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Speaker 1: Lie from the Heartland and the crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 2: Do not ask me to shed a tear for Jimmy Kimmel,

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Speaker 2: that doglone hunt that ain't happening.

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Speaker 3: I do not owe him my tears.

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Speaker 2: I do not owe him.

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Speaker 3: Anything, nor was he owed a television show.

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Speaker 2: This is different than whether or not Brendan car the

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Speaker 2: chair of the FCC, whether or not his commentary was

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Speaker 2: really acceptable at all. Tony Katz, Tony Katz Today, good

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Speaker 2: to be with you. Find everything over at Tony Katz

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Speaker 2: dot com. I want to start with a baseline to

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Speaker 2: make sure we all understand that Jimmy Kimmel may be

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Speaker 2: a comic, but on his show, he was not a comic,

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Speaker 2: and I think that is a delineation that people are

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Speaker 2: missing that they need to make. He was not a

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Speaker 2: comic on his show. He was a progressive mouthpiece on

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Speaker 2: I think he owns one of Vegas, maybe other ones.

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Speaker 3: He's a comic.

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Speaker 2: If he's helping other comics, he's on stage, sure, and

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Speaker 2: I am absolutely fine with the comic getting wide latitude.

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Speaker 2: I'm also fine with the radio host getting latitude. Now,

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Speaker 2: if you tell me that the comic does and I don't,

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Speaker 2: we are going to have ourselves one great, big old disagreement.

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Speaker 2: But I do not consider him a comic. In the

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Speaker 3: Was doing, both him and his wife, where she was

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Speaker 2: Writer, they were engaged in progressive propaganda to try and

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Speaker 2: influence elections on the public airwaves. I don't think I'm

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Speaker 2: wrong in this. As a matter of fact, I think

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Speaker 2: that we're maybe the first people to truly make that

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Speaker 2: point in that differentiation. Second, I oppose government interference and

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Speaker 2: government pressure on any media outlet to engage in a

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't accept it for me. I don't accept it

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Speaker 2: And there's a real question whether or not Brendan Carr

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Speaker 2: the FCC, in saying, you know, these affiliates need to

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Speaker 2: do something about Charlie, about Jimmy Kimmel's commentary, Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 2: and others, they have to do something. I can't tell

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Speaker 2: you that I'm okay with that. I'm not. But if

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Speaker 2: there are rules regarding the FCC that I have to

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Speaker 2: are rules that are on the books that were not

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Speaker 2: enforced and they are now being enforced. Well, you could

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Speaker 2: upset here. I still disagree with what Brendan Carr said

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Speaker 2: with the Affiliates that said this guy has got to go.

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Speaker 2: the Affiliates had had enough.

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Speaker 3: It was Jimmy Kimmel who.

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Speaker 2: Said that the assassin of Charlie Kirk was somebody who

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Speaker 2: said on September fifteenth, and I quote, we hit some

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Speaker 2: new lows over the weekend with the Maga gang desperately

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Speaker 2: can to score political points from it. That was a lie.

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Speaker 2: That was a lie, and it was a known lie

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Speaker 2: on September fifteenth, and he said it anyway. For that

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Speaker 2: Kimmel and say we're done here. You could have washed

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Speaker 2: your hands of Jimmy Kimmel on ABC when he was

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Speaker 2: lecturing to you about morality and decency, A guy who

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Speaker 2: Jimmy blackface Kimmel. I said this minutes before it was

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Speaker 2: announced yesterday that he was let go suspended quote unquot

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Speaker 2: indefinitely from ABC. He lied he has been a propagandist,

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Speaker 2: taking his talking points, for example, on healthcare from Chuck Schumer.

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Speaker 2: Some very interesting data that I'll share with you regarding

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Speaker 2: how he was positioning guests and commentaries. Curtis Halk of

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Speaker 2: NewsBusters dot org With that data that's coming up. Jimmy

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Speaker 2: Kimmel is entitled to free speech an American citizen. He

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Speaker 2: can say any ugly, outrageous, despicable thing he wants. He

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Speaker 4: Tucker Carlson is out at Fox News couldn't have happened

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Speaker 4: to a better guy. What I will say though, is well,

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Speaker 4: I'm very glad that the person that was arguably responsible

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Speaker 4: most amounts of death threats and violent threats not just

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Speaker 4: I also kind of feel like I'm waiting for the

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Speaker 4: cut scene at the end of a Marvel movie, after

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Speaker 4: like the end of a building or something. But deeplatforming

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Speaker 4: works and it is important, and.

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Speaker 5: There you go.

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Speaker 4: Good things can happen, Tucker Carlson.

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Speaker 2: Things can happen. Deep platforming works. Representative of Cassio Cortes

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Speaker 2: leading the way, and if it wasn't representative of Cassio Cortes,

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Speaker 2: it was Chuck Schumer.

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Speaker 3: These lies continue tonight.

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Speaker 6: Rupert Murdoch, who is admitted they were lies and said

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Speaker 6: he regretted it and has a special obligation to stop

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Speaker 6: Tucker Carlson.

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Speaker 7: From going on tonight now that he's seen how he

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Speaker 7: is perverted and slimed the truth and from letting him

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Speaker 2: If you don't tell the truth, you're not allowed to

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Speaker 2: be on the air. That's what Democrats have said. They

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Speaker 2: said deeplatforming had a value. Why not now because of

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Speaker 2: the commentary of Brendan Carr. Well, the commentary of Brendan

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Speaker 2: car the chair of the FCC, can absolutely meet a

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Speaker 2: of saying so. But I'm told from the Progressive leader

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Speaker 2: Alexandria Cassi Cortez deep platforming is good, and I'm told

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Speaker 2: liars cannot be allowed to be on the air and

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Speaker 2: have to be removed from the air. In both those cases,

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Speaker 2: I could not agree more. And therefore it is right

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Speaker 2: that Jimmy Kimmel loses his show on ABC, a show

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Speaker 2: that he is absolutely not entitled to, a show from

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Speaker 8: Fox News has severed bow ties with Tucker Carlson. After

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Speaker 8: all these years, they are parting ways, which means he

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Speaker 8: Tarker couldn't be reached for comment. He's already on a

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Speaker 2: But what a.

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Speaker 3: Shock, I mean, what an absolutely delightful shock.

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Speaker 8: This is al Tucker can spend more time at home,

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Speaker 8: tanning his testicles and.

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Speaker 3: Touching himself to that sexy green M and M.

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Speaker 8: Sadly, he's probably not done poisoning old people's brains.

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Speaker 2: The question now is where will he do it next?

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Speaker 8: Will he go to oay N, Will he go to Newsmax?

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Speaker 8: Will he crawl back up Satan's fiery bee hole?

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Speaker 3: From whence he came?

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Speaker 5: We don't know.

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Speaker 8: One of the most despicable mother Tuckers ever to appear

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Speaker 3: Well, you would know.

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Speaker 2: It's okay to cheer Jimmy Kimmel being fired. It's okay

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Speaker 2: to cheer him losing the platform. He told us it's okay.

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Speaker 2: He would cry about this, he would share a story

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Speaker 2: about that, but if it did not fit his very

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Speaker 3: I'm not a Tucker Carlson fan.

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Speaker 2: I believe he has gone outrageously downhill and into the ether,

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Speaker 2: engaging more and more in a very Candace Owens kind

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Speaker 2: of way. Count me all the hell out. Oh, Charlie

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Speaker 2: Kirk is dead. Now, let me invent something about Charlie

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Speaker 2: Kirk and how he didn't like Israel and this could

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Speaker 2: just stop it. Stop embarrassing yourself, Candace. It's silly you too, Tucker.

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Speaker 2: But Jimmy Kimmel mocked you being fired, so you could

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Speaker 2: The point is kim w opened the door. The progressives

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Speaker 2: open the door. They believe in deplatforming, they believe in

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Speaker 2: trying to not allow somebody a voice. But the difference

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Speaker 2: here is because of his own hubris. He lost his

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Speaker 2: gig at ABC. He could have another gig somewhere else.

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Speaker 2: of saying these lies. This grotesqueness has gone too far,

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Speaker 2: much different light than you progressive freaks and whatever it

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Speaker 2: is you guys do when you all hang out together.

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Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, we want apologies from Jimmy

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Speaker 2: to Joe Biden. You mean like Twitter before Elon Musk

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Speaker 2: great things and deserves your damn respect. I don't care

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Speaker 2: that's why this show streams there. It's where I do

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Speaker 2: the vast majority of my work. Because he spent his money,

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Speaker 2: wasted his money, and decided I can make this better,

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Speaker 2: and it became the place finally to engage.

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Speaker 3: There is a business side to this decision, but the.

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Speaker 2: Business side to this decision also involves a guy who

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Speaker 2: maybe wasn't bringing the ratings, a guy who took summer's off.

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Speaker 10: Maybe just maybe, just maybe just maybe he had run

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Speaker 2: We said here that after Stephen Colbert, the dominoes will fall. No,

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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz. Today. The Democratic

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Speaker 3: They don't care people die. They just want to kill people.

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Speaker 2: Tony Kats today, Good to be with you. These people

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Speaker 3: Promoting this book, Hillary Clinton?

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Speaker 2: Don't talk to me about turning down the temperature and

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Speaker 3: Pete Buddha Judge. That's what that's what the story is.

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Speaker 2: According to an excerpt from her new book, Buddha Judge

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Speaker 2: I'm going to read you the quote. I'm telling you

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Speaker 2: You can't handle it. Do you remember Sonny Houston from

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Speaker 2: But we were already asking a lot of America to

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Speaker 2: and didn't even have the strength of character to say

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Speaker 2: These people deserve to lose elections. They deserve to lose

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Speaker 2: Would have meant, what would have been? They would have

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Speaker 3: Other than ruining a city and having a good time

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Speaker 2: Could rise to such heights and audacity as to run

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Speaker 2: We're the best. No one even comes close, no one.

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Speaker 2: Incredible story. And then there's this justin I think this

435
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Speaker 2: was a conversation that President Trump had in London. The

436
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Speaker 2: plan is to try and get back Bagram Air Force Base.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about Afghanistan. People.

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Speaker 12: We're going to leave Afghanistan, but we're going to leave

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Speaker 12: it with strength and dignity, and we're going to keep Bagram,

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Speaker 12: the big air base, that one of the biggest airbases

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Speaker 12: in the world.

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Speaker 13: We gave it to him for nothing.

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Speaker 12: We're trying to get it back. By the way, okay,

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Speaker 12: that could be a little breaking news. We're trying to

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Speaker 12: get it back because they need to from us. We

446
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Speaker 12: want that base back. But one of the reasons we

447
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 12: want the base is as you know, it's an hour

448
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Speaker 12: away from which China makes it too clear.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Part of the importance of Bogram was not about engaging

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Speaker 2: in warfare in Afghanistan.

452
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Speaker 3: It was about the concept of something called over the horizon.

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Speaker 2: From Bogram, you could keep an eye on what the

454
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Speaker 2: Chinese military was doing and how they were going about

455
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Speaker 2: doing it. And you say to me, oh, so you

456
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Speaker 2: just want to spy in other countries, countries that steal

457
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Speaker 2: our intellectual property, send scientists over here to try and

458
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Speaker 2: engage more bioweapons against US. Lied about COVID and jails

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Speaker 2: the Weiger Muslims. Yeah, yeah, I think we should keep

460
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Speaker 2: an eye on those people, because you know what, they

461
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Speaker 2: ain't okay. And for the people out there saying that's

462
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Speaker 2: so wrong, you're the ones who carry in your neighbors

463
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 2: if they don't bring the garbage can in on time.

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Speaker 2: And unless your neighbor is named jijin Ping, don't sit

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Speaker 2: there and tell me that somehow you're moral.

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Speaker 3: That's again with these people.

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Speaker 2: We never should have given up Bagram. It was a

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Speaker 2: massive mistake, never mind giving up all that hardware and

469
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Speaker 2: just leaving it for the Russians and for the Afghans.

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Speaker 2: I should say to sell to the Russians, or sell

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Speaker 2: to the Chinese, or be able to reverse engineer or

472
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Speaker 2: anything else, or just leave to the Taliban so they

473
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Speaker 2: could absolutely be murderous with it good. I think that

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Speaker 2: is the right move. More to get to I'm Tony Katz.

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Speaker 2: This is Tony Kats today. Makhmund Khlil has been ordered

476
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Speaker 2: deported from an immigration judge. Tony Katz, Tony Kats today.

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Speaker 2: When I first read this story and I think I

478
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Speaker 2: put in the show sheet this way, I have to

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Speaker 2: go back and correct it. I thought that this judge

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Speaker 2: was talking about kill mar Abrego Garcia. I thought this

481
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Speaker 2: was the conversation about this El Salvadorian connected to MS thirteen,

482
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Speaker 2: connected to human trafficking, not a Maryland man who was

483
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Speaker 2: beating his wife. The police reports said so, and then

484
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: she says, oh, I miss him so much, and Chris

485
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Speaker 2: van Holland, the Center from Maryland is having margaritas with him.

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Speaker 2: That that kill maar Abrego Garcia. No, this is about

487
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 2: Maku Khalil Columbia University, agitating against those Jewish students, his

488
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Speaker 2: bigotry well known, his supportive hamas. In my view clearly

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Speaker 2: well known. And then he got arrested and a judge

490
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Speaker 2: led him out from a detention because because Rubio was saying,

491
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Speaker 2: he gets deported and he comes out of jail and

492
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Speaker 2: he's getting this cheering and he's standing next to Representative

493
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 2: Acasia Cortes so gross, and he's like, Donald Trump, you

494
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 2: don't scare me. Don Trump doesn't scare me either. Now

495
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 2: what he probably would be bothered that I disagree with

496
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Speaker 2: them about three or four things.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't ski me?

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Speaker 2: What kind of craziness do? You don't scare me? You

499
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: don't scare me either. Makwa Khalil, you're not in the

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Speaker 2: slightest but you're not an American citizen. You're a lawful

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Speaker 2: permanent resident. You were engaged in anti American activity and

502
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Speaker 2: abusing Americans. Maybe maybe this isn't the place for you.

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Speaker 3: You know what we thought about it, and maybe this

504
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 3: just isn't the place for you.

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Speaker 2: Well, now this judge Jamie Coleman Coma NS has placed

506
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Speaker 2: the order saying that Machmud Khalil should be deported to

507
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Speaker 2: Syria or Algeria for, as Politico reports it, failing to

508
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Speaker 2: disclose certain information on his green card application. Oh so

509
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Speaker 2: you pulled the hunter. You lied on a form that

510
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Speaker 2: would send the rest of us to jail. I don't

511
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Speaker 2: even think we should ask a question. Just support him

512
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Speaker 2: right now, don't even waste time. You lied, You lied

513
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Speaker 2: on a green card application. If you lied on a

514
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Speaker 2: green card application, out you go. Well, the country he's

515
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Speaker 2: from won't take him back. We have airplanes and parachutes.

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Speaker 2: Please don't tell me about who's going to take them back.

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Speaker 2: What is that country gonna do? Not let us land?

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Speaker 2: First of all, I mentioned the parachute. Right, we land,

519
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 2: we drop them off, we take off. Let everything else

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Speaker 2: work itself out. On the most fundamental statements I can

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Speaker 2: make on this subject, do not ask rational people like

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Speaker 2: you and me to accept the idea that the person

523
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Speaker 2: who lies to get into the country somehow has the right.

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Speaker 3: To stay in the country. I do not care from

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Speaker 3: whence they came.

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Speaker 2: They lied, they abused, they usurped, And there are people

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Speaker 2: still standing in line and still following the rules. And

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Speaker 2: those are the people I can about. To hell with him,

529
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Speaker 2: to hell with his mother, to hell with his friends

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Speaker 2: on the plane back to the country. If we can't land,

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Speaker 2: here's the parachute. You think I'm being crude or cruel. No,

532
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Speaker 2: I think crude or cruel is lying on a green

533
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Speaker 2: card application. This is Tony Katz today, lie from the

534
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Speaker 2: heartland and the crossroads of America. It's Tony Cats today.

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Speaker 14: Donald Trump, in the way of the tragic murderer Charlie Kirk,

536
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Speaker 14: has decided to exploit that tragedy to try to silence

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Speaker 14: his political opponents.

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Speaker 13: I think Kimmel is just the beginning.

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Speaker 14: I think you're going to see a potential dizzy campaign

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Speaker 14: of political repression against anyone who opposes this president.

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Speaker 3: Was it political repression?

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Speaker 2: When The New York Post had the Hunter Biden laptop

543
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Speaker 2: story cold and social media networks, under pressure from the

544
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Speaker 2: Biden White House, refused to allow it to be shared.

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Speaker 2: That's the question for Senator Chris Murphy, who on one

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Speaker 2: day is telling us where at war and then the

547
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Speaker 2: next day said, no one's ever said where it war.

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Speaker 2: Tommy can't make that up, Tony Kats, Tony Katz today,

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Speaker 2: good to be with you. But to the point he's

550
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Speaker 2: pretending to make there We said it on this show

551
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 2: that you better believe that there are gonna be a

552
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: lot of people who are going to walk the line

553
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 2: regarding Charlie Kirk, invoking his name, invoking his memory, engaging

554
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Speaker 2: in well, we were friends, and you'll never be able

555
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Speaker 2: to know whether they were or they weren't. I'm thinking

556
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Speaker 2: I'm the only person is going.

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Speaker 3: To tell you.

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Speaker 2: I met Charlie Kirk once in my life, and I

559
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Speaker 2: doubt he would have remembered it. We were at Seapac

560
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Speaker 2: and I saw him standing there. He was just standing

561
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Speaker 2: there and I had I don't know if I had

562
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Speaker 2: just spoken or I was going to speak at an

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Speaker 2: event at a turning Point chapter here in Central Indiana.

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Speaker 3: I said, hey, Tony Katzen.

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Speaker 2: Will be speaking one of your chapters. Good to meet

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Speaker 2: you all. The best of it was It was literally that,

567
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Speaker 2: and he's like, oh, hey, pleasure and that was that

568
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Speaker 2: was it.

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Speaker 4: That was it.

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Speaker 2: Near the check in of the Gaylord Hotel at National

571
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Speaker 2: Harbor in Maryland. That was the only time we've ever spoken.

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Speaker 2: I don't claim to have relationships that I don't have.

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Speaker 2: I think it's weird when people do that. I do

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Speaker 2: think some people are going to do that because sometimes

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Speaker 2: people are what they are. But as there are no

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Speaker 2: doubt there's going to be conversations about Charlie Kirk in

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Speaker 2: a way of invoking to then engage another subject. Absolutely. Oh,

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Speaker 2: by the way, he was assassinated, a guy planned to

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Speaker 2: kill him, took to a rooftop, made sure he had

580
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Speaker 2: the right firearm from his father, which belonged to his grandfather,

581
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Speaker 2: killed him, and then made sure he had a change

582
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Speaker 2: of clothes so he could try to escape. I think

583
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Speaker 2: a lot of people are going to talk about it.

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to be in a lot of

585
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Speaker 2: people's heads for a long time because we saw this

586
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Speaker 2: guy at the age of thirty one get executed live.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you tend not to forget those things, you

588
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Speaker 2: tend to recall them, and it tends to in a

589
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Speaker 2: lot of people shape what comes next. By the way,

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Speaker 2: you have a turning point announcing that Erica Kirk will

591
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Speaker 2: be the new CEO and chairman of the board. I'm

592
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Speaker 2: not surprised by this at all. If we go back

593
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Speaker 2: to her video standing next to Charlie Kirk's radio chair

594
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Speaker 2: in the studio making that that statement, I mean, I

595
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 2: was stunned. I was a maze. She was standing upright,

596
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Speaker 2: her husband was executed two days earlier, and she's making

597
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Speaker 2: a video. I mean, that's something else. But I absolutely

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Speaker 2: would say that that video was about letting Turning Point know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's there's a there's an organization there, and

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Speaker 2: there's donors there, and there's a future there. There are

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Speaker 2: people employed there. They may have said to themselves that

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Speaker 2: time in their grief, what what's gonna happen next? It

603
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: was about settling those people down. We're here, We've got this,

604
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Speaker 2: and this move is about a level of continuity. Turning

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Speaker 2: Point says that this was always the plan, that Charlie

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Speaker 2: had made his wishes known, that he wanted Erica to

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Speaker 2: be the one to take over in the event something

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Speaker 2: had happened. I have no reason not to take their

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Speaker 2: word on that ten thousand percent. Why would I even

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Speaker 2: question it. I have no one understanding of the inner

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Speaker 2: workings of Turning Points. I don't believe I know any

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Speaker 2: of the board members. I've never looked up the board

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Speaker 2: members of Turning Point USA. Erica will be the one

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Speaker 2: in charge? Will she be a public face?

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Speaker 13: Privately?

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Speaker 2: I did.

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Speaker 3: I don't have an answer for Berry, your husband.

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Speaker 2: Engage your morning as you see fit, and I wish

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Speaker 2: you well, that's the most I can do. But Trump's

620
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Speaker 2: going to exploit the murder of Charlie Kirk. Is that right,

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Speaker 2: That's what's going to happen. Sure mentioning it, discussing it,

622
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Speaker 2: saying look at what this person did, look at how

623
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Speaker 2: he was radicalized, Look at the people radicalizing him. Say

624
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 2: people radicalized the assassin of Charlie Kirk, radicalized the guy

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Speaker 2: who tried to shoot me in Butler, Pennsylvania, kill me,

626
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Speaker 2: hit me. It's not exploitation when it's part of a

627
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Speaker 2: larger debate about violence and the desire to destroy your

628
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 2: political enemy by dehumanizing them, it isn't. Meanwhile, President Trump

629
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Speaker 2: was in London. He was there for a state visit

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Speaker 2: with King Charles, and then he had the press conference

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Speaker 2: with a Cure Starmer. It was very interesting, very very interesting.

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Speaker 2: It seemed that the press really loved that Trump was

633
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Speaker 2: there and they were using that as a way to

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Speaker 2: get at Cure Starmer. I don't think there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of respect or love for for Starmer in the UK,

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Speaker 2: that is my overarching take. But there is Trump there.

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Speaker 2: They're announcing a tech deal, is what They're announcing. A

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Speaker 2: two hundred billion dollar technical deal that is taking place,

639
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Speaker 2: what they called a tech Prosperity deal. That's going to

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00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 2: bring thousands of jobs and billions in investment in artificial intelligence,

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Speaker 2: quantum computing, and nuclear energy. The deal might be worth

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Speaker 2: two hundred billion dollars. So they were discussing this and

643
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Speaker 2: other questions got asked, including questions regarding Vladimir Putin.

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Speaker 12: The one that I thought would be easiest would be

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Speaker 12: because of my relationship with President Putin. But he's let

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Speaker 12: me down. He's really let me down. Who's going to

647
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Speaker 12: be Russia in Ukraine. But we'll see how that turns out.

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Speaker 12: But that turned out to be I thought it might

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Speaker 12: be among the easiest.

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Speaker 13: Of the group. But we had settled just about every conflict,

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Speaker 13: and as you know, we're working very hard on Israel

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Speaker 13: and Gasa. Oh that's happening over there.

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Speaker 2: To admit, that's a rare thing to do.

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Speaker 3: It's a rare thing to do, or maybe it's a

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Speaker 3: rare thing for Trump to do.

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Speaker 2: I thought it'd be easier, but I don't know if

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Speaker 2: that's going to get any playable. Well, that's a statement.

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Speaker 2: I thought we were going to be able to do X,

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Speaker 2: Y and Z. We were going to be able to

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Speaker 2: be able to make things happen. Putin has not been forthcoming,

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Speaker 2: and he continued.

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Speaker 15: Mister president, you say that President Putin has let you down.

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Speaker 15: Have nego stations run out of road, and what are

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Speaker 15: your next steps to compel an end to this war.

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Speaker 13: Well, he has let me down.

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Speaker 12: I mean he's killing many people, and he's losing more

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Speaker 12: people than he's you know, than he's killing. I mean, frankly,

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Speaker 12: the Russian soldiers are being killed at a higher rate

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Speaker 12: than the Ukrainian soldiers. But yeah, he said, let me down.

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Speaker 12: I don't like to see it's death. You know, it

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Speaker 12: doesn't affect the United States. We have other than unless

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Speaker 12: you end up in a world war over this thing.

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Speaker 12: You could This was a thing that would have never

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Speaker 12: happened had I been president. If I were president, would

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Speaker 12: have never happened. And it didn't happen for four years.

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Speaker 12: Most people agree it didn't happen, nor was it close

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Speaker 12: to happening. And I spoke to President Putin about Ukraine.

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Speaker 12: It was the apple of his eye. I've said that

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Speaker 12: many times. It was. But he would have never done

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Speaker 12: what he did, except that he didn't respect the leadership

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Speaker 12: of the United States.

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Speaker 2: Which is undoubtedly true. He saw an opportunity and took it.

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Speaker 2: And I, as I have argued, he's going.

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Speaker 3: To keep taking it until he gets what he wants.

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Speaker 2: The President did bring up as the conversation led to

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Speaker 2: and questions were asked about the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 12: Just last week, a great American, Charlie Kirk was haitdeously

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Speaker 12: assassinated for.

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Speaker 13: Speaking his mind.

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Speaker 12: He was a great young man, incredible future. Some people

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Speaker 12: said he might be president someday. I told him, I said, Charlie,

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Speaker 12: I think you have a good shot some day and

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Speaker 12: being president. And he just wanted to take care of youth.

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Speaker 12: He loved youth. I've never seen anybody relate to youths

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Speaker 12: like Charlie, and they related to him, and they're devastated.

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Speaker 12: But I appreciate the many British citizens who have offered

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Speaker 12: their condolences and again early was a great person. We'll

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Speaker 12: be going out to a service on Sunday. I'll be

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Speaker 12: leaving with some of the people in this room just

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Speaker 12: to celebrate Charlie and all that he's done is so incredible.

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Speaker 13: I've never seen anything like it.

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Speaker 12: But I hope that together our nations can lead a

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Speaker 12: movement to defend the glorious traditions of freedom on both

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Speaker 12: sides of the Atlantic. There could be no greater tribute

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Speaker 12: to the immortal bonds of affection and loyalty that unite

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Speaker 12: the British and the American people for all of time.

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Speaker 12: We have a relationship like no other. It will always

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Speaker 12: be that way. We will always be united, we will

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Speaker 12: always be together. And I just want to thank you,

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Speaker 12: mister Prime Minister, for the great job I think you're doing.

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Speaker 13: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: It was a very There was a couple of times

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Speaker 2: in this presser and with King Charles where he was

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Speaker 2: very focused on the connectivity. Now, some of that language

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Speaker 2: is always State Department language, and of course Secretary of

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Speaker 2: State Rubio is there, and these things are important. As

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Speaker 2: a matter of fact, there are certain phrases that are

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Speaker 2: utilized based on the country, our strong relationship, our warm relationship,

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Speaker 2: our respective like there's these terminologies that are agreed to

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Speaker 2: our friend, our very good friend, like things like that.

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Speaker 2: But this was that line that he used. I hope

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Speaker 2: together that our nations can lead a movement to defend

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Speaker 2: the Glori tradition of freedom on both sides of the Atlantic.

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Speaker 2: And this goes along with the line he's said in

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Speaker 2: front of King Charles about protecting and supporting and defending

726
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Speaker 2: the values of the English speaking world. Now that's a statement,

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Speaker 2: and I will get into it if you haven't heard

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Speaker 2: me do this, because I argue that what he's saying

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Speaker 2: there is he's saying to the United Kingdom it is

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Speaker 2: up to us to ensure that the Islamists don't win,

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Speaker 2: that the people who want to destroy Western civilization and

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Speaker 2: Toto don't win. And of course the UK has a

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Speaker 2: massive immigration issue and a massive violence issue because of it,

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Speaker 2: they have of course an issue with their entire future.

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Speaker 2: And so I think this wording was very, very purposeful.

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Speaker 2: But the one that got me was does this involve

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Speaker 2: the actual question.

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Speaker 13: We have to remember?

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Speaker 2: It doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know which clip I had.

741
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Speaker 2: So this reporter gets up and I'm telling you, I

742
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Speaker 2: don't think they're fans of Stormer in the UK. And

743
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Speaker 2: this reporter gets up and says, mister President here in

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Speaker 2: the UK.

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Speaker 3: Prime Minister Starmer, I don't do it brush accent.

746
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Speaker 2: Because if I do, it sounds like Monty Python and

747
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Speaker 2: that's not what you want us. On the subject of Israel,

748
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Speaker 2: on Gaza has agreed to recognize a Palestinian state.

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Speaker 3: You think he's wrong about this?

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Speaker 2: Explain I mean the reporters a couple of times like, hey,

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Speaker 2: can we get these two to fist fight? That's how

752
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Speaker 2: it appeared to me. But Trump was asked about Israel

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Speaker 2: and the stance of Prime Minister Starmer regarding a Palestidian state.

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Speaker 12: We have to remember October seventh one of the worst

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Speaker 12: most violent days in the history of the world, not

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Speaker 12: just there, in the history of the world. And I

757
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 12: got to see the types and I wish I didn't

758
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Speaker 12: see him, actually, but I got to see them.

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Speaker 13: And I want an end. I want the hostages released,

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Speaker 13: and I think it's going to be okay. But it

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Speaker 13: has been a brutal period of time. But this has

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Speaker 13: been going on for a long time.

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Speaker 12: This is not something that's over the last year two years,

764
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Speaker 12: but this has been for decades and decades. But we

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Speaker 12: wanted to end. We have to have the hostages back immediately.

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Speaker 12: That's what the people of Israel want. They want them back,

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Speaker 12: and we want the fighting to stop. And it's going

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Speaker 12: to stop. But a lot of bad things.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 12: Hamas said that they're going to put the hostages up

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Speaker 12: as bait they're going to put the hostages in front

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Speaker 12: of any attack, and that's pretty brutal.

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Speaker 13: We haven't heard that one in a long time, so

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Speaker 13: we have to remember that.

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Speaker 12: So I have a disagreement with the Prime Minister on

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Speaker 12: that score, one of our few disagreements.

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Speaker 2: Actually outrageously diplomatic answer. But Hamas has been utilizing hostages

778
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Speaker 2: and others as human shields since the beginning of Hamas,

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Speaker 2: So this is nothing new, actually, mister President. And we

780
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Speaker 2: should be clear that the UK is completely wrong, Canada

781
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Speaker 2: is completely wrong. It is despicable to recognize the idea

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Speaker 2: of Palestine, which is to say we recognize hamas a

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Speaker 2: terrorist organization, which is to say they won murder twelve

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Speaker 2: hundred people and you get recognized as a state.

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Speaker 3: That's gross. And Kiir Starmer is wrong.

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Speaker 2: And while I could appreciate Trump being very very political

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Speaker 2: and politically correct there, I would have rathered the Kir

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Speaker 2: Starmer's wrong and shame on him.

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Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: Now there are statements, and there are statements, and then

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Speaker 2: there is whatever it is that Jamie Raskin says. Jamie

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Speaker 2: Raskin so outraged by the firing if you will, of

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Kimmel by ABC. So outraged puck show hosts tour

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Speaker 2: like that he took to Sorry, I didn't want to

795
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Speaker 2: play that too early, took to the airwaves of MSNBC

796
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Speaker 2: to ensure nobody heard him, except of course me sharing

797
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Speaker 2: what he said, and wants you to know how valuable

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Speaker 2: the television talk show host is.

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Speaker 8: Talk show hosts who are like modern Tom Paynes, Commress

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Speaker 8: and Jamie Raskin Thank you so much show host.

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Speaker 2: My Sorry, got myself a little tongue tied there because

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Speaker 2: what I heard is so insane talk show hosts or.

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Speaker 3: What talk show hosts who are like modern Tom.

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Speaker 2: Paynes, Thomas Pain, ladies and gentlemen. Common Sense No wrote

805
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Speaker 2: the pamphlet Common Sense. If that's the argument you want

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Speaker 2: to make, that somehow Thomas Paine, or that Jimmy Kimmels

807
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Speaker 2: like Thomas Pain, you can make that argument, but you sound.

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Speaker 3: Insane, You sound crazed.

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Speaker 2: And if you're going to speak that way about the

810
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Speaker 2: people who really speak freely, who really engage every way,

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Speaker 2: who really connect with the people, they ain't on TV,

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Speaker 2: they're right here.

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Speaker 3: It's the radio host. I wonder if he was gonna

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Speaker 3: call me a Thomas Paine.

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Speaker 2: Somebody asked Jamie Raskin, would you consider radio host to

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Speaker 2: be like Thomas Pain or only the like minded television hosts?

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Speaker 2: When you say that the TV hosts are like Thomas Pain,

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Speaker 2: do you mean gutfelt? I think we need to dig

819
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Speaker 2: into this. We need to dig into this crazy. No

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Speaker 2: one owes Jimmy Kimmel a platform, No one ABC owes

821
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Speaker 2: him nothing, zero less than zero. He owes them. Did

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Speaker 2: he ever think in all his commentaries whether or not

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Speaker 2: he was hurting the business? Listen, I say what I

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Speaker 2: want to say. I discussed the subjects I want to discuss.

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Speaker 2: I get no notes. But am I aware of sponsors?

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Speaker 2: And am I aware of the business and not utilizing

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Speaker 2: words that I'm not allowed to use?

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Speaker 3: And not engaging in phrasing that can bring a problem

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Speaker 3: to these people? Of course?

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Speaker 2: And I'm still able to more than well engage.

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Speaker 16: He didn't.

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Speaker 2: Don't you think there should be some some personal responsibility

833
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Speaker 2: for that? Thomas Payne ask him about Gottfeld, to ask

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Speaker 2: him about radio hosts. Let's see if the answer is

835
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Speaker 2: the same way. This is Tony Katz today. You've got

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Speaker 2: the rates lowered a quarter point gonna make the markets happy.

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Speaker 2: One would assume they were up yesterday. They're up over

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Speaker 2: two hundred in the pre market on the down on

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Speaker 2: the NASDAK. But if you're lowering the rate a quarter

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Speaker 2: point the federal funds rate, you're saying the inflation is done,

841
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Speaker 2: it's complete, it's it's settled in. Well that's not true.

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Speaker 2: This economy is weird, Tony Kats. Doctor Matt Will joins

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Speaker 2: as economist at the University of Indianapolis. The pressure to

844
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Speaker 2: cut was absolutely massive. The three point three percent a GDP,

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Speaker 2: the retail sales of being up what we saw just

846
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Speaker 2: for some more recent information about producer price index stuff.

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Speaker 2: But the inflation still exists. So talk to me about

848
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Speaker 2: the rationale and the reasoning behind this quarter point cut.

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Speaker 14: Well, well, the rationale was pretty simple. It was one

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Speaker 14: hundred percent politics. There was so much pressure on him

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Speaker 14: to do this. I mean, even the new FED chairman,

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Speaker 14: you know, Stephen Miron, he was pushing for even a

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Speaker 14: bigger cut. The other FED representatives, they were pushing for cuts.

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Speaker 14: The president, as you know people on Wall Street they

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Speaker 14: love their low rate drug and he had no choice.

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Speaker 14: This was really a political he had some backbone for

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Speaker 14: a couple of months, and now he's caved and he's

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Speaker 14: not even lost his backbone. Now he's making bad decisions

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Speaker 14: across the board. So this was just an embarrassing decision.

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Speaker 14: He could have done a bigger rate cut with some

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Speaker 14: combined with some other decisions, or he could have done

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Speaker 14: no rate cut to fight inflation. This guy doesn't know

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Speaker 14: what he's doing. Jerome Poald needs to go.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you're gonna get disagreement from people like

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Speaker 2: say President Trump. But the quarter point conversation doesn't seem

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Speaker 2: like it's anything that makes anybody happy. It's not making

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Speaker 2: markets happy, doesn't make main street happy, is certainly not

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Speaker 2: politically is it going to make anybody happy? The new

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Speaker 2: FED chair, not the FED chair, new member of the

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Speaker 2: Federal Reserve, Miron wanted to have point. Everybody else was

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Speaker 2: agreed on the quarter point as we saw the results

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Speaker 2: of the vote, So why not go the step to

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Speaker 2: the half point and say, all right, you want to let.

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Speaker 14: It ride, let it ride. Well, he made a very

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Speaker 14: specific statement in the statement. Drome Pal said he called

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Speaker 14: it risk management because he was nervous about Okay, jobs

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Speaker 14: stink at the moment, and we've seen the job data.

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Speaker 14: I mean, it's just it's embarrassing how bad the job

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Speaker 14: numbers are at the moment. And then we still have

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Speaker 14: this is very high inflation four point eight percent. Remember

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Speaker 14: I'm the take the current month, multiply by twelve guy,

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Speaker 14: and last month zero point four percent. That's four point

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Speaker 14: eight per the year. This is a massive increase in inflation.

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Speaker 14: So he is in a no win situation. He wants

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Speaker 14: to create jobs and he wants to control inflation, so

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Speaker 14: he would he'd had nothing. He didn't know what to do.

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Speaker 14: But that's part of the problem here. They have two

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Speaker 14: mandates to create jobs and reduce inflation. Those are contradictory mandates.

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Speaker 14: They can the government can't create jobs. This has got

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Speaker 14: to stop, and they need to focus only on inflation.

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Speaker 14: The job part of it is bogus.

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Speaker 2: Talking with doctor Matt Will economists at the University of Indianapolis,

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Speaker 2: this brings us to the idea of inflation. I have

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Speaker 2: not seen anything that proves to me that inflation is

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Speaker 2: down in any way enough to cut rates. I know

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Speaker 2: people want it, and I get their point. I get

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Speaker 2: their argument. I'm willing to see what happens. But the

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Speaker 2: mask tells me that if the inflation is not down,

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Speaker 2: that cutting rates puts more cash into a system and

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Speaker 2: the inflation persists. Are we about to see an upgrade

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Speaker 2: in inflation?

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Speaker 14: Yes, you know, I'm You always ask me to predict

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Speaker 14: and I refuse, but I'm predicting on this, and it's

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Speaker 14: not just a prediction. The CPI was outrageous. The ism

906
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Speaker 14: inflation was outrage just the core PCE was outrageous. No

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Speaker 14: inflation is here and it's very strong. The economy is

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Speaker 14: still growing though. You know, this is where Trump deserved

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Speaker 14: a lot of credit. And the economy is three point

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Speaker 14: three percent up. But it's starting to be AI driven again.

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Speaker 14: You know you mentioned the market is up this morning.

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Speaker 14: It is up this morning, but it has nothing to

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Speaker 14: do with the rate cuts. When the rate cuts were announced,

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Speaker 14: the market state exactly flat. In fact, it was the

915
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Speaker 14: S and P went down and the Dow Jones went up.

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Speaker 14: There was nothing that impacted the market from the rate

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Speaker 14: cuts because it was as expected.

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Speaker 2: What's driving the market now is AI.

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Speaker 14: Micron capital expenditures, broad coom ten billion in new orders,

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Speaker 14: and Vidia announced are investing in Intel.

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Speaker 2: So wait, don't steal my thunder in video. The ship

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Speaker 2: maker is investing five billion in Intel after the United

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Speaker 2: States takes a ten percent stake in Intel, which I

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Speaker 2: vehemently oppose. But there's a real interesting question about in

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Speaker 2: Vidia because that's been one of the stocks. You know,

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Speaker 2: we talked about last year and how the market did

927
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Speaker 2: and there are basically these seven stocks AI stocks that

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Speaker 2: lifted the rest of the market. In video was one

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Speaker 2: of those. As you discussed Tony Kats today very often

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Speaker 2: talking to doctor Matt Wyle, autonomists at the University of Indianapolis.

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Speaker 3: Dr Matt will on the Twitter X finds him there.

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Speaker 2: Then we hear that China is saying, don't buy in

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Speaker 2: Nvidia chips, don't engage within Vidia. We don't want Chinese

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Speaker 2: companies doing anything within Vidia. But you already had the

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Speaker 2: allowance from the Trump administration for Nvidia tossault chips in China,

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Speaker 2: so which China would reverse engineer the chips, steal the

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Speaker 2: intellectual property, and then screw in Vidia by putting out

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Speaker 2: a lower cost chip. Now China is saying, don't even

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Speaker 2: use it. What is happening here?

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Speaker 14: What's happening in his politics? This is where you know

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Speaker 14: I'm one hundred percent on board with your analysis is

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Speaker 14: Trump shouldn't be investing in Intel. I think I think

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Speaker 14: Nvidia is investing Intel for two reasons. One is there's

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Speaker 14: excess capacity. It's a loser company. They can't make any chips.

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Speaker 14: Nobody's buying their chips. So they're saying, hey, there's excess capacity,

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Speaker 14: we need capacity, we're short of capacity.

947
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Speaker 2: We'll just buy some factories.

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Speaker 14: We'll invest in factories and they'll.

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Speaker 2: Make our chips.

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Speaker 14: The other part is politics. You know, now that Trump

951
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Speaker 14: is invested in Nvidia, he's an owner. Well, hey, I'm Nvidia,

952
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Speaker 14: I mean in Intel. He's investing in Intel. So Nvidia

953
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Speaker 14: is going to jump in and be happy with Trump.

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Speaker 14: Isn't that what everybody wants to do. They want to

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Speaker 14: make Trump their best friend. The King of England wants

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Speaker 14: to make him his best friend. So it's just politics

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Speaker 14: being involved here. And you're right, you're right. China has

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Speaker 14: Nvidia chips. They now have, you know, bought a whole

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Speaker 14: bunch of them, and they're saying, get lost, We're going

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Speaker 14: to invent these ourselves. We'll reverse engineering, we'll do it ourselves.

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Speaker 2: Bye bye. I mean, that's that's exactly what they're going

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Speaker 2: to do. The investment of five billion into Intel. Does

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Speaker 2: it change the fact that Intel has been a pretty

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Speaker 2: lousy company.

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Speaker 14: Does it change? Do you mean does it make them

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Speaker 14: into a good company. Yeah, no, it doesn't make them

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Speaker 14: into a good company. But they're just buying capacity. N

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Speaker 14: Video is just buying capacity. There's such a demand for

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Speaker 14: their chips. So a good example, Broadcom got a ten

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Speaker 14: bills billion dollar order for AI chips. That's one of

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Speaker 14: their competitors a ten billion dollar order. En Vidia sitting

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Speaker 14: around thinking we should have that order. Why didn't we

973
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Speaker 14: get that order? We need more factories. So they're just

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Speaker 14: buying Intel because Intel's got lots of excess capacity.

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Speaker 2: That it's just a good business decision. Talking to doctor

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Speaker 2: Matt Well, economist at the University of Indianapolis. One other

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Speaker 2: question here, and this is the one about American Express.

978
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Speaker 2: It was a story on CNBC. It's a very interesting story.

979
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Speaker 2: This is the headline. American Express unveils refreshed Platinum card

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Speaker 2: with eight hundred and ninety five dollars annual fee, upping

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Speaker 2: the anti in luxury cards. Now full disclosure, I have

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Speaker 2: a Platinum card. It is a six hundred ninety five

983
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Speaker 2: dollars annual fee. This has now been raised, but they're

984
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Speaker 2: going to give you all sorts of benefits. There's an

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Speaker 2: argument that's often made that in this economy, the rich

986
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Speaker 2: are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer.

987
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Speaker 3: Is that this is AMEX saying, well, you are already

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Speaker 3: part of the luxury brand.

989
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Speaker 2: Let us make it even more luxury by costing even more,

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Speaker 2: so you'll feel more excitement about your luxury cards. Is

991
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Speaker 2: this what we're seeing? Is this an example of, Hey,

992
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Speaker 2: if the rich are getting richer, I might as well

993
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Speaker 2: get a couple extra bucks.

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Speaker 14: Okay, first of all, it's not the rich getting richer.

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Speaker 14: The wealth gap is a fake phenomenon. It's fake news,

996
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Speaker 14: as we say. But what is happening is an a

997
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 14: full disclosure. I have the high end AMEX cards also.

998
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Speaker 14: I got two of them and I got to see you.

999
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Speaker 14: What they've learned is that that market when you and I, Tony,

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Speaker 14: when I add up the benefits I get. I mean

1001
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Speaker 14: I showed someone the other day who wants to get

1002
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Speaker 14: a new credit card. I said, look at the benefits

1003
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Speaker 14: I'm getting. And this is not a commercial for AMX. Please,

1004
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 14: I showed them. I was getting about six thousand dollars

1005
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 14: a year in AMEX benefits. You know what, they can

1006
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 14: probably afford to charge me a little bit more and

1007
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 14: I'll probably suck it up and pay for it.

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Speaker 2: Also, I am not doing an ad for Amex, but

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Speaker 2: if they want to be advertisers, this will be the

1010
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 2: right place to do it. I'd be a fantastic MX spokesperson.

1011
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 2: Really nothing, no, no, no backing me up there, doctor Will.

1012
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 14: I am one hundred percent on board. I mean, it's embarrassing.

1013
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 14: I don't want to be a shill, but I love.

1014
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 2: My AMEX card. I get so many benefits.

1015
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Speaker 14: I get two free global roundtrip airfares in first class

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Speaker 14: off of my AMEX card.

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Speaker 2: This is an impressive card.

1018
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 15: I really like it.

1019
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Speaker 3: We will talk more about all of your perks.

1020
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Speaker 2: The chatroom wants to know why the wealth gap is fake,

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Speaker 2: but we will have to discuss that at another time.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Matt Will, Economists, University of Indianapolis. Dr Matt Will

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Speaker 2: Will on the Twitter X more coming up. This is

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 5: One of the things I've been thinking a lot about

1026
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 5: lately is like this idea that all of these guns

1027
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Speaker 5: just enable us to have freedom. I don't feel very

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Speaker 5: free right now.

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Speaker 17: Right I don't think when somebody like Charlie Kirk is

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Speaker 17: able to be assassinated like that, that that may this

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Speaker 17: is a more free country, even if I vehemently agree

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Speaker 17: disagree with everything that he's ever said.

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Speaker 3: Wow, you really spend a lot of time thinking about that,

1034
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Speaker 3: David Hogg.

1035
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Speaker 2: That was a real deep thought to have to come

1036
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Speaker 2: to that political assassinations is not the way to being

1037
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Speaker 2: a more free country. You know what. Good on you

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Speaker 2: for at least coming to the right place that you

1039
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Speaker 2: actually had to think on that. Well, okay, you know what,

1040
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 2: you know what, that's me being cynical. Shan't be cynical.

1041
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Speaker 2: Let us just say well done, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today,

1042
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 2: good to be with you. I think it's still amazing

1043
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Speaker 2: that people interviewed David Hogg as if he has anything

1044
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Speaker 2: at all to offer. But this is about this very

1045
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 2: concept of toning down the rhetoric. All we are told

1046
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 2: is that we have to tone down the rhetoric. Trump

1047
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 2: needs to tone down the rhetoric. Where has the left

1048
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Speaker 2: toned down the rhetoric? And I want to share with

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Speaker 2: you two things to prove my point. The first is

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Speaker 2: Governor J. B. Pritzker on with Jensaki, who has done

1051
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Speaker 2: nothing to tone down the rhetoric from her days in

1052
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Speaker 2: the Obama team, from their days of the Biden team

1053
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Speaker 2: to her days on MSNBC.

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Speaker 3: Which is really all the same team.

1055
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Speaker 2: Nothing.

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Speaker 3: This is just a piece of their interview.

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Speaker 18: It's interesting you run up the government Michigan. There are

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Speaker 18: others who have decided in Congress too that they need

1059
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Speaker 18: to kind of lay low, they need to make deals.

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Speaker 18: There's questions about keeping the government open or not keeping

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Speaker 18: the government open.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like what you're saying is that's just.

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Speaker 2: Not going to work. Appeasing is not going to work.

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Speaker 18: And that's a lesson to other states where they want

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Speaker 18: to send National Guard or send ice or play nice,

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Speaker 18: but then still has plans to come after you.

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Speaker 19: Authoritarians want control, and every time they get someone to

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Speaker 19: act in the appeasing passion, they make one step toward

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Speaker 19: control and they will silence that group move on to

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Speaker 19: the next one. And this is actually it's the playbook.

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Speaker 19: You know, read on tyranny, read so many books about

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Speaker 19: how authoritarian regimes come about. That is what Donald Trump's

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Speaker 19: trying to effectuate.

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Speaker 2: Here. The President has judges all the time telling him

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Speaker 2: he can't do this. He can't do that because of

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Speaker 2: lawfare from progressives like JB. Pritzker, the governor of Illinois

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Speaker 2: and others. And he doesn't say we're doing it anyway.

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Speaker 2: He goes about obliging the courts. Hey, we want to

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Speaker 2: be able to surge resources into Chicago and save these people.

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Speaker 2: It's JB. Pritzker as opposed to it. And here's Trump.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what's really happens. Nothing. It wasn't authoritarian to

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Speaker 2: do so in DC. He had every right in the

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Speaker 2: world to do so. And the result is clear. And

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Speaker 2: we discussed yesterday that Steve Cohen the congressroom from Tennessee

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Speaker 2: a progressive, progressive, he's a lefty telling Cash Ptel, like

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Speaker 2: what the FBI has been doing in Memphis, glad to

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Speaker 2: see them in Memphis, the surge in Memphis. I don't

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Speaker 2: think we need the National Guard. But this, this group

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Speaker 2: of this group, this is good stuff. It's really helpful,

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Speaker 2: really appreciate the hard work being done, which is how

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Speaker 2: normal people should approach this. But no, can't approach it

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Speaker 2: like that, can only say, well, it's Trump being an

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Speaker 2: authoritarian when no part of this is true. Does that

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Speaker 2: tone down the rhetoric? The answer is, of course not.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't do anything to tone down the rhetoric. It

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Speaker 2: brings it up, It ratchets it up. It is the

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Speaker 2: continued maneuver by the political left to search for a

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Speaker 2: lone wolf. Then you have Randy Winingarten, who runs the

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Speaker 2: American Federation of Teachers.

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Speaker 3: And Randy Winingarten has a new book.

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Speaker 2: Oh good lord, she wrote a book, Why Fascists Fear Teachers.

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Speaker 3: I swear to you it is.

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Speaker 2: It is a book that she has written and she

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Speaker 2: wants you to know that Republicans and Conservatives are fascists.

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Speaker 2: And she goes on this podcast and here's the podcaster

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Speaker 2: bringing forth basically her theory of where we are today

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Speaker 2: and how fascist somehow we are for not agreeing with

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Speaker 2: her to get.

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Speaker 20: To getting to the book, I think it helps to

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Speaker 20: define fascism as as well as we can. And Man,

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Speaker 20: I had no idea about some of the history that

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Speaker 20: you talk about in the book, specifically with Norway's teachers

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Speaker 20: and fascism. American fascism isn't the same as German fascism,

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Speaker 20: or is even Italian fascism At the same time, I

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Speaker 20: think it's important to have some discernment there obviously, but

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Speaker 20: make no mistake, that is a pretty good definition of

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Speaker 20: where we're at according to fascism experts. How do you

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Speaker 20: define what we are seeing in America in twenty twenty

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Speaker 20: five as fascism, Well, let me.

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Speaker 3: Part of what I wanted to do. And look, Rachel

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Speaker 3: Mattow did this as well.

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Speaker 21: I thought she did this brilliantly in her books talking

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Speaker 21: about the story of American fascism in the thirties, you know,

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Speaker 21: in the thirties and forties in particular.

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Speaker 3: You think she's trying to tone down the rhetoric. The

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Speaker 3: same talk that was used to.

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Speaker 2: Radicalize the guy who tried to kill President Trump and

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Speaker 2: Butler Pennsylvania. The same talk, the bullet from this guy

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Speaker 2: who assassinated Charlie kirk Hey fascist catch. It's all part

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Speaker 2: of the same. You think they're toning down the rhetoric. Guys,

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Speaker 2: that's what they say because they don't want you to

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Speaker 2: speak about anything that is not what they do, it

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01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 2: is not what they believe.

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Speaker 3: They will keep the rhetoric going and going strong, and

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Speaker 3: they want power.

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Speaker 2: And we want a normal society where our kids aren't indoctrinated,

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Speaker 2: but educating. Break the teachers' union in two. Randy Weingarten

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Speaker 2: can't have any power. Keep it here.

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Speaker 1: It's Tony Katz today. Why from Vaal Hartbiner and the

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Speaker 1: Crossroads of America. It's Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: So it seems that the removal of Jimmy Kimmel from

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Speaker 2: his show has got the political left somewhat upset.

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Speaker 6: Because it's just despicable, disgusting and against democratic values.

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Speaker 2: Trump and his allies seem to want to shut down

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Speaker 2: speech that they don't like to hear.

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Speaker 6: That is not what democracies do. That is what autocracies do.

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Speaker 6: And it doesn't matter whether you agree with Kimmel or not.

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Speaker 2: He has the right to free speech. And so it

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Speaker 2: is just outrageous.

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Speaker 6: It is indicative of autocracy and I am just out

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Speaker 6: raged by it.

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Speaker 2: The right to free speech does that mean the same

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01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 2: thing as a right to a television show? I mean,

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Speaker 2: is that what we're referring to here? You have the

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Speaker 2: right to free speech, so therefore you have the right

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Speaker 2: to be on TV and not tell the truth? Is

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Speaker 2: this what Jimmy Kimmel gets and no one else gets?

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Speaker 2: And since when did the left all of a sudden

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Speaker 2: be believers and not the platforming people. Tony Katz, Tony

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Speaker 2: Katz today, good to be with you. Curtis how joins

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Speaker 2: us right now. He is from NewsBusters, where he is

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Speaker 2: the managing editor. You can find his work at NewsBusters

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Speaker 2: dot org. The story here, Curtis takes a couple of

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Speaker 2: different kind of pieces to it, because there's the statements

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Speaker 2: of Jimmy Kimmel himself, there's the leftist reaction. There's whether

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Speaker 2: or not you agree with Brendan Carr and his commentary

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Speaker 2: on the Beny podcast the other day, and whether not

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Speaker 2: the FCC should be involved in this. Let's start where

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Speaker 2: all this starts from. As you monitor these things and

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Speaker 2: watch these things, managing editor of NewsBusters, this is about

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Kimmel lying or is this about a joke regarding

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Speaker 2: the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 9: I mean it's a combination of all of these things, Tony.

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Speaker 9: I would say that the pressure from the FCC is

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Speaker 9: not something that should be the thrust of why they

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Speaker 9: made this decision. We looked at the Stephen Colbert cancelation.

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Speaker 9: The show costs about one hundred million. It was only

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Speaker 9: bringing in half that so it was losing a lot

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Speaker 9: of money every year for a staff of two hundred people.

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Speaker 9: You would think it's something very similar with Jimmy Kimmel.

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Speaker 9: And you add in the fact that Jimmy takes summers

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Speaker 9: off and he has a series of fill in hosts,

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Speaker 9: and this is.

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Speaker 5: A husband and wife combination. His wife is the head

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Speaker 5: writer at that show. But I think the Sinclair and

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Speaker 5: Next Star moves.

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Speaker 9: Those are two major TVs, the local TV conglomerates that

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Speaker 9: own many a huge percentage, overwhelming percentage of the local ABCCBSNBC, Fox,

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Speaker 9: CYW affiliates across the country.

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Speaker 5: They had made the decision to not show this.

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Speaker 9: Now the left has been saying that there's a grand

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Speaker 9: conspiracy Afoyd because they're try Next Star, which actually owns

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Speaker 9: the good people at Newstation as well. They are trying

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Speaker 9: to buy the Tegna stations, which is another smaller one,

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Speaker 9: so they are trying to receive FCC approval, and thus

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Speaker 9: they think they did this decision to curry favor and

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Speaker 9: then Sinclair.

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Speaker 5: Oh, there's a bunch of conservatives.

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Speaker 9: But you look at the substance of Kimmel's comments, it

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Speaker 9: was deeply offensive. He was trying to suggest a conspiracy

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01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 9: theory and be it wasn't even funny saying Trump's behaving

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Speaker 9: like a four.

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Speaker 5: Year old, Like what does that even mean? It wasn't

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Speaker 5: so pathetic.

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Speaker 2: I don't disagree about Kimmel, and certainly I would love

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Speaker 2: a gig where I make millions when I get summer off.

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Speaker 2: That is, that's pretty dreamy talking to Curtis Huck of NewsBusters.

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Speaker 2: Check it out for yourself NewsBusters dot org. But you

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01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 2: mentioned Next Star, You mentioned Sinclair, the deal that Next

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01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 2: Star is trying to engage with Tegna.

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Speaker 3: And the purchase of a whole bunch of stations there.

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Speaker 2: And are they now moving the affiliates to not carry

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Speaker 2: Kimmel to curry favor with the Trump administration, which I

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01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 2: would say is it would be a tremendous issue if

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Speaker 2: indeed was the case.

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Speaker 3: But in the in the conversation of the timeline, were

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Speaker 3: the affiliates.

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Speaker 2: Moving first, or was Brendan Carr, the head of the FCC,

1219
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 2: making this statement first? With chicken or egg which one

1220
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:48,719
Speaker 2: came first in this reaction to Jimmy Kimmel's comments about

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01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,719
Speaker 2: how the killer was clearly part of MAGA, when of course.

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Speaker 3: That's a lie.

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Speaker 9: They're trying to suggest that there's a cupall afoot. The

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01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 9: left is trying to suggest that that there's conspiracy theory

1225
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Speaker 9: a foot between CAR and these affiliate ownership groups in

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Speaker 9: the FCC and the Trump administration, that it's a if

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Speaker 9: you fire Kimmel or you pull Kimmel from the air,

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Speaker 9: will approve this. It was much the same situation with

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Speaker 9: Stephen Colbert and sky Dans the Ellison family buying CBS's

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Speaker 9: parent company, Paramount. That was the suggestion there as well. Also,

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Speaker 9: I would just say, like looking at the ratings in

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Speaker 9: the second quarter, Gottfeld was pulling in about three point

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Speaker 9: two million viewers I believe, and Kimmel.

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Speaker 5: Was less than half that.

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Speaker 9: And so and obviously Fox News a cable network not

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Speaker 9: subject to the same FCC scrutiny as ABCCBSNBC, and also

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01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 9: appears in way less homes than ABC does.

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Speaker 5: I'll just add our two things that we found.

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Speaker 9: My beat writer Alex Christy, who's been all over the

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Speaker 9: Late Night Show since September twenty twenty two, has found

1241
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Speaker 9: that since he started tracking guests September twenty twenty two

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Speaker 9: through the end of June Kimmel had fifty eight liberal

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Speaker 9: Democrats on the show versus two conservative Republicans, and in

1244
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 9: both cases were Mike Lindell being willing to be mocked

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Speaker 9: and so on and so forth, And he had twenty

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Speaker 9: twenty four Kimmel told three three hundred and thirty three

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Speaker 9: political jokes. Of those three thousand and fifty one were

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Speaker 9: aimed at the right ninety two percent. And the last

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Speaker 9: thing I'll just say this to me is, Jimmy Kimmel

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Speaker 9: is going to be allowed to if he doesn't come back,

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Speaker 9: go on and do whatever he wants.

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Speaker 5: He's still alive.

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Speaker 9: He's still alive. Charlie Kirk is not alive. Jimmy Kimmel

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Speaker 9: is alive. He is free to go about his life.

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Speaker 9: A SEC's fit. He's going to be fine. He's a

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Speaker 9: multimillionaire in Hollywood with plenty of friends.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Curtis how of NewsBusters dot Org, part of MRC.

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Speaker 3: That is the point.

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Speaker 2: And I took a respectable bit of umbrage with Mike Probiglia,

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Speaker 2: a comic who was quoted in Variety by saying, anybody

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Speaker 2: doesn't stand up for Jimmy Kimmel doesn't actually believe in

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Speaker 2: free speech, and I'm a comic and I've set up

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Speaker 2: for a lot of comics.

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Speaker 3: But this is a different argument. Nobody is stating that

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Speaker 3: Jimmy Kimmel.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't still own comedy clubs in Vegas and won't be

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Speaker 2: able to still get on stage, we won't be able

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Speaker 2: to have a YouTube channel, and won't be able to

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Speaker 2: do a whole series of things or get picked up

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Speaker 2: by another network. No one is making that argument. The

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Speaker 2: question is how did he come to be on the

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Speaker 2: outs of ABC. I agree with you on ratings. I

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Speaker 2: agree with you on the lack of funny. I agree

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Speaker 2: with you, and I I appreciate the numbers on the

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Speaker 2: number of times he had this kind of guests versus

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Speaker 2: that kind of guess the number of jokes here for

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Speaker 2: some number of jokes there. It's a hard work putting

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Speaker 2: all that data together. Good job by you and Christy

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01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 2: and then that entire team. But the question before us

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Speaker 2: is when we get into this conversation about deplatforming, it

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Speaker 2: was the political left that was overjoyed to engage a

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Speaker 2: level of deplatforming. You had Representative Accassio Cortes saying that

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Speaker 2: it was about time that there was some deep platforming.

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Speaker 2: And if you never heard what it is that Representative

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Speaker 2: Acossia Cortes said, let me play this to you for you.

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Speaker 3: This was posted to X.

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Speaker 4: Tucker Carlson is out at Fox News. Couldn't have happened

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Speaker 4: to a better guy. What I will say though, is well,

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Speaker 4: I'm very glad that the person that was arguably responsible

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Speaker 4: for the some of the largest driving some of the

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Speaker 4: most amounts of death threats and violent threats not just

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Speaker 4: to my office but to plenty of people across the country.

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Speaker 4: I also kind of feel like I'm waiting for the

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Speaker 4: cut scene at the end of a Marvel movie, after

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Speaker 4: all the credits have rolled and then you see like

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Speaker 4: the villains like hand to re emerge out to grip

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Speaker 4: over like the end.

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Speaker 21: Of a building or something.

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Speaker 5: But deplatforming works, and it is important, and.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 3: Deep platforming works.

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Speaker 2: Curtis, that's the word Democratic Party just a couple of

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Speaker 2: years ago, regards what you think of Tucker Carlson, But

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Speaker 2: they were very much into this, and you had a

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Speaker 2: Biden administration working over time with Facebook on this story.

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Speaker 3: Curtis.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I do love the fact that she kind of

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Speaker 9: seems to almost imply like, oh, yeah, this might come

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Speaker 9: back to bite us, but like, ah, who cares.

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Speaker 5: It's worth it. It's worth it in the end.

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Speaker 9: And I would add another one specific ABC, Roseanne Bar

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Speaker 9: Roseanne Bar was let go by ABC a second time,

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Speaker 9: and it was many of the same people celebrating this

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Speaker 9: entire thing.

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Speaker 5: An wait, look, the most important.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, I'll walk me through it, because I want

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Speaker 2: to make sure I remember properly. Remember she got let go,

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Speaker 2: but I don't remember the circumstances.

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Speaker 9: I believe she said something particularly races or offensive.

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Speaker 2: Or believed to be racist or yeah, something like that.

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Speaker 9: But the point was she was let go, and they

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Speaker 9: said it's a private company making decisions about who it

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Speaker 9: wants to employ, and everybody was just generally fine with that.

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Speaker 9: But I think the most important thing for viewers to

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Speaker 9: underline is the fact that, uh, the media here, they

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Speaker 9: are celebrated. They are more mournful of Jimmy Kimmel losing

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Speaker 9: his job than they were about Charlie Kirk losing his life. CNN,

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Speaker 9: MSNBC last night, with the exception of one of MSNBC

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Speaker 9: shows that was pre taped ahead.

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Speaker 5: Of time, it was wall to wall, wall to wall

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Speaker 5: with Kimmel last night. Nothing there.

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Speaker 9: Uh it is Uh, it was pathetic to see and

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Speaker 9: it really shows the priorities that these people have that

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Speaker 9: you know, in terms of where they what what interests them,

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Speaker 9: what interests them. You know that Kimmel lives and Kirk doesn't.

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Speaker 9: But again, after my folks, this is just a TV show.

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Speaker 9: It is just a TV show.

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Speaker 2: Walk me through that one. Talking to Curtis how Ofnewsbusters

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Speaker 2: dot Org, part of MRC, and Roseanne was fired because

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Speaker 2: it was a joke about Valerie Jarrett the Obama aid

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Speaker 2: referring to her as the offspring of and this is

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Speaker 2: the quote, I will say, the quote from Variety A

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Speaker 2: characterizing her as the offspring of the Muslim Brotherhood and

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Speaker 2: Planet of the Apes. And I mean it is an

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Speaker 2: offensive thing to say. I believe what Roseanne said is

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Speaker 2: that I didn't know she was even black, and then

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Speaker 2: it kind of exploded from there. So one could argue

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Speaker 2: that it was an offensive thing to say. But the

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Speaker 2: follow up argument is to your point, whereas the lap

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Speaker 2: was like, well, it's a private company, they can do

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Speaker 2: what they want. The question here is about the FCC

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Speaker 2: involvement in the Brendan Carr statements.

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Speaker 3: But you brought up something and I'll get to that.

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Speaker 2: That's it's very interesting you're talking about this in relationship

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Speaker 2: to Charlie Kirk, because of course that's where the statement

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Speaker 2: comes from in his assassination. Is it your view as

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Speaker 2: you monitor so many of these things as you do

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Speaker 2: over there NewsBusters, that the left is unwilling to recognize

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Speaker 2: the popularity of Kirk.

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Speaker 3: Are they unwilling to say that murder is wrong?

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Speaker 2: Are they unwilling to upset a progressive audience that might

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Speaker 2: vilify them for noticing that murder is wrong because you

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Speaker 2: don't like what somebody's saying. They're having a hard time

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Speaker 2: with just being rationally normal about saying that assassination is

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Speaker 2: not an answer to how we do things in America.

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Speaker 2: What is your take on what's keeping them from that?

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Speaker 2: What brings Jimmy Kimmel to want to say that I'm

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Speaker 2: going to lie about who assassinated Kirk? Because well, for

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Speaker 2: name the reason?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I would say, first of all, the easy answer

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Speaker 9: is he's friends with a lot of them.

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Speaker 5: Jake Tapper was particularly.

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Speaker 9: Emotionally aggrieved yesterday both on his show and he did

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Speaker 9: a little murrow as he likes to call it.

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Speaker 5: He did a monologue from.

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Speaker 9: His house wearing a Phillious City Connects sweatshirt, talking about

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Speaker 9: how evil was in the Grand Conspiracy a foot between

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Speaker 9: Next Star and Sinclair and teg nun Brendon Carr and

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Speaker 9: everything else. But I think at a much deeper level, Tony,

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Speaker 9: it has to do with the facts that many of

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Speaker 9: these people they derive their happiness or lack thereof, from politics,

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Speaker 9: whether they are in power or not, whether they are

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Speaker 9: engaging in institutional capture or not. And what twenty twenty

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Speaker 9: four has shown and what the last week has been

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Speaker 9: another reminder tragically, is that to them that they are

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Speaker 9: not in control. And so you look at the media coverage,

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Speaker 9: and this is something I've been thinking about a lot,

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Speaker 9: which is that they've been on this interesting path in

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Speaker 9: just eight days. When it first happened, you saw some

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Speaker 9: people because it was a shocking event. And this is

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Speaker 9: the interesting thing that happens when a shocking, tragic event happens,

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Speaker 9: or breaking news event happens that's unexpected. A profession that

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Speaker 9: thrives on groupthink has to fight it's every man or

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Speaker 9: woman for himself. They sometimes and actually offer genuine, solid, smart,

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Speaker 9: thoughtful reactions and we saw that from some people. Brian

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Speaker 9: Stelter pointed out that this country really only works if

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Speaker 9: we solve our disagreements with words, not violence. But you

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Speaker 9: had other people Matt Dowd, Katie Turr talked about hateful

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Speaker 9: thoughts and calling them controversial, and the lightning rod and

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Speaker 9: so on and so forth.

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Speaker 5: And then they try to say it was a right winger,

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Speaker 5: which is where Jimmy Kimmel comes in.

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Speaker 9: And then they were trying to say the shooter himself

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Speaker 9: is responsible for his actions, unlike what they tried to

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Speaker 9: do after, say the El Paso mass shooting at the walmart,

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Speaker 9: where they said, oh, President Trump likely inspired this deranged

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Speaker 9: xenophobic person because Trump wants to build the wall. But

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Speaker 9: now it's the power of love, and they're trying to

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Speaker 9: between Matt Gutman the video clip that I found first

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Speaker 9: from ABC and Montel Williams on CNN a few nights ago.

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Speaker 9: They're trying to say murderers or people too, as I

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Speaker 9: told Doctor Drew yesterday, but it just shows that they

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Speaker 9: are so they have no true moral compass. While they

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Speaker 9: do have a moral compass, but it's for only for

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Speaker 9: themselves and for their own ideology. And because Kimmel is

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Speaker 9: part of that apparatus, right, He's the guy who does

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Speaker 9: their fundraisers and so on and so forth, they see

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Speaker 9: that as a personal attack on them, and they refuse

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Speaker 9: to realize or accept the fact that a lot of

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Speaker 9: people don't feel that way. And last thing, I'll just

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Speaker 9: say that because this ties into people getting fired from

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Speaker 9: their jobs because of people celebrating the Charlie kirkassassination. It's

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Speaker 9: like these people have never heard of company code of conducts.

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Speaker 9: You know, Yes, people are gonna get fired from your jobs.

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Speaker 9: If you walk into your bosses off and you curse

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Speaker 9: them out and you talk about how they're a horrible person.

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Speaker 5: You know, like that's going to happen.

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Speaker 9: You sexually harass someone at the office, probably going to

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Speaker 9: get fired. It's very much the same kind of thing

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Speaker 9: in terms of yeah, company code of conduct or else.

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Speaker 5: You can't just say free speech.

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Speaker 2: I've got more with Curtis Hawk from NewsBusters dot org

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Speaker 2: coming up. Keep it here. I'm Tony Katz. This is

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz Today. Find everything at Tony Katz dot com.

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Speaker 2: Continuing the conversation with Curtis Hawk of NewsBusters dot org.

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz Tony Katz today want to get into a

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Speaker 2: conversation about Brendan Carr. I want to hear more about

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Speaker 2: the affiliates that decided to drop Jimmy Kimmel, and I'm

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Speaker 2: curious to hear from more of these affiliates.

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Speaker 3: About what they thought about what Kimmel was putting on

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Speaker 3: the air every day.

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Speaker 2: But this brings us to Brendan Carr, the chair of

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Speaker 2: the Chief of the FCC Federal Communications Commission. In your view,

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Speaker 2: his comments on the the podcast about the affiliate should

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Speaker 2: be paying attention to this and we need to stand

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Speaker 2: up to this, we need to do something about this.

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Speaker 2: In your view, did he go too far?

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Speaker 9: I would say what he said is correct. I would

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Speaker 9: say the easy way or the hard way part is

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Speaker 9: going to be karate chopped by the left. That's probably

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Speaker 9: the only thing I would say. We can do this

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Speaker 9: the easy way or the hard way. That's the only

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Speaker 9: clip that I've really seen that's come back to bite

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Speaker 9: him in the twenty four hours from the Benny Show.

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Speaker 5: But otherwise what he said is correct.

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Speaker 9: In fact, I was just having a conversation with one

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Speaker 9: of my colleagues, the great Dan Schneider, about this.

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Speaker 5: I took a bunch of classes in college.

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Speaker 9: Now you know this was I was twenty ten to

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Speaker 9: twenty fourteen at Great Penn State University, and so a lot.

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Speaker 5: Of the media classes I took. They point this out

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Speaker 5: about the FCC, that the broadcast networks.

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Speaker 9: And this is where Brendan Carr has been masterful as

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Speaker 9: FCC chairman, educating the public because.

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Speaker 5: What he say is entirely factual.

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Speaker 9: It's not going to get fact checked because these fact

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Speaker 9: checkers know it's true when they don't want to give

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Speaker 9: them credit for saying this. ABC, CBSNBC radio stations they

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Speaker 9: operate under different rules. They are granted licenses over the

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Speaker 9: airwaves in television's case via the old proverbial rabbit ears

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Speaker 9: by the FCC. They have to operate in the interest

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Speaker 9: of the public good. They have to provide educational programming,

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Speaker 9: whereas CNN, MSNBC, you know Current TV. Back in the

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Speaker 9: day with Al Gore, those networks operated separately.

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Speaker 5: So any leftist that you may see on Blue Ski

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Speaker 5: or one.

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Speaker 9: Of these other places trying to say they're going to

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Speaker 9: come for CNN or The New York Times, the FCC

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Speaker 9: is going to drag them down. That is not really

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Speaker 9: a thing because they operate under a wholly separate, different

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Speaker 9: set of rule than everyone else. Is more up to

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Speaker 9: the cable companies and the providers to the streamers about

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Speaker 9: whether they are.

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Speaker 5: Given platforms or not.

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Speaker 9: Where's ABCCBSNBC are a whole separate category and therefore their

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Speaker 9: bar in terms of what their programming has to meet

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Speaker 9: is way higher.

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Speaker 2: Well, I will tell you that I understand and I agree.

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Speaker 2: But those people who are concerned about going after some

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Speaker 2: of these platforms, they're the ones who told us if

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Speaker 2: we didn't like Twitter, why don't we start our own

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Speaker 2: and they started Parlor and then they said, well, we're

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Speaker 2: not going to allow that on the app app store, this,

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Speaker 2: that and the other, and they did that safety.

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Speaker 3: Platforming of actual entire platforms, not just people, the.

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Speaker 2: Curtis how all of NewsBusters dot org. I appreciate taking

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Speaker 2: the time for you with us. More coming up. I'm

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz Today. President Trump continues

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Speaker 2: the trip through the UK, the big dinner with King

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Speaker 2: Charles that took place just last night, and now getting

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Speaker 2: ready for a press conference with the Prime Minister.

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Speaker 3: Tony Katz. Tony Katz today, Good.

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Speaker 2: To be with you. Find everything over at Tony Katz

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Speaker 2: dot com. The story of the dinner last night I

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Speaker 2: thought was something else because President Trump said this, and

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Speaker 2: I don't think enough.

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01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:33,479
Speaker 3: Credence has been given to this.

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01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 2: Where the President speaking in front of King Charles and

1509
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:42,560
Speaker 2: the assembled guests, and everyone's in the fancy tuxes and

1510
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:46,720
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, the pomp and circumstance. Listen to the

1511
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 2: statement from the President.

1512
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:53,679
Speaker 12: We're joined by history and trade, by love and language,

1513
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:59,639
Speaker 12: and by transcendent times of culture, tradition, ancestry, and destiny.

1514
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:04,599
Speaker 12: We're like two notes in one court, or two verses

1515
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:08,799
Speaker 12: of the same poll, each beautiful on its.

1516
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:11,360
Speaker 13: Own, but really meant to be played together.

1517
01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:15,840
Speaker 12: The bond of kinship and identity between America and the

1518
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 12: United Kingdom is priceless and eternal.

1519
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 13: It's irreplaceable and unbreakable.

1520
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:24,800
Speaker 12: And we are as a country, as you're now doing

1521
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:31,400
Speaker 12: unbelievably well. We had a very sick country one year

1522
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 12: ago and today I believe were the hottest country anywhere

1523
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:35,840
Speaker 12: in the world.

1524
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:38,360
Speaker 13: In fact, nobody's even questioning it.

1525
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 12: But we owe so much of that to you and

1526
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 12: the footing that you gave us when we started together.

1527
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:48,000
Speaker 12: We've done more good for humanity than any two countries

1528
01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 12: in all of history. Together, we must defend the exceptional

1529
01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:55,760
Speaker 12: heritage that makes us who we are, and we must

1530
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:59,280
Speaker 12: continue to stand for the values and the people of

1531
01:32:59,439 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 12: the England speaking world, and we do indeed stand for them.

1532
01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:06,720
Speaker 13: On behead of all Americans, I offer a toast to

1533
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:11,920
Speaker 13: one of the great friendships, to two great countries, and

1534
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:13,840
Speaker 13: to his Majesty.

1535
01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:18,800
Speaker 12: King Charles the Third, a very very special man and

1536
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:22,080
Speaker 12: also a very very special queen. Thank you very much,

1537
01:33:22,479 --> 01:33:23,920
Speaker 12: thank you, thank you very much.

1538
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:26,080
Speaker 2: He's always saying thank you very much. That was a

1539
01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:28,720
Speaker 2: very interesting statement. I mean, don't get me wrong, a

1540
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 2: little bit of ramble there. I mean, that's what President

1541
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 2: Trump does. Of course, he's going to talk about how

1542
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:36,559
Speaker 2: great America is a there is no moments where he's

1543
01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 2: not going to.

1544
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 3: Engage something absolutely like that.

1545
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:46,679
Speaker 2: But the statement regarding the English speaking world, we must

1546
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 2: continue to stand for the values and the people of

1547
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:51,759
Speaker 2: the English speaking world.

1548
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:59,879
Speaker 3: This is Donald Trump making the statements to the King out.

1549
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:05,920
Speaker 2: That we have got a threat regarding Western civilization or

1550
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:09,000
Speaker 2: against Western civilization from Islamis and we have to do

1551
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:13,960
Speaker 2: something about it. This was not I think some people

1552
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 2: might take that as here he is talking about we

1553
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 2: have to protect Christians. I don't think that's the argument here.

1554
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:24,400
Speaker 2: I think this is the most full throat, it's an

1555
01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:29,400
Speaker 2: interesting way to say it, statement of you are losing

1556
01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 2: your nation because you have.

1557
01:34:31,439 --> 01:34:37,120
Speaker 16: Lost your mind, and we need to stop this, and

1558
01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:41,519
Speaker 16: the only way to stop this is to admit that

1559
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 16: Islamists are not compatible with the Western way of life,

1560
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:48,160
Speaker 16: not compatible with the English speaking world, which is the

1561
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:52,640
Speaker 16: Western world, and they must be defeated.

1562
01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:56,439
Speaker 2: And we must do something about that. Now you've heard

1563
01:34:56,520 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 2: me say this before on more than one occasion. It

1564
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:06,240
Speaker 2: goes without question, as clear as the day is long,

1565
01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:12,640
Speaker 2: as clear as I'm standing here right now, that the

1566
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 2: UK has been overrun, and that King William, when he

1567
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 2: becomes king, will be the last king.

1568
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:23,800
Speaker 3: He'll be the very last king. There will be no

1569
01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 3: King George. It won't happen because the country will be overtaken.

1570
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:36,480
Speaker 3: The country will go down in ruins, and the Islamist,

1571
01:35:37,439 --> 01:35:41,559
Speaker 3: because conquest is part of the Qur'an, will tear down

1572
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:45,680
Speaker 3: every vestige of the British Empire or whatever there is

1573
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:50,000
Speaker 3: left of it, every vestige of Buckingham Palace, every vestige.

1574
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:56,080
Speaker 2: There is a parliament, every piece of art. Not because

1575
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:58,720
Speaker 2: I'm some kind of bigot. How dare you?

1576
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:04,000
Speaker 3: How are they? No, it's because I've read a book

1577
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:08,439
Speaker 3: and this is how it works.

1578
01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:13,759
Speaker 2: This is how it happens time and time and time

1579
01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:19,719
Speaker 2: and time again. This is it in its totality. That's

1580
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:25,560
Speaker 2: what is coming. So what's your plan? Would you like

1581
01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:28,400
Speaker 2: to see your son be the last king? Or would

1582
01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:30,760
Speaker 2: you like to know in your heart of hearts that

1583
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:35,000
Speaker 2: your grandson will take the throne that your mother sat

1584
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:39,679
Speaker 2: on and did everything to protect everything that is except

1585
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:44,400
Speaker 2: say to the government, what are you doing? Do you

1586
01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 2: want to be Britons or not? What a statement? What

1587
01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:55,160
Speaker 2: a line? That is a line worthy of Reagan, And

1588
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 2: it is impressive that it got said. My problem is

1589
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:03,520
Speaker 2: is that I doubt very highly that it will be discussed,

1590
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:08,400
Speaker 2: and it needs to be. They will argue, and you

1591
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 2: know who they are, that you are an islamophobe for

1592
01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 2: saying such things. Sharia and Islamists are incompatible with Western civilization.

1593
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:18,759
Speaker 3: It is just a fact.

1594
01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:21,200
Speaker 2: I will not be called any name, and I do

1595
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:25,200
Speaker 2: not care about the name. The facts remain, and the

1596
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 2: reason they call you a name is to keep you

1597
01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:31,200
Speaker 2: from speaking such truth out loud. Nope, We're going to

1598
01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 2: have this conversation to the end. You'll notice I didn't

1599
01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:39,679
Speaker 2: say Muslims. I said is Lomists. There is a difference,

1600
01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:42,679
Speaker 2: and one could argue that the entirety of the religion

1601
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:45,280
Speaker 2: of Islam could go through a reformation that might be

1602
01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:48,200
Speaker 2: good for it and more lucidating in engaging these different

1603
01:37:48,240 --> 01:37:51,439
Speaker 2: concepts in different philosophies and the issues they're in. I'm

1604
01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:54,439
Speaker 2: not going to argue against I would actually support a reformation.

1605
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:56,880
Speaker 2: I would support a Hey, do we all know what

1606
01:37:56,920 --> 01:38:00,799
Speaker 2: we're saying here? Well, Tony, there are billions of Muslims

1607
01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 2: and there are only this many who are radicalized? Only

1608
01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:05,840
Speaker 2: this many?

1609
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:08,920
Speaker 3: How many Muslims.

1610
01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:17,320
Speaker 2: In the world. Just so you understand your numbers, Just

1611
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:23,599
Speaker 2: so you understand your numbers, there are two billion Muslims

1612
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:25,840
Speaker 2: in the world. Is that right?

1613
01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:28,080
Speaker 3: Is that the number?

1614
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:28,280
Speaker 21: I mean?

1615
01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:30,839
Speaker 2: I've got to hear from a few research center global

1616
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:35,920
Speaker 2: count in twenty twenty two billion Muslims five point eight

1617
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:44,040
Speaker 2: billion non Muslims. Okay, so now how many radicalized? What

1618
01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:46,719
Speaker 2: we could talk about radicalized Christians. We can't talk about

1619
01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:49,880
Speaker 2: radicalized Muslims. Of course, we can. We're going to talk

1620
01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:53,280
Speaker 2: about anybody radicalized that we choose to. You just got

1621
01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:56,240
Speaker 2: to have the conversation, honestly and clearly. That's it. But

1622
01:38:56,360 --> 01:39:03,320
Speaker 2: if you have two billion Muslims, what percentage of radicalized

1623
01:39:03,479 --> 01:39:10,920
Speaker 2: is okay with you? One percent sebi twenty million, twenty million,

1624
01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:15,840
Speaker 2: one percent of two billion, ten percent is two hundred million,

1625
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:23,680
Speaker 2: and one percent is twenty million. That's a lot. If

1626
01:39:23,720 --> 01:39:27,360
Speaker 2: it was just one percent, that would be a lot.

1627
01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:33,160
Speaker 2: And what is radicalized radicalized our being adherents and believers

1628
01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:36,040
Speaker 2: and concepts of Sharia and the abuse that it brings.

1629
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:38,799
Speaker 3: It's it's in their own teaching.

1630
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:41,160
Speaker 2: So now we have to ask ourselves when I talk

1631
01:39:41,160 --> 01:39:46,080
Speaker 2: about reformation, am I so off base? It's the argument

1632
01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:51,320
Speaker 2: that one could use for the Bible for Christians that, Okay,

1633
01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:54,840
Speaker 2: we believe these tenants, we believe these things, but the

1634
01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:57,000
Speaker 2: whole stoning of people who do X y Z. We're

1635
01:39:57,040 --> 01:40:01,719
Speaker 2: not into that anymore. Could argue that you're picking and choosing,

1636
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:06,280
Speaker 2: and I'll leave others to that issue. Faith ain't easy, booboo.

1637
01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:10,800
Speaker 2: But when we talk about what we follow these tenants here,

1638
01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:13,400
Speaker 2: but we don't do these things here, That's what I'm

1639
01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 2: referring to at what moments has Islam done this?

1640
01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:20,280
Speaker 3: And it's a worthy question that can be had. There's

1641
01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:21,680
Speaker 3: nothing hateful about that.

1642
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:24,559
Speaker 2: But if you ask me, do I have an issue

1643
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:27,200
Speaker 2: with Islamists who believe in Sharia, who think that those

1644
01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:29,560
Speaker 2: who aren't Muslims should pay the jija, who believe that

1645
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:32,200
Speaker 2: they should be able to engage in conquest. If I

1646
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:35,920
Speaker 2: have an issue with those who take over territories throughout history,

1647
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 2: put up their own statues or put up their own

1648
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:40,800
Speaker 2: monuments like the Dome of the Rock, and claim this

1649
01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:43,599
Speaker 2: was ours and therefore it will always be ours even

1650
01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:47,200
Speaker 2: if we're thrown out years later, well, then yes, yes

1651
01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:52,439
Speaker 2: I do. I'm engaged in a historical conversation and talking

1652
01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:55,720
Speaker 2: about religions of the world and how things have played out.

1653
01:40:56,720 --> 01:41:01,479
Speaker 3: You want me to apologize? That sounds crazy. Why in

1654
01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:04,360
Speaker 3: the world would I apologize for honesty.

1655
01:41:06,479 --> 01:41:10,400
Speaker 2: The conversation that Donald Trump is having is that conversation

1656
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:16,759
Speaker 2: is lomister incompatible with Western civilization, with the English speaking world.

1657
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:21,000
Speaker 2: That is what I believe he was talking about. That's

1658
01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:25,920
Speaker 2: what I believe he was saying. Now, maybe when asked

1659
01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:30,240
Speaker 2: about it, he sees it differently. And he says, well, no, no,

1660
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:35,920
Speaker 2: it's it's actually this that I meant to say. Maybe maybe,

1661
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:39,200
Speaker 2: but until that time, this.

1662
01:41:39,320 --> 01:41:43,160
Speaker 3: Is my take, and I think it's a very important

1663
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:44,280
Speaker 3: thing he said to the King.

1664
01:41:45,320 --> 01:41:48,120
Speaker 2: And I only hope that the King and the Prince

1665
01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:50,800
Speaker 2: take that message to heart and turn to their people

1666
01:41:51,160 --> 01:41:56,840
Speaker 2: on a purely honest, emotional, self preservation level and say,

1667
01:41:57,000 --> 01:42:00,960
Speaker 2: forget Sadecon, the mayor of London, forget what this madness.

1668
01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:07,519
Speaker 2: We are Briton's. We are here to stay. The empire does.

1669
01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:09,400
Speaker 3: Not fall on our watch.

1670
01:42:11,439 --> 01:42:15,080
Speaker 2: We have made a mistake and we must correct. Do

1671
01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:17,560
Speaker 2: you think that affects the whole of Britain. Absolutely not.

1672
01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:19,479
Speaker 2: Do you think it affects people who are trying to

1673
01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:22,960
Speaker 2: destroy Britain and destroy Western civilization? Absolutely does. Do you

1674
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 2: think there'll be a fight that ensues, You bet our

1675
01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:27,720
Speaker 2: lives is going to be lost. Absolutely But you did

1676
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:30,479
Speaker 2: this to yourself, Great Britain, and you must correct.

1677
01:42:31,960 --> 01:42:36,519
Speaker 3: You must correct the problem, which we can be clear,

1678
01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:37,519
Speaker 3: is a problem.

1679
01:42:38,479 --> 01:42:41,600
Speaker 2: No one denies it. Only the people who want to

1680
01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:45,000
Speaker 2: engage further conquest will say, well, you're in islamophobe, you're

1681
01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:48,440
Speaker 2: this or that. No one of a rational mind denies.

1682
01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:52,519
Speaker 2: This history is on my side. The facts on the

1683
01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:57,280
Speaker 2: ground are on my side. Can you live in a

1684
01:42:57,360 --> 01:43:03,240
Speaker 2: pluralist society? Can you live with all religions absoluolutely? Can

1685
01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:05,560
Speaker 2: you live with people who believe they should dominate you

1686
01:43:05,680 --> 01:43:07,759
Speaker 2: and subjugate you because of their religious beliefs?

1687
01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:16,320
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I'm Tony Kax. This is Tony Kats.

1688
01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:20,439
Speaker 8: Today Fox News has severed bow ties with Tucker Carlson.

1689
01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:24,679
Speaker 8: After all these years, they are parting ways, which means

1690
01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:27,000
Speaker 8: he was fired. I mean, that's really what parting wigs means.

1691
01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:32,080
Speaker 8: Tucker couldn't be reached for comment. He's already on a

1692
01:43:32,120 --> 01:43:35,160
Speaker 8: plane to Moscow to meet with his manager. But what

1693
01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:38,840
Speaker 8: a shock, I mean, what an absolutely delightful shock. This

1694
01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:42,240
Speaker 8: is Now Tucker can spend more time at home tanning

1695
01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:43,160
Speaker 8: his testicles and.

1696
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:46,479
Speaker 3: Touching himself to that sexy green M and M.

1697
01:43:46,600 --> 01:43:50,040
Speaker 8: Sadly, he's probably not done poisoning old people's brains. The

1698
01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:52,120
Speaker 8: question now is where will he do it next? Will

1699
01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:53,879
Speaker 8: he go to O A N Will he go to Newsmax?

1700
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:56,679
Speaker 8: Will he crawl back up Satan's fiery bee hole?

1701
01:43:56,760 --> 01:43:57,519
Speaker 3: From whence he came?

1702
01:43:57,600 --> 01:44:00,920
Speaker 8: We don't know one of the most despicable Tucker's ever

1703
01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:03,560
Speaker 8: to appear on American television.

1704
01:44:04,479 --> 01:44:06,559
Speaker 2: And this is why I will not shed a tear

1705
01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:12,640
Speaker 2: for Jimmy Kimmel cheering Tucker Carlson being fired. Listen, I

1706
01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:15,120
Speaker 2: think Tucker's gone down a dark path. I am not

1707
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:18,880
Speaker 2: a fan. I'm not a believer. Nothing he says I

1708
01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:22,240
Speaker 2: would ever give its credence. Those days are over, but

1709
01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:24,519
Speaker 2: at least there was a moment as opposed to you,

1710
01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:27,800
Speaker 2: Jimmy Kimmel, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be

1711
01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:30,040
Speaker 2: with you. I have no issue with him being fired,

1712
01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:34,120
Speaker 2: and absolutely the affiliates being in revolt because Jimmy Kimmel

1713
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:37,599
Speaker 2: engaged in a conversation that is revolting, lying about who

1714
01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:39,559
Speaker 2: assassinated Charlie Kirk.

1715
01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:42,200
Speaker 3: That's just the end thing.

1716
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:46,000
Speaker 2: That's the final straw. It's been a massive history of

1717
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:51,000
Speaker 2: just abuse of half an audience, half of America. I've

1718
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:53,760
Speaker 2: always stated that these late night shows were nothing more

1719
01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:57,559
Speaker 2: than a wink and a nod to the fellow travelers, saying, yeah,

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01:44:57,560 --> 01:44:58,960
Speaker 2: I know we have to do this news product for

1721
01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:02,600
Speaker 2: sometimes we gotta be honest about things. But you know

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01:45:02,720 --> 01:45:04,320
Speaker 2: where we really are, and that's why we've got these

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01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:07,160
Speaker 2: late night guys to deliver the hammer we do in

1724
01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:08,799
Speaker 2: the mornings, with the view we do in the evenings

1725
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:12,840
Speaker 2: with Jimmy Kimmel, we're really on your side, Progressives. He

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01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:16,400
Speaker 2: wasn't any good at the thing. He wasn't interested in

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01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:18,400
Speaker 2: the comedy of the thing. He might have told a

1728
01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:21,240
Speaker 2: good joke every now and again, but he wasn't interested

1729
01:45:21,320 --> 01:45:24,720
Speaker 2: in actually entertaining. He was taking talking points directly from

1730
01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:27,240
Speaker 2: the political left, directly from Senator Schumer when.

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01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:27,960
Speaker 3: It came to healthcare.

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01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:32,000
Speaker 2: They admitted as much, and he was indeed lying about

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01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:36,679
Speaker 2: what happened with Charlie Kirk there, and it was clearly

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01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:41,120
Speaker 2: for affiliates, we're done here, We're done now. I'm not

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01:45:41,240 --> 01:45:45,600
Speaker 2: a fan of what Brendan Carr, the head of the

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01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:49,920
Speaker 2: FCC did on the Benny Johnson podcast with this the

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01:45:49,960 --> 01:45:52,120
Speaker 2: affiliates would really be looking into him. I don't want

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01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:54,840
Speaker 2: to see that from the FCC. What happens when the

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01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:57,080
Speaker 2: left controls of the FCC and they say we really

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01:45:57,080 --> 01:45:59,160
Speaker 2: should be looking into Tony Katz today and all the

1741
01:45:59,200 --> 01:46:05,519
Speaker 2: affiliates his show, I engage on his conversations. I'm not

1742
01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:09,040
Speaker 2: going to have to concern myself with whether or not

1743
01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:11,320
Speaker 2: I present a conversation and then my point of view.

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01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:15,080
Speaker 2: I don't have to lie to get ratings or get

1745
01:46:15,200 --> 01:46:19,599
Speaker 2: laughs as opposed to Jimmy Kimmel, but that won't matter

1746
01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:22,559
Speaker 2: when they decide to come for you, utilizing the full

1747
01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:26,680
Speaker 2: force of the government. That's what I oppose, and I

1748
01:46:26,840 --> 01:46:30,439
Speaker 2: think that Brendan Carr was wrong. I do not think

1749
01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:33,439
Speaker 2: it is wrong to say we have these standards and

1750
01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:36,160
Speaker 2: these rules, and we have to now go apply them.

1751
01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:39,120
Speaker 2: I don't think it's wrong for the affiliates to say

1752
01:46:39,479 --> 01:46:44,640
Speaker 2: it's enough. He's a disgusting person. It's over ABC. And

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01:46:44,760 --> 01:46:46,800
Speaker 2: I don't think it's wrong that ABC said we're done

1754
01:46:46,840 --> 01:46:49,439
Speaker 2: with you now. I just hope they stick to it.

1755
01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:52,320
Speaker 2: But we should be clear. If you think that this

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01:46:52,439 --> 01:46:55,160
Speaker 2: is a free speech conversation, who in the world is

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01:46:55,280 --> 01:46:58,000
Speaker 2: keeping Jimmy Kimmel from going on tour or engaging a

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01:46:58,040 --> 01:47:01,880
Speaker 2: YouTube channel. No one, of course, he can still speak.

1759
01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:06,960
Speaker 2: ABC doesn't have to platform him though. I mean, that's

1760
01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:08,759
Speaker 2: what the left he's been telling us for years.

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01:47:09,640 --> 01:47:13,120
Speaker 3: Find everything at Tony Kats dot com the new substact.

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Speaker 2: You'll see that soon tomorrow. Everyone take care