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The program The 10 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: State House Happening is you'r weekly look at what's going 11 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 2: on with Indiana politics and government. Before we begin the program, 12 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: let's meet the award winning panel. You know him from 13 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,959 Speaker 2: thirty years in the Indiana Senate, the Great Jim Marrett. Hello, 14 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: Robert all right, and you know him as the owner 15 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: operator ofm inndipolitics dot org. Dull keep Shabaz Hello, good morning. Okay, 16 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 2: So first of all, once again we find ourselves with 17 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 2: our fabulous friends here at ninety eight nine WYRZ who 18 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 2: are allowing us to use their studio to put together 19 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: this program today. So we thank them for allowing us 20 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: to do that. All right, So, Merritt, you were in 21 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: the Indiana Senate for thirty years. Did you ever think 22 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: that the President of the United States would be endorsing 23 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: not one, not two, but now multiple people. I've lost 24 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: track of how many it is in Indiana Senate primaries. 25 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 3: I know, I could never have I could never have 26 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 3: even predicted much less except the fact that he would 27 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 3: do something like that, a president United States would come 28 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 3: into Indiana and start endorsing primary challenges and you know, 29 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 3: and and correct me if I'm wrong, But the only 30 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 3: really person who's really succeeded with an endorsement from Donald 31 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 3: Trump is Mike Braun. Mike Braun, the endorsement from President 32 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 3: Trump was really something that motored that gave fuel to 33 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 3: the Braun airplane to win the nomination for governor and 34 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: did work. 35 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 4: For Julie Maguire. 36 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 3: Well that's it. 37 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, put that mic up a little bit. 38 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, and yeah, and so it endorsements transferring your 39 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 3: your ability to bring people out and win an election 40 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 3: is so very difficult and uh, and that really gave 41 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 3: Braun a great start to his campaign. But I just 42 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 3: don't think it's going to work in the General Assembly 43 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 3: this year. 44 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 4: I agree with you. You're absolutely right, my friend. 45 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 2: Well, well that was a riveting spec let's sort of 46 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: reset for by what's going on here. So Donald Trump 47 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: is mad because the Republicans voted against redistricting in the Senate. 48 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: There were twenty I mean, the majority of the guts 49 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 2: voted against it. They tried to act like it's like 50 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: two or three rogue actors. It was the majority of Republicans, 51 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 2: by the way. Now this is subject to other courts 52 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: looking at this, but as of this morning, a court 53 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 2: in Virginia struck down Virginia's attempt to read district Why 54 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: because he said, the judge said they didn't follow the law, 55 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 2: which was one of the issues with Indiana's redistricting. So 56 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: for all these people who were just losing their mind, 57 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: Oh Indiana game in and Virginia's good to this and that, 58 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 2: well judge said, at least for now, no, they're not 59 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: going to get this. 60 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 4: And even the funnier part about that was monitoring the 61 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 4: social media insane monkey chatter as I call it, this 62 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 4: go throw political feces against the wall for a bunch 63 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 4: of hapless primates. When Virginia did their redistricting. People are 64 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 4: kind of pointed Robe rod Ray, Look you screwed us 65 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 4: Virgin's redistricting. They're gonna have more coracial seats. And look 66 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 4: what happened. 67 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: Yeah right now? 68 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, well and then at somebody people were blaming me 69 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: and I was like, I didn't have a vote in 70 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: any of this. Like, so Trump's mad. Some of these 71 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: senators Spencer Deary from Lafayette area, Ron Alting, also the 72 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 2: Lafayette area, Greg Walker, Jim Buck, Jim Buck, who's the Holdman, 73 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: Travis Holdman. There's a litany of these people that Trump 74 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: has endorsed their opponents. And in one case, the one 75 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: guy wasn't even running yet, hadn't even decided to run. 76 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Travis Holman race. 77 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. And I don't know if the guy has filed 78 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: or not. I said this last night. So Paula Copenhager 79 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: is the lady running against Spencer Deary. Yes, And she 80 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 2: posted that now she was. She used to work for Rokeeda, 81 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: I think, and now she works for Micah Beck with 82 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 2: nice person. But she posts this, you know thing about 83 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 2: Trump's endorsement, and I just I asked her, I said, Paula, 84 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: if you walked in front and because if you're gonna 85 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 2: put on social media, I'm gonna respond to you on 86 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: social media. Yea, I said, question, Paula, if Donald Trump, 87 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: if you walked in front of Donald Trump right now, 88 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: would he have any idea who you are? And of 89 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 2: course she didn't want any part of answering. You know, 90 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: she gives some long winded thing where she doesn't want 91 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 2: to address that. Well, right, and the answer is no, 92 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: of course not. He has no idea who you are. 93 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 2: He doesn't like you, he doesn't know you, he has 94 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 2: no idea anything about you. This is some vengeful endorsement 95 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: related to somebody not getting his way. So if you're 96 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 2: gonna tout this, oh look the president endorse me. No, 97 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 2: he he just is mad. He doesn't care at all 98 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: about Indiana. He's mad he didn't get his way. And 99 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 2: I'll turn over to Jim versuon the you abduel. If 100 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: he loses these races, especially after he lost the lieutenant 101 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 2: governors the race, how bad is that gonna look for Trump? 102 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 3: Well, it's it's it's not going to happen, and and 103 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 3: not gonna happen since they're not gonna win, He's not 104 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 3: going to be successful in any of these candidates. Dearry 105 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 3: is not exactly a veteran. He's relatively new to the 106 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 3: caucus and to politics, if you will. But alting and 107 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 3: and the rest and Buck and all they are they 108 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 3: are well positioned to win their primary challenge, and and 109 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 3: and and be back in twenty twenty seven. I think 110 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 3: that uh absently idea that Trump comes to Indiana and 111 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 3: brings these people up on stage, and the Trump political 112 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 3: machine is going to be out. They sit out in 113 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 3: the next forty weeks or so campaigning for the twenty 114 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 3: six campaign elections, and they're going to concentrate on seats 115 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 3: that they need desperately to keep and win because it's 116 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 3: very very close in Washington with the delegation or the 117 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 3: Congression r versus d and they're going to be concentrating 118 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 3: on the on the races they absolutely have to have 119 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 3: to win. 120 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 4: Agri Harley. And the other thing too is let's say 121 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 4: we have a center Republican primary challenge. It's no establishment 122 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 4: candidate versus Trump candidate. To beat in a company, you 123 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 4: gotta do two things. Number One, tell people why the 124 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 4: incumbany is bad. Number Two, why you are good? And 125 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 4: what is their argument. They voted against redistructinge that's it. 126 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: Which most people work gets exactly well. 127 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 4: In other words, I want you to throw off this 128 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 4: guy who did what you wanted him to do. 129 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 2: And this and this is the I was talking about 130 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 2: this yesterday on a Facebook live video. I said, these 131 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 2: people are hanging their hats on this thing there. I mean, 132 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 2: it's a fool's Errand there's so many things you could 133 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: be talking about that people actually care about where these 134 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: senators could be vulnerable. The property taxes, the utility bills, 135 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: the ied C, like all of these things where if 136 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: you knock out of his door, they would go, oh yeah, 137 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: I'm getting screwed on that. Most people, outside of the 138 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 2: twenty five or thirty percent hardcore people, they don't care 139 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: all about redistricting. 140 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 3: When I had, I believe, I had four primary challenges 141 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 3: in thirty years and I want them all and I 142 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 3: want them all. And the reason why I won, I 143 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 3: believe is I went directly to a voter who was 144 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: going to come out and vote in a primary. I 145 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 3: was prepared, we had pulled, we had I just had 146 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 3: lots of experience behind me. And like I said last week, 147 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 3: it is very hard to run for a seat in 148 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 3: the Indiana and General Assembly. And we've got all sorts 149 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: of things and money. Uh, none of these, none of 150 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 3: these candidates, Paula included, had any money behind them whatsoever 151 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 3: when they announced, and and uh when they announced. That's 152 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 3: that's one of the biggest parts of a primary is 153 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 3: to really show, uh, you've got some momentum. And none 154 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 3: of them have momentum. Now now Braun may come across. 155 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 3: He's got money in different campaign accounts, and and you 156 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: know Trump has money as well. But uh, you know, 157 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 3: they should have really, they should have made a big 158 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 3: show of when they announced, when they filed, because there 159 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 3: are very few places now with the limited media we 160 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 3: have and we are the media, and and and they 161 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 3: have very little, limited opportunities to make a splash, and 162 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 3: they missed it. 163 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 4: And the other part of this too is think about this. 164 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 4: You had all these primary challengers and we got a 165 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 4: Trump endorsement. Okay, fine, but you got any money, got 166 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 4: any people go knocking on a door? Because I remember, Jim, 167 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 4: I was one of your primaries. We actually invited me 168 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 4: to go walk door to door yes with you? 169 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and and and and I think you can 170 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 3: a lot of people just kind of slam the door 171 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 3: in your face and everything. But there were people that 172 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 3: knew my record and uh felt good about it. And 173 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 3: and those primaries. You know a lot of times when 174 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 3: you're a stun at candidate, uh incumbent, and somebody wants 175 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 3: to run against you, and in a primary situation, you know, 176 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 3: first of all, you're kind of heartsick because you have 177 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 3: to work really hard to demonstrate that that conservative who 178 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 3: don't really vote in primary campaigns will come out and vote. 179 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 3: And and that's the whole key here is is the 180 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 3: mag of voter. Is it a conservative or is it 181 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 3: a progressive or is it somewhere in between? And uh, 182 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 3: and and for that primary challenger to pick and choose, 183 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 3: getting that voter out on in May is very very difficult. Exactly. 184 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 2: Other thing that's frust a well, I don't care because 185 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 2: the public and just lie to people anyway, So it 186 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. But 187 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: it is frustrating to say, Okay, you're wasting all of 188 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 2: this time on these senate primaries, or if you just 189 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 2: put that money and those efforts into the first congressional district, 190 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 2: you might win the district, which was the goal anyway, Like, 191 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 2: here's an idea, win by governing, win by campaigning. Go 192 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 2: up there. You're not gonna get Marion County, but you're 193 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 2: not gonna get Married County because you guys drew Marion 194 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 2: County to be ungettable. The Republicans drew it to be ungettable. 195 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 2: So it's the hypocrisy of these people who have created 196 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 2: these districts to save Victoria Sparts a couple of years 197 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 2: ago because she's a complete nutbag. And then instead of 198 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: going up to the first and working your butts off 199 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 2: and doing what you can to win that district, they're 200 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: wasting all this time. Now, look, you know me, I 201 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: loathe all these people pretty much in the General Assembly, 202 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 2: So no tears for me if they go down. I'm 203 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 2: not invested in saving these guys. But it's just another 204 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 2: example of how the Republican Party, instead of governing effectively, 205 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 2: is just distract, distract, distract, distract, distract. 206 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 4: Well, I don't think it's Republican Party per se. I 207 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 4: think it's more And I wrote about this over the weekend. 208 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 4: It's a civil war. It's literally what it is now, 209 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 4: whether it's Captain America versus iron Man or you know 210 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 4: Grand versus Lee. No, you picked the Civil War, you 211 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 4: know of your choice. But in the NHL, that's what 212 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 4: it is. 213 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 2: Well, one of these guys is a great good I think, 214 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 2: claims the woman who's running against Tim, who you wrote about. 215 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: It's got some message from her saying vote against redistricting. 216 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 3: Yes. 217 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 2: I mean he tweeted that out. 218 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, And that was a really good offering of 219 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 3: by Indie politics. I couldn't believe it. In the picture. 220 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 3: I didn't know who this woman was that you would publish. 221 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 4: But anybody else, They look like they had been dating, 222 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 4: look look like a good friends. Hey, Greg, doing a great job. Yes, 223 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 4: keep fighting the good fight. Right, And then she writes 224 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 4: a response to Greg like I didn't saying against this. 225 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 4: I said, like it doesn't matter. 226 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 3: And you know, right now, I would imagine it's not 227 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 3: gonna be It's gonna be three degrees outside this weekend. 228 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:06,119 Speaker 3: Greg Good will be going door to door this weekend. Yeah. 229 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 2: Rob Kendall, Jim Merrett, Abdula, keep shabaz. The program of 230 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 2: Stateles Happening is a weekly look at what's going on 231 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 2: with Indiana politics and government. Real quick, as we wrap 232 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: this up, any of these challengers that can win. I 233 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: mean we're talking the big ones that the guys at 234 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: the rank. It's alting. 235 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 4: And I would argue anything in politics, anything can happen, 236 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 4: But there's difference between probability and possibility. Now, is it 237 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 4: possible I could look under this table and find a 238 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 4: million dollars? 239 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? 240 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 4: Is it probable? 241 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 3: Not very likely? 242 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 4: Was why I think anything, anything can happen. We've seen 243 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 4: it happen in politics before. But I would say, right now, 244 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 4: absence some major scandal, live boy, dead girl, stealing money, 245 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 4: not paying your property tax bill, good luck. 246 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 3: The center Republican Caucus, their sentiment Jeority Campaign Committee, and 247 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 3: Center Bray President of the Senate have a million dollars 248 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 3: and they're going to spend it in every district that 249 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 3: that there's an incumbent that's in trouble. And I don't 250 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 3: believe they're in trouble. And when when the Senator buck 251 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 3: was was looking to retire, he looked at who might 252 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 3: succeed him, and he decided that he would do a 253 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 3: very much, very a better job next four years. 254 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 2: I will succeed me. 255 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 256 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 3: Yes, And they're all going to win going away. And 257 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 3: in the legislature probably will have or excuse me, the 258 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 3: Senate probably will have just nine Democrats when it comes 259 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 3: to instead of ten when it comes to twenty twenty seven. 260 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 3: And real quick, you go run for that open seat. 261 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 3: You know, I've thought a lot about it, and real quick. 262 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 2: So let's set this up right. So JD. Ford is 263 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 2: the Senator Carmel's part of the district is. 264 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 3: It Hinesvilleville Wes Carmel. 265 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 2: And he and he's a Democrat, right, he's leaving, which 266 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 2: means seats open. Yes, you were the senator for years 267 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: from northern part of Indianapolis, nor Fishers I think was. 268 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 3: In your district. 269 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 2: But now you have joined the evil evil, the Triangle 270 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: of Terror. You're a Carmel resident now exactly, and so 271 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 2: are you. There's a room where you're going to run, 272 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: You go run. 273 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 3: I've got to look really, really seriously at it. I 274 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 3: believe that you know, we we spend a long time 275 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 3: on property taxes, and I really believe that energy is 276 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 3: the issue of our time. In fair and fair rates 277 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 3: for people that are are are struggling and not struggling. 278 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 3: We need to make sure that that economic development continues 279 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 3: in Indiana. So those are the issues of our day 280 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 3: and and and it would be silly not to look 281 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 3: at it, because uh, I've got a lot of experience 282 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 3: and and getting back into the Senate and offering my 283 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 3: leadership is something that I need to consider deeply. 284 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 2: How about you? You're gonna leave me too? 285 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: No? 286 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 3: You? And John Rutgle's house both, Yeah, yeah, that's exactly right. 287 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 3: And Ronnie Ford, who who is quite a young lady 288 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 3: running for the Republican nomination. 289 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 2: You gotta do it'd be the best thing for the show. 290 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 3: You gotta do it. 291 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 4: Merret Yeah, Rob, anybody but Demetrius Hicks, that idiot. 292 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: One of the most incredible journeys I've witnessed is seeing 293 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: people with intellectual and developmental disabilities, including autism, get the 294 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: care they deserve. It's life changing. 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Joe Hawk 304 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 2: said in about all these no bid contracts he's given out. Now, 305 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 2: this is of note because a lot of these no 306 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 2: bid contracts went to people who were very influential in 307 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 2: city Hall. You had like five million dollars since twenty 308 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 2: twenty going to you know, a selected group of people 309 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 2: that's on top of no bid contracts related to the 310 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 2: old I believe it's this city County building. And look, 311 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: this is a horrible look for a guy who ran 312 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: on cleaning up city Hall after Ballard had an issue 313 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 2: with this, and especially when these no big contracts are 314 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 2: going to power former power players of his administration. 315 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 4: I will I'm gonna take a little bit of different 316 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 4: approach on this, which will surprise you all. Oh, I'm 317 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 4: firm believe rock of the political culture that says, all 318 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 4: things being equal, you hire your friends. Yeah, I'm a 319 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 4: firm believer in that, because number one, your friends hopefully 320 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 4: won't screw things up right, and number two, they realize 321 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 4: that they screw things up. It makes you look bad. 322 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 4: But but the thing is, all things have to be equal. 323 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 4: That's right, all things have to be equal. All things 324 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 4: been equal, you hire your friends. Now. I will say 325 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 4: this for the hawkshead folks. It doesn't help when you 326 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 4: just came out of this one big scandal that's promised 327 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 4: a clean up government, gonna be the most ethical government 328 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 4: in the entire universe. 329 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah. 330 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 4: It doesn't help. 331 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Indy starting mirror and Mirror indian fabulous reporting 332 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 2: on this by the way, for anybody who wants to 333 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 2: read what we're talking about here. 334 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, back in nineteen seventy nine, I was 335 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 3: Mayor hud Nuts intern and there was a rumor that 336 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 3: came to the Mayor's office that that, uh, we had 337 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 3: we had hundreds of vacant lots in the city of Indianapolis, 338 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 3: and the city had contracted with numerous friends of the 339 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 3: mayor that we're in charge of cutting the grass on 340 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 3: the on the vacant lots. Well, Mayor hudd Nuts sent 341 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 3: me out to inspect all all the two hundred and 342 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 3: fifty lots. That set you out at eight years old, 343 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 3: to go inspect God. And I went out looked at 344 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 3: them all and none of them, none of the grass. 345 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 3: The grass had not been cut for a long time 346 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 3: on all these lots. And I took pictures, I recorded it, 347 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 3: and uh and so and then Hudnut goes in front 348 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 3: of the media and uh and they said, well, our 349 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 3: head's going to roll. Heads will heads did roll because 350 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 3: because hud nutt knew that your friends were not helping you. 351 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 3: My point here is people, uh, constituents, people at the 352 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 3: Indianapolis want fairness and uh and but I don't believe 353 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 3: hogs that mayor hogs it has the cojones to look 354 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 3: into this and uh and and extract the people that 355 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 3: are are Really it's a corrupt system that he needs 356 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 3: to cut out. 357 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 2: So what we're talking about here before we keep going 358 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 2: on this, essentially there should be in most cases, whether 359 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 2: it's a road contract or we need a you know, 360 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 2: a consultant for whatever. Hey, here's the scope of the 361 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 2: work we need you advertise it in the paper record 362 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 2: or posting requirement, legal requirements. And then whoever it is, 363 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 2: the vendors, et cetera, send bids in. You then open those, 364 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 2: you present them to the public, and then you decide 365 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: you're going to use now to your point, and I've 366 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 2: done this as an elected official, and we talked about 367 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,479 Speaker 2: this yesterday. Somebody may not be the cheapest, and you 368 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 2: still use them because you know the work they're going 369 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,959 Speaker 2: to do. Like if you have a road project and 370 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 2: you've spent ten years dealing with the construction company. They're 371 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 2: always on time and they do great work and you're 372 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: not gonna end up in court with them if they're 373 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 2: you know, I'm making up numbers here, but twenty thousand 374 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 2: dollars higher, you're still probably gonna pick them because it'll 375 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 2: save you in the long run. 376 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 4: And by the way, it's not lowest, but it's most responsible. 377 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 2: Bit Well, that's what i'm saying, right right, So that's 378 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I'm not saying you have to pick 379 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 2: the lowest person. But when you're not even bidding this 380 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 2: out in the public has no idea could somebody else 381 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 2: do this same quality of work for cheaper? Look, it 382 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 2: looks very bad. 383 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 4: It's a difference between having White Castle Katie your event 384 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 4: versus mcormick, and you spend Kady your event versus Hyde 385 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 4: Park Steakhouse, Kita your Yeah, you're right event white House 386 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 4: is white House is the cheapest, but you get white 387 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 4: Castle right issues. 388 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and are the lots being cut? I mean they're 389 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 3: doing the job the job that they were they were 390 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 3: contracted to do. And is equality work? And kudos in 391 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 3: the Indie Star. We don't have enough media investigations. Abdulla's 392 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 3: you and and maybe Indie Reporter and and and Napole Chronicle. Yeah. 393 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: Nick, Well, I was working on one before I was 394 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 2: told not to come back to work. That was pretty big. 395 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 3: Well, the bottom line here is where we're going to 396 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 3: get the best of the quality service. And and uh 397 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 3: if if it's a low bid or no a no bid, uh, 398 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 3: it just has to be outstanding quality. 399 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, Rob Kendall, Abdull keeps you boys. Jim Merrick programs 400 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 2: Tale's happening? Speak of which is he running again? Because 401 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 2: you got vop Osaly Osily who's running. You've got Andrea 402 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 2: Hundley who she formally announced, Yeah yet, but she's. 403 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 3: Running, but her not running for the Senate tells us yeah. 404 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, she announce last Friday when she said she wasn't 405 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 4: gonna run for the re election of the US and 406 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 4: the state Senate. 407 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 2: And so is hawk set gonna run again? 408 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 4: Here's my theory. And I had this conversation uh Friday 409 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 4: night at an event and actually running a vap ostly 410 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 4: at the at the event, we had a good hat. 411 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 4: My thing was, if hawk Seat says he's not gonna 412 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 4: run again, he becomes officially a lame flamed up right, 413 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 4: which means you can't it's gonna be hard to raise money, 414 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,479 Speaker 4: you know, hard to do whatever this needs to do. 415 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 4: By keeping his powder dry, that only can hawks that 416 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 4: continue to raise money. He can also and thing is 417 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 4: why is he raising money? 418 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 3: Easy? 419 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 4: He's raising money so he can be a major player 420 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 4: in Indiana democratic politics, whether it's no state officials, county officials, 421 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 4: you name it. He's got the he'll have the money. 422 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 4: I kind of like Evan buy Yeah. 423 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, guys, right now, so that he's 424 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 3: not going to give it to the nominee. He's going 425 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 3: to keep it, yeah. 426 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 4: And use it and use it as as a bargainingship, 427 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 4: like hey, you need money in your accouncil raise, here's 428 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 4: ten thousand dollars. 429 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 3: So you don't think he's running again? No, yeah, you 430 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 3: I don't believe he's gonna run again. I think that 431 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 3: we would know that right now. I think the campaigns 432 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 3: have gotten going and he's given the nod to all 433 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 3: these candidates that he he isn't going to run because 434 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 3: I don't think would be running in the center Hunley 435 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 3: being not possibly running if they knew the mayor was 436 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 3: going to be on, they just I just don't think 437 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 3: they would be there. 438 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 4: I think they would in the sense I. 439 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 3: Think they would challenge the. 440 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 4: Challenging comment because number one, all the sexual harassment stuff 441 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 4: that we had to deal with. 442 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 3: All right, but they're going to split the vote, I mean. 443 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 2: I mean ironically though. The biggest thing that we'll never 444 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 2: know where he was during the riots. Now he's going 445 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 2: to just skate out of that. For some reason, the 446 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 2: media just let him disappear. 447 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was unbelievable. 448 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 2: Jefferson Shreeve just let him disappear and we'll never go 449 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 2: find out where where Joe Hawk said was the riots. 450 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 2: That's simply unbelievable. All right, About five minutes left. Other 451 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 2: big announcement yesterday Wednesdays we're putting this together on the 452 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 2: on the podcast, Ryan Meers announced he is running for 453 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 2: Marrion Kenny prosecutor again, there was a big thought that 454 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 2: he was going to run for mayor of Indianapolis. He 455 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: has decided not. Why put the on there? Really she 456 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 2: told him to Well, look, I mean the Mary County 457 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: prosecutor thing is basically a sure deal. The Republicans are 458 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 2: totally in neptin Marion County. I don't see nobody challenging him. 459 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 2: So if you want to just keep a safe job 460 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 2: and keep your powder dry, that's the job for you 461 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 2: right now. Now. 462 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 4: I did hear Republicans pouths had two candidates, one male, 463 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 4: one female. I'm trying to forget the full scoop. I'm okay, 464 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 4: are they going to do it? Or are they not 465 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 4: going to do it? But I heard they did have 466 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 4: a couple of candidates. 467 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 2: And because he's up this year, right, yeah, the mayor's 468 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: races next year, the prosecutor's race is this year. 469 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, he'd have to You know, if if Mirrors was 470 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 3: going to run for mayor, it sounds like the wife 471 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 3: says no, that he'd have to win in twenty seven 472 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 3: or twenty six and then win again in twenty seven. 473 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 3: Could Yeah, that's that's a lot to ask with a 474 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 3: with a primary. Uh. You know, it sounds like it's 475 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 3: getting starting to get a little crowded, but we know 476 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 3: it's a it's a Democrat county and uh and he's 477 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 3: going to win overwhelmingly. Uh and uh and he'll be 478 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 3: there for as long as he wants to be. 479 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 2: Did anybody say the press conversation you did you go 480 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 2: to his press conference? 481 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? 482 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 2: No, I don't think anybody asked him. And this is wild. 483 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 2: I don't even know how many people are there because 484 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 2: of the weather. But have we gotten any updates on 485 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 2: either the Micah beckw grand jury or the grandjurary that's 486 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 2: believed to be looking into Thomas Carl Cook? Have we 487 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 2: gotten any updates on that? 488 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 4: I want to say there was a story in the newspaper 489 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 4: this morning where they talked about uh Beckworth and uh 490 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 4: Thomas Cook and but Meers didn't really say anything like, hey, 491 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 4: it's still ongoing. We don't talk about pending investigations, blah 492 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 4: blah blah blah. 493 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 2: So they so they don't. I mean, this is wild 494 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 2: to me that it's the at least with the Beckwith thing, 495 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 2: it's been going on that long and nobody. 496 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 4: Not necessarily because when you when you put a case together, 497 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 4: and particularly somebody's high profile and as controversial as Micah 498 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 4: beckw With is and as also has the megaphone that 499 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 4: Micah Beckwood does. Go to make sure all your eyes 500 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 4: dotted and all your tea's cross. So, whether it's beck With, 501 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 4: whether it's Morales, whether as Thomas Cook, when you when 502 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 4: you're going after high profile people, you want to make 503 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 4: sure you got all your eyes down and all your 504 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 4: tea scross. So when you drop the whatever you may drop. 505 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 4: Because by the way, there's what what they what they 506 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 4: may or may do. Uh, it's basically like, hey, here's 507 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 4: a grand jury, here's the indictment of whomever, right, and 508 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 4: this is this is any high profile it could be 509 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 4: no indictment exactly. 510 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. And you know he also has to worry about credibility. 511 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 3: It's an election year for the secretary of State now, Uh, 512 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 3: diego Morales. And and I would think that obviously people 513 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 3: can't dispute this, but I would think that you if 514 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 3: you're going to have some sort of grand jury, uh 515 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 3: indictment if you will, has to happen relatively soon or 516 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 3: next year in twenty seven, because if if you drop 517 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 3: it sometime in August or September or October, you're really 518 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 3: looking at the fairness issue will come up and somebody 519 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 3: on the ballot. Uh. We disagree on if he's going 520 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 3: to get the nomination and if he's gonna win at 521 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 3: being Diego Morales, but I truly think he comes out 522 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 3: of the convention and actually wins in November. So mirrors 523 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 3: has got to be a little political. 524 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 2: Real quick. We got about a minute left Speking of 525 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 2: Diego Morales. So this photo pops up of him supposedly 526 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 2: shoveling snow, and then some astute people on the internet 527 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 2: pointed out, dude, it looks like those are snowblower tracks 528 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 2: under you. And then somebody else pointed out, the guy 529 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,479 Speaker 2: ain't even taken the tag off the snow shovel. 530 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 3: He's used it. 531 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 2: The lines, by the way, are perfectly cut, like as 532 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 2: someone who hands shoveled a big part of his driveway 533 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 2: the other day. I know it ain't even the lines 534 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 2: are perfectly even. He's holding a shovel in the manner 535 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 2: that I've never seen another human yeah hold a shovel before, 536 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 2: And it's just like everything that the minute lefter, everything 537 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 2: with this guy is just one your raid clown show 538 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 2: bs after another, including even shoveling. 539 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 4: We at least I didn't stay on tiptoe, he didn't 540 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 4: have his hiding boots. 541 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 2: I mean, it's ridiculous. 542 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 3: It is ridiculous, and and uh he can't really right now. 543 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 3: There are not a whole lot of things he's done 544 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 3: right And uh with the media, the caricature of of 545 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 3: the normal Hoosier, No, no, no number one of the 546 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 3: normal Hoosier doesn't know who Diego is, that's right. Yeah. 547 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 3: And outside the bubble that we sit in up in 548 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 3: Lagrange County or over in Wayne County or you know, Vanderberg, 549 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 3: they they they they know the Republicans and they will 550 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 3: vote in November. And uh, they're not convention goers nor delegates. 551 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 3: And so that's what he has to rely upon, is 552 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 3: all these these goofs. Uh it's a lot like Jennifer 553 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:57,239 Speaker 3: Ruth Green ye up in Gary in northwest Indiana. Uh, 554 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 3: people really don't know what happened in Indianapolis. And and 555 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 3: those people in Indianapolis are making a big deal out 556 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 3: of nothing. And if the Republicans, like we said earlier, 557 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 3: put money towards the first district Congressional District she has 558 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 3: a fighter's chance, and Frank Mervan has been a you know, 559 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 3: it's a beloved person up in northwest Indiana. So it 560 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 3: remains to be seen if Jennifer Ruth Green can win 561 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 3: that seat. 562 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 2: All right, that's gonna do a press this week. Jim 563 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 2: Merritt of dula Quem Shabaz, Thank you, thank you. 564 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 3: Thank you. 565 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: I'm doctor Jim Dalton, President and CEO of Daymar. 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