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Speaker 1: We are back.

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Speaker 2: It is Colts corner with myself, Kevin Bowen and Eddie

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Speaker 2: Garrison is across the way Colts hovering right around another

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Speaker 2: touchdown favorite, and I would venture to guess a quarterback

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Speaker 2: injury out in the desert could influence the fluctuation of

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Speaker 2: Colts and Cardinals in Week six, Eddie Garrison, are we

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Speaker 2: getting to Jacoby Burssette tribute video?

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Speaker 1: Has he made an appearance to I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: I think he's played against the Colts, but I don't

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Speaker 2: think in the building. Maybe, just like thirty QB Sneaks,

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Speaker 2: they could just.

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Speaker 1: Edit together and the hail Mary the Great.

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Speaker 2: Didn't he have a great play to two Y Hilton

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Speaker 2: one time too against Denver? They seemed to recall that

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Speaker 2: being a great play. I should give Jacobe more credit

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Speaker 2: than that. But yeah, we'll see how all of that

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Speaker 2: unfolds here coming up as we get into Colts and

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Speaker 2: Cardinals in Week six, A little bit of a newsyer

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Speaker 2: week than typical. Obviously, we got a kicker injury and

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Speaker 2: of his former players those will probably be the big

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Speaker 2: news items. But how you doing, sir?

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Speaker 1: Doing well? As you know, I've been out the last

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Speaker 1: handful of Mondays doing some stuff here, and unfortunately, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: So on Saturday, Leving and I we're going on vacation

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Speaker 1: for a week. So I think it'll be you and

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Speaker 1: as a birthday president. She happy belated birthday to Mattie Bowen.

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Speaker 1: She can make a podcast appearance next week as your

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, yeah, I'm gonna be in a

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Speaker 2: little bit scrambled mode next week, but deservedly so a

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Speaker 2: little vak for you as you finally found a little

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Speaker 2: bit of quiet time between your basketball producing that you

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Speaker 2: do and for us here we're going to be moving

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Speaker 2: a few of these Mondays. All right, let's get to

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Speaker 2: the biggest news item here of the week, and that

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Speaker 2: is a return of Michael Badgeley to the Indianapolis Colts

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Speaker 2: eight kicker tryout on Tuesday, Badgely the winner of that.

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Speaker 2: You know, Eddie, I think this analogy might be horrific,

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Speaker 2: so feel free to say if it is. But anytime

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Speaker 2: you sign a kicker in season, that kicker is going

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Speaker 2: to have warts. I think the best case scenario is

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Speaker 2: if those warts are covered on your butt and not necessarily.

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Speaker 1: Why did you have to say butt and you could

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Speaker 1: just left it at covered?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well covered? Sure, I don't know. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: or bottom I could have said, or booty I could

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Speaker 1: You could have just you know, not gone there. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: That probably wasn't the best analogy. If you want to

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Speaker 1: let's look at Badly. Okay, what do you like?

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Speaker 2: First off, I think it's pretty rare in season to

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Speaker 2: literally worked with this battery of Luke Rhodes and Rico

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Speaker 2: that much different for Spencer Strader and Badgely says, no,

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Speaker 2: not not really at all. So again, that aspect of

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Speaker 2: getting used to said player probably isn't going to be

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Speaker 2: you don't want to put too much stock into that.

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Speaker 2: But still, twenty eighteen, twenty twenty, those guys out with

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Speaker 1: Okay, where are the warts if I have a thirteen

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Speaker 2: Before I get to fifty, I'm just going to start

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Speaker 2: your point, five of thirteen from north to fifty yards

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Speaker 2: been a very bad long distance kicker. So what does

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Speaker 2: that mean? Does that mean Shane Stacking now goes for

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Speaker 2: But you know, again, every kicker's gonna have warts in season.

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Speaker 2: totally forgot about Josh Lambeau for some reason. I remember

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Speaker 2: him making a big kick to beat the Colts one year. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that sounds about right, Jags guy.

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Speaker 1: Right, So eight of them.

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Speaker 2: They also had that thicker kicker I saw from Missouri.

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Speaker 1: Thicker Kicker.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was his nickname, right, Harrison? Do you remember

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Speaker 1: Really mm hmm? Did they bring a Maddox true tree Hill?

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Speaker 1: He was not one of the eight.

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Speaker 2: He was not one of the eight. Again, trio Fo

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Speaker 2: And for them to have brought young Way Coup to

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Speaker 1: Makes sense. We'll see about the long distant stuff. I

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Speaker 2: Maybe now that they're the cares are allowed to massage balls,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a that's a very interesting way of

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Speaker 2: I just hope you don't think like a seventh grader

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Speaker 1: I can certainly do that something else. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: can certainly do that. But you just said massage balls, Kevin.

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Speaker 1: Can't you say massage footballs or the.

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Speaker 2: K balls as they call them, massage caballs. Sure, yeah,

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Speaker 2: maybe I should have been a little bit more descriptive there.

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Speaker 2: you know, a little bit better for longer distances. So

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Speaker 2: he was out there practice today, didn't kick in front

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Speaker 1: But still, is there a possibility here, Kevin where we

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Speaker 2: I think it's as permanent as a as a kicker

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Speaker 1: sign him. That doesn't happen. He goes to Vegas, starts

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Speaker 2: It's a little odd, I must say, you know, Bachi,

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Speaker 2: is a huge, huge topic. So again, this line, I

434
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Speaker 2: think it's fluctuated a little bit more with the Colts

435
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Speaker 2: and I would venture to guess that'll continue assuming Kyler

436
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 2: status remains up in the air. The trade McBride storyline

437
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,200
Speaker 2: is a big one because the Raiders didn't have anything

438
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Speaker 2: at tight end. You know, they were down both bowers

439
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 2: in may or what does a good tight end do

440
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 2: or test? For these Colts linebackers, their defense is extremely

441
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,119
Speaker 2: exotic and you have the big time Philly connections with

442
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Speaker 2: Jonathan Gannon, with Shane Stikeen Nick Rails there. Def it's

443
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Speaker 2: a coordinator someone that Shane holds in high regard. So

444
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 2: that's just kind of a game within the game. We'll

445
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Speaker 2: see how Marvin Harrison Junior plays, and you know, of

446
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Speaker 2: course a building that his dad had some fond memories,

447
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,639
Speaker 2: probably more across the street than anything, but you know

448
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 2: he I think finally kind of got going a little

449
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 2: bit more last week. So you know, Arizona is reeling

450
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Speaker 2: three in a row. Ten am kickoff time, and if

451
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Speaker 2: you can get on them early, what can that do?

452
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 2: Not the most household name defensively, but as you pointed out,

453
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Speaker 2: I think they have been better defensively than they have

454
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Speaker 2: offensively this season. So it'll be Kevin Coogler, Daryl Johnson,

455
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Speaker 2: the Fox crew. We'll see if everyone behaves on Friday

456
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Speaker 2: night here in Indie and Saturday night here in Indie.

457
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Speaker 1: And one o'clock right now, six and a half point spread,

458
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Speaker 1: how would you handle treat mcbriden. Would you go three

459
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Speaker 1: safeties and ask him buying him to Hey, that's your guy,

460
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Speaker 1: go go cover?

461
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Speaker 2: Part of me kind of looks at Nick Cross too.

462
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Speaker 2: I kind of like Nick's physicality a little bit. I

463
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Speaker 2: would look look there, you know, is this something where

464
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Speaker 2: you kind of look at him and say, hey, let's

465
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Speaker 2: do some bracket things and you know, hope that Mooney

466
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Speaker 2: Ward kind of takes care of Marvin Marvin Harrison Junior.

467
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Speaker 2: So I think that will be a big, big storyline

468
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Speaker 2: for this game.

469
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Speaker 1: Another big storyline Kevin will be how many snaps does

470
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Speaker 1: a d Mitchell get versus Ashton Doolan after the professionalism

471
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Speaker 1: that Dulan displayed in that game last week against Vegas

472
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Speaker 1: and quite frankly, the amount of times that they have

473
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Speaker 1: turned to him over the course of the last handful

474
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Speaker 1: of years and in those situations and he's been productive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And to me, I think we touched on this

476
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Speaker 2: a little bit Monday, but I don't see the need

477
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Speaker 2: to carry the punishment for another week.

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Speaker 1: I e.

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Speaker 2: You know, have him whatever be inactive, if Pierce was dressing,

480
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Speaker 2: or you know, banish him to only playing in the

481
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Speaker 2: fourth quarter of a blowout. I'm fine with him sprinkling in,

482
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Speaker 2: you know, a couple of snaps, even in the first half.

483
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Speaker 2: But if you are going to have to rely on

484
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Speaker 2: a third outside wide out, I guess, assuming Pierce can play,

485
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Speaker 2: then I still think it should be doing. That's kind

486
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Speaker 2: of how I view that situation. But Shane was very noncommittal.

487
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 2: Again today he basically gave the same quote that he

488
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Speaker 2: ate last week. So in regards to Adie Mitchell. So

489
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Speaker 2: that's very interesting read into that.

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Speaker 1: Well you will now he was a guest on the

491
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Speaker 1: Morning Show earlier this week, right with you you James

492
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Speaker 1: Boyd and jeff Ricker. Doland was yes, you want to

493
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Speaker 1: get to that. Look at that. I was wondering where

494
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Speaker 1: you're going with that.

495
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Speaker 2: This was our conversation with Ashton Doolan from earlier in

496
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Speaker 2: the week on the Fan Morning Show. Ashton, you strike

497
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Speaker 2: me as ad that doesn't get tired. You just played

498
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Speaker 2: a career high in offensive snaps. Are you extra tired

499
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Speaker 2: this Monday morning?

500
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Speaker 3: No body definitely seeing a little bit. But that's what

501
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 3: I signed up for. You know seven years when you

502
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Speaker 3: said so nothing new, so.

503
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Speaker 2: No thought to go to the old oxygen after the

504
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Speaker 2: kick return. I literally would have been on the bench

505
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Speaker 2: for the next ten minutes and you just run back

506
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Speaker 2: to the offensive.

507
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Speaker 3: Huddle actually fighting because a couple of guys are like,

508
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Speaker 3: you won't get no auction. I was like, man, I

509
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Speaker 3: didn't even think about it. I probably should have figured

510
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Speaker 3: hind insight, but fight next time, aushtin.

511
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Speaker 4: When you look at what your office was able to

512
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Speaker 4: do overall, why do you think this group is clicking

513
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Speaker 4: at a rate that we just haven't seen for a

514
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Speaker 4: team that once had Peyton Manning. I mean you all

515
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 4: scored on six straight possessions, and not just scored, you

516
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Speaker 4: had six straight touchdowns.

517
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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I think it's just testaments, you know, how

518
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 3: prepare everybody is, from you know to the quarterback position,

519
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 3: O line, running back, tight end, receiver. Everybody is locked

520
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,719
Speaker 3: in and doubting what the game plan is and what

521
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Speaker 3: their job is doing every given Sunday. So I think

522
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Speaker 3: when you can click on a high level like that,

523
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Speaker 3: you know, to get the results for getting after.

524
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Speaker 4: The game, Shaan Styken described you as being tough and gritty.

525
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Speaker 1: Would you agree with that assessment?

526
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Speaker 4: And how would you describe just your path from you know,

527
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Speaker 4: Malone which no longer has a football program at that

528
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Speaker 4: you know university, to now being you know, on your

529
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Speaker 4: second contract I believe might have been second or third

530
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Speaker 4: contract in the NFL as an undrafted player.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a fair description. You know, I shout,

532
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 3: I prout myself on you know, doing whatever it is

533
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Speaker 3: a team ask of me and doing a high effort.

534
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 3: So you know that's been doing for seven years now.

535
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Speaker 3: You know, it's been blessed to be a seven years now.

536
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Speaker 3: So I just got seen to do that and just

537
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Speaker 3: stick with it.

538
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Speaker 5: All I know is I want to ask the dueling

539
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Speaker 5: on the radio station more this deep voice on a

540
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Speaker 5: Monday morning. I'm all, I'm all about that, man, I

541
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Speaker 5: dig that. But we also want to know talk us

542
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Speaker 5: through what it's like in the huddle with Daniel Jones

543
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 5: right now, we're all kind of getting to know him

544
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 5: a little bit. You guys get to spend every single

545
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Speaker 5: day with him. Why is he successful here?

546
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Speaker 1: What's going on? And what do you see?

547
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Speaker 3: I mean, he attacks every day the same as far

548
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Speaker 3: as you know. How he prepares and he's in the

549
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 3: building early. He was the last one to leave. I

550
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,479
Speaker 3: might air him out for this, but he might you know,

551
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 3: he might show it to at dinner a couple of

552
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 3: fifteen twenty minutes later because he's breaking down film still

553
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 3: coming from the facilities. So we might give him a

554
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 3: little stuff for that. But now he prepares in the

555
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 3: right way and he comes into work, he leaves the

556
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 3: right way, you know, he leaves by example. You know,

557
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 3: it's a great guy to have in a huddle.

558
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Speaker 2: Ashton when you you know, kind of agreed with you know,

559
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Speaker 2: Shane's assessment of you know, gritty work, ethic, et cetera,

560
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 2: et cetera. What's that rooted in? When was that kind

561
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Speaker 2: of instilled in you from a I assume a younger age.

562
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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. I mean I've been I've been in

563
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Speaker 3: sports since you know, four or five, six years old,

564
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 3: So to compare of nature's there for sure. That's just

565
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 3: something I've always you know, kind of prided myself on.

566
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 3: But you know, to be a part of a team

567
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 3: like this kind of everybody has that that grit in

568
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 3: that grind. So it's it's kind of contagious around the

569
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 3: facility in the billion now when you see somebody else

570
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,360
Speaker 3: doing you kind of want to pick your play up too.

571
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Speaker 3: So just to have that, you know, it's great to

572
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 3: be around.

573
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Speaker 2: If you don't mind, Could you take us back and

574
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 2: I think you've told the story before, but for audience

575
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 2: it hasn't heard it. Could you go back to the

576
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen draft and just you know, I guess did

577
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 2: you think you would get drafted? What was the final

578
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: day like and why Indie as an undrafted free agent.

579
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Speaker 3: I mean, for me, it was the thing I was

580
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 3: get drafted. You know, I was just always just had

581
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 3: to get opportunity to go to the Combine, be the

582
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Speaker 3: first player from you know, from my school to go

583
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 3: to Combine and have a chance to get drafted, and

584
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 3: just to be in the league as a whole. To

585
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 3: be that first guy was you know, was was surreal,

586
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 3: kind of a blessing. But just to you know, just

587
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 3: to get in the building and you know that that

588
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 3: final day, you know, not hearing my name called, but

589
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 3: then immediately after, you know, you're on the phone talking

590
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 3: to teams and kind of deciphering you know, what's the

591
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 3: best fit and you know where to go. And you know,

592
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 3: Indie was always kind of my second home cause kind

593
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 3: of I was born here and my mom's side is

594
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Speaker 3: off from Indy. So it was like, you know, this

595
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 3: is a good choice, you know, the situation with you know,

596
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 3: just to be with her, with Chris and everybody in

597
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 3: there to welcome me with welcome arms, open arms. You know,

598
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 3: they were like, you know, just to come in and

599
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 3: work and you know, earn your spot, and that's that's

600
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 3: that's what happened.

601
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Speaker 2: I totally forgot that you were born here. Where were

602
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: you or what? I guess where are your mom's side

603
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 2: grow up? And how long did you live here?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? So I was born in Elkhart, Indiana. She was

605
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 3: born in Elkhart. I was only there for a couple

606
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 3: of months, you know. But her she she grew up here.

607
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Speaker 3: Her side is off from from Elkhart. And they said

608
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 3: that's the Rby capital of the world. So small little Elkhart.

609
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, they should be given like Ashton doing just r

610
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Speaker 2: v's galore.

611
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Speaker 1: After that, I feel like, you know, we got to

612
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: get your Wikipedia.

613
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,719
Speaker 4: We got to get the Wikipedia page help data Ashton,

614
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 4: because they're lying about you.

615
00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 3: Man.

616
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Speaker 1: It says you're born in Ohio.

617
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Speaker 4: And I feel like after you have a game like

618
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 4: that in a career like you've had, you got to

619
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Speaker 4: get some more respect here on the internet.

620
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 3: That with good TV, you know anybody any way. Wikipedia,

621
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 3: So it's a free game with that, for sure.

622
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go in and and and and change it

623
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Speaker 4: to Ashton doesn't get tired dueling, and you know is

624
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 4: your name? Uh. One thing I do want to get

625
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 4: into and I think I had this conversation with you

626
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 4: a couple of years ago.

627
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: Actually, so, can you.

628
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 4: Describe your football career pre malone, because from what I understand,

629
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Speaker 4: and this was self admitted by you at the time,

630
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Speaker 4: like you weren't always maybe the best student or whatever,

631
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,239
Speaker 4: and didn't play a lot of organized football growing up.

632
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 4: So can you get take us down memory lane a

633
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 4: little bit and also explain what the shift was, what

634
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Speaker 4: your pivot was to taking football more serious and obviously

635
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 4: getting to where.

636
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: You are today.

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00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, I mean so obviously I played throughout a

638
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 3: little league, you know, you know, junior pee wee's in

639
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 3: middle school, junior high starting a eight years old, played

640
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 3: to you know, to I got the high school, and

641
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 3: the problem was my grades my freshman and sophomore year

642
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 3: of the grades, so I couldn't play. I couldn't run

643
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 3: track either, you know, just you know, not focus in

644
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 3: the classroom stuff like that. But then I missed my

645
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 3: freshman sophomore year playing my junior and senior year. Was

646
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Speaker 3: playing free safety my junior year, and then played both

647
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 3: places obviously my senior year, you know, and then had

648
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Speaker 3: a couple of walk ons, preferred walk ons to play

649
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Speaker 3: free safety. I had like four offers for receiver. I

650
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 3: also wanted to run track in college, so for me,

651
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 3: it was like, let's do both alone was the best

652
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,479
Speaker 3: fit for that, and then you know, just you know,

653
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 3: played out from there. You know, got recognized by scouts

654
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 3: and here I am now seven years later.

655
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Speaker 1: That's crazy.

656
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Speaker 4: And from what I understand, Malone is in Canton, Ohio,

657
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Speaker 4: so you're like right next door to the Hall of Fame.

658
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 4: So what was that like, you know, did you ever

659
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 4: think when did it become realistic for you, like I

660
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 4: can probably make it to the NFL, And how much

661
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 4: of it was a reminder of you know, how much

662
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 4: it takes when you got the Hall of Fame, you

663
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 4: know right next door.

664
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we played in the stadium, so just

665
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 3: to player every every Saturday was was kind of dope

666
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 3: for me, just you know, just to know that, you know,

667
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 3: you have an opportunity to go. Is know, as long

668
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 3: as you do what you gotta do, handle your grades,

669
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 3: you don't have me your business on the field and

670
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 3: off the field, you know, and they'll find you. So

671
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 3: for me, my junior, I was like, and I got

672
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 3: a shot, but I always believe, of course I could

673
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 3: make it to the league. And that was always a

674
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 3: goal of mine. But you know, to have it, you know,

675
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 3: kind of come lay out in front of you and

676
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 3: the playing kind of comes comes together and it's like, Okay,

677
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 3: I can really do it this. You know, your teammates

678
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 3: around you are like they get excited too because they

679
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 3: they want a chance too, and they see scouts coming around,

680
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 3: they're like, okay, we know everybody might have a shot,

681
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 3: so you know, just to have that, And then the

682
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 3: locker room was good to see.

683
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Speaker 4: Well, Ashton, just real quick, I want to say, your

684
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 4: clout is already rising. We had a listener already update

685
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Speaker 4: the Wikipedia page to stay born in Elkhart, Indiana.

686
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: So wearing a lot of hats.

687
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Speaker 2: Like yesterday on game day, he was a gunner and

688
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 2: he was covering kicks. He was taking a kick back

689
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 2: of the house unfortunately got called back and two big catches.

690
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 2: Should have had a third, Frank, I thought that other

691
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: one was a catch there on the far sideline. Ashton

692
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: doing with this on the Paylost Stickers hot line. What

693
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: is the new kickoff rule? Like, I'm stressed following it.

694
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: What is that like?

695
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: For It's an entertaining play, but I feel like there's

696
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: a ton of things going on with a new kickoff.

697
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,719
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean it's it's definitely fun. I mean,

698
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 3: you know, we get some more chances to return the ball.

699
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 3: But you know that the kickers are kind of, you know,

700
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 3: getting crazy with these kicks, some of these knuckleball kicks

701
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 3: and the different kind of trick kicks they can do.

702
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 3: It makes still need a little bit more tougher. But

703
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 3: you know, once you can even feel the clean and

704
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,959
Speaker 3: he kind of beat that first level, then you know

705
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 3: you got a shot pretty much almost every kickoff. So

706
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 3: I mean you just got to find the holes and

707
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 3: you know, trust your blocks, and then you know you

708
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 3: got a big play on the rise.

709
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,719
Speaker 2: Biggest thing you've learned from Reggie Wayne since he's been

710
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: your position coach.

711
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 3: Oh man, you know he diagnosedes coverage, you know, probably

712
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 3: burning anybody else. You know, he's going to feel on

713
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 3: stylight sometimes, you know, just yelling at us what the

714
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 3: coverage is, and right before the play you might see

715
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 3: a picture. You know, it changes and he's able to

716
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,959
Speaker 3: He might eat me sometimes we can. Sometimes we can.

717
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 3: You know, he doesn't know that. I don't tell him that,

718
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 3: but when he when he sees it, you know he

719
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Speaker 3: he's yelling on the sideline AAA, cover to cover four whatever,

720
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 3: you know, but just having him there and he makes

721
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 3: you know, makes reading defenses easier, you know, makes you

722
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Speaker 3: comfortable go out there and play and unstrust your abilities.

723
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Speaker 1: Is he a coach that shows his own highlights to you?

724
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 3: Uh, to believe it or not, He's probably only showed

725
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 3: probably on I could probably count one hand. I mean

726
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 3: time he showed me his highlights, probably all of us

727
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 3: as as a whole. He doesn't really brag too much,

728
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 3: but he definitely shows us his He's like when he's

729
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 3: he's you know, breaking down a certain route or something

730
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 3: like that, he'll definitely go back to the archives and

731
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 3: probably's one on one clips to him, just just routing

732
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Speaker 3: somebody up and you know, doing what he does.

733
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Speaker 5: Hey, while we're talking about wide receivers, one of the

734
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Speaker 5: things I really like about this group, And obviously Jonvin

735
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Speaker 5: Taylor is one of, if not the best running back

736
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Speaker 5: in the NFL right now, but running backs in the

737
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 5: NFL don't get yards unless wide receivers, not just offensive

738
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Speaker 5: linemen do their job and make blocks. This group seems

739
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 5: totally bought in on making sure you make your block

740
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 5: and your assignment. What do you guys talk about going

741
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 5: into games when it comes to you just making sure

742
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 5: you steal your EDGs, you take care of the cornerback,

743
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 5: you you help create that whole.

744
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: What's that like for you guys?

745
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 3: Oh man, I mean everybody in the receiver room is

746
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 3: ready to block it till for anybody you know they

747
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 3: have the clichees and a block to get the rock,

748
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 3: so that you know, we're all kind of bought in

749
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 3: on making sure you know our guy doesn't make the tackle,

750
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 3: because if he doesn't make the tackle and then ready

751
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 3: to count as a loss every time doesn't matter if

752
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 3: your guy makes the tackle, whether you you know you

753
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 3: beat him in the first five yards and you had

754
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 3: a good block for that first you know, two seconds

755
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 3: of the play. But if he gets on attack where

756
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 3: he makes the play, you know Reggie count has a loss.

757
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 3: So for us, it's no lecture. Man make the tackle

758
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 3: and let JT go to work.

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Speaker 2: It's a great story, Eddie. I just think it's a

760
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 2: great cult story, and you know, not everything's got to

761
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: be a ring of honor and hall of fame. Although

762
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 2: cand Ohio is in this guy's background, but I think

763
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: he stands for so much you want to be about.

764
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Speaker 2: And you know I said this on Monday. Think about

765
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 2: all the Whiteouts they've drafted. You know, everybody in that room, Eddie.

766
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 2: They drafted googled Downs, Mitchell, Pierce, Pittman, they all drafted

767
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 2: them since Doling. Think about the guys they also drafted,

768
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: Desmond Patman, Mike Strong, Paris Campbell, all them were drafted.

769
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 2: And Dolan's career and yet here he is still doing

770
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: his thing, recovering from an ACL. So I really enjoyed that.

771
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 2: Hope you guys did as well. I think Ashton doing

772
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:27,919
Speaker 2: strikes me. It's just a good dude.

773
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 1: A lot of Twitter questions to get too, starting with Peyton.

774
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 1: After seeing what we've seen through the past five weeks,

775
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: do you think Indiana Jones has done enough to warrant

776
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: trading Anthony Richardson?

777
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 2: You know, I don't really see the need to trade

778
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 2: him in the next month, Eddie. Let me throw this

779
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 2: hypothetical at you. Okay, if Daniel Jones tears ACL tomorrow,

780
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 2: M and you're Chris Bauer, what are you doing? M

781
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 2: Are you calling the Giants for Jameis Winston or are

782
00:35:59,160 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 2: you rolling?

783
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: Mm? That's a that's a loaded question there. Do you

784
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: call about Kirk Cousins We forgot about Kirk. Yeah.

785
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 2: I again, I would not trade Richardson in the next month.

786
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 2: I'd probably go ahead and roll with them. Then you'd

787
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 2: have to get to the end of the year, and then

788
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 2: you're having another combo of like, well, Daniel Jones's injury

789
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 2: history is that, you know, can you imagine that's the

790
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 2: next conversation that we had to have. I just don't

791
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: really see a strong appeal into trading Richardson.

792
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: Right now.

793
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 2: Like, if let's play this out. If you were the

794
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: Giants and Richardson was Russell Wilson, so Jackson Darter starting

795
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 2: Richardson would be the backup in jamis your third stringer,

796
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 2: then I could maybe, like see whatever trading Richardson. But

797
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: that's not the situation here with Riley Leonard.

798
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: So I don't. I'm fine with that. I don't.

799
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: Is trade value really going to change it that much?

800
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 2: In three Again, teams trading for Richardson right now are

801
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 2: not trading for him necessarily to come in and do

802
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 2: what Joe Flaco was doing in CINCI. No, they're thinking

803
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 2: a little bit more bigger picture. So but again, we

804
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 2: already saw a couple of trades and we're still a

805
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 2: month away. I mean it's early November the trade deadline.

806
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:14,919
Speaker 1: Again.

807
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 2: Ballard has never been a big in season trade guy

808
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,959
Speaker 2: at all. Nahim Hines really was a I want out.

809
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 2: I think it's the only in season trade in the

810
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: whole Ballard era.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of wild. He just signed somewhere, didn't he.

812
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chargers, Yeah, going back out there practice squad. Another

813
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: team banged up with the Cults to play here in

814
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks.

815
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, Omar and Hampton going on injured reserve.

816
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 1: So Naji Harris, yeah, so he will miss that game

817
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 1: against the Indianapolis Colts in a couple of weeks. Steve

818
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: is next KB, longtime listener and never missed a show.

819
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: So we thank you so much for your dedication, Steve. Steve,

820
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: even through all the different producers and slash co host,

821
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: slash moderator, slash whatever you want to call us, amen

822
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: of that, that's a true dedicated fan right there. I'm curious.

823
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: This is Steve asking how the Jalen Jones and Jalen

824
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: Carli's injuries are going. What do you think about their

825
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: impact and what it will be if they return fully healthy.

826
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: So again, neither window opened for them this week, even

827
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 2: though they are eligible. I don't get the impression that

828
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 2: this is something that's going to last the entire year

829
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: for them, So that's good news. He I do think

830
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: their returns could happen at some point here this month.

831
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Speaker 2: I think it's worth pointing out, Eddie, neither were very

832
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 2: high on the depth chart pre intory like. I got

833
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 2: the vibe with Jalen carlais like, oh boy, this isn't

834
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 2: looking great for him. Jalen Jones definitely, it wasn't looking great.

835
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 2: Now I would push, but I'm a big Jalen Jones guy.

836
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 2: I would like to see the same. Jalen Jones is

837
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 2: the I think if everyone's healthy right now in the secondary,

838
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Speaker 2: and you know, shout out to Chris A.

839
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Speaker 3: Monts.

840
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 2: I thought he did a nice job the other day.

841
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 2: But I think you roll with Shaveris Ward. Jalen Jones

842
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 2: is the outside guys. We'll see about Mikai Blackman and

843
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 2: then have Kenny there in the slot.

844
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: But can Makai just learn how to stay on two feet?

845
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I know exactly. You know.

846
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: Carlis the main Pratt thing is also you know a

847
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 2: little bit of a kind of wrench and probably his

848
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 2: thought process there. So you know, both of them play

849
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 2: positions of course where you have question marks right now.

850
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 2: But again I didn't get the grand park feel with

851
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 2: either of them. That was that that great before the injury?

852
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: Why do you think it is other than the fact

853
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: they're not lou guys or is that just it?

854
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: I I mean, I hate to act like that's like

855
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 2: I hate to like go down that path.

856
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: But like, because like the tape, if you just watch it,

857
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: Jalen Jones like, hey, I am an NFL quarter Yeah.

858
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 2: I can get like, you know, I know Carla's had

859
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 2: a nice I can get maybe a little bit with carlais.

860
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: But to me, Jalen Jones got a lot of tape,

861
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: especially when you consider the fact, and I always keep

862
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 1: going back to they thought a guy who hadn't played

863
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: in two years or looted at least and Xavian Howard

864
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: was a better option than Jalen Jones and immediately put

865
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: him in the start of line up.

866
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that that's always That's one that will

867
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 2: just scratch my head on that one.

868
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: Mm hm. Turp would like to know, is Ashton Doolan

869
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: the second best behind Tyler Warren? Just pure football player

870
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: on the Colts.

871
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 2: Boy, that's a good one. How do you define that?

872
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 2: How do you define pure football player?

873
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 1: Eddie Garrison?

874
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: That is it EDWARDO on the birth certificate or Eddie

875
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 2: it's Edward Edward idiot?

876
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: How do you define that? Pure football player? I don't know.

877
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: Is the guy that you can always count on to

878
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 1: show up and he's not gonna take any bs, like

879
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: variety of roles during that interview, just talking about, hey,

880
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: just get suck up some oxygen, you'll be good.

881
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 2: If you send me name five football players in the Colts.

882
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: Doolan for sure, Warren for sure. Mean gotta say Quentin Nelson.

883
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 2: I would say Kenny Moore.

884
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 1: The second is that here.

885
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 2: I was gonna go Michael Pittman Jr. Because why that

886
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 2: man don't have any UFC pretty boy on him?

887
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: And there it is. Have I told you that before

888
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 1: a time or two maybe I don't.

889
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 2: Know, part of me thinks like, can this dude go

890
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 2: play on the other side of the football. I think

891
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: that's like maybe the best way I can describe football player,

892
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 2: Like could you go if we're if all of a

893
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 2: sudden we got a ton of injuries, you don't say

894
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 2: Franklin can line up at tight end. If we're the

895
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 2: class one A pioneer, what Tigers can we go out

896
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: there and you play both ways, Zion Franklin will probably

897
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 2: be close to being on that list as well. I mean,

898
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: obviously buck I mean Buckner, Grover, I mean, there's so

899
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: many guys, but I get where you're coming from.

900
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: Turp So my Michael Pittman Jr.

901
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 2: One thousand percent, one thousand Yeah.

902
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: I also one thing to note here. I think I

903
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: would have to go back and look at this. I'm

904
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 1: pretty sure Jermaine Pratt was one of the main guys

905
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: that was a party that Bengals defense that kind of

906
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: helped neutralize Travis Kelsey when Kelsey was his prime. Because

907
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: when you go back and look at those when you

908
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: go back and look at those games of when the

909
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: Bengals were having success compared to unlike most of the

910
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: rest of the teams in the NFL at shutting him down,

911
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: they were the one team that could neutralize him. And

912
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: I think the combination of Jermaine Pratt and shoot, what's

913
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 1: his name, he's in Atlanta now the safety Jesse Bates.

914
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: Jesse Bates the combination of those who were able to

915
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: neutralize Travis Kelsey, and potentially that could be the game

916
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: plan if they can get everyone up to speed on

917
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: Sunday for Tripmick Brown.

918
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: You will see some better tight ends here in the

919
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 2: next month or so.

920
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: That's true. Cameron would like to know what are the

921
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: odds that Chris Ballard makes an end season move for

922
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: an edge rusher or linebacker. Well, we've already seen the

923
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: linebacker now, Cameron, so timely question. Cameron. AD's team looks

924
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: really good but has obvious holes.

925
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'll go back to what I said earlier,

926
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: Cameron about the lack of end season trades with Ballard.

927
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: It's it's kind of wild. You know, eight years as

928
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 2: a GM and we've only seen the Hines one and

929
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 2: the Hins one. I wouldn't call it an outright sell,

930
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 2: but it was more of Nihim Hines wenty out than anything.

931
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: So I feel like in season trades are just harder though,

932
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: because you've had all this camp.

933
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 2: Sure stuff, but again, you were thinking eight years you'd

934
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 2: have more than one.

935
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: That's true. Now has just made their third one in

936
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: franchise history. The second one game last year.

937
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 2: Really from an nd season standpoint, Yeah, yeah, I get

938
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: that they are rarer in the NFL than they are

939
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: in other sports, but still usually see it whatever a

940
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: handful around the league each year.

941
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: You know, obviously.

942
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,919
Speaker 2: You think back to the ball or ten year, they've

943
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 2: really never gotten off to a good start outside of

944
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 2: what twenty nineteen. Again, twenty nineteen you were five and two. Now,

945
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 2: that was the year that you probably felt like, if

946
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: you're going to be real critical of your evaluation, five

947
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 2: and two was a little bit fools gold. Clearly that's

948
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: how it played out. Whereas at this point, to me,

949
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 2: four and one, I mean, go back to what I

950
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: told you a little bit earlier. Ready, of the nine

951
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: teams over the past decade that have started with this

952
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 2: point differential, almost all of them have gone either A

953
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 2: into the playoffs or B won a playoff game, and

954
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 2: three of them went to the Super Bowl.

955
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

956
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 2: So if you believe that, and Ballard is a huge

957
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 2: point differential guy, he believes that is a strong indicator

958
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 2: of how good of a team you are. Does that

959
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 2: lead him to think, Hey, we need to put.

960
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,439
Speaker 1: A few more chips in the middle of the table. Yeah.

961
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 2: Now they traded what a sixth for black men? Right,

962
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 2: so they have everything else in that draft. A Kaile

963
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 2: Blackman was a sixth rounder. So they have the fifth,

964
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,919
Speaker 2: they have the seventh. Obviously they have one, two three four.

965
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 2: I mean, that'd be quite the move to trade one

966
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 2: two three four. But yeah, I I don't know how

967
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 2: many times Ballard. He certainly has not been in this

968
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 2: situation many times in his tenure, right, does he act differently?

969
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: Acted differently in free agency? Yeah. I'm fascinated on the

970
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: edge part of this because it appears that right now

971
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: that LAT two has made significant strikes. You can't admit that,

972
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: but it feels like he's in the Sam Hubbard role

973
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 1: when he when lou was in Cincinnati, because Sam Hubbard

974
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: was another edge guy who has athletic he could drop

975
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: him into coverage like we've seen from time to time

976
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: to Law two. Could you know, he's pretty stout run defender,

977
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: and then you know he could win occasionally in past

978
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 1: rush And it just seems like that's the current role

979
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: that Law two has with lou Anrimo. So they just

980
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: got to find and Taekwon Lewis joined our show with

981
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: Jake Koream Company a couple of weeks ago, and he

982
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: was talking about just like one of the key differences

983
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: between you know, Gus Bradley's system and Low system is

984
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: that there's a lot more gap integrity and a lot

985
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: more gap focus compared to just trying to be disruptive

986
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: like Gus Bradley was. So I'm sure it's the scheme

987
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 1: and just that's the part of it. So that's why

988
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: we don't see the edge rush production that we clamor

989
00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: and hope for.

990
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would like a little bit more from a

991
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 2: pressure standpoint. I think they're bottom ten right now in

992
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 2: pressure rate. I'd like for that. You know, that would

993
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 2: be one of these ones that you definitely look at

994
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 2: and say, all right, can it improve, especially as a

995
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: composition starts to improve.

996
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: Three questions left. Evan is one of those finalists. It's

997
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: clear and obvious now that Shane Styke was never the

998
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: problem people wanted him fired, but his play calling has

999
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: for the most part, always been on point. It's been

1000
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 1: his overall handling of the head coaching duties and decision

1001
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 1: making and accountability that have been questioned, and that still

1002
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: holds true this season. Citing gus last year, the handling

1003
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 1: of the media and the ar benching last year, et cetera.

1004
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: As much as Evan wants, as much as Evan was

1005
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: an Anthony Richardson guy, it's been Ar's lack of consistency

1006
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: and health that held this team back, and Daniel Jones

1007
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 1: has by far been the better quarterback for this team.

1008
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: Do you think Shane Steiking can continue to have this

1009
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: type of a pro or will it eventually get him

1010
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 1: in trouble at some point? Thanks? And have been loving

1011
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: the Pods the last five to six years. Oh, thank you, Evan.

1012
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: That's still a lot of Pods that is not as

1013
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: loyal as Steve though, that's what you're saying. Yeah, but

1014
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: he could get on Steve level.

1015
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 2: He's on the JV mount Rushmore here. In all seriousness,

1016
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 2: thank you very much for a listening.

1017
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.

1018
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: It's hard, Eddie, Like sometimes you get into these you know, Okay,

1019
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: evaluate the head coach, evaluate the GM, who made what decision?

1020
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 2: And it's weird of this operation because one has been

1021
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 2: at it in his ninth year and one's been at

1022
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 2: it in his third year. You know, it's just like, okay,

1023
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 2: where are you at? Like did Styken have more say

1024
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: on an Arumo. Clearly, Stikeen has mentioned that his past

1025
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: history with Lou like I would.

1026
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 1: Think of facing him, right correct, that was.

1027
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: I think that was his higher And then I don't know,

1028
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 2: do you look at Shane's history with you know, Daniel

1029
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 2: Jones in the NFC East, did that kind of push it.

1030
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 2: I don't think there was direct ties with Chris bou

1031
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: you know, you go back to Shane was blown away

1032
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 2: at his college visit.

1033
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: Of course, Alex Tanney was on the Alex Tanney was

1034
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: on the Giants past game coordinator right for the Colts

1035
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: or something like that.

1036
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: Right right, And I was Shane was really blown away

1037
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 2: by Daniel's acumen in the college.

1038
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: Visit that they they did.

1039
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 2: That would have been when he was the Chargers, of course,

1040
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 2: but when they went to Durham to.

1041
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: Visit with them.

1042
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,919
Speaker 2: So, I you know, part of me is like, well,

1043
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 2: you're just you know that you can't just discredit Chris

1044
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 2: Boward like that. You can't just act like he didn't

1045
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 2: have any say m h and clearly Ballad if you

1046
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: want to look at this offseason, you know what did

1047
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 2: change was certainly the free agent philosophy even if you

1048
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 2: want to say, hey, Anna Ruma was more of the

1049
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 2: Stike and higher Jones was whatever more than stikeing background,

1050
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,240
Speaker 2: Cam Biden and Savarious Ward. To me is a clear

1051
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: change in process and that is what unquestionably A was

1052
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 2: needed and be welcomed. And credit to Chris Boward for

1053
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 2: you know, seeing that, I guess and and and.

1054
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:00,479
Speaker 1: Acting upon it there.

1055
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 2: But yeah, and I mean there is part of me

1056
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 2: with like, you know, how much and how quickly, if

1057
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 2: at all, will we see carli Ers Gordon put a.

1058
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: Stamp on things? Mm hmm, good, bad? Indifferent?

1059
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 2: Or is it simply all I care about is what

1060
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: happens on that football field?

1061
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: Or has she already made her stamp on things that

1062
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: we just don't know yet? Right right? I guess I

1063
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: mean a public stamp? Yeah, yeah, I don't. Yeah, behind

1064
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 1: the scenes, you know who knows?

1065
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 2: I obviously when sadly, when free agency happened, her father

1066
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 2: was so alive, right, so like you know, some of

1067
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 2: those mandates potentially likely wouldn't have happened at that point,

1068
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 2: you know, because like when you get the new boss atdie,

1069
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 2: it's like should we all be scared?

1070
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 1: You know, like she doesn't strike me, Kevin as the one,

1071
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: and you would probably know more just because of your

1072
00:49:55,080 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: experience of interacting with her and working alongside her. She

1073
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like one that's going to micro manage a

1074
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: mandate thing. She may be the one that you know

1075
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: is like, hey, I'll let everyone do their job because

1076
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: that's what you guys are being paid to do. That's

1077
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: what I'm paying you to do. I'm paying you to coach,

1078
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: I'm paying you to manage. You got to figure all

1079
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Speaker 1: that stuff out. As long as I am, you know,

1080
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,280
Speaker 1: seeing a product on the field that I enjoy watching,

1081
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: and it's a product that is competitive and that we're

1082
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: winning games and there's a clear sense of direction on

1083
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: where we are going. I'm perfectly fine with where things

1084
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 1: are at.

1085
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 2: Right right, And again, how much of that is like, yes,

1086
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 2: I'm not going to micromanage, but I also am going

1087
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 2: to critically evaluate m M, you know, and just not

1088
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 2: do it in a whatever, in a very demonstrative manner.

1089
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 2: Injury report the DNPS Tyler Goodson Taekwon Lewis illness anymore

1090
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 2: indeed did not practice and then braid.

1091
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Speaker 1: So it's just a rest day.

1092
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 2: So good news there for Brad Smith even though he

1093
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 2: had that's leave on the right leg.

1094
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: Full for Alec Pierce, full for Grover Stewart. So good

1095
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 1: news Grover Sturud. Of course, dealing with the bye bye

1096
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: ups plural.

1097
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 2: I'm always confused by that. Does that mean both arms?

1098
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 2: Do you only have one bicepp?

1099
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: I thought it was one bicep and two biceps.

1100
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 2: Can't say mine or have any definition on them, so

1101
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 2: you might make the argument that I have none.

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00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 1: So last week we had British Jake and just a Jake,

1103
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: and I thought that might have been Jake Querry, the

1104
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: guy I work with. You know, so many questions for

1105
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: whatever the reason. Now we get a JB. Now is

1106
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 1: his teams Boyd a Canadian James Boyd or is this

1107
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: a different JB from Canada.

1108
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 2: James Boyd is passionate, he is dedicated. I really hope

1109
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 2: he's not sending questions the spot that man needs.

1110
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Speaker 1: To rest a little bit. All right, JB from Canada,

1111
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 1: We're coming for the Colts game. Well we welcome you.

1112
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Speaker 1: Have fun, enjoy Indianapolis on JB states, We've done all

1113
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: the touristy things. What's a must do slash see in Indianapolis?

1114
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: Any hidden gyms in the stadium. Where should we go

1115
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: watch the four PM games? Well, Eddie, I might toss

1116
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 1: this back to you. Jim's in the stadium. I mean

1117
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 1: I can't.

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00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 2: I've probably seen six sporting events of my life inside

1119
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 2: of Lucas Oil Stadium, and they are like a Notre

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00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 2: Dame football game, a National championship football games, Eddie, any

1121
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 2: must spots inside of Lucas Oil Stadium.

1122
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: I haven't been there this year yet, so I don't

1123
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: know if they've changed anything. I always liked going over

1124
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: by the main entrance by the Manning statue, uh huh,

1125
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: and walking in that way just because you've got the

1126
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 1: horseshoe there, you got the Lucas soil where the anvilas. Yes, yeah,

1127
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:29,439
Speaker 1: that's where all that stuff's at.

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00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I'm probably and I say this for

1129
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 2: like any stadium. I'm kind of like a if I can,

1130
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 2: then the schedule allows for I like to get in

1131
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 2: there whatever forty five minutes early and just kind of

1132
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 2: walk around, just get a lay of the land, see

1133
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 2: what's in there.

1134
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: You know, looks like it's gonna be an awesome fall

1135
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: day in Indy. Now, in terms of flippery Noodle, where

1136
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: the four PM games. Tom's watch buyer would probably be

1137
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: on the watch bar. You've got a kill Roy's and

1138
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: a Brothers downtown.

1139
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 2: Yardhouse. You've got against slippering noodle. I think is just

1140
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 2: a cool place to kind of definitely see either pre

1141
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 2: or post. You know. As far as other things to do,

1142
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think. We don't have any what college

1143
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 2: football home games? Notre Dame is home, but nothing in

1144
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 2: blooming Center or West off Yette Pacers have a home

1145
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 2: preseason game right a thunder. Yeah, So I think Gamber's

1146
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 2: Shield House is awesome. So I would definitely check that

1147
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 2: out if you're not doing anything else. I don't know

1148
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 2: if there were any other shows or anything going on downtown,

1149
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 2: you know either.

1150
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not up to date.

1151
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to survive.

1152
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: Last question is from a loyal listener flipping, what's your log?

1153
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 2: Miller's the bar? That sounded like Senor Sancho stopped there,

1154
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 2: and you know.

1155
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: I wasn't going to bring that one up. Final question

1156
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: is from Flipping, what's your revised record slash ceiling for

1157
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 1: this team? Kevin?

1158
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 2: That's a good question, you know, Oftentimes I like to

1159
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 2: get at least to the midway point and not like

1160
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 2: bail on my preseason thought.

1161
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 1: What was your preseason thought?

1162
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 2: It was nine and eight, nine wins I had for

1163
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 2: the Colts, which I think, based off some of my colleagues,

1164
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 2: I think I was a little bit more on the

1165
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 2: optimistic side than a few of them.

1166
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: What did I have right now?

1167
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 2: I think I had four and two after this week,

1168
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 2: So when would put them at five and one? Obviously

1169
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 2: they've played football a lot more impressively than I thought

1170
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 2: they would. You know, part of me, outside of just

1171
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 2: the peer win losses, I really feel like there is

1172
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 2: an opportunity for this team to play better, even though

1173
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 2: the schedule I think will be difficult in the second

1174
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 2: half of the season. I'm curious, like, what is this

1175
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 2: confidence going to do for them? Yeah, they've never started

1176
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 2: like this, so again, you can look at it one

1177
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 2: way out. You're reading your press clippings too much, okay?

1178
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: Sure?

1179
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 2: Or does belief lead to more success? And honestly, the

1180
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 2: one that probably believes the most right now is a quarterback,

1181
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 2: and when that position believes and is performing, you can

1182
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 2: do a lot of things here. So I'd probably reset

1183
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 2: the over under so seven a half at the start

1184
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 2: of the year, I went with nine. I would go, boy,

1185
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 2: what would you reset it at Vegas ten and a half?

1186
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: Eleven and a half. So it's funny, Jake and I

1187
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: do almost weekly now where just because of how fickle

1188
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: and week to week the league is. Right, well, dude,

1189
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: the rest of the season colts predictions, and like when

1190
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: we did this on Monday, I had them at twelve

1191
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: and five.

1192
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 2: If you want to twelve, I mean, when you look

1193
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 2: at it and map it out, I certainly hear you out.

1194
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 2: I mean we talked a little bit Mark and I

1195
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 2: on Monday. They'll probably be an underdog next week, but

1196
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 2: like you can make the case they're not another like

1197
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 2: legit underdog until Kansas City.

1198
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: I mean, there's still even a chance they may not

1199
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 1: even be an underdog next week, depending on how how

1200
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 1: banged up Chargers are and how they look this week.

1201
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 1: Not mistaken. I think the Chargers have Miami.

1202
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 2: You want to talk about a long trip home after

1203
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 2: that one there, I'll go eleven. You're going twelve, I'll

1204
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 2: go eleven. If you're setting the over under, I think

1205
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,479
Speaker 2: the eleven and a half would be appropriate. Yeah, yeah, gosh,

1206
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 2: which is a big number.

1207
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:07,919
Speaker 1: Man, yeah.

1208
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 2: I mean, you look at it, there's not a lot

1209
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 2: of NFL teams that are, even with the seventeen game schedule,

1210
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 2: that are reaching that point.

1211
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: And you know Jacksonville.

1212
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 2: I mean, gosh, man, I I the factor four and

1213
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 2: one is kind of wild. Like, if the Colts lose

1214
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 2: Sunday and Jacksonville wins. As great as the Colt season

1215
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 2: has been so far, they be second on the AFC South,

1216
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,720
Speaker 2: they'll have lost the AGEC South again. But the season

1217
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 2: that did it, which is crazy to think with how

1218
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 2: well they've played now, I think Jacksonville's more fools gold

1219
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 2: though if you look at it right now, they're forcing

1220
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 2: a million.

1221
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: Turnover fourteen turnovers leading the league. That can't continue.

1222
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 2: It can't, but hey, credit to them for Monday Night.

1223
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 2: I was a wild one, and I get there was.

1224
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 2: That was one of the more entertaining games I've seen here.

1225
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: Prediction time Kevin.

1226
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 2: Twenty three sixteen Colts and frankly, if Kyler Murray doesn't play,

1227
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 2: it'll be bigger than that.

1228
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: I think it's still like twenty six thirteen with or

1229
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: without him. With him without him, it's like ten no

1230
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: love for Jacoby and maybe I'm I mean of course

1231
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: that's me giving them a touchdown they didn't get one

1232
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: to getting Raiders. Raiders didn't give them one. Arizona was

1233
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: better than the Raiders, right, I mean without I mean

1234
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: the Raiders were, to be fair, the Raiders were over

1235
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: four in the red zone.

1236
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 2: I don't mean that's kind of and an omly on that.

1237
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 2: But nonetheless both of us think Colts over Cardinals in

1238
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 2: Week six, Eddie Garrison enjoy Vak. We'll talk to you

1239
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 2: on Monday recapping Colts and Cardinals