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Speaker 1: the media reaction, the people reaction, the social media reaction,

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Speaker 2: Surreal madness.

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Speaker 1: People screwed up, and then people screwed up on the

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Speaker 1: to explain? Well, maybe, Tony Katz Tony Katz today, good

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Speaker 1: to be with. You find everything at tonykats dot com.

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Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez quarterback former or quarterback in the NFL. He

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Speaker 2: That means he gets to do that. He gets to

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Speaker 1: He goes around from city of city and he watches

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Speaker 2: It's what he does. It's a good gig. He's in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: The Colts are going to face the Las Vegas Raiders,

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Speaker 1: late Friday night, early Saturday night. Now, when the story broke,

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Speaker 1: Bad look for Indianapolis, which already has a lot of issues.

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Speaker 1: Because Indianapolis, like many other cities, is way too dangerous

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Speaker 1: the prosecutor. And if you listen to my morning show

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Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 1: But this has been an ongoing subject here, the violence

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Speaker 2: And they try and.

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Speaker 2: What are you complaining about?

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Speaker 1: These people are as disconnected as you can ever believe.

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Speaker 1: There's a sixty nine year old man who was cleaning

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Speaker 1: The sixty nine year old man pepper sprays Mark Sanchez.

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Speaker 1: All people want to do is pubble, right, all they

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Speaker 2: This isn't new. It's at that.

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Speaker 1: And this, So this did happen where I refuse to

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Speaker 1: But so Hogshead starts coming out. The mayor of Indianapolis

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Speaker 3: Guy this was in the news last week, arrested ninety

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Speaker 1: Why does he come to Twitter for the first time,

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Speaker 1: It has an effect, It has massive ripple effects.

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Speaker 1: So I stated in multiple places, First, hey, NFL, you

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Speaker 2: and cause a problem, what the hell is.

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Speaker 1: This because I stating clearly that it was about Sanchez.

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Speaker 1: Then I saw some nonsense statement from some city councilor

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Speaker 1: not telling the full story. Because I'm responding to what

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Speaker 1: it is the mayor data, what it is that the

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Speaker 1: prosecutor did. I'm talking about their specific statements. I'm already

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Speaker 1: on record saying Sanchez is the problem here, but now

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about these statements, and a holy heck you

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Speaker 1: can imagine with is by the way, you know the

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Speaker 1: expression touch grass, Oh that was yesterday, even when you

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Speaker 1: explain it to people, Nope, I want to be angry.

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Speaker 1: This is what I said, and here's what I said prior, etc. Nope, nope, nope,

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Speaker 1: don't want to hear that. Just want to be mad,

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Speaker 1: just want to call you names. I posted something and

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Speaker 1: the response was very Jewish thing to say.

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Speaker 2: I swear to you. I have no idea what that means.

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Speaker 2: You want to know what a very Jewish thing to

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Speaker 2: say is, man, this brisket is fatty. That's a very

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Speaker 2: Jewish thing to say. What in the world. But it's

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Speaker 2: just it's this great example.

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Speaker 1: Everybody immediately went to fiefdom, immediately went to politics, immediately

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Speaker 1: went to I have the higher ground here. I'm the

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Speaker 1: moral authority. You didn't do this right, you didn't do

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Speaker 1: that right.

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Speaker 2: It was crazy.

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Speaker 1: It was crazy, and I tried to make the argument.

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Speaker 1: You know, a few things can be true at the

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Speaker 1: same time, Mark Sanchez can be the guy who is

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Speaker 1: the guilty party here. The Republican governor lieutenant governor of

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Speaker 1: Indiana could have screwed up and didn't wait for the facts.

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Speaker 2: The Democrat mayor and the Democrat.

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Speaker 1: Prosecutor were out there playing politics trying to dunk on

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Speaker 1: the governor of lieutenant governor when they are a massive

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Speaker 1: part of the problem and Indianapolis has a violence issue

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Speaker 1: like that could all be true, and it is, it was,

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Speaker 1: and it is. Oh, everybody's nuts. I think Sanchez has

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Speaker 1: court date Tuesday or Wednesday. I'm not sure which, but

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Speaker 1: I'll say it again. Fox Sports, the NFL, and Mark

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Speaker 1: Sanchez need to apologize to the city because in this

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Speaker 1: instance he made us look bad as opposed to us

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Speaker 1: doing it just by ourselves.

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Speaker 2: He made us look bad.

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Speaker 1: As for social media responses and craziness. Man, suggest less

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Speaker 1: social media in your life. It's working wonders for me,

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Speaker 1: except for yesterday. It didn't work at all.

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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today.