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Speaker 1: What dealing do we actually have here? What dealing is

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Speaker 1: How does this work? Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, good

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Speaker 1: negotiating with them regarding the nuclear program. Well, if you're

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Speaker 1: start with what we know. According to Newsmax, the second

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Speaker 1: So make sure we're clear here. We're not talking about

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Speaker 1: This is flight tracking data. Air traffic control communications are showing.

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Speaker 1: Now we know. Hold on a second, do I have

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Speaker 1: We don't one hundred percent trust you, but compared to

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Speaker 1: This is Tony Katz today,