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Speaker 1: Hammer and Nigel do you believe these characters are weirdos?

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Speaker 2: My name is Nigel Jason Hammer. Right over there a

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Speaker 2: big rally at the state House today for those in

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Speaker 2: favor of redistricting, redrawing them apps and my rally. It

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Speaker 2: wasn't exactly property tax rally level earlier this year, which

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Speaker 2: you and Rob Kendall were in attendance, but we mean

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Speaker 2: a handful of people were there. I saw some pictures

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Speaker 2: that the Lieutenant governor posted and that's.

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Speaker 3: Kind of par for the course for what Republicans and

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Speaker 3: conservatives do. Like, we're not the protest people. That's not

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Speaker 3: who we are.

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Speaker 2: This wasn't protest. Was a rally, right, but we've done

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Speaker 2: of a protest, so we definitely we don't. We haven't

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Speaker 2: seen in a long time what we saw with property

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Speaker 2: tax correct at the beginning of the year, right in March.

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Speaker 3: Right, that event was a unicorn, because let's be honest,

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Speaker 3: it's the left's game taking off of quote unquote work

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Speaker 3: and going to protest. Conservatives are like, we've got jobs.

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Speaker 3: I'm not taking a day off for this. I'll make

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Speaker 3: my voice heard at the ballot box and if that

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Speaker 3: doesn't work, I'll complain on the message board and the

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Speaker 3: YouTube chat to Hammering ninth.

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Speaker 2: So I will say I think correctly if I'm wrong,

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Speaker 2: I think the property tax rally though also had it

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Speaker 2: was on Saint Patrick's Day, wasn't it It had so

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Speaker 2: that had that going for it.

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Speaker 3: But that was people's money we were talking about. Like, sure,

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Speaker 3: that's how you fire up the conservative base. You start

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Speaker 3: talking about their paychecks. And that's why Yep, St. Patrick's Day,

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Speaker 3: some people still had to work. It's not like it

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Speaker 3: was a federal holiday. You know, it's not like Christmas,

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Speaker 3: you know. But people packed the state House and that

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Speaker 3: event was, as I would say, a unicorn.

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Speaker 2: Big names, including the governor right speaking.

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Speaker 3: But that is the exception and not the rule. What

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Speaker 3: we saw today is kind of the norm for a

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Speaker 3: conservative Republican voting block in central Indie. That's not our thing.

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Speaker 3: We're not BLM. We're not the angry red shirted teachers.

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Speaker 3: They take off work all the time. Now night, you

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Speaker 3: may want to set this one out, but not all

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Speaker 3: of us take off all the time. Oh, it's a

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Speaker 3: pretty solid poly walnuts right there. Oh, but today I

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Speaker 3: don't think it was a rally. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: it was a protest, I'd say it was kind of

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Speaker 3: a get together over at the Indiana State House.

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Speaker 2: And that's fine. I'm hearing. Who was it that I

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Speaker 2: texted you about Michael Young doing an incredible speech down

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Speaker 2: there about redistricting Representative Young, And I'm going to tell

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Speaker 2: you this whole thing of redistricting wasn't on our radar,

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Speaker 2: the property tax thing on our radar, the redistricting thing, right,

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Speaker 2: I'm for it. If it could happen, I wanted it.

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Speaker 4: It's happened.

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Speaker 2: Once it came to Fruition through the calling of the

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Speaker 2: special session, I was like, all right, let's do this.

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Speaker 2: Come on, let's get another couple of seats. And now

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Speaker 2: I'm left yesterday asking the question, what if midterms come

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Speaker 2: and go next year, and we're when I say we,

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Speaker 2: because it didn't happen.

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Speaker 3: With the changing of the congressional map in Indiana. So

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Speaker 3: of the nine seats, Republicans currently have seven. So for

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Speaker 3: seven of the nine districts in the state, nothing's really

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Speaker 3: going to change for you from a personal perspective. And

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Speaker 3: even if you did get a new representative. Maybe nothing

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Speaker 3: would change anyone just thinking the big patriot country wide.

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Speaker 3: I know what I mean, but I'm termed.

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Speaker 2: But hold on.

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Speaker 3: I'm speaking in terms of people getting fired up this cause, right,

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Speaker 3: Like people get fired up about property taxes because that's

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Speaker 4: I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: I'm all about firing Andre Carson because he's done nothing

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Speaker 3: for me. He's my Rep. I live in Indianapolis. This

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Speaker 3: would affect me.

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Speaker 2: You claim him as your rep.

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Speaker 3: Well, unfortunately, the scoreboard says I have to not my president.

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Speaker 3: I saw that bumper sticker today on my way to work.

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Speaker 3: By the way, God, people are still doing that. No

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Speaker 3: good Lord, there's a plan in place, and you guys

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Speaker 3: aren't going to like it, according to the Indiana State Senate.

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Speaker 3: So the legislators spoke a little bit. It was kind

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Speaker 3: of their move in day yesterday, and they spoke to

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Speaker 3: redistrict questions, but they didn't mention that the big issues

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Speaker 3: in this upcoming legislative session would be medicaid and tweaks

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Speaker 2: Now, when I say.

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Speaker 3: Tweaks, this isn't meaning more money for you, or this

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Speaker 3: they're gonna go belly up if you get a few

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Speaker 3: extra dollars in your pockets, even though they've had a

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Speaker 3: ridiculous and frivolous spending over the last decade, they're the

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Speaker 3: ones that are gonna see a tweak.

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Speaker 2: Now, Nige, a few extra dollars and I hate to

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Speaker 2: sound condescending, but three hundred dollars, which most people won't get.

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Speaker 2: Is that what you're talking about.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's way too much according to some of these

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Speaker 3: school corps and some of these local governments. God, that's

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Speaker 3: gonna belly up a lot of places. We're gonna have

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Speaker 3: to get rid of the police. There won't be any EMTs.

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Speaker 3: We're going to sacrifice your first borns. I hope you

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Speaker 3: like your property tax money. These people are ridiculous and

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Speaker 3: they're gonna work on screwing you more a little bit

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Speaker 3: in this upcoming legislative session. Get ready for it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of President Trump, Nige, you brought him up. He

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Speaker 3: is not only calling Indiana's governor Mike Brown. He's speaking

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Speaker 3: to McDonald's employees.

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Speaker 2: Did you see this? I thought I had to send

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Speaker 2: it to you because I never know if anything's real

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Speaker 2: of the internet or not. You asked me, did you

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Speaker 2: make this on Ai?

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 3: He was at the McDonald's franchise owner's convention and the

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Speaker 3: President of the United States was speaking to all the

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Speaker 3: mickey D's owners that had a positive, uplifting message.

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Speaker 6: I'm thrilled to be here with the men and the

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Speaker 6: women who are really the heart and soul of one

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Speaker 6: of the greatest, most admired, and most successful companies in

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Speaker 7: Of the world.

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Speaker 3: Frankly, the one and only McDonald's.

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Speaker 2: I've gone there a couple of times.

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Speaker 3: A couple of times, sure.

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Speaker 6: And I'm honoring to stand before you as the very

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Speaker 2: The United States.

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Speaker 6: And I actually was there for about thirty minutes, and

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Speaker 6: that was thirty minutes longer than Kamala was there despite

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Speaker 6: her job at McDonald's that didn't work too well, and

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Speaker 6: the person at McDonald's that informed us off the record

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Speaker 2: Whoever you are, we appreciate that. That was Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: had to tweet you, text you this morning. I think

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Speaker 2: it was on the can actually when I did and said,

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Speaker 2: did you create this? Is this your AI? Is this real?

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Speaker 2: I just think it's funny that the McDonald's franchise Corporation

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Speaker 2: or whatever it was, asked Donald Trump, the President of

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Speaker 2: the United States, to come speak and he did.

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Speaker 3: Like who did he turned down to accept this? Like

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Speaker 3: in my mind, Caroline love it barges into the Oval Office,

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Speaker 3: mister President's do.

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Speaker 2: You want to speak to this children's hospital?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 2: Do you want to speak to these veterans?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: I already did that. There's a McDonald's convention.

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Speaker 3: Few of the jets go to the McDonald's convention, few

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Speaker 2: How much did that cost for him to go make

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Speaker 2: I love it. He's a consumer.

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Speaker 3: Like if you would have brought some hoity toity, you know,

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Speaker 3: like in shape a person there. They're not eating McNuggets,

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Speaker 3: they're not, you know, eating Big Max. But you bring

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Speaker 3: in Donald Trump. He probably had some on the plane

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Speaker 3: ride over.

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Speaker 2: Damn right he dead wiping the tears out of my eyes, right,

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Speaker 2: now my name is Nigel Jason Hammer. Right over there,

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Speaker 2: there's been a study. Oh, these studies, they're bought and

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Speaker 2: paid for big pharmaceuticals, to covid, to you know, vaccines.

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Speaker 2: But this study, this is the most hated NFL teams

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Speaker 2: in the country. That's what we're paying for here. Okay,

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Speaker 2: they didn't pay for it. Somebody, somebody paid for it.

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Speaker 2: Here's the study. The most hated NFL team in the

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Speaker 2: country is not the Dallas Cowboys. I was going to

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Speaker 2: say the Chiefs. This is Canadian sports betting site used

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Speaker 2: Google keyword planner to figure out which NFL teams is

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Speaker 2: the most hated in the US. Surprisingly, it's not the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs or the Cowboys. It is I didn't say that. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I would then lean toward the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the most hated teams. Maybe I warded that wrong.

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Speaker 2: Here's the most hated team in the US, according to

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Speaker 2: this Canadian sports betting site, the Philly Eagles. Eagle Thirteen states,

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Speaker 2: including Alabama, California, and Texas hate the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: Why do they hate the Eagles? They don't, They don't

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's the fans like Philly Fyea has always been

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Speaker 3: a little on the the unlikable slash punchable side.

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Speaker 2: But they weren't they throwing batteries.

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Speaker 3: It's Santa Yep, they through batteries and snowballs at Santa.

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Speaker 3: They're head coach Nick Siriani punchable face, total punchable face.

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Speaker 3: Remember when he was yelling at Colts fans in that

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Speaker 2: Number two most hated team in the NFL eight states

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Speaker 2: including Colorado, Utah, and Missouri voting for the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's probably older folks doing the survey then, because

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Speaker 3: the Raiders have it mattered in about twenty years, Like

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Speaker 3: so it's kind of hard to hate somebody. It stinks

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Speaker 3: every year, isn't it again?

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Speaker 2: It right? Yeah, what's the point? They're irrelevant again? A

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Speaker 2: sports betting site in Canada used Google keyword to figure

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Speaker 2: out which NFL teams most hated in the US. Number

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Speaker 2: three is a tie the Jets in the Packers six

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to assume Illinois was one of the

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Speaker 3: states that hates the Packers, Bears, Packers rivalry. Sure, and look,

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Speaker 3: I get the Jets. They get shoved down our throats

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Speaker 3: so much from a national media perspective. And that's another

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Speaker 3: poverty franchises.

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Speaker 2: They're horrible this year, the worst team in the league.

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Speaker 2: Let's see, I got another tie for you. And you'll

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Speaker 2: be surprised at this because you already mentioned the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: Number five tie Dallas Cowboys and the Steelers. Three states

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Speaker 2: in the country that voted that they were they hated

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Speaker 2: those frans. Oh, I get it.

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Speaker 3: My colleague Kenny Britz from Degenerates next door, the sports

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Speaker 3: betting guy. He's a big Wheelers guy. Obnoxious. Oh, just

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Speaker 3: every stereotype of a Steelers fan you could imagine.

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Speaker 2: Try Cory in and Jason, my cousins that wear the

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Speaker 2: Yeah again, Pittsburgh. Congratulations, you beat what Cincinnati? Or is

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Speaker 2: Can I tell you something? Being honest with you? Being

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Speaker 3: Oh, a stay at home husband. So would you still

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Speaker 3: Well, there's an end the closet joke that I'm going

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Speaker 2: I saw the stat Hammer and I was just kind

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Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, they're living paycheck to paycheck, but what

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Speaker 11: What?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: What are they spending their money on that doesn't have

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Speaker 2: I hate seeing it. I love donating my time and

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Speaker 3: Correct And this is where that whole living wage conversation

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Speaker 2: It happens.

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Speaker 3: But it's also for some people it's not a requirement

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's not a requirement that you have to go on

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Speaker 2: Man, Oh yeah, in.

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Speaker 3: My twenties too, boy, the college years. Right out of college,

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Speaker 3: like you know this nightge, we were radio kids. We

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Speaker 2: Although I will say that was the one advantage. We

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Speaker 3: the racks up a ball State.

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Speaker 2: Racked inter racks at ball State. Oh yeah, racks on

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Speaker 2: I just I the kind of kind I don't know,

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Speaker 2: is it condescending for me to think it? Probably is

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Speaker 2: it's it's cynical and condescending. Well, what are you spending

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Speaker 2: geese vake cartridges?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: You know that's I think that's a legitimate question to

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Speaker 2: ask to people that are living paycheck to paycheck, that

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Speaker 2: predatory debt, sometimes college debt, those predators, those bastards. I

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I hate relying on the government for anything, I really do.

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Speaker 3: It mix my skin crawl. But as somebody who has

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Speaker 3: I was always looking for ways to better my position,

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Speaker 2: Can almost be a full time job.

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Speaker 3: Like when you get home from your regular shift and

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Speaker 3: look for something to better yourself, Like that's what competitive

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Speaker 2: Do I do TV? What I want to do? Blogging

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Speaker 2: Like, there's always options out it's hustling. It's a guy

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Speaker 2: I could make twice this amount on eBay. If I

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Speaker 2: I see it all the time on Facebook. You guys

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Speaker 3: By the way, We've talked about a lot of serious

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Speaker 3: now the YouTube chat is just talking about Racks, the

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Speaker 3: I miss Racks m Dog seventy to fifty Rax milkshakes

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Speaker 2: I missed that they had the one on West tenth

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Speaker 2: I think I think you guys were rich. It was yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: They later turned it into a Fazolies. Okay, I'm not

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Speaker 3: mad at Fazoli's. I will never criticize Fazzoli's, but man,

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Speaker 3: I kind of miss Racks.

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Speaker 2: Not gonna lie, We're talking about all this stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Missed that they used to have cheeseburgers two for a

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Speaker 3: Roast beef right, because you didn't get burned out on

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Speaker 3: two for one. And if you're a broke college kid man,

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Speaker 3: least get a couple burgers. Michelle Obama says the US

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Speaker 3: is not ready for a woman president.

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Speaker 2: Nige, Oh for god, you sexist.

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Speaker 3: No good, rotten men, you and your penis not ready

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Speaker 3: for a woman president. Hope you proud of yourself. She

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Speaker 2: So the US, she's saying in the United States is

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Speaker 2: England back in the day. She was.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is all about the US voting block right.

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Speaker 2: Now, whatever whatever. If they could do it back in

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Speaker 2: the eighties and nineties with Margaret Thatcher, we can do

443
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Speaker 2: it now. Okay. There just hasn't been a quality candidate.

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Speaker 3: Right I'm telling you if because the way our voting

445
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Speaker 3: works in this country, our elections are now American idol. Basically,

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Speaker 3: if Oprah gets into the race, she's winning the primary

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Speaker 3: and then she's got a chance to win. Same thing

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Speaker 3: with Michelle Obama. But when you trot up there, America's

449
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Speaker 3: drunk wine mom. Kamala Harris, Yeah, she's probably gonna get

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Speaker 3: her ass handed to her in a general election. She's

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Speaker 3: gonna talk about the wheels of the bus and all

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Speaker 3: this nonsense gibberish that comes out of her mouth.

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Speaker 2: And no election, by the way, no no primary, no nothing,

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Speaker 2: just an installation, right right, come on.

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Speaker 3: Michelle Obama, also at that same event, says that she

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Speaker 3: probably the most powerful woman maybe in the country. Michelle Obama,

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Speaker 3: she's up there, says she feels pressured by the white

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Speaker 3: community to look a certain way in public.

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Speaker 12: Let me explain something to white people. Our hair comes

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Speaker 12: out of our head naturally in a curly pattern. So

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Speaker 12: when we're straightening it to follow your beauty standards, we

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Speaker 12: are trapped by the straightness. That's why so many of us.

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Speaker 2: Can't swim and we run away from the water.

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Speaker 12: People won't go to the gym because we're trying to

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Speaker 12: keep our hair straight.

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Speaker 2: For y'all, it is exhausting and it's.

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Speaker 12: So expensive, and it takes up so much time.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you're so oppressed.

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Speaker 12: Greats are for y'all, so we can work harder and

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Speaker 12: focus on the work. So why do we need an

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Speaker 12: act and an act of law to tell white folks to.

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Speaker 4: Get out our hair.

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Speaker 12: Don't don't tell me how to wear my hair.

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Speaker 2: Where does she tell white folks anytime I hear white folks,

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Speaker 2: I'm just you lost to me. White folks voted for

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Speaker 2: your husband twice once here in this state. White folks

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Speaker 2: are the reason why you have multimillion dollar mansions on

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Speaker 2: Martha's vineyard. They buy your books, they watch your stupid

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Speaker 2: Netflix shows.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I know there's some tongue in cheek there, Hammer, but

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Speaker 2: come on, give me a break every once in a while.

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Speaker 2: Maybe she's not in the mood for white Shenanigans, which

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Speaker 2: we certainly haven't nailed that down yet. No, you don't

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Speaker 2: know what that is, uh Nige.

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Speaker 3: If you need a reason to drink tonight. Happy fifty

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Speaker 3: seventh birthday to actor Owen Wilson fifty seven today.

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Speaker 2: Oh Owen Wilson, some would.

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Speaker 3: Say wedding crashers, signature movie. Kids would know him as

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Speaker 3: the voice of Lightning mcqueenow and I.

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Speaker 2: Love him as Kevin and meet the parents. Ben's Ben

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Speaker 2: Stiller's fiance's ex boyfriend. How much damn lacker do you

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Speaker 2: have on that? Then?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 2: And then of course Zulander, Yes, hand soul? How old

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Speaker 2: is he?

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Speaker 3: Fifty seven? Fifty seven years old? Always plays kind of

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Speaker 3: like a cool laid back, kind of a loof borderline stoner.

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Speaker 2: But but okay, so you're saying Wedding Crashers is his

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Speaker 2: signature movie?

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Speaker 13: You think so?

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Speaker 3: Yes, And I'm not even saying he's the star. He

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Speaker 3: and Vents Vaughan co star that.

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Speaker 2: They co star that thing. I would say that, and

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Speaker 2: then meet the parents. I would agree.

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Speaker 3: And voiceover work has been huge for Owen Wilson too.

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Speaker 3: But there is one line that he's most famous for.

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Speaker 2: If you watch an.

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Speaker 3: Owen Wilson movie long enough, you will hear him say

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Speaker 3: wow at some point.

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Speaker 2: Wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow

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Speaker 2: wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow.

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Speaker 2: It's a wow montage actually did hit a rare in there,

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Speaker 2: which I believe was from Wedding Crashers and his interaction with.

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Speaker 3: Kitty Cat called Kitty Care Kitty Cam.

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Speaker 2: If you remember, do you mote about him? They built

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Speaker 2: for comfort, They built for speed and for comfort.

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Speaker 3: It's the Hemmer and Nigel Show.

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Speaker 2: All right, hey, Marer, what were you just telling me

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Speaker 2: about the Epstein files and the House vote?

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Speaker 3: So it passed through? Okay, today was the day where

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Speaker 3: we're going to release them. Donald Trump said, Republicans go nuts.

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Speaker 3: I got nothing to hide. I'm tired of dealing with

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Speaker 3: this crap. Just release it all out. This is a

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Speaker 3: Democrat operative thing. They want to distract and attach Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump's name to all this.

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Speaker 2: That's just what this is.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing that's by partisan Washington, nothing except for this.

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Speaker 3: The vote to release the Epstein files passed four point

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Speaker 3: twenty seven to one in the House of Representatives. The

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Speaker 3: only no was Representative Clay Higgins. He's a Republican. Everybody

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Speaker 3: else voted yes to pass it through. The bill will

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Speaker 3: now head to the Senate. Now this is where it's

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Speaker 3: going to get a little dicey. Is the Senate going

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Speaker 3: to vote to pass it through? But now you've got

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Speaker 3: Trump's blessing, like you've got an excuse if you will, go,

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Speaker 3: go for it, pass it through, get it out there.

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Speaker 3: Let's see what you got, because I'm willing to bet,

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Speaker 3: like we said yesterday, it's gonna be a whole lot

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Speaker 3: of nothing. Nobody's gonna end up going to jail, even

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Speaker 3: though people totally should, and it's going to waste everybody's time.

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Speaker 2: And what's in these files? I keep on hearing files,

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Speaker 2: client lists, pictures, labeled compact discs at the time with

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Speaker 2: with photos on them. Like, what are in the files?

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Speaker 5: The files?

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Speaker 3: The file files, unless it's a list of people we

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Speaker 3: need to arrest.

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Speaker 2: I do not care.

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Speaker 3: I really don't. We already know Jeffrey Epstein was a creeper.

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Speaker 3: We know he was a pedophile. We know Glane Maxwell

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Speaker 3: was a monster. We know children we're having sex again,

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Speaker 3: there will with older people on that island. Galaid Maxwell

553
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Speaker 3: is locked up right now for sex trafficking to nobody.

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Speaker 3: Find out who she was sex trafficking to.

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Speaker 2: When you say locked up, she's probably playing pickleball right

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Speaker 2: now in Texas right a club fed. As we put

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Speaker 2: it yesterday, there.

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Speaker 3: Are red roof ends in this country that are in

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Speaker 3: worse conditions. Trust but trust me, I know firsthand. Marjorie

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Speaker 3: Taylor Green Large March, MTG. She's been very outspoken about

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Speaker 3: wanting these Epstein files.

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Speaker 2: Released representative out of Georgia.

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Speaker 3: It caused a little riff between her and President Trump

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Speaker 3: because early on Trump was like, don't even put it

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Speaker 3: out there, there's nothing in there, it's a waste of time.

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Speaker 3: She was like, no, we have to get these out there.

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Speaker 3: She was called a trader Marjorie Trader Green by Donald Trump,

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Speaker 3: whoa She spoke at a rally today and she was

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Speaker 3: surrounded by some of the alleged victim from Epstein Island.

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Speaker 14: I was called a trader by a man that I

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Speaker 14: fought for five no actually six years for and I

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Speaker 14: gave him my loyalty for free. I won my first

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Speaker 14: selection without his endorsement, beating eight men in a primary.

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Speaker 14: And I've never owed him anything, but I fought for him,

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Speaker 14: for the policies and for America first. And he called

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Speaker 14: me a trader for standing with these women and refusing

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Speaker 14: to take my name off.

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Speaker 3: The discharge petition.

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Speaker 14: Let me tell you what a trader is. A trader

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Speaker 14: is a is an American that serves foreign countries and themselves.

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Speaker 14: A patriot is an American that serves the United States

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Speaker 14: of America and Americans like the women standing behind me.

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Speaker 2: So what is she actually trying to say about Donald Trump?

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Speaker 3: Try to say that he was suppressing the release of

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Speaker 3: information that could lead to the arrest of pedophiles. That's

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Speaker 3: what she's saying. Now, is this beef with Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: about that? Or is it something else? We'll get to

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Speaker 3: that here in just a moment. But again, four twenty

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Speaker 3: seven to one, that's what the House voted to release

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Speaker 3: the Epstein files. Before we get into more layers of

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Speaker 3: this MTG thing, yes or no, will anybody be arrested

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Speaker 3: as a result of these files being arrested?

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Speaker 2: Make the call ooh ummm.

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Speaker 12: No.

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Speaker 2: We go through this every time, with every committee hearing,

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Speaker 2: with every release of every file. Hammer you know the

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Speaker 2: answer to this. You didn't have to. I understand you're

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Speaker 2: asking me rights rhetorically. No, and that's a shake.

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Speaker 11: No.

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Speaker 2: No, nobody's gonna get arrested. Everybody that's the only people

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Speaker 2: that are in jailor had anything to do with this.

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Speaker 2: Galliene Maxwell, the groomer, the woman that would procure the

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Speaker 2: talent and bring him to Epstein Island, learn how to

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Speaker 2: fly a helicopter, for God's sake, because the helicopter pilots

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Speaker 2: were looking at her sideways bringing these girls in to

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Speaker 2: the Virgin Island. Saint John's and the other guy's dead, right,

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Speaker 2: the other guy's dead, suicided. So Scott Jennings, who is

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Speaker 2: the Republican on the CNN panels, but not a token

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Speaker 2: republic not a He's a real Republican, right.

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Speaker 3: Not like when MSNBC brings on Kenzinger or Cheney, lis Cheney,

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Speaker 3: he actually spars with these people. He feels like this

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Speaker 3: Marjorie Taylor Green Trump thing, is it even about Epstein.

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Speaker 3: It's because Trump allegedly hurt her feelings by telling her

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Speaker 3: you shouldn't run for the Senate seat in Georgia because

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Speaker 3: you get your ass handed to you.

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Speaker 13: Based on what I've heard and what I know that

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Speaker 13: he didn't tell her not to run, But what she

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Speaker 13: didn't say was that he sent her a poll privately, discreetly,

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Speaker 13: and it had information in it, and it showed her

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Speaker 13: down twenty points to John Assoff.

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Speaker 2: And so in politics, when you want to send.

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Speaker 13: A message to someone that you like or that has

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Speaker 13: been an ally, he don't embarrass them publicly. You privately

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Speaker 13: send them information and show them what the reality is.

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Speaker 13: And so I think it's true that he didn't tell

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Speaker 13: her not to run, but it's also true that he

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Speaker 13: did her a big favor, which is to show her

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Speaker 13: information that a candidacy statewide and Georgia for her would

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Speaker 13: have been a disaster.

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Speaker 3: So some feel like large Marge was like, Oh, you

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Speaker 3: don't think I got a chance here, You're going to say,

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Speaker 3: I get my ass handed to me. I'm going to

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Speaker 3: go against you on the Epstein files. I'm going on

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Speaker 3: the view, I'm going on CNN. You don't tell me

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Speaker 3: what to do in Georgia. And now we're playing the feud.

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Speaker 2: Did you imagine and Marjorie Taylor, you're like rolling over

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Speaker 2: one morning and seeing, uh, Donald J. Trump a text

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Speaker 2: message and it's just a poll saying yeah, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: get your ass handed.

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Speaker 3: To you by ass off ass of sixty U forty.

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Speaker 2: That's it's not good. That's gotta be. That's not what

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Speaker 2: you want to see first thing in the morning when

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Speaker 2: you're rolling out of it. Cool, not at all.

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Speaker 12: Not.

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Speaker 2: It never endorsed her to begin with. He never endorsed

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Speaker 2: her to begin with, not.

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Speaker 3: The first time around the board. Yeah, this is uh,

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Speaker 3: this is a little feud here and it's still going on.

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Speaker 15: Uh now.

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Speaker 3: House Speaker Mike Johnson jentson. He said that the reason

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Speaker 3: why a lot of Republicans were leary of releasing or

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Speaker 3: voting to release the files. It still has to go

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Speaker 3: through the Senate, but voting to release the files is

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Speaker 3: that all right, you want all this information out there.

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Speaker 3: It's now public information. There's a lot of victim names,

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Speaker 3: a lot of these victims are going to be humiliated

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Speaker 3: and embarrassed. But if this is what you want, here

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Speaker 3: we go.

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Speaker 16: From the very beginning, our side has been insistent that

660
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Speaker 16: this matter must be handled very carefully, with the utmost

661
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Speaker 16: caution and care for the victims. We want maximum transparency.

662
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 16: We have always been about that. We want every single

663
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Speaker 16: person who had any sentilla, there's any scintilla of evidence

664
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Speaker 16: but they were involved in the Epstein evils. They need

665
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 16: to be brought to justice and it should have been

666
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 16: done a long time ago. True, we need to find

667
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 16: out who those people are. But in the meantime, you

668
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 16: have to remember there are real people's, innocent people's lives

669
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Speaker 16: at stake here, and young victims who don't want to

670
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 16: be dragged into this political game because it could hurt

671
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Speaker 16: further what they've already endured. They would be made to

672
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Speaker 16: suffer more harm if Congress is not careful in what

673
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Speaker 16: we're doing. And unlike our very important work that's underwear

674
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Speaker 16: in the House Service Sight Committee, the Democrat led discharged

675
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 16: petition would carelessly dump thousands of documents without proper protections

676
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Speaker 16: for the innocent.

677
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 2: Years and years and years to redact those names in

678
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 2: those files.

679
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 3: To put this in a local term though, like some

680
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 3: of these people in the Epstein files might be taking

681
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 3: the page out of Jennifer Ruth Green's playbook. Now, if

682
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 3: you remember, she was the one that had her sexual

683
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 3: assault outed by Politico, like the Adam Morn Politico people,

684
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 3: they a weasel allegedly outed her sexual assault against her

685
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 3: wishes to help Frank Mrvan win that seat, and she

686
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 3: was begging them not to do it for whatever reason.

687
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 3: Maybe she felt humiliated, maybe she didn't want to relive

688
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 3: a bad memory, she did not want it out there.

689
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 3: But Politico, boy, they had no problem doing that. And

690
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 3: maybe that's where House Speaker Johnson's coming from here. Just

691
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 3: little food for thoughts, reaction, reaction from the victims. And

692
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 3: there are thousands of names associated with Epstein, by the way,

693
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 3: way that had nothing to do with any of this

694
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 3: stuff too, that that's another consideration they're making. Hell one

695
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 3: of those names, it might be Donald Trump, and so

696
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 3: they find a smoking gun that connects him to having

697
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 3: sex with kids. This whole thing, which, let's be honest,

698
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 3: it's about him, it's not about Epstein. It's not about

699
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 3: the victims, It's about Trump. This whole thing is gonna

700
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 3: be a big waste of time.

701
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Speaker 2: Presents.

702
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Speaker 5: It depends upon what the meaning of the word is.

703
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Speaker 5: Is this anything.

704
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Speaker 2: Red you by Indiana Unclaimed presented by the Attorney General's

705
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: Office here in Indy reuniting Hoosiers with over one million

706
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: dollars in unclaimed property every single week past, easy and free.

707
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: Just look it up, put your name in, put your

708
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 2: put your family's names in Indiana Unclaimed dot gov. Is

709
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: this anything?

710
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 3: A Jet Blue flight from Boston to Tampa had to

711
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 3: turn around and make an emergency landing because somebody was

712
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 3: vaping weed in one of the bathrooms, of course, and

713
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 3: then due to the filtration system, the crew started inhaling

714
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 3: the weed smell. Here are the pilots making the call

715
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 3: to Air Traffic Control eleven ninety one.

716
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 11: I'd have some questions as the cockpit secure right now?

717
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 10: Hey for our topic six Here we had a customer

718
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 10: vape in the lab and we ye smoking marijuana in

719
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Speaker 10: the lab. Which would like to turn to Boston one

720
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Speaker 10: Roger for jefflu eleven ninety one. Yeah, we had a

721
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 10: security issue with a passenger mostly at the service of

722
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 10: smoking marijuana. Our crew inhaled it, and now we're overweight landing.

723
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Speaker 10: So that's the main reason for the emergency.

724
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Speaker 2: What was that at the end the crew inhaled it.

725
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 2: But but but he said something else. He said there,

726
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Speaker 2: now we're overweight landing. Did they start getting the munchies

727
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: and rating the snack cabinet or is that some sort

728
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 2: of aviation? I just gonna say it must be some

729
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 2: I tell you what, though I have. Here's what it

730
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:19,959
Speaker 2: sounded like. A few moments later after that initial call

731
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Speaker 2: to the air traffic control, we had a humber.

732
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Speaker 10: Yeah, we have a security passenger spoke in marijuana. Our

733
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Speaker 10: crew inhaled it.

734
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Speaker 2: Hereas it back. Yeah, that's serious. That is serious. That

735
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Speaker 2: is something for sure.

736
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Speaker 3: Sort of the end there kind of sounded like hawkst

737
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Speaker 3: do an oppressor?

738
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Speaker 2: Is this anything?

739
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 3: Actor comedian American treasurer Adam Sandler. He's on the new

740
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 3: episode of Letterman's Netflix series My Next Guest needs no introduction, Okay.

741
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 3: In the trailer they just released, Sandler talks about just

742
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 3: bombing one night on stage.

743
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 17: I did this one show in Boston and my dad

744
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 17: and brother came to see it when I was seventeen,

745
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 17: and I ate it so hard in front of my dad,

746
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 17: and I hated that, and the MC came on after

747
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 17: and I walked off into the humiliation of repeating it.

748
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 2: But he says, Adam, we are the class clown in school.

749
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 17: And I go yeah, and he goes stick with that

750
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 17: and the place goes oh, and I was like, oh, man,

751
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 17: not hurt in front of.

752
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Speaker 6: Hop There's no more period of vulnerability, yes than those

753
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Speaker 6: few moments.

754
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Speaker 2: I don't think this is anything. I like Adam Sandler,

755
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 2: but I have not seen any movie of his since

756
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 2: Happy Gilmore Too, which is recent which came out this year.

757
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 2: But before Happy Gilmore Too, I know you have a

758
00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 2: the gambling movie that he Uncut Gems is at Worth.

759
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 3: It's not a comedy, Like if you're wanting Sandler, that's

760
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 3: not your movie.

761
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 2: Okay, but is it good? Is it? Is it interesting?

762
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 2: It's a good movie? Is a movie? It's a drama? Yeah? Okay.

763
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 2: After Uncut Gems, Sandler did Goldman Versus Silverman, No Idea

764
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 2: anybody nothing? Uh, Hubie Halloween awful? Oh you watched it?

765
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 3: So we were looking for like as Julie Bowman in

766
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 3: it too, right, Yeah, And it's got all of his

767
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 3: Buddies in it too, like Schneider's in it and Kevin

768
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Speaker 3: James stunned.

769
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Speaker 2: I've never even.

770
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Speaker 18: Heard of it.

771
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 5: It's on Netflix.

772
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 2: Is a Netflix Halloween movie?

773
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 3: Right, we were looking for Halloween specials. We had a

774
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 3: movie night. It was like, it's a Sandler Halloween movie.

775
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: Let's watch it. And it was awful. I mean, it sucks.

776
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: So I look. I like Adam Sandler and I'll probably

777
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 2: watch it because of his his body of work before

778
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: you know, Hotel Transylvania two, I just like grown ups.

779
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: The first one was fine. I like both of them.

780
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,919
Speaker 2: I admit, did you did you? Did you like Click Click?

781
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: Was okay? Okay? Did you like his serious ones? Did

782
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: you like Spanglish? Never saw it? Uncut Gems was really serious.

783
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 2: It's good Uncut Gems. All right, I'll go back and

784
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 2: watch Uncut Gems and I'll see it.

785
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 3: But you still have yet to see That's my boy,

786
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 3: and that ticks me off, like because I know you

787
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 3: would love it.

788
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 2: That's and who's his Candy Sandberg?

789
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 4: Yes?

790
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:41,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, he plays Sandler plays his his biological dad

791
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 2: that abandoned him and reunited with him.

792
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 3: Or something like that got locked up because he was

793
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 3: doing the hibbitty dibity with his teacher and okay, like

794
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 3: great cameos in there. You're gonna love Vanilla Ice. I'm

795
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 3: telling you, that's my boy. It's dirty Sandler, like the

796
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 3: way his comedy used to be when he was younger,

797
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 3: because he became like a family man. Yeah, like the

798
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 3: Hotel Transylvania stuff. If you remember told Booth Willie Sandler.

799
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 3: Oh dear, you're going to enjoy that's my boy. That's

800
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 3: all I'm gonna say.

801
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 2: Okay, that's it. Buckle up. Anything can happen here, tell you.

802
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 2: Hammer and Nigel present, all right, Caller Roulette. Before we

803
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: get to color Reulet, we got to address something we

804
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,439
Speaker 2: were talking about earlier. We had this story about an

805
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 2: emergency plane landing. Like the plane was taken off from

806
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: Boston to Tampa, had to make an emergency turnaround because

807
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 2: somebody was smoking weed on the plane right right, And

808
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 2: so we do we have the audio of the thing.

809
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 3: The pilot's calling the air traffic control controller.

810
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 11: I'd say some questions as the cockpit secure right now, Hey,

811
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 11: for our toxics here, we had a customer shape in

812
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 11: the lab and with yeah, smoking marijuana in.

813
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 10: The lab would like to turn weed for Jeff eleven

814
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 10: ninety one. Yeah, we have a security issue with a

815
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Speaker 10: passenger mostly at the services smoking marijuana. Our crew inhaled

816
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 10: it and now were overweight landing. So that's the main

817
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 10: reason for the emergency.

818
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 2: Now, now I theorized he said the crews overweight. I

819
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 2: theorized they started snacking.

820
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 3: They got high and started eating all these on board.

821
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Speaker 2: That's what happens when you smoke marijuana. You get the munchies.

822
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 2: And now the plane's way overweight, and now they don't

823
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 2: know what to do. But we were severely corrected even

824
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 2: as I was making a joke, and I didn't know this.

825
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 2: We've got several text messages, text messages from dignitaries across

826
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 2: the state from the YouTube chat. The flight was overweight

827
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 2: because they took off with a full load of fuel,

828
00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 2: not because the flight of and smell the marijuana and

829
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 2: got the munchies. I was joking. Now I didn't know.

830
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 2: That's why the reason why he said it was overweight, right,

831
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 2: I figured you even said it. You said it was

832
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 2: like a flight term term. You would have thought, though.

833
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 3: We went on the air and said, does anybody know

834
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 3: the name of the current president of the United States.

835
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 3: The way we got texts and tweets. People couldn't get

836
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 3: through for call a roulette because they were calling Allison.

837
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 2: Saying the reason they say overweight is so thank you,

838
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Speaker 2: we got it.

839
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Speaker 6: Thank you.

840
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Speaker 2: It's a joke. You get the munchies, you start eating

841
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 2: everything in sight when you have marijuana. That's the way

842
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 2: I took it.

843
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 3: Right now, We did learn that. That is, you know

844
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 3: the term you got too much gas and you.

845
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 2: Got to land. You're heavy. You're heavy.

846
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 3: And we know this because six five hundred and fifty

847
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 3: four people always sparked it at the same time.

848
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 2: Smart people.

849
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 3: We do the best listeners in the business.

850
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 2: Baby, love it.

851
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 3: Now, let's get into whatever the hell this is going

852
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 3: to be. Oh no, if you're on hold again. The

853
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 3: rules are simple. We have no idea what you want

854
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 3: to talk about. We didn't screen any of these calls out.

855
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 3: All we have is your name, keep it brief, keep

856
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 3: it clean. Other than that, let's rock Kevin. You're up first.

857
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 2: What you got buddy?

858
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 19: Yeah, I was just going to talk about Braun and

859
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 19: the redistricting. Republicans are great on policy, but they're just

860
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 19: terrible messaging. And I just don't think that he understands

861
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 19: that Trump is playing chess, not checkers on this. This

862
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 19: is not about the two or three seats that they're

863
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 19: going to squeak out in Indiana. This is about the overall.

864
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Speaker 19: The Democrats have been doing this for decades and decades,

865
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Speaker 19: and we're talking dozens and dozens of seats. But until

866
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Speaker 19: you do what they're doing, then they overplay their hand

867
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 19: and go crazy about then you can get policy done

868
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Speaker 19: to do the whole fair. And I just don't think

869
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Speaker 19: that he quite understands that, and I wish he did.

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Speaker 2: Right on. Thank you, Kevin.

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00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 3: Again. Governor will be in here in less than a

872
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 3: half hour and we're going to get as many questions

873
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 3: in as we can. Again, our time is limited, but

874
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Speaker 3: I'm going to do as much rapid fire with the

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00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 3: governor as we possibly can. Gordon is up next. Gordon.

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Speaker 2: What you got, Buddy Bordo?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, I just wanted to say I love the show.

878
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Speaker 20: I listen every afternoon on the way home from work,

879
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 20: but I didn't get to hear the guy Rielford on Monday.

880
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Speaker 20: I just want to know if you guys could briefly

881
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Speaker 20: go back over what you talking to guy Rielford about

882
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 20: the shooting m Whitestown.

883
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Speaker 2: Sure.

884
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 3: Now, if you have any sort of internet access, you

885
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Speaker 3: can go to WIBC dot com and hear the full conversation.

886
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Speaker 3: Allison does a great job of doing the podcast. We've

887
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Speaker 3: put it up on our Facebook and our Twitter as well.

888
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Speaker 3: But Nudge, how would you recap it?

889
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Speaker 2: Briefly? Very little he could say specifically about his client

890
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Speaker 2: who fired the shot through the door and and unfortunately

891
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Speaker 2: a woman died. I would say he is relying heavily

892
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Speaker 2: on the castle doctrine correct state, which is pretty strong.

893
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Speaker 3: This is going to come down to whether or not

894
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Speaker 3: you can prove that that little area of the porch

895
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Speaker 3: I think they called it a credits or something like that.

896
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Speaker 3: I've probably butchered the term. But that area around the

897
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Speaker 3: porch where somebody's jiggling keys trying to get into your home,

898
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Speaker 3: is that part of your castle? And did his client

899
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Speaker 3: legitimately fear for the safety of himself and his family

900
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Speaker 3: at home? So those are the things that the judge

901
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 3: the jury are really going to have to take advice on.

902
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 3: And that's pretty much the summary of our conversation.

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Speaker 2: Go back and again listen to it. Yesterday's podcast.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it's all out there WIBC dot com. Joe

905
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Speaker 3: is up next, Joe? What you got, Bud?

906
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Speaker 7: That guy that was a Navy guy that won that

907
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 7: concert tickets sometime back with that Brett Michaels deal.

908
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Speaker 5: Was that what that was? You remember?

909
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Speaker 2: Nope?

910
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Speaker 7: Well yeah, anyway, I'm retired Army and I wanted to

911
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 7: rad that guy. I'm sure he's listening. But this is

912
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Speaker 7: the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of both the Navy

913
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Speaker 7: and the Army. But do you know what the difference

914
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 7: is between a fairytale and a sea story?

915
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 12: Is?

916
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 4: What's that?

917
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 7: The fairytale begins with Once upon a time and the

918
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 7: sea story begins with You're not gonna believe this, but

919
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Speaker 7: go Army beat Navy.

920
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Speaker 2: All right, there we go. All right, let's go to Roger.

921
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to Roger Dodger. What's up, my man?

922
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 2: Look that up?

923
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Speaker 5: Hey you guys are great, by the way, Thanks, But.

924
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just kind of curious. I still, I guess

925
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Speaker 1: I don't understand how Braun dropped the ball for the

926
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Speaker 1: whole State Tech text thing. I'm a little bit younger

927
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Speaker 1: than my mother in law, but she's owneder her house

928
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: for over fifty years, and I'm just kind of standing

929
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 1: back thinking, how long do you have to own your

930
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: house and had to still pay on it?

931
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Speaker 2: I mean, whatever deal with that?

932
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, well I understand. But England, the queen

933
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Speaker 1: owns everything, well not the queen anymore, but the king

934
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Speaker 1: owns everything. And you know, I guess that's how life

935
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Speaker 1: is there. But America, we're supposed to be free and

936
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Speaker 1: own a piece of property.

937
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Speaker 3: You're right, and Roger I would say that there's more

938
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Speaker 3: than one person to blame for this property tax fiasco

939
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Speaker 3: that we got stuck with. I put a lot of

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Speaker 3: it on Rod Bray, the set of proteim. This was

941
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 3: nothing that interests him at all. Could not care less

942
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 3: if you got extra money in your pocket. But his cronies,

943
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 3: his inner circle, his group of elite butts differs. They

944
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 3: were all about making sure they got theirs. When business

945
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Speaker 3: deals get property tax involved, now they make financeel gains.

946
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Speaker 3: This is why guys like Scott Baldwin were in charge

947
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Speaker 3: of this bill. His business was going.

948
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Speaker 2: To make money.

949
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Speaker 3: The actual taxpayer is going to get screwed. That's all

950
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 3: that matters to guys like Rod Bray. So yes, you

951
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,439
Speaker 3: can blame Braun from maybe not fighting for it more.

952
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 3: You can blame Micah Beck with for being you know,

953
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 3: you were too over the top and you over promised

954
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 3: and underdelivered. But I think the biggest blame needs to

955
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 3: go on the Senate. Rod Bray's got the power now.

956
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 3: It's ridiculous that he's the most powerful guy right now

957
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 3: in Indiana, and we can have that conversation, but he

958
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 3: is right now the most powerful dude, and he wanted

959
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 3: no part of any of us getting tax relief. I

960
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 3: promise you, Pat gets the last word here. Pat, what's up?

961
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Speaker 4: Hi, guys?

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Speaker 15: I just want to tell you that you have given

963
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 15: this ninety year old braw the greatest, greatest fun time ever.

964
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Speaker 7: So I just want to call and thank you for that.

965
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Speaker 2: All Right.

966
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 15: Along one Saturday morning and I hear my name, Well,

967
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 15: you've got Sullivan and you've got Denny Smith. Right, my

968
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Speaker 15: last name is Pat Denny.

969
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 20: So there you go.

970
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 15: I went, Holy cow. I couldn't believe it.

971
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Speaker 3: You're the real Pat Denny of this radio station.

972
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: That's right, You're the real Pat Denny here.

973
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,720
Speaker 15: I know, And I said, I grew up on radio,

974
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 15: never TV, and I said, you have said things on

975
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Speaker 15: radio that my parents or my grandparents, they wouldn't bully

976
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Speaker 15: what you say.

977
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Speaker 2: Well, we got an hour left of this show too.

978
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Speaker 15: Pat, Yes, but you I just I've been going to

979
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 15: do this for agents of it. I pulled in today.

980
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 15: I saw a rainbow coming. I said, my gosh, I'm

981
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 15: going to do it today.

982
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Speaker 2: Okay, tell you sound great, Pat. You don't sound ninety.

983
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Speaker 2: You don't sound ninety at all. You sound great.

984
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 15: A lot of people say, uh no, I don't.

985
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 7: I just want you to know that.

986
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bat God bless you. We thank you so much

987
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 3: for calling in. All Right, good round of calls there.

988
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 3: I think that's a pretty good round Roulette. We need

989
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 3: to give ninety year old Pat like some more airtime,

990
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 3: give her a weekly segment. We need to put the

991
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 3: broad into broadcasting here.

992
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 2: That's what we need to do.

993
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 3: Bring Pad in here, our broad caster.

994
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Speaker 2: I'm a ninety year old broad I think was the

995
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Speaker 2: was the quote.

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Speaker 3: Governor Braun next.

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Speaker 2: me with a very special in studio guest.

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Speaker 3: The governor of the Great State of Indiana is Governor

1015
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Speaker 3: Mike Braun. We want to be respectful of your time.

1016
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Speaker 3: I know there's a lot going on, so we're gonna

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Speaker 3: kind of dive right into it here. Disregard Nige and

1018
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Speaker 3: I if we have a few drinks and beers in between,

1019
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 3: but your thoughts on the leader of the Senate in Indiana,

1020
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 3: Senate pro Tim Rodbray coming out on Friday saying yeah,

1021
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:55,879
Speaker 3: I don't really care what the governor has to say.

1022
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 3: We don't have the votes, so there won't be a

1023
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 3: special session under my watch. Now I'm paraphrasing that, but

1024
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 3: that in essence was his message your thoughts.

1025
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Speaker 18: I could be more concerned about what you're doing when

1026
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 18: the President of the United States calls you out for

1027
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Speaker 18: something that he's made very clear that he wants to

1028
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 18: get it done. And I think that is probably more

1029
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 18: troublesome when it would be what his.

1030
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Speaker 4: Future is like.

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Speaker 18: And today was a lot of action or day and

1032
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Speaker 18: as we were talking earlier, and I don't think he

1033
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Speaker 18: knew that, but the House is coming back to do

1034
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 18: maps and they're coming in so they're going to be

1035
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 18: sending something over to the Senate. And then a rebuke

1036
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 18: of half his caucus when they had that vote on

1037
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Speaker 18: whether to come back or not, and he had to

1038
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 18: get Democrats to go along with him to have the

1039
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Speaker 18: vote scheduled or to come back into session. In January nineteen,

1040
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 18: we're on the roll call against him, and another senator

1041
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,760
Speaker 18: didn't make the roll call vote that said he would,

1042
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 18: so that's half of his caucus voted against him. So

1043
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 18: he's losing control of his own caucus. And when you're

1044
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 18: being talented by the Washington Post, yeah and places like that, Yes,

1045
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 18: you're standing strong.

1046
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 2: What is that setting him?

1047
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 7: Like?

1048
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: God?

1049
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 2: The Washington Post editorial board praising Indiana leaders for standing

1050
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 2: up to Trump. Well, yeah, exactly that is. I saw

1051
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 2: that headline. I was like, Uh, that is not endearing

1052
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 2: to like the Washington Post is such a liberal, horrible rag.

1053
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 2: And boy, when I saw that headline, I was like,

1054
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 2: I don't want to be I wouldn't want to be

1055
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Speaker 2: associated with.

1056
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Speaker 4: Next will be Axios and Politico.

1057
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Speaker 18: And when they're noticing it from out there, you talk

1058
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 18: about getting somebody irritated in the Oval office that will

1059
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 18: do it. So he's in a place now where he

1060
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 18: probably calculated he wouldn't have to be I think I

1061
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 18: told you a week ago this is the beginning of

1062
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 18: the discussion. And the reason he abruptly said they weren't

1063
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 18: going to do it is we were getting that close.

1064
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 18: The White House lists and ours with this public yes

1065
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Speaker 18: in private yes, was somewhere around twenty one or twenty two,

1066
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Speaker 18: And that was over a week ago. So the momentum

1067
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 18: had so much forward momentum to it that that is

1068
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Speaker 18: when he decided I had.

1069
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Speaker 4: To put the brakes on because it could have tipped over.

1070
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Speaker 18: To where now twenty are formally going against him on

1071
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 18: a public roll call vote, so or on the vote

1072
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 18: to go back into session in January?

1073
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Speaker 3: So, Governor, does it feel personal with the Senate pro

1074
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Speaker 3: Tim Rodbray at this point because the two biggest things

1075
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Speaker 3: that we've talked about the last couple of years have

1076
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Speaker 3: been property tax relief and now the changing of the

1077
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Speaker 3: congressional maps. And you guys have kind of been on

1078
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Speaker 3: opposite sides of.

1079
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Speaker 2: The argument here.

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Speaker 3: Is it frustrating to you?

1081
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 2: Does it feel personal to you?

1082
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Speaker 18: Well, I don't let it become personal or frustrating. In

1083
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 18: building a business over thirty seven years, lots of times

1084
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Speaker 18: when you have your own bottom on the line financially

1085
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 18: in your struggling, that's a bigger deal. Running for office

1086
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 18: as a state rep and beating two sitting congressmen and

1087
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Speaker 18: a sitting senator that was hard. And let's say five

1088
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 18: months of negative advertising that you are heartless, a hypocrite,

1089
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Speaker 18: and a liar based on nothing. This is someone making

1090
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Speaker 18: a miscalculation that for some genteel purpose, when the President

1091
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Speaker 18: has talked to him twice, vice President has come in twice,

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Speaker 18: and he's trying to justify that there's not a need

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Speaker 18: to do something because he's not in the.

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Speaker 5: Mood to do it.

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Speaker 18: And then today when the House broke with the Senate,

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Speaker 18: that's the biggest news of the day.

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Speaker 4: So he is getting cornered more and more. And why

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Speaker 4: you would dig in.

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Speaker 18: You need to bring this vote to the public forum,

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Speaker 18: get the maps that they're going to be sent to him,

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Speaker 18: get him across the finish line or else, and he's

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Speaker 18: going to be dealing with him and his whole bunch

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Speaker 18: of folks that have held out to where they had

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Speaker 18: to have Democrats today. Get him across the finish line,

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Speaker 18: and they're going to be looking at longer term political consequences.

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Speaker 18: And Trump's made that very clear. And you've got our

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Speaker 18: entire Republican delegation that's for it. You've got one of

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Speaker 18: our two senators, Jim Banks, that's out there, young I

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Speaker 18: think is probably softly for it.

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Speaker 4: Our state office holders.

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Speaker 18: I mean, you're going against everyone Republicans across the country

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Speaker 18: and here in Indiana.

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Speaker 2: Tell me what it was like, Senior name. You know,

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01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 2: Donald Trump put out that try through social posts and

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01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 2: mentioned you you know, it's mentioned bray and good. But

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Speaker 2: you were mentioned in that too, and then you had

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Speaker 2: a phone call with the President later a day or

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01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 2: two later. Tell me what that was.

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Speaker 4: It was a good phone call.

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Speaker 2: Were you expecting that tweet? I mean, like, were you like,

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Speaker 2: did you know that was coming?

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Speaker 18: So it tells me that this is priority number one

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Speaker 18: for him and he wants everyone to be engaged. Probably

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01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 18: doesn't understand fully the dynamics of how this works. I

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Speaker 18: can call the session in and then the rest is

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Speaker 18: jaw boning and arm twisting, and I think he's wanting everyone,

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01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 18: including me, to take that to the limit, and that's

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Speaker 18: going to occur. And the biggest change in the whole

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01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:52,439
Speaker 18: dynamic occurred today when Speaker of the House who said

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Speaker 18: they had the votes just formalized it by their coming

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01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 18: back in December to give us some apps.

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01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 4: That happening was a game changer.

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01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 18: And now he digs in with another statement that acts like, well,

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01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 18: that may not make a difference. The heat gets turned

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01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 18: up and I'm going to guess we're in the second

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Speaker 18: inning now.

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Speaker 3: Governor Mike Brown joining us here on the Hammer and

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01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 3: Nigel Show. I've heard from some people that say, okay,

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01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 3: this changing in the congressional maps. It's something that I

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01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 3: might be in favor of, but it's not going to

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01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 3: change my life one way or another. There were only

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Speaker 3: two areas in Indiana where this might create a change,

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01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 3: Central Indie with Andre Carson being my rep. And then

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01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 3: the Frank Mervan area up north. What's your response when

1145
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 3: people say, why pick this battle? Why get Washington involved

1146
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 3: into this battle? Where was this moxie when it came

1147
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 3: to property taxes and all these other issues.

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Speaker 18: So the battle was picked by the president in terms

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Speaker 18: of doing it, and Texas did it, Missouri did it,

1150
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 18: North Caroline did it. So you should be able to

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01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 18: put two and two together there and they asked us

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01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 18: to do it. And it was probably three months ago,

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01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 18: and we were picking them off in a way that had.

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01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 4: An organic process to it.

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Speaker 18: Time became an issue when I saw that Bray looked

1156
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 18: like he was going to try to run out the clock.

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01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 18: That is when I decided to call a special session

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01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 18: because at that point, both the White House and our

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01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 18: accounting showed us at twenty one to twenty two senators,

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Speaker 18: fourteen public, six or seven private. Yes, that is the

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01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 18: move that he made that I think was a mistake.

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01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 18: Because he thought by not doing it, he then could

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01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 18: delay it or it doesn't get done. That is what

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01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 18: irritated the president. It irritated me, and picking the battle

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01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 18: on property taxes, you got to remember that was SB one.

1166
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 18: Then he and his leadership team gutted it. So we

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01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 18: had to spend three months to get it back to

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01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 18: where was. Didn't please everyone, but most people when they

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01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 18: know that their home is going to be exempted sixty

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01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 18: six percent of it in five years, and you couldn't

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01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 18: have jerked the money away immediately. The loudest complainers are

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01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 18: Republican local government officials, believe it or not. So that

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01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:19,439
Speaker 18: was the best we were going to get. It wasn't

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01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 18: worth starting over. And you can see why because look

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01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 18: who we're dealing with.

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01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 5: This guy is now.

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Speaker 18: Digging in against the President of the United States, the VP,

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Speaker 18: and look what he's doing, and he's cornering himself in

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01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 18: a place that is not good.

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Speaker 2: And look, I keep on theorizing, you know, the midterms

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01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 2: come and go next year, and what if the Democrats

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Speaker 2: have the majority by one or two Rodden Ray, Yeah, yeah,

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01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 2: I mean that's that's what I keep saying. I'm thinking, Okay,

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01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 2: something could have been done to change that, and I'm

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01:04:58,280 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 2: just I'm speculating.

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Speaker 18: As interesting as this whole dynamic is, yes, you could

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01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 18: almost have crafted a novel around it. In terms of

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01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 18: state politics, federal involvement could very well be the case.

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Speaker 18: The merits why to do it. Six blue estates in

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01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 18: the country are in New England other than California, Massachusetts

1191
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 18: exactly like US, has been jerrymandered to where they haven't

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01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 18: had a Republican in nearly two decades. They control three

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01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 18: times as many electoral votes as the six retis do. Dakota's, Wyoming, Alaska, Montana.

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01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:36,479
Speaker 18: A lot of them have one congressional district. It makes

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01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 18: sense in the Democrats of jerrymandered this as part of

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01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 18: their program, and they don't have much more to do.

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01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,919
Speaker 18: That's why they're raising so much caine about it. But yes,

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01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 18: we generally lose a few seats in this dynamic, and

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Speaker 18: it could come down to where if we don't do

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01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 18: it the one or two seats, now it's nine to zero.

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01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 18: We're going to get it there, and we need deliver it.

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Speaker 18: And that's what they've done in every instance, analogous to ours.

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01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 3: Last thing here before we let you go it seems

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01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 3: like we're always talking about special sessions with you for

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01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 3: one reason or the other. Last year, again it was

1206
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 3: about property tax. Now we're talking about congressional maps changing

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01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 3: in Indiana.

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Speaker 2: So do you feel like.

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Speaker 3: There's a better chance of these maps being changed than

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01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 3: a year ago getting the property tax relief that we

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01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 3: all want? Because you said at that point that special

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01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 3: session was a waste of time.

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Speaker 4: I would say that was seeing into the future.

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Speaker 18: If you were going to get a special session with

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01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 18: any cooperation on that issue, no, it would have been here.

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01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 18: You got the President, the VP, the governor and they're

1217
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 18: digging in. There's no way that would have happened.

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Speaker 4: Governor.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate your time. I know you've got another couple

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01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 3: of events to do here.

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Speaker 5: Are you really ok it's going to be our king?

1222
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 9: Are you okay?

1223
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm fine.

1224
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 5: I'm pretty freeing far from okay.

1225
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 4: Are you okay with this?

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01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 3: On the Hammer and Nigel Howa, we'll do are you

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01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 3: okay with us?

1228
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 2: In just a second.

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Speaker 3: But we just wrapped up a conversation with Governor Mike

1230
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 3: Brawn Again, he's got a national TV hit coming up,

1231
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 3: so our time is always limited. We try to get

1232
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 3: as many questions in.

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01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 2: As we can.

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01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 3: Yes, and we always know we can go back to

1235
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 3: the YouTube or go back to Twitter and find somebody

1236
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 3: completely pissed off. Right, Uh, David Glazer fifty eight eighty

1237
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 3: eight on the YouTube chat, that was a very very

1238
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 3: weak conversation and questioning of the governor, Nigel and Hammer.

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01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 3: I'm disappointed. It seemed like you sucked up to the

1240
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 3: governor instead of going for the truth.

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01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 2: We'll just ask you questions, David.

1242
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 3: It's our job to get his thoughts on things, to

1243
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 3: get him on the record, and I'm not going to

1244
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 3: sit there, tie him up with a belt and yell him.

1245
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 3: That's not the way we do things here. What did

1246
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 3: we ask that you wanted? We talked about Rod Bray.

1247
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 2: Is he a weasel? Is he not?

1248
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 3: Is there beef between you two? We talked a little

1249
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 3: bit about property taxes. What's different about you won in

1250
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 3: this special session compared to the last one. I feel

1251
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 3: like those are the big pieces of the conversation here.

1252
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 3: But according to David Glazer fifty eight eighty eight, until

1253
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 3: we stand him up, tie him up, and burn him

1254
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 3: at the stake, that's not going to be good enough.

1255
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,600
Speaker 3: So sorry, David didn't mean to disappoint you there, but

1256
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 3: these are the questions we've asked on air. And we

1257
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 3: asked the governor of these questions right to his face,

1258
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 3: and we got him pretty much all in and about

1259
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 3: a ten minute conversation a ten minute window. I know

1260
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 3: I sound super defensive here, but this crap wears me out.

1261
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 2: He would have stayed the entire hour if he could.

1262
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 2: He's got a schedule, he's got a national TV hit.

1263
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 3: We didn't ask him a favorite ice cream. We didn't

1264
01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:00,599
Speaker 3: ask him you know, who's the first girl you ever kissed?

1265
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 3: Like some of these biten questions. Everything we asked had

1266
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 3: to do with the state of Indiana.

1267
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 2: I will say I asked him off the air, like

1268
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 2: when Trump calls you, it's on your cell phone or

1269
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 2: is it on like a landline? He's like, it's on

1270
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 2: my cell phone. It's always uh, what do he say?

1271
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 2: Marl Lago or Florida or the Indian zero zero zero?

1272
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 2: I thought it was spammed the first.

1273
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 3: Time, right, But that's what air conversation. We're not gonna

1274
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 3: waste on airtime with that.

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01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think that's pretty interesting myself. I

1276
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 2: don't know so.

1277
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Speaker 3: Again, We're never gonna place anybody. There are some people

1278
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 3: that only want us to talk about property taxes for

1279
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 3: like a full three hour show every single day. Like

1280
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:45,719
Speaker 3: that's Rob Kendall's thing, Right, we'll talk about property taxes

1281
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 3: if we brought it up on them. I'm sure Rob

1282
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:54,799
Speaker 3: will dissect this interview tomorrow like a frog in science

1283
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 3: like lab.

1284
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.

1285
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 3: We asked him right to his face. Is there beef

1286
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 3: between you and Rod Bray? Tell us the difference between

1287
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 3: this special session and the one you wanted for property taxes?

1288
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 2: Come on, guys, he didn't seem like he was a

1289
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 2: big Rod brave Frank Rod Bray fan at all.

1290
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 3: Welcome to the party, pal that mixed two of us.

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01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 2: All right, are you okay with this hammer? I laughed

1292
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 2: because I know what you're gonna say. KFC is selling

1293
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 2: gravy flights for Thanksgiving? Stop talking? Yes, yes, yes, yes,

1294
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,640
Speaker 2: we might need to explain what a flight is. Like

1295
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 2: you go into a brewery. You can order like five

1296
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 2: different mini drinks, many different, a little bit bigger than

1297
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 2: a sample, yeah, a bit bigger than a sample. And

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01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:55,719
Speaker 2: it's called a flight. It's called a flight. But KFC

1299
01:10:55,960 --> 01:11:01,719
Speaker 2: is offering gravy flights for Thanksgiving. Let's see festive feast

1300
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 2: that the meal comes with a bucket of chicken, mashed potatoes, biscuits,

1301
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 2: and a flight of three different gravies brown white, peppercorn

1302
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 2: in one cold Southwest cheddar. Are you okay with this?

1303
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 6: Yes?

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01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 3: I am one okay with this gravy from KFC. Underrated

1305
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:22,640
Speaker 3: like I will die on the hill saying KFC is

1306
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 3: one of the most underrated places you go to. Haven't

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01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 3: ahead of forever? Now you gotta be careful because KFC

1308
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 3: is like dairy Queen. If you live in a large

1309
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 3: enough community, there's usually a good one and one that's

1310
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 3: not as clean. Is that right, Yeah, dairy Queen's like that.

1311
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 3: KFC's like that. You gotta find the good one, you

1312
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 3: gotta find a clean one. But man, KFC is so good.

1313
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 3: It just hits the spot. And they're gravy like you

1314
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 3: can dip the chicken in the gravy, the mashed potatoes

1315
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 3: in the gravy, and now you can dip the gravy

1316
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 3: in the gravy.

1317
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 2: I am here for it. One absolutely white a miss

1318
01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 2: Igel Jason Hammer right over there with a very special

1319
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 2: guest on the hotline.

1320
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 3: Indiana State Senator Michael Young joins US Senator, thank you

1321
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 3: for your time. You had a pretty fiery speech on

1322
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 3: the floor today. For those who did not get a

1323
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,640
Speaker 3: chance to listen to it, walk me through what your

1324
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 3: messaging was.

1325
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 5: Well, let me just say this first.

1326
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 9: I like your quote from the coach, but I have

1327
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 9: a better one from network. I'm mad as hell and

1328
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 9: I'm not going to take it any longer.

1329
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 2: That's right.

1330
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 5: Well, it was just basically this, what are you guys doing?

1331
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 9: We're in this mess because Rod Bray didn't have the

1332
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 9: backbone to make it nine to ozho back in twenty

1333
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 9: twenty one. He could have done it, he didn't do it,

1334
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 9: and now we're sitting here all because he wants to

1335
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 9: be nice and fair. And I said, wait, if you

1336
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 9: want to be nice and fair, why don't you give

1337
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 9: the Democrats they got forty percent of the state vote.

1338
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 5: Why don't you give him two extra congressional seats. Well,

1339
01:12:58,000 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 5: they're not going to do that, and I said, they

1340
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:01,559
Speaker 5: and do it for us either, And that's why we're

1341
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 5: here to help our nation against these.

1342
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 9: Democrat states where I think the governor mentioned there's seven

1343
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 9: of them that don't have any Republican congressmen at all.

1344
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 5: If you look at Illinois, you can.

1345
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 9: Take a picture of that congressional district and put it

1346
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 9: in the dictionary as the definition of jerrymanderin because you

1347
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 9: got a little threm line that runs from the western

1348
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 9: part of Illinois.

1349
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 5: All the way over to eastern point.

1350
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 9: I don't think you can draw another salamander into that

1351
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 9: district that state. Rather, it's done better than anybody I've

1352
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:40,719
Speaker 9: ever seen. They're good at they're cheating. But the point

1353
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 9: was this, we're stuck with this situation. Other states are

1354
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 9: doing it, and off your elections. The president of the

1355
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 9: party in power tends to lose seats, and only two

1356
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 9: times it hasn't happened the last nineteen elections. The last

1357
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 9: one was George W. Bush in two thousand and two.

1358
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 9: For the war years, we've ever lost seats was the

1359
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 9: number of seven. The greatest number was forty eight. I said,

1360
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 9: so basically, you're.

1361
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 5: Telling us for you to feel good, that we don't

1362
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 5: have to redistrict, so you can feel good.

1363
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 9: But when you wake up on Wednesday morning in November

1364
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 9: next year and you wake up and find.

1365
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 5: Out we lost the House by one or two votes.

1366
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 9: Yes, it's going to be on you guys. We're going

1367
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 9: to lose our country. Impeachments will start again, two years

1368
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 9: of impeachments, taking away the attention of the president for

1369
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 9: each country, and additionally stopping.

1370
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 5: Every good program that we've.

1371
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:45,520
Speaker 9: Had, like no tax on tips, no tax on Social Security,

1372
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 9: permanent tax that's for every American, and everything else he's done.

1373
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 9: You guys are willing to do that so you can

1374
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 9: feel good getting you gotta be crazy, you know you

1375
01:14:58,920 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 9: put it so.

1376
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,679
Speaker 2: I've been saying it all week. Senator this is Nigel,

1377
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 2: by the way. I just like the midterms come and

1378
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 2: go next year and somehow the House is the Republicans

1379
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,560
Speaker 2: are down by a couple seats and we're going to

1380
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 2: look back at this moment right exactly.

1381
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 3: I had the chance to fire Andre Carson and didn't

1382
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:21,560
Speaker 3: do it.

1383
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 5: Exactly. Well, you know his thing is, I don't have it.

1384
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 9: I'm talking about Senator Bray. He says, we don't have

1385
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 9: a bill, we don't have enough votes. And I reminded

1386
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 9: just Senator Bray at the mike today, I said, in

1387
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 9: twenty twenty three, what happened, Senator Bray, we didn't have

1388
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 9: a bill in abortion. We didn't have a vote for

1389
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 9: a bill, but you still called us into session. And

1390
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 9: you know, by the time we got out, now only

1391
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 9: did we have a good, halfway decent bill, but we

1392
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 9: had the votes to pass it.

1393
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 5: And now you won't call.

1394
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 9: Us into session to do the very same thing that

1395
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 9: you did in twenty twenty three. And I totally, I said,

1396
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 9: I've been here with special sessions with Republican governors and

1397
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 9: Democrat crat governors, and I've never seen a Republican leader

1398
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 9: slapped the face of our governor by saying, call what

1399
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:16,799
Speaker 9: you want on special sessions.

1400
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 5: I don't not going to listen to you. We've never

1401
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 5: done that to any Democrat governor. We respected their call

1402
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:25,639
Speaker 5: and we went in did our jobs.

1403
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,720
Speaker 9: I said in twenty twenty when we were clamoring to

1404
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 9: get into session on COVID, we were the only branch

1405
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:37,640
Speaker 9: of government we couldn't get in to do anything. We

1406
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 9: said that you can't go to church, but you can

1407
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 9: get drunk, and we couldn't get in, and so we

1408
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 9: had to change the law to keep one guy from

1409
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 9: us getting into special session the governor of the state.

1410
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 9: Now the governor's called the special session and one guy

1411
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 9: stopping us from getting into special session.

1412
01:16:55,800 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 3: You, right, Senator, is the leadership of Rod Bray in

1413
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 3: the Senate indicative of the whole. I know you have

1414
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 3: very different opinions than the Senate pro tem, But as

1415
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:12,479
Speaker 3: for your colleagues here, are they on board with his

1416
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:16,520
Speaker 3: style of leadership or do you feel a pretty big disconnect?

1417
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 5: I think there's a disconnect. I have heard Senator saying

1418
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 5: today it's probably time for him to go now. They

1419
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 5: still need enough votes, but at least are thinking that

1420
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:29,959
Speaker 5: that's encouraging.

1421
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 3: Senator Mike Young joining us here on the Hammer In

1422
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 3: Nigel Show. So the Governor told us earlier that Todd

1423
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 3: Houston in the House, they've agreed to put changing the

1424
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 3: congressional maps on the table here. If the House can

1425
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 3: get something through, they would have to turn it over

1426
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 3: to the Senate and then it would have to be

1427
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 3: an issue that Rod Bray and you guys would have

1428
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 3: to deal with.

1429
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, any thoughts, am. The good thing about

1430
01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 5: this this is once we start, we have to come

1431
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 5: back in. He can't keep us out.

1432
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 9: The rules say that no house can be out of

1433
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 9: session more than three days without commermission of the other House.

1434
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 9: So once the House comes in, we could stay out

1435
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 9: for three days, but we've got to come back.

1436
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 3: So now that we've got this little disconnect that appears

1437
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 3: happening inside the Senate, do you think this is something personal?

1438
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 3: Like I asked the governor this when he was here

1439
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:30,560
Speaker 3: just a few minutes ago. It seems like this is

1440
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 3: almost personal to where anything that he wants to be

1441
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 3: part of his big agenda being the Governor. Rod Bray,

1442
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 3: the Senate ProTem is doing everything in his power to

1443
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 3: take the opposite side.

1444
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 2: Do you get that same feeling.

1445
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 5: Oh, there's no doubt. Look at the property text thing.

1446
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 9: This is the first time, even on governor Or's A

1447
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 9: plus program, it was really had a lot of problems.

1448
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 5: No one liked it, nobody wanted to vote for it.

1449
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:57,680
Speaker 5: But you know what we did.

1450
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 9: We respected the office of governor and gave the bill

1451
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 9: a hearing. I mean we massacred it with amendments when

1452
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 9: it came.

1453
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 5: Down for a vote, and in the end we got

1454
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 5: a bill that they had enough votes to pass.

1455
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 9: But what we didn't tell the governor was we're not

1456
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 9: going to hear your bill. And yet that's what he

1457
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 9: did to our governor he's told the governor of the

1458
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 9: state of Indiana that wanted to protect people's property that no,

1459
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 9: I'm not going to hear your bill.

1460
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,719
Speaker 5: Who are you soon? It's pathetic.

1461
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 3: So what happens next? Right, Okay, we've agreed that there's

1462
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 3: some sort of disconnect. We've got some sort of beef

1463
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 3: between the governor and the leader of the Indiana Senate.

1464
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 3: Everybody's got an our next to the name, but there

1465
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 3: seems like there's a little feud going on here. What's next?

1466
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 3: How do we rectify this situation?

1467
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:48,720
Speaker 9: Well, I call the President of the United States in

1468
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 9: having come up to the Senate and standing there while

1469
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:54,680
Speaker 9: these members going out to vote, while he's watching them,

1470
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 9: I'm guaranteeing you they're not going to turn that vote down.

1471
01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 5: They'll be voting with the President of the United States.

1472
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 2: We heard about it here.

1473
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:05,000
Speaker 5: That was being funny. But what we can do is

1474
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 5: we need five people.

1475
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 9: We know we know that we have twenty votes for sure,

1476
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 9: because it was a kind of a test vote today.

1477
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 5: We know we have twenty.

1478
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 9: I understood from the White House people that we have

1479
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,759
Speaker 9: twenty one, So we need five more people.

1480
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:23,520
Speaker 5: We could do twenty five twenty.

1481
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 9: Five, but The problem was if one Republican that doesn't

1482
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:30,759
Speaker 9: want it, or one Democrat doesn't show up on the floor,

1483
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 9: it's twenty five to twenty four, and Lieutenant Governor can't

1484
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 9: break and do anything. You can only break a tie

1485
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 9: if it's twenty five to twenty five. So we have

1486
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 9: to have all our members there, which means we have

1487
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 9: to have twenty six. We think we're twenty one. We

1488
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:49,599
Speaker 9: need five more brave Republican senators to switch over, which

1489
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 9: I think we can get.

1490
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:54,599
Speaker 2: Could you just review for me again why you said

1491
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 2: there's a Republican that might not want it. Why wouldn't

1492
01:20:59,040 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 2: they want it?

1493
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 5: Well, here here's what they say. We don't think it's fair,

1494
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 5: we don't think it's right.

1495
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 9: And I clearly pointed out from the Florida today, there

1496
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 9: is no rule in the center of the House that

1497
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 9: says we can't do this. There is nothing in the

1498
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 9: constitution that says we can't do it. We have to

1499
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 9: do it the first year after the diceinial census.

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01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 5: We have to do it.

1501
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 9: But there's nothing that prevents us from doing And what

1502
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:28,919
Speaker 9: I didn't mention is that Mike today was we attempted

1503
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 9: to do this in nineteen ninety five.

1504
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 5: We were going to redistrict. We were ready to go.

1505
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:36,719
Speaker 5: The Democrats fled the State House.

1506
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 9: But at that time we had a Democrat governor and

1507
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:41,680
Speaker 9: we had no one to call the state police to

1508
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 9: go out for these runaways and bring them back to

1509
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 9: the State House. So we had to give up our effort.

1510
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 9: Had we had a Republican.

1511
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 5: Governor, we would have gone out and brought him in.

1512
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 5: But we did try it.

1513
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 9: No one said there's a couple of people in the

1514
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 9: Senate now who were there when we attempted this.

1515
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 5: Buck is one of them.

1516
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 9: He never said at that point we shouldn't redistrict in

1517
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 9: the middle of the decade.

1518
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:07,720
Speaker 5: Today he does. I have no idea.

1519
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 9: I'm surprised by Senator Buck's position because of nineteen ninety

1520
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 9: five when we starved together in the House he was fourth.

1521
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 2: Then Senator Mike Young with us.

1522
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 3: Last thing here before we let you go, Senator, a

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Speaker 3: different topic a little bit here. But as you guys

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Speaker 3: get into session, we heard from the movers and shakers

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Speaker 3: that they may be tweaking a few things when it

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Speaker 3: comes to property taxes. Now, it was pretty underwhelming a

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Speaker 3: year ago, and now when I hear tweaking. I'm just

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Speaker 3: assuming that I'm about to get screwed even more.

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Speaker 2: Walk me off the.

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Speaker 9: Ledshet I'm going to tell you I haven't heard that,

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Speaker 9: but I was going to tell you if we're tweaking it,

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Speaker 9: it's not in our favor.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you that, right.

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Speaker 3: I was going to say, talk me off the LEDs here,

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Speaker 3: but I don't think you're going to be able to

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Speaker 3: do it.

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Speaker 5: Coming off the ledge.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, tweaking, not twerking. I want to make that perfectly

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Speaker 3: all right, Senator, we appreciate you taking the time to

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Speaker 3: come on and talk about what's really happening behind the.

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Speaker 5: Seenor people, including Kendall, your friend. Look at the people

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Speaker 5: who voted know today one of them is his.

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Speaker 9: State senator, and tell him, if he wants to do

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Speaker 9: what's right for his country, to call those senators and

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Speaker 9: say vote for redistricteam will do.

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Speaker 11: So.

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Speaker 3: You're asking me to tell Rob Kendall to yell at

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Speaker 3: a politician. All right, I guess.

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Speaker 9: He's got to be on the right side, But right

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Speaker 9: now I.

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Speaker 5: Don't think he's on the right side. But he needs

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Speaker 5: to get on the right side.

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Speaker 3: Senator Mike Young, we appreciate you thank.

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Speaker 5: You, you're welcome.

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