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Speaker 1: What a glorious and I mean glorious Monday. It is

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Speaker 1: perfect outside, perfect Eddie. I don't know if you know

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Speaker 2: Are you talking about in terms of the picture in

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Speaker 2: By the way, I sound really echoey, Is that me?

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Speaker 2: I think that's you a little bit. Yeah, I do.

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Speaker 1: I have a like a congestion, which I shouldn't because

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Speaker 1: it's perfect outside, right. I don't think you do. I've

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Speaker 1: over the place in there. There's always a chance, Jake,

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Speaker 1: always a chance. There is plenty to talk about. There

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Speaker 1: is no open space when it comes to topics for

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Speaker 1: this time of year when doing sports talk radio in

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Speaker 1: this greatest city in all the land, Indianapolis, Indiana, Good

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Speaker 1: afternoon to you. My name is Jake Querry. That is

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Speaker 1: the voice you just heard of Eddie Garrison. We call

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Speaker 1: the program Query and company here on ninety three five

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Speaker 2: Colloquially, elye? Can you can you say that word? No,

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Speaker 1: Is it a word? I would assume colloquial? Is it

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Speaker 1: on this the day that we have college basketball really

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Speaker 1: ramping up. And yes, the Big Ten Tournament does not

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Speaker 1: get underway officially until tomorrow, and yes, the local interest

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Speaker 1: of that begins on Wednesday when Indiana plays. And yes,

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Speaker 1: But they are at this point scratching and crawling trying

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Speaker 1: We've got to round this out. Let's go who wants in?

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Speaker 1: And that's where it feels like things are purdue, of

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Speaker 1: but that's the reality after their home loss at Macurina

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Speaker 1: to finish the season, and that puts them and not

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Speaker 1: a precarious position. But certainly there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: but I think there's a lot to take from it.

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Speaker 1: Over the weekend, the Colts did make some news Zire

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Speaker 1: got themselves a little bit of insurance, I think you'd say,

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Speaker 1: tackle Eddie. Reality is this they shored up depth at

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Speaker 1: protecting against the run, correct, Yeah, a little bit.

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Speaker 1: He had fifty tackles last year, which was a season high, and.

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Speaker 2: Still only twenty five former fourth round pick. He's not

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Speaker 2: In terms of interior defensive linemen, but Ja cabed the

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Speaker 1: As we approach in her now past.

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Speaker 2: The legal tampering window period opening in the NFL, he

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Speaker 2: They weren't close last week when they tagged him, but

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Speaker 2: they are closer now, he said. In regards to Alec Pierce,

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's begin with it. Let's go back to

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Speaker 1: the Hire Franklin trade. What they have is Colby Wooden,

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Speaker 2: We haven't answer on one of the two free agents, Jake.

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Speaker 2: Breaking news from Adam Schefter, Alec Pierce and the Indianapolis

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Speaker 2: Colts have agreed to a contract four years, one hundred

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Speaker 2: Some other terms on that deal, Jake, This is from

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Speaker 2: Ian Rappaport of NFL Network. The deal came together overnight,

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Speaker 2: contains eighty four million dollars in guarantees, sixty million fulling

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Speaker 1: I'm a little surprised again that he and maybe you

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Speaker 1: You know, there is a an ex post Twitter account.

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Speaker 1: Pearce is staying in Indianapolis on a long term deal,

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Speaker 1: And of course everybody's like, who are you? But here

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Speaker 1: But the thing that I thought about going into today,

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Speaker 1: And allegedly the Colts made that offer even after Daniel

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Speaker 1: asking for fifty million dollars per year. Now, if that's

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Speaker 1: the Achilles might have actually saved Chris Ballard because what

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Speaker 1: and I get it, what it could have should it? Right?

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Speaker 1: the right trajectory and Alec Pierce says, I will come

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Speaker 2: To me, it's going to be interesting, as we have

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Speaker 1: will preview the Big Ten men's basketball tournament. What in

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Speaker 1: really solidify themselves with a win coming up here in

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Speaker 1: the Big Ten Men's Tournament. But let's go back to

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Speaker 1: Columbus a common way in which I ask it to you,

435
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Speaker 1: did that game tell you more about what Ohio State

436
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Speaker 1: did or the things that Indiana just failed to execute?

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Speaker 4: Well, I'd say more than anything else, Indiana failed to execute,

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Speaker 4: especially if they did defensive end of the court. They

439
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Speaker 4: gave up ninety points to Ohio State in that ballgame,

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Speaker 4: and that's just not acceptable in the sense of your

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Speaker 4: defensive performance. And that's called executing the game plan, so

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Speaker 4: to speak, from what the coaches are asking you to do.

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Speaker 4: Because the three point shot went down pretty easily, it

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Speaker 4: seemed like for Ohio State, and they had several guys

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Speaker 4: that knocked them down. Thoaton, of course, becomes the all

446
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Speaker 4: time leading scorer for Ohio State with the three that

447
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Speaker 4: he hits just before halftime, and then he proceeds in

448
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Speaker 4: the second half to do basically the same thing in

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Speaker 4: the second half. It's another eighteen point performance. He had

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Speaker 4: twenty five for the ballgame, becomes their all time leading

451
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Speaker 4: scorer over Dennis Hopson, who had that record for several years.

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Speaker 4: And you know, we may never see anybody else break

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Speaker 4: that record at Ohio State because we are in the

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Speaker 4: world of the transfer portal and how many guys are

455
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Speaker 4: going to stick around, how many guys go to the

456
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Speaker 4: NBA early. All those kinds of things play into If

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Speaker 4: you're great enough to score over two thousand points in

458
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Speaker 4: your career, you're probably not going to be around for

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Speaker 4: four for four years at a school. So it's the

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Speaker 4: world we live in right now, Jake. And unfortunately, from

461
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Speaker 4: Indiana's perspective, they did not play well enough defensively in

462
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Speaker 4: that ballgame, and that's what cost him.

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Speaker 1: Don We've talked all year long about and I guess

464
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Speaker 1: this will show that, you know, maybe I'm never happy,

465
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Speaker 1: never pleased, but you know, Lamar Wilkerson to me, truly

466
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: has been a great player for them, and he's a

467
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Speaker 1: very gifted offensive player obviously, and we've been talking all

468
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Speaker 1: year long about Indiana getting supporting help for him. They

469
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Speaker 1: had pretty good offensive balance on Saturday in Columbus, yet

470
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Speaker 1: it clearly wasn't enough, and maybe that takes away from

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Speaker 1: Wilkerson a little bit. Is there a safety for Indiana's

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Speaker 1: standpoint with Wilkerson of just saying, you know what, fifteen

473
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Speaker 1: shots is not enough for this guy. You know, I

474
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Speaker 1: know that we got to get balance, but he needs

475
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Speaker 1: to be putting it up at a high volume beat

476
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Speaker 1: and being a high volume shooter because he's a streak guy.

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Speaker 1: Is there a danger in that or are we finding

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Speaker 1: out that that might be their best attack.

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Speaker 4: Well, here's what I would say about that, Jake. And

480
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Speaker 4: here's the other thing people have to recognize. At this

481
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Speaker 4: point in the year, there is a major league scouting

482
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Speaker 4: report on every team in the Big Ten by the

483
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Speaker 4: coaches in this league, and they are going to try

484
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Speaker 4: to take away your best player if they can possibly

485
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Speaker 4: do that, or if they think they can take everybody

486
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Speaker 4: else away, let the best players score at will. You

487
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 4: got that combination going for you. But the truth of

488
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 4: the matter is the defenses have really got much stouter

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Speaker 4: with Lebar. They put their best guards on him, or

490
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 4: even a small forward that kind of thing to try

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Speaker 4: to keep him contained. And they certainly did that in

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Speaker 4: the game on Saturday, and he's still got in double

493
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Speaker 4: figure scoring wise, but he was nowhere near as effective

494
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Speaker 4: as he has been at the three point line, and

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Speaker 4: that's what one of the reasons because what the Ohio

496
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Speaker 4: State did defensively on him. So I just think that

497
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Speaker 4: this Indiana basketball team is limited in a number of ways.

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Speaker 4: We obviously saw Nick Dorn come into his own for

499
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Speaker 4: a short time here in the season and then he's

500
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Speaker 4: cooled off a little bit. Tucker de Breeze has had

501
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Speaker 4: to do so many more things this year than probably

502
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Speaker 4: he has ever had to do in his career because

503
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Speaker 4: of the expectations of what he or the reason he

504
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 4: can do that many things is because he's a coach's kid,

505
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Speaker 4: smart enough to do it, and therefore he's responsible for

506
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Speaker 4: a lot more things than he ever has been in

507
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Speaker 4: regard to scoring the basketball. So honestly, this team is

508
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Speaker 4: limited and that's the biggest issue. And the one thing

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Speaker 4: I will say, Jake, and I'm telling our fan base

510
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Speaker 4: this now. In my opinion, what this coach, Darren de

511
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Speaker 4: Breeze has done with this basketball team this year has

512
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Speaker 4: been remarkable because you've got mid major players on this roster.

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Speaker 4: They're ninety eight percent mid major players who are playing

514
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Speaker 4: on the Basketball League. But it's one of the toughest

515
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Speaker 4: in the country to deal with game in and game out,

516
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 4: and this ball club really has done, I think a

517
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 4: tremendous job in the sense of being able to win

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Speaker 4: some games that most people would have never thought they

519
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Speaker 4: had a chance to win.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, Oh go ahead, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm just all I'm saying here is you know,

522
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 4: this is a basketball team that still plays hard, and

523
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 4: they still play together. There's no selfishness on this ball club.

524
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Speaker 4: But they are mid major players playing at the highest level,

525
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Speaker 4: and that becomes a problem, especially as the year wears

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Speaker 4: on and they start to wear out a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Don one of the things and you and I talked

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Speaker 1: about this last week. Don Fisher is my guest. He's

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Speaker 1: the voice of Indiana basketball, of course, and Indiana football.

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Speaker 1: He joins me now on the Joba House Coldbrew Coffee

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Speaker 1: guest line. You and I talked about Ryan car. I

532
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: think most people now know Ryan Carr's story that went

533
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: to Indiana manager was working in the executive level for

534
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: the Pacers for twenty plus years. And Ryan loved it.

535
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Speaker 1: I mean Ryan loved and I know Ryan really well.

536
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: Ryan loved everything Don about being a part of the

537
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Speaker 1: Pacers and being in the trenches and building rosters and

538
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: all of that. And when he left to go back

539
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: and take over the job as executive director at Indiana,

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Speaker 1: I assumed it was because of his love for Indiana

541
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Speaker 1: University basketball, being in a lum and being a manager

542
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Speaker 1: under Bob Knight. And when I asked Ryan about it

543
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: on a personal phone call, not on the air, but

544
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Speaker 1: I said, so, Ryan, may I assume that you're going

545
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: in there as an hired by Indiana Athletics, regardless of

546
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: who the coach is, You have this job. And he said, oh, no, no, no,

547
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Speaker 1: I was hired by Darren Devrees Jake because I truly

548
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: believe in Darren Devrees. I've gotten to know him and

549
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: the character that he has. But this guy, Jake is

550
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: a flat out really good coach, and I want to

551
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Speaker 1: be a part of that. And for Ryan to take

552
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: a situation where he had everything he wanted for the

553
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: NBA to go and take what would be seen don

554
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: as a risk in that schematic situation of it, that

555
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: tells me everything I need to know right there about

556
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: Darren de Brees and the fact that this guy clearly

557
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: has people that understand basketball for more than I under

558
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: the understanding that he knows how to coach a basketball team,

559
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? That told me that everything right.

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Speaker 4: There, Yeah, exactly. And I think Ryan is a great

561
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 4: get for this program. I don't think there's any doubt

562
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 4: about that. And you're right, Darren de Brees hired him.

563
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Speaker 4: He was not necessarily hired by the athletic department. He's

564
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Speaker 4: hired by the athletic department, as we all know, but

565
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Speaker 4: the guy who wanted him was Darren And I know

566
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Speaker 4: that Ryan believes in what Darren Debries can bring to

567
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Speaker 4: the table as a head basketball coach at IU. And

568
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 4: so that's one of the reasons right now why I'm

569
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 4: a little disturbed with our fan base that continues to expect,

570
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 4: you know, things that shouldn't be expected at this juncture

571
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Speaker 4: and when you have to when you have to go

572
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 4: out and get an entire new roster players and you

573
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 4: have to do it through the transfer portal system, and

574
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 4: you're looking for the best that you can find and

575
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 4: still afford, so to speaking, you're doing your best. And

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Speaker 4: I think that's exactly what this program has done. I

577
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 4: think the first year is I knew it was going

578
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 4: to be problematic in some ways. I thought they might

579
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Speaker 4: win a few more games than they have. But again,

580
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Speaker 4: I think got talked about the limitations that this team

581
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 4: has in that regard, and so I just hope our

582
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 4: fan base understands your expectations. They are so unrealistic in

583
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 4: so many ways. And that's the way it's been for

584
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 4: the last thirty five years because Indiana basketball has not

585
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 4: been what it was under Bob Knight. It's that simple.

586
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 4: So and even at the end of Knight's era, it

587
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 4: was starting to wan little bit, as you know. So

588
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 4: we're looking at the program right now that you know,

589
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 4: the fan base, at least the older part of the

590
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 4: fan base, believes this team is still a blue blood

591
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 4: and they're not playing blue blood basketball, let's face it.

592
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Speaker 4: And that's why Darren de Breeze was hired, and that's

593
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Speaker 4: why you give him, give him time and still the

594
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 4: support that this program needs, because when they don't show up,

595
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,919
Speaker 4: or they start brewing a player or that kind of thing,

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00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 4: you're just making a huge mistaken has a huge mistake.

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Speaker 1: Has the blessing of Indiana basketball. And by that I

598
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: mean the wonderful memories in years that you know, people

599
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Speaker 1: of a certain age, I mean my age and older

600
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 1: can still live off of right. Has that blessing at

601
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: times been a curse for those that are currently dressing

602
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Speaker 1: as Indiana basketball.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's no doubt.

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Speaker 4: I mean again, you know, everybody has expectations. We all

605
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 4: want the season to be successful. We all want the

606
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 4: team to make the NCAA tournament with the roster that

607
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 4: was acquired this year. Like I said before, these are

608
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Speaker 4: mid major players that never played in the Big Ten

609
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 4: Conference or any powerful conference before, and it takes its

610
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Speaker 4: toll as the season goes down the wire. And that's

611
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Speaker 4: what it's done with this team. I think it's one

612
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 4: of the reasons this team didn't flourish here at the

613
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Speaker 4: end of the season and have lost five of the

614
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Speaker 4: last six ball games. And that's not a knock on

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Speaker 4: the players. These kids came in and have given their

616
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Speaker 4: all and there's not one of them on this basketball

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00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 4: team that has played quite a few minutes this year

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Speaker 4: that I would not congratulate on having a heck of

619
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Speaker 4: a season because I think they've overachieved in many respects.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about, don you know, in

621
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Speaker 1: the Ohio State game, saw some production that I liked

622
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Speaker 1: out of Reed Bailey, who probably needed to get that

623
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Speaker 1: going a little bit like in a push here towards

624
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Speaker 1: the tournaments. But was that because of something they came

625
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Speaker 1: up with the kind of get Reed Bailey going, or

626
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Speaker 1: were they just taking advantage of an area that Ohio

627
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: State was giving to them, And so you don't read

628
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Speaker 1: a lot into the fact that he had a nice outing.

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Speaker 4: Well, here's what I would tell you through this year

630
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Speaker 4: between Sam Alexis and Reed Bailey. One game it would

631
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Speaker 4: be read it was really playing well. The next game

632
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 4: it would be Sam. And they went back and forth,

633
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 4: back and forth all year long until probably the last

634
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 4: ten to twelve ball games of this season, and Sam

635
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 4: kind of took over here towards the end. Red I

636
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 4: think is one of those bigs. But he's really a

637
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 4: stretch four. He's not a trough five. And even though

638
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 4: he's done a nice job in there, you can see

639
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 4: that he has been a little He's had players that

640
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 4: takes advantage of some of his weaknesses. But he's just

641
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 4: a great young man and a kid that plays as

642
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 4: hard as he possibly can. And he has not played

643
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 4: his best basketball, although he played a really good ball

644
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 4: game against Ohio State and Sam Alexis played welling in

645
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 4: Ohio State. Both of them were in the ballgame at

646
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Speaker 4: one time together, which is a total rarity. I don't

647
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 4: think it's ever happened this year at any other time

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Speaker 4: that they had both in the game at the same time.

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Speaker 4: So that had to do probably a little bit with

650
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 4: what Ohio State was trying to do defensively.

651
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: Indiana will open up the Big Ten Tournament against either

652
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: Northwestern or Penn State. In your mind, don with the

653
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: way Indiana's playing right now or the areas of which

654
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: they now see themselves in the way they played, do

655
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: you think that one of those two would be a

656
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: better matchup than the other or is it pretty much

657
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: a draw?

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00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 4: Well, if you have, If you're asking me who I

659
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 4: think we can beat, and I would I would say

660
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 4: it's not a lot, but it would be one that

661
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 4: I might bet on. I'd rather play Penn State because

662
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 4: Indiana is not lost to Northwestern six straight runs, including this.

663
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: Assembly all this time, right, that's the good news.

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Speaker 4: Well, trustby, it didn't matter if it was in Assembly

665
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 4: Hall or in Welsh Ryde Arena up in Northwestern. Northwestern

666
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 4: has had Indiana's number now for the last several years now,

667
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 4: they've won six in a row over IU, and I

668
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 4: still think that Indiana should have won that ball game

669
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 4: against the Cats this season here late in the year,

670
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 4: but they did not, and they got a chance to

671
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 4: break that curse if they could win this first ball game,

672
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Speaker 4: because I think it'll be Northwestern who they will end

673
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 4: up playing.

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Speaker 1: It will be on Wednesday, Good Wednesday in Chicago six

675
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: thirty tip local time, and of course you'll hear it

676
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: on our sister station ninety three WIBC. Don a pleasure

677
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: as always, man and enjoy this flurry of a run.

678
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: We'll see how many games it is for Indiana.

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00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 4: Sounds good, Thanks, Jake.

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00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Don Fisher joining us on the Java House

681
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 1: Coldbrew Coffee guest line. Eddie, you said, we have breaking news.

682
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: The Indianapolis Colts have made a trade. They are sending

683
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 2: wide receiver Michael Pittman Junior to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Okay,

684
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 2: in exchange for that part we don't know yet. Okay,

685
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,720
Speaker 2: so that is not again.

686
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: Now comes now comes the salary match game because with

687
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Speaker 1: Alec Pierce in, Michael Pittman Junior out, Zire Franklin out.

688
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: Although you get a player back and you will for

689
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: Pittman as well, one would assume, and we'll see what

690
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: that is. Chap joins us to break down all of it,

691
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you that little tidbit about something about

692
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: Mary next. So Eddie, we're going to recap all the

693
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: Colts news here. But at the end of something about Mary,

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00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: the thing that I think maybe I'm the only one

695
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 1: that thinks this, but this is like when we decipher

696
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: right now the moves the Colts are making. I'm always

697
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 1: looking at like I don't know, like around the corner stuff.

698
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: Right at the end of the movie, when Ted is

699
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: leaving and he is basically said to Mary like go

700
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: with Brett. That's your guy. He walks out and he

701
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: says goodbye to Warren by lifting up Warren's headset and

702
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: whispering in his ear, and Warren does not react, he

703
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: simply says goodbye to him. And for Mary, that was

704
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: her sign Warren had finally accepted and felt comfortable around Ted,

705
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: and she had never seen that before in regards to

706
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: the ear, and that's why she chose him, because that

707
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: was her sign through her brother that that was the

708
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:23,959
Speaker 1: guy for her.

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00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 2: Right and especially when he remembered Ted after all those

710
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 2: years of not correct seeing each other.

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00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: Franken beans right. So, if you're looking at the Colt situation,

712
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: by announcing that they have agreed to terms with Alec

713
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: Pierce even before he can go into free agency, reading

714
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: into that tells me that that means in fact they

715
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: are close to and just at this point, it's a

716
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: matter of the announcement away from announcing that they are

717
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: going to retain Daniel Jones and re sign Daniel Jones

718
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: because a to beyond just the transition tag, and because

719
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: Alec Pierce had made it very clear going into it

720
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Speaker 1: that Daniel Jones was a big part of why he

721
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: would want to be here. So what we know is this,

722
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: Alec Pierce has agreed in principle to a four year

723
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: reportedly one hundred and fourteen million dollar deal with the

724
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Speaker 1: Colts that would be eighty four million dollars guaranteed. In

725
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: addition to that, yesterday they traded Zaire Franklin, they today

726
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: have apparently agreed with Pittsburgh to trade Michael Pittman Junior.

727
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: Now that frees up some money there, depending on what's

728
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: coming back, Eddie, are we starting to get a better

729
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 1: understanding as to what would be coming back from Pittsburgh.

730
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Speaker 2: All that is being reported isn't a it's a late

731
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 2: round pickswap whatever that means.

732
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Speaker 1: And I can't recall, and Chap will be able to

733
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: answer this better when we have him on. I know,

734
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: in the NBA, for example, you do not have to

735
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: do that. In the NFL, you don't have to salary match, right, No, okay,

736
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: you would have to assume Jake that sense. It's a

737
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: late round pickswall.

738
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Speaker 2: That means that the Steelers are willing to take on

739
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 2: and pay the entirety of the contract for Michael Pittman Junior.

740
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: Now, Pittman's contract, which already is being listed now on

741
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's cap pit, is at twenty four million a twenty

742
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: two million dollar base twenty two dollars or twenty two

743
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: million dollar base, two million dollar roster bonus. So it

744
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 1: looks as though Pittsburgh is absorbing that. So that frees

745
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: up twenty four million for the Colts now in terms

746
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: of their cap Now, as I mentioned earlier, if Daniel

747
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: Jones was indeed looking for a contract that would pay

748
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 1: him in the fifty million dollar per range, Okay, if

749
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: that's true. If he had been healthy and never had injury,

750
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: and the Colts had continued on the trajectory they were headed,

751
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 1: you can only imagine what some team would have done

752
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 1: to escalate that price, Meaning the Colts at that point

753
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: probably would have had to franchise tag him, which means

754
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: forty seven million, so ten million more than where they

755
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: are right now, just to have him for the year.

756
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: And then it would have come down to would Chris

757
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: Ballard have matched that and said, you know what, we'll

758
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: match Arizona, We'll match Cleveland or New York, and we'll

759
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: give this guy fifty five million per year, which sounds astronomical,

760
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: but it's eight million dollars more than what they would

761
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: have had to pay in a franchise tag. In that case,

762
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: that would have, i think, really handcuffed him. And the

763
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: other thing would have been they he may have said,

764
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: we're gonna let him walk. He's healthy, he had a

765
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: great year, he's a great player, we won a playoff game,

766
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 1: but at fifty five million a year, we're not going

767
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: to pay that. And they may have let him walk,

768
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 1: and then you're back to square one. So to some extent,

769
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: that injury might have actually saved the Colts. Crazy as

770
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: that sounds that might have saved him a little bit.

771
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 1: But things are moving and moving very quickly. And the

772
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: breaking news sounder that we use it sounds like this.

773
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: This is not we don't have breaking news, but it

774
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: sounds like this. So if you hear that, it does

775
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: not mean that a Dolly Madison snackcake commercial is upcoming.

776
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: If you know, you know, simply means pay attention.

777
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: I can give you something if you want something with

778
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 2: the breaking new sounder there. Jake Malik Willis has signed

779
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 2: with the Miami Dolphins three years, sixty seven and a

780
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 2: half million dollars. And then Isaiah Likely formerly with the

781
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens, follows his head coach during his time in

782
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 2: Baltimore to New York and he signs with the Giants

783
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 2: three years, forty million dollars.

784
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: You know I had heard that was likely.

785
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 2: Okay nevill Gallimore, by the way, who I had some

786
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: nice production for the Colts this year. Just signed a

787
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 2: two year deal worth twelve million dollars to go to

788
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears. Back to back off season now where

789
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 2: Chicago has inked a defensive lineman free agent from the Colts.

790
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: And Kansas City did what Kansas City does right and

791
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: adding themselves a little bit of insurance policy offensively? Is

792
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 1: that right? Yeah?

793
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 2: They go after the Super Bowl MVP Kenneth Walker to

794
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 2: show up that rainning back room, which means, now you

795
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 2: have to wonder, Jacob, where does Jeremiah Love go in

796
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 2: the draft? Because I know a lot of people had

797
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,919
Speaker 2: him pegged there at ten to Kansas City.

798
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: It was the other nine or ten.

799
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 2: I can't remember the exact range for Kansas City, but

800
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 2: wonder what that means? Wore the former Notre Dame start

801
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 2: running back?

802
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: Now do we okay, Eddie, do we have is Chap

803
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: available to join.

804
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 2: Us here in four minutes? Yes, I can find out, okay,

805
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: because I know he's going to be busy, but I

806
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 2: think he's going to join us other side.

807
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: Uh okay, So Mike Chap, I'm going to join us

808
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: here coming up just about ten minutes from now. Alec

809
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: Pierce in the mix with the Colts, And I'm telling

810
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: you that means that he knows Daniel Jones is going

811
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: to be in the mix. That's the easiest way to

812
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: interpret that. I'm always curious of this the and I'm

813
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: simply being a semantic overthinker here, Eddie. But when you

814
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: hear things like legal tampering, legal tampering, we're in the

815
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: period of legal tampering. What does that mean? Legal tampering? Yeah,

816
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: what's the difference between that and tampering? Right? It was funny, Kay,

817
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: tampering means legal, does it not? It's an oxy moron,

818
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: isn't it legal tampering? Just say precursor to signing that

819
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: like what like you can start talking now, but you

820
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:15,720
Speaker 1: can't actually sign anything. Okay, just call it negotiation period.

821
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: The negotiation period is opened. Yeah, easiest way to say it, right.

822
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 2: I just don't understand what the point of it is

823
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 2: because there were reports this morning before the legal tampering

824
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: period opened that h Rashaun Gary, who ends up getting

825
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 2: traded from Green Bay to Dallas, was in discussions about

826
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 2: a contract with the Cowboys. Like, how do these discussions

827
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 2: happen already if it's not during the legal tampering period?

828
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean that's now what I said earlier this

829
00:48:55,200 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: when Alec Pierce from the end of the season made

830
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 1: it very clear that Daniel Jones was an integral reason

831
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: and part why he would re sign here, and that

832
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: the quarterback situation and position. There were basically three things

833
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: that Alec Pierce made very clear. Three things that he

834
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: made very clear that he wanted in where he was

835
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: going to sign money. Is it goes without saying, right,

836
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: that goes without saying, but he said, I want to

837
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: be targeted more in an offense of say one hundred targets.

838
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: And he also said that Daniel Jones was an important

839
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: part of his thought process in terms of staying in Indianapolis,

840
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: and that he thought when Daniel Jones was healthy, he

841
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: loved where their offense was. Now, as soon as it

842
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: was announced that Alec Pierce was re signing, I said,

843
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: that tells me that he knows Daniel Jones is going

844
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: to get more than just one year here. He would

845
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: not sign for three years if he thought they were

846
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: going to do a transition tag with Daniel Jones and

847
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden he was going to be

848
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 1: catching footballs from nothing against Riley Leonard. But Riley Leonard

849
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: or like the next draftde project and several people have

850
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: said to me, dude, he has one hundred and fourteen

851
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: million reasons to sign here. He would have gotten that

852
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: anywhere he was going to be the top wide receiver

853
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: target and free agency, there are a ton of teams

854
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: that were going to give him and were prepared to

855
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: give him a ton of money, So that would have

856
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: been That's simply my point. If you look at he

857
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: was an now it is a draft that does seemingly

858
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 1: have some wide receiver targets within it. Michael Pittman Junior

859
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: on his way to Pittsburgh, and wide receiver is a

860
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 1: position that takes Wide receiver is a crock pop position.

861
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 1: It's a krock pop position. So is quarterback. Those are

862
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: two positions that you basically have to let him simmer

863
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: and burn for a while, for a long time, in

864
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: a slow process, before you finally get the full flavor.

865
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: Alec Pierson prime example. There were plenty of us in

866
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: this town. I can't recall if I was one of them,

867
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: if I said it, but I certainly was thinking of like, man,

868
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: was this guy really like the I mean, when is

869
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,919
Speaker 1: this going to get going? And obviously now it has,

870
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 1: and certainly Reggie Wayne was one of those guys. You know,

871
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: it's very seldom Randy Moss. The biggest anomaly about Randy Moss,

872
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: aside from just the overall freak, the speed, the hand eye,

873
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: all of it. Randy Moss came out of the womb

874
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: in the NFL ready to play. He was in Minnesota

875
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: and they had one I mean, he had what three

876
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: catches on Thanksgiving in his rookie year, and it's like,

877
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,280
Speaker 1: holy cow, this guy is a different level, different animal.

878
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: And it was very clear from the beginning that Randy

879
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: Moss can flat out play. But most wide receivers it

880
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 1: takes a while for them to just understand the defenses.

881
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 1: The biggest thing that I always go to is the window.

882
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: Just you know, being open at the NFL level is

883
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: different than being open at the college level. It just is.

884
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: And guys that in the in college the very best

885
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: of the best. If separation typically is what allowed them

886
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: to get open in college, then in the NFL that

887
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: separation is not there and it takes them. They have

888
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: to then learn routes and timing. That's why a guy

889
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: like an Elijah Surat, who is not necessarily a burner

890
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: to get open guy, but a precision to get open guy,

891
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 1: may have a shorter gestation period than a typical wide receiver.

892
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: Alec Pierce is one that seemingly was always from the

893
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: line able to get himself open in college, he had

894
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 1: to learn a little bit more about the openness in

895
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: the NFL. And then, of course it didn't help that

896
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 1: he was primarily in the beginning a deep ball guy,

897
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 1: and they didn't have anybody to get the deep ball

898
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 1: with consistency to him in the beginning, and now theoretically

899
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: they do. Joining us now on the Java House Colebrew

900
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 1: Coffee guest line to go over all of this ton

901
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: to get to with Mike Chappell of CBS four and

902
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: Fox fifty nine chat. First question, I will ask you

903
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: right out of the box, Alec Pierce agreeing to terms,

904
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: does that tell you that he believes that in fact,

905
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is right around the corner as the next

906
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 1: to ink a multi year deal.

907
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I won't be that gets done today tomorrow. I'm

908
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 3: not sure how close they were with the transition tag,

909
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,240
Speaker 3: but I think they're close and it you know again

910
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 3: what I'm trying to think, But what I saw with

911
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 3: Pierce's guaranteed money, it was it was monster.

912
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

913
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 3: I mean that's what talks the four years and all that.

914
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 3: It helps with cap numbers and all that, but it

915
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 3: guaranteed money talks. I think that that and that probably

916
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 3: had something to do with Pierce staying is they they've

917
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 3: been upfront and you know, we're working on this. We're

918
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 3: going to get it done. So yeah, it was always

919
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 3: going to be a package deal if they could, so

920
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 3: good for them. And then I saw they traded Pitt

921
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 3: to pitt to pitt Good for Pittman because there was

922
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 3: no way they were going to be able to have

923
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 3: Pittman and Pierce on the same roster moving forward. It

924
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 3: just doesn't work. So one thing that I maybe we've

925
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 3: talked about and I still believe this wholeheartedly. They need

926
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 3: another receiver.

927
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 1: They need another respec now with Pittman gone, right, well.

928
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 3: See, I yeah, I I Pierce wants to do more.

929
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 3: And he was like fourth on the team with eighty

930
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 3: four targets or whatever it was, and and he's going

931
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,919
Speaker 3: to get more, but he still needs to he needs

932
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 3: to be the quality guy, uh, not so much quantity.

933
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 3: And and you know if he if he gets one

934
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty catch or targets, he's not average twenty

935
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 3: yards catch. He does not, So they need someone else

936
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 3: in there. Maybe maybe the draft. They've had very good

937
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 3: luck with second round draft fix except for ad Mitchell.

938
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 3: So I think that's a that's maybe a possibility. I

939
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 3: would probably prefer a veteran that you can get relatively cheap,

940
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 3: whatever that is by today's standards. So they need another receiver,

941
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 3: so that Piers all of a sudden is see. I

942
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 3: never really viewed Pittman as a true one. I just didn't,

943
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 3: And right now I don't view pierces of one. I

944
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 3: just don't. He's very, very good at elite at what

945
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 3: he does, but.

946
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: He's more versatile a receiver. I don't disagree with you, Chap,

947
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: but when I say he, I mean Alec Pearce. Alec

948
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 1: Pierce is a more versatile receiver than he was when

949
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: he entered the league.

950
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 3: Do you agree with that? No question? And you mentioned two.

951
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 3: Part of the reason that he didn't really emerge early

952
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 3: is that they go back and look if he ever

953
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 3: break up game tapes from allies. Look look the first

954
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 3: couple of years, how many times he was wide open,

955
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 3: wide open, deep and either couldn't or wouldn't get the

956
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 3: ball to him. I remember Reggie Wayne talking. He said, yeah,

957
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 3: I got five these twelve plays where he's open and

958
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 3: at the time the quarterbacks didn't have the capabilities of

959
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 3: or the desire to look deep. So yeah, it's this

960
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 3: is again, he's got so much room to grow. And

961
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 3: when you pay a guy. He even said that when

962
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 3: he talked to No. One podcast that you know when

963
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 3: when you're paid like that, they want more out of you,

964
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 3: They spect more out of you. And that's that's the

965
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 3: way it is. So yeah, it's uh, this they move

966
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 3: on and that's this is the way. This is the

967
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 3: way if you're fortunate draft picks work. You hit on

968
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 3: Pitt and he's pretty good, and then comes time to

969
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 3: resign him, and you resign him and he's pretty good.

970
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 3: And then you you you draft Pierce and he's pretty

971
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 3: good and comes time to resigning and then you've got

972
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 3: to resign him.

973
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: And it called.

974
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 3: You know, they were they were paid for and let's

975
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 3: be honest, they were paid to keep Alli Pierce. But

976
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 3: that's what this time of year is. You'd rather overpay

977
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 3: for your own guys than overpay for somebody who you've

978
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 3: seen from afar and you really don't know as much about.

979
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 3: So this is a good day so far for the Colts,

980
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 3: and they're probably not done, okay.

981
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: Chap here's the cynic in me. Okay, yep, I want

982
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: to present to you like a study, and then I

983
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: want you, as the professor, the dean, if you will

984
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: to grade.

985
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 3: My to put red marks all over it and.

986
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: Correct here's my thesis. My statement simply would be, there

987
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: is a cautionary tale before us. There's a cautionary tale

988
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:34,439
Speaker 1: before us of how high we do the backflip over

989
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 1: the fact that the Colts have signed and kept Alec

990
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: Pearce as a free agent and prohibited him from going

991
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: into free agency and doing so by shedding salary, of

992
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: trading away Michael Pittman for a ham sandwich, because in fact,

993
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 1: Michael Pittman was the last guy we did this with

994
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: where they had to have him. They had to have him.

995
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: You got to resign Michael Pittman Jr. What's the latest,

996
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: Tom Pittman. Now they signed Michael Pittman Jr. Hooray, thank goodness,

997
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: bring the parade. There's a cautionary tail there.

998
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 3: Well yeah, but but but they didn't. They didn't overpay

999
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 3: grossly on Pittman at all. They got him at a

1000
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 3: pretty good price at the time because they signed him

1001
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 3: before all the receiver contracts went crazy and they got

1002
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 3: good stuff out of Pittman. It's they got a good

1003
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 3: career out of Pittman. He tailed off last year, but

1004
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 3: he is that he's one of the right places you

1005
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 3: talked about, you know, Pittsburgh tough. He is a tough course,

1006
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 3: it is. They're one of the they're one of the

1007
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 3: teams that lit him up with that illegal shot.

1008
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: Of course, we have no idea who's going to be

1009
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: throwing to him, but yes.

1010
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 3: Right right, and it's again that was important for Piers

1011
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 3: to have Jones here longer than the transition tag. But no,

1012
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 3: this is a this is the way it works. I'm

1013
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 3: waiting and we got after out. Check social media, and

1014
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 3: it's going to happen. People are going to be up

1015
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,479
Speaker 3: in arms that the Colts paid this much for Aley

1016
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 3: Pierce and they would have been the same ones pissed

1017
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 3: off if they didn't. He signed Alec Pierce, so you

1018
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 3: can't win. Yeah, but he's twenty he's gonna be twenty six,

1019
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 3: and he's his games. You got so much room to grow.

1020
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 3: This is this is not a bad signing. Again, You're

1021
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 3: you're gonna overpay because that's Look, look at all these

1022
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 3: contracts coming up today. They're all gonna be overpaid. They

1023
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 3: are you just if you're gonna And again, Jim Mercy

1024
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 3: was always good at this is you'd overpaid for your

1025
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 3: own because you know them, you know the good, the

1026
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 3: bad and all that stuff. So I thought they got

1027
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 3: good mileage pit Pit's like fifth in franchise history, and

1028
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 3: catches I'm like seventh in in yards. Now, the touchdowns

1029
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 3: were lacking, but he was as good of a cult

1030
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 3: when you know, when they all throughout that he's a

1031
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 3: cult guy, he's he's a cult Well, yeah, Pittman was,

1032
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 3: and I think I think Pierce will be two. So

1033
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 3: it's just the evolution of the position. And they still

1034
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 3: lack that guy. They still lack Chase and Justin Jefferson

1035
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 3: and and on and on those half a dozen guys. Ever,

1036
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 3: you know, twenty teams lacked that guy. So what we

1037
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 3: saw what we saw last year for the again here

1038
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 3: we go again the small sample size of ten games.

1039
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 3: But when they had the right pieces in place, they

1040
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 3: were darn good. That's why I say they got to

1041
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 3: find somehow to replace some of Pitt's targets and what

1042
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 3: Pitt did underneath and the tough catches and uh and

1043
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 3: allow and allow Pierce to sort of be the underneath

1044
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 3: guy occasionally, but still flied because that's what he does.

1045
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 3: That's what he does. And you know with Tyler Warren

1046
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 3: and and Josh Downs is due to kind of bounce

1047
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 3: back after a quiet year last year. So yeah, this

1048
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 3: is you know when they when when they told us

1049
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 3: when when when Chris Teller told us at the combine

1050
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 3: that Daniel and Aleck are the big pieces and then

1051
01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 3: we feel around, we mold from there that's exactly the

1052
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 3: right thing. And that's what they're doing. And like I said,

1053
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 3: I won't be surprised at all that they get Jones

1054
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 3: done soon and then all of a sudden you got

1055
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 3: some cap space. I've not seen what Pierce's cap number is.

1056
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 3: It won't be whatever the average of the contract it was.

1057
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 3: Is it I've been kind of busy this morning, but

1058
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 3: is at four years, one hundred and sixteen million.

1059
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 1: It's like four year one fourteen I think was originally

1060
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: what I saw.

1061
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 3: So it's about twenty nine a year. His cap number

1062
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 3: is going to be lower initially because because they need

1063
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 3: it needs to be. So this is and again well

1064
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 3: this is this works or not It is all going

1065
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 3: to be upon Daniel Jones. I don't care how expansive

1066
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 3: Alli Pierce's game gets to be and all this stuff.

1067
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 3: If Jones doesn't work, then it's all it's not going

1068
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 3: to work. You know, none of it's going to work.

1069
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 3: So I applawed him for doing it. And I know

1070
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,479
Speaker 3: they were catching hell that they didn't get it done

1071
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 3: until you know that time, but that that's when deals

1072
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 3: get done. That's when a lot of the guys, the

1073
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 3: really big deals get done, is when when you know

1074
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 3: it's the old uh you know, deadlines per actions, that's

1075
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 3: true in everything you do. So good for them, and

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01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 3: you know, I'm sorry to see Pitt go. But they

1077
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 3: were gonna they were gonna Cautchem if they couldn't trade him.

1078
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 3: They were going to cut Zaire Franklin if they couldn't

1079
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 3: trade him.

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01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: Chap when you look at that, Okay, so they trade

1081
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: Zaire Franklin for a twenty five year old I mean,

1082
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 1: looks to be solid, but not great.

1083
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 3: Past rushing sixteen started sixteen games for the Packers last year.

1084
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 1: A run stopping not past rushing, but a run stopping

1085
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. A Grover Stewart light right.

1086
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 3: I mean probably more, probably more Deforce Buckner type.

1087
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, okay, I mean I'm using light and air

1088
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 1: quotes there, right right, right, right right, But you look

1089
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 1: at that Michael Pittman Junior now is on his way

1090
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh. Alec Pierce is back in the mix, and

1091
01:03:58,040 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: we can and we know at least for the year

1092
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: unless someone comes with an offer that's unbelievable that Daniel

1093
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 1: Jones is going to be your quarterback? Are the Indianapolis

1094
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 1: Colts right now better than they were three months ago?

1095
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,439
Speaker 3: If I knew who's going to take Pittman's place, I'd

1096
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 3: say yes, What if it's a rook say yes, well, yes, yes,

1097
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 3: I mean.

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01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 1: Do they have the money to go out and get

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01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 1: Pittman's replacement at the level of experience and or production.

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Speaker 3: Of no, no, no, no, So it's going to be

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01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 3: a guy that maybe is that I hate to say,

1102
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 3: that veteran guy that'll be left over because they've had

1103
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 3: such bad luck with that guy. When Donnie Avery's your

1104
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 3: best free agent signing, and that was in twenty twelve,

1105
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 3: you've not done a great job with it. So I

1106
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 3: still didn't think I have a chance to be better.

1107
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 3: Now this is this is if Jones comes back come

1108
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 3: August and he's and he's playing at a decent level,

1109
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 3: which they hope, but you don't know.

1110
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: So Yeah.

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01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 3: And in the defense, yes, because the defense is gonna

1112
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:04,919
Speaker 3: be better.

1113
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: It is.

1114
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 3: You're gonna you know, knock on wood, you've got you're

1115
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 3: gonna have two top line corners, your safety is going

1116
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 3: to be here another year, and you're gonna they were

1117
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 3: gonna replace they were going to redo the the linebacker,

1118
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 3: and you're apparently gonna get Buckner back. So yes, as

1119
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 3: we sit here now, barring injuries or bad rehabs, they

1120
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 3: will be better than they were maybe when they were

1121
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 3: eight and two. That's a stretch, But I think this

1122
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 3: can this can be a playoff challenger. Uh if they

1123
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 3: add a few pieces here and there, and they're important

1124
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 3: pieces again, it's it's it's another receiver. Uh, they need

1125
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 3: a pass rusher. I hope they clear from the space

1126
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 3: and can get a pass rusher. That's the primary need

1127
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 3: right now. I'll take a ten SAT guy over a

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01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 3: and I'd love to I'd love the receiver position kind

1129
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 3: of be on the zack burner over getting a pass rusher.

1130
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 1: Chap, do you believe that Zire Franklin was moved A

1131
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 1: because they had to get cap flexible, B because they

1132
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 1: felt that line was more important than linebacker or C.

1133
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 1: Because while a really nice guy, they felt like some

1134
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 1: of the off field stuff was too much a distraction.

1135
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 3: I would say, d his production had followed off and

1136
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 3: he just wasn't a fit in this defense. The distractions

1137
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 3: were just that, and they let him know that they

1138
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 3: that those needed to quiet down. The cast space they

1139
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 3: created five million, which which is kind of significant, but

1140
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 3: not really because you know, they were going to cut Pittman.

1141
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 3: With trading Pittman, he create twenty four million dollars cast space.

1142
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 3: I think more of the fact that they had gotten

1143
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 3: about as much out of their second seventh round draft

1144
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 3: pick that year and they were going to move on.

1145
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 3: Not because of the distractions and not because of all,

1146
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 3: but because he just really didn't fIF. You know, Balertold

1147
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 3: was again he wanted to get younger and faster in

1148
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 3: the front seven, and that was part of it.

1149
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 1: Again. Alec Pierce is if you're just joining us. Alec

1150
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 1: Pierce earlier today announced agreeing to a term with the

1151
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 1: Colts four year, one hundred and fourteen million there are

1152
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 1: some variation of report of what the total guaranteed money is.

1153
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 1: Some say eighty million, some say eighty four. That was

1154
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 1: the initial report guaranteed it sign of sixty is also

1155
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 1: out there. But either way, Alec Pierce is agreeing to

1156
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 1: terms and then Daniel Jones, while close, there is not

1157
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 1: yet any report chap to me. Did the Colts I'm

1158
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 1: going to go back to this point. We can say

1159
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 1: the Colts over and I'm using air quotes again that

1160
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 1: they overpaid for Alec Pierce. But did they overpay over

1161
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 1: the market value? Because it is my belief and why

1162
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 1: I say it seems as though this is a precursor

1163
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 1: to an inevitable Jones announcement. The reason I say that

1164
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 1: is because Pierce has said that he wants you know

1165
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:18,799
Speaker 1: that point right, He really right? Jones was an important aspect.

1166
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 1: He would have gotten this amount of money if he

1167
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 1: got on the open market, right.

1168
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 3: He might have gotten more.

1169
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was whole That was my whole.

1170
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 3: Point about if he gets a chance to talk to

1171
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 3: other teams, somebody probably would have paid thirty million to

1172
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 3: here there was And again the stuff you be doing

1173
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 3: on the internet now is just so much of it

1174
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 3: was just garbage. Frisco was ready to pay thirty million,

1175
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 3: and you don't know that, but I'm sure that Pierce's

1176
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 3: agent had a pretty darn good idea what somebody's going

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01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 3: to pay now that guaranteed money might have been quite

1178
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 3: a bit more than anybody else would have paid. So no,

1179
01:08:56,240 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 3: I again, Jones had to her. Uh, Piers had to

1180
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 3: have some idea what was out there. But I really

1181
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 3: think all things being equal, and when you're talking a

1182
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 3: few million is I don't know if that's equal or not.

1183
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 3: I think a player likes to stay where he is,

1184
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 3: where you're comfortable. And again he's got a good relationship

1185
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 3: with Jones. And again I do think the fact that

1186
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 3: that that they I think they can get Jones done.

1187
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 3: And maybe Chris Bauers had listen, We're not that far away.

1188
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 3: You know, it's our intention. And if you get Jones

1189
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 3: done at a more reasonable rate than the transition tag,

1190
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:33,759
Speaker 3: you create more camp space.

1191
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 1: Well, and one would assume those two pie talked, right,

1192
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm Peers, I mean, you know.

1193
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 3: Doubles, I saw that. That's what And one thing to

1194
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 3: tell you tell your listeners when you see this legal

1195
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:49,719
Speaker 3: tampering that's just wrong. If it's legal, it's not tampering.

1196
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 3: It's a three creation period.

1197
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:56,600
Speaker 1: They ought to just call it the beginning open negotiation,

1198
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 1: right right right.

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01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 3: Tampering is when you're not now now, I think tampering

1200
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 3: one on the combine. You don't get these deals done

1201
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 3: in five minutes after the noon deadline without having some

1202
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 3: groundwork laid at the combine or with these teams. So

1203
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 3: that's done. The league just hasn't got the desire to

1204
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 3: put an end to I don't know how you put

1205
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:17,839
Speaker 3: it into.

1206
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:19,679
Speaker 1: It, like getting a ticket for legal speeding.

1207
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 3: Yes, well yeah, right right, yeah, so yeah, it's legal,

1208
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 3: so it's not hampering. So please it's a cute thing

1209
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 3: to say, but it's not legal tampering. It's the three

1210
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 3: day negotiation period when teams are allowed to approach other players.

1211
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:39,640
Speaker 1: Jack, you were at the combine, and my understanding is,

1212
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 1: and we never know what these things sometimes until well

1213
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 1: after the fact, but I have read or heard at

1214
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:48,799
Speaker 1: least that this is thought to be a decent draft.

1215
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 1: Four receivers when you Omar Cooper Junior, the kid out

1216
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 1: of Lawrence North and Indiana, and Elijah Surratt out of Indiana,

1217
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 1: both were really good players for Bernanda Mendoza, and we

1218
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 1: in Indiana assume that that means they're going to be

1219
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 1: really good NBA or excuse me, NFL players. But we're

1220
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 1: also here, so we have that bias. What was the

1221
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 1: narrative within the combine? Where do they seemingly slot? And

1222
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 1: is one of those guys, for example, somebody that can

1223
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 1: give depth to Indianapolis.

1224
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 3: Omar Cooper probably more higher thought of I think, with

1225
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 3: a higher ceiling. Whenever I saw Sarati, it's funny I

1226
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 3: saw Mini Michael Pittman, I just did.

1227
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 1: I would agree with that, like a big, tough over

1228
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: the middle guy that catches things, but not a breakaway

1229
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 1: guy right right right?

1230
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 3: And would they look at one of those guys? Again?

1231
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:44,640
Speaker 3: I think I would look at a receiver with that

1232
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 3: first pick in the second round whatever it is in

1233
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 3: early in the second round. So, but both of them

1234
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 3: are quality players. And again, if you get a draft

1235
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 3: pick the second round, third round, then you can't expect

1236
01:11:57,320 --> 01:12:00,560
Speaker 3: him to be a fifty catch guy right away. A

1237
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 3: veteran guy might give you more. So yeah, but I

1238
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 3: e to one. I wouldn't mind at all. Obviously different,

1239
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 3: different type of receivers. But both those guys are going

1240
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 3: to be really good players in the NFL, and a

1241
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 3: lot of time it depends on where you go, but

1242
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 3: sometimes you're just good enough. You're going to be good

1243
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 3: wherever you are.

1244
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 1: Mike Chapel will have all the coverage CBS four, WXI

1245
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 1: in Fox fifty nine as well on this busy day

1246
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 1: that inevitably is the entrance into a busy stretch here

1247
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 1: for Chapmin. We will continue to have them on. Chap

1248
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 1: appreciate the time as always. Thank you. All right, Mike

1249
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 1: Chapel joining us on the program. All right, so Eddie,

1250
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 1: I will let you kind of scour through and tell

1251
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 1: me if there's anything of note that we have missed

1252
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:49,759
Speaker 1: here so far today, because in the first we're literally

1253
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 1: we're doing the Furrald double flags, meaning that we're halfway

1254
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,639
Speaker 1: through here on the day, and already we have seen

1255
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 1: a flurry of activity at the outset of this race,

1256
01:12:58,960 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 1: so to speak.

1257
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 2: Right, yes, we certainly have some more on the Pittman front, Jake.

1258
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 2: The Pittsburgh Steelers are also giving him an extension three years,

1259
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 2: fifty nine billion dollars in total for Pittman, with the

1260
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 2: Steelers still know exact terms on what pick swaps or

1261
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 2: what the pick swap is between the Colts and the Steelers.

1262
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:22,600
Speaker 2: Amik Robertson, he's a cornerback, signs with the Commanders. Alexandeloni linebackers,

1263
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,839
Speaker 2: signs with the Bucks. Kenneth Gainville, who was with Pittsburgh

1264
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,879
Speaker 2: last year, signs a two year to go down to Tampa.

1265
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 2: There's a report out there that Mike Evans is receiving

1266
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 2: offers north of twenty seven million dollars per year right

1267
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 2: now as his free agency is starting to heat up

1268
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 2: a little bit. The Jets have been very active today

1269
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 2: with signing defensive free agents. A guy who I thought

1270
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 2: could have been potentially with the Indianapolis Colts just because

1271
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 2: of his ties with the Cincinnati Bengals and Louis and Rumo.

1272
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:54,719
Speaker 2: Joseph Asai one of those players. He's an edge rusher.

1273
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 2: I think he's twenty five years old. He also goes

1274
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 2: to the Jets. There has not been anything on the

1275
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 2: Tray Hendrickson front, no reports on Hey, these are the

1276
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 2: teams that have expressed interest or what his market is

1277
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 2: going to look like. Malik willis going to the Packers today. Yes,

1278
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 2: thank you from the Packers to the Dolphins, Isaiah likely

1279
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 2: from the Ravens to the Giants.

1280
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 1: Malik Willis is an intriguing name. Willis, Malik Willis is one,

1281
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 1: hang on a second, Malik Willis is one that to me.

1282
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,719
Speaker 1: The reason I'm intrigued by Malik Willis and the money

1283
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 1: he's gotten and his rising profile within this free agency

1284
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 1: is part of the level of play and appreciation that

1285
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:48,759
Speaker 1: was generated about Malik Willis this year was generated off

1286
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 1: of the tempered expectations about him because of the fact

1287
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 1: that when he in his first go rounde as a starter,

1288
01:14:56,040 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 1: he kind of failed to cement himself and then all

1289
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 1: of a sudden, in spots situations he played really well.

1290
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 1: Kudos to him in that regard, but then all of

1291
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 1: a sudden, it's like, Wow, this guy can play well.

1292
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 1: Canny or is it just proof that you better have

1293
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 1: really good players around him? And we only were judging

1294
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 1: it not based on what we were seeing, but based

1295
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 1: on our expectation of what we would see of him

1296
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 1: because of what we saw him as a young player.

1297
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 1: And then the other one you were going to mention,

1298
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips.

1299
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 2: He was one of those premier edge free agents with

1300
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:32,440
Speaker 2: the Dolphins, and then he got traded to the Eagles

1301
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:35,560
Speaker 2: four years, one hundred and twenty million dollars to the

1302
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers. Last week, the Los Angeles Rams traded for

1303
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 2: Trip McDuffie from the Kansas City Chiefs. They now signed

1304
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 2: the other starting quarterback from Kansas City last year, Jalen Watson.

1305
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 1: Earlier today as well. Oh, Kenneth Walker did the Chiefs

1306
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 1: as well. Kenneth Walker is the one that that just

1307
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 1: seems so perfect in an Andy Reid offense. Yeah, you

1308
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 1: know you can already see now some late December game.

1309
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:07,600
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahons is back. You're tired of the Chiefs. You

1310
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 1: think they're gonna lose. It's fourth and eight, a minute

1311
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 1: and a half to go, and then they draw up

1312
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 1: some like screen to Kenneth Walker and he gets a

1313
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 1: twelve yard gain and here we go.

1314
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 2: And if you care it all, Travis Kelsey is going

1315
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 2: back to the Chiefs for a fourteenth season.

1316
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 1: Probably still. I mean, isn't he another one though that

1317
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 1: you just automatically assume he's about to make a play. Yeah,

1318
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 1: we come back. We'll get you the schedule on a

1319
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 1: different sport, but of similar level of interest. Games and

1320
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 1: now we know in the games people play who they'll

1321
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 1: be playing. I'll explain what I'm talking about next. Okay,

1322
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,600
Speaker 1: here are the games that are getting ready to be

1323
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 1: played Dave Revsen tomorrow right basically off the top of

1324
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:53,680
Speaker 1: the show to get a set for the Big Ten

1325
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 1: Basketball Tournament Horizon League tonight semi finals at Corteva Coliseum

1326
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 1: that is at the Indiana State Fairgrounds. If I I

1327
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:07,879
Speaker 1: believe this is correct, Oakland and Robert Morris is the nightcap,

1328
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 1: Northern Kentucky and Wright State at seven o'clock tonight over

1329
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 1: at the coliseum. Big Ten Men's Tournament coming up in Chicago.

1330
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,879
Speaker 1: These are all of the things that we can discuss

1331
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 1: that and more, including the Alec Pierce signing Daniel Jones

1332
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 1: that I think is close. All of those things you

1333
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 1: can ask us about talk about. We can relive all

1334
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 1: of it at the golf outing taking place the Fan

1335
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 1: Invitational twenty twenty six Golf Outing on April thirtieth from

1336
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 1: ten thirty until five in the afternoon at Legends Golf

1337
01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:44,480
Speaker 1: Club that is down in Franklin. That is a wonderful

1338
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 1: golf facility. Believe you me, you want to talk state

1339
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 1: of the art that is state of the art. You

1340
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 1: two can go see where Bob Knight filmed some of

1341
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,879
Speaker 1: his golfing show by the way, enjoy eighteen holes of golf.

1342
01:17:57,080 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 1: And we will all be there as well as friends,

1343
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 1: Siscan Health and the Franciscan Health Foundation, because that is

1344
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 1: who we are helping out with this. But they are

1345
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 1: the ones that are the true helpers because they'll have

1346
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 1: health screenings there. They will answer your questions for you

1347
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 1: of different things. Maybe you know you want to go

1348
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 1: out and golf and you got a question that you

1349
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 1: don't necessarily want people to know that you're asking about

1350
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 1: it about your health. Then Franciscan is there for all

1351
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 1: of it and we look forward to all that. April thirtieth.

1352
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:26,679
Speaker 1: Information available one oh seven five the fan dot com. Eddie,

1353
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 1: we are going to play a fun game here you ready.

1354
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 1: I always love games with you, Jake, And if you

1355
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 1: have already looked us up, then just humor me, don't

1356
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 1: even admit that you have done so, and just play along. Okay.

1357
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,719
Speaker 1: Do you happen to have the ding and or buzzer

1358
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 1: sound effect? Uh? I am going to read to you

1359
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 1: the seeding the seed in the NCAA men's basketball tournament,

1360
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,800
Speaker 1: and without looking, I want you to tell me what

1361
01:18:57,920 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 1: team you think it is, and I will tell you

1362
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 1: whether it is Dan or a buzz. Are you ready? Okay,

1363
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 1: we'll begin with who is the sixth seed? The sixth seed?

1364
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 1: Don't look, it looks sixth seed. Show's over at three,

1365
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:11,679
Speaker 1: so boom, sixth seed? Go ahead.

1366
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, Yes, I don't know, Jake, I don't

1367
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:18,680
Speaker 2: like to get Wisconsin.

1368
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 1: Ucla is the sixth seed in the Big Ten men's tournament.

1369
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 1: There's a reason we're doing this. The five seed is Wisconsin,

1370
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 1: that is correct. The fourth seed in the Big Ten

1371
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:40,679
Speaker 1: men's basketball tournament Michigan State. Illinois is the fourth seed,

1372
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 1: third seeded Michigan State. The second seed is who Who

1373
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 1: is the number two seed? Finding line? I correct? Do

1374
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:58,639
Speaker 1: we skip over four Illinois? Fourth? Oh? Oh? Two would

1375
01:19:58,640 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 1: be Nebraska?

1376
01:19:59,280 --> 01:19:59,639
Speaker 3: Then right?

1377
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 1: Correct? And the number one seed is Michigan. Yeah. It

1378
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 1: is somewhat surreal to think that we did not mention

1379
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:13,559
Speaker 1: purdueing that the Boilers are the seven seed, and it

1380
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:17,760
Speaker 1: does feel like they're backpeddaling, no question about that. And

1381
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 1: when you look at Purdue's season in general and on

1382
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 1: a whole I think I don't know where this is

1383
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 1: going to go, to be honest with you, because it

1384
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:36,759
Speaker 1: is one that an open disclaimer. I mean, I felt

1385
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 1: for certain, like a lot of people, I felt like

1386
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year that they I'm not

1387
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 1: going to say they were a slam dunk coming in

1388
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 1: today's college basketball, you would be a fool to say that,

1389
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:57,760
Speaker 1: but it felt to me like they were an absolute

1390
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 1: front running contender for the Final four, not just the

1391
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 1: Big Ten, but the Final four. And I don't know,

1392
01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 1: you know, Oscar Cluff has been a good player for them,

1393
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 1: but he looks at this point like he could use

1394
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 1: a John Riggins oxygen tank at any time. And I

1395
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:20,720
Speaker 1: think learning how to play with Trey Kaufman Wren was

1396
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 1: a challenge for Purdue and Trey Coupman Wrenn learning how

1397
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 1: to play with him. But that is a team with you,

1398
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 1: with Braden Smith and Fletcher Lawyer and obviously Trey Kaupman Wren.

1399
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 1: Here's what I love about Purdue. Has Purdue fallen short

1400
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 1: this year so far? Maybe can they salvage that? Still? Sure?

1401
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 1: But at its core in a world where college basketball

1402
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:53,679
Speaker 1: and nil you heard Don Fisher talking about it earlier,

1403
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 1: the difficulties, the challenges, the unfair and unreasonable fan expectation,

1404
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 1: the the consistent transfer portal, big dollar nil money, grab

1405
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 1: me first era of college athletics overall, and look at

1406
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:16,679
Speaker 1: Trey Kopp and Rehn and before him Caleb First. Caleb

1407
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 1: First to me is so impressive because here was in Indiana,

1408
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 1: mister basketball, a big time recruit, goes to Purdue, gets

1409
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 1: tons of minutes early, Zach Edy develops well beyond anybody's expectation,

1410
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 1: and the spotlight the minutes and everything starts. Then moving

1411
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 1: away from Caleb First, who was completely content with continuing

1412
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:40,680
Speaker 1: to play, doing anything he had to to win for

1413
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:43,720
Speaker 1: his team, and getting a degree and then going to

1414
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 1: and I'm assuming he's in med school. I know that

1415
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 1: was the narrative or the discussion of what he was

1416
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:55,600
Speaker 1: expected to do. And I like what Darren Devrees is

1417
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 1: building in Indiana. I do. I do think that he's

1418
01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 1: a good coach and that is a team in Indiana

1419
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 1: that you can talk about their falling short this year,

1420
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 1: but I think they've gotten the most out of themselves

1421
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 1: from a talent standpoint, and they seemingly get along, play hard,

1422
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:15,679
Speaker 1: and don't misrepresent their university. And I have the utmost

1423
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 1: respect for Purdue, who will open the Big Ten Tournament

1424
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 1: again against the winner on Thursday is Produe's next game,

1425
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 1: they will play the winner of Indiana, and then Indiana

1426
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 1: plays the winner of Northwestern Penn State, and they'll go

1427
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 1: into it and you'll say, this is a team that

1428
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 1: has fallen short this year of where we thought they'd

1429
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 1: be because they're the seventh seed in the Big Ten Tournament.

1430
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 1: But then you hear Trey Kaufman Wren just talk about

1431
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 1: college basketball today and being an elder statesman on a

1432
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 1: program where he stayed at Purdue, and I just thought

1433
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 1: what he said was great.

1434
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:56,680
Speaker 5: You know, as a kid our age and then you know,

1435
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 5: eighteen nineteen year old's just the level of if they

1436
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 5: can have just some understanding of the level of uh,

1437
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 5: you know, growth that you experience with you know, the

1438
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 5: guys on your team and how much you learn, you know,

1439
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:10,759
Speaker 5: just you know, being a human being, being a person.

1440
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 5: You know, going to different schools and for for you know,

1441
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:21,439
Speaker 5: paychecks for for for different things. You know, you're right,

1442
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 5: you may get more money, but you know, how much

1443
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 5: like what are we putting? What's the dollar amount on

1444
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 5: on the on the relationships that I've built. You know,

1445
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,600
Speaker 5: what's the dollar amount on you know, the values that

1446
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 5: that I've learned. Like, I mean, for for me, it's

1447
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:39,600
Speaker 5: an easy it's an easy thing. So I just you know,

1448
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 5: I think it's more of a value thing at this point.

1449
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 5: You know, you'd hope that the younger guys and then

1450
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 5: you know their parents are teaching them the right thing.

1451
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 1: I just think it that is such a mature viewpoint,

1452
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 1: advantage point, and you know the value of the relationships.

1453
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:07,680
Speaker 1: And there is some truth perhaps to the fact that

1454
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:11,719
Speaker 1: Purdue's has been compromised. You know, is there some sort

1455
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:15,640
Speaker 1: of chemistry challenge that comes with everyone knowing that this

1456
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 1: player is getting this amount and this player's not, and

1457
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 1: this player was shopping around or asking around for this

1458
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 1: versus that maybe Jake, you have siblings, right, I do.

1459
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 1: I'm the youngest of three.

1460
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 2: Did you ever make them, Matt, Yes, because a you

1461
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 2: would like take too long in the shower in the

1462
01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 2: morning because to get ready, or you kind of delayed

1463
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 2: their process.

1464
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 1: Well, I'm the youngest of two. I have two older sisters,

1465
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 1: so you can imagine the shower time deviation. But I

1466
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 1: will tell you this the song Reunited by Peaches and Herb.

1467
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 1: I broke my sister's forty five when I was a kid,

1468
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:50,679
Speaker 1: and it did not go well.

1469
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 2: But that just kind of what it feels like with

1470
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 2: Purdue is like they've all been together for so long.

1471
01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 1: Correct, I would agree, Like you just start.

1472
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 2: Getting into like these picky things because you're just so

1473
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 2: used to one another, and eventually you just kind of

1474
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 2: get frustrated.

1475
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 1: Yes, I think that's very accurate. And you know, there's

1476
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 1: like anything else, Eddie. If you have a young team

1477
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:16,720
Speaker 1: that's not played around each other a lot, you get

1478
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 1: hostility because people don't know or understand the tendencies of

1479
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:23,320
Speaker 1: the other. Then you get a veteran team that's been

1480
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 1: around each other too much, and exactly that comes into play.

1481
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 1: You got to find that sweet spot, right, Yeah.

1482
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, you know, you

1483
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:35,799
Speaker 2: and your two sisters and Purdue and Braden Smith, Trey Kaufman,

1484
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 2: Wrenn and Fletcher Lawyer, they'll all get come back together,

1485
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:40,640
Speaker 2: get it figured out at the end of the day.

1486
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 1: You would hope, You would hope, and you know now's

1487
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 1: the time to do it though, for certain, no question

1488
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:48,719
Speaker 1: about that, all Right, figuring it out and siblings working

1489
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 1: with one another. Is it possible the Colts are on

1490
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 1: the precipice now of finding out that for the next

1491
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 1: three to four years, that's exactly going to be the

1492
01:26:57,400 --> 01:27:01,719
Speaker 1: case with two of the big ones. We'll explain Eddie.

1493
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 1: What time just out of curiosity, not that it's any

1494
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 1: of my business, but you worked the pacer game late, right?

1495
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:07,680
Speaker 4: Uh huh?

1496
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 1: I was here until one am and then you messaged

1497
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 1: me and I said that. I was like, yeah, you're

1498
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 1: not going to believe this, but I was flipping through

1499
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 1: last night and noticed that something about Mary was there

1500
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 1: and so and you had not seen it yet. I

1501
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 1: mentioned it to you on Friday and the next thing

1502
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:24,600
Speaker 1: I know, you're watching it. So what time did you

1503
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 1: actually turn in last night?

1504
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:28,599
Speaker 2: Well, that conversation started by me texting you that fast

1505
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 2: time the Ridgemond High is back on Peacock and he

1506
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:33,559
Speaker 2: told me you were watching something.

1507
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 1: There's something about Mary. Let's say it was after three

1508
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:43,640
Speaker 1: in the morning. But you did you watch it solo? Yeah?

1509
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:45,400
Speaker 1: But you did enjoy it? Right? It was good?

1510
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay?

1511
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:52,880
Speaker 1: What about when when Tucker puts his hat on and

1512
01:27:52,920 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 1: he doesn't Yeah, Okay, we got to the fact that

1513
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 1: the Big Ten tournament is getting underway up in Chicago.

1514
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 1: We also have some tickets to give away for the

1515
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 1: NCAA Final Four fan Fest April third through the sixth,

1516
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 1: and that is of course where you can go through.

1517
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 1: It is very cool because it celebrates the history of

1518
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 1: the Final Four, celebrity appearances, athlete appearances, autograph signings, all

1519
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 1: of that taking place at the Final Four fan Fest

1520
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 1: from the Indiana Sports Corp. We will give those tickets

1521
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 1: away coming up in just a couple of minutes. But

1522
01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 1: the big news of the day, and we will be

1523
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 1: talking about this primarily in the two o'clock hour. Alec

1524
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:48,679
Speaker 1: Pierce agreeing to terms with the Colts earlier today, a

1525
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 1: four year deal worth one hundred and fourteen million dollars,

1526
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 1: with some conflicting reports on what the guaranteed is, but

1527
01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 1: now it appears. Initially they said eight. Then there is

1528
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 1: some thought that it is a sixty million dollar guarantee

1529
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:08,720
Speaker 1: upon signing, but an eighty million dollar guarantee in the

1530
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:14,639
Speaker 1: lifetime of the contract itself. But either way, and you'll

1531
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 1: hear me say this in the two o'clock hour today

1532
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 1: is Monday, is today the ninth.

1533
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:25,760
Speaker 2: Today is the ninth, Yes, and it is Monday. Can

1534
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 2: confirm of March.

1535
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 1: I will be stunned when we go on the air

1536
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 1: on Wednesday, which will be the day that Indiana will

1537
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 1: be previewing Indiana in the Big Ten tournament. For example,

1538
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 1: if and when we go on the air on not

1539
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 1: if and when I mean I hopefully definitely if we're

1540
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 1: on the air. But but when we go on the

1541
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:01,920
Speaker 1: air on Wednesday, by then we will already have news

1542
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:09,680
Speaker 1: that Daniel Jones has agreed to a term with the Colts.

1543
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 1: Because I just, I truly, I don't see any way.

1544
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:21,160
Speaker 1: I'll put it to you in the form of a question,

1545
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:28,160
Speaker 1: Eddie Garrison. Okay, if you are Alec Pierce, and I

1546
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:32,040
Speaker 1: know that you have Daniel Jones for one year, if

1547
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 1: no one makes him an offer sheet that the Colts

1548
01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:42,599
Speaker 1: don't match. But if you are Alec Pierce, yep, what

1549
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:48,640
Speaker 1: reason do you have to commit to Indianapolis unless you

1550
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:52,840
Speaker 1: know for a fact that for the three years that

1551
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 1: you are signing or the four years that you are signing,

1552
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:58,760
Speaker 1: that you are going to have who you a known

1553
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:00,719
Speaker 1: into a quarterback.

1554
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:03,479
Speaker 2: The only way I think you do that is if

1555
01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:08,200
Speaker 2: you either really really really like it.

1556
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 1: Here, right, that's the only other or the money.

1557
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 2: And if the money was the case, there are reports

1558
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:19,639
Speaker 2: out there that the commanders offered over thirty million dollars

1559
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 2: a year.

1560
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:22,840
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. He could have gotten the money elsewhere, right,

1561
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:34,040
Speaker 1: he would have gotten the money elsewhere. And so that's

1562
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:41,920
Speaker 1: the thing to me, I'm like, Okay, you know, Alec

1563
01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 1: Pierce only agreed to this if he knew that Daniel

1564
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:48,720
Speaker 1: Jones is going to be there. I firmly believe that.

1565
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 1: And now the other thing is this, Could it be

1566
01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:56,880
Speaker 1: that the Colts looked at it and said, okay, for

1567
01:31:57,000 --> 01:32:01,479
Speaker 1: Alec Pierce, and for his standpoint, we're getting ready to

1568
01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 1: go into a situation where he has been transitioned tagged,

1569
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:07,360
Speaker 1: meaning that somebody else he is free to go talk

1570
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:10,559
Speaker 1: to somebody else and get himself a better offer. But

1571
01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:13,960
Speaker 1: did they say, you know what, let's get Alec Pierce done.

1572
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:16,639
Speaker 1: Did they work one with the other, Let's get Alec

1573
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 1: Pierce done so that we can then go to Daniel Jones.

1574
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:23,320
Speaker 1: And maybe he's willing to sign for not necessarily some

1575
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:28,559
Speaker 1: wholesale bargain price, but he doesn't go aggressively to the

1576
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 1: negotiating table with others because he knows that Alec Pierce

1577
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:40,760
Speaker 1: is here and there's familiarity. So they basically said to Pierce, look,

1578
01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 1: we promise you you signed here, Jones is going to

1579
01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:44,880
Speaker 1: be your guy. And then they went to Jones and said,

1580
01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:47,559
Speaker 1: you might as well sign here because Pierce is here

1581
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 1: and ready to be your guy, and by to boom,

1582
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:54,639
Speaker 1: by a bang, there you go. But I would be stunned.

1583
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:57,519
Speaker 1: I'm going to predicts by tomorrow, I'm going to predict

1584
01:32:57,520 --> 01:32:59,799
Speaker 1: that while do you happen to have Eddie the breaking

1585
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 1: new sounder, I'm going to predict that that's what we're

1586
01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:11,000
Speaker 1: going to be playing tomorrow at some point, because we're

1587
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:16,479
Speaker 1: going to announce that it's a done deal and that

1588
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:18,479
Speaker 1: Jones is in the mix.

1589
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 2: Do you think the Colts would discuss the contract with

1590
01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:28,240
Speaker 2: Kyler murraydall kind of feel it out to see, like, hey,

1591
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 2: how much are you thinking here?

1592
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:34,800
Speaker 1: I mean, do I think they will now or do

1593
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:37,560
Speaker 1: I think they would have? Maybe maybe you say to

1594
01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:39,840
Speaker 1: Alex Pierce, look, it's going to be Jones or Murray.

1595
01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:41,880
Speaker 1: We're not sure which one, but are you happy with that?

1596
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:44,960
Speaker 2: Because even though they have applied the transition tag onto

1597
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:49,320
Speaker 2: Eniel Jones. They can rescind it, correct and just say

1598
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:51,679
Speaker 2: all right and make him an unrestricted free agent.

1599
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:52,719
Speaker 1: Correct.

1600
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:58,559
Speaker 2: Although Stephen Holder of ESPN, scenes are pretty likely that

1601
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:02,479
Speaker 2: uh Dan new Jones will be a cult was the

1602
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:03,840
Speaker 2: direct quote.

1603
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:12,760
Speaker 1: I I think it's I'm not gonna say it's a

1604
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 1: done deal. You never say that, but I'd be stunned

1605
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:18,640
Speaker 1: if it's not. But there's other news to get to

1606
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:21,320
Speaker 1: with the Colts that does not involve the quarterback and

1607
01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:26,760
Speaker 1: the wide receiver. Kind of we will get into that,

1608
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:30,200
Speaker 1: and we will give away tickets for the afore mentioned

1609
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:33,200
Speaker 1: fan fest for the final four. Will do all of

1610
01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:36,760
Speaker 1: that within the next thirty It is two o'clock on

1611
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:41,200
Speaker 1: a Monday. My name is Jake Query. Eddie Garrison the

1612
01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 1: other voice hear on this program. It's Querying Company here

1613
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five the fan.

1614
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:50,759
Speaker 1: All right, let's get you caught up on this day

1615
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:55,840
Speaker 1: of NFL news. And it is newsy to say the least.

1616
01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:59,439
Speaker 1: But we will begin from a Colt's standpoint, and we'll

1617
01:34:59,479 --> 01:35:03,240
Speaker 1: go kind of in backward order, if that makes sense.

1618
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:13,040
Speaker 1: Four starters, Zire Franklin, their linebacker over the last few years,

1619
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:15,840
Speaker 1: of course, who has been a captain and been a

1620
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:19,240
Speaker 1: leader and kind of a quarterback of that defense. I

1621
01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:23,200
Speaker 1: think we knew that just based on the production dwindling

1622
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:26,320
Speaker 1: a little bit. He's twenty nine years old, so he's approaching,

1623
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:29,120
Speaker 1: you know, I think usually thirty one thirty two is

1624
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:32,280
Speaker 1: when you started going. I don't know, but Zire Franklin

1625
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 1: traded over the weekend to green Bay. Now he is

1626
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:39,400
Speaker 1: traded for a younger player, twenty five year old who

1627
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 1: from green Bay comes in as basically a run stopper.

1628
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:51,200
Speaker 1: Sixteen starts in sixteen games last year, correct, Eddie, Sixteen starts, Yes,

1629
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:55,960
Speaker 1: And this is not somebody Grover Stewart. And this is

1630
01:35:55,960 --> 01:36:02,120
Speaker 1: what's intriguing to me. Grover Stewart is, I believe, entering

1631
01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:04,200
Speaker 1: the last year of his contract, has been a really

1632
01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:06,519
Speaker 1: good player. Yep. Twelve and a half million is the

1633
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:10,760
Speaker 1: cap hit. And I would imagine for in Grovert Stewart's case,

1634
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:13,040
Speaker 1: you know, we'll see whether or not this is an

1635
01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:19,439
Speaker 1: insurance policy. That would surprise me because I think when

1636
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:23,920
Speaker 1: you look at Grover Stewart, he's he's been a well

1637
01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:29,439
Speaker 1: liked but very very productive player, very productive player, but

1638
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:32,879
Speaker 1: Colby Wooden is twenty five years old, he's out of Auburn,

1639
01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:36,320
Speaker 1: and he's not anybody that jumps out and astounds you

1640
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:41,000
Speaker 1: in terms of his stats. But he is certainly, you know,

1641
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:44,080
Speaker 1: competent six four two seventy five, bigger body. I don't

1642
01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:46,200
Speaker 1: know that you would list him necessarily as a pass

1643
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:49,719
Speaker 1: rush specialist, but that's what they're getting in that regard.

1644
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:53,320
Speaker 1: So Zaire Franklin now already with his thank you to Indianapolis,

1645
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:57,200
Speaker 1: he is on his way to Green Bay. Then you

1646
01:36:57,280 --> 01:37:00,000
Speaker 1: start taking a look at okay, what about the offense

1647
01:37:02,439 --> 01:37:08,080
Speaker 1: and what about the quarterback situation? And I mentioned off

1648
01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:11,880
Speaker 1: the top of the show, and believe you me, I

1649
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:18,559
Speaker 1: had literally an award winning Marconi esque like going to

1650
01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:21,600
Speaker 1: go down in history, put me in the Indiana Broadcaster

1651
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:26,400
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame level soliloquy about all of this today.

1652
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:29,000
Speaker 1: But a funny thing happened, and that's what happens in

1653
01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:36,639
Speaker 1: life itself. I had this big monologue ready about how

1654
01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:40,559
Speaker 1: the Daniel Jones injury might actually have saved Chris Ballard.

1655
01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:44,320
Speaker 1: And the reason for that, or the reason I was

1656
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:46,880
Speaker 1: thinking that, is because when you really break it down,

1657
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:51,680
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard in his time as a general manager of

1658
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:58,400
Speaker 1: the Colts, a decade uh playoff win, he had a

1659
01:37:58,479 --> 01:38:02,800
Speaker 1: quarterback retire on him, and that quarterback in Andrew Luck.

1660
01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:05,400
Speaker 1: You know, there probably is some truth that Andrew Lux

1661
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:09,160
Speaker 1: that retirement was as much on Andrew Luck as anybody.

1662
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:12,559
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck's decision to the way he played, to not

1663
01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 1: step out of bounds, to try to lower the shoulder,

1664
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:18,320
Speaker 1: to hang in the pocket too long, to snowboard, all

1665
01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:23,280
Speaker 1: of those things. But either way, in the quarterbacking game,

1666
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:30,040
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard seemingly had multiple quarterbacks where injuries just changed

1667
01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:37,800
Speaker 1: the narrative and the game plan. They had veteran quarterbacks

1668
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:41,559
Speaker 1: that got dinged up. They signed one guy in Carson

1669
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:43,760
Speaker 1: Wentz that like this was going to be the long

1670
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:45,920
Speaker 1: term answer, and then it turned out like the owner

1671
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:48,680
Speaker 1: didn't like him. You had, you know, just on and

1672
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:54,679
Speaker 1: on and on Anthony Richardson their big project. And yes,

1673
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:58,679
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson had a lot of faults in his own right,

1674
01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:02,040
Speaker 1: but at the same time, he was stunted as well

1675
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:04,840
Speaker 1: by the fact that he couldn't stay healthy. Sometimes his fault,

1676
01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:10,559
Speaker 1: sometimes not. And I began to think about the fact

1677
01:39:10,600 --> 01:39:14,320
Speaker 1: that when you look at the situation of Daniel Jones

1678
01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:18,000
Speaker 1: going into a free agency period with his contract up.

1679
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:22,879
Speaker 1: Maybe health has been the Achilles heel of the Colts

1680
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:27,320
Speaker 1: forever at the quarterback spot, but maybe, just maybe, for once,

1681
01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:31,799
Speaker 1: you actually had a situation where an achilles injury helped

1682
01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:39,639
Speaker 1: them because the Colts knew going into the year. Let's say,

1683
01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:44,519
Speaker 1: for the sake of the discussion, that Daniel Jones had

1684
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:49,400
Speaker 1: never gotten hurt. And let's say that the seven and

1685
01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:52,200
Speaker 1: one Colts or the eight and two Colts were the

1686
01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:57,160
Speaker 1: reality of what they were, and that's the trajectory they

1687
01:39:57,160 --> 01:39:59,000
Speaker 1: were headed. And they get into the playoffs, and let's

1688
01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:02,720
Speaker 1: say they win a playoff game, maybe even two. In

1689
01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:06,080
Speaker 1: that case, Alec Pierce probably would have been a slam

1690
01:40:06,160 --> 01:40:08,760
Speaker 1: dunk to resign because who would have left that situation?

1691
01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:11,000
Speaker 1: And he looks at the fact Daniel Jones was thrown

1692
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:13,479
Speaker 1: in the ball and he's like, let's go. But you

1693
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:17,960
Speaker 1: still had the obstacle of signing Jones and retaining him. Now,

1694
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:24,280
Speaker 1: in this little hypothetical we're doing Daniel Jones if he

1695
01:40:24,360 --> 01:40:27,120
Speaker 1: was coming off a season where he continued the way

1696
01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:29,000
Speaker 1: that he had before the injury, and he had not

1697
01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:31,760
Speaker 1: gotten hurt and they had won a playoff game or two,

1698
01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:36,960
Speaker 1: his price would have been astronomical. Life's all about timing,

1699
01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:42,400
Speaker 1: and in this situation that I'm thankful that you're giving

1700
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:45,960
Speaker 1: me the time to spell out for you. In that situation,

1701
01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:50,519
Speaker 1: in that timing, Daniel Jones would have walked into it

1702
01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:54,439
Speaker 1: and said, I'm the top free agent quarterback, partially because

1703
01:40:54,439 --> 01:40:57,160
Speaker 1: it's a dry year for quarterbacks in free agency, but

1704
01:40:57,240 --> 01:40:59,400
Speaker 1: also because of what I'm coming off of the year

1705
01:40:59,439 --> 01:41:02,920
Speaker 1: of production that I just had. And so he would

1706
01:41:02,920 --> 01:41:05,519
Speaker 1: have been able to go in and say, I want

1707
01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:08,719
Speaker 1: a four year deal, minimum two hundred million total contract.

1708
01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:12,720
Speaker 1: And you could say that sounds absurd, except for that

1709
01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:16,000
Speaker 1: the franchise tag, which the Colts probably would have been

1710
01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:19,960
Speaker 1: forced to slap on him at that point, was in

1711
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:23,719
Speaker 1: itself worth forty seven million per year for the year.

1712
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:29,040
Speaker 1: And in that situation, Ballard would have been kind of

1713
01:41:29,120 --> 01:41:31,200
Speaker 1: at a rock and a hard place because if he

1714
01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:35,800
Speaker 1: signs Daniel Jones for fifty to fifty two million per year,

1715
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:40,240
Speaker 1: and that's what it would have taken to get him here,

1716
01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 1: he would have been doing so a to cement that

1717
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:46,759
Speaker 1: he gets Alec Pierce and b because it's the top

1718
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:49,040
Speaker 1: free agent quarterback out there and the coming off of

1719
01:41:49,080 --> 01:41:51,360
Speaker 1: playoff winner two and the whole city's in love with

1720
01:41:51,439 --> 01:41:54,880
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. But if it goes south at all, and

1721
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:58,280
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, as he started to do this year, don't forget,

1722
01:41:58,520 --> 01:42:00,880
Speaker 1: started to regress a little bit and Pittsburgh through that

1723
01:42:00,920 --> 01:42:03,360
Speaker 1: blueprint on how to beat him. If those things started

1724
01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:05,479
Speaker 1: to rear their ugly head, then you're really in a

1725
01:42:05,479 --> 01:42:08,080
Speaker 1: pickle because you got a quarterback that you grossly overpaid

1726
01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:10,639
Speaker 1: and asked the giants how you get out of that situation,

1727
01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:20,440
Speaker 1: or the other scenario would have been that they basically

1728
01:42:20,800 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 1: get into a situation where they're like, we can't afford

1729
01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:25,360
Speaker 1: to pay that kind of money, and then you lose him.

1730
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:28,040
Speaker 1: You're damned if you're due, and you damned if you don't.

1731
01:42:29,439 --> 01:42:33,439
Speaker 1: But the injury avoided all of that. But what we

1732
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:37,080
Speaker 1: found out earlier today was that even with the injury

1733
01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:40,320
Speaker 1: avoiding that predicament of rock and a hard place, there

1734
01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:50,120
Speaker 1: still was something presented to Chris Ballard because it appears

1735
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:53,080
Speaker 1: as though they were willing to give him Sam Darnold money.

1736
01:42:53,120 --> 01:42:55,599
Speaker 1: They were willing to give him money of say, three

1737
01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:59,000
Speaker 1: year and one hundred million and Jones's camp came back

1738
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:03,360
Speaker 1: and said, we want, we still want fifty million per year. Now,

1739
01:43:03,640 --> 01:43:06,720
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, I don't think was realistically saying that he

1740
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:10,599
Speaker 1: expected fifty million. But if he knew the Colts were

1741
01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:14,400
Speaker 1: paying forty or we're going to possibly have to pay

1742
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:17,719
Speaker 1: forty seven million in a franchise tag and if they've

1743
01:43:17,760 --> 01:43:21,040
Speaker 1: transition tagged him at thirty seven million, then you're saying, Okay,

1744
01:43:21,240 --> 01:43:24,240
Speaker 1: if they're transition tagging me at thirty seven million, they're

1745
01:43:24,280 --> 01:43:28,639
Speaker 1: probably willing to pay forty five. And if they're willing

1746
01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:30,840
Speaker 1: to pay forty five, I'm just gonna throw fifty out

1747
01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:33,599
Speaker 1: there and then maybe we settle on, say forty two.

1748
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:38,640
Speaker 1: It's still pretty hepty cash, right, And during all of

1749
01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:43,160
Speaker 1: that negotiation, the news comes out earlier today Alec Pierce

1750
01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:45,240
Speaker 1: agrees to a four year deal for one hundred and

1751
01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:50,800
Speaker 1: fourteen million. Looks like eighty million is guaranteed. Sixty million

1752
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:55,400
Speaker 1: right there the day he signs it. Sixty million guaranteed

1753
01:43:55,720 --> 01:44:02,080
Speaker 1: the day he signs it. And I truly believe this.

1754
01:44:04,240 --> 01:44:10,400
Speaker 1: If Alec Pierce is the number one wide receiver in

1755
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:13,439
Speaker 1: this class of free agents at wide receiver, and I

1756
01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:17,120
Speaker 1: think he is and it's not a great wide receiver class.

1757
01:44:17,800 --> 01:44:24,760
Speaker 1: It's not. But if Alec Pierce is in a situation

1758
01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:26,599
Speaker 1: where he goes into it and he looks at it,

1759
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:28,519
Speaker 1: and he's signing with the Colts for four year, one

1760
01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:32,599
Speaker 1: hundred and fourteen million, and he's the number one receiver

1761
01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:35,200
Speaker 1: out there, and he can get whatever amount he basically

1762
01:44:35,240 --> 01:44:38,200
Speaker 1: wants from any team, and there are teams like Washington

1763
01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:40,720
Speaker 1: that were willing to give him thirty to thirty five

1764
01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:47,120
Speaker 1: million per year. In that scenario, it's in Alec Pierce's

1765
01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:50,040
Speaker 1: best interest to see what's out there. But Alec Pierce

1766
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:53,200
Speaker 1: made it very clear that there were two things that

1767
01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:58,880
Speaker 1: he was looking towards for his free agency. One is

1768
01:44:58,920 --> 01:45:02,679
Speaker 1: a team that will target him somewhere in the area

1769
01:45:03,280 --> 01:45:06,840
Speaker 1: of one hundred catches or one hundred targets I should

1770
01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:14,599
Speaker 1: say in a season. Okay, okay, fine. So the other

1771
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:19,000
Speaker 1: is the quarterback. And he made it very clear that

1772
01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:21,240
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is the guy that he was hoping would

1773
01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:24,320
Speaker 1: be and he wanted assurance that Daniel Jones was going

1774
01:45:24,360 --> 01:45:29,880
Speaker 1: to be his quarterback. I'm not talking t O crying,

1775
01:45:30,200 --> 01:45:34,880
Speaker 1: you know, Tony Romo, that's my quarterback level stuff. But

1776
01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:42,720
Speaker 1: there is no way, in my opinion, no way that

1777
01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:46,160
Speaker 1: Alec Pierce signs that deal or agrees to it today

1778
01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:50,200
Speaker 1: without assurance from either Daniel Jones or the Colts that

1779
01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:54,000
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is going to be the long term quarterback yere.

1780
01:45:54,840 --> 01:45:56,639
Speaker 1: And when I say long term, I mean beyond one

1781
01:45:56,680 --> 01:46:01,360
Speaker 1: year transition tag Alec Pierce, I am prepared to say

1782
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:06,559
Speaker 1: this right now, and I will gladly go out and

1783
01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:11,559
Speaker 1: willingly I should say, eat cro not literally, but do

1784
01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:14,760
Speaker 1: whatever to admit I'm wrong if I'm proven wrong here.

1785
01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:23,120
Speaker 1: But this tells me emphatically that Alec Pierce knows or

1786
01:46:23,160 --> 01:46:26,439
Speaker 1: has been assured that Daniel Jones is about to agree

1787
01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:30,720
Speaker 1: to a deal with the Colts. And all of the

1788
01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:33,720
Speaker 1: hypothetical and all of the monologue and all of the

1789
01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:36,200
Speaker 1: soliloquy and all of the marconis that were going to

1790
01:46:36,240 --> 01:46:39,519
Speaker 1: come because I'm talking about how the injury changed things

1791
01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:41,439
Speaker 1: for the Colts and might have saved them and whatever

1792
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:44,120
Speaker 1: else is all about to go out the window, because,

1793
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:50,080
Speaker 1: no question about it, Daniel Jones were about to find

1794
01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:56,040
Speaker 1: out has some sort of an agreement right now with

1795
01:46:56,120 --> 01:46:58,519
Speaker 1: the Colts, or is about to get one now, Eddie.

1796
01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:01,719
Speaker 1: That's not the only thing that is taken place, because

1797
01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:05,360
Speaker 1: we also know there has been other activity. Michael Pittman

1798
01:47:05,439 --> 01:47:08,479
Speaker 1: Junior is on his way to Pittsburgh. They traded for

1799
01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:12,880
Speaker 1: the Colts wide receiver, seemingly freeing up money for Indianapolis yep.

1800
01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:16,000
Speaker 1: And in doing that, they not only are getting Michael Pittman,

1801
01:47:16,040 --> 01:47:20,160
Speaker 1: they extended him in Pittsburgh, but there is a trade swap,

1802
01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:23,600
Speaker 1: right Basically, they said to Pittsburgh, will will trade you

1803
01:47:23,680 --> 01:47:25,599
Speaker 1: a couple of draft picks if you can take Michael

1804
01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:28,680
Speaker 1: Pittman Junior. Because nothing against Michael Pittman Junior, but it

1805
01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:31,479
Speaker 1: puts them in a better salary cap situation, right.

1806
01:47:31,479 --> 01:47:33,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, And I don't think any team was going

1807
01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:36,040
Speaker 2: to pay him that twenty five million dollars he's due

1808
01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:36,559
Speaker 2: this season.

1809
01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:38,639
Speaker 1: And that's why you have to like kind of.

1810
01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:42,520
Speaker 2: Swallow your pride a little bit, take a late round pickswap,

1811
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:47,080
Speaker 2: as it has been reported. And I wonder how hard

1812
01:47:47,120 --> 01:47:49,960
Speaker 2: that was for Ballard because you heard what he said

1813
01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:51,559
Speaker 2: out the combine, You've heard what he set over the

1814
01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:54,439
Speaker 2: course of Pittman's career that he loves Michael Pittman Junior.

1815
01:47:54,520 --> 01:47:56,200
Speaker 2: He's one of his favorite players on the team just

1816
01:47:56,240 --> 01:47:58,920
Speaker 2: because the dude goes out there and as Chapel says,

1817
01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:01,320
Speaker 2: he's fight. He fights through everything, he plays through everything,

1818
01:48:01,320 --> 01:48:04,160
Speaker 2: He played through fractured back. Think about that just two

1819
01:48:04,240 --> 01:48:07,439
Speaker 2: years ago. And he's been a great, great member of

1820
01:48:07,439 --> 01:48:09,200
Speaker 2: the locker room for the Colts during this time. But

1821
01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:13,760
Speaker 2: this is an unprecedented time in the Ballard Arrow, Jake.

1822
01:48:13,840 --> 01:48:16,320
Speaker 2: We haven't really seen them have to dump off players

1823
01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:18,920
Speaker 2: to free up salary cap. We haven't seen them have

1824
01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:22,080
Speaker 2: to trade ty you're Franklin to alleviate some cap space

1825
01:48:22,280 --> 01:48:25,479
Speaker 2: or Michael Pittman Junior to alleviate cap space. And you

1826
01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:27,559
Speaker 2: have to think about this. I believe both of those

1827
01:48:27,560 --> 01:48:30,320
Speaker 2: guys were captains for the Colts. That's two captains, right

1828
01:48:30,360 --> 01:48:32,960
Speaker 2: of gone, That's right. So they're gonna have to find

1829
01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:35,520
Speaker 2: some new voices in the locker room of leadership.

1830
01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:40,320
Speaker 1: You know, this time of year can be interesting as well,

1831
01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:45,479
Speaker 1: because we see fluctuation of rosters around the league, and

1832
01:48:45,520 --> 01:48:48,320
Speaker 1: in particular for teams that we anticipate we're going to

1833
01:48:48,360 --> 01:48:53,479
Speaker 1: be like, for example, can you imagine Eddie, here's a

1834
01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:58,760
Speaker 1: good one for you of the teams in the AFC

1835
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:10,639
Speaker 1: South or the AFC in general, what midday radio show

1836
01:49:11,240 --> 01:49:14,479
Speaker 1: market would be the hardest to be doing a show

1837
01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:19,240
Speaker 1: right now, because you would just feel like your NFL

1838
01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:23,920
Speaker 1: franchise is impossible to nail down because every time they

1839
01:49:23,960 --> 01:49:28,880
Speaker 1: start to make headway, something changes or pulls them back

1840
01:49:28,960 --> 01:49:33,040
Speaker 1: into the vat of suck. And even if it's not

1841
01:49:33,160 --> 01:49:36,679
Speaker 1: their own fault, each time that they start to make headway,

1842
01:49:37,439 --> 01:49:40,840
Speaker 1: they get pulled into that vortex of mediocrity where they've

1843
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:43,960
Speaker 1: been living forever, and they have moments where it looks

1844
01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:46,720
Speaker 1: like it's all there for them, and then moments where

1845
01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:48,720
Speaker 1: it's like, oh gosh, we're back to square one.

1846
01:49:49,080 --> 01:49:52,800
Speaker 2: The Cleveland Browns, Yeah, but they just suck in general, right, Yeah,

1847
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:55,200
Speaker 2: but they had that stretch where they were starting to

1848
01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:57,000
Speaker 2: ascend and look like there are going to be a

1849
01:49:57,680 --> 01:49:59,600
Speaker 2: team that could coipee in the AFC North Urine in

1850
01:49:59,640 --> 01:50:02,959
Speaker 2: your at, and then they signed DeShawn Watson.

1851
01:50:03,120 --> 01:50:05,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that did not work out. Right. A lot about

1852
01:50:05,360 --> 01:50:10,000
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, Okay, that's a good one. Although Arizona, again,

1853
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:12,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, has there ever been like hope springing

1854
01:50:12,960 --> 01:50:14,519
Speaker 1: eternal in Arizona.

1855
01:50:14,760 --> 01:50:17,759
Speaker 2: Like Tennessee, would also be good in this category because

1856
01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:21,519
Speaker 2: they were competitive with Mike Grabel and then for whatever reason,

1857
01:50:21,600 --> 01:50:24,519
Speaker 2: that's good, that's not bad. The general manager gets in

1858
01:50:24,520 --> 01:50:26,479
Speaker 2: the way, he trades away Aj Brown. Next thing, you know,

1859
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:28,320
Speaker 2: the owner and Mike Rabel get into a tiff.

1860
01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:34,599
Speaker 1: That's not bad. I'm thinking Jacksonville. Because Jacksonville, you've been

1861
01:50:34,640 --> 01:50:38,000
Speaker 1: waiting forever for it to finally start working with Trevor Lawrence.

1862
01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:41,520
Speaker 1: They've gone through a series of coaches, which has been frustrating.

1863
01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:44,799
Speaker 1: Now they have a coach that is really good. Lawrence

1864
01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:49,240
Speaker 1: has seemingly found some consistency and started to show why

1865
01:50:49,280 --> 01:50:52,400
Speaker 1: there was so much praise about him, and they have

1866
01:50:52,479 --> 01:50:54,599
Speaker 1: a really good year. They could beat the playoffs. And

1867
01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:57,840
Speaker 1: now we find out and I know that he maybe

1868
01:50:57,960 --> 01:51:03,000
Speaker 1: hasn't had the level of consistent every day production that

1869
01:51:05,040 --> 01:51:07,240
Speaker 1: he showed as a younger player. But he is still

1870
01:51:07,240 --> 01:51:09,960
Speaker 1: an integral part and a comfort part for Lawrence. But

1871
01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:11,840
Speaker 1: Jacksonville loses a weapon today, right.

1872
01:51:12,160 --> 01:51:16,360
Speaker 2: Travis et In signs with the Saints four years, fifty

1873
01:51:16,360 --> 01:51:20,320
Speaker 2: two million dollars, so big money for New Orleans.

1874
01:51:20,360 --> 01:51:22,080
Speaker 1: In that running back room between he and.

1875
01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:26,000
Speaker 2: Alvin Kamara, you know, and that's his hometown, I think

1876
01:51:26,080 --> 01:51:29,240
Speaker 2: it is. Yeah, he's from Louisiana.

1877
01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:30,960
Speaker 1: Four year fifty two mil Man for a running back,

1878
01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:35,080
Speaker 1: and then Kenneth Walker got four or three years forty

1879
01:51:35,120 --> 01:51:38,760
Speaker 1: five million earlier today as well. So how old is

1880
01:51:38,840 --> 01:51:41,320
Speaker 1: etn etn's got to be? Let me look here, let

1881
01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:44,360
Speaker 1: me think. Is he twenty nine? I'm gonna say he's

1882
01:51:44,400 --> 01:51:50,120
Speaker 1: twenty nine. I'm gonna go with twenty seven. Oh wow,

1883
01:51:50,160 --> 01:51:52,439
Speaker 1: I was I was on the money. Is he twenty

1884
01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:57,640
Speaker 1: seven January twenty sixth, nineteen ninety nine. Okay, yeah, I

1885
01:51:58,200 --> 01:52:00,680
Speaker 1: would have guessed. But either way, there's a lot of

1886
01:52:00,720 --> 01:52:05,200
Speaker 1: mileage on there. I mean, it doesn't feel like but anyway,

1887
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:07,840
Speaker 1: So that's where things stand right now, and I agree

1888
01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:11,679
Speaker 1: with chat from earlier. Can we call this legal tampering?

1889
01:52:12,760 --> 01:52:16,040
Speaker 1: How is it legal tampering? I'm going to look up

1890
01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:19,200
Speaker 1: right now the definition of tampering. I'm going to guess

1891
01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:26,280
Speaker 1: that in the definition of tampering the word illegal or

1892
01:52:28,200 --> 01:52:31,720
Speaker 1: non scrupulous is mentioned in the actual definition.

1893
01:52:32,080 --> 01:52:35,040
Speaker 2: While you do that, Jake, you have to wonder as

1894
01:52:35,080 --> 01:52:41,080
Speaker 2: well with the Arizona Cardinals, they release Kyler Murray, they

1895
01:52:41,080 --> 01:52:44,960
Speaker 2: miss out on a leak. Willis are they now at

1896
01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:49,040
Speaker 2: the front of the line potentially for Anthony Richardson via trade.

1897
01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:53,479
Speaker 1: How you would feel that way?

1898
01:52:54,280 --> 01:52:56,280
Speaker 2: Or did they go to the retread route and say, hey,

1899
01:52:56,360 --> 01:52:58,920
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins, you want to come start for a year.

1900
01:53:01,240 --> 01:53:04,799
Speaker 1: Well, or just run it with Jakobe, Brissett, Gardner Minshew.

1901
01:53:07,240 --> 01:53:10,280
Speaker 2: I mean, if I'm let me ask you this, if

1902
01:53:10,280 --> 01:53:12,719
Speaker 2: I'm going the backup quarterback route, I probably would stick

1903
01:53:12,760 --> 01:53:13,280
Speaker 2: with Brissette.

1904
01:53:13,280 --> 01:53:17,280
Speaker 1: No, yes, I was gonna say, doesn't don't Kirk Cousins

1905
01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:20,400
Speaker 1: and Menshew feel like parallel moves to Brissett.

1906
01:53:21,880 --> 01:53:24,960
Speaker 2: Uh, Kirk Cousins, I don't know. He may be just

1907
01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:27,120
Speaker 2: slightly above Jacoby.

1908
01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:29,400
Speaker 1: I don't know by how much. It's a little more mobile.

1909
01:53:29,439 --> 01:53:33,360
Speaker 1: I mean said, doesn't that I think Kirk's a better

1910
01:53:33,439 --> 01:53:35,600
Speaker 1: pastor than Brissette. I would agree with that. He's a

1911
01:53:35,600 --> 01:53:36,960
Speaker 1: better pastor on the run than Brett.

1912
01:53:37,040 --> 01:53:39,920
Speaker 2: When I think you're splitting hairs when you're talking about

1913
01:53:39,920 --> 01:53:45,480
Speaker 2: in Arizona whatever, you know, the Desert sports, whatever, midday show.

1914
01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:52,799
Speaker 1: Oh, the midday out in Arizona, Chris and the Coyote. Okay, Oh,

1915
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:59,400
Speaker 1: Chris and Kaya mid Days on the Desert. I guarantee

1916
01:53:59,400 --> 01:53:59,960
Speaker 1: that's what it is.

1917
01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:01,439
Speaker 2: But it would also make sense for them to go

1918
01:54:01,479 --> 01:54:03,519
Speaker 2: after Richardson because it'd be the final year of that

1919
01:54:03,600 --> 01:54:06,920
Speaker 2: rookie deal and it could be a one year gap.

1920
01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:08,639
Speaker 2: If he's bad, you're going to be in a position

1921
01:54:08,760 --> 01:54:10,639
Speaker 2: to draft a quarterback high next year.

1922
01:54:11,160 --> 01:54:13,719
Speaker 1: Again, if he's.

1923
01:54:13,560 --> 01:54:15,519
Speaker 2: Good, then you like, hey man, we take a shout

1924
01:54:15,560 --> 01:54:17,080
Speaker 2: out and you want to stay around for a little bit.

1925
01:54:18,040 --> 01:54:24,120
Speaker 1: To tamper, to mess with something, usually for a bad reason.

1926
01:54:24,160 --> 01:54:29,280
Speaker 1: That doesn't sound like an official definition. That sounds like explent, okay, tamper,

1927
01:54:29,640 --> 01:54:32,440
Speaker 1: interfere with something in order to cause damage or make

1928
01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:37,800
Speaker 1: unauthorized alterations, unauthorized. That basically says illegal, right, unauthorized, But

1929
01:54:37,880 --> 01:54:41,280
Speaker 1: it's legal, so it's authorized, so it can't be tampering.

1930
01:54:41,640 --> 01:54:46,160
Speaker 1: Why are we calling it this? It's the open negotiation season.

1931
01:54:46,840 --> 01:54:49,640
Speaker 1: It's the year allowed to talk to other people's season. Right,

1932
01:54:51,440 --> 01:54:53,280
Speaker 1: swipe through and find out if it's a match, that's

1933
01:54:53,280 --> 01:54:57,520
Speaker 1: what season we're in. Have you ever met an Arizona

1934
01:54:57,560 --> 01:54:58,080
Speaker 1: Cardinal fan?

1935
01:54:58,200 --> 01:54:58,360
Speaker 3: Oh?

1936
01:54:58,360 --> 01:54:58,760
Speaker 1: Anywhere?

1937
01:54:58,840 --> 01:55:00,960
Speaker 2: Cody gives a good answer to your question from earlier.

1938
01:55:01,120 --> 01:55:02,760
Speaker 2: Jay can say the Atlanta Falcons.

1939
01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:04,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good one.

1940
01:55:04,760 --> 01:55:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, They've always got the flashy offensive player that Julia Jones.

1941
01:55:08,040 --> 01:55:11,400
Speaker 2: And now it's Bijon Robinson and Drake London twenty eighty

1942
01:55:11,400 --> 01:55:13,200
Speaker 2: three in the Super Bowl. But haven't good to end

1943
01:55:13,240 --> 01:55:19,520
Speaker 2: also and keep going up and down. That's good, honestly,

1944
01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:22,800
Speaker 2: is Arizona. We always talk about this.

1945
01:55:24,640 --> 01:55:26,720
Speaker 1: When I've mentioned to you, and it's one of the

1946
01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:29,040
Speaker 1: things that like I have this weird thing with but

1947
01:55:29,240 --> 01:55:32,880
Speaker 1: like obscure franchises or franchises that just seemingly not only

1948
01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:35,640
Speaker 1: don't have a fan base, but there's just no buzz

1949
01:55:35,680 --> 01:55:41,120
Speaker 1: about them whatsoever. The Arizona Cardinals are the only team

1950
01:55:41,160 --> 01:55:46,640
Speaker 1: in the NFL that fits that criteria right because the

1951
01:55:46,760 --> 01:55:52,400
Speaker 1: NFL is the eight hundred pound gorilla. It's totally ubiquitous,

1952
01:55:53,080 --> 01:55:56,120
Speaker 1: and I do think over the weekend, I asked a

1953
01:55:56,240 --> 01:55:59,560
Speaker 1: question on the expost Twitter that just simply said tell

1954
01:55:59,560 --> 01:56:06,200
Speaker 1: me your most unpopular opinion, and one person said the

1955
01:56:06,320 --> 01:56:09,400
Speaker 1: NFL is oversaturated now and needs to be all games

1956
01:56:09,400 --> 01:56:11,520
Speaker 1: on Sunday and one on Monday. And I thought, I've

1957
01:56:11,520 --> 01:56:13,680
Speaker 1: been saying that for a while. That's old men yelling

1958
01:56:13,680 --> 01:56:14,760
Speaker 1: at clouds, though, right.

1959
01:56:14,800 --> 01:56:17,680
Speaker 2: I wanted to reply on that and say that your

1960
01:56:17,760 --> 01:56:19,560
Speaker 2: love for yourself is unhealthy.

1961
01:56:21,040 --> 01:56:23,440
Speaker 1: I love me some me. I think it's very healthy.

1962
01:56:23,600 --> 01:56:25,160
Speaker 1: I think most people would tell you that's healthy.

1963
01:56:25,240 --> 01:56:25,400
Speaker 3: Right.

1964
01:56:26,360 --> 01:56:29,480
Speaker 1: There was some great level what's that not at your level?

1965
01:56:29,960 --> 01:56:33,160
Speaker 1: There were some great When you consider how much there

1966
01:56:33,200 --> 01:56:36,800
Speaker 1: is to love, it's actually a very healthy level. There

1967
01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:41,640
Speaker 1: were some great replies on that. But the in the

1968
01:56:41,720 --> 01:56:45,000
Speaker 1: NBA we'd mentioned like the Washington Wizards, the Sacramento Kings,

1969
01:56:45,280 --> 01:56:49,080
Speaker 1: you know, Baseball PI, like the Royals, the NFL, I

1970
01:56:49,120 --> 01:56:52,520
Speaker 1: feel like the only one is the Cardinals. Maybe the Jaguars,

1971
01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:55,760
Speaker 1: but the Cardinals for certain. Do you ever see anybody

1972
01:56:55,760 --> 01:57:05,240
Speaker 1: wearing cardinal gear on occasion where? On occasion where maybe

1973
01:57:05,240 --> 01:57:08,280
Speaker 1: if you're in Vegas because it's close to Arizona, well

1974
01:57:08,360 --> 01:57:12,360
Speaker 1: you may see the occasional Cardinal jersey around here because

1975
01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:16,840
Speaker 1: of Marvin Harrison Junior. Boy, that's a stretch though, I

1976
01:57:16,840 --> 01:57:18,800
Speaker 1: mean Edgrin played there, and I don't see anybody wearing

1977
01:57:18,840 --> 01:57:19,680
Speaker 1: an edge jersey.

1978
01:57:19,760 --> 01:57:23,080
Speaker 2: But that was after his cult career, I know. But

1979
01:57:23,160 --> 01:57:27,400
Speaker 2: I mean, by the way, who says no, just trade

1980
01:57:27,440 --> 01:57:31,600
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson Senior to Arizona for Marv Junior?

1981
01:57:31,920 --> 01:57:34,520
Speaker 1: Who says no, Jake Arizona.

1982
01:57:34,960 --> 01:57:38,520
Speaker 2: That was a sarcastic question, but okay, thanks okay for

1983
01:57:38,560 --> 01:57:39,120
Speaker 2: playing along.

1984
01:57:41,680 --> 01:57:46,840
Speaker 1: You know my other question with this, Okay, I need

1985
01:57:46,880 --> 01:57:52,320
Speaker 1: someone to answer a life riddle for me. And I

1986
01:57:52,960 --> 01:58:00,640
Speaker 1: was an English major in college. Okay, so the English

1987
01:58:00,720 --> 01:58:05,920
Speaker 1: language and vernacular and you know, things that slang that

1988
01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:08,440
Speaker 1: become part of the mainstream and all that. All of

1989
01:58:08,480 --> 01:58:14,640
Speaker 1: that fascinates me. Linguistics in general intrigue me. But there

1990
01:58:14,720 --> 01:58:18,440
Speaker 1: is one thing with the Colts quarterback situation that is

1991
01:58:18,480 --> 01:58:21,520
Speaker 1: a question that I'm not saying that I'm right. I

1992
01:58:21,560 --> 01:58:26,520
Speaker 1: think I'm probably wrong, and I don't mean it to

1993
01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:36,240
Speaker 1: be snarky or naive or anything. I'm legitimately genuinely asking

1994
01:58:36,880 --> 01:58:40,360
Speaker 1: there is something that has begun to take place in

1995
01:58:40,440 --> 01:58:44,240
Speaker 1: the city of Indianapolis and the last year that I

1996
01:58:44,320 --> 01:58:51,000
Speaker 1: have never, from a linguistic standpoint, observed before. And I'm

1997
01:58:51,040 --> 01:58:53,960
Speaker 1: curious A if I'm wrong, and b if I am

1998
01:58:54,080 --> 01:58:56,920
Speaker 1: if I'm the only one who's noticed it. And it

1999
01:58:56,960 --> 01:59:00,400
Speaker 1: has to do exactly with what you just mentioned and

2000
01:59:00,480 --> 01:59:05,880
Speaker 1: the quarterback position of the Indianapolis Colts. But before we

2001
01:59:05,960 --> 01:59:08,640
Speaker 1: get to that, right now, caller number on for the

2002
01:59:08,720 --> 01:59:11,880
Speaker 1: fan Fest tickets for the Final four fan Fest from

2003
01:59:11,880 --> 01:59:13,800
Speaker 1: the Indiana Sports Corps. This will be at the Convention

2004
01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:18,360
Speaker 1: Center Final four weekend all kinds of celebration about the

2005
01:59:18,400 --> 01:59:20,200
Speaker 1: final four. There will be trophies you can see, there

2006
01:59:20,240 --> 01:59:24,320
Speaker 1: will be autograph sessions, there will be speakers going on,

2007
01:59:24,560 --> 01:59:27,040
Speaker 1: and then, you know, obviously just the pomp and circumstance.

2008
01:59:27,160 --> 01:59:28,680
Speaker 1: We don't know the four schools. It will be in

2009
01:59:28,680 --> 01:59:30,960
Speaker 1: a but a celebration of the final four. In general,

2010
01:59:31,000 --> 01:59:33,280
Speaker 1: are we gonna do this text line or phone line? Eddie?

2011
01:59:33,280 --> 01:59:36,320
Speaker 2: Well, you already said color numbers, so we'll stick with

2012
01:59:36,400 --> 01:59:40,040
Speaker 2: the color four. Also keep in mind, Jake, Division one,

2013
01:59:40,480 --> 01:59:44,040
Speaker 2: Division two, and Division three final fours are here awesome,

2014
01:59:44,040 --> 01:59:46,720
Speaker 2: So it's going to be a overall really really fun

2015
01:59:46,760 --> 01:59:51,560
Speaker 2: experience celebrating all three of those final fours in downtown Indianapolis.

2016
01:59:51,600 --> 01:59:54,480
Speaker 1: Just an awesome weekend. In general, caller number, what did

2017
01:59:54,520 --> 01:59:57,640
Speaker 1: you say, Eddie? Quatro quattro two three nine ten seventy

2018
01:59:57,720 --> 01:59:59,520
Speaker 1: is the telephone number you will be on your way

2019
01:59:59,800 --> 02:00:04,960
Speaker 1: three nine one zero seven zero. Now that freaked me

2020
02:00:04,960 --> 02:00:07,240
Speaker 1: out that I just heard myself talking. What's going on? Yeah?

2021
02:00:07,280 --> 02:00:09,280
Speaker 2: Sorry, I was trying to search for something to make

2022
02:00:09,320 --> 02:00:12,840
Speaker 2: a promo from today's show, Jake, and I forgot to

2023
02:00:12,920 --> 02:00:13,440
Speaker 2: hit pause.

2024
02:00:14,920 --> 02:00:18,760
Speaker 1: By the way, Hello to Jack who works at Old

2025
02:00:18,840 --> 02:00:21,400
Speaker 1: National The murat, whichever we'd like to call it. We

2026
02:00:21,400 --> 02:00:24,760
Speaker 1: were at the show last night and went to get

2027
02:00:25,000 --> 02:00:31,360
Speaker 1: refreshments and he said, man, I recognize your voice, which

2028
02:00:31,880 --> 02:00:34,280
Speaker 1: I hate my voice, so that's always it's flattering, but

2029
02:00:34,360 --> 02:00:37,480
Speaker 1: appreciate it. But good dude. We saw the show last night,

2030
02:00:37,720 --> 02:00:42,080
Speaker 1: the Simon and Garfuckel story, which was cool at Old

2031
02:00:42,160 --> 02:00:44,840
Speaker 1: National Murat. Okay, did we get the tickets away for

2032
02:00:44,920 --> 02:00:48,600
Speaker 1: the fan fest? Eddie? What did you say?

2033
02:00:48,640 --> 02:00:51,080
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I was listening again to you talk for

2034
02:00:51,160 --> 02:00:54,320
Speaker 2: this promo. Did we give away the tickets for the

2035
02:00:54,320 --> 02:00:54,680
Speaker 2: fan first?

2036
02:00:54,720 --> 02:00:57,600
Speaker 1: We did? We did? Indeed? Yes, yes, and that was

2037
02:00:57,640 --> 02:01:02,720
Speaker 1: too uh. Daniel Cornette no relation to Joel fair Enough

2038
02:01:02,840 --> 02:01:10,360
Speaker 1: or Jordan Yeah. Right, Here is my linguistic question before

2039
02:01:10,360 --> 02:01:15,440
Speaker 1: we get into why Daniel Jones in his fifty million dollars,

2040
02:01:15,480 --> 02:01:17,920
Speaker 1: which sounds crazy, is not as crazy as you think.

2041
02:01:18,280 --> 02:01:24,000
Speaker 1: Latest signing Jake and NFL legal tampering period. Mike Evans

2042
02:01:24,280 --> 02:01:28,320
Speaker 1: is leaving Tampa Bay after twelve years to go to

2043
02:01:28,360 --> 02:01:36,800
Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ers. Okay, someone tell me this.

2044
02:01:37,000 --> 02:01:40,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, three year deal, but I'm curious of this.

2045
02:01:40,920 --> 02:01:46,440
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson is now Anthony Richardson Senior because he has

2046
02:01:46,480 --> 02:01:49,320
Speaker 1: a son that is named Anthony Richardson Junior. I get that,

2047
02:01:51,960 --> 02:01:59,080
Speaker 1: but if you have a for example, I'll go to

2048
02:01:59,280 --> 02:02:04,920
Speaker 1: auto racing. Alancer is one of only two men to

2049
02:02:05,040 --> 02:02:08,520
Speaker 1: have his name appear on the borg Warner Trophy in

2050
02:02:08,560 --> 02:02:13,640
Speaker 1: two different variations. Juan Montoya was Juan Montoya when he

2051
02:02:13,680 --> 02:02:19,480
Speaker 1: won the race in two thousand and then when he

2052
02:02:19,520 --> 02:02:21,960
Speaker 1: came back and won it again. By then he had

2053
02:02:21,960 --> 02:02:24,640
Speaker 1: been to Formula One, so it was changed on the

2054
02:02:24,640 --> 02:02:27,720
Speaker 1: borg Warner for his second win, and it says Juan

2055
02:02:27,760 --> 02:02:35,320
Speaker 1: Pablo Montoya. Now Alancer won the race in nineteen seventy,

2056
02:02:35,440 --> 02:02:39,600
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy one, and nineteen seventy eight, and in all

2057
02:02:39,600 --> 02:02:42,760
Speaker 1: three of those races on the BorgWarner Trophy, it says Alancer.

2058
02:02:44,760 --> 02:02:46,600
Speaker 1: When he won it in nineteen eighty seven, on the

2059
02:02:46,600 --> 02:02:51,320
Speaker 1: borg Warner Trophy, it says Allencer Senior. He did not

2060
02:02:51,400 --> 02:02:55,720
Speaker 1: become Allen ser Senior after nineteen seventy eight. It's just

2061
02:02:55,760 --> 02:02:59,200
Speaker 1: that in nineteen eighty seven, Allencer Senior was used to

2062
02:02:59,320 --> 02:03:06,720
Speaker 1: vary eight because Allan Sir Junior was also racing. Typically,

2063
02:03:06,760 --> 02:03:09,680
Speaker 1: when one has a child that is named after them,

2064
02:03:09,720 --> 02:03:13,040
Speaker 1: and is a junior. Do they immediately take the senior

2065
02:03:13,200 --> 02:03:17,160
Speaker 1: when the child is an infant or just in situations,

2066
02:03:17,320 --> 02:03:21,680
Speaker 1: or once the younger version becomes of adult age, and

2067
02:03:21,880 --> 02:03:25,880
Speaker 1: thus the variation or the distinguishing between with which of

2068
02:03:25,920 --> 02:03:30,840
Speaker 1: the two you are referencing, Like, in other words, do

2069
02:03:30,880 --> 02:03:33,440
Speaker 1: we need to say that Anthony Richardson's senior is the

2070
02:03:33,520 --> 02:03:36,360
Speaker 1: quarterback of the Colts just to differentiate and so that

2071
02:03:36,360 --> 02:03:39,320
Speaker 1: people aren't confused that like the ten month old might

2072
02:03:39,320 --> 02:03:40,360
Speaker 1: actually be the quarterback.

2073
02:03:41,360 --> 02:03:43,040
Speaker 2: I think it's more of a sign of respect Jake

2074
02:03:43,080 --> 02:03:45,240
Speaker 2: by calling him what he desires to be called back.

2075
02:03:45,240 --> 02:03:49,800
Speaker 1: I'm not again, if that's the case, then Mark Boyle

2076
02:03:49,800 --> 02:03:52,080
Speaker 1: should call everybody on the broadcast by what they deserve

2077
02:03:52,160 --> 02:03:53,520
Speaker 1: to be called or what they want to be called,

2078
02:03:53,560 --> 02:03:54,160
Speaker 1: not what their name.

2079
02:03:54,240 --> 02:03:54,360
Speaker 5: Is.

2080
02:03:54,680 --> 02:03:59,480
Speaker 1: My point simply being, I don't know. I'm not saying

2081
02:03:59,560 --> 02:04:02,080
Speaker 1: that he's long in doing it. I'm simply asking the

2082
02:04:02,160 --> 02:04:05,960
Speaker 1: question of do most people I don't know this. Do

2083
02:04:06,040 --> 02:04:08,400
Speaker 1: most people that have a child that goes by junior

2084
02:04:09,280 --> 02:04:12,560
Speaker 1: immediately take on the senior? Or is it once they

2085
02:04:12,560 --> 02:04:16,560
Speaker 1: are in situations where there could potentially be confusion of

2086
02:04:16,600 --> 02:04:19,800
Speaker 1: the two. You see what I'm saying I don't know

2087
02:04:19,800 --> 02:04:22,400
Speaker 1: the answer to that because I but I do recall,

2088
02:04:22,520 --> 02:04:25,480
Speaker 1: like when I was a kid, though I don't remember

2089
02:04:25,680 --> 02:04:27,920
Speaker 1: hearing many kids that I grew up with that went

2090
02:04:28,000 --> 02:04:31,360
Speaker 1: by junior and if that was the case, if their

2091
02:04:31,440 --> 02:04:34,800
Speaker 1: dad was immediately known in public circles, like there have

2092
02:04:34,920 --> 02:04:37,600
Speaker 1: to be other players in the NFL who have a

2093
02:04:37,680 --> 02:04:39,960
Speaker 1: child named after them that are juniors, right, but yet

2094
02:04:40,000 --> 02:04:44,000
Speaker 1: you don't typically hear the senior label with it, and

2095
02:04:44,160 --> 02:04:47,560
Speaker 1: don't did he? And I don't know, I'm not disagreeing

2096
02:04:47,560 --> 02:04:50,400
Speaker 1: with it, but did Anthony Richardson himself at some point

2097
02:04:50,680 --> 02:04:54,320
Speaker 1: request to be called senior or did people just start

2098
02:04:54,320 --> 02:04:55,720
Speaker 1: calling him that once they knew that he had a

2099
02:04:55,840 --> 02:05:00,440
Speaker 1: child named Anthony Richardson Junior. These are the things that

2100
02:05:00,520 --> 02:05:06,840
Speaker 1: keep me awake at night right now. In terms of

2101
02:05:07,200 --> 02:05:12,120
Speaker 1: the number that is being requested by Daniel Jones. That

2102
02:05:12,400 --> 02:05:21,840
Speaker 1: sounds absurd, but listen to these numbers, Eddie. Okay, I'm

2103
02:05:21,840 --> 02:05:23,600
Speaker 1: going to give you a quarterback, and I want you

2104
02:05:23,640 --> 02:05:27,560
Speaker 1: to tell me in your mind whether you consider Daniel

2105
02:05:27,640 --> 02:05:30,760
Speaker 1: Jones to be like higher or lower in value than

2106
02:05:30,800 --> 02:05:36,600
Speaker 1: said quarterback when he's at his best. Okay, okay, uh

2107
02:05:37,000 --> 02:05:49,560
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson better, Jalen Hurts not better, Kirk Cousins better,

2108
02:05:51,880 --> 02:06:03,160
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes okay, Matthew Stafford not better, Rock Purty not better,

2109
02:06:05,800 --> 02:06:15,600
Speaker 1: Tua better, Trevor Lawrence uh not better, Jordan Love not better,

2110
02:06:16,600 --> 02:06:22,200
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott not better. Dak Prescott sixty million. Oh yeah,

2111
02:06:22,240 --> 02:06:29,160
Speaker 1: he's the largest cophit right, Trevor fifty five million, Tua

2112
02:06:29,400 --> 02:06:34,440
Speaker 1: fifty three point one million. Uh huh, Jalen Hurts fifty

2113
02:06:34,440 --> 02:06:40,480
Speaker 1: one million, okay, Kyler Murray forty six point one million.

2114
02:06:40,600 --> 02:06:45,480
Speaker 1: Ooh man, that's like that is splitting hairs. Cousins forty

2115
02:06:45,520 --> 02:06:55,440
Speaker 1: five million, Mahomes forty five million, Stafford forty million. When

2116
02:06:55,440 --> 02:06:57,000
Speaker 1: you look at those things.

2117
02:06:57,000 --> 02:06:58,800
Speaker 2: I would have to also see Jake win. A lot

2118
02:06:58,800 --> 02:07:01,720
Speaker 2: of those deals were agreed upon, Like I know, Kyler

2119
02:07:01,800 --> 02:07:04,840
Speaker 2: was what two years ago, same for Kirk Cousins.

2120
02:07:04,920 --> 02:07:07,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I get that. It's it's you know

2121
02:07:07,320 --> 02:07:07,760
Speaker 1: what I mean.

2122
02:07:07,880 --> 02:07:10,120
Speaker 2: And the NFL has gotten to a point now where

2123
02:07:10,200 --> 02:07:12,800
Speaker 2: if you draft a quarterback and he has some much success,

2124
02:07:13,440 --> 02:07:16,480
Speaker 2: there's such a big fear of not being able to

2125
02:07:16,480 --> 02:07:19,840
Speaker 2: replace that quarterback. Now they gets stuck having to pay

2126
02:07:19,880 --> 02:07:23,120
Speaker 2: these guys and then they just get put in purgatory.

2127
02:07:23,960 --> 02:07:27,040
Speaker 2: And so that's why you see you know, Arizona having

2128
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Speaker 2: to move on for Kyler, Miami having to move on

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Speaker 2: from UH to A.

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Speaker 1: I mean Cleveland with Deshaun Watson for example. Another one

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Speaker 1: I've always wanted this, you know what percent of big

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Speaker 1: time contracts? I mean, I don't know. The I'm asking

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Speaker 1: is somewhat rhetorically. It would be a fascinating thing to

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Speaker 1: analyze and study the percentage of big time free agent

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Speaker 1: or extension contracts that see through to the life of it,

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Speaker 1: Because doesn't it feel this way, Eddie, Like every time

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Speaker 1: that a player is signed to a big deal, then

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Speaker 1: it becomes a matter of whether or not that's a

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Speaker 1: deal that we see the lifetime of it or a

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Speaker 1: deal that you're desperately trying to get out from underneath

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Speaker 1: in two to three years. Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 2: And if you're looking at any of the deals today,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if we've seen one quite yet. Maybe

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Speaker 2: the Mike Evans in San Francisco, Delio, just because he

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Speaker 2: has had trouble staying healthy, especially as he gotten older.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the Alec Pierce contract In the end,

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Speaker 1: we will look at it and say they got really

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Speaker 1: good retort on investment.

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Speaker 2: I think they will because I think we are starting

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Speaker 2: to enter the best years of Alec Pearce's career going forward. Agreed,

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02:08:35,400 --> 02:08:38,760
Speaker 2: there were times last year where he kind of displayed

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Speaker 2: that he can not only just win vertically down the field,

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Speaker 2: that he can win over the middle of the field. Like, oh,

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Speaker 2: that's nice, really good development there. And that last year

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Speaker 2: for him, he had what eighty four targets and he

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Speaker 2: eclipsed over a thousand yards and it was I forget

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Speaker 2: the exact number of receptions, but it was the first

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Speaker 2: receiver since DeShawn Jackson to have a thousand yards in

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Speaker 2: less than what sixty catches or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, listen, I think he's a great player,

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Speaker 1: and he's he is absolutely a drive extender, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean? The third and eighteen and it's like, man,

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Speaker 1: he finds a way to get himself open and you

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Speaker 1: can get it to him. But my point being just

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Speaker 1: between who's going to be throwing him the ball if

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Speaker 1: they go Like I said, do you believe that the

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02:09:30,200 --> 02:09:35,560
Speaker 1: Colts right now are better than they were three months ago? No?

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Speaker 1: Because of which departure or which deviation I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's about any of the departures. I think it's just

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Speaker 1: more or less the quarterback spot. Well, okay, fair if

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is in the mix, assuming they're able to

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Speaker 1: resign him, and I think again, I am firmly believing

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Speaker 1: that Daniel Jones. Within a day and a half, we're

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Speaker 1: going to hear that he's back.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, hm, I mean even still

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Speaker 2: you have questions about him. I mean, he was great

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Speaker 2: for eight weeks. I agree with that man, and in

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Speaker 2: his career he has n't being able to say on

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Speaker 2: the field.

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Speaker 1: Did the injury Did the injury slammed the door on

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Speaker 1: a slight regression that we started to see.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how much of the progression either was

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Speaker 2: on the fibula. Like That's the other thing too. If

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Speaker 2: he plays all seventeen games he played like he did

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Speaker 2: after he fractured the fibula, it's going to be like, well,

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Speaker 2: look what he did in those first seven games when

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Speaker 2: he was healthy, Like that is the guy that we

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Speaker 2: think he is moving forward, and you still end up

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Speaker 2: paying him more. You may have to pay him more

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Speaker 2: money if he plays all seventeen games, no matter how

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Speaker 2: the season finishes because you have the utmost confidence of

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Speaker 2: belief that after a healthy offseason and getting back to

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Speaker 2: where he went the training camp, having a whole offseason

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Speaker 2: to train with, you know, the players, that he's going

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Speaker 2: to be able to get back to that first eight weeks.

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Speaker 1: I do think Eddie, that the fibula was in the

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Speaker 1: Atlanta game. I do believe. I believe that as much

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Speaker 1: the injury and the fibula, we had just started to

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02:11:21,800 --> 02:11:25,800
Speaker 1: see the crack of the door of the light coming

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02:11:25,840 --> 02:11:30,080
Speaker 1: through with the way Pittsburgh was so aggressive against Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 1: It rattled him for the first time he was rattled,

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Speaker 1: and that seemed to open a blueprint that then led

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02:11:37,160 --> 02:11:41,800
Speaker 1: and grew itself into the leg injury and then probably

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02:11:41,800 --> 02:11:44,880
Speaker 1: the achilles off of the leg injury. But I just

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02:11:44,960 --> 02:11:48,680
Speaker 1: think that there was for a long time the first

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Speaker 1: half of the year for whatever reason, and I think

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Speaker 1: it's because teams were concerted, giving concerted effort on Jonathan

2208
02:11:55,440 --> 02:11:58,680
Speaker 1: Taylor and as well trying to figure out Tyler Warren.

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Speaker 1: They they were allowing, they were flexible to the point

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Speaker 1: of allowing Daniel Jones to do some things that it's like,

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Speaker 1: oh wow. And then once everybody kind of figured out

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Speaker 1: the blueprint on Okay, what they like to do, how

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02:12:12,840 --> 02:12:16,440
Speaker 1: they like to do it, the different formations they use,

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02:12:17,040 --> 02:12:19,800
Speaker 1: and they got a glimpse. Then they got super aggressive

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Speaker 1: against him, and I do think that he started to

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Speaker 1: show that I'm not saying it was a guaranteed, but

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Speaker 1: that there was the risk that the Daniel Jones of

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02:12:30,240 --> 02:12:32,000
Speaker 1: New York was going to present itself again.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's going to be peaks and valleys within

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Speaker 2: any season, and you have to put it in perspective

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02:12:37,760 --> 02:12:42,760
Speaker 2: that the offense was operating at a historic level through

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Speaker 2: the first seven eight weeks of the year. You knew

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02:12:45,360 --> 02:12:48,280
Speaker 2: that some sort of regression toward the mean was.

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Speaker 1: Going to happen.

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Speaker 2: The part that where that regression came was all the turnovers,

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Speaker 2: And if you just clean up a couple of those turnovers,

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02:12:58,160 --> 02:13:00,240
Speaker 2: then the offense is still going to operate at that

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02:13:00,320 --> 02:13:03,200
Speaker 2: level it was before. And the ability of Jones to

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02:13:03,240 --> 02:13:05,840
Speaker 2: move around and manipulate the pocket is what keeps those

2230
02:13:06,320 --> 02:13:09,360
Speaker 2: guys on the edge, honest, and when you take that away,

2231
02:13:09,840 --> 02:13:11,400
Speaker 2: it's going to be harder for the coach to run

2232
02:13:11,440 --> 02:13:13,320
Speaker 2: the ball because you don't have to worry about the

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02:13:13,400 --> 02:13:15,920
Speaker 2: legs of Daniel Jones and getting out on the edge.

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02:13:15,960 --> 02:13:18,040
Speaker 2: So you can just collapse if you're the edge, or

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02:13:18,040 --> 02:13:20,240
Speaker 2: you can start loading up the box because you know

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02:13:20,320 --> 02:13:21,520
Speaker 2: that he's not going to be able to move. You

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02:13:21,560 --> 02:13:24,040
Speaker 2: can bring the pressure more and you got to rely

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02:13:24,120 --> 02:13:26,440
Speaker 2: on guys to get open and with whatever they want

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02:13:26,480 --> 02:13:29,040
Speaker 2: to do in the passing scheme, and then it kind

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Speaker 2: of forces Daniel Jones' hand like to either panic in

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Speaker 2: the pocket, get happy feet to get to talk quick,

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02:13:34,800 --> 02:13:37,720
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, and make an errant throw or just

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02:13:37,840 --> 02:13:39,240
Speaker 2: check it down or take the sack.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Jake, a couple of texts real quick to get

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Speaker 1: to before we do the crossover with J and V

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Speaker 1: coming up and talk about all of this happening today.

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Speaker 1: Jacos dan walden Son still involved in racing. He has

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Speaker 1: two of them, Sebastian and Oliver. And yes they are

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Speaker 1: involved under the Andretti Global umbrella. And I believe Sebastian

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Speaker 1: is running a formula series in Europe for Prema, I think.

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Speaker 1: But they both of them are underneath the umbrella of

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02:14:10,080 --> 02:14:15,080
Speaker 1: Andretti Global, so yes, they are both still involved in racing. Also,

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Speaker 1: Charlie's asked me this a couple of times. Is there

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Speaker 1: such thing as flopping and racing? In other words, would

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Speaker 1: a teammate ever cause some sort of a problem to

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Speaker 1: assist another? Obviously, when you're talking about at a high

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02:14:27,200 --> 02:14:30,200
Speaker 1: rate of speed, that is something that is pretty risky.

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02:14:30,760 --> 02:14:34,040
Speaker 1: But yes, the short answer is yes, it is very rare.

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02:14:34,320 --> 02:14:38,120
Speaker 1: It is always speculated about. It is never obviously officially announced,

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02:14:38,200 --> 02:14:42,480
Speaker 1: unless you're talking about when Michael Schumacher intentionally pulled over

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02:14:42,600 --> 02:14:45,320
Speaker 1: and allowed Rubens Barrichello to win the US Grand Prix

2262
02:14:45,440 --> 02:14:50,640
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis at Ims. But unless there is, it happens

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02:14:50,680 --> 02:14:54,680
Speaker 1: more probably in Formula one or where there are team

2264
02:14:54,880 --> 02:15:00,800
Speaker 1: oriented incentives and you know the old team rules quote unquote,

2265
02:15:01,800 --> 02:15:05,640
Speaker 1: But are there gentlemanly things where a teammate will allow

2266
02:15:05,680 --> 02:15:08,760
Speaker 1: one to get passed? Perhaps, But in terms of causing

2267
02:15:08,800 --> 02:15:12,560
Speaker 1: an incident, there has always been speculation during Tony Kanan's

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02:15:12,600 --> 02:15:15,800
Speaker 1: Indy five hundred win that on the last lap of

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02:15:15,840 --> 02:15:18,280
Speaker 1: that race that Dario fran Kety brushed the wall to

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02:15:18,280 --> 02:15:21,120
Speaker 1: bring out the caution in favor of Knan. I think

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02:15:21,120 --> 02:15:24,680
Speaker 1: that's absolute hogwash. I know Dario really well. There's Dario

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02:15:24,720 --> 02:15:27,040
Speaker 1: frank Kety, who had the record for most DNFs with

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Speaker 1: an Indianapolis. I don't think he would have compromised that

2274
02:15:30,040 --> 02:15:34,920
Speaker 1: just for that sake, but that was always speculated. Also,

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02:15:35,000 --> 02:15:37,640
Speaker 1: Marco Andretti's first win in the Indy Car Series, his

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02:15:37,680 --> 02:15:41,720
Speaker 1: teammate Brian hurd A spun at. I think we were

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02:15:42,160 --> 02:15:45,360
Speaker 1: at that time that was it infineon Raceway, Sonoma, and

2278
02:15:45,400 --> 02:15:48,520
Speaker 1: there was always speculation of that. So are there speculations

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02:15:48,520 --> 02:15:48,720
Speaker 1: of it?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Are there sometimes I raising things that happen, Yes, But

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02:15:53,720 --> 02:15:55,520
Speaker 1: when you're talking about at that rate of speed and

2283
02:15:55,560 --> 02:15:58,520
Speaker 1: the safety element of it, it's really hard to say

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02:15:58,520 --> 02:16:00,840
Speaker 1: that someone would do it intention because there's just too

2285
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Speaker 1: And we'll do it with John next. What an absolutely

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Speaker 1: gorgeous day outside. By the way, I'm curious if anybody

2292
02:16:22,760 --> 02:16:26,560
Speaker 1: else went to last night, and I think it was

2293
02:16:26,600 --> 02:16:31,400
Speaker 1: just a one night deal. The Simon and Garfunkel story,

2294
02:16:33,440 --> 02:16:37,280
Speaker 1: which was truly remarkable, because the two guys that were

2295
02:16:37,320 --> 02:16:41,160
Speaker 1: playing Art Gilerfunkel and Paul Simon, especially the guy that

2296
02:16:41,280 --> 02:16:44,560
Speaker 1: portrayed Paul Simon. I mean, it was amazing how much

2297
02:16:44,600 --> 02:16:50,240
Speaker 1: he sounded like Paul Simon. But the if I was

2298
02:16:50,280 --> 02:16:52,720
Speaker 1: to give a critique, and I'm curious if anybody else

2299
02:16:52,800 --> 02:16:57,279
Speaker 1: went to it, if they noticed this, it was really

2300
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Speaker 1: well done. If you were a fan or enthusiast of

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Speaker 1: Simon and Garfunkle, you would absolutely love it. And I

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Speaker 1: enjoyed it for certain, But I feel like it was

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02:17:10,160 --> 02:17:14,200
Speaker 1: more it was less about like the story and learning

2304
02:17:14,240 --> 02:17:17,640
Speaker 1: about Simon and Garfunkel and some sort of a stage

2305
02:17:17,680 --> 02:17:20,760
Speaker 1: presentation of learning their story. It didn't really kind of

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02:17:20,840 --> 02:17:22,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it just kind of was like, Okay, then

2307
02:17:22,160 --> 02:17:24,520
Speaker 1: their next album was this one, and here's how it

2308
02:17:24,560 --> 02:17:26,760
Speaker 1: came about, and here's some songs from it. It was

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02:17:26,840 --> 02:17:30,160
Speaker 1: basically a tribute band. I mean, I'm curious if anybody

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02:17:30,200 --> 02:17:35,200
Speaker 1: else they were fabulous. They sounded dead on. But it

2311
02:17:35,240 --> 02:17:37,640
Speaker 1: was just kind of more that than it was like

2312
02:17:39,040 --> 02:17:43,640
Speaker 1: a quote unquote, you know, story of their life. Jamb

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Speaker 1: has Arrived, crossover brought to you by the good guys

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Speaker 1: and love eating an Air. John Your thought on when

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Speaker 1: you think it will be. Will it be on my

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02:17:50,480 --> 02:17:52,959
Speaker 1: show tomorrow or your show today or tomorrow When we

2317
02:17:53,240 --> 02:17:54,520
Speaker 1: learned that Daniel Jones has a.

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02:17:54,520 --> 02:17:58,080
Speaker 7: Deal, probably when I'm done somewhere in between, right, I

2319
02:17:58,080 --> 02:18:01,800
Speaker 7: would imagine, I mean no choice. People were telling me

2320
02:18:01,840 --> 02:18:04,039
Speaker 7: earlier today, I can't believe they paid that much for

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02:18:04,080 --> 02:18:04,640
Speaker 7: Eli Pierce.

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02:18:04,680 --> 02:18:08,160
Speaker 6: That's overpaying. Well, no, duh, that's going back ways.

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02:18:08,640 --> 02:18:08,959
Speaker 3: Then.

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Speaker 6: You know they set the stage for this. You had

2325
02:18:12,000 --> 02:18:12,600
Speaker 6: to do this if.

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02:18:12,480 --> 02:18:15,240
Speaker 7: You didn't get rid of the regime running this, if

2327
02:18:15,280 --> 02:18:17,640
Speaker 7: you made that deal with the NFL trade deadline, you're

2328
02:18:17,680 --> 02:18:19,920
Speaker 7: selling us all on what was the first ten weeks

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02:18:19,920 --> 02:18:20,440
Speaker 7: of the season.

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Speaker 6: You had zero choice in the matter than to do this.

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02:18:23,160 --> 02:18:25,800
Speaker 1: Well, my question is I'll ask you the same thing

2332
02:18:25,840 --> 02:18:27,840
Speaker 1: that I asked Eddie. Now that Michael Bitman Junior is

2333
02:18:27,840 --> 02:18:30,200
Speaker 1: on his way to Pittsburgh, Sire Franklin's been traded for

2334
02:18:31,200 --> 02:18:37,320
Speaker 1: basically run defense and assuming Jones now is in the mix,

2335
02:18:37,360 --> 02:18:39,240
Speaker 1: and I think by signing Pierce that leads you to

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02:18:39,280 --> 02:18:42,039
Speaker 1: believe that he's been told bok Daniel Jones. Yeah, guy, right?

2337
02:18:42,280 --> 02:18:44,080
Speaker 1: Are they better than they were three months ago?

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02:18:45,800 --> 02:18:48,560
Speaker 7: Three months ago was when they're healthy I would guess

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Speaker 7: you would be. But the problem I think you're also

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Speaker 7: going to have is was that also a product of

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Speaker 7: a softer schedule at the beginning that I would assume

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02:18:57,000 --> 02:18:59,400
Speaker 7: it would be much tougher coming up next year as

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Speaker 7: Well've got teams within the AFC South again your own division,

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02:19:03,600 --> 02:19:07,400
Speaker 7: that are still in front of you. So I don't

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02:19:07,440 --> 02:19:09,080
Speaker 7: know if I can answer that right now, because I

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02:19:09,120 --> 02:19:10,560
Speaker 7: don't know what it looks like. There's a lot of

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02:19:10,600 --> 02:19:13,360
Speaker 7: people suggesting that the defense will get better. I can't

2348
02:19:13,400 --> 02:19:15,360
Speaker 7: tell you that. The only thing that I know, and

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02:19:15,400 --> 02:19:17,480
Speaker 7: I know this to be true because there's evidence, Jake

2350
02:19:17,520 --> 02:19:20,119
Speaker 7: of it, is that it's never worked out, no matter

2351
02:19:20,160 --> 02:19:22,480
Speaker 7: what you thought, if you're going with the positive, it

2352
02:19:22,520 --> 02:19:25,360
Speaker 7: never has worked out around here. So until further notice,

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02:19:25,480 --> 02:19:28,160
Speaker 7: I guess we're all led to believe that it's probably

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02:19:28,200 --> 02:19:30,720
Speaker 7: not going to work out, just by virtue of who

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02:19:30,800 --> 02:19:31,640
Speaker 7: was leading.

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Speaker 1: By the way in pardon my total ignorance for asking this,

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Speaker 1: but I believe it's your neck of the woods. Bloomfield's

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02:19:37,280 --> 02:19:37,720
Speaker 1: down near you.

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Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, I saw that Abner kid right, teen wolf Kidd? Yeah,

2360
02:19:41,560 --> 02:19:44,200
Speaker 7: the team, well, I did not see. I don't know

2361
02:19:44,600 --> 02:19:47,440
Speaker 7: his family or anything. But one of my friends from

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02:19:47,480 --> 02:19:50,440
Speaker 7: high school, JB. Neil, his son Blake is one of

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02:19:50,480 --> 02:19:52,360
Speaker 7: the better players in the state of Indiana, is also

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Speaker 7: on that.

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Speaker 1: Team, and they won the Sexual Sexual thirty seven.

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Speaker 7: They did, and that was Joey Hart, who used to

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Speaker 7: be the head coach in Lenton, who's the head coach Cloverdale.

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Speaker 7: And he's got he's got a like a six foot

2369
02:20:04,040 --> 02:20:06,840
Speaker 7: ten center and you know, he's a he's a good coach.

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Speaker 7: He's had some some stuff happen with him, but he's

2371
02:20:09,720 --> 02:20:12,800
Speaker 7: a good coach and played at Coastal Carolina back in

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Speaker 7: the day.

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Speaker 1: So for those that are unfamiliar, there was I think

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02:20:16,800 --> 02:20:19,160
Speaker 1: Barstool or one of them put it out, but there

2375
02:20:19,360 --> 02:20:22,840
Speaker 1: was essentially a viral video now from our friend I

2376
02:20:22,840 --> 02:20:24,680
Speaker 1: think wt H. I might have been the one that

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02:20:24,720 --> 02:20:25,800
Speaker 1: initially had it, but.

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Speaker 6: Like similar had it too right at THHO And.

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Speaker 1: So you know a big kid from Bloomfield that because

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02:20:32,600 --> 02:20:35,640
Speaker 1: he's a big I mean, I'm not gonna say overweight kid,

2381
02:20:35,680 --> 02:20:37,440
Speaker 1: but he doesn't look like a basketball player per se,

2382
02:20:37,440 --> 02:20:39,000
Speaker 1: but man, he can flat out shoot right and he's

2383
02:20:39,040 --> 02:20:40,119
Speaker 1: knocking down shots all over.

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Speaker 7: I thought that that was a reference to UH to

2385
02:20:43,560 --> 02:20:45,640
Speaker 7: Chubbs and teen Wolf, right, I mean that was it

2386
02:20:45,680 --> 02:20:47,360
Speaker 7: kind of looks like one thing he didn't do was

2387
02:20:47,440 --> 02:20:49,120
Speaker 7: like pull out a hook shot from the top of

2388
02:20:49,120 --> 02:20:52,119
Speaker 7: the key.

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Speaker 1: But he I will give credit get the last bopkins.

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Speaker 6: I'll give the kid credit.

2391
02:20:54,840 --> 02:20:57,200
Speaker 7: He was clear that I guess the game plan was

2392
02:20:57,200 --> 02:20:59,280
Speaker 7: to leave his ass wide open because they left him

2393
02:20:59,280 --> 02:21:00,840
Speaker 7: wide open and he knocked it down.

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02:21:00,879 --> 02:21:02,440
Speaker 1: He hit what like three or four of them, and

2395
02:21:02,480 --> 02:21:04,680
Speaker 1: it was just the way that afterwards, the interview afterwards

2396
02:21:04,720 --> 02:21:06,520
Speaker 1: was great. Yeah, that's what people loved. It is just

2397
02:21:06,680 --> 02:21:08,280
Speaker 1: I got to do what's best for my team. You know.

2398
02:21:08,360 --> 02:21:10,680
Speaker 1: It's a likable kid, right, Yeah, it was funny.

2399
02:21:10,720 --> 02:21:12,600
Speaker 7: One of the best scenes of teen Wolf is at

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02:21:12,600 --> 02:21:15,520
Speaker 7: the dance, the high school dance and Chubbs is there

2401
02:21:15,600 --> 02:21:17,240
Speaker 7: or how about the party when they did all the.

2402
02:21:18,879 --> 02:21:20,600
Speaker 6: All the stuff, all the little things.

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02:21:20,400 --> 02:21:22,600
Speaker 1: They said is teen Wolf. Let me ask you, this

2404
02:21:22,840 --> 02:21:26,320
Speaker 1: is teen Wolf basically the Saved by the Bell of movies.

2405
02:21:26,360 --> 02:21:27,920
Speaker 1: Because it's so bad. It's awesome.

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02:21:28,000 --> 02:21:29,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's no question about it.

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02:21:29,720 --> 02:21:32,120
Speaker 7: It is one of the Seriously, it is one of

2408
02:21:32,120 --> 02:21:35,560
Speaker 7: the best basketball movies out there. And the basketball is

2409
02:21:35,640 --> 02:21:39,440
Speaker 7: literally awful. You know, it's only rivaled by a Season

2410
02:21:39,480 --> 02:21:39,840
Speaker 7: on the Brink.

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02:21:39,879 --> 02:21:42,039
Speaker 1: Do you remember when the season on the when ESPN

2412
02:21:42,080 --> 02:21:43,760
Speaker 1: promoted a season on the Brink for like nine and

2413
02:21:43,800 --> 02:21:46,119
Speaker 1: a half straight years and then it was literally the

2414
02:21:46,160 --> 02:21:47,920
Speaker 1: worst basketball you've ever seen in your life.

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Speaker 7: I had Mick on this show years ago from teen Wolf,

2416
02:21:51,640 --> 02:21:54,440
Speaker 7: you know, he was the antagonist character, Mick, and he

2417
02:21:54,520 --> 02:21:57,800
Speaker 7: told me he said, I've never picked up a basketball

2418
02:21:57,800 --> 02:21:58,360
Speaker 7: in my life.

2419
02:21:58,400 --> 02:22:00,320
Speaker 6: And I said, well, we kind of under She said

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02:22:00,360 --> 02:22:01,040
Speaker 6: that was the case.

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02:22:04,640 --> 02:22:08,080
Speaker 1: There was no acting involved there. What's on the big show, John?

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02:22:08,280 --> 02:22:11,120
Speaker 7: We got our buckle, we got Holder and more on

2423
02:22:11,280 --> 02:22:14,280
Speaker 7: free agency and the Colt stuff and rest of the

2424
02:22:14,400 --> 02:22:18,879
Speaker 7: NFL and college basketball. What a what a turd in

2425
02:22:18,920 --> 02:22:21,680
Speaker 7: the punch bowl? The state of Indiana has been with

2426
02:22:21,760 --> 02:22:25,800
Speaker 7: Cobley basketball? Man, you're not kidding now in particular? Yeah,

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02:22:25,920 --> 02:22:26,520
Speaker 7: bad news.

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02:22:26,640 --> 02:22:28,480
Speaker 1: All right, John's up next. We'll be back with you

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Speaker 1: at noon tomorrow. And I thank you for listening to

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Speaker 1: Quarry Cup.