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Speaker 3: by the way, Philip Rivers is still your guy?

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Speaker 3: A pretty nice pass to Michael Pittman Junior for a

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Speaker 3: ask you this question. Okay, you are the pride of

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Speaker 3: wrong here, Nathaniel, don't call me Atticus, but if I'm

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Speaker 3: And I do one hundred percent understand and respect that

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Speaker 1: I got a gully in the other.

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Speaker 3: Line about some white walls and philip rivers this year. Now,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's cleared from the eye standpoint, but we're just

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Speaker 1: A practice windows stuff like that. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's eighteen minutes after twelve on this the what sixteenth

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Speaker 3: But you trust the physical activity of a forty four

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Speaker 3: That actually sounds to me like we should run this

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Speaker 3: Do you know, Nathaniel, we should run this through the

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Speaker 3: Because I think what that truly means is this, What

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Speaker 3: That sounds to me like a coach that is saying, look,

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Speaker 3: In September, the weather's beautiful and it feels great outside

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Speaker 3: That sounds to me like a coach that is totally out,

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Speaker 3: That is totally out. And if Anthony Richardson was ever

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Speaker 4: You know what it feels like.

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Speaker 5: How many weeks in a row did Stiken get up

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Speaker 3: close to seeing it, and why they may know that

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Speaker 3: they are actually sitting there walking a tightrope making sure

436
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Speaker 3: they don't fall off of that into that area of

437
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 3: this huge dilemma. I will tell you exactly that the

438
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Speaker 3: big question and what the answers are starting to point towards.

439
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you exactly what that is. On the other side.

440
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Speaker 3: Stephanie White gonna join us coming up one o'clock today,

441
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Speaker 3: catch up on some things that she said about Asia

442
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 3: Wilson that were of interest. Obviously, Caitlin Clark is practicing

443
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 3: with Team USA for the FOBA Basketball Championships. We're going

444
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Speaker 3: to catch up with Stephanie just kind of get an

445
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Speaker 3: overview on where all of that is. Ralph Frief going

446
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 3: to join us one thirty. We'll get up to speed

447
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Speaker 3: on a couple of these injuries for the Colts, notably

448
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 3: Bernard Ryman, find out the timeline for at Patrick Mahomes.

449
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 3: There's a lot of discussion about that Joel Erickson two

450
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Speaker 3: o'clock today. But the big question that the colts need

451
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Speaker 3: to now walk very very closely.

452
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Speaker 2: I'll let you know next query in company on ninety

453
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Speaker 2: three five and one oh seven five the fan.

454
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Speaker 3: Okay, so now, Nathaniel, again, I've mentioned that we've moved

455
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Speaker 3: from one building to the next.

456
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Speaker 1: I think most people know that by now.

457
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Speaker 3: So we have some things in the boxes, and we

458
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Speaker 3: each had to put our possessions in a box, and

459
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 3: then they got a moving company that moved this stuff over,

460
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Speaker 3: which was tremendously helpful and we appreciate that. And the

461
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 3: engineers have been doing an unbelievable job of It's not

462
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 3: an easy situation. I mean to move several radio stations

463
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Speaker 3: from one location to the next.

464
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Speaker 1: That did a great job with it.

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Speaker 3: But one of the things that we weren't sure whether

466
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Speaker 3: or not we brought over was the elixir. And you

467
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 3: said that you found it right, you heard it beeping

468
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 3: over there to it looks like Simon their lights going

469
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 3: off and all kinds of stuff.

470
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Speaker 4: Right, Oh, yeah, we found it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So here's how the elixir works.

472
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Speaker 3: Okay, we play a sound clip from a coach or

473
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Speaker 3: an athlete, we run it through the Elixir. Now, I

474
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Speaker 3: bought the There are several packages that you can buy

475
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Speaker 3: with this, but I bought kind of the inexpensive one,

476
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Speaker 3: and I had initially I had the ninety day free trial,

477
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 3: and then that all of a sudden, I got a

478
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Speaker 3: statement that said, you know, you've been charged nine ninety

479
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Speaker 3: nine per month, and I thought, what in the world

480
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Speaker 3: is that for. I know, I've got all the apps

481
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 3: and I can watch all the different shows and whatever else.

482
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 3: I'm actually right currently, I'm engrossed in a soap opera

483
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 3: from Bangladesh, which I didn't think I would like, but

484
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 3: I've it's on one of the apps, and I think

485
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 3: I paid for it, so I'm watching it. So the Elixir.

486
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 3: I went ahead and paid for the year for the Elixir.

487
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 3: And what we do is we run a sound clip

488
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Speaker 3: from a coach or an athlete through the Elixir. It

489
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Speaker 3: then translates it and spits out what the app athleet

490
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Speaker 3: really wants to say, which is a fascinating thing. Now,

491
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 3: when it comes to Anthony Richardson, I know that he

492
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 3: was coming off of and I'm not making light of it.

493
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Speaker 1: I'm not.

494
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's a terrible freak accident that happened to

495
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Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson, Anthony Richardson Senior as he's known now, and

496
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 3: the device where he was using a rubber band to

497
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 3: stretch his legs snapped, he got hit and the orbital bone,

498
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 3: that is basically the bone around your eye socket or

499
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Speaker 3: your eye socket bone, fractured it. And my understanding is,

500
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Speaker 3: I mean, that is a horrific thing. That is terrible,

501
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 3: and I am grateful, as I think anybody is, as

502
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Speaker 3: a person beyond just the athlete, that he is healthy

503
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 3: from that and has healed. But once he was cleared

504
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Speaker 3: to return to practice, and I know that he was

505
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Speaker 3: on IR, he missed four games or five games or

506
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 3: whatever it was, and he's now been cleared to return

507
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 3: to practice, and it's not like he's returning and Daniel

508
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 3: Jones is still at the Helm and the Colts are

509
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 3: ten and three. He's returning where you are teetering on

510
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 3: the year getting away from you, and Daniel Jones is

511
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 3: not there. And so they signed Philip Rivers, who comes

512
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 3: in And the question then became if Philip Rivers is

513
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Speaker 3: able to come up off of a high school football

514
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Speaker 3: coaching tenureship at the age of forty four and physically

515
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 3: is able to play. Then what is it that is

516
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Speaker 3: holding back Anthony Richardson from getting the reps for you,

517
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Speaker 3: especially when theoretically and seemingly he is your second best

518
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Speaker 3: quarterback or should be your second best quarterback. Now, here's

519
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Speaker 3: how we do this, Nathaniel. We're going to play the

520
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Speaker 3: clip from Shane Stike and answering that exact question, and

521
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Speaker 3: then once we play it, you will run it through

522
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Speaker 3: the elixir and will get the reality of what he

523
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Speaker 3: is really saying.

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Speaker 1: Okay, here we go. This is the clip from Shane Steichen.

525
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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's cleared from the eye standpoint, but we're just

526
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Speaker 6: starting to work him back in the physical activity of everything.

527
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Speaker 6: So you know, the determination for him to return will

528
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Speaker 6: be working through that.

529
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Speaker 1: Okay, and then what.

530
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Speaker 7: Am I supposed to say? I'm pretty sure he can see.

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Speaker 7: I've seen what I need to see. I don't think

532
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Speaker 7: I need to see anymore. He can't play. I'll take

533
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Speaker 7: the senior citizen over senior.

534
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Speaker 3: Oh wow, the elis are getting a little salty, right,

535
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Speaker 3: little salty. Here's the question that comes into play with

536
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 3: all of it. And I may well be wrong. Anthony

537
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Speaker 3: Richardson might be the quarterback of the future of the

538
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Speaker 3: Indianapolis Colts, But does anybody really truly, deep down believe that,

539
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Speaker 3: Does anybody really truly deep down believe that Anthony rich

540
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Speaker 3: is the guy that they're gonna go back? And he

541
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Speaker 3: may be, And I hope, you know what, I hope

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Speaker 3: it's the case.

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 3: I think it'd be an unbelievably great story. And we

545
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 3: love great stories. We love comeback stories, we love redemption stories.

546
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Speaker 3: We love getting up off the mat and coming back

547
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Speaker 3: and shocking the world.

548
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Speaker 1: That's what sports is all about. And I hope it happens.

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Speaker 3: I do, and it may, but it doesn't sound like

550
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Speaker 3: it because if this guy, you've got to wait for

551
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Speaker 3: him to get back, for his physical to ramp up

552
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 3: physical activity, just tell me that you don't want him playing.

553
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Speaker 3: The problem is, Shane steik In can't come out and

554
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Speaker 3: say that he doesn't want Anthony Richardson on the field,

555
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Speaker 3: And Shane Steikeen can't come out and say that he

556
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Speaker 3: doesn't trust Anthony Richardson on the field, because that is

557
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Speaker 3: an indictment on the exact thing that this franchise sold

558
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Speaker 3: everyone on when he was drafted. When he was drafted,

559
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 3: it was the Colts, not me, not JMV. Not Kevin Bowen,

560
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 3: not James Boyd, not Jeff Rickard, not Mike Chapel, not

561
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Speaker 3: Joel Erickson, not Eddie Garrison. It was the Colts that said,

562
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Speaker 3: if we had the number one pick, it is still

563
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Speaker 3: the guy we would have selected. The Colts said that,

564
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Speaker 3: And when he was throwing a sixty five yard dime

565
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Speaker 3: to Alec Pierce, you saw, why, holy cow, look at

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Speaker 3: this guy.

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable. That's that right there.

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Speaker 3: And I sat up there in Lucas Oil Stadium when

569
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Speaker 3: he completed that pass, and I said, well, that's why

570
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 3: they got him right there. Unbelievable, amazing talent and his

571
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 3: ability to scramble and everything else. But what was the

572
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 3: narrative about him at Florida? Couldn't stay healthy, couldn't stay healthy.

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Speaker 3: And so the Colts told us at the time that

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Speaker 3: the fact that he couldn't stay healthy was overshadowed by

575
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Speaker 3: his athleticism and his unique traits as a quarterback, and

576
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,719
Speaker 3: just wait until you see it. And now what are

577
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 3: we finding out? We can't get to see all of

578
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 3: those things on display because of the fact that physically speaking,

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Speaker 3: he is not at the point where the activity is

580
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 3: his body is ready for it, the physical activity, his

581
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Speaker 3: body's not ready.

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Speaker 1: It's unfortunate. I hope I'm wrong.

583
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Speaker 3: I may well be wrong, but it absolutely feels like

584
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Speaker 3: this is the Colts telling us that we're not going

585
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Speaker 3: to see Anthony Richardson take another snap with the horseshoe.

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Speaker 1: I may well be wrong.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he plays in the second half against San Francisco,

588
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 3: maybe he plays against Jacksonville or Hugheston. Then if Philip

589
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 3: Rivers pulls a Hammy and Riley Leonard they decide that

590
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Speaker 3: they don't want to go with that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 3: You know, that's possible. It's possible. I mean, Kevin Garnett

593
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 3: said it. Anything's possible, and in sports, anything is. But

594
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Speaker 3: it certainly feels like the table is being set. Not

595
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Speaker 3: by me, not by Eddie, not by Nathaniel, not by

596
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 3: James Jeff John, but the Colts are setting the table

597
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 3: to let us all know that in fact, if he

598
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Speaker 3: ain't gonna play this year, then when are you gonna

599
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Speaker 3: do it? Because I think that the thought is now,

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Speaker 3: Daniel Jones, you try to get him back.

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Speaker 1: You try to get him healthy. And even if.

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Speaker 3: If Daniel Jones is healthy next year but not able

603
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Speaker 3: to go full throttle, if he can't go into wait

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00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 3: for it, physical activity until November of next year, then

605
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 3: you run the risk you can't run out Anthony Richardson

606
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 3: at that point for two or three games and then

607
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,719
Speaker 3: yank him back out because what if A he's playing

608
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 3: really well and now you've developed yourself a quarterback controversy,

609
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 3: or B he plays well to the point where then

610
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 3: you start to discuss and have the mention of what

611
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 3: do you do in terms of signing him beyond that

612
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Speaker 3: when you already now have invested into Daniel Jones, and

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00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 3: Jones I think will come at lesser a cost than

614
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Speaker 3: with Richardson because of the fact he's coming up the injury.

615
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 3: Although Richard I'm saying if Richardson had time to show

616
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 3: and started to show some glimpse of what he could do,

617
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 3: butther was in action last night against Yukon Brayla Mullins

618
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 3: really good, really good, and I think he's probably if

619
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Speaker 3: he wants to be. It looks like the reigning Indiana

620
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 3: Mister Basketball could be a one and done in stores Connecticut,

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Speaker 3: because he's really good. He's not a guy that jumps

622
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Speaker 3: out and you know, you look at the box score

623
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Speaker 3: and you go, well, he didn't have twenty five. He did,

624
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 3: but he is so offensively fluid and efficient, and he

625
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 3: can do so many other things on the floor that

626
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 3: it feels like he is playing his way into NBA

627
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 3: lottery conversation. But Butler got out to a good start

628
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 3: last night. Then Connecticut, you know, on the road, does

629
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Speaker 3: I mean, look, it's a top five team, right, I

630
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 3: will readily admit that I don't know still this Butler

631
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 3: roster and team probably like I should, but certainly as

632
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 3: well as Indiana and Purdue. But last night that taking

633
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 3: place in Connecticut. Stephanie White gonna join us coming up

634
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 3: at the top of the hour. And Stephanie told me

635
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 3: yesterday when I talked to her, she said, well, I'm

636
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 3: going to be on a flight, but I will be

637
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 3: off the plane and then I'll be available about one.

638
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 3: And I said, well, can I guess where you're flying from?

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00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: I do know this.

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00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 3: She was in Raleigh Durham, North Carolina as part of

641
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 3: the team USA Women's basketball. She's doing work with them,

642
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 3: and that is for the Feeble Women's Basketball Championships of

643
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. So then the easy guess would be

644
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 3: that she's going from Raleigh home. But they were done

645
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,959
Speaker 3: like over the weekend. Would you like to guess where

646
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 3: she's flying from, Nathaniel, is she going? Do you think

647
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 3: it's a basketball trip or do you think it's a

648
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 3: vacation like a she went on vacation.

649
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 4: Well, she does a lot of work in the NBA,

650
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 4: so I would guess a basketball.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's also yes, but again NBA though right now

652
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Speaker 3: on this odd lull, right, it's it's it's almost like

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Speaker 3: the All Star break. She's going to join us at

654
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Speaker 3: one o'clock and we will get into that, and I

655
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Speaker 3: want to tip the cap to a couple of things

656
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Speaker 3: before that, and I'll do it.

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Speaker 2: Next Query and Company on ninety three five and one

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Speaker 2: oh seven five the.

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Speaker 3: Fan, Nathaniel, don't call me Atticus Finch. You realize, by

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Speaker 3: the way, Nathaniel, And I'm very proud of this, very

661
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Speaker 3: proud of this. That Eddie Garrison, when referencing you to me,

662
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Speaker 3: calls you now strictly Atticus.

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Speaker 4: Now that bothers you, does I've ever heard that from.

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Speaker 3: I mean, ready, well, hold on, but you got to

665
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Speaker 3: be you're being sarcastic there, right, No, No.

666
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Speaker 5: I've never no one's called me Atticus. When you said it,

667
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 5: I'm like, holy count, how is that the first? I mean,

668
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 5: how I lived at that point, you know, twenty something years,

669
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Speaker 5: had never heard of it.

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00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: Well, were you familiar with To Kill a Mockingbird? Oh?

671
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And I loved it because you know,

672
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Speaker 5: everyone's name is Finch, but no one ever called me Atticus.

673
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: I could have called you scout right.

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Speaker 4: I'm happy you didn't, right, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, bou Radley's not a Finch, right, He's just like

676
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 3: a friend, So you know. Nonetheless, Nathaniel, don't call me Atticus.

677
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 3: Finch is filling in today for Eddie. And now the

678
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Speaker 3: schedule that you're here for the rest of the year,

679
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 3: right is that right? And then most of twenty six

680
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 3: apparently they haven't told you this yet. I'm being sycased. Okay,

681
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 3: all right, A couple of things I wanted to point

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Speaker 3: out Stepanie, why coming up in just a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 3: First off, to the text line, you can always text

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Speaker 3: the show at three one seven seventy. Also to my

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Speaker 3: I hope that the station doesn't mind because they have

686
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Speaker 3: that software that came with the the Elixir for the

687
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Speaker 3: station text line. But then also people text me directly

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Speaker 3: ninety two eighty eight is my cell phone number five

689
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Speaker 3: three nine two eight eight. This from Joe Jake. I

690
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 3: think you're right, Shane is done with Anthony. This from

691
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Speaker 3: John It's almost like he'd rather be on IR so

692
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 3: he just wouldn't have to deal with it anymore. He

693
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 3: sounds like he's just annoyed by the availability of Richardson,

694
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 3: like a gnat and a barbecue, just bugging him. Again,

695
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Speaker 3: none of this is a knock or critique on Anthony

696
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Speaker 3: Richardson as a person, but as a player, it absolutely

697
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Speaker 3: feels like that is the case.

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Speaker 1: Like they just it feels like he's done with them.

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Speaker 3: Uh, do you happen to have the breaking news sounder?

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Speaker 3: This just in It's a story that we have had

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Speaker 3: our ears and eyes on from the very beginning, and

702
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 3: it is not one that is fun to report because

703
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 3: I have appreciation respect for all parties involved. Really, but

704
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Speaker 3: there is now a lawsuit that has been play placed

705
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Speaker 3: and filed for players of IU Indy against their former

706
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Speaker 3: basketball coach, Paul Cassaro. Sixth former I'm reading this from

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Speaker 3: the Indianapolis Star. This just coming out. Sixth former Indiana

708
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Speaker 3: University indianapolismen's basketball players are suing the university and its trustees,

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Speaker 3: so not against Cassarro himself, regarding the alleged abuse they

710
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 3: suffered under the watch of the team's former coach, Paul Cassarro.

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00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 3: As soon as the players arrived on campus, Casaro subjected

712
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Speaker 3: them to relentless psychological and physical abuse or harassment. According

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00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 3: to court documents. He was relieved of his duties after

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Speaker 3: one year. So my apologies for the wording that I

715
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 3: initially said that the lawsuit is not against directly Paul Carsoro,

716
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Speaker 3: but rather against the universe for the.

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Speaker 1: Fact that Paul Caersorrow was their coach.

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Speaker 3: Now on the other side of it, before we got

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Speaker 3: to that breaking news, I did want to point out

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Speaker 3: just a couple of shoutouts, if you will. I think

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Speaker 3: it's a new thing I'm gonna do. I'm going to

722
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 3: do a new thing on the show, just occasionally, because

723
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Speaker 3: you can't do it all the time. When you do

724
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Speaker 3: it all the time, then you know, after a while,

725
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Speaker 3: it dilutes itself down a little bitter. It seems forced,

726
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 3: if you will. But the other night, for example, I

727
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Speaker 3: was driving home and I walked into the village pantry

728
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Speaker 3: on Broaderpeol Avenue.

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Speaker 1: It was about nine o'clock or so, and I was

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Speaker 1: looking for Actually.

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Speaker 3: It was when the two and I have no idea,

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Speaker 3: this might be a myth as to whether or not

733
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Speaker 3: this stuff's even needed. But when the temperature gets like

734
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Speaker 3: super cold, and I knew that we were getting ready

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Speaker 3: to go to Milwaukee and my car was going to

736
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Speaker 3: be sitting outside for a couple of days, so I went.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to find heat. Now, Nathaniel, have you ever

738
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Speaker 3: put heat in your car? It's the gas line and

739
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Speaker 3: a freeze that prohibit your gas from freezing, which is

740
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Speaker 3: probably some sort of hoth. I've probably a marketing scam

741
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Speaker 3: because I'm guessing that gas doesn't freeze anyway. But there's

742
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 3: like this peace of mind, right. So I went to

743
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 3: a couple of gas stations. They didn't have them. I

744
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 3: was on my way home and I'm like, you know

745
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Speaker 3: what VP might have it, village pantry. So I stopped

746
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Speaker 3: at the village pantry on Broaderpool Avenue and I walk

747
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Speaker 3: in looking for a bodily heat and when I walked in,

748
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Speaker 3: and I've gone to that village pantry off and on

749
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Speaker 3: for over the years, for thirty years, probably.

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Speaker 1: I worked in brought able for years.

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Speaker 3: And I walked in and I stopped, and I looked around,

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, and I literally say, I saw one

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Speaker 3: thing in the store too, actually two things I saw.

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Speaker 3: One was a woman I'm gonna guess she was ten

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Speaker 3: to fifteen years older than I, and the other was

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Speaker 3: a mop bucket that clearly she had vacated the mop

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Speaker 3: bucket to beat to go behind the counter to assist

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Speaker 3: me with whatever I needed. And I to her, you

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Speaker 3: know what, I've been in this village pantry for years,

760
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Speaker 3: and I've never seen it more spotlessly clean ever, And

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Speaker 3: she like gave me this huge grin and said, well thanks.

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Speaker 3: I just think that my job when I'm in here

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Speaker 3: is to make sure that everything looks good, and I

764
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Speaker 3: might as well keep myself busy. And she goes, as

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Speaker 3: a matter of fact, I just cleaned the freezer, because

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Speaker 3: why not. And I looked around and I said, every

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Speaker 3: single inch of this place is perfectly symmetrically where it

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00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 3: needs to be, and there's not a and it's not

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Speaker 3: easy this time yere because everybody's tracing in like salt

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Speaker 3: and everything else. And I said to her, you know, honestly, like,

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Speaker 3: how long have you worked here? Well, I've worked here

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Speaker 3: about a year. I worked the overnight shift. But I

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Speaker 3: just it's I consider it kind of like my baby,

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Speaker 3: and so I need to keep it clean. And I said,

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Speaker 3: what's your name? Bambi is her name? Bamby grew up

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Speaker 3: on the east side of Indianapolis. She told me that

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Speaker 3: she went to school fifty four even though she lived

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Speaker 3: right across the street from a different school, but got

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Speaker 3: busted over to fifty four. And she said she loved

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Speaker 3: it because she loved the kids in the education. But

781
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Speaker 3: then her bussing got rerouted and redistricted. She ended up

782
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Speaker 3: going to a different school, went to Howe High School,

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Speaker 3: and now works at the VP. And I love anybody

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Speaker 3: that takes a pride in their work and make sure

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Speaker 3: that they're doing their work to the best of their ability.

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Speaker 3: And I have no idea who owns village pantry these days,

787
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 3: it used to be marsh I have no idea, but

788
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Speaker 3: whoever it is, it is my hope. If you know

789
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Speaker 3: anybody that has any connection to the VP in broad

790
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Speaker 3: A Bowl. You tell them that Bamby's got that place

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Speaker 3: absolutely shining, and there's a pride in that, and I can.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it and I respect it.

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Speaker 3: Additionally, Hey, Jake, wanted to tell you about a young

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Speaker 3: lady named Emily who works at the Kroger at seventy

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Speaker 3: ninth in Fall Creek. She's there every morning, super sweet,

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00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 3: works super hard, always says hello and goodbye and have

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00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 3: a nice day when you walk out. She is one

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Speaker 3: of those people that in the morning time. It just

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Speaker 3: makes it better every time that I go and see her,

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Speaker 3: and it makes it worth going to Kroger. So Emily

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00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 3: at the seventy ninth in fall Creek, and I actually

802
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 3: am in that area a fairly decent amount now, so

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00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 3: I will absolutely stop in and say hi to Emily.

804
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 3: But it's those things I'm telling you, I think that

805
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 3: we get so caught up in and we make such

806
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 3: a thing about and on this program we talk about

807
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 3: NFL quarterbacks and NBA point guards and coaches that are

808
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 3: like Kurt Signetti and congratulations to him a two time

809
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 3: Coach of the Year now two time AP Coach of

810
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 3: the Year in college football. For Kurt Signetti, no surprise whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: We talk about people and another great story for that matter,

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00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 3: like at Indiana State. Okay, at Indiana State, you have

813
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 3: this situation where Coach Graves goes in and feels under

814
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 3: the weather and the next thing you know, he's having

815
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Speaker 3: to get what double bypass or quadruple bypass, triple I

816
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 3: care And I'm not making light of it, a massive

817
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 3: heart surgery. Okay, but Matthew Graves. This from Indiana State.

818
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 3: Indiana State Athletics is thrilled to welcome back Matthew Graves

819
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 3: to the sideline. Tomorrow night is the Sycamores host Bradley

820
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 3: inside the Home and Center. Coach Graves will be serving

821
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Speaker 3: in a limited role until fully cleared. He is deeply

822
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Speaker 3: grateful to the doctors and nurses at Union Health for

823
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 3: their exceptional care and support throughout his recovery. Let's make

824
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 3: sure to give Coach Matthew Graves a big, warm welcome

825
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 3: back on Thursday night. Congratulations and awesome there to hear

826
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Speaker 3: about Matthew Graves. Triple bypass, triple bypass. That is absolutely

827
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 3: no joke at all. But you know, we talk so

828
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Speaker 3: much about people that are at the top of their profession,

829
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 3: and we talk so much about victories and team wins

830
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 3: and celebrating them and Super Bowls and who's going to

831
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Speaker 3: be the best, et cetera. The reality is that there

832
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 3: are people going out every single day, and one person's

833
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 3: Super Bowl is another person's wild Card, and one person's

834
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 3: World Series is another person's making the little league roster.

835
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 3: It's all relative, and so to me, you have to applaud,

836
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 3: command and recognize the success of somebody going in and

837
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 3: simply saying I am letting my work be fueled by

838
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 3: my pride in doing the right thing and going about

839
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Speaker 3: it the right way, which is why if you see Bamby,

840
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 3: stop in and say hi. See Emily, stop in and

841
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,919
Speaker 3: say hi. You see my man Alex at Market City

842
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 3: Pop or Market Score Popcorn in Castleton, stop in and

843
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 3: say hi. Stephanie White is one of those that has

844
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 3: always had kind of that I guess approach to things.

845
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 3: It goes without saying. You do not become a miss basketball.

846
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 3: You do not become a scoring leader. You do not

847
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 3: become an NCAA champion. You do not become a WNBA player,

848
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 3: a WNBA coach and international coach, a television broadcast and

849
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 3: radio broadcast analyst of games without having an every day

850
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 3: a pro coach to going about things and making sure

851
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 3: that you're doing it to the best of your ability.

852
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 3: And she's had a busy off season. Weird to say

853
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 3: off season when we are in the thick of it

854
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 3: for so many sports right now, including for the Pacers,

855
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 3: but fever off season that means international season, and Stephanie

856
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 3: White's been busy with that.

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00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: We'll catch up with her.

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00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 3: We'll catch up on what she said about Asia Wilson,

859
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 3: the latest with where Caitlin Clark is, and also the

860
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 3: international basketball and let's face it, w NBA and their

861
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 3: collective bargaining agreement. Lot to catch up on, and we'll

862
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 3: do it next.

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Speaker 2: Query and Company on ninety three five and one oh

864
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 2: seven five the Fan.

865
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 3: When Stephanie White was kind enough to join us over

866
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 3: the course of the WNBA season, we would take her

867
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 3: musical requests each and every week, and.

868
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: It was Kenny.

869
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 3: Chesney At one point, I think we went Hooty and

870
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 3: the Blowfish at one point I don't think we ever

871
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 3: did two live crew. But then I asked her what

872
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 3: she wanted for this and that, So she picks the

873
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 3: song that instantly makes you feel like you're walking through

874
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 3: any all in nineteen ninety five, right, and most people

875
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 3: say that's the most annoying Christmas song of all time.

876
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: I gotta admit catchy. Don't you think it's catchy?

877
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 4: Nathaniel, it's catchy. You know she's our only guest that

878
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 4: gets to pick their re entry.

879
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 3: I know that's that's what she's earned that right. She

880
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 3: joins us now in the Java House Peel and poor

881
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 3: guest line. She is the head coach of the Indiana Fever.

882
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 3: Amongst her broadcast duties with basketball as well, a Stephanie

883
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 3: White joining us.

884
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, Stephanie, Merry Christmas.

885
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 3: So you like the song or you just it's become

886
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 3: so ubiquitous in the American culture you decided to go

887
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 3: with it because we're a week away.

888
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 8: I love this song. I love this song.

889
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 9: In fact, when we're the first song that's played when

890
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 9: we're decorating the Christmas tree the day after the Thanksgiving

891
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 9: is that song.

892
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:43,240
Speaker 8: It's iconic?

893
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 3: Okay, and that's fair. Now, what's the second one? What's okay?

894
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 3: Let me ask us, what's give me? The Christmas Carol?

895
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 3: Of the Christmas Carol's the wrong word. But the recorded

896
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 3: Christmas song that other people like that you're like, yeah, okay.

897
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 8: No, you know what.

898
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 9: I love Christmas music, so there's probably not one that

899
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 9: I would say no, I don't like so big. I'm

900
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 9: a big Christmas music fan. If I could start Christmas

901
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 9: music after Halloween, I would.

902
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm cool with that. You know the one that

903
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: I like?

904
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 3: And you tell me if you consider this a Christmas song,

905
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 3: I mean it kind of is, but it's more Christmas was,

906
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 3: and that is Do they know it's Christmas by band Aid,

907
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 3: which obviously was a fundraiser in nineteen eighty five trying

908
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 3: to raise.

909
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 1: Money for you know, feed the World. You know the song, right?

910
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 8: I don't know the song? Yeah. I like to find

911
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 8: that song and play it at some point.

912
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 3: Okay, Nathaniel find Do they know it's Christmas by band Aid?

913
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 3: You'll know when you hear it. I'm just a terrible

914
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 3: I'm introducing it in a terrible way. All right, Let's

915
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 3: begin with this. When I asked if you could come

916
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 3: on because we have a number of things I want

917
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 3: to get to, you mentioned that you had a flight

918
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 3: today and I was going to guess your flight, and

919
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,959
Speaker 3: then I looked, and I cheated a little bit because

920
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 3: I know you were just in Raleigh, North Carolina. Correct,

921
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 3: I was and is, So I'm going to guess that

922
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 3: you were flying. But then again, so I think most

923
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 3: people know this that you don't you spend your off

924
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 3: season outside of Indiana, right, But that would have only

925
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 3: been like an hour flight, So I'm going to guess

926
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 3: that you were not flying from Raleigh. I'm going to

927
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 3: say that you are taking advantage of a little bit

928
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 3: of downtime in basketball, and you are enjoying the warm

929
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 3: weather for a few days, and you're in Florida.

930
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 8: No, that's not right.

931
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 9: I was actually flying home to Nashville from New York

932
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 9: from an event last night. So yeah, I'm popping around

933
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 9: right now.

934
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with that.

935
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 3: All right, let's begin with this. The involvement and the

936
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 3: reason that you were in Raleigh. Okay, the US women's team,

937
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 3: if I'm not mistaken, and totally feel free to correct

938
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 3: me if I'm wrong, is getting ready for the FEBA

939
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 3: Women's Basketball Championships of twenty six.

940
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: That includes Caitlyn.

941
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 3: Clark, and you are part of that group that is

942
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 3: coaching and overseeing it. Now fill in the blanks where

943
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 3: I'm wrong.

944
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 8: Yeah, I know you're right.

945
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 9: I mean it's a group that's that had our first

946
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 9: mini camp of the cycle. We'll have another one in

947
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 9: the spring, most likely at the Final four.

948
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 8: A lot of new young players.

949
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 10: Of course.

950
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 9: Caitlin Clark was one of those. E Leah Boston was

951
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 9: there as well. Kelsey Mitchell was an invite but didn't

952
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 9: get to go because of a family obligation. But she'll

953
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 9: certainly be in the pool as well. So are in

954
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 9: Indiana Fever represented. And these are women who are who

955
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 9: are vying for a spot on the senior national team

956
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 9: for the Feeble World Cup and for the Olympics, the

957
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 9: twenty twenty Olympics.

958
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 3: Now, now step down. I'm gonna be honest with you.

959
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 3: And we had this happen yesterday. It happened to Scott Agnes,

960
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 3: so blame him and Don Fisher also, this happened to we.

961
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 3: Somehow our system speeds up a little bit what you're saying.

962
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 3: So I want people to know you're not actually on helium, right,

963
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 3: I mean like yours That's what it.

964
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 9: Sounded like again, huh So, so you know, I'll be

965
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 9: honest with you.

966
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: Sound a little like Lynn Dunn if you really want

967
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: to know this es right, no idea, come on, no very.

968
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 3: Super energetic, right Lynn Dunn's Lynn Doune is. She's like

969
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 3: the Java house peeling poor coffee. Right, She's instant energy.

970
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 3: She's like the Wrangler energy.

971
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 8: I like it, right, Yes, yes she is.

972
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 3: Okay, you sound a little not Southern drawlly. But do

973
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 3: you mind selling here if we because I do want

974
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 3: your perspectives? Do you mind sounding a little helium e here?

975
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 3: Are you willing to wade through that?

976
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 8: Sure? I'm willing to do that.

977
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: Okay, thanks for you, just for.

978
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 3: You, thank you, well, Merry Christmas to me, right, Okay,

979
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 3: So I do want to get to this because, you know,

980
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 3: for Kaitlin Clark for example, when you know, when when

981
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 3: you have a player that's coming off injury or that

982
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 3: was injured, and then you start to get into those

983
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 3: conversations in today's basketball world of you know, just to

984
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 3: wear and tear. But at the same time, the benefit

985
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 3: of being able to play different with different style, with

986
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 3: different teammates and obviously representing the United States that goes

987
00:52:56,040 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 3: without saying, but is there some potential I hate to

988
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:04,720
Speaker 3: use your drawback that can come with the non stop playing.

989
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 9: I mean, of course there's there's drawback that can come

990
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:08,919
Speaker 9: with non stop playing.

991
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 8: I mean, we've got women in our league who have been.

992
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 9: Playing essentially twelve months of the year their entire careers,

993
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 9: so so there can be you know, I think for

994
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 9: somebody specific to Caitlin, you know, being able to play

995
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 9: now is it's something that she desperately wants to need.

996
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 9: She hasn't really played for a long time, and you know,

997
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 9: working her way back and preparing herself for this training camp,

998
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 9: she's it's been a grind and it's not easy, and

999
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 9: she's done an excellent job and I thought she was

1000
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 9: really ready to go.

1001
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 8: You know, she looked good in training camp.

1002
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 9: But I think that the most important thing is for

1003
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 9: her is getting reps, you know.

1004
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 8: And then you've got players who played twelve.

1005
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 9: Months out of the year in the various leagues and overseas,

1006
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 9: and you've got players who don't. And in the off

1007
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 9: season when you don't play, then you've got to find

1008
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 9: a way to get games.

1009
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 8: And we all know like pickup games.

1010
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 9: Isn't it right, Like to try to find find your

1011
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,240
Speaker 9: rhythm and your timing and get all of that stuff back.

1012
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 3: Do you you've had a chance now, Stephanie to really

1013
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 3: you know, it was a it was an impressive run

1014
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 3: that you guys had, and I know that you know,

1015
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 3: without Caitlyn Clark, there was that question that kind of

1016
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 3: lingered over the course of the year. There were you know,

1017
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 3: you had made some comments about how you felt about

1018
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 3: Caitlin Clark kind of being in the middle of you know,

1019
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 3: a pawn I think is the word you used of

1020
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 3: just you know, some of the different marketing aspects and

1021
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 3: you know, being the face of a league really and

1022
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 3: so there was so much going on at the end

1023
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 3: of the season for the Indiana Fever in for you

1024
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 3: and I know you're busy with other things, but did

1025
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 3: you really get a chance now to sit back and

1026
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:45,399
Speaker 3: kind of go over and process and absorb what it

1027
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 3: was that you guys accomplished.

1028
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I think you can get a chance

1029
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 9: to really look back and see all of the adversity

1030
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 9: that we went through from the beginning of the year

1031
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 9: to the end of the year, and you know, the

1032
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 9: special group that we had that positioned us to be

1033
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 9: right there to go to the w NBA Finals.

1034
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 8: You know, I think it's it's it's.

1035
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 9: From an outside perspective, all the all the people that

1036
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 9: I get to.

1037
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 8: Talked to talk about how how remarkable it was.

1038
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 9: But from being on the inside, it's just it's it's

1039
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 9: next player up, and it's how do we position ourselves?

1040
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 8: How do we get creative enough to be a.

1041
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 9: Team that can compete and be the be the best

1042
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 9: version of what we have? And you know, there was

1043
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 9: never a doubt in terms of belief that we could

1044
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 9: still get there and do it. And and there was

1045
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 9: never a moment where anyone, you know, hesitated. It was

1046
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 9: just what do we need to do, how do we

1047
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 9: need to get there? And and let's put ourselves in

1048
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 9: position to be successful and and so yes, you look

1049
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 9: back on and it's like, holy cow, we went through

1050
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 9: all of that and still we're twenty seconds away from

1051
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 9: the w NBA Finals.

1052
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 3: When you look, Stephanie at moving forward now and getting

1053
00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 3: the chance to watch Caitlin Clark with the different players

1054
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 3: for a different team and the international standpoint here, will

1055
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 3: that give you a couple of things that you can

1056
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 3: kind of put in the arsenal as you work her

1057
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 3: back in with the fever of maybe glimpses of stylistically

1058
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 3: or schematically areas where you can take advantage of her

1059
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 3: skill set. Are you constantly looking for new ways of

1060
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,720
Speaker 3: that and could this introduce that to both you and Kitlin?

1061
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean we're always constantly looking for ways to

1062
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 9: do that, whether it's you know, through those experiences or

1063
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 9: games that we're watching on television, there are certainly those opportunities.

1064
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 9: I think the thing that's unique is that most people

1065
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 9: don't quite understand about the USA Basketball experience is that,

1066
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 9: you know, for day basketball, you're talking about having the

1067
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 9: twelve best players you know that are going to make

1068
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 9: it make the best team to compete for gold medal.

1069
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 9: And there are very few players who go through the

1070
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 9: USA Basketball experience that are that are allowed to quote

1071
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,280
Speaker 9: unquote be themselves right so that they're the same version

1072
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 9: of player that they are with their teams in the

1073
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 9: w n B A because you're sacrificing playing with all

1074
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 9: of these other great players and you're playing FEVA rules

1075
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 9: which are different than w NBA rules, which are different,

1076
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 9: you know. So so I think that in the experience

1077
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 9: of USA basketball, you play a different role. Every single

1078
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 9: player plays a different role. And so to watch Caitlin

1079
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 9: ab you know, playing a different role taking on you know,

1080
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 9: different different ownership levels of that role. Is it's cool

1081
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 9: because you can see, okay, all right, like, look we

1082
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 9: can maybe we can adjust and do this out of

1083
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 9: this time out or or in these situations. Look, they're

1084
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 9: always going to be who they are for our team,

1085
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 9: but how can we add little nuances, uh to be

1086
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 9: able to gain advantage?

1087
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 8: I think is important.

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00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: Do you find Stephanie Stephanie White's my guest, Java House

1089
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: Peel and poor guest line. Does seeing the game through

1090
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: coaching help you with broadcasting or does seeing the game

1091
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: as a broadcaster more help you as a coach?

1092
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 9: It's both, you know, it really is. And I and

1093
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 9: when I was at Vanderbilding College coaching, one of the

1094
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 9: things that I missed the most was being able to

1095
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 9: have that macro and micro view. I feel like broadcasting

1096
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 9: and coaching it evens me out so I can I

1097
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 9: can give the viewer a behind the scenes look at

1098
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 9: at strategy and and and and and the micro that

1099
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 9: goes into to the game, and and and subtleties that

1100
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,439
Speaker 9: go into the game, and nuance that goes into the game.

1101
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 8: But when I come.

1102
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 9: Back to trading camp every year, I've seen the macro view.

1103
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 8: You know, I talk to.

1104
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 9: Coaches all the time and it's like, oh my gosh,

1105
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 9: like you are doing your team is doing this, this

1106
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 9: and this really well. Or they're doing this, this, this

1107
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 9: and well. And it's like, yeah, but we're not doing this,

1108
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 9: this is this and.

1109
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 8: This right, That's just what coaches do.

1110
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 9: This is our job is to to find every weakness

1111
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 9: that we have and try to eliminate it. And so

1112
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 9: it gives me a different perspective. So when I come in,

1113
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 9: I have a big picture of view. I have a

1114
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 9: view of Okay, well we might be limited here, but

1115
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 9: what are we doing well that we can accentuate.

1116
00:58:58,640 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 8: And then every year I come.

1117
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 9: Into the all and I'm more in the in the

1118
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 9: in the micro viewpoint, more in the tunnels aspect, more

1119
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 9: in the details, and then the nitty gritty of the

1120
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 9: coaching mind. So I feel like it balances out for me.

1121
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 9: It helps me be better in both areas. And I

1122
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 9: hope that it gives the viewer a good perspective when

1123
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 9: I'm calling a game, and I hope that it gives

1124
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 9: gives our players a good perspective when I come back

1125
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 9: in the spring.

1126
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 3: Will it be a challenge to reacclimate Caitlin Clark to

1127
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 3: just the fever roster. I mean there was you know,

1128
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 3: obviously you guys had so much and it was remarkable.

1129
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 3: I mean it truly was a credit to the women

1130
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 3: on your team. As you mentioned, you know, everyone's stepping

1131
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 3: up and not knowing what the role was going to

1132
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 3: be from one week to the next. Really, but will

1133
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 3: it be a challenge to reacclimate both Caitlin Clark to

1134
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 3: her teammates and her teammates to Caitlin Clark after what

1135
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 3: was accomplished.

1136
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 9: I don't know if it's a challenge after what was

1137
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 9: accomplished as opposed to just a challenge of reintegrating a

1138
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,479
Speaker 9: player that has so much gravity, you know, to your team.

1139
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 9: You know, you get used to playing with a groups

1140
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 9: that plays a certain way, and then you bring a

1141
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 9: player who's going to have the ball in her hands

1142
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 9: every possession down the floor and you play differently. So

1143
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 9: I think that and we saw that at various points

1144
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 9: throughout the season when she was in and out, So

1145
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 9: so I don't think that's going to be the challenge.

1146
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 9: I think the challenge for us as a whole is

1147
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 9: going to be what does our roster makeup look like,

1148
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 9: I mean, outside of four players, everybody's a free agent.

1149
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 9: Ninety five or ninety six percent of the league is

1150
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 9: a free agent this year, something crazy like that. So

1151
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 9: what is it going to look like? What are a

1152
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 9: roster's going to look like? How will once we get

1153
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 9: a deal with the CBA, how will that impact who

1154
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 9: we're able to bring in and how we want to play?

1155
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 3: Where do things stand right now with the Collective Bargaining Agreement?

1156
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 3: I know that it's been the timeline of that has moved, right.

1157
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 9: Yes, yeah, the timeline of we've extended the negotiating windows and.

1158
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 3: That in terms of and I don't know how much

1159
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 3: you can even say about it, maybe maybe it's none whatsoever.

1160
01:00:56,160 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 3: But you know that challenge if you will, not knowing

1161
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 3: where things stand, how difficult is that?

1162
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 8: It's it's challenging.

1163
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 9: You know, I'm thankful I'm not Amber Cox right now

1164
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 9: our GM and you're having to try to guess what

1165
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 9: might happen and what might not. But it's challenging because

1166
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 9: the unknown. It's challenging because the timeline has changed, you know.

1167
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 9: For for for us, we typically knew when free agency

1168
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 9: was going to open up, when the expansion Draft was

1169
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 9: going to happen when we could sign free agents and

1170
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 9: then you build into the draft. So the timeline has changed.

1171
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 9: It's going to be shortened, you know, when when gets made,

1172
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 9: and it's it's it's going to be, you know.

1173
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 8: A rat race, so to speak. It's just it's gonna

1174
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 8: be it's.

1175
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 9: Going to be fast and furious and trying to make decisions,

1176
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 9: trying to figure out who you can fit into whatever

1177
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 9: the new salary cap is going to be. And and

1178
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 9: so I I think it's it's it's challenging, but it's

1179
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 9: also a necessary part of the business. You know, we've

1180
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 9: seen every professional league go through this. You know, certainly

1181
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 9: we'd love for it to be seamless, and but it's

1182
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 9: it's not seamless, and and it's just the hand that

1183
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 9: we're dealt and we've got to play it.

1184
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 3: I thought I saw a headline, and you tell me

1185
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 3: if it was clickbait, that you had recently done an

1186
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 3: interview coming off of the experience with Team USA, and

1187
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 3: it said like Stephanie White says, Asia Wilson is the

1188
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 3: best player in the world, And I thought, well, she

1189
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 3: coaches Caitlin Clark, who's pretty darn good, and I know

1190
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 3: you have great respect for all great players. Was that

1191
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 3: a clickbait headline or did you say it that overtly?

1192
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't. I don't know about that.

1193
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 9: I think that that might have been clickickbait, but but

1194
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 9: I do think that Asia Willson is.

1195
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 8: One of the best players in the world, There's no

1196
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 8: doubt about that.

1197
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 3: The when you see different great players and you get

1198
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 3: it is it refreshing, I guess too, and fun to

1199
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 3: be able to get involved with and kind of get

1200
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 3: a glimpse inside of the greatness of players that you

1201
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 3: normally would not on a day to day.

1202
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 1: Be working with.

1203
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 9: It really is, you know, to be in the gym

1204
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 9: with with players, to see how they work, see how

1205
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 9: they operate, to to be able to put them in

1206
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 9: different positions.

1207
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 8: It's it's awesome. And you know, you learn too.

1208
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 9: I learn, you know, how how different players number one prepare,

1209
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 9: you know, and it's whenever we're talking about young players,

1210
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 9: especially young players can learn from the veterans.

1211
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 8: You know, who's the first one in the gym.

1212
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 9: What have they been doing, you know in the weight

1213
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 9: room prior to what are they doing in the weight room?

1214
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 9: You know, right after I'll never forget my first Team

1215
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 9: USA experience last year.

1216
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 8: You know, Jackie Young was an example.

1217
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 9: I was in the gym earlier in the morning at

1218
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 9: the hotel getting to work out in. She was in

1219
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 9: there in the gym getting a workout in, and then

1220
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 9: right after, you know, a two and a half hour practice,

1221
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 9: she's in the weight room at the facility, you know,

1222
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:38,919
Speaker 9: doing the versa climber. I mean, it's just it's how

1223
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 9: you work and how you prepare and you know, how

1224
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 9: you keep your body ready. And I think for a

1225
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 9: lot of young players learning how to be a pro,

1226
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 9: it's challenging, right because you can't do the same level

1227
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 9: of things that you were doing in college. It requires

1228
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 9: a different version, It requires a different attention to detail,

1229
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 9: it requires more. I mean, you know, the stories about

1230
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 9: Lebron James and how early he's at the gym on

1231
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 9: a game day, you know, are well renowned. So learning

1232
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 9: that I think is important for me.

1233
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 8: Learning. You know, how players like to warm.

1234
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 9: Up, what are the different drills that they like to do,

1235
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 9: being able to apply some of that, what are they

1236
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 9: like in game? What kind of situations can we continue

1237
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 9: to challenge and stretch our players based on what I'm

1238
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 9: learning from these other players, and then to just marvel

1239
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 9: in their greatness. I mean, you know, just just being

1240
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 9: out there and watching them the best in the world,

1241
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 9: do what they do best, and and just the joy

1242
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 9: that that brings, you know, a basketball that like.

1243
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 3: Me, Stephanie, I want to ask you. And we have

1244
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 3: this song by the way, I'm going to see on

1245
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 3: the way out if you know, do they know It's

1246
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 3: Christmas by Bandaid. But before we do that, I wanted

1247
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 3: to give you this opportunity you mentioned, you know, just

1248
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 3: seeing examples right when I was For example, when I

1249
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 3: was in high school as a freshman, I'll never forget

1250
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 3: that there were two varsity players. I was a freshman

1251
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 3: player and kind of a fringe player, right, and there

1252
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 3: were two guys that were on the varsity team, Todd

1253
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 3: Geyer and Tony Barbie, Okay, and they were like kind

1254
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 3: of star players, and they they kind of took me

1255
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 3: under their wing of you know, hey, kid, like here's

1256
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:06,919
Speaker 3: what you do and giving me a ride home after

1257
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 3: practice and those things. But it made me feel like,

1258
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 3: in fact, I belonged. It made me feel like I

1259
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 3: was part of the team. And to have the endorsement

1260
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 3: of those guys was so big for me as a

1261
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 3: young player. Who was the player or whether it be

1262
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 3: a player or just an older person in the neighborhood,

1263
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 3: whoever it might be, Who was that for you at

1264
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 3: a young age where before you realized the greatness that

1265
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 3: was within you, you realized that somebody else made you

1266
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 3: feel like you belonged.

1267
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:38,439
Speaker 9: Wow, I you know, I don't think as a young

1268
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 9: person I had that. You know, there weren't There weren't

1269
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 9: a lot of well, number one, when I was when

1270
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 9: I was young, there weren't a lot of female basketball

1271
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 9: role models that were visible right that I that I

1272
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 9: that I saw home.

1273
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 8: You know.

1274
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,919
Speaker 9: I used to go play at the old West leven

1275
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 9: And gym with what I called the old guys at

1276
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 9: the time, which they're probably younger than I am right now,

1277
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 9: when I was exactly yeah, and they and they taught

1278
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 9: me how to play the game right, like throwing in

1279
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 9: front of somebody when they're running to the rim, not

1280
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 9: where they are or they're going to starting to anticipate,

1281
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 9: you know, defenses, starting to anticipate actions.

1282
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 8: You know, they taught me all of that stuff.

1283
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 9: You know, I would say when I big college Stacey,

1284
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 9: who was who was a senior on team when I

1285
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 9: was a freshman with someone who just kind of, you know,

1286
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 9: helped me navigate the adjustment to college life. You know,

1287
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 9: everything from from finding the doctor's appointments that they didn't

1288
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 9: handhold us like they do now right, you don't have

1289
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 9: everything kind of set up for you, to navigating study

1290
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 9: to study tables and and and all of those things,

1291
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 9: you know. And then and then when I was a pro,

1292
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 9: it was watching Dawn Staley as my as a rookie.

1293
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 8: I was a rookie and she was.

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01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 9: She had been a pro for a long time. We

1295
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 9: were on the same team in Charlotte. It was watching

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01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 9: her and how she works and and and you know,

1297
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 9: Vicky Bullet calls me my first day in Charlotte, It's like, hey,

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01:06:57,880 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 9: we're going to the gym.

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01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 8: Let's go. You know, those guys, guys who had.

1300
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 9: Been around and who had been pros showing me what

1301
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 9: it means to be to be a pro. You don't

1302
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 9: wait till the first day of training camp. If you're

1303
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 9: there three days Earli, you're getting in the gym and

1304
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 9: you're getting your work in, and you know, those guys

1305
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 9: helping me understand what it means to prepare and be

1306
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 9: a pro.

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01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 3: Okay, lastly, because it dropped out for a second, give

1308
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 3: me the name of the Purdue player again when you first.

1309
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 1: Got to produce.

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01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, Stacey Lovely.

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01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 3: Stacy Lovelace. Okay, all right, here we go. Nathaniel, you

1312
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 3: have qued up. This is from now you remember, now, Stephanie,

1313
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 3: you do remember.

1314
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: Like we are the world? Right? You remember that?

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01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1316
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 1: Okay.

1317
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 3: So Bob Geldolf, who was part of that entire kind

1318
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 3: of initiative, also did a along with Bono and mid

1319
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 3: Jury was the name of the writer. But they formed

1320
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 3: a group together called band Aid, which was to raise

1321
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 3: money for you know, famine and you know the impoverished

1322
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 3: in mostly Africa and Ethiopia. But the name of the

1323
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 3: song was do they know It's Christmas? From band Aid?

1324
01:07:55,280 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 3: See if you know this one or not? Okay, does

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01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 3: or does not sound familiar to Stephanie White?

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01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 8: Does not sound familiar?

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01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 3: Wooh, okay, didn't make it up to seeger I guess

1328
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 3: I guess not. You know what those old guys, those

1329
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 3: old thirty year olds in the West living and gym

1330
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 3: were playing the wrong tunes for you.

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01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 1: That's right, that's what it was well. Listen.

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01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 3: I hope every uh, I hope everything that Santa that

1333
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 3: you've asked Santa for shows up underneath the tree, not

1334
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 3: only for yourself, but your family and your kids as well. Stephanie,

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Speaker 3: I certainly appreciate the time and safe travels. Look forward

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Speaker 3: to talking to you again soon.

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01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 11: All right.

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01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:39,440
Speaker 8: I appreciate a happy holidays.

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01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 3: All right, same to you, Stephanie White, joining us on

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Speaker 3: the program on the Java House Peeling poor guest line

1341
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 3: Jake twenty five is the code at Java House. Look

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01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 3: Nathaniels in their bubbetude.

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01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 1: It's good, isn't it.

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01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 4: Nathaniel never heard it before, but yeah.

1345
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 1: You've never heard this, no.

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01:08:57,880 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 11: Word.

1347
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 1: Let them know. It's Christmas time.

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01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 3: See you like it, don't you. Nathaniel's in there right now.

1349
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 3: He's got the headsets on. I mean, he looks like

1350
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,639
Speaker 3: Jimmy jam On Dance part of the USA in there.

1351
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:14,679
Speaker 4: Well, they give us his own little booth. I gotta

1352
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:15,480
Speaker 4: take advantage.

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01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 1: I can see Nathaniel.

1354
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 3: We're talking to each other through the head sets and

1355
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 3: getting after it a little bit there right. I think

1356
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 3: interesting stuff when talking about Caitlin Clark and the acclamation,

1357
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 3: the reacclamation and I know that sounds crazy. She's clearly

1358
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, she's probably right now. Asia Wilson

1359
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 3: would be right there, right, and they're a handful. It

1360
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 3: would be unfair to say that any one player is

1361
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:53,879
Speaker 3: the greatest basketball player in the world from a female standpoint,

1362
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:56,719
Speaker 3: because there are there's an upper crust there, for sure.

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01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:58,759
Speaker 1: But I thought last.

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01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 3: Year the Fever, what they were able to do when

1365
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 3: you looked at the attrition that they had and seemingly

1366
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:10,799
Speaker 3: just continuously putting in new player after new player, and

1367
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 3: the way that they just meshed and blended, And that

1368
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 3: does mean that you've got to come up with different schemes.

1369
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 3: It does mean that you have to play to different

1370
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 3: strengths for people. And they were able to do it,

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01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 3: and it was impressive. And then you get such a

1372
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 3: massive centerpiece. You know, it's kind of like when you

1373
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,640
Speaker 3: make the perfect cocktail and then all of us and

1374
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 3: it's right to the brim, and then you drop in

1375
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 3: the perfect the perfect celandercal ice cube, and you know

1376
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 3: some of that's going to splash over and you just

1377
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 3: don't know how it's going to impact the balance of

1378
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 3: the way the drink tastes. Once it all works together.

1379
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 3: You know that it's going to be better because it's

1380
01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 3: going to be colder and whatever else, but you just

1381
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 3: you don't know how it impacts the overall balance of

1382
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 3: the drink, and that, to me is going to be

1383
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:09,799
Speaker 3: an interesting thing to watch and to see. I asked

1384
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 3: yesterday Kurt this question. Nathaniel, I will ask you. We

1385
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 3: just talked to Stephanie about doing the Christmas tree. When

1386
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 3: you were a kid, what was the Christmas gift that

1387
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 3: you most recall looking back on and saying, of all

1388
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 3: the Christmases of my childhood, the gift that I most

1389
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 3: begged Santa to bring was what.

1390
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:34,640
Speaker 4: A Peyton Manning jersey? Broncos?

1391
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 1: Oh the Broncos variation.

1392
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 4: Huh Yeah, that's right.

1393
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 5: I kind of looking back on him, like, man, that

1394
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 5: was kind of a piece of crap, kid that I

1395
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 5: was begging.

1396
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 3: I've never felt more old than I have realizing that

1397
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 3: it would have been in your childhood that Peyton Manning

1398
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 3: was with the Broncos. I've never felt more old in

1399
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 3: my life.

1400
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 1: Right.

1401
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 5: The first football game I watched was the Colt Super Bowl,

1402
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 5: the second one, and that this first football game. Yeah,

1403
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 5: if that makes you feel old with twenty ten.

1404
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean that makes sense. That makes sense.

1405
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 3: The first Super Bowl that I remember watching, and I

1406
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 3: know that I watched others. The first one that I

1407
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 3: remember watching was the Rams and Steelers in seventy nine

1408
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 3: and Pasadena, the great Lynn Swan catch. I think I

1409
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 3: might have seen one of the Cowboys Steelers ones, but

1410
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:25,600
Speaker 3: I didn't.

1411
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 1: Really know what was going on, so to speak.

1412
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 3: I definitely recall Kenny King and the Raiders running over

1413
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 3: the Eagles in eighty and Ron Jaworska, I remember that

1414
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 3: very vividly. The first final four? What's the first Final

1415
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:38,839
Speaker 3: four that you recall watching?

1416
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 9: See?

1417
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,680
Speaker 5: I'm not you can point to any Final four and

1418
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 5: tell you the location.

1419
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 3: I don't know, well not, I mean over the in

1420
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:50,799
Speaker 3: the earth. Like, give me a year in the eighties.

1421
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 3: This is the thing that's weird about when you get older.

1422
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 3: Give me a year of the eighties or first half

1423
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 3: of the nineties.

1424
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:57,719
Speaker 1: Off the top of your head, go eighty nine.

1425
01:12:57,920 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 3: Nineteen eighty nine final four was that the Kingdom in

1426
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 3: Seattle that featured Seaton Hall, Illinois, Michigan and Duke and

1427
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 3: it was won by Rameil Robinson's two free throws after

1428
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 3: John Morton scored thirty five for Seaton Hall in the finals.

1429
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 3: It went into overtime, and I believe Michigan won eighty

1430
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 3: of seventy eight. I don't know if you have the

1431
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 3: score in front of you, but it was definitely Michigan,

1432
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 3: Seaton Hall, Illinois and Duke. However, I couldn't tell you

1433
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 3: three years ago. That's what's weird, you know.

1434
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 1: What I mean.

1435
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 3: In the eighty nine season, Indiana swept Michigan. They beat

1436
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 3: him twice. They beat him up in ann Arbor. I

1437
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 3: believe it was seventy six to seventy five, and then

1438
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:35,639
Speaker 3: they beat him seventy one, seventy up there seventy six

1439
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 3: seventy five in Bloomington with Jay Edwards shot and perdue.

1440
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 3: That year, Edwards hit a shot over Tony Jones in

1441
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 3: the bottom left corner to beat Purdue at home. And

1442
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 3: then that Prue had a good team, I mean they were,

1443
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 3: but that Indiana team came out of nowhere. That was

1444
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:54,680
Speaker 3: a miracle Indiana season. Did you happen to look up

1445
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 3: the eighty nine final four?

1446
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 4: I didn't.

1447
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 5: What I was looking up was the first one I've seen.

1448
01:13:58,360 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 5: I think it was twenty sixteen.

1449
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 3: Okay, see now again and nothing for you there twenty

1450
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 3: sixteen that would have been was Louisville in that was

1451
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 3: not Kentucky.

1452
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 4: No, A couple of the Blue Buds, Kansas not Kansas.

1453
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 1: See again, I mean, okay, this is.

1454
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 4: The Energy Stadium in Houston.

1455
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 1: Okay, who was oh so obviously dude or a Butler?

1456
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:22,559
Speaker 1: Right was not? Nope?

1457
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 3: Oh Butler went in? Was it eleven and twelve? See

1458
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 3: that's again. Yeah, once you start covering, it all runs together.

1459
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 5: The first one I remember was between Villanova and North

1460
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 5: Carolina and Villanova won that one.

1461
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 3: Oh that was the Chris Jenkins shot, right, that sounds right, yeah,

1462
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:40,600
Speaker 3: the last second shot. And what's funny is I was

1463
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 3: at that Final four in twenty sixteen, and I was there, Yeah,

1464
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 3: I mean I was at I went to from probably

1465
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna guess here, from like eight to sixteen or seventeen.

1466
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 1: I was at all of them. And it just after

1467
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:56,760
Speaker 1: a while, it becomes like vaporlock. It's a weird thing.

1468
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: It's very odd.

1469
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 3: But the first FI four that I recall watching was

1470
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 3: seventy nine Indiana Michigansta Indiana State Michigan Steak. Because I

1471
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 3: remember my dad saying to me like, we got to

1472
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 3: watch this team they're from Indiana and seeing Larry Bird

1473
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 3: with the towel over his head at the end of

1474
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 3: the game, and I'm like, did they not win? I

1475
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 3: was like, no, they didn't win. Ralph Freef going to

1476
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 3: join us at other side, speaking of Butler, he was

1477
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 3: on the call for a lot of those Butler games,

1478
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 3: No question about that athletic trainer.

1479
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 1: A lot to get to, a lot of injuries to

1480
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 1: ask about. We'll do it with Ralph Freef.

1481
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 9: Next.

1482
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 2: This is Querry in Company on ninety three five and

1483
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 2: one oh seventy five the fan.

1484
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 3: Absolutely gorgeous day outside, I'm telling you. And somebody posted

1485
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 3: to me on social media that they heard me mention

1486
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 3: this yesterday and it was female listener number thirty four,

1487
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 3: I believe because it was a female that said, hey,

1488
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 3: I heard you mentioned on the radio and I'm like, well,

1489
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 3: we're at thirty three.

1490
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 1: I think.

1491
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 3: Now we're officially at thirty four thirty four female listeners

1492
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:58,600
Speaker 3: of this program. Now you double that number and you

1493
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 3: get nearly what the four cast says it's going to be.

1494
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 3: I mentioned that for Christmas because I mentioned yesterday. I

1495
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:05,759
Speaker 3: think it was Christmas Eve, it's supposed to be sixty

1496
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:08,640
Speaker 3: one and they've dropped that down a little bit, but

1497
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 3: like mid fifties coming up for Christmas. But it is

1498
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 3: a gorgeous day out today, starting to warm up just

1499
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 3: a little bit. But there are injuries in sports to

1500
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 3: talk about it. That means we go to the Java

1501
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 3: House peeling poor guest line for our friend Ralph Reef

1502
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 3: Ralph Reef dot com, r E i f F dot com.

1503
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 3: And if you've listened to this program and you've heard Ralph,

1504
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 3: you know there's nobody better when it comes to explaining

1505
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 3: the training and just the overall health when it comes

1506
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 3: to athletes. And he joins me. Now, Ralph, a couple

1507
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 3: of them to get to. And first off, let me

1508
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 3: begin simply by saying the happiest of holidays to you.

1509
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 10: Well, thank you very much, Jake. I appreciate that, looking

1510
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 10: forward to it, and we're right upon it.

1511
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, all right, let's begin with this, and we're

1512
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 3: going to go outside of market with the injury to

1513
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:02,560
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes. And the reason I mentioned it because I

1514
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:04,640
Speaker 3: think you look at the Colts for next year and

1515
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 3: you're saying, okay, I shouldn't you know the cults are

1516
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 3: still alive for this year.

1517
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 1: I get it.

1518
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 3: But if you look at next year, you start thinking

1519
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 3: about who in the AFC or contenders, and you wonder

1520
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 3: about the availability of Patrick Mahomes. I saw this ralph

1521
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 3: ACL injury. You know we always hear ACL. I thought

1522
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 3: I saw an acronym with which I'm not familiar in

1523
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 3: the knee. And you tell me if I misread it

1524
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:28,720
Speaker 3: the LCL. I don't know that I've heard of that

1525
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 3: one before. Did I read that correctly?

1526
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 10: Jake? You read it correctly, and it's the lateral collateral ligment.

1527
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 10: So it's if you rub the outside of your knee joint,

1528
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:46,640
Speaker 10: that's the general area of the LCL. Typically, in an

1529
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 10: anti air cruciate ligament injury, you will get either an

1530
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 10: isolated tear of the in other words, nothing else is

1531
01:17:55,560 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 10: wrong except that ligament is torn. But you don't know

1532
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 10: the percentages off the.

1533
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:03,599
Speaker 8: Top of my head.

1534
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 10: But the medial collateral ligament is quite often injured with

1535
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 10: an ACL tear, and sometimes you'll get a little moniscus

1536
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 10: injury and maybe a bone bruise. But to get the

1537
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 10: LCL involved is a little less common, and it adds

1538
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 10: some complexity to the return to play.

1539
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 1: Okay, and that of those two ralph ACL LCL, for example,

1540
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 1: is there one of those ligaments that is more stubborn

1541
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 1: than the other. Does that make.

1542
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 10: Sense stubborn in terms.

1543
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 1: Of timeline of repair.

1544
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 10: Oh, well, according to all the reports and so forth,

1545
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:53,720
Speaker 10: they did actually repair the lateral collateral ligment along with

1546
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 10: a repair of the anti kate ligament. They did the

1547
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 10: procedures to gain the stability to the knee, and with

1548
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:08,679
Speaker 10: the lateral collateral ligament, not saying that one is more

1549
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 10: unique than the other. The ACL carries much more load

1550
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 10: front to back. So if you stop in a going

1551
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 10: forward and you go into reverse, your ACL is really

1552
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 10: involved in that motion when you're rotating or you're running

1553
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:31,600
Speaker 10: in a circle, if you will, And that ligament on

1554
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 10: the outside is where a lot of stress comes. And

1555
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:40,560
Speaker 10: so it adds the complexity to it from the standpoint

1556
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:43,600
Speaker 10: that not only will the ACL need to repair and

1557
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 10: he'll need to get that motion back, but one of

1558
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 10: his greatest traits as an athlete is his ability to

1559
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 10: be mobile and to get out of peculiar situations on

1560
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 10: the field, being partially tackled and rotating out of it.

1561
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 10: So as a matter of fact, his longtime strength coach

1562
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:09,679
Speaker 10: Bob Stoops, who managed him in Texas and then moved

1563
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,639
Speaker 10: to Kansas City with him, is well known for his

1564
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 10: ability to train athletes like that. So this will be

1565
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:18,759
Speaker 10: a real test to get Mahomes back to the homes

1566
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 10: that we've known with all of his various abilities to

1567
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 10: get out of tough situations.

1568
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:30,720
Speaker 3: Ralph, is there a and I know that everybody is different, right,

1569
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 3: every human is different, But for the most part, in

1570
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:36,639
Speaker 3: your experience and your vast experience as an athletic trainer,

1571
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 3: is there an age that more often than not, you

1572
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 3: from a training standpoint look at and say, gosh. And

1573
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 3: I'm not saying Patrick Mahomes case, okay, just generically speaking,

1574
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 3: that you look at and you say, once a guy

1575
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:52,559
Speaker 3: or a gal reaches that age, then it's kind of

1576
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 3: like having one hundred thousand miles on the car where

1577
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 3: things just are different than they were prior. Is there

1578
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 3: like a magic age that is the age of the

1579
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 3: Mendoza line?

1580
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 1: From a training standpoint, I don't.

1581
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 10: Think we've found that, Jake, and I think you know

1582
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 10: all the recent news from downhill skiing to quarterbacks in

1583
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 10: the NFL that line is raising into a higher age bracket.

1584
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 10: And you know, so what Lindsey Vonn has done to

1585
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 10: come back from multiple knee surgeries, some parts of her

1586
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 10: knee being replaced and being able to do what she's

1587
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:39,440
Speaker 10: doing at age forty one and is remarkable by old standards.

1588
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 10: And so I think that we're we're more forgiving as

1589
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:50,839
Speaker 10: a sports society to allow age not to be a factor.

1590
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 10: Lebron James has certainly done that. You look at across

1591
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 10: Major League Baseball and people standing on that pitching mound

1592
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,679
Speaker 10: that have done amazing things that at what we would

1593
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 10: refer to his old age. So I think that line,

1594
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 10: whatever it is, is rising, if you will, into an

1595
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:09,599
Speaker 10: old older age bracket.

1596
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 3: Jake Okay, Bernard Ryman has and all we know is

1597
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:15,600
Speaker 3: that it is an elbow injury. Now you know, we

1598
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 3: all hit our funny bones, so to speak. But he

1599
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 3: had it bandaged. It's a little bit perhaps more elusive

1600
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 3: to the weekend warrior like me, but as somebody with

1601
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:26,599
Speaker 3: more of a trained die And I know you don't

1602
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 3: work specifically with Ryman, but typically that would mean perhaps

1603
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:34,720
Speaker 3: what and how problematic an area My.

1604
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 10: Sense is with this situation, again, there's there's not a

1605
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 10: lot specific to this injury, but if we were to

1606
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 10: be generic about elbow injuries in linemen, he's probably had

1607
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 10: some soft tissue injury. Again to the UCL A lot

1608
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 10: of acronyms here the owner collateral ligament which acts like

1609
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:02,799
Speaker 10: the lateral collateral and the media flateral in the knee.

1610
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 10: So if you think about the elbow as a little

1611
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 10: bit of a resemblance the knee joint, you'd be pretty accurate.

1612
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:12,799
Speaker 10: And so my guess is that he's got a Tommy

1613
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 10: John type of stretched to the ulner collateral ligament and

1614
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:24,520
Speaker 10: that really deteriorates the stability of the elbows to work correctly.

1615
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 10: And so what does that mean. That means that to

1616
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:32,719
Speaker 10: extend and push off, so to grab and pull towards you.

1617
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 10: So those kinds of things are are very very limited.

1618
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:42,600
Speaker 10: You can be braced up, you can be really stabilized,

1619
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 10: but you're real limited in your ability to use that

1620
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 10: arm the way you want. And then, as we've seen

1621
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 10: with other injuries, then you have compensation kind of issues

1622
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 10: that you worry about around the wrist and also more

1623
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 10: particularly up around the shoulder joint.

1624
01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 3: When you look Ralph at the forest buckner coming back

1625
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 3: Ralphreef is my guest Joba House Peel and poor guest

1626
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 3: line Ralph Reef dot com, r e i f f

1627
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 3: dot com where you.

1628
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 1: Can see Ralph's work. Also see where he continues to

1629
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 1: work in terms of whether it be speaking engagements or

1630
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:17,720
Speaker 1: working in the training aspects of today that's got him

1631
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:18,559
Speaker 1: going all over the world.

1632
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:21,639
Speaker 3: But Ralph, when you look at DeForest Buckner and coming off,

1633
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 3: we know that we talked about and you did a

1634
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 3: great job explaining stem cells and the neck injury that

1635
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:29,480
Speaker 3: he had. Once a guy is cleared from the situation

1636
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 3: that he has had, do you have to bubble wrap

1637
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 3: it a little bit or do you not put him

1638
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 3: out there until he's good to go? Will there be

1639
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:37,639
Speaker 3: any impediment to his range of motion?

1640
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 10: So range of motion won't be should not be an issue.

1641
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 10: The biggest issue would be around his strength of the

1642
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 10: affected limb, So more than likely he had one side

1643
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:59,679
Speaker 10: of his upper extremities that was affected by this well

1644
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 10: dot com um ended disc in the cervical vertebrae that

1645
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 10: was damaged in some manner. Therefore, it started to swell

1646
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:12,639
Speaker 10: and it put pressure on the nerves that run into

1647
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 10: the upper shoulder the back and into the arm. And

1648
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:25,800
Speaker 10: so we know Weekend Warrior NFL player, when you have

1649
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 10: a nerve impingement or a nerve injury to where it's

1650
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 10: not fully functioning due to it's so like a water

1651
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 10: hose in the you know, beside your house, and that's

1652
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 10: running and you step on it and therefore not as

1653
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 10: much water runs through the water hose. And that's the

1654
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:50,840
Speaker 10: same thing with the nerve. And so we know that

1655
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 10: within twelve to fourteen days muscles deteriorate in strength of

1656
01:25:56,479 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 10: the forty percent. So his big issue coming back will

1657
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 10: be strength and endurance. And therefore then the third thing

1658
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 10: would be pain because that nerve can create some pain

1659
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:13,559
Speaker 10: into the arm, into the tricept and so forth. So

1660
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 10: I think the biggest issue is does he have the

1661
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:20,600
Speaker 10: strength to play his position at the level that we

1662
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:21,599
Speaker 10: know him to play.

1663
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 1: Ralph.

1664
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 3: Lastly, because you're always a good sport and you know,

1665
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 3: we've moved into a new building that we have some

1666
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 3: wires that are kind of like nerves, right, like you

1667
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 3: step on them wrong, and you know, things just kind

1668
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:34,679
Speaker 3: of missfine. So so occasionally and periodically, when we're talking

1669
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 3: to people, their voice gets a little elevated and pitched.

1670
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:39,680
Speaker 3: They sound a little a little like maybe they're in

1671
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 3: the Wizard of Oz and you're a good sport. Can

1672
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 3: we get you real quick just to say for me,

1673
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:46,840
Speaker 3: if you could, we represent the Lollipop Guild. Can I

1674
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 3: just get you real quick to say that on the

1675
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 3: air we represent the Lollipop Guild.

1676
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 10: We represent the Lollipop Guild.

1677
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:00,759
Speaker 3: That is not really what Ralph sounds like. I obviously, folks.

1678
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 3: We just have a wire. We got to get some

1679
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 3: stem cells in one of the wires for our system here, Ralph,

1680
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 3: I appreciate it. It is great information. Even if it sounds

1681
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 3: a little helium helium induced. It is great information and

1682
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 3: always appreciated. If we don't talk to you, certainly wish

1683
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 3: you the very best of the holiday season. I think

1684
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 3: we'll probably talk before then, but if we don't, certainly

1685
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 3: wanted to get that covered as well.

1686
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 10: Okay, thank you very much, the same to everyone there

1687
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 10: within in the station.

1688
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 3: Ralph reef joining us on the Java House feeling poor

1689
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 3: guest line and doing so from the Lollipop Guild. By

1690
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 3: the way, it is, it's a fascinating deal. Right, all

1691
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 3: of a sudden, that wire gets touched on, and then

1692
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 3: all this there were up and running. There is news

1693
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:42,679
Speaker 3: for Indiana University football, and it's not just about Kurt

1694
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 3: Signetti being the two time now AP Coach of the Year,

1695
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 3: but rather there is news for Indiana at the quarterback position.

1696
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 1: And it's not entirely good news. I'll explain next.

1697
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 2: This is Querry in Company at least three five and

1698
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:02,559
Speaker 2: one oh seven five the Fan.

1699
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 3: I can't even begin to explain how big this song

1700
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 3: was when it came out my senior in high school

1701
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 3: and Nathaniel don't call me Atticus Finch. Literally he was

1702
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 3: Jimmy jamb from the USA Network's Dance Part of USA earlier.

1703
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 3: And now you're over there, you look like DJ skids,

1704
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 3: like you're kind of doing the bob back.

1705
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 4: And forth JMV on a Saturday night.

1706
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:26,559
Speaker 1: You're getting into you J and V on a Saturday night.

1707
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 3: Except for that, if JV was doing that on a

1708
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 3: Saturday night, you'd be able to hear it all the

1709
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:30,960
Speaker 3: way up to about twelfth Street.

1710
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 1: Right he turned.

1711
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 3: You get off the elevators and the floor and like, WHOA,

1712
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 3: JV's got a bumping in there, right.

1713
01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 4: It on our old fifth floor. We could hear it

1714
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 4: from the fourth floor.

1715
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:43,599
Speaker 3: Heck yeah, uh, Indiana football news obviously, the Hoosiers getting

1716
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 3: set for the Rose Bowl in Pasadena, and the tickets.

1717
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 3: I've got several friends that got the notification their tickets

1718
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 3: are good to go.

1719
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 1: They're on their way.

1720
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 3: It is exciting, it's awesome, no question about any of that,

1721
01:28:55,840 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 3: no question about any of that. And the whoever the

1722
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:08,200
Speaker 3: funk it? Right, although again I think this year when

1723
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 3: they came back and were able to get that win

1724
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 3: at Iowa, when they were down and it looked like

1725
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:21,559
Speaker 3: they were dead to rights and then all of a

1726
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:25,519
Speaker 3: sudden you see that play to surat that touchdown. Right

1727
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 3: there is where I said to myself, you know what,

1728
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:35,679
Speaker 3: there's something about this group, something about them, And this

1729
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 3: is the reality. You saw the sixty minute story of

1730
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:48,880
Speaker 3: Indiana and their pledge now to football more so than basketball. Understandably,

1731
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:51,799
Speaker 3: I mean apples and orange just to a great extent,

1732
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:58,040
Speaker 3: but same athletic department obviously. But when you look at

1733
01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:02,600
Speaker 3: the transfer portal and you keep an eye on and

1734
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:08,879
Speaker 3: I don't know every player, you know, you'll hear about

1735
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:14,920
Speaker 3: a four star right guard from Texas Tech in the

1736
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 3: portal looking at Boise State. Okay, I just saw yesterday

1737
01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 3: some player that is getting apparently is looking to transfer,

1738
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 3: getting a medical red shirt and an extra year of

1739
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:35,599
Speaker 3: eligibility and will be at his seventh school. Okay, I

1740
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:38,799
Speaker 3: told you the Jake Querry idea. Go to the school

1741
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:41,880
Speaker 3: that gives you the most your freshman year, threaten the

1742
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:44,479
Speaker 3: portal for your sophomore year, get more money out of them.

1743
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 3: Junior year, go to the highest bidder. Senior year, go

1744
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:53,240
Speaker 3: to like Stanford, Duke, Harvard or Yale and say, instead

1745
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:54,599
Speaker 3: of paying me, you're going to take all my credits.

1746
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:56,439
Speaker 3: I'm going to graduate from your school. And I know

1747
01:30:56,479 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 3: that people are like, there's no way you could do that. Okay,

1748
01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:05,240
Speaker 3: but here's the news from Indiana football. At the quarterback spot.

1749
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 3: Drew Mestimaker, who is one of the best passers in

1750
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:13,120
Speaker 3: the nation North Texas averages three hundred and eighteen passing

1751
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 3: yards per game, entered his name into the transfer portal

1752
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 3: and Indiana was a school that apparently he had interest. However,

1753
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 3: multiple reports and I went ahead and checked it to

1754
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 3: make sure that it wasn't just there are multiple people

1755
01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 3: now saying not specifically this amount, but that at this

1756
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 3: point mess to maker is moving on from talks with

1757
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:44,000
Speaker 3: or exploration of Indiana, and I have no idea like

1758
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:45,960
Speaker 3: when they're allowed to talk to players, whether that means

1759
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:48,960
Speaker 3: he talked directly or his representatives did whatever. He is

1760
01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:53,680
Speaker 3: apparently looking for three point five million dollars, and I

1761
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 3: think Indiana was willing to pay. I don't know this,

1762
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:59,639
Speaker 3: but I think Indiana is willing to pay. You know, Mendoza,

1763
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:04,759
Speaker 3: I believe, if you believe all reports two million. Sam

1764
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:07,720
Speaker 3: Levitt is the quarterback at Arizona State that's also in

1765
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 3: the portal and one of the more coveted transfer portal quarterbacks,

1766
01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:17,440
Speaker 3: and he is apparently rumored to be in a finality

1767
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:18,120
Speaker 3: with Indiana.

1768
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:20,400
Speaker 1: Yes, Nathaniel, I.

1769
01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:21,720
Speaker 4: Was just putting my finger up to say you have

1770
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 4: one minute.

1771
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 3: Ah, I thought you were saying, but let me make

1772
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:28,479
Speaker 3: a point, right, let me make a point here. No so,

1773
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:33,960
Speaker 3: and thank you. Levitt is one. Now you have Alberta

1774
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:37,840
Speaker 3: Mendoza there as well, you know, and Kurt Signetti. Though

1775
01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:40,760
Speaker 3: I told this story and this is why Indiana is

1776
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:45,760
Speaker 3: where they are. I know someone that was meeting with

1777
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:49,599
Speaker 3: Scott Dolson, the athletic director at Indiana, and then they're

1778
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:52,240
Speaker 3: meeting with Scott Dolson. Kurt Signetti walked in and handed

1779
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:55,000
Speaker 3: Scott Dolson a sheet of paper and Scott Dolson said,

1780
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 3: what's this And he said that's what you asked for

1781
01:32:56,439 --> 01:33:02,519
Speaker 3: this morning and Dolson said oh, and Signetti walked out

1782
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:04,880
Speaker 3: and Dolson told my friend, I thought this was going

1783
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:06,599
Speaker 3: to take like three weeks or a month. I asked

1784
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:09,000
Speaker 3: him about this at eight thirty this morning, and here

1785
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:11,240
Speaker 3: it is like ten forty five and he's already got

1786
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:13,960
Speaker 3: a sheet from me. And Dolson had asked for a

1787
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:17,880
Speaker 3: list of Indiana's fifty top targets and the transfer portal

1788
01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:21,120
Speaker 3: and an estimation as to what nil cost would be

1789
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:24,680
Speaker 3: for each, and Signetti was able to submit that to

1790
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:28,000
Speaker 3: his boss within two hours because he already had it prepared,

1791
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:33,160
Speaker 3: thinking ahead of the curve and knowing that it wasn't

1792
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:35,880
Speaker 3: raining when Noah built the arc. That's why you're a

1793
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:41,160
Speaker 3: two time National Coach of the Year. Joela ericson next query.

1794
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:43,400
Speaker 2: In Company on ninety three five and one oh seven

1795
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:44,320
Speaker 2: five the fan.

1796
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:49,880
Speaker 3: This sounds like the London Philharmonic version of this song

1797
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 3: or something.

1798
01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:54,840
Speaker 1: It's just like just the brass and wood wings version.

1799
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:57,960
Speaker 4: Now this is the eighty nine through five version.

1800
01:33:58,120 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 1: Is it really? It seems high and pitchy.

1801
01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:04,519
Speaker 4: Maybe it's just one of those loose wires we're dealing with.

1802
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:07,639
Speaker 3: I'm going to say, can we get it to say?

1803
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 1: Follow the yelbrick road? Did you hapen to get a

1804
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:12,760
Speaker 1: hold of Joela ericson my chance?

1805
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:13,240
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1806
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 3: Joel Erickson is, of course the Colt speed writer for

1807
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:18,880
Speaker 3: the Indianapolis Star. He joins us on the Java House

1808
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 3: Peel and Poor Guest line. Java House Jake twenty five

1809
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:24,360
Speaker 3: is the discount code twenty five percent off all of

1810
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:27,200
Speaker 3: your peel and Port beverages, including the Wrangler Energy, the

1811
01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:30,880
Speaker 3: Liquid Science Hydration, and as well the Colombian Coffee, which

1812
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:34,720
Speaker 3: I particularly love. Let's get right to this, Joel. From

1813
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:39,120
Speaker 3: an injury standpoint, Bernard Ryman, I will begin with that

1814
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:42,080
Speaker 3: elbow is all I know, and we all have two

1815
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:44,800
Speaker 3: of them. Where do things stand with Bernard Ryman? And

1816
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:47,040
Speaker 3: do we know any more specifically what may be wrong?

1817
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:50,000
Speaker 11: No, we don't know anything more specifically.

1818
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:52,680
Speaker 1: We're kind of on.

1819
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 11: A weird week here where this is Wednesday, and normally

1820
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:59,360
Speaker 11: we should have updated information, but for the Colts it's

1821
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:02,720
Speaker 11: technically two today since they're playing on Monday. So this

1822
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:05,280
Speaker 11: is one of those weird ones where every day kind

1823
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:08,519
Speaker 11: of feels a little bit off because you're doing stuff.

1824
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 11: You're doing stuff a day late. But the last I

1825
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 11: saw of Ryman he walking out of the locker room

1826
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 11: and using only his left hand but to carry stuff.

1827
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:21,080
Speaker 11: Everything like that, as you'd expect after suffering an elbow injury.

1828
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:24,880
Speaker 11: But Shane's ikond didn't rule him out. So we'll just

1829
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 11: kind of see how things go when they get into

1830
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 11: practice tomorrow.

1831
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:30,439
Speaker 3: Joe, I thought you asked, and I believe it was

1832
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 3: you that asked the question, And I want to get

1833
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:37,400
Speaker 3: into this the I totally understand it. You know, the

1834
01:35:37,439 --> 01:35:40,639
Speaker 3: Philip Rivers and you know Anthony Richardson now being back,

1835
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:44,800
Speaker 3: I'm confused by this, and I want you to paraphrase

1836
01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:47,439
Speaker 3: for folks, how exactly did you ask the question to

1837
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:51,640
Speaker 3: Shane Stike and regarding Anthony Richardson and his availability or

1838
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:52,400
Speaker 3: lack thereof.

1839
01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:56,559
Speaker 1: I believe I.

1840
01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:58,639
Speaker 11: Said something along the lines of, you know, for those

1841
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:03,160
Speaker 11: of us who don't know what's what's what makes it

1842
01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:07,240
Speaker 11: the difference between you know, Anthony Richardson not really playing

1843
01:36:07,240 --> 01:36:10,760
Speaker 11: football for two months versus Philip Rivers not playing for

1844
01:36:11,320 --> 01:36:13,200
Speaker 11: four and a half or five years, and really he said,

1845
01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 11: it just comes down to the fact that Richardson is

1846
01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:19,280
Speaker 11: coming off of injury. My understanding is he's clear to

1847
01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:22,719
Speaker 11: do physical activity, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's ready

1848
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:26,839
Speaker 11: to practice that kind of thing. Obviously a very serious

1849
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:31,360
Speaker 11: eye injury. But yeah, that's that's kind of that's kind

1850
01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:33,400
Speaker 11: of what we're I was trying to get at was just,

1851
01:36:34,479 --> 01:36:37,320
Speaker 11: you know, obviously two months off is not the same

1852
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:40,080
Speaker 11: as five years off. But you know, Shane Stikeen was

1853
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:41,920
Speaker 11: like the difference of the fact that that Richardson was.

1854
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:45,479
Speaker 3: Injured what I found peculiar. And I want you, Joel,

1855
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:47,680
Speaker 3: you were there, okay, I want you to tell me

1856
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:51,600
Speaker 3: if I'm wrong in this. To me, it would have

1857
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:55,400
Speaker 3: been very easy for Shane steike And to simply say, look,

1858
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:58,120
Speaker 3: every injury is different, and while he has been cleared

1859
01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:01,240
Speaker 3: to practice, we still have to be very cautious because

1860
01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:05,600
Speaker 3: it was an orbital bone of full contact and so

1861
01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:07,800
Speaker 3: we will temper that as it goes. I think people

1862
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 3: go okay, But when he repeatedly kept saying, like, you know,

1863
01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:14,479
Speaker 3: physical activity or I can't remember the exact wording that

1864
01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:17,679
Speaker 3: he used, but basically insinuating he's got to get back

1865
01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:21,880
Speaker 3: into football shape. And I'm thinking, yeah, but you're comparing

1866
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:23,799
Speaker 3: it to a guy that's twenty years older and hasn't

1867
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:27,360
Speaker 3: played literally in a half a decade. To me, what

1868
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:29,120
Speaker 3: I'm getting at is this, and I want you to

1869
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:29,960
Speaker 3: tell me I'm wrong.

1870
01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:30,920
Speaker 1: You were there.

1871
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:34,200
Speaker 3: It sounded to me like Shane Steichen was basically coming

1872
01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:38,240
Speaker 3: up with any reason he could to essentially say, because

1873
01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:40,880
Speaker 3: I'm done with the guy. I don't dislike him as

1874
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:42,839
Speaker 3: a person. I don't want to dislike him as a player.

1875
01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 3: I just distrust him as a quarterback and I'm going

1876
01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:46,679
Speaker 3: to go elsewhere. That's what I heard.

1877
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:52,599
Speaker 11: My understanding is that there are physical, you know issues.

1878
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:56,679
Speaker 11: I agree with you generally the answer you laid out.

1879
01:37:58,040 --> 01:37:59,519
Speaker 11: It does feel like it would be easy see that.

1880
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:01,880
Speaker 11: I mean, I think three years, isn't that we know

1881
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:06,280
Speaker 11: that wegen We don't always get an explanation quite like

1882
01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:07,000
Speaker 11: that from Shane.

1883
01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:11,280
Speaker 3: By the way, Joel, this is you know, it's a

1884
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:15,840
Speaker 3: wonderful time of year, right, you know. I mean Andy

1885
01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:17,920
Speaker 3: Williams said it's the most wonderful time of the year.

1886
01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:20,840
Speaker 3: And in one of the things that's fun about it.

1887
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:24,960
Speaker 3: You know, you have kids, and you know, you wake

1888
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:27,280
Speaker 3: up here in a little over a week or whatever

1889
01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:29,320
Speaker 3: it might be, and there's gifts under the tree and

1890
01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:32,400
Speaker 3: it's fun, right, and there's you know, stuff hanging in

1891
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:37,320
Speaker 3: this from the fireplace and oranges in it and candy

1892
01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:39,960
Speaker 3: in it and the whole deal. I'm just curious. It's

1893
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:44,000
Speaker 3: my understanding. It's my understanding. Did you happen to get

1894
01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:47,600
Speaker 3: any sort of a porch visit in the middle of

1895
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:48,719
Speaker 3: the night of late.

1896
01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:55,639
Speaker 11: The Beer Fairy? Yeah, like one of the Beer Fairy's

1897
01:38:55,720 --> 01:39:00,920
Speaker 11: best runs ever, I think, really yes, Well, you know,

1898
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:03,120
Speaker 11: you know, I don't know if the listeners know this,

1899
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:05,439
Speaker 11: that the Beer Fery has ways of sort of making

1900
01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:09,880
Speaker 11: requests for wondering whether or not, you know, if they

1901
01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:13,080
Speaker 11: if I'm craving anything. And sometimes it stuff's out and

1902
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 11: sometimes it's not. But I got exactly I got exactly

1903
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:17,400
Speaker 11: what I asked for on my list.

1904
01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:21,760
Speaker 1: Listen, the Beer Faery. The Beer Fairy is, I know.

1905
01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:23,760
Speaker 3: And for those that don't know, the Beer Faery is,

1906
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:27,920
Speaker 3: and I actually I've never actually divulged.

1907
01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:29,439
Speaker 1: This, but I will, Joel, I'll tell you this real quick.

1908
01:39:29,479 --> 01:39:29,880
Speaker 1: You're ready.

1909
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:34,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, many moons ago I was but a younger lad

1910
01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:37,920
Speaker 3: and I was I was living in Saint Louis. Actually okay,

1911
01:39:37,960 --> 01:39:41,880
Speaker 3: true story, And my car got stolen in Saint Louis,

1912
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:45,479
Speaker 3: also a true story. And because my car was stolen,

1913
01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:48,400
Speaker 3: and during the time between when my car was stolen

1914
01:39:48,439 --> 01:39:51,679
Speaker 3: and when I could get a new car, I took

1915
01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:55,280
Speaker 3: public transportation, no problem, right. And I was one day

1916
01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:57,439
Speaker 3: on the King's Highway late at night, late at night.

1917
01:39:57,479 --> 01:40:00,759
Speaker 3: The only light illuminating the interior of this old bus

1918
01:40:00,760 --> 01:40:02,600
Speaker 3: that I was riding was that of one of the

1919
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:06,320
Speaker 3: Greasy spoon diners there on King's Highway in Saint Louis.

1920
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:09,880
Speaker 3: And through the flicker of the Greasy Spoon diner, I

1921
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:13,320
Speaker 3: could see within the bus the glistening of some sort

1922
01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:17,000
Speaker 3: of almost like a like a dust. And I heard

1923
01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:19,680
Speaker 3: but of a whimper, and I realized it was the

1924
01:40:19,720 --> 01:40:22,000
Speaker 3: Beer Faery. Beer Fery was making a run now in

1925
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:23,840
Speaker 3: Saint Louis. The beer Fairy has a bit of a

1926
01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:27,320
Speaker 3: monopoly because Aneser Bush runs everything, right, so not a

1927
01:40:27,320 --> 01:40:29,439
Speaker 3: hard gig for the beer Faery. So the beer Faery

1928
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:32,360
Speaker 3: was telling me how, because everybody in Saint Louis already

1929
01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:35,439
Speaker 3: has Anheuser Busch stuff not a lot of use or

1930
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:38,200
Speaker 3: work for the beer faery. So we became friends, and

1931
01:40:38,240 --> 01:40:41,800
Speaker 3: the beer fery occasionally will ask me if I know

1932
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:44,920
Speaker 3: of people that may need help from the beer faery,

1933
01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:48,639
Speaker 3: and so I have facilitated those conversations. And the beer

1934
01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:52,160
Speaker 3: faery is very eager to please. And so I asked

1935
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:54,360
Speaker 3: you on the air if there was anything you like,

1936
01:40:54,760 --> 01:40:56,640
Speaker 3: and I think and I passed it along to the

1937
01:40:56,680 --> 01:41:00,000
Speaker 3: beer faery. My understanding is the beer faery works very,

1938
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:01,360
Speaker 3: very hard to accommodate.

1939
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:06,600
Speaker 11: I just just an incredible, an incredible run, you know,

1940
01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:11,959
Speaker 11: and you will enjoy this as well. I am planning

1941
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:17,439
Speaker 11: to sit down and sample the tail wagger amber that

1942
01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:22,200
Speaker 11: came as I continue to read John U. Bacon's latest book,

1943
01:41:22,240 --> 01:41:23,960
Speaker 11: you know what it is? I noticed to the topic

1944
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:24,920
Speaker 11: that they interest you as.

1945
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:30,040
Speaker 1: Well, John You Bacon's latest book, You know I and

1946
01:41:30,160 --> 01:41:32,840
Speaker 1: I did read a book from Johnya Cheddar which is

1947
01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:35,200
Speaker 1: from the same category as Johnny Bacon's, but I don't

1948
01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:37,120
Speaker 1: know the book of which he speaks, So go ahead.

1949
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:39,120
Speaker 8: The Gales of November.

1950
01:41:39,320 --> 01:41:41,840
Speaker 3: Oh hell yeah, I should have known this, yes, and

1951
01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:44,439
Speaker 3: I got I got news for you. It leaves you

1952
01:41:44,479 --> 01:41:46,320
Speaker 3: with a sinking feeling. Just so you know, I do

1953
01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:49,200
Speaker 3: know how the book ends. Uh, this is the Tale

1954
01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:50,440
Speaker 3: of the Edmund Fitzgerald.

1955
01:41:50,439 --> 01:41:54,519
Speaker 1: Correct, this is the Tale of the Edmund Fitzgerald. Yes, Joel,

1956
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:56,920
Speaker 1: I have already had anniversary. Listen.

1957
01:41:56,920 --> 01:42:00,559
Speaker 3: I've always had beef with Gordon Lightfoot, Okay, because Gordon

1958
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 3: Lightfoot in his song saying it says and the record

1959
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:08,160
Speaker 3: of the Edvan Fitzgerald, he says, the church bell chimed.

1960
01:42:08,160 --> 01:42:10,880
Speaker 3: It chimed twenty nine times for each man on the

1961
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:13,800
Speaker 3: Edmon Fitzgerald. And I've always had beef with that because

1962
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:18,160
Speaker 3: it actually chimed twenty nine times, once for each man

1963
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:21,120
Speaker 3: on the ined mif Fitzgerald. The way that he does

1964
01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:24,000
Speaker 3: it indicates that it's twenty nine per person, right, and

1965
01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:27,240
Speaker 3: twenty nine times twenty nine would be what some eight

1966
01:42:27,320 --> 01:42:29,400
Speaker 3: hundred and forty two something like that. It didn't chime

1967
01:42:29,479 --> 01:42:29,960
Speaker 3: that many.

1968
01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:35,120
Speaker 1: Times, just chiming. Yeah, that's right, Gordon. That's an excellent point, Gordon.

1969
01:42:35,120 --> 01:42:36,360
Speaker 1: A little sloppy by the way.

1970
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:42,000
Speaker 3: Gordon Lightfoot also wrote Sundown about the woman that was

1971
01:42:42,040 --> 01:42:44,080
Speaker 3: his mistress at the time, who later went on to

1972
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:45,960
Speaker 3: become the mistress that was with John Beluci on the

1973
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:46,479
Speaker 3: night he died.

1974
01:42:46,479 --> 01:42:49,080
Speaker 1: But that's a different talk show. But I'm glad.

1975
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:51,600
Speaker 3: I'm glad you're going to enjoy your beer while you

1976
01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:54,240
Speaker 3: read your book, and the beer fairy is happy to

1977
01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:56,720
Speaker 3: know that the beer fairy had a good delivery. Now,

1978
01:42:56,760 --> 01:42:58,960
Speaker 3: let's get back to this in terms of delivery for

1979
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:01,479
Speaker 3: the Colts, do you feel Philip Rivers delivered and do

1980
01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:03,960
Speaker 3: you think Shane Steiken delivered the right game plan for him?

1981
01:43:05,040 --> 01:43:07,439
Speaker 1: It was the right game plan for that game.

1982
01:43:08,040 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 11: Rivers executed honestly better than I thought he would in

1983
01:43:12,280 --> 01:43:16,599
Speaker 11: terms of how many passes he completed for that game.

1984
01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:19,200
Speaker 11: Like I said, it's it's the right one because that's

1985
01:43:19,479 --> 01:43:22,000
Speaker 11: that defense picks off a lot of passes. They sacked

1986
01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:26,800
Speaker 11: quarterback a lot. Ultimately, though, it ended up to me

1987
01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 11: just sort of highlighting how the predicament the Colts are

1988
01:43:31,040 --> 01:43:33,840
Speaker 11: in without Daniel Jones as the starting quarterback, because if

1989
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:37,160
Speaker 11: you have to run that sort of game plan where

1990
01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:40,920
Speaker 11: you need just you need everything to go just perfectly,

1991
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:44,680
Speaker 11: it's it's just not a way to make the it's

1992
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:47,120
Speaker 11: not a way to make the playoffs. But here's the thing,

1993
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:50,040
Speaker 11: Like when you're down to your number three quarterback and

1994
01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:55,640
Speaker 11: you're calling in Philip Rivers from you know, Fairhope, Alabama

1995
01:43:56,160 --> 01:43:56,640
Speaker 11: to do it.

1996
01:43:56,760 --> 01:43:58,880
Speaker 8: That's that's kind of the spot you're in.

1997
01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:02,479
Speaker 11: And and that would be true if it was Riley Leonard.

1998
01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:05,280
Speaker 11: That would be true if it was smelling air. Just

1999
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:07,519
Speaker 11: whenever you get to your number three option at quarterback

2000
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:09,120
Speaker 11: at the NFL, you're at a bad spot.

2001
01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:13,320
Speaker 3: If they Okay, and I don't know this answer, Joel.

2002
01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:16,560
Speaker 3: If the Colts were to lose Monday Night to San Francisco,

2003
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:18,080
Speaker 3: not saying that's going to happen, but if they were

2004
01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:20,960
Speaker 3: to lose Monday Night to San Francisco, in other words,

2005
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:25,080
Speaker 3: there is no chance they are eliminated from the postseason mathematically.

2006
01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:28,280
Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, they would not. The latest

2007
01:44:28,439 --> 01:44:32,000
Speaker 3: game in which they would be eliminated would be going

2008
01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:33,639
Speaker 3: into Week seventeen.

2009
01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:37,760
Speaker 1: Am I correct? I think so? I think so.

2010
01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:40,800
Speaker 3: So that gives them because the reason I ask, if

2011
01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:43,680
Speaker 3: they are eliminated from the postseason, do we assume that

2012
01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:47,040
Speaker 3: that means Philip Rivers then hops arrived with the beer

2013
01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:48,040
Speaker 3: ferry back to Alabama.

2014
01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:51,200
Speaker 1: That is a fantastic question.

2015
01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:55,439
Speaker 8: I would think so, but I don't.

2016
01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:59,640
Speaker 11: But also, Philip Rivers is you know the kind of

2017
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:02,360
Speaker 11: guy who duty and that stuff. So maybe you would

2018
01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:04,320
Speaker 11: stick around. But yes, I would think. I would think

2019
01:45:04,360 --> 01:45:06,680
Speaker 11: if they got eliminated, that would be the end of it.

2020
01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:09,400
Speaker 3: Once they're eliminated, they don't have and I hate to

2021
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:10,960
Speaker 3: say this because he's a good dude, but they don't

2022
01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:12,599
Speaker 3: have any use for him at that point because at

2023
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:14,880
Speaker 3: that point you have two quarterbacks that you have to

2024
01:45:14,920 --> 01:45:15,680
Speaker 3: see something from.

2025
01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:17,800
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I.

2026
01:45:17,720 --> 01:45:20,240
Speaker 11: Agree with that. I think if you're eliminated from the playoffs,

2027
01:45:20,240 --> 01:45:24,240
Speaker 11: the changes the equation entirely. And so yeah, that's that's

2028
01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:28,840
Speaker 11: kind of expecting. But you know, I've I've been wrong

2029
01:45:28,880 --> 01:45:32,000
Speaker 11: about this cult team a few times this year, and

2030
01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:34,080
Speaker 11: so I'm making me hedge my bets.

2031
01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:37,519
Speaker 3: But by the way, have you ever listened to Joel

2032
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:40,240
Speaker 3: speaking of the Edmund Fitzgerald? Have you ever listened to

2033
01:45:40,280 --> 01:45:43,439
Speaker 3: the radio transmission of the captain that was in the

2034
01:45:43,479 --> 01:45:45,320
Speaker 3: ship that they asked to go back and check on

2035
01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:46,080
Speaker 3: the Fitzgerald?

2036
01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:47,280
Speaker 1: Yes?

2037
01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:48,040
Speaker 9: I have.

2038
01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:51,000
Speaker 3: I don't mean to make light of this, I mean

2039
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:53,360
Speaker 3: it was fifty years ago. There are still obviously fait,

2040
01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:54,800
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, I would imagine many of the

2041
01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:58,680
Speaker 3: men that perished have kids that are rotten. My age now,

2042
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:01,479
Speaker 3: But I don't know that I've ever heard of radio

2043
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:04,360
Speaker 3: transmission of a dude that less wanted to do what

2044
01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:06,640
Speaker 3: he was being asked than that guy, right, And I

2045
01:46:06,680 --> 01:46:09,960
Speaker 3: don't blame him, right, but but he literally is like, oh,

2046
01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:13,200
Speaker 3: I don't know, the city's pretty large out there. I mean,

2047
01:46:13,320 --> 01:46:15,880
Speaker 3: you could tell this guy was sitting down with a

2048
01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:18,519
Speaker 3: book and a delivery from the beer faery and had

2049
01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:19,519
Speaker 3: zero interest.

2050
01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:22,880
Speaker 1: Correct, Yeah, Yeah, that's that's definitely there.

2051
01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:26,040
Speaker 11: There's a there's a there's a piece I'm only like

2052
01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:29,439
Speaker 11: one hundred and something pages in right now, but there's

2053
01:46:29,479 --> 01:46:31,400
Speaker 11: a piece about like a rescue from one of the

2054
01:46:31,400 --> 01:46:35,720
Speaker 11: other freighters that went down before the fits, and it's

2055
01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:40,559
Speaker 11: the rescue sounds almost as bad as a thinking if that.

2056
01:46:41,320 --> 01:46:43,679
Speaker 1: Oh, it had to have been treacherous as can be. Right.

2057
01:46:43,720 --> 01:46:46,080
Speaker 3: I mean, this guy and I'll give him credit. I mean,

2058
01:46:46,080 --> 01:46:49,760
Speaker 3: the Captain Anderson I think is his name. He is,

2059
01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:52,400
Speaker 3: He was the ship that was and I believe he

2060
01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:55,880
Speaker 3: was in front of the Fitzgerald, if I'm not mistaken.

2061
01:46:56,560 --> 01:46:59,679
Speaker 3: But he when they radioed to him, you know, they're like, hey,

2062
01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:02,200
Speaker 3: can you turn around and go back? And he I

2063
01:47:02,240 --> 01:47:05,479
Speaker 3: mean I think ultimately he did do so actually, And

2064
01:47:05,520 --> 01:47:08,200
Speaker 3: it wasn't that he but he was just saying like, look,

2065
01:47:08,439 --> 01:47:10,840
Speaker 3: this is literally the worst we've ever seen. I mean,

2066
01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:13,920
Speaker 3: he was like, there is holding her own there and

2067
01:47:13,960 --> 01:47:16,960
Speaker 3: then he wanted no part of it. Man, you could tell.

2068
01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:19,560
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's it's kind of haunting actually.

2069
01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:21,920
Speaker 8: The waves, the waves and everything.

2070
01:47:21,960 --> 01:47:25,600
Speaker 11: So obviously being from Wisconsin, I've been by you know,

2071
01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:28,479
Speaker 11: Get You Gone, and by Lake Michigan quite a bit,

2072
01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:33,200
Speaker 11: but I've never been on them, and the waves out

2073
01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:36,599
Speaker 11: out where it's you know, where you have a freighter

2074
01:47:36,640 --> 01:47:40,719
Speaker 11: going in the Great Lakes can be can be pretty intense,

2075
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:44,720
Speaker 11: and I can't imagine trying to you know, like one

2076
01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:46,439
Speaker 11: of the haunting things from the book so far as

2077
01:47:46,439 --> 01:47:49,519
Speaker 11: they say those freighters were so long that like the

2078
01:47:49,560 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 11: front of the freighter could be in one wave and

2079
01:47:52,439 --> 01:47:55,439
Speaker 11: the back of the way the fre freighter could be

2080
01:47:55,439 --> 01:47:57,440
Speaker 11: in the other wave, and the middle is just suspended

2081
01:47:57,479 --> 01:48:00,439
Speaker 11: above the water, which is Herrick.

2082
01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:01,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2083
01:48:01,040 --> 01:48:02,200
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if you know this or not,

2084
01:48:02,280 --> 01:48:04,639
Speaker 3: but the waves turn the minutes to ours now and

2085
01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:08,920
Speaker 3: the Edmund Fitzgerald Joel True true story. The Edmund Fitzgerald,

2086
01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:11,320
Speaker 3: if you had stood it upright, was taller than the

2087
01:48:11,320 --> 01:48:14,160
Speaker 3: Salesforce Tower in Indianapolis. That's how long it was. I

2088
01:48:14,160 --> 01:48:15,840
Speaker 3: mean that gives you an idea how big it was

2089
01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:19,919
Speaker 3: all right before we let you go. Just kind of overall,

2090
01:48:20,280 --> 01:48:23,080
Speaker 3: you know, if you could coming off of this game,

2091
01:48:23,120 --> 01:48:26,320
Speaker 3: there just kind of seems to be this unknown about

2092
01:48:26,360 --> 01:48:29,000
Speaker 3: the Colts speak. And we'll get into it a later time.

2093
01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:31,360
Speaker 3: Whether or not Chris Ballard and Shane Steichen are back

2094
01:48:31,400 --> 01:48:33,760
Speaker 3: we can get, you know, with the the injuries themselves.

2095
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:38,280
Speaker 3: You know, Mooney Ward, I have real question about whether

2096
01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:40,839
Speaker 3: or not he comes back next year, but that remains

2097
01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:43,880
Speaker 3: to be seen. Right other players, you wonder if they

2098
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:47,280
Speaker 3: come back in terms of the health status right now

2099
01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:50,720
Speaker 3: of players for availability that could be working their back,

2100
01:48:50,840 --> 01:48:54,000
Speaker 3: their way back in or miss the game against San Francisco.

2101
01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:57,479
Speaker 3: Run down for me those players and then run down

2102
01:48:57,520 --> 01:49:01,960
Speaker 3: for me what you anticipate seeing, if anything different in

2103
01:49:02,040 --> 01:49:04,880
Speaker 3: terms of their use of philip rivers from what we

2104
01:49:04,920 --> 01:49:06,040
Speaker 3: saw against Seattle.

2105
01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:07,160
Speaker 9: Yeah.

2106
01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:09,720
Speaker 11: I think the big the big tooth that stick out

2107
01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:13,320
Speaker 11: in my mind are the Forest Buckner who practiced last

2108
01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:16,600
Speaker 11: week but wasn't able to go. You know, if you

2109
01:49:16,640 --> 01:49:19,960
Speaker 11: can get him back, that helps. I mean, this past

2110
01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:22,280
Speaker 11: rush has gets only has two secs in the last

2111
01:49:22,280 --> 01:49:25,639
Speaker 11: three weeks. I don't know that you're going to get

2112
01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:30,240
Speaker 11: Buckner the full the Forest Buckner coming off of this injury,

2113
01:49:30,280 --> 01:49:33,559
Speaker 11: but but he would still he would still help. And

2114
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:36,759
Speaker 11: then I'm also very curious to find out does Sauce

2115
01:49:36,880 --> 01:49:39,720
Speaker 11: Gardner uh start to make his way back from the

2116
01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:41,559
Speaker 11: calf He's been out a couple of weeks now.

2117
01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:44,360
Speaker 1: I don't know that the calf.

2118
01:49:44,200 --> 01:49:47,040
Speaker 11: Strains are obviously tricky, and I think if you watch

2119
01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:50,120
Speaker 11: NBA basketball, you're aware that those things tend to linger.

2120
01:49:50,160 --> 01:49:51,920
Speaker 11: So maybe we don't see him. But the other one

2121
01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:57,240
Speaker 11: that could help considerably for this team in.

2122
01:49:57,280 --> 01:49:59,200
Speaker 8: Terms of injury, and then and then the other one.

2123
01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:01,880
Speaker 11: That's just Jude have left tackle because this is a

2124
01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:03,840
Speaker 11: this is a forty nine ers team that does not

2125
01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:06,080
Speaker 11: rush the passer well at all. This season, there were

2126
01:50:06,120 --> 01:50:09,840
Speaker 11: thirty second in sacks or thirty sorry, thirty second sack

2127
01:50:10,120 --> 01:50:14,240
Speaker 11: sack rate. They're thirty first in pressure rate. They only

2128
01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:16,800
Speaker 11: have sixteen sacks on the season. Their lead guy has four,

2129
01:50:17,320 --> 01:50:19,920
Speaker 11: But that kind of evens out if you're going against

2130
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:23,719
Speaker 11: two backup tackles instead of against Bernard Ryman and Jalen Travis,

2131
01:50:23,720 --> 01:50:26,280
Speaker 11: So I think that's the other one. That's there's those

2132
01:50:26,280 --> 01:50:28,680
Speaker 11: three right there would really really change I think the

2133
01:50:28,720 --> 01:50:31,920
Speaker 11: picture a little bit. And then in terms of Rivers,

2134
01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:35,599
Speaker 11: like how many how many of those back shoulders does

2135
01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:36,400
Speaker 11: his arm having them?

2136
01:50:36,400 --> 01:50:39,200
Speaker 3: That's mine and I mean didn't Seattle kind of to

2137
01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:42,439
Speaker 3: me Joel and I didn't mean to cut you off there,

2138
01:50:42,439 --> 01:50:46,280
Speaker 3: but but yes, because Seattle, I think kind of wanted to.

2139
01:50:46,479 --> 01:50:48,960
Speaker 3: They kind of let him do, like, Okay, let's see

2140
01:50:49,000 --> 01:50:51,760
Speaker 3: what you got here, right, And then once they kind

2141
01:50:51,760 --> 01:50:54,840
Speaker 3: of had an idea, then they were able to kind

2142
01:50:54,840 --> 01:50:57,080
Speaker 3: of push forward. They knew they didn't have to drop

2143
01:50:57,200 --> 01:51:00,559
Speaker 3: several back they could spy on Taylor, that they didn't

2144
01:51:00,600 --> 01:51:02,360
Speaker 3: have to blitz because they didn't want Tailor running through

2145
01:51:02,400 --> 01:51:04,640
Speaker 3: a blitz because they just kind of sat back and

2146
01:51:04,680 --> 01:51:07,960
Speaker 3: that and Indianapolis could not move the ball. So did

2147
01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:10,280
Speaker 3: they put the blueprint there for San Francisco?

2148
01:51:11,320 --> 01:51:15,160
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's I mean, if you're if you're Robert Saller,

2149
01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:16,639
Speaker 11: you're thinking, I got to move my guys forward.

2150
01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:17,719
Speaker 8: The other thing that's.

2151
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Speaker 11: Interesting is that San Francisco's defense this year essentially is

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01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:28,880
Speaker 11: allowing teams to just do what Rivers did Essentially, they're

2153
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:31,240
Speaker 11: just letting teams through a complete a lot of passes

2154
01:51:31,280 --> 01:51:34,800
Speaker 11: and throw short. They've given up a very high completion percentage,

2155
01:51:34,840 --> 01:51:36,920
Speaker 11: but they haven't given up that many points because they're

2156
01:51:36,960 --> 01:51:39,360
Speaker 11: incredible in the red zone.

2157
01:51:39,680 --> 01:51:41,040
Speaker 8: So and and.

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01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:42,800
Speaker 11: Then you figure out can they move them forward a

2159
01:51:42,840 --> 01:51:45,720
Speaker 11: little bit not have to worry about say like if

2160
01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:47,519
Speaker 11: you have a different quarterback in this game, then you

2161
01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:50,480
Speaker 11: are terrified by peers getting over the top on you.

2162
01:51:50,479 --> 01:51:53,679
Speaker 11: You're probably not worried about that, right, But their style,

2163
01:51:54,479 --> 01:51:58,200
Speaker 11: their style of play is sort of to to let

2164
01:51:58,240 --> 01:52:00,400
Speaker 11: you do what Rivers was doing last week, then just

2165
01:52:01,200 --> 01:52:03,920
Speaker 11: kind of take advantage of it and let you not

2166
01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:07,040
Speaker 11: score enough points on your drives and then you end

2167
01:52:07,120 --> 01:52:07,559
Speaker 11: up losing.

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01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:12,479
Speaker 3: Okay, Joel, before I let you go, because the wires

2169
01:52:12,479 --> 01:52:14,799
Speaker 3: are getting stepped on again here and it's.

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01:52:15,560 --> 01:52:18,760
Speaker 1: Your voices, like right there, you're a little giggle. It's

2171
01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:20,040
Speaker 1: it's it's fun, right.

2172
01:52:20,439 --> 01:52:22,400
Speaker 3: Uh So if you could, and I'll give you dealer

2173
01:52:22,479 --> 01:52:25,160
Speaker 3: you know or not dealers, but recipient's choice. We need

2174
01:52:25,160 --> 01:52:29,360
Speaker 3: you to either say follow the yellow brick road, we

2175
01:52:29,439 --> 01:52:33,800
Speaker 3: represent the Lollipop Guild, or declare that the witch is dead.

2176
01:52:34,120 --> 01:52:35,200
Speaker 1: Whichever one you'd.

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01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:38,160
Speaker 4: Like follow the yellow brick roads.

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01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:46,439
Speaker 1: Now, did you alter your voice in doing that in

2179
01:52:46,479 --> 01:52:47,559
Speaker 1: any way, shape or form.

2180
01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:51,040
Speaker 11: No, No, and I and I don't and I don't

2181
01:52:51,080 --> 01:52:53,520
Speaker 11: know what just happened on the other end. I'm mystified.

2182
01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:55,840
Speaker 4: We'll send it to you.

2183
01:52:57,200 --> 01:52:59,639
Speaker 11: I assumed it was gonna play me in the next time.

2184
01:52:59,560 --> 01:52:59,880
Speaker 9: My mom.

2185
01:53:01,479 --> 01:53:06,679
Speaker 1: Listen, can he do it one more time?

2186
01:53:09,680 --> 01:53:10,880
Speaker 8: Follow the yellow brick road?

2187
01:53:13,760 --> 01:53:16,080
Speaker 3: All right, Joe, We'll let you go down the yellow

2188
01:53:16,160 --> 01:53:20,679
Speaker 3: brick road. I appreciate it as always. He's a good

2189
01:53:20,920 --> 01:53:24,160
Speaker 3: he's a good sport Joe Daniel and doesn't even know

2190
01:53:24,200 --> 01:53:27,200
Speaker 3: that he's being a good sport. Right, I mean you

2191
01:53:27,280 --> 01:53:30,920
Speaker 3: got to make listen, lemonade and lemons. Right, you get lemons,

2192
01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:32,519
Speaker 3: you make lemonade with it. I want to have fun

2193
01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:34,200
Speaker 3: with it. We'll get it all worked out. We'll get

2194
01:53:34,200 --> 01:53:36,240
Speaker 3: it all figured out. We get the gist of what

2195
01:53:36,280 --> 01:53:40,160
Speaker 3: he's saying. But the that was solid. Do you did

2196
01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:41,519
Speaker 3: you record that already? Can we play it?

2197
01:53:42,000 --> 01:53:42,439
Speaker 4: Absolutely?

2198
01:53:42,520 --> 01:53:44,160
Speaker 1: Go go ahead and fire that up. I don't have

2199
01:53:44,240 --> 01:53:44,439
Speaker 1: it right.

2200
01:53:44,439 --> 01:53:46,040
Speaker 4: I don't have it ready ready, but it's recorded.

2201
01:53:46,479 --> 01:53:48,320
Speaker 3: But when you got it ready ready, like, I want

2202
01:53:48,320 --> 01:53:50,439
Speaker 3: to hear that again because that was great. A. I mean,

2203
01:53:50,600 --> 01:53:53,720
Speaker 3: Ralph was good and Agnes was good, but that that

2204
01:53:53,800 --> 01:53:55,640
Speaker 3: was top of the line. We didn't get Stephanie to

2205
01:53:55,680 --> 01:54:00,320
Speaker 3: do one. Right, Okay, I think Joel's the clubhouse leader here, right,

2206
01:54:01,120 --> 01:54:01,439
Speaker 3: is it not?

2207
01:54:02,200 --> 01:54:05,480
Speaker 4: I think that's fair to say, totally solid.

2208
01:54:05,439 --> 01:54:06,439
Speaker 1: From Joel a Ericson.

2209
01:54:06,520 --> 01:54:09,320
Speaker 3: But like I said, when it comes to the way

2210
01:54:09,439 --> 01:54:13,840
Speaker 3: that San Francisco, if I'm San Francisco, I look at

2211
01:54:13,840 --> 01:54:18,120
Speaker 3: it and I say, okay, it's really simple. When Philip

2212
01:54:18,200 --> 01:54:24,400
Speaker 3: Rivers is under center, then you know, I think in

2213
01:54:24,479 --> 01:54:26,800
Speaker 3: the beginning they were tempted to blitz and like we

2214
01:54:26,880 --> 01:54:30,160
Speaker 3: got to get after Philip Rivers and just and put

2215
01:54:30,200 --> 01:54:33,920
Speaker 3: on bring the heat. But then they very quickly figured

2216
01:54:33,920 --> 01:54:37,920
Speaker 3: out we don't even need to do that because his

2217
01:54:39,200 --> 01:54:43,720
Speaker 3: range is so limited. He did throw that fabulous pass

2218
01:54:43,760 --> 01:54:45,840
Speaker 3: to Alec Pearce, but for the most part he is

2219
01:54:45,920 --> 01:54:48,840
Speaker 3: now a dank and dunk quarterback, which is fine, but

2220
01:54:49,000 --> 01:54:53,640
Speaker 3: between his lack of mobility and his lack of long

2221
01:54:53,720 --> 01:54:58,320
Speaker 3: ball range, you knew, look, we can the curveball here

2222
01:54:58,480 --> 01:55:01,160
Speaker 3: is you have a Mira Duela that they're not bringing

2223
01:55:01,200 --> 01:55:05,480
Speaker 3: out of the backfield, and you have Jonathan Taylor, so

2224
01:55:05,600 --> 01:55:09,000
Speaker 3: we can't blitz and bring too many, because then if

2225
01:55:09,080 --> 01:55:11,600
Speaker 3: they are able to get beyond the line, then they've

2226
01:55:11,600 --> 01:55:14,440
Speaker 3: got open space there. So they said, you know what,

2227
01:55:14,480 --> 01:55:17,200
Speaker 3: We're just gonna drop back stack it right there, five

2228
01:55:17,280 --> 01:55:21,280
Speaker 3: yards off the line and see if Rivers can throw

2229
01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:24,840
Speaker 3: over that. And he couldn't and Taylor couldn't run through it,

2230
01:55:25,600 --> 01:55:29,880
Speaker 3: and that would seemingly be the the blueprint that you

2231
01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:33,400
Speaker 3: would assume San Francisco holds with.

2232
01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:35,840
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, do we have each? Do we have each?

2233
01:55:36,280 --> 01:55:36,440
Speaker 9: To hear?

2234
01:55:36,520 --> 01:55:39,840
Speaker 4: But what do you do when you're looking for the

2235
01:55:39,880 --> 01:55:40,680
Speaker 4: Wizard of Oz?

2236
01:55:44,360 --> 01:55:48,960
Speaker 1: Okay, that's Joel? Right? Do we have Scott from yesterday?

2237
01:55:48,960 --> 01:55:49,400
Speaker 1: We don't have that?

2238
01:55:49,480 --> 01:55:52,840
Speaker 4: De we I don't know now what what did we have?

2239
01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:54,960
Speaker 4: Stephanie say follow the yellow brick road?

2240
01:55:54,960 --> 01:55:58,200
Speaker 3: And I believe now. So here's what we're gonna do.

2241
01:55:58,520 --> 01:56:01,640
Speaker 3: We got to do like a a competition. I'll send you.

2242
01:56:01,680 --> 01:56:04,360
Speaker 3: I've got Scott from yesterday. We've got to see which

2243
01:56:04,360 --> 01:56:06,560
Speaker 3: one was the best. I think it may have been.

2244
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:09,560
Speaker 3: I think Joel was the best, right, Yeah, I agree,

2245
01:56:11,640 --> 01:56:16,600
Speaker 3: I think I think that that one was the best one.

2246
01:56:18,040 --> 01:56:20,640
Speaker 3: But we'll make a we'll make a sporting competition out

2247
01:56:20,640 --> 01:56:21,040
Speaker 3: of all of.

2248
01:56:21,000 --> 01:56:24,040
Speaker 4: It, and these guys will never call us again.

2249
01:56:24,680 --> 01:56:33,720
Speaker 3: Oh no, they will listen. I have again, Nathaniel. I'm

2250
01:56:33,720 --> 01:56:37,680
Speaker 3: gonna be honest with you. When I was on that

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01:56:37,760 --> 01:56:41,080
Speaker 3: late night bus in Saint Louis and I heard the

2252
01:56:41,160 --> 01:56:46,000
Speaker 3: rustling and literally and there was a bit of a

2253
01:56:46,080 --> 01:56:49,640
Speaker 3: chill on the bus and Saint luisie hot humid town,

2254
01:56:51,720 --> 01:56:54,120
Speaker 3: just a slight illumination in the interior of the bus,

2255
01:56:54,120 --> 01:56:56,080
Speaker 3: only the driver up front. But the driver was in

2256
01:56:56,120 --> 01:57:00,360
Speaker 3: a different area the bus, and I heard the little

2257
01:57:00,400 --> 01:57:04,960
Speaker 3: rustling of a noise and that's when I look down

2258
01:57:05,000 --> 01:57:07,360
Speaker 3: and there it was just this glistening of light and

2259
01:57:07,400 --> 01:57:10,440
Speaker 3: it was the beer Fairy. And the beer faery told me,

2260
01:57:11,240 --> 01:57:13,840
Speaker 3: I live in Saint Louis. This is the worst time

2261
01:57:13,880 --> 01:57:16,560
Speaker 3: to be the beer faery because no one needs beer delivered.

2262
01:57:16,600 --> 01:57:18,600
Speaker 3: The entire city works for Frandheuser Busch and they all

2263
01:57:18,600 --> 01:57:20,920
Speaker 3: get their own free allotment. Every other Thursday, they open

2264
01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:24,720
Speaker 3: their trunk, they get two cases of either Bush Bud.

2265
01:57:24,600 --> 01:57:25,160
Speaker 1: Or bud Light.

2266
01:57:26,440 --> 01:57:30,760
Speaker 3: And the beer Fairy was legitimately depressed. And I said, well,

2267
01:57:30,960 --> 01:57:33,320
Speaker 3: I live in Indianapolis, and there are times I might

2268
01:57:33,480 --> 01:57:36,080
Speaker 3: meet people that could use the services of a beer Faery,

2269
01:57:37,120 --> 01:57:39,800
Speaker 3: and so the Beer Faery said that would be wonderful.

2270
01:57:40,680 --> 01:57:41,640
Speaker 1: That would be wonderful.

2271
01:57:42,120 --> 01:57:45,280
Speaker 3: And I have worked as an intermediary for the Beer

2272
01:57:45,320 --> 01:57:47,760
Speaker 3: Faery in helping out people like Joel to get beer

2273
01:57:47,840 --> 01:57:51,360
Speaker 3: from places from afar that they can't normally get. So,

2274
01:57:51,560 --> 01:57:55,840
Speaker 3: for example, the Beer Fery has a network of people,

2275
01:57:56,040 --> 01:57:58,480
Speaker 3: and I was in Wisconsin and the Beer Faery got

2276
01:57:58,480 --> 01:58:03,480
Speaker 3: me in touch with the Wisconsin chapter and Joel told

2277
01:58:03,480 --> 01:58:06,640
Speaker 3: me specifically what he wanted, and the Beer Fairy delivered it. Now,

2278
01:58:07,880 --> 01:58:12,120
Speaker 3: the pay for that. The Beer Fairy wants no money.

2279
01:58:13,000 --> 01:58:15,839
Speaker 3: The Beer Fairy wants no money. The Beer Fairy simply

2280
01:58:16,160 --> 01:58:20,080
Speaker 3: wants the recipient to know that it means that they

2281
01:58:20,080 --> 01:58:24,600
Speaker 3: should do nice things as a token of appreciation for

2282
01:58:24,720 --> 01:58:28,080
Speaker 3: the facilitator. So I'm not saying that we're bribing Joel

2283
01:58:28,080 --> 01:58:29,560
Speaker 3: to come on the program. I'm not saying that in

2284
01:58:29,600 --> 01:58:31,560
Speaker 3: any way, shape or form. I'm not saying I'm offering

2285
01:58:31,600 --> 01:58:32,960
Speaker 3: rendering payment for it.

2286
01:58:33,400 --> 01:58:36,280
Speaker 1: But there's a system of reciprocity here.

2287
01:58:36,520 --> 01:58:39,080
Speaker 3: There's a friendship that takes place where he says, you

2288
01:58:39,080 --> 01:58:45,120
Speaker 3: know what, no problem, even when we mockingly play clips

2289
01:58:45,160 --> 01:58:48,600
Speaker 3: of him doing soundbits from the Wizard of oz like

2290
01:58:48,600 --> 01:58:50,560
Speaker 3: the one Nathaniel you just played. That will play again

2291
01:58:50,640 --> 01:58:51,120
Speaker 3: right here.

2292
01:58:51,040 --> 01:58:53,080
Speaker 11: Right follow the yellow broad.

2293
01:58:55,040 --> 01:58:59,200
Speaker 3: Scott Agnes was solid yesterday. But I think Ralph freefers

2294
01:58:59,200 --> 01:59:00,400
Speaker 3: pretty play Ralph again.

2295
01:59:00,520 --> 01:59:02,440
Speaker 10: We represent the Lollipop Guild.

2296
01:59:04,560 --> 01:59:08,280
Speaker 1: It's pretty good. Man. Did you find Stephanie's.

2297
01:59:08,680 --> 01:59:10,520
Speaker 5: We didn't ask Stephanie too, we had. We had asked

2298
01:59:10,520 --> 01:59:12,480
Speaker 5: her if she could wade through sounding like helium.

2299
01:59:12,560 --> 01:59:13,840
Speaker 4: She said, yeah, I got it mixed up.

2300
01:59:13,960 --> 01:59:16,040
Speaker 1: Okay, I couldn't remember either.

2301
01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:18,360
Speaker 3: We'll come back just about twenty minutes from now, by

2302
01:59:18,360 --> 01:59:20,240
Speaker 3: the way, actually a little over that, about thirty minutes

2303
01:59:20,240 --> 01:59:22,280
Speaker 3: about jamb will be here as part of the crossover,

2304
01:59:22,360 --> 01:59:24,520
Speaker 3: brought to you by Love Eating and Air Love Dash

2305
01:59:24,680 --> 01:59:27,080
Speaker 3: HVAC dot com is the website three one seven three

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01:59:27,120 --> 01:59:28,760
Speaker 3: five three twenty one forty one.

2307
01:59:29,520 --> 01:59:32,200
Speaker 2: Query in company on Nutty three five and one oh

2308
01:59:32,280 --> 01:59:33,440
Speaker 2: seven five the fan.

2309
01:59:34,440 --> 01:59:37,240
Speaker 3: Thank you, by the way, to Stephanie White, Ralph ree

2310
01:59:37,960 --> 01:59:41,520
Speaker 3: Joel A. Erickson All for joining the program. Nathaniel, don't

2311
01:59:41,560 --> 01:59:44,920
Speaker 3: call me Attica. Spinch has been manning the controls today.

2312
01:59:46,520 --> 01:59:47,840
Speaker 3: Eddie back tomorrow, Is that right?

2313
01:59:49,400 --> 01:59:52,280
Speaker 5: We'll see if the Hat Guild Federation place lets him.

2314
01:59:52,320 --> 01:59:53,960
Speaker 1: The big Hat Federation. That's correct.

2315
01:59:53,960 --> 01:59:57,480
Speaker 3: Well, he's the big Head, the Big Head Federation. But

2316
01:59:58,200 --> 02:00:02,040
Speaker 3: now he's doing the lighting. I think they're the lighting

2317
02:00:02,040 --> 02:00:03,920
Speaker 3: that he's helping put up out of the fairgrounds. I

2318
02:00:03,960 --> 02:00:07,560
Speaker 3: believe they take Thursdays off, so he may be in here.

2319
02:00:07,560 --> 02:00:09,600
Speaker 3: And of course there's a Pacers game tomorrow night as well.

2320
02:00:10,440 --> 02:00:13,920
Speaker 3: Pacers next Tomorrow night. Nicks are of course the NBA

2321
02:00:14,240 --> 02:00:15,920
Speaker 3: in season champion.

2322
02:00:16,000 --> 02:00:18,640
Speaker 4: Right, hopefully they partied like crazy still.

2323
02:00:19,240 --> 02:00:21,800
Speaker 1: That's right, all kinds of champagne flowing right.

2324
02:00:24,080 --> 02:00:28,480
Speaker 3: Speaking of by the way celebrations and tomorrow night and

2325
02:00:28,560 --> 02:00:31,080
Speaker 3: the Pacers. I will be at Night Owls at thirty

2326
02:00:31,080 --> 02:00:34,840
Speaker 3: five thirty five South Emerson tomorrow night, beginning at seven thirty.

2327
02:00:34,880 --> 02:00:37,040
Speaker 3: This is part of our friends at Mick Ultra. I

2328
02:00:37,080 --> 02:00:42,280
Speaker 3: love it Micultra. We do the basically the mini ball

2329
02:00:43,600 --> 02:00:48,000
Speaker 3: Papa Shot competition and you go out. It's very simple,

2330
02:00:48,120 --> 02:00:51,720
Speaker 3: come out, have a Mick Ultra, enjoy the atmosphere. We'll

2331
02:00:51,720 --> 02:00:54,560
Speaker 3: be watching the Pacers game. I would love to see everybody.

2332
02:00:54,600 --> 02:00:57,120
Speaker 3: I'm rarely down there in the Beechgrove area in terms

2333
02:00:57,400 --> 02:00:59,200
Speaker 3: just in terms of I don't mean I'm rarely down there.

2334
02:00:59,240 --> 02:01:01,200
Speaker 3: I love that area and I'm rarely down in terms

2335
02:01:01,200 --> 02:01:03,240
Speaker 3: of like being on remotes and things like that. So

2336
02:01:03,440 --> 02:01:06,720
Speaker 3: because I'm not out and about with this time frame

2337
02:01:06,800 --> 02:01:09,120
Speaker 3: as much, so tomorrow night, seven thirty to nine thirty,

2338
02:01:09,160 --> 02:01:12,160
Speaker 3: I will be there. Come out, try your luck, try

2339
02:01:12,160 --> 02:01:13,960
Speaker 3: to record the high score. You get the high score

2340
02:01:14,000 --> 02:01:16,080
Speaker 3: for the night, you're gonna win a Mick Ultra jersey.

2341
02:01:16,480 --> 02:01:19,200
Speaker 3: You're gonna get your score recorded and written down, and

2342
02:01:19,240 --> 02:01:21,640
Speaker 3: then your chance to advance into the finals.

2343
02:01:21,720 --> 02:01:22,280
Speaker 1: All told.

2344
02:01:22,400 --> 02:01:24,880
Speaker 3: After the stops that we do. We already have done

2345
02:01:24,960 --> 02:01:30,680
Speaker 3: this one stop at Bankley's, which was awesome. Bankley's in

2346
02:01:31,560 --> 02:01:38,480
Speaker 3: basically South Broaderpool, Kessler in college and Banklee's I loved.

2347
02:01:38,640 --> 02:01:42,320
Speaker 3: I love Bankley's in general. I've been to Bankley's a

2348
02:01:42,640 --> 02:01:47,760
Speaker 3: billion times over the course of my years. And one

2349
02:01:47,760 --> 02:01:50,560
Speaker 3: of the things amongst many that I love about Bankley's

2350
02:01:50,600 --> 02:01:57,120
Speaker 3: right now is they have decided Courtney kind of just said,

2351
02:01:57,160 --> 02:02:00,600
Speaker 3: you know what, you have the old Union Jackson Speedway

2352
02:02:00,640 --> 02:02:04,080
Speaker 3: location off of Crawfordsville, and I love Union jack in

2353
02:02:04,080 --> 02:02:04,560
Speaker 3: broader Pool.

2354
02:02:04,560 --> 02:02:05,200
Speaker 1: That not related.

2355
02:02:05,240 --> 02:02:08,240
Speaker 3: The two of them are no longer affiliated. The Union

2356
02:02:08,320 --> 02:02:13,200
Speaker 3: jack in Broaderpool, I believe was after the one in

2357
02:02:13,240 --> 02:02:15,520
Speaker 3: Speedway had opened, and at one time they were under

2358
02:02:15,520 --> 02:02:16,160
Speaker 3: the same umbrella.

2359
02:02:16,240 --> 02:02:16,880
Speaker 1: They are no longer.

2360
02:02:17,320 --> 02:02:21,520
Speaker 3: The speedway location location closed and it was literally that

2361
02:02:21,720 --> 02:02:26,760
Speaker 3: was the spot for Indy five hundred memorabilia and just

2362
02:02:26,960 --> 02:02:30,880
Speaker 3: war stories and you know, Bobby uns are going in

2363
02:02:30,920 --> 02:02:33,640
Speaker 3: there and hanging out and et cetera, et cetera. And

2364
02:02:35,240 --> 02:02:39,040
Speaker 3: Bankley's has done a remarkable job. Subtle That's what I

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Speaker 3: like about it. There's a subtlety just in terms of

2366
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Speaker 3: almost like the molding around the wall itself of nothing,

2367
02:02:45,720 --> 02:02:50,600
Speaker 3: but I mean by the dozens historic Indianapolis five hundred,

2368
02:02:50,600 --> 02:02:55,960
Speaker 3: black and white photos, winter photos, qualifying photos, all of it, Lynda,

2369
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Speaker 3: Vaughn Parnelli, Uncle Bobby Little, app Mario, all kinds of

2370
02:03:02,080 --> 02:03:05,000
Speaker 3: signed memorabilia stuff. And they have one room in there

2371
02:03:05,080 --> 02:03:09,560
Speaker 3: that is essentially they have two private dining rooms at Bankley's,

2372
02:03:09,600 --> 02:03:13,640
Speaker 3: but one of them is designed around the five hundred.

2373
02:03:13,640 --> 02:03:15,880
Speaker 3: It is super cool and it goes without saying they

2374
02:03:15,920 --> 02:03:20,280
Speaker 3: got a great, great menu and the culture that we

2375
02:03:20,320 --> 02:03:24,080
Speaker 3: had there. It was fun doing the competition and then

2376
02:03:24,120 --> 02:03:26,360
Speaker 3: the high score. I believe Glenn got the high score

2377
02:03:26,400 --> 02:03:29,440
Speaker 3: that night. That means that he is eligible to advance

2378
02:03:29,560 --> 02:03:32,280
Speaker 3: amongst the other finalists. At the end of this tour

2379
02:03:32,320 --> 02:03:35,160
Speaker 3: that we're doing with mcultra and again going to be

2380
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Speaker 3: at thirty five thirty five South Emerson seven thirty Tomorrow night.

2381
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Speaker 3: Ultimate Prize go to Milwaukee early February. Tickets Hotel Voucher

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Speaker 3: c Miles Turner taking on his former team taking on

2383
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Speaker 3: the Blue and Gold in Milwaukee, and you will be

2384
02:03:53,880 --> 02:03:58,680
Speaker 3: there and I look forward to it tenfold. We talked

2385
02:03:58,760 --> 02:04:02,640
Speaker 3: earlier at the beginning of the show about this and

2386
02:04:02,760 --> 02:04:09,919
Speaker 3: Joel just mentioned it, the situation of Shane Steichen answering

2387
02:04:09,920 --> 02:04:12,840
Speaker 3: the question, and I think it is a very fair question,

2388
02:04:15,040 --> 02:04:19,480
Speaker 3: and I'm not certain that I believe his answer. I

2389
02:04:19,560 --> 02:04:23,160
Speaker 3: totally understand that Anthony Richardson is coming off an injury

2390
02:04:23,160 --> 02:04:28,480
Speaker 3: that is of significance, an orbital bone fracture. I mean,

2391
02:04:28,480 --> 02:04:32,320
Speaker 3: that's painful to even say, a fracture in the bone

2392
02:04:32,360 --> 02:04:38,000
Speaker 3: of your eye socket, brutal, and Anthony Richardson, it's at

2393
02:04:38,080 --> 02:04:40,560
Speaker 3: no fault of his The guy was He wasn't in

2394
02:04:40,600 --> 02:04:43,960
Speaker 3: a he wasn't riding around on a sport bike. He

2395
02:04:44,120 --> 02:04:47,960
Speaker 3: wasn't snowboarding. Dare I say it in this town. It

2396
02:04:48,080 --> 02:04:52,720
Speaker 3: wasn't water skiing. He was literally stretching before a game

2397
02:04:52,760 --> 02:04:55,480
Speaker 3: and the contraption snapped and snapped back and hit him

2398
02:04:55,520 --> 02:04:58,960
Speaker 3: in the eye. It is horrific. And I have no

2399
02:04:59,080 --> 02:05:03,760
Speaker 3: reason to believe that Anthony Richardson is anything other than

2400
02:05:03,760 --> 02:05:08,960
Speaker 3: a very likable young guy and a great story. But

2401
02:05:09,080 --> 02:05:11,640
Speaker 3: when he came out of Florida, the narrative on Anthony

2402
02:05:11,720 --> 02:05:18,040
Speaker 3: Richardson was that he was injury prone and immature. And

2403
02:05:18,640 --> 02:05:23,960
Speaker 3: the injury prone aspect has certainly followed him. The immaturity

2404
02:05:24,200 --> 02:05:26,680
Speaker 3: that's not up for me to determine other than to

2405
02:05:26,680 --> 02:05:31,720
Speaker 3: go by what they have told me publicly, and Shane

2406
02:05:31,760 --> 02:05:35,839
Speaker 3: Steiken has said in not so many terms, that's exactly

2407
02:05:35,880 --> 02:05:39,400
Speaker 3: the challenge in the issue, is he is a player

2408
02:05:40,080 --> 02:05:47,120
Speaker 3: that what did Shane Steiken keep saying, it's in totality,

2409
02:05:47,240 --> 02:05:50,400
Speaker 3: it's in the meeting rooms, it's all encompassing, it's not

2410
02:05:50,640 --> 02:05:54,360
Speaker 3: just what happens on the field. And in the case

2411
02:05:54,440 --> 02:05:58,360
Speaker 3: of Richardson, the helmet tap was probably the beginning of it,

2412
02:05:58,400 --> 02:06:02,960
Speaker 3: all right. And they brought in Daniel Jones, perhaps to

2413
02:06:03,160 --> 02:06:10,240
Speaker 3: offer guidance, perhaps to offer insurance, or perhaps because they

2414
02:06:10,320 --> 02:06:13,600
Speaker 3: knew right there, this guy's a better player, and we

2415
02:06:13,640 --> 02:06:20,240
Speaker 3: know what happened with Daniel Jones. Shane Steichen yesterday was

2416
02:06:20,360 --> 02:06:24,520
Speaker 3: kind of caught in his wording a little bit when

2417
02:06:24,640 --> 02:06:30,160
Speaker 3: Joel asked him, Hey, you're saying that you're going with

2418
02:06:30,240 --> 02:06:35,280
Speaker 3: Philip Rivers on Sunday night because he gives you the

2419
02:06:35,320 --> 02:06:39,680
Speaker 3: better chance to win, but also because right now Richardson

2420
02:06:39,760 --> 02:06:46,600
Speaker 3: needs to get back into like complete physical shape, physical

2421
02:06:46,640 --> 02:06:51,080
Speaker 3: activity shape, I believe, was the wording. And you have

2422
02:06:51,160 --> 02:06:55,320
Speaker 3: a forty four year old guy, a forty four year

2423
02:06:55,320 --> 02:06:57,640
Speaker 3: old you have Anthony Richardson senior, and then on the

2424
02:06:57,680 --> 02:07:00,000
Speaker 3: other hand, you have a guy that's basically a senior citizen.

2425
02:07:00,880 --> 02:07:03,520
Speaker 3: And the forty four year old guy who clearly has

2426
02:07:03,520 --> 02:07:07,080
Speaker 3: put on weight and has been his extent of physical

2427
02:07:07,120 --> 02:07:09,160
Speaker 3: activity has been Yeah, I'm sure he was working out,

2428
02:07:09,200 --> 02:07:12,360
Speaker 3: hitting the treadmill, watching land Man during some elliptical sessions.

2429
02:07:12,400 --> 02:07:12,840
Speaker 1: I get it.

2430
02:07:13,800 --> 02:07:15,600
Speaker 3: But he was a high school football coach that has

2431
02:07:15,640 --> 02:07:18,360
Speaker 3: not thrown a pass in nearly five years in the NFL,

2432
02:07:19,000 --> 02:07:23,120
Speaker 3: and you more trust his physical traits and ability right

2433
02:07:23,160 --> 02:07:27,360
Speaker 3: now than a guy because he missed four weeks. And

2434
02:07:27,560 --> 02:07:31,160
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson is a guy that one of the selling

2435
02:07:31,240 --> 02:07:34,960
Speaker 3: cards about him, the selling point about him, the narrative

2436
02:07:35,160 --> 02:07:37,720
Speaker 3: from the Colts, not from me, not from Nathaniel, not

2437
02:07:37,800 --> 02:07:40,760
Speaker 3: from James, not from John, not from Kevin, not from Jeff.

2438
02:07:41,720 --> 02:07:44,120
Speaker 3: The Colts are the ones that said we would have

2439
02:07:44,200 --> 02:07:48,560
Speaker 3: taken him number one overall because he is so physically gifted.

2440
02:07:51,040 --> 02:07:53,280
Speaker 3: And I would think that even seventy percent of that

2441
02:07:53,320 --> 02:07:56,600
Speaker 3: physically gifted still you look at it and say that

2442
02:07:56,640 --> 02:07:59,040
Speaker 3: would give us a chance to win, or we want

2443
02:07:59,080 --> 02:08:02,360
Speaker 3: to see what we can out of him before we

2444
02:08:02,400 --> 02:08:05,520
Speaker 3: analyze an assess going forward. Do we bring back Daniel Jones,

2445
02:08:05,560 --> 02:08:08,080
Speaker 3: do we sign him, do we keep around Riley Leonard,

2446
02:08:08,120 --> 02:08:12,360
Speaker 3: who's our backup for next year, et cetera. And I

2447
02:08:12,520 --> 02:08:15,240
Speaker 3: get the fact that you're talking about that eye injury

2448
02:08:15,320 --> 02:08:18,640
Speaker 3: is a tenuous thing, but why not just come out

2449
02:08:18,680 --> 02:08:21,760
Speaker 3: and say, guys, listen, because he was cleared to play,

2450
02:08:22,160 --> 02:08:25,160
Speaker 3: because he was cleared for activity on the field doesn't

2451
02:08:25,240 --> 02:08:27,160
Speaker 3: mean that he is cleared for contact.

2452
02:08:28,000 --> 02:08:30,840
Speaker 1: And if he had said that, everyone would have gone.

2453
02:08:30,880 --> 02:08:34,760
Speaker 3: I totally get it an eye fracture, But by saying

2454
02:08:35,040 --> 02:08:37,480
Speaker 3: it's more than that, it's just getting him into like

2455
02:08:37,600 --> 02:08:44,480
Speaker 3: playing type shape, what that to me is Shane Steichen

2456
02:08:44,600 --> 02:08:48,040
Speaker 3: all but saying I'm not interested in having the guy

2457
02:08:48,040 --> 02:08:51,120
Speaker 3: on the field. I don't think it's a personal thing.

2458
02:08:51,200 --> 02:08:54,280
Speaker 3: I don't think it's a character thing. I just think

2459
02:08:54,320 --> 02:08:56,880
Speaker 3: it's a lack of maturity thing, or more so, a

2460
02:08:57,040 --> 02:09:01,240
Speaker 3: lack of skill of the position. If if Anthony Richardson

2461
02:09:01,600 --> 02:09:05,720
Speaker 3: had within him any trace of what they saw as

2462
02:09:05,760 --> 02:09:09,480
Speaker 3: a guy at that size and that athleticism, after the

2463
02:09:09,560 --> 02:09:12,000
Speaker 3: number of starts that he's had, if they felt that

2464
02:09:12,120 --> 02:09:15,040
Speaker 3: he could still go out and give them a chance,

2465
02:09:15,080 --> 02:09:18,480
Speaker 3: a puncher's chance, to win games, they'd be doing everything

2466
02:09:18,520 --> 02:09:22,000
Speaker 3: they can to expedite him being on the field because

2467
02:09:22,040 --> 02:09:24,360
Speaker 3: you still have him for the future. You still have

2468
02:09:24,480 --> 02:09:27,240
Speaker 3: him if you so chose, for beyond this year. There's

2469
02:09:27,360 --> 02:09:30,680
Speaker 3: no reason not to continue to kick the tires on

2470
02:09:30,760 --> 02:09:34,200
Speaker 3: that and see what's there, especially right now. And if

2471
02:09:34,240 --> 02:09:36,600
Speaker 3: you want to tell me they can't afford to do

2472
02:09:36,640 --> 02:09:40,000
Speaker 3: that right now because they are still in playoff contention,

2473
02:09:40,520 --> 02:09:42,880
Speaker 3: I would say to you, then, why did you draft

2474
02:09:42,920 --> 02:09:47,320
Speaker 3: a guy fifth overall as a quarterback that when it

2475
02:09:47,360 --> 02:09:50,200
Speaker 3: came down to it, you cannot trust in the biggest

2476
02:09:50,240 --> 02:09:52,760
Speaker 3: of moments, in the biggest of games. That is the

2477
02:09:52,800 --> 02:09:56,720
Speaker 3: Colts saying right there, he's a bust. And even though

2478
02:09:56,720 --> 02:09:59,240
Speaker 3: they're not saying it in that language. It appears to

2479
02:09:59,280 --> 02:10:02,360
Speaker 3: be the first time they are insinuating to all of us.

2480
02:10:02,600 --> 02:10:08,080
Speaker 1: Read the tea leaves, folks, read the room, Read the room.

2481
02:10:09,880 --> 02:10:14,240
Speaker 1: We've moved on from it. I don't know that that's fact,

2482
02:10:15,520 --> 02:10:18,560
Speaker 1: but it feels that way. Crossovers Next tell you.

2483
02:10:18,680 --> 02:10:20,480
Speaker 10: Paul, I'm the director of giddiness.

2484
02:10:20,640 --> 02:10:23,880
Speaker 1: Is you're feeling giddy on Quariot Companies? How the fans

2485
02:10:24,320 --> 02:10:25,520
Speaker 1: crossover upcoming?

2486
02:10:25,600 --> 02:10:29,480
Speaker 3: JMV is here lovedshhvac dot com is the website three

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Speaker 3: one seven three five three twenty one forty one. The

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Speaker 3: telephone number for the very best. An official Hile Heating

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Speaker 3: and cooling dealer is Love Heating and Air. They've been

2490
02:10:37,040 --> 02:10:39,840
Speaker 3: around for over one hundred years in Central Indiana since

2491
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Speaker 3: nineteen twenty Love Heating and Air.

2492
02:10:43,240 --> 02:10:46,680
Speaker 1: Speaking of John and basketball.

2493
02:10:46,000 --> 02:10:47,880
Speaker 3: As we were talking about the fact that Pacers back

2494
02:10:47,880 --> 02:10:50,720
Speaker 3: in action nixt tomorrow night Gambridge Field House, I will

2495
02:10:50,720 --> 02:10:54,440
Speaker 3: be down and look forward to seeing everybody from seven

2496
02:10:54,520 --> 02:10:57,880
Speaker 3: thirty until nine thirty tomorrow night. If you are not

2497
02:10:58,200 --> 02:11:01,200
Speaker 3: going to the game, then certainly come by Owls and

2498
02:11:01,240 --> 02:11:04,560
Speaker 3: I will be there in Beach Grove along with our

2499
02:11:04,560 --> 02:11:08,720
Speaker 3: friends from Mick ultra but Indiana State and Matthew Graves

2500
02:11:09,360 --> 02:11:12,160
Speaker 3: want to welcome him back again. Matthew Graves who had

2501
02:11:12,320 --> 02:11:14,520
Speaker 3: triple bypass surgery and I don't belie and that was

2502
02:11:14,560 --> 02:11:19,360
Speaker 3: not like a scheduled surgery. He you know, several months

2503
02:11:19,400 --> 02:11:21,880
Speaker 3: ago of course, at the beginning of the basketball season,

2504
02:11:22,920 --> 02:11:27,520
Speaker 3: was not feeling well and went in and they immediately

2505
02:11:27,520 --> 02:11:31,760
Speaker 3: realized that there was I'm gonna assume blockage and so

2506
02:11:31,880 --> 02:11:37,120
Speaker 3: triple bypass. And you know, I know I did not

2507
02:11:37,240 --> 02:11:39,520
Speaker 3: have triple bypass. I mean, don't get me wrong here.

2508
02:11:39,560 --> 02:11:42,200
Speaker 3: I'm not even comparing what I went through to that.

2509
02:11:43,960 --> 02:11:45,880
Speaker 3: But as somebody that had, you know, one hundred percent

2510
02:11:45,920 --> 02:11:50,760
Speaker 3: blockage and a widow maker, there is a feeling of

2511
02:11:52,040 --> 02:11:58,840
Speaker 3: health and physical vulnerability that is just very psychologically tough

2512
02:11:58,840 --> 02:12:02,960
Speaker 3: to overcome. So for Matthew Graves to get out, even

2513
02:12:03,000 --> 02:12:05,200
Speaker 3: though he is not returning to the Indiana State basketball

2514
02:12:05,240 --> 02:12:07,480
Speaker 3: team at this point on a one hundred percent basis,

2515
02:12:07,560 --> 02:12:12,240
Speaker 3: but being on the sidelines, being around it psychologically, you know, emotionally,

2516
02:12:12,320 --> 02:12:16,600
Speaker 3: I know that's very important. But also on top of that,

2517
02:12:18,000 --> 02:12:22,600
Speaker 3: just the psychology of it and the feeling of return

2518
02:12:22,840 --> 02:12:28,280
Speaker 3: to normalcy. And once he goes through that. I can't

2519
02:12:28,320 --> 02:12:30,360
Speaker 3: speak for him, but I can speak from my own

2520
02:12:30,440 --> 02:12:35,440
Speaker 3: experience that once you go through each thing for the

2521
02:12:35,440 --> 02:12:38,520
Speaker 3: first time, after you know, once you have items placed

2522
02:12:38,560 --> 02:12:42,800
Speaker 3: in your heart and you feel that vulnerability or you're

2523
02:12:42,840 --> 02:12:47,920
Speaker 3: aware of it, then that becomes each step like that

2524
02:12:48,200 --> 02:12:52,240
Speaker 3: is so important because you just think, Okay, I've gone

2525
02:12:52,280 --> 02:12:55,080
Speaker 3: through that. Now, now I know I can do that,

2526
02:12:55,520 --> 02:12:59,080
Speaker 3: my body can respond to things, and I'm not as

2527
02:12:59,200 --> 02:13:03,480
Speaker 3: vulnerable as thought. It's an interesting dynamic. You see it

2528
02:13:03,520 --> 02:13:06,920
Speaker 3: a lot of times as well with professional athletes that

2529
02:13:06,960 --> 02:13:09,160
Speaker 3: come back from injury. You know that even when the

2530
02:13:09,240 --> 02:13:11,160
Speaker 3: knee is one hundred percent, the ankles one hundred percent,

2531
02:13:11,200 --> 02:13:15,040
Speaker 3: the achilles is one hundred percent, the peace of mind

2532
02:13:15,280 --> 02:13:19,240
Speaker 3: or the confidence to make a cut, to make a move,

2533
02:13:19,440 --> 02:13:23,120
Speaker 3: all of those things take time, and there is a

2534
02:13:23,200 --> 02:13:27,880
Speaker 3: psychological hurdle that needs to take place in order for

2535
02:13:27,920 --> 02:13:30,640
Speaker 3: the athlete to feel like back at one hundred percent,

2536
02:13:31,200 --> 02:13:33,520
Speaker 3: and in the case of this, you know, just being

2537
02:13:33,560 --> 02:13:37,320
Speaker 3: out there and having the confidence that his body is

2538
02:13:37,360 --> 02:13:40,600
Speaker 3: going to be able to get through it. JMB has arrived.

2539
02:13:40,600 --> 02:13:43,160
Speaker 3: It is indeed time for the crossover, and he has

2540
02:13:43,160 --> 02:13:47,760
Speaker 3: got on a pretty sweet Chess King shirt. Spencer Gibbs

2541
02:13:47,800 --> 02:13:51,000
Speaker 3: and Merry go round.

2542
02:13:51,120 --> 02:13:53,160
Speaker 1: That looks good to me. Can we hear it? I

2543
02:13:53,160 --> 02:13:55,280
Speaker 1: think we can hear it. How was your birthday? That

2544
02:13:55,360 --> 02:13:55,800
Speaker 1: was awesome?

2545
02:13:55,840 --> 02:13:58,200
Speaker 12: Thank you for asking. Good time, especially at time when

2546
02:13:58,200 --> 02:13:59,360
Speaker 12: I was on the air when I didn't know it.

2547
02:13:59,400 --> 02:14:02,520
Speaker 1: That was fun. Forty eight Is that what? You turned?

2548
02:14:03,520 --> 02:14:07,080
Speaker 1: Forty eight years old? Five six, big fella, five six,

2549
02:14:07,760 --> 02:14:10,480
Speaker 1: eleven years away from the rage of six seven? Right? Yeah,

2550
02:14:10,480 --> 02:14:12,360
Speaker 1: I hoop last night like a madman.

2551
02:14:12,680 --> 02:14:14,920
Speaker 12: You brought up something because you brought up Chess King

2552
02:14:14,960 --> 02:14:17,200
Speaker 12: And obviously I got my first pair of parachute pants

2553
02:14:17,240 --> 02:14:19,680
Speaker 12: at Chess King and that was a very important moment

2554
02:14:19,720 --> 02:14:22,400
Speaker 12: in my life. But is there any and people are

2555
02:14:22,400 --> 02:14:23,920
Speaker 12: going to say, well, you know, you and Jake are

2556
02:14:24,000 --> 02:14:25,680
Speaker 12: kids of the eighties. You're always going to love the

2557
02:14:25,680 --> 02:14:29,960
Speaker 12: eighties more. There is no debate. The eighties is absolutely

2558
02:14:30,000 --> 02:14:34,280
Speaker 12: the best decade of all time. All these other decades suck, seriously.

2559
02:14:33,880 --> 02:14:35,960
Speaker 3: You know the and you know what was such an

2560
02:14:36,000 --> 02:14:39,640
Speaker 3: epicenter of all of that was indeed, and John I

2561
02:14:39,840 --> 02:14:41,560
Speaker 3: had to ask We probably mentioned this before, but I

2562
02:14:41,600 --> 02:14:43,800
Speaker 3: had to ask my mom this once because I was like,

2563
02:14:44,080 --> 02:14:46,800
Speaker 3: was I hallose standing? So I asked my mom, I said, Mom,

2564
02:14:47,360 --> 02:14:52,120
Speaker 3: In my mind, I can remember like weekends like this

2565
02:14:52,280 --> 02:14:55,800
Speaker 3: when it was cold, and you know whatever, my mom

2566
02:14:55,920 --> 02:14:58,320
Speaker 3: and Jason Keller's mom and Matt Churchman's mom and Andy

2567
02:14:58,320 --> 02:15:01,520
Speaker 3: Birch's mom car pulling one of them would drive and

2568
02:15:01,560 --> 02:15:04,680
Speaker 3: literally drop us off John at the mall for like

2569
02:15:04,760 --> 02:15:07,160
Speaker 3: four hours at the age of I'm talking when I

2570
02:15:07,200 --> 02:15:09,960
Speaker 3: was like ten years old, and literally the other one's

2571
02:15:09,960 --> 02:15:12,160
Speaker 3: mom would come pick us up at four o'clock and

2572
02:15:12,200 --> 02:15:15,839
Speaker 3: you'd spend all your time at Chess King and Spencer Gifts,

2573
02:15:15,920 --> 02:15:17,800
Speaker 3: And I mean I can still remember the exact order

2574
02:15:17,800 --> 02:15:21,960
Speaker 3: of the Mary Parachute pans too right, and then obviously

2575
02:15:22,040 --> 02:15:26,080
Speaker 3: Aladdin's Castle or Times Square, any of the arcades. I mean,

2576
02:15:26,120 --> 02:15:28,920
Speaker 3: it was the social epicenter was the mall. It was

2577
02:15:29,000 --> 02:15:33,000
Speaker 3: Matt it was and it was about socializing Totrue's That's

2578
02:15:33,040 --> 02:15:36,800
Speaker 3: what it was. I mean, I chased chicks all over

2579
02:15:36,840 --> 02:15:39,360
Speaker 3: the place and the Blymington College Mall and they all

2580
02:15:39,400 --> 02:15:39,840
Speaker 3: said no.

2581
02:15:40,040 --> 02:15:41,720
Speaker 1: But it was a ride of passage.

2582
02:15:41,400 --> 02:15:44,200
Speaker 3: And like the rivalry of meeting kids from another school

2583
02:15:44,400 --> 02:15:45,880
Speaker 3: and you know that kind of thing.

2584
02:15:46,800 --> 02:15:51,080
Speaker 12: Jake, the moment somebody from Blymington North or Bloomington South

2585
02:15:51,160 --> 02:15:53,520
Speaker 12: or Bloomington or Ellisville or Edgewood. And I don't know

2586
02:15:53,520 --> 02:15:55,160
Speaker 12: why they thought they were a whole out of them now,

2587
02:15:55,200 --> 02:15:57,680
Speaker 12: but the moment they found out I was from eastern

2588
02:15:58,640 --> 02:16:00,080
Speaker 12: in Green County, it was over.

2589
02:16:00,440 --> 02:16:01,280
Speaker 1: I had no choice.

2590
02:16:01,320 --> 02:16:01,800
Speaker 8: It's done.

2591
02:16:02,000 --> 02:16:04,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's a cast system, right it is.

2592
02:16:04,840 --> 02:16:05,000
Speaker 9: Now.

2593
02:16:05,120 --> 02:16:05,800
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this.

2594
02:16:06,120 --> 02:16:09,400
Speaker 3: The fashion of them at Chess King for example, or

2595
02:16:09,480 --> 02:16:13,240
Speaker 3: Merry Go Round was another big one. Parachute pants and

2596
02:16:13,280 --> 02:16:15,880
Speaker 3: then zipper pants. Both those are two things that have

2597
02:16:15,960 --> 02:16:18,840
Speaker 3: never come back. Yeah, right, they never too.

2598
02:16:19,240 --> 02:16:21,440
Speaker 1: And I would buy would you rock some parachute you

2599
02:16:21,480 --> 02:16:22,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't do it? Right now?

2600
02:16:22,480 --> 02:16:24,320
Speaker 12: And in fact, if somebody could tell me out there

2601
02:16:24,320 --> 02:16:27,240
Speaker 12: where I can buy a pair of parachute pants, And

2602
02:16:27,280 --> 02:16:29,160
Speaker 12: I've looked at Goodwill and I haven't found a pair

2603
02:16:29,160 --> 02:16:31,960
Speaker 12: of yet, But if you can locate them for me,

2604
02:16:32,000 --> 02:16:33,000
Speaker 12: I'll buy them and wear them.

2605
02:16:33,040 --> 02:16:35,240
Speaker 1: I would love that. I love parachute pants. Did they

2606
02:16:35,280 --> 02:16:36,520
Speaker 1: have multiple pockets in them?

2607
02:16:36,600 --> 02:16:36,800
Speaker 9: Yeah?

2608
02:16:36,840 --> 02:16:39,400
Speaker 12: You know, and for today that's built for speed because

2609
02:16:39,400 --> 02:16:40,680
Speaker 12: we carry all this crap around.

2610
02:16:40,760 --> 02:16:42,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right there.

2611
02:16:42,400 --> 02:16:45,920
Speaker 3: Basically were like super comfortable cargo pants, correct a.

2612
02:16:46,040 --> 02:16:46,760
Speaker 1: Mundo right there?

2613
02:16:46,800 --> 02:16:48,840
Speaker 12: Hey, I'm going to come up with a new sponsorship

2614
02:16:49,640 --> 02:16:51,720
Speaker 12: for those moments where James can just put me on

2615
02:16:51,720 --> 02:16:53,240
Speaker 12: the air when I'm off the air to see what

2616
02:16:53,280 --> 02:16:58,840
Speaker 12: I say, Like the off the airtimes, Hey, let's see

2617
02:16:58,879 --> 02:17:02,000
Speaker 12: what Let's listen into what JMV is saying when he doesn't.

2618
02:17:01,720 --> 02:17:04,320
Speaker 1: Think he might get more opportunity. Right, I can't wait.

2619
02:17:04,360 --> 02:17:07,320
Speaker 1: So anybody wants to sponsor that. We're wide open for sponsorship.

2620
02:17:07,360 --> 02:17:08,680
Speaker 1: Did you have a waterbed too? By the way, that

2621
02:17:08,760 --> 02:17:09,720
Speaker 1: kind of went with the pursum.

2622
02:17:10,000 --> 02:17:12,720
Speaker 12: I did not have a waterbed, but I did go

2623
02:17:12,760 --> 02:17:17,240
Speaker 12: a number of times too, Big sir, waterbeds, Big sir.

2624
02:17:17,320 --> 02:17:19,320
Speaker 12: I have a commercial that runs on the JMV Takeover

2625
02:17:19,400 --> 02:17:20,000
Speaker 12: that's big, sir.

2626
02:17:20,240 --> 02:17:22,960
Speaker 3: Love it man. Waterbeds were massive. I remember having to

2627
02:17:23,520 --> 02:17:25,720
Speaker 3: drain mine once. I think it flooded. It looked like

2628
02:17:25,720 --> 02:17:27,720
Speaker 3: our old parking building on P two.

2629
02:17:27,760 --> 02:17:29,640
Speaker 1: Put the garden hose into it out the window.

2630
02:17:29,760 --> 02:17:32,440
Speaker 3: That's right, all right, John's up next, big show lined up.

2631
02:17:32,520 --> 02:17:34,600
Speaker 3: He will bring you home today. We'll be back with

2632
02:17:34,680 --> 02:17:37,280
Speaker 3: you at noon tomorrow. Thanks to Joel Ericson, Stepney White,

2633
02:17:37,360 --> 02:17:39,480
Speaker 3: Ralph Reef and don't forget Follow the Yellow Brick Road,

2634
02:17:39,520 --> 02:17:39,800
Speaker 3: Talk to it.

2635
02:17:39,920 --> 02:17:40,400
Speaker 1: Noon tomorrow,