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Speaker 1: Well, nothing alarming mother nature wise on this Tuesday morning.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps it's an indicator of how today will go for

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Speaker 1: That is the tag deadline. Daniel Jones, Alec Pierce. What

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Speaker 1: it have to come until Monday of next week before

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Speaker 1: part of today's show. And good Tuesday morning to you.

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Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Bowen, James Boyd and Mark Dyton behind the glass.

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Speaker 2: Gentlemen, Good morning to you, Good morning. It should be

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Speaker 2: a rather newsy day.

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Speaker 3: As I told you when I was coming in, I've

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Speaker 3: written about every possible scenario that could happen. So whenever

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Speaker 3: that story gets posted and people are like, how did

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Speaker 4: I did not.

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Speaker 3: I spent most of yesterday preparing for the inevitable, whatever

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Speaker 3: essence want to roll the dice a bit and not

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Speaker 3: tag Daniel Jones or Alex Pierce, depending on which one

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Speaker 3: they prefer. But there is an argument for both. And

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Speaker 3: I also have like a little bit of a nugget

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Speaker 3: how you doing well?

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Speaker 2: Dino nugget teas?

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Speaker 1: It's a Cleosaurus teas here at seven oh one.

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Speaker 3: The Max like I lost all my dinosaur knowledge when

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Speaker 5: I feel like they've named new breeds of dinosaurs. They

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Speaker 1: Come on over, brother, come on over, and we'll have

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Speaker 1: some stories. I need some school for Max. Mark, Good morning,

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Speaker 5: Hanging in there. Hope you boys are doing all the

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Speaker 5: snows melted already. So that was a weird twenty four

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Speaker 1: As we said on yesterday show, tomorrow is really our

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Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and reward early on this Tuesday morning.

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Speaker 3: the Colts do not want those. They want Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 3: They told us that they told their team that they

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Speaker 2: They're trying to make Daniel Jones their long term answer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you cannot have conviction and the original plan. But

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Speaker 2: All right, so.

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Speaker 3: gold medal.

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Speaker 1: Which again I think a schedule for that is just

436
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Speaker 1: before training camp, so it's not like they'd be missing

437
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Speaker 1: per se anytime. But yeah, obviously injuries you would be

438
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Speaker 1: curious about.

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Speaker 6: All right.

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Speaker 1: Coming up on the other side, we didn't get a

441
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Speaker 1: text line. It is a no brainer? You tag Daniel Jones.

442
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Speaker 1: Is it a no brainer? We'll talk much more about

443
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Speaker 1: that to get you set for the four o'clock deadline

444
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Speaker 1: coming up today. Kevin Bowe and James Boyd and Mark

445
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Speaker 1: Dyton here on a Tuesday, a.

446
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Speaker 3: Little aston you received. James Boyd, Yes, absolutely. I'm glad

447
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Speaker 3: Marks playing a clean version so we can stay.

448
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Speaker 2: On the air.

449
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of editor I yeah, this.

450
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Speaker 3: Is like when you know, my mom would get in

451
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Speaker 3: my car so to this day and the clean version

452
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Speaker 3: isn't playing and she looks at me like, who raised you?

453
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, let me turn the radio on.

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Speaker 1: Maddie Bowen one time had a CD back in the

455
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Speaker 1: day that maybe not the cleanest version, and uh, my

456
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Speaker 1: father in law just went sunroof open CD out. Seriously, Mark,

457
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Speaker 1: I think I really respect that dad.

458
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Speaker 2: Move man.

459
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Speaker 1: You imagine the feeling when that releases in the air.

460
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Speaker 1: Imagine meing the car behind you, like, what the hell

461
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Speaker 1: was that? That's like knowing my father in law, Mike Lovers.

462
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess he had an arm to get it,

463
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Speaker 1: you know, maybe off the side of the road. What

464
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Speaker 1: what album was I you know, I'm sure it was

465
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Speaker 1: a burned CD. You know, I have a feeling on

466
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Speaker 1: that end.

467
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Speaker 5: But my god, I remember I asked my mom to

468
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Speaker 5: pick up the new Limbiscuit album she did from Target,

469
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Speaker 5: and there's all these stickers on because, as I said, oh,

470
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Speaker 5: it's got the song nookie and brick stuff on it.

471
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Speaker 5: And I ripped open the plastic and underneath all the

472
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Speaker 5: stickers was the parental advisory sticker. And she didn't realize

473
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Speaker 5: she bought the explicit version and she tried to take

474
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Speaker 5: it back. I'm like, no, no, no, it's already open.

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Speaker 1: He'ld PA was hiding under there. It's already open. Can't

476
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Speaker 1: do anything about it. Did it come with the backwards red?

477
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Speaker 5: It should have it should have need to say that

478
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 5: CD got taken away at some point because my brother

479
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Speaker 5: blasted intogether now and that is a lot of curse

480
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Speaker 5: words in it, So that got taken away for.

481
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Speaker 4: A little bit.

482
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Speaker 1: Thrown out the sun roof or no, no, no, still air.

483
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Speaker 1: We were talking a little bit earlier James Boyd's got

484
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Speaker 1: a Colts franchise tag related nugget that he wants to share.

485
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Speaker 1: But yes, you know, going back to what we were

486
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Speaker 1: talking about a little bit in the opening segment about

487
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Speaker 1: March madness. I don't know why, maybe like the airs

488
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Speaker 1: Zona whiteout last night, it struck me how much I'm

489
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Speaker 1: looking forward to the next month. And you know, obviously

490
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Speaker 1: when we have a final four, you know, I think

491
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Speaker 1: back to recent final fours we've had, certainly the COVID one,

492
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: you know, a little bit of illustra kind of pulled

493
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Speaker 1: away from it, but you still had undefeated Gonzaga getting

494
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Speaker 1: to the national title game. Remember the Jalen sug shot to.

495
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Speaker 2: Beat UCU out here, right, I believe.

496
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Speaker 8: Right.

497
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Speaker 1: Then you go back to the last time we had fans.

498
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 1: You had undefeated Kentucky getting there in Wisconsin, beating them

499
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Speaker 1: in the semi final, and then Duke winning the national

500
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Speaker 1: championship with Grayson Allen going off in that national title game,

501
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Speaker 1: you go back to the one before that, it's Butler

502
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Speaker 1: Duke in the national title game.

503
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Speaker 2: That one kind of.

504
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Speaker 1: Speaks for itself. So again, I think anytime when we

505
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Speaker 1: have it. Obviously we've got history of some great, great

506
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Speaker 1: final fours. But you know, when I look at Michigan,

507
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Speaker 1: when I look at Arizona, when I look at Duke,

508
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Speaker 1: I mean there was a thought a week or two

509
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Speaker 1: ago I thought Michigan was on a different level. And

510
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Speaker 1: now I'm like, man, you see what Arizona's doing in

511
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Speaker 1: the Big Twelve. I mean, the Big Twelve is loaded in.

512
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Speaker 1: Arizona's got two losses on the entire season, and it's

513
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Speaker 1: not like they shy away from anybody in the non conference.

514
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Speaker 1: Then I think to other storylines. The Darren Peterson Kansas

515
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: NCAA tournament storyline fascinating to me, Like, are you you

516
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 1: know can one player carry a team? You don't think

517
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Speaker 1: Darren Peterson has the individual talent to carry a team.

518
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 2: He certainly does.

519
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, any play is gonna play. So

520
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 1: that is a great storyline. Obviously, the mayem Ohio angle,

521
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Speaker 1: I think is a really fun one to have. Certainly Purdue,

522
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Speaker 1: it's been by their standard at disappointed regular season. Do

523
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Speaker 1: they somehow some way flip the script and get on

524
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Speaker 1: a run to try and get here to Indy? So

525
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Speaker 1: I can't wait. I think, first of all, there's a

526
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Speaker 1: lot of unknown I think, who's gonna win it all?

527
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Speaker 1: When you look at Duke, when you look at Michigan,

528
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Speaker 1: when you look at Arizona. I think there's a lot

529
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Speaker 1: of other storylines where I just don't recall having that

530
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Speaker 1: many of them entering this month.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be I think a little bit of

532
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Speaker 3: a a testing of your wills to see, Okay, who's

533
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Speaker 3: like mentally tough enough to go out there and perform.

534
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Speaker 3: But also, like I was telling you during the break,

535
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Speaker 3: the thing I love about college basketball is like your

536
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 3: legacy could be decided in like a month, just how

537
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Speaker 3: crazy it is. And I mean, you could have all

538
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Speaker 3: the success in the regular season and I'd say that

539
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 3: doesn't matter.

540
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 2: But we know rewrites so much.

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Speaker 8: Oh.

542
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, if you going, like, for example, I mean, look

543
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Speaker 3: at look at Steph you know what?

544
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Speaker 2: Absolutely? Yeah, I mean Jenfifer dead.

545
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Speaker 3: I remember the games that they had the runs that

546
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Speaker 3: they had, and you know, I'm now I'm getting way

547
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Speaker 3: back with the George Mason's of the world and things

548
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Speaker 3: like that or what was it, uh Dunk City, a

549
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 3: Florida golf coast, and so you enjoy those types of runs,

550
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Speaker 3: and so I think.

551
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Speaker 2: That we can get a little bit more of that

552
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Speaker 2: sprinkled in on you.

553
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Speaker 3: You were kind of concerned, Kevin about maybe losing that

554
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Speaker 3: because of the portal.

555
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Speaker 2: Can we get a little bit of that sprinkled in?

556
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Speaker 3: And if I get that along with obviously the big

557
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 3: dogs that are always there at the end, I'll be okay.

558
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Speaker 2: Two things.

559
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Speaker 1: Last year we had one Cinderella and I had to

560
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Speaker 1: find Cinderella is a double digit seede. Our one Cinderella

561
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: last year was John bleeding Arkansas. John Calipari. Does the

562
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: slipper still fit? I can hear Gus Johnson yelling that

563
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: as John Caliperry's seven million dollar roster makes it to

564
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Speaker 1: the sweet sixteen, I mean.

565
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Speaker 2: Like, again, what are we doing there now?

566
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Speaker 1: I told you guys yesterday that my go to the

567
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: weekend was me discovering the twenty two minute buzzer beater,

568
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Speaker 1: and see tournament video. I was certainly very impressed by

569
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Speaker 1: watching that. You know, like it is Dusty May at

570
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Speaker 1: Michigan without Florida Atlantic's run.

571
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Speaker 2: Oh, that's a great question.

572
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Speaker 3: Maybe not, because that really put him out there to

573
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Speaker 3: the world and showed how good of a coach he is.

574
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Speaker 3: I think he ended up taking one of those big

575
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Speaker 3: men actually with him back to Michigan.

576
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Speaker 1: But I say that that was.

577
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Speaker 2: Part the run.

578
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Speaker 1: James had a game winning layup down one in the

579
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Speaker 1: first game of the tournament. Yes, Nick Boyd has a

580
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: game winning layup to beat Penny Hardaway in Memphis. Out

581
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,959
Speaker 1: to the Boys in game one, and you go back

582
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: to Loylo Chicago, they run to the final four. They

583
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Speaker 1: hit a game winner in round one. It's so it's Butler,

584
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 1: Butler's second run. You've got, you know, rest in peace

585
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: to Andrew Smith. He has a game winner over Old Dominion.

586
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: It's just wild, how you know. We just think back

587
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 1: on these runs and they're like boom, Final four. This

588
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: that it's like, wait a minute, we got the heroics

589
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: on that Thursday or Friday. That never would have happened.

590
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, even I want to say, didn't Florida Atlantic lose

591
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 3: on a buzzer beater to go to the national championship,

592
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 3: so San Diego State, right, yeah, so they felt both

593
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 3: sides of it that they want to come for.

594
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

595
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I would agree with you there, Kevin, for sure.

596
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Speaker 3: And I think again it just adds to the theater

597
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 3: because there are no do overs, there is no series.

598
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Speaker 1: You tease this a little bit earlier with a cults

599
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 1: related nugget. What do you got for your okay, a

600
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 1: cliosaurus nugget here? Well, first, have a question boys about commitment?

601
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 2: All right?

602
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 3: Oh jeez, both of you are married. Can you can

603
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Speaker 3: you share how long you were engaged before you got married?

604
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Speaker 1: We got engaged in April and married that next February.

605
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Speaker 1: So what was that ten months?

606
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 2: Okay? About you?

607
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 4: Mark?

608
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 5: Got married, got engaged in April of twenty fifteen, got

609
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Speaker 5: married in November of twenty fifteen.

610
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: All right, so what's your engagement day?

611
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 6: Mark?

612
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: Twenty fifth? All right, I've told you April, so fourteenth.

613
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 2: Tiger Woods won the master.

614
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: Rankings? Are suspect?

615
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Speaker 6: Dude?

616
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Speaker 3: Do I need to get Jeff to come into the

617
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 3: show and show office Tiger Wood's knowledge just yet to

618
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 3: put you back in your place with your tiger hat.

619
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Speaker 1: You saw how to discuss that I was to them, well,

620
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: let's not go there, all right, so.

621
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Speaker 2: They'll make my blood boil at seven to forty one.

622
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Speaker 3: Throughout this engagement, I would venture to say, you did

623
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Speaker 3: not court anybody else, right, no one else was courting

624
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 3: you or the other person?

625
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 4: Correct? Correct?

626
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: Okay, right, all right, I'm a little nervous.

627
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 3: Let's say the Colts get, for the sake of argument,

628
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 3: the transition tag will use it or look at like

629
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Speaker 3: an engagement. Let's say we put the transition tag on

630
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones, which means he'll get about thirty seven thirty

631
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Speaker 3: eight million dollars guaranteed. However, if he signs an offer

632
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 3: sheet with a new team and he leaves and the

633
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Speaker 3: Coats don't match it, they get no draft compensation.

634
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Speaker 2: You would think, okay, well, just match it. That's great.

635
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 3: But the caveat of if he's transitioned tagged, another team

636
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 3: could wait and wait, wait, wait, while you're happily engaged

637
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 3: and thinking you're going to get married to the last minute,

638
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 3: so they have all the way. If you're an opposing team,

639
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 3: you have all the way until July fifteenth to decide

640
00:29:58,520 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 3: if you want to throw your hat in the ring

641
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Speaker 3: and make an offer for him. So I say that

642
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 3: because if you think about where July fifteenth is on

643
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 3: the NFL calendar, that is after the draft, that is

644
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 3: after the first and second and third wave of free agency,

645
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 3: you're probably a week or two away from training camp.

646
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 3: Now this is still kind of crazy, but I'm just

647
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 3: saying just because if they do place a transition tag

648
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 3: on him, if they get engaged, the wandering eye is

649
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 3: not done. Somebody else could step in and say, you

650
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 3: know what, we have struck out with our quarterback decisions.

651
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 2: We don't like where we're going in this offseason.

652
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 3: Let's make an offer for Daniel Jones that is astronomical

653
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 3: after you've already kind of built.

654
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Speaker 2: Your roster, and see if we can't poach him.

655
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Speaker 1: Your thoughts, Yeah, that would be wild. Gosh. I guess

656
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: it's a reminder of why we've only had what two

657
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: transition tags in the NFL in the last like fifteen

658
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: years with it, I, yeah, that would be I certainly

659
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: have not given that too much thought. You know, I

660
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: struggle a little bit with this. James of like, to me,

661
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: I've always felt like the best opportunity to build a

662
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: five to seven year window of success comes with the

663
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: young rookie contract quarterback. That allows you to not be

664
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Speaker 1: totally cap tied by the major quarterback contract that the

665
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: Colts are potentially about to enter right and it allows

666
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: you to build help out your defense. You know, I

667
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: think Houston's a decent example of it right now. You know,

668
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: they go out yesterday, they can make a trade for

669
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Speaker 1: a notable running back. They obviously have one of the

670
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: best defenses in the NFL. Deneil Hunter, you know, was

671
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: a big freight and signing and all of that is

672
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: with CJ. Stroud on a rookie deal, so it allows

673
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: him to do a lot of the other stuff. And

674
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Speaker 1: at some point, I think your quarterback then takes the

675
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: torch of saying now we need you to patch some

676
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: of our holes. You know, Buffalo, I think's going through

677
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: that right now with Josh Allen. And again, sometimes it works,

678
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: sometimes it doesn't. That's where I kind of sit with

679
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: the Daniel Jones situation is they are unable to get

680
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: the young quarterback in the next two years without the

681
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: first round pick in my opinion, so therefore your next

682
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: best option is can you somehow some way find Sam

683
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: Donald And if for some reason you don't get something

684
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: done with Daniel Jones. I don't know how that is possible.

685
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: And again I'm not saying that Daniel Jones is going

686
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: to be the next Sam Donald, but your best opportunity

687
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: at somehow finding this, you know, whatever band aid quarterback

688
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: is Jones, right, And maybe he's not Donald, maybe he's

689
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: Geno Smith and Seattle, maybe he's you know, Baker Mayfield

690
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: in Tampa.

691
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: Maybe it's something along those lines.

692
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Speaker 1: But to me, for the years of twenty twenty six,

693
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Speaker 1: potentially twenty twenty seven, that's the thing that makes the

694
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Speaker 1: most sense.

695
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Speaker 8: So I just.

696
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Speaker 1: I would be stunned if we got to four o'clock today,

697
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Speaker 1: maybe not a sund to four o'clock today, but certainly

698
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: on Monday. If somehow, some way Daniel Jones is agreed

699
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: to terms of another team, I just I don't see

700
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: how that's possible given what the Colts did two months ago,

701
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: and they say, hey, we're going to run it back

702
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: because we believe in the first two months of the season.

703
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Speaker 2: So I don't know if that answers your question at all,

704
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: but that's my overall thought on Daniel Jones. Yeah, I

705
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: just think it's one of those things where.

706
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Speaker 3: Ideally you get the long term deal done without having

707
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 3: to tag him, but if you do use these transition

708
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 3: tag the only thing that's stopping another team from poaching

709
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 3: him besides him himself and deciding, Okay, where do I

710
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 3: want to play? And you know, on field production and

711
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,719
Speaker 3: things like that is money. And again, just because you

712
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 3: tag them and you start to build the rest of

713
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 3: your roster oute does not necessarily mean that you're out

714
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Speaker 3: of the woods.

715
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 8: Now.

716
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Speaker 3: You could tag them, reach the long term agreement, wipe

717
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 3: our hands, we're all good. But I was just saying

718
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 3: it is a very small, small possibility and kind of

719
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 3: a funny one in my opinion, that you could go

720
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Speaker 3: through all of this and get to July and say

721
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 3: and think you're in the clear, and some team could

722
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 3: be like, you know what, We're desperate dumb enough to

723
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Speaker 3: try to go for this.

724
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Speaker 2: So it is a thing where again.

725
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Speaker 1: The Colts could just match and it would be a

726
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Speaker 1: mood point.

727
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely yeah, and at that point they I mean,

728
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 3: my goodness, could you imagine not matching and that.

729
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 2: Other team would be yeah, yeah.

730
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Speaker 3: But I just thought it was a funny little like

731
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Speaker 3: not loophole, but just a little caveat there, like, wait

732
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 3: a second, this isn't official until you get past July fifteenth,

733
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 3: or until he agrees to a long term deal. So again,

734
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 3: kind of a quirky idea, not something that's realistic. Thought

735
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 3: it was a little fun topic that we're out there

736
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 3: here as we wait around for the tag deadline. But

737
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Speaker 3: I will say it's still in my opinion, Kevin, it

738
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 3: still would be in Daniel's best interest. Let's say, if

739
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 3: the Colts do tag Alec Pierce, for him to not

740
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 3: necessarily rush into an agreement with the Colts, not saying

741
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 3: he couldn't come back to them, but why not allow

742
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 3: yourself to reach that next Monday. Other teams can come

743
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 3: in and perhaps drive your demand up or drive the

744
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 3: price up for what you'll be playing on. And I

745
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 3: get that some people are like, why would he do that?

746
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 3: He provide his career here in Indianapolis the way I

747
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 3: see it, and feel free to weigh in and chime

748
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 3: in you all. I certainly love hearing from the listeners

749
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 3: if you're just joining us for debating, obviously the transition tag,

750
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 3: the franchise tag, and what the Colts should do. But

751
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 3: if I'm Daniel I'm thinking I played through a broken

752
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 3: leg for you all. I tore my achilles here. Yes,

753
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 3: you helped me ride my career, but I gave something

754
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 3: to I'm going to come and collect what I think

755
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 3: I deserve money wise. And if you have as a team,

756
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 3: put yourself in a position where you've lost leverage because

757
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 3: you have no first round picks, the backup on your

758
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 3: roster coming into last year. Now, once trade out, your

759
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 3: new backup is only a peer in about two games

760
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 3: realistically in the NFL, that's on you pay me my money.

761
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Speaker 1: Let's say you get to three fifty nine today, you're

762
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: equally as far apart on a long term deal with

763
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Speaker 1: both of them.

764
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 2: You tag who.

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00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: Boy? I might.

766
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Speaker 3: I might tag Jones because I just you cannot well

767
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Speaker 3: does he plays quarterback?

768
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 2: Because he plays quarterback?

769
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: Now again tagging Daniel Jones. Forty three million dollar deal

770
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Speaker 1: guaranteed for one year for a guy coming off with

771
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: torny keep now less than twelve months?

772
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 3: What's your backup plan if he if there is any chance,

773
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 3: if you're that far apart and there's a chance he

774
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 3: could leave, I mean, what what?

775
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: Why risk that?

776
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Speaker 3: Especially if you think that he's your dude and as

777
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 3: great as Alec Pierce has been, and Mark, you know,

778
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 3: tell me if I'm crazy. I probably am a little

779
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 3: crazy always every morning here I want to send by

780
00:36:58,360 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 3: the fan.

781
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: But am I wrong?

782
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 3: Think the quarterback still matters a little bit more than

783
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 3: the wide receiver who had a great year last year,

784
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 3: But I don't know.

785
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 2: It's a hard one.

786
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 5: It is an odd situation to be in because you

787
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 5: either have to pay a guy who has never stayed

788
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 5: healthy throughout his career and is coming off of torn

789
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 5: achilles at the most important position in sports, or you're

790
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 5: trying to get a guy who you think could be

791
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 5: a number one wide receiver that's never really put up

792
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 5: wide receiver top wide receiver numbers. You're hoping, you're banking

793
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 5: that he can do that, but you also don't know.

794
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 5: So just this great unknown for both guys where it's

795
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 5: like you're weighing both options, like, well, one of them's

796
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 5: got to get it, but I don't know who.

797
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 1: I probably will pick Alc Pierce.

798
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 5: But that's just me, And I'm saying that only because

799
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 5: if you actually think he's going to be a top

800
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 5: wide receiver and you're going to get rid of Michael

801
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 5: Pittman junior or find at least or at least restructures contract.

802
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 5: I feel like if you are concerned about Daniel jones

803
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 5: Achilles injury, then you could find a veteran quarterback on

804
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 5: the free agent market. Now you might have to pay

805
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 5: for that, you probably also won't have to pay forty

806
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 5: three million dollars a year for that person.

807
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is funny, Mark, because if Daniel Jones played

808
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: any other position on the football field. Oh, and we

809
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: throughout this debate, you would tell Daniel Jones to go

810
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: kick rocks. Yeah, and he had the career that he's

811
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 1: had so far. Like if he was the Daniel Jones

812
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: equivalent at linebacker, yeah, you'd say siya. And on the

813
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: Pierce front and James we talked earlier, George Pickens has

814
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: been tagged by the Cowboys. Therefore, the thought is, if

815
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: Alec Pierce hits free agency, he becomes the top whiteout right.

816
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: So if you want to compare markets, now again, if

817
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: you compare positions, although Mark says Pierce, I think Mark

818
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: would admit quarterback is more important than wipe out of

819
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: there right right, But if you compare markets, who will

820
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: have more suitors, more willing suitors?

821
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 2: Oh it's Peers. Yes, absolutely.

822
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: So this is where again I think he gets into

823
00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 1: a very fascinating debate about what you would do if

824
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: you feel equally as far apart on both of them.

825
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: Come three fifty nine.

826
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: Boy, what a conundrum.

827
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: We really have never sniffed this with the Colts. I

828
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: mean they've only used the tag one. McAfee was irate

829
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 1: that Gregson tagged him in twenty thirteen and since then

830
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: it's been Michael Pittman Junior and Ballad kind of admitted

831
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: it last week they really felt like they were going

832
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: to get a long term deal done. Anyways. You know

833
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,959
Speaker 1: with Pearson Jones, I don't know if the confidence level

834
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 1: is there. And honestly, again a team period having two

835
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 1: tag candidates in one year, There's been so many years.

836
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 1: Mark we've done this morning show on franchise Tag deadline

837
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: Day and we're like, who cares. The Colts don't have

838
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: anybody that you would even think about tagging, and now

839
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: here we have two.

840
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 5: And I think if you don't tag Alec Pierce, you

841
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 5: are waving goodbye to him because I think he'll leave

842
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 5: in free agency. He'll go to greener pasture somewhere else.

843
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 5: Someone will open the bag for him and they'll all

844
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 5: from that money. With teams of cap space around like

845
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 5: ninety million dollars and all that stuff that can restructure

846
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 5: get one hundred million dollars. I think if you do

847
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 5: not take Alec tag Alec Pierce today, in some way,

848
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 5: he is gone.

849
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 3: And I know people are banking on Alex saying, and

850
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 3: he did say this at the end of the season,

851
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 3: it will go a long way towards bringing him back

852
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 3: if Daniel Jones is back. But as I wrote my

853
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 3: story that got posted yesterday on the Athletic, that was

854
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 3: before other teams could throw a big bag of money

855
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 3: on the table and say how much do you want?

856
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 3: So I'm not even questioning Alex's loyalty or his character,

857
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 3: nothing like that.

858
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 2: But it is business and in his case.

859
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 3: And what I try to keep in mind if I

860
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 3: were an athlete, which I am clearly not, I mean,

861
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 3: these guys are the best in the world, but you

862
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 3: have a very finite chance to make big money in

863
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 3: a very violent sport. In theory, Alec Pierce could get

864
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 3: paid again someday and get a lucrative deal. In another theory,

865
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 3: he could not. So that is something I think that

866
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 3: is at the forefront of Eddie free Agent's mind and

867
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 3: a sport like this And one quick thing, last thing

868
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 3: I know. We have Joel hey Ericson coming up here

869
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 3: at the top of the hour. He wrote a story today.

870
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 3: Kevin now was skimming through and reading through this morning

871
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 3: they'll getting ready for the show, and he has it

872
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 3: in here. This is not credit to me, This credit

873
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 3: to him. The last time the Colts used the transition

874
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 3: tag on a player was on linebacker Tony Bennett in

875
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety eight. Man, that's how long gets been since

876
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 3: that that has even been an option for this team.

877
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: You were sucking on a pass. Yes, I was no

878
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 2: bills back then. It was a good life.

879
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: Set six million dollar difference on the transition tag. I

880
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: want to get back to that at some point today.

881
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: Is it worth it?

882
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: Basically, is it worth it six million for you to

883
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: tell that player you go set your own market?

884
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

885
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: When that player might say, all right, we'll come back

886
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: and I guarantee you I'll find a contract that is

887
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: six million better than the thirty seven million transition TAC

888
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: That's an element I don't think we We probably should

889
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: hit on a little bit more Joel A. Rickson coming

890
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: up in fifteen, I do have a purdue I you

891
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: thought to throw your way on the hardwood here coming

892
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: up on the other side.

893
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 5: There's a text line question I want to throw your

894
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 5: guys way as well regarding Daniel Jones that I haven't

895
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 5: really thought about, but it makes a lot of sense.

896
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: I'm curious to pick your brains on it. We've got

897
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: a lot to get to and I gotta know with

898
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: Mark Dyton in the eight o'clock hour as well, it

899
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: is the fan morning show on a Tuesday.

900
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 7: Around to throw damn cram but Jack Lambwige get it

901
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 7: around like may go. Plus that said ne yo come

902
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 7: in yo, wow frisk kids Now the probes they can

903
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 7: gift it because you were.

904
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 4: Listening to the morning show on sports radio.

905
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 9: Joel A.

906
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 1: Erickson going to join us here a little over ten minutes.

907
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: Mark Dyton, I'm surprised you didn't respect more of the

908
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: Mike lovers throw the explicit CD out the sun roof.

909
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 4: Oh I did.

910
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: I'm curious what the album was that got if it

911
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 1: was a Burns set Mad's if you if you're listening,

912
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: shoot me tucks chime in here with that. What what

913
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: what what were the songs? What were the lyrics that

914
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: sent Mike Lubbers.

915
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 3: That was like in the Johnson Family Vacation movie when like,

916
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 3: I think it's bow Wow is in the movie and

917
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 3: he's playing his songs and Cedric the entertainer, I believe,

918
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 3: takes it and just chucks it out the window about

919
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:19,439
Speaker 3: bow Wow.

920
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: Gosh, now you're really racking my brain here.

921
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, hey, little bow Wow was he was

922
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 3: going on, like Mike Man my childhood right there.

923
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: He was at a WW event the other day. They

924
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: showed him on TV. I'm like, that's him.

925
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,479
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, we're all getting so old. Yeah,

926
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 3: now he's got like a daughter. I want to say

927
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 3: the maybe about ten or eleven. So yeah, time is moving, man.

928
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: Better chance we talk about Perdue in the Elite eight

929
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: this month, or we talk about Indiana making the tournament.

930
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I got distracted because we have this TV

931
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,959
Speaker 3: on in the studio and there Ady Mitchell. Yeah, they're

932
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 3: debating whether or not to tag Daniel Jones or Alec Pierce.

933
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 3: And one of the throws they show was the long

934
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 3: throws to Ady Mitchell in Englewood, not La te antally,

935
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 3: but against the rams where he caught it, made a

936
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 3: spectacular catch and then had the blunder at the end.

937
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 2: So I was trying to watch it to see, like,

938
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: why is he on the.

939
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: Screen somewhere Jeff's doing the gift of Leo and the

940
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: couch pointing to the TV of see. I told you.

941
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 2: Exactly all right, So run there, Bay one more time.

942
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Perdue Elite eight Indiana in the tournament?

943
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 2: Better chance?

944
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: What would you bet on as a better chance?

945
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 8: Oh?

946
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 3: Man, give me Perdue in the Elite eight over I

947
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 3: you making it? Yeah, I'm good with that.

948
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 1: I assume your answer would still be the same. Purdue

949
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: in the final four or IU winning a game in

950
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: the tournament.

951
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 3: Oh hold on, now, I'm my reverse course on that

952
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 3: one to say, I you, mar I findal four is hard?

953
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: Purdue Elite eight IU in the tourney? Better bet right now?

954
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: Lenardi's got him as the last team in. He's got

955
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: Ohio State just a couple spots above Indiana. Indiana at

956
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: Ohio State Saturday at five point thirty massive.

957
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 5: I will trust Matt Painter to get his crew right

958
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 5: before the tournament, so I will take Perdue in the

959
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 5: Elite eight, been there, done that.

960
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: Prdue fell the fifteen I saw in one pole I

961
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: think fourteen and the other pole he had the Boilers

962
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: is a three seed. They will have Northwestern excuse me, yes, Northwestern? Right, yeah,

963
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: they've got Northwestern Tomorrow night we'll again, we'll go doubleheaders

964
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: on Big ten Network for Indiana Purdue Butler six o'clock.

965
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: Shout out to.

966
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 2: Who do we have?

967
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: Chris? Is that right Mark that won the FEP pack?

968
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: So Butler Creighton earlier gates open at four point thirty

969
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: at Hinkley gets some happy hour beer specials. JANV.

970
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: We'll be out there for that one Butler Creighton.

971
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 5: Can I throw you guys a text line question that

972
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 5: I didn't really think about going off our Daniel Jones

973
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 5: conversation all ears so Ricky chimes in and he was,

974
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 5: you know, our debate between whether they should tag Alec

975
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 5: Pierce or Daniel Jones and what he would do. He said,

976
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 5: if you don't get a long term deal done with

977
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 5: Jones after you tag him, what incentive does he have

978
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 5: to rush back from injury without a long term deal

979
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 5: for money? Tag him for forty million dollars plus to

980
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 5: have him return in week eight. This is the year

981
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 5: it all finally blows up there, Which is a fair point.

982
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 5: If he's not signed to a long term deal and

983
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,959
Speaker 5: he's basically on a one year, forty million dollar deal,

984
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 5: why would he rush back when he's like, I'm an

985
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 5: hit free agency again, I have to be fully healthy

986
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 5: to try to get another back.

987
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's a fair point.

988
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones isn't striking as an individual that would want

989
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: to play that game. But I could see somebody in

990
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 1: his ear chirping about that, and James we talked a

991
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: little bit about this yesterday. Again, I'm in the camp

992
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: of whatever Jones gets some two to three year deal,

993
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: you get those guarantees out of the way. If it's

994
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: a three year deal, you get him out of the

995
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: way in the first two years. I think that is

996
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 1: probably I don't like any of it, to be honest

997
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: with you, but that's probably your best situation here. But like,

998
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: I don't like tag tag. You know people brought this up. Well,

999
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: you can tag him this year and tag him next year.

1000
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give the dude ninety five million guaranteed, one

1001
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: hundred million guaranteed when it's all said and done, when

1002
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: you know, when you listen to Ricky that sit there

1003
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: and say that. Now, I don't think the Colts believe

1004
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is in that sort of hell situation. I

1005
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 1: think the Colts think Daniel Jones is going to start

1006
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: week one, and I think Daniel Jones thinks he's going

1007
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 1: to start week one.

1008
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, he told us at the end of the season

1009
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 3: that he expects to be ready to go by training camp.

1010
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 3: Now we'll see how true that is and where he

1011
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 3: has his training camp. But I don't hate that question

1012
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 3: or that idea, because you do, in that scenario, have

1013
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 3: to prioritize yourself. If those just tuning in, we're debating

1014
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 3: whether or not if Daniel Jones or to get a

1015
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 3: one year deal basically get tagged and not get the

1016
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 3: long term deal long term security, what incentive would he

1017
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,959
Speaker 3: have to rush back, what incentive would he have to

1018
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 3: try to accelerate the Achilles rehab? And I do think

1019
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 3: that if a long term deal were not to get done,

1020
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 3: then yeah, you have to be in his ear, if

1021
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 3: you're his representation, if you're his camp, and say, wait

1022
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 3: a second, let's make sure that you prioritize your long

1023
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 3: term future. If you're not already getting that security financially

1024
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 3: from the Colts or another team, So.

1025
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 2: That is very interesting.

1026
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 3: I don't think again, I still think that's probably if

1027
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:45,479
Speaker 3: I had to put a percentage on it, I would

1028
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 3: go on the lower end. I mean, that's probably, in

1029
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 3: my opinion, like a fifteen percent chance of him doing

1030
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 3: something like that, because he's just not wired like that

1031
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 3: from everything I understand. But it is a unique situation,

1032
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 3: and I don't want to gloss over all. The little

1033
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 3: tentacle is still a word that you've used here in

1034
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 3: recent weeks, Kevin.

1035
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: You know, fish chiming in here on the TEXTA line

1036
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: goes time to tank. I mean that that's kind of

1037
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: the awkward nature of not having the two first round

1038
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: picks from what exactly to help out the Jets. You know,

1039
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 1: you just lost what seven straight to end last season,

1040
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,959
Speaker 1: and what did that do? Just sent that Jets pick

1041
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: even further yep up the old list here. You know

1042
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: a question I doing to throw Joel's a way when

1043
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: he joins us here at a few Well, we'll switch

1044
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: up a little bit of eight o'clock hour. We'll hit

1045
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 1: a check down here in a few minutes, then get

1046
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: to Joel for the rest of the segment. The six

1047
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: million dollar difference, James, and let's lay this out because

1048
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 1: I needed a reminder of it. I know you've written

1049
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: this in your stories. I would think our audience needs

1050
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: a reminder of it as well. Forty three million to

1051
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: pretty much retain Daniel Jones, no questions asked. I mean, no,

1052
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 1: one's giving up two first round picks for Daniel Jones, right, No, okay,

1053
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: So that's what the forty three million dollar non exclusive

1054
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: franchise tag would be. The thirty seven million dollar transition

1055
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: tag would allow for him to then negotiate with other teams.

1056
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: The Colts would Matt would have the ability to match.

1057
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 1: But if for some reason, let's say the Vikings didn't

1058
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: say here's fifty one million, and the Colts say here's

1059
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: a middle finger, then you don't get anything from a

1060
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: draft picks standpoint, right, if he were to join the

1061
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: if he were to join the Vikings. So we're talking

1062
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: a six million dollar difference to let him negotiate, that

1063
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: doesn't seem worth the squeeze. If you really believe in

1064
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, which that I mean. They have made it

1065
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: abundantly clear they believe in him guy. Their social media

1066
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: team acts like he's quarterback one for the next decade.

1067
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 3: I mean, I look at it like this, Kevin So,

1068
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 3: is six million dollars worth your peace of mind?

1069
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 2: Essentially?

1070
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 8: Right?

1071
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 1: I I mean, what did the cap just go up

1072
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: to three hundred and one million?

1073
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1074
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 1: Six million?

1075
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 3: I mean it's that's money that could be used on alars.

1076
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 3: But find that in the couch in West fifty sixth.

1077
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1078
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: I again, it sounds a ludic Mark'll.

1079
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,439
Speaker 2: Make couch and I'll try to, you know, get it done.

1080
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: Tell me, I'll be right there with you. Ludicrous to

1081
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: say that it's pocket change. But I understand what Mark

1082
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: is saying, Like, yeah, in the grand scheme of it.

1083
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,240
Speaker 3: It also, if you're saying, this is your franchise quarterback,

1084
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 3: you should be pocketing get four.

1085
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 5: Undred million dollars out of the gate. The six million

1086
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 5: should be nothing these days. And it also like saves

1087
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 5: you from kind of being slapping the face of Daniel Jones.

1088
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: And maybe Daniel Jones doesn't deserve that, Maybe his career

1089
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: the back of his baseball card says he doesn't.

1090
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 2: I was gonna say a lot of people would argue.

1091
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: That, right there are a lot of people, but one

1092
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: full season in his first seven. If you want this

1093
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 1: marriage to continue, to use your analogy from earlier, are

1094
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 1: you really is Mark committed? Are you Mark Dykeon really

1095
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: going to say to Ashley, Ashley, you know what, go

1096
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: walk out there and see what else you can find

1097
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: out there, and I'll just sit here on the couch

1098
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,720
Speaker 1: and watch the Bears.

1099
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, give me to July fifteenth to figure this out.

1100
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: I don't think she's coming back.

1101
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,959
Speaker 5: If that's don't think it's gonna end well for you, brother,

1102
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 5: I don't think so either.

1103
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: Let's check it out.

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Speaker 3: I'm just picturing a real quick Nora, my bff, looking

1110
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 3: at Ashley saying did dad lose his mind?

1111
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 5: And she's going yes, Oh, she was asking that question

1112
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 5: during the Bears Packer game.

1113
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: He might as well throw the ring out the sun

1114
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: roof like Michael Lovers of the old CD back in

1115
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: the day. All Right, four o'clock today. That is the

1116
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: tag deadline. We'll get an answer on whether the Colts

1117
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: have used it or not. Again. They can only use

1118
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: it on one of Daniel Jones and Alec Pierce, So

1119
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: that is the deadline to keep an eye on today.

1120
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: If you want to look back a couple of years ago,

1121
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 1: they didn't tag Michael Pittman Junior until three fifteen, So

1122
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 1: I would say I'll hold your bratt tell about four

1123
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,720
Speaker 1: o'clock for that. Juli Erickson will join us in five

1124
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: to discuss more about this from a hoop standpoint. Pacers

1125
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:08,919
Speaker 1: will have a practice today and then they are out

1126
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: west again. They have lost six straight. It will be

1127
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: their longest western trip of the year. It will be

1128
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:17,439
Speaker 1: Benedict Mountain. That will be worth staying up for tomorrow night, right, James.

1129
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 3: Oh yes, I mean there's a possibility that that Matherick

1130
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 3: get a.

1131
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: Little over the share up with the most. I'm bummed

1132
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: that Halliburton's not on the trip because I think him

1133
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: and Halliburton would engage a lot.

1134
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say I'm going with a sneaky one Andrew Nimhard.

1135
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 3: I think nim Hard a little bit more of a

1136
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 3: talker than we give him credit for.

1137
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 2: He's always same drafting a couple of scuffles.

1138
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 1: The supple Canadian boys yep, Nemhard status a little iffy again,

1139
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: the Pacers obviously siakam Nei Smith. None of them played

1140
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 1: the other night and still seems like a little bit

1141
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 1: away from a Viza Zubots. All Right, College basketball wise,

1142
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 1: our busy, busy day this week is tomorrow again Butler

1143
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: Creighton six o'clock at Hinkle, final home game of the

1144
00:53:56,239 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: year for the Bulldogs. JMVLB broadcasting live from forty ninth Street.

1145
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 1: I think he's actually gonna be indoors, but you catch

1146
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: my drift there. And then another double header between or

1147
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: with Indiana and Purdue, I should say, this time on

1148
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: Big ten Network. Indiana will get things started their senior night,

1149
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: and yeah, as crazy as that sounds, they've got the

1150
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: six seniors Lamar Wilkerson, Tucker Devreeze, Reed Bailey, Sam Alexis,

1151
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 1: Joe dirt Enright and Tayton Connorway. That will be a

1152
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: pre game down there in Bloomington. And again that's six

1153
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 1: thirty with Minnesota. Purdue has got a Northwestern team that's

1154
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: won three in a row that is at whatever they

1155
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: call that is it? So well, tryan up there, Mark,

1156
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 1: I believe that's correct. Yes, that is eight thirty for

1157
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: the Boilers and the Wildcats tomorrow. So busy college basketball

1158
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: coming up on Wednesday, miam Ohio. They'll try to get

1159
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 1: to thirty and oh tonight. Did you see their game

1160
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: winner the other day? By the way, Friday, I missed that.

1161
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 2: They're down at half.

1162
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: I think Pete Souter ed fouled out there and they

1163
00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: had a game winner at I want to say it

1164
00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 1: was Western Michigan. Maybe that was when Travis Steel was

1165
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: going nuts there, uh in whatever breaking the what did

1166
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: he break the speaker?

1167
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 2: Yes he did.

1168
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 3: That was very broken, that was but I guess he

1169
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 3: worked it, got a little juice for his team and

1170
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 3: they were able to hang on.

1171
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,280
Speaker 2: Mark ying Yang Twins.

1172
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: Is that a request? That was the Maddie is sending

1173
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: me the lyrics? Oh boy?

1174
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, the mad I'm sorry, we get that

1175
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 3: as a re entry.

1176
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: Sure at some point we can get.

1177
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 8: A little.

1178
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 1: I don't Oh was everybody when you were playing?

1179
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 2: Am I allowed to say all that on there? I

1180
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 2: don't know about it. I don't know about that. Man,

1181
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 2: He's our FCC airways.

1182
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: I mean, none of them are like the magic word.

1183
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 2: I haven't thought about the Ying Yang twins and forever.

1184
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 2: That is hilarious. I'm just picturing this moment. Oh boy, Yeah,

1185
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 2: my parents would have did the same thing.

1186
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: This might want to make James Boyd have kids, just

1187
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: so you know he can feel that rush of throwing

1188
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: the CD the old sun.

1189
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 2: I can't wait until I do the whole do it?

1190
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 2: Why because I say it?

1191
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 6: So?

1192
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 2: Oh, I can't wait. I can't wait. It's gonna be

1193
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:07,879
Speaker 2: a great time.

1194
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 8: I you.

1195
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 4: Indy.

1196
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,439
Speaker 1: Their season comes to a close last night they did,

1197
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: and I guess everybody it makes a Horizonly tournament will

1198
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: be out there on Monday, by the way up their

1199
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: court to have a coliseum, they'll have an extra day

1200
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 1: this year of action.

1201
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 2: Here in Indianapolis.

1202
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 1: They lost one on one ninety three last night to

1203
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: Cleveland State in that play in game, So next Sunday, Monday,

1204
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 1: Tuesday coming up, they will have games over there at

1205
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: the coliseum Big ESPN for their championship game that is

1206
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: Tuesday at seven o'clock for that Conference in Boys Sectional

1207
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: action coming up tonight, James Zville and Nobles Hille from

1208
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: the mill. I certainly have some fond memories of watching

1209
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon go off in the fourth quarter against Josh

1210
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 1: McRoberts and Carmel and Ben Myers and company. Ordon at

1211
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: twenty two maybe in the fourth quarter of that one. HC.

1212
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: Westfield shout out to Bobby, that'll be the second game

1213
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: up there at the mill Avon Brownsburg Washington Speedway, Lapel Frankton.

1214
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 1: Kind of locally, i'd say the busier night is tonight

1215
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 1: versus tomorrow. From a local action standpoint, we have joy Ericsson.

1216
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: Mark Let's head to the payless Lookers hotline right now.

1217
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: He is the cover of the Colts for the Annapolis

1218
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: Start is now standing job. Great to see him at

1219
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: the Combine last week.

1220
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 2: He is Joel a Ericson. Good morning, Joel, how.

1221
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: Are we doing good?

1222
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 8: Yeah? How are you guys doing over there?

1223
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: You care about the World Baseball Classic?

1224
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 2: Yep, it's gonna say another day ends? And why yes?

1225
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: Yes, Mark Kanna papoota earlier, Joel, I'm with you, though,

1226
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: I want to be.

1227
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 3: In it now.

1228
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 8: It's fun.

1229
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 6: I think I think some of the most fun is

1230
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 6: like some of the countries that don't play baseball as

1231
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 6: much in the in the pool play rounds when you

1232
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 6: get like, oh, I can't remember what country it was from,

1233
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 6: but it was like a guy who'd been a plumber

1234
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 6: his whole life and struck out show. Hey in a

1235
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 6: in a game last year or last time they did

1236
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 6: it like that. That's some of my favorite things. And

1237
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 6: then yeah, I mean when you get down to the

1238
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:13,919
Speaker 6: it kind of thinks that Japan has an advantage because

1239
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 6: they're in the middle of their season, but yeah, it's

1240
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 6: fun to watch.

1241
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: Hey, you hear that Mark the plumber from Italy striking out? Show? Hey, Otani?

1242
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: Can you not get behind that? Sure? I can get

1243
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: behind it.

1244
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 5: I just see, haven't gotten my base bus swerve on

1245
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 5: you because the Cubs games have like not been broadcast,

1246
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 5: so you know, I'll get my baseball swerve on though.

1247
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: A baseball swerve I do kind of like that there. Yeah,

1248
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: I mean we've got yeah, we got the wild countries

1249
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: here that now that I'm looking up, okay, Joel, I'll

1250
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: throw it like I throw to James a little bit

1251
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: earlier here three fifty nine occurs. Today they're equally as

1252
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: far away on extensions for Daniel Jones and Alec Pierce,

1253
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: they tag who.

1254
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, the last I was able to glean it sounded

1255
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 6: like it was probably going to be Jones and then

1256
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 6: pivot to Peers. But I felt very very fluid yesterday,

1257
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 6: and it felt very fluid yesterday, and it was it

1258
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 6: was hard to keep track of, you know, what was

1259
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 6: gonna happen over the next twenty four hours.

1260
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: Joel.

1261
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 3: I read your story this morning on the transition tag.

1262
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 3: First of all, finding the last thing they did it

1263
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 3: was in nineteen ninety eight was hilarious because I was

1264
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 3: thinking that such an.

1265
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 2: Odd tag to begin with.

1266
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 3: But for those who are maybe like, why don't they

1267
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 3: just use the non exclusive tag that has the draft

1268
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 3: rights with it?

1269
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 2: Why the transition tag? Why do you do you?

1270
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 3: Why do you think that is even an option to

1271
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 3: consider for the Colt and Daniel Jones?

1272
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 6: I think I think that that you know, usually when

1273
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 6: when a team uses a tag, and someone said this

1274
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 6: to me last week, who would know about these sorts

1275
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 6: of things? Someone said, usually, you know, when a team

1276
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 6: uses the tag, that kind of sets the floor for

1277
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 6: the average annial value you get on the long term deal,

1278
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 6: which you know, maybe over one year five million. Doesn't

1279
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 6: seem like that much. But over over three or four

1280
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 6: that starts to really add up in terms of guaranteed money,

1281
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 6: that kind of thing. And so that's that's a big

1282
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 6: part of it is maybe you maybe you can do

1283
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 6: it a little bit lower. The other thing is with Jones,

1284
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 6: you'd be it's a risk, but you're betting that there's

1285
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 6: not another team. There's not another team there that's going

1286
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 6: to want to pay that to somebody coming off of

1287
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 6: the Achilles tendon tear. But it I mean, if they

1288
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 6: did that, it would be a risk. It would be

1289
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 6: a risk to tag Jones of the transition tag because

1290
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 6: someone structures a contract in a way that you don't

1291
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 6: like and the next thing you know, the next thing

1292
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 6: you know, you're you're dealing with a contract that you

1293
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 6: don't want.

1294
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 4: He is Joel A.

1295
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: Rickson from an apisar. He's with us here on the

1296
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: payloffs Slookers hotline. Joel. Hear me out for a second here,

1297
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, Alec Pierce, Trey Hendrickson. If I told you

1298
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 1: that the over under was set on two and a

1299
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 1: half of those three being in a colts uniform come September,

1300
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: you would say what and your confidence level would be what.

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Speaker 6: I think I would take the over, but my confidence

1302
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 6: level would be low, just because just because you don't know,

1303
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 6: like once you get to free agency, I still just

1304
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 6: don't think that there's anything that they have to have.

1305
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 6: Jones and Peers, like Ballard has said that, you know,

1306
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 6: point blank to us last week, and then the Hendrickson

1307
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 6: thing just makes too much sense. It feels like the

1308
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 6: Justin Houston deal, which obviously worked out pretty good for

1309
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 6: the Colts, and obviously he knows lou Ana Rumo. There

1310
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 6: was some question about his value last year, so I

1311
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 6: wonder if he's going to have the insane free agent market.

1312
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 6: But it's free agency, and I don't know if somebody

1313
01:01:58,280 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 6: else wants to do something.

1314
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 3: Joel Sarah here, we have some co stars in the

1315
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 3: back as well, so you might want to, you know,

1316
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 3: just make sure that you're following all the child labor

1317
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 3: laws out there. But when it comes to looking at

1318
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 3: what Alec Peiris has done, is there any trepidation on

1319
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 3: your end to paying him big money? I know that

1320
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,919
Speaker 3: is what will likely happen, But one year of one

1321
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 3: thousand yard production, where do you stand on his possibility

1322
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 3: of being your true number one receiver? Especially if Alec

1323
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, not Alex if Michael Pittman Junior is no

1324
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 3: longer on this roster.

1325
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the biggest thing with Pierce is how rare,

1326
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:42,919
Speaker 6: how rare he is in today's game. And that's that's

1327
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:44,959
Speaker 6: the thing that's gonna get that's gonna get him paid.

1328
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 6: That's why if he got to the open market, he'd

1329
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 6: be getting huge money. It is because this is a

1330
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 6: this is a league where everyone plays too high safety.

1331
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 6: Everyone is trying to take away the big play. The

1332
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 6: they're actually pretty good at it. We don't have the

1333
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 6: big plays anywhere near as much as we did even

1334
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 6: you know when Patrick Mahomes started playing with the Chiefs

1335
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 6: in twenty eighteen. And the thing that Pierce can do

1336
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 6: is something that most receivers can't get you, which is

1337
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 6: everyone in the stadium knows he's getting he's going deep

1338
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 6: and he still gets there. And what that does for

1339
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,479
Speaker 6: your offense, what that does for opening up the things

1340
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:25,479
Speaker 6: for everybody else, is so valuable that I think that's

1341
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 6: why he's going to get paid the big money because

1342
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 6: some of his impact goes kind of beyond catches and

1343
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 6: it just goes to you can't play up on the

1344
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 6: on the team that has Alec.

1345
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 1: Pierce and Joel a. Erickson's with us here from the

1346
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Star, Joe, biggest thing you learned from the combine

1347
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: non Jones Pierce related.

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Speaker 6: Uh, you know, my biggest takeaway is and this really

1349
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 6: isn't anything that we weren't expecting. But I just had

1350
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 6: several people tell me, you know, the Colts, the Coults

1351
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 6: are are gonna going.

1352
01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: To sign a d end think they got to have

1353
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 1: at the end, and describe that in a baseball analogy

1354
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,919
Speaker 1: single double, triple home run in terms of the type

1355
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 1: of DM that you think, I.

1356
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 2: Mean, they need a home run the end.

1357
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 6: I've looked at the free agent market. If you get

1358
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 6: a healthy Hendrickson, that's probably your best shot. Some of

1359
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 6: those other guys are more of Like even even Jalen

1360
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 6: Phillips to me, is a guy that is you're hoping

1361
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 6: for a little bit more than he's produced so far

1362
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 6: in his career. But but the thing about it is like,

1363
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 6: that's that's what this team needs more than anything. If

1364
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 6: you if you think back to last year, with a

1365
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 6: healthy de Forrest Buttoner in the lineup, the Colts had

1366
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 6: twenty six sacks in eight games, and without him they

1367
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 6: had thirteen sacks in without him being healthy because he

1368
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 6: played against San Francisco, they had thirteen sacks in nine games.

1369
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 6: And the pressure just fell off of a table. And

1370
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 6: I know, you know, the the idea was, you get

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01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 6: Sauce Gardner, you put those corners in there, and it

1372
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 6: gives them more time. And I think to some degree,

1373
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 6: to some degree, that can work. But even in that

1374
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 6: Chiefs game, they just didn't have enough pressure on Mahomes

1375
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 6: to avoid those guys having to face ninety something plays.

1376
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 6: And even if you have, honestly, even if you have

1377
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 6: prime Dion Sanders, I think if he faces ninety five plays,

1378
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 6: he's going to start giving up some catches so that

1379
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 6: they have to get pass rush. And it's got to

1380
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 6: be somebody who opposing teams have to game plan for.

1381
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:31,439
Speaker 6: I think that's what we saw when Buckner was out.

1382
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 6: There was nobody that made it. Opposing offensive coordinator kind

1383
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 6: of shake and worry and stay up at night in

1384
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 6: terms of who we had to protect.

1385
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 3: Again, we're talking to joy ericson could supporter for Indie Starr,

1386
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 3: very buttoned up on social media, but has the loudest

1387
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 3: laugh in the media room or none. A lot of

1388
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 3: good times Joel last one on my end, Anthony Richardson

1389
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 3: Senior and the Colts have come to an agreement to

1390
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 3: allow him to seek a trade, try to foster a

1391
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:03,439
Speaker 3: trade for him.

1392
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 2: How did we get here? Big picture question? I know,

1393
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 2: But for those who might be.

1394
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 3: For example, in a different market and don't really understand

1395
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,959
Speaker 3: why this happened. When I look at the blame Joe,

1396
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 3: who are you pointing the finger or fingers at well?

1397
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 6: I I really think it starts with the pick, and

1398
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 6: I understand all of the all of the factors involved.

1399
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 6: Jim Mersey wanted the young quarterback. The Colts had the

1400
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 6: number four pick. It's the highest, the highest pick, the

1401
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 6: easiest one. They've had a chance to get a quarterback.

1402
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 6: But you know, Chris Ballard always told us, you know,

1403
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 6: I'm not going to take one just to take what

1404
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 6: it has to be the right one. And if you

1405
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 6: go back to you know, that draft year and this

1406
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 6: time of year before we got to you know, before

1407
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 6: Carolina had traded into the first pick, and the culture

1408
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 6: is still talking about what they wanted. Chris Ballard was

1409
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 6: saying he wanted accuracy in a quarterback Shane Stikeen was

1410
01:06:56,560 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 6: saying he wanted obsession and I've go I'm back and

1411
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 6: looked and after really right around the owners meetings is

1412
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 6: when they met with Richardson for the first time. By

1413
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 6: that point, Carolina has number one, Houston has number two.

1414
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:12,919
Speaker 2: And if you go look at.

1415
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,439
Speaker 6: Some of the things they said that, we have those

1416
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:18,919
Speaker 6: questions and they kind of back off of the act.

1417
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 6: You know, they can teach it. You we think you

1418
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 6: can teach accuracy. We think you can teach obsession. And

1419
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 6: it just it's set up as a bad fit from

1420
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 6: the start. And what do you do if you don't

1421
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 6: pick him, you know, you maybe you take Devin Waiterspoon.

1422
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 6: And people are probably very upset about that, and and

1423
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 6: there really wasn't any quarterback left in that class to take.

1424
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 6: But I really think it starts with the pick. They

1425
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 6: were a poor fit together, Shane Steiken and Anthony Richardson

1426
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 6: from the start, and and so everything that's happened after

1427
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,919
Speaker 6: that can kind of be explained by, you know, it's

1428
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 6: a poor fit. They don't they don't, they don't work

1429
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 6: well together. Stikeen was used to guys who played a

1430
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 6: lot of football, even the rookies. He'd had Jalen Hurts

1431
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 6: and Justin Herbert had played a ton of football at

1432
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 6: the collegiate level. That's what he was used to, and

1433
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 6: instead he got somebody who really didn't know had had

1434
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 6: only played one year at the major college level, didn't

1435
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 6: really know how a quarterback is supposed to handle himself,

1436
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 6: that kind of thing, and that that just made it.

1437
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 6: It made for a really bad fit because Stikeen's the

1438
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 6: way Stikeen sees it, because of the way Stikeen sees football.

1439
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 1: Joel last last one. Any thought that Carly ars Gordon

1440
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 1: is thinking to herself, Chris Ballard, year in a contract,

1441
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 1: year you're not under you know contract, I guess past

1442
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. Therefore, I don't want Daniel Jones money

1443
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 1: going into the years of twenty seven, twenty eight, potentially longer.

1444
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 8: I don't.

1445
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 6: I don't think so, because they still don't have a

1446
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 6: first round pick next year as a result of the

1447
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 6: Sauce Gardner trade. So I think, I think, if you

1448
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 6: you signed Jones here, you know you figure, at at

1449
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 6: the worst we have someone who can handle the job

1450
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 6: like a bridge quarterback until we have a pick again,

1451
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 6: that that matters, and also it just for where they

1452
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 6: are now, it's just really the best chance for them

1453
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 6: to have any kind of quarterback play going forward. I

1454
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 6: know people have mentioned, you know some of the other

1455
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 6: guys on the market, Well, some of those guys have

1456
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 6: the same concerns, Like if you go get Kyler Murray,

1457
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 6: he has you know, he had to have something written

1458
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 6: into his contract about preparation.

1459
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a great fit with sh video games.

1460
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 2: Could you imagine him being paired with Shane Stikeen?

1461
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 6: Oh my god, that doesn't that doesn't seem like a

1462
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:54,679
Speaker 6: good fit for Shane Styken. You know, I've seen something

1463
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 6: people mentioned, well if the Dolphins released too, well, that's

1464
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 6: to me is the same Daniel Jones situation. I think too.

1465
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 6: It probably wants more than one year. He's got worse

1466
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 6: injury risk in my opinion, to Tunga Voloa does and so.

1467
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:13,719
Speaker 6: And then obviously in the draft, everything we heard last

1468
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 6: week from everybody was Fredandermandez is going one who knows

1469
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 6: where the next.

1470
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 1: Quarterback comes off the board.

1471
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 6: That's even worse than the Anthony year in terms of

1472
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 6: that's even worse than twenty twenty three in terms of

1473
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 6: you know how the NFL regards these quarterbacks, so there's

1474
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 6: just there's just not a an avenue to get one.

1475
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 6: And I think that's I think that's like kind of

1476
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 6: the reality of the situation. And then the other thing is,

1477
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 6: and I think this has gotten lost in some corners

1478
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,719
Speaker 6: of maybe the Internet, some corners of the city, depending,

1479
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 6: the Colts really like Daniel Jones. They really believe in

1480
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 6: what Daniel Jones did in the first ten games before

1481
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 6: he got hurt, and and really believe that this is

1482
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 6: their their their shot at having a long term option.

1483
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:03,679
Speaker 6: I think, you know, the injury question is is very

1484
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,600
Speaker 6: fair and even you know, they even Chris Ballard and

1485
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 6: Shane Stiken have had to acknowledge, yes, he's been hurt

1486
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 6: a lot, but in terms of the play and the

1487
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 6: way he like he played for them last year, the

1488
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 6: Colts really really believe in Daniel Jones. Now we'll find

1489
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 6: out if that faith is in the right spot or

1490
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 6: the wrong spot, but they they absolutely believe that Daniel

1491
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 6: Jones can be that kind of player again for a

1492
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 6: full season, and that's why they want to recite him.

1493
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 1: So if you really like him, six million difference with

1494
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 1: the transition tag really that much money. It's a thought.

1495
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 1: I continue to have Joel a Ericson. He actually likes

1496
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 1: the World Baseball Classic because he's a sports fan. I'm

1497
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 1: like Mark Dyton, Joel as always. Thank you, Sarah. I

1498
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:48,679
Speaker 1: know you're juggling a lot this morning.

1499
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 6: I'm I'm I'm excited about it. Did the Brewers played

1500
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 6: Great Britain in in a friendly today?

1501
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna pay attention. How about that? Mark, Great

1502
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 1: Britain Brewers friendly? If that it's not a Tuesday, I don't.

1503
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 5: Know what is Swing the stick and traw tech out

1504
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 5: these Brewers?

1505
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 8: Pretty good?

1506
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 1: I was afterwards. That was pretty good. He's got a

1507
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 1: good saving, He's got a really good bellow. Check yeah,

1508
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 1: yeah he does, he does, Joel.

1509
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 2: Thank you you bet guys.

1510
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 1: Swing this so haled the Queen, you'll see it.

1511
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 2: How is he like this?

1512
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 1: How good is that? A? And then how good is

1513
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 1: that that? Joeli Rickson is literally ready for Brewers Great

1514
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 1: Britain baseball.

1515
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 3: He's a psycho, you know that, on freaking dedicated love

1516
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 3: him all right, We're gonna get in the mind of

1517
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 3: Mark Dykon at some point here We'll be back.

1518
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 2: How you doing, Love.

1519
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:49,440
Speaker 4: Mamma lea me whispying.

1520
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 8: My life.

1521
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:54,759
Speaker 9: You were listening to the Van Morning Show on Sports

1522
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 9: Radio ninety three five and one.

1523
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:02,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, your names, Yeah, Maddy, I might be Pops on

1524
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 3: this one.

1525
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Mark excellent, excellent, excellent.

1526
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 2: I really hope Maddie's dropped.

1527
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 3: Stupid and weird that song is, but boy, it was

1528
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 3: a hit. I can't hate on it again. I respect

1529
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 3: the Whisper song. I respected burn CD for Maddie Lovers

1530
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 3: back in the day. Mike Lovers heard that lyric lyrics.

1531
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 1: I should say if Mark continue to play the song

1532
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 1: and that CD was in a different stratusfy, yeah, this

1533
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 1: song I forgot was in existence, and I'm like, oh man, between.

1534
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 5: Get lo this song, Oh yeah, we were in some

1535
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 5: wild times in the early aughts.

1536
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 1: You imagine the release of energy though, as apparent when

1537
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 1: you chuck the CD out of the car. I mean,

1538
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 1: that's gotta be one of the more thrilling my life.

1539
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 1: You're listening to this exactly. There's not a lot of

1540
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 1: thrilling moments. I feel like that you're gonna.

1541
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 3: Have, necessarily, how many moments even have like that, because one,

1542
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 3: you don't want to throw anything you could actually want

1543
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 3: did you pay good money for?

1544
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 2: But CDs, I guess are following that category. But now

1545
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 2: you can't do that.

1546
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 3: If your kid plays a song you don't like you,

1547
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 3: you're not throwing the iPhone.

1548
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 1: You got to delete Spotify it's canceled. Yeah, right right, yeah.

1549
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 3: It's like when people talk about having a flip phone,

1550
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 3: and it's like, you one of the greatest things about

1551
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 3: the flip phones that you hung up on somebody. You

1552
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 3: got to just oh close it, yeah, slap that. Than

1553
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 3: now it's like you just hit the red button. This

1554
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 3: fags hard as you can. But that didn't have the

1555
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 3: same effect.

1556
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 2: No, certainly does not.

1557
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 1: This from Phil Mark should be cast in the next

1558
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 1: season of Ridgerton. That excellent British accent Mark Dyton for

1559
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 1: the World Baseball Classic.

1560
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 5: Ashley's watching that show and I'm like, what is going

1561
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 5: on here? And I walked in as a good lord.

1562
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 5: I'm like this smut, what are you watching here?

1563
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 1: Tucker Bartnenhardt's been listening. He doesn't appreciate your World Baseball

1564
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 1: Classic takes again.

1565
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 5: I would like to get my baseball swerve on. I

1566
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 5: just haven't been able to watch any spring training games

1567
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 5: so far. I would like to watch some baseball.

1568
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 2: Well, neglector responsibility doesn't get it done.

1569
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,679
Speaker 5: Well, you know what, children, we're not going to park today.

1570
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:01,879
Speaker 5: We're gonna watch some baseball.

1571
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 2: Sit down, we'll.

1572
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 1: Get into I gotta know with Mark Darton, you're coming

1573
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 1: up on the other side. A question I want to

1574
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 1: have for Tony East here. He's going to join us

1575
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 1: at nine James. They haven't had Tony on in a while.

1576
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 2: I think he is starting to transition a little bit more.

1577
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 1: To the draft. Are the Pacers in a position to

1578
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 1: draft Aaron Peterson?

1579
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 2: And good question.

1580
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 1: I don't mean that from a numerical standpoint of where

1581
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,719
Speaker 1: they appear in the lottery, but the Pacers are, unlike

1582
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 1: any other franchise that will be drafting somewhat high. Let's

1583
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 1: play out the hypothetical. Assuming they are. Are they in

1584
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 1: a position to draft a player like him, an off

1585
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 1: the court story like him? You know, they are in

1586
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 1: a position where seemingly they don't need that player to

1587
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 1: come in and be the side of the building guy

1588
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:50,599
Speaker 1: for you.

1589
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 2: Not right away at least.

1590
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 1: So I think that's a debate I've had with myself

1591
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 1: of like you watched Cameron Boozer last night, and you're

1592
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 1: like that dude could go get buckets on an NBA

1593
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:03,679
Speaker 1: playoff team off the bench right now. Yeah, yeah, that

1594
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 1: would seemingly be what the pacers need, like if you're

1595
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 1: trying to strengthen your bench. Okay, Boozer makes a lot

1596
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 1: of sense. But then it's like, wait a minute, if

1597
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:14,759
Speaker 1: you don't need to put Darren Peterson into a thirty

1598
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 1: minute night right away? And you can say, you know

1599
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 1: what learn under Tyres Halliburton, learn under Pascal Siakam. Now

1600
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 1: does a nineteen year old individual start to mature over

1601
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 1: three or four years. It's a debate that I've really

1602
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 1: had a lot with myself here over the last couple

1603
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 1: of weeks or so.

1604
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 2: I want to throw at Tony's away. I'll say this

1605
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 2: real quick.

1606
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 3: Anybody i'm drafting in the top four, if I get

1607
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 3: that pick, it's starting. I'm not drafting you to come

1608
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 3: off the bench.

1609
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 1: So Aarony Smith's the bench.

1610
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 3: Somebody's going to the bench. I'm right away if I'm drafting,

1611
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 3: and it's yeah, I probably would.

1612
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:50,639
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1613
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:52,520
Speaker 2: In my opinion, I think you need to be interesting.

1614
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 1: I think I understand where you're coming from, but I

1615
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 1: think you see a lot of top four picks that

1616
01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:00,080
Speaker 1: walk into the NBA and they don't right away, they

1617
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,440
Speaker 1: don't deserve a start on the team that has championship aspirations.

1618
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 2: That's a good point you make. Yeah, Yeah, I think

1619
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,640
Speaker 2: you Yeah, I think you make it kind of like

1620
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 2: Matheren was starting.

1621
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 3: Yeahlarily like thought about them being whole again.

1622
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 1: I mean zubots obviously for Turner and then you have

1623
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 1: your started.

1624
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:19,799
Speaker 3: That might be an argument if you're in that position,

1625
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:21,679
Speaker 3: if you do have the number one pick, let's say,

1626
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 3: and to see, okay, do we.

1627
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 2: Choose a guy who plays more of that win.

1628
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 1: The Pacers are just unlike most, if not all, of

1629
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 1: those teams.

1630
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's kind of an anomaly year where I mean,

1631
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:34,759
Speaker 3: to be fair, had Halliburton still been out and everyone

1632
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 3: else stayed healthy, we might be looking at them as saying, Okay,

1633
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 3: are they in the playing right now or are they

1634
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 3: trying to get into the playoffs? Because I do think

1635
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 3: even without Halliburton, the Pacers are a good team, not

1636
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 3: a great team, but they would not be this bad

1637
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 3: by any means. It was a litany of injuries that

1638
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 3: have really decimated this season and put them in position

1639
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 3: kind of in a weird roundabout way. Maybe the basketball

1640
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 3: guards are rewarding them, perhaps to have a top four pick.

1641
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 1: Mark Dyton, I got a no time On the other side.

1642
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:05,560
Speaker 1: This is the fan morning Show of Kevin Bowe and

1643
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 1: James Boyd. Here on a Tuesday, we'll talk some pacers.

1644
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 1: Tony East coming up here in about ten minutes. Mark

1645
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 1: Dyton Lowe, Let's get into the mind. I got a

1646
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 1: no time with Mark.

1647
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:24,440
Speaker 4: He's got questions. How about a game? They have got answers.

1648
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 4: I'm more of a you know, a corn hoole man myself.

1649
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 9: Sports music, movies, what credit, high fashion.

1650
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 8: Beat hantsl so hot right now.

1651
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 4: And everything in between. You ever seen a foot with

1652
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 4: four toes each time to get a glimpse into the

1653
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 4: mind of Mark Dyton, stop that you're scaring me each

1654
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 4: time for I gotta know, Okay, you do punk.

1655
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:48,599
Speaker 2: I want a good clean fight.

1656
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 1: Let's get it on our boys.

1657
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:55,679
Speaker 5: Lots of cults discussion today. Let's keep it that way.

1658
01:18:56,640 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 5: Let's say the Colts do lose Daniel Jones, they pivot

1659
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 5: to who at quarterback?

1660
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:06,640
Speaker 3: Boy, I'm gonna say maligue Willis. That would be the

1661
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 3: best case scenario, although you'd be paying some big money

1662
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 3: for him too.

1663
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 1: At that point, I'd rather than just beg for Anthony

1664
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:14,560
Speaker 1: Richison to come back, might as well play it out.

1665
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 2: It is true he's very caught the effect the.

1666
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:19,720
Speaker 1: Time, but like losing the girlfriend then trying to win

1667
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 1: her back. Hey, that's a sad reality of where you're at.

1668
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 2: I don't like Pardner minche I.

1669
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 8: I don't know.

1670
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 2: Part of me would rather see Leonard at that point,

1671
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 2: trade for Jamis Winston. I need some comedy.

1672
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying I want some Jamis. To see him do

1673
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 1: the green flag at the Saint Pete Race this weekend.

1674
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 2: He was going nuts pre Racee Jamis.

1675
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh absolutely, Dennis Hauger, I mean that.

1676
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 2: That was fits man I want.

1677
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 5: Before before Daniel Jones, I was like, you know, you

1678
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:48,759
Speaker 5: want some life in the locker room, some interesting quotes.

1679
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:51,759
Speaker 5: Bring Jamison here, might not. It'll be a wild ride

1680
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 5: for sure. You also get some fun press conferences.

1681
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 1: Call Phil Rivers.

1682
01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, all right?

1683
01:19:58,160 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 1: I had enough of that. That's where I draw the line,

1684
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:02,799
Speaker 1: all right, the abuse.

1685
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 5: If the Colts do find a way to keep both

1686
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 5: Jones and Alec Pierce long term contracts, look like what

1687
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 5: for them?

1688
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 1: In your eyes?

1689
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good question.

1690
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 1: Oh a Jones. I've said, I think you've got to

1691
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 1: have the guarantees in those first two years smatch the

1692
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 1: lack of the first round picks you have. You know,

1693
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 1: are you getting whatever three years north of probably one

1694
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 1: hundred million on that m You know, Pierce, I think

1695
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 1: we'll sniff right around thirty million a year from an

1696
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 1: annual standpoint, And that means that Michael Pittman Junior of

1697
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 1: course restructure has to occur.

1698
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:36,639
Speaker 6: Uh.

1699
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, I would say, you know, Pierce, what is

1700
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 1: he James twenty five twenty six? Yeah, it gonna be

1701
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 1: twenty six in May. So I'll probably go maybe three

1702
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 1: for eighty hopefully. Now again, how does Pierce in his

1703
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:49,799
Speaker 1: camp want it? Do they want the three and potentially

1704
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 1: hit the open market again like Terry McLaurin, like Michael

1705
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 1: Pittman Jr. Or do they say, hey, let's really try

1706
01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 1: and you know, cash in now with you know whatever

1707
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 1: more of a four year deal. So yeah, I would say,

1708
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:07,879
Speaker 1: you know, Jones, Minnesota is just that one with Jones,

1709
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:09,680
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, you know, how much are they

1710
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 1: seriously the one pushing up this price? Yeah?

1711
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:15,560
Speaker 3: And they have to do a lot of contract restructuring

1712
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 3: on their end to get under the cap. I think

1713
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:19,760
Speaker 3: to even afford Daniel Jones. But ever put a number

1714
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:23,680
Speaker 3: out there for Daniel maybe three years. I don't know,

1715
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 3: one to ten. I don't know what the guarantees are

1716
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 3: on that, but somewhere in that range. Mark boy, all right, last,

1717
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:32,719
Speaker 3: I know it's crazy, but hey, I mean he has leverage.

1718
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:34,599
Speaker 2: You have no backup plan, all right.

1719
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 5: More likely the Colts find a long way to keep

1720
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 5: Daniel Jones and Alt Pierce long term together, or the

1721
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 5: Pacers keep their first round pick.

1722
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 2: So you're, oh, just like a coin flip essentially, hmmm.

1723
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 1: I I still I think the Colts would be caught

1724
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:54,679
Speaker 1: with their pants down if they can't bring back Jones

1725
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 1: and Peers. I mean that's what again, You ran it

1726
01:21:57,920 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 1: back because you believed in the first two months of

1727
01:21:59,920 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 1: the season, point blank. And if you're not willing to

1728
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 1: pay for that, then why the hell you running a back?

1729
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 1: So I just you know, when it comes to Pacers,

1730
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:11,680
Speaker 1: it's out of their control. I mean, it is a

1731
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 1: coin flip. I mean, I don't want to act like

1732
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 1: the cults are in full control here, but it's not

1733
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 1: like Pearson Jones hated their time here, right, or don't

1734
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 1: want any part of being here. I don't get that

1735
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:27,639
Speaker 1: impression at all. So I will say the Colts more

1736
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 1: just because they're in a camp of like they have

1737
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 1: to get it done, whereas the Pacers, even if the

1738
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 1: Pacers are the worst record in the league, it's still

1739
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 1: just what a fifty two chance you keep a top

1740
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:36,519
Speaker 1: four pick.

1741
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm probably rolling with that, thinking Mark sciting with

1742
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:46,799
Speaker 3: Kevin because the Colts still have some semblance of control,

1743
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 3: I guess, and the Pacers are kind of at the

1744
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 3: mercy of the ping pong balls.

1745
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:53,599
Speaker 5: I also think the Pacers are, you know, they would

1746
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 5: like to keep their first round pick, but if they

1747
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 5: lose it, they're like, well we got zubats.

1748
01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 3: So yeah, they're not like devastating here. They got something, all.

1749
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:04,439
Speaker 5: Right, Something you want to do that probably not a

1750
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:06,800
Speaker 5: lot of others want to, Like, is there something you're

1751
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 5: like I wish I could do that? Like, I'll let

1752
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 5: you guys think about it for a second. I want

1753
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 5: to do jury duty. I've never been asked, I've never

1754
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 5: been gotten got anything in the letter. I would like

1755
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 5: to do a jury duty at some point, just because

1756
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:18,599
Speaker 5: I'm just got this weird.

1757
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1758
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 5: I just want to do it, and I think it's

1759
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 5: because I want it so badly, is why I haven't

1760
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 5: gotten it, and like other people that don't want it

1761
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 5: have gotten all the time.

1762
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 1: That's the most Jake Querry thing you've ever know. I

1763
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 1: want to do jury duty. Remember when I summoned me?

1764
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 1: Remember when I was summoned for like ninety minutes. Last

1765
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 1: was the last year. I was extremely jealous of you.

1766
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1767
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 1: Wait, that's a good one, Mark, I need to give

1768
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 1: some thoughts to that. I want to say I got

1769
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:42,280
Speaker 1: jury dude. Remember I got called in, I'd leave the

1770
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 1: show and I came back the same day. They didn't

1771
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:44,719
Speaker 1: need me, Mark.

1772
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 5: I will say, like, I'm jealous of both of you

1773
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 5: guys because of that situation.

1774
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 1: Once I got in the room, I was kind of like,

1775
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:52,719
Speaker 1: let's go. I was like kind of dreading it until

1776
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:54,639
Speaker 1: I got in. Then I'm like, all right, let's let's

1777
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 1: do it. I want to be sequestered. Come on, this

1778
01:23:57,040 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 1: is my civic duty. Oh my god, gosh, I'm gonna say, wait,

1779
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:02,639
Speaker 1: is that Mark Sanchez coming back?

1780
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, he's in the courtroom here.

1781
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 1: I am play dumb. I don't know who you are, sir.

1782
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 2: I think that I would.

1783
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 3: Honestly, it's probably still a dream when when I get older,

1784
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 3: I want to be the guy, the old guy who

1785
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:17,679
Speaker 3: retires and keeps the book at the local high school.

1786
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 2: I would love that.

1787
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 3: I feel like I would enjoy my Tuesdays, Thursdays and Friday,

1788
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 3: whatever day they play on, and I would I will

1789
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:27,719
Speaker 3: keep that book so well, oh boy, it'd be great.

1790
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of playing off that. Yeah, I don't know why,

1791
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 1: but James dallis playing to the old retirement seat in

1792
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 1: my brain wherever, like we do retire, I want to

1793
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 1: become the big time fan of the local team. Yeah,

1794
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 1: and I don't know what that local team is. I

1795
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 1: don't know if it's a high school. I don't know

1796
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 1: if it's a college team. But like, I want to

1797
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 1: be the one that's like at every single game. Like

1798
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm watching Cleveland State, I you Indy last night and

1799
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 1: there's eighty seven people in the building. Yeah, and they

1800
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 1: panted the crowd and four of them look like they

1801
01:24:58,160 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 1: might be eighty seven years old.

1802
01:24:59,280 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 2: I want to be.

1803
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 1: Them, you know, to be the sister Jean of that program.

1804
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 1: I want to be like you go to a Butler game.

1805
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 1: At times you see some people kind of whatever. First second,

1806
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 1: I'm like they've probably lived in like the Butler area

1807
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 1: for like forty years, and like this is now their

1808
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 1: thing and they circle all these games on the calendar. Yeah,

1809
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:16,200
Speaker 1: it gets life or death. Yeah, the same thing for breakfast.

1810
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:16,639
Speaker 2: Every day.

1811
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 1: You're wearing your school colors, ready to go. All of

1812
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:20,799
Speaker 1: it count Now, you know it's a good line. Gates

1813
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 1: open ninety minutes before and I'm the one opening the gate,

1814
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:26,600
Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, James, I could I get behind that.

1815
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 5: I'm telling you I will keep the best ats the

1816
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 5: varsity players wheel you in.

1817
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 1: You're the old man. We got to that old man Kevin,

1818
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 1: and he's been for fifty years.

1819
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:38,760
Speaker 3: They're always like, especially when teams go to State. You

1820
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 3: read about these stories Andy Starr and other places, and

1821
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 3: it's like this guy hasn't missed right a basketball game

1822
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 3: in thirty years. The only one he ever misses when

1823
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 3: the blizzard of nineteen eighty nine came in.

1824
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 2: And it's like they're so dedicated to it. I want

1825
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:50,840
Speaker 2: to be that guy.

1826
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:52,679
Speaker 5: And even then he was still knocking on the door

1827
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 5: because he walk that far all right, what are what

1828
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 5: are we watching lately?

1829
01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 1: One thing I dialed up the other day and Todd

1830
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 1: Meyer shout out to him, him one of our colleagues

1831
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 1: here in david Wood. They kind of suggested for me.

1832
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 1: I watched Soul Power on Amazon Prime, the ABA documentary,

1833
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 1: and my dad always told me a ton of stories

1834
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 1: about the ABA, And you know, obviously, I think are

1835
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 1: in this market, you do get a glimpse of like

1836
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 1: how big the Pacers were. I didn't fully realize it,

1837
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 1: honestly till watching it. I mean, the Pacers were huge,

1838
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 1: and the uniqueness to their team and slick leading it,

1839
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 1: I think was also something I was really enlightening. So

1840
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 1: that's on Amazon Prime for the ABA ors out there

1841
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 1: that want to learn a little bit more about that

1842
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 1: four episodes, I believe for Soul Power.

1843
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:38,360
Speaker 3: When I went to the girls State finals, I'm looking

1844
01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:40,599
Speaker 3: up at the Raptors and I always laugh because it's

1845
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 3: Bobby Leonard on his banner, when really whoever called him

1846
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 3: Bobby besides like maybe his wife or his mom or something.

1847
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:52,880
Speaker 3: Episodes and exactly so for me, I'll been rewatching Game

1848
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 3: of Thrones. I'm almost done with season one again and

1849
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:59,679
Speaker 3: I just enjoy how great that show was at the beginning.

1850
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 3: And I think next up on the docket a season

1851
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 3: two of Paradise on Hulu.

1852
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:07,720
Speaker 2: I really enjoy season one, so that's what I'm watching. Mark.

1853
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:09,680
Speaker 1: We watched episode one of that over the weekend. Very

1854
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 1: very good, locked.

1855
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 2: Back, very good deadline, I'll have some freedom.

1856
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:16,600
Speaker 5: I would say Paradise season two is one. Also the

1857
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:18,880
Speaker 5: return of Scrubs, one of my all time favorite shows.

1858
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 5: The first two episodes premiered last week. They were excellent.

1859
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 5: Highly recommend that. And then fear Factor if you want

1860
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 5: to get a little reality TV show. Boy, that brought

1861
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 5: me back to the early aughts as well. Same with

1862
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 5: the Ying Yang Twins, but some fear Factor. Fear Factor

1863
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 5: in years we are locked in on. Fear Factor was

1864
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:38,200
Speaker 5: the show. Yeah, Johnny Knoxville is the host now. It

1865
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 5: is awesome.

1866
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 1: I would watch that as well. Mark Dyke didn't great work.

1867
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 1: Will continue to keep you posted at four o'clock today,

1868
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 1: franchise tag deadline, but some pacers talk with Tony East

1869
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 1: on the other side, This is the Fan Morning Show.

1870
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:04,679
Speaker 9: Fan Morning Show on Sports Radio ninety three and one seven.

1871
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 1: It's seven hours away from NFL franchise Tag Deadline Day.

1872
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:16,879
Speaker 1: It is interesting, James, we've had ESPN on the background

1873
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 1: here throughout the show. I don't think I've ever not

1874
01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:22,679
Speaker 1: that I watch ESPN religiously every morning, but I don't

1875
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 1: think I've ever seen the Colts be this featured on

1876
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 1: national sports shows in quite a while.

1877
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:32,599
Speaker 3: What do you mean this just happened with Philip Rivers

1878
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 3: that was every day. You saw how many hits that

1879
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:39,680
Speaker 3: Stephen Holder had to do from the Colts media room.

1880
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:40,840
Speaker 2: We all had to shut up while he was going

1881
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 2: on live TV. I want to set up in the

1882
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:42,719
Speaker 2: back and cheer.

1883
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 1: I think that quickly fizzled out.

1884
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:45,839
Speaker 2: But yeah, this is a big deal.

1885
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 1: Let you know.

1886
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 3: And honestly, I think it's because of how it could

1887
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 3: affect other teams.

1888
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean in Jones is the top quarterback. I

1889
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 1: don't think there's really any debating that the quarterback list

1890
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 1: is bleak, but he is the top one, and obviously

1891
01:28:58,200 --> 01:28:59,760
Speaker 1: we know the domino effect off of that, and again,

1892
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:04,680
Speaker 1: a great draft for quarterbacks either. So we'll continue on

1893
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 1: to that four o'clock today Franchise Tag Deadline. All Right,

1894
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:10,599
Speaker 1: it's been a while since we've chatted with our next guest,

1895
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 1: kem who should be tag the great Tony East? Well

1896
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 1: he's a Vikings fan, right, Tony? Do you want Daniel

1897
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:18,679
Speaker 1: Jones is your quarterback in twenty twenty six?

1898
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:23,040
Speaker 8: I honestly am not informed up there to.

1899
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 2: The what a lazy class?

1900
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:32,759
Speaker 10: My My only anti could provide is that watching JJ

1901
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 10: McCarthy was very awful, So it cannot be worse than that.

1902
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 2: That is very true.

1903
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 1: Actually, well that's a ringing endorsement, not an endorsement of

1904
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy.

1905
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 8: Clearly, I can't believe it.

1906
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:46,559
Speaker 10: Somehow I got quit Rick quick at the point that

1907
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 10: I was like, dang, I was so ready for Kirk

1908
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:48,880
Speaker 10: Cousins to.

1909
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:51,720
Speaker 8: Be over and now I'm like, oh man, what kirk

1910
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:52,759
Speaker 8: Cousins quarterback?

1911
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 1: He can Tony East with his hair locked on basers

1912
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 1: of course, where you can find his work Circle City Spin.

1913
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 1: It does agree great job with the updates there. Benedict

1914
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 1: Mathern gets into it with who Tomorrow night.

1915
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:09,479
Speaker 8: I've been joking with people about this. What do you

1916
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 8: think his over under is going to be? I think

1917
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 8: it's gonna be about sixty five thousand points is going

1918
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 8: to be?

1919
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 10: Uh his approximate line, because yeah, it's gonna be a

1920
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 10: very emotional game for all those guys who are involved.

1921
01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:24,760
Speaker 10: And yeah, he's somebody for sure with him, probably a

1922
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:27,559
Speaker 10: guard that he thinks he's as good as. And you know,

1923
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:30,799
Speaker 10: I still remember, I think James, yourew that Tarrislavert's return

1924
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 10: game with the cas.

1925
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he scored, He scored up.

1926
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 10: He scored like thirty five points and I've never seen

1927
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:38,680
Speaker 10: him fend that well in my life in.

1928
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 8: The fourth quarter of that game.

1929
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 10: Funny, the Pacers scored a bunch in the first quarter

1930
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 10: and then lost late. Like I predict a similar thing

1931
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 10: is going to happen tomorrow. So yeah, Ben Mathers's getting

1932
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 10: to do with somebody, for sure.

1933
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:51,600
Speaker 3: I think it'll be Rick Carlisle. He'll probably try to

1934
01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:53,640
Speaker 3: dunk on him in pregame warm ups or something and

1935
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:56,599
Speaker 3: it'll just up the andy a little bit. But okay,

1936
01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:59,080
Speaker 3: so let's dive into this, Tony. We do know the

1937
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 3: Pacers are obviously having a tough season, to say the least.

1938
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:08,040
Speaker 3: But when it comes to the draft lottery, are you

1939
01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:10,320
Speaker 3: still looking at Darren Peterson. I don't know if you

1940
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:13,840
Speaker 3: always were as the number one overall pick or how

1941
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 3: would you kind of slot them if you are the

1942
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 3: Pacers you got the number one choice? Are you confident

1943
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:21,519
Speaker 3: enough to pick Darren Peterson?

1944
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1945
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:25,400
Speaker 10: You know, for a while this season I felt like,

1946
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 10: in my very brief time watching everybody in the top four,

1947
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:30,759
Speaker 10: that he was the best player.

1948
01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:33,439
Speaker 8: He's just so naturally gifted as a score.

1949
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 10: Feels like he can get wherever he wants every single

1950
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:36,920
Speaker 10: time he has the ball.

1951
01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 8: You's got a jumper. That's all great, but you know.

1952
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:42,040
Speaker 10: There's always there's been a lot of shift in the

1953
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 10: perception of him recently with some of the comments he

1954
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:47,360
Speaker 10: makes and how much you might want to start, and

1955
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:49,960
Speaker 10: you know, I have no idea about the like mid

1956
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:52,960
Speaker 10: game availability stuff. I'm not going to pretend to understand

1957
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:55,599
Speaker 10: what's going on with all that. But you know, like

1958
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 10: anyone the Pacers pick is not going to start, Like

1959
01:31:58,040 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 10: it's just not going to be how it is.

1960
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:01,160
Speaker 8: They're starting five is very.

1961
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:03,920
Speaker 10: Good and it made the finals already, and they're most

1962
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:05,599
Speaker 10: of the players involved in and they're young, and now

1963
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:09,000
Speaker 10: it has to eat Tazubat. So he's whoever it is,

1964
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:10,680
Speaker 10: is going to come off the bench. Like if that

1965
01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:13,400
Speaker 10: is a legitimately an important factor for him, then that

1966
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 10: might not be a thing that maybe it doesn't matter

1967
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:17,559
Speaker 10: at all if they're really good and they're winning, and

1968
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:19,920
Speaker 10: he's a rookie and he knows that he's not supposed

1969
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:21,519
Speaker 10: to start or be a Marque player.

1970
01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:23,200
Speaker 8: Right away, but you do wonder what that means.

1971
01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 10: But now with Matherin gone, like a bench score is

1972
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:28,840
Speaker 10: extremely important for the Pacers, like that's one of their

1973
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 10: biggest needs generally as a team, or hoping someone on

1974
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:33,519
Speaker 10: the roster can step into it, and he can do that.

1975
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:36,320
Speaker 10: So for a while people questioned his fit and I

1976
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:38,000
Speaker 10: don't know if I ever agree with.

1977
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:39,760
Speaker 8: That, but now I really don't think anybody is.

1978
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 10: So if you think he's the best player, taking him

1979
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 10: makes a lot of sense. But truly, any of the

1980
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:47,519
Speaker 10: top four guys seem like they fit at least somewhat

1981
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:49,439
Speaker 10: and be very good for this team.

1982
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:54,400
Speaker 1: He's the twenty sixteen Midwest Guitar Hero Regional champion. He

1983
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:58,080
Speaker 1: is Tony East with us here on the Payless Slickers highing.

1984
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:02,439
Speaker 3: So in twenty sixteen it was Lebron It's wow, should

1985
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:03,000
Speaker 3: I have that right?

1986
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:03,720
Speaker 2: Tony on that?

1987
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 10: I don't remember the the last year of my brind

1988
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:11,519
Speaker 10: with that, but yes, that's approximately right.

1989
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:14,519
Speaker 1: And Just to clarify, you were nationally ranked correct on

1990
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:15,880
Speaker 1: guitar hero.

1991
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:20,479
Speaker 8: To the extent, to the extent that that's a thing. Yes, yes, my.

1992
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:21,720
Speaker 2: Boy got some skills up.

1993
01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:24,479
Speaker 1: You're too humble, king toomer.

1994
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:26,720
Speaker 2: You imagine the dexterity, you imagine the hand eye.

1995
01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1996
01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:31,240
Speaker 8: I can't believe that this still comes up like forever.

1997
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:32,120
Speaker 8: What do you mean?

1998
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:34,800
Speaker 3: This is greatness? We don't forget greatness, Tony.

1999
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:35,880
Speaker 2: Come on, man, we.

2000
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:37,920
Speaker 3: Have enough a rasor going on to media as it is.

2001
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:40,360
Speaker 3: We're trying, we're legacy media. We're gonna keep talking about this.

2002
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 10: Come on, man, it's franchise tag week in the five

2003
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:46,639
Speaker 10: for that game is coming up in the morning shows

2004
01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:47,439
Speaker 10: are the.

2005
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:50,000
Speaker 1: Garret Okay, I want to hit on Darren Peterson one

2006
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:53,640
Speaker 1: more time. Here are the Pacers in a position to

2007
01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:57,519
Speaker 1: take a player of his ilk, And I say that

2008
01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 1: in this way I think people would call a bit

2009
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:05,200
Speaker 1: of a risky pick. Obviously, there's tantalizing talent. It speaks

2010
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:07,120
Speaker 1: for itself when you watch him play basketball. Of course,

2011
01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:09,759
Speaker 1: there's a lot there where he has not played basketball

2012
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 1: this season that must be answered. But you know they

2013
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:14,000
Speaker 1: are in a position that you just said, they're starting

2014
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:17,720
Speaker 1: five is intact. They have Tyrese Haliburton, Pascal Siakam. You

2015
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:20,600
Speaker 1: know NBA teams would dream to have leaders like that.

2016
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:22,720
Speaker 1: Are you in a position to say, you know what,

2017
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:30,400
Speaker 1: a nineteen year old come into our operation feel pacers, culture, grow, mature, learn,

2018
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:34,160
Speaker 1: and then eventually we'll see what you have. We're not

2019
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 1: necessarily in the in this position where we won thousand percent.

2020
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:40,880
Speaker 1: Need to hit on the pick and we can grow

2021
01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 1: with a you know, we are a tanking team that

2022
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 1: might be in the lottery three or four more times

2023
01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:47,000
Speaker 1: here in the next five or six years. Like the

2024
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 1: Pacers are not really that. So how do you kind

2025
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:54,639
Speaker 1: of view their setup for a player like Peterson versus

2026
01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:57,280
Speaker 1: a Cameron Boozer who you might say, hey, boom, he's

2027
01:34:57,280 --> 01:35:00,080
Speaker 1: a six or seventh man on a playoff team, and

2028
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:01,640
Speaker 1: that's what the Pacers need because they're in a two

2029
01:35:01,720 --> 01:35:02,800
Speaker 1: or three year window right now.

2030
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:06,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, that is, you know, certainly something that I think

2031
01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:09,760
Speaker 10: is gonna be interesting with this is what like, I'm

2032
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:13,519
Speaker 10: very rarely a guy who doesn't think like I'm saying

2033
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:15,719
Speaker 10: this so weird. I always am the best player available

2034
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:20,920
Speaker 10: guy with the draft, but this year specifically, like the

2035
01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:24,639
Speaker 10: Pacers probably think and maybe should like they could win

2036
01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 10: the East next year, right like they they just did.

2037
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:28,679
Speaker 10: They're gonna have.

2038
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:29,679
Speaker 8: A lot of the same guys BacT.

2039
01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:32,519
Speaker 10: The question will be how good is Tyres Haliburton post injury? Obviously,

2040
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:35,960
Speaker 10: but you know they're that good. They're that level of team,

2041
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:39,759
Speaker 10: and so of course adding a rookie in this class,

2042
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:43,280
Speaker 10: in this caliber is something they would want to do.

2043
01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:46,519
Speaker 10: But teams that can win the East, like you do,

2044
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:48,840
Speaker 10: you don't. You do care about fit to some extent

2045
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:51,240
Speaker 10: with the draft, right like you, Any player you add

2046
01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:53,000
Speaker 10: to your team has to fit and help you win,

2047
01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:55,200
Speaker 10: like now that that your.

2048
01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:58,040
Speaker 8: Window is now, and maybe there is you know, you

2049
01:35:58,080 --> 01:35:58,559
Speaker 8: can look.

2050
01:35:58,439 --> 01:36:01,040
Speaker 10: At their contract alignment and say that maybe there are

2051
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:04,280
Speaker 10: some planning of there's this current era of this team

2052
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:07,559
Speaker 10: and then perhaps they resigned Tyre's Halliburton and then there's

2053
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:10,479
Speaker 10: a second era coming of Aliburton running the show, and

2054
01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:13,280
Speaker 10: that's when this player drafted would would matter. Now they

2055
01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 10: fit with Tyree's very well, then it would be a thing.

2056
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:17,679
Speaker 10: But maybe you don't care about it's fit about as much.

2057
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:19,519
Speaker 8: Then, But I think you're right, like you have the

2058
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 8: leaders that.

2059
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:22,800
Speaker 10: They have one of them who has won a championship,

2060
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:24,160
Speaker 10: one who has been the best player on a team

2061
01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:25,719
Speaker 10: that was half a game away.

2062
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:29,599
Speaker 8: From a championship. Like you don't care about fit.

2063
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 10: Or how much they necessarily fit in your culture in

2064
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:34,360
Speaker 10: some ways, because talent is what you need on a

2065
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:34,920
Speaker 10: team like that.

2066
01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:38,160
Speaker 8: But you actually do need to think about the fit

2067
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:38,599
Speaker 8: and the.

2068
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:40,960
Speaker 10: Current window more than you maybe normally would for a

2069
01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:43,800
Speaker 10: team drafting in the top four. So if they think

2070
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:46,679
Speaker 10: Peterson is the best fit, but they have all those questions,

2071
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:49,040
Speaker 10: maybe they do not care about them as much and

2072
01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:51,240
Speaker 10: still pick him, or maybe they go the other way

2073
01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 10: and completely say the guy who's the most ready to

2074
01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:55,920
Speaker 10: contribute right now, regardless of fit. If they think that's

2075
01:36:55,920 --> 01:36:57,880
Speaker 10: Boozer for example, maybe that's the guy. You know, I

2076
01:36:57,920 --> 01:37:01,320
Speaker 10: actually understand those factors more for them this time. The normal,

2077
01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:03,600
Speaker 10: which is weird because they're actually good usually stay their

2078
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:06,200
Speaker 10: way around where you're kind of in the middle, and

2079
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:08,000
Speaker 10: you pick go go when you already have two centers

2080
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:10,519
Speaker 10: and you know, okay, maybe they think that's just the

2081
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 10: best player. Oh wait, he doesn't fit at all, Like

2082
01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:14,000
Speaker 10: you have to always consider these things a little.

2083
01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:15,599
Speaker 8: Bit, But I really think they.

2084
01:37:15,479 --> 01:37:17,840
Speaker 10: Do now with you know how much they could win

2085
01:37:17,960 --> 01:37:19,639
Speaker 10: just immediately after picking somebody.

2086
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:23,439
Speaker 3: Tony again, we're talking catching up with Tony East. He

2087
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:26,599
Speaker 3: covers the Pacers Locked on Pacers podcast. You can also

2088
01:37:26,680 --> 01:37:28,920
Speaker 3: subscribe to Circle City Spin to get a little bit

2089
01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:31,400
Speaker 3: of the Pacers and the fever feel Tony, When I

2090
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:34,760
Speaker 3: look at the trade that was the Visa Zoobots, a

2091
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:36,800
Speaker 3: lot of it has to do with the top four pick.

2092
01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:38,960
Speaker 3: But how important do you think it is for him

2093
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:42,600
Speaker 3: to eventually play for the Pacers this season although it

2094
01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:45,919
Speaker 3: won't be what it looks like next season when Halliburton

2095
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:46,320
Speaker 3: is back.

2096
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:51,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, certainly some value in that and learning the system

2097
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:53,680
Speaker 10: and getting up to speed. So it's not just you

2098
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:57,880
Speaker 10: know now again next year they're gonna think they're high contender, right.

2099
01:37:57,880 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 10: They need to be trying to win and have everything smoothed.

2100
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:02,720
Speaker 8: Out right away. And so if you can make it

2101
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:06,160
Speaker 8: so Zobox is better for day one next season, that has.

2102
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:08,479
Speaker 10: Like a lot of actual value to your team, and

2103
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:10,120
Speaker 10: so playing him this year.

2104
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:11,360
Speaker 8: Does help with that.

2105
01:38:11,439 --> 01:38:14,439
Speaker 10: It'll make it easier for their opening night next season.

2106
01:38:14,479 --> 01:38:16,840
Speaker 10: Even if playing with Albert is different than not like

2107
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:19,559
Speaker 10: you've already, I think there's a center on the Pacers right.

2108
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:21,880
Speaker 8: Now, who proves the value of that. Jay Huffs first

2109
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:23,639
Speaker 8: month with the team, you.

2110
01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:27,040
Speaker 10: Know, and he they talked about his conditioning catching up

2111
01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:28,200
Speaker 10: to where the Pacers did it to.

2112
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:30,240
Speaker 8: Be, but like he was wandering for a.

2113
01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:32,880
Speaker 10: While trying to figure out exactly what was neither of

2114
01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 10: him in this system. And you know you can It's

2115
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:36,720
Speaker 10: so easy to think a c I've played for a

2116
01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 10: faster team before, or even though Zoobots has ever done that,

2117
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:41,960
Speaker 10: or you know, I've moved the ball before, like I

2118
01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:44,000
Speaker 10: can do that. Like it's just different with the Pacers

2119
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 10: and which asked of their centers, Like they have to

2120
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 10: make decisions.

2121
01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:48,840
Speaker 8: At the top of the key and figure out how

2122
01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:49,320
Speaker 8: to set their.

2123
01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:51,200
Speaker 10: Screens at the right angles to make the effernt flow

2124
01:38:51,200 --> 01:38:53,559
Speaker 10: and it's all random and quick. So Zubots has done

2125
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:55,880
Speaker 10: a lot of handoffs with the Clippers. He's paired with

2126
01:38:55,960 --> 01:38:58,320
Speaker 10: James Harden, Like I have no doubt that eventually he

2127
01:38:58,400 --> 01:38:59,720
Speaker 10: will be able to at least do it with what

2128
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:00,639
Speaker 10: the pay and.

2129
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:03,040
Speaker 8: Do well with Tyree Talverton. But there is a learning

2130
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:04,360
Speaker 8: curve for anyone with.

2131
01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:07,559
Speaker 10: The Pacers, I think, particularly big men, and so getting

2132
01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:09,560
Speaker 10: him some of those reps this season.

2133
01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:11,280
Speaker 8: Is of course significant so that.

2134
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:13,400
Speaker 10: Next season on opening now he's ready to go. He

2135
01:39:13,479 --> 01:39:15,840
Speaker 10: understands what's expected if them had to do it. And

2136
01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:18,000
Speaker 10: of course I think the other part of this is

2137
01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:20,879
Speaker 10: kind of what they're getting out of playing with Obi right.

2138
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:23,040
Speaker 8: Now, is you know, Obi Topping and Jay Huff had a.

2139
01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:26,880
Speaker 10: Combined twenty minutes together before Top and returned earlier this week,

2140
01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:29,479
Speaker 10: and Obie had never played with Zobe Brown, Obie's never

2141
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:32,320
Speaker 10: played with Zubots. Like you're just seeing these pairings all

2142
01:39:32,439 --> 01:39:36,479
Speaker 10: together and figuring out who works with who, who does

2143
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:39,800
Speaker 10: not work with who, what you specifically need around certain

2144
01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:43,840
Speaker 10: frontcorn combinations, and so see Zubots Siakam together, how that works,

2145
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:47,120
Speaker 10: what they need, Seeing how Top and Zubots together looks

2146
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:49,240
Speaker 10: and what they need and all sorts of combinations like that,

2147
01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:52,400
Speaker 10: I think we'll have value in terms of any decisions.

2148
01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:53,559
Speaker 8: They might have to make him on the roster the summer.

2149
01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:55,800
Speaker 10: It might be a very straightforward offseason they just pick

2150
01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:57,559
Speaker 10: a guy and lose Kobe Brown in that tip, But

2151
01:39:57,760 --> 01:39:59,760
Speaker 10: if they want to make some small tweaks to kind of,

2152
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:01,880
Speaker 10: you know, make all those fits better or make their

2153
01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:04,080
Speaker 10: team make a lot more sense, they need to know

2154
01:40:04,520 --> 01:40:06,639
Speaker 10: how those players fit together and what their strengths are

2155
01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:07,320
Speaker 10: as a pairing.

2156
01:40:07,439 --> 01:40:09,320
Speaker 8: So getting him on the floor.

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Speaker 10: For you know, half ish of their Pacers remaining games,

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Speaker 10: maybe no back to backs. You know, we'll see when

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Speaker 10: he answer returns. He told you guys last week. It's

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Speaker 10: still be a week or two more from now, Rick Carlisle.

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Speaker 10: Then great that that certainly has some value, but there

2162
01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:25,240
Speaker 10: is a maximum limit of that. There's no point of

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01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:27,000
Speaker 10: running him out there for a bunch of minutes every

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Speaker 10: single night.

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Speaker 8: The rest of the way.

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Speaker 10: So I'll be curious how they exactly handle it if

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01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:32,400
Speaker 10: they just try to mix and match players around him

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Speaker 10: when he's in the floor, because there is tangible value

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Speaker 10: in playing a Beacha Zubat at some point this.

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Speaker 1: Year, Tony last one from me, Tony Yust. Of course,

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01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:44,519
Speaker 1: on the payloss slickers hot line, if I grouped every

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01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:47,559
Speaker 1: single player, you would label a Pacers bench player into

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01:40:47,560 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 1: one category, and let's maybe remove Jaris Walker. Every single

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Speaker 1: one you've seen play for this team this season, who

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01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:57,160
Speaker 1: has helped there cause the most, and is it Michael Potter.

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01:40:59,439 --> 01:41:02,200
Speaker 10: Maybe it is recently, especially I mean he's averaging twenty

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01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:04,840
Speaker 10: points a game, his last three games and making a

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01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:07,000
Speaker 10: case to be their third or second center next year,

2179
01:41:07,040 --> 01:41:10,160
Speaker 10: and that really matters, right, Like this literally happened last year.

2180
01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:12,360
Speaker 10: They signed Tony Bradley to a two year deal and

2181
01:41:12,439 --> 01:41:14,439
Speaker 10: the team option, and everybody's I have whatever they need

2182
01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:16,479
Speaker 10: a third center, but he's just a third center.

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Speaker 8: And then he played and they was like, oh, Tony

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Speaker 8: Bradley's like kind of helpful.

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01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:21,000
Speaker 10: And then he played a lot and they was like, oh,

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01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:22,519
Speaker 10: maybe he'll be back next year, and then he played

2187
01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:24,120
Speaker 10: in the finals, and then he was back the next season.

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01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:25,040
Speaker 8: Is their third big A.

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01:41:25,120 --> 01:41:28,520
Speaker 10: Mega Potters kind of going through that exact ascent recently

2190
01:41:28,600 --> 01:41:31,000
Speaker 10: of being one of their most helpful bench pieces the

2191
01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:34,400
Speaker 10: last couple of weeks and maybe recently like their best

2192
01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:37,200
Speaker 10: most efficient bench player. His defense leaves a lot to

2193
01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:39,280
Speaker 10: be desired to even admit it after the Grizzlies game

2194
01:41:39,320 --> 01:41:41,400
Speaker 10: that it was one of his worst defensive games he's

2195
01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:43,720
Speaker 10: had with the team. But right now they need him

2196
01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:46,200
Speaker 10: to be an actual scoring hub for that group.

2197
01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:47,360
Speaker 8: But he's doing a pretty good job.

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01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:50,439
Speaker 10: He has a lot of good chemistry with those reserve

2199
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:53,200
Speaker 10: unit ball handlers, So you know, in terms of like

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01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:54,720
Speaker 10: that's kind of what the end of the season is

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01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:57,720
Speaker 10: about is finding guys who do they have belong on your.

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Speaker 8: Team next year? Don't they?

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01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:00,599
Speaker 10: And so far as making the case said he does,

2204
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:03,040
Speaker 10: because like you're saying, he's been quite good as one

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01:42:03,080 --> 01:42:05,120
Speaker 10: of their bench players in this last quarter or so

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01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:07,679
Speaker 10: of the season, getting minutes every nighted earning the minutes

2207
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:10,320
Speaker 10: every night, He's not just being handed them as evaluation.

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01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:12,040
Speaker 8: So meaningful for next year and for this year. This

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Speaker 8: Michael Potter stretch, well.

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Speaker 3: I think Michael Potter is clearly established himself because he

2211
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:18,800
Speaker 3: was on the Olympic team two years ago briefly with

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01:42:18,920 --> 01:42:22,000
Speaker 3: Lebron James and others. So put some respect on Michael

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01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:22,879
Speaker 3: Potter's name.

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Speaker 10: No kidding, I mean what a crazy experience for like

2215
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:27,800
Speaker 10: him and Nigel Hayes, right.

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01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:32,920
Speaker 1: Explain to our audience might be very confused right now.

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01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:38,519
Speaker 3: Basically, the two practice players that helped prepare Team USA

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01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:41,479
Speaker 3: throughout some exhibition games traveled around the world really to

2219
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:43,400
Speaker 3: get ready for the summer Olympics. No, they were not

2220
01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:46,200
Speaker 3: on the official roster sitting next to Tyre's Halliburton. But hey,

2221
01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:48,720
Speaker 3: if I'm Michael Potter, I'm telling my children, have you

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01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:51,200
Speaker 3: seen a picture with a Lebron James. We were teammates

2223
01:42:51,200 --> 01:42:53,200
Speaker 3: and I was better than him. That's what I'd be saying.

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01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:55,639
Speaker 10: Well, when I talked to Michaeh, like, I don't think

2225
01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:58,240
Speaker 10: they expected they were even going to play in the exhibitions, and.

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Speaker 8: Then they were winning by so much of a gang you.

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01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:02,840
Speaker 10: Go play and then they like scored points and did

2228
01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:04,719
Speaker 10: real things like that's like a lifetime memory.

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Speaker 8: That's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Tony East Payless Liquors Hotline against Circle City Spin. We

2231
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:12,599
Speaker 1: can read his work. Locked on Pacers is a great

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Speaker 1: great listen Tony. Always enjoy our convos. Thank you, sir,

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Speaker 1: and thanks.

2234
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Speaker 8: For having me, guys. Good luck with all the cold stuff.

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Speaker 1: Not really a Daniel Jones fan. I don't know that

2236
01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:24,360
Speaker 1: sounded very lukewarm. He is a Vikings fan.

2237
01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:29,200
Speaker 2: That's why I see very warm. Moving on from JJ McCarthy.

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01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:31,840
Speaker 1: Though to him, yes, definitely anti JJ McCarthy. Speaking of warm,

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Speaker 1: hopefully it'll be pretty warm. April thirtieth, we've got the

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Speaker 4: Slashing indeed, all right.

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Speaker 1: Another side, we'll get back into the franchise tag deadline

2261
01:44:34,840 --> 01:44:38,160
Speaker 1: today at four o'clock and what it could mean to

2262
01:44:38,200 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 1: the Annapolis Colts and the rest of this twenty twenty

2263
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:43,200
Speaker 1: six offseason. So far on in the league, we've seen

2264
01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:46,679
Speaker 1: two players tag George Pickens. Therefore, that can mean Alex

2265
01:44:46,720 --> 01:44:49,200
Speaker 1: Pierce is the top white out if he gets to

2266
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Speaker 1: the open market, and Kyle Pitts with the Atlanta Falcons.

2267
01:44:53,080 --> 01:44:56,120
Speaker 1: So NFL calendar starts to ramp up here in the

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Speaker 1: month of March, and today at four o'clock is the

2269
01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:03,240
Speaker 1: tag line. Pacers have a practice today that they're out west.

2270
01:45:03,280 --> 01:45:05,880
Speaker 1: As we talked about with Tony East right there. They've

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01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:08,160
Speaker 1: got the Clippers tomorrow night. It's a ten thirty tip

2272
01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:11,760
Speaker 1: with Benedict Matherin. And you said Matherin and Andrew Nemhard.

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01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:14,680
Speaker 1: That's what you've got circled on your roster that need

2274
01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:18,360
Speaker 1: chin to chin situation to two Canadians.

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Speaker 3: And also they like the churp. I think Andrew Nemhard.

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01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:24,719
Speaker 3: You know, he's a handsome fella, you know, quiet guy,

2277
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:26,960
Speaker 3: but you gotta watch the quiet ones. He might say

2278
01:45:26,960 --> 01:45:29,280
Speaker 3: a couple things that gets underneath the skin of Bendick Matherin,

2279
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:31,640
Speaker 3: and honestly, as a competitor, he don't need any of

2280
01:45:31,640 --> 01:45:32,120
Speaker 3: that anyways.

2281
01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:32,880
Speaker 2: They'll just go at each.

2282
01:45:32,800 --> 01:45:37,240
Speaker 1: Other basketball wise, from a local standpoint, tomorrow will be

2283
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:40,920
Speaker 1: our big night from college hoops. Butler Creighton JMV will

2284
01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:44,000
Speaker 1: be broadcasting live from Hickelfield Hou's coming up tomorrow. That

2285
01:45:44,080 --> 01:45:46,400
Speaker 1: will get things started right here on the fan. So

2286
01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:49,879
Speaker 1: JMV will lead into the great Mark Menner Nick Gardner

2287
01:45:50,160 --> 01:45:53,920
Speaker 1: pregame coverage at five thirty again Butler Creighton tips at

2288
01:45:53,960 --> 01:45:56,800
Speaker 1: six o'cock. Butler has one two in a row here.

2289
01:45:57,120 --> 01:45:58,800
Speaker 1: This will be their final home game of the season.

2290
01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:02,320
Speaker 1: I believe some enticing Happy Hour beer specials there over

2291
01:46:02,360 --> 01:46:05,280
Speaker 1: at Hinkle starting with gates opening up at four thirty.

2292
01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:09,280
Speaker 1: We'll go double header on Big ten Network Tomorrow night,

2293
01:46:09,439 --> 01:46:13,519
Speaker 1: Indiana Minnesota at six point thirty. That will be Senior

2294
01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:16,320
Speaker 1: Night for the Hoosiers, and yes, they have a lot

2295
01:46:16,360 --> 01:46:20,720
Speaker 1: of notable seniors, as wild as that might sound, Lamar Wilkerson,

2296
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:25,240
Speaker 1: Tucker Dafreeze, Sam Alexis, Read Bailey, Tayton, Connorway, Connor Enwright,

2297
01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:28,200
Speaker 1: all of them out of eligibility. So it'll be a

2298
01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:31,439
Speaker 1: very new look roster for Indiana coming up for Ryan

2299
01:46:31,479 --> 01:46:34,720
Speaker 1: Carr trying to rebuild that next year. And then the

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01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:36,800
Speaker 1: second Big ten Network game of the night, we'll have

2301
01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:41,719
Speaker 1: Matt Painters Boilers trying to get off of their losing slide,

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Speaker 1: if you will, losers of three of four Purdue in Northwestern.

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01:46:45,320 --> 01:46:47,920
Speaker 1: Northwestern has one three in a row, so that'll be

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Speaker 1: eight thirty there on Big ten Network locally if you will. Tonight,

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01:46:53,720 --> 01:46:56,880
Speaker 1: it's Sectional play around the state to Mill always a

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01:46:56,920 --> 01:46:57,960
Speaker 1: great great spot.

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Speaker 2: For the section.

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Speaker 1: All that is, of course, the loaded sectional death of

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01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:04,599
Speaker 1: Sectional eight up there. You've got Zionsville. I think it's

2310
01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:07,400
Speaker 1: Zionesville and Doblesville. I'm not taking the first game there,

2311
01:47:07,439 --> 01:47:10,360
Speaker 1: and then it's HC. Westfield that second game. Fisher is

2312
01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:12,840
Speaker 1: getting the bye. I thought I had heard that Kaile

2313
01:47:12,920 --> 01:47:16,400
Speaker 1: McGrew their big guy knee injury. His status very much

2314
01:47:16,479 --> 01:47:17,920
Speaker 1: up in the air for the sectional, but they could

2315
01:47:17,920 --> 01:47:19,679
Speaker 1: be getting Jason Gardner junior back.

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01:47:20,200 --> 01:47:23,920
Speaker 2: You think Fisher survives that? If indeed, I do, you're

2317
01:47:23,960 --> 01:47:25,280
Speaker 2: in there McGrew not. Yeah.

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01:47:25,320 --> 01:47:29,200
Speaker 3: I like their depth. They're very well coached and they

2319
01:47:29,240 --> 01:47:31,200
Speaker 3: know how to win. They've had their backs against the

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Speaker 3: wall pretty much for the last few seasons, and.

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Speaker 1: They flirted here in the regular season with some close

2322
01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:35,880
Speaker 1: they did.

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01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:39,920
Speaker 3: But again, who do I trust to withstand those moments.

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01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:42,120
Speaker 3: It's them because I've seen it before. So you might

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01:47:42,160 --> 01:47:44,200
Speaker 3: catch your boy over there later tonight, which is why

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01:47:44,240 --> 01:47:46,439
Speaker 3: I'm glad the tag deadline for the Colts is four pm.

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Speaker 2: I'll get an answer by then.

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01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:51,600
Speaker 1: Gosh, we can only hope. Well, I guess we have to.

2329
01:47:52,040 --> 01:47:53,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have to. We have to hope.

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Speaker 1: Avon, Brownsburg, were buff tri West Cathedral, short Ridge, Purdue, Englewood, Guitar,

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Speaker 1: Washington Speedway, Lapel frank And University Monrovia, Riverside, and rit

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Speaker 1: Or a few of the other local games. Sign a

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01:48:05,439 --> 01:48:08,640
Speaker 1: little busier Tuesday night than Wednesday night here from a

2334
01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:11,880
Speaker 1: sectional standpoint, I have Ohio, I guess, speaking of local,

2335
01:48:12,160 --> 01:48:14,479
Speaker 1: they will try to stretch it to thirty and oh

2336
01:48:14,520 --> 01:48:17,400
Speaker 1: their second to last regular season game of the year. Again,

2337
01:48:17,479 --> 01:48:19,960
Speaker 1: they won on a pseudo buzzer beater. They had to

2338
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:23,400
Speaker 1: come back to win on Friday. They have Toledo tonight,

2339
01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:25,120
Speaker 1: and by all accounts, this is one of their more

2340
01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:29,240
Speaker 1: difficult games that they've had here in MAC play recently.

2341
01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:32,120
Speaker 1: So they're just trying to become the fourth team in

2342
01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:36,719
Speaker 1: the last twenty years to go undefeated in a regular season.

2343
01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:39,960
Speaker 1: They are favored by eight and a half tonight. Indy

2344
01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:42,840
Speaker 1: car back to racing this weekend out in Phoenix. Busy

2345
01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:44,679
Speaker 1: weekend out there. We talked about that with Mark James.

2346
01:48:45,640 --> 01:48:48,040
Speaker 1: They are out there out on the oval, the first

2347
01:48:48,040 --> 01:48:50,240
Speaker 1: time they've been in Phoenix in quite some time. So

2348
01:48:50,280 --> 01:48:52,559
Speaker 1: again a busy month of March here for Indy car

2349
01:48:52,720 --> 01:48:56,320
Speaker 1: Can anyone beat alex Plow continues to be the question

2350
01:48:56,439 --> 01:48:59,400
Speaker 1: that you would have there, and that's probably about it

2351
01:48:59,680 --> 01:49:02,000
Speaker 1: you in either season comes to a close one oh

2352
01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:04,839
Speaker 1: one ninety three. Last night they were in the playing

2353
01:49:04,920 --> 01:49:08,800
Speaker 1: game for the Horizon League Tournament and they lost that

2354
01:49:08,840 --> 01:49:12,479
Speaker 1: one at Cleveland State. Seven wins for Ben Hawle there

2355
01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:16,360
Speaker 1: in his first year as a head coach. All right,

2356
01:49:16,360 --> 01:49:18,200
Speaker 1: coming up on the other side, what to look for

2357
01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:21,080
Speaker 1: today with that franchise tag deadline in regards to Daniel

2358
01:49:21,120 --> 01:49:24,160
Speaker 1: Jones and Alec Pierce hit that next year fan morning show.

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01:49:26,160 --> 01:49:29,920
Speaker 9: They seized a fan morning show with Kby Kby and

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01:49:30,040 --> 01:49:30,600
Speaker 9: Jeff I.

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01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:32,280
Speaker 11: Hope is that he'll be back ready for the start

2362
01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:34,639
Speaker 11: of the season. There's also another team that's lingering there

2363
01:49:34,680 --> 01:49:37,000
Speaker 11: and as Chefty lies out the transition tag.

2364
01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:38,599
Speaker 4: Meets someone else can make an offer.

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01:49:38,920 --> 01:49:41,800
Speaker 11: The Colt just would have the last opportunity to match

2366
01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:44,320
Speaker 11: that offer. So who would think Daniel Jones now at

2367
01:49:44,320 --> 01:49:46,240
Speaker 11: HOMI might be like, well, the Jets need a quarterback

2368
01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:48,559
Speaker 11: and the Cardinals needy to go. I don't see that the

2369
01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:50,880
Speaker 11: team I would watch as a possible long shot, but

2370
01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:53,639
Speaker 11: also one that could be angling here the Minnesota Vikings.

2371
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:56,400
Speaker 11: Remember Daniel Jones spent half the season with the Minnesota

2372
01:49:56,479 --> 01:49:59,000
Speaker 11: Vikings a year ago. Not only did Sam Darnold leave

2373
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:01,000
Speaker 11: that building, Daniel Jones.

2374
01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:01,280
Speaker 4: Left that built.

2375
01:50:01,320 --> 01:50:01,840
Speaker 9: I think the Vikings.

2376
01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:04,800
Speaker 11: For surprise, the Colts gave Daniel Jones the money that

2377
01:50:04,920 --> 01:50:06,440
Speaker 11: he got last offseason.

2378
01:50:06,720 --> 01:50:07,799
Speaker 4: Keep an eye on the Vikings.

2379
01:50:07,840 --> 01:50:12,639
Speaker 11: If the transition tag is a plot with the minding.

2380
01:50:12,680 --> 01:50:15,320
Speaker 4: No man on the Minnesota Vikings.

2381
01:50:15,640 --> 01:50:19,920
Speaker 1: True Mark, great work commashing all that together. That was

2382
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:24,439
Speaker 1: from this morning Peter Schrager of ESPN and James. I

2383
01:50:24,520 --> 01:50:26,720
Speaker 1: think when we've discussed Daniel Jones for the last couple

2384
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:31,120
Speaker 1: of months, I found myself, if there's any team out

2385
01:50:31,160 --> 01:50:33,640
Speaker 1: there that's the one, is Minnesota.

2386
01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:33,880
Speaker 6: Right.

2387
01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:36,400
Speaker 1: Just to kind of add some context to what Peter

2388
01:50:36,400 --> 01:50:40,000
Speaker 1: Trigger was saying, I believe Minnesota actually offered more than

2389
01:50:40,160 --> 01:50:44,760
Speaker 1: Indy last offseason for Daniel Jones. But Daniel Jones wisely

2390
01:50:45,160 --> 01:50:48,760
Speaker 1: looked at the two situations and said, Okay, where's the

2391
01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:53,439
Speaker 1: easier place to start. Oh, They've already benched Anthony Richardson twice. Okay,

2392
01:50:53,760 --> 01:50:56,360
Speaker 1: that is a better place for me than Minnesota, which

2393
01:50:56,360 --> 01:50:58,960
Speaker 1: at the time JJ McCarthy had yet to play in

2394
01:50:59,000 --> 01:51:03,200
Speaker 1: the NFL. The other thing, too, is Minnesota just recently.

2395
01:51:03,240 --> 01:51:05,200
Speaker 1: I mean, when is this three weeks ago? They just

2396
01:51:05,240 --> 01:51:08,439
Speaker 1: fired their GM out of the blue, and there's this

2397
01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:12,760
Speaker 1: very like Kevin O'Connell, how much control? You know? It

2398
01:51:12,800 --> 01:51:14,519
Speaker 1: just seems like a very awkward time, I guess in

2399
01:51:14,560 --> 01:51:17,120
Speaker 1: the Vikings franchise, and I think there's some displeasure in

2400
01:51:17,160 --> 01:51:20,000
Speaker 1: how the quarterback position in particular has been handled between

2401
01:51:20,360 --> 01:51:22,479
Speaker 1: GM and head coach, potentially having some disconnect.

2402
01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:24,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they were kind of caught with their

2403
01:51:24,439 --> 01:51:27,479
Speaker 3: pants down last year because they just didn't think that

2404
01:51:27,520 --> 01:51:31,880
Speaker 3: they would lose two starting caliber quarterbacks in the same offseason.

2405
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:33,839
Speaker 3: And of course they didn't want to play Jajit McCarthy.

2406
01:51:34,200 --> 01:51:35,720
Speaker 3: And when you draft a guy on the top ten,

2407
01:51:36,120 --> 01:51:40,439
Speaker 3: he's a quarterback, that is the expectation. But yeah, now,

2408
01:51:40,600 --> 01:51:44,400
Speaker 3: after that one full year with JJ and it was awful,

2409
01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:48,400
Speaker 3: you probably are more desperate than another team, and there's

2410
01:51:48,439 --> 01:51:51,360
Speaker 3: familiarity there, so you don't want to overlook that. From

2411
01:51:51,360 --> 01:51:54,280
Speaker 3: what I understand, Daniel Jones did enjoy his time with

2412
01:51:54,320 --> 01:51:56,040
Speaker 3: the Vikings. I believe we talked to him about it

2413
01:51:56,920 --> 01:51:59,360
Speaker 3: during the past season, Kevin, and he said he learned

2414
01:51:59,360 --> 01:52:01,960
Speaker 3: a lot from O'Connell about how they attack, defense, how

2415
01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:04,280
Speaker 3: aggressive they are. He was talking about how much he

2416
01:52:04,360 --> 01:52:07,320
Speaker 3: learned when it comes to preparation from Sam Darnold. And

2417
01:52:07,360 --> 01:52:09,880
Speaker 3: you wonder if there are still some feelings there.

2418
01:52:09,880 --> 01:52:10,679
Speaker 2: We talked about.

2419
01:52:10,439 --> 01:52:14,200
Speaker 3: Engagements earlier throughout the show. Are you still looking over

2420
01:52:14,200 --> 01:52:17,080
Speaker 3: your shoulders saying, hey, you know old things? She don't

2421
01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:19,040
Speaker 3: look too bad. She'd been working on herself.

2422
01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:23,160
Speaker 2: She needs me. What's the thoughts there? I don't know.

2423
01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:25,720
Speaker 1: Isn't Ryan Gregson still there too? I think he gets

2424
01:52:25,760 --> 01:52:28,080
Speaker 1: stick it to the Colts one more time. Who James

2425
01:52:28,200 --> 01:52:30,479
Speaker 1: was referencing there, My old thing doesn't look too bad,

2426
01:52:31,120 --> 01:52:32,720
Speaker 1: to say, any Colts fans out there feel that way

2427
01:52:32,720 --> 01:52:33,479
Speaker 1: about Ryan Grigson.

2428
01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:35,800
Speaker 3: Now that Chris Boward is operated for boy, you know

2429
01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:37,200
Speaker 3: what we go down that.

2430
01:52:37,200 --> 01:52:38,080
Speaker 2: That's a pretty good question.

2431
01:52:38,120 --> 01:52:40,040
Speaker 1: It seems like a June common much time you got, right?

2432
01:52:40,080 --> 01:52:40,559
Speaker 2: How much time?

2433
01:52:40,680 --> 01:52:43,479
Speaker 1: I am making a list of summer combos?

2434
01:52:43,520 --> 01:52:43,760
Speaker 4: Mark?

2435
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:45,080
Speaker 1: I think you and I have talked about this a

2436
01:52:45,080 --> 01:52:47,720
Speaker 1: little bit, we're gonna have some great summer shows. I

2437
01:52:47,720 --> 01:52:50,719
Speaker 1: feel like, yeah, a little bit off the wall at times,

2438
01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:54,040
Speaker 1: but I think it'll make for some entertainment. I think

2439
01:52:54,080 --> 01:52:56,240
Speaker 1: so too. Some irons are in the fire. Let's just say,

2440
01:52:56,680 --> 01:53:00,679
Speaker 1: let's go over everything that can occur for to day James,

2441
01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:03,760
Speaker 1: because I don't think the NFL is as confusing as

2442
01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:06,560
Speaker 1: the NBA by any means no when it comes to contracts,

2443
01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:09,719
Speaker 1: but the conte and it's confusing this time and apron

2444
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:13,000
Speaker 1: this and apron that. But yes, we're not familiar with

2445
01:53:13,240 --> 01:53:14,920
Speaker 1: We don't talk about the franchise tag and the Colts

2446
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:15,400
Speaker 1: very often.

2447
01:53:15,400 --> 01:53:17,920
Speaker 2: They used it one time in the last whatever thirteen years.

2448
01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:23,439
Speaker 1: Right, So basically today, James, three things could happen. Four

2449
01:53:23,439 --> 01:53:26,040
Speaker 1: o'clock is the deadline for this to occur. Yep, they

2450
01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:31,320
Speaker 1: could a tag Daniel Jones for forty three million dollars, right,

2451
01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:33,280
Speaker 1: non exclusive franchise tag.

2452
01:53:33,840 --> 01:53:35,559
Speaker 2: Or use the transition tag on him.

2453
01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:36,000
Speaker 8: Right.

2454
01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:38,040
Speaker 1: So I guess now that I say that out loud,

2455
01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:42,080
Speaker 1: that's five things that could happen. The transition tag would

2456
01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:44,719
Speaker 1: then allow for him to negotiate with other teams.

2457
01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:45,040
Speaker 8: Right.

2458
01:53:45,080 --> 01:53:48,040
Speaker 1: The Colts would eventually have the right to match right,

2459
01:53:48,120 --> 01:53:49,040
Speaker 1: whatever those offers.

2460
01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:53,080
Speaker 3: But if he left, unlike with the non exclusive franchise tag,

2461
01:53:53,320 --> 01:53:55,840
Speaker 3: there is no draft compensation, you get nothing.

2462
01:53:55,800 --> 01:53:58,160
Speaker 1: Right, and there's a six million dollar difference. Yes, for

2463
01:53:58,280 --> 01:53:59,280
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones.

2464
01:53:59,000 --> 01:54:01,200
Speaker 3: Non exclusive tag if he leaves, you get two first

2465
01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:03,880
Speaker 3: round picks. Transition tag if he leaves, you get nothing.

2466
01:54:04,160 --> 01:54:07,160
Speaker 1: With Alec Pierce, same thing as apply. You can non

2467
01:54:07,200 --> 01:54:09,920
Speaker 1: exclusive franchise tag for him, you'd get two first round

2468
01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:13,360
Speaker 1: picks in return. If some team wanted to sweeten that offer.

2469
01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:15,360
Speaker 1: What is that twenty eight million for him?

2470
01:54:15,479 --> 01:54:15,719
Speaker 2: Yes?

2471
01:54:16,240 --> 01:54:18,559
Speaker 1: And then the transition tag's like twenty three or twenty four.

2472
01:54:18,760 --> 01:54:21,519
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it right here, twenty four, twenty four

2473
01:54:21,680 --> 01:54:25,519
Speaker 1: for Pierce on the transition tag, and again he could

2474
01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:27,599
Speaker 1: then negotiate with other teams. You would have the right

2475
01:54:27,640 --> 01:54:30,120
Speaker 1: to match. If you were to sign with another team,

2476
01:54:30,320 --> 01:54:32,600
Speaker 1: you get nothing, You get nothing. So those are the

2477
01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:37,320
Speaker 1: tag options with Pierce or Jones, or you could do nothing.

2478
01:54:38,240 --> 01:54:41,280
Speaker 1: You could not use the franchise. Boy, I know, but

2479
01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:42,920
Speaker 1: I'm just laying it all out there. These are all

2480
01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:44,480
Speaker 1: the options the Colts could.

2481
01:54:44,680 --> 01:54:47,680
Speaker 3: Lucas Loyle Stadium would not be standing if they did

2482
01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:50,640
Speaker 3: not use the franchise tag on someone.

2483
01:54:50,480 --> 01:54:53,160
Speaker 1: Now if they went that path, because you heard Chris

2484
01:54:53,200 --> 01:54:56,720
Speaker 1: Baward last week, he was rather anti franchise tag.

2485
01:54:56,880 --> 01:54:57,040
Speaker 8: Right.

2486
01:54:57,080 --> 01:54:59,400
Speaker 1: He knows it's a tool, he knows it's in his pocket,

2487
01:54:59,560 --> 01:55:02,160
Speaker 1: and he's not an idiot. He knows that if he

2488
01:55:02,240 --> 01:55:06,080
Speaker 1: has to use it, he will. But in an ideal world,

2489
01:55:06,320 --> 01:55:08,720
Speaker 1: I think Ballard said as much on the record last week.

2490
01:55:08,840 --> 01:55:11,400
Speaker 1: He wants long term deals done with these two guys.

2491
01:55:12,080 --> 01:55:15,680
Speaker 1: So if for some reason they don't use the tag today,

2492
01:55:16,440 --> 01:55:20,360
Speaker 1: you have six days to get a long term deal done.

2493
01:55:20,920 --> 01:55:23,000
Speaker 1: And if you don't get a long term deal done

2494
01:55:23,080 --> 01:55:28,800
Speaker 1: with either player, then come lunchtime on Monday, March ninth.

2495
01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:30,560
Speaker 2: The start of well Querian Company.

2496
01:55:30,440 --> 01:55:34,080
Speaker 1: You can agree to terms with anybody else in the league.

2497
01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:39,800
Speaker 1: So I think that lays it all out. Tag each

2498
01:55:39,840 --> 01:55:42,280
Speaker 1: of them. Excuse me, you only use the tag once,

2499
01:55:42,320 --> 01:55:43,040
Speaker 1: I should say.

2500
01:55:42,880 --> 01:55:45,480
Speaker 3: Yes, one, that's it. You don't get to choose in

2501
01:55:45,720 --> 01:55:48,040
Speaker 3: two different types of tags, but you can only use

2502
01:55:48,040 --> 01:55:52,240
Speaker 3: one of them for one player. So in my mind,

2503
01:55:53,040 --> 01:55:56,240
Speaker 3: I think it comes down to, perhaps, let's narrow this

2504
01:55:56,280 --> 01:56:01,839
Speaker 3: down KB. Let's say it's three decisions, just tag related.

2505
01:56:02,680 --> 01:56:04,640
Speaker 3: You have the option to put the non e scuotive

2506
01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:08,360
Speaker 3: tag on Alec Pierce, or you have the chance to

2507
01:56:08,440 --> 01:56:10,720
Speaker 3: use the transition tag or the non scootive tag on

2508
01:56:10,880 --> 01:56:15,400
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones. Now, the reason why the transition tag, which

2509
01:56:15,400 --> 01:56:18,000
Speaker 3: the Colts have not used since nineteen ninety eight, is

2510
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:21,120
Speaker 3: even an option, I think, is because the Colts are saying,

2511
01:56:21,640 --> 01:56:23,600
Speaker 3: all right, we want to save a little bit money here,

2512
01:56:24,520 --> 01:56:25,360
Speaker 3: we still want you.

2513
01:56:26,120 --> 01:56:28,200
Speaker 2: We're gonna tag you and let another.

2514
01:56:27,920 --> 01:56:31,600
Speaker 3: Team negotiate for us, set the market and we'll just

2515
01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:36,360
Speaker 3: match it without having to perhaps be on the hook

2516
01:56:36,440 --> 01:56:39,400
Speaker 3: for a bigger, long term deal.

2517
01:56:39,400 --> 01:56:40,960
Speaker 2: We're saying, we're gonna call you a bluff.

2518
01:56:41,600 --> 01:56:43,440
Speaker 3: You think you can get a better offer from another team,

2519
01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:47,600
Speaker 3: let's see it, and even if it is a little sweeter,

2520
01:56:47,960 --> 01:56:50,520
Speaker 3: we'll just match it and keep you here. The risk

2521
01:56:50,600 --> 01:56:53,040
Speaker 3: what that is, as I laid out I believe in

2522
01:56:53,080 --> 01:56:55,640
Speaker 3: the first hour of the show, is that a team

2523
01:56:55,800 --> 01:56:58,240
Speaker 3: in theory doesn't have to rush to make an offer.

2524
01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:01,120
Speaker 3: They can wait and wait and wait and to see

2525
01:57:01,120 --> 01:57:04,280
Speaker 3: how the free agency plays out in you know, March

2526
01:57:04,320 --> 01:57:08,400
Speaker 3: and June, and they could swoop in and make a

2527
01:57:08,680 --> 01:57:11,520
Speaker 3: massive offer for Daniel Jones, where the culture saying, wait

2528
01:57:11,520 --> 01:57:15,040
Speaker 3: a second, we already built our off season roster. Can

2529
01:57:15,080 --> 01:57:17,560
Speaker 3: we still afford that? How do we make room for that?

2530
01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:20,640
Speaker 3: Because teams can get creative and if you match it,

2531
01:57:20,640 --> 01:57:22,600
Speaker 3: then you're on the hook for a contract that perhaps

2532
01:57:22,640 --> 01:57:25,760
Speaker 3: you don't want, so you lose a little bit of

2533
01:57:25,840 --> 01:57:28,760
Speaker 3: agency there. And the risk is if you tag a

2534
01:57:28,880 --> 01:57:32,520
Speaker 3: Daniel or Alec Pierce the other one reaches free agency.

2535
01:57:33,000 --> 01:57:35,440
Speaker 3: And again I still think in my heart of hearts

2536
01:57:36,320 --> 01:57:37,720
Speaker 3: and I don't think that my heart is all that pure,

2537
01:57:37,760 --> 01:57:41,680
Speaker 3: But it's kind of all right that both players will

2538
01:57:41,720 --> 01:57:44,000
Speaker 3: be playing for the Colts in some capacity next season.

2539
01:57:44,800 --> 01:57:49,520
Speaker 3: But it is not a four gone package deal. Each

2540
01:57:49,600 --> 01:57:53,360
Speaker 3: player has to sign their own type of contract, use

2541
01:57:53,360 --> 01:57:57,880
Speaker 3: their own agency to do so, to call themselves teammates.

2542
01:57:57,920 --> 01:58:02,000
Speaker 2: Again, it is a risk. There's always risk in.

2543
01:58:01,960 --> 01:58:05,240
Speaker 3: This and quite honestly, you have to decide what watters

2544
01:58:05,320 --> 01:58:09,880
Speaker 3: more to you. Tagging our quarterback because he is the

2545
01:58:09,920 --> 01:58:14,760
Speaker 3: most important position in the sport, or tagging Alec Pierce,

2546
01:58:15,000 --> 01:58:17,880
Speaker 3: who will, in my opinion and I think others as

2547
01:58:17,920 --> 01:58:20,960
Speaker 3: well would agree, will have a bigger market because he

2548
01:58:20,960 --> 01:58:23,520
Speaker 3: doesn't have the injury concerns, he's the youngest ending player

2549
01:58:23,760 --> 01:58:25,600
Speaker 3: and he's a very uniquely talented wide receiver.

2550
01:58:27,240 --> 01:58:30,760
Speaker 1: My overall thought is this, I still believe the best

2551
01:58:30,800 --> 01:58:34,960
Speaker 1: opportunity to try and find or create the five to

2552
01:58:35,040 --> 01:58:38,200
Speaker 1: seven year window is through a young quarterback that you

2553
01:58:38,360 --> 01:58:41,240
Speaker 1: grow on that rookie contract and you build. That's not

2554
01:58:41,320 --> 01:58:44,160
Speaker 1: realistic for the current iteration of the Colts. They don't

2555
01:58:44,160 --> 01:58:45,600
Speaker 1: have a first round pick for the next two years,

2556
01:58:46,280 --> 01:58:49,640
Speaker 1: so now you have to pivot. And in my opinion,

2557
01:58:50,600 --> 01:58:53,920
Speaker 1: while my conviction on it is not very strong, the

2558
01:58:53,960 --> 01:58:58,400
Speaker 1: best hopeful guess at trying to sniff a Sam Darnold

2559
01:58:58,480 --> 01:59:03,839
Speaker 1: Seattle situation and is probably by scene of Daniel Jones

2560
01:59:05,360 --> 01:59:07,320
Speaker 1: can play close to what he did the first two

2561
01:59:07,360 --> 01:59:11,320
Speaker 1: months of the season over the next two years. Now again,

2562
01:59:11,480 --> 01:59:14,800
Speaker 1: he's coming off with torn achilles. The back of his

2563
01:59:14,800 --> 01:59:17,680
Speaker 1: baseball card would indicate A. He can't stay healthy. B

2564
01:59:18,240 --> 01:59:22,400
Speaker 1: he can't string together seventeen weeks of quality one full

2565
01:59:22,440 --> 01:59:24,920
Speaker 1: season in his first seven So again the conviction on

2566
01:59:24,960 --> 01:59:27,840
Speaker 1: that is not very high. But again, what else are

2567
01:59:27,880 --> 01:59:31,160
Speaker 1: you going to do here over the next eighteen month cycle,

2568
01:59:31,560 --> 01:59:32,600
Speaker 1: twenty four month cycle.

2569
01:59:33,160 --> 01:59:35,200
Speaker 2: I don't you.

2570
01:59:35,120 --> 01:59:41,640
Speaker 1: Know, Riley Leonard Malik Willis draft Tys Simpson in round two, Like,

2571
01:59:42,280 --> 01:59:44,600
Speaker 1: none of this sounds great. To me, none of the

2572
01:59:44,600 --> 01:59:47,680
Speaker 1: alternatives sound great to me, to be honest with you.

2573
01:59:47,760 --> 01:59:49,360
Speaker 1: So that is why I look at it and say,

2574
01:59:49,360 --> 01:59:52,360
Speaker 1: you know what, put some eggs in the Jones basket.

2575
01:59:52,480 --> 01:59:53,960
Speaker 1: Don't put a lot of them, but put some eggs

2576
01:59:53,960 --> 01:59:56,680
Speaker 1: in that basket. See what happens here over the next

2577
01:59:57,040 --> 02:00:00,800
Speaker 1: year or two, and then in all likelihood you'll have

2578
02:00:00,880 --> 02:00:01,839
Speaker 1: to find a new avenue.

2579
02:00:02,280 --> 02:00:03,880
Speaker 3: I know we got to hit a break, but real quick,

2580
02:00:03,960 --> 02:00:06,640
Speaker 3: the way I look at it KB and perspective I

2581
02:00:06,680 --> 02:00:11,200
Speaker 3: haven't really aired here on the show, is what do

2582
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Speaker 3: you tell a player like Quentin Nelson, a player doct

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02:00:14,680 --> 02:00:18,280
Speaker 3: the Forest Buckner and others who have played great football

2584
02:00:18,360 --> 02:00:22,800
Speaker 3: in recent years, if you let the quarterback that they

2585
02:00:22,960 --> 02:00:25,120
Speaker 3: believe in. I would say that Daniel Jones has one

2586
02:00:25,160 --> 02:00:27,160
Speaker 3: over that locker room. He's very well respected in there.

2587
02:00:27,200 --> 02:00:27,800
Speaker 2: They love him.

2588
02:00:28,960 --> 02:00:32,000
Speaker 3: If you somehow let him leave, how do you face

2589
02:00:32,040 --> 02:00:37,320
Speaker 3: those dudes and explain why again, a few months ago

2590
02:00:37,720 --> 02:00:40,440
Speaker 3: you thought you were a top four team in the

2591
02:00:40,560 --> 02:00:42,600
Speaker 3: NFL according to Chris Ballad when you were eight and two.

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Speaker 2: How do you explain letting the guy who help get

2593
02:00:45,280 --> 02:00:46,200
Speaker 2: you there leave?

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02:00:48,160 --> 02:00:52,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear you out on that boy. I keep

2595
02:00:52,680 --> 02:00:54,200
Speaker 1: on coming back to the question I asked about her

2596
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Speaker 1: last week about his leadership. I mean, the are the

2597
02:00:56,160 --> 02:00:58,120
Speaker 1: same dudes that you've had the same leaders and you've

2598
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Speaker 1: won nothing.

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Speaker 2: I agree, But again I just think that.

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Speaker 1: You're not wrong. But I'm just kind of like, I

2601
02:01:04,880 --> 02:01:07,600
Speaker 1: feel like we're holding these colts captains to this crazy

2602
02:01:07,680 --> 02:01:10,000
Speaker 1: high and mighty stand. And look, Quentin Nelson obviously has

2603
02:01:10,000 --> 02:01:12,520
Speaker 1: been an exceptional player. Nelson probably deserves being a different

2604
02:01:12,560 --> 02:01:16,360
Speaker 1: category honestly everybody else. But it's just a little bit

2605
02:01:16,360 --> 02:01:19,800
Speaker 1: of like I can only listen to the to your

2606
02:01:19,840 --> 02:01:21,600
Speaker 1: locker room so long.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it's necessarily owe it to your

2608
02:01:23,440 --> 02:01:24,640
Speaker 2: locker room. I just think that.

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Speaker 3: I look at it like this, Kevin, maybe i'd explain

2610
02:01:28,040 --> 02:01:31,680
Speaker 3: it very well. How many times are you gonna tell

2611
02:01:31,720 --> 02:01:33,360
Speaker 3: us you found the guy and then we got to

2612
02:01:33,400 --> 02:01:34,040
Speaker 3: go do this again?

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Speaker 2: That's what I meant.

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Speaker 3: And I think like Quentin Nelson is sick of having

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Speaker 3: probably another quarterback every single year of his career.

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Speaker 1: Sure, And I think where you're especially right is it's

2617
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Speaker 1: the reason why carly ERSA. Gordon decided to retain everybody.

2618
02:01:46,920 --> 02:01:48,880
Speaker 1: That to me is probably more of the root of it.

2619
02:01:49,320 --> 02:01:52,400
Speaker 1: She again said two months greater than eight years. Yeah,

2620
02:01:52,520 --> 02:01:57,240
Speaker 1: So therefore the reason why everyone is back is because

2621
02:01:57,720 --> 02:02:00,360
Speaker 1: they're going to try to recreate the first two months. Well,

2622
02:02:00,360 --> 02:02:03,120
Speaker 1: in order to recreate the first two months, Daniel Jones

2623
02:02:03,160 --> 02:02:05,800
Speaker 1: and Alec Pearce need to be wearing Colts uniforms on

2624
02:02:05,840 --> 02:02:06,720
Speaker 1: September thirteenth.

2625
02:02:06,800 --> 02:02:09,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, or whatever you said, we were the real deal.

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Speaker 2: Make it happen.

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Speaker 1: One final time Fan Morning Show. This is Kevin Bow

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02:02:13,840 --> 02:02:15,160
Speaker 1: and James Boyd Mark Dyketon.

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Speaker 9: You were listening to a fan morning show and on

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02:02:21,120 --> 02:02:26,760
Speaker 9: sports radio.

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Speaker 1: Every time I hear this song, Mark, I think of

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02:02:30,160 --> 02:02:35,840
Speaker 1: images of the decade Sports Center from two thousand to

2633
02:02:35,840 --> 02:02:39,720
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine. This was one of the main

2634
02:02:39,920 --> 02:02:46,200
Speaker 1: songs the Flocks from that six seven minute YouTube video.

2635
02:02:46,320 --> 02:02:48,960
Speaker 2: I love that video basically showing.

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Speaker 1: In all the highlight frankly some of the low lights. Highlights,

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02:02:51,320 --> 02:02:55,400
Speaker 1: low lights, good bad, the death, the tragedy, everything that

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Speaker 1: happened in that decade kind of surrounding sports. It's a great,

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02:02:58,400 --> 02:03:01,480
Speaker 1: great watch. It might be a little grainy on YouTube,

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02:03:01,520 --> 02:03:04,240
Speaker 1: but a little different than my thoughts when I hear

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02:03:04,280 --> 02:03:07,600
Speaker 1: the Ying Yang tween well clock today, obviously clock is

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02:03:07,640 --> 02:03:11,000
Speaker 1: ticking for the cost and even put that together. Mark

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02:03:11,160 --> 02:03:16,800
Speaker 1: Gosh are ticking? You are good? Speaking of good, Cluster Truck,

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Speaker 1: they ain't good. They great. I was there Friday. They

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Speaker 1: have opened up in Carmel. So how about that? Who

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Speaker 1: are Caramel Lightes out there right there? One hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty six? Im ridian but they deliver all over up there,

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Speaker 1: so big fan the promo code five dollars off that

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Speaker 1: order of twenty five or more. Thank you to Cluster

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Speaker 1: Truck for that and again the grand opening up there

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Speaker 1: in Carmel on Friday.

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02:03:40,960 --> 02:03:43,960
Speaker 3: Shout out Evan Cheryl by the way, again one of

2653
02:03:44,000 --> 02:03:44,880
Speaker 3: the best humans around.

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02:03:45,240 --> 02:03:48,760
Speaker 1: Great human. Yes, ball State through and through chirp, chirp

2655
02:03:48,920 --> 02:03:50,200
Speaker 1: to the Michael Lewises of the world.

2656
02:03:50,200 --> 02:03:51,240
Speaker 2: Maybe ball State will.

2657
02:03:51,120 --> 02:03:53,000
Speaker 1: Shock my Ohio and the mac tournament.

2658
02:03:53,080 --> 02:03:55,920
Speaker 2: Oh boy, Evan Cherrow and I believe Mike Chapple would

2659
02:03:55,960 --> 02:03:56,200
Speaker 2: love that.

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02:03:56,440 --> 02:04:00,280
Speaker 1: Can you imagine Colleen Bowen also a Colleen Donod my

2661
02:04:00,400 --> 02:04:02,720
Speaker 1: mother a ball State product?

2662
02:04:02,760 --> 02:04:05,440
Speaker 2: Okay, okay. I didn't realize when I went there that

2663
02:04:05,520 --> 02:04:06,520
Speaker 2: David Letterman went there.

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02:04:07,720 --> 02:04:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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02:04:08,080 --> 02:04:09,640
Speaker 3: I went and I was like, Wow, your journalism school

2666
02:04:09,640 --> 02:04:11,000
Speaker 3: is really great, and they're like, yeah, this is why

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02:04:11,000 --> 02:04:12,440
Speaker 3: I like Oh that makes sense.

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02:04:12,480 --> 02:04:15,960
Speaker 1: Great journalism school products right here in our own backyards

2669
02:04:16,000 --> 02:04:18,600
Speaker 1: for sure, oiling jeremih Johnson among others. You know, it's funny.

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02:04:18,640 --> 02:04:20,640
Speaker 1: I told you guys earlier. I was watching the twenty

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02:04:20,680 --> 02:04:24,160
Speaker 1: two minute and again I'm a loser the twenty two minutes.

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02:04:24,240 --> 02:04:26,640
Speaker 2: Oh, it sounds like winning to me. March Mann, we'll

2673
02:04:26,640 --> 02:04:29,120
Speaker 2: talk about my friend. Like that buzzer beater video.

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02:04:29,960 --> 02:04:33,720
Speaker 1: My a lot of great epic, epic buzzer beaters in

2675
02:04:33,760 --> 02:04:37,160
Speaker 1: that video. The favorite one might be Ron Hunter falling

2676
02:04:37,200 --> 02:04:39,440
Speaker 1: off the stool when RJ Hunter.

2677
02:04:39,360 --> 02:04:41,800
Speaker 2: Oh that was great, hit the three, that was great.

2678
02:04:42,120 --> 02:04:44,560
Speaker 1: He falls off the stool. His assistants got to like

2679
02:04:44,640 --> 02:04:46,640
Speaker 1: kind of help him back up to the stool. I mean,

2680
02:04:46,840 --> 02:04:50,360
Speaker 1: just so so good. I can't wait for march I

2681
02:04:50,360 --> 02:04:51,800
Speaker 1: said it earlier. I think there was a lot of great,

2682
02:04:51,800 --> 02:04:54,480
Speaker 1: great storylines. I know we're biased here, but like you know,

2683
02:04:54,520 --> 02:04:57,120
Speaker 1: also a storyline is this is the best Big Ten

2684
02:04:57,160 --> 02:04:59,560
Speaker 1: we've seen in quite a while. Are we finally going

2685
02:04:59,600 --> 02:05:02,640
Speaker 1: to break that curse? Did we finally get the Big

2686
02:05:02,680 --> 02:05:05,240
Speaker 1: Ten champion? Did Michigan State win it?

2687
02:05:05,280 --> 02:05:05,400
Speaker 4: All?

2688
02:05:05,440 --> 02:05:06,360
Speaker 1: Here was out the dome?

2689
02:05:07,160 --> 02:05:08,520
Speaker 2: Boy, it was quite a while ago.

2690
02:05:08,560 --> 02:05:11,400
Speaker 3: Every time we talk about the drought, I forget, like, yeah,

2691
02:05:11,400 --> 02:05:12,560
Speaker 3: that is a thing I'm.

2692
02:05:12,400 --> 02:05:15,640
Speaker 1: Trying to think of teen Cleeves, picturing him like running

2693
02:05:15,640 --> 02:05:18,120
Speaker 1: down the dome. For some reason, Charlie Bell.

2694
02:05:18,200 --> 02:05:19,880
Speaker 3: I will say this is talking about buzzer beater? Is

2695
02:05:19,880 --> 02:05:23,360
Speaker 3: Slinstones the one I'm thinking of right now? KB twenty ten,

2696
02:05:23,840 --> 02:05:26,720
Speaker 3: when I believe Northern Iowa knocked off Kansas.

2697
02:05:26,760 --> 02:05:30,280
Speaker 2: It was like a last second, yes.

2698
02:05:30,440 --> 02:05:32,640
Speaker 3: But the guts to take the pull up three and

2699
02:05:32,720 --> 02:05:34,840
Speaker 3: basically barry the Jayhawks.

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02:05:35,080 --> 02:05:36,560
Speaker 2: That was epic. That's what I love about.

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02:05:36,640 --> 02:05:40,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Another one from Northern Iowa. Jessperson was a kid's

2702
02:05:40,080 --> 02:05:42,880
Speaker 1: name a half court shot a few years back, like

2703
02:05:43,000 --> 02:05:46,000
Speaker 1: true half court shot. I had kind of forgotten about

2704
02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:48,880
Speaker 1: that one. So yeah, twenty As I wait till four

2705
02:05:48,880 --> 02:05:50,920
Speaker 1: o'clock in the franchise tag deadline, I might watch a

2706
02:05:50,960 --> 02:05:53,480
Speaker 1: twenty two minute March Madnics video like eight more times say.

2707
02:05:53,360 --> 02:05:55,120
Speaker 2: You got time, you got plenty of time.

2708
02:05:55,480 --> 02:05:57,840
Speaker 1: Plenty of time to get that. Uh so again we've

2709
02:05:57,880 --> 02:06:00,879
Speaker 1: gone over it all morning long. The franchise tag deadline

2710
02:06:01,280 --> 02:06:04,280
Speaker 1: today at four o'clock the Colts, unless they want to

2711
02:06:04,280 --> 02:06:07,040
Speaker 1: get long term deals done again, we won't necessarily get

2712
02:06:07,080 --> 02:06:10,920
Speaker 1: news on both Daniel Jones and Alex Pearce today. That's

2713
02:06:10,960 --> 02:06:15,120
Speaker 1: not necessarily something that it could happen, But I probably

2714
02:06:15,200 --> 02:06:16,200
Speaker 1: argue it's not very likely.

2715
02:06:16,320 --> 02:06:18,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, from a business standpoint, if you're the person that

2716
02:06:18,640 --> 02:06:21,640
Speaker 3: doesn't get tagged, why would you agree to anything right now?

2717
02:06:21,680 --> 02:06:24,600
Speaker 1: You don't have to, you can, but right I mean,

2718
02:06:24,640 --> 02:06:26,760
Speaker 1: there is part of me that assumes the Colts like

2719
02:06:28,440 --> 02:06:30,520
Speaker 1: they want to make sure that they do both of

2720
02:06:30,560 --> 02:06:33,080
Speaker 1: these things in conjunction with each other. Oh yes, so

2721
02:06:34,280 --> 02:06:35,880
Speaker 1: you know again, do we get any clarity on that?

2722
02:06:35,920 --> 02:06:40,800
Speaker 1: But four o'clock today, franchise tag deadline here for the Colts.

2723
02:06:41,720 --> 02:06:44,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this is going to be obviously very newsworthy,

2724
02:06:44,760 --> 02:06:45,960
Speaker 3: not only for the Colts, but I think the rest

2725
02:06:46,000 --> 02:06:48,760
Speaker 3: of the league is kind of watching to see what happens,

2726
02:06:48,800 --> 02:06:51,880
Speaker 3: what do they do to maybe have a trickle down

2727
02:06:51,880 --> 02:06:54,960
Speaker 3: effect not only on their roster or rosters across the

2728
02:06:54,960 --> 02:06:59,440
Speaker 3: rest of the league. So for me, if I had

2729
02:06:59,440 --> 02:07:03,720
Speaker 3: to pick right now, I'm probably I'm probably gonna tag Daniel.

2730
02:07:04,800 --> 02:07:08,640
Speaker 3: I'm probably going to tag Daniel transition tag and make

2731
02:07:08,680 --> 02:07:12,080
Speaker 3: sure the quarterback that I have called my franchise dude

2732
02:07:12,960 --> 02:07:15,640
Speaker 3: doesn't leave me and I get back to work and

2733
02:07:15,640 --> 02:07:18,080
Speaker 3: try to make sure Alec Pearson come back. And I

2734
02:07:18,160 --> 02:07:21,200
Speaker 3: hope that when he said bringing Daniel back goes a

2735
02:07:21,240 --> 02:07:23,680
Speaker 3: long way for him, that that matters a little bit

2736
02:07:23,720 --> 02:07:28,720
Speaker 3: when we're putting some numbers out there. I don't love that,

2737
02:07:29,720 --> 02:07:33,160
Speaker 3: but I do think that's a real possibility, because again,

2738
02:07:34,240 --> 02:07:37,400
Speaker 3: the QB position matters so much, and you stamped him

2739
02:07:37,440 --> 02:07:41,200
Speaker 3: as your guy, and.

2740
02:07:41,160 --> 02:07:44,000
Speaker 2: You don't have a backup plan. Mark, you have a

2741
02:07:44,040 --> 02:07:45,240
Speaker 2: smile on your face.

2742
02:07:45,840 --> 02:07:50,040
Speaker 5: Because I could see that happening. I would tag Alec

2743
02:07:50,080 --> 02:07:52,680
Speaker 5: Pierce because I think the higher demand will be for

2744
02:07:52,720 --> 02:07:54,880
Speaker 5: Alec Pearce in the free agency market, and if you

2745
02:07:54,920 --> 02:07:58,080
Speaker 5: allow him to test those waters, he will be gone.

2746
02:07:58,840 --> 02:08:02,680
Speaker 1: So starting Quarterback twenty twenty six would be who you hope.

2747
02:08:02,480 --> 02:08:07,240
Speaker 5: The Daniel Jones The market isn't as fruitful, Yeah.

2748
02:08:06,560 --> 02:08:07,640
Speaker 1: And you can bring him back.

2749
02:08:07,680 --> 02:08:07,880
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2750
02:08:07,920 --> 02:08:09,280
Speaker 1: I think it's a good debate.

2751
02:08:09,520 --> 02:08:13,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I mean the idea, it's it's a tough decision.

2752
02:08:13,520 --> 02:08:15,800
Speaker 1: There is some risk obviously when it comes to that.

2753
02:08:16,000 --> 02:08:18,600
Speaker 1: And yes, I've seen several people reached out here. Obviously,

2754
02:08:18,600 --> 02:08:21,000
Speaker 1: the Brice Drew buzzer beater is epic. I always am

2755
02:08:21,000 --> 02:08:23,840
Speaker 1: struck by the throw and then the past to Brice Drew.

2756
02:08:24,080 --> 02:08:27,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Pacer, I believe the play. Jamie Sykes, is that right?

2757
02:08:27,440 --> 02:08:30,320
Speaker 1: I believe was the orchestrator on one of those two.

2758
02:08:31,160 --> 02:08:33,440
Speaker 1: That's a play you'll see one thousand percent. That is

2759
02:08:33,440 --> 02:08:35,880
Speaker 1: a play. You will see a team draw up here

2760
02:08:35,880 --> 02:08:38,840
Speaker 1: in Sectional week. Oh, if you are a State of

2761
02:08:38,880 --> 02:08:42,640
Speaker 1: Indiana team, you are drawing up some version of Pacer here.

2762
02:08:42,720 --> 02:08:43,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you need it.

2763
02:08:44,000 --> 02:08:46,560
Speaker 1: You get the baseball player to throw the pass in.

2764
02:08:46,880 --> 02:08:49,280
Speaker 1: You find the big guy at whatever the free throw line,

2765
02:08:49,320 --> 02:08:51,400
Speaker 1: maybe the three point line. He gudges at boom, your

2766
02:08:51,440 --> 02:08:54,440
Speaker 1: best shooter sprinting down to try to hit the free.

2767
02:08:54,600 --> 02:08:57,120
Speaker 3: Still waiting for the Ginny Boussek football play to be

2768
02:08:57,120 --> 02:08:59,680
Speaker 3: deployed as sectional the wide receiver.

2769
02:09:00,080 --> 02:09:01,480
Speaker 1: Only a matter of time. If it hasn't, all right,

2770
02:09:01,680 --> 02:09:04,240
Speaker 1: everyone go along early bird special for the fan golf

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Speaker 1: be live tomorrow out at Hinklefield. Has great specials fan

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Speaker 1: appreciation Night, some cheap beer and food prices for that

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Speaker 1: Butler and Creighton Tomorrow night six o'clock JMB will be

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Speaker 1: live out there. I might join them for.

2778
02:09:24,200 --> 02:09:25,800
Speaker 2: Our Wednesday segment.

2779
02:09:26,040 --> 02:09:28,880
Speaker 1: And pretty quiet today from a sports standpoint locally, but again,

2780
02:09:28,920 --> 02:09:32,600
Speaker 1: the franchise tag deadline four o'clock and Jake and John

2781
02:09:32,640 --> 02:09:35,920
Speaker 1: will have you covered. Jeff, we'll be back tomorrow. Kevin Bowen,

2782
02:09:36,040 --> 02:09:38,839
Speaker 1: James Boyd, Mark Dyton signing off. Thanks for listening.