1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: You know, Casey, everybody's a tough guy until you say 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: say it to my face. 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 2: Say it on the internet, come into the studio. 4 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: No, these GOP lawmakers, they're the biggest bunch of gutless cowards, 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: fake phony internet tough guys. I mean it is keyboard Warrior. Yeah. 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: That's had a little little run in last night with 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: a very high profile Republican senator and he got all 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: mouthy and then I said, well, why don't you come 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: say it to my face in front of fifty thousand people, 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden he wanted no part 11 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: of that. 12 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: He said no seals. 13 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 1: So we're going to talk about that a little bit 14 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: later on in the program at least. Yeah, because look, 15 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: this is the thing, right these politicians. This is what 16 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 1: everybody needs to know about these politicians. And it is 17 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: true across the spectrum. Now it's not every single one 18 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: of them, but it is many, many of them. And 19 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 1: this is true with your high profile people on a 20 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: local level. It's certainly true with your state reps and senators. 21 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: It's true with the state wide office holders. It's true 22 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: with your people in Washington, DC. These congressmen and senators, 23 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: they are so unused. They are so not used to somebody, 24 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: certainly with a platform, pushing back on them, calling out 25 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: their bull crap, their hypocrisy, telling the truth about who 26 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: they are and what they're doing. They're used to being 27 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: able to say and do whatever they want, and the 28 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: public being so apathetic or uninformed that the people who 29 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: do show up just kiss their butt cheeks and they 30 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: can get away with them whatever they want. That don't 31 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: work here. So when somebody like me calls them out, 32 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: their ego is so great they can't stand to be criticized. 33 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: They can't stand to be called out, They can't stand 34 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: to be challenged, and so they, in a fit of 35 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: lack of self control, start getting mouthy back on the internet. 36 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: That doesn't go well for him time, and then some 37 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: of them, I think, get told by adult supervision you 38 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: need to stop, right because when all you've been here, 39 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: what three and a half years, going on four years? Right, 40 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: At numerous occasions, some of these people have made the 41 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 1: poor choice to come in here and engage in that conversation. 42 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: How did it go for them? 43 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: Well? That so, well, that's right, starts off nice. I 44 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 2: mean they all leave in one piece though. 45 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's not like they're injured or held against 46 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 1: their will, but the actual governance itself. When somebody who 47 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: knows what's going on challenges the actual governance or the 48 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: actual policies itself, it all falls apart. And so last 49 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: night we were blessed that one of these politicians who 50 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: thinks so highly of himself had so little self control. 51 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: I didn't tag him in anything. I didn't. I mean, 52 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: I named him, but it wasn't like I was adding him. 53 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: That tells you something right there. This person was not 54 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 2: even tagged yet. You know they're following you, well sure, 55 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 2: and they're interested in what you have to say. 56 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: And what he said was completely ridiculous, and I pointed 57 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 1: it out and then it went well, I mean, you 58 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: could say downhill, but it's going to be great for 59 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: our show. It went from there, and so we'll talk 60 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: about that a little bit later on in the program 61 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: because we have a winner. I knew winner of the 62 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: Dumbass of the Day award, but in the meantime. 63 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, And the thing is, you declared 64 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: that last night, and I said, well, wait a minute, 65 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: can you preemptively do that? What if somebody does something 66 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 2: even worse? By nine am well. 67 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: And here's the thing, Like I made my comment. There 68 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: was a video posted the person said something ridiculous. I 69 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,399 Speaker 1: made my comment. I was done with it. There would 70 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: have been nothing else. And then they started responding and 71 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: it was like, okay, craps On, you know, well, it's 72 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: Fred Krueger right, Like you're in my world now. And 73 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: these guys do not know how to deal with being 74 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: a challenge and it really shows you whatever I really 75 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: needs to take away from it, and why I do 76 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: this not for me, It doesn't matter. I mean, what 77 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: these guys haven't figured out too, by the way, is 78 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: they didn't Rush Limbaugh used to say this about Trump 79 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: all the time, and it's true, and so this is 80 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: a much smaller, most more local level. But he said 81 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: the media didn't make Trump. They can't break Trump in 82 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: the case of these politicians they're so used to with broadcasters. 83 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: Oh you need us, you can't exist without us. If 84 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: we don't like you, or if we don't prop you up, 85 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: or we don't support you, or we don't invite you 86 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: to our dinners or suppers or whatever, you don't exist. 87 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: Doesn't work with me. I made something of myself as 88 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: the antithesis to you people. That's how we got here. 89 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: You can't break me because you didn't make me, and 90 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: they can't stand that case. 91 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 2: And you don't want the access to power. 92 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: No, I don't want anything to do with any of 93 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: these people. Now. I would let them come on the 94 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: show in this case. And I told him, I said, well, 95 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: why don't you come tell everybody why I'm wrong? Why 96 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: don't you tell me exactly how it is. Why don't 97 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: you tell me what a great job I think my 98 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: direct quote was what a great job you're doing ruining 99 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: I mean, running the state. And he didn't want any 100 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: part of that now. So we'll talk about him later on. 101 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: And in the meantime, though, big doings related to people's 102 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: utility bills potentially. 103 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 2: Yes, So you had the Indiana Utility Regulatory Commission nominating committee. 104 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: They had forty seven applicants people who wanted to be 105 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 2: part of this process, and they narrowed it down to 106 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 2: twenty two, including one state senator. 107 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk about this for a second. So 108 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: the Indian Capital Chronicle did a big article on this. 109 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: Jim Merrittith, who is on this committee, has talked about this. 110 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: So the IURC has a nominating committee. The Indiandia Utility 111 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: Regulatory Commission has the nominating committee. There's three open spots. 112 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: This committee has to nominate three people to the governor 113 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: and then he will give a thumbs upright thumbs down 114 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: on the nomination. They have gone from forty seven applicants 115 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,119 Speaker 1: down to twenty two applicants and now they will begin 116 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: a public interview process with these named people, so that 117 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: where we're at with this now. The best part about 118 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,799 Speaker 1: this though, and this is what I love. The Capitol 119 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: Chronicle did a big article on these people and who 120 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: some of them are and into blah blah blah. But 121 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: in the article, I'm going to read you just verbatim 122 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: what they wrote because this is the most government thing 123 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: ever and this is why we're all totally getting screwed. 124 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 1: The IURC is charged with ensuring that utilities provide safe, 125 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: reliable service at just and reasonable rates. It is wait 126 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: for it, casey quote an advocate of neither the public 127 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: nor the utilities, according to its website. So we the 128 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: taxpayers pay for this commission this service. We pay for 129 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: them to exist, and the government creates a monopoly which 130 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: the utility is which unless you're going to go without 131 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: heat or gas, you have to pay whatever is being charged. 132 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: And yet the commission that we pay for is not 133 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: an advocate for us against the monopoly the government created. 134 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: Right, it's not an advocate of neither the public nor 135 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 2: the utilities. So they're just advocating for what energy. 136 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: Then, well, I think, as we've seen over the last 137 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: several years, they're an advocate of the utility because the 138 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: utility then sends huge money either to things like the 139 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: Indian Economic Development Foundation or to the politicians themselves. Look, 140 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: it certainly seems like THEIURC has been an advocate of 141 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: the utility over the past several years. Now let's get 142 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: to what you said. Yes, they have narrowed it down, 143 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: so one of these seats has to be a Republican, 144 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: one has to be a Democrat. Jim Merrett told us. 145 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: The third one will be decided later because that's the 146 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: chairman that will be a Republican. 147 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: But one hundred and fifty two thousand dollars a year salary, 148 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: by the way, and on this. 149 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: List of people who made it, and we're not going 150 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: to go into all of them, but one of them 151 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: is indeed Andy z who is a state senator. He 152 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: serves northeastern Indiana. I think he ran for Congress the 153 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: last time in that seat that Stutsman went. I think 154 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: that's right. He's been there since twenty sixteen. So you 155 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: have a hyper connected individual who has been a part 156 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: of this problem as a senator for eight years, and 157 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: he's currently making probably roughly seventy thousand dollars and as 158 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: a part time job as a state senator. And now 159 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: he can potentially leverage that seventy thousand dollars part time 160 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: job as a state senator who has been a part 161 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: of the problem, by the way, to one hundred and 162 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars plus job, which, let's face it, this 163 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: is also basically a part time job. 164 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 2: Double his money. That's pretty good deal. 165 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: Right. Then there's this guy, and by the way, full 166 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: credit to this for our guy, Indie reporter Steven. Everybody 167 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: should follow the Indie reporter account at Indie Underscore reporter underscore. 168 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: What's his name, It's Baggett, right, Christopher Baggett, who the 169 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: Capitol Chronicle lists as a Central Indiana businessman who co 170 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: founded Cluster Truck, an exact target and according to the 171 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: information posted by indie reporter. This guy gave ten thousand 172 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: dollars to Mike Broun, Right, so. 173 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: Now is Mike bron beholden to him and is going 174 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 2: to green light his position. 175 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: That would be a tough guy to beat. 176 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 2: Uh oh. 177 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: But one guy who is on there is our guy, 178 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: Bill Herrick. I know, our oil guy. Yeah, the friend 179 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: of the show boy. He's done right, friend of the 180 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: show Bill Herrick. When they find that out, he's toast 181 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: thumbs down. We need to have him on. I'm going 182 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: to reach out to him and see if he'll come 183 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: on this week and tell us like what this process 184 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: is going to be like. That would be fun. 185 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 2: Also, Indianapolis City County council member Josh Bain, he was 186 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: just on with this yesterday. 187 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: Bain is there. 188 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 2: It's going to be an interesting conversation tomorrow with you, Merrick. 189 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: It's going to be tough, though, to beat the guy 190 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: who gave ten grand to Braun unless somebody gave more 191 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: than ten grand, right, I mean, that's a tough starting point, 192 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: right to. 193 00:09:55,679 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: So they the meeting executive sessions like that aren't podcast. 194 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: They had part of it on YouTube. It was like 195 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: a two two and a half hour meeting where they 196 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: went through all the different applicants they discussed it. You 197 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 2: couldn't see that, but at the very end you could 198 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 2: see about two minutes of their conversation and didn't seem 199 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: like it got off to the best start. 200 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 3: We just finished our first meeting, and our meeting today 201 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 3: was to review all the forty seven applicants for the 202 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 3: three seats on the Utility Regulatory Commission. Point of order, 203 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 3: I need to make the set the record straight. I 204 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 3: misspoke this morning when I opened up the meeting and 205 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 3: I mentioned that we would be choosing the recommendations today 206 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 3: for the governor, and that is not correct. What we 207 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 3: did today was we evaluated for the first time as 208 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 3: a committee all of the forty seven applicants. Today we 209 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 3: chose the applicants who will come back next week and 210 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 3: have in person interview with this committee. 211 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: Okay, now that was Susie Javarowski, right. She's the same 212 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: Oh they tell me to be nicer these days. She's 213 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: the same MENSA member who said it a lunch that 214 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: these energy companies should sue local governments if they basically 215 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: don't get on bend and knee and give them what 216 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: they want with these energy projects in their community. So 217 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: whose side do you think she's going to be on? 218 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: Case you think she's standing up for? And what also 219 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: might say, was that a Freudian slip? Does that mean 220 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: you guys already know where you're going? Yeah? Interesting, Look, 221 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: here's the deal, right, Well, let's take a break because 222 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: this is actually super important. Let's talk about what the 223 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: deal probably is. When we come back. 224 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 2: You're listening to Kendel and Casey. It is ninety three WIBC. 225 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: Okay, so we had to get to a break last secondent. 226 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: But this is really important because people need to know. 227 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: How many times do we do this, Casey, where we 228 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: tell you exactly what's going to happen. 229 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: And then it happens exactly right. Well, that seems pretty regular. 230 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, and I was just thinking about this. I 231 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: might drive in because we're going to just crap all 232 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: over somebody here pretty soon who totally deserves it in 233 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: the Indiana General Assembly. But you know, I was thinking 234 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: about this that I know this stuff because I experienced 235 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: it firsthand. I worked around these people and the stuff 236 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: that I saw, like the Rob Kendall origin story, so 237 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: much of it starts in these two years that I 238 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: spent in state government because I watched with just like 239 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: I was in shock at how inept and corrupt and 240 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: just blatantly lazy our government is. Now, I'm not talking 241 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: about the rank and file like workers. There's a lot 242 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: of really good workers. I'm talking about the structure itself. 243 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: And I've always used this example that it is like 244 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: a hamster on a wheel. You know, if you have 245 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 1: the little gerbils or hamsters or whatever they got, the 246 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: little wheel, they have to stay on the wheel. The 247 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: hamster has to stay in the world to keep the 248 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: wheel moving. And if the hamster gets off the wheel, 249 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: then the wheel stops moving. In the ride stops. The 250 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: government exists to exist. And if you actually reform and 251 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: fix things in the government the wheel stops, then the 252 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: power of the government goes away. And they're not going 253 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: to let that happen. So when I tell you these things, 254 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: I get it right so often because I saw it, 255 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: and I sat there and watched it, and I soaked 256 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: it all up. And it has been such a gift 257 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: all of these years for this radio program. And so 258 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: let me tell you what's gonna happen with this IURC 259 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: Nominating Committee, right because they've got this down to these 260 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: eleven people. First of all, they're not going Suzi Jabaroski 261 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: being a part of this means nobody is going to 262 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: get through that they cannot control. There is no you 263 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: can get rid of this independent stuff. This person is 264 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: going to be totally beholden to the power structure itself. 265 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: They even say in their guidelines that they're not on 266 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 1: your side, and Braun can say, and Jim Marret, and 267 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: I'll get into his marro I'm sure we're gonna have 268 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: a fun little back and forth on this, because I 269 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: love Jim, but there I don't think he's gonna have 270 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: a good answer for this. Braun, just like Jim Merritt, 271 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: is totally on board with this SMR stuff, the nuclear stuff, 272 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: which is totally unproven technology, which is why they pass 273 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: the bill that said that the utilities get all this 274 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: R and D back from the rate payers whether the 275 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: thing works or not. You cannot have a world in 276 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: which the government is refusing to cut back on these 277 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: power suckers, data centers, etc. These megacorps, which they're not 278 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: slowing down on whatsoever. You cannot have a world in 279 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: which that exists, and you need all this power, there's 280 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: not enough power without having to try to get out 281 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: go wholly in on some basically moonshot of an idea, 282 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: which means the moonshot of an idea that Braun and 283 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: these other people are on board with is the nuclear stuff, 284 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: which are the SMRs. And you cannot have the SMR 285 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: stuff go forward without rate increases. So the idea that 286 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: anybody thinks, it's just like the IDC. He got rid 287 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: of all the people, put a new board in. What 288 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: did he do? What's the first thing he did? 289 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: He passed the bill? 290 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: Right, he passed the bill. He gave all this free 291 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:31,359 Speaker 1: range to these utilities on this SMR stuff. You cannot 292 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: go down that road without rate increases. And then with 293 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: the IDC board, what did he do? They approved all 294 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: these data centers. They're not stopping on the they're not 295 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: stopping on the data centers. So people are living in dreamland. 296 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: If you think that this commission is going to nominate 297 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: any person who is not one hundred percent on board 298 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: with the nuclear and the research and the development, which 299 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: means your rates are going to have to go up 300 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: if you continue to go down that road. 301 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 2: So does this seem like he's talking out of both 302 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 2: sides of his mouth because govern He said the iu 303 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: r C has leaned too far in favor of utilities. 304 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: He said rate payers have taken the brunt of it. 305 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 2: He wants the new commissioners to prioritize affordability, rate payers 306 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: and energy supplies. 307 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: He's a liar. 308 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:20,119 Speaker 2: Instead, affordability issues are similar to the property tax uproar. 309 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: He's a liar about that? 310 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 2: Why right? So you can't talk about affordability and prioritizing 311 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 2: the rate payers on one hand and then the other 312 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: signed the bill for the SMRs. Yeah, I mean, like again, 313 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 2: look at this list of people. Is there any person 314 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 2: on this list? And look, I like Josh Bain and 315 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 2: maybe if they had control of something, he would be 316 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: very prone to cut taxes whatever. But there's no person 317 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: you can look at on this list who you say 318 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 2: that person has a strong track record. I mean, some 319 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 2: of them, like Bill you know, might do a fine job, 320 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 2: and you know, I'm sure he'll come on and tell 321 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 2: us what his philosophy is. But there's no person on 322 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 2: here with a track record of standing up for the people. 323 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: Now, Andy Swinger has been in the Utility consumer counselor office. 324 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: But I'm talking in terms of actual policy makers. There's 325 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 1: no person there that you would look at and go BINGO, 326 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: take it to the bank. That when the pressure heats 327 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: up from the donors and the lobbyists and the politicians, 328 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: because we've already seen with guys like Ed Soliday, who's 329 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: the head of utilities in the House, he's team Utility. 330 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: What they want you do, and if you raise the rate, 331 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: so be it. He don't care. I don't see anybody 332 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: on that list with an actual track record of sitting 333 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: on boards, commissions, elected office, of taking the heat and 334 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: standing up and fighting back for the taxpayer. 335 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 2: I would say fifty percent of these people are already 336 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 2: involved in government on some level. Now I do see 337 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 2: a name somebody that I know who applied did not 338 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 2: make the final cut, it would be interesting. Well we're 339 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,719 Speaker 2: going to have to ask Jim tomorrow. What were they 340 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 2: looking for? Why did some people make the list and 341 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: not others? 342 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, So just everybody get it out of your head 343 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: that you think like this new it's gonna be just 344 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: like the new ied C board. What did they do 345 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 1: the same thing the last board did. Braun is a liar. 346 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: Braun is a fraud. Braun says things all the time 347 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: and then does the exact opposite see Fight Fight Fight 348 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: at the property tax rally. So nobody should give any 349 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: credence to any words that come out of his mouth 350 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: because his actions don't match his words. It's gonna be 351 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: business as usual. Utilities are gonna get what they want 352 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: and we're gonna pay for it. 353 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 2: Are we gonna talk about your new BFF? 354 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: Do we want to wait till ten? 355 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 2: Okay, we can do that. 356 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: We'll wait till ten because I know he's gonna know 357 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:40,959 Speaker 1: about it, and I just want him to sit there 358 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: and stew because he knows what's coming and it's gonna 359 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: be great. Radio. 360 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 2: Let's wait till ten. You're listening to Kennel and Casey. 361 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 2: It is ninety three WIBC. 362 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: I see that scumbag liar Craig Haggard's on the TV 363 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: trying to explain why he lied to our audience. 364 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 2: He said, it's not about poul It's about race. 365 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: Okay, so this is about redistricting. By the way, it's 366 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: Kenlly Casey Show. I'm Rob Casey's here. You know, some 367 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: person's discovering us for the first time. Is like, what 368 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: did I just walk into Welcome to our show. This 369 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: is not an out of bounds segment for us. This 370 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: is pretty much standard operating procedure. So, Craig Haggard is 371 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: this no name, low level state Rep. From Moresville who 372 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: desperately wants to be a career politician, and even though 373 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,719 Speaker 1: he's been in the state House for three seconds, is 374 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: now running for Congress. 375 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 2: Now. 376 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: The only problem is the guy he's running against. This 377 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: is the most this is the most government thing ever. 378 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: As bad as Haggard is, the guy he's running against 379 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: probably worse Jim Baird, who was a do nothing, horrible 380 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: state Rep. Before he became a congressman. Do you know 381 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 1: so history just repeats itself, Casey, It's just the same. 382 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 2: People, the old boss. 383 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: So Craig Haggard came on our show several months ago 384 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: and was emphatic that. 385 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: He said the maps were good the way they were. 386 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: Right, that everything was fine, and uh, you know, everything 387 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: was great, and that we you know, we had one 388 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: of the few people hadn't been sued and the maps 389 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: were wonderful and you need to keep messages. Hey, great, 390 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: that's your opinion. We agree with you. If we don't 391 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: agree with you. We get people the right to say 392 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: their opinion. Blah blah blah. You know we don't care. 393 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: We disagree with people all the time. Well, we don't 394 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,239 Speaker 1: tolerate our liars. Well, we don't tolerate our people who 395 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: are so pathetically weak that threatening getting threatened or attempted 396 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: to be bullied by some person who doesn't live in 397 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: our state. And look, Charlie Kirk was horribly murdered. I 398 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: hope the guy gets the death penalty that did it 399 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: to him. But we can't remove history. And the fact 400 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: was Charlie Kirk was threatening lawmakers in Indiana who aren't 401 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: going to go along with the redistricting. And Craig Haggard, 402 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: who supposed some big, tough military guy, after coming on 403 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: our show and emphatically telling our audience how he felt 404 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 1: about something, got under his desk, started crying, built a 405 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: ford out of his bed sheets and said, I'm sorry, 406 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 1: I've changed my mind, mister Kirk. I'm sorry, I don't 407 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: want to offend you. I'm now for redistricting. Well, I mean, 408 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: if there's another logical explanation how you could emphatically make 409 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: a statement on a statewide radio program program that's turned 410 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: all over the state. And then what within a week 411 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: change your mind If someone has a better explanation, let 412 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: me know. Now he's admitting because he can't stop flapping 413 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: his gums. Yeah, this is totally about the party. It's 414 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: not about you, it's not about the people. It's about 415 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: the party. It's about helping the Republican Party. And why 416 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: people need to care about this, and we are so blessed, 417 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: Casey that these people cannot keep their mouths shut is 418 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 1: they're admitting to you that this is not about anything 419 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: about good government. It's not about you. It's about them. 420 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: And you may be for this issue, but if they're 421 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: doing it here, they're doing it everywhere else. If they're 422 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: willing to do it publicly and say it publicly, and 423 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: they're so arrogant that they'll say it publicly, think about 424 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: where else they're screwing you because it's about quote unquote 425 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: the party. 426 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 2: The party at least Andrew Ireland, when he came on 427 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 2: the show, was honest about that and said, yeah, it 428 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 2: is about the party. 429 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 1: It's politics, these guys are. And this is why I 430 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: always tell people this because so many people get mad 431 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: about We saw this with that poll with the trust 432 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: in government? Right, how the Democrats suddenly lack of trust 433 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: or too much power in government? I'm sorry, they asked 434 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: both people on both sides, how do you view the 435 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: power of government? And it's shot up this year for Democrats, 436 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: it's pulled way down for Republicans. And what you realize 437 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: is people just want to bitch when their party isn't 438 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 1: in power. They're fine with the government being out of 439 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: control as long as it's their people making the rules. 440 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: And this is why you get all this horrible policy 441 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: because these guys vote on party all the time. They 442 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: don't vote on you, They don't vote on benefiting your life, 443 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: they don't vote on doing what's right. People like Craig 444 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,479 Speaker 1: Haggard admit they're voting about the party. 445 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 2: Now there's a bunch of rumblings that Scott Pressler is 446 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 2: going to be coming to Indiana. And this is a 447 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 2: guy who has made a name for himself by getting 448 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 2: people registered to vote, and now I keep hearing his 449 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 2: name popping up that he's going to come to Indiana 450 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 2: to help with the redistricting push and do what That's 451 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 2: not what he does. He knocks on doors and gets 452 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 2: people registered to vote well. 453 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: And this is what's always laughable to me about the 454 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: threats from like Trump or Charlie Kirk when he was 455 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: with US, or or Presler, any of these people, right, you, 456 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: guy like Presler could help Trump win a presidential election 457 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: or a statewide Senate race. Absolutely, because everybody's voting on 458 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: the same thing, the messaging is the same across the state. 459 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: You can certainly have a profound impact doing that. But 460 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: what's he gonna do or what's Trump gonna do? Are 461 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: they gonna go target every district in the state, all 462 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: hundred House seats, all fifty Senate seats. Are they going 463 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: to spend one hundred million dollars? I think through These 464 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: guys don't think through this logically. How would they even 465 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: do that? You can't away. 466 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: I've been talking about Scott Presler long before many people 467 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 2: in the state even knew who he was. Just gonna 468 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 2: say that. 469 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: And he did a lot of great we did work 470 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. Getting Trump still is actually yeah, And that's 471 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: and I think he's doing stuff in New Jersey now, 472 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: and good on him, But he knows nothing about the 473 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 1: state of Indiana. He's not going to knock on doors 474 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: all across the state. He's not going to influence people 475 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: who have already. The problem he would have is people 476 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: are not undecided on this. They're against it. The public 477 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: is against this. Poll after poll after poll done by 478 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: Republican based pollsters. By the way, the last two that 479 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: have come out have been Republican affiliated pollsters, have shown 480 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: people are overwhelmingly against it. You're not going to motivate 481 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: people to change their mind. You can get people to 482 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: vote that are undecided, but you're not going to go 483 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: knock on doors and go, hey, you better call your rep. 484 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: And tell him something you don't believe. That's not going 485 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: to work. 486 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 2: I've seen that conservative influencers are saying, oh, Indiana is 487 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 2: about to call a special session any day now to 488 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: do this redistricting any day now. 489 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: Well, look, I think we both know they're going to 490 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: eventually do this. I mean they're eventually going to they're 491 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: too far down the rabbit hole, and they'll get the 492 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: twenty five and Micah will cast the tie breaking vote 493 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: and they'll they'll get this done. I mean, they're not 494 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: going to allow it to fail if they have to 495 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: put it up on the floor, even without the numbers, 496 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: and they're going to. 497 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 2: Be eight one or nine? 498 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: Oh, well, I don't know. Now, we'll see. I will see, 499 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: because Andrew Ireland sat here and said, correct when I'm wrong. 500 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: He said, if it's not nine to oh, he won't 501 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 1: necessarily vote for the map, right, So, I mean that's 502 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: why how rediculous is these guys want this thing and 503 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 1: they don't even know what it is. That's how ridiculous 504 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: this all is. They don't even know what it is. 505 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: That's where we're at in this country now. And by 506 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: the way, notice Braun or Micah or no member of 507 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: the General Assembly took us up on our offer. Show 508 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: us what the fair Massachusetts map looks like. That has 509 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: all these Republicans going to Congress because they can't do it. 510 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: All Right, we're supposed to get this up with Bernie Sanders. Right, 511 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I just saw Craig Haggard on TV and 512 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: I just had to point out set you. 513 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 2: Off, didn't it. Maybe we should turn the channel and. 514 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: Some people that are watching. What a liar that guy? 515 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 2: Get it? What Bernie Sanders said? Coming up next on 516 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 2: ninety three WIBC. 517 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: Day, What is it? 518 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 2: Day? Day twenty one, they Senate failed for the eleventh 519 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 2: time to pass a bill to fund the government. 520 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,959 Speaker 1: Okay, so Bernie Sander, it's kind of on CAZy Somrod, 521 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: that's CAZy. Bernie Sanders was at the view. I mean, 522 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: he is so ridiculous and it is it's like, it's insightful, 523 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: but it's also very depressing because this happens on both parties. 524 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: And we're going to spend the top of next hour 525 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: kind of talking about this on the other side of 526 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: people who just blab ridiculous things and and they just 527 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: get away with it, and our politicians on both sides 528 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: do this all the time, where Bernie Sanders is like 529 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: rock star to people, and he has gotten caught so 530 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: many times in the complete and utter hypocrisy of everything 531 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 1: that is him. Do you remember this would have been 532 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: this was twenty twenty, right, that's when he ran for 533 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: president the last time, so you weren't here yet. But 534 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: as an avid viewer of the news, he did a 535 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: town hall on maybe it was Fox I think it 536 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: was Fox News. Yeah, it was Fox News. He did 537 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:24,719 Speaker 1: a town because that was a big deal. 538 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 4: Right. 539 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: I can't believe Bernie Sanders is going on Fox News 540 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: and they asked him about because he's always the rich guys, 541 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: the rich this. The rich said they don't pay their 542 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: first share to blah blah blah. And they said, well, you're rich, 543 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: why don't you just pay more in taxes? And he 544 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 1: scoffed at them, ye, like it was a scoff on 545 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: the on the television. They said, well, nothing's stopping you 546 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: from paying more in taxes. If you don't think the 547 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: rich pay enough in taxes, and you're rich, why don't 548 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: you pay more in taxesth welcome to do that. And 549 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 1: everybody and their brothers saw this, and yet no no 550 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: pushback from the left. Nobody goes, hey, yeah, maybe this 551 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: guy is just full of crap. No, they just keep 552 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: greeting him like he's some sort of you know, hero 553 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: rock star. And the right has their version of it too, 554 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: And this is why our country is in the shape. 555 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 2: It is in. 556 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: And he did this yesterday in the View. 557 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 2: He's very much ado as I say, not as I do. 558 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: Guy. Oh totally. So he was on the View and 559 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: they were asking him about the shutdown. It was about 560 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 1: paying people in the shutdown. Right, listen to this exchange. 561 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 4: It's easier for the politicians in DC to go away 562 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 4: from each other and say we will win this way 563 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 4: while people are losing their paychecks. If Congress just said 564 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 4: we're not going to take our paychecks, do we figure 565 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 4: this out, that would be a noble step in the 566 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 4: right direction. 567 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: Not everybody kind of forought through. You got some young 568 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: people there with kids there, the. 569 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 2: People that aren't getting paid. Though I figure fulled out. 570 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: You called me on it. Yeah, that's a fair point, 571 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 2: no kidding. 572 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: So so this guy. So they always act like they're 573 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: immune to everything that's going on around them, as though 574 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: they did create the system. So Congress specifically created the system. 575 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: They could have written the law to say, if there's 576 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: a shutdown, we don't get paid, but this specifically said 577 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: if there's a shutdown, we keep getting paid. And because 578 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: he has no answer for this, his response is, well, 579 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: there's some people with young kids. Well, yeah, there's a 580 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: lot of people who work for the government who aren't 581 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: at work right now, who have young kids. On Einstein right. 582 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 2: Now, send a majority of Leader John Thune. He's expected 583 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 2: to propose a bill this week to get federal employees 584 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 2: paid and military members who are working without pay as well. 585 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 2: Democrats have blocked a long term spending bill. 586 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like, the intrigue now is who's going 587 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: to take the exit ramp first. There's not an intrigue 588 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: on whether we're going to get screwed or not we are. 589 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,479 Speaker 1: There's not an intrigue on whether they're going to continue 590 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: Obamacare or not they are. It's just going to be 591 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: fascinating to see who hits the exit ramp first and 592 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: how they do it, and then how they spend it. 593 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: Because you've got the Democrats now that are voting against 594 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: the military funding bill, which many of them had already 595 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: previously voted for. So I don't know, I mean, I 596 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: just don't I don't think. I don't think. I know. 597 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:10,239 Speaker 1: The public doesn't pay attention to much of anything, and 598 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: they get their information from whatever their desired news source is, 599 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: and so a lot of it ends up being on 600 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: how the media spends it. But how could a rational 601 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: person go, hey, the well, I mean, I'm obviously against 602 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: the spending that the Republicans are doing, but go hey, 603 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: the Republicans kind of just agreed to keep Biden's spending going, 604 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: but that wasn't good enough, right, And we all know 605 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: they're going to cave eventually, and they're not going to 606 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: cancel Obamacare because they're liars and they don't ever follow 607 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: through on anything. So how could you look at this 608 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: and say the Democrats aren't to blame for the shutdou. 609 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 2: Well, And if you kept doing a job, actually, if 610 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 2: you kept not doing a job, would you still expect 611 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 2: to get paid for I mean, that's what these Democrats senators. 612 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 2: They're not doing their job, yet they're still getting paid. 613 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: No, you're you're absolutely right. But they write the rules. 614 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: It's the same way as they can do insider trading, 615 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: something that you or I if we did it would go 616 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: directly to federal prison. And they do it. And it's 617 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: totally fine because they write the rules. But yet for 618 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: some reason, and this is the bigger question, is why 619 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: in this country there is not more hate for these politicians, 620 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: that there is not more anger at these politicians on 621 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: both sides at all levels. Is think about this in 622 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: your in your life. If you're driving down the road 623 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: right now, is there any government that you look at 624 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: I'm talking local, I'm talking state, I'm talking federal. Is 625 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: there any government that you can think of off the 626 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,959 Speaker 1: top of your head and go that's really efficient and 627 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: well run? No? 628 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,239 Speaker 2: I mean when I there is one section that I 629 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 2: think and I go, thank god they're there, and that's 630 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 2: the military. 631 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: But are they national security? 632 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 2: Are They're not efficient? 633 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: That's my point. 634 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 2: They are not efficient, But I'm glad. 635 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: They're there, Like I am fascinated by this like that. 636 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: So there's this this school referendum that's going on in Avon, 637 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: and look, there's a lot of people. I give the 638 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: note if you are thinking of a vote no against 639 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: all school referendums. These public education people are the biggest 640 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: abusers of public money and they get away with it 641 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: because they use kids as human shields. If you make 642 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: them be more accountable, they will they do this because 643 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: they don't want to do it. So if you live 644 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: in Avon, you vote no on the school referendum and 645 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: you don't think twice about it. And I'm very impressed 646 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: at the amount of people I see on the like 647 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: the tawny chatterboards who are speaking out publicly. And one 648 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: of the things that nobody has an answer for. And 649 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: this is the best comeback I've seen, because it's always 650 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: like this is for the teachers. It's to help the teachers. 651 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: When you post what those administrators are making in the 652 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: avon school system across the board. There's no answer to it. 653 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: What if they gave up a few bucks? What if 654 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: them and their salaries and their benefits and all the 655 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: other stuff to come with these being these administrators, what 656 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: if they just gave up a fraction of their pay 657 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: and gave it to the teachers, Well then we wouldn't 658 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: need the referendum. Crickets, right, But yet there's people who 659 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: see this, There's people who see the information right in 660 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: front of them of how much these tippy top people 661 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: are making, which isn't benefiting one kid in the classroom whatsoever. 662 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: And if you just fixed that, you would be able 663 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: to pay the teachers a lot more. But they'll still go. 664 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: But it's for the children. We must support the kids. 665 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 2: When you bring this up, I always have to ask, 666 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 2: has Governor Mike Broun gone and knocked on any door? 667 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: No? No, that because you know what, because he's a liar. 668 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: He's a liar. 669 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 2: Didn't he tell you it was going to be He's 670 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 2: going to help you go beat referendums. He was going 671 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 2: to knock on doors if needed. 672 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,959 Speaker 1: We were sitting as even closer than you and I 673 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: are right now. You were that close to Oh the. 674 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 2: Good old day. 675 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: That was the last time we were going to be 676 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: Like I knew when I walked in there and it 677 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: was like something out of good Fellas that it was 678 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: going to be the last time we were gonna be together. 679 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: And he told me, oh, yeah, I'll go knock it now. 680 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: Supposedly Micah is going to go knock on the doors 681 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: this weekend. 682 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 2: That's what I was talking Lieutenant governor. 683 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: If he doesn't. Now, I had said if Braun and 684 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: Micah do the doors together, which they both promised to 685 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: that I would go do them with them. But apparently 686 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: Braun is you know what, he's a liar, okay. So 687 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: apparently Braun is not going to follow through and help 688 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: those poor people in Amon, even though he told me 689 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: and there were numerous other people in the room that 690 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: he would absolutely knock on doors to defeat school referendums 691 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,919 Speaker 1: because of his crappy ass property tax bill that he signed. 692 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: You know why he signed it, because he's a liar, okay. 693 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 2: You know what. We were also told that in Karmel 694 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 2: that they were going to have to lose teachers and stuff, 695 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 2: but they built a fifty five million dollar pool. 696 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: There is a large pool in Carmel. And now we 697 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,720 Speaker 1: were told that they were going to fire the potentially 698 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: the firefighters at the property built. 699 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 2: That's that's what it was. 700 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: Then they just signed out. What didn't they sign with 701 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: the police. They were also in jeopardy potentially too, and 702 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: then they signed agreements with the police. And the look, 703 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: there's there's too much money. This is the problem with government. 704 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: They have too much money. The only way to make 705 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: government efficient, to make government accountable, to make them responsive 706 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: to you. Treat government like treat a business. If they 707 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: don't perform, don't give them your business. And the way 708 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: to not give them your business because you have to 709 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: pay taxes is don't pay more taxes than you absolutely 710 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 1: have to. All Right, we're taking a break. When we 711 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 1: come back. A lawmaker wanted to get lippy last night. 712 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: He wanted to be a big internet tough guy. Let's 713 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: make him famous when we come back. 714 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 2: You're listening to kendaln Casey on ninety three WIBC