1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: It was a hammer in Nigel Show on Nigel Hammers here. Boy, 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: that terrorist attack that the FBI broke up for New 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: Year's Eve is scary to think about. I mean, they 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: announced they followed some credible terror plot plan for New 5 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: Year's Eve in southern California, arrested four members of some 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: radical leftist pro Palestinian extremist group. And they were serious. 7 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: I mean, these guys were serious. 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,279 Speaker 2: It wasn't just going to be New Year's Eve. They 9 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: wanted multiple bombs to take place after the fact. This 10 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: was like a network the Turtle Island Liberation Front, which again, 11 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: as you said, this far left pro Palestinian, anti government, 12 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: anti capitalist group. They were planning to do a bunch 13 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 2: of bombings in southern California right at the stroke of 14 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: midnights on New Year's Eve, and then afterwards. I believe 15 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: they were going after ice agents, ice vehicles. Here's a 16 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: little bit from that press conference earlier today from the FBI, 17 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 2: and it's are. 18 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 3: All radical anti government members of the Turtle Island Liberation Front, 19 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 3: which according to their own social media is an anti capitalist, 20 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 3: anti government movement that calls for their associates to rise 21 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 3: up and fight back against capitalism? What are the leaders 22 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 3: of the organization? Defendant Audrey Carroll helped organize an even 23 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 3: more radical faction of the group called the Order of 24 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 3: the Black Lotus. Each of the defendants charged today was 25 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 3: also a member of the Order of the Black Lotus. 26 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 3: Carroll described this group to her co conspirators as everything radical. 27 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 3: As detailed in the federal complaint which we will now 28 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 3: make public. In November twenty twenty five, defendant Carroll created 29 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 3: a detailed bombing plot to use explosive devices to attack 30 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 3: five or more locations across southern California on this upcoming 31 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 3: New Year's Eve. Keryl and her co defendant Zachary Page 32 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 3: led the effort to obtain and build the bombs and 33 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 3: to recruit others to join in their plot. 34 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: And man, it just makes you wonder how many of 35 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: these little cells are currently out there right now. The 36 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 2: FBI was able to find this one, but how many 37 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: of them do we not know about. That's the scary 38 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: thing to think about it. 39 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: I mean, look at Biden's open border for four years. 40 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's where these people came from, but 41 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: there's hundreds of terrorists on that list that got through 42 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: that border that are still walking around aimlessly throughout the 43 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: United States looking for ways to cause trouble. 44 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: And again, it's been a busy, hectic news cycle, but 45 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,839 Speaker 2: this I think is a really important story. Yeah, here's 46 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: a little bit more from this FBI press or earlier today. 47 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 3: Carol's bomb plot was explicit. It included a step by 48 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 3: step instructions to build IEDs or improvised explosive devices, and 49 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 3: listed multiple targets across Orange County and Law Angeles. Carol 50 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 3: also made clear her desires. She said, quote what we 51 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 3: are doing will be considered a terrorist act. Carol and 52 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 3: Paige also discussed plans for follow up attacks after their bombings, 53 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 3: which included plans to a target ice agents and vehicles 54 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 3: with pipe bombs. Carol stated that those plans would quote 55 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 3: take some of them out and scare the rest. Throughout 56 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 3: early December, the co conspirators discussed their plans during an 57 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 3: in person meeting in Los Angeles and through an encrypted 58 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 3: messaging application. As part of the plan, the four defendants 59 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: plan to build test bombs in the Mojave Desert. 60 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: So they were going to build bombs, do tests in 61 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: the Mojave like it feels like you know, I'm glad 62 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 2: the FBI was able to catch this, but if you're 63 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: able to just go out and do test bombings, no, 64 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: it feels like, with all the technology that exists, how 65 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: does that happen. 66 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: It's a couple couple things that come to mind when 67 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about this. First of all, and I'm glad 68 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: the FBI is taking this seriously, But how seriously can 69 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: you take an organization with the word turtle in its 70 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: name ran by Carol? 71 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 2: Like when you hear terrorist names the word carol, does 72 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: it normally flow up the tongue? 73 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: And second of all, these guys probably consider themselves revolutionaries. 74 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: I watched a movie the other day. I don't know 75 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: if we've talked about it or not. One battle after 76 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: another with Leo DiCaprio and I think Sean Penn's in it. 77 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: This is whole thing right here. What we're talking about 78 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: is what the movie's about, and it kind of glamorizes 79 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: it and it is. It just made me sick to 80 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: my stomach that I spent money watching that movie with DiCaprio. 81 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: Was that a turd? 82 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: It was awful, and it was it was kind of 83 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: about what these these things that we were meant here 84 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: revolutionaries people. 85 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 2: You know, this is what Michigan wanted you to think. 86 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: Trump supporters were exactly you know, the kidnapped Gretchen Whitmer. 87 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 2: Make sure you say that on tape in my microphone, 88 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: like that's what this is. But these people were legit. 89 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: Now you're right, I shouldn't be scared of the Turtle 90 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 2: Island Liberation Front, and I assure as hell aren't scared 91 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 2: of Carol. But here they are, and they came to play, 92 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 2: and I'm glad the FBI did their thing. Uh, the 93 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: other