1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: This is track side with Kirk Cavan and Kevin Lee 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: on ninety three to. 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 2: Five and one oh seven five are bad. 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's funny, feel very out of place, 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 3: but once you get in the car and you get rolling, 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 3: then it's just like, oh yeah, it's an Indyguard just 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 3: gone through the same processes. So yeah, very good, very good. 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 3: First few runs, plenty of works due and I wants 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 3: to feel. 10 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: The Hondo engine. 11 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 3: It's very good, very good. It's definitely looking forward to 12 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 3: getting pen amongst a little more cars and see where 13 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 3: we stuck up. 14 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, goals for today. 15 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: Was really all about Firestone. 16 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 3: I'm just trying to. 17 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 4: They've already had a test here in I believe it 18 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 4: was late November, so you know, kind of confirming some 19 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 4: of the learnings from that and then trying. 20 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: To add that last little detail before. 21 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 4: We come back here Debuary. 22 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: If everywhere's gonna be a lot better, we're gonna have 23 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: all the cars. 24 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: Who's cold today? 25 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 4: It's still drivable, you know, it's about fifty five sixty degrees, 26 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 4: but maybe not where we're going to in Marsh, But 27 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 4: definitely got through a lot of running to tick the 28 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 4: boxes for Firestone, make sure that you know they understand 29 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 4: what they want to bring back here and yeah, happy 30 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 4: with that. 31 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty six is here and we had IndyCars on 32 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: track today at Phoenix. 33 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: You just heard from Will Power. 34 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: And Joseph Neugarden who were testing for Firestone. Since we 35 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: last talked last year. We have start times for IndyCar 36 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: races on Fox in twenty twenty six. Twenty twenty seven 37 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: has already entered the chat with Tony Kannan providing a 38 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: clear mark for what it will take for Nolan Siegel 39 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: to continue beyond this year. About half the IndyCar field 40 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: will be at Daytona in a week for the Royal 41 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: X twenty four and more. We're confirmed today and one 42 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: of them takes a driver off the list of possibilities 43 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: for dale Coin Racing. As the weight continues for the 44 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: final IndyCar seat to be filled. Hello, Welcome, Happy New Year. 45 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: It's track sided on ninety three to five one oh 46 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: seven five. The fan land in Coons is in our 47 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: studio downtown Indianapolis. Kevin Lee Kurk Cabin Kurt I spent 48 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: all of Christmas Eve tracking Santa on Nora Ad as 49 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: I always do, and also refreshing the Twitter box and 50 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: my email waiting for the dale coin announcements. 51 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 5: I thought you were going to say you were tracking 52 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 5: dale coin on Nora d uh, which would be an 53 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 5: interesting proposition, But yeah, I didn't. 54 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: I didn't say that very dale Coin like to send 55 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: out that an announcement at ten am on Christmas morning. 56 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: I thought that would be perfect. 57 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, dale doesn't always deliver in the manner that US 58 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 5: newsmakers uh and news uh deliverers would like, but yeah, 59 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 5: just it just adds a little more intrigue. I was 60 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 5: making a list of things still, you know, we'd still 61 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 5: be waiting on from a news standpoint, and other than 62 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 5: having results on the test that are that are ahead, 63 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 5: but not a lot of news left between now and 64 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 5: the first race of the season. There will get some, 65 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 5: but that's that's one of the few things we've got. 66 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 5: So we'll see what that when that becomes, and what 67 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 5: it is when it arrives. 68 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: I haven't thought about that for a while, but just 69 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: off the top of my head, that's number one. I 70 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: think number two is I still want to know who 71 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: the engineers are for the Penske cars, and that's a 72 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: pretty big deal. 73 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 2: And this is a. 74 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: This is just such a massively intriguing story for twenty 75 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: twenty six. Wouldn't shock me to see Penske win the 76 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: championship and finish one two win the championship, and it 77 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't shock me to see them struggle for another year 78 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: and finish no better than six seventh eight something like 79 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: that with their their top car this year. So I 80 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: want to know how that goes. I think it'll be fine. 81 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: And the people that they elevated, Dave Fostino and Brent Bretzman, 82 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: are very worthy of that. I would say that they've 83 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: been overdue to be put in a leadership position. But 84 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: do they have the people to replace them on the 85 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: engineering stand that's the other question. And then if you've 86 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: just elevated the performance engineer, you know, do you have 87 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: a performance engineer. It's it's all about depth. That Penske 88 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: is better situated to deal with this than most other teams. 89 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: But that wasn't the only reason last year, and they 90 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: had a lot of bad luck as well, a lot 91 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: of things go on, but they were not going to 92 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: say awful. They were awful to Penske standards, but they 93 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: were mediocre. I think that's probably the more accurate way 94 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: to look at it, just big picture, not grading them 95 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,239 Speaker 1: on a harsh curve. They were kind of mediocre last. 96 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 5: Year, Well they were, Yeah, they were really mediocre. I 97 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 5: mean they were ninth, tenth, and twelfth in the championship 98 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 5: amongst the drivers. That's just above midpack. Yeah, but not 99 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 5: for a top tier team. That's that's bad for a 100 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 5: top tier team. I mean, if Meyer Shank Racing goes nine, ten, twelve, 101 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 5: they're probably not satisfied, but they're a little more realistic 102 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 5: about the challenge as of a wait. And I don't 103 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 5: mean to disregard Meyer Shank Racing, but when you're Team 104 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 5: Penske and you've had the success that you've had, you know, 105 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 5: no one outside of Chip Ganassi Racing, no other organization 106 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 5: has had a better you know, two decade run, let 107 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 5: alone multiple decades beyond that, I think it's the Team 108 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 5: Penske bounce back. If if that's what we end up seeing, 109 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 5: I think it's the biggest non Alex Pelos story of 110 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 5: twenty twenty six. How that plays out. If they continue 111 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 5: to be mediocre, it's you know, it's it's going to 112 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 5: be one thing. If they're back in the mix that's 113 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 5: another just to watch, watch it flow, and you know, 114 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 5: kind of just you know, we would probably talk about 115 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 5: some other storylines at a later date. But all up 116 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 5: and down the lineup through the field, except for it 117 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 5: Chip Ganassi Racing. We got new strategists, new team managers, 118 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 5: new team principle. It's like we took those employees across 119 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 5: the lineup the landscape and shook them all up because 120 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 5: now we've got X Team Penske guys running Andretti, we 121 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 5: got X at Aero McLaren guys running, Ray Hall Letterman, 122 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 5: and you know, strategy wise, I mean all up and 123 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 5: down the list. There's all up and down the grid. 124 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 5: There are changes in those positions at one team or another. 125 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 5: Except at chip Ganassi Racing. The team everyone's trying to 126 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 5: be so Team Penske will be at the forefront of 127 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 5: that intrigue, but there's going to be that intrigue at 128 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 5: all the teams. It's going to take it's going to 129 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 5: take you taking, you know, this puzzle piece and showing 130 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 5: that it fits in this puzzle slot and how everything 131 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 5: is different when you get to Saint Pete and. 132 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: I think the other team that is the most stable 133 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: has the most continuity is the team that has a 134 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: technical partnership with Ganassi. 135 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: And that's Meyer Shank Racing. 136 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:54,119 Speaker 5: YEP. 137 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 2: I don't think they have any changes. 138 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: You know, there's always going to be a few coup 139 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: changes here and there, but they're going to be pretty 140 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: and I think Aaron MacLaren is pretty stable. 141 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 2: Now. They did lose some people. 142 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: Losing Brian Barnhardt is going to have an impact. Losing 143 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: a few crew people and know they lost at least couple, 144 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: so that's going to have an impact. But they've got 145 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: I think the engineers and their drivers still in the 146 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: same situation, but everybody else. Yeah, a lot of changes, 147 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: and yeah, you're right. We'll make a list of biggest storylines. 148 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: But I'm going to put real high willpower and angry willpower, 149 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: a determined will power. Now he was in angry willpower 150 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: at times last year too, wondering why no one has 151 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: offered him an extension, And it's also going to be 152 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: fascinating a more loose will power who was pretty loose 153 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: even under the Penske standards. This did not seem like 154 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: a guy that really was too worried about a filter. 155 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,559 Speaker 1: But if there was any filter for will the last 156 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: few years with some of the memorable moments that mostly 157 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: I've had Dan Welch has had a few times. What's 158 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: he going to be like if he has no worries 159 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: at all. My guess is it's going to be the same. 160 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: Will is not going to be any kind of a 161 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: canon or anything like that, But because I think he's 162 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: had gotten to the point within the last few years 163 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: where it's I'm going to do what i want to 164 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: do within reason. I'm going to try to represent my 165 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: team to the best of my ability and not embarrass them. 166 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: And I think he will still maintain that standard because 167 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure he does feel a lot of gratitude for 168 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: this extra life and a multi year contract and a 169 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: chance to win and be competitive and show that he 170 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: still has something. 171 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 2: You know. 172 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 5: To connect that with the news of the day is 173 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 5: you know, can you imagine how odd it was for 174 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 5: both Will and Joseph Newgarten today at Phoenix when they 175 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 5: tested for Firestone in different parts of pitt Lane. You know, 176 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 5: they are used to being teammates. As I was going 177 00:08:55,440 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 5: back and researching when Will Power joined Team Penske in 178 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 5: two thousand and nine, is a stand in for Lio Castroneves. 179 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 5: Early in that particular season, Joseph was just heading to 180 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 5: Europe to be in the British Formula four. British Formula four. 181 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 5: I mean, that's how far back that has to go. 182 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 5: He was eighteen years old at the time. Joseph was 183 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 5: so from a US professional racing career. Joseph k Neugarten 184 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 5: doesn't know Will Power at any other race team besides 185 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 5: Team Penske. I mean, it's just it's kind of been 186 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 5: his whole adult life. Will has been at Team Penske 187 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 5: seventeen years, and so you know that had to be 188 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 5: a strange situation for both of them. I know, we 189 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 5: you know, got some sound from Will today and you 190 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 5: know he's like, yeah, once I get in the car, 191 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 5: it's kind of the same thing. The cars are kind 192 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 5: of the same to go through the same processes and 193 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 5: you try to achieve the same things, and it's helpful 194 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 5: when there are more cars than just one and you're 195 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 5: just here to do tire testing. But ultimately everything else 196 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 5: that's happened with Will joining Andretti's team, you know, they 197 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 5: couldn't he couldn't start working with him until January first, 198 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 5: do the contract with Team Penske, but these few days 199 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 5: of January have to be very strange all up until 200 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 5: the point Will actually got in the race car, and 201 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 5: that was today, so you know it's going to be 202 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 5: a fascinating story for sure. 203 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: And the other thing that struck me, you know, we 204 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: heard from Newgarden as well, and by the way, thanks 205 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: to Andy Carr for the audio, and I'm going to 206 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: guess some of that has posted on their YouTube channel. 207 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: Day First was out there at Phoenix today doing some interviews. 208 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: What also struck me is over the break, Joseph Neugarten 209 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: celebrated his thirty fifth birthday. I didn't think of him 210 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: as a kid anymore, but I do still think of 211 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: him as young ish, and thirty five is young ish. 212 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: But that's just a number that strikes me differently than 213 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: thirty one, thirty two. That all right, this guy now, 214 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 1: he could easily still be in the middle of his 215 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: career if he chooses to do so. You can drive 216 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: until your late forties, like Scott Dixon is showing that 217 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: you can do mid to late forties. But thirty five 218 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: says that you've seen more than you're going to see 219 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 1: most likely in your career. 220 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 5: And will power the same thing. He's deep into his 221 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 5: forties as well as along with you know indie only 222 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 5: drivers like Ed Carpenter and Elio Castroneves. And you know, 223 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 5: Elio drove at age fifty, so you know there is 224 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 5: there certainly is a lot to that. And you know, 225 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 5: when I think of Joseph, not just that he's thirty five, 226 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 5: it's that he's pretty well down the road. Now I'm 227 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 5: being a dad, you know, I still think of him 228 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 5: as such a kid. You know, he's I'm not a kid, 229 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. He just feels like he 230 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 5: was joining Sarah Fisher's team years you know, it was 231 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 5: years ago, but it feels like it was like two 232 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 5: months ago. So it's you know, his career has been 233 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 5: fun to watch. We've watched it from the start once 234 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 5: he came back to the States through Indie Lights and 235 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 5: now the IndyCar Series. So I agree with you, it's 236 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 5: it's still hard to believe he's that deep into his career. 237 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: Maybe we are too. 238 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, what a dynamic that will be because I don't 239 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: know this. I don't know if it's been one reported, 240 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: but most feel the New Garden is a free agents 241 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: at the end of the year. And there's always asterisks 242 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: and contracts, so I'm not certain of that, but it 243 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: seems like there's a good chance. And how's that going 244 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: to go? You know, if he gets off to a 245 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: good start, that'll end that speculation pretty quickly because my 246 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: guess is he's not going anywhere. But if it's anywhere 247 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: close to what last season was like minus disqualifications, I'm 248 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: not even talking about that consideration, which he has had 249 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: each of the last two years to some extent. So 250 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: even say there's none of that involved, if it doesn't 251 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: go well, then that's going to be one to watch. 252 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: And you've already had the McLaren team boss say hey, 253 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: we're probably gonna have an opening next year. I think 254 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna let everybody know that that, you know, unless 255 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: Nolan Siegel finishes in the top ten. 256 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 2: Tony Kanaan said this. 257 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: To Motorsport Good get by Joey Barnes, who returned to 258 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 1: motorsport dot Com recently, And we'll get into this a 259 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: little bit more later, but finishing in the top ten 260 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: is going to be pretty hard for Nolan Siegel to do. 261 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: That seems like a really high bar to judge him 262 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: having a successful season. Start counting how many quality drivers 263 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: there are. We do this all the time when I 264 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: say someone should finish top five or top six, and 265 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: then it's well, I mean, he's got to be this guy, 266 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: this guy, this guy. You get to ten very quickly. 267 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 5: It gets late early, as you often say. You know, 268 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 5: you just take the example we just described from a 269 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 5: year ago. It was Power, McLaughlin and Newgarden finishing ninth, 270 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 5: tenth and twelfth. Now we all expect those to be 271 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 5: you know, improved numbers in twenty twenty six. But that 272 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 5: just shows there's three right there. Ganassi has two guys 273 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 5: that you would expect to be in that top ten 274 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 5: Christian Lungar. What's that? 275 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: There's five? 276 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 5: There is five? 277 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: Got the two McLaren's they're seven. You've got at least 278 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: two at Andretty. You know, Marcus Erickson's another big question. 279 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: He's not come close to the top ten, but certainly 280 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: that potential is there. But you certainly expect Power in 281 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: Kirkwood to be in the top ten, and you've got 282 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: others that think they should be there, like both of 283 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: the Ed Carpenter drivers. You know, can Ray Hall make 284 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: a big jump? Who else am I forgetting there? But 285 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: I think I probably counted about ten or eleven. 286 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I just think it's and I don't know. Again, 287 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 5: I wasn't in the conversation with Joey Barnes and Tony Kaanan, 288 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 5: But I don't know what would have prompted Tony to 289 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 5: say that other than what you just kind of floated 290 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 5: as a little balloon. And maybe it's just a statement 291 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 5: here that hey, there's a decent chance we've got an 292 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 5: opening next year. Just kind of that send that down 293 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 5: to a new garden's house down in uh In, Tennessee, 294 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 5: that yeah, we may have an opening. So just just 295 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 5: factor that into your decision making. 296 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: I almost wonder if it's a bit of this is 297 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: an F one organization and this is the type of 298 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: thing and F one Team principal would say on Drive 299 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: to Survive, it's what Zach Brown would say on Drive 300 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: to Survive, that they are I would suspect he is 301 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: encouraged to be outspoken, that Zach Brown enjoys publicity, and 302 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: he's told Tony don't worry about holding back, you know, 303 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: just just speak the truth and we'll deal with it. 304 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: And we want drivers that can handle pressure. I think 305 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: it's a it's a Formula one mentality, and that's what 306 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: the up one drivers here all the time, that you've 307 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: got to do this or we're going to replace you 308 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: post haste. 309 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 5: I just can't imagine a scenario where Nolan Siegel is 310 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 5: securely in the top ten to secure his job. I mean, 311 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 5: he could finish ninth, tenth, twelfth, I could see that, 312 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 5: but you know, did just to go say he's got 313 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 5: to be in the top ten. That's to me, that's 314 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 5: more than just just being outlandish. You've made a decision 315 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 5: that that's how it's going to be, and that otherwise 316 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 5: she would have said something like, hey, we need to 317 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 5: see vast improvement in the results. 318 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: I think that's what we all expected, and that in 319 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: many ways allows you more leeway. You know what, if 320 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: you have three mechanicals in you to finish twelfth, he's 321 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: obviously not going to be held to this. And if 322 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: he finishes twelfth and wins a race or you know 323 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: as three podiums and they bring him back, well, I 324 00:16:58,800 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: thought you said he has to be in. 325 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 2: The he's going to be able to go around that. 326 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: But what if he finishes tenth then nothing goes wrong? 327 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: You know, then you're not looking like you've been forthcoming 328 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: all the way through if you've already made up your mind. 329 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: It's just the cutthroat business that it is. And I 330 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: think that they did something different, and now we know 331 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: it's clear. It was a little vague and no one 332 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: wanted to really speak to it about whether there was 333 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: money involved, and that's all now on court public records 334 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: because of the Alex Polow case. We know as we 335 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: suspected there was money involved. That's how someone gets a 336 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: seat like that, And I think Aaron McLaren wants to 337 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: be in a situation where they're like Team Penske and 338 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: we just simply choose the driver based on the best available. 339 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 2: That's what Team Penske. 340 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: Has always done. That's what Andrettie is doing again. They 341 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: had had a pay driver's seat and they went away 342 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: from that model a few years ago. Does that with 343 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: most of their seats, not all of their seats, so 344 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: on and so forth. But then you have to have 345 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: the partnerships and sponsorship to be able to back that up. 346 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: And I saw McLaren just announced another sponsor today, one 347 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: of their f one sponsors, Deloyde, who's been an IndyCar before. 348 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: Is going to be a part of their IndyCar program. 349 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 2: Just a random thought. 350 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: Three or four years ago. The future of McLaren IndyCar 351 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: had to be based on how McLaren F one wins 352 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: because this was Zach Brown's baby and I but we 353 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: all knew the McLaren people were going to ask first, hey, 354 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: how's it going in F one? And if it's not 355 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: going well, there the first thing that he was going 356 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: to lose, or if he were to lose his job, 357 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: that IndyCar project was going to go away pretty quickly. 358 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: So the fact that the F one project keeps getting 359 00:18:56,080 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: better and better and culminates with driver and menuf extual championships, 360 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: you know now they that all trickles down. It's all 361 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: kind of one big organization, and this puts them in 362 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: much better situation. 363 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 2: Than they've been in. 364 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: There were a lot of rumors about Arrow a year ago, 365 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 1: and I don't know how long that is. I did 366 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: understand it. I think there was some thought that it 367 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: was going away immediately. I never understood it to be 368 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 1: going away immediately, But I don't know how long that 369 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 1: partnership is. I knew it always had at least another year, 370 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 1: and I assume it still has at least twenty twenty six, 371 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 1: because we would have heard about that by now. But 372 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,479 Speaker 1: maybe that's been solidified. Maybe they have them for several 373 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: more years. But when they had to make the decision 374 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: on whether we get Nolan Siegel in for twenty twenty five, 375 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: then we don't know where we're at financially. So yeah, 376 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: we'll take a driver with some promise that can bring 377 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: some budget. Now he's going to have to show that 378 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: he has the promise and pay it off. 379 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 5: And not just does the IndyCar program get maybe better 380 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 5: footing with the in their organization. Zach Brown now has 381 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 5: even more leverage to do what he needs, what he 382 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 5: feels is what is best for the organization, because he's 383 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 5: delivered them the biggest prize that anyone in that organization 384 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 5: could could hope for and something that had alluded them 385 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 5: for years. So this is this is a huge leverage boost. 386 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 5: And if you thought, if you thought Zach Brown wasn't 387 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 5: confident enough, and we're friends, so I can say this, 388 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 5: if you thought he wasn't confident enough, he's even more confident. 389 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 5: He's going to be even more confident now he's got 390 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 5: he's got exactly the resume now that he always hoped 391 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 5: for and the most he could achieve. Honestly. 392 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: In case you didn't see the motorsport dot Com article 393 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: with Joey Barnes, here a few of the quotes. It's 394 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: a contract year, but there shouldn't be more pressure. He's 395 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: speaking about Nolan Siegel because it's the contract year. I 396 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: would hate to see a driver that because they signed 397 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: a three year deal. 398 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 2: He's going to relax. That the wrong. 399 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: Mentality to have. You should be driving like it's the 400 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: last day your contract. Every race we invested in him. 401 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: Do I believe in him? One percent? Does he have flashes? 402 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: One hundred percent? I was on his car the whole year. 403 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: I'll be honest, timing stand the whole year. My job 404 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 1: is to make the kid believe and shape him up, 405 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: trying to rush him on. So it goes on to say, 406 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: you know, we told him to drive more. So that's 407 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: why he's been doing Asian Lama series. That's why he's 408 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: going to do the Rolex twenty four to be doing 409 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: as much as he can. Here was the money quote 410 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: to me, he needs to finish in the top ten 411 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: in the championship and if not I don't think I 412 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: can keep him, but not the result only because there's 413 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: many ways, like if you ran there in the top ten, 414 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: I know, if he's doing it and somebody hits you 415 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: every race, what are you going to do? 416 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: Right? 417 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of saying if he has the performance 418 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 1: and there are circumstances outside of the control, they might 419 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: look up into some extenuating circumstances. 420 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 5: He did leave himself some wiggle room there by saying 421 00:21:55,640 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 5: to me, meaning could be exactly. He could just say, hey, Zach, 422 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 5: I thought he did well enough, Let's let's go with Zach. 423 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: So yep, top ten is possible. It's kind of right 424 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: on that fringe if everything goes well and you look 425 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: at the possibilities that are out there. Oh, by the way, 426 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: one I didn't mention is, you know, the Foy team 427 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: has flirted with the top ten and been in the 428 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: top ten Rucci the last couple of years, and with Malucas, 429 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: you know, having both cars with one of them being 430 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: a rookie is probably going to be a little tougher 431 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: task this year. But you know that's kind of where 432 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: it's at. There's about ten or eleven. Oh yeah, in Meyer, 433 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: Shank that's two more, that's top ten. Yeah, so that's 434 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: where you get to a dozen. It's tough. 435 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, both Meyer Shank cars finished ahead of the Penske 436 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 5: cars in twenty twenty five. I mean I could see 437 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 5: Siegul could get to maybe ninth, and I could see 438 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 5: him fifteenth. I mean it's it's that's kind of the range. 439 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 5: And and by the way, and I know those are 440 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 5: six six positions. There seven positions, but a lot of 441 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 5: there's a lot of drivers that could be eighth, ninth, 442 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 5: and they could also be fifteenth depending on how results go. 443 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: So I think it is possible in this era of 444 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: IndyCar to be fifteenth and have had a good season, 445 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 1: as long as you're not in one of the top programs. 446 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't work well if you're a Penske car, 447 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: doesn't work well if you're an Andretti car, or if 448 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: you're one of the veteran Ganassi cars. But you can 449 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: still have a good season finishing fifteenth in IndyCar. 450 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, this era. 451 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 5: And we were having this conversation with somebodies the other day, 452 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 5: and you know, this era of IndyCar is just deeper. 453 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 5: It isn't just that the bottom of IndyCar today is 454 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 5: better than the bottom of IndyCar twenty years ago. It's 455 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 5: the top is better, the middle is better. It's just 456 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 5: a better product. And that isn't a we have two 457 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 5: different series at that point, but this is a this 458 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 5: combined series. I mean it's one series obviously now. But 459 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 5: this this sport is so deep that that fifteenth. I mean, 460 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 5: if you have a couple bad breaks like Kirkwood and 461 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 5: Erickson did and getting penalized at the Indy five hundred 462 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 5: last year, I mean, I'm still shot. Kirkwood was still 463 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 5: in the hunt after losing all those points. Now, he 464 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 5: faded in the last half of the season pretty substantially. 465 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 5: I think his average finish was like fourteenth, but you 466 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 5: know he was. He was still in the mix quite 467 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 5: a while after Indy, even even though he basically lost 468 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 5: all his points from the Indy five hundred. Dude to 469 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 5: the technical inspection post race. 470 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: So we heard a little bit from Power and New 471 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: Garden about the test at Phoenix today. There were two 472 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: cars there last fall. 473 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 2: What it was Rossy. 474 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: And Dixon, I believe Dixon, Yeah, in November, and so 475 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: they learned some things about the tire then and brought 476 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: it here, and one of the things that I read 477 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: on racer is that the right front is a little 478 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: bit wider, and that's one of the things we've been 479 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: hearing on the short over is that the ovals is 480 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: that the load is so high, the temp is so up. 481 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: We remember hearing that was it at Nashville last year. 482 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: They're really monitoring the right front tire temp because this 483 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: car is just heavier with the hybrid and with safety 484 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: additions to the car. So that's one thing that they 485 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: feel will help. So I'll be interested to hear once 486 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 1: we get a full debrief of this, and then you're 487 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: going to get the full field test, which is where 488 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 1: they can really get a sense of arrow and you know, 489 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: trying to get a second lane going. 490 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 2: Which can make the racing really good. So all of 491 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 2: that is important. 492 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: So that was, you know, kind of what they were 493 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: trying to confirm out of this test today. And it 494 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: was pretty cold too, fifty five degrees and you know, 495 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: when I saw a forecast last night, I was afraid 496 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: they wouldn't do anything because it looked like fifty to 497 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: seventy percent chance of rain all day, which is probably 498 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: why they like they started this morning at about seven 499 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: thirty they did. 500 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 5: They started early because it was raining this afternoon, so 501 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 5: I assume, I mean, I don't know where. I mean, 502 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,479 Speaker 5: it's you know, late afternoon there. Now. I don't know 503 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,239 Speaker 5: what else they got done, but it was raining, you know, 504 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 5: in the one o'clock hour in Phoenix, so that's four 505 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 5: o'clock our time, but one o'clock their time. 506 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: The other thing that people probably noted when they saw 507 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: some pictures that Andretti sent out early in the morning 508 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: was will Powers car one. It was interesting to see 509 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: him in something other than a Verizon Penske car, which 510 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: he has done what in three races since two thousand 511 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: and nine, something like that, So it's something else. But 512 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: it was TWG branded. 513 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 5: I don't I wouldn't read too much into it just yet. 514 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 5: We often will see, you know, in the preseason testing, 515 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 5: we'll often see different branding on the car that's their 516 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 5: overall organization, if they're not ready to announce or they 517 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 5: haven't finalized the deal. I wouldn't put all of my 518 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 5: eggs in that basket. Just shit in what basket that 519 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 5: it's going to be a TWG sponsorship car? 520 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, not at all. I think 521 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: some have wondered down there. You know, one thing we 522 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: don't know is do they have the right to use 523 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: the Andretti Global name in perpetuity? You know, if that 524 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: ever ends, then the team will need to be renamed. 525 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: That's right that there have been people that thought they 526 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: were going to change it to TWG at some point. 527 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: I don't think that's likely, but I do think they 528 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: find value and they want to use opportunities like this 529 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: sure to start to develop that brand. And it's a 530 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: bit of a secondary brand. And if indeed there is 531 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: a shelf life or if what if? What if Michael 532 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: Android vs Does side he wants to get back into 533 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: the sport at some point it has the right to 534 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: take his name back and has the ability now and 535 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: now he may have to give some money back to 536 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: do that. They're aboud assume that there's some sort of 537 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 1: relationship that allows him to collect for the use of 538 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: the Andretti Global name, but that may just simply be 539 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: an opportunity to start down that path. And then I 540 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: think this was something too, is that you know they'd 541 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: like to replace Gamebridge on that car. That's the team 542 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: owner that owns that company, so that can always be available, 543 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: but if they can find another partner to bring in 544 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: new money, they'll do that, and Gamebridge can simply be 545 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: an associate partner or fill the races that aren't sold, 546 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: or whatever the case may be. 547 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 5: Either there has been some real value in it in 548 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 5: Colton's car being game Bridge all the way through. And 549 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 5: by the way, I've always thought that Andretti Global would 550 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 5: stick around two or three more years. That was part 551 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 5: of the exit strategy, and then we would see a rebranding. 552 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 5: But we have seen it for twenty twenty six. 553 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and if there is a shelf life on. 554 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 2: That, if that was in the agreement that it's going to. 555 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: Be Andretti for X number of years, then it serves 556 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: a purpose to go ahead and start that process. Andy Listis, 557 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: by the way, was announced over the break as Powers engineer. 558 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: He's been an Indy car before with Andretti and he 559 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: worked with the Meyer Shank team. I know he was 560 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,479 Speaker 1: Jack Harvey's engineer a few years ago, but he's had 561 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: a lot of success the last couple of years on 562 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: the Andretti Indie Next cars. He was Jamie Chadwick's engineer. 563 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: She did really well and he won the Championship with 564 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: Dennis Hauger this year. Okay, up next, want to get 565 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: to Oh, we'll talk about dale Coin Racing and what 566 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: might be holding that up and what the options are. 567 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: What's going on with IndyCar drivers at the Rolex and 568 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: what was announced today and the IndyCar schedule and how 569 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: that might work commercially compared to the NASCAR schedule and more. 570 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: Next on track side, Hi, this is what power and 571 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: you're listening to trackside? Okay, as mentioned, there's still one 572 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: big unanswered question. Actually, I guess there's another unanswered question 573 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: that we're going to get to and maybe I'll just 574 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: do that by I saw this tweet coming in earlier 575 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: today and Lynn drive for four Astra cups in a row. 576 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: Lynn underscore IndyCar asks who will drive the second DCR car? 577 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: Is it Sir Dixon? As another podcast suggests that's a 578 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: running joke on the Hinch and Rossie podcast. And will 579 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: premabee on the grid in twenty twenty six or are 580 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: they won and done? 581 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 2: So? 582 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, we forgot to mention that is certainly really high 583 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: on the list and right behind dale Coin is that 584 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: we really do have two tbds to be determined on 585 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: that now Callum I Loot posted on his Instagram story 586 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: or a post just a picture yesterday of or maybe 587 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: the day before of him in the parking lot pulling 588 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: up to the Premise shop in Indianapolis. So some would 589 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: take that as to a sign that that's a good sign. 590 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: You know, he's showing up to work. It's full steam ahead. 591 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: I hope that's the case, and it might be, and 592 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: that seems more likely. But here's another possibility. What if 593 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: they won't return his calls and he just showed up 594 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: to say, hey, guys, what. 595 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 2: Are we doing? Yeah, we are we racing this year. 596 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: I still think I joke about that because I've read 597 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: Marshall prut on racer dot com right that he can't 598 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: get anyone at Premo to return a call to give 599 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: any insight on what they're doing for next year. 600 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 5: It's and that's usually because people who you would contact 601 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 5: don't have the green light to say one way or 602 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 5: the other, or they don't know. But I still think 603 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 5: they're probably fifty five percent going to be there. Forty 604 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 5: five percent, not just a little bit more. 605 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: Nolum I lot. I'd like to know more than that 606 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: fifty five percent. I agree with you. I'd feel a 607 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: lot better, you know, calling at one hundred percent. It's January. 608 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: Season started today. Are we racing? Other cars are on 609 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: track today. 610 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 5: He could have also just been posting, Look, my contract 611 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 5: says I need to show up here. I am. 612 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: So that's true too. I expect, whether we race or 613 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: not this year, I expect to be paid because I 614 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: signed a multi year contract. So I am collecting assets. Well, 615 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: he's also case it's coming up. 616 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, you describe it as assets, it's uh in this case, 617 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 5: photographic proof that I was there. 618 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, I've showed up. He should do that every day, 619 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: just pull in or maybe you would clean it out 620 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: his locker, you know who. 621 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 2: I hope. 622 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: I hope to make the case because they were fun 623 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: last year. 624 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 2: It was a good story. They had good people, good. 625 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 5: They won the poll for the NY five hundred. 626 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 2: They did. 627 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: Don't know how, but they did that. 628 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 2: You can't. 629 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 5: You could not have come into twenty twenty five and 630 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 5: given me fifty possibilities for might happen during the season 631 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 5: and said that one was was in your list fifty choices. 632 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 5: You would not have said prim is going to win 633 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 5: the poll for the Indy five hundred, especially not Robert 634 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 5: Schwartzman had never been on an oval. 635 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly to the first part about the coin situation. 636 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: So you know, I know Dale wanted to have it 637 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: done by Halloween, by Thanksgiving, by Christmas, you know, and 638 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: once it doesn't happen by December twentieth. In reality, it's 639 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: not going to happen until well today, you know, today 640 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: is about the first time business resumed on Monday. And 641 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: it's a few scenarios. He's waiting for the driver's check 642 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: to clear. He's waiting for the check to clear for 643 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: whoever was going to pay for them to hire a 644 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: driver like Roman Rojean. Maybe Roman Rojean has come up 645 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: with a company that's going to help pay for it. It 646 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: is going to pay Roman's salary and is going to 647 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: help pay for the car. Could be a combination of that, 648 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: or it could be none of those, and it could 649 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: be simply we don't have the money yet. I've not 650 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: found a driver that I want, that has the budget 651 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: that I feel we need, and or a partner yet 652 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: to come in and pay for it. But I know 653 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: I'm the only game in town. What is my hurry? 654 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 2: There will always be. 655 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: Someone available that is competent. If I have to pay 656 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: for it, I can call somebody on February twenty third 657 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 1: and say, hey, can you be in Saint Pete next week? 658 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: I've got a free seat for you and Hunter mcilray, 659 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: Toby Salary, Lenas Lundquist, whoever is going to be available. 660 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 1: So I am going to hold out and encourage all 661 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: of these drivers that are trying to get this seat. 662 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,399 Speaker 1: You've got one point five million, that's not quite enough. 663 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 1: What can you do and wait and see who offers 664 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: the best financial package combined with a driver that I'm 665 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,479 Speaker 1: interested in to be in that seat because there's nowhere 666 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: else they can go. 667 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think in any car, I think the deadline 668 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 5: probably more realistically is that open test at Phoenix. It 669 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 5: is it is, which is about ten days ahead of 670 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 5: your schedule or what's happening. 671 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: We say that that's the preferred deadline, just like someone 672 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: told me associated with the team that oh, yeah, this 673 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: will be done by December because we have plans we 674 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 1: have to have this done. 675 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 2: Well, it's not done. 676 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 1: So there are things that, yes, need to be done, 677 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 1: but if they don't have any acceptable situations we have 678 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: had this team, this team has higher drivers after preseason 679 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: testing was finished. Yeah, so this is not unprecedented. So 680 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: I cannot give that a one percent that they will 681 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: have things sorted before testing come. They don't even bring 682 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: both cars to all the tests all the time. They'll 683 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 1: get one of them there and they'll get what they 684 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: can and they'll make the best of it with the second. 685 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: If that is the situation, Hopefully they're close. For all 686 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: I know, an announcement is coming tomorrow and everything. 687 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 2: Will be sorted. You know. 688 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: One of the drivers that I didn't think it was 689 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 1: likely because he had started doing a lot of sports 690 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: car racing and that probably was taking a little bit 691 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: of budget was Jacob Abel. So not only was he 692 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 1: racing in LMP two in Asian Lamon, but he was 693 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,959 Speaker 1: He's been confirmed to run with Ara Motorsport and LMP two. 694 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: Maybe that doesn't take any budget because I know that 695 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: you can get hired as a silver driver. 696 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:46,240 Speaker 2: In that series. 697 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: So I'm hoping that is the case for Jacob and 698 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 1: they've just decided they didn't really want me. It was 699 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: they were asking for an awful lot of money. This 700 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: is not a good career path. We can do more 701 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:04,280 Speaker 1: good things in sports cars and the team has looked 702 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: into l MP two racing in the past, so this 703 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,839 Speaker 1: is a good way to kind of explore that maybe 704 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 1: they eventually partner with Ara Motorsport, which is based in 705 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 1: Indianapolis as well down the road, so you know, Grojeon Lundquist, 706 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: Toby Sowry, maybe devilin de Francesco wants to come back 707 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: and do Indy car and could be a consideration. And 708 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 1: I rate just as highly someone that you and I 709 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: are not familiar with from the F two F three. 710 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 2: World, and there must be. 711 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: And the reason I didn't mention Connor Daily is because 712 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 1: Connor Daly said on this podcast that I don't think 713 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: I have a chance. Dale's not returning my calls, and 714 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,280 Speaker 1: Connor has partners. I don't know how much budget he has, 715 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: but he has solid budget. And the fact that Dale 716 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,399 Speaker 1: is not even saying I can't tell you anything yet 717 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 1: but stand by, he must have something or he just 718 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,760 Speaker 1: wants someone. You know, this is kind of the challenge 719 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: that Connor is going to face. But we've always talked 720 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 1: about upside. You want someone that's in their early twenties 721 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 1: that might turn into the next Alex. 722 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 2: Below and then you lose them to another team. 723 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think, you know, I think Connor would 724 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 5: be a good It seems like a good middle ground 725 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 5: for them. He's going to be good on the oval, 726 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 5: he's going to give you a chance at Indy, and 727 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 5: you know he's got some budgets and experience. 728 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: So I thought it made the most sense. I thought 729 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 1: that's what was going to happen and be an option 730 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: for him. But unless Dale's phone broke, doesn't sound like 731 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: he's interested at this point. Oh I mentioned Jacob abel Was. 732 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 1: I think that was announced a little while ago, but 733 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: a few other things came out in the sports car world. 734 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: Scott McLaughlin is going to run a Corvette GTD for 735 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: the DXDT. 736 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 2: Team for the role X. 737 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 1: I was hoping that's where Robert Wickens would be. He 738 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 1: raced with that team last year, but he is not 739 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 1: on the date own injury list. But they have not 740 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,439 Speaker 1: announced the second driver for the five short races, which 741 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: is what he did last year, so he could still 742 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: be in play for that. What else was so we've 743 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 1: got here's the list. I think we have Palo, Dixon, Siegel, Rasmussen, Power, Kirkwood, Ericsson, 744 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,720 Speaker 1: is lot Kiff and Simpson plus Colten hurt A waiting 745 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: to see if he's going to be any eighty five hundred. 746 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: I don't think Hinchcliff. There was an injury list that 747 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 1: came out today. I didn't look at it. I know 748 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 1: Hinch is doing it. The team confirmed it. He just 749 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: hadn't finished up the paperwork. I know he's doing it. 750 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,360 Speaker 1: And the Cup drivers like Connor Zilich and aj Allmendinger, 751 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: and they'll start practicing at the end of next week. 752 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 1: The Chili Bowl starts on Monday. Kyle Larson, his day 753 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,720 Speaker 1: is Monday for the pre limbs, and our man Dylan Welch, 754 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: our Indianapolis representative, his night is Monday, So best of 755 00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: luck to Dylan on that front as well. And when 756 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: we come back, we'll see what we missed and answer 757 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: any late two of our questions as well. On trackside 758 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 1: ninety three to five one oh seven five the fan, Hi, 759 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: this is justpinh Newgarten and you're listening to trackside. Okay, 760 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 1: time for the final segment what we missed and other things. 761 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: Also a note next week's show, we're back to Tuesday 762 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 1: and we will be on Tuesdays for the remainder of 763 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: the month. Seven o'clock next Tuesday. We do have a 764 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:33,359 Speaker 1: six pm start time on Tuesday, January twentieth. Speaking of 765 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,760 Speaker 1: start times over the holiday break, IndyCar and Fox announced 766 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: the start times for IndyCar in twenty twenty six, as 767 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: we already knew, but it's still worth noting because it's 768 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: quite unique. Every IndyCar race is on network television on Fox. 769 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: The Indie Next schedule also out and they've got fifteen 770 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: of the seventeen races. There are a few doubleheaders this 771 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 1: year are going to be on FS one. Fifteen of 772 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 1: the seventeen on one. So what stands out with the 773 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 1: IndyCar schedule? You know, I always look at and there 774 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: was a lot of conversation last year about heads to 775 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: head with NASCAR and lead ins and it now they 776 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 1: had more time to kind of work on some things 777 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: and that was clearly an effort. And Bob Pokers did 778 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:26,360 Speaker 1: the combinations and the comparisons from Foxsports dot Com, and 779 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: he notes that the only likely conflict with Cup races 780 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 1: would be IndyCar at Nashville, which is the only race 781 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: we don't have an exact time for yet. It's following 782 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: the World Cup Finale, which is going to be a 783 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,360 Speaker 1: massive lead in that's probably going to rate somewhere between 784 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 1: eighteen and twenty five million people, so you'll have to 785 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 1: be we will have to be a bit flexible on that. 786 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,359 Speaker 1: I don't know how long the postgame is for that. 787 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be tough to be a 788 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 1: true night race, but honestly, I don't know what time 789 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 1: the last World Cup Final began, and. 790 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 2: Then the other conflict could be. 791 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: Or He says that race would potentially conflict with North 792 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 1: Wilkesboro for Cup, and the IndyCar Race at Portland will 793 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,240 Speaker 1: run pretty much at the same time as Cup at Iowa. Now, 794 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: lead ins those are huge, and there's not as much 795 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: opportunity because the Fox Cup schedule ends in mid May 796 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: and they only have a few races on actual Fox network. 797 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,320 Speaker 1: I think it's four or five. But the Long Beach 798 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: Race is going to run later this year five thirty Eastern, 799 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: two thirty local for IndyCar. And the reason it's later, 800 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: and we guessed on this a few weeks ago, is 801 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: because it's following a Cup race at Kansas, So that 802 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 1: gives you a good potential lead in of whatever that is, 803 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: three four five million people, probably more than three or 804 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,760 Speaker 1: four range. Fox usually does well on the network broadcast 805 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,720 Speaker 1: in the beginning, so that's a great opportunity there. 806 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 2: And then. 807 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: What else. IndyCar is going to be leading into Kota 808 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: and also from Arlington that's from Saint Pete and then 809 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 1: Arlington to Vegas. Although IndyCar is on Fox, Vegas Cup 810 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: will be on FS one that's on March fifteenth. Other 811 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,359 Speaker 1: things that were noted. We see there's still a long 812 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 1: pre race show for the Indy five hundred that'll be 813 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: on at ten o'clock and probably around on twelve thirty ish, 814 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 1: whether permitting start time for. 815 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,400 Speaker 2: The Indy five hundred. We know there's going to be. 816 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,800 Speaker 1: Network coverage of qualifying. We don't have the full schedule 817 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 1: for qualifying. 818 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:35,240 Speaker 2: At this point. 819 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,799 Speaker 1: Some is going to I'm sure be on FS one 820 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 1: at four o'clock on both the Saturday and Sunday of qualifying, 821 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,799 Speaker 1: and we know we have a true night race. I 822 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 1: wondered how this would work, but it is going to 823 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:56,240 Speaker 1: be at Worldwide Technology Raceway Sunday, June seventh, nine pm Eastern, 824 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 1: so that's eight pm local time. So that is really 825 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:05,800 Speaker 1: cool will and is a really positive note there as well. Uh, Okay, 826 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 1: that's it for tonight. Got some other things we'll mention, 827 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: but we'll save that for next week as well, and 828 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 1: we'll talk to you next Tuesday. Track side ninety three 829 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 1: to five one oh seven five The Fan