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Speaker 1: All right, so we've got some updates in the Mark

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Speaker 1: Sanchez case. There was hearing yesterday. Ryan Hedrick from the

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Speaker 1: WIBC newsroom joins us. Now, Ryan Hedrick, Hello.

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Speaker 2: What's going on? Guys? All right for having me.

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Speaker 1: So what we learned yesterday? What happened?

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Speaker 2: Well, we learned that the attorneys believe that Sanchez is

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Speaker 2: too injured to have a jury trial or even a

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Speaker 2: pre trial hearing in December. So the pre trial hearing

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Speaker 2: is scheduled for December. Second, I believe in the jury

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Speaker 2: trial is scheduled for December eleventh.

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Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait, he's two injured.

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Speaker 2: He's two injured. He's recovering from being stabbed by the

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Speaker 2: grease truck driver Perry Toll.

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Speaker 1: But we saw him on that video that served I

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Speaker 1: think was Fox fifty nine, Yes, caught up with him.

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Speaker 1: He clearly appeared to be walking under his own power.

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Speaker 1: He was giving something resembled a statement to the Fox

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Speaker 1: fifty nine people. That was what a week or week

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Speaker 1: and a half ago. He seemed pretty okay then, but

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Speaker 1: he can't go to court.

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Speaker 2: It was a two and a half minute hearing. I

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Speaker 2: watched the whole thing streamed. It was real quick a

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Speaker 2: lot of legal jargon, and after the doors swung open,

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Speaker 2: the reporters were waiting in the lobby and Dan Shachini

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Speaker 2: with the Marion County Prosecutor's Office was questioned about the proceedings,

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Speaker 2: and then Russ McQuaid asked him if about the injuries,

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Speaker 2: and he said that the December date is unlikely.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I think we've kind of said from the

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Speaker 1: beginning that would seem relatively quick to actually have the trial.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, there's all this stuff that they got

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Speaker 1: to go through to even get to the trial, and

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Speaker 1: they're not even going to broach that for quite some

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Speaker 1: time now.

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Speaker 2: I still don't think we see Mark Sanchez in an

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Speaker 2: Indianapolis court room. I think the way things shake out,

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Speaker 2: he will behind the scenes negotiate. I've said this a

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Speaker 2: lot for a couple of weeks on your show.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I think addiction will be the center of his argument.

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Speaker 2: I think he will argue that he's addicted to drugs

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Speaker 2: or alcohol or some type of which will give him

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Speaker 2: an out in this egregious behavior that the AFFI David

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Speaker 2: says was responsible for him fighting this sixty nine year

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Speaker 2: old man.

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Speaker 1: Do you think because it's a high profile case. And

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Speaker 1: obviously the Mary Kenny prosecutor, Ryan Meers, he's allegedly got

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Speaker 1: other political aspirations that that might change things a little

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Speaker 1: bit from what they otherwise might be like if it

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Speaker 1: were Mark Smith instead of Mark Sanchez.

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Speaker 2: So you're saying, maybe Ryan Meures will just take this

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Speaker 2: all the way and say I am abandoning all other

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Speaker 2: methods of prosecution in favor of a more So, you're

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Speaker 2: basically saying that Mark Sanchez is going to be the

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Speaker 2: victim of Ryan Meher's political agenda.

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Speaker 1: I'm simply asking. I'm saying, you know, your ranking viile

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Speaker 1: violent offender seems to get some somewhat decent treatment in

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Speaker 1: the justicism. But we're talking about this mood. I think

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Speaker 1: there's everybody's in play with this, the judges, the prosecutor,

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Speaker 1: the mayor's office, like, I think they're all in play

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Speaker 1: on But I do wonder if, because it is so

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Speaker 1: high profile, that maybe we'll see a little different tactic

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Speaker 1: from the prosecution and Mary Kenny than we normally.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so it would be who Ryan mehre is to

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Speaker 2: prosecute Mark Sanchez to the fullest extent of the law

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Speaker 2: on these on this felony on the single felony charge,

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Speaker 2: because then Republicans couldn't use the talking point that he's

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Speaker 2: just kicking people out and giving them lighter sentences. He

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Speaker 2: could point to this and everybody would be distracted by this.

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Speaker 2: I see the logic. I still think that he would

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Speaker 2: be hard pressed to do that. If Mark Sanchez says

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Speaker 2: I have an addiction problem, I think, I mean, if

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Speaker 2: his attorneys are listening, this is the best case scenario

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Speaker 2: out of this trouble that Mark Sanchez is just raise

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Speaker 2: your hand and say I'm an addict. I'm an alcoholic

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Speaker 2: and the alcohol made me do this. And I think

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Speaker 2: the Marion County Prosecutor's office would have to at that

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Speaker 2: point plead down these charges.

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Speaker 1: Two and a half minutes typical.

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Speaker 2: That seems very short. Yeah, I think so if you

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Speaker 2: have a paid attorney. So I remember being in legal

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Speaker 2: trouble for a drug possession. I was in fifteen years ago,

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Speaker 2: and I had a public defender, and this public defender said,

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Speaker 2: we have to wait for all the private attorneys to

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Speaker 2: go first because they get first priority with the judge,

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Speaker 2: and these cases would be and I just I think

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Speaker 2: back to these cases, and these cases were Okay, we'll

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Speaker 2: see you like in two weeks. But when it came

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Speaker 2: to my case with the public defender, it seemed like

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Speaker 2: it lasted for an hour. So yeah, these private attorneys

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Speaker 2: have these deals with these judges because they have relationships

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Speaker 2: with these people. They see him on the golf course,

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Speaker 2: they see him at the bar, they seem at court

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Speaker 2: gatherings outside the courtroom. So yeah, they definitely get preferential treatment.

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Speaker 2: So Sanchez, he remains free on bond.

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Speaker 1: He's been permitted by the court to return home to California.

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Speaker 1: He will have to come back in December.

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Speaker 2: Though maybe, I mean that's still being negotiated. I think

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Speaker 2: what Dan Shakini said after after the court let out

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Speaker 2: and he spoke to the media, he said, we'll see

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Speaker 2: I don't think the December date is likely. That's exactly

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Speaker 2: what he said. So those dates are up in the air.

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Speaker 2: I still don't think Sanchez Sanchez ever touches down in

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Speaker 2: Indianapolis court. And I checked my case today just to

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Speaker 2: make sure. And the jury trial is still set for

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Speaker 2: December eleventh. The pre trial is set for December second.

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Speaker 1: One thing before let you go. Ryan Headerck from the

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Speaker 1: WBC newsroom as our guest. The photos of the victim

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Speaker 1: were made became public him in the hospital. They are

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Speaker 1: so are they appear to be so horrendous, you know,

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Speaker 1: the stabbing of his face. I kinda like, does this

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Speaker 1: make me morbid?

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Speaker 2: That?

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Speaker 1: I was like, if that happened more often, people might

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Speaker 1: tolerate these very violent offenders getting just released back into

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Speaker 1: society less like. I mean, we all saw that, were like, wow,

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Speaker 1: this is pretty vicious on this dude victim's photo.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 1: That's horrible to say, But would that be the determent?

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Speaker 1: Because I think that's what sticks in everybody's mind is,

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Speaker 1: look at what this Sanchez allegedly did to this guy.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it looks horrible. What if that was

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Speaker 1: with everybody?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think that's the case, Rob, because look

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Speaker 2: at Charlie Kirk that video. We saw him being assassinated

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Speaker 2: at Utah Valley University. And did that stop any politicians

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Speaker 2: Maybe a day or so, maybe two or three days,

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Speaker 2: But that did not stop people from using political rhetoric

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Speaker 2: to kind of fan the flames of political violence. I

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Speaker 2: don't we see these photos all the time. The only

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Speaker 2: reason that Perry Told's attorneys in my opinion dropped these

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Speaker 2: photos is to tug at the heartstrings and get their

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Speaker 2: case emboldened.

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Speaker 1: Their charges elementor yeah, yeah, and it also probably helps

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Speaker 1: with the civil laws.

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Speaker 2: Of course, of course it does. And I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: that Perry Told is not injured, but propping him up

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Speaker 2: in a neck brace and maybe putting some I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying this happen, but you know in cases where this

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Speaker 2: has happened, I know people that have kind of made

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Speaker 2: the injuries more stand out, put vast lean on the

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Speaker 2: stores and make them glisten, you know, in the photos

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Speaker 2: that I don't know, stuff happens like that.

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