze, but

2375
01:51:55,080 --> 01:51:58,400
Speaker 4: nice ovation from the New York slash New Jersey crowd

2376
01:51:58,479 --> 01:52:01,879
Speaker 4: and everything. But the main event was Cody Rhods against

2377
01:52:02,200 --> 01:52:04,800
Speaker 4: John Cena for the undisputed championship and it was a

2378
01:52:04,840 --> 01:52:08,360
Speaker 4: street fight, so no rules. And at some point John

2379
01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:11,240
Speaker 4: Cena walks over to the crowd by Tyrese Haliburton grabs

2380
01:52:11,240 --> 01:52:13,559
Speaker 4: one of his crutches and lays it into the back

2381
01:52:13,600 --> 01:52:17,960
Speaker 4: of Cody Rhods smashes it in half. Basically, So if

2382
01:52:17,960 --> 01:52:20,720
Speaker 4: that was a legit crutch for Tyres Halberton, I'm sure

2383
01:52:20,720 --> 01:52:22,280
Speaker 4: he's kind of like, I need to get a replacement

2384
01:52:22,320 --> 01:52:24,160
Speaker 4: here before I get out of town.

2385
01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:27,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not on the single crutch rehab, no just

2386
01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:30,720
Speaker 1: yet there. Well, he's had quite the month and a

2387
01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:31,400
Speaker 1: half here.

2388
01:52:32,080 --> 01:52:34,800
Speaker 2: Live it up, brother. Yeah, it was pretty cool to see.

2389
01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:35,679
Speaker 2: It was a nice surprise.

2390
01:52:35,720 --> 01:52:37,160
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh yeah, I mean, you know, he's a

2391
01:52:37,160 --> 01:52:39,040
Speaker 4: big wrestling fan and I was like, oh okay, he

2392
01:52:39,040 --> 01:52:41,559
Speaker 4: got on the plane and went out to matt Life Stadium.

2393
01:52:41,600 --> 01:52:42,200
Speaker 2: That's pretty cool.

2394
01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:45,120
Speaker 1: Quiet time for the NBA right now with Tyress Halliburn

2395
01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:50,200
Speaker 1: out there in the Giants Jets area. Last night, I

2396
01:52:50,240 --> 01:52:52,479
Speaker 1: want to play this Ady Mitchell clip James Wood. I

2397
01:52:52,520 --> 01:52:54,160
Speaker 1: think a total one to eighty from week one to

2398
01:52:54,200 --> 01:52:58,360
Speaker 1: week two with Adi Mitchell of camp. Yes, can't a

2399
01:52:58,400 --> 01:53:00,439
Speaker 1: lot of drops and they've come on. Was in the

2400
01:53:00,479 --> 01:53:03,559
Speaker 1: air much, but yes we're in the upside down, so yes,

2401
01:53:03,640 --> 01:53:06,000
Speaker 1: I know it sounded like a Stranger Things episode there

2402
01:53:06,400 --> 01:53:10,360
Speaker 1: from Adie Mitchell, but never wanted to shy away from confidence.

2403
01:53:10,400 --> 01:53:12,720
Speaker 1: Here was Adie Mitchell over the weekend.

2404
01:53:12,600 --> 01:53:15,479
Speaker 9: You know, relaxed, spent a lot of time with the film,

2405
01:53:16,320 --> 01:53:20,120
Speaker 9: spent a lot of time with my daughter, and then

2406
01:53:20,200 --> 01:53:23,080
Speaker 9: kind of once it came down to work, I mean,

2407
01:53:23,080 --> 01:53:29,519
Speaker 9: I knew I belonged, like I knew, I knew if

2408
01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:32,000
Speaker 9: somebody leave me one on one on an island like

2409
01:53:32,080 --> 01:53:35,439
Speaker 9: they somebody gonna regret it and it ain't gonna be me.

2410
01:53:35,880 --> 01:53:41,120
Speaker 9: So kind of just just refining my game, knowing where

2411
01:53:41,160 --> 01:53:44,200
Speaker 9: to be. I feel like the main thing was probably

2412
01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:48,479
Speaker 9: build a chemistry with quarterbacks, you know, I feel like

2413
01:53:48,479 --> 01:53:53,920
Speaker 9: I run routes a little differently, changing tempos, changing speeds

2414
01:53:53,960 --> 01:53:59,360
Speaker 9: a lot. So probably getting getting right with the quarterbacks

2415
01:53:59,840 --> 01:54:02,280
Speaker 9: was probably the biggest thing. To go back a couple

2416
01:54:02,280 --> 01:54:03,080
Speaker 9: of questions.

2417
01:54:04,520 --> 01:54:06,200
Speaker 1: So, yeah, but.

2418
01:54:06,200 --> 01:54:08,000
Speaker 2: I knew, I definitely knew I belonged.

2419
01:54:09,320 --> 01:54:12,559
Speaker 1: I was amazed, borderline mesmerized how quickly he went from yeah,

2420
01:54:12,560 --> 01:54:15,720
Speaker 1: I was just relaxing with the family to if you're

2421
01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:18,360
Speaker 1: gonna leave me one on one with somebody you're amachi,

2422
01:54:18,479 --> 01:54:20,160
Speaker 1: You're gonna regret it, and it ain't gonna be me.

2423
01:54:20,320 --> 01:54:21,240
Speaker 1: That was a great line.

2424
01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:23,519
Speaker 2: Oh, I loved it. He had a couple of great

2425
01:54:23,560 --> 01:54:26,240
Speaker 2: one liners. He had the was something in the air,

2426
01:54:27,200 --> 01:54:29,479
Speaker 2: and then he also was saying, you know, I wasn't

2427
01:54:29,520 --> 01:54:32,160
Speaker 2: too worried about it, because my hand's worth my hands work.

2428
01:54:33,760 --> 01:54:36,640
Speaker 2: I could still get open. I'm like, who he talking

2429
01:54:36,680 --> 01:54:38,560
Speaker 2: heavy right now? You're talking that talk. You got to

2430
01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:40,400
Speaker 2: bag it up on Sundays.

2431
01:54:40,320 --> 01:54:42,480
Speaker 1: You know, when he took getting right at the quarterbacks, like, honestly,

2432
01:54:42,520 --> 01:54:45,360
Speaker 1: he's a guy, Thursday night I'm gonna look forward to

2433
01:54:45,480 --> 01:54:50,160
Speaker 1: because yes, you know, last week when he started to

2434
01:54:50,280 --> 01:54:52,840
Speaker 1: make a better impression, it was still one on ones.

2435
01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:56,520
Speaker 1: It was still seven on seven and then Thursday night

2436
01:54:56,560 --> 01:54:58,160
Speaker 1: at that night practice for those that are out there,

2437
01:54:58,200 --> 01:55:00,200
Speaker 1: he was great. That was probably his best practice and

2438
01:55:00,240 --> 01:55:03,960
Speaker 1: an eleven on eleven setting like in the team stuff

2439
01:55:04,360 --> 01:55:08,000
Speaker 1: when chaos is around, you can you get right with

2440
01:55:08,040 --> 01:55:10,600
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks to use his phrase there, And so I

2441
01:55:10,640 --> 01:55:13,480
Speaker 1: think the team moments for because again, unlike some other

2442
01:55:13,520 --> 01:55:16,680
Speaker 1: positions in the team, there's not really open playing time

2443
01:55:16,720 --> 01:55:19,120
Speaker 1: at wide receiver, right. Yes, you do rotate a good

2444
01:55:19,160 --> 01:55:21,440
Speaker 1: amount there, but like your top three or your top

2445
01:55:21,480 --> 01:55:25,040
Speaker 1: three Michael Pittman junior, Alec Pierson, Josh Downs, So he's

2446
01:55:25,040 --> 01:55:29,240
Speaker 1: got to earn that from the quarterbacks, and you know

2447
01:55:29,320 --> 01:55:31,720
Speaker 1: him and Daniel Jones, that relationship of time has looked

2448
01:55:31,720 --> 01:55:34,320
Speaker 1: like a seventh grade So a relationship where you're dating

2449
01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:36,560
Speaker 1: a third period and then by six period you're not

2450
01:55:36,640 --> 01:55:38,280
Speaker 1: dating anymore, and then you ride the bus home and

2451
01:55:38,280 --> 01:55:40,600
Speaker 1: now you're dating again. Like that's a little bit how

2452
01:55:41,520 --> 01:55:44,080
Speaker 1: that back and forth has been between those two. So

2453
01:55:44,640 --> 01:55:46,680
Speaker 1: I assume he will be in the category James Boyd

2454
01:55:46,720 --> 01:55:49,080
Speaker 1: of a good amount of playing time no matter who

2455
01:55:49,080 --> 01:55:51,440
Speaker 1: the quarterback is coming up on Thursday night.

2456
01:55:52,320 --> 01:55:55,480
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and this is the chance to again show what

2457
01:55:55,560 --> 01:55:58,200
Speaker 2: you can do in a real football setting, because that's

2458
01:55:58,760 --> 01:56:00,960
Speaker 2: the piece has been missing for eighty mon. You know,

2459
01:56:01,440 --> 01:56:04,880
Speaker 2: people question his physicality, question is toughness of going across

2460
01:56:04,920 --> 01:56:07,440
Speaker 2: the middle. Here's a chance to prove.

2461
01:56:07,480 --> 01:56:11,760
Speaker 1: I just question his reliability in finishing plays, but I

2462
01:56:11,840 --> 01:56:13,920
Speaker 1: think a lot of that finishing has to with physicality. Sure,

2463
01:56:14,160 --> 01:56:16,720
Speaker 1: when we've seen him not catch the ball is because

2464
01:56:16,760 --> 01:56:18,520
Speaker 1: we know you're probably gonna get hit afterwards.

2465
01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:22,000
Speaker 2: Can you prove that part of it? Because the talent

2466
01:56:22,080 --> 01:56:24,720
Speaker 2: is there, I've said this, and I'm not some genius,

2467
01:56:25,880 --> 01:56:28,360
Speaker 2: we all, I think, would agree that he probably has

2468
01:56:28,400 --> 01:56:32,800
Speaker 2: the most physical talent in that wide receiver room when

2469
01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:37,000
Speaker 2: it comes to long speed, the ability to separate, stop,

2470
01:56:37,080 --> 01:56:40,640
Speaker 2: start hands, all those things. I mean when he's balling

2471
01:56:40,800 --> 01:56:43,480
Speaker 2: like he has been as of laid through our training camp,

2472
01:56:43,920 --> 01:56:47,560
Speaker 2: he looks like a dude out there. But again, I

2473
01:56:47,640 --> 01:56:51,040
Speaker 2: preface all of that by saying, we haven't seen it

2474
01:56:51,160 --> 01:56:52,960
Speaker 2: enough in real games. And I get that he's going

2475
01:56:53,000 --> 01:56:54,600
Speaker 2: into a second year, so I'll give him some grace.

2476
01:56:54,920 --> 01:56:58,120
Speaker 2: You know, Rocky start certainly last year, but what does

2477
01:56:58,120 --> 01:57:00,440
Speaker 2: it look like come Thursday night and beyond just that

2478
01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:01,360
Speaker 2: preseason opener?

2479
01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:04,160
Speaker 1: So what games does gen con.

2480
01:57:05,720 --> 01:57:09,040
Speaker 2: Oversee, no idea, but I did see that they were here.

2481
01:57:09,080 --> 01:57:09,720
Speaker 2: I believe, right?

2482
01:57:09,880 --> 01:57:13,920
Speaker 1: Is it all types of video games? That hard games to.

2483
01:57:13,960 --> 01:57:16,040
Speaker 2: That board games, card games, all that stuff. Yeah, I

2484
01:57:16,120 --> 01:57:16,480
Speaker 2: was leaving.

2485
01:57:16,520 --> 01:57:19,040
Speaker 4: I did ist on Friday night, and even at like

2486
01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:20,880
Speaker 4: twelve thirty. By the time I got out of here,

2487
01:57:21,000 --> 01:57:23,680
Speaker 4: I mean, the convention center is still crawling with people.

2488
01:57:23,680 --> 01:57:25,240
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my god, does that thing go twenty

2489
01:57:25,240 --> 01:57:27,440
Speaker 4: four to seven? Or they doing like board games all night?

2490
01:57:27,440 --> 01:57:29,320
Speaker 1: And I don't build d Friday and it looked like

2491
01:57:29,400 --> 01:57:30,839
Speaker 1: Halloween driving up Illinois.

2492
01:57:30,960 --> 01:57:34,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's always something going on downtown, whether it's the

2493
01:57:34,400 --> 01:57:37,360
Speaker 4: WNB All Star Game, gen Con, pop Con.

2494
01:57:37,520 --> 01:57:39,800
Speaker 1: In terms of one of the bigger conventions we have here,

2495
01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:42,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, now they're out in that include Mario?

2496
01:57:43,560 --> 01:57:45,040
Speaker 2: You want to do your Mario impression again?

2497
01:57:46,560 --> 01:57:49,880
Speaker 1: I think I'm better as Luigi. Okay, but does that

2498
01:57:49,920 --> 01:57:53,800
Speaker 1: include Mario? I would assume I don't offend anybody here, Okay, Mark.

2499
01:57:53,680 --> 01:57:57,040
Speaker 4: Star Wars, all that stuff, magic, the gathering, dungeons and dragons.

2500
01:57:57,600 --> 01:57:59,760
Speaker 1: Maddie just sent me. You know, do you do this?

2501
01:58:00,160 --> 01:58:03,680
Speaker 1: You take the day one of school picture with the kids, oh.

2502
01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:05,880
Speaker 2: With the chalkboard. Yeah, yeah, we've done that.

2503
01:58:05,880 --> 01:58:09,160
Speaker 1: And so for Max Bowen, it says, who do you

2504
01:58:09,200 --> 01:58:11,240
Speaker 1: want to be when you grow up? Is a question?

2505
01:58:11,400 --> 01:58:15,280
Speaker 1: He has answered that question with a Mario character. Three

2506
01:58:15,320 --> 01:58:18,240
Speaker 1: one seven two three nine, ten seventy. If you can

2507
01:58:18,320 --> 01:58:21,000
Speaker 1: name the Mario character of the Max Bowen wants to

2508
01:58:21,040 --> 01:58:25,040
Speaker 1: be when he grows up, then you get two tickets

2509
01:58:25,080 --> 01:58:29,080
Speaker 1: to live golf. We'll do that, and I actually think

2510
01:58:29,160 --> 01:58:32,920
Speaker 1: John Rahm would be a good comp for this character. Okay,

2511
01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:36,320
Speaker 1: you can kind of go down that path. Ground passes

2512
01:58:36,360 --> 01:58:38,560
Speaker 1: correct mark and this is all three days ground.

2513
01:58:38,840 --> 01:58:40,400
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's all three I think I

2514
01:58:40,400 --> 01:58:42,800
Speaker 4: should probably look. I don't know if it's all three days.

2515
01:58:42,800 --> 01:58:46,200
Speaker 1: Pair of tickets live golf a week from Friday up

2516
01:58:46,200 --> 01:58:49,840
Speaker 1: there at Chatham Hills in Westfield. Three one seven two

2517
01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:52,920
Speaker 1: three nine, ten seventy. If you can name who Max

2518
01:58:52,960 --> 01:58:55,640
Speaker 1: Bowen wants to be when he grows up the Mario character,

2519
01:58:56,280 --> 01:58:58,200
Speaker 1: you're head into Westfield. We'll be a one final time

2520
01:58:58,240 --> 01:59:03,120
Speaker 1: here fan more than show. Shout out to listener Brad,

2521
01:59:04,680 --> 01:59:09,640
Speaker 1: he had Max Bowen pegged his bowser what he wants

2522
01:59:09,680 --> 01:59:13,200
Speaker 1: to be when he grows up? Solid choice, live golf

2523
01:59:13,240 --> 01:59:15,440
Speaker 1: tickets coming your way. You said Toad was the first

2524
01:59:15,480 --> 01:59:18,760
Speaker 1: guess Mark that was the first one great Mario Kart

2525
01:59:18,840 --> 01:59:19,560
Speaker 1: player Toad.

2526
01:59:19,800 --> 01:59:21,200
Speaker 2: Oh there's no one better.

2527
01:59:21,840 --> 01:59:25,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, Bowser, you think that's a good John Rahm comparison.

2528
01:59:25,080 --> 01:59:27,360
Speaker 2: I'd say so, yeah, I could see it.

2529
01:59:28,080 --> 01:59:30,120
Speaker 1: And then who's the softest Mario character? We used that

2530
01:59:30,200 --> 01:59:30,680
Speaker 1: for Bryson?

2531
01:59:32,800 --> 01:59:33,400
Speaker 2: Who is that?

2532
01:59:34,520 --> 01:59:34,640
Speaker 3: Well?

2533
01:59:34,720 --> 01:59:39,040
Speaker 1: Evan Cheryl said Warrior, which I loved Warrio Warreo Stadium

2534
01:59:39,120 --> 01:59:40,760
Speaker 1: was always a grind. You want to talk about a

2535
01:59:40,800 --> 01:59:43,000
Speaker 1: four lap battle where you really got to be locked

2536
01:59:43,040 --> 01:59:43,440
Speaker 1: in there?

2537
01:59:43,680 --> 01:59:44,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2538
01:59:44,360 --> 01:59:47,520
Speaker 1: That in Rainbow Road, Oh, Rainbow Road, just my you

2539
01:59:47,560 --> 01:59:53,560
Speaker 1: know what, Toad Beach some dark memories there major PTSD, Yeah,

2540
01:59:53,760 --> 01:59:56,000
Speaker 1: Toad's Turnpike. I felt like I had some bad memories.

2541
01:59:56,040 --> 01:59:58,520
Speaker 1: That's why my disgruntled Toad. I will give away a

2542
01:59:58,560 --> 02:00:02,480
Speaker 1: pair of tickets to live golf here coming up all

2543
02:00:02,880 --> 02:00:06,160
Speaker 1: this week. Jeff should be back tomorrow. James Boyd BWI

2544
02:00:06,280 --> 02:00:11,520
Speaker 1: Airport calling your name. Any plans around your trip to Baltimore.

2545
02:00:11,560 --> 02:00:13,560
Speaker 1: I feel like you'll you'll be there a while with

2546
02:00:13,640 --> 02:00:17,600
Speaker 1: really only what one to three tomorrow is your big

2547
02:00:17,800 --> 02:00:18,680
Speaker 1: viewing practice.

2548
02:00:19,200 --> 02:00:22,000
Speaker 2: Yes, I will actually be back Thursday. I will not

2549
02:00:22,080 --> 02:00:24,280
Speaker 2: stay for the game. So yeah, I'll be out there

2550
02:00:24,760 --> 02:00:28,680
Speaker 2: later today tomorrow and then coming back Wednesday morning. But

2551
02:00:29,560 --> 02:00:31,600
Speaker 2: the plan for me whenever I go to Baltimore, beyond

2552
02:00:31,760 --> 02:00:33,960
Speaker 2: doing my actual job, is to find some good seafood,

2553
02:00:34,080 --> 02:00:36,280
Speaker 2: So that will be on the agenda later today.

2554
02:00:36,560 --> 02:00:38,240
Speaker 1: My wife used to travel a lot to like the

2555
02:00:38,240 --> 02:00:40,240
Speaker 1: mid Atlantic area for work, and I feel like that

2556
02:00:40,320 --> 02:00:42,640
Speaker 1: was kind of always the appeal to it. I don't

2557
02:00:42,680 --> 02:00:46,520
Speaker 1: think there was a ton of go to whatever spots

2558
02:00:46,600 --> 02:00:50,320
Speaker 1: or sight see necessarily in Baltimore, but nonetheless that's where

2559
02:00:50,360 --> 02:00:53,840
Speaker 1: he'll be. I think it's a great test for the Colts. Frankly,

2560
02:00:53,840 --> 02:00:55,520
Speaker 1: I think Baltimore is one of more complete teams in

2561
02:00:55,560 --> 02:00:55,960
Speaker 1: the league.

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02:00:56,440 --> 02:00:58,920
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I mean, their expectation is over in Baltimore right

2563
02:00:58,920 --> 02:01:01,040
Speaker 2: now is to go win Super Bowl. And obviously they

2564
02:01:01,040 --> 02:01:04,080
Speaker 2: have the two time League MVP, three time first team

2565
02:01:04,080 --> 02:01:06,240
Speaker 2: All Pro, and Lamar Jackson a future Hall of Fame

2566
02:01:06,960 --> 02:01:10,080
Speaker 2: I think, And so in their defense as far as

2567
02:01:10,080 --> 02:01:13,400
Speaker 2: the quarterback play goes for the Colts, is that defense

2568
02:01:13,560 --> 02:01:15,240
Speaker 2: for the Ravens is going to test them for sure.

2569
02:01:15,360 --> 02:01:18,600
Speaker 2: They have some All Pros and very talented players on

2570
02:01:18,760 --> 02:01:21,200
Speaker 2: that back end. I think that that can challenge this

2571
02:01:21,320 --> 02:01:25,880
Speaker 2: group just added JayR Alexander from Green Bay to that secondary,

2572
02:01:26,040 --> 02:01:28,160
Speaker 2: so they have some dudes that can make plays. And

2573
02:01:28,200 --> 02:01:29,480
Speaker 2: I don't think this is going to be an easy

2574
02:01:29,520 --> 02:01:32,280
Speaker 2: practice by any means for the Colts. So I will

2575
02:01:32,320 --> 02:01:34,960
Speaker 2: have all that more for you at the athletic. But

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02:01:35,000 --> 02:01:37,640
Speaker 2: also don't forget that fantastic running back they have and

2577
02:01:38,760 --> 02:01:41,120
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry. Yeah, yeah, they have a fantastic running back.

2578
02:01:41,120 --> 02:01:45,520
Speaker 2: And Derek left on the got a lot of trail

2579
02:01:45,600 --> 02:01:48,839
Speaker 2: left on the tires, and he does, he does. Honestly,

2580
02:01:48,840 --> 02:01:50,400
Speaker 2: he might be like the last of a dying bree

2581
02:01:50,440 --> 02:01:53,080
Speaker 2: when it comes to the all time great running backs.

2582
02:01:53,160 --> 02:01:55,560
Speaker 2: You know, he might be the last running back to

2583
02:01:55,600 --> 02:01:58,000
Speaker 2: crack ten thousand rushing yards in their career because they

2584
02:01:58,040 --> 02:02:00,600
Speaker 2: just don't really last that long in the NFL anymore.

2585
02:02:00,640 --> 02:02:03,040
Speaker 2: But I'll have that all that more than the athletic

2586
02:02:03,120 --> 02:02:04,920
Speaker 2: and also I'll be calling into the show to give

2587
02:02:04,920 --> 02:02:06,240
Speaker 2: you all updates from there.

2588
02:02:06,240 --> 02:02:09,160
Speaker 1: To surprise you at all that they are the betting

2589
02:02:09,200 --> 02:02:13,440
Speaker 1: favorite right now to win it all. Baltimore slight favorite

2590
02:02:13,720 --> 02:02:17,919
Speaker 1: over who you would think, Philly, y See and Buffalo,

2591
02:02:17,960 --> 02:02:21,680
Speaker 1: But right now the betting favorite is the Baltimore Ravens

2592
02:02:21,720 --> 02:02:23,440
Speaker 1: for Super Bowl sixty.

2593
02:02:23,600 --> 02:02:26,680
Speaker 2: I am a little surprised, mainly because we haven't seen

2594
02:02:26,760 --> 02:02:30,560
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson play at NVP level in the playoffs.

2595
02:02:30,600 --> 02:02:32,680
Speaker 1: Is it just one AFC title game appearance for them?

2596
02:02:32,800 --> 02:02:35,160
Speaker 2: Yes, it was, I want to say a couple of

2597
02:02:35,200 --> 02:02:40,280
Speaker 2: years ago in the Yeah, and Lamar had a bad game.

2598
02:02:40,400 --> 02:02:43,040
Speaker 1: He's been turnable followers that huge funb Yeah, they've.

2599
02:02:42,840 --> 02:02:45,600
Speaker 2: Been turnover prone and last year, I mean Mark Andrews

2600
02:02:45,640 --> 02:02:49,760
Speaker 2: with the most nightmarriage game you'll ever see. But that's

2601
02:02:49,800 --> 02:02:52,120
Speaker 2: why I feel like I would still have Philly as

2602
02:02:52,400 --> 02:02:55,800
Speaker 2: my favorite, because they're they're brought back all their top guys,

2603
02:02:55,800 --> 02:02:57,840
Speaker 2: they're still relatively young and all their positions that they

2604
02:02:57,880 --> 02:03:01,920
Speaker 2: need to be and Jyleen Hurts unlike Lamar Jackson, you know,

2605
02:03:02,480 --> 02:03:05,400
Speaker 2: has has showed up and had better playofformances on his resume.

2606
02:03:05,480 --> 02:03:08,800
Speaker 4: You guys believe that like Super Bowl logo like trend

2607
02:03:08,920 --> 02:03:11,480
Speaker 4: supposedly that where it's like the colors and the logo

2608
02:03:11,560 --> 02:03:13,160
Speaker 4: have revealed the Super Bowl teams.

2609
02:03:13,320 --> 02:03:15,400
Speaker 1: I know that thing is so wild and this year

2610
02:03:15,440 --> 02:03:17,800
Speaker 1: we're out west right, San Yes.

2611
02:03:17,680 --> 02:03:19,680
Speaker 2: Santa Claia. What's the other one. It's like if the

2612
02:03:19,720 --> 02:03:23,640
Speaker 2: team that wears white jerseys or whatever, like loses x

2613
02:03:23,680 --> 02:03:25,960
Speaker 2: amount of times if you're you know, wearing the white

2614
02:03:26,040 --> 02:03:27,720
Speaker 2: jerseys versus this, you're not this.

2615
02:03:27,800 --> 02:03:30,200
Speaker 1: Your Super Bowl logo has got a million colors. I

2616
02:03:30,240 --> 02:03:32,800
Speaker 1: know it's like Rainbow Road. So does that mean by

2617
02:03:32,840 --> 02:03:35,640
Speaker 1: default it's gonna work? This little theory that well everybody

2618
02:03:35,720 --> 02:03:36,440
Speaker 1: could be right.

2619
02:03:36,440 --> 02:03:38,520
Speaker 4: People are thrown out like, oh well, purple could be

2620
02:03:38,640 --> 02:03:40,920
Speaker 4: like the Ravens. And then there's green and yellow. So

2621
02:03:40,920 --> 02:03:42,880
Speaker 4: it's like, is that the Packers or is at the Eagles?

2622
02:03:43,000 --> 02:03:45,440
Speaker 4: Or there's blue? Is that the Chargers? There's the red

2623
02:03:45,480 --> 02:03:48,160
Speaker 4: and the yellow. It could be the Chiefs. There's like

2624
02:03:48,200 --> 02:03:49,440
Speaker 4: six different teams that could be.

2625
02:03:50,560 --> 02:03:51,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2626
02:03:51,080 --> 02:03:53,600
Speaker 1: How about this year from Evan, he said that he

2627
02:03:53,720 --> 02:03:57,680
Speaker 1: thought Max would choose Warrior for the farting power. I

2628
02:03:57,760 --> 02:04:01,520
Speaker 1: must say I was a little unfamiliar this, but Evan says, yeah,

2629
02:04:01,720 --> 02:04:04,320
Speaker 1: Super Smash Brothers, you can fart on other players. If

2630
02:04:04,360 --> 02:04:07,880
Speaker 1: Max Bowen knew this, he would dump bowser quicker than

2631
02:04:08,560 --> 02:04:10,880
Speaker 1: you could imagine. He'd be all in on Warrio.

2632
02:04:12,040 --> 02:04:13,920
Speaker 4: I need to remember that because I played Super Smash Brothers,

2633
02:04:13,920 --> 02:04:16,120
Speaker 4: I don't remember the ability to fart on other players.

2634
02:04:16,200 --> 02:04:17,760
Speaker 1: Now that, yeah, I don't know if I want to

2635
02:04:17,800 --> 02:04:20,760
Speaker 1: teach him that. How about this from Brandt. You guys

2636
02:04:20,760 --> 02:04:24,720
Speaker 1: seeing this picture he's got a full rainbow road track

2637
02:04:24,960 --> 02:04:30,760
Speaker 1: with fifty two Mario karts. Picture many Mario karts he

2638
02:04:30,840 --> 02:04:31,879
Speaker 1: thinks are awesome.

2639
02:04:32,280 --> 02:04:33,800
Speaker 2: Nice nice, nice man.

2640
02:04:33,920 --> 02:04:36,720
Speaker 1: That is great. And boy, his house looks so organized.

2641
02:04:37,040 --> 02:04:38,960
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, is yours looking like that?

2642
02:04:39,160 --> 02:04:39,240
Speaker 5: Not?

2643
02:04:39,440 --> 02:04:39,680
Speaker 1: Hell?

2644
02:04:39,800 --> 02:04:40,040
Speaker 2: Though?

2645
02:04:41,160 --> 02:04:44,920
Speaker 1: That is awesome? Absolutely love that Jacob be out at

2646
02:04:44,920 --> 02:04:46,920
Speaker 1: the State Fair coming up on Wednesday, Mark, I think

2647
02:04:46,920 --> 02:04:49,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna go out there tomorrow and he must stops

2648
02:04:49,280 --> 02:04:50,160
Speaker 1: for the family tomorrow.

2649
02:04:50,760 --> 02:04:56,360
Speaker 4: Where's this again? The State Fair? I could say, boy,

2650
02:04:56,560 --> 02:04:58,360
Speaker 4: I mean there's plenty of ride. Are your kids big

2651
02:04:58,400 --> 02:04:59,560
Speaker 4: like carnival ride people?

2652
02:04:59,720 --> 02:05:00,440
Speaker 6: Or they want to be?

2653
02:05:00,760 --> 02:05:01,640
Speaker 2: Are they still too young?

2654
02:05:02,160 --> 02:05:02,240
Speaker 3: No?

2655
02:05:02,480 --> 02:05:04,920
Speaker 1: I mean I no. I think we'll probably dabble a

2656
02:05:04,960 --> 02:05:08,280
Speaker 1: little bit, but not as much. You know, we're not

2657
02:05:08,360 --> 02:05:11,040
Speaker 1: there to like all of a sudden just go right

2658
02:05:11,080 --> 02:05:11,680
Speaker 1: after rideout.

2659
02:05:12,280 --> 02:05:14,919
Speaker 2: How adventurous are you going to be in the food department?

2660
02:05:15,880 --> 02:05:19,520
Speaker 1: I plan to eat a very light lunch, okay, very light.

2661
02:05:19,880 --> 02:05:21,280
Speaker 1: It might just be a breakfast day.

2662
02:05:21,720 --> 02:05:23,800
Speaker 4: So like when Ashley and I went Friday, like we

2663
02:05:23,840 --> 02:05:25,760
Speaker 4: still we didn't go with the kids yet, So there's

2664
02:05:25,800 --> 02:05:27,760
Speaker 4: still some things. I'm like, Okay, I know where this

2665
02:05:27,840 --> 02:05:29,600
Speaker 4: is at now, Like I think James and I are

2666
02:05:29,640 --> 02:05:35,880
Speaker 4: both like same brain here. The deep fried barbecue pork sandwich,

2667
02:05:36,880 --> 02:05:39,400
Speaker 4: the pork cheff sandwich. James and I were like, yeah,

2668
02:05:39,400 --> 02:05:40,600
Speaker 4: we need to try that. I saw where it is.

2669
02:05:40,640 --> 02:05:42,040
Speaker 4: I'm going to get it the next time we go.

2670
02:05:42,200 --> 02:05:42,760
Speaker 4: So there's that.

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02:05:43,160 --> 02:05:43,880
Speaker 2: I'm not lying.

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02:05:44,360 --> 02:05:48,520
Speaker 4: The bacon pickle ranch pizza is excellent. It sounds kind

2673
02:05:48,520 --> 02:05:49,000
Speaker 4: of crazy.

2674
02:05:49,040 --> 02:05:51,320
Speaker 2: It does sound crazy, but it's delicious.

2675
02:05:51,400 --> 02:05:55,240
Speaker 1: Bacon pickle ranch. Okay, all right, all right, okay.

2676
02:05:55,000 --> 02:05:55,760
Speaker 2: That's very good.

2677
02:05:56,240 --> 02:05:59,520
Speaker 4: If you are Maddie, are going to consume any adult beverages,

2678
02:05:59,560 --> 02:06:00,040
Speaker 4: I would.

2679
02:05:59,840 --> 02:06:03,440
Speaker 1: Say probably merench mimosa is solid.

2680
02:06:03,560 --> 02:06:05,440
Speaker 4: The brunch momosa is very good. You can get the

2681
02:06:05,440 --> 02:06:07,600
Speaker 4: cotton candy margarita that is also very good.

2682
02:06:07,680 --> 02:06:09,240
Speaker 1: That's what Jake Querry judged you for.

2683
02:06:09,360 --> 02:06:11,680
Speaker 4: No he could judge Amu on the cotton candy sun

2684
02:06:11,760 --> 02:06:13,840
Speaker 4: King beer. I don't think he was aware of sun King.

2685
02:06:13,960 --> 02:06:16,600
Speaker 4: He thought I was drinking like a cotton candy soda

2686
02:06:16,680 --> 02:06:18,280
Speaker 4: and I was like, no, no, no, this is a beer,

2687
02:06:18,320 --> 02:06:20,920
Speaker 4: my friend, And he's like, oh, okay, So there's that

2688
02:06:20,960 --> 02:06:23,640
Speaker 4: as well. That is also very good. Also, I think

2689
02:06:23,680 --> 02:06:26,600
Speaker 4: you and Maddie would probably like the shakeup. It's a

2690
02:06:26,800 --> 02:06:30,480
Speaker 4: like a pineapple like almost like a pineapple whip alcoholic beverage,

2691
02:06:30,480 --> 02:06:31,240
Speaker 4: but it's got like gin.

2692
02:06:31,280 --> 02:06:33,200
Speaker 2: It's a gin cocktail, very.

2693
02:06:33,000 --> 02:06:34,840
Speaker 1: Good, like something you'd have on a honeymoon.

2694
02:06:35,000 --> 02:06:38,040
Speaker 4: Yes, so there's a pineapple one, there's a lemonade one.

2695
02:06:38,080 --> 02:06:38,920
Speaker 4: They're both very good.

2696
02:06:38,960 --> 02:06:41,200
Speaker 1: Good to know. Weather looks pretty good. First State Fair

2697
02:06:41,360 --> 02:06:44,960
Speaker 1: week one. Last Colt one here, James Boyd. This from Fitch, Well,

2698
02:06:45,040 --> 02:06:47,120
Speaker 1: DJ Giddens be in lined for backup running back over

2699
02:06:47,200 --> 02:06:49,680
Speaker 1: Khalil Herbert. You think you've got a defined role yet

2700
02:06:49,720 --> 02:06:50,360
Speaker 1: behind Taylor.

2701
02:06:50,720 --> 02:06:54,240
Speaker 2: I do believe DJ Giddons given the pass catching ability

2702
02:06:54,240 --> 02:06:55,839
Speaker 2: and he's smoothed running that football.

2703
02:06:55,920 --> 02:06:58,720
Speaker 1: Curious if there is a third down roll. Herbert's a

2704
02:06:58,800 --> 02:07:01,960
Speaker 1: veteran this kind of take those duties again. I think

2705
02:07:01,960 --> 02:07:03,360
Speaker 1: it's still a little bit up in the air because

2706
02:07:03,400 --> 02:07:06,240
Speaker 1: DJ Gett in smooth operator is a good way to

2707
02:07:06,280 --> 02:07:09,160
Speaker 1: describe it. All right, Jeff, we' back tomorrow. James off

2708
02:07:09,240 --> 02:07:11,720
Speaker 1: to Baltimore. Everybody, have a great start to your week.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Fan Morning Show.